Planning Board - Regular Meeting

Chris, Chris is here. Jackie Alers, Mark Robersonson, Jeppi, Casara. Okay. So, on that note, we would like to welcome Chris to our planning board. He brings with him a wealth of information and experience in planning. So, we are happy to have him join. Thank you for taking the time to be with us. Okay. So, if we could all rise and say the pledge of [Music] allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay. So, did everyone receive the minutes from the April meeting and have a chance to review them? Yes. Someone like to make a motion to adopt the minutes from April. I'll make that motion. Mark, second by second. Jeppi. All in favor? I. Okay. So, tonight we're going to start with some other business just to do some housekeeping and then we'll move on to the projects. The first housekeeping is the local law number six of 2025. All these documents are online for us to view for everyone have access to. So it was a local law that it determined the um extension of the moratorum. So it was enacted at the last town board meeting and it is on certain permits, certificates of occupancy and approvals for certain development as set forth in the local law one of 2024. So the new law it um extends the moratorum for a period of nine months with two subsequent extensions of two months a piece after that. if necessary. So, it really doesn't change any of the specifics, just the timing. And like I said, it is online. You can go and view it, read the specifics just so that you're um familiar with it. It does

definitely affect our board. So, the next is a correspondence we received from the MTA. So, they would like to be kept a breast of projects that are possibly going to affect their ridership or their infrastructure. So we are going to include it on like an internal checklist that if it comes across to us they will be notified and this way they can participate if they feel necessary just to be part of the ongoing process. And the last piece is Scott's meadow which was uh received final approval from this board for the piece uh that the county purchased from us on Kings Highway. so that we are in receipt of their plans and they are under review for signature. So those are all online as well. So those are our business that we need to attend to. Okay. So moving on, we're going to start with uh 1414 Kings Highway. So 1414 Kings Highway, if you remember, was a subdivision on Kings Highway, four lot subdivision that was granted conditional final approval on November 13th. So the conditional approval required Orange County Health Department approval. So the engineers have been working for the submissions for that approval and somewhere along the line um Orange County Health Department. So it was it didn't line up with the deadline. So what they're asking us for is a uh 90day extension so that they can meet the requirements. So, um, comments, uh, Mike, no. Chris, me, no. Mark, no. No. Okay. So, if someone would like to make a resolution to adopt a 90-day extension, Mike, it's second by Chris. All in favor? I So, we'll issue their extension for

them. Okay. So now we are moving on to Lily Pond Dam. So Lily Pond Dam is a proposed action of a lot line adjustment. So it's between the parcels of 3313 and 3314. So the town of Chester owns the portion and the Windridge Community Homeowners Association. So what they are requesting is that the lot line shift so that they can take ownership of the Lily Pond Dam. So they did go before the town board and the town board entitled them a resolution for the application of a lot line improvement and conveyance of real property between the town of Chester and Woodridge homeowners so Society. So what this in effect does it gives them authorization and it will in exchange it's like 086 of an acre. So in exchange it will give them the present and future maintenance costs associated with the lily pond dam. So Corey I don't Corey's here from Kier if you'd like to get up come up and explain to us the details and Melissa if you got it for the lily damp. Hi uh good evening. Uh Corey Robinson with Kier's Engineering and Design. I'm here representing the Windridge Homeowners Society the applicant for this project. Um, I think you described it pretty well. Um, the application consists of a lot line adjustment between the two parcels. Um, on the top of the page, that triangular shaped parcel is owned by the town. Um, right now all the way down to the W's edge on the bottom of the page. Um, there's a cross-hatched area on that map that's hard to see from here. Um but the cross-hatched area in the middle is that 86 acres which are being transferred from the town to the Windridge association. Um to provide sole ownership of the dam and the earth and

embankment structure um that retains the lake right now. Um, this was before the Yeah, there's a pen over there. Like a laser a laser pen. If you want to point it if there's something that you want to So like this blob right here is the land that's being transferred. The town owns this parcel right now, including this blob. Um, and the Windridge owns like the lake and the rest of the parcel. Um, we're proposing for Windridge to own the lake and that blob on the bottom. were transferring this section of land over to Windridge. Um this was before the town board in January. They adopted a resolution referring it here to the planning board. Um included in that I think was a permissive referendum that went out associated with that resolution. So um that's it. I'm here to answer any questions and hopefully advance this process. That's the resolution. Okay. So this is a type two action. So seeker doesn't apply. So we are uh no net deck is required. So um comments Mike seems like positive as far as the maintenance of the dam is there maint [Music] um has regulations for dam safety that apply to this structure. that there's routine maintenance and reporting that needs to be done. [Music] Um the town would be notified on like the emergency action plan um which goes into effect if there's some catastrophic

condition at the dam. Um they'd be listed on that. Otherwise, I I don't think um the town's notified. So they are taking on the cost of the maintenance from this point forward or some from the point forward of the lot line exchange or change itself. Correct. So they will Chester will no longer be responsible for any of that. Right. The the Windridge will be liable for the dam after this. Mark uh future projects that the association might be taking on. Is it going to encroach that area? and it's all wet land and stuff, so I can't imagine that it would, but yeah. So, now part of this application is we're rebuilding the dam um and bringing it up to the current safety standard. Just the dam. Just the dam. Yes. Okay. No comment. So, further on Mark's comment, there isn't anything down the line that you're looking to do except to refurbish the dam itself to bring Correct. Okay. Okay. So under this, this is considered a reubdivision that doesn't create any new lots. So it allows us to wave a public hearing if we see fit to do that. So um Jeppe, any thoughts on whether that is appropriate for you? You have if to wave a public hearing. Yeah, I would I I don't see why we need one. I would I would wave it. Mark, I agree. Uh I don't I don't see any cause for a public hearing. I agree. Okay. So, um, do we need a motion to wait? So, it would make a motion to wave a public hearing. I'll make that motion. Mark second. Mike. All in favor? I. Okay. So, we can then move to a conditional approval for it. Yes. John has any comments. I'm sorry, John. That was my fault. No, there was no comments.

We had gone through this one. was at the top level pretty [Music] straightforward subject payment of I don't know any other conditions that would be associated with project other than obviously the deeds that would need to be effectuated as part of the transfer as well but we would have to do that as a normal course of business anyone want to make a motion for a conditional Move approval Chris second by all in favor. I Okay. So you will have your conditional approval and I'll prepare a resolution that those conditions signature but no further action by the board is required. Okay. Great. Thank you. I think the town board also waved fees. I don't know if there's more that come with the planning board approval, but I believe they they waved the fees for this. So, thank you very much. Yeah, I was aware, but we'll make sure that it lines up. Okay. Thank you. Make sure that it's noted. [Music] So, that moves us to 306 Black Meadow Road. Okay. So, this is a site plan for clearing, filling, and grading to construct a barn at the rear of the property. A temporary driveway will be constructed to access the barn area, and then a portion of the fill will be relocated to the rear of the existing dwelling to make for a less steep area in the rear yard. So, Mr. Soi, Nar, and

[Music] Don't think we [Music] can probably continue to next month's meeting and show up later. Yeah, we can. Okay. So, we'll table it right for right now and if they and then we can circle back, right? So, then this helps you. Yeah. See that? Okay. So, this moves us on to Oakwoods, our subdivision. Okay. So, as we all know or if we remember from our April meeting, we are in continuence of the public hearing. So, what I think maybe we'll do is let Ryan discuss the project and then we could move to John's comments and our comments and then we can continue with the public hearing at that point. Okay, absolutely. That would be great. For the record, my name is Ryan Smith. I'm with Mccur Norton Marshall engineer for the applicant here with Ron Kaser attorney for the applicant. Um, if uh can I get the plan up? Let me get a second. Oh, Melissa, the plan. Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. No, it's okay. I was just checking to see if anybody signed up. [Music] So, just a couple of changes from the last. Um, if you could uh move to sheet two, please. [Music] Um, is this the

Oh, wait. I'm sorry. Uh, sheet three, if you wouldn't mind. [Music] Is this correct? I believe so. Um, no, actually, I think this is the previous version of the plans. [Music] [Music] That's something previous. Um, might be the top one. You go back to your email. Sorry. No, it's okay. Is it this one with the attachment here? That's the one that was the Melissa, I have to tell you, it's so good that you're sharing your screen. You know, if I was sharing my screen, I'd be getting notifications from my wife saying, you know, we need milk. Thank you. Ryan's gonna get different type. Exactly. Hurry. Okay. So, now you sure it's not the top? The top one? This one? No, the very top. [Music] Oh, trans. Oh, wait. Is it is it the uh the link in there? Yeah, because it's it's large back to message there and then the link at the bottom. the plans get so big they uh won't let you send them on email. Okay. Oh no. Okay. So, okay. No. No. The changes. Hold on. Listen.

We depend on technology so much. Yes. But sometimes it's related and and that is why it's always great. That's not that doesn't help. Basically the the major changes are that the um additional markers have been added along the 25 foot proposed access uh for the conservation area towards the rear. Um, we revised uh the stepping system design on lot two. Um, and kind of it's there. Excellent. Um, I don't know what happened, but let me see. Uh, sheet three if you wouldn't mind. I don't mind, but we'll see if technology right there. Yes. So um additional uh reference markers for the conservation area have been um in have been proposed along the uh lot one side of the 25 foot access to the conservation area at the rear. Um the lot two uh civic system design has been revised. Um if you move on to sheet the next sheet if you wouldn't mind. Sorry I wish I had a second button to switch seat sheets over here. Well, so uh this this sheet is the um members of the public last time asked yes uh asked if um the trees that were being removed could be more visible. So temporarily we've added red dots on the trees that are intended to be removed. We've kept the uh limits of disturbance fairly tight um around the driveways to limit the amount of large trees that are being removed on the on the plan. um upon filing this the colors will go back to a a gray um because of the Orange County

requirements for filing. Um additionally, the lot for grading has been pulled away from the uh adjoining property line to mitigate any potential impacts to the neighboring parcel. Um there's been um we had added a couple of um additional notations for the uh drainage at the rear of lot 4 um and then cleaned up a couple of inconsistencies on the plan. Um but I think those are the major changes that we've had um since the previous meeting. I'm happy to answer any questions. Uh John, do you want to go over your comments? Uh sure. So as Ryan had brought up one of the one of the items we were discussing last meeting was the say the walkway leg whatever going back to the conservation parcel whether or not there should be some sort of buffer fence line or something established along that um so the applicants proposing monumentation on that I still think where it can be done there should be some sort of more physical barrier for that even even in the future rather than to just leave the monumentation there and have the future owner want have to deal with it whenever when it becomes part of the trail. You know, it could be a ways away, but now is the time to possibly incorporate that. So, they've come up with what their proposed, you know, solution was. Um, was pointing out back to the board, you know, we may want to fill in the gaps where it's closest to the house at least. It comes in and comes out with some sort of more permanent barrier. The second comment we had spoke about also was that they had asked that the driveways on this application be paved in its entirety due to the slope and the switchbacks. Um the applicant proposed the first 25 ft um from a road in basically saying that that's what the

town code requires. However, my opinion, this application based on other developments in the town that have similar driveways and similar slope conditions, um I would require these or at least hopefully the board would agree that they should be paved in its entirety, keep the integrity of them, protect the wetlands a little bit better than having gravel, which will prevent reals and storm water and much better control for slope and ice. We had met with the the highway department um out there, the chairwoman and I um the roadside swale that you're proposing um specifically from the driveway of lot one down past to camp mon. I think when you come to the outlet down there, you need to take a take a look at that catch basin and pipe. Um it's in pretty rough shape once you actually establish that soil there. I think um I think that's going to have to be replaced. The the catch basin itself itself. Okay. The the the culvert's a 18inch CMP. Correct. Correct. Okay. So the it's not a size as far as the the accuracy of the culvert. It's more just the the condition of the culvert. And right now there's no swell there. So you don't really get concentration of water to the degree that once you put the swale in. Understood. Understood. Um, as far as the So, as far as the flow rate and what we're sending there, it's it's fine. It's just more of the fixing it up so that it gets in and across correctly. Okay. Understood. We have a stable outlet on the other side. Understood. Um along with that once we establish that swale I think there should be we talked to I was man asked if he could get a two foot gravel shoulder there maintaining integrity of the pavement line then the shoulder then the swale unders just running that swale along that pavement

line that we have there now it's probably a problem understood I discussed that with the applicant when we received your letter and he has no issue uh showing the two foot gravel shoulder in that section perfect uh so comment three and four are linked together. Um, comment five in in our discussions, uh, how department indicated that I guess at the time that they replaced the Culver Pike, they had spoken to either the owner or representative saying that they would reimburse the town for that work. So, that was that's a misrepresentation of the conversation. Uh, I did meet the highway superintendent out there. He he asked uh there were three things that we discussed and he said if uh any combination of those could be completed that uh the highway department would appreciate it. Um it was never a requirement. I mean this applicant has had nothing to do with that covert. Um there would be no reason for him to agree to uh replace that covert or pay for that replacement. We're um not sending any additional flow rate to that covert. Um not really sure why he would have agreed to replace or fund that. Um but he did ask for the drainage improvements along lot one um and then to cut that bank back uh to improve the site distance around that corner. Um which we agreed to. He also asked if the applicant would be amanable to um doing grading uh along Picker Road because they had had a previous um issue with with that covert and the direction of it. Um, I discussed with him that I would ask, but I highly doubted that anything offsite that the applicant was going to be willing to complete because it's not impacted by our project. Um, ultimately, uh, I had emailed him and

he, uh, his office had responded, um, that they agreed with the, uh, sum the summation of our conversation. Um, and I do have that email. Okay. Well, I wasn't there, right? But I'm just going off of what related to me. Um, his understanding was that when it was a a larger subdivision, correct? That the replacement of that pipe was going to be completed by correct that got slowed down or stole for whatever reason. He went ahead and did it because it was a problem. Said he only did it because correct. The applicant was going to reimburse the work, which he would have had to done anyway. Correct. There was a separate owner and separate engineer at that time. Um, so it's completely So it was possibly agreed to by someone at a different for a different project. Yes. But for the project that's before us in a different quantity. Correct. Different project, different owner, different engineer. We weren't involved in that at all. I believe Peter Sack and FA were the engineers at the time. And I don't know who the owner was. Okay. To be discussed, right? Yes. Comment six. I looked at the line of sight for the driveway. Correct. If you could on the plan do a line of sight profile to make sure you are Yes. cutting it up. I I did do one before. I I I didn't show it on the plan, but it is it is sufficient. Because it looked it looked like it significant amount of that down. Yeah. it the grading is pretty pretty uh pretty steep along along that line. So, we will be peeling it back uh fairly far um to to achieve that and it should uh it should improve conditions not only for uh sight line out of there but also people coming around on camp Monroe Road. Correct. Yeah, you need it. Yeah, absolutely. And we discussed it with the highway superintendent um and his

representative when we were out there and um they specifically asked for that location so that it was directly across from Pickrol Road. Yeah, the line the line item is when I when I stood there and took the height. Yeah, it's a lot. Seems like you got to go much farther back. Understood. Then I just made a comment that the applicant did provide correspondence addressing the public hearing from last. So the real two main issues are are covert piping and whatever we'd like to do along say along the walkway right away. Yeah. So on our visit there, we did hear that the county had done some improvements on Lakes Road, which has greatly helped the flow going down. So that's that's great for you. Yes. But it also has done that previous catch basin and Culver and they redirected it. So it's not landing in the backyard, it's landing away from there. Correct. And so it's kind of taken that away, which greatly helps your project, too. Correct. So, it may be something that you want to visit about some type of compensation because those two items have greatly helped a subdivision that might not have gone forward if those two things weren't addressed. And the same with that culvert that's out across from lot one. And that line of sight is a great especially with that walkway now in place or going to be in place. people can't park on that road, but if they are walking accessing it and that kind of leads us to the um the Burm I I think a Burm would help greatly even if like John said that if you compromise and do it closest to that house because down the road people accessing that will then think well where's the line you have denotation places but you know it kind of is a little bit more and I know you said there's tree line there now. So, even a burn between the tree lines, something that's going to kind of give

it a a sighteline of that that's this is no longer your property to be on. Understood. Um, I think that it will greatly help and I'm behind 100% to pave those driveways because a lot of them have the slope. I mean, you're right at the edge of the under the 10% grade. So to pave all of it in its entirety will help environmentally and will also help just the person who's at that house. Understood. I I definitely think that's something that we should really look into. And the covert that John said that's in front of like lot one is it's just the age. It's just it's compromised. It's definitely compromised. Understood. And we can I have no issue looking at the culvert um crossing the uh near near lot one and looking at the the catch basin uh especially as that's going to be the main source of receiving flows. Um, uh, regarding the regarding the burm, um, I'm just having a hard time with the concept of it being the onus of either the lot one owner or the applicant um, of putting in something now on a in a wooded lot for a for a trail. that may may not happen especially because the the connection point has not yet been approved by the town of Monroe. Additionally, it's a it's a conservation area. Um obviously this is a cluster subdivision. So this this land is being obviously dedicated to the town of Chester and we are not proposing the trail. The town of Chester is proposing a connection to the trail as is the potentially the New York New Jersey trail conference. That is not our project. that is that is the town of Chester's project. So I don't understand why the applicant should be responsible

for putting in a a buffer that the lot one lot uh land owner may not want after making a dedication of such land to the town. Well, we do appreciate that and it does um enhance the town of Chester, but it also has given you opportunity to have this subdivision in respect to and we're not asking for the whole length of it. I think that was a great compromise if it's for that single lot to just give it some type of um bordering and maybe it's something to visit. we can go out there and visit it with you if there's enough trees that's going to make it or if there's fill that you're taking from your excavating that that fill just gets deposited on that BM. Not asking you to put trees on the BM. We're just asking for some kind of bordering situation. I can I can take it back to the applicant and and discuss it. Um absolutely. Okay. And it's it's the biggest concern that that the board has is specifically on this the portion that comes closest on that on that section. Um yeah, that's correct. Yeah. Okay. So, as you're coming down the trail, there's not really anything here. People are just they're going to wander right through backard. Understood. And then come back. Understood. We can get where the turn is and then get them basically back again. I think it'll a lot of problems in the future. Understood. And the homeowner will also realize that oh there is something I don't know all the way. Understood. Yeah. Right where the right where the Got it. I will I will ask the applicant um regarding that from here to there. Okay. To that angle they'll come down here and then they'll be down here. I mean there there is going to be you know obviously once the a trail is installed or something is installed out there that

I think it would be much more obvious that it's going to be but I I understand the concern um and I will take it to the applicant um regarding the reduced section. Um, regarding the driveways, um, I understand the board's concern regarding the environmental impacts and I don't think the applicant would have any issue paving through especially the the crossing. Um, maybe 10 feet on either side of the crossing. It's just that on especially on long driveways like this, that cost is exorbitant. We meet all the regulations that the the town code specify for the driveways. We are underneath the slope requirements. Yes, two of them in particular are close to the maximums, but there is no requirement that they be paved other than the entrances. It it is a great cost to pave a this is over 700 feet long um a driveway in its entirety. If like I said, I I I don't see any any reason that why we couldn't pave this section to reduce the potential impacts to the wetland, but um ultimately we're we're not asking for anything that's outside of the outside of what's specified on the code. Um and the paving is not specified in the code as as a requirement. the highway superintendent has jurisdiction over the entrance um but nothing within the site and I think the applicant has been pretty generous on on you know uh giving the board ex what they've asked for in the past um you know we've been before you guys since I think October of last year um

and I think I think it's just that is a very large ask without without a specific code backing it up. And I I understand I understand your point towards um sort maintenance and I don't argue that maintenance of a paved driveway is absolutely easier with a uh regarding snow removal. But I have a half paved, half gravel driveway. And I can tell you if you if you plow your driveway or you have an ice storm on your driveway, the gravel sections have a lot more grip than the pave than the pave sections do. You remove that outside layer, it the pave sections, they ice up immediately and those sections are slipperier. I I am more worried about about that potential and then requiring it on on there than I am about a gravel driveway. I don't think that the I don't think that the gravel's an unreasonable ask. Um especially given that we'll concede to paving the entrances. They have reverse pitches so that they're safe to enter and exit the uh the public roadway uh for the first 25 ft. We can pave those sections, no problem. Easily maintained. Um and I don't think we'll have any problem paving across this this crossing protecting the wetland. Um but we'd really rather not pave all every every section of every driveway. Um I I respectfully disagree. I think these driveways um their drainage is predicated on swailes on either side um bringing water to the driveway which is stone slope turns. It's not just about the snow. It's about all the conditions.

Although it's not specifically in the code. The code dealing with driveway entrances on town highways. It's a site plan issue that the board certainly will take up during subdivision review. We've had other instances with other subdivisions that have had a lot of problems with longer driveways being paved, washing out constant, not being repaired, emergency services having problems. So, headed off at the pass. Yeah. Instead of down the road. Understood. I can discuss it with the applicant. Um Mike um no concern with the drainage. We got very late communication with some photos of water coming across to that corner coming across the road from Pickrol. I think it's the lot that's on that cornering. That's where that was extended past the back of that. So they that's where the town of Chester the highway department had gone in and extended it past that so that it was landing into the wetter area not into their backyard. I understand just you know to to to take a take a longer look at at where the water is going to come out is critical. These were recent photos of of like something for or these were photos from before the covert was reoriented photos. They were they were like 400 photos. Yeah. From some time ago that's that um development at that time consequences in terms of runoff.

[Music] Understood. Chris, on that topic, this was an email that came in about 15 minutes or so before. Oh, okay. I understand that. Okay. We'll certainly forward it absolutely to you and provide you with an opportunity. Understood. Thank you. That's what you meant by late meeting late. Understood. This is not a development. the house back there's water. [Music] Understood. And just to just to full transparency, the the drainage analysis did um that we completed did analyze the flow to this culvert and uh the flow rate was either maintained or reduced as as a result of this this drainage the maximum flow rate from the site. So we we have looked at it. Absolutely. Chris. [Music] Absolutely. live in an area where we first moved [Music] in front they saw that yes there [Music] Mark uh for the markers I'm actually not opposed to markers um the the burm is a good idea but like you said Ryan like once you start creating a path I think that that would suffice. Uh as long as the markers are visible and noted appropriately. Um yeah, I I I had to second with with

John's suggestion about having the driveways paved as well. That's that's something that's going to help with the drainage and uh we obviously have some water issues there already. Understood. We'll definitely discuss it with the applicant. Thanks. Yeah, I agree. The driveway should entirely be paved. U but I'm more concerned about the drainage on the road because with the recent storm events that we have where we get so much rain, two and a half inches in a short period of time, how are we going to have the proper capacity for the for the drainage out in the road? Correct. and and uh we are we are uh proposing um improved improving the swell across the entirety of the front edge of the property. So everywhere we're developing um we're proposing improving that swale so that that water moves on and is out before the larger slug comes down that that hill. Um so from that development that water will be gone before that larger storm comes down. Right. And the and these things are in preparation of like future like 100 years or correct. Correct. Okay. Correct. I'm okay. Good. Okay. So, as was stated, we are still in the public hearing. So, let the record reflect that the proper notices were sent by mail and the legal notice was published. So, as we know, this isn't a question and answer session, but we may answer a question or two or Ryan may answer question or two, but if you are also watching on stream, you can bring your questions and Michelle will relay them to us as well. And there was a signup sheet in the back. Nothing. So, no one is signed up, but Tracy would like to speak. So, if you Yeah. And just state your name. I didn't have anybody. There was nobody on the sheet. No. So, can't believe I forgot. Okay,

it's um I'm the one who sent an email late and I apologize for that. Um what happened was I wanted to watch the replay of last meeting to kind of because it's been a month. I don't remember what I said. Sometimes I get up here and I just start rambling. So I was watching it and I felt that I for especially for the new members I may not have been clear what I was trying to explain about what happened as an example with the project across the street and um the things you know it's kind of like the swale that went wrong and there were things that happened even after like not related to the swale but it just because water just continues to flow in this direction and the stop sign which had nothing to do with the culvert had like a sinkhole and the the water it just you know it just kind of eroded um before you know you know the swale so um on pickarole so there is you know the constant flow of water and it's hard if you drive around now to actually envision how some of the other streams in the area on on Pickerol and on uh Troutbrook um how those become roaring rivers when we have those big events but if you actually look hard enough you can see all the erosion and how high they actually can yet and have have overflowed by by Brookview um in the past. Not to say that this project's going to do that. Um I'm more concerned about the project across the street in Monroe um Henry Farms because that settlement they don't have to follow new storm water regulations or new DC regulations or anything that's was part of their settlement. So um but I only I just I sent those pictures just so it could explain because I I just didn't think um I was very clear without having it something you could go. So, if you watch the replay and then look at the pictures, they kind of make more sense now. Um, and I just wanted to comment on a couple things um you guys were talking about in with trails. Even if the Highlands I don't know if you want to lower that a little bit um so I can see

the this part here. Even if the New York New Jersey trail conference um doesn't Yeah. the town, you know, this could this is going to be, you know, an area where the town people can, you know, utilize it to hike in here and just be here. It doesn't have to connect someday. I mean, it would be nice if it does, but um I'm not sure I understand when it says there's more markers. Are these the only two markers or are these markers all the way? I'm not really sure because all of those there's little dots there. It's hard to see. Okay. So, I agree. Like, you're going to be clearing here for this driveway, right? This whole spot looks like you're going to be clearing all this. You know, the fact that it's a wooded area, it's wooded with trees, not evergreens. So maybe you know those giant those green giants you know something when you're done when this development when this driveway is all done there's a couple of green giants that go here that kind of defines this person it feels private privacy because in the rest of the year this is all going to be open whether there's trees there or not I'm going to see right into this person's house anybody who's walking here you it you know when it gets close so I do I kind of agree that it would be nice if there was just some evergreens that were planted because they're already going to be clearing here and that just protects this person feel safer and it just avoids conflicts uh later down the road. Um so, you know, if that can be accommodated, I mean, I'm not suggesting to dig dig deeper in here and make make a buffer, but just along what's what's already being cleared. Um and then, um I was a little concerned when you were talking about paving here. I if I heard you correctly, you said you're going to go 10 feet more. I mean, I just don't know how you I did I misunderstand that because I just didn't want to I don't know how you protect these wetlands when the law says, you know, you're supposed to have this 25 foot buffer, but there's no buffer here crossing it. So, I just don't know how this say is safe from this in the future. Um, so I guess if paving it defines it, that then that would do it, but I didn't know how much how that works. And if there's a marker

needs to be here or here, so later the the homeowner knows I'm not going past the driveway. Um, and then the other thing I didn't I just heard tonight you guys said that there was um the applicant had submitted comments to the public hearing that is that something that's online that we that the public can read? I is that Yeah, I didn't see that. Okay, I missed responsive. Oh, okay. I missed it. And my only question was does that include the CA the conservation advisory council comments or just received? Yeah. Okay. All right then. I think that was um all I wanted to say. So thank you. Thank you. Is there anyone? Good evening. Larry Dyinger. uh at the last meeting uh identified a few things uh that needed uh one was showing the actual width on the drawings for that axis pass. I didn't see that being added to the drawings. So if that can be done uh thank you for the for identifying which trees are being removed. That's greatly appreciated. Uh John, thanks for putting your shoulder on the edge of the road and I understand why you're doing that to protect the road. I mentioned that I recommended a three to four foot shoulder for not only protecting the road but also if someone walking along the road they can you know have somewhere to get off the road if you know a car is coming. So I would like to see it three or four feet instead of just a two but at least a two is a good start. Uh lastly, um I still don't see anything on the drawings about outdoor lighting that should be identified on the drawings to, you know, so make sure you comply with the Chester's comprehensive plan and the outdoor lighting ordinance. Thank you. That's all I have. Could just to go with the shoulder came

to the two foot because essentially there's a line utility poles, right? And so we didn't want once we did the two foot and the swale, we didn't want the swell to line up. Yeah. So then the soil would have to be pushed behind the poles and then we'd be we'd be well into the property. Okay. So that was the reason. Okay. Thank you. Is there anyone else Michelle? No. So at this time let it reflect that there is no one else that would like to speak for the public hearing and um could have a motion to close the public hearing. I'll make that motion. Mark, I'll second it. Do you? All in favor? I. So, we have closed the public hearing, but that it stays open for an additional 10 days. So, if you have any comments, you want to forward to the planning board. They will be returned to Ryan and he can address them for you at the next meeting and we will then go from there and hopefully accomplish or compromise or move forward, I should say. Okay. Thank you, Ryan. [Music] Thank you very much. Yes. Real Thank you very much. Real quick, I just wanted to address your comments uh very quickly. Um I I did add the width to the uh 25 foot access. Yes, it's it's on it's on the label that's uh you can't see on this sheet, but it's on the sheet before it. Um of course, uh the the shoulder there is a a grass shoulder shown across the entire frontage of the property. Um and then it'll turn to gravel at the location where uh John indicated. And then uh there is a note that was added to the plans regarding letting individual lighting plans for the dwellings uh prior to cos um being issued because each of the dwellings is going to have a little bit different orientation might need lighting in different places. We're

just showing pretty standard B right now. Thank you. No problem. Thank you all very much. Thank you. Thank you. Good luck. probably won't see any evidence. Yeah, probably not. Better not. That's a good thing. Okay. So, just just to be clear, procedurally, Ryan, just procedurally, so the board hasn't received the comments from the county planning department yet. And the time for them to do so hasn't. So, this board can't take any further action at this time. It's subject to secret. So they can't take any action until the county planning department either provides this response or that time has the last for them to do so. And so there's no time frames that are running associated with closing of public hearing yet because the application overall is not complete because the fact that we still have county planning comments out and that was also referred to. Excellent. Thank you very much. Thank you. No, I appreciate that. Okay. So, at this point in time, we are going to go into an executive session and motion to go into executive session. I'll make that motion. I'll second. Second by Mark. All in favor? I. This is for conducting. Yes, for the conducting of interviews. So, thank you very much. Do you officially tableing? I think I How do we have to do that? Because no show. So they're free to come at. Yes. Yes. Thank you. [Music]

How's that story? storage. Yeah, there's also [Music] Yeah, sure. Next Wednesday there is a town board meeting. [Music] comments back. Okay. Thank you. [Music] Okay. So, yeah, just we're dismissed. We're dismissed. Okay. Thank you very much.

I have to get you something. Yes. I'm going to run downstairs. A motion to come out of executive session. I'll make that motion. Second. All in favor? I. Okay. Thank you everybody. What? The meeting. Ajourn. I'll make a motion to adjurnn the meeting. So it was it was