Village Council - Regular Meeting

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The chair will answer.

Thank you. . . . .

Thank you. Do we have quorum? Yes, we do. We're ready to go. So we can start moving.

And just as an FYI, Mr. Chair, we do have members of the public here. I know we always ask for public comment, but often they're not. Okay, great.

Excellent.

That's right. We also want to welcome our new member here to the city, replacing Dwight. Dwight went on to, I guess, a more relaxed life, no? Welcome.

Welcome. Thank you.

So, Susan? Yes. We need a motion. Motion. Motion. I would motion to approve. Second.

Aye.

Okay. All those in favor, aye.

Aye.

Aye. Minutes approved.

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Not here. I do not.

I'm seeing three no's. So, Mr. Clerk, if you could please swear in anyone who wishes to be heard today.

Good afternoon. All those who will be providing testimony, please raise your right hand and repeat after me. I'll ask, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Thank you.

Very well. So do we have anyone for 200 ball bay here? Okay. Are you ready, 2%? Yes? Okay. All right. You're up. Stand on the podium. State your name for the record. And we're going to put the PowerPoint in the screen. And you've got the pointer. So a building official shall read his report. Yes.

So, basically, we received the written confirmation that they acknowledge the eating conditions and they're in agreement with it. It's my opinion that the proposed revision for the 200-mile bay drive follows the Village Appearance Code and zoning ordinance, and the Village Planning and Zoning Consultants has also reviewed it and also complies with all the code requirements.

Thank you for that. All right. So, state your name for the record. Yes.

Good afternoon. My name is Brett Lowman. You're welcome. So this project, 200 Bell Bay, was originally approved back in 2023, and it's been undergoing construction for the last few years. And in construction, both the owner and the design team have seen some opportunities for updates and improvements to the overall site plan, as well as certain architectural features. So what's being presented today is the overall site plan, which I can present just briefly, and then a series of renderings. And originally when we had presented this project, we had a series of exterior renderings going around the perimeter of the property. So I've supplied those. I've also provided updated renderings so we can see what was previously approved versus what's being proposed right now. So on the overall site plan, just a few things that are being updated. And I'll point here up in the green, starting at the northwest corner or upper right of the plan. Originally, that was more of a site circulation space. And what we've done here is to provide a flat grass area. And as we work around the perimeter of the property, we've been identifying and looking at view corridors for trees, palm trees, larger specimen trees. And so you'll see in the renderings, we've got the before and after shots just showing the overall updated landscaping scheme. As we work our way around the site, there's now being an outdoor barbecue area, which originally was part of the garden before. So we're presenting an outdoor pet area, which you'll see in one of the exterior renderings. And as we work around as well, the site circulation towards the northeast corner of the property, which is on the lower plan right, is being reconfigured to be more efficient. as well as better circulation just for staff parking, exterior work services. But it's all going to be sheltered by hedging and landscaping from the streets. So this area highlights the overall main level floor plan and there's three features that I want to identify that are being updated from the previously approved project. So the first one starting at the upper right, originally within that massing we had an exterior stair tower Since this project has gone underway, we realized that the better function for this massing, which remains consistent with the footprint from the previously approved, is better used as a storage condition as opposed to an exterior stair, which is not needed. The second area is this entry vestibule, which originally the glass line had run all the way across, but we've decided to pull out and create more of an experiential quality for the entry vestibule itself, which you'll see in some of the renderings.

Could I just ask you a question? Yes. And I don't know if this was a requirement from the city. It should have been. Do you have an exhibit of how the project was approved? and how you're modifying so we could track that. Right now you're just giving us a description. We're having to imagine how it was approved, which really I don't think is the most efficient way of doing this. Does the city have that requirement when we have a house like this as a scale that's already significantly built and now they're coming in here with revisions? Do you request that they present it in a way that shows us how it was approved and how it's being modified?

Yes.

And they didn't follow that. Unfortunately. They didn't follow that, right?

The plans are so big that that's what they submitted. But there's like no clouding.

There's like no visual aid to understand what is really being changed. So it puts us in a difficult position. Are you an attorney, an architect, an owner's rep?

I'm an owner's rep.

Okay. So you understand my concern, right? I mean, right now we're just trying to imagine how we approved this thing like three years ago, right?

I do understand. Yes, when this was first submitted, I had clouded the areas that I'm pointing to. It was asked to remove the clouds. To remove the clouds.

Okay. All right, but beyond the clouds, it's always like, okay, this was the original plan, and then you go to the next slide, this is how we change it. And you go back and forth, and then we understand the evolution of a very significant project, right? So right now we're kind of navigating on the blind, okay? Just a thought, okay?

Okay.

So I'll proceed. I'm sorry, but I had to say that because, you know, this comes up. You know, we approve large homes, and then they come back three years later, and we need to understand what has happened. There's always a process, you know.

Understood. I appreciate that comment. The last on this plan is this footprint here. Originally, it was proposed as covered parking. So since the originally approved, we are now enclosing this space as an enclosed garage.

So it went from a carport to an enclosed garage? Correct. And it has a second floor? Correct. It didn't have a second floor before?

It did have a second floor before, yes.

So it was just open down below?

Correct, yes. It was two parking spaces just covered and now it's being enclosed as a proper garage. Okay. So and directly above... is this two bedrooms and a common living space. One of the changes that we've made is a bump out here, which again, in plan, I could have shown what it looked like before versus what it looks like now. But the living room and the bedroom to the right of it, that glass line had gone straight across and now it's being bumped out to increase that area.

So you do have renderings that kind of show before and after. Yes. So I'm of the opinion that you should just go to those renderings because these floor plans are kind of meaningless in some way.

Can we do a comprehensive cover of all the changes first, and then we'll kind of hit those while we're on the renderings? We don't have to keep returning back to this plan?

Okay, so you want him to continue to describe this revision and floor plan, okay?

Yeah. All right, continue. So on the upper level, the only two other changes is directly related to what I explained on the ground floor plan, which is this entry vestibule is a double-height entry vestibule, so it's just – Enter on the ground floor, but it's two stories up and it remains underneath the previously approved roof canopy but it is a proper bump out to create that entry vestibule and then the last change on this plan is this Storage tower which originally was the upper portion of that exterior stair So it's been converted into a storage Within the existing footprint that was previously approved. So it's just a change of function within this footprint. I

Externally, there's no change to the facade of that two-story volume.

There is. I'll show you that change on the last rendering. It's a slight adjustment to the side elevation.

If I may, Mr. Chair, as we move to the next slide, I want to acknowledge that Board Member Schlachter has arrived. He's been here since early in the presentation, and ask him if he has any ex parte disclosures.

We want to disclose.

Okay, thank you. Please go ahead.

Thank you. So again, just to reiterate, when we presented this project back in 2023, we had a series of renderings. And so what's been shown on these next slides is the originally approved rendering versus the proposed rendering, which is directly below. And what we aim to do is take nearly the exact same shot so you could understand what was previously approved versus what's being proposed at this point. So in some of my comprehensive analysis, comments on what was being proposed. What this is showing is that the elevation from Baobab from the cul-de-sac remains nearly identical to the original proposed. So there was some functions occurring on the left-hand side, which was the staff parking and site circulation, but those remain behind landscaping. The architectural massing itself on the front elevation in this view, as you'll see, remains consistent. Some of the areas that I described are further on down the slides. So this area here, just to reiterate what was previously approved, was we had the overall landscape hedging on the left-hand side coming towards the main entry to the house, the vehicular entry, which remains consistent with the original. And on the right-hand side, we have this water feature element that wraps around towards the right-hand side. And I'll get into that in a later slide. But this elevation remains consistent with the originally approved.

The water feature?

Yes.

You said you'll address in a later slide?

I'm going to address the end of the water feature, yes. So this rendering is meant to show the program change within the footprint. Here, the original proposed rendering, which was approved, was the glass line with a door consistent with the adjacent glass elevations. In the proposed rendering, we're bumping out the entry vestibule to create a proper entry and more of an experiential quality to this project. So the roof line remains consistent across. It's just this footprint that extends out towards the motor court to create an entry. And this is a view looking back from that out towards the motor court, looking out towards the arena, towards the east. So this is meant to show the originally approved versus the proposed rendering. And in the lower rendering, you'll see there some of the adjustments to the overall landscaping, as well as the carport being converted into a garage. This view, again, the original rendering up top, which was approved, showing the new proposed rendering with some adjustments to the overall landscape, but the overall massing remains consistent. In this view, you will see it's very subtle, but the bump out to that upper portion of directly above the garage.

On that last slide, can you point out the difference in the treatment of what was a covered carport and is now an enclosed garage?

Yes. So right here was a covered carport, and on this side you'll see the garage door. So it's a pass-through garage. It's got a garage door on both sides, but it is now enclosed. Okay. The main entry of the garage is on the other side of that. This view here, I'll point it out. The change, again, these are renderings that were wrapping around the house when we originally proposed, so we took the same shots and are attempting to show the adjustment. So within this rendering, this is where the proposed barbecue area is, which was originally part of the garden before. As we wrap around the house, this view is meant to showcase the adjustment to the trees. So on the upper originally approved rendering, there's a series of palms that go down the west face or the intercoastal face of the seawall. As this project has come into realization, we realized the views out towards that water are a bit better without these palms, so the landscape architect has adjusted the overall landscaping plan as well as on the right-hand side of this rendering, provided a bit more privacy and shade to the southern elevation of the project. This view is showing the change from the upper approved rendering, which was a garden space, to a flat grass relaxation and play area. But again, the architecture here remains consistent with the original. It's more of the landscaping adjustments as you go from the north down to the south and around to the marina. So there was a question about the change to the elevation. So you'll see the original stair tower here that was open, screened, and since this is being closed, it's now stone that comes down and there's a little vertical slit window that breaks down the side elevation of that. Another thing I'd like to point out too is one of the original comments when we presented this project was the scale of the massing from the street. So you'll see this water well, originally it extended closer to the side yard property line. Since that, we've extended it a little bit less and provided a bit more landscaping, layered landscaping to work to the advantage of masking that stair tower, which has now been converted to a storage tower. And lastly, when this was being reviewed with Part of these changes, we added this additional rendering just to showcase the overall elevation from the cul-de-sac a little bit closer. So again, you could see that mass on the right-hand side and how that's working to be screened through landscaping.

Thank you. Thank you for your presentation. So let's go around and make comments from the board. Or should we hear public comments first? We do that later?

Usually you do it after the initial board discussion.

Yeah, let's do that later. Okay. So board comments, questions?

I have some.

Okay.

All right, so I'm going to focus, my questions are focused on the stair tower and the guest parking area or the staff parking area. We don't have the before to understand what was happening in that staff parking area. But if you can go to the, what's the second sheet in my document? So in that northeast corner, can you describe the changes and help me understand how you're blocking the views from the Marina Basin? So I see that you have a four-foot fence called out in minimal landscape there. So I just want to understand how it was before.

You're referring to this area?

Yes.

Yes. So in the previously approved plan, the entrance was at this location. So the entrance has not changed. And the hedging on the street side remains consistent. So there's going to be a hedge that runs around. On the marina side, we're using a fence, which per the code, it can only be four feet tall. So that's why we're maxed out at four feet there. But we're using the fence to enclose that staff parking area there. And then as you work your way to the left or to plan south, that's where the landscaping starts to pick up and start to screen those site service areas. So before that area was... more of a garden, and just as the projects come into realization, we realize that we need a bit more room for maintenance and trash enclosures and things like that. So everything is enclosed with a fence, and then where applicable, where we can, we're putting an additional layer of landscaping per the guidelines to shelter this area from the public view.

So I think that's going to be an area of concern because that's visible from the public marina and visible from across the basin into this space. And it's a four foot tall fence is what's specified. As you move south, left on the plan, you have a lot more landscape. But I think that area, I'm looking at the clearances and it looks like you would lose two of these parking spaces. But I'm also seeing that you have a movable vehicular gate so it expands into this service area to the south as well.

Yes, so we could remove those two spaces and provide hedging.

I just think more hedging. You can't get more than four feet with a structure, but the planting, I think it's going to look nicer because that's where they're going to be sitting with their boats. If they're entertaining from their boats, they're going to be looking into this gravel or paved parking lot. I think it would be a nicer experience for the community as well.

Understood.

Anything else? Last one for me. So the tower. Every time I've driven since that structure's been constructed, it is very large volume, that stair tower. And I'm pretty sure it was me that brought up the concern with the mass of that volume. I'm probably going to recommend that you lose one of these date palms or whatever the large formal palms are there and add a larger tree in the right-of-way there to create a... larger landscape visual barrier because it it's a massive structure i mean it's 30 something 35 foot tall blank concrete facade um it's it's not very it's obscured by a tree that's not on your plan here but this low rendering you have a large tree that doesn't exist in the plan Right.

This is not in the plan?

No, that's an assumption, I guess, of what's adjacent. So it's not on the landscape plan. That's a neighbor's tree there? Yeah, so this is the view here. So if you look here, you have a 35-foot tall concrete wall from the cul-de-sac. And I think you don't lose really the formality because you have a row surrounding of, I don't know, 10 date palms or 10 royal palms. If you lose the easternmost, I'm sorry, northernmost one on that, I think you'd be able to screen it better with something other than a date palm there without losing the formality of that kind of large colonnade of palm trees. Okay. So that would be my request and recommendation. I'd leave it for discussion with the group, too. What's the cladding on that wall?

Is that stone?

Stone, yes.

So I think... You've driven the cul-de-sac and seen it? Yeah. It's substantial.

As a presence. But I think the trees, you know, as shown now, really start to help to soften it. But I think what you're suggesting is not a bad idea. So we could use it as a condition. I mean, these are simple things.

Yes, sorry. To be clear, you're just suggesting a bit more...

Trading out one of the malt trees or two of the malt trees for a shade tree. It would be, I think that's in the right-of-way, so I don't know what the city exact specs are. I think they allow shade trees within the right-of-way, but they have narrow conditions of what's allowed. But you'll get a lot more screening there, and I don't think it breaks down anything. I mean, it's going to be a better experience.

Right. I understand, yes. And I think the attempt was to, with this layered landscaping, was to try and hide some of this massing because that was something of concern when we originally presented. So I agree with your comments to provide something different to try and take away a little bit from that massing from the street.

It seems like it grew even larger on that northern facade too, right? You have a larger volume of window now being replaced with a smaller one.

Correct. Thank you.

Yep. That's all my comments. Thank you. Anything else?

No? The before and after is representative of basically a very harmonious transformation of what you've already started, which we liked and we approved. It's a beautiful house. So I personally don't see any significant issues. I mean, there's some layering of landscape that architects sometimes push back on, but landscape architects love it because it does soften a very sort of monumental architecture in this case. But those are simple things that I don't know if you want to make that a condition or a friendly suggestion, the landscape layering. think the one on the marina would be a condition i just think it will really detract from what's visible from the arena actually you know i want to point out because you know i'm very busy in the neighborhood and i'm doing a house across from this one and uh and i see that from the marina right there's a lot of parking already that is kind of part of marina parking right so i'm not saying it's beautiful or attractive i mean there are there are parking lots around the marina that you see when you're in your boat um so that that is sort of Now, four feet is minimal, but I think layering landscape in front of that would really help, you know, to kind of get the cars to disappear more from the perspective of the marina, right? That's your concern. But it's a simple thing. I mean, the four-foot fence is kind of meaningless, you know, in terms of screening, right? Correct. It would have been nice to see a design for that fence, but I assume that it's similar to… fencing that we see in the renderings. Yes. And they have, you know, probably like 50% or more opacity, right? Yes. So there's already an intent to sort of create privacy and visual separation, right?

Correct, yes. But I think that line of landscaping on the backside, I think that's a good suggestion.

Okay, so we'll put that into our condition, yeah? Okay. All right, so should we read the, we do have public comments. So these comments come from a neighbor, Nika Logan. And she states, the first one, you could not compare or see an overlay of what was approved and what was proposed. I think she agreed with me. Building a taller green wall along Ball Bay from the entrance to the east, the north feels like we are getting blocked in by another wall restricting air movement. the color scheme seems to have darkened a bit. I mean, is there intention of changing the color scheme, or is this a rendering defect?

I think this is just renderings and how they've changed over the last three years, especially with AI. So the attempt was to mimic, but these, yeah. The original color scheme? Yes, but the trees, obviously they show a little bit darker in this updated rendering. But yeah, the color scheme remains consistent. It's just the rendering.

Okay. The gate at the entry makes it appear more like a fortress, a gate with a different design rather than appearing as a solid piece would be more fitting like the other gates. The house seems to be getting even bigger than it was, and it's enormous. My perception is that there's really no major volumetric change other than turning a carport into a garage, and it has more enclosure, but it doesn't change the massing, right? Correct. Yeah. I like the addition of the more green space, so she likes that. So those are six comments from a neighbor, and you could receive these formally from the city, I suppose. Yes? Okay. Yes, so should we have a motion on this?

Were you interested in speaking on this one or the next one? Okay.

Yeah, any other public comments at this point? Nobody in the room? No? Okay. Okay.

All right, so we're good for moving this forward? All right. I would motion to approve with two conditions. One, amend the landscape to further screen the storage tower now, whatever that is.

Yes, yes.

Northwestern towers. Yes. Northeast. And increase the landscape screening on the marina side. Yes. Those are conditions, not recommendations.

Okay. Okay. Everybody agree with those conditions? So we move it forward. Second? I second. Jose has seconded the motion. Third. Yes, okay. So all those in favor of moving the project forward with those conditions, say aye. Aye. You got four votes out of four members today. Thank you.

Thank you for your time. I appreciate it.

Thank you. How much more time for completion? I'm just curious.

End of next year.

Another year?

Another year.

Okay. Very well. I'm sorry? Yeah, that's more or less. No, it's, yeah. It's a big house, yeah. All right, so the group for 74 Ball Bay Drive, ready to go?

Yes?

Okay.

Identify yourself for the record. Yes, good afternoon to the board members. My name is Osvaldo Marrero. I reside at 13975 East Palomino Drive in Southwest Ranches, Florida. And we are here to represent my client as well as his for a new house, a two-story home. It's about 13,000 square feet. And I'm sure you guys have looked at the plans that were submitted. And there's a lot of renderings that show and depict the different types of materials, exterior materials, the finishes also, the outside finishes. And overall design, it's a beautiful concept. And we are trying to get everything that the board has requested. We're implementing it. So we request, if possible, for your approval. Being that said, I have my lead designer, Martin Lipman, who is very familiar with the project. And I'd like to bring him to the podium and explain a little bit more of the concept for his design.

Before you step aside, so you're the… I'm the architect of record. Architect of record? Right. And who's Osvaldo Marrero? That's me. Oh, okay. Okay. Very well. Thank you, Osvaldo. Okay.

Just for the record, before we start, I didn't realize it was the Fox residence. I am friends with, just for disclosure, the Foxes. I have seen their plans in the past, but nothing was discussed regarding the ARB or my role thereof, so just wanted to disclose that for the record.

Thank you, Mr. Osvaldo.

It's a beautiful home.

Thank you.

Thank you for having us. Like Mr. Marrero was saying, I'm going to grab this device, I guess. So this is, okay. Sorry, my name is Martin Littman and my address is 18955 Northeast 21st Avenue, North Miami Beach, Florida 33179. I guess I'll start with some of the exterior images. so that we can explain what the design process and how the creative process started. I think this is the perfect page to start with. So this would be both the top renderings are street views and the bottom two renderings are courtyard views. The whole concept behind how we started the massing of the design really stemmed from the existing house that's there today. The existing house has two one-story structures facing the street. I have a picture that I brought here just to give a little bit of reference. This is the existing home that's there today. The owner really liked that layout and that idea of having two one-story structures towards the street view. So they wanted to maintain that idea, even though this is aesthetically completely different. That really is what started the design to try to adhere with the client's request of having these two one-story structures be the screening towards the street to create privacy. And as you continue into the courtyard, these one-story structures create a connection to the two-story structure of the residence as it continues towards the west through these architectural elements here, which are two beams that connect the one-story structures to later the rest of the home towards the west. The idea is to have a very private courtyard. And not only are these two one-story structures a very important functional part of the program, but like I was saying, it really creates that beautiful private area in the front. As we continue moving towards the next page, we included, I know that this is, we really don't discuss anything on the interior, but we decided to include some images so that we can see in general and explain you know the cohesion between the interior and the exterior materials uh can really be seen throughout the project is your office doing the interiors as well um we designed the interiors but we have an interior designer that's going to be sourcing and taking care of all the shop drawings etc but yes we have we have designed the house entirely and Even though the exterior is only viewed here, we wanted to really show the interior to have a sense of the overall project because the materials on the exterior, which, sorry, I'm going to go back, really there's three main materials being used. We have On the board below, you can see all of the wood accents would be aluminum imitation wood. So there's various features. You have slats, for example, vertical slats that can be seen here, which would be on the board. Then we have more solid cladding paneling around other areas of the home. Later, we have stone cladding throughout these beams and throughout this These bands, the roof and the vertical walls. And then in the center here, we have a different stone, which is more of a marble. It is a marble, I'm sorry. So those are technically the three materials that we're using throughout the entire project. Front, rear, interior, and exterior. Here, you can see how we tie in together the marble accent onto the portico, which is the main entrance feature. And at the same time, the wood cladding happens to be on the exterior of the portico, but then on the interior, we bring the marble from the front one-story structure, and it becomes a design accent feature. And everywhere else, you have the wood cladding here in its different forms. Here it's solid, and here are the slat versions. And we also take the flat I'm sorry, the cladding, the slats, and we also used that same design feature for the entry fence and vehicular gate. Let me go. Here on the interior, we're using all of the same materials, the wood, the marble, the stone. And as we continue going to the rear, we were very consistent with not only the aesthetics but the material selection as well. One of the most important features, as I mentioned, that the client really desired when they were thinking of the design of the house, I mentioned one of them, which was in the front, which was the one-story structures. And then the other main, I guess, program desire from the client is that they really wanted to have their bedroom as far west as possible, as close to the intercoastal as possible. And that's why the entire master suite, which is on the second floor here, creates um the covered terrace below and and then it and then you can see on the side here to be able to achieve that proximity to the water we we brought uh all of the master suite uh the bedroom the study and the bathroom as close as possible and then we have a side balcony so that the balcony wouldn't push the bedroom towards the rear or towards the east so that was really the conception behind the rear design, the entire master bedroom towards the water, creating the covered terrace, which obviously here in Florida is extremely important. And then they wanted to kind of, in a way, have the view towards the northwest. And that's what this balcony is there for. So when you're in the bedroom, this is the balcony area. So it's an additional seating area. It's exterior. And You know, in many areas of this house, the interior-exterior connection, which nowadays everybody, you hear so much about in these new modern homes. This is not the exception. We really wanted to create that interior-exterior flow. And even though the bedroom has a lounge area where the study is, the bedroom has a considerable size, but then it continues out towards this balcony. And then from this balcony, you have that northwest view towards the intercoastal. And... Yeah, I think that, I guess, concludes the presentation. Maybe it's good to mention that in the pool we have a sunken fire pit as well. So in a way, let me go back to the plan, the shape of the pool becomes, it looks like it's a straight pool. Here we go. It looks like it's a straight rectangle But it actually the pool the water line is more of a u-shape and then in the center we carved out a space for the sunken fire pit Very well, thank you so much.

Thank you for that any initial questions comments So let me ask you a few things, and I'm sorry because a lot of them are really boring questions because your design is so amazing.

Thank you. Coming from you. Thank you.

Thank you. So a few practical things just coming from the kind of experience that time gives us. You got the condensing units on the rooftop, which is always convenient because you kind of bring that noise up to the roof and hopefully it doesn't affect anybody instead of putting it on the side yards, right? But I believe the building code requires that you have access to a rooftop that has mechanical equipment for servicing. Is that correct, Mr. Building Official?

Yes, over 16 feet you have to have some attached or permanent stairwell, either through an access panel, access through inside of the home or from the outside.

So that's just a friendly comment because what we typically try to do, because a lot of these end up having roof terraces as well, so since we're going up to the roof terrace with some kind of stair, then that allows you then to service the equipment in this case. You just don't want it to become an afterthought, you know, because the house is so clean and so perfect. This would create imperfection. So think about that because, you know, the ship ladder thing becomes a last-minute thing. You could do a ship ladder that gets you up there, but it's really ugly. So that's something that I think you need to look at in refining the design. The other question is about your gates, right? We all have this sort of request sometimes from clients that want privacy to bring that front gate as high as possible, right, so that they can maintain their visual privacy within that front court. And it looks like that gate that you've designed which is really in tune with the language of architecture that you're exploring here, seems to be about like a 10-foot gate, right? Is that permitted by zoning? I thought it was limited to five feet.

No, yes. We have a node here. It's five feet, yes.

Oh, so the node says five feet, but the rendering is what it really wants to be.

But, yeah, it's going to be five feet, yes. At one point, the owner wanted to pursue some sort of variance request, but they understood that they're going to keep it at five feet, yeah.

Does the building official have something to say about the potential variance for something like this to exist? Would that have to go to the Board of Adjustment or something?

I believe that for the last 12 years there haven't been no variances.

No variances for front fencing or whatever, yeah.

Yes. Yeah. We had asked about if there was some sort of precedent about it, and seeing that there wasn't, we thought it was going to probably be something.

So you're okay. You already accepted the five-foot condition. Yeah.

I mean, I have. Maybe the owner later wants to pursue that in the future. I don't think so, but... Yeah.

Yeah, in a way, look, I mean, it's nice. I mean, but also having it lower allows you to enjoy your front facade, which is quite fantastic. The front door, is that a full pivot door? Is that like in half or several?

Yeah, it has – correct, yes, good question. When it's closed, it's supposed to look like one – 25-foot panel, but actually it's a 12-foot door with a fixed panel above with the same material as a door.

So it gives you that look, but the actual functional part is the lower half, right? Correct, yes.

The idea is that when it's closed, it looks full height, like you can see here. But yes, only... Where this beam is, this is the 12-foot height? Yes. And that's where the top of the door would match, correct? It's coinciding with the window with the glass fixed panels.

The cladding, that cladding that you're depicting here as stone, is it stone? Is it like porcelain?

No, no. Well, there's two different types of stones. There's the actual marble, which is here and on the interior of the portico, which let me point out in the samples.

It would be this one. So that's real stone mechanically applied with pins and all this. Yeah, okay.

The idea is for it to be an opposite of Carrara marble. Instead of gray with full white, it's actually white veins with full gray.

Yeah, it's very nice. It's very warm and has some character, which is nice. So your clients are committed to that. Yes, 100%.

And then we have another stone, which is more to depict something similar to limestone, but it is still stone, which is this one, which is this one here, which is almost like a travertine.

Got it. That's where the planters, you know, yeah.

But all in all, the combination of the three materials are what really enhances this idea of warmth, which is what we most wanted to achieve.

I think something else, because, you know, there's so many clean lines here and slender or slapped edges, the way that the roof is draining, you try to avoid any dripping. It seems like there's like a small little parapet all throughout. When I look at the roof plan, right, it looks like there's a bit of a parapet, and then you're sloping toward drains, and the drains are along that parapet condition. Yes.

Normal drain and the emergency drain.

Right.

Yeah. But since you pointed that out, it's something important that you just mentioned. To be able to achieve the thin slab aesthetic, we actually have above the windows, that's where we have a drop. And that is also made out of the same aluminum as the window frames. I'm going to try to go to the rear rendering and point that out. You can really see it here how, of course, all the air conditioning ducts and the drop ceiling really When you're on the interior, the height is to the top of the window, but on the exterior, to be able to achieve the thin slab, we're actually dropping or raising above the windows, enhancing the actual aluminum of the window frames. So that's how specifically here you can really see how that horizontal line is – And in the section, you can also see that how we achieve. Oh, here, in this render, here you can see it very well. Can you show it in section? Sure. Yes.

Okay, so is that going to be a spandrel piece in front of it?

I mean, it's a concrete tie beam, and then it will be cladded in the same aluminum as the window frames. It's aluminum? Yes. Not glass, so the glass doesn't go all the way up. Correct. The glass goes up to the bottom of the tie beam, and then the tie beam will be cladded in the aluminum.

So do you have a horizontal band there? Correct. Above the window frame. Yes. The renderings show very nicely from, you know, you're going to slap, slap to slap, but really that detail is not very... Well, actually... A beautiful detail.

Thank you. Yes, it's a detail we thought a lot about, but actually you don't go slap to slap because the window ends... prior to the bottom of the roof. What I'm saying, I get your detail.

Your detail is great. However, in the rendering, it makes it look like this whole thing is all glass.

Correct. That was the intention, to make it look like the thin roof line could be more visible. That's why even the stone and the windows are not flush with the front of that band. We set it back.

Can I explain one more thing? This band on that rendering on the left-hand side. Here? Yeah. No, no, no. The one right before. The one you pointed to. The long band. Oh, the canopy. Can you have a section through there? What is that? Is that free-floating completely? No, it's resting.

That's a good question. No, no, it's a good question. It's resting on the portico. So about 60% of the length of this eyebrow is resting on the portico. You can see it here. They touch each other. Yeah.

Yeah. Who's your structural engineer?

Yousef Hashem. Okay. Well, he's going to be. Yousef. Yes. Yousef, okay.

You're in good hands with Yousef. Yes.

Let me ask you something. It's not about the structure. Is this supposed to read as a band that is just floating, or is it part of the architecture of the two-story element? I'm not getting that band.

Are you referencing this band?

No, that same one that you're showing over there. Correct. It looks like a floating piece, but is it a floating piece or is it part of the whole element?

That's a good question. That's why the cladding, this wood cladding, does not go all the way to the top of the roof. The band of what would be the thickness of the roof goes all the way around, and it has a continuation and later becomes that eyebrow. And it basically starts, let's say, in this image where I'm pointing right now. This would be the balcony. It's towards the front, and then it turns the corner. It goes all the way around, and then it connects back to this balcony as well.

Yeah, look, I think that this is still in schematic mode. And once, you know, because, you know, you slice through a few of the sections of the house and you need more slicing because, you know, the sort of the challenge or sort of the calibration here that is going to be key to success to maintain the slenderness of those edges is how you step it down into sort of that lower roof that then is the one that you're really draining. And, you know, you have that parapet, so I'm trying to imagine how that parapet works and you still have this sort of feel that these are very slender canopies. And then the challenge always with these canopies is how they deal with the water, you know. More and more, I'm trying to sort of push the water off the edge so it doesn't drip. Because when you get that moisture constantly, it starts to, you know, grow bacteria and it starts to get dirty. And then, you know, people say, my house is dirty. So these are the things in the tropics, right, that we need to work on. To floor drains, you prefer? Yeah. Well, I don't know, because you have a lot of edges that appear to be very slender, and I don't know how much water they're capturing, right, and draining. It is.

The reason for the parapet is so that we can have the height to create the pitch. But what you see are the eight inches of the side.

I see you're sloping the canopies, you're sloping them a quarter inch per foot back to the main roof.

Yes.

So they're not dripping off the edge is what I'm seeing in one of your sections.

Yes.

I think that's a good strategy for sure.

Yeah.

I'm trying to understand because your front, I like the front of the house. Thank you. However, I'm looking through the drawings and trying to understand what you're doing. Like this level here, is this supposed to be the entire house? This is supposed, yes, this is the roof.

The front portion, is it a one story? Correct. This is just the main structure. The Let me show you the site plan here. There you can see on the second floor plan, you can see what would be the roofs of the one-story structures. So this is the second floor floor plan that shows the roofs of the one-story structures, and then the roof plan shows just the two-story structure. But we resolved the drainage for the – we will resolve the drainage for the one-story structures the same way.

Your roof, if you overlay the roof, you have these two openings – for palm trees at either side of the entrance.

Yes.

Then when I go to the roof plan, I don't see that. So I'm trying to understand it.

See this... Because you have the... Here, let me show you. You have that eyebrow that you were asking me about before. That goes across.

That eyebrow is not being drawn in this upper roof.

But next to the eyebrow, you have two openings. Yes, which are basically these. You see them here. Yes, these, correct. But then when you draw the roof, you don't see the two openings. Well, because, yes, you're right, you're right, because the roof comes to here. So basically this area here would be the eyebrow. This would be the portico, yes, and these are the openings, the cutouts, yes.

So in public comment…

Yes, Mr. Chair, our public comment has informed me that they have to go pick up a child, and they requested if they could be heard now.

Yes, and I'm sorry I didn't propose that earlier, and then we'll continue with sort of the feedback. I'll leave the podium. Yeah, let's listen to the public comment for a second. Thank you. So, yes, please come to the podium, identify yourself, and we look forward to your feedback.

Thank you so much for the consideration. Hi, I'm Heather Brecker for 73 Balbae.

I'm John Brecker from 73 Balbae. I'll let my wife speak first and I'll speak afterwards.

First I'll say that's a beautiful rendering and We have been residents at 73 Bell Bay for six-plus years now. In order to keep it short, I'll just read this to you so you can hear from me directly. For six consecutive years, we've dealt with construction literally directly next to or across from our home. At that time, we had a son who was not even yet one years old, and with no meaningful regard for the fact that we were residents, our family's home and the place where we are entitled to live reasonably has been impacted by this construction for our safety, our health, and our quality of life. This has not been a short-term inconvenience. Six years is an extraordinary length of time living with ongoing noise, dust, vibration, traffic, disruption, loss of privacy, and the constant intrusion that comes with construction of not just a single family residence, but as you know, some really massive, significant construction projects in the vicinity of, you know, five houses down or across within the realm of where 73 Bell Bay, our home, is located. And while we all live in a beautiful community, we also live in a community. And I do want you to understand that our living, you know, has been impacted significantly. substantially by all these significant construction projects that are now beautiful homes. And we have been dealt with living through all of this, like I said, for six consecutive years. The burden of that development has been placed almost entirely on the families who live directly in its path of which who we are. I don't want to go on longer than this, but our address should not become a permanent construction zone simply because Because the development is permitted, there has to be a point at which the impact of the people and the lives who live here have matter. And therefore, I ask you to understand timely the consideration not only of just where we are at, but our health and well-being and the safety. So I'll let my husband continue.

First off, thank you for allowing us to speak. It is a beautiful house. Unfortunately, we're not going to live there. We're going to have the burden of the construction. A 13,000 square foot house is the humongous house. We live the neck diagonally across us, and we're currently building a $15,000 square foot house. And then next to it, it's been five years of that construction. I brought a picture today of when we were walking here, cars that are lined up on the street. Some days it's impossible for us to get out of our driveway. We've gotten a flat tire. We've had to change multiple, we've had to change our air conditioning system because of all of the dust. There's been vibration, constant vibration that has affected our foundation of our house. And that's not just our house, it's people along the corridor. We've had construction behind us, next to us, and diagonally for the last six years. We have a seven-year-old. He can't go out and play in the street. Why do we live in Bell Harbor so your kids can go out and play in the street? He can't go out in the street because there are trucks constantly, construction workers constantly coming by. And I think this needs to be put into consideration. A 13,000 square foot house is going to be a number of years of construction. We've lived here for six years under these conditions. And I don't think anyone in this room would buy a house that you have construction of this magnitude for so long and with the disruptions that we have. There's noise disruptions. I work from home. There's noise disruptions. I think that this really needs to be thought of. Then as specifics to the house, the two main buildings they want to build right onto the street, I really object to. It's going to be a massive project for them to build those. It's going to be all trucks and noise and dust. We live right across the street. It's not taken into account. the neighbors that live there. Yes, it's beautiful, but it's a huge inconvenience to us and to our neighbors. So I think the design needs to go back and be changed. It'd be one thing if you kept it all the way back and you had a big courtyard, but to build those two pieces is going to be a huge disruption to us. Not to your clients, but to us. So I think there needs to be really thought about the design of this property so it's fair for the people that already live here.

Along with the timeline.

And the timeline. I think there needs to be a long discussion. Build this house when you're finished with what's been going on two houses away. After some time. There's no room to park. There's no room to park on the street.

I have to call the gate sometimes to get out. God forbid there was an emergency. How would I get out of my own home because I can't? And we have a roundabout driveway, so we have two points that have not just once, twice, three times, but many times been literally blocked. And then people get annoyed and then they go fast. So if my son's coming home and he just wants to go outside, I'm worried someone is skirting at 60 miles per hour because they want to just get through the area because it's such a mayhem.

You know, there have been many times, I'm sure you all live in the neighborhood, you go down the street, can't get through. You have to either wait or you have to go around. It's just this plan of a 13,000 square foot house at this time is not realistic for this neighborhood. We cannot handle the amount of construction, dirt, or vibration that we've handled.

Our house has suffered from it, not to mention our quality of life, health, and safety.

So-

Okay. Well, thank you for your honest presentation.

What do you guys think?

Well, sir, look, I'll tell you, I'm trying to share and lead this board, and just to show... My thoughts are that we are trying to look at design, aesthetics, consistency, context, and there's a criteria that we have to follow, right? What is outside our realm here is really all the issues that are created by the success of Ball Harbor, right? Because people are buying homes, tearing them down, and doing larger homes. That's sort of the trend, right? That's been the constant trend. And I think in this free society that we live in, you know, your city commission and your mayor would be the people to really understand your concern. They live also in the island, and they understand the limitations of what they could do to sort of create legislation.

What about design? Design those two things.

So from a design point of view, the city has a zoning consultant that looks at does the house comply with zoning criteria. The building official then reports to us as a board of the findings and, you know, sort of the report from the zoning side. Does the project meet the zoning criteria of the village of Ball Harbor? The answer is yes, it does. Because otherwise it wouldn't have gotten to us. It only comes to us once it goes through that process. Then does it meet the building code and all kinds of other more technical aspects of the code? The building official, you know, read into the record and has created a series of conditions to move this thing forward. So that's sort of the typical process. You know, I'm an architect. I'm active in the island. I see what you're saying every day. And I see it in Palm Island and Hibiscus Island and Palm Beach and Delray and all the beautiful luxury communities that we have in Florida that are now gaining a lot of attraction, right, where people want to come and live in the same environment that you live. it's a real challenge to all these communities, whether it's Boca Raton or, you know, Key Biscayne. I mean, everybody is having to deal with this construction traffic, regulating that. You know, you have a gate, and the gate is pretty effective in trying to manage things. But it is kind of pure chaos in many ways because a lot of people are allowed in, right, because they're contractors working in different projects. What they do once they get in, you know who's going to be policing that right where do they park how do they drive you know so all these concerns that you have about safety for your family for yourselves they're all legitimate comments but for us i i don't know i personally i don't know what to do about it because you know we're here to judge Is it contextual? Is it attractive? Is it going to perform well? Does it have adequate landscaping? The massing of the two frontal garages, they're within the zoning criteria. They're allowed. They're not doing anything that is not allowed, right? And what we see is that when people are building these larger homes, You know, a lot of times they come to us and they have one parking garage, like a garage for one car, and we sort of say, how is that going to work? But, you know, we do see a future, hopefully, where a lot of us are not going to be using too many cars, right? But we're still using a lot of cars, right? So they still have to go somewhere. So we do have concerns about that. This house appears to have two garages for two cars, has plenty of car capacity. But, you know, you're concerned. is understood by me, and I'll just allow my other board members to state their concern or their comments about this. We have a resident actually sitting with us that lives in the island, so that's all I have to say. Do you have anything to share with them?

No, and this street is very complicated. There's a big house on the end that I can't get out that exit any day. It's always blocked, the big house that they're building in. It's complicated, but I can also say that Ellie and the entire code compliance team have really stepped it up and trying to impose new requirements to make it better for the village residents, but it's not our jurisdiction, but I...

I think it's a policy issue. To me, it's a policy issue. It's like how do you govern the growth and the luxury construction that the island is experiencing, right? And this happens in all these communities along the coast. And how, as a public official, how do you deal with that, right? Because, you know, we do live in a world here in the United States, at least, in that, you know, I buy a property. I have certain rights. I want to, you know, I want to build my house. I want to, you know, my forever home. And then it affects others that live in the neighborhood, like you're being affected. So, you know, how do you legislate to avoid that? I mean, you basically have to put some kind of building moratorium, and I don't think that's going to happen. People buy property, people make investments, and they have rights. So if they have rights, then you could challenge them. You could try to sort of, you know, go through the legal process and try to challenge them. Well, I mean, there should be.

There should be some, and I agree it's a policy, but there should be some regulation that, yes, you can buy property, but you're not going to be able to build until- Because we bought the property to live.

No, 100%.

But if you talk to everybody that's managing these construction sites, the job superintendents and the project managers, Most of their day is spent talking to the front gate because somebody's trying to get in and they have to manage that and then they come in and they got a big piece of equipment being delivered and they need a crane and where to put the crane and then they stop the traffic and it's like that's what you're living every day. in about, you know, 30 active construction sites in the island. So it's, you know, it's stressful. It puts a stress in the community. As you know, there are a lot of Jewish holidays in the islands where nothing happens, right? So that's good, right? Because at least, you know, you're trying to protect those days. But it's not enough. It's not enough.

Yeah. I have a seven-year-old. Yeah. It's a bummer. Because of all the construction on the day-to-day.

So it's a real issue. I don't have any solutions, unfortunately.

We asked if we needed legal representation, and it wasn't even responded to. I appreciate what you're saying, and I see your sensitivity, but there's got to be a way for someone to help guide us.

Yeah, I would go to the commission.

Mr. Chair?

Yeah.

What I wanted to add to everything you've said, which is accurate, is the building official and the building department is run by L.A. Palazzo. They play a role in approving the construction process, inspecting the construction process. But the one thing that has not been mentioned is that everything behind the gate is private streets, and the Civic Association manages the gate access. And that is another avenue for you to communicate about how that's being handled as well.

Yes.

So what other communities are doing is they require the contractor to present a construction plan. That construction plan says, okay, on-site, I'm going to provide parking for 15 cars. And then off-site, I'm going to allow everybody else to park off-site. Does that really happen? Do contractors actually park remote and then buy a minibus to transport their crews to the site? I mean, usually that's not very practical. So it's very difficult to manage these things, you know. But I don't know what else to say.

I was just going to direct you to the avenues. Like we hear your comment. We appreciate your comment. But we don't have the purview to really have any effect on it.

Do you have the dates of the start and approximate completion of the project?

this is a between the building department these are two to three year constructions that five-year house i mean that has they have changed architects they've changed designers and say so i mean that's what happens owners make changes and they have to get revisions you know it's like we had a change here today that we looked at you know these sort of extend the schedule we cannot control that and and it just happens it's the way these things evolve you know because um People are creative and they have expectations. So it's difficult for us to have any impact on the schedule nor the building official per se.

So the three avenues forward would be the staff, the commission, and the mayor. And that could affect your zoning code or some moratorium. I don't know how that would look. But they would be the avenue through and then your community association. Those are the three avenues that would really have the ability to affect and regulate or even bring to the community input whether that regulation is agreed upon.

And since the board members have mentioned a potential moratorium, Tallahassee passed a statute that stripped us of our authority to have moratoria through October 1st, 2027. So that's not actually an option.

Those are the limitations on local rule that we have seen from the state. SB 180. So that's happening, too, at the state level. They're saying, no, your local community, you know, we supersede your authority on many things. So, yeah, so it's not a good answer for you, I think. Mr.

Chair, I think Ellie was just to be heard.

If you go to the first page on the plans, there's a note of an ordinance that you guys could look at, that that ordinance is what protects you guys. And we will have a pre- Where's the note, Ellie?

Right there. Oh, okay.

Here's an ordinance. 23... 653... For construction, and they... And we have a resident here, and also he's building, and we've made sure that every construction site has a pre-construction meeting for demolition and for the construction. That's part of that ordinance, and we will have that meeting, and court enforcement will be part of it, police department, us, public works, they're all part of that meeting. and also the association is part of that meeting, to be able to control the access, the amount of vehicles inside the site. Unfortunately, like you guys are saying, it's true that that house, That house has been in construction before I got here, and I've been here almost five and a half years. So just keep in mind, we can't control that. But just for peace of mind, based on the last communication that we've had with that site, supposedly before the end of September, they're going to finish. That's what they've been telling us. This could be any time after, now it's this process, then they have to go through the process of permitting. That could take another month and a half to three months, and then after that, they could start construction. But then you also got another house across the other corner that's a house similar to this that got approved Five months ago, it's under construction already, and you have the other one on 84, probably. That one is moving a little bit faster. That one should be done probably within six to nine months. Very fast. Yeah. But the other one, it will be... probably two or three years because it's one of these big houses because they have a lot and a half. So unfortunately, I cannot control the construction speed, neither the materials or how they acquire the materials. We have houses there down in front of your house that's more than six years, and we have another one inside the dry lot that has been in the construction for more than four years, and it's not that big of a house. But the materials that they've picked out, the leeway and lead time that they've taken that time. Unfortunately, we can't control that. But I completely understand, and if you want, we could give you the contact information for when we're going to have the pre-construction, and you could be even here in that pre-construction meeting, and you'll see the actual contractor and see their face. That's our purpose for that. And we could have a point of contact and hear what we... What we say to them, you're coming into the neighborhood and being a neighbor into the neighborhood. You cannot start on the wrong foot. You've got to be pleasant and compassionate of the disruption and the construction around the rest of the neighborhoods.

If I may, because we need to finish this because I've got to go somewhere and we take a vote for these guys. But you got the idea, okay? We feel your frustration and your pain, and we wish we could do something about it.

The current owner lives in the neighborhood, only a couple of houses down from you guys. So I would definitely recommend speaking with him. Let him know your frustration. I'm sure he's facing the same frustration with the construction. And he's a really nice guy, so...

No, no, not at all. I would be, I would think the same.

If you want to write down your number here and your name, at least inform you of when construction would start. So, Mr. Archit, get ready for a continued presentation because we need to wrap it up. Thank you for having me. Thank you guys.

For transparency, you have to be out of here in 10 minutes for a call, so just.

Yes, so that means we. We'll still have, of course. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you, thank you. So, look, we have some additional public comments, which I will not read into the record. They're available for the architects to read. They are very sensible comments, again, from Mika Logan, and then we have public comments from this couple. And so I think... We could wrap up, you know, the feedback, right?

Any more questions about the architecture? Two comments. One functional, one aesthetic. On the north side, you have a single access, gate access, and no access until you get to the rear yard. So that courtyard, I would imagine there'll be kids at some point. There's a kind of a visual barrier screen.

Sorry, can you repeat that?

You were saying that there's a gate on the northeast corner, right?

Yes.

And there's not another access until you get all the way down to the far northwest corner of the house, correct?

And there's another access here.

So that whole northern 75 by 10 feet is accessible except from the right-of-way or the backyard?

Correct.

I would just recommend a gate in there. A gate? And that screen.

Oh, no, I'm sorry. There's a side exit through the gym that is an additional. That's in the far northwest corner. Yeah, these are all sliding doors, yeah.

Yeah, and it steps down two feet. Correct. My point is that if a kid is playing in the courtyard, a ball goes over to their yard. It's inaccessible.

You would have to go out or into the house.

You'd have to go into the street or all the way to the backyard.

You could create an access here.

That's just a recommendation. Friendly there. The other one with that garage facing the street and the cars having to kind of do a 180, is there any thought as to screening the lights coming back into the neighbors who just left? Headlights pointing in there? Because normally the headlights as you're leaving your driveway are pointing down into the street. At that point, they're probably going to be sloped towards the garage door. So the headlights are going to be pointing into the front windows of that houses across the street.

So maybe bringing some opacity to the lower portion of the gate, you know, like an aluminum panel.

You're concerned that maybe through these windows you would see it? Correct. Oh, okay. Good point.

So normally on a structured garage, they're going to require some sort of visual barrier there to keep that from happening.

Yeah, good point. So I don't… Yeah, the windows are very minimal, but you're right. I mean, it could create… It could just be done with landscape.

It could be a frosting that's up to three feet.

I think he's got it. Anything else? We didn't notice that. Yeah.

Okay. Any other comments? I just have a question. Do you have a fresh air intake system built in this house?

Yes. Yes, for, yeah, why? No, no, I'm building and... We didn't do the mechanical plans yet, but we always do.

Just a recommendation that, you know, there's some radon issues in Bell Harbor. A lot of the concrete is having radon issues. I had to rework my entire HVAC system for fresh air intake. So just a friendly recommendation.

Radon, big, big issue. So take it early because it's easy to do it now. Then you try to retrofit it later. Mr. Gomez, any comments?

I've been looking at the plans, and there's a little bit of coordination there to be done. Thank you for picking up the opening. Just friendly.

They're in schematics. They need to go through a process.

I think what we're proving today is sort of the look and feel. That eyebrow is pretty impressive over already an arch. There's an arch entrance, and you have this eyebrow on top of the arch. It'll work. They'll work it out. He's more than capable. You can tell.

Thank you.

I mean, we have to trust, right, because, you know, there isn't a process where you come back after you finish your full design and permitting and all this. Sometimes we wish we could see things before they go into construction, but it's not going to happen. But, yeah, I mean, I think the beauty is that we have different brains here, and we're all kind of giving you our best thoughts, you know, to make sure you find great success in this project. I think, you know, the design is… is really nicely done of course your clients are very happy which always is important but i think you know you got consistency in the vocabulary the material palette is fantastic um it's sort of in the execution that you're going to be tested right because we you know we want to make sure always as architects that contractors don't cut corners or clients don't cut corners and things like that and we wish you good luck on that um thank you thank you everybody you've done an excellent job i mean i think that um And the feedback that you're getting from the neighbors is sort of the norm here because there's a lot going on in the island, right? And it's a beautiful community, so people get concerned. No, and it's true.

Every time I have to go to the job site, there's a lot of cars. I mean, I feel sympathetic for it.

For sure, for sure. But, you know, you're not a traffic engineer.

Chair, do you want to take the vote and then you can wrap up the comments? Yes.

Well, I think we're done with comments. I think let's go ahead and go forward on this. Anybody wants to make a motion to approve? Yeah. Second? Second? That was a motion. Yes, I saw it. I captured that.

And there's no conditions other than the staff report?

All those in favor say aye. Aye. No conditions. So you got four yeses and no official written conditions. We're issuing the comments of the neighbors for your consideration. Okay. And we wish you the best.

Thank you so much. Thank you for all your help, and especially to the building department.

You've got the best building official, so he'll get you permitted. He said one and a half months, so I wrote that down. I heard that.

I heard that. I heard that, yes.

It depends on the quality of the joint. That's true.

That's true.

Thank you. I think no other official business. So we're done. We close the meeting. No more public comments. No general, no. The world is safe. Everything's happy. Everything's beautiful. Meeting comes to a close. Thank you so much.