About this meeting
- Government Body
- City Commission Meetings
- Meeting Type
- City Commission Meetings
- Location
- Panama City, FL
- Meeting Date
- February 24, 2026
Transcript
50 sections
Good afternoon. I'm calling to order the City of Panama City Commission meeting for February 24th at 4:30 p.m. We're going to start out with an opening prayer by Dr. Corey Pittz, senior pastor of St. Andrew Baptist Church, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance led by city manager Jonathan Hayes. Please rise. Let's pray. Lord, we come to you just recognizing that you are the creator of all things and you are the giver of all good gifts. And so, God, we thank you for the gift of Panama City for all of its citizens, God. And we uh just thank you also for those first responders that uh that keep our city safe, keep us well, and keep us protected, God. We pray for every family uh that calls this place home that you'd have your hand on them. And Lord, we also thank you for these leaders that are here today. God, we pray for wisdom for them uh as they seek to bring order to uh uh to items that are on the agenda. And God, we pray that you would give them discernment as well as they lead well. God, we thank you for how good you are to us. We thank you for how you bless us. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen. Please face the flag and join me in the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Please call the role. Hi. Mayor Branch present. Commissioner Street here. Commissioner Hughes here. Commissioner Lucas present. Commissioner Granger. He may join by Zoom later on in the meeting. Mayor, you have a quorum. Yes. You've received the meeting minutes from
February 10th. Do I have a motion to accept? So move. Please call the RO. Commissioner Street. Yes. Commissioner Hughes? Yes. Commissioner Lucas? Yes. Mayor Branch? Yes. Motion passes 40. any addition additions or modifications to the agenda? Uh, none from staff, Mr. Mayor. Uh, I don't have an addition this week, but um I would like us to discuss water billing. Uh, maybe not at this meeting, but at the the following meeting. Oh, community fund. March 10th. No, I think you mean March 10th, right, Commissioner? March 10th or possibly at our virtual workshop. Okay, sounds good. Moving on. Community announcements. Yes. As February comes to a close, stay connected to what matters most in our community. Make sure you're signed up for city communications and receive updates straight to your inbox or phone. From our monthly newsletter to real-time alerts like water service notifications, we'll keep you informed every step of the way. Scan the QR code or visit panalcity.gov to sign up today because staying informed is always in season. The city has introduced a new way for residents to stay informed about programs and operations at the MLK Junior Rec Center. A dedication not a dedicated notification rather uh group has been added to the city's mass communication system to provide timely updates directly to subscribers. Scan the QR code on the screen or text PCMLK to 38276 to automatically opt in for text notifications or subscribe online at panama city.gov gov for MLK Junior Recreater Center notifications. The Panama City Symphony in partnership with the city of Panama City brings live musical performances to the city hall rotunda once a month through their musically upclose series. These free concerts feature intimate chamber music by PCS musicians and special guests,
offering the community a chance to enjoy classical and contemporary music in a relaxed downtown setting. Join us this coming Friday, February 27th, at 3:30 p.m. in the city hall rotunda for the next musically upclose performance. Panama City's Charter Review Advisory Board is actively engaged in a comprehensive review of the charter. The next review meeting is Thursday, March 5th at 12 noon in room 30 room 236 at city hall. And the Panama City Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee has gathered community input regarding parks under construction for potential consolidation. Their community survey closes this Saturday, February 28th. For more information on both, please visit the city's website at panol city.gov. Join us for Ignite STEM, a fun, interactive STEM experience designed for youth and families in our community. Brought to you by HCA Florida Healthcare and the Bay County Chamber of Commerce Leadership Bay. This event goes beyond textbooks, showing kids the exciting possibilities of STEM learning and careers right here in our community. Ignite STEM will be held Saturday, March 14th from 10:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon at the MLK Junior Recreation Center. This event is free, but registration is required. Scan the QR code on the screen or visit our website to register today at panalcity.gov. On March 16th through the 18th, the Dreambuilder Spring Break Camp will be happening at the MLK Junior Recreation Center. This 3-day camp runs from 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. and offers a full day experience focused on creativity, confidence building, teamwork, hands-on learning. The cost for the camp is $50 per camper for kids aged 6 to 14. Space is limited to 50 participants.
Registration is now open and closes March 2nd. Reserve your spot today at panama city.gov. That is all the announcements. Moving into public hearings. Item number 6A is uh ordinance number 3299 amendment to chapter 12 environment adding article 8 railroad rights of way vegetation drainage and nuance maintenance. This is the final reading for ordinance 3299 and staff recommendation through the uh director of uh development services and the city manager's office is that the commission have the final reading and approve this ordinance. I do believe that city attorney Mr. Zimmerman does have a few remarks before we move forward for consideration. Mr. Mayor, uh, this item came to you, uh, for consideration, uh, last meeting, and it is, um, it it is a requirement to have a more streamlined approach for code enforcement. So, it requires all railroad companies to maintain grass and weeds outside the ballast track zone. So, they do not exceed the the grass and weeds do not exceed 12 in in height. Keep open all ditches, culberts, and storm water conveyance within the rideaways to prevent flooding or standing water. Keep rights away outside the ballast track zone free of fire hazards, trash, encampments. Ensure vegetation outside the ballast track zone does not obstruct visibility at public street crossings. The ordinance exempts the area known as the pal ballallas track zone where the railroad tracks are in a 15 ft area extending from the center line of the track on both sides so as not to interfere with the operations of the railroad. This uh item came up with observations by commissioner street and others concerning the uh issues with
vegetation and and right ofway. the city is not obligated, but if it does uh it could provide notice uh of the need to either clean up or or mow and then if that is not done within 30 days, the city could do that on its own and then the city could have a lean and do a nuisance assessment to collect the cost of that action. This is a ordinance that um is loosely patterned after one from Central Florida that we looked at and it is uh available for public participation. Mr. Mayor, yeah. Well, this is a public hearing. Oh, this is a public hearing. If you wish to speak about item 6A, please come forward. Anyone for 6A? Seeing none, let's do a motion to accept. Um, and I think Nevin, thank you. I think Nevin just read, "We have a code enforcement process. What's wrong with using that versus creating an ordinance and put some government overreach in there?" And I I remember Josh talking about that that is a hard area right there. I 21st Street and running down there. But here's a concern that I have. Is this setting is this setting the the stage for later on? Now we want the guy behind the Texico on Harrison and 231. We want to clean his up. We're going to charge him and now we're opening the door to let's just go charge stuff. We can't even cut our own grass all the way. We we have people cutting it for free. Um I'm concerned that we are getting the cart before the horse. Really, we shouldn't charge anybody on that. But and we we ought to get our house straight first before we start doing that just from a position of
uh do as I say not as I do. Um but does that concern of later on this commission is not the same? Let's say anything from South Florida is going to be a different than up here and now they're going to open the door and start charging people for cutting rightways which is that a does this allow for that potentially the first of all code enforcement the way the code is written out is available as far as to uh site the uh railroad that but what this does it it allows it to be more proactive In other words, some jurisdictions, I believe, they have a process where they can provide notice. If nothing's done, they immediately take action and and abate the problem and then if somebody doesn't like the way it was abated, then they can file an appeal or something after the fact. This is patterned after that. The way that the city's uh code enforcement mechanism is set up is that you provide notice and then if it's not abated, you go to a magistrate and then you act pursuant to a magistrate's order. So this is doing it differently than our normal code enforcement process where you give notice and if nothing's done, you immediately the city could immediately take action and and then file file a lean. Now, this is specific to a railroad. I'm not saying that the ordinance couldn't be amended someday to include other things. It's um Okay, that that works. Have we talked to the railroad company? Has anybody called them to say, "Hey, we're getting ready to try to make y'all do something." Or have we have anybody called? Lots of conversations. I mean, we've had multiple verbal conversations over the
last many years going back to when I was public works. Since Commissioner Street introduced this, have we called the the railroad company and said, "Here's what's going on." I didn't call them, but I did email it to the contact at the railroad and just put on their on their radar and said, "If you have any questions, myself and Mr. Zimmer would be happy to uh hop on the phone with you." I never heard back from No, sir. So, I I guess I p you back on that and say I don't think the goal is to go out in there and us start cutting other people's grass and charging them. Ours is not, right? But I would say that I think it'd be interesting to talk about a roll out if this ordinance passed. How would we get their attention before we start doing that? And so would we start sending them certified letters letting them know, hey, like what would be the process if this thing passed and we decided there were areas around the railroad tracks that were overgrown? How would we notify them and what would we expect from them? Like what would be the time period before we just start going cutting grass everywhere? Cuz that's not the goal. The goal is not to grow a grass cutting team. Uh is that's not the goal. The goal is to have a a rideway that we don't take care of and the taxpayers don't take care of. Right. Josh, what how what stretch of railroad are we talking about? So, what's mainly brought this to forward is we have a a several mile section um that is part of our what I would say it's critical um if it gets overgrown um then houses flood, properties flood because it's the main drainage area for the entire for multiple neighborhoods. It's not just one. So, we have gone through this process of trying to walk through code enforcement, trying to go through all of these steps. And what you'll find is the way our process is built, it's really meant for, hey, one time this happens, this is corrective action, and then that's it. Whereas this is an ongoing issue. So, it's not like a roof. Go fix your roof, go fix your window, and you're done. This is something that has to be done over and over and over again throughout the year. The other side that makes this a real unique situation is there's
part of the railroad track specifically that's federal jurisdiction and there's part of it that's local jurisdiction. The federal jurisdiction already has its entire there's a whole different process to walk through. Federal Railroad Administration oversees that and those kind of things. But these specifically these ditches are are are critical that they be maintained. And up until the point in time of Hurricane Michael and Jennese and Wyoming taking over, this was a railroad responsibility. This was not something that the city the city ended up having to mitigate after the storm because it wasn't getting maintained and people were flooding. And so this has never been a city responsibility. Even going back to minutes in 1960, you know, you can see where there's been these instances where the railroad has stopped maintaining things and the city's had to give them notice and say, "Go ahead and and and correct this." But we are in a weird instance as I've met with their government affairs officials from Jacksonville. I've made them very aware of what we're seeing going on. They've gone through three different heads at the local um at the local level. We're just not getting any kind of response as as is right here. So, I don't know what the next step is as far as what happens after this. Um, I think probably there is probably some certification of response or or some type of notification that comes. Maybe Nevin you can you So, is this the line that runs crosses 15th Street and runs uh parallel what would be behind 15th and in between 15th and 21 by Jinx and those things. But yeah, the what brought it to my attention is ultimately the neighborhoods that are flooding and so and that really exists from about Lisby all the way to the college. Mhm. That's part of, you know, basically your entire ward. Yeah. And a little bit of Jesus. A little bit of Jesus in mine. So, okay. What I might suggest is Mr. Zimmerman and I can
follow up with an additional letter uh letting him know that this has passed and and again, you know, request to sit down and talk about, you know, what this means for the future uh of the city and our ongoing relationship with the railroad. And so I think uh well, I know for me the deciding factor here is the flooding and the u the residents and what they suffer as a result of these unclean ditches. going back to your initial um example of can we would this be open the door to just start charging everybody according to this process and I think not because the criteria for getting us to this point is as Commissioner Street has just outlined um and just being ignored and the fact that it is causing flooding and other issues for uh for our residents. All right, that dude got a long beard. Would y'all be open to um if we were if if it were to pass that it had a um a delayed start until I just think we need to talk to the railroad. I know you've tried and I and I do appreciate that. But if we did certified mail that way we know we get it. It's somewhat of a demand letter but not really that that strong. Um I just don't think it's right to pass it and say, "Oh yeah, by the way, here's what's get and I know we tried but we really didn't get in touch with you." Is that something that we could consider? You want like a 60-day start date? 30 days. I mean, not 30 days. Yeah. I will state we actually emailed them another letter regarding the quiet zones and they did acknowledge that. So, I mean, we do have a docu in the last 30 days, 30 to 45 days documented response of them communicating with us. Sorry. Just to follow up on the mayor's question as far as notice, the ordinance says that violations, uh, written notice shall allow a minimum of 30 days to correct any nuisance and notice is provided in accordance with, uh, Florida statutes and it is certified. So you provide certified notice and then you
have and it's a minimum of 30 days to abate whatever problem is identified in the notice. Do I have a motion to accept? So moved. Second. Any discussion? Please call the RO. Commissioner Strait. Yes. Commissioner Hughes. Are we doing it with a delayed start? I I was just going to ask, did you want it? It could be effective in 30 days. The motion is not that. Janice, would you agree to a 30-day? Yes. Okay. So, it will be effective. Can we just say April 1? Would that be fine? Just make it clean. April 1. April and we can start cutting April. As long as it's no. Yeah. Okay. April April 1 start effective date. Okay. And who second? Do we have to second? I'll mean yes on that. Okay. All right. Commissioner Luke, do I start over? Yes. Commissioner Street? Yes. Commissioner Hughes? Yes. Commissioner Lucas? Yes. Mayor Branch? Yes. Motion passes 40. I'd like to read the title. Ordinance number 3299 and ordinance of the city of Panama City, Florida, amending chapter 12 to require maintenance of railroad rights of way by railroad owners and operators outside of the operational track and ballast zone area, providing for vegetation, drainage and nuisance control outside of the immediate ballast area and providing for severability clause, repealer provision, cotification and an effective date. Thank you. We are now into um audience participation. Please come forward if you'd like to speak about anything on the remaining of the agenda item. Uh now is your kind time to come forward if you want to talk about the farmers market or anything else. You have three minutes. Just let us know what agenda item you're
speaking on and give us your name and address for the record. Good afternoon. U Walter P. Hendendrick 614 Maple. Uh I just I wanted to hear what y'all saying talking about the railroad. I wanted I know in Milville y'all have it's aband track in Millville or that they go y'all going do anything with with that. But the railroad do not run through there anymore. that track is batting it. And um I think if the if there's a ditch on on either side of that railroad track, I kind of believe that it's it's city responsibility to keep that ditch clean if there's a ditch running down inside that railroad track. I know they have they have their own part of their prop their their property, but if there's a ditch there. Uh I I don't know how y'all feel about it, but I think it should be it seem to be to me as a city responsibility uh to have that d keep that ditch clean where the water will not affect the the homes there at the near that railroad track. And I think some over here track do have ditches off on this downside running down side of Thank you. Anyone else want to speak about any remaining agenda items? Yes ma'am. Good afternoon everyone. Good afternoon.
Brenda Lewis Williams 2748 Oak Okamock Drive. First, I want to give you all kudos. You're surprised, right? Because I like the idea that you are doing a monthly and weekly updates for the citizens of the of uh Panama City. I think that's wonderful. You just followed after me when I was doing my tood doodles. That's all you're doing. But anyway, I think it's wonderful that you are doing that. um 10A. I wanted I would like to know why we have to have an interim clerk as opposed to since the clerk is not leaving till I believe she told me August, why we have to have an interim clerk. And I'd like to get an answer today if possible and um and and look and look at hiring somebody to be there while she's there so that she can help train them. Uh this was not on the agenda. Jonathan spoke to the activities of the dream dream camp. Is that what it's called at MLK? Yes, ma'am. But it was in the announcement. So indirect in the announcement. Correct. So are there any scholarships available for students do who may not be able to afford the $50? Um and what is the farmers market about? You just have farmers market but no information. Stay and find out. I can't today but um and he hasn't spoken but um Commissioner Hughes did when he was out of town on a meeting but my understanding is that if commissioners are not in attendance physically in attendance they cannot uh vote. So I'd like an answer to that. That's correct. Huh? That's correct. Yeah, I know. But he was out of town and he spoke. It's no argument. Just make I'll tell you the answer. No, just clarifying a point. Yes, ma'am. medical emergency allowed.
That's the exception. Oh, I'm not interested in why you were out of town. I'm I'm interested allowed you to vote. That's the That's the difference. That's what allows you to vote is under medical emergency necessary. You're still allowed to participate and vote. Outside of that, you can't. Okay. But you that wasn't explained when you did by design. No, no, no, no, no. Thank you. We'll roll those questions into those agenda items. Let's make sure we get those answered for her. Anyone else want to speak today? Yes, sir. Come on down. He's got a longer beard than Brian. I know. He makes his beard look small. Hello, mayor, commission, city manager. I'm Bill Davenport, 3946 Peters Drive here in PC. Um, I'm here in regards to I can't remember, it's 10 something on the farmers market. Um, we've submitted a we've submitted a permit for the upcoming year for the farmers market. Um, really don't know what to say. We've uh presented our option that we would like to proceed with for this particular year. We've experienced great growth with the city um which we believe is bringing a lot of benefit to downtown and the city um businesses. And when it gets time for that or now, I don't know the procedure really, but I'm able to answer any questions that I may have an answer for you. Awesome. We may call you up toward that agenda item. Yes, sir. Anyone else? Yes, sir. Come on down. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Ben McGee, 515 Bunkers Cove Road. So, um, I'm here for 10F Downtown Farmers Market. I'm just interested in the downtown farmers market not moving from location to location. I don't know if that was proposed, but I just heard stuff about that on
Facebook and through group chats and stuff like that. I would like if the downtown farmers market was in one place. Um it provides predictability for parking, for vendors, um for customers, people who are setting up, tearing down. Um even just knowing which vendors are there is nice. So when you go and you look for one of your favorite vendors and they're not there one weekend and it's kind of frustrating. So I can imagine vendors moving from place to place. Um moving from street to street, block to block can be uh frustrating for um for those who patron the farmers market. Personally, as a both a patron of the farmers market myself and as a business owner and someone who commutes through downtown every day, I would prefer to be at for it to be in one location um every weekend. I love the farmers market. I just don't want to see it bounce around quarterly, monthly, whatever may have been proposed if it's been proposed for it to move. What location do you like? What location do I like? Um, I really enjoyed it when it was in Mackenzie Park. I know that originally it was moved away from there because of the construction and you were there when I originally spoke to not having it be on to my dis dislike of it being on Harrison. um it wasn't detrimental to the point to where my business went in the red. However, we do did see about a 30 to about 35% decline in um our normal traffic um on Saturday on the Saturdays. Um it was okay. So, it's not conducive to my business per se. Um which selfishly that's selfish. However, uh my only prop my only request is that it just doesn't move from place to place. If it stays where it's at, what it is what it is. If it moves somewhere else, it is what it is. I just don't want to see it continue to hop around. Uh wherever I'd like to see it really isn't,
you know, I'm not really worried about it. As long as it's in one place, then I know I can go get that same stuff I get every weekend. Cool. Yes, sir. Thank you. It's our new neighbor. I know. Anyone Anyone else want to speak today? Last call. All right. Closing public comments. Moving on to consent agenda. Do I have a motion to accept the consent agenda? So move. Second. Have a second. Second. Please call the role. Commissioner Street. Yes. Commissioner Hughes. Oh, we we close public comments. Can I speak? Uh let's go ahead and finish the the roll call. One second. Commissioner Hughes. Yes. Commissioner Lucas. Yes. Mayor Branch. Yes. Motion passes four to zero. Yes. No. We technically closed it, but yes, I'm sorry, I can't hear. Well, that's okay. What agenda item are you speaking on? What agenda item are you speaking on? What do I want to speak on? Yes, ma'am. Go back. If you could go back to the mic so we can all hear you. I'm I can't hear. Speak up. Could Could you go to the mic, please, ma'am? Thank you. Okay. I'm sorry. I can't speak right into that. Okay. I'm sorry I can't hear. I really I'm hard to hear. Name and address for the record. Okay. My name is Ella Smith and I live at 1247 Capri Drive and I'm sorry I'm multiply disabled and I really can't hear. Okay. Um I'm a retired teacher. My husband is an attorney and my son and him own a big law firm in Atlanta and I'm very angry and I've come here many times and spoke over ordinances that have not been and do not have not that um regarding between town houses and I don't want to go into detail because I don't want to become angry because I am angry.
Um, as far as Venetian Villa, originally the work that was to be done there, the road was to be paved all the way to the end of Venetian Villa and there was to be sidewalks all the way to the end of the road on Venetian Villa. I went to every single meeting and I'm very aware that there were supposed to be roads all the way down Venetian Way and now all of a sudden they're stopping. So needless to say, I am very angry and I've run for office many times in Atlanta. My father-in-law was a senior state court judge in Decap County. So needless to say, I'm very angry that again, money has been spent in Panama City. I can see it. But when it comes to the outskirts of Panama City, again, it stops. So I'm here to tell you today that I am very angry. I don't get angry very often, but I am very angry as an individual who's disabled to see that the money stops on the outskirts of Panama City. So I am telling you, I am here to tell you that I will advocate and we will be back and I can assure you we will be back in mass and I will be running for office and things will change because it's not right for all the people in the city of Panama City not to be represented. I appreciate your time, every single one of you. But all the people in Panama
City pay taxes and all the people in Panama City should be represented. Every single one of them. We should have our canals. They should be done as promised. Again, we should be represented. Thank you very much. and our streets should have been paved. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Jonathan, can you get her Suzanne's card so we can have a meeting with her? Sure. Can you hand her my card, please? Thank you. Okay. Closing public comments. Moving on. We've passed the consent agenda. We are moving into the city attorney items. Uh any any city attorney items? None. None. Just the whole meeting. Jonathan, we are on 10 A. We are. So this is just as is standard practice after um notice of departure of a charter officer. There is generally the commission will give uh the remaining charter uh members direction on what they would be the next steps. Um that could be something as simple as um you know uh pausing for 30 uh days or so and coming back or or or having HR uh provide uh maybe a draft job description for the commission to take 30 days to review and provide feedback, you know, either through the city attorney or the city manager's office or the city clerk treasur's office depending on that vacancy. So really, we just want to know if there's if there's any action uh at this time that the commission would like us to take regarding the vacancy uh that is pending for one of the charter positions. Yeah. I I've never hired a clerk before. Uh and so I'd love to see uh potentially the staff come up with a with a description, but I'd like to see what other cities descriptions are when they hire clerks. Sure. Might be different. And just, you know, I'm not looking for a thousand different descriptions, but just kind of how they look at the position differently than us potentially. and let us discuss uh you know if that's that has a bearing in our decision- making. Yeah, I' I agree with that. I'd like to see is it possible to get at
the next commission meeting so that we I bet Miss Lewis can have us some stuff to look at by the end of the week. Okay. I' I'd love to see I know that there's been a discussion with the charter um review committee. I don't know if they've made any kind of formal adoption on you haven't watched every single one. So, I know that there's been discussion of of separating clerk and treasurer responsibilities. Has there been any action taken by them? They're still in the middle of that. Uh, Commissioner Street, um, they've that'll be the topic of the next probably meeting. Um, but, you know, even if they do recommend it, as a reminder, it has to come before this body for approval. It has to go before the voters. Um, you know, potentially in November, if we don't make the July deadline for the supervisor of elections, it'll have to go on our on our April meeting. um sorry, our April election of next year. So, I mean, you're looking at what eight eight or nine up to maybe uh 13 months before we have any final approval and any change to that uh from from the voters who ultimately have to sign off on the charter change requirements for the last time we put out a um looking for somebody to fill that position. You have what we were Yeah, I would defer to Mr. Zimmerman. He was here at the time and I believe he helped lead the effort. So yes, we we do have those. We can make that sounds like we can make that available. Uh we can uh provide you the information that's already in the charter about the duties in the charter. Provide you with a uh draft uh job description and also provide you with information from other other cities. Do we need to discuss or or have a workshop or distribute information on how to hire recruiter versus internal versus recommendations on that as well? we we could last time um um there there was discussion and and a recruiter was hired
eventually and uh and that there was you know I I don't I can't recall now exactly how the recruiter was selected but uh there was a selection process with proposed uh fees and that was provided to the commission and that information can be provided as well I believe from I'm making all these things because I'm not going to be doing it. Sorry. Sorry. Last time we did solicit for proposals for an executive search firm. I I can't remember exactly how many we got back. Six six or seven or so. We evaluated those made a recommendation to the commission and it selected one and and went that way. It was during COVID, so it was a unique time period to be recruiting. Um but so it did take a little longer than we would have liked but um but that's the route we went but the commission decided at that time to kind of have the city manager and the city attorney lead that effort. Okay. So I I don't know who should be leading it. I just would like to see some research coming to us so we can start thinking about it have a baseline amount of information to start discussing. I agree and I think we should move forward with filling the position. Um, and as the charter review process unfolds, uh, should there be a change, make it at that time. Cool. Do you need a vote on anything or is that enough information for you guys to move forward? Oh, yes. Granger. Do you want to say something to Commissioner Granger?
Yeah, especially there's no cost. Is there any cost to Yes. I think it was roughly $25,000. Oh, why do I need to pay somebody that much money to tell me? Yes or no? Yeah. I mean I' I'd love to see all those options kind of just a list of options so we can discuss those Mhm. could go ahead. I was going to say to me we we have uh some it'd be interesting next 15 days or so distribute some information and then potentially vote on a path for the next meeting, next 30 days, something like that would be a nice tentative date to kind of aim for. Yeah, I think we could make that, sir. We could provide some information on on, you know, where the job could be posted at at no cost and then obviously just get feedback from y'all and then move forward with the job description at the timing that y'all so direct. Sounds good. I'd just like to say I've received um communication uh that someone citizens are kind of concerned about uh Jan. And I just want to say that she happily turned in her retirement and um is uh setting sail into I don't know about the wild blue yonder but the country to the to the farm or to the country.
Yeah. And um so we are very thankful for her years of service to the city. And and maybe maybe to give a little addition background, we do have an open deputy treasurer position that's created some delays um in the ability to get audits done and things like that. And so her being able to be freed to just work on that rather than sit in a three-hour meeting with us is I think something that's been welcomed to her as well. So yeah, cool. No vote needed. We can move on to item 10B. Item 10B is consideration of approval of budget amend resolution 20260224.2 2 and LPA 0035. Amendment number six, an increase of $1,500,000 to the existing subreipient agreement between the Florida Department of Environmental Protection or DP and the city of Panama City for the Panama City Kings Point Pretty Bayou septic to sewer water expansion phase 3. As background information, amendment number six adds $1,500,000 to the agreement with no match from the city, increasing the total grant amount to $8,499,520. This increase was requested under the 2025 2026 general appropriations act of the Florida legislature. This previous modification amendment number four was effective May 18th of 2020 and set the agreement amount at $6,999,520 and0. Phase three of the Pretty Bayou septic to sewer improvements includes the installation of approximately 16,000 linear feet of low pressure sewer with connection to existing city sewer main, 15,400 linear feet of portable water man to connect to the existing water system and 35 additional fire hydrants that will increase coverage and provide more fire protection.
Staff recommendation through the director of public works is that the commission approve this request and the accompanying budget and resolution. Mr. Mayor. Yes. Do I have a motion to accept? Motion to approve. Second. Any discussion? I got a question. Um, this money is coming to us. We're matching. No, no matching, sir. No matching. Yeah. This was an effort by the D. They actually initiated it and and it's really something they've initiated from Pensacola to Key West. They want to get septic tanks off our coastal communities and waterways. So that was that was in the governor's first term, I think, that he he tried to phase one. We did phase one, which is the pink, and then as an aside, we did phase two. Uh but thankfully, construction prices started coming down. Uh so we actually had about an extra $900,000 from the appropriations for phase 2. So we're able to go into phase three and pull out a section, which is what you'll see as phase 2a. uh which then reduce the scope further for phase three. So we feel confident uh that we can get this wrapped up for the remaining month monies that we have uh and upon your approval we'll go out to bid just as soon as possible. Awesome. Uh any other discussion? Please call the rolling. Commissioner Street. Yes. Commissioner Hughes. Yes. Commissioner Lucas. Yes. Mayor Branch. Yes. Motion passes four to zero. Okay. I have a budget resolution to read and this is um you have 10 B. 10B. Thank you. And it is resolution number 20 260224.2 and it's the uh increase and it is to increase the budget. I don't see the title anyway. It's to increase the agreement between the FD and the city of Panama City for the King's Point pretty value and water expansion phase three. All right. Item 10 C
uh is related and it's consideration to approve panhandle engineering amendment number seven to task order number 13067 for Pretty Bayou improvements phase 3 for CI services in the amount of up to $230,000. As background information, uh, on April 29th, 2020, the city of Panama City contracted with Panhandle Engineering for the design of the Pretty Bayou Septic Super Project for $499,490. This was directed under task order number 1367 with the following six amendments. This new amendment number seven will increase the scope for CI services to include phase three uh construction management at a cost of $230,000 bringing the new task order to 1,381,320. Details of the additional work to be performed is in the attached proposal that was dated December 18th of 2025 for the commission and information is in your packet. Staff recommendation to the director of public works is that the commission approve this request. Mr. Mayor, yes. I'll enter on a motion. Motion to approve. Second. Any discussion? Please call the role. Commissioner Street. Yes. Commissioner Hughes? Yes. Commissioner Lucas? Yes. Mayor Branch? Yes. Motion passes. Board to zero. Item 10D is memorandum of understanding seeking approval from the commission with Maselina Investments LLC and Mackenzie Partners LLC for 300 Leverne Avenue as background information and closes the proposedou or memorandum of understanding between the city and the owner and developer of the property located at 300 Leverne Avenue. The purpose of theou is to approve the use of density bonuses in the downtown district as provided by section 104-33 of the unified land development code. This section states that a development may utilize density bonuses up to 60 units per acre and may exceed the maximum floor area ratio of 3.0 if
certain public benefits or development amenities are proposed. Theou lays out the following public benefits and amenities for 300 Lever Avenue. public access prominade along the water, public parking, a rooftop amenity and motorport/plaza. Theou also establishes a commitment to coordinate the relocation of drainage and utility easements on the property. Following approval of theou this evening, the next step is for the developer to finalize the development plans and submit a development order application for review by staff and our planning board. The pro, excuse me, the project is considered a major development as defined by the unified land development code, which requires final approval by the planning board. Uh, uh, staff recommendation through the director of development services is that the city commission approved theou withina investments LLC and Mackenzie Partners LLC for the property at 300 Lever Avenue. Mr. Mayor, I will entertain a motion. So move. Second. Any discussion? Yeah. If we have to approve theou, why don't we have to approve the the major the uh planning board does? The planning board does. I think he's asking why them and not the commission. Why not us? Because that's on the on the large side here. We're we're approving the and I'm for it. So, I'm just asking a question. The uh uh upon review and Mr. Fuller can address it, but Mr. Burke who uh works with on planning issues with us and Mr. Fuller, it appears that the city commission actually approves the residential density bonuses. And so the B and that has to do with what public amenities are being proposed. And so the city commission is saying we know that you know it's very general but these are the public in uh amenities prominade and parking and then the develop then that provides instruction
to the planning department to make sure that the development order includes those public amenities and then the lever or the leverage is that unless those public amenities are provided a co isn't ultimately issued on the project. Is that a fair statement? That that's fair. Yeah, that's that's a correct statement. Yeah. Tonight, what what's under consideration is for the record, Michael Fuller, director of development services. Well done, Mr. Mayor. What do you mean? Um, what uh what's under consideration tonight is is the use of the density bonus, the the 60 units per acre, as well as uh coordination of moving some of the easements around on property. Um once that's done, then they will submit for DOU and we'll make sure that the DO does meet those 60 unit per acre. We'll make sure the easements are relocated as as laid out in this in thisou. But thisou is the start of of the do process I guess is how you could look at it. So would it not come back to us after it goes through the planning commission as other developments. There's uh no the uh per our unified land development code the planning board is the final decision maker on major developments which that being said uh colleagues I'd like to go on the record to to note that the public amenities that are uh outlined here include uh parking and that is something that um I'd like the uh planning commission and and the process that is going to follow to make sure that those public amenities do come to fruition. that um as they stated them here u because that's a great need in the community and when we increase the density we're also increasing the need for parking downtown. So they don't have
it when it's time for the C they don't get their C if you tie it that way. Well as I understand it this is a general document but it's not a hold the feet to the fire document. Yeah. I mean, they'll need to demonstrate when they submit for a development order that that they are going to provide some public parking that they are going to have a rooftop amenity that they are going to have a prominade along the waterfront. Those things will be part of our review when we review the for the DA. Michael, if something doesn't happen, does it come back to us? Yes. Yes, sir. So, anything outside if it does not get fulfilled as as Commissioner Lucas said, you guys would have it would have to come back to you. Well, and to add, you know, the part of the process of of when you're buying a property is the do, you know, you don't want to buy something when you don't know what you can do to it. Exactly. And or with it. And so this is just a part of the pro. So they have confidence moving forward to purchase the property to move into just it's a it's a knot of confidence. They spend $100,000 on architecture plans that we don't then approve. So these are all just the little steps that build confidence for investment. So and I think that's uh that's a good thing. And I'm not saying that um I'm against it. I just want what's suggested here for public amenities. Uh the rooftop in a in a development like this could become a luxury and not accessible to the public. Sure. As it goes through the process and you know as things pencil out and so we are approving the density because it will add public value and I'd like to see that um as it goes forth. I kind of thought about this like you don't get the the plats back to sign you and I was like I want to know about that and here's one where we'll know because it's going up out of the ground but why you why we don't get it back is is odd to me. What's a motor court? Um it it's it's basically where they you can turn off the road into the project. Um circular driveway I
guess the public access. Yes. Okay. Okay. one one additional reason, Commissioner Hughes, that that that you're seeing this and uh not just the planning commission. Um at some point, hopefully when the project when the project's built, uh this allows the water and sewer and storm water to be relocated. So once it's they'll they'll put it in place. They'll dedicate the new system to the city and then the mayor will be asked to sign a quick claim deed and that quick claim deed abandons and gets rid of the existing. So that but it will not need to come back because that's all been identified in theou. What about a quick claim deed for the the circle that's in the middle that we own? Is that happening that closing when that piece of property the city does in the middle of the three and a half acres? Do we do that when they're buying it or after the when he's signing the quick claim deed to transfer the uh the easement? Yes, that there I'm you know that I haven't seen the title commitment. I know that I've I have focused on the easement, but obviously the city is saying that the only interest the city has in this property are those new the new water and sewer, the new storm water that's there uh after relocation. Okay. I'm very excited and very supportive of this this project has probably been you should have been there 30 years ago. It should have been something there. So, I'm very excited and very thankful for the investment and uh willing to support it and want to move forward. And if there's any other discussion, let's So, I worked on this for 15 years. Three offers on it. Never got the closing. The common denominator moves out and now you get it's gonna have a project. So, thank y'all for bringing it to uh fruition. Yeah. Yeah. We're excited. We're thankful. Any other discussion? Please call the role. Commissioner Street. Yes. Commissioner Hughes. Yes. Commissioner Lucas, yes. Mayor
Branch, yes. Motion passes 4 to zero. Item 10E is consideration of approval for Vulkar Incorporated for bid PC26-016 professional services for Panama City Rails with Trails. As background information, the city through the city's purchasing division uh solicited qualifications from experienced and qualified engineers to provide professional services for the city of Panama City Rails with Trails project. The scope was to seek qualifications from experienced and qualified engineers to provide professional services for the planning of a multi-use trail and associated items along the Bayine Railroad, now Jennese and Wyoming, uh, system. This project will include phase one, Hathway Bridge to Michigan Avenue, phase two from Michigan Avenue to State Road 77, Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard to State Road 30, US 98, and West Beach Drive. and phase three, Frankfurt Avenue from State Road 30, US 98, West Beach Drive to the end of pavement. The purpose of this project is to facilitate pedestrian and bicycle commuting and recreation by adding a multimodal link to established routes serving the port facility, FSU, GF Coast State College, various schools, parks, businesses, and a variety of city neighborhoods. A panel of five staff independently reviewed each submitt and found Vulker to be the most qualified firm. Results were sent to the Florida Department of Transportation and they concurred with city staff's findings. The RFQ was issued pursuant to section 287.000055 rather of the Florida statutes, the Consultants Competitive Negotiation Act or CCNA for continuing contracts. Approval this evening by the commission will allow the city to enter into negotiation with Vulkar Engineering Incorporated and we will return recommended task order to the commission for
approval at a later date. Staff recommendation through the director of public works is that the commission approve this request for the award of bid PC26-016. Mr. Mayor, I will entertain a motion. Motion to approve. Do I have a second? Second for discussion. Yeah, let's discuss. Um, my reason for asking about contacting the railroad company because we were going to kick him in the mouth on the first one and ask him to dance on the second one. And um, so I'd like really for us to talk to him about that and I think we probably have a better result on this ask um, before we start charging them. These these paths were chosen based on the rail obviously. Do we already have easements? Do we already is it out? Is that going to be a process or do we just Why do we need their participation? Is it easements in perpetuity? That's part of the process. Uh, Commissioner Hughes, this will take the the phases that were referenced. Um, basically the pink and the green uh and and move that up to 30% design that involves any necessary rightaway permits um site analysis and planning. Um, so again, that takes us to 30% for phase one and phase two, which includes uh the items that you referenced in order to move that project forward. Some some places we have right away, maybe some places we don't that we need that. And I I think that's what's accomplished inside of this scope is trying to figure out what's all needed. Okay. Any other discussion? Please call the RO. Commissioner Street. Yes. Commissioner Hughes, yes. Commissioner Lucas, yes. Mayor Branch, yes. Motion passes four to zero. All right. Item 10F
is discussion of the uh downtown farmers market uh mayor, commissioners, I I did send uh an email uh yesterday and then uh which was a forwarding of an email, excuse me, from Mayor Branch. And then additionally, we have a letter uh that came in from the downtown improvement board. Just a a quick uh summary of where we are today. Um uh as of today, um the uh downtown farmers market has approval to remain on Harrison Avenue in between Oak and 4th through the end of this month, which will be Saturday. Uh starting March 1st, uh they are required to move back to uh in and around Park Avenue, Oak Avenue, and Bell Booth Place in and around McKenzie Park uh for that issue. um as constru the issue was the construction uh had moved them off of that area but they are now able to move back. However, uh there is a new permit application which is sitting with our PCR director Mr. My uh I did request him to hold off on moving that forward until we had a conversation uh this evening. And that request is to remain on Harrison Avenue uh from Oak to 4th this Saturday week, which would be March 7th, and that's because of the Flux Festival, but then be able to uh be moved uh the following Saturday, March 14th, uh to be from 4th Street all the way to Sixth Street. I will share it's the opinion of our PCR team and the police department that given their current size and continued growth that that stretch along Harrison Avenue from Oak to 4th is simply too tight. Uh as is some of the areas in and around McKenzie Park. Um I I I I personally do agree and I've stated this in the email. I do agree with the point that Mr. McGee made. I do think moving it around uh will will be problematic. Uh we've had it where it is now for about seven or
eight months. Uh my recommendation is that uh the commission approve the modification to the permit uh to remain on um Harrison from Oak to 4th just for this coming weekend because of flux, but then starting the 14th uh move to um Fourth Street to 6th Street. Let's re-evaluate that in October when we have about seven or eight months worth of data. Uh and then we can compare it to the two different um sections. Uh and then as we consider the permit uh for 2027, uh I will also add that that moving it up a little bit further uh like that does uh keep it kind of away from the 012 construction area which we do expect to last uh throughout uh the rest of the year. So uh that's the background. Uh Mr. Mayor, commissioners, happy to answer any questions that y'all have. I know this will be a uh a passionate discussion with lots of different opinions and viewpoints, but uh Mr. My is here as is uh Captain Dusty Patterson with the police department that can answer any questions uh in regards to this farmers market and the operation in downtown Panama City. Mr. Mayor. Yeah, thank you. Uh I was thinking about you know seven years ago downtown how there's no farmers market, there's no traffic problem. There's no construction. There's no uh you know there was lots of vacant storefronts and um you mean eight years or seven and a half? Oh yeah. Seven years ago. Oh yeah. It was it was true. And how far things have come. Even when the farmers market started, it was all in Gateway Park. It was like uh six or seven vendors and Bill was one of them. He was selling coffee. And how far we've come. And I couldn't have been my wildest imagination. Imagine a downtown with 8,000 people on a Saturday morning and an arcade and boutiques and you we're talking about a multi-million dollar projects now. What a what an amazing reality this is. And you know, with me living downtown, I go for walks now. People are, "Come here. I gotta talk to you about the farmers market." And everywhere I go, "Let me talk to you about the farmers market."
And now I'm hiding, walking down alleys to walk my dog. Cuz everywhere I go, I get, "Let me tell you about the farmers market." Uh, and and it is it's a great problem. There's so many people downtown. I even I told Jonathan um I uh I was trying to get out of my own house because of Harrison Avenue being closed and all the different I had to go went down to the marina couldn't get out. There was a traffic jam there and then I tried to get up to the courthouse the oneway alley. Couldn't get up that. So then I went back down to the and then went through the cove to get out of downtown because there was so much traffic. A smile on your face too. Oh yeah. Yeah. And there were moments where I was like dag damn it. And I could see someone, especially about a kid, and screaming it out of your car, you'd get a little upset. And um, you know, I go back to the fact that we spent a we as in the city spent a ton of money on Harrison Avenue. And Harrison Avenue is a place for people. And um, you know, businesses need some some consistency. You know, even if you, you know, even my own businesses have a varying amount of hours and we are not open every day, same hours every day. There's, you know, hour or two here. We're closed certain days. And that does trip people up anytime there's not a consistent pattern. I'd like to see the farmers market, you know, and I appreciate the DIB distilling down. They went through a lot of heated discussions and a lot of conversations distilling down. I'd like to see it on Harrison Avenue. Um whether it rotates or not, I there's pros and cons to everything. Um but to me, too much of a rotation this side, that side. You what we want is predictability. You want to be able to tell your employees they're like my employees. They know that on Saturdays they need to park all the way up near the Marie, you know, hotel motel up there because that's where the parking spots are going to be. And you want to be able to predict to your even your customers, hey, I know that these pockets of this part of town will be available on these days. And so some of that predictability is helpful to employees and uh and customers. So, you know, whether it stays on one block of Harrison Avenue
or rotates on Harrison Avenue, I'm indifferent to that, but I'd like to see it on Harrison Avenue, but in general, I'm thankful we're even talking about this. Right. Sure. You know, and you know, and the reality, too, is it's it's thousands of people who are there to buy and they're in a good mood and there it's puppy dogs and strollers, you know, it's not uh you know, it's not a rowdy crowd and and uh and they're there to buy things. So, we're thankful for that. So I ask people regularly, where does downtown start? Starts at sixth street, but most people will tell you the clock tower because that's what has been open the most for the longest. And I think the city before you and I got here has done a good job of keeping you promoting and doing all that, but I think it's also time that we now include we need to invite 400 block and 500 block because they're downtown. Um, so from that vantage point, I've been trying to come up with, you know, a way to have the public interact with those businesses. At one time, I had some idea where you build the longest Subway sandwich or something and you have to go into each business and get something that you've been in the you in there to participate. Um, this this does somewhat solve that problem in terms of it puts people in front of those businesses, but it also creates problems at the same time. Um, I look at it from I need the business owners to tell me what's probably best rather than me tell them. Uh, I don't own a business down there. And what I hear the most of is parking, not for the public, but for their like one business, I need parking so we can do deliveries and all that. Okay. And that's they they lose that ability on the front side. I like rotation because it keeps it in front of everybody equally. I think the the permit
that's in front of us is what 7 months and 3 months or something like that. You know, seven up on the four and 500 block and three down on the 300 block. Is that No. No, sir. There is no permit for that. The permit that is sitting at Yeah. Right. But the only thing that's been formally submitted that's sitting at Mr. My level pending tonight's meeting is to move it to 4th through 6th starting March 14th for the rest of the year and then next weekend being able to stay in between Oak and Fourth so that they don't interfere with flux. That's what's sitting. Okay. Correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Myro. That is correct. Thank you. So police perspective, I'm confused as to why they would be against it because we're not adding any more police. We're we have the same amount of in stop, you know, in zones, if you will. Um, so we're not adding anymore. So I was I had a question about that. Um, from the city's perspective, specifically the city manager, why um why would you suggest it stay down there um in one spot? What what was the reason for that? I think a lot of the reasons that um Mr. McGee mentioned I agree with. He actually thought some others that I didn't. I think predictability is good. Moving it around, I think, will cause confusion. I think you get into a battle rhythm and people can know where to park and where to go. There is a little bit more parking uh the further north you get in and around city hall. And again, we have about 7 months or 8 months worth of data um from when it moved to Harrison Avenue because of construction in in ' 012. Uh and this would give us roughly, you know, another eight months worth of data. Then we can compare and then try to make a decision moving into 2027. Do we want to do the first half of the year on the southern half or the back half? Or maybe people are like, you know what, maybe we want to go back to Beach Drive. I believe the desire eventually is that it will grow all the way from Sixth Street all the way to Beach Drive. I believe that is the the eventual desire
of the farmers market. I've heard that anecdotally from a few people. So, and I think it has that potential given the growth that we've seen really just over the last few years since I've moved back um uh you know, back home. And I want to commend Bill. You've done a great job and thank you for bringing 8,000 people, you know, helping it get set up for downtown. That's really cool. Um, Bill's like famous farmers market. I know he's like talking. Would you mind if if people here that wanted to talk about this? Sure. We can reopen public comments. Is that okay? Sure. If you want to speak about the farmers market, come on down. Um, and including you, sir, that went into three minutes. If you wanted Sure. We're willing to hear more comments if you want to speak about farmers market. arcade guy. Mhm. That's a cool arcade. That was very cool. Mhm. Well, thank you for breaking how you normally do this and giving me a chance to talk. I couldn't be here earlier. I was still closing my business. I love the farmers market. Let me preface that by saying I love the farmers markets. Address. Name and address. Oh, Leanne Harding. I own Main Street Antiques on Harrison at 437 Harrison Avenue. Um, I love the farmers market. It brings a fantastic demographic downtown every Saturday and um I want nothing more than for it to succeed and for it to grow. I have real concerns. Uh my my business has been downtown for a decade now. I just celebrated my 10th anniversary in November. Um and um I've gone through a hurricane that significantly impacted my business. I've gone through COVID that signific significantly impacted the business. Um, a road closure 3 weeks after I bought my building and moved in where uh, you know, the road was closed for 6 months. And um I know as a board it's your job to do the most that
you can for the most number of people, but I think you have to take into account that um we've we've really had some significant problems downtown. Um, I'm concerned that my business being closed, the front road being closed every Saturday. I I try to know that some of the other businesses are really going to benefit from 6 8,000 people walking past them. My business is more of a destination. The people that are coming to me are coming from Atlanta, from Birmingham, from New Orleans. They come specifically to shop at my store on a Saturday where we can load giant pieces of furniture into their uh uh trailers for them to leave. If the road is closed, they are not going to be able to shop at my store. They're not coming back another day cuz they're in town specifically that day to shop. So, I I'm really afraid that uh having the road closed on Saturdays is going to significantly impact my business. Right now, I know that I have customers complain that they can't uh shop on Saturdays because all of the parking is taken up either by customers of the market or by vendors of the market. So, the road being closed in front is going to just kill my Saturday business. And uh I'd like you to consider if it's going to happen, I'll live with the three months. Nobody said anything about seven months. The DIB even recommended it only be three months in front of each block. Uh, seven months will kill another Christmas. You guaranteed us that we would only have one Christmas damaged uh by road closures and now you're saying there's going to be another. So, um, I hope you stick to your word and and, uh, don't close us for another Christmas season. Thank you for allowing me to speak. Thank you. Anyone else?
Katherine Shores um board member of the downtown improvement board and also a property owner and representative of six storefronts on Harrison Avenue. And what I have asked you each for is equality. So, I don't understand the desire to go into the northern two blocks and stay there for a long period of time. All I'm asking for, I think we all agree, we love it on Harrison Avenue. And in the 300 block where I am, we love it in the 300 block. So, please just consider sharing the love or those that hate it, share the pain. Either way, let's be even and equal. So the rotation, it's not a big deal. We're just shoving it two blocks south, two blocks north. I just don't understand why the equality of that cannot be considered when we've already moved it once. It did not affect the market negatively. We continue to thrive. And so let's go into four and 500. I don't care how many months or which ones they are, but let's just do it evenly. Four and 500, two and 300 evenly across the board. That's on my ask. But thank you guys. Thank you. So in this meeting we're just discussing or you want us to push forward with a motion of something. So again, yeah, I'm not it doesn't have to be in two blocks. I understand the traffic, but to me rotate it, I'm fine with that, too. So if I just point out a couple things. First off, it was asked by at least two of you. I don't know which ones, but the downtown farmers market pays $1,000 a month to the u to the DIIB. In addition, they pay for security, the police expense, plus they pay for three employees to operate the farmers market. So, I is the permitting.
That is correct. So, if the DIB is asking us for a specific piece, why are we not discussing that? That's my the recommendation I put forward and I respect that some people are saying differently, but the permit that was submitted by the DIIB and Mr. Davenport is starting March 14th, moving to the north of Fourth Street for the remainder of this calendar year. Fact, that is what is sitting with our folks right now. And as far as the the the road closures, obviously I think y'all know this and and I do love and cherish our downtown business owners. I was obviously talking about construction. I have no control over road closures for event permits that lies with this body. Okay. So, so if I can get clarity, so we've got a permit from the DIB stating one thing and then we've got a letter stating another thing. Is that am I understanding? You're right. That is correct. That's confusing. Hello, Bill Davenport with the farmers market. Um maybe I can help clear up some of the confusion. Um cuz even to me it's kind of as clear as mud. Um the permit was requested just earlier than the meetings that took place with the DIB and the businesses. So with the information at that time we submitted the the permit which was the forum 500 block. From that meeting um the consensus was a rotational um market. I submitted in the email um what the rotation would look like in my opinion. Um the DIIB submitted theirs. I think there was a little bit of a disconnect between adding some additional places into that rotation that from a farmers market standpoint um would probably be detrimental to what we're looking to grow with downtown with the foot traffic. And my assumption was that was we had clarified and worked through that.
So it was going to be a rotation on Panama or on Harrison Avenue only, not into Mackenzie Park. And um so the permit submitted is for a for a permanent spot. Due to the timeline, I didn't know whether we needed to pull that back if we could get it amended and put back in or if that's something you guys as a commission or guys and gals as a commission can make the change if it comes to a vote. But that's the reason why there's a disconnect on what the communication is saying versus what the permit is is the permit got in on the timeline, but the meeting from the DIIB and and us are on separate schedule. So you're open to the rotation up and down. So I I am good with the the rotation. We just want stability. You know, if the rotation happens, we're totally fine with that and we'll make it work as long as it's on Harrison. um the stability piece, you know, it's knowing what the schedule will be so that we can effectively communicate it to the community, to our vendors, and to all the stakeholders that are involved so everybody can plan whether it be parking, foot traffic, all the stuff that comes with it. So, there's so much who who who filed this. Can we just enable staff to like rotate on Harrison Avenue? The the sequence, I don't really care. Approve the permit. Well, but I don't want to approve a permit when I don't I don't know what's on the permit and I don't want it to be, oh, we have a minute now. Can we just have staff work with Bill and the or whoever and to get a permit that's uh you know, a rotation on Harrison Avenue, the increments that that he wants or what makes sense to whether it's six and six or 33 and three, it doesn't matter to me. It seems like there's some consensus from the merchants on a rotation, some consensus on a rotation on Harrison Avenue. Yeah. So I so I'm hearing the the rotation piece. Do you feel like you and the DIB can get to a schedule that
makes sense? Yeah, we can we can definitely, you know, split it the the rotation. Again, this is just kind of discussions that with the DIB. We had submitted ours. I think there there was a little bit of disconnect. Um that's been clarified but not communicated effectively. Yeah, you you clarified it. One thing to add as as business leaders talk to me um Bill is one thing take this for a resort. I'm not a farmers market expert so please don't take this as me telling you what what to do any shape or form but one of the ways that was described is the back of the tent is like facing their business and so most of the people are walking down the middle versus walking down the sides. Is that not true? That's that's incorrect. You changed it. So we we have set the market up with the intent of pushing the foot traffic to the businesses. So when you're walking, you're either walking on a right or a left side towards the business. So you guys have already figured that out. Sounds like you guys have actually kind of clarified most of this and that there's just a disconnect between the existing permit and what needs to come. So yeah, I feel perfectly comfortable with I think you guys have got enough rotation I think is clear. So, and it's fair. Yeah. And then take the data and you may come up with something different. You may get a group of business owners that want it right in front of their business. I would like to say, you know, a rotational from from when you look at markets across the nation, your markets that that are thriving markets, economic generators, um, as far as foot traffic and putting, you know, kind of rear ends and seats per se. Um, those markets are are they have stability. you know, stability that can either look at permanent, but when you start getting too many, oh, by the ways, you know, like we're going to add an additional place. When it starts getting too complex, you start really hurting the product that you're trying to to grow and utilize. Being on the same road though,
even though it's up and down, is that that's where we can make that work. And the reality is they're not drastic moves to the rotation between those blocks. So, if you are used to showing up, say on the 300 block, all you do is turn to your right and you're seeing the market on the 400 block. And if you show up on the 400 block, you turn to your left, you're going to see it on the 300 block. So, it's not a drastic change where somebody's really going to have to go search and see where the market is, they're going to be able to find it. And we're going to have good communication out through our different social media um to be able to communicate, hey, that's where it is. So I I I don't think it's a a big problem. Um and it's something we can definitely make work given the sentiment I'm hearing here at the deis that um if it goes back to staff and DIIB and and you all to work out the permit and bring it back to us March 10th. That's still within a time frame. Uh no, I mean we need to approve um March or y'all need to approve March 7th to stay where they're at. I'll motion to stay where you're at for another week so that you are through March what is it? Uh March 7th. March 7th to give us time for you guys to get back to the final appointment. Does that work? Any discussion? Please call the role. Commissioner Street. Yes. Commissioner Hughes. Yes. Commissioner Lucas. Yes. Commissioner Gr. Sorry. Commissioner Granger. Mayor Branch. Yes. Motion passes four to zero. So, um, things that I've heard that this isn't having to do with that like the restaurants are saying that that day is is now tough because I guess the food trucks. Uh, do you have any data? We need to keep data on moving that up. Does that help them? Uh, I hear u there's a lot of good, but also hearing that. Do you have a system of no competition coming out
of the farmers market versus existing buildings or existing businesses as much as possible as much as possible within reason. We don't we we take into consideration that a like type item, we're not setting them right in front of their store. You know, again, this is where it kind of gets nuanced a little bit because what you consider close to your store and what I consider close to your store may not be the same thing. We don't get it perfect every week, but what we do is we take that feedback when we hear it and then we try to adjust to make it right so everybody can can thrive and be happy in the in the situation. So, we do take it where we we're not putting a what we would consider a liked item or or a direct competitor in front of a store, but that doesn't mean there's not going to be one in the farmers market. We're just going to locate them differently. Are you in charge of the layout of where Yes, sir. Is that how you do Okay. Yes, sir. And Bill's got 8,000 opinions on there. You know, I want this merch and this thing goes here. Too many sourdough people and none of the sourdough people. And if you boil a farmers market down, it's the art of hurting cats. So it is. We appreciate you, Bill. Yes, sir. We do. That's a lot of cats. Um, so do I have a motion to adjurnn? So move. Motion to what? To adjourn. Yeah. Is that a second? Please call the role. Why don't you amend? Commissioner Street. Yes. Commissioner Hughes. Yes. Commissioner Lucas. Yes. Mayor Branch. Yes. Motion passes for We're going to take a 10-minute break. Then we have our meeting. Thank you.
usually smiling at me nicely. All right, the special call Panama City Community Fund Board of Directors meeting for February 24th is hereby called to order. Um, we will have uh the roll call, please. Um, Madam Secretary, Director Street here. Director Hughes uh here. Director Lucas here. Director Director Branch here. You have forum. Thank you so much. Uh board members, you have the uh the minutes from the January 13th, 2026 Panama City Community Fund Incorporated Board of Directors meeting. Staff would entertain a motion to approve the minutes. Second. We have a motion to second. Is there any discussion? Madam Secretary, please call the role. Director Street. Yes. Director Hughes. Yes. Director Lucas, yes. Director Branch, yes. Motion passes four to zero. Thank you. Item two is audience participation. Each speaker is limited to three minutes and these are only uh items for the um authority underneath the Panama City Community Fund. Please come to the podium and give your name and address. Seeing none, audience participation is closed. Moving into item number three, which is discussion and authority, discussion of authority rather, and procedures related to expenditures from the newly created cost centers for the MLK rec center, and we did include Trudale Park, but uh we will speak to that during uh this agenda item. Mayor, commissioners, sorry, board members, I did put down uh a uh a memo on each spot here this evening. Uh this was also emailed earlier that uh it spells out um the uh center scholarship program and how we plan to approach this. This is a collaborative effort between the city manager's office uh the parks, culture and recreation department and our housing and community services department. Uh you kind of have two options in front of you. Um staff recommends
the city commission select option one uh which we believe is more simple uh and more quicker. Uh and we would be happy to entertain uh any questions uh that you may have. Uh and additional uh we have Mr. Meyer and um uh Miss Wear that are here that are able to answer any questions. But basically, applicants will be able to apply for a one-year membership scholarship that covers a residential membership valued up to $100. Individuals can also apply for a scholarship to cover the cost of paid programming such as summer camps, STEM events, etc. up to three times a year valued of up to $150. So this does answer the question that was asked earlier in the commission meeting uh to this end. So um staff would entertain a motion to approve um for the purpose of having any uh type of deliberation. I move that we approve both options one and two given the distinction in incomes that um option one uh certainly uh gets those who qualify and have that kind of uh of uh documentation but there's a gap that option two would uh would fill. All right. Is there a second to that motion? I'll second. All right. There's a second. Is there any conversation or or questions of staff from the rest of the board? Yes. I would just like to have an update maybe in say 6 months on how many people have taken advantage of option one and option two because I'd be hardpressed to think that somebody that was in option one is not an option two. But maybe that is the case. So well actually it's the reverse. It's reverse that there are those who who are not at the lowest end that qualify for those state programs but would fit under the U AMI at a different level. Okay. Yeah. I'll just note we have had about 2,000 accounts set up since January what was it the 15th uh when
we started. So 2,000 and uh so they're coming in for Yes sir Mr. How many of those are free versus Well, they're all free right now. Okay. Yeah. How many of those will turn into pain? We don't know yet. We don't know yet. Okay. Um, let me see if I can find uh I'll let you know after tonight. So, the this this uh uh this fund we're talking about, you know, I've been after trying to my goal is to have 10,000 a year by companies donated going forward $2,500 by four in separate ones. And their first question is where is it going? That means not the general fund. Um and how is it being spent? And my idea of scholarship is for items that they have to join a me join to become a member so that they have access to rather than just going to be able to play basketball. Is that that's what we're talking about here? Right. Correct. If you show up during open basketball time, that's free. And so we wouldn't charge for that. But yes, the any contributions, as a reminder, we set up a line item specifically for the MLK rec center scholarship program inside the Panama City Community Fund. This is a totally separate fund. y'all operate as directors and not as city commissioners and mayor in this. There is u there is no connection with the general fund with this. This is a separate nonprofit account that has been set up. So uh and and additionally we have quarterly meetings uh and uh and we provide financial reports that y'all have to vote to basically acknowledge uh and approve. So you'll see every quarter uh the monies that are going out for this particular um benefit for folks at MK Rec Center. What now? But from this fund. From this fund. Correct. Okay. And can we keep once a quarter maybe we update those people that donate. Hey, here's how many people you help scholarship. You help you participate. Especially if there's more of a need. But I understand your question to be their money goes into the fund. It funds the membership. Then that money goes out of the fund. And where does it go?
And that question has been answered. But I think that's the question he's asking. Correct. So, it would go in a very systematic way to cover the cost of whatever event, whether it's a membership, whether it's one of these special things we spoke about, um, you know, the STEM events, the camps, and all that, and it would go into the appropriate fund on that end. Would everybody's fees go to cover certain expenses that we denoted because there's it's on the information page? That is correct. But it would be a specific individual transaction for an individual that meets the criteria of either option one or option two to cover that expense. It wouldn't just be like, hey, we're going to transfer, you know, $1,000 into the general fund. It has to be very systematic. It has to be specifically tied to an application. I come in and pay 100 bucks because I don't qualify. You come in and pay, you get the scholarship, but that $100 goes to whatever is checking. They both go to the same place. They both go to the same place. And that's what I'm want to make sure of. We're going to transfer that $100 scholar out of PCCF into that one one transaction at a time. All right. Yep. All right. Additionally, we have a um a letter that we would also like to approve. This is to use for soliciting contributions. I don't know if you'll have any edits to that. Uh this was something that our staff um uh drafted and and I provided edits to it, but I I we think it's good to go and uh we can circulate this in in PDF format and and circulate it through email. Uh if you'd like to have it printed and and hard copied to somebody with a more personal touch, happy to do that as well. Uh we can do either way. and and we're also happy to follow up uh you know and and let folks know you know maybe a couple times a year uh how many folks they were able to help, how many kids or families they were able to help uh with their contribution. Absolutely. I'd love for you to use the letter and then give us a report on how many people gave and if they didn't
give then we'll come back and is the letter going to be a requirement? I do. No, it is some of y'all asked for that. So you could go and and hand it to someone and say here here's what we're asking for. I would start the letter with dear person who loves the children of Padamos. That's right. Yes. And you would sal your salutation would be smiles. Yes, it would be. So, uh, do we vote yet? Y'all have it. We have a motion and a second on the floor. Sure. All right. All good. All right. Love it. So, we'll this will be signing off on option one and option two, uh, as well as the letter. So, Madam Secretary, please call the role. Director Street, yes. Director Hughes, yes. Director Lucas, yes. Director Branch, yes. Motion passes four to zero. And I just want to say thank you to uh direct the president, whoever you are. I am the I'm the president right now. Yes, ma'am. To the president and your staff for uh for moving this uh forward and bringing it to us. Um and uh thank you. You're very welcome. Most of the kudos goes to Mr. Jones, Mr. from my miss but I appreciate it on their behalf. Um I will state I just want to give a quick update on Trudale. So um as a reminder there was some some talk about this at the last meeting. We we're not going to create a line item for that because this is a a one-time project. Um so we are uh our plan at the March 10th commission meeting is to bring forward the bid recommendation for the parking lot. Uh we are working very quickly right now uh between uh PCR and the CRA and parks and uh and public works to get the building out to to bid for HRP. Uh and then after we get that out on the street, uh we are also working concurrently with um with uh Florida architects on the interior of the building and identifying exactly what we need. And then we would work with this commission, primarily
probably Commissioner Street, to go out to folks that have made offers to donate materials, labor, supplies, and when they make those contributions, whether it be labor, whether it be materials, uh that can be a one-time contribution specifically um earmarked uh or designated for the Trudale project. And what I've asked the team to do is to beyond the HRP money for the project, beyond the HRP money for the exterior of the building including HVAC, uh the full buildout uh of the inside, what is the approximate scope um that we we and what's the cost estimate on that and what do we need uh with facility maintenance and public works kind of helping manage that construction project so that we can go out and make specific asks for the people in the community that have offered to help build that out. And then we would of course supplement that a little bit as needed with CRA funds, but we have the ability to give them a donation that 100%. I think the reason why Miss Smith felt we didn't need to have a permit line item because this is Lord willing a project that will allow that part to sit there for 50 years before we have to do something else to it again. I just want to be able to get a donation. Yeah, absolutely. You'll be able to, sir. Yes, sir. Mr. We're going to pay for the upgrade of trees now or well, we have some HRP money, hometown revitalization program for the parking lot. It's be about 35 spots. Uh and then uh we're going to do a slab for eventual uh some pickle ball um uh in that area. And then uh and then a playground. We'll use some CRA money for that. Uh then we have another HRP fund. We roughly have $750,000 in HRP money for the Trudedell Park, including both the park, the parking lot uh and the uh and the clubhouse itself. We're going to maintain that gazebo that's been there for for generations. Uh the HRP money specifically for the clubhouse is the exterior. The roof's in good shape, so we won't need to do that. That'll help save some money. New windows,
new doors, new skinning, um HVAC, and then the necessary electrical for that. Then beyond that, staff will have to work within our current budget and contributions from the community to kind of do the finishing buildout of the inside of the clubhouse. But we have plans for that already from um uh from uh Florida architects and that. So what we're working on doing is kind of splitting those plans um for the clubhouse itself uh in order to both identify the what HRP can do kind of outside including HRP um I'm sorry including HVAC and then the inside of the building is what we will have to do through a combination of funds for the city CRA uh and then hopefully most of it if not all contributions from the private sector uh and then our facility I thought Mr. Pick said is that he they would kind of do the inside or they they had people they could complete the the project with you know uh either discounted rates or their labor is remember when he came up and talked to us that day. He did. I mean I know there's been other folks um Meer Electric has has offered to do some things. What we'd like to see is I mean there are some things that that our staff can do. Um for example the framing. So, you know, would you know, obviously, if we can get everyone to donate everything that we need for everything, that would be great. But I also, you know, I I think it's it's okay for us to have a little skin in the game. And if we could get, say, for example, someone to donate all the timber, all the lumber for framing, our guys could frame it up. And then you bring in Meer Electric to provide both the material and maybe the labor for the electric. That would be great. Uh we could maybe get someone to donate contributions to do all the sheetrock work. Uh that would be so those and again we're working on those those specific items right now. That's been my task to both logistics and facility maintenance as well as public works to the stuff that's not going to be covered by HRP. We want to be able
to have a clear scope kind of what we need so that we can then go out there as both elected officials and senior staff and talk to those community members that have already offered a desire to help get Trudale into the end zone. One of us up here knows how to get discounted from Lowe's while I build something. So maybe maybe we get uh some help there. Yeah. So it's basically the same process that we did with garden club. Very similar process to to the garden club. Correct. That worked out well. It did. And let me just say that was about a 1.1 to$ 1.2 million building that we built for a little over $600,000. So we'll go to a lot of the same folks. But again, some new folks have already reached out uh that are, you know, maybe more from the west side of town in the seniors area and have a lot of history and and would love to do that. So, yes, any contribution to that, whether it be material, labor, uh, they'll be able to get a, um, I don't know what would it be. It' be just an acknowledgement letter of the value. Correct, Miss Waldron? Yes. So, all right. If there's no more questions about Trudale or the MLK rec center, we'll entertain a motion to adjurnn. To adjourn. Second. No, no, he can send a motion. I'll second. All right. Any further discussion? All right. Call the role, please, Madam Secretary. Director Street. No. Yes. Director. Oh, no. I wanted to do that. You just want to know if we're listening right here. Uh, yes. Director Lucas. Yes. Threat branch. Motion passes. Motion ajourned. Being ajourned. Boom. You would have said no. And I would say no.
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