Conservation Commission - Regular Meeting

Yes, the boss. I open the meeting and um... Mike, if you want to vote for Joe and um Gary, if you can vote for the empty seat.

The empty seat, okay.

And um... Sounds like a better approach. We have two DRC's, but no one comes to talk to us. Umdes, the first one is Pillsbury 44 and 36. They are working on a convertible and a remodeling to apartment complex. I'm not sure which pictures you want to see. You know... Yes, is this it?

It sounds like they're changing the parcel borders.

That was it. Well, didn't we have something like that? Yes. Laura Candy wrote us a letter. She said, sorry, no one is coming. This is what we do.

Yes, the letter seems to report the same number of rented houses and the same number of bought houses.

No, it's different. Let me take a look. Yes.

Almost 100 have moved. No, almost 100 have moved from houses to apartments. Yes. And this is, oh, okay, they called them houses. Yes, yes, this is a good way to show it. No, you have to come back to that if you do things there, Mike. That was a good way to show it. So, did you know that there used to be this rule? Those were the 250 houses. Houses. Houses, yes.

Houses to rent.

Okay, that's it. And these are the 30 bought apartments. Now they have taken this rule and have actually moved it like this. Okay, in tormented little crack here.

Is that where part of the wastewater is?

All those houses that are now rented apartments that are for sale. Okay. That's actually what they're trying to achieve here. And they mean individual buildings with apartments or... Yes, that's right. Yes, okay. So they're still individual buildings. Yes, now you can. And the only thing they've separated is that small piece of land. Or they're asking to separate the small piece of land where the gas station is.

Right.

Yes, yes, right.

And I don't know if you have seen in the packages of the diagrams what this subdivision was to be seen, but then with the residential units, so that you can see where the residential units are within that new area.

Right, right.

I think they stayed in the same place.

They stay in the same place, but it is difficult to determine without.

Yes, yes, if you go back to the one with all residential units on it.

Not that one. I think it's this one.

Yes, there. And they all share the clubhouse in the middle.

The swimming pool. And... They all have 310 with their estimate how many cars. About 400 or so. They all use the same access road. Right there.

So who's planting this net?

For Michael's traffic light.

With a traffic light? Who planned this? This is ridiculous. This is what I've been talking about all this time. Why don't they take into account what's going on and how they fit it all in? It just doesn't fit, as far as I can see. It doesn't matter that there's no traffic light if they're going to put one anyway.

Yes, I mean, this doesn't show it, but...

I thought they would also come through the back road.

I think there's going to be a tree. But no.

No entrance.

Yes, if you can see it at the top.

Who is planning this? The planning committee or the project developers. Or the project developers, but the planning committee will discuss it tomorrow evening, of course. Do you think this is the right way? Well... What?

Based on the letter Laura wrote us, they have made a business decision that they can make. More money is earned by selling apartments than by renting houses. So they increased the number of apartments at the expense of the houses. And I really don't see anything that would keep them from rebuilding all the houses into apartments in five years.

That was my prediction, that they would eventually rebuild them all into apartments.

Yes, of course.

Just like Feerich did. Ze begonnen als verhuur en toen konden ze geen geld meer verdienen. Ze moesten er appartementen van maken. Belachelijk, ik word er echt boos van. Maar het is een slimme zet van hun kant. Business-wise, but that's not really our problem. So, are they coming? There is already a road that the farm used in the past. Is that the small hill road they come from? The... Most will... Use this road, but Michael's hay is here. That's right, there is... A road there, yes. Yes, there is a very steep slope. It's here, it's steep. I wonder, because it literally leads you past De Vijver.

Yes, they use the road right next to the construction site of the pump house. Yes, I don't know.

But it looks like a T-split. And what was that then? No.

It's about 100 meters.

No, no, well yes, I didn't mean that. There is a roundabout here. A T-split would have been a roundabout.

I mean, a normal intersection would probably have been better, but...

I know for sure that the planning and technology department discussed this with them, so we don't think. Well, they just let them walk around in London Derry everywhere. That's just too much.

That's not what they promised. In the beginning it would be parks and, well, those two plans that the original 250 plus 60 showed were approved by the Planning Commission and they are now just working with it. Right, what has been done is to change the property structure. The problem I see is that, and as I have said more often, other small people talk about the point of having a association of homeowners is the responsibility. So, if you own a piece of land with 100, 300 or 250 rental homes on it, there is someone you can contact, right? There is someone who says, hey, there will be polluting substances found in the pond. I think it comes from your tenants and then you can probably take action. With the association of owners, it could be an administration consisting of three residents who try to manage, for example, 200 or more than 160 apartments. Let's call them apartments. That's a lot more difficult. How many apartments are there in the neighborhood?

137.

Yes, so this is 310.

There are five people in the administration.

But they don't all live in... Apartments.

Someone has to take care of the other side, the rental.

But my argument, or rather my concern, is that from the perspective of the municipality it is easier to maintain the construction regulations and the planning plans if you have to deal with one owner than with a maximum of 310. Yes, And I also look at it from the point of view of nature, what happens when problems arise. But.

Good, hey, there.

Of course there are other things too. And I don't know how the fire department agrees with this, but. Good, that is something we could give as a remark, it is important to have a functioning association of owners with so many apartments. So if things get in the way, if they break into the water like they do now. Yes, then we know who to talk to. As you say, it can't just be three random members who buy it by chance. It has to be better organized.

Because they don't have to stick to the rules for the protected natural area. because they fall under a transition rule. Indeed, such a subdivision could influence them.

Yes, I think so.

I think that... That would be useful. Right? Because it is not, even though it is considered a partial limit adjustment.

A partial limit adjustment is in the eyes of the law a subdivision. Okay.

So?

Yes.

That's a good question.

Yes, yes, yes, that is very applicable, I think. We have to ask whether the planologists agree that this is a insulation that contributes to the decisions of a protected natural area. I think it will only be applicable to the larger parcel on the east side, because that is still the existing parcel. Yes, they haven't done that. Well, unless they expand the existing parcel, it will no longer exist. So no, I think it would be applicable to everything.

So, do we want to say something about it? Presenting rules in the association of owners who...

A professional management company requires, and not just an association of homeowners.

Well, and most things of that scale will get a management company, yes. Yes, but that there is no obligation is not possible.

And then I think a third remark should be that, you know, that should make sure you're done, right? When I see you stop writing, oh, thank you.

Go.

The third remark would be that there may be something in the ... ... documents of the association of owners should be there. I think it is the documents of the apartment complex that prohibit further tiling of the remaining part of that parcel. No, the remaining houses.

Why would you do that?

Zodat ze niet allemaal één grote appartementenvereniging worden. Maar ik denk dat er... Redenen voor zijn.

Ik denk dat dat het uiteindelijke plan is. Hebben we het recht om dat te doen? Ja, ik denk dat... Ik het niet weet.

Want ik denk... Laten we het anders aanpakken. Stel de vraag, toen de planningscommissie dit plan voor 250 appartementenhuisjes goedkeurde, baseerde ze zich toen op... Implicit or explicit statements. That... That approval would increase the amount of affordable housing in Londonderry. And the reason I ask this is because it is much easier for people who... There is a reason why all young people rent instead of buying a house, because they cannot pay the rent. They cannot deposit the money in advance. So we had the opportunity here to house 250 families with an average income. We give that right, or that opportunity, to 100 families. Now, I don't know, I don't think that's a matter for the Nature Protection Commission. I know it. But it is the reason why I worry about the rules, From the VVE who applied the natural values. This will come to order in the administration tomorrow evening. Yes. Mike, how sure can we be that our comments will reach the board for their meeting tomorrow and that they are available? EHM, I will try to give it to Elise as soon as possible. EHM. I will do my best. Did she normally demand that the comments of employees should be submitted for a certain time before an agenda point is planned? I thought so. EHM, I didn't know this was on the agenda for tomorrow. According to the lawyer's letter, it is.

On the agenda?

Yes, okay.

Probably, that's why they're not here today. EHM. Ja, ik weet dat ik een e-mail heb gekregen waarin staat dat ze dingen voor een bepaalde datum terug willen hebben, maar dat krijgen we vaker als, de datum is voor onze ontmoeting.

Ja.

Weet je, ze willen het voor we elkaar überhaupt kunnen ontmoeten, dus ja. Well, we don't have to lose our place in the queue to deliver our information, right?

Are you planning to come to the meeting tomorrow?

Yes, I think so. Take your signatures with you. Well, especially on the matter of the nature reserve.

Because?

I think that's an important point. They have a number of houses that fall completely within the reserve.

Now I think about it. I think I may have received a voice letter, so I would like to remember my vote about this.

Well, we don't have to vote. We only give comments.

But consider my comment as that of a private person. Okay.

On to the next point, the bathroom.

It wasn't quite clear to me how this point has changed since the last time we saw it.

Well, we asked them to move it. There is a water line or river line, his water line, that has to run through the narrowest part of the moorish area.

Okay.

They show that they have done that.

Okay.

I believe that is what happened.

That sounds logical. And we asked them to move the entrance.

Yes, what a pity, because... There is a beautiful S-dorn. There is what? A beautiful S-dormpal for this parcel that they can hopefully keep. And we asked them to place the entrance closer to that tree. So... I keep asking them to try to keep that tree.

The other point is that there is a fairly visible... Bufferzone is. Die hun regenwaterbekken herbergt.

Juist.

Ik bedoel, ik weet het niet. Ik denk dat we even moeten opzoeken wat onze opmerkingen waren. Ik weet dat we dat hebben aangegeven.

Ja.

De eerste unit op de Noordoosthoek hoort daar eigenlijk niet te staan.

Had u de notulen of iets dergelijks niet in het pakket dat u ons stuurde, waarin onze opmerkingen stonden? Van de vorige keer dat ze langskwamen?

Het is niet in het pakket. Het zit er niet in. Nee, dat was een deel van de e-mail die hij me stuurde.

And do you remember when they were last seen?

Yes, I can take it.

Because if you have a date, I might have a picture of our notes. Where are they from?

14 January and 25 November. From last year?

From 25? Yes, yes.

Really? I'm surprised. Apparently they still don't have approval from the Planning Commission if this is a DRC, right?

Correct. I don't have anything from November.

I can't remember. It has changed a bit between the first two meetings.

So in January 2024, no, December 2024. I knew it, no. Oh, 14 January 2025. Our remarks were that we needed a provision for provable use or that they needed it. We advise to reduce the buffer zone that is created by the water storage. Buffer boards must be placed for construction. Houses must be placed further from the buffer zone on cables 4 and 1. 2.

4 and 2. A 2. That is a 2, 3, 4. H, M. I think that parcel 1 is the parcel we're talking about, right? Yes, one is the North-East corner. Yes. Two is the South-East corner. I mean, we're talking about that little house for the coho-salm. Not about an unremarkable creek or a seasonally bound creek. There is also the 30-metre high outer wall. I don't know what will happen if we get a 500-year flood of 150 meters. Yes.

We must have reported in the November version that the pipeline must be moved through the smallest part of the moorish area. Yes. Because that remark is not in it.

It would also be nice to look at the request for the default use permit. See if everything is still in use. Okay, there is the overpass. Nog iets wat ik. Weet je, er is die hoek van het kleine perceel in de Noordwesthoek.

Die hebben ze afgesneden.

Die hebben ze afgesneden en eerder verkocht of bebouwd. Ik weet niet of er nu een huis staat.

Dus ja, op de plattegronden lijkt het erop van wel.

Ja. So when they did that, they shot themselves in the foot in a certain sense, because now they are forced to attach a rope to that parcel.

Or to use a septic well, which for one reason or another may not be possible due to the proximity of the wetlands. It should not be our problem that they have pressed themselves into that corner and that we now have to make concessions to him to set up the rail line. It has, according to me, also a small impact further towards the road. So maybe we can say something like, the Commission continues to worry about the unfairly large impact... ...on the buffer zone of Little Coheset Stream.

And that would include the area that is affected by the water storage.

Yes, yes, you can say, at the... ...water storage... ...or the rainwater disposal... There is a point at the end of it. A pile of dia's. There is one that only shows the impact of the moorland area.

Well, we have a buffer zone policy that... ...requires compensation.

Compensation, right.

But we do not specify what that compensation contains.

Right. So... We give them a list of suggestions.

Specifically for their location. That's right.

Do we have any suggestions? Well, I think we tried to get them to donate a plot of land on the east side to the municipality to add to the cemetery.

Did they kick it or sell it?

No, I think they kicked it. I think it says in the sign that it will be kicked. Yes.

I think we are discussing that concept. Right, because it was a win-win situation. They had to leave. They had no choice.

Right. And you can't bury people in a moorish area either. So it forms a buffer. It forms a buffer in any case. I know it. But I think that my original remark, that we are still worried about the unnecessarily large buffer zone impact of the rainwater drainage installation in the northeast corner, is correct.

But if we do that and they move the installation outside the buffer zone, then they also move the entrance.

I think they have to give up that unit. I don't think that's the only way they can do it. But maybe, you know, they're smart engineers. They've come so far.

Maybe we should hope that the first unit has to be removed. Yes.

If there is no other technical solution, consider removing the unit. And there goes my tree.

They haven't cut anything for three years, so... No, someone dumped waste and used furniture on a site. Good.

It's just not possible. It is difficult to believe that placing all those units there would not have any impact with all those medicines and the supply and... Yes?

Okay then. E.H.M. We have an open hearing. E.H.M. About the purchase of 144 behind Wildwood Road. E.H.M. I have received notes from a resident. Why would we pay for land that cannot be built because it is worthless?

It is a bit worth it. Part of the tax.

Also my observation.

Yes, I think we should take the DIAs for a while and that the people can see it at home.

Yes, they can see it. Is that in our file?

No, yes, it is. I, yes, I put it in. Oh, good. It's under DIA's hearing. Ah, ja, dank u. Heb je moeite om het te openen, Mike? Het is aan het... Nadenken, aan het... Nadenken, ja, heel langzaam, maar er is een percentage dat langzaam stijgt. Er zullen wel te veel mensen de verkiezingsuitslagen controleren.

Juist. Ik maakte de fout om erin te gaan net toen de schoolbussen naar buiten kwamen. Oh jee, net als jij.

Ik ging weg net toen. Ze zich klaarmaakten om te vertrekken. Vlak achter me.

Ik ging ochtends. Dat was mijn, het was perfect.

Ze maakt me gek. Ze zou Sharepoint moeten gebruiken. Wil je de notulen invullen of zoiets terwijl dit laat? Ik weet niet hoe lang dit gaat duren. Multitasking, ja.

65%. Oh my god, there are so many.

Oh, there we go. Oh my god. I think I'm going to talk from there, just because it might help the people at home. It takes a long time.

The purpose of this hearing is to hear the opinion of the people about the question of whether we should continue with the project on card 3, parcel 9. We are close to Mammoth Road, where Black Brook flows towards South Road. Okay, this is just a picture of the creek, typical. The interesting thing about this creek is that it looks like this now. I went there on purpose in the driest period I could find, in August, because there is a jungle there. And I wanted to see what was going on in place. But according to the owner of this area, he extends to the outskirts and fills almost the entire area that I will show you in the next video. Go ahead. This is the parcel we're talking about here. It actually consists of two parts. There is a small part here. And you see Mammoth Road here and above the tunnel where it goes under Mammoth Road, from it. Terrain of the sawmill. You can see that it is almost all marked as wet, because it is also real. I use the land measurement here that the project developer of this land and this land here has let perform. If we have a land measurement on both sides, this is a creek that can be easily recognized on the ground, this small piece here. And it's all Very densely grown. Next slide, please. You see that here. That might pop out a little, maybe not. You can see that there are houses everywhere here. In most cases they are a little further back, it's great. And on this side, down there, they are a lot further back. And that's good, because as far as they fertilize, I'm sure of that. They treat that fertiliser as it comes off and goes down to this small piece of land, actually a floodplain. But when the land meters performed this measurement, they used the border of the moorish area as their back border. That border is, you know, passed down from owner to owner, but there is actually only one other plot that runs from here all the way to South Road and the shape of it looks a bit like it, only a lot longer. Interestingly enough, the data sheet of the tax office says that this is only 1.5 hectares. But that is not possible, because this is probably a typical plot of 1.5 to 2 hectares and you can see how you could lose a lot of it. So we're probably talking about 5 or 6 hectares, something like that. But anyway, let's go to the next DIA. This is typical if you like spring balsam, because this is what it is.

Yes, it is beautiful.

It is everywhere. And it is so close that you can hardly walk through it. But it is very typical, it is a combination of this. Low-hanging, herbaceous material and trees that grow closer to the shore. This probably represents the area that is sufficiently flooded in the spring and winter, so that trees cannot settle. EHM, next DIA, please. There are some pictures of the... Beekdie, point if you look closely, you see a light area, and that is light because that is Mammoth Road. It is just the light that comes down from Mammoth Road. You can see that it is very bare here. I'm not sure if this is partly due to construction activities. When they originally installed Mammoth Road or something like that, but... It quickly changes from this crappy configuration to the earlier grind bedding that I showed you earlier. Your next dia, please. So I want to ask the question, why do we want to do this? The short answer is to protect Black Brook against what may happen in the future and to put a long series of protective measures along the creek. Black Brook is actually part of this flow area here. Number 7 up here. It flows to Hudson. But the Black Brook itself goes out into the Ull, Beaver Brook before it, you know, flows into the sea further. So, if you look closely, you see that this is one of the longest streams. It starts here completely and flows all the way down here into Beaver Brook. One of the longest pieces of creek we have that is completely in Londonderry. And I'm just trying, so this here is this, you look, here a little bit. I'm trying to show you how it is with all those other partial flow areas in Londonderry. You see that they almost all leave the city, right? They go this way up to the Merrimack River via Hudson or Litchfield. They go this way up to Derry and then back down via Beaverbrook. Deze blijft vrijwel in Londonderry, behalve dit stukje hier, en gaat dan naar Hudson. Volgende dia. Het mooie van dit project is dat het voortbouwt op veel werk dat we al hebben gedaan. Dit is de... zwarte lijn, dat is Black Brook. En... This, by the way, comes from our water research. Many of these photos are from many years ago. You see some turbidity here. And here the water flows in. This is beaver brook that comes down here. So here the water flows in. But if you look closely, you see that most of this is protected by the creek. You know, it springs into the water of Eversource when you go there.

High range would go.

Not high range. On the other side of the magnetic range.

Adams. Shasta. Shasta, thank you. There is a high voltage line and that high voltage line is actually where the source of the beam is. It flows down, along the schools. And this is all managed by the school district. Eversource has the other part. We have U, then we have the tree garden land. Now we have a nature conservation heritage. And then we add this parcel here. Here is Mammoth Road, so this area here. And... The municipality of Londonderry owns a strip of land that is protected by Beaverbrook. So what we are trying to do here is to expand this protected area along the creek with a small piece. And make sure that in the future, if something happens to it on both sides in 150 or 200 years and someone gets in trouble, a great idea to demolish a few houses and put something else in place for it. We care about it and we have control over it. We can go there. As large landowners, we also have the right to inspect it and ensure that nothing is wrong. And we have found that it is in pretty good condition. Most of the neighboring residents have dealt with it well. It is so densely populated that not much can go wrong. There were a few things thrown over the scaffolding that we were able to place back on the side where they belong, but in general they take good care of it, which is great. And now we want to make sure that it is maintained well. Next dia, please. Another photo. You see a bed here, right? And up here you see more slippery material. What happens is that the spring flood washes this away and then removes what it has taken along the way and that part of the river where the water flows slower. So it's actually a great tool for nature conservation and hydrogeomorphology if you want to use it for that. But the details are as follows, the taxpayer estimates the value at $23,300. The owner has said that he is willing to accept the higher taxation value. It costs us a quarter of the purchase price and we try to let it be taxed. So it just doesn't matter. But he also agreed that if there are transaction costs that we make, he would lower the price to cover those transaction costs.

What could that be?

Well, it could be a country measurement and I suspect that it could still not be approved if the lawyers do not approve my way of describing it. As I said, I base myself on those two studies on both sides as sufficient to describe this. The risk is really very low. And... If they decide that they want a legal test, then that is of course possible. Unfortunately, things are currently not going well with the municipality in the legal field. So, you know, and they can ask us to discuss that. That could cost a few hours of legal testing. But it could cost around $23,000, I think. And as I mentioned earlier, it is stated in Act 1.5 Acre. It seems that it is much more. It would be good, Mike, if you ... The database would be able to advise for the net cable size and the map, the property database, not the database of the Tax Service, but the database that is linked to your database. Yes, and tell me what it thinks that area is, how big it is. Yes, I can do that.

Yes, but the files can very well just be a copy of what is already there, because it is easier for a title researcher to follow if the surface does not change. But, well, yes, probably my most accurate data when.

The surface is not mentioned in the files.

Yes, yes, possibly too.

They only report the boundaries and do not report anything like.

Like data again. Or something like that.

Yes, so we will see. But, uh, that's the idea. So, uh, the intention was to make the public hear an opinion. We have received one response, I think, that says, why do we buy land that is already protected? But actually it is not protected. It is now dependent on the well-being of the neighbors. And what we want is to have the opportunity to intervene and control it.

So, okay, apart from that, and...

Without further comment, the next step is that we as a committee make an recommendation to the municipal council to buy the parcel with our nature protection funds. And we have more than enough means to do that. So, we go back to the commission and they can ask questions and vote.

Any questions? I think it's great.

Anyone?

Yes, I think it's great. Very informative. No objection. I think it's a good idea.

So, we can submit a motion to...

The municipal council orders to purchase parcel 9, map number 3, as stated in the DIAs. Second.

Any further discussion?

No.

Opposition? Opposition? Remembrance? Motion unanimously adopted.

The municipality reports the parcel as 1.5 hectares. Is that correct? Yes. How? But I agree with your visualization. Yes, that's the database of the tax service you're looking at, I think. Yes, I. You can't get to his database. Okay, I'll look at the map that's on the municipality's website. Yes, no, it has to be the same as in the files. Okay.

Good, that's fine. EHM, then we can continue with the old cases. EHM, maintenance of the road. Our friend Josh Cook, who used to be in the committee and now works for Trailways, is busy collecting people for a maintenance day on the Madders Trail. We have some electrical equipment and he is busy managing volunteers. Hopefully he gives me a date, then I'll let you know. Anyone who wants to help remove weeds can clean up that path.

Ik heb het pad open tot aan de plek waar de kaart staat, aan de rand van het bos.

Dus goed.

It is a narrow path. You can go through it on foot, you can go through it by bike, but I didn't go all the way through it. Yes, and most of the time it remained accessible, but I haven't been there for a few years. I don't know what it looks like now. It was a green hell on the flat part. You couldn't see that it had ever been there. There was a path.

Well, and that was, I think I already said it the last time, it is overwhelmed because no one uses it, or no one uses it because it is overwhelmed. Yes. You know, so maybe if we show it a little less wild, people will use it.

Yes, it was popular with mountain bikers. Yes, so EHM. We really have to send a message to the fishing and wildlife management department. Even kijken of ik het juiste e-mailadres kan vinden.

Oké, want ik ga zeggen, zodra we een datum hebben.

Ja.

Laat ze weten wat onze plannen zijn.

Ja, juist, juist, juist. Goed idee. In de tussentijd zal ik proberen een geschikt e-mailadres te vinden en dat naar je te sturen, dan maakt dat het makkelijker.

Oké. Ik heb donderdag een Zoom gesprek met iemand van Fish and Game over het konijnen habitat. Oh. Zijn eerste e-mail was dat hij met me wilde praten over wat we graag zouden willen zien. Dus. H.M. Dat vond ik geweldig, want ja. In combination with our forest guard who will present his plan to us in a moment, we would like to start there and cover the forest again. Yes, well, that was also the thought that we had to do when we started the project. But yes, I understand, the rabbit project was not so successful. But the birds have come. So let's, you know.

Yes, with that.

Go on and maybe it will get better.

Yes, absolutely. Timing determines everything in that respect.

Because I mean, if you've been there, even the last one that was mowed, I believe, was the Cooper. It really has to be finished and mowed. Yes, as far as that is concerned, there are power lines running over the Cooper parcel and there is an Eversource port directly on Litchfield Road. And that port is not locked, so it is often open. And I don't know who I have to get to lock him up. Eversource?

I think those are Eversource locks. Yes.

Yes.

Glenn had keys for them, but...

Yes, well, I actually have a key. There's just no lock on it.

Yes, yes.

So someone keeps opening it and going in, but I don't know what they're doing. I think they're just driving through Wadsbrook.

Yes, I'm sure of that.

What I'm not happy about. Quads, probably? No, big trucks. Oh. I think they're driving through them in pickup trucks. But I can't prove it, so...

If you talk to Tanja Painter, she might be able to tell you more. We have a... contact person for information.

Well, I wanted to ask the forest guard if he has... Glenn's contact list. Yes, exactly.

Because we've met this person before. It's a man now. I can't remember his name. It used to be a woman, but...

Oh yes.

Their job is to work together with municipalities and then...

Right.

The area around London falls under his responsibility.

And then much more.

Yes.

I might have some business cards here.

But he is the person who can get you in touch with the right people.

It seems to me a good idea to lock that gate, because they have placed large tree trunks and rubble blocks on the sides of the gate to prevent people from walking around. So they recognize that it is a problem.

Right.

And we just have to lock that gate again. So yes, I'll get started.

If you're going to talk to Fish and Game about Rabbit Head, then that's probably where we want to be for the construction of the pad. Matthews, yes.

Yes, so if you could say during the conversation, by the way, we have an agreement with you to maintain this pad. Just for information.

We're going to do that. Okay.

That might be enough. If not, then he can probably say, yes, you have to talk to someone you have to talk to. Yes, yes, exactly. Good, okay. EHM.

Does anyone else have other things to discuss?

I had already said at the previous meeting that the kiosk at Hickory Hill was very inaccessible. To my surprise, I saw that some people were trying to find a way in to get to the maps. So I cleaned it up today. I opened the path again.

I sent Dave Welly an email and I think the DPW is currently very busy, which I understand. EHM, but I'll come back to this later, because I think the flood at the Beaversen. Dringender probleem is. Maar goed.

Vanaf vandaag kun je het pad volgen van de oude parkeerplaats naar de kiosk. En je kunt het pad volgen van de nieuwe parkeerplaats naar de kiosk. Kiosk. Oké, ik ken de mensen niet goed, maar je kunt er wel komen zonder een tekenbroedplaats te zijn.

Juist. Nog iets.

I tried to contact the owner of Penny, the old Pennyfans company. I can't remember the new name for a moment. Me neither. Oh yes. If they would like to talk to us about cooperation to create parking space for Lithia Springs. And I haven't heard anything yet, so... I will have to find another way to solve that. Maybe I have to shift the problem a bit to a higher instance. I think someone will eventually draw their attention. So?

Anything else?

Oh, I actually have to report that they had promised that the subsidies for the hiking trails would be announced in August. And whether we have such a big lag that they don't bother to tell us, or they haven't announced them yet.

Well, that would be nice to hear.

Yes, that would be good.

So, I have financial updates and we have more than $109,000 on that Habitat account. So we have more than enough to start a small project and I would say that I still have some money left. I only have until June 30th. Ik weet niet of we uitgaven hebben gehad. We hebben zo weinig vergaderingen gehad en ik heb er één gemist, dus ik weet niet of er uitgaven zijn geweest. Het is geen probleem, want het komt gewoon van onze begroting af, waarschijnlijk. Maar ik hoop dat ik dat voor de volgende vergadering weer in orde krijg. Ja, het duurt even voordat ze het fiscale jaar hebben afgerond, dat eindigde op 30 juni. En ik heb sinds april niets meer gehad. Okay. Expenditure for, we had, we had. We have $1,650,129.71 in the fund for the protection of natural areas per June 30, but there is. About $90,000 lost, so our current balance should now be $1,741,648.89. So it keeps growing. You know, and the whole story is about last year, sorry. EHM. Sorry. I don't think I gave it a title, but we did. I know we got more than $36,000 this year. So I can't tell you what we got this year. My apologies. We did, well, maybe that's true. E.H.M., we've been getting payments of $50,000, $60,000, $70,000 lately. A few years ago it was more. Anyway, E.H.M., that's what's on the bank right now. So that's the good news. Okay. E.H.M., any other business? Well, that's it.

Good.

We can now make the nodules.

Really, this time?

Yes, I can't let that happen. No, they just disappeared today.

I had no changes, I thought it worked well.

Oh, I know Mike, I'll wait until we do this. I only had one more question. How many bills do we get for the $10,000 we spent on that project in Lithuania?

I think I saw two invoices. I just asked them.

Where does that money come from? From us. It should come from a subsidy, right?

Well, we didn't get any money from the subsidy because we haven't invoiced them yet.

Oh, okay.

It will be a refund.

Because I sent the invoice to the financial department and said, I think you have the money for this. And now it's written off from our bills. And I haven't heard from them anymore. So we have to do that.

Has anyone already paid them?

Deb says that two payments of $10,000 have been made.

Okay, good.

So? Eventually we get it back, which is also good news. Had je nog iets anders? Nee, dat was het. Oké. Wil iemand een motie voor de notulen?

Motie om de notulen van dinsdag 11 augustus zoals gepresenteerd te accepteren. Tweede.

Motie door Bob, gesteund door Mike. Nog verdere discussie? Allen voor? Ik. Onthouding. Onthouding. Deb onthoudt zich. En nu is de motie aangenomen. Dat is alles.

Ik wil opmerken dat Gary volgens mij maandag door de gemeenteraad wordt beoordeeld.

Ja. Klopt.

Dat. Ja.

Je hoeft niet te gaan. Ik ga voor.

Oh, dank u.

Alles. In orde. Ik stel voor de vergadering te sluiten. Tweede. Ga naar huis. Allen voor?

Ja.

Ja. Vergadering gesloten.