Planning Board - Regular Meeting

Call this meeting to order. This is a regular meeting of the city of Callaway Board of Commissioners. It is Tuesday, March 10th, 2026. It's 6:00 p. p.m. If y'all will stand with me. Commissioner Bza, will you do the invitation? Commissioner Griggs, ple please lead us in the pledge. Thank you, God, for allowing us to meet together, Lord. I thank you for our health and our safety. I thank you for all the citizens of Callaway that are able to come out tonight. Lord, I pray that as we go through this meeting, Lord, that you would help us to represent our citizens, uh, represent our morals and our values, God. And I pray that you would just continue blessing and watching over us in Jesus name. Amen.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay, city clerk, please do a roll call. Commissioner Bzel, here. Commissioner Griggs here. Commissioner Aers here. Mayor Henderson here. And just for the record, Commissioner Peliter is absent.

Okay, we have presentation tonight. I think that's Deputy Martin will do the Bay County Sheriff's Office February statistics. Good afternoon. Uh for the month of February, we had 1,045 calls for service, 23,369 miles patrolled, total of 40 arrests, 24 traffic stops, 141 citations, and 27 accidents. And with our accidents, we had um eight parking lots and a total of 20 non-parking lot crashes. Three of which were at Tindle Parkway and 22 and three were at Cherry Street and Tindle Parkway. And the majority of those were for fail to yield the rightway.

Okay. See the citations? Well, somebody was busy. It's been a busy couple of months, I just want to tell you. Well, thank you. Thank you, Deputy Martin.

Okay, we've got a couple proclamations. I see somebody is here from the Red Cross to accept this proclamation. Hey, let me go ahead and read it from up here and then I'll bring it down and I'll present it to you. Okay. City of Callaway Proclamation. Whereas in March, we celebrate American Red Cross Month by honoring our neighbors who make its humanitarian mission possible in Callaway. Every day, their acts of kindness change lives, bringing relief, comfort, and hope when help cannot wait. This compassionate spirit runs deep in our community just as it has for 145 years through the American Red Cross. Whereas today, those who serve with the Northwest Florida chapter light the way during emergencies, whether it's delivering shelter, food, and comfort after disasters, providing a safe, lifesaving blood supply for patients facing conditions like cancer treatments, childbirth complications, and traumatic injuries. assisting military members, veterans, and their families with 247 global support or empowering individuals with skills like first aid and CPR that save lives. Whereas these collective efforts are a powerful reminder that the strength of our community lies in our shared commitment to one another. As we mark Red Cross Month, let us celebrate our local heroes and resolve to continue lifting each other up so no one faces an emergency alone. Now therefore, I, Pam Henderson, mayor of the city of Callaway, Florida, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the laws of Bay County and Florida, do hereby proclaim March 2026 as Red Cross month.

And if YOU WOULD, TELL the city clerk your name so we have you on the record. Yeah. Steve Dixon. Dway.

All right. Thank you. Okay. And then we have second proclamation. Let me get my pages turned here. City of Callaway proclamation. Whereas American women of every race, class, and ethnic background have made historic contributions to the growth and strength of our nation in countless recorded and unrecorded ways. And whereas American women have played and continue to play critical economic, cultural, and social roles in every sphere of the life of the nation by constituting a significant portion of the labor force working inside and outside of the home. And whereas American women have played a unique role throughout the history of the nation by providing the majority of the volunteer labor labor force of the nation as well as the establishment of early charitable, philanthropic and cultural institutions in our nation. And whereas American women of of every race, class, and ethnic background served as early leaders in the forefront of every major progressive social change movement. And whereas American women have been leaders not only in securing their own rights of suffrage and equal opportunity, but also in the abolitionist movement, the emancipation movement, the indust industrial labor movement, the civil rights movement, and other movements, especially the peace movement, which created a more fair and just society for all. And whereas despite these contributions, the role of American women in history has been consistently

overlooked and undervalued in the literature, teaching, and study of American history. Now, therefore, I, Pam Henderson, mayor of the city of Callaway, Florida, do hereby recognize the month of March 2026 as Women's History Month. And as part of Women's History Month, I'd like to recognize many of the women who work in our city. We have several women that are in leadership roles in our city, starting with our city clerk, Ashley Roick. WE HAVE our code enforcement director Bonnie Fry, our human resources director, Emma Ford, and our utility utility billing director, Lisa Mayo. And while we're talking about leasing utility billing, I just want to let everybody know in the month of February, we had the lowest number of cut offs since at least 2017. It's since the city manager started here in 2017. We had the lowest number of cut offs since then. We had 137 cut offs. Now, you have to remember this is on what 10 approximately 10,000 accounts now that we have utility accounts. Officially last week we reached the 10,000 mark.

So we had 137 on 10,000 accounts. And you figure back in 2017 we had 6,000 and we had a lot more cut offs on those 6,000 than we now have on the 10,000. And it's because Lisa and her staff up front, they keep improving the processes for cut offs and notifications so that we're having fewer and fewer cut offs. So they need to be commended for that. SO AND WE HAVE SOME OTHER WOMEN in the city and we've got Deputy Martin over here representing Bay County Sheriff's Office. So she's another strong leader for our city. I know some of you ladies you're not here, but I know you're watching. So thank you for what you do for the city. Okay. And we will go on now to the mayor's instructions. Do we have any additions or deletions to the agenda?

No.

Okay. And just to review very briefly the public participation rules, you when I call for public input, now you can speak, you know, on each one of the agenda items if you so choose. And then at the end, we have public participation for non-aggenda. But all you need to do when I call for public participation, raise your hand. Once you're recognized, come up to the podium. You can state your name and address for the record if you so choose. But at that point, your three minutes start. So you have three minutes for your item. Like I said, you can speak on each one. So you can have three minutes on each agenda item and three minutes on a non-aggenda item. So with that, we will go on to the approval of the minutes. We've got the minutes of the February 10th, 2026 regular meeting. Oh, no. It says February. It's actually the February 24th minutes. It just didn't get changed on here. So, we've got the February 24th mid meeting minutes. So, did anybody have any corrections to the minutes? If not, I would entertain a motion.

Motion motion to approve. Second. Okay, we've got a motion and a second. If there's no discussion, all in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Okay, motion carries. Then the financial statements are there for your review. I did note a couple things, but um they're just anomalies and I passed them on.

Yeah. Okay. So, this we're talking about at the financial statements. I went, you know, it's a routine. Every year I meet with the auditors because they had to, you know, ask questions of the mayor and they said the audit is going well. Things are pretty close to wrapping up. As always, we're waiting for the joint venture. So, as soon as the joint venture gets in, they'll be able to wrap up the audit and hopefully have it done by the end of the month like we shoot for. So, so we will go on now to our first agenda item. The these two items are under a public hearing. So, we will open the public hearing and the first item is ordinance number 138 smallcale comp plan amendment 5028 and 5030e 4th Street.

Okay. The second uh final reading of ordinance number 1138, an ordinance amending the comprehensive plan of the city of Callaway, acting upon the application of Ryan and Christina Ransburg designating for commercial future land use certain parcels of land lying within the city of Callaway, Florida, consisting of approximately 0.302 more or less acres at parcels located at 5028 and 5030 East Street, Callaway, Florida. Partial IDs 244480000000000 and 24448010 000000 is more particularly described in the body of the ordinance amending the city's future land use map for commercial designation for the parcels repealing ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict here with and providing that this ordinance shall take effect as provided by law.

Okay, city manager Mr. Mr. Fiser, any changes? As requested, we did receive a letter of authorization from the silers to allow Mr. Raspberg to reszone the property that is in the packet attached. Other than that, nothing's changed. Anybody else or anybody have any questions?

No. In seeing that authorization, I have no problems anymore. Nobody has anything. Anybody in the audience want to comment on this item? Not seeing anybody. Would someone like to make a motion on the smallcale comp plan amendment? Uh motion to approve ordinance number 1138 smallcale comp plan amendment for 5028 and 5030 East 4th Street uh with the parcel IDs. Second. Okay, we've got a motion in a second. Is there any discussion? If not, city clerk, Commissioner Bzel, yes. Commissioner Greg, yes. Commissioner Ayes, yes, ma'am.

Mayor Henderson, yes. Okay, we will go on to item number two, ordinance number 1139, which is the reszoning of the property located at 5028 and 5030 East Street.

Right. This is the second final reading of the related item. Ordinance number 1139. An ordinance reszoning from R6M residential single family mobile homes allowed to highway commercial certain parcels of land lying within the city of Cal, Florida, consisting of approximately 0.302 more or less acres. Subarials located at 5028 and 5030 East 4th Street, Calie, Florida. Partial IDs 244480000000000 and 24448 010000000. All is more particularly described in the body of the ordinance repealing all ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict here with and providing that this ordinance shall take effect immediately upon passage.

Thank you. Anything city manager? Y'all saw the change for the previous one. This is just reszoning to match the comp plan. Anybody have any? No question. Did anybody in the audience have any comment on this item? Not seeing anybody. We just need a motion, gentlemen. Motion to approve ordinance 1139, reszoning of property located at 5028 and 5030 East 4th Street. Uh, and the partial IDs are 24448--0000-0000 and 24-448- 010-0000.

Second. Okay, we've got a motion and a second. You call that? Is there any discussion? If not, city clerk, Commissioner Griggs, yes. Commissioner Ays, yes, ma'am. Commissioner Bzoff, yes. Mayor Henderson, yes. Okay, we will close the public hearing and we will go on to agenda item number three. Ordinance number 1140, reszoning of property located at 5,000 block of Whitaker Street. Partial ID is say I think you're well my summary says final reading but it's actually first reading, right? Yes. Yes.

Okay. Just to clarify ordinance number is first reading of ordinance number 1140 an ordinance reszoning from residential multifamily medium density residential to single family R5 certain parcels of land lying within the city of Callaway Florida consisting of approximately 1.912 more or less acres said parcel is located on Whitaker Street Callaway Florida parcel ID 24393 010 010 all is more particularly described in the body of the ordinance ordinance repealing all ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict with and providing that this ordinance shall take effect immediately upon passage.

Mr. Trump Mr. Martin on behalf of Rizzy Development LLC is requesting this resoning. I did get a letter of authorization for this one. Um, it's simply to change it from residential multifamily to residential single family individual lots with houses. Uh, does uh allow for a 5,000 foot lot?

Anybody have any questions for Mr. F? The only thing I remember from the planning board, there was concerns about access to the property. That's more going to be along the lines of the development phase though, correct? On Yes. not figuring out how to get there. Yeah. The the design allows for two access points. Right now, we have a dead end at Douglas, which our fire chief hates. Um, so we'll be eliminating that, and I'm sure they're going to come out on Whitaker. Also, there's uh some preliminary thoughts about that, but nothing's for sure. But the development order stage will take care of all that.

Yeah, we drove by and looked at that today, the city manager and I, and it looked like it's going to be just fine. Did you have something, Commissioner Greg? You look like you had a question.

Uh, no. U more of a comment. Um, we've kind of look at things when we can go into go into let's say stick bit uh homes rather than mobile homes. That's we kind of consider that an improvement. But uh this is also an improvement from going from multifamily to single family. This is another um thing that citizens have been uh looking more homes than apartments and that type of thing. So uh this is a positive what I can see.

Anything else from Mr. F. Did anybody in the audience have any comment on this item?

Yes, ma'am. Karen Kuster, 216 Lanny Road Drive. I guess the thing that we looked at when we drove out there is the adjoining lots, all this property up here that's green, that's all zoned R8. And I would expect that you when you reszone this parcel here that you would try to be consistent with what you already have in the area. Those lots, these lots up here have an average size of 12,850 square ft. So when you build homes on 5,000 square foot lots, the dollar per square feet selling price of those houses is going to be lower. It's going to lower the benchmark dollar per square foot um price of houses right in that area. And so these here, you're going to lower the selling prices of these because you're building small houses here that adjoin those. Um you're going to have more um decreased privacy even of the houses that are R8. You're going to increase the noise, increase the traffic, and with that a lot of times comes increased the crime in the area. And this also conflicts with the comprehensive plan goal of a safe environment. The only one who benefits from resoning to R5 instead of R8 is a developer because he can sell 16 homes perhaps instead of 10 homes. The uh citizens don't benefit from that benefit. It's just the developer who

does. So, I hope I mean I know you always rubber stamp these things and you don't ever say no, at least that I've seen. But I think sometimes you really need to consider does this conform to what's already in the area instead of just saying, "Oh yeah, somebody wants to build. Let's let them build whatever they want to build." um our houses the the last one that you approved they were building 33 foot wide homes on 45 foot lots that had one side um the setback is 5T the other side is 7 ft. So if you had a boat you would never be able to park your boat in the backyard because your truck could not pull your boat through a seven foot opening. You can also your your boat wouldn't fit through there. So, your boats will all be in the front yard. If you have a truck longer than 20 feet, which is pretty much every full-size truck is going to protrude into the street. And so, these are things that you haven't been thinking about when you approve all these that they're not good for the people who buy them. Thank you.

Anybody else want to comment? Not seeing anybody

anymore.

Yeah, I'd like to respond a little bit to that. Thanks for your input, but if you'll notice all the ones in green, not all of them are R8. Some of those have been subdivided. And the houses along Douglas and Whitaker and Bob Little are mostly um duplexes. So they're uh double family dwellings. And um other than building behind one, two, three, four of those lots. Um, I know it's woods right now, but you know, we all have to put up with new housing and um, I'm sure you can take care of that with privacy fences and so forth. So, but thank you for your input.

That's all.

Anybody else? Uh we actually those houses on Collins um those properties we've actually been involved in allowing the um the division of some of those lots because they're they're old lots and old properties uh and the uh experience of what's come before us in the last six to eight years and particularly after the hurricane is the u u people wanting to divide up that property, divide up the properties to either uh change it from res to full residential to actually apartments or in the cases here like uh commissioner was bringing up divide up the properties being old. We don't have and I think the developers don't have many people that are saying I want a a acre or two or three acre pieces of property. It's actually going the reverse. The same thing what we're seeing on uh um with the possibility of what's coming up on Highway 22 and what's going to be backing up to the properties on um Bicycle. those wide properties are g we've actually gotten information that some of those properties when all this comes about they're going to divide up. They don't want that much property.

People people don't want yards and things nowadays to have to maintain. They want minimum amount of property. They want smaller houses because that's more affordable. They don't want a bigger house on a bigger lot because that costs more money. Yeah. I think we're a stickler on the rules and I don't think we've rubber stamped anything. No,

no, I think that um we have a lot of experience up here. I'm not one with a lot of experience, but some experience, but we have a lot of experience up here and they know to ask the questions and it does educate the rest of us at the same time. And I appreciate Commissioner Griggs and the mayor and of course our city manager and Bill Fry that I know they've been around for a long time. So, thank you. Anybody else have any comment? Yes, Mr. Shanger.

Ron Shanger in Kevin Circle. One thing about these smaller lots, if you get a neighbor, they think you got to burn everything. And you know, they're right there next to you in the smoke every place and they're burning their plastic bags and their garbage. I had one such neighbor and uh anyway, why you know, you might not like their music. You know, they may want to practice their drones or hear their boom boxes or something. I got another neighbor that loves their boom box. seem to get it fired up about Sunday noon,

but uh you know, I mean, it just it's disgusting sometimes when you put people too close together. They got some bad habits. Yeah. And the burn thing I I don't think should be allowed to sit. I mean, it just I was going to say they shouldn't be doing You need to maybe call the fire department when about 8:00 one cool evening here. I mean, it was still the neighbor house felling up with smoke. I checked the other side and looked and uh

stinking smoke and called the fire department Sunday evening about 8:00. It was dark and I looked out and I seen fire back there and I I didn't know what I thought about it. They said he was about done. I had trash pick up. That's the good thing about the fire department. There's always somebody there. It doesn't matter if it's Sunday night or Saturday morning to call and let them. Well, I see sometimes a ban on open burning. I mean, it just another one, you know, he likes to scrap wire. You know, he he'll burn up old plastic insulation once in a while and you know, I mean, it just illegal. Anyway, that's all I got.

Call the fire department, Mr. Shainer, because those things are illegal. There's a code against burning, you know, burning leaves and that kind of thing, but as far as household garbage in there, code against that. Absolutely. If he's burning wire, that's crime. No, we need to know the address. Next time he does, I'll be it. Which which neighbor is that, Ron? On the corner of

You're two houses down from the corner, right? Well, the neighbor directly behind me, he he's the one that likes to burn there, you know, the one across from me there on Lakewood, you know, lawnmowers and stuff. Once in a while there, he likes to, you know, get his wire and all that stuff burn. I guess he sells copper wire. I'm not happy about it. Smell it. Cold. Mhm.

Anybody else want to comment? Not seeing anybody. Would someone like to make a motion? I make a motion to approve ordinance number 1140, reszoning of property located at 5,000 block of Whitaker Street, parcel ID number 24393- 010- 010. First reading second. Okay, we've got a motion in a second. There any other discussion? If not, city clerk. Commissioner Ayes. Yes, ma'am. Commissioner Bzville, yes. Commissioner Griggs, yes. Mayor Henderson. Yes.

Okay. We will go on to item number four. Variance from the city of Callaway code of ordinances to allow livestock. Don't have don't have anything to read this. No. That was on table from last time. Yes. City Manager, did you want to say anything about this or um Well, I wasn't here at the last meeting unfortunately. Well, Mr. Bill, did you handle this? Yes, he did. We'll let Mr. Bill come up. Mr. Bill. Mr. Bill. Oh, NO. That's

all right. So, this was tabled at the last meeting upon a request for the code enforcement complaint information. That information has been in added to the packet. It's a first couple pages in of a detailed report. Just want to point out that the the complainant also signed a uh temporary livestock permit that Mrs. Bourne kind of made up. I think she went around and had some signatures as she was making friends with the neighbors. Um, if you have any questions, I'll answer them as best I can. The boards are here. So if we approve this, it's a variance for 14 months and or until you guys leave.

So I'm personally good with that. So the variance would be very specific on the animals, the individual animals. They can't couldn't add any more and it's also for a limited period of time. And if you decide to stay, the animals would have to go. She No, you can't. Yes. So, you can't be asking her questions. She's got to be up here. She's going to be speaking. So, I'm kind of let my thoughts go. Yeah. Did anybody have any question or anything? But they've already submitted the orders. They got to go.

Thank you. There there are two things in violation here is number one is the lobtock. Number two is the quantity because they only allowed four. And how many do they have? Few more than four. Say nine. How many? Nine. Nine. The chickens don't count. Yeah, I'm just counting the animals that she has listed here.

And u that's really a problem. Um, and very honestly, um, they have good grounds for the realtor is the one that's involved with this. U property owner should have done their own due diligence, but the realtor actually advertised that this was allowed. And this is, you know, is a different part of the advertisement. Now, personally, I have received been received a call from um say the real organization because I hit them pretty hard at the last meeting and uh I'm not changing my views on the agent and the broker involved in this because they sold these people is definitely a misrepresentation. a whole bill of goods. Um, and I'm I'm very I'm actually very disappointed that the um people involved here um are almost taking that situation as well, that's the way it is. And I don't blame the realtor and and that kind of irritate that's kind of irritating me. I'm sitting up here blaming the realtor for selling you a bill bill bill of goods and the and the people are not uh u don't have the same attitude. So u and they definitely have a legal attitude. I just have a voice. So, um it's it's put us in a position and as I told SEAR and when they were talking to me that um

um that's uh don't appreciate us being put in the position of having to um put a little history to approval of of two separate u situations involving our codes. So you know later on somebody might think that not remember though well this is just 14 months and all the history of illness and everything else u that's the way it is but u I'm making my statement because I want to make sure that if we approve this that u at least it's not going to it's not going to be approved by me again and and I would hope that the uh the uh property owners uh do take some action on this. But uh that's all I've got to say.

Anybody else have anything? What was the PCS date? What month? You're welcome. July PCS no later than he has to start work no later than July 7th of 2027. Thank you. June of 2027. I knew it was written on one of these pages. It's just a lot. I believe the LAST

and um looking at the people that signed this note um I'm familiar with them because we've had a lot issues with your property now your property after the hurricane involving trees and other things over there. So I've been very personally involved in that and some these people have been involved in it. So, uh you've got some very good neighbors. So, um in respect of them and the whole situation and what I can do and not do, um I'm going to approve this. So, when we take a vote,

anybody up here have anything else? Did anybody in the audience want to comment on this?

Yes, ma'am. So, I know yall are going to approve this, too, but that's how it goes. Um, my heart goes out to the Bors who give so much back to the community because a real estate agent did a poor job checking facts about the house they purchased. However, as Commissioner Griggs said, every real estate contract requires that the buyers check the facts themselves, referred to as performing due diligence before closing a real estate transaction. This house is within the city limits of Callaway. So, the buyers and the agent should have checked with the city of Callaway regarding keeping livestock, not just with Bay County. However, as Mayor Henderson stated earlier, the rules are the rules. The commission should not set the precedent of giving residents permission to violate section 4-8 keeping livestock or foul livestock or foul within the city limits. They have nine animals, three goats, three sheep, two pigs, and alpaca. There will be endless protest from other residents in the future who want to keep just one cow or one goat or one horse. What are you going to say to them? Well, no, it was okay for her. She had nine of them. That was okay, but it's not okay for you to keep one cow or goat or horse. That's not fair. Jennifer already stated that she was willing to board the animals elsewhere. Unfortunately, that's is is what needs to be done. They may be able to get monetary relief by filing a complaint about the listing agent, Vienna Seaman, with the title company where they signed the final documents

with the Florida Real Estate Commission and Coal Banker Carol Realy. They could use the funds to help pay the boarding expenses of the animals. Um, so I recommend that you vote no. Um, thank you. Thank you. Anybody else want to comment? Yes, ma'am.

Hello, I'm Jennifer Bourne. Um, as far as doing our due diligence, um, I there is a page in there. Um we did ask our realtor. She said she did call um Bay County and also the city of Callaway. Um so we had that, you know, confirmation from her. And then we also looked at our deed which is in there and it says SFR land use and then it says land use type and it says capital A capital C. I googled in the state of Florida what does capital A capital C stand for regarding SFR land use and it says agriculture commission/ agriculture. When I spoke to the Bay County planning man he explain explained to me that they use AC as acorage. So it was an honest to goodness like I assumed what would I assume anything else like I I did check what AC meant and as far as I was Google says agriculture commission which I included in that. So I truly didn't dig is there another option that might possibly be the same thing as this acronym. So I truly didn't think that I had to do any more digging when it says AC but it as now since this has happened I have since googled and it says it can also be used as acreage. So it's honest to goodness truly a misunderstanding on my part truly. Thank you.

Thank you.

Yes sir. Martin Gosser 6303 Wallace Road. So, I love animals. I hope that you guys approve of variance for this, especially if it's a limited time. I get it that there have been people that we don't want to set historical precedents, but that's fine. It's a variance. It's not too bad of a thing. If we are going to, you know, as a as a community say that that's not possible, that they're not allowed to to board those things, that's ridiculous. I can't afford to board my dogs. I can't afford to board my dogs. I'm fighting pancreatic cancer right now. I can't afford to board my dogs so my wife can go to UAB where I have my procedure. So, you know what I did? I pushed it off until May. That's ridiculous to ask these people to board their animals for that long. Ridiculous. There's no reason that people can't say, "Okay, the head of alpaca. His name's Arthur. It's on the paper. It's amazing." You know, I live by the goats. We had a bad situation. We only have like four goats now. Everybody knows where the goats are. And yes, maybe there were some that were, you know, in in bad need of care and pirates would take care of those. But people miss the goats. I don't know if y'all talk to anybody about the goats. People miss the goats, you know. It's not like they have a petting zoo and you can go feed Arthur, but it's an amazing thing. And there's no reason why if it's a I mean if it's until now until like everybody you know moves out of Calary because they're mad at at Arthur, you know. Uh it's ridiculous. I wake up every day and I

got to hear this freaking rooster.

Okay. Wallace 6303 Wallace Road. I don't know where this guy's coming from. He's super annoying. You know, I've never heard I've drove in that area. I've never heard anything. I've these stupid doves make this weird noise. I can't like they make a noise and they're allowed, you know. No, we don't have to have a permit for these doves, you know, these squirrels that are in my backyard was making these noises, you know, but uh to ask them to board their animals, it's ridiculous. I say that there should be no reason why they're not allowed. I I get they're they're over a number. You know, they have however many and they're supposed to have a certain number. It's okay. They're leaving and maybe, you know, maybe I'll be up here asking for a variance cuz Arthur's going to hang out with me. I don't know how much food he needs, but you know, since the goats ain't there, maybe people will drop off food to feed Arthur.

Thank you. Anybody else want to say anything? Anybody gentlemen? Could someone like to make a motion?

I'll make one more one more comment. I did mention SEAR and for those of you who do do not know what SEAR is the that is um uh the Bay County Association of Realtors and u it's a central central panhandle association of realtors which cart is but um in a very lengthy conversation with them Um, in remembering some of the things that have happened nationally over the years, I would use a phrase that was used few years ago. This situation became kind of a teaching moment. no beer involved or anything else, but it's a teaching moment that uh that maybe a little wakeup call to some of the realtors because they got over 2,000 realtors in the central panhandle and all. So, um I'm I'm hopeful that uh CPAR will um help awaken some of those 200 uh in this and u anyway just want to bring that up and I think they will. So,

anyone else? Ready for a motion? Motion to approve variance from the city of Callaway Court of Ordinances to allow livestock. Second limited period for the day. Okay, we've got a motion and a second there. Any other discussion? If not, all in favor say I.

I. Any opposed? Okay, motion carries. So, you have your 14month variance. You don't have to board your animals. just can't get anymore. We will go on now to item number five, discussion about Fourth of July celebration. Would you like to address this since Mr. Peller is not here?

Um, yeah. Uh, Commissioner Pelleter put this on the agenda for discussion and um, staff has had multiple conversations about the Fourth of July celebration that we have. Of course, last year um, it was in the middle of the day. Um, it was extremely hot. We had very poor turnout. We're going to have another issue this year just off the fact that uh the fourth is on a Saturday and most of the community celebrations are going to be happening on the Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Um we as y'all know we looked at a potential drone show. Um, and I think the cheapest prices we got were about 30,000 LM somewhere around $30,000 for a what is it? 20-minut show. 30-minut show.

11 minutes. 11 minutes. Okay. That's a lot per minute there. Yeah. 3,000 a minute.

Yeah. Three 3,000 a minute. Okay. So, um, you know, we're back to, uh, I'm not going to hold anything back. Staff is adamantly against the Fourth of July celebration. We are already taking multiple holidays away from staff and this is a family holiday. Um, and so, you know, uh, we just need direction. We will follow whatever this commission so chooses to do. We don't know when we would want to have it unless we wanted to try to have it during the day again, but we're going to be dealing with hot temperatures. Do we have it a week before? That means you're going to be having it in June. Um,

well, and we know it's just we never used to do anything Fourth of July. It's just I think the last two years that we've done a Fourth of July, we never did anything before that. Two or three? Huh? I think it was three. Three. Yes, sir. But I know it's just it's just been in recent years. We didn't used to do anything Fourth of July because I know Len Haven does the parade and they have a lot going on. Panama City used to have a lot at the marina. I don't know what Panama City does now.

They still do. So, I mean those things attract more people. But it was last year people came. They ate hot dogs instead. Then they were like it's too hot and they left. And I think we were doing from 10 to 2, but by noon most everybody was gone.

Yeah, I think the taxpayers would appreciate a break. So I I I think with all the other celebrations throughout Panama City and the beach and everything, I think we're covered. If we want to participate in something, maybe join with another city next year. But this year, let's take a break. I'd even rather see us instead of doing Fourth of July when there are so many other things going on, maybe we have something at a time when nobody else is having anything. You know, we do Fourth of July.

No. Yeah. Not Fourth of July. No. You know, maybe we do some fall festival or just maybe direct our funding toward another time that people wouldn't be so pulled in different directions. You know, in the fall it wouldn't be as hot maybe, but maybe do something a little bit different. Oh, we do have the amphitheater. That's it. See, once we had that, maybe we could do something in the amphitheater and direct those $30,000 for 11 minutes of drone show to something that everybody could enjoy. I I get you a 20-minute fireworks show for 30,000.

I don't think that's worth a 30 either. You can come over on my street. My neighbors put off stuff and it wouldn't cost anything. Just I imagine most everybody has some neighbor that does that. So maybe even that you just assume they didn't do a long weekend. Yeah. So I mean what does anybody think? Y'all chime in. I'm in agreeance. if it's putting a burden on our city workers already. You already had low turnout um year in and year out. Like it it seems like not a good use of our dollars. Yeah, that's

well um I agree with not having it, but that means that um that was one of the events that we were cooking hot dogs and so got ball games out here on the weekend. If I get real upset, I'm sure we can go cook some of them somewhere else. But there's probably a game tonight even that let you hop right into the snack bar. There's always something, you know, kite day's coming up. Yeah. Of course, they usually Deputy Martin the 11th of April. The 11th of April. Okay. Your your son going to help us wrap if we do that. He has a shooting competition that morning. So maybe maybe before the day is over.

Well, you you usually you usually cook the hot dogs for that, don't you? I did last year. Yeah. Yeah. But we do have a fishing tournament for kids. No, we don't. But I don't think we do. Do do we we do hot dogs? Well, see, there you go. We can. Yeah, but the point the point is that um we're not going to do the 4th of July. So, well, I mean, that seems to kind of be the consensus. My view. I'm good. It's Yeah, it's I don't think it's really worth it. Now, Bob was a grill master, but he's not here tonight, so he didn't have a vote. There's plenty other times we can grill hot dogs and wrap hot dogs. So, it's unanimous.

Well, I mean, do we need a vote with the consensus good enough? Yeah, I'm fine. Whatever. All four of you agree. So, yeah, we just you need this discussion.

Yes. I mean, would anybody like to hear from y'all? Anybody want to chime in on their thoughts? I think the only thing that the point that uh mayor pel mayor commissioner pelleter had is that it's our 250th anniversary. So I think that's why he wanted to make sure we strong we really considered it before we didn't do anything because it's really important our 250th birthday. Well, I'm sure we can do a proclamation and stuff. Decorations to do decoration.

Yeah. I mean, we put the banners. We'll put the banners up, I imagine, that we put up at Veterans Day. We could do the, you know, we could do some decorating things and, you know, we could do some different touches that wouldn't involve everybody doing something on actual Fourth of July. Tim, is Cherry Street going to be completed by that? Jan will next year. Jan will be done. The intersection of Jan will be done. So you can at least drive down the majority of it maybe. We can have a two block if we do it next year. That's 251. But we could probably come up with just simple. We sure can.

Yeah. I mean, we can decorate. We can do some additional decorations. something. Yeah, we can do some things without having to have something on that particular day. Yeah, we can put flags on all our vehicles. I put a flag on the back of mine like we do for Veterans Day.

Well, that was our last agenda item. Did anybody else want to say anything? Okay, I don't see anybody. So, don't want to cut anybody off. Okay. Lot's been going on. We'll go to commission comments. A lot's been going on these last two weeks. We had the day after our last commission meeting, we had a TPO meeting. In fact, thank you to I know we have several citizens here that attended. We have at least one citizen that attended that isn't here tonight. So, thank y'all for showing interest in coming out. I mean, y'all know there were quite a few things regarding Callaway on the agenda. One of the really good things at the beginning of the meeting, I always ask the FDOT representatives that I always ask him, where do we stand on Highway 22? You know, what can we do? What's it going to take? Well, he had some more positive news this time that they're trying to get that. There are two different pots of there's actually more than two, but there are strategic interotal system projects and there are nonstrategic interotal system projects. The cyst projects get funded easier. There's more money and they get funded easier. Up until this time, Highway 22 has been a nonsis. They're looking at somehow combining Highway 22 with Star Avenue project and maybe making that would make it eligible possibly for CIS funds, which means we may get some funding for Highway 22. So, everybody say a prayer, keep your fingers crossed that maybe we're moving forward with Highway 22. And then some of the other things, uh, and y'all know there was some kind of heated discussion, we had the Bua Sidewalk Project for a transportation alternative project. And you know, we were told because city manager said it,

we were told, y'all had the only project submitted. you, you know, better be the one that sent to the state. Well, then a few days later after the deadline had passed, we're told that, well, Linhaven submitted their project late, but we scored it and blah blah blah. We're going to submit it as the number two. Well, the issue is with the state, they can, you know, they don't have to follow what CPO says. They can say, "Well, this project got more points, so we're going to flip them." So we had a very heated discussion about it. Ultimately it ended up that both projects got sent in. Calls project was the number one project. It is a less costly project. So I mean things are in our favor. I know there's some other things being done behind the scenes to try to make sure that we get funding for the project. So, I'll let you know when I hear something else. But, you know, I mean, you're you know, we stood up, city manager, you know, he was traveling. He sent his message, you know, his statement to be read. Commissioner Griggs and I pushed for it. So, we're trying and hopefully that one's going to be funded and it won't be an issue. And then one other thing and this is good news also the long range transportation plan they are now adding now this is like the 2050 plan but still it's step number one they're adding highway 22 from Star Avenue to 2297. Up till now it was just from Tinder Parkway to Star Avenue. Now they're going to extend that from Star up to 2297. So, I think that was everything.

Widening project.

Yes, the widening project. So, that's going to be extended. So, hopefully we'll get the first part funded and then later on we'll get the other part funded. But it feels like we're making progress. So, the next thing last Friday was the women build. I participated in the women build over at the Habitat for Humanity Village. And the the really good news, you know, they have four homes now. Bill Kramer sponsored the first one. Publiclix sponsored the second one. Both of those are completed in their families living in them. The seven credit unions sponsored the one that's being worked on now. And now Publix has come back and they are sponsoring another one. So those are four homes that that have sponsors that will be done and families will move in. And then Saturday was opening day for baseball and softball. Tim and his crew did another outstanding job. The fields looked great. Everything was wonderful. We had what did you say? Over 600 kids that were signed up.

600 just in soccer. Oh my gosh. Baseball. I'm not sure what the numbers ended up, but somewhere around 250.

I was going to say there were a lot of kids out there. The ones of you that were there, you know, there were a lot of kids out there on the field. But that was a lot of fun. And yesterday, city manager and I went up to the EOC. They are going to conduct like a fullscale exercise to practice for, you know, some kind of disaster hitting this area so that all the cities can participate. Any cities that want to will participate and you can test different segments of your city, different departments, whatever you want to do. So, we're working with the group to put a scenario together and come up with some things to test. That will be done probably in May sometime. And then last night, we most of us attended the Bay County League of Cities meeting where the speaker was the administrator for the new hospital that's being built on the beach. The good thing about that, my commander from out at Tindle attended also because he's concerned, you know, Tindle doesn't have a hospital any longer. So, anybody from Tindle that needs medical care, they have to be if it's, you know, something they need transported, they have to be transported to here, G Coast or Sacred Heart. So, he was asking, you know, about medical treatment in this area. So, we're actually setting up a meeting between the the administrator for the new hospital, city manager, myself, and the colonel from Tindle to see, you know, what are some options that we could maybe get for the east side so that we have medical treatment right here in our area. So hopefully that's something that will maybe come to fruition in the near future. And that's everything I have. So, Commissioner Berg, we'll go on to you.

Thank you, ma'am. Um, so for the last few weeks, I've been fielding a lot of phone calls and emails from citizens about road problems, uh, water outages. Um, for the most part, whenever I had these, I've been able to get it over to Mr. Cook. It's been addressed pretty quickly. The citizens have had positive responses. I do have one spot that there was some flooding that the road likes to flood when it rained hard the other day that I need to address with you. Okay.

Um, and some speeding that's been ongoing. We've talked about that. um have had a lot of positive results about the roundabout progress. Everybody is very pleased that that is moving along um faster than anticipated. So um I'd like to apologize for missing uh the opening day the other day as a former coach. Um but I was working as EMS that day, so unable to attend. Is that it? Yes, ma'am. Mr. Gregs, well, you missed it, but uh Commissioner Peloter, I think uh did throw the ball across the plate and uh uh so did our mayor, Big Red.

Well, I expect I saw a bounce on Pelleteers. You saw a bounce on pellete? Yeah, he bounced it over. Oh, okay. From my angle, I couldn't. So, I'm just Mine didn't bounce. No, yours was first. Big red was right there. See, I had the bottle to prove it.

Um, Madame Mayor, you covered just about everything of what we've been doing, but I'm going I'm going to add to it a little bit. Um, on the TPO that we're part of and our citizens are part of. I'm looking at Paul over there, Paul Boac. Um but um that's Bay County TPO and we're representative of Callaway, but we make decisions based on u everything. It's we just can't say we're only going to make a decision if it benefits Callaway. But uh on that sidewalk situation where um Lyn Haven was late and by the way um you're probably the most informed I think most informed uh group of citizens because we let you know everything positive and negative. Uh that was a situation that was going to look like it was going to be negative for us. But understanding the process and we brought this up very clearly in the in the TPO meeting that these recommendations go to the state and then the state looks at certain things and what they look at is the ranking that the TPO gives it gives the project. we're allowed to submit three projects um for our TPO. Uh and um the in this case there were two projects where the one was late due to computer error or whatever the situation was. Um the state was actually telling us that um that particular project

was due to a state computer error um timely. So what TPO had to do was say all we take a look at it. They scored the scoring that takes place. There are three things that take place. uh and uh one of them is the cost that TPO looks at the cost of the project uh the scoring of the project with the various factors and u then we make a decision on what we're going to be submitting to the state. The key to us was that we the TPO um regardless of the scoring gave Callaway the number one position. It also uh Callaway has the number one position if you will on dollars. So the state looks at the position of the recommendation and the amount of dollars. They don't do anything related to the scoring. That's up to us. That's up to the TPO to make that decision and that's that's the state's position. So when this recommendation of these two projects went to the state, we were number one and round numbers we're 200,000 on the dollars. Um Lyn Haven is number two and what is it? four four almost 500,000 on the dollars. So what we were suggesting to the state, look at the ranking and look at the dollars because very honestly we we're competing for part of only $3 million. And that's that's across all what is it? Four districts.

Yeah.

Four four TPOs from here to the Alabama line. and and uh so we think we're in a very good position on that. Um particularly if the state's looking at that, they don't look at the scoring. That was our job to look at the scoring at the TPO. So I think we I think we uh we're okay with that. And also Lyn Haven, and I'll give them some credit. We had to give them credit before. Len Haven realized what has taken place and they actually made the motion if I recall. I made the motion um that we have the scoring that way and they totally agree with it. So um

that's it. That's it. Okay, I'll wait for Eddie. Commissioner Ayes.

Okay, it was like the mayor said, it's been really busy. saw just run through this quickly. Uh attended the uh St. Andrews St. Joe Bay estuary committee meeting. They also helped with cleanups around the state around the community. Um the state park had a cleanup this weekend and of course they participated with that. I couldn't go to that because I went to the opening ceremonies for baseball. Um I attend the FSU speaker series. Shannon Bream was there. Uh Fox News uh first Friday we were briefed on the new FSU Health Panama City Beach hotel I mean hospital and it's going to be a teaching hospital along with a huge facility. It was going to be 180 bed 100 beds. It's now over 180. So it's going to be quite um quite the hospital. Um attended opening day. After that, I went to Habitat for Humanity, the women's build on Saturday and um I didn't actually build. I just helped supervise. So, and then attended the League of Cities and got a chance to put in a word with uh Andrew Star. Uh he's the administrator for that hospital and hopefully we can get something out here in Callaway. And that's all I have.

Okay. Well, city clerk, do you have anything for us? No. City attorney, but who you city manager? So, tell us all about it. I'm not You don't want to get me preaching on the TPO and the state glitch cuz it didn't exist. I already know. Accept what you can accept. I'm not done.

I don't lose easy. Um the roundabout, we're probably a couple weeks off to having that one completed. We're waiting on a signage and striping and we'll get that intersection open as quickly as possible. Hopefully we won't have to have the sheriff stand out there and hand out brochures on how to use it. Uh Sandy Creek still in environmental waiting on the state, but they have been throwing RFIs at us left and right. We're getting those answered and getting them back quick. Also, uh we're still under uh the environmental for the uh spillway project and uh it looks like that one's about to move through really really quickly. So,

um the lift stations, the five that we're redoing, we're about 3/4 of the way done with the second one and then we'll be moving over, I believe, to the one up in front of Walmart that has the damaged fence. So, that one that project's uh on time and running smooth. Uh Hugh Thomas is, you know, we had some planned outages. We had an outage today. They were actually doing the best they could. They were looking for a line with a post hole digger, but that that glass pipe that we've got, he managed to hit it right square, dead in the center, and it just split it right down the middle. We did get that restored by lunch. And uh uh I tell them, don't put another shovel in the ground. So, I think we're going to be okay to hurry and get you, Thomas, done. Uh, the West Cherry Street sidewalk project, y'all seen they've been going really, really fast on that. We're about a month out. It's going to take a little bit longer because as we get closer to Tendle Parkway, we run into some additional areas up there we got to be real careful with. So, uh, would like to tell youall that the we have been doing the audit this week. The auditors have been in um, they're actually I don't I don't I think they're done today, right?

Yes. Yep. they will not be coming back. So, uh you know, we're waiting on the joint venture. They've done everything that they need through the city side of it and we'll be waiting that one. Speaking of all that, we did receive from the government finance officers association the certificate of achievement for excellence in financial reporting. This is for 2024. The audit that we're doing now is for 2025 that we will submit also. Get a Yeah, it's And it's heavy, too. It looks heavy. The great thing about it though is is you know, of course this is under Mr. Schultz and everything, but this is the eighth year or seventh year. Is it seventh? Seventh year in a row. Yes.

Yes. This is the seventh year in a row that we've received that for our for our financial reporting. It looks like is it each year you'll just get a little round thing to add to it? Nope. We filled up the other one. Well, that's what I mean. Well, they keep adding to that. Yeah. Yeah. Next year they won't give us this nice thing. They'll just give us another little button to stick on there. But we filled our other one up, so they had to give us another city manager. I'd like to point out that last year we didn't receive that is Hurricane Michael. Correct. That same year. Yeah. Well, and I think for a while we didn't actually submit. Correct. There were for a couple of years that we didn't submit and then we started submitting again. That is correct.

Okay. Uh last thing we'll talk a little bit about Cherry Street and some of the things that are going on. Um we're hoping to start uh we're in the process of as y'all know at the last meeting. Kevin, thank you so much for presenting uh the need for us to go ahead and get that. Uh there were some comments made. I want to clear a lot of stuff up about how that went down. So we have cast iron pipe underneath Jerry Street. It's old. In fact, it looks a lot worse than what we were expecting it to. When we exposed it and we saw it, we were like, we need to we want to replace this. So, internally, staff has been getting a list together of the materials. We were going to take that, cost it out, bring it back to the commission. Some of the commissioners, actually, I had told them it was going to be coming. Uh, Commissioner Eras was was one of them that, you know, I told him, I said, "We're gonna we need to really go ahead and replace all of the water line underneath Cherry Street. Another thing, too, is part of it's going to be underneath the street. We don't want that. We want to move it over under the sidewalk where if we ever do have an issue, um, you know, we can just dig the the sidewalk up and we can pour it back and it won't be an issue." So, I mean, if we're going to do this project, we need to do it and we need to do it right. That means let's go ahead and and while we're in there, we are going to do it all in house. All we need to do is buy materials. So, actually what had happened was on that Tuesday morning of the last meeting. I got a phone call from our utilities supervisor and he said that, "Hey, we've ran into a major problem." When they were going through, they realized the pipe was not in the place that they thought it was going to be. and that pipe needed to be moved immediately.

So, we needed to move forward for that one section. We broke it out. I had a meeting with Ashley. We talked about our time frames. We called in Kevin. We all discussed it and said the best way to do it was there's three manufacturers locally that's going to be the ones to supply us. We needed to have it done within two weeks, which is the bid period that we put it out and then take two weeks to get it in. We would have delayed the project. delaying the project. Unfortunately, as much as the contractors have delayed us, it works both ways. If we delay them, it counts against us. So, we opted to come forward with just that first section that we were unaware was in the way. And that's what happened at the last meeting. And we come forward. Now, the next phase that we're going to be looking at is we're going to go from Star Avenue um all the way to Bertha, and we will we're going to replace that whole run of line. Basically, the way it's going to work is we've already got our materials list. Ashley is working on putting out a bid for it.

It went out today.

It went out today. Yeah. So, we can get some pricing on it. We're expecting pricing to be around $200,000, but if we would have had a contractor put this in, the price would have been about $400 or $500,000 for them to do it because we alls we need some materials. Our guys are more than capable and chopping at the bit to go in and move this water line. What we're going to do is staff's going to come back to this commission and we're going to ask y'all to um basically this is an unbudgeted item. We want to take it out of impact fees for multiple reasons. Number one, we lack some fire hydrants and we need to add some additional fire hydrants in there. Chief has been adamantly working with Thomas on this. Also, another thing is this is a I believe it's a 6 inch, isn't it, Bill?

Yeah. Some of six. We're going to move this up to a 10 inch. This is going to increase fire protection in that area. And chief, I think you will attest some of those areas definitely need very important that area. Yeah, we have some areas. So that being said, we're going to be increasing the capacity size, increasing fire protection while we go through and do this. So that makes it eligible for impact.

Makes it eligible for for impact fees. And we do have impact fees to cover this. So we're going to come back to this commission and we're going to be asking y'all to approve a budget amendment to pull from the our impact fee fund to pay for this because it is an unfunded mandate. We're going to go ahead and put it out, see what the costs come in. We expect it to be somewhere around $200,000 for for that section. And then we'll come back and do the next session, which is going to be

Yeah, it's going to go birth at Kendall. We're going to go ahead and take it all the way down. That'll also loop that section. There is a break in that section right now that's not looped, but we will be able to loop this section out completely um with the main lines, one on Star, one on Tindle Parkway. So, I just wanted to get some of that confusion. This was not something that we staff wasn't hiding anything. We were prepared to come and discuss it and I was going to actually talk to you'all about at the last meeting. Unfortunately, when we realized that that line was in the way and the contractor said, "What are you going to do with this?" The only fix was to go ahead and do that section. So, we broke it out that Tuesday morning and of course with me not being able to be here to explain it, I you know, it was kind of a difficult throwing it on Kevin at the last minute and him not really understanding the full grasp of it, but knowing what we needed to do got passed.

You did fine. Yeah, that's right. So, that's what we're looking at now. Um, this will go out for how long? A couple weeks. 14 days. So, it'll go out for 14 days. Close on the 24th. And when's our next meeting? The 24th. But I couldn't We'll see. That's as soon as I could do it. Yeah. Okay. So, on the 24th, um, we'll probably have the budget amendment in there so we can go ahead and purchase it. They're getting ready to move down to Star Avenue. We are working with the contractors, so that's actually keeping our labor cost down, too. They've got the machines out there once they go through and they mill that section up and it's going to be all the way on that section. Water line's all the way on the south side, isn't it, Bill?

Yeah, it'll be completely on the south side and as they go, we're just going to go right in front of them and we're going to go ahead and run that all the way down. Um, we'll have we'll have controlled outages. Uh, in other words, we will put the line in first and then we'll take it like a street at a time where we can actually go and make contact with each resident and say, "Hey, your water's going to be off this day for approximately 20 or 30 minutes when we switch the lines over, but they will be under a bull water notice." So, that's that's kind of what our plan is right now. Uh, other than that, you know, every time we put a shovel in the ground on Cherry Street, we find a new structure that we've never seen before. But we're going to continue on because we want this product to when it's over with. We This is going to be a destination street and and it's going to look real good and it'll be something that these residents are proud of and they won't have to mess with it for another 75 years or better. In other words, Tim, me and you ain't going to be here.

We just have to take all the heat while it's going on. Years like I thought any of us. Did I cover everything? Yes, you did. Um, and it's it's very good that you could come up with the and legally come up with the using impact fees for this, but this is also a situation that the infrastructure taxes could have covered. Yes. Correct. As well, but you're limited on what you can do with the impact fees,

right? but you have less limitations on the infrastructure. So, being able to use the impact fees is great. So, good job. Good job, Kevin. Y'all coming up with this oversizing it. Again, you can't just do normal operation and maintenance, but yeah. For future growth, you're good.

You know, this is kind of a shout out to to staff that they've been recognizing they're they're staying ahead of the projects as they come forward. So, we we're going to run into the same situation on Gay Avenue when we do that paving that's coming up. They've already went out and identified that some of these lines are so small. Some of them are just 2 in that are feeding multiple houses and some of it's Yep. Yeah. They're very, very small. They need to be four or better. And so, we're going to be working. We're looking at some placements right now. And we'll we probably want to go ahead and replace the water lines now. Also, we'll do the service lines. All of our crosssections that have to go across, we'll lay that pipe in the ground. So, when they do come back and do the overlay, we'll be ahead of the game on on that.

But it's just once again, it's it's a fire issue. I mean, we just

Well, like Kevin was saying, um, the real difference is that you're improving the situation. And if you'd come back with the same size line and all that business, you couldn't use the impact. But by improving it, you can use it. And we'll have it for future for uh is it Lanny Road Drive that makes the U. We need to go in there and replace that line. That line needs replacing. If y'all remember, that was part of a there was questions in the beginning about that being on the lead service, but it wasn't lead pipe. It's it's cast. Once again, it's cast, but

um we need I think we need don't we need another hydrant in there? Put one. Yeah, we need to put a hydrant on that circle because there's not one back there. There's just we as we go through and we see these needs, we're going to be coming back and going and so that we can justify them. This is just a matter of we need fire protection in that area. So, definitely. Well, I couldn't I couldn't believe they all came up with came up with a they had a 2inch line in there. two inch line is is like one fire hose, right? If it's someone flush as a toilet, it might affect my pumper. That's how bad it is over there. Yeah.

So, we're just trying to identify so we can get line sizes corrected and we can get new pipe in the ground cuz, you know, my number one thing is once a road gets paid, I do not want to see a road cut. No, that's all I got unless y'all have any questions for me. He cover everything y'all had. Good. Jeff, one question. Uh, you talked about the lift station uh right there, I guess, for Walmart Waterburger. How much, uh, traffic impact will that have when they're working on it? They have an access service road that goes back up in there and they'll be doing everything from there. Cool. Okay.

Okay. Let me go ahead and read the announcement. We have planning board meetings. It look like there will be a planning board meeting. Okay. March 17th. That's next Tuesday. Historical Society. That's not right. The 21st. It's the 15th.

It's the 15th. 15th.

So that's wrong. It's not March 21st. Historical society meets on March 15th. Jeannie Weekes will be talking about yesterday, today, and tomorrow. I'm not sure. That's the tide left her talk. I'm not sure what it's going to be about. And then next commission meeting is March 24th right here at 6 PM. Historical society is in the museum at 2:00 p.m. that Sunday afternoon. So I'm not aware of anything else that's going on in the next two weeks. So that will bring us up to public participation. Who in the audience would like to speak on something we haven't already talked about? Um, one thing real quick. Um, Chamber of Commerce is having a get together on the 12th from 5 to 7. It's been moved to the 26th due.

Is that the black party? Yep. Okay. Okay. How about to in Okay, cool. Yeah. And thank you, Mr. McCamry is here again from the chamber. So, thanks for coming and supporting Callaway. No problem. Thank you. And it's I saw somebody over here. On the 21st, we have the voter safety day at Park. Okay. 9 a.m. Okay. That's what's March 21st. Tim, would you mind explaining that real quick? Yeah. Yes.

I need you to come to the podium. Yes, please. Yeah, we'll be having a ribbon cutting for the life jacket loaner station that we've built over there. Um that's through a grant project and that's um supplied by the Coast Guard. And um they'll also be doing um boat in safety inspections that day. And um we'll have several people there from Marine Patrol and Coast Guard out there. And what time? It starts at 9:00 a.m. 9:00 a.m. Okay. Yeah. Don't be cutting up in the water that day. Yeah. And we'll we'll do a rhythm cutting probably right at 9:00 a.m. with the Okay.

Life jacket station.

Okay. Okay. Wonderful. Thank you, Tim. Okay. Does that cover any announcements? Looks like Okay. We'll go to public participation. So, who wanted to speak about something we haven't already spoken about? Miss Langston. See, you're the only one raising your hand. So, Teresa Lson, 6031 Land Street. I attended the TPO meeting and I just wanted to say that I appreciate Commissioner Griggs and Mayor Henderson and Mr. Cook for trying to stand up um for the shenanigans that took place that day. we're just going to go ahead and call it shenanigans because

um two years in a row for Lin Haven. You know, it is what it is. Um and it was clear that the update representatives from the different cities kind of cater to the shenanigans of Linhaven. And I can say that as a citizen because I have seen a lot of shenanigans come out of Lyn Haven, you know, and and other places. Um, and I just want to make a statement because I know I made a statement about the last minute agenda item for the money for repairing the pipes. Um, you know, you you made your explanation and you stated that, you know, you weren't trying to hide anything, but you have to understand where it looks like on our end when some commissioners know about it, some commissioners don't. I firmly believe that if one commissioner knows about it, I think all the commissioners need to go know about it if there's a problem coming down the pipeline when you're going to ask for thousands of dollars, you know, that's not budgeted. So, I just want to make that statement. You know, I know that some of them, you know, admitted to knowing um some of them acted as surprised, which I'm, you know, don't know if they knew or not. But um I think that all the commissioners need to know if there's a problem coming down. All of them should be treated equally um when there are issues and you know that's really not the case. Um um it just seems like there may be some shady things that happen whenever you know what I mean you you plan and you talk to a couple commissioners and you don't inform the other commissioners. I think that it should be transparent with all the commissioners if there's an issue.

Okay. Thank you.

Actually, I wanted to Karen Kuster, 216 Lani Road Drive. I wanted to bring something up because the fire chief is here. Um, I've been told that fire trucks and and emergency vehicles can reach a width of 104 in. And when when your approved Stillwater subdivision, the street in that subdivision is 22 feet wide. And our dinosaur was talking about letting people park in their lots. Uh, I mean, you know, on their lawns if they had company and stuff. Well, if you parked two compact cars, which are 72 in wide on opposite sides of a 22 foot wide street, they're allowed to park 12 in from the curb and they each have mirrors on the inside um part where the um a vehicle would travel through. Well, when you add up the 12 inches from the curb, the 72 inch cars, and the 12 inches for the mirror, your emergency vehicle would have to be 72 in wide or it couldn't fit down that street. So, are our emergency vehicles 72 inch wide? That was a question wider than that. So, we have a problem with allowing um street parking in 22 foot wide streets. So, I wanted y'all to think about that because you might want to address it in the future for future orders. Um if it was 380 in wide, you could park the widest street that's out there today, which would be the widest fulls size truck is 80 in. And there are some others that can be up to 102 in. That's the legal maximum width of a passenger

vehicle. Um, and so I hope y'all will really rethink the streets that the street widths in the subdivisions and not allowing on street parking if they're, you know, narrower than 32 feet. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? Am I missing anybody?