City Council - Regular Meeting

Okay. We're gonna go ahead and start.

Hello, everyone. We're gonna go ahead and start, and then hopefully the mayor comes in the next few minutes. But we'll go ahead and go down to Scott. Are you okay to start us off?

We're really cruising. Yeah. I'm just

seeing if you're on

what's happening in public works. First, we're gonna talk about projects that we haven't already talked about that are completed. One is a signal at Hundred 120 1 They responded to some very significant accidents at this intersection. And what we did is with UDA, we were slated to have a signal at a different location. I think it was 119.

And there's really not a sight distance issue and not as much traffic at that intersection, so we just kinda moved that signal down in here. So it worked out pretty good.

Scott, I've heard issues on this with people that are southbound turning left, whatever, the timing of the signals that that's been backing up.

Oh, okay. I'll have them look

at So maybe you can look at the timing of it. I

haven't heard that's the first I've heard of any issues. So I'll have them look at that.

By the way, what's

a high t intersection? What does that mean? Okay. So, like, on 13th East and Highland, we have a high t there. So high t is the through traffic on the t part can pretty flow. Actually, we have two on there. So I see. Yeah. And and the other part dysfunction. So we we install a median to separate that traffic so that they can safely keep free flowing,

K. Fingers sandwiches. This

is our zone four. We're on our fourth year of our five year program to repair all the sidewalks in Draper. As you know, earlier last year Yeah. We encountered this neighborhood. It's one of the sycamores that are showing on the right. But we're still our contractor will probably kick back up here anytime, get started on that. They're required to finish this project in Zone 4 by the June, and then we'll start on Zone 5. How many zones are there? Five. Okay.

Yeah. And the the idea, hopefully, is when we get through with the fifth zone, then our crews will be able to maintain. We we just there was no way we were gonna get up to the point where we were at a maintenance level. So we've been spending This is our storm drain detention basin that we are installing at 17 Rds, the property that the city purchased. And this is a new system that will be underground instead of above ground.

So, normally, these are too expensive for the city to install these, but we the developers participate with us. So it'll be a a good system that will have the capacity. And this is a non another ongoing project. Pump Station 3, we had our first shutdown January, I wanna say. And the next shutdown is scheduled for next week.

This will be the bigger shutdown. We'll fill the tanks in Suncrest, and we'll send out notices for people to conserve water. But it's not a major thing. We we we watch it very carefully. But this is actually inside Pump Station 3, and there's these two spots right here, one and two.

Those are where new pumps will go. Currently well, for the since it was installed, that station only had three pumps, and it's required that we we have two two additional. So in order for us to meet the state requirements, this is what we're doing. And I still am planning on organizing a tour for you council members. The this is a very critical pump station, and the pressures in this station are incredible.

It's over 400 PSI, which is is kinda scary, honestly. It is what it is. This is our 2,026 oh, now we're getting into the new projects that haven't started yet. 2026 pavement maintenance, it should not say completed. It has not started yet. So but this is the areas there are showing where we're winding on. We we spend almost $3,000,000 a year on pavement maintenance, and these are surface treatments that we we do. Sounds simple enough. We don't move up asphalt. We're not constructing curb and gutter.

But crazy enough, we get probably the most complaints out of this than we do with our other projects. So it's it's coming. It's fair warning that these areas will get done. It's really the purpose of the this these slurry seals and crack seals is really to preserve the pavement so that we don't have to replace it earlier. We wanna replace it have you know, we wanna do it later and preserve the pavement as long as we can. That's how we do it.

I think the problem is people don't understand. And they think you've left the road really rough, and there's, you know, rubbish everywhere, all the rocks. And Yeah. I wonder if we could do some communication with the community and say, heads up. We are doing these slurry seals. The intent is to increase the longevity of the roads. You may notice that the roads have excess asphalt and stones. That's intentional. We do have

information that goes out to those communities, But we'll definitely look I mean, every year we change it and try to modify it based on what we heard last previous year.

So even if we push it out on the city, we have done that as well. And I think that helps because they can start complaining about it, but someone will have seen it, and they'll be like, oh, I think I know what that is.

And we do have different treatments. So if if we're doing a more extensive treatment, there are loose rocks

Is that Port Street in the green that's being redone then?

Yes. Part of Port Street. Okay. Not all of it. Any other questions about this?

If this is not a final map, it's pretty close. There is a part of Minuteman that's shown on here that we will not do because the state's going to be coming in five years or so within five years with the widening of I 15. It's gonna be very extensive into Draper's. It's gonna actually take out a lot of the businesses along. It's gonna widen push Manhattan to the east, and they're adding, I think, three lanes to I 15.

So it it'll be a a very big project for you to add. And it's right now, it's slated to start in 2031, but it's probably gonna get moved up. They're starting the acquisition process right now. Yeah. My guess is it's gonna be more like 2029.

But it's funded, and they're moving on it. So this is a road project that we're we're trying to get added in for this this year during the summer is resurfacing Pioneer. So, basically, replacing the asphalt. We're not gonna be tearing up the base, just the asphalt. We are gonna be adding some storm drain and sidewalk connection, the curb and gutter in a few areas, but it's mostly an asphalt replacement project.

Which On Pioneer. Oh, no. It's

That's a 4th Street. Yeah. You're jump. I jumped in. Sorry. It's coming. So another project for this year is the hundred and forty six minute man intersection with Highland. And this is just gonna be adding another left hand turn lane. So this is the Maverick. This is going northbound. We're gonna add another left turn lane here, so we have dual lefts to hopefully get those trucks through there. It's it's really bad, and it hasn't been for a while. Yeah. That was refunded with the

gravel tax funds. Good. Start collecting. So will that be widened? The road to widen in order to accommodate that?

Yes. There will be some widen. Right now, the idea that asphalting gets out right here, and we're gonna push it out through right there.

Will there be space for people who wanna turn right? Have, like, a stacking?

Right right now, it's combined through right, and that's what it's gonna be when we're we're just adding the one on you. So that's really not the problem. The problem is the left turn. So

So it's people it's trucks coming out of Geneva Yeah. Trying to get on

the highway going south. Will there be a dual right down to the on ramp? Or No. Because some of the trucks go north and some of them go south. That's good. Thank you. So it just depends on where the projects are really that they're going to. So it there could be more going north and more are gonna wanna be in that right left turn lane.

Or straight to the point too.

Yeah. Right. Underneath. Yeah. So we're also gonna be doing some improvements on 700 West by adding sidewalk, curb, and gutter in in those sections on the right of the screen.

This will complete sidewalk. So we'll have sidewalk from a Hundred And 14th to a Hundred And 23rd all along the west side. The reason that we're putting curb and guttering is for two reasons. One, the crescent West Crescent Irrigation Company has irrigation pipes on both sides of the road, and they're shallow. And the curb and gutter allows us to put that sidewalk into a higher elevation, and it also helps with drainage.

So this is really not a huge project. But based on the feedback that we've received from the council, it's our understanding that this is what you want to do with the funding that has been appropriated for the 7 R West project.

So there will be sidewalk all the way along

the road.

I think that's

great. There will be sidewalk on the west side. On the one side. On the west side.

And the other side will stay more natural, like, some of

them left. Wherever there is sidewalk on the east side too, but we're not Could There's other conflicts and issues with that side. So we picked the west. It's it's just simpler and less costly. So assuming that this meets the needs, then there would be some that funding left over in the project.

This is not gonna take all of the funding, for sure, not by a long shot. Also this year, this is a connection of 134 South. There's just a couple of pavement sections that are missing. We're dividing this up into two phases. We're not gonna be addressing the drainage issues with this first phase because it's just more difficult to address this quickly.

We actually need a detention basin, a regional detention basin in the area that we we need to acquire property for. And, of course, we need to figure out where it needs to go. So we're just gonna add some asphalt to be able to open the road, which we see and you can disagree, but we see that as kind of an advantage because because it's not gonna be as expansive as what our normal project would be. We're just kinda adding some asphalt and allowing traffic to

go through. Quietly opening. Yeah.

I did hear from one neighbor. I think I sent her on to you who was concerned about it being a throughway for high schoolers. Yeah. But it's a very minor

And it's interesting because she doesn't even live on this road, but she's concerned for her neighbors. Because right now they cut through her neighborhood, which they'll stop doing that and choose this one. So I don't know. I mean, it's nice that people are that concerned.

Yes. Neighbors. Right? Very invested. Yes.

When are you projecting that you'll do this? This year.

So my standard answer for projects is sometime between June and November. Mhmm. K.

June. That's There's just a lot factors that

I mean, we're we're still on the design of a lot of these. And so

Well, I'll get a lot of questions about this one. Yeah.

I knocked a lot of doors on a hundred and thirty eighth and off of a hundred and thirty eighth, and I had multiple people say, when are you gonna when are they tell the city they need to open up a hundred and thirty four. And that was when whatever was closed.

38th was closed.

It was when no. I'm the a hundred and thirty second. I was knocking doors on a Hundred And 32nd. The one with the junior highs on. And those people were like, tell them to open up a Hundred And 34th. Captain Tony did it. Yeah.

I'm gonna go

back and be like, I think you're welcome. I'm very powerful.

So from an engineering standpoint and from an emergency response, we've always wanted this connection. It's just it hasn't been a popular thing amongst, we'll say, council members. So Well,

it's been we've had we purchased this property with it in exchange

for It should be done. A lot that deal. It should be done. But we don't always do what should be done. It's great. Mostly, what should be done. Timing is everything. On our sidewalk gap projects this year, this is the first one. We may have another one to add, but right now so this is Manfield Way. This is just east of the the elementary Drummer Elementary.

And right now, there is not a sidewalk on that North Side of Mannville. I don't know if you all know where this is at, but so we're just gonna we already have the right of way. We're just gonna add sidewalk in there to make that connection. So pretty simple. This is City Hall.

This the council approved this budget, and I think last council meeting to expand just the dirt. So this if you ever try to park here on Tuesdays and Thursdays, it's it can be very difficult. So this is a this has been talked about for many years, and so we're just finally planning on doing it. Up in Suncrest, we have a detention base, and it's actually over here on the right in that area that's not functioning very well, and it's causing erosion problems. So we're gonna actually disconnect the pipe that goes into that.

Mhmm. We're gonna disconnect this into our storm drain system that we have there, which goes to the regional pond up there in Hidden Canyon Estates area. So that will be a a beneficial project to the downstream, especially in the open space corridors and stuff that so we can eliminate that erosion. That water eventually gets down in the highland, so they're appreciative of this also. Up in Suncrest, one of our major concerns is our PRVs.

PRVs are pressure reducing valves. We I talked about that 400 PSI is what we have at the pump station. Well, that that would blow our homes up if we have that kind of pressure in our homes. So we have to have these pressure reducing valves, and that's what it looks like schematically, just in case you're curious. And so we have three of those on Suncrest right now, and we're gonna eliminate one of these and then replace these two.

And a couple years ago, we had one go out, and luckily, there was only one property that was below that, which was the Hunt Residence, which is under construction now. But even under an emergency contract, it took us almost a year to design, manufacture, and replace that PRV. So this is a proactive measure that we're taking because these valves, if they go out, you it's just like the PRVs that you may have probably have in your home. So when they go out, you could get really high pressures, or you could get really low pressures just depending on where that valve gets stuck. So this this is definitely needed.

These everything up in Suncrest just has high corrosion. The if if you look at the guardrail, you look at everything up there, even the new stuff that we put in, it corrodes fairly quickly compared to other parts of the city. So this this is definitely needed, and it's gonna bring a lot of relief to me to know that this is done. So And then the big project for next year, we're getting into next year now, is Long Peak Parkway. This is from one twenty six fifty to 123rd South.

We're taking out that sharp corner, putting in a curve and widening that road. So this this is definitely needed. It's been needed for a long time. Very expensive project, especially because of the property acquisitions on this. It's just tremendously expensive. I think we're around 12,000,000 now just for that stretch of road, which is ridiculous. It's that's just crazy. This is a federally funded project. So the city, even though we're gonna pay quite a bit, it's now nowhere near the 12,000,000. But Buy America.

Buy America. It and Davis Bacon. And, I mean, the list is it's extensive. So if if this was a city project, we could probably do this for more, like, around 6,000,000. That's the kind of difference that making it federally funded. It literally makes that kind of a difference.

So how much of the 12,000,000 will we be paying?

That's a good question. I don't have the answer for that. I I think it's

A lot less than 6,000,000 if

we did it ourselves. Yeah. Last Last fall's pulse could gonna go go up, up, I I guess. Guess. Probably.

It depends on how short this little excursion is. 700 East and our 14 South, this is a joint project that we are doing with Sandy City. They've designed it. They've done the environmental. This is another federally funded project. We're going to manage the project. Draper City is. Most of the work is being done on the Draper City side. Side. The the purpose of this is to add dual left turns in the north I mean, in the east and in the west direction. Sorry. I

never felt there was a need for double turn there. Is it

There is at certain times of the day. It's pretty bad. Is that right?

Mhmm. Yeah. I go down seven. Yeah. Like, 05:00, it's backed up. Yeah. And in the mornings, it's fresh everything.

We're not paying a lot for this. It's not just a huge project. I think our our farm is, like, a 100 and thirty five thousand hours.

Okay. It's 7th East of not on a it's not a Hundred I was thinking Hundred And 14th South.

Yeah. This is a Hundred And 14th South and 7th East.

But it'll be seventh East double turn lanes in

No. Double turn lanes on our fourteenth. Yeah. In the east direction, not the western. It's gonna expand Hundred And 14th Yeah. In the width. So and it's mostly expanding through the. Any questions about that one? That's next year. And another big one for next year, we're safe, all our big ones for next year Mhmm.

Is 4th Street from Pioneer 232nd South. This is another federally funded project, and it's gonna be a big one. It's there's gonna be I'm guessing a lot of discussion amongst residents about this one probably with you. Lot of people like it, and a lot of people don't like it. So We

need to move the parade.

We are gonna for not this year. But Twenty seventh? Yeah. Twenty seventh. But big projects done, and that's huge for the city.

So that's it. Any questions or comments?

I have a question on that. This this storm drain up on 17 piece in that property that will the ground just be level Yeah. Then so it's pretty much hidden. You won't necessarily even know it's you won't even know it's there.

No. It'll be in the Park Shurp. It's in a big Park Shurp. So

Can't feel it. But that did impact where we could put put access out of that neighborhood too. Right?

Yeah. And it's out of that. So we we work in fact, the developer's engineer designed it, so it's

Alright. What do we have next?

Jump go, Brett. Brett.

Get out

of start.

Toss this guy behind you.

I'll try and go quick. I know we've got a big agenda. Just to give you an update again on some of the projects department's been working on. We are in our closed quarter of the year. We have that zone change in.

Trying to go fairly quick just to remind you on probably the biggest one that we just completed is behind the parks and rec building. We built a new storage area and the open space garage, which has been great. It's a more room to store Ones we've been working on, the biggest one right now is Jensen Farm Phase 3. One and two are done. If you haven't been out there in a little while, you'll see quite a bit.

The whole athletic field, that whole soccer field is shaped and ready to go. It's been winter, so we're limited on things we can do, but it hasn't really been winter. So we've got more than expected, so I think we'll be done with this whole probably by May or June, which will be great. The restroom's already in. The shed's already in. Getting ready for retaining walls. Seems a little more concrete. So this will be a great. The bridge expansion for Porter Rockwell Trail coming along nicely. We had a little delay.

Do you remember last time we decided to incorporate two parcels that UK wanted us to the north that goes to Deer Hollow in the South that goes to Bangerter Crossing. So they're evaluating that. That's where we're taking a little bit more time. But other than that, we're ready to go, and we should be having a bridge this summer or a trail across the bridge this summer to connect that whole thing. If you have any questions, Paul or not, I'm just gonna hurry through. This one's very minor. It's just the you see the picture on the right. There's the trail connection right through there. It's donated by one of the residents to give us an easement. It's funded.

We've got the contractor. We met the contractor in February. They said they would start about three weeks from our preconstruction meeting, which would be about this week. They haven't started yet, but I'd expect it to be coming anytime. It should be a fairly quick project once we get on. Should have that done this spring. Brown, I know we've had some discussions. This one, we've been working on in house, and I know some of you had a lot of comments from this in the past about combining these. So this will be a great project to combine Sunrise And Inauguration Parks into one nice park, so there's access from both neighborhoods. We got rid of all the the junk trees or Siberia now.

Brushing all those. We've flattened that grade a bit, so we're gonna be be doing some irrigation, putting the slab back in, lots of money to do a smaller playground piece, but really just make that a a nice big part for that West Side. This one is one that they should be starting soon. That is greatly needed. Every time we have a rainstorm, I get nervous.

That bridge is gonna fall in. You see the one on the right? It's it's what it will look fairly similar to. This will cross the the big drainage span that keeps getting wider on the final shoreline trail. It's gonna be an interesting beat to get the bridge out there. He says he get available. He said he can do it. So we're ready to go on that one. So I'm not gonna spend a lot of time on it. Don't know. It's had a lot of movement, but it's just that little piece that we approved last time that connector out of the Woods Hollow helped that. There's not so much congestion. This one, we're excited about. Rick and the guys are gonna cut in house.

We've got a lot of

social trails up there anyway, so it gets a lot of use. Actually, we met Greg and I was with Tracy last week about the Red Rock area and some things we need to do with some of the climbing and the the handholds. But this new trail will really help the area and get people up to some of the climbing area, and that will have done this spring. Optune, We haven't done much, so it's still in the works.

And just a few that we've mentioned, but

just wanna show you real quick. We've talked about these. I know. He was really high to get these done. You'll see these are these are requested in this future budget funding year in our CIP request.

We're vertical and

lead tape meet. Those are both fast downhill bike traffic trails where they meet, and there's a dangerous intersection. So just have a flyover similar to this one that we had did so that they can both always continuously go without fear of getting somebody somebody hurt. And then the same thing, this is a definite flyover. We I did the same thing where we have the same issue with two of our popular trails, Maple Hollow and Hans. We'd have to reroute a little little bit of Maple Hollow, which is the worst part anyway if you've ever done that trail. So it come out a little bit better, but, again, have this flyover, one trail under, one trail over. I'm fairly certain,

Alright. Thanks, council. We will be brief tonight. I just wanted to

give you an update on the progress that was made

by our appeals crew over the last season and really talked about the grant money that's been coming in through that program and how it's being used to enhance the mitigation efforts in the city and what is planned moving forward. So I've got Parker. I was gonna call him Flavio, but he pulled it up, so I can't even call him Flavio tonight to who's our field time full time fuels crew supervisor who's gonna walk through these few slides for

you and then see if

you have any questions. So,

Parker, just give that a quick when you're ready to advance on the next one.

Yeah. So this year, just like last year, we employed six seasonal crew members. That's a seven person crew, including myself.

I'll I'll

drag it. K. So just to give you an overview of the projects we completed, here's kind of a map. This includes all these little polygons, the orange and the pink. Those are projects we've done over the last three years, but I'll kinda point them out as we go through. So Rocky Knoll, that one's actually not on the map, but this was a small project that we did.

It took a lot of

man hours. But this project, we helped the resident avoid having their insurance dropped in. So there was a wildfire threat next to their home. We addressed it, and that saved them from losing their insurance. Maple Hollow, that's this one here.

That's just a project that we finished up from last year. And then the Mike roadside thinning, that was a pretty significant project. If you guys have seen along Mike Weir, we did quite a bit of thinning. And the roadside thinning is a mitigation strategy that's really effective, and I'll show you later on in the presentation how that was proven effective this year. Anyways, the biggest project that we did was this one here, the Mercer Hollow fuel break.

It's approximately 35 acres, and it's going to serve as a tactical like, a strategical advantage point for preventing wildfire spread if we were to have a wildfire start on the East Side Of Suncrest. I'll kinda go through that a little bit more. And then Upper Hog Hollow, that's just up in here. We had some leftover time after completing the Mercer Hollow fuel break, and we're able to do some thinning around the homes. So here's a bigger map of that Maple Hollow fuel brake.

You can see there's the yellow sections. Most of that yellow so the yellow and the orange is the fuel brake. It extends pretty much from Suncrest Drive, the lower portion of Suncrest Drive, all the way up to the Peak View Trailhead. It's approximately two miles long by a hundred hundred, 120 feet wide. The orange area was done with, like, chainsaws.

It's a little bit steeper down in Hog Hollow. The yellow was completed with our skid steer that has a mulching head on it. But to note with this fuel break, there's these green kinda access points is what they are, these green indicators. So the fuel break will have six different access points where our fire resources, engines, whatnot will be able to access the fuel break. Majority of the fuel break break is drivable, so that's huge.

You know, if were to hit a fire anywhere down here, this fuel break will serve to protect the entire community of Suncrest as well as the outdoor recreational trails that we have. This project was funded if you wanna go back. That's right. Yeah. Just really quick. The project was funded through a grant that we got in last year. It was a $120,000. It supported the employment of

the crew.

And, yeah, we were able to burn some tiles down in Hog Hollow too. So

And then what you Go ahead, friend. Go ahead. I was

just gonna say when there was that really scary fire in Lehi Mhmm. Coming

up and

not part of the problem was we couldn't get to it.

So that's kind

of the plan. My big picture is to put in these fuel breaks, improve access, and egress for firefighting resources. Here's some pictures. So this is kind of the beginning phases of the project, and then middle phase, of course, burning out those piles, kind of the end result. Yeah. So,

Parker, will you will you continue to, like, mow that down to keep Yep. Trimmed up, which will be a lot pretty easy to maintain.

Yeah. Right? Exactly. That's the advantage with these fuel breaks. They're super advantageous for a stopping fire, and they're easy to maintain. So very effective. So part of every year, have a participation commitment that we have to meet with the state. It's part of our cooperative agreement. Much that means we agree to do mitigation work, prevention work, or preparedness work and expend an x amount of dollars, and then the state will help us cover the cost of any significant wildfires in our city if we delegate those to them. So for example, the Suncrest fire, that was one of those incidents.

The state covered the cost of that fire because we have this agreement. So for this last year, our agreement was $55,000. We exceeded that commitment by $37,000. Really, we exceeded it by a lot more. But since we had that $120,000 of grant funding, that couldn't go towards this amount.

But we exceeded it and which lowered this year's agreement for only $21,000, which is huge. We secured another additional $10,000 of grant funding through the Ready Set Go grant. We use that to purchase equipment and PPE. This is a dozer blade that we can attach to our skid steer that was purchased with this grant, and that'll be utilized to help improve access and egress. And then one of our crew members, Josh, he was able to promote and go through the fire academy. So now we have another full time firefighter.

So one of my most

proud moments of the season was when a fire ignited off of Mike Weir Drive. There was a car fire, and, thankfully, we had done some thinning along Mike Weir. And as you can see, like, the fire stayed very minimal. It's not climbing up in the trees

because we've been in those trees.

Very minimal fire behavior, slow creeping, which allow the firefighters to get there and have an easy fire to put out. You know? Minimal spread. And right up above this fire, you know, on top of the hill, there's homes. So there's very high potential for this fire to move fast. But thanks to the work we did, it helped prevent that fire from spreading. And then there was numerous occasions. You can see here before and after some of the work that we've done. But on numerous occasions, we helped homeowners, you know, prevent from losing their insurance coverage, prevent insurance cancellations. And then these were some piles down in Ridgewood neighborhood that we were able to burn last February.

There's approximately 54 slash piles that we burned out. And then we supported engine staffing and deployment on five national wildfire incidents. The biggest one was the Palisades Fire last January, and then the Forsyth Fire down in Saint George, Geartree Fire, Monroe Canyon, and Garnett Fire. And then the fuels crew assisted with multiple brushfires within Draper City, which is a big benefit of having the fuels crew because can relieve the on duty crews so they can get back in service and respond to other emergencies. And I'm sure as you guys have seen, we installed fire danger rating signs.

Those are just an effective way that we can aid with prevention and wildfire awareness. And then, yeah, we had several opportunities to strengthen partnerships and collaborate with other departments, whatnot on our projects. We had opportunities to go assist the forest service with their pile burns. They came and assisted us with a lot of the pile burns that were done in near Peak View. Something I really wanna focus on, especially moving into the following seasons, this season, are community chipper days.

We've been able to have chipper days the last three or four years, but it's been pretty on a pretty small scale. This last year, we coordinated two chipper events, and my guess my guesstimate was that there was ninety hours of community participation. Those hours can go towards our cooperative agreement, our tracking documenting, so those are really helpful in meeting our our commitment. But I just wanna note kinda what I have here that chipper events are an effective way to reduce wildfire risk in Draper because they educate the residents while empower them to take an active role in maintaining defensible space, being proactive. And the more that we can get the homeowners on board being proactive, the larger mitigation footprint we can make.

Because we can only do so much as a six person fuels group. But when we get the community on board, it's just way more effective. So moving into this next season, this season, that's part of the enhancement plan. It's to really implement a robust and consistent shipper program. So we were able to obtain another grant for this year of $200,000, which we're utilizing to purchase a chipper and a cash truck, which will be utilized for these chipping days.

So, yeah, we've identified some areas. My plan is to getting to collaborate with the communications department to send out these notifications, promote the chipper events, and really how we have our new wildland urban interface area be able to target all of those homes that have extreme wildfire threat. And then, yeah, this will just enhance our ability to maintain Firewise USA recognition. The benefit of having this recognition is just that residents I mean, sometimes there is a financial benefit, but, really, the biggest recognition is just showing that we are proactive, that we're engaging with the community, and everybody's taking part to mitigate the risk of wildfires in that area. So any questions or comments?

I got a lot of positive feedback about the chipper days in Suncrest. People are very grateful for that.

Yeah. It'll be a great program for us to really be able to enhance this year with our own equipment. Again, Parks has has a chipper, but they're utilizing that themselves heavily as they maintain their trail during the summertime. The chipper that Parker used this year was actually borrowed from Forestry Fire State Lands. Correct? So we borrowed theirs to not impact that. But this grant that we've been able to secure is going to, again, give that equipment to us to have full time, and we'll really be able to grow that program and get more community participation in that, making them more aware and having them help us to mitigate that.

Well, I think they're gonna be more invested too because of that state law where they're all in that high risk Yeah. Area, and they're losing their insurance.

So does that work where the resident can trim out their own brush or whatever and just they bring it to the street, and then you

do tip-in. Yep.

And does that help them somehow when they're trying to negotiate on their insurance? Absolutely. It in this way?

Absolutely. It does. The goal I mean, again, as you just mentioned, there's the high risk way map that that got published in December. Those are the homes, and they're and there's there are some. There's not a significant amount in the city that fall within that.

Those are the ones that will have to have be required to have the assessment and and a potential fee on those. And then they will be able to, again, based on that assessment, do mitigation efforts to help reduce what that fee is. Our goal is to be way ahead of the curve, not only in those areas, but in that whole area that's designated as our WUI area to help people understand what things they can do to on their own property because that is their responsibility. We'll come in and we'll help give them the pointers of the areas they can mitigate, and then obviously be able to do some shipping for them to be able to use that mulch and put it back down on their ground for their own sustainability.

Do you know who's doing that assessment?

Right now, it is that HB 48 that was passed last year require pushes that responsibility to the counties. So it's up to the some of the county to coordinate who's going to do that. At this point, we have not heard from them what their plan is to actually get those those folks out and trained to in order to do that. In the meantime, we're not going to obviously take that responsibility on to do it for them, but we will have our people trained to be able to do that same assessment and, again, be ahead of the curve so that by the time somebody does get to them to do that, hopefully, we've already walked them through a mitigation pathway, and and they're in good shape moving into that. That's great. Yep.

That's Parker, that would be great to communicate because we have a lot

of concerns.

We're scheduling that open house Yeah. To talk about

those debts.

Yeah. Do you think the county's gonna push that responsibility on, do you know?

Well, they they really they will try. They will try. Again, without it's a significant cost, right, to to be able to do that. So as Mike and I have talked, you know, our our goal is to to focus on our residents, do what we can to help our residents, but not take that responsibility on ourselves without any funding or something that that helps us meet that because it does come at a at a cost.

Did the county get funding? No. Does the county have personnel?

No. No. Oh. You

can see where this is headed. I see.

Speaking of the county, the golf course is in the the league map. And what kind of relationship do you have with the county? You Are guys in charge of that land? Are they supposed to or is it

Well, because it's county land, it will be their responsibility. We'll have to obviously work with them in any city property that are busts up to that and and work on a plan that's that's with them and cohesive. They're depending on where h b forty one finishes up in this legislative session, there may be a few changes to to that WUI map based on some language that's in there. 20%. What the what forty one contemplates is that our WUI map can't include anything that's not of a on the smooth scoring structure of a five or higher in risk.

Right now, basically, that line between four and five is right through the middle of the golf course. So we'll have to work with forestry fire and state lands depending on how h b 41 finishes up and either get them to agree that it should be moved down to where we currently have it or if we have to maybe pull that back a little bit based on that language. But that being said, it's still going to be surrounded by area that's that's in that five score, and we will definitely have to work with them to do a mitigation plan for that area.

Thank you.

Thanks, gentlemen. Thank you. Awesome.

Close. Alright. We need a close

a a motion for a close meeting.

Real estate acquisition or No.

Because Couldn't develop delegated.

Is there a motion to close?

So moved.

Motion by Brynn. Second. Second by Tasha.

Brynn, how do

you vote? Yes. Tasha? Yes. Fred?

Yes. Catherine?

Yes. Alright.

We have unanimous

Alright. Welcome to our city council meeting this evening. Appreciate sorry we're a little bit late. We're ready to get underway. I've called the meeting to order our first order of businesses, our normal pledge of allegiance by our Parks and Rec director, Rick Red Ogden.

Go ahead, sir. Thank you, Rhett. Our next item is an opportunity for general public comment. And it looks like we have if you're here for we have one public hearing, which is five a. It's ordinance 17 o six and seventeen o seven.

Is there anybody here for that particular ordinance? Alright. I have two I looks like I have two comments for public comment. And I'll scroll over our rules with you really quick. You can see the clock to my right. Our rules are when you come up to the podium, I'll call your name and you can make our make your public comment. Give us your name and address if you would. That'll start the timer. It has an obnoxious buzzer. You can take the whole time if you need to, but when it your time's up, it'll be up. We're fair. We cut everyone off at three minutes. So that's how we work. It's also an opportunity to make a comment to the council, not necessarily a question and answer period. Council might address your concerns later when they talk amongst themselves, but we're here to listen. So I'm going to start with Mike Lund. Mike, come on up, give us your name and address.

Mike Lund, 652 Webb Circle. Just come to ask for some help. I live next to Galena Park. My property borders the south property line along the park, most of it. I have two acres there. I've lived there for twenty two years, and I fought this for twenty years. And I've asked people I mean, they have planes and stuff, the rocket launchers are more of a severe problem. I have horses, and this landed right where I feed them every morning. And I found this Sunday. And I've talked to the policemen over the years.

I've gone and talked to people, and I get varied responses of FU to we'll move. We'll go someplace else. And I've talked to the policeman. They say we can't enforce stopping them because there's no ordinance. It's not posted or anything else. Now I know from my own personal experience, there's places in the valley where you can do rockets and planes and all that kind of stuff. But I would just hopefully you guys can help me out by because I've had I found these on the roof of my barn. I found them on top of my trailer. I found them on my property probably in the twenty years, probably forty, fifty times. And I'm just I don't want to have interactions with people in the park and have it turn out bad.

The police are held because there's no law. But this is dangerous because this tip, usually they have a parachute. This one didn't have one and this tip is weighted with clay or something hard. So if that hit and hit the car, which I have back there, or

one of

my horses, it's not going to be a good thing. So you guys can talk about it and see if we could do something about that would be really helpful. Any questions? Do you want roll

Thank you. You. Okay. Bye. All right, next I have Michelle Polish. Did I say that right?

Okay, my name is Michelle Polish. I live at 122249 South Placer Street here in Draper. And I want you to know that I don't know if you already voted on it, but I just really kind of want to make a comment and then ask you for support of something. But I'm going to say it because of how much I love Draper. So the organization I work with, Americans for Prosperity, we're doing a huge America two fifty event.

It is absolutely 100% not a political event. We want it to be fun, engaging, family oriented. And we had gotten the Sandy Amphitheater, the Okay that we had. We were bringing in a big country singer with lots of entertainment. And I said, no way. We have to have it at Draper Amphitheater if we do. It's so much better. We want to do a drone show. And this would be free. We would pay for everything, all cost incurred.

So our city would reap the benefits of that, and I wanted it so bad. So I know that you guys have to vote on it and review the agenda. So if you have any questions, I know Kevin Green, our state director, has sent the agenda for you guys, and if you have any questions. But I just I don't want Sandy to get it. I want Draper to get it. So if you guys can review that and if you have any questions about that definitely or suggestions, you know, I would love to bring the business here. And that's all.

Thank you. Is there anyone else who would like to make a general public comment? I know it seems a little crazy that no one else is in the room, but I'm asking for the record. Alright, unless you, young lady, would you like to come up? Are you dying to make a comment? Okay. Alright. Don't say you didn't have your chance. When you're 18, you can say I could have made a comment in city council meeting. Alright. Thank you. Alright. We'll close public comment and go item number four, which is item number four c is approval of resolution. Is that where I'm at? Yeah.

Is that right? Right. Four a is approval of the meeting minutes for the 02/10/2026 City Council retreat. Item four b approval of resolution twenty six twelve, the resolution certifying authorized individuals to access or transact business with the state Utah public treasurers investment funds and to execute necessary forms in connection with such changes on behalf of Draper City. And item four c, the final consent item is approval of resolution twenty six thirteen, a resolution approving and authorizing the execution of a vote center agreement between Draper City and Salt Lake County for the twenty twenty six elections.

Mister mayor, I'd like to make a motion

to approve the consent calendar.

Alright. I have a motion by miss Lowry to in to improve the consent calendar. Is there a second?

Second.

Second by miss Dallas. Is there is there any further discussion? Tasha, how do you vote?

Yes.

Catherine?

Yes.

Fred? Yes.

Bren?

Yes.

All right, those items are approved unanimously four to zero. That takes us to item number five, which is our only item for public hearing on the agenda. It's item five a public hearing ordinance seventeen oh six seventeen oh seven an ordinance amending the official land use map and the official zoning map at Draper City for approximately 0.25 acres to remove the property from both land use map and zoning map. The property is located approximately 1600199 South 3300 East and is the subject of municipal boundary at line adjustment between Draper City and Highland City known as the city initiated Highland boundary adjustment land use map and zoning map. We'll have a staff report by Mr. Todd Draper. Go ahead, sir.

All right. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This will be quick. This is, as you mentioned, just related to the boundary adjustment with Highland City that recently went through. We are just looking at this time to remove from our maps the land use category and the zoning from that property. So this is the general area of where that is. And then you can just see the subject property here from the aerial. It is currently in the hillside low residential density land use and then in a five zoning and in the sensitive hillside overlay zone. So we're just looking to remove it from both of those.

This will be in, Highland City. This is an approximate site photo. It's not gonna walk all the way out there, so I've got a little arrow to kind of approximate it there for you. The Planning Commission did vote unanimously to forward positive recommendations for both land use map and the zoning map changes. And if there are any other questions, I'm happy to answer them.

Any questions for mister Draper? Alright. Hearing none. Thank you, mister Draper. This is a public hearing. Ordinance 17 o six and seventeen o seven. Is there anyone from the public that would like to address the council on this item? Alright. Seeing no public comment, I'll close the public comment period. Bring it back to the council.

Mister Mayor, I'd like to make a motion.

Motion by miss Lowry. Go ahead.

Approve ordinances 17 o six and seventeen o seven.

Motions to approve. Is there a second?

I'll second.

Second by Brenz. Or any further discussion? Seeing none, Tasha, how do vote?

Yes.

Brenz?

Yes.

Catherine? Yes.

Fred?

Yes. It was approved unanimously. Four to zero. That takes us to item six, but if you would like a council manager discussion in between that, I could do a legislative update. So whoever has any items Bren, do you have one?

Yeah. I do. I met the tree committee met this morning, and so we discussed some of the things we talked about at our last council meeting about updating their rules and their duties. And they were very open to that. One of them suggested adding landscaping duties and responsibilities to them.

So I think that'd be great if we went forward with those changes. And they also would like to maybe meet with me just one on one. And maybe Mr. Barker can meet with me or Jen or somebody just to kind of go, I think they want to go through point by point and just see if it's relevant to what they're doing, if they would like to do something more like focusing on education, those kinds of things.

Awesome, anyone else?

I've got something over here. I have something. So Historic Preservation Commission has been working on a historic plaque for the Widowmaker Trail. They've been talking to Salt Lake County to install that plaque on the, county property at the Flight Park, right where the the trail the historic trail is. So we've with that discussion, we have an interlocal agreement with the county.

So I want to get with you guys, make sure that you're okay with the city signing signing an agreement with the county. So this is what the plaque will look like. So the the agreement would require would allow the city to install the plaque on the county's Flight Park property. We would have to maintain it and we would have to pay for the installation. I do think it'd be a really great plaque to have up there. It's a significant historic event that used to take place in Draper.

I I think it's great. There's

that was one wild party.

So on the is this gonna be on the count piece or on Draper piece?

It it'll be on the in the flight park on the Salt Lake County's Park, and that's because that's where it used to take place.

So why are we need if do they need our approval to put a plaque there if it's their part?

We need we need well hit Draper's historic preservation commission is doing the plaque so we need their approval to put the plaque on their property.

I know I'm biased but I know there is a lot of work that went into this so I'm very much supportive of getting this installed because I think it's a great way to remember what the mountain used to be used for.

It appears that Harley Davidson is the winner in the least 1,500 cc, six over the tops. Triumph comes in second and Honda was lagging. I think it's good. Are all of you in favor of said plaque?

Yeah.

Alright. There you go.

Great. Thanks.

Alright. Anyone else?

I'd I'd like your legislative update,

You want me to do that? Okay. So overall, from a league of cities and towns perspective, I don't know that it's been as bad of a session as typically we expected it would be. That's not to say that the league has not been in serious battle on four or five, well not four or five, a lot more than four or five, but some very key pieces of legislation that would have certainly disrupted all of our budgets, our elections, our land use. I guess I'll take that back.

It was a normal session in every regard. We get most of it. Now, it wasn't a session where land use was the main topic of attack. I think that comes next year when it's not an election year. So you're going to need to be vigilant with our representatives because I think the house for sure backstopped early that there weren't gonna be a lot of land use changes, specifically taking away land use authority and preemption.

So the main key topics, the homeless shelter one, I'll start with that one. If you aren't if you haven't followed it, if you have, there was initially a plan about a giant statewide campus. They're gonna bring the homeless all together in one spot, put everything, treatment, what have you all in one particular area. And then that sort of fell apart. There's a new homeless czar coming on after the session ends.

And so the way the way it got postured was that the way we have it now is all of the cities that are not shelter cities are going to have a 15% increase in payment requirement, a one time payment increase. So our fee will go up about, was it $20,000 Our

fee is about $16,000 and change a month currently. So we'll

be around 22,000 or $3,000 Somewhere close. So every city that's a non shelter city will be paying a fifteen percent one time bump. And that's going to really go to the shelter cities like West Valley, Midvale, South Salt Lake, and Salt Lake. All of those shelters are flexing right now in the winter that we aren't having, but still flexing. It puts about 400 more beds online.

And that was pure state preemption on cities. The current flexing plan was the state came in and said fire code be damned, everything be damned. This is how many people can fit in a shelter for the winter. So they've been doing it. Those cities, to their credit, and I'm thankful for them and bless them all, they would like to keep their shelters open and and continue to house that 400 person group that would otherwise be have no place to sleep if we don't do this program.

So the one time hit, the 15% will go in to help offset the cities like West Valley and all of them are paying this heavier cost and all of us don't have shelters in our city. So then we're going to work out the contribution going forward. Now that money comes directly out of our sales tax. We don't ever see it. So it's taken from us.

So it will be a hit to our overall budget a little bit, but it's going to hit everybody equally. It took a while to get to that language. Molly Wheeler, our Assistant Director, really did a fantastic job for the league. I mean really she did a tremendously, just fantastic work writing the code over for representative Ehleson finally to, in fact in the committee yesterday when some questions were asked he just said I'd like her to come up and answer these questions. So Molly's really done a good job driving.

This wasn't an assignment Molly wanted. I kind of feel bad for helping her get it, but nonetheless, she's excelled at it and done a good job for us. So we're going to pay 15% more, but those shelters are going to stay open all year. Then we're gonna work it out when the new homeless director figures out how we're gonna do it. I don't think the campus is necessarily dead. It's just dead this session. It may come come back around. So anyway, homelessness, property tax, which was really the big the big kinda hit that we're all worried about. If you'll remember, it started out with a 5% cap on everybody's butt our tax increase potential. It they even had a there was an iteration that required the voters to vote every single year to approve our budget.

So we would run an election every single year on our at least on our budget. Of course, that wouldn't be costly to us at all. That wouldn't hit our budget. I mean, there there was a lot of ideas that were, I don't know how else to say it, dumb, that were that were proposed in various bills that we're trying to sort of conglomerate into one. And then we have our our state our one of our state senators, Dan McKay, who sort of took the lead in the space with it.

He started out with a 5% cap, which would have been difficult. John figured out for us that if we had a 5% cap, we would have to raise property tax every single year and it would take us ten years to really get to zero. So that died in various discussions. And then it came out that the real problem that cities have is our fund balance is too high. And so the fund balance being high became the focal point of the last couple of weeks.

Now bear in mind, the state of Utah has a really high fund balance, billions of dollars. But what's good for said goose is not the same for the ganders of the cities. And, you know, frankly, the state can be hypocritical all at once because they have the king. So we were really stressed about wanting to take our fund balance down. And then it became not just take the fund balance down, it became take the interest that we earn on the fund balance and take that away from our budget.

So instead of putting that 1,800,000 a year back into our operational costs, that would get deducted off our property tax collection and punch a $1,800,000 hole right into our budget in addition to everything else inflation. Now I had a lot of discussions with the senators I'd know the best, Senator Cullimore, Senator McKay, about how that will be the Utah senator tax increase meeting that we have when we do it. And so we got around to and then and then it became a discussion about and then senator McKay said to us, well, you know, I need you to blow my body up over this interest thing. My my body needs to hear that we don't want the interest to be part of it. And so the league did its call to action and I'm proud of all of you because every one of you assisted in the blowing up thereof.

And it was a fine blowing up, might add. Senators were taking their texts that they got from you and sending them to Big Dan McKay to read. So there were lots of senators just screenshotting and sending over. And then, of course, that kind of irritated the good senator. He said, why don't you have to pull this up? I'm like, well, told us to. He literally told us to do it and we did it. So then we negotiated the interest off and came back to a fund balance on a sort of sliding scale. So bigger cities will be in five years, so it's a five year runway. In five years, the bigger cities will have to be 25% max fund balance.

We'll probably end up in the 28% range, but it will slide along. Littler cities get a higher balance because they have a smaller budget. So it's a five year implementation. We don't have to give the money back to the taxpayer. That was one of the other things that they talked about. And so that bill, that's where we're at with the fourth substitute of that bill. I don't know if that bill even passes in the Senate or not. It might not. But we've at least got agreement that that's the tax change. One astute member of the League Policy Committee asked the question at Monday's meeting, is this really a property tax bill or a fund balance bill?

Which was a astute question at the end of the day. And one might wonder how come the fund balance became such an interesting play. Anybody wondering why that became such an issue? Well, have a little insight if you're wondering. Perhaps the Bankers Association was interested in seeing some of the fund balances being held in local banks and credit unions as opposed to where they're held in the PTIF.

PTIF pays the higher interest, so we go where the interest is highest. So I've heard through a little birdie that that might have been the motivation. You never know where the angle is, but it's always one. But that's where it is now. Thank you for your diligent league call to action because it makes a huge difference. Next and last is the vote by mail changes. As you know, we have an excellent I'd like the record to reflect Mimi. We have an excellent vote by mail system. It's one of the best in the whole country. I enjoy it thoroughly.

I love driving up to that box and being able to put my ballot in at my leisure and and just enjoy voting in my elections. I think most of you would agree. The elections in Utah are secure. The audit showed one potential fraudulent voter and he didn't he he or she didn't even vote. But nonetheless, there was a big push.

You might imagine from the national perspective that vote by mail is really not great. But to get rid of vote by mail would be very expensive for the state because they would have to buy a lot of voting machines. Because we're hooked on the crack of vote by mail because it's cheap. Now you're looking for higher expensive drugs of more voting machines, so there's this balance. So in an effort to weasel us off of vote by mail but not have to buy all the new machines, they came up with this program of put two nice poll watchers at every box during the election period out there with their umbrellas or or the sunscreen, whichever depending on the year.

And that when you pull up to drop your ballot in the box, you would show these nice poll workers your driver's license and they would fill out a sheet and check you off of the list. Seems like a logical thing to do, right? It's really taking away vote by mail, but not really. The cheaper way to eliminate vote by mail.

Who would pay? I mean, is there

money

Excellent pay question. That would be coming from the cities. We would be paying for the poll workers. They were gonna add more boxes so we could buy more poll workers to make more people's more points to drop off the ballots to get your and that actually, at one point, a driver's license was not a sufficient form of ID. It was a passport that would be required or a birth certificate at the one of the earlier iterations. Look. I'm not kidding you. How do

we get murdered for people

to vote? Don't we want people to vote?

Well, it's all about the it's all about the voter participation, miss Lowry. You know? I want certain

people to vote.

Anyway, I was on my way up there today to give my 2¢ on that. And they called me off and said, we don't think you need to come. And then Justin texted me, it died in the senate committee. It is dead dead. It is not mostly dead like Princess Bride. It is all the way dead. So that one's over for this year. So you'll be able to vote normally. You know? There you go. And then there was a bill there were another bill that wanted to make municipal elections partisan. I did testify in that one. It was interesting to listen to the your to your point. The argument was if we make it partisan, we'll get more voter participation. And I was thinking to myself, I don't even know how that pencils.

But if you had a r or a d or an I or a u, what's what's the party your husband's in?

Oh, forward. Forward.

An f.

F. This might not be a

good letter to have

next to me.

If you had any of those letters by your name, it would make it a whole bit much better process. It'd be more transparent. Everybody would know it, love it, and it would achieve the great success of a democracy that we have yet achieved in our two hundred and fifty years. So that was the push. I testified against it. A couple other people did, and it died seven to three in the committee. So we're not doing partisan. And it was interesting to see some of the committee members said that they were getting texts from their constituents saying vote against this. And I thought, well, that's good. People were reaching out.

And then there was a a bill by representative Schallenberger as well to designate the Point Of The Mountain Flight Park as an airport, some type of official airport. I oppose that on our behalf because of our city, The Point, Lehigh And Clyde companies also opposed it. But it was really an effort to create an airport overlay that would have restricted that big building that burned down, the big apartment building that burned down last summer. The hang gliders don't like that building because it disrupts the flow of currents and causes people to crash and or can or whatever. So this bill was really an attempt to create this federal airport overlay or a state combined federal airport overlay to really restrict what could go around the point of the mountain.

That bill died as well. It died relatively hard. So I don't know what'll happen next, but

Mister Mary, is there a possibility, though, that there could be some type of regulation that could set a zoning that would limit that building height around there?

Certainly. The issue is that the building that burned down is getting rebuilt. It's already entitled, so it's going to go to its normal height. It was an interesting discussion. I went to the committee. It came out of the committee. It it died after the committee. It never got to the floor. It might have died in the speaker's office, but it it died along the way because it was I mean, I I told the representative, look, if you wanna protect the flight park, I don't think there's a lot of people that are opposed to that. I'm not opposed to it.

But let's just protect it in a direct way without with a zone that says this is what it is. So everybody knows and can come to the table. This was vague and would have created sort of the esoteric rules about no one really knew what it meant. So anyway, we may see that back in the future. Well, since it burned down, it was then again a clean slate was the term used. Cleaned off by the fire, I guess.

Doesn't make sense. But the area

is title, the grand

Right. But the representations were that it was now a clean slate and the the actual Correct. It was an incorrect representation. Yeah. So, anyway, I'm trying to think if there's anything else that I wanted to bring up.

Oh, transportation bill. Calvin, our representative, did an excellent job with his housing infrastructure sort of TIF bill. He's created, in some ways, he's sunsetted a number of these Fizzes, Hops, and all these different weird acronyms. I can't remember them all. But his bill sort of sunsetted a bunch of them and created a program where you can apply for a loan, for a low interest loan, to get infrastructure in your city to create housing.

So it's all for sale housing. So like take for example, Olympia Hills in Harriman, there's potentially 6,000 units there. The thing that's holding them up is a water tank and some roads and sewer and all the expensive stuff. So Calvin passed a bill to his credit, difficult hard one that creates a pathway forward for low cost infrastructure improvements that could open up housing. He did a fantastic job on that.

He also integrated something unique that the UTA re governance bill. I think it's been folded into a couple a different bill now. So UTA is gonna get restructured where the three trustees from the three counties are going to be eliminated. It'll go to a seven member commission similar to the transportation commission, and then it will have a general manager. So the seven commissioners will be the governing board and the current general manager or the general manager, whoever it is, will run UTA.

The good news about that is in Calvin's bill, he worked with Senator Harper to create another pot of money in the TTIF. I might be getting it wrong, but the TTIF where this pot of money will grow and it will actually be it's one of the first times in my career working with UTA or in politics where there's a fund now the state's going to have build up over time that can build new transit, which is fantastic. It's what we need. The Senate President, we met with him and he was like, look, I want to see faster trains. I want a train faster than 80 miles an hour. Frontrunner needs to be going 130 miles an hour. And he said in his office, we're not building another highway across the point of mountain. We're not widening it. We're not making it bigger. We gotta go to transit.

And so that's the motivation of the speaker and the senate president to create the new UTA structure. That bill hasn't gotten passed yet, but it's one of the issues is is there's a restriction on the seven member commission. Although it's it's not a paid commission, it's similar to what it was in the old days. You get up stipend and go, you know, mileage or whatever. It's no not a paid job.

But those seven members are are not allowed to be, elected officials under the current legislation. The league has suggested that that not that they'd be a 100% guaranteed elected local elected officials, but the league has suggested it would be good if there was the option of one of the governor, either the governor of the senate or the house, could appoint local elected officials that are that are, you know, would be part of the that could be could be on that commission. Don't have to be, but could be. The elected official prohibition was a prohibition to prevent legislators from being on the commission. But we've made the pitch that if you want local people or you want to open up the talent pool, the people that might maybe have someone really talented, selected person that could do it, this would be a way to do it.

So I don't know how that's going to come out. But I think it's going to we'll see. I mean, it's all getting dicey now because there's only three days left. And there was a big to do yesterday at the House or at the Senate. There was a Senate committee on the gas tax bill, the lowering of the gas tax.

As you know, we have a gas tax proposal that will lower our gasoline tax about $04 a gallon for a period of six months, one hundred and eighty days. But the speaker agreed to hold us harmless in cities so that because, you know, we get BNC road money out of gas tax. So, the very gasoline you're buying to drive on the very roads upon which you're using the tax to fix, they agreed, yes, we won't we'll hold the cities harmless. We'll make sure that you don't lose BNC road money. The $04 gets pulled out of some other UDOT operational fund so that it gets funneled back to the taxpayer at that 4¢ a gallon.

So do it while you can. But yesterday, in a senate committee, chairman of the committee and sponsor in the senate, Brady Brammer, had a committee of three himself, senator Fillmore and senator McKay. And he called the motion and senator Fillmore and McKay voted no, and the gas tax bill died in the senate committee. That created a substantial amount of dust up as I was told I didn't I wasn't privy to the actual dusting but I heard there was a lot of dusting that occurred with some discussion amongst the Senate and the House and that's created a bit of a logjam. Apparently today they weren't reading Senate bills into the House so I think there is some nefariousness afoot.

I don't know

how it all goes. Yeah, there's some you know, there's been press conferences and whatnot about it. And so I think it comes back. I think they'll find a way to bring it back because it's big to do. We almost went to war with Idaho over it. Well that was just a war in The Middle East. Indeed. Yeah it is interesting that the 4¢ a gallon is going to be thoroughly and completely wiped out by the Operation Epic Fury that is going to raise gas probably to a buck more. Anyway, I think that's everything. Is there anything else, Mike,

you can think of? Just the alcohol bill. Oh, I was unaware. Yeah. So the alcohol bill will allow cities to consider a proximity waiver for restaurants and hotels that may be within 300 feet of libraries, playgrounds,

or parks. Mostly fits the point, I would imagine.

Yeah. And actually, the point was designated as a local I can't remember what the term is. But basically, you've got well, it wouldn't apply to churches and schools. And so, there may be a pathway forward for cities to consider under certain circumstances waiving those proximity requirements? On the point bill,

we got Senator Stevenson to adjust the code so that the point only takes 25% of the property tax value. We get the other 75. And then I think they took our other changes on development agreement. So the point build turned out how we need it. So that's moving forward. I really think that's about it.

I have one other quick question about these rockets in the parks. Galena Park is a County Park. Correct?

I don't think so. So it's city. Flight Park.

I don't is that an ordinance that we wanna even look at?

It's already in our ordinance. They're already illegal. We've already kicked many of them out of that park.

So then where is he where is it being stated that the police can enforce that? I don't know.

I'm sure it's hard to catch.

Yeah. You'd have to catch

somebody from call to enforce. But it is in our ordinance that rockets are not allowed in any of the parks.

I don't think it specifically says rockets, but it does say explosives, which we've classified that as when people ask, we tell them, no. They're not allowed.

Maybe we should clarify it.

Maybe we're just gonna sign about public Jacobson's property?

We can do that.

I mean, a rocket's technically an explosion, but a controlled explosion. Not necessarily complete explosion, but a more funneled. I

just don't want him to feel it was totally ignored, his comment.

Sure. Let's make sure it is in our code clearly. It may not be. I don't know. I'm

It doesn't say

rockets. Are you all amicable to create one that says no rockets? All right. And then the other question was about the amphitheater. We rented the amphitheater once, if I remember, and it caused some grief for us. We stopped until we were ready to get a policy. And I don't know if I'm remembering that correctly or not. But I think whatever you want to do on the amphitheater, we typically don't rent it out. It's not something we do for a whole lot of reasons, mainly that we just haven't done it. We don't have a policy for renting it.

We probably need to put together, if you want to, a policy about how we would rent it and make sure we recover the actual cost of renting it. One of the problems for us is those costs are always more because of police and fire. They have to respond depending on what it is. We never really I don't think we have a mechanism in place to make sure we recover the actual cost of the rental. But it's not something we've done. We don't rent. We stopped renting it because we wanted to get it figured out. We haven't had a request until now to do it, but we don't have a firm policy. It would be my hope that we would do one of those before we make a decision on it, decide if we want to rent it. The easy policy is don't rent it.

The easier next harder policy is how much it costs and how we rent it out. Where are you all at on that? And I think the other thing you have to keep in mind, if you rent it, you have to rent it. You can't discriminate against content and message of who might rent it. You might like a group that rents it, but you might not like the next group that wants to. But you'll be in that situation. If you are renting it, you've to be fair and can't control the message or content of the message.

Yeah, that's a concern that I have.

I also have a concern that it could open the door to it just being used all the time and I'm not sure that it's actually, you know, it's in a neighborhood. So I think, you know, for smaller events, sure. But when you have these big events, if they were to happen more frequently, it would turn that area into an event center rather than just being used for an occasional production like over the summer, if that makes sense.

I think the city can do whatever event it wants. But the question is, can it be rented for any group to use for whatever reason they want to use it? I think this request we had today is obviously a great Samaritan two fifty. How do you beat the request? But the policy for us is are we renting it? If we are, how are going to do it? And that does open it up to

Can the city go in conjunction with a group to do an event like that?

We could, yeah.

Then

I A think the question is

city event? Yeah. We can always do a Yeah. City

And then if we have an outside group that would help us put it on sponsored by the city. That's why we're not renting it out. Similar to, like, you do the rodeo. We hire a contractor to do the rodeo.

But then the city's paying for it. They're talking about doing an event that they would be paying for.

Yeah, we'd have to sell tickets and do all that. Yeah, was just saying you're

paying overtime for police and fire and other services if you're going to do it that way.

I also think that, again, opens a can of worms of who do we partner with. If we partner with one organization, what are the parameters behind that which we don't have?

I think I am not opposed to us renting it out. Agree with what you're saying that we would need to have some sort of a policy. And I appreciate what Brynn's saying. It is in the neighborhood. And so if we do create a policy, think it should include a limit of how often there could be an event or it could be rented out.

And remember it is already very used, right? Mean, Brett's already using it for a bunch of shows.

Don't know, maybe you could get with your acts, we can see if there could be way the city could be the one putting it on. That's probably in the short term the most likely. And then at the same time we can decide formally how we want to do it. But I don't think we should rent at all without a policy and a clear amount and an amount that recovers our costs. It's a small place. It is in the neighborhood and I think the neighbors are accustomed to the number of shows we do because it's about the same. If it was a lot more, I think we'd hear from the neighbors. That's what I think. Else? Anybody else have anything else? Alright, is there a motion to adjourn? So moved. Alright. Motion by Tasha to adjourn. Is there a second?

I'll second.

Second by Brent. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Are there any opposed? Alright. Hearing none, we are adjourned.