City Council - Regular Meeting

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Good evening, everybody. Welcome to the City of Titusville City Council regular meeting scheduled September 8th, 2026 at 630. I'm going to call this meeting to order. City Attorney, do we have a quorum?

Yes.

For an invocation, we will hold a moment of silence, please. Thank you very much. Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you very much.

Can I have a motion to approve the minutes? Move to approve the minutes of July 28th at 530, August 11th, and the special meeting on August 4th. Second. And August 20th. Second.

I have a motion by Member Nelson, a second by Vice Mayor Cole. Any discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. City Manager.

Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor, and members of City Council. We have nothing under special recognitions and presentations. First items under boards and commissions are Board of Adjustments and Appeals, and there are currently two alternate member vacancies on this board. Both vacancies have been advertised on the city's website, the city's bulletin board, and government television. Mr. Neil Pinnell has expressed his willingness and desire to serve on this board as an alternate member with an unexpired term to expire on July 31st, 2028, and the recommended action is to appoint one alternate member to the Board of Adjustments and Appeals for the unexpired term to expire on July 31st, 2028. Thank you, City Manager, City Clerk.

City Council.

Move to appoint Neil Parnell as an alternate to BAA for a term to expire on July 31st, 2028. Second.

I have a motion by Member Nelson, a second by Vice Mayor Cole. Any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously.

City Manager. So moving on to 6B, the Code Enforcement Special Magistrate. The Code Enforcement Special Magistrate semi-annual written report is included in the agenda packet and no action is requested.

City Council, any questions about the report?

Seeing none, City Manager. Moving on to 6C, the North Brevard County Hospital District Board. The North Brevard County Hospital District Board's semi-annual report will be presented.

Good evening. Good evening. Gee, let me know you're alive here. Matter of fact, I like what you all did here. This is very nice, especially having the city manager and city attorney here. It looks so much better. But I do. Good evening, mayor and city council members. I'm Robert Jordan. I'm chairman of Paris Medical Center Board of Directors. Thank you for the opportunity to provide Paris Medical Center's semiannual report. Our theme today is transparency, sharing the facts openly, acknowledging challenges, and showing how we are fulfilling our mission. We value the trust placed in us to serve this community. Independent national expert voices have recognized Parish for making transparency a practical driver of health care improvement. The 2025 Full Transparency Award reflects our commitment to openly reporting quality, safety, and patient experience information. Not all healthcare organizations do that. For Titusville, that openness supports informed oversight and strengthened community trust. Transparency also means addressing difficult matters directly rather than allowing misinformation to stand unchallenged. The litigation described here and this person's retaliation campaign against us have not succeeded. He has been proven wrong many times in court of law where the truth matters. Parrish has defended both his record and his responsibility to the community. We will continue communicating the facts clearly and truthfully while remaining focused on patient care. Parrish operates without local tax support. The parish operates without local tax support, and the board has not imposed a tax for more than 31 years. An active communication campaign is underway to better inform the community of this important fact. At the same time, we provide substantial clarity, charity care, and work to keep the cost of care low for North Brevard residents. We share these facts so the council and the public can clearly see our financial stewardship and community benefit. This snapshot puts our operation and uncompensated care into clear, measurable terms. Titusville residents represent 17,445 unpaid encounters and nearly $19.9 million in unpaid balances. More than half of the total shown in the past year. Publishing these figures helps the city understand both the scale of service we provide and the financial pressures we manage. And as just as an aside, you have to understand for every hundred dollars that we charge a customer, we only get $20 back. That's a lot. We are presenting the CMS Star Rating openly because transparency requires candor about performance, not only recognition of success. We take the rating seriously and use CMS and several other healthcare creditors' feedback to target improvements. Our commitment is to report progress honestly and strengthen trust through measurable improvements. Here are just a few of the current recognitions earned. These recognitions are independent assessments, not simply claims we make about ourselves. Together, they provide external validation of transparency, regulatory compliance, clinical quality, patient-centered care, and community value. We will continue using outside reviews as both an accountability tool and a roadmap for improvement. These reviews are rigorous. Earning these recognitions is not easy and are a testament to the exceptional people of Parrish, our physicians, our nurses, our employees, and our volunteers. I trust the Council and community are as proud of them as we, the Board of Directors, are. Independent editorial recognition and public reviews offer two different positive views of our performance. Becker's recognition cannot be purchased, and our 4.5 Google rating reflects feedback from the 9,597 reviews. We welcome this public feedback because it shows where trust is strong and where we must continue listening. Our $25 million technology investment is key to our strategic roadmap and will accelerate our digital innovation journey. Implementation of our new computer system will mean one unified health record across the parish system and will lead to elevated clinical performance and enhanced care coordination and patient experiences. We are sharing the implementation timeline now so the council and community can follow progress toward the planned 2027 go-live. These new providers demonstrate how we are expanding local access across a broad range of specialties. Each provider strengthens our ability to keep more care close to home for Titusville families. The Stroke Network Partnership with Health First puts patients' outcomes ahead of organizational boundaries. It is designed to speed lifesaving treatment and strengthen coordination across Brevard County. Most recently, Parish was a successful grant awardee as part of the Federal and State of Florida Rural Health Transformation Initiative. The 5.2 million in grants is an investment in rural access and a future ready healthcare workforce. This work aligns parish government and community partners around visible results and shared accountability. Taken together, these facts show an organization committed to openness, responsible stewardship, and continuous improvement. Our board, employees, nurses, physicians, and volunteers are accountable for turning their commitment into care for this community. This concludes my presentation. Mayor and council members, I welcome your questions.

Thank you very much, Mr. Jordan. Vice Mayor.

Well, you know I have to say something, right? Of course, yes. Having been a part of the Parish Medical Center Board for the last 26 years, I am quite familiar with the progress that we've made under the CEO, George Mkhitaryan, and the VPs that we have present tonight. And we really, as a community, we honestly thank you for what you do and the services that you provide. And having been apart for so long, I know the problems that we go through. And you spoke about the $19 million that are unpaid. We can't turn anybody around at Parish. And somehow our chief financial officer is able to make it without those payments. So I'm telling you as the public that one of the most tremendous assets in our community is Parish Medical Center.

I appreciate you saying that. It is a challenge that we have, and this is coming from my heart. When you see negative things come out of social media about the employees, about the doctors, about administration, that hurts the community. That hurts the community. I saw, I kind of smiled, but then I was saddened because if you remember what happened to Stuart, there was a lot of people talking negatives about Stuart and then they went away. And then I look on social media and all I hear is about all the bragging about how wonderful Stuart was, but now they're gone. I will tell you categorically, yes, I've been on the board for 28 years. We have never put a tax on the people, and it's because of the board. The board don't want to put that on the people. But this hospital belongs to the people. And if the people understand that the processes that we have to go through, the things that we have to go through on a daily basis, if you heard what I said, as a business owner, there is no way someone can survive. If you're charging someone $100 and all you can get back is $20, you ask the question, well, how do you continue to do that? And also, remember, reimbursement comes from the commercial insurance side and from the government side, Medicaid and Medicare. And the government is trying to find a way to even give you less. So when you start hearing about, hey, I didn't like this doctor or I didn't get this on time and I didn't get that on time, rest assured, We want you to get whatever you need on time so that the doctors can diagnose you and so that you can leave the hospital. It's a beautiful hospital, I will tell you, but nobody wants to stay there, right? It's okay to visit, but you don't want to stay there. And our goal is always healing families, healing communities. Thank you.

Thank you. Member Nelson?

I was...

I was leaving.

You're leaving? I'll beat you to the parking lot. No, no.

Erase me. Erase me.

I always thought Parrish was a good hospital. And I went to another hospital, sorry, George, last week, because my doctor was there. And I got to tell you, I walked out of there, and I'm thinking, I couldn't find the front door. I was in a parking lot. I walked around for 10 minutes looking for the front door. I couldn't find registration. There were no signs there. Couldn't find my doctor. Couldn't find the cafeteria. And my kids... The kids from astronaut always went to parish for an afternoon snack because food was so good. There were no kids there. I did find the cafeteria. The food stunk. And I thought, you know, this is a for-profit hospital. And we have it so much better.

Yeah.

And I'm not sure people understand.

I think one of the things that as human beings, we understand that we can always be better. We understand that. Right. But, you know, give us a break every once in a while because it does hurt. me specifically, when I see negative things on social media about this quality hospital. And it hurts the employees. And these employees, I mean, I've had to visit. I've said all along, my 28 years, I just want to supply what the people need, but I never want to have to use it. And I have had to use it, and I'm telling you, the care is great. They're great. So thank you, guys. Thank you. Can I sit down now? No? Come on.

All right. Good evening. So I want to thank you, first of all, for the report and for showing us all the recognition the hospital has received. I would ask in future reports if you could include, and I saw it a little bit on the report you gave now, but it wasn't in our agenda packet, but kind of a dashboard showing the financial performance. One thing I hear a lot about, and this is not just Parish, this is all hospitals, is the wait times for emergency. And so we could actually track, and I know you guys have that data, how it's improving or where we're at each year. So that kind of information I feel like for me would be really helpful as each year, or you do your semiannual report, we can see occupancy, staffing vacancies, things like that. So we can look at the measurements and how perhaps you guys are improving in certain areas.

I thoroughly and absolutely would do that for sure because I think you need to understand that. And I think as we talk about transparency, the public needs to see exactly what we're doing every day. And by the way, since you brought up ER, the challenge that we have and every hospital has is because insurance is so expensive, right? A lot of people go right to the emergency room. The emergency room is supposed to be for emergencies. But when you don't have insurance and you have an ache, you know that you are going to be seen in the emergency room. And so the people will go there. And we can't turn anybody away. The reason why you see $19 million is because we can't turn anybody away. Of course, reasonable people say, well, you need to because nobody can afford that. By law, we cannot turn anybody, and we don't want to turn anybody away. So we end up eating it and try to find other avenues of revenue. Now, by the way, there's one other thing we showed. I'm a proponent of young people, I'm telling you, because I'm getting old. Herman is definitely old. And I just really need for younger people to come into this community. I need professionals to come into this community. And you saw an example of some of the younger doctors and nurses and CRNs that we are bringing into the community because they've got the newest technology. They've got the newest product. Now, you've got to balance that because you still need the experience of the older people. But to balance that is our focus to make sure that the specialties that people complain about, we try to do. I know there's a question that always comes up. Well, why are these doctors leaving? Why are these doctors leaving? We got $19 million that says that we can't afford everything that these doctors want. And sometimes when they find out that they can't get the numbers that they want or they don't have the patients that they want, there is always another hospital that will give them more money to come to their area. And that is the economics of the medical field. Even with the nurses. During COVID, you have to remember, there was a lot of nurses that actually quit so that they can be contracted employees. They go from one hospital to the other, getting a whole lot more money than they would be an employee. Now, COVID is over. Guess what happened? A lot of these nurses now want to come back for a permanent position. The challenge you have when you have contracting nurses is that they don't know your processes. So the quality of care is not as good. And that's one of the things that we battle every day. But you've got a great hospital, guys. I just hope that, you know, social media can be a real positive technology and it can be a very negative one. And I honestly, I'm going to be 69 on Friday. And I'm telling you, I really need for us to turn the tide and start treating people with dignity and ensuring that we take care of each other because all we have is ourselves. Now can I sit down? Thank you, Mr. Jordan.

Thank you very much.

City Manager 6D. Yes, sir. 6D is the 2026-2027 Student Advisory Council membership appointment. And per resolution number 5-2023, the Titusville Student Advisory Council is comprised as follows. Four students appointed from Astronaut, four from Titusville, and four from the academic community in Richmond. And in order to fill out that slate of candidates, we need to have a ninth grade student from the academic community in Richmond appointed, and staff is requesting that council confirm Mr. Riley Berrio as a member of the 2026-2027 Student Advisory Council as nominated from this school. Thank you, city manager, city clerk.

We have one card, Stan Johnston.

Is he here? No.

Well, thank you. City Council, Member Nelson.

Move to confirm Riley Berio as a member of the 26-27 Student Advisory Council.

Second motion by member Nelson second by vice mayor Cole. Is there any further discussion? Seeing none all those in favor say aye Any opposed motion carries unanimously Thank you very much.

We are on on now to item 7 petitions and requests on the power if I may impose I've had a request from Parish Medical Center to do a scheduled a unscheduled surprise presentation and I'd like mr Robert Jordan to approach the podium, please

Okay, council okay with this?

I appreciate that for sure. You ready?

That ain't good.

Good evening again, Mayor, council members, and members of the community. On behalf of Parrish Medical Center, it is my honor to present a special zero harm recognition to Mayor Connors. At Parrish HealthCare, zero harm is more than a safety goal. It is a promise to protect every person who places their trust in us. On Tuesday, September 1st, Mayor Connors was at Parrish Medical Center waiting to pick up his wife following a medical procedure when he saw Ms. Bernice Greif, fall while getting out of her car near our patient pickup area. You do remember this, right? Okay. We are delighted to have Ms. Greif in the audience tonight. Without hesitation, he left his running vehicle and went directly to her side. He stayed calm, made sure help was called, and understood the importance of keeping her still until trained medical assistants arrived. You're not going to cry, right?

I am.

Yeah, I know. I'm very sentimental, too, so it's okay. As Nurse Vanessa arrived nearby with his wife, Mayor Connors immediately called Nurse Vanessa over to help. Because of his quick action, awareness, and compassion, and Nurse Vanessa's response, Ms. Greif received the care she needed and suffered no serious harm. Mayor Conner's action remind us that creating a culture of safety does not begin or end within hospital walls. It begins with people who notice, who care, and who act when someone needs help. We will also recognize Nurse Vanessa with a Zero Harm Hero Award at our next board meeting. Tonight, Mayor Connors, we are proud to present the same recognition to you and appreciation of your quick thinking, your compassion, and your example as a true good Samaritan of our community. Congratulations.

Thank you very much.

Okay.

So a little bit more to that story. My wife gets loaded in my truck, truck's running. She's, I'm not there. And my wife is still under the effects of anesthesia. And they're like, where's your husband? He's across the parking lot. Somebody's on the ground. I don't know, but she was half out of it. So don't give her any credit for it because she was just sitting in the truck. But again, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. And it means a lot. So city manager, I believe we're on petitions and requests from the public.

Yes, sir.

It's old school seeing you guys up there. I love it. You don't have to look over there going, why are they over there? First, I would like to ask if you all are aware about the homes in Hickory Hills that are butted up next to Judge Brothers Coffee Shop. They've really got some flooding. Went over there to do a little politicking and Ran into a buzzsaw, man, they were really struggling. I mentioned last month the term red horse. If you remember, one of you knew that term. I was so shocked that I forgot what I was going to say about red horse and never said anything about it. Red Horse units were the U.S. Air Force's heavy combat construction repair squadrons. The name is an acronym, of course, for Rapid Engineering Deployment Heavy Operational Repair Squadron Engineers.

You're an engineer.

A lot of people don't know that. They were created in 1965 after Secretary of the Defense asked the Air Force to develop this organic heavy construction capability. Small terms, small businesses, they have what they call prime beef. They do the easy stuff. But the Red Horse do the big stuff. I'm not surprised that Colonel Cole was one to make the suggestion before the council about the wastewater infrastructure because of that. I had to do a lot of studying going, why did he know Red Horse? As an Air Force veteran that served under numerous men who were in Vietnam, I salute you, sir. Just serving in Vietnam, wow. A lot of the sergeants, I work security, a lot of my sergeants were in Vietnam and they would tell stories and I just, I mean, just cry. These guys built bases during monsoon seasons. We think we got rain. Downpours, mud, under fire from communist North Vietnamese with rockets, motors, and AK-47s. They should be our heroes. Our stormwater system has 120 miles of pipes, 8,000 structures. If we get together like those men, we can do anything. Thank you.

Thank you, sir.

Good evening. My name is Lesha Kott. I live on 2605 Columbia Boulevard. I'm an engineer across in the space industry, and I've been in this city since May of 19. And my concern is how some of the traffic lights operate and how it operates. I'd love to offer suggestions on how to improve some of these. For example, I know on 405, when you're turning to left onto 407 every afternoon, the backup is really bad. And I know just tweaking the timings on these lights could really improve the traffic quite a bit. So I don't know if the city operates these lights or if you're outsourcing the settings on the lights quite a bit. Another intersection is the 405 with 50. I know those lights on weekends. I know they're designed in a certain way to flow the traffic in and out of the city, but I know when weekends come, the backups, for example, coming out of Walmart, the backups are like 10 cars for no reason when there's no traffic going on 405. And in short, I would like to, again, if this is something that city operates, sets these lights, because I know most of these lights can be adjusted, based on just driving on 407 and 405 from both sides at different times, based on how I worked. I would like to see if the city would be, if city sets these timers, and if I could help as a volunteer to help improve these. Because I know over time, when these backup stops start, appearing, you're going to look to add additional lanes and stuff, and that's big capital projects that you could probably try to avoid. So 20 years as a manufacturing engineer, I held a title once, cost reduction engineer. So I'll be willing to volunteer and help out if you guys are open to suggestions on where things can get done better. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. I'm going to ask you to go over there and talk to those two on the end about your suggestions. I'm fairly certain that those are state roads and that the state maintains them, but they could outsource it to us. So I'll let them clarify that with you, whether it's our maintenance for timing or the state that sets those timers. So I'll let you talk to those guys. And, yes, we're all about improving traffic with technology because we can't expand our way out of this. There's just too cost prohibitive, right? Right. Appreciate the suggestion. I go talk to the that guy on the left.

Thank you, man Exactly go by less less is more.

Thank you less Good evening mayor Connors and City Council This is my second request. I was here on July 28 There are developers out there that are not able to go beyond two years on their site plan permits When it expires I discussed that last time And so I requested to be some kind of discussion or at least some direction for the staff to prepare some kind of an ordinance for an extension based on hardship. There are times that the developers encounter problems, either financial or other things, contaminations or whatever the case is, they should really have the right to have an additional extension, at least for a year. So I brought this up last time. I spoke with the city manager about this. And may I request there will be some kind of discussion to at least direct the staff to move forward for that direction.

Are you yielding the rest of your time? Yes. All right. Have a seat. Thank you. Member Moscoso.

Yeah. I'm sorry. Last time you came up during petitions and requests, it was the first time I was hearing about it. I'm okay with perhaps putting it on the agenda so that we can have a little bit more information to look into it. I don't know if we're able to make a decision right now, but at least get the discussion going. So that would be my suggestion.

Well, I think that'd be great for the mayor council reports. We can bring it up and discuss and talk about taking up whether to add it to the agenda at that time.

Good evening, Mayor Connors, Megan, Herman, and the rest of the City Council. I wanted to make a comment on the gentleman who spoke about parish. He's not here. He left. It was about a month ago. I ended up in the ER because of an earache and a headache. And the nurses got me a CAT scan. I saw a doctor like three o'clock in the morning wearing green skivvies. And he goes, okay, I'm going to give you pills. Didn't even look at my ear. That's the bad part. A couple of days later, I went back to the ER. And the nurse took me in, says, we're going to get you a doctor to look at your ear. Dr. George was the name. I can't remember his last name. He went in, took all that wax out. So thank you for Dr. George. Anyway, my topic is stormwater. I was here last month, but this is more of a personal matter because yesterday I came home from work. I hopped on the bus, take the bus home from work. And the downpouring rain, I was soaking wet. Anyway, as the 10 bus is going down Hopkins Avenue near the Goodwill and Brevard Skin, we go through about four or five, six inches of water. The road is flooded. As he's making his route, we go down Sisson Avenue, four or five inches of water, and the road is flooded. And then we finally go up Barna Avenue. four or five, six inches of water and the road is flooded. And I was telling the bus driver, I said, well, if we had an infrastructure, canals, aqueducts, ditches somehow to get the water out near the Cape Canaveral and it drains. And I was saying to him, well, I think it has a lot to do with construction. There's too much construction in Titusville. Houses. subdivisions, apartments being built. There's no way to put infrastructure or canals or ditches or some way to get the water out so it's not flooding the roads. And today I went down Country Club Drive near Royal Oak subdivision, which is related to my stormwater because that was also flooded and there was nowhere for the water to go. And there we go again. with the building of the houses and apartments. And I still think it's a bad idea for the contractor to build a Royal Oak because there's the lack of stormwater draining. You put houses in Royal Oak, where the golf course used to be, and I guarantee six months from now, if that road floods, there's going to be nowhere for it to go. So stop the building.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you, Mayor Connors and Herman and Megan and everybody. Thank you.

Melinda Villan, Historic Indian River City. I am requesting a consistency review for the uses of Acorn Drive. Sorry. Alley system, sorry, no.

All right, good.

You're okay.

I'm still trying to understand why the city repeatedly told you that Acorn and its alleyways will likely not apply for the no trucks ordinance, telling you they believe everything next to me is commercial while also admitting they've never formally looked into the uses of our street. I'm wondering why, when asked by the city council what our neighborhood plan says, the city only listed one out of the three main recommendations, new multifamily uses. But when it was the food pantry ordinance, the city told you stopping social services was the focus of the neighborhood plan. That's two out of three, so what's the third? Ah, yes, a commercial encroachment and proper buffering between uses. And that's important because what is in front of you are the resolutions of the neighborhood plan that, according to strategy 1.13, 1.7 of the comprehensive plan, you're supposed to abide by. Fuller Statute 163.3194 requires development and development orders to be consistent with the adopted comprehensive plan. And if you don't follow your adopted plan, you open yourselves up to state review for anyone who was willing to take over three years of city council videos, emails, historical records, zoning records, and everything else and compile it all together and submit it to the state. So, in our libraries, a phone book from April 2000, it shows all the uses on Acorn as residential uses. The oldest houses on our street were built in 1920, so for 80 years, including when we were annexed into the city in 1963, our street was entirely residential uses. It was only in the last 26 years that's changed, and the city should have a record of those changes instead of just assuming everything is grandfathered in. Acorn bears the brunt of at least eight commercial uses, each with their own traffic and large trucks. Loading and loading is happening on your local streets in unclassified alleyways, not on private property. The very same alleyways where the core residential zone starts that you're supposed to protect. Our infrastructure is cracked and sinking, and the safety of children on our street are at risk. Once again, Indian River City Commercial is a misnomer. It is mixed use. People can live there, and on Acorn, they do. Everything next to me and across from me is residential uses, except for the back 80 feet of my property across a shared alley that the city still has incorrectly mapped as going all the way through instead of a dead end. The predominant uses of Acorn and its alleys are residential, which the city would know if they actually looked into our uses. So what makes our street and alleyway system so different? And why is the city fighting so hard to keep truck staging on 22-foot wide streets and 14-foot wide alleyways directly where children live? Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Melinda. Thank you.

Good evening, Mayor. Members of the City Council, I'm Sandy Jankovich, 415 Bella Vista Drive, and I'm the chair of Keep Brevard Beautiful for the North Action Team. And I'm not alone tonight. I have my KBB crew in the yellow-green vest behind us, and we are here tonight to talk about what? Tidy up Titusville. Okay, look at these vests. Nobody wants to wear these vests, okay? These are not flattering, they're not a fashion statement, but that's what we wear to show up to help, and that is what helping looks like. So here is why it matters now. On November 7th and 8th, NASA's Max Power air show and the UP Summit land at Kennedy Space Center, right? 50,000 people, the Thunderbirds, Blue Angels, And all that flight runs straight down the middle of the Indian River, which means our waterfront is not the backdrop to this show. Our waterfront is the grandstand to this show. 50,000 people are going to be standing on our sidewalks, on our corners, looking at our town, eating at our restaurants, and shopping at our stores. So we are here to do something about it. And what do we want to do? Tidy up Titusville. Yes. Okay, so we've got this plan and the first, the weeks of October 16th through the 30th, we want to tidy up Titusville and we are calling on all Titusville residents to join us. We have mapped out the whole city into seven zones. And I emailed you guys a copy of those zones, but I know it's been a busy day and I did it late in the afternoon. So if you did not have a chance to read it, I have a copy here for you. If you would like it and I may approach, I can give it to you. Yes? Okay.

Wait until after your time is done. Wait until after.

Okay, great, great, great. Okay. All right. So... Okay. We bring the vest, we bring the gloves, we bring the grabbers, and we bring the buckets. All we need is the volunteers to show up. We have got a Been There, Dump That dumpster company. Isn't that a cute name? Been There, Dump That have volunteered their dumpsters. We have two businesses that have donated their location. Was it New Hope? New Hope, Fellowship, and the White Ocean. So we've got the dumpsters, we've got the locations, we just need the people. And that is my ask tonight. I'm challenging every one of you on the City Council to claim a zone and lead a crew for us. All right? No proclamation, no staff member. Just pick a Saturday, show up, get your boots dirty right alongside with all of us, and work hand in hand with us to tidy up Titusville. Because we're already out there, we're volunteers, we're retirees, we're neighbors, and we're out there doing it because we love Titusville. And we know that you love it as much as we do for serving, and we thank you for that. So we want you to come out, show your love, put a grabber in your hand, a trash bag over your shoulder, and help us tidy up Titusville. So the zones are first come, first serve. So you guys need to look at your zones. There's seven zones. Pick which one you want, and then we'll meet you out there. And one more thing real quick. Our big KBB intercoastal cleanup is September 19th. Adam will be at the Max Brewer Bridge. He is the lead of our volunteer cleanup, and that starts at 8 a.m. So if you want to get any social clubs, any Boy Scouts, anybody you can think of to come out on the 19th, that would be great. We're here to tidy up Titusville, so I will approach and bring you those papers. Thank you very much, Ms. Sandy.

You know, every time I go out on a cleanup with you guys, it's always more and more people just coming to help out. So it's very, very exciting, and I will definitely captain a team, and I'll take Zone 3. Zone 3, all right. We already got a zone picker in that.

All right.

Sorry, North Zone 3. I apologize. There's different ones, but yes, I will have that zone, and I will work on getting volunteers. And thank you very much for doing the work to make our community better. All right. Petitions or requests from the public?

I don't have any more. I can give all of them. Sir?

Hello, my name is Carson Sims. I would like to talk about the flock cameras. The flock cameras have been tracking everyone's move and from the flock brochure it says that they promote safety by utilizing camera streams and vehicle history to predict a vehicle and direction of travel, minimizing the risk associated with vehicle pursuits. So obviously the flock cameras are tracking everywhere you go and then saving that data. Flock cameras can also track a car without a plate, even based on things like details. And Flock OS integrates into drones. I'm not too sure how we can trust the city of Titusville with a mass surveillance system when they don't even want journalists listening in to what the police say. I yield my time. Thank you.

Petitions or requests?

Hello, uh, Hello, council. My name's Steven Hansel. Okay, can you hear me? Okay. I have a problem with some flooding in my neighborhood. There was these dams that were put in in 2012. Now, I can get, I speak for my whole neighborhood. Every single person, you know, there's like 23 of us. I can get signatures and we all don't want these dams. They turned a nice neighborhood into a flood zone. And that's all it's ever done since I've been there. It's flood. Every single hurricane, every single tropical storm, If it just rains for like six hours, it's flooding the streets, it's coming in the house. There's nothing, it ain't right, they should not be there. And I can speak for 23 of my neighbors and they all don't want these dams there. They put them in and they shouldn't be there. It's destroyed homes, it's destroyed, merchandise that I can't replace, you can't replace, pictures, stuff that you can't get again. And everything's gone. I lost 40 something thousand dollars in the last three floods. My neighbors, they lost the same amount. Every single one of our houses, $40,000. Some houses, they keep on insuring and all that, and they come in and they fix them up. But then again, it floods. You got to do it again. These dams don't need to be here. They need to be taken down and... Some help needs to be given to us. If you all can just let me get the 23 signatures. If I get a number, give me a number to call. I'll have them all call you. They're all saying the same thing I'm saying. These dams need to be taken down. Thank you.

Thank you, sir.

Stan Johnston, I asked Stephen to come here tonight and address you. This is more of a problem than what you're thinking about. I questioned this, what the city was doing with dams over 40 years ago. Over 40 years ago, this was planned. Over 40 years ago. That's a long time. So I'll give $200 to anybody who can get a PE to disagree with me on this matter. $200. Jesse said it wasn't enough money. But here's what's going on. I'm going to ask again for your resignation. This is a serious matter, and it's even against our code. Our code says that you're not allowed to put obstructions in ditches. Section code 12-11. You can look it up. It's a violation of code. It's a violation of your oath of office. It's taking property. It's doing a lot of things that are wrong. And you guys must be sick to think that, hey, you just wait months or so until Geosyntec does something about it. That's not right. So I'm going to pray for you guys. Pray for you guys because what you need to do is repent. This is not a good thing at all. It's not a bad thing. It's a horrible thing. It's outrageous what you're doing. You're flooding people's houses, 50 properties in Baker subdivision and numerous on Temple Drive. They weren't, these, on Temple Drive, they didn't have a 100-year floodplain in 2012. In 2016, after the format was adjusted to include Temple Drive, these dams caused the flooding. People have been there 30 years. As far as I know, it's never flooded before in its life until the dams were put in. Get rid of them. Get rid of them. So, Lord, I just pray for you, for the council members to be honest. And honest with you, this is that the city has caused this flooding. Illegally causing flooding. And you need to do something. You owe these people an apology. You right now, as you're denying, denying something that is outrageously, outrageously dishonest. because these dams are illegal for many reasons, at least six reasons. And it doesn't matter what Geosyntec does. Geosyntec did a bad job because they never told the city of Titusville when they did the LOMAR that, indeed, these dams are illegal. And they should have done that. They never did. Now, I've told you many times that they are. So, Lord, I just ask, and I ask for your resignation on this matter because it's a serious matter and you're not doing anything. You're sick people, really sick when you go ahead and flood people and say, hey, you know, we'll just look into it maybe 18 months from now. That's not right. You're not doing what's right. So, I request your resignation.

Thank you. Anybody else for petitions and requests? All right. Seeing none, we are moving on to the next item. But before that, Member Nelson. Thank you.

Kevin and Sandy. So what is causing the flooding in Baker subdivision?

A lot of rain. It's an area that is historically . He's talking about Temple Drive. Temple Drive is after Baker subdivision. That area, historically, back decades and decades ago, we believe went west to the St. Johns. And as you can see, there's manmade ditches, because ditches don't normally take 90 degree turns. in nature that were dug and pushed all the water out towards the lagoon instead of going west. So we do have a grant that is currently ongoing that is looking at that whole basin to look at re-diverting the water west. That will... hopefully cause a lot less water to go through that area and hopefully reduce flooding in those areas. Now, once we get this plan back, I'm hoping towards the beginning of next year to have the plan done. What that's going to do is give us a concept feasibility type plan to go out and get grants with because it's not going to be a small project. It's going to take land acquisition. It will probably take pump stations, if not one, maybe two projects. So it's a big project, but the city has received grants to look at that whole area because we're aware of the flooding.

Do the dams have anything to do with the flood?

I don't know if I can answer that. I believe the area has historically flooded. Now our storms are worse. We're getting more of them. So do they see it more often? Yes. I can't tell you right now yes or no, you know, but They were permitted through St. John's. They were permitted through the city back 2011, 2012, I think.

Okay.

But ponds, I know that he calls them dams because they're supposed to hold water for water quality, but they're retention ponds that hold the water and release it.

Okay. Thank you. Member Moscoso.

Sorry, just to piggyback off of that, we got this picture at 5.30 and I showed it to you. Could you just explain what is going on in this picture and pump the pump?

Yeah, so that was most likely during around a hurricane. So if we have the ability and we know a hurricane is coming, we will pump down those ponds to just give more storage in that area because we know it floods. We know it will stay flooded for a few weeks. So if we have the ability to put a pump out there to... to move those ponds, reduce them to just get more storage in that area we tend to do, and then we'll keep the pumps there. Sometimes we can't put the pumps there because wherever you put them, it's going to flood somewhere else, but we do try to, before a hurricane, to slowly pump it down. If we're pumping it down while everything's flooding, that can cause issues.

All right. City Manager, under consent? Sir, we have 12 items under consent. Any member of Council wish to pull any of those items? Member Moscoso?

Yes, 8L, the lobbying.

Any other items? I'm seeing none. Sir, I will read 8A through 8K for the record. Consent agenda item 8A, contract for the city's third party administrative for claim services. 8B, water allocation permit, Tidesville destination and resort multifamily building. 8C, Victims of Crimes Act VOCA Grant for FY2027. 8D, the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services Hurricane Ian Recovery Grant. 8E, renewal of the city's property and casualty insurance lines of coverage. 8F, change orders for City Hall Chiller Replacement Project. 8G, administrative services medical renewal. 8H, stop loss medical reinsurance coverage. 8I, life insurance benefit coverage for all full-time active employees. And 8J, vision plan enhancement amending agreement. And 8K, downtown tree replacement installation of tree grate safety improvements. Thank you, city manager, city clerk.

We have one card. It's Stan Johnston.

Stan Johnston, I have asked you this question previously about the sustainability and what we're going to do. I gave an example about the chlorine plant that was proposed down there in near Bellwood or whatever it's called. And this is 62,000 gallons. So I question the sustainability that the city claims it has as far as that. And I understand that maybe we may go to reverse osmosis. But... It looks like to me it's repeatedly the sustainability plan has been incorrect regarding a number of things, including stormwater. Big time. Not a little bit. Big, big, big time. And the city of Ticeville has removed its water towers. I don't know how you're going to have pressure in those areas like you had before. And then people are complaining about pressure. So I question about what the heck the city is doing. And right now we have a well field. And this is still talking about our well field, the south well field that was supposed to be solve all of our problems. It didn't do it. It didn't do it at all. It's been like resting for the most part and doing nothing. And the thing is, they talked about we were going to get so much more aquifers from the Geiben-Hirschberg principle. We didn't do it. This was about the dams. In other words, the dams were built to increase the aquifer. We didn't do it. We didn't do it at all. So you're getting a bad deal on engineering, big time. And you need to think about what you're doing. So I'm disappointed in what the city is doing because they don't listen to what engineers are doing. Like, for example, we just had a question about, went to Sandy about it. The thing is, is no PE is going to say that these dams are legal. They won't do it right here in this office. They won't do it because they know they are illegal. So it's a big deal, and I just feel like you guys are sick, really just sick puppies when you continue what you're doing. Thank you. Any questions?

Thank you, Mr. Johnson.

All right, thank you.

City Clerk? No more questions. City Council?

I do have one question for City Manager, maybe Sandy. Under B, I understand we have excess water that we're paying for from the city of Cocoa.

So we have an agreement with them where we pay for three, how much is it? $3,000. Yeah, so we pay them no matter what we use, so we use water from COCO. We went to St. John's and we got our cup changed so we can use more water from COCO and that does not affect our cup allocation. So we can always purchase more water from COCO without it affecting our concurrency.

Are we paying more for the water from COCO?

So we're paying 50 cents more a gallon per 1,000 gallons. But tomorrow we will be bringing you an ordinance that will be adding an extra rate to commercial properties that use more than a million gallons a month to increase that rate. So the large users will end up being paying more. So we're hoping that will fix the issues on these large users that may come in.

Because I was just sort of, My thought is if we have a commercial user and we're having to buy from COCO, shouldn't they be paying more?

Yeah, so that's the ordinance change tomorrow. We'll do that for the large users. We didn't want to, you know, really set it too low and affect people who have been here a long time, like the hospital. So these big ones that are starting to come in, then, yes, that will help this issue. So it's kind of like a conservation rate, just like a residential. We're adding that to the commercial side. The more you use, the more you pay.

So with that, I would move to approve consent agenda items A through K. A second.

There's a motion by Member Nelson, a second by Vice Mayor Cole. For discussion, I don't really have any questions. I just kind of have a general statement. So items G, H, I, and J, I did not pull because there's no sense in pulling it. If you guys remember this time last year, these health care contracts came up before us at a time where open enrollment for our employees was already happening. And this is the second year in a row that this is happening again. So there's no time to bet. There's no time to make changes. There's no time to strategize of another way. This is the way. Unfortunately, we're kind of stuck because open enrollment is almost completed. And so, again, going on to next year, when this all came up in June of 2025, we gave direction to find a new consultant. And it took eight months before the current consultant came back before us to give us their plan on how they were going to fix our health care plan. in which if those eight months weren't lost, maybe our new broker consultant could have had a little bit more leeway, a little bit more time to dive in and fix the root cause. Because I see it, I'm sure you see it, looking at the numbers. So again, just going forward, these big time decisions, when you look at healthcare costs or the second biggest cost next to payroll to our city, these contracts need to come up way before they get put into action and not just as an after fact, thank you, please approve this. So that is my piece. There's a motion and a second on the floor. Any further discussion from council? Vice Mayor, did you have anything? Aye. Sorry. All right. City Clerk, call the roll.

Member Moscoso? Yes. Member Nelson? Yes. Mayor Connors?

Yes.

Vice Mayor Cole?

Yes. Motion carries.

On to Item L. So 8L is a lobbying services contract, and Smith & Associates, attorneys and counselors at law, and their representative, Jason Steele, provided lobbying services for the city of Titusville in FY2026. The City Council has requested the same services to be provided in FY2027. Under this agreement, Mr. Steele will coordinate the City's state-level activities, including appropriations, authorizations, grant proposals, legislative initiatives, and policy matters with the State Legislature and relevant state agencies. And the proposed agreement term is one year and shall continue until terminated by either party upon 30 days written notice to the other party beginning October 1st, 2026 at a monthly rate of $2,500 with an amount not to exceed $35,000 for FY2027. Member Moscoso.

Thank you. So I think I mentioned this during the budget workshop that I wasn't really in favor for this, but I started looking into our estate appropriations, and I actually spoke with Mr. Steele today about some of these questions that I did have, and it's not personal against him. There was just no... And that was because I think a lot of what was happening at the state level, the governor vetoed a lot of the things. And so I recognize that. Some of the things I do have concerns with, and I don't feel like the city has been on the same page as our lobbyist, is right now for 2026, 2027, we still have a request for the 911 communication system update. for over $350,000. We're not even sure if we're going to be moving over to Brevard County. So I think that's something we need to look at. And then there's another one. We still have four requests and for 2026, 2027. The next one is for a Titusville enhanced water treatment improvement, which is a $5 million, $5.5 million project. It says that the city is going to match 2.75 and the project will start in 2029. I haven't seen any budgeting for that. And so we're asking for an appropriation, which we really don't have any, at least from my side, I don't see where we are in that in our budget. And so it's a little bit concerning. I spoke to Mr. Steele about it. And so for me, I'm not really comfortable moving forward with a lobbyist saying, for a few reasons. Um, I think I gave it a try. I wasn't so sure last time I gave it a try. Um, this time I feel like we, if we move forward or if you guys do move forward, I would ask that there would be a workshop. We put something in the calendar perhaps in April and we look at our priorities. If we are going to hire a lobbyist and these are our priorities, these are our shovel ready projects that we want because right now he's putting in things that we decided, uh, last year that we needed and now they're coming up for the table. And we have some time now to change that. But I think that we're asking him to do a job that we haven't quite prepared him for. So I prefer that we get our ducks in a row before we hire a lobbyist in that sense. And maybe that is something he could help us with in the future. I just don't feel like we're there yet. And I feel like we're going to send these back up without a lot of information. And that's not a failure really on his part either. It's also a failure on our part as a city of not preparing him well for those things.

Thank you, Member Moscoso. I'm very supportive of moving forward and trying to get money out of Tallahassee in any which way we can. Now I think it's a fair question to say at our next city council meeting we can go over a list of projects and let council kind of give that feedback because I think last time it was more of a staff-directed conversation. So I think that is fair to say, hey, at our next council meeting, we'll have a conversation about which projects we're going to go after and what does that look like. To my understanding, staff felt comfortable that they had the capital funds in the budget to work through some of those issues. But yes, we probably should not be going after the same appropriations we did last year for this year because again, it's a whole different world this year versus last year. I think that is fair and some of our needs and the whole landscape has definitely changed. Member Nelson. I agree.

We do need to have a conversation. I think for me and I think for our city, Our major concern is our flooding, and I'm hoping that we will be able to get some money out of Tallahassee to help our citizens. They need it, but you're right, we need to identify those projects and identify projects that are ready to go. So I like the idea of having a conversation I think he can help us out. And for that reason, I want to give him that shot.

Vice Mayor.

Yes, I agree with Member Moscoso that we do need to get together and give him a list of projects. But I do think we need to have a voice in Tallahassee. I've seen Mr. Steele in action with Congressman Herodopoulos and Myron Donalds and Senator Ashley Moody and all our state representatives. He has the relationships. And that's what we need to help move us forward and try to get funds. But I do agree. that we need to give him a priority list of things that we want him to work on. Come November, things are going to change. The governor is not going to be the same governor that vetoed all of our other projects before. So I am in agreement that we need a lobbyist, but I am also in agreement that we need to give him a list of things that we feel that are important to us, give him our priority list.

All right. Thank you, council, city attorney.

Yes, just from a legal perspective and hearing council members, you're voicing your concerns or ideas. I would say the agreement, which I think is the word agreement is used loosely on this letter, that perhaps the scope of services within an agreement or a retainer agreement and or letter of agreement, whatever the terminology is used, needs to be a little bit more specific, which is what I'm hearing. from council and council members as it pertains to, as it currently sits or stands, I think this is a little bit too vague and deficient on the scope of services that the lobbyists would be providing the city, especially for $35,000. Member Moscoso.

Yes, thank you. And I mean, I would agree. I think if you guys decide to move forward, then there have to be those things as we request reports. And I know he does do a good job of calling us and sending us these little emails, which I do appreciate. But I do think a formal report to the council to know where we are. And then we can also give the feedback, too, of, hey, we're not going forward with this project. So I think that those things built into the contract would be very helpful as well.

Member Nelson. So can we table it until the next meeting?

Well, I would make a recommendation that you give very clear direction of the city attorney to engage in a contract establishment and also the city staff prepare an agenda item for the next meeting to discuss our project priorities. So, again, I think it's two parts, but I think you can include it in one motion.

I'm thinking one motion.

Yeah, I said one motion.

Half. So my motion would be to... We have two cards.

I'll call the cards once the motion has been clearly identified. We didn't know which way this was going to go.

Prepare an agenda item for the next meeting to discuss what projects potentially that we could look at having our lobbyists help us with.

Well, are you going to include the contract part?

And then we can make the contract a little more specific. Second.

Okay, so just for my own edification, we're just making a motion to have a discussion at the next meeting about our list of project priorities, and then at that time we'll discuss about the contract. Right.

And we're asking staff to bring us a list of what they feel – what our priorities should be. Okay.

All right. I was just making sure I clarified the motion. City Clerk.

Stan Johnston.

You're not going to like what I say about this, but this looks like an opportunity for something that we really need because the city of Titusville needs to correct these dams. And maybe you can get it from... from the state. But the thing is, is what who has let us down is our consultants, that is Geosyntect and DRMP. I'm speaking badly of them because they made horrible mistakes and they haven't told you. They haven't told you that these dams were illegal when they were put up. They didn't do that. They knew it. They knew it.

I'm cautioning you to stay on topic.

So, in other words, this lobbyist should be able to get us money for stormwater that we need right now. Not in 18 months. Right now. We need it. We need to do it. It's your guy's fault. In other words, you're not listening to what I'm saying. In other words... When I put my hand up at $200 and you got nobody that can dispute me, no professional engineers, we got a problem, a big problem. And so I want you to consider this, especially that it needs to be done right now because the city is responsible for these dams. The city permitted these illegally, illegally. They should have even had FEMA permitted before they even put them up. And they have put numerous dams. In fact, yes, in this one-third of a mile in Bloody Mary Ditch, we've got five obstructions, intentional obstructions to block the drainage against the city code. Thank you very much.

Thank you, Mr. Johnson. City Clerk?

Tony Cefalo?

In the grand scheme of things, I want to be really petty. The contract would be for $35,000 for the year, not to exceed, and that's $2,500 a month for what? Because that doesn't include photocopying, faxing, postage and courier fees and travel. Isn't that the job of the lobbyist to write letters, to send documents, to go to Tallahassee? Why is that outside of the $2,500 a month that he's being paid? Also, you get the emails from him, so you know what he's doing. I haven't seen anything that the lobbyist has done for us. I think our mayor is a go-getter and has gotten a lot of things. He hubs and knobs with Herodopolis and who else, I have no idea, but he seems to be rather effective. Our vice mayor knows a lot of people. Our board knows a lot of, I mean, you people know a lot of people. Our staff. Brad is very well known throughout the whole state for being a great city planner. I just wonder if it's not superfluous to have a lobbyist. I heard you say it's important. I just wonder why outside of his $2,500 a month does he get to charge you extra for faxing, courier fees, copying documents. That seems to me like that's part of the job. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Fuller. All right, so there's a motion and there's a second. Any further discussion? Seeing none, City Clerk?

Member Nelson? Yes. Mayor Connors?

Yes.

Vice Mayor Cole? Yes. And Member Moscoso?

I'm sorry, could you repeat the motion? I'm so sorry. I'll try.

Do you want me to try or do you want me to try? No, I want to hear what the City Clerk has as the motion. Okay. Okay.

So I had, for Member Nelson, she said prepare an agenda item for next meeting, determine the next projects that we can look at, having our lobbyists help with, and then can make contract more specific. The mayor clarified, have discussion at next meeting to make a list of priorities, and then discuss the contract. Ask staff to make a list of what they think our priorities should be was also added.

Okay, yes, thank you.

She's just a great city clerk. All right, so that motion passed, and we're on to 9A. Yes. She did.

Did Member Moscoso vote?

No. No.

Was that yes or no? Yes. Okay, thank you.

9A. Moving on to 9A, ordinance's second reading. This is the ordinance number 20-2026, pet grooming in neighborhood commercial NC ordinance. And the recommended action is to conduct the second reading and the final public hearing for ordinance 2026 to allow pet grooming in neighborhood commercial zoning district. And Brad will read the ordinance and then answer any questions.

An ordinance of the City of Titusville, Florida amending the Code of Ordinances to allow pet grooming services as a permitted use in a neighborhood commercial NC zoning district by amending sections 28-54 use table and 28-157 pet grooming services providing for severability, repeal of conflicting ordinances, incorporation into the code, and an effective date. I gave you a short presentation on this last first public hearing. I'll try and answer any questions you may have.

Any questions for Mr. Parrish? City Clerk? City Council? Sir? This is a public hearing, so once you're finished speaking, please go fill out a card.

I had a question about what the pet grooming in the neighborhood means. I mean, doesn't everybody groom their pet?

No, this is about allowing commercial.

I don't understand what this means.

So we have a zoning district called Neighborhood Commercial, which is adjacent to more high-intensity commercial.

Oh, there's like an ordinance or something in the neighborhood where it needs to be allowed?

No, there's a zoning district that's commercial that's called Neighborhood Commercial. So it's commercial properties. Currently a vet could go there. A salon could go there. Oh, I see. Okay, yeah.

But a vet salon could not go there. I was confused what it meant. That's all. Okay, thank you.

Happy to help.

Make sure you fill out a card.

Yep. Member Nelson. Move to approve ordinance number 20-2026, pet grooming and NC.

Second. Motion by Member Nelson. Second by Vice Mayor Cole. Any further discussion? Seeing none, City Clerk.

Mayor Connors. Yes. Vice Mayor Cole. Yes. Member Moscoso. Yes. Member Nelson. Yes.

Motion carries.

8B. 9B. 9B is ordinance number 21-2026, recreational and commercial amusement indoor ordinance. And the recommended action is to conduct the second reading and the final public hearing on ordinance 21-2026, recreational and commercial amusement. And Brad will lead the ordinance and answer any questions.

An ordinance of the city of Titusville, Florida, amending the code of ordinances to allow recreation and commercial amusement indoor as a permitted use in the downtown mixed-use DMU zoning district by amending sections 28-54, use table, and 28-275, recreation and commercial amusement indoor, providing for severability, repeal of conflicting ordinances, incorporation into the code, and an effective date. I did provide you a short description of this at your first public hearing. I'll try to answer any questions you have.

Any questions for Mr. Parrish? City Clerk.

One card. It's Susan Canada.

Susan Canada and JoLynn, I hope this answers some of your questions, too. Marina Park was dedicated by the state for public use and will go back to the state if not public. There's a letter on that that your planning and zoning should have seen. Marina Park is part of this area and I'm requesting that it be omitted from this and you can go ahead with the rest of the area. But with Marina Park, it definitely is still under the state. I checked today with the state and they said the last time the amendments for parks had been changed, was in 1949 so there's been no changes since then to allow this. First condos then back to works and we fought for years and voted on a tax and a referendum to have Marina Park redesigned and something the families could enjoy, the boaters could enjoy, people with dogs, it was a dog park. Reverend Clay and Reverend Dames assisted on this. They were all for it. They didn't go to their churches half the time because they were so busy with meetings and everything trying to save that park. There were several of us. I was appointed to the referendum committee by Truman Scarborough to make sure this would go through and the county maintains the park except for the one corner with the ball field and It's needed for expanding the dog park to socialize more the dogs and prevent many of the bites you're starting to get and I don't know if you need County approval to do this since the referendum was through them and since they do manage the park or else if you need state approval to do this the mayor talked about trying to get state approval for this and I don't know if Planning and Zoning is aware of this, but currently this would be included with this. You talked about a restaurant where the office is mayor. You talked about a miniature golf course where the ball field is. There's no parking there when that's busy. You have more boats using it than you realize and more people enjoy it the way it is. But we worked hard for years to keep this a public park. Several years. I worked through two cancer surgeries on it. And being John B. Polk, John Wheeler, several others were there trying to fight this. Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Canada. Just for clarification, this has nothing to do with Marina Park. Miss Canada, it's my turn. Thank you. This is about indoor amusement throughout our city because currently it's pretty much not permitted anywhere except for one tiny little zoning district to allow for recreation for our children. I think it's very common sense. In fact, this ordinance doesn't go far enough, only allowing limited uses in our downtown mixed use. It doesn't permit it in any of the other commercial zoning districts outright. So whether we wanted a sky zone or indoor mini golf course and businesses, we're not talking about the park. Yes, the park is in the downtown mixed use zoning district, but that is city on property. So somebody would have to convince this board to allow them to use that, which is not the case and what is not before us. But again, talking about different ideas, Ms. Canada, I come up with ideas all the time. And I workshop them, talk with people, try to figure out what's the best thing for our next generation. But with that being said, Member Nelson, did you have something?

Yeah, I was going to say, Susan, I think you're looking at 11A. And right now we're on 9B. So, yeah, you got ahead of us.

City Clerk, are there any other cards? No, sir. All right. Any discussion from council? I already kind of said my piece. I think we also need to give staff the direction when we pass this ordinance to look at bringing back other permitted uses throughout our commercial zoning districts, whether it be community commercial, regional commercial, urban village. I mean, I think that there's a lot of more meat on that bone where we can allow for fun things to happen.

Member Nelson. So I move to approve ordinance number 21-2026, recreational and commercial amusement ordinance.

Second.

A motion by Member Nelson, second by Vice Mayor Cole. Any further discussion? City Clerk?

Vice Mayor Cole?

Yes.

Member Moscoso? Yes. Member Nelson? Yes. Mayor Connors?

Yes. Motion carries.

9C? Sir, 9C is ordinance number 20-2026, data centers. And the recommended action is to conduct the second meeting and the final public hearing of ordinance number 22-2026, prohibiting data centers from locating in the city of Titusville. And again, Brad will lead the ordinance and answer any questions.

And the ordinance of the city of Titusville, Florida to establish data centers as a prohibited use by amending sections 28-54 prohibited uses and 37-1 definitions of the Titusville Code of Ordinances providing for severability, repeal of conflicting ordinances, incorporation into the code, and an effective date. Since your last public hearing has been one change based on some questions that you posed to us and questions from the Planning and Zoning Commission, I'm going to point you to page 4. 04 of your agenda packet You will see there in the strike through underlined and underlined that is the new language that is proposed into the ordinance prohibiting data centers into the city The language that is shaded in gray is new, and the term data center does not include, and examples are server rooms, computer rooms, telecommunications rooms, and things of that sort. Just to clarify what this ordinance is not addressing or not prohibiting. In the definition, though, you will see this is a where it says large-scale data centers, that's what will apply. So anything more than the thresholds and descriptions in that definition would be prohibited. Anything less than that, this ordinance does not address. So I do want to point out to you one particular threshold is it states in here that the A large-scale data center means a single location with a data center on site that has an anticipated monthly peak load of 50 megawatts or more in that first sentence in that definition. That's just carried over from the state definition. They adopted definitions last year. That 50 megawatts is fairly large. If you want us to reduce that down to a different threshold, we certainly can. I can suggest 20 megawatts. I can back that up based on literature that we've identified. But so far, this is the ordinance. We do not believe this ordinance would have to be re-advertised if that is your choice.

Thank you. City Clerk?

We have one card. It's Dan Johnston.

I've mentioned about this before, and Herman Cole said some things about it, which I'm not for the data centers, but I believe that what we should list is that when we say that we don't want them or we won't accept them is that we should give the reasons. For example, the quantity of water was just absolutely ridiculous, but what if they used, instead of water they used for cooling, they used liquid nitrogen or something else, other source. So there might be some reasons, and I don't know what to do about the noise and whatever it is that the electromagnetic waves is giving off. But I am not for them, but I am for that if we do make an ordinance against them, which I believe that's what you're doing, is that you itemize them, including the water, whether they're going to use too much water that would make it impossible to accept. That's one of the reasons. So that's all. That's all. Thank you. Thank you for considering this. Thank you, Herman, for what you've said. Thank you, Mr. Johnson. City Clerk?

I do have one additional card. It's Ms. Susan Canada.

Ms. Canada, do you want to talk about the data center ordinance? Thank you. All right. Member Nelson.

I would like to see this changed to 20 megawatts. Talking to Brad, he was pointing out that 50 megawatts would be enough to power 20,000 to 40,000 homes. And I'm like... That just seems enormous to me. And so I'd like to see us back it up to 20 megawatts.

I have a question, a clarifying question, because when I met with Brad and we were discussing this, he said 25 megawatts. So, I mean, what is the number that you said you can rationally justify based on the literature? 20. All right. I just want to make sure it wasn't changing because it felt like it changed on me.

So my motion would be to approve ordinance number 22-2026 on data centers, but to back it down to 20 megawatts.

Second.

Motion by Member Nelson, second by Vice Mayor Cole. Any further discussion? Seeing none, City Clerk.

Member Moscoso? Yes. Member Nelson? Yes. Mayor Connors?

Yes.

Vice Mayor Cole?

Yes. Motion carries. Thank you.

City manager? Yes, sir. Moving on to ordinance number 29. 28-2026 live work units in the office. And this is a first reading and the first of two public hearings on the ordinance. And Brad will leave the ordinance for the record.

An ordinance of the city of Titusville, Florida amending the code of ordinances to allow live work units in the office professional OP zoning district by amending sections 28-54 use table and 28-73 live work unit. providing for severability, repeal of conflicting ordinances, incorporation into the code, and an effective date. Currently, this zoning district does allow single-family detached homes. Primarily, it's for office use only in the zoning district itself, but does, in addition to that, allow for a single-family home. It does not allow the combination of those two uses in the same building with a shared access point. There is an illustration in your packet that to give you some idea of what this is trying to address. And that is on page 426 of your packet. Basically, you can have a residential unit on top or behind an office with a shared doorway, shared stairwell, whatever that might be. And that would be permitted in the zoning district. I'll try to answer any questions you have.

Seeing none, city clerk.

No cards.

Thank you, city staff, city manager.

So moving on to E, ordinance number 29-2026, mini warehouse and parking. And this is to conduct the first reading and the first of two public hearings on ordinance 29-2026, mini warehouse parking standards. Again, Brad, read the ordinance.

In the ordinance of the City of Titusville, Florida, amending the Code of Ordinances to delete specific parking standards for Mini Warehouses by amending Section 28-214 Mini Warehouse, providing for severability, repeal of conflicting ordinances, incorporation into the Code, and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of this. Basically, just to give you an understanding, there's a special condition specifically for mini-warehouse. We have currently in our code minimum parking standards for a variety of general uses, such as industrial warehouse, commercial, retail, restaurant, whatnot. But specifically for mini-warehouse, there's a separate condition. I believe it's one space per 25 people. storage units plus office manager spaces. It does come out to be quite a few parking spaces that generally are not used. So you have given us direction previously to come back to you with recommendations for changes to the code to make things a little easier. This is one of them that we want to suggest to you. If this is approved, then the minimum standards that we currently have, standards for warehouse or industrial uses would apply, which would be a lot less than what is required currently. With that, I'll try to answer any questions you have.

Member Nelson. I would ask that we think about this. One of the justifications for doing this is to give more open space, but if we turn around and say you only need X amount of parking spaces, instead of X plus, and we just increase the amount of storage, then we really aren't creating extra open space and trees. So my thought is if we're going to decrease the amount of parking spaces, that should increase the amount of open space in the area. So that was my only thought as I was going through because I'm like, if we're saying that we're doing this to increase the amount of open space, but we turn around and take that open space and make it into an extra three storage units, we really haven't accomplished what our goal is.

City Clerk? I think the other challenge we have with this is if we don't do this, now we just have more concrete and impervious pavement running around that nobody's using. So I think it is a catch-22, but at the end of the day, I think the more we can decrease our impervious pavement, the better off we are. So that's kind of my first thought. But we're just on our first reading. Okay.

Just be aware that if you do ask us to make changes, such as what was being suggested here, we believe it would require this ordinance to be re-advertised because the way it's titled right now, it's eliminating a condition, which you're potentially asking us to do is to add a new condition or replace or amend an existing condition. That would require it to be re-advertised.

Okay.

Okay. We'll just go into our second public hearing and see what happens because we've already advertised it.

All right. City manager? Yes, sir. Moving on to item 10, ordinance's first reading. Both A and B are quasi-judicial, so the city attorney will read the rules for that procedure before moving on to the items.

During the public portion of the meeting, anyone wishing to speak on a quasi-judicial item must complete and sign a speaker card along with the corresponding oath on the card. The cards are located on the table in front of the chambers. City staff will make the initial presentation and then the applicant will present. Then the hearing will be open for public comments and those who wish to make a public comment on the item will speak third. The applicant may make a brief rebuttal if they desire. Witnesses? may be cross-examined and all photographs, sketches, or documents for the hearing must be submitted to the city clerk and will be retained by the city. Members, council members, please disclose any ex parte communication or site visits at this time.

Member Moscoso.

None.

Member Nelson. None. Vice Mayor Cole. None. I have talked with the applicant of, hold on, what number are we on? 10A, and I have gone up there and seen it, but it doesn't affect my ability to be impartial. Mr. Parrish?

I'll read the ordinance. An ordinance of the City of Titusville, Florida amending ordinance number 5-1993 by amending the zoning map made part of said ordinance by reference by changing the zoning classification on property located at 1915 North Singleton Avenue from single family medium density R1B to general use GU on seven and a half plus or minus acres of property having parcel ID number 21-35-20-00-535, providing for severability, repeal of conflicting ordinances, and providing for an effective date. I can give you a brief description of what this is. This is a first reading. Your public hearing is not until later this month. Basically, this... application is to rezone a parcel of property on the north part of the city on Parrish and Singleton to allow an agricultural use. GU is a general use zoning district that does allow agricultural uses in the city. We have several properties in the city that do have that zoning district. A variety of different types of agricultural uses and other uses that may be allowed in that zoning district. It is a holding category zoning district. So if you do approve in the end the request to rezone this property, you'll be down zoning the property from a residential zoning to a lower scale type of zoning district that will allow agriculture, which currently is not permitted on the property now. The staff report does have an aerial in there, which I'll just point to you briefly on page 442 of your packet. You'll see the location of the property. Two things you should be aware of. This property was annexed into the city with a rezoning, with a condition that was very specific to this parcel and to the parcel to the north of it. that had a condition of a maximum of 50 units only, which if it didn't have that condition, it could have had more units or more of a bigger subdivision potentially on this large parcel. So it's maxed out to 50. However, the request to you tonight and your subsequent meeting is to consider only half of this parcel. It does not address those 50 units. So if this is approved eventually, we're not sure how to answer that question as to how that would be resolved potentially. So that's one concern that the staff has. The other one is we did provide in our staff report our analysis. We did have some questions about this rezoning. I'll try and answer anything that you may have about that. But we'll give you a better presentation on this at your public hearing.

Thank you, city staff, city clerk.

Stan Johnston. And then Al Barrett.

I listened to this in the PNZ. I know this area well. I used to pass by it quite often. It's a farm. And in our location, we're looking at how to help the city out with stormwater. Once again, we're back to stormwater. If we allow the units to come in, which we're not talking about today, but if we do, then we've got problems again. If we keep it like it is, then we're doing the city a favor. The rain comes down, it's not going on cement, it's not going on anything else, it's going into the ground. We help the ground if we have organisms or organic material. Guess what? I used to work on a farm. Animals are great in preparing that land. Like I said, I listened to the PNZ. All of them loved this idea. They loved it. They said it. They only had questions. that couldn't be answered, and you heard that those questions are gonna be answered on September 22nd. So I hope that you guys look at this, ask questions, and hear what a great opportunity we have in this city of doing that. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. City Clerk? Thank you very much. All right, we're on to our next item. You definitely have that right, but, you know, no decisions are going to be made here tonight.

Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.

Now, I do have a question. How long are you planning on presenting for?

Yeah, I'm just going to brief summary on this one. Just because we are still waiting on questions from planning to be able to answer those questions. We've sent a couple of emails now requesting what they're looking for in addition to the last pending. So what I mean, we still have not gotten those answers yet of what they want. So we're kind of still pending all that stuff. I don't know if the PowerPoint's right. Give me a second.

Thank you.

All right, so it seems like we had a little bit of technical difficulty, so no PowerPoint here. But yeah, so I'm just going to go quick over it. So we're an organic pasture-raised regenerative and sustainable farm. We moved up from West Palm Beach and we moved up into this community. That was a great opportunity for us to help. provide sustainable agriculture here in Titusville. And so basically, I have here on this first photo from that pamphlet there that I handed. So some of the stuff that's been presented by Planning and Zoning so far hasn't actually been updated to what the current PLANS ARE. SO IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF DOCUMENTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE NOW, THEY STILL HAVEN'T BEEN UPDATED TO THE APPROPRIATE APPLICATION DOCUMENTS THERE. BUT THIS IS THE MOST CURRENT HERE, SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO PROVIDE THIS TO YOU GUYS TODAY. SO THAT WAY YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF THAT. WE ARE We have all the site plans done. I think one of the biggest concerns was the buffer. So the only limitation in the GU agricultural pursuit is a 50-foot setback. It's very specific to that. We've laid that out in our conditional spaces use and proposed conceptual site plan. And then the other thing is because we're a farm, we didn't want to push so much on having every cornerstone set down exactly where it's going to go on the property. It's not a commercial building. It's not a warehouse or anything like that. These things do move, especially we have mobile coops. We have buildings. We have crops that rotate. We move electrical fencing around as we're moving livestock and moving crops and those kinds of things. So if we were, you know, I think one of the big things that planning and zoning was bringing up was that they wanted to see more detail in that. But in the aspect of what we're doing on a farm, that's near impossible. And then from what I'm understanding as well is that if we do define exactly where everything is going to be at all times, we would have to come back for a major rezoning or rework there. Maybe I can help you out with the correct terminology there, but that's not something that we're going to want to set into every time we go to move a fence, right, or move one of our agricultural buildings. So I know that was one of the issues I think that was quasi-brought up, but it wasn't necessarily. I think we answered that, the planning and zoning as well. And then the other thing I really wanted to get into here is part of what we are doing is part of the 2023 sustainable action plan where I know you guys are trying to bring agriculture back into the zoning. I don't know if there's been any action items or any calls of action that have been done to bring agricultural into the city of Ticeville as of today. I mean, that's a question you guys might be able to answer.

This is your time.

Right. Okay. So that's one thing that we are. We're kind of going into that sustainable action plan, which is part of what you guys were looking to do, right? So we're able to push that forward as well. And I know one of the big things here, too, today that's been talked over and over and over is the flooding issues. We do have those flooding issues around us. And our farm, because it is permeable land, and we continue to grow the topsoil and the means of agriculture that we do with the sustainable and regenerative farming practices, that we actually build the topsoil more and more and more. And as we do that, we get to retain more water and prevent further flooding issues in the alternative of putting 43 homes or 50 homes on the property and one of the things that was brought up here I Bradley is that the parcel number is a two-step from parcel numbers When it was changed over in 2004, it was originally a farm. It was pastured land So when it got brought into the city, it was then rezoned to residential I'm not outside of the accordance with you know the county and state what it was already recognized as prior to being brought into the city and So it has always been used to the farm. There's been horses on it. We have documentation. We've got photos. That's also in that packet as well. So those are the kind of things that I just wanted to bring up. And then if you guys have any questions for me that I might be able to address during 22nd. All right, Mr. Kosovo.

Sorry, my question is more for Brad, but you might be able to chime in as well. It said that you, because this was a split parcel, and it said that you tried to contact the owner to the north because it will affect the amount of units. I kind of looked up who the owner was, and I think he actually attended your meeting that you had. It's Robert Molitere.

Yeah, so the meeting, but he never showed up to any of these, and then we've been trying to contact them since to get a letter. I do know he has already attempted to transfer his land to agricultural residential, but because there isn't the zoning in the city, they went to the same avenue that I'm taking right now, the GU Agricultural Pursuit. And he just kind of gave up on it.

Well, that was like my only concern is that we are able to at least get his consent and have a letter or something stating that he's okay with this.

Yeah. I own my property. He owns his property. These are two different properties. So I know that there might be a misconception there when this was done 25 years ago. I think the simple solution here is that if it was 50 homes, then it's 25 and 25, right? We don't plan on ever developing it. I intend to keep it a farm for 100 years. So for me, that's not a concern. He wants all 50 units and you guys want to do it that way or just split it down the half? I think that's something that he'd be interested in doing. I do also know, speaking with him directly, is that if this gets turned to GU and it automatically turns his property to GU to represent both properties as the same, he would be happy to not have to go through this process and get it automatically done. He has expressed that as well.

I just think we need to have something in writing more than a gentleman's agreement because in 20 years, somebody else is going to come up with this property and say, what happened here? How did we get here? How come I don't have the available units that I maybe had before?

Yeah, and so some of my concern that got brought up with planning and zoning, too, about that was that we went – I think the property was split back in 2017, and it's been almost 10 years because it was split and then different owners, right? That it's been almost 10 years. The only reason this is even identified now is because I'm changing it to GU, that this wasn't handled by – the city of Titusville back the year that it was split. I know there was an issue where you only have to get approval from county. Those issues were part of the city at some point, but that had dropped from what I understand. You used to have to get city approval before you could split the property and all the rest of that. Now, that had gotten washed away or whatever. But it's gone 10 years without the city knowing that that's happened on the property and not already had dealing with this because it could be another 40 years and nobody wouldn't have known about it. So I'm not quite sure why that wasn't handled by staff, you know, towards that time or some sort of review annually that would have identified that issue.

I think he sits on one of our boards, so it should be pretty easy to get his, I just think from a legal perspective, I'd like to hear your opinion on this.

Sure, and we have talked about this, Brad and I, at length. We have notified the adjacent property owner, but his consent or his agreement is not necessary or needed or required, actually, from a legal perspective regarding this gentleman who's his own private property owner.

Right. Yeah, so sorry that was, like, misconstrued the wrong way. Like, it was two separate parcel orders. So, thank you. Anything else? May I have a bill of adjustment for 20 seconds?

Thank you, sir.

All right, appreciate it. Thank you.

Mr. Parrish, did you have anything? Okay.

All right, that was the first reading of that ordinance. City Manager. So moving on to 10B, rezoning application number 4-2026-527, Indian. River Avenue and the recommended action is to conduct the first reading of ordinance number 31-2026 and rezoning application number 4-2026 from the multifamily high density residential R3 to the residential historic preservation RHP zoning district of property located at 527 Indian River Avenue. Brad will read the ordinance.

An ordinance amending ordinance number 5-1993 of the City of Titusville, Florida by amending the zoning map made part of said ordinance by reference by changing the zoning classification on property located at 527 Indian River Avenue for multifamily high density residential R3. to residential historic preservation, RHP, on half an acre, plus or minus, of property, having a parcel ID number 22-35-03-04-star-2, providing for severability, repeal of conflicting ordinances, and providing for an effective date. Just to orient you, the property is immediately to the southeast of this building. It's along the river. It was currently zoned for multifamily. property. The structure was demolished and they cannot rebuild a detached single family home until they have the appropriate zoning on there. We'll give you a fuller description in our presentation at the public hearing later this month. I'll try to answer any questions you have.

Council?

City Clerk? City Manager? Yes, sir. Moving on to item 11, old business, the Titusville Municipal Marine Expanded Activity and Use Considerations. And I'm going to defer to the city attorney's office as this is their agenda item.

This is an update. We provided, the city attorney's office provided an updated memo given that we had gotten some directive from council on the July 14th meeting and we provided the update as to what the next steps are if council wants to proceed as it relates to renegotiation of the lease and dedication that currently stands on the property. So the ball's in your hands. council's court. Again, there's no decision that needs to be made. We just wanted you to be aware of the next steps and provide any direction or directive in the future how you want us to proceed.

Thank you, City Attorney. City Clerk.

Two cards. Susan Canada.

Mayor Connors, oh, Susan Canada. Mayor Connors, you've stated you talk to a lot of people, so do I. The one thing that people want to see that go to that park and use it is more parking because they're short of it, especially during boating season. And also, they want to use the empty lot that's just there, the ball field, and use it as a dog park until something else comes about or whatever. But right now, there isn't enough room for the many dogs that show up there. If you go different hours, you'll see, especially mornings, they're crowded out and they're going to the ball field anyhow. It would be nice if they were actually allowed to be there instead of one minute they go in and the next minute they're kicked out. And this way it socialized more dogs. You said you're interested in children. It cut down on the bites a lot of the children are getting right now. Especially if a dog gets loose, which they seem to be missing at all times lately. The dog may be well trained then. You could even offer training classes there and make some money off that if you wanted to. I don't care. But all I know is this was a referendum issue, and we worked hard to get that park designed. It was supposed to stay public. You brought up about trying to get the state to change that at one time. Do you still plan on doing that?

That's what's before our council right now.

Well, all I'm saying is a lot of people gave a lot of time from the two reverends to B. Polk, Joan Wheeler, myself, and several others that served on committees for this. There's uses that really could go in there, but right now it's so crowded you don't really have the room for it. If you want to put the restaurant in the office like you talked about, I don't care, but I don't know where the people are going to park. But as far as the rest of it, That was people's tax money that paid for that referendum to fix that up. It's the wrong thing to do. Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Canada. City Clerk?

The last card is Elizabeth Baker.

Hello, everyone. Titusville is obviously growing. Some would say a little too rapidly. Some would agree that they like the pace. And the decisions that we make today about the Titusville Marina and surrounding parks will definitely shape our city's identity for future generations. And we cannot afford to get this wrong. We love our waterfront. It's where families gather. It's where kids play. Visitors fall in love with our city there. The truth is commercialization isn't always progress. It can be a shortcut that often leads to overcrowding, pollution, and a loss of what makes small cities like Titusville special. Arguments of it'll bring jobs and it'll attract tourists, but at what cost? What... impact to the lagoon. Titusville has a quiet charm that even some of you moved here for. And we want to keep it. And we need to ask ourselves, what are we truly valuing here? Do we want a vibrant, sustainable waterfront that serves all residents? Or do we want a commercialized strip that only benefits a few? The original dedication for that Marina Park property was for public recreational use, not for chain restaurants or event venues that turn our parks into tourist traps. And we have to talk about the Indian River Lagoon. It's already struggling. We can't add more pollution, more runoff, more habitat destruction in the name of development. We might bring more visitors, but we have to do this as responsibly as we possibly can with safeguards to protect our water, our wildlife, and our way of life. So I am asking anything that we do that even hints at overdevelopment, say no. Keep the marina and our parks free and accessible and focused on our community, not profit. An environmental impact assessment before any changes are ever made to these parks or to our waterfront has to be done, especially when Sorrel is asking for that half-cent tax again. People are already strained. We cannot afford to mess this up and be adding more pollution into that river. Another concern is that osprey plant. Until that is completely up to date, we need to be sure that anything surrounding that area could not possibly expose another child to sewage.

Thank you. Thank you very much. City Clerk, any other cards? So obviously, you know, I brought this up because I think it's important that we address recreation for our kids. The city has no money to create spaces or invest capital into our parks. In fact, I think the Parks Department has a hard time doing that. And we have a few unique resources available to us, which is our city-owned marina, which is on a land lease deal and currently unable to really commercialize down there for families to go down there. And I think that's really important is that more families be able to go into our parks. It's not just one cookie cutter size fit all for the entire city. There's a lot of different needs and wants out there. And I understand dog parks are very important. But there's other aspects to a community as well. And I think what we're doing today is if we give direction for us to continue this conversation is providing the ability to us to take a look at any one of these opportunities that could come before us. And at the end of the day, that's all we need is an opportunity to. And even as Ms. Canada agreed, a restaurant at the marina is not the worst idea because people come off their boats and they want a place to eat. And even if you're down there with your dog, you might want a place to stop and have a drink and eat an appetizer while you walk your dog around. It's not the worst idea. There actually used to be a restaurant over there. And it was probably one of the most popular restaurants in Titusville back in the day. And I think, you know, as we look forward, we've got to think about what's holding us back and the fact that we don't have a dolphin scene tour coming out of our marina, charter boat captain, you know, paddle boat, kayak rentals. I think those are really important things that are not really just tourism drivers because, let's be honest, tourists don't come north of 405 here in Titusville at this point. It's about recreation for our families and for the next generation of kids that we want to stay here. So I think it's important that we continue the conversation. Nothing is being decided. We're not building anything today. We just need the opportunity to really activate that space in a very positive way. Member Nelson.

I was going to say I agree with you. I don't want to see our parks crowded. big chain restaurants there anything like that i would love personally to be able to go to the marina rent a kayak and take off easy yeah let me just rent a kayak i can paddle up and down the river um But I don't think right now we can do those things. So I understand what you're saying, but I would like to see us at least be able to do those kind of things. I'd say a paddleboard, but probably would kill myself. So maybe not a paddleboard, kayak, rowboat, even a boat tour.

Please, you do not have the floor. Member Nelson has the floor. Please have it. I'm going to have to ask you to leave. If you do not, call them to order.

So, at any rate, those kind of things I would like to see us at least explore. Member Moscoza.

Thank you. This feels like there's a lot of history that you've kind of told us about. And it feels like a really big deal. And I know that this is just the conversation. But perhaps it's something we could advertise and have a workshop so we could have people in the community come out and tell us. I mean, it's their park. Tell us what they want to see in the park. What you know, if it's. families want more activities or perhaps people who worked really hard to preserve it and we could kind of just workshop together and come up with some ideas and so that's kind of where where I am I want to hear from what the community and I really want to know a little bit more of the history and how it got to to there before any decisions are made well I think we can do both

I think we can continue the conversation with the state because, again, we still haven't finalized anything. They might not let us change the terms to our in perpetuity land lease that was written in, what, 1948? Thereabouts. While the city staff works on that, we can have a workshop. We can talk about what people want to see in their parks because at the end of the day, if you want any of these things to come to the parks, we've got to figure out what it is and how much it's going to cost and how do we move that needle.

Where does what go? Yeah.

But again, no decisions have been made about exactly what it is. I think just clearing this first hurdle so that we can have a conversation is important because the state might come back and say, no, you're not allowed to do any of these things, and then it's all for naught. But at the end of the day, if we can't at least be able to do some things down there, it's like there's really no point of a workshop. Member Moscoso.

Can you, this might be for the city attorney, explain the process of reaching out to the state and what that looks like? Do we have to have a plan set in motion?

Yes. I'll just give you the summary points. First, we would have to provide and include detailed description of the desired use on the Marina Park property in the Titusville Marina. So we would have to present the state with some detailed description of what we want to do. or office can then, the city attorney, once council decides what that detailed plan is, the city attorney's office can take that proposal and submit it to the division staff of the Board of Trustees. After review of the division staff, a formal item will be prepared and presented to the Board of Trustees. So the first step would be for council to have a specific detailed plan as to what you want to present to the board.

It was my understanding, City Attorney, based on how I read the memo, is if we had our ideas, kind of like what was presented by the Assistant City Attorney, these are the types of things we would like to see, that would be enough for us to take it to the Department or Board of Trustees.

Sure. The attachment of the examples were sort of like ideas, but as detailed, the representative that we spoke with said as detailed a plan as possible would always be a better way to go.

Understandable. Member Moscoso.

Yeah, I personally would say I'd like to have a workshop first and see if the people even want this before we move forward with the state and just getting their ideas because maybe they do and they'll add additional ideas or things than what we want. And so I would kind of like to go that route first. I mean, I don't know if this is a time-sensitive thing. I mean, it doesn't seem like it.

No, it's just government moves slow. I think I brought up this idea six months ago. Actually, a year and a half ago, but whatever.

Well, I think the first hurdle was no one knew whether we could renegotiate the lease and or the dedication, and now we're hearing yes, we can. At this point in time, the council would have to give the direction as to what ideas, it could be more than one perhaps, that you would want to present to the Board of Trustees that you would like in that space.

All righty. Well, I'll entertain any sort of motion, but I think it's probably good for us to put it on our agenda to talk about what sort of ideas we would like to see and at least have that conversation amongst ourselves, and then we can work on additional details. So I'll make that motion. Okay. And I think that will give us plenty of time to go out into the community and get some feedback if you want to schedule it out, I don't know, two months. Does that make sense? Three months? It doesn't matter to me. But I think at the end of the day, you know, that's our job is to talk to people and get feedback and ideas and have that conversation. Two months. All right.

Did you say three? I was being smart. Okay.

It doesn't matter to me. Again, it's not time sensitive. All right. There's a motion to put an agenda item on our agenda in two months so we can have the conversation. There's a motion by Member Nelson. Second. Second by Vice Mayor Cole. Member Moscoso.

Can we add a workshop into that? I just want to give people the opportunity that you know different people than I know people. I mean, we all will reach out to different people, whether, I mean, it might be 10 people that show up, but at least say we've had the opportunity for you to come and share your ideas. I think that would be useful and helpful, at least for me.

It's counsel's prerogative.

Can we add that to the motion, please?

I think we can add that to the motion. I think we could turn around and instead of doing a 530 meeting... presentations. We get to do 5.30 to 6.30. Workshop kind of.

So you're saying to amend the motion where one of our special presentations meetings at 5.30 would be a workshop on our parks and the activation there?

I accept that for a second.

And then after that said meeting, we would have an agenda item to discuss the results.

I think as Canada would like to be recognized...

Well, I apologize. She already had her time. We're making a motion right now. So there's a motion by Member Nelson to amend one of our special presentations meeting in a couple months to do a workshop on the parks and what we would like to see. And honestly, it could be all the parks for that matter. I think that's a fair conversation to have. And then afterwards, we'll have an agenda item to discuss the results and feedback of that. That was motioned by Member Nelson, seconded by Vice Mayor Cole. Any further discussion?

Yes.

I mean, you got your workshop.

Yeah, but it's not really a workshop. It's just a presentation.

No, it's a workshop.

So people will have more than three minutes if they want to speak? Yeah.

I mean, it's going to last about an hour, but yeah.

Okay, so as long as it's not just a 5.30 presentation that people can really get up, I mean, I think, okay.

So the goal was not to add an additional meeting, but to replace a meeting with a workshop.

Okay. Can we see the format of the workshop?

I assume it would be a single-item presentation or workshop. That full hour would be just devoted to this topic, no other presentations? Yes. Is that what I'm hearing?

So everybody's clear on what's happening? There's a motion by Member Nelson and a second by Vice Mayor Cole. Any further discussion? City Clerk.

Member Nelson? Yes. Mayor Connors? Yes. Vice Mayor Cole?

Yes.

Member Moscoso? Yes.

Motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much. City Manager.

If I may, Mayor?

To the attorney.

Sorry. If I may, I just wanted to clarify to make sure that we have provided the legal analysis workshops and future agenda items will be prepared by the city manager or on the agenda, correct?

Yes. Okay. That's my understanding as well, yes.

I just wanted to make sure, even though we had it on the old business from the city attorney's office that moving forward we're no longer going to be presenting this on the agenda.

Yes, you did your part.

Thank you.

Thank you very much. Manager moving on to new business 12 a is resolution number 21 dash 2026 Canvassing the returns of the primary election and the recommended action is to approve resolution number 21 dash 2026 Canvassing the returns of the primary election on August 18th 2026 for the office of City Council seats numbers 1 and 5 Thank You City Clerk City Council

Move to approve resolution number 21-2026, canvassing the returns.

Second. A motion by Member Nelson, a second by Vice Mayor Cole. Any further discussion? City Clerk.

Mayor Connors. Yes. Vice Mayor Cole. Yes. Member Moscoso. Yes. Member Nelson. Yes.

Motion carries.

City Manager. So moving on to item 12B, piggyback contract for fire prevention services. And the recommended action is to approve the piggyback contract and the use of outsourcing for fire prevention services. As you recall, during the budget hearings, we were exploring various options to further reduce staffing FTE as well as outsourcing or privatizing services for more efficient delivery for municipal services. And Chief Hostiles has been working very diligently on an opportunity to outsource the fire prevention services for FTE savings of four, as well as improving the efficiency of services. I'm going to go ahead and turn it over to the Chief to answer any questions regarding this agenda item. Chief, anything to say?

I can answer any questions.

All right. City Council. City Clerk. City Council.

Move to approve the piggyback contract for fire prevention services. Second.

A motion by Member Nelson, second by Vice Mayor Cole. Any further discussion? Seeing none, City Clerk.

Vice Mayor Cole? Yes. Member Moscoso? Yes. Member Nelson? Yes. Mayor Connors?

Yes. Motion carries. Thank you very much. All right, we're on to item 13, petitions or requests from the public, non-agenda items. Not seeing any. Were you coming up here? Okay. I said, yeah. I said not seeing anything. I thought you were walking out. So I just want to make sure I didn't miss you.

I couldn't stand up quickly. I want to talk about the internal auditor's report that accompanies the city manager report coming up. The audit found that former deputy chief Hutchinson's wife owned a primary uniform vendor, Blue Line Innovations, and raised concerns about unethical vendor selection. Since he no longer works for TPD, he would like to know what steps the city is taking to address these conflicts of interest and ensure that that doesn't happen again. Will there be an independent review? The audit also found $20,679 in centennial badges were purchased outside the approved contract, and there's no documentation for other purchases between $5,000 and $15,000. Who approved these purchases? And why was proper documentation missing? Shouldn't this be investigated further? The audit found that inventory records were incomplete. No one tracks uniform replacements and physical counts are not saved. How can the city justify spending taxpayer money on uniforms if they can't even track them? I believe this should be fixed immediately. The audit also found weak controls over take-home vehicles, including missing mileage logs and no signed agreements. Could these failures have contributed to the increase in insurance premiums for automobiles? And shouldn't the city review vehicle policies to prevent future cost hikes? The city is going to be hiring a new police chief. Will they be required to implement the audit's recommendations, including fixing conflicts of interest, improving inventory controls, and ensuring proper procurement practices? And how will the public know what's happening? The audit also lists multiple recommendations to fix these issues. What is the timeline for implementing these changes? And how will the public be updated on the progress? Will there be a follow-up report in the next few months? I know that was a lot of questions, but I hope that you will take them into consideration. The public does deserve to know. Thank you.

Thank you very much. Anybody else for petitions or requests? Non-agenda items? Seeing none. Moving into council reports. Member Moscoso.

Yes, I just wanted to bring up what Mr. Wright talked about. I'm just going through his email, developers facing economic hardships, if that's something we would like to put on the agenda. I personally don't have a lot of information on it, but I don't want to ignore his request, but I would like more information on it and see if that's something you guys would like to discuss.

Well, I think the question before us is two years' ample time to go from site plan to construction.

Yeah, and I don't know that because I haven't had any information on that. So I'm kind of asking if staff could maybe brief me, or I just think it would be good information. I don't know if it's a policy question that we look at, but I'm asking for more information on that. Because what happens if we don't, he has to go through the whole process again?

Well, there's a way to extend it, which is what he did, which is pick up a building permit. Once he has a building permit, there's built-in extensions in the building permit process.

Okay.

There's just not that in the site plan process. And I can imagine they did that because they didn't want people with open construction sites for more than two years.

Is that?

That's my recollection. Several years ago, it used to be only a year with a special request to extend it with City Council's approval. And Council approved an ordinance to grant automatic two years expiration without any additional request or ability to ask for additional extensions. So the mayor is correct, though, that you do have a site plan that's going to expire within a certain amount of time. You can't extend it by proving it with continuous construction and issuance of building permits. All of that gets extended.

And do you see his issue as a hardship where...

I don't know what Mr. Wright's specific hardship is. I just know that we didn't have an option for him in the city's code for what he was asking for.

So what would you recommend? I mean, how do we handle this situation? We want to be able to help him. We want it to move forward, but I feel like we're kind of stuck here.

The only way to do that is with the city council asking us to draft an ordinance. And just bear in mind, though, that when you do that, it can't be tailored to any particular project. So anyone else that may have a site plan that's open could potentially qualify, depending on whatever criteria you put in place.

Okay.

Vice Mayor. My problem with extending it is the fact that I put a shovel in the ground in 2026. or I have fencing around a property that's an eyesore that you see every day and no one sees anything going on out there, that would be my objection to extending it for longer than two years. So just because if nothing's done out there, you know what it looks like when you drive by and you don't see anything going on. I think two years should be ample time for someone to, if they've applied and they've got a site plan approval, it should be ample time for them to do it.

Any other discussion? Does that conclude your report? Member Nelson?

I'm happy. Yay.

I mean, that sounded sarcastic, but it was a genuine yay for you. Is there anything else?

I have five more meetings.

All right. Vice Mayor Cole?

I'm good.

Thank you. All right. I just have one item. It's on the agenda. Request to do a proclamation at the next special presentation and recognitions meeting for Suicide Prevention Month. Can I have a motion to approve that? Move to approve.

Second.

I have a motion. I have a second. Any cards on this item? All right. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. City Manager, your report. Yes, sir.

The only item is the internal auditor's report. It was already mentioned at petitions. And just to answer two of the questions that were raised, one, the ethics question was referred to the state and they are conducting an investigation and I have heard nothing back from them and also each of the recommendations contained in the report have a management response and this will be posted on the city's website and just as we did with the previous field ops in a few months we'll send up another follow-up to ensure that we are taking positive action to address all the issues identified in the report. And also the internal auditor is currently working on a take-home vehicle audit, which will encompass some of the issues raised regarding the take-home vehicle issued to one of the Titusville Police support staff. That's all I have. Actually, too, we need to get counsel to agree or disagree on whether to have a meeting for the second meeting in December. Historically, you cancel the second meeting right before Christmas, and we're asking for action on that cancellation. Member Nelson.

So move to cancel that second meeting in December.

Second.

I believe that is December 22nd. That is correct, sir. Motion by Member Nelson and second by Vice Mayor Cole to cancel December 22nd meeting. I'm assuming there's no cards on this. Does anybody want to speak on this item? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. All right. Does that conclude your report? Yes, sir. City Attorney? I'm not here. All right. With that being said, I will entertain a motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn. We're adjourned.