Historic Preservation Commission - Regular Meeting
The Historic Preservation Commission approved a recommendation to add the Horzmann Blockhouse to the city's historical register and discussed updates to the city's points of interest map. Commissioners also reviewed the successful Route 66 Centennial event and received an update on the challenging J.P. Connell House preservation efforts.
About this meeting
- Government Body
- Historic Preservation Commission
- Meeting Type
- Historic Preservation Commission
- Location
- Wildwood, MO
- Meeting Date
- August 13, 2026
Transcript
248 sections
In Ordnung. Herzlich Willkommen alle zusammen. Wir hoffen, dass ihr diese extrem heißen Temperaturen gut überstanden habt. Wir haben noch ein paar Tage dieser verrückten Hitze vor uns. An diesem Tag fuhren Kommissar Larsen und Kommissar Hinsk, Planer Kief und ich nach Minneapolis zur National Alliance of Preservation Commission, auch bekannt als Forum 2026. Diese Veranstaltung war lehrreich und wir trafen viele Vertreter des Denkmalschutzes aus dem ganzen Land. Wir erfuhren etwas über die Geschichte der Dakota Indianer in Minnesota und wie sie versuchen, einen Teil des Landes wiederherzustellen, auf dem ihre Vorfahren einst lebten. Wir besichtigten einige historische Städten, die einst zu den größten Blumenmühlen unseres Landes gehörten. Wir tauschten uns aus und lernten als Denkmalschutzexperten voneinander. Ich danke euch allen für die Gelegenheit und ich bin sicher, dass auch meine Kollegen die Erfahrung zu schätzen wissen. Another big thank you to everyone who helped with our great Route 66 event last month. This event took many months of planning. The weather was pretty brutal, but we were lucky that it didn't rain. The event stretched over several miles of Waywood's own Route 66. Volunteers helped with the music, the food, the water distribution, the organization of the Oldtimer Parade and much more. Einer unserer größten Unterstützer bei der Feier zum 100. Jubiläum der Route 66 war die Planerin Keef. Sie hat unermüdlich Tage und Stunden in die Planung gesteckt und wir alle schulden ihr ein riesengroßes Dankeschön. Robin ist nicht hier. Sie fühlt sich heute Abend nicht gut, aber wir möchten ihr ein Zeichen unserer Dankbarkeit überreichen. Wir werden dies in Ihrem Büro lassen, damit sie es wiederbekommen kann, wenn sie am 6. Mai zurückkommt. Es gibt auch eine passende Karte dazu. Wenn wir uns jetzt alle für den Treuheit erheben würden, bitte ich unseren neuen Jugendbeauftragten Kole Neidons zur Flaggen-Nation. Joe, would you please start the call for us?
Thank you, Mom. Officer Love is present. He's here via Zoom.
You're the best. You're online mute. Sorry, I'm present.
Ich mache weiter. Kommissar Bloh. Kommissar Aschtfeld.
Kommissar Burme. Stellvertreter Hempeler. Stellvertretender Vorsitzender.
Verbindungsperson des Ratsmitglieds Marbury.
Verbindungsperson des Ratsmitglieds Rob Rambo.
Berater Scott.
Anwesend.
Jugendmitglied Colin Knight. Jugendmitglied Ragerrahmen. Liz and Joe von Grumman von der Lawwood Historical Society.
Sekretär Kurt Hennig. Stellvertretender Vorsitzender Lars. Anwesend. Frau Vorsitzende, wir haben ein Quorum.
Genau.
Wir möchten die Genehmigung für das Protokoll der Sitzung vom letzten Monat einholen. Hat jemand Anmerkungen zum Protokoll oder sollen wir davon ausgehen, dass es akzeptiert und verabschiedet ist? Keine Anmerkungen. Dann genehmigen wir das Protokoll. Gibt es jemanden im Publikum, der möglicherweise öffentliche Kommentare abgeben möchte oder heute Abend online öffentliche Kommentare abgeben möchte? Joe, siehst du jemanden? Ich glaube, das war seine Art, dies für seinen Aufruf zu sagen. Okay. In Ordnung. Wir kommen nun zu unseren Neuigkeiten und Updates von der Whitewood Historical Society. Nun zum... Nächste Woche findet unsere Präsentation in allen Bars am Dienstag im August und September statt. Es wird ein Abend mit Vorführungen und Erzählungen. Bringt ein Artefakt mit oder euch selbst und erzählt eine Geschichte über eure Jugend, wenn ihr in der Gegend gewohnt habt oder jemanden kennt, der in der Gegend gewohnt hat. Am 15. September wird Greg Mariniak die Auswirkungen von Lindberghs Flug auf die Luftfahrt und die Nation untersuchen. Im Oktober, November und Dezember finden unsere Treffen am Sonntagnachmittag statt. Am Sonntag, dem 18. Oktober um 14, wird Molly Butterworth über die Zukunft sprechen, die nicht mehr das ist, was sie einmal war. Am Sonntag um 11.08 spricht Christopher Gordon von der Missouri Historical Society über Stimmen aus der Vergangenheit, Briefe aus der Heimat aus St. Louis während des Zweiten Weltkriegs. On Sunday, December 13, from 1 p.m. to 4 p.m. our day of the open door takes place to prepare us for the next topic, Route 66-Kreuzfahrt. We have a lot of time spent with it to make changes. It's as if you're preparing for a big party. You do things that took a long time. That's why we made a lot of changes to the organization of some of our areas. I was able to do a lot more work in the church area. Now he's actually telling a story and it's not just a bunch of stuff that's around. Außerdem haben wir große Fortschritte bei der Beschilderung unserer Artefakte gemacht. Es gibt jetzt kleine Schilder, Ausweisschilder neben den meisten Dingen. So können die Leute mehr oder weniger auf eigene Faust herumlaufen und sich ein Bild davon machen, was los ist, auch wenn niemand da ist, der eine richtig große Führung macht. Um unsere Newsletter von 2027 zu erhalten.
Oh, the other part is, if you haven't been to the museum lately, please make a reservation.
And I make sure that you have a tour or can just walk around. Because it's much different than maybe the last time when some of you were there. And in our newsletters for 2027 we will continue the small monthly section in which we What we have done for 25 and 26. That seems to be very popular. So we will continue that. In 2026, the disappeared buildings or buildings were also presented. This is not a yearly repetition. This was a kind of section that was only new this year. Wenn es in Zukunft einen bedeutenden Verlust gibt, werden wir das im Laufe des Jahres 2027 vorstellen. Aber wenn Sie das heute Abend nicht geschafft haben, denken Sie bitte nach. If you come up with something that is related to this, something that does not necessarily concern the legal structures, but something that we can imagine either monthly or quarterly, something that has to do with what we want to encourage as a think tank for people on the subject of monument protection. Wenn Sie also über die Dinge sprechen können, die in den Registern stehen, haben wir über die Verluststrukturen und ihre Bedeutung für deren Verlust gesprochen und warum wir sie verloren haben. Wenn Sie also der Meinung sind, dass etwas in Bezug auf den Denkmalschutz hilfreich sein könnte, ich weiß nicht, was die Ziele des Staates für das nächste Jahr sind, aber wenn es ein Thema gibt, das Sie verfolgen, werde ich versuchen, es aufzugreifen. Wenn es Ihnen passt, schreiben Sie mir einfach eine E-Mail. That would be really good. Our calendar for 2027 will be done for Celebrate Wildwood. The topic is that the Hankenhäuser will be 175 years old in 2027. And for 2027 we will hopefully have a coordinated, formal donation topic. Das haben wir seit einigen Jahren nicht mehr gemacht und das Thema wird 2027 175 sein. Ich denke, das ist der Abschluss. Es sei denn, Sie möchten, dass ich jetzt die Kommentare zu Cruise 66 durchgehe, oder Sie können das später tun. Sie lassen mich wissen, wo ich das tun soll.
Ja, wenn Sie fortfahren möchten, okay, machen wir weiter. Ähm, sicher.
Yes, it is banal, but they have listed several events.
They are all cool.
I wonder if there is a central place for people who can see what is next.
We usually post something in the week before. So I will make sure that this is done. So we have our Facebook.
What does a post do? What do you mean? On Facebook? So it has to be on Facebook. Yes, Facebook. Wir haben keine zentrale Anlaufstelle.
Oder du kannst den E-Newsletter abonnieren.
Das war meine nächste Frage.
Sie sagte, es gibt ein... Ich kümmere mich nicht darum, also vergesse ich es immer wieder.
Gesellschaft ist so freundlich, mir ihren Zeitplan zu schicken. Und wir arbeiten den Zeitplan durch. Wenn Veranstaltungen anstehen, heben wir sie hervor. Wir setzen sie unter, was ist neu in dieser Ausgabe. Und wenn die Veranstaltung stattgefunden hat, entfernen wir sie und schieben die nächste nach oben. Und das Ganze beginnt. Und das Ganze beginnt.
The Newsletter of the Broadway Historical Society?
No, that would be the e-Newsletter of the city... Oh, our...
I mean, I knew I had seen him, but...
I didn't know where I could have met him in advance, but... Yes.
Okay. I'm already at the joke.
Yes. I'm glad to hear that. This is just the beginning of another question. Is there a continuity in the sense that no month should pass, Nun, das sind wöchentliche Newsletter. Gibt es ein vorgegebenes Protokoll, das alle vier Jahre mindestens eine historische Gesellschaft einen dieser Newsletter herausgeben soll? Actually, the city is an institutional member. I'm not sure if I understand the category correctly. We get the newsletter sent by email when it is published and I go through it.
Wenn es etwas Ungewöhnliches gibt oder etwas, von dem ich denke, dass es für die Einwohner offensichtlich interessant sein könnte, füge ich es hinzu. Ich achte aber immer darauf, dass wir die Veranstaltung organisieren. Und vor einiger Zeit hatte Miss von Groove erwähnt, dass sie ein paar zusätzliche freiwillige Helfer gebrauchen könnten. Wir stellen also Leute ein. Danke.
Route 66, die Kreuzfahrt. Danke, Robin. I hope you sleep and don't watch us tonight. It was a huge success. We never had so many people on site. It was a lot of fun. I was with a few people in the museum and you joined me and I really appreciated it because it took away a lot of additional worries. Aber es war heiß draußen. Und die Leute, die sich abgemüht haben, haben nicht gekämpft, sondern durchgehalten und draußen gearbeitet. Aber es hat alles funktioniert. Alle hatten Spaß. Und die Sache ist die, die alle, die zuhören oder zuschauen, nicht wissen. Die Leute konnten aus der Straßenbahn aussteigen oder drinbleiben, um zur nächsten Haltestelle zu gelangen. Sie mussten nicht aussteigen. Und fast jeder ist immer ausgestiegen, wenn die Straßenbahn durchkam. And that was really a great feeling for us, that it is worth all the work to keep everything going. There was singer ice cream, there was a great bad pun, a great delicious bite. We also had an art teacher who was tinkering with the little children in the assembly hall. And then there was singer ice. That lured people into the assembly hall. And that was really phenomenal. And then the art teacher, the same art teacher, was so impressed that she brought her older students with her next week to do projects in the open. Ich habe gesehen, dass mindestens ein paar von Ihnen draußen in der Lobby waren. Das macht wirklich viel Spaß. Das ist etwas ganz Neues für uns. Hier sind die Kommentare, die wir bekommen haben. Wir wussten nicht, dass Sie hier sind. Wir wussten, dass die Gesellschaft hier ist, aber wir hatten keine Ahnung, dass Sie ein Museum haben. Wow, das ist ein richtiges Museum. Wow. And wow, or whatever the explanation is. It's a good museum. It tells the stories well. The people were really impressed that every bay has its own unique story, but if you take them all together, it really tells the whole story of Wildwood. And then several visitors praised us for the professional archiving of the artifacts. They appreciated it very much and they Leute haben dadurch einen großen Eindruck von unserer Professionalität bekommen. Das ist eines unserer Ziele, nicht nur ein Flohmarktmuseum zu sein, sondern den Standard aller Topmuseen zu erfüllen, obwohl wir klein sind. Wir hatten so viele Besucher, dass ich am nächsten Tag meine Stimme verloren habe. Ich habe den ganzen Tag geschlafen. Aber es war alles wert. Wir haben mehrere Kontakte wieder geknüpft und neue Leute haben sich angemeldet. Nicht so viele, wie wir uns vorgestellt hatten, aber so viele Leute haben endlich bemerkt, dass wir hier sind. Wir versuchen also, Wege zu finden, um daraus Kapital zu schlagen. Vielen Dank, dass Sie uns eingeladen haben. Und wir wissen, die Arbeit, die in das gesamte Spektakel geflossen ist, unser Teil ist wirklich gut gelaufen. Vielen Dank.
My observation was that a group of young German tourists visited the museum.
They enjoyed it very much to learn something about the German heritage in the area. And they were just thrilled by the museum. When Mr. Sandman, the next day, spoke about the high proportion of international tourists on Route 66, I connected the two aspects. So we actually had international tourists who came to the Wildwood Celebration. I thought that was pretty cool.
You mentioned that people didn't know that there was a museum. Bei jeder dieser Veranstaltungen, die wir haben, erzähle ich den Leuten vom Society Museum, dass sie unbedingt hingehen und es sich ansehen müssen, ah, dass es ein echtes Museum ist, nicht nur ein Haufen alter Sachen. Nehler Sachen.
Ich verstehe, dass das neue Leute sind, die noch nie davon gehört haben.
Es ist schwer, die Botschaft zu vermitteln. And it's hard to make people understand that we are real and not just a collection of old things that were put together in a room. And it's a tough message. But I think this event should hopefully push us to something else. We write it big with the letter T. Wissen Sie, das Haus ist entweder das zweit- oder drittälteste Wohngebäude, das in Wildwood noch erhalten ist. Da ist das Tyler House. Da ist Overbrook. Das Tyler House ist irgendwo zwischen 1830 und 1840 gebaut worden. Overbrook comes from the 1830s, I was quite sure, because that's David's family's hut. Otto von Grubin built this hut. And it's a block hut. And then there's ours, and maybe there's another one that's in the same small group of houses. And it's a great responsibility to try to keep them alive so that nothing happens. Das sind unsere, die anderen Gebäude gehören unserem Geschichtsverein, aber sie sind nicht, wie David sagt, historisch. Das Gebäude, das Haus, ist historisch. Und man kann es nicht einfach ansehen und erkennen, was es war. Aber wenn man hineingeht, kann man Teile sehen. Wir haben derzeit einen wunderbaren Mieter, einen Wohnungsmieter, und er hat seinen Mietvertrag um neun auf zwölf Monate verlängert, während er sein neues Haus baut. Danach wollten wir keinen anderen Mieter mehr. Es ist sehr schwierig, es zu vermieten. Und der Preis, den wir verlangen, ist fair für alles, was Sie bekommen. Aber es ist ein altes Gebäude, und es hat seine Probleme, und man braucht einen ganz besonderen Mieter. Außerdem ist es schwierig, einen Mieter zu finden, der nicht zerstört oder dessen Schecks nicht eingelöst werden. Das war in der Vergangenheit ein großes Problem. Das gab es hier nicht. Daher haben wir seinen Mietvertrag sehr gerne verlängert, als er darum bat. Aber danach werden wir das Haus in zusätzliche Museumsräume umwandeln. Everything that has to do with the chicken that we currently have in our museum building will be moved into the house. We have a lot of furniture and similar things that we have stored and that are now coming into the house. So we can tell the story of the original section, which is recognizable when entering. We will decorate it in a certain way and we will decorate the part from the 1880s more in the style of this epoch. We also have a lot of pieces of clothing, like windowpops and similar things. It will take a while before we can start with that, but that will probably happen in 2020. That sounds great. Thank you, Jill. Okay, the next point on the agenda is old shops. It starts with the recommendation of the Commission for Memorial Care. An den Stadtrat von Wildwood. Joe, möchtest du das zur Kenntnis nehmen?
Immer. Danke, Frau Vorsitzende.
Frau Vorsitzende und Mitglieder der Kommission. Before I start, I don't want to bother any of you. But if you don't speak into the microphone, this is not necessarily a problem here in the council hall. However, those who listen via Zoom cannot hear anything. So just as a reminder, make sure that the red lights on your microphone are lit at the bottom so that everyone can hear what you say. Of course we want that.
Second, Ms. Chairman, I would like to ask Mr. Neid, our youth officer,
Thank you very much. Many of you have visited the entire event and are even on the next Sunday to the unveiling of the historical guidepost for Route 66 and to Mr. Sandermann's lecture in the Living World Church. Ihr habt wirklich großartige Arbeit geleistet. Ich weiß, Robin könnte eure Aufgaben wahrscheinlich besser erklären, aber wie gesagt, ich wollte mich einfach nur bei euch bedanken, micken. Ihr seid eine Gruppe, die, wie schon in der Vergangenheit, die Ärmel hochkrempelt, aufsteht und hilft. Und ihr seid Gold wert für das Amt für Planung und Parks. Also vielen Dank. And I would also like to thank Robin. It was a stressful time, especially as we were just approaching our destination. In addition, there are all the other things that happen, like the people who call because the dogs of their neighbors call late at night, and we have to clarify that before we can go back to the celebration and the preparations for the 100th anniversary. Much of it was to thank the few people, and Robin is one of them, and I would also like to thank her. Ms. Chairman, thank you for paying attention to my few introductory remarks. I now come to the point. The first point on today's agenda is the design of a recommendation letter that was prepared for registration for all consultations on the application submitted by Mr. Shockley. Some of the committee members will remember that we visited the property on Fox Creek Road near Interstate 44. Apart from the block hut inside the residential building and the other side buildings that form the century farm, it is simply a beautiful piece of land. The surroundings remind me of a long time ago. The hut itself is not only something very special, but also the fact that Mr. Schockli intends to preserve it as a large piece of land in view of today's economy is praiseworthy. Die öffentliche Anhörung zu diesem Thema fand Ende Mai, am 28. Mai, statt.
Damals stellte Herr Schockli seinen Vorschlag vor.
Am Ende der öffentlichen Anhörung genehmigte die Kommission für Denkmalpflege die Erstellung des Empfehlungsberichts der Abteilung. This recommendation report was submitted to you at the end of June and the recommendation to record the Horzmann Blockhouse in the historical register of the city was approved. Tonight, the last step in this process takes place. If the draft of the recommendation letter is approved by the Commission members this evening, this matter will be passed on to the City Council as part of the entry regulation. The entry regulation will be introduced on the same evening as the public hearing. So I assume that this object and the other that we acquired on Allentown Road, namely the Dock Trot blockhouse, will be included in the historic register of the city in October of this year. With that, we have added two new objects to the, in my opinion, growing list of assets in the city of Wildwood. This evening, Ms. Chairman and members of the Commission, the department politely requests an application and a second vote to approve the draft recommendation and pass it on to the City Council. If there are any questions, I am happy to answer them at this time. Thank you very much.
All right. So are there any questions about the draft as it is presented to us? All right.
I have another question, Joe.
Have there been significant changes to the writing since our last inspection?
No, Mr. Larsson, that's a good question. This process reflects the process that we have with the Planning and Zoning Commission. If you were part of the planning and zoning commission, you may not know how we handle things. So just briefly, as soon as you are on the basis of the information report that was written by the department and the recommendation to vote for you, it is now in your ownership. This is a two-stage process. Und wenn Sie uns nicht anweisen, etwas zu ändern, oder wenn wir Rechtschreib, Grammatik oder Leerzeichenfehler finden, sind das die Fehler, die uns überraschen, wenn wir versuchen, alles so aussehen zu lassen, als hätten wir aufgepasst. Nein, wir werden nichts ändern. Um Ihre Frage zu beantworten, es gilt die Abstimmung, für die Sie gestimmt haben. Danke.
Wir beantragen die Annahme des Briefes, da er uns nicht vorliegt. Haben wir einen Antrag?
Ich stelle den Antrag, dass wir den Brief in der vorliegenden Form unterstützen und genehmigen und ihn an den Stadtrat weiterleiten.
Herr Larsen hat den ersten Antrag gestellt. Gibt es einen zweiten? Ich unterstütze den Antrag. Und Morell hat den Antrag unterstützt. Gibt es Enthaltungen? Der Antrag ist angenommen. Sie möchten?
Sie könnten einfach eine Abstimmung per Stimmzettel durchführen. Das wäre großartig.
Sie möchten eine vollständige Abstimmung?
Nur eine Abstimmung per Stimmzettel. Alle, die dafür sind, sagen in Ordnung.
Möchten Sie die Namen der Abgeordneten nennen?
Ich kann sie benennen. Kommissar Schfeld? Danke. Kommissar Boom? Danke. Kommissar Scheer. Ratsmitglied Leon Mabrick. Ratsmitglied Leon Dr. Rambo. Sekretär Hennig. Stellvertretender Vorsitzender Laas.
Vorsitzender Quarterneck.
Representative Chairman, have I already understood you?
You have understood me, I am not sure.
And finally, Youth Officer Knight.
Thank you, Mrs. Chairman.
The vote is unanimous, Mrs. We still have, Commissioner.
Thank you, I appreciate the listener. And Commissioner Levis.
I think he can raise his hand. I think his microphone is not there. I apologize for his voice. Thank you, John.
No, go on.
Ms. Chairman and members of the Commission, the next point on the agenda concerns the efforts to revive the historic Route 66. And as you know, Ms. Bonn-Grumen has wonderfully summarized the successful opportunity that you had in connection with the event on Saturday. And we're happy that it worked out for the society. Miss Kiefe would probably be the best choice to present this evening. Of course, as head of department, I took part in all three days of the event. But as I said, I was stationed at different times at different places and didn't make it to some of the key points, especially not to Stouffville's Grove, which was one of my goals. Wir haben am Freitagabend mit unserem Konzert in Maine angefangen. Ich denke, die Rockwood Boys haben angesichts der Hitze wieder einmal einen lobenswerten Job gemacht. Ich denke, wir haben bei diesem Konzert eine Lektion gelernt. Wenn man zwei 10x10 Zelte hat und Banner darum herum aufhängt, entsteht ein geschlossener Raum ohne Luftzirkulation und so wird es an einem heißen Tag noch heißer. We'll have to find out next time. But I think the event on Friday evening was a complete success. And it seemed as if many participants had come to the crusade and had already praised the event before their participation. And I know that there were a lot of people at your home when we distributed water.
And I kept an eye on the people.
I think it is important to emphasize that there are always opportunities for monument protection or concerts. I will talk about the back-to-school party when we come to this topic, but I thought the music was good. The crossroad was a challenge for itself. When everyone was here very early, they loaded things from the building into the appropriate vehicles and drove to the locations. Many tents had to be built and sandbags had to be laid on the tents, and then the cruise started. I think the cruise could not have gone better, at least as far as the number of participants is concerned. There was a weak point with the cruise, namely the gentleman who welcomed the participants of the cruise and allegedly collected money, but I just said, I would like to happen. So we had over 100 participants, a wide range of vehicles, and it was just fun to talk to them. I hope they had the opportunity to do the same when they were at their respective locations. After that, the six junction points were opened. I think the tram ran as well as it could. I think one of the gentlemen who drove the tram had a bit of a bruise, but otherwise everything seemed to be going very well. And I repeat, with the permission of the chairman, you will be given the opportunity to describe your impressions as part of this agenda. But as I said, I think in light of the heat and the humidity, everything went as well as it could. And for me, the best part of the event was the next day, the unveiling of the community sign for Route 66. Mr. Scott, thank you for bringing the audience with you. Mr. Scott had his sons and others with him. And I think the sign has become great. The design components developed by Melanie and Robin from the department and checked and criticized by the commission members, in my opinion, have led to something that I would like to say is perhaps even better than the eleven with which we started. So good work. Herr Sandermann hat meine großartige Arbeit geleistet. Ich war überrascht, als Robin erwähnte, dass dies seine letzte offizielle Präsentation sein würde. Und natürlich gibt es ein paar gesundheitliche Probleme, aber er ist einfach eine großartige Ressource, wenn es um Unterhaltung geht. Die Larsons waren da. Ich bin sicher, sie werden einige Gedanken dazu haben. Aber alles in allem lief es gut. Frau Vorsitzende, es hat geregnet, aber glücklicherweise waren wir alle anwesend und es hätte schütten können, so viel es wollte. Not to forget, Mr. Mayberry, if you need a driver, we have appointed one. He has led the jurors to the various junctions to assess the vehicles of the cruise participants. And I heard that it went very well for that. Ms. Chairman, if people would like to add something to their experience. We would of course be happy to hear that now. Es gibt einen Abschnitt im Bericht über die nächsten Schritte und es gibt ein paar Dinge, die im September und Oktober anstehen. Ich werde darauf zurückkommen, wenn wir Ihre Eindrücke gehört haben.
Frau Vorsitzende, ich möchte noch eine Anmerkung machen. Freitagabend glaube ich, dass wir wahrscheinlich dreimal hätten verkaufen können. But we had to put it aside and reserve it for the crew, the drivers. I think one of the funniest things was with Mr. Scott. The children were really happy to build the blockhouses together. They enjoyed that. I suggest we order a few children's T-shirts. First of all, the children wanted T-shirts. But secondly, they are cheaper if you buy them in children's sizes, not in adult sizes. So that's my suggestion.
And if you're wondering, our stock has stopped again. Robin was so friendly to report to some cross-country riders who either didn't get a shirt or didn't get the right size. So we're filling in a little bit, but thanks for the suggestion. We're slowly not buying unisex sizes anymore, which means that we're not just buying men's sizes. We're actually trying to buy women's sizes now.
And then I would like to add that the trolley was a great addition. There were times when people seemed impatient to wait, but I think they were just very busy. And when it's hot and you're waiting in the sun, the waiting time takes a little longer. But I think that was a great way to bring people to the different goals. Ich hoffe, dass die Händler, die an den verschiedenen Standorten waren, mit der Besucherzahl an ihren Standorten zufrieden waren. Ich meine, an einigen Standorten gab es meiner Meinung nach etwas weniger Besucher. Es hört sich so an, als ob Gilles Laden eine Menge Leute zu den STO-Bällen hatte, aber an anderen Orten gab es vielleicht nicht so viele Fußgänger. Ich bin mir also nicht sicher, wie die Händler ihr Feedback zu allem empfanden, aber ich denke, insgesamt war es eine tolle Leistung. Es ist gut geworden. Sonst noch jemand?
One question. Is there a estimate of how many people came?
I didn't ask the police, but unfortunately they actually had a problem at the Rockwoods Reservoir and they withdrew from the event in the afternoon, so I don't know. So for a while we were without police service, but it was certainly an emergency that had to be addressed.
Were there any key points that maybe didn't have the number of people we might have expected? Wissen Sie, wäre es etwas, worüber Sie in diesem Bericht bei einer zukünftigen Veranstaltung sprechen, das vielleicht ähnlich sein könnte, dass wir vielleicht einfach sagen sollten, das ist zu viel oder so etwas wie es gibt zu viele Knotenpunkte oder so etwas in der Art oder so etwas in der Art.
The feedback that I heard was that the Good News Brewing Company, Bethel, the Wildwood Church, and the Old Pond School were the three focal points. Or events that didn't have as many people as Grover, the Wildwood Middle School, the Big Chief Roadhouse, and the Stowballs Museum. Mr. Knight and I, it was pretty regular. Hey, you were there, Ms. Quadernick, too. I mean, people came and went, but I never had the feeling that it was full when I looked at the foregarden of the Old Pond School. A few cars had already started early. One was an older man. And in retrospect, the Good News Brewing Company and the Bethel Walwood Church were certainly welcome participants. Since you are outside the city, we could give you instructions. But if I did it again, I would probably not include the Old Pond School. It's just that parking is a problem. Every time Mr. Knight and I see someone crossing the street from the Quest Church, I think to myself, slower, slower. I wouldn't do it again for security reasons.
Aber ich meine, was ich denke und höre, ist, dass sie es insgesamt für ziemlich erfolgreich hielten.
Sehr.
Ausgezeichnet. Das ist großartig. Danke.
Da gibt es noch jemand? Ja.
Mich würde interessieren, ob die Straßenbahnen auch die eingestiegenen Fahrgäste zählen.
Das ist eine sehr gute Frage, der wir nachgehen werden.
Das könnte ein guter Hinweis sein. Ich weiß, dass die Leute aus den Straßenbahn ausgestiegen sind und die Straßenbahn müssen sich sehr gefreut haben, denn sie waren voll und haben auch viel Wasser verschenkt.
Der Herr, dem die Straßenbahn gehört, wohnt in Wildwood. Wir rufen ihn an und hoffen, dass wir beim nächsten Treffen eine Antwort auf Ihre Frage haben. Ich habe irgendwo in den Unterlagen gelesen, dass in der Straßenbahn eine Partystimmung herrschte. Und das war auf jeden Fall so, als ich wahrscheinlich zum Museum und dann wieder zurückgefahren bin. Und was Bethlehem betrifft, wenn es nicht so heiß gewesen wäre, wären da meiner Meinung nach mehr Familienmitglieder gewesen. Denn das war der Treffpunkt für Kinder. Ihre Hauptattraktion war das Ponyreiten. Ponyreiten war nicht erlaubt. Aber es gab Traktorfahrten. Das habe ich gehört.
Ich glaube, das ist auch ein Kommentar, den ich gehört habe. Wenn Sie das noch einmal machen wollen, denken Sie an Frühling oder Herbst.
Als wir über die Besucherzahlen sprachen, kam David erst ganz zum Schluss ins Museum, weil er sagte, das habe ich alles schon einmal gehört. Aber er schwankte zwischen draußen und im Versammlungssaal. Und er sagte, die Leute hätten die Wahl, aus der Straßenbahn auszusteigen oder bis zur nächsten Haltestelle zu warten. Die meisten Leute, sagte er, stiegen bei jeder Straßenbahn aus, die er sah, und kamen dann zum Museum. Es gab mehrere Male, wo sich draußen eine Schlange bildete, weil das Museum zu voll war, um überhaupt Leute durch die Tür zu lassen. Das ist, wie ich bereits sagte, noch nie passiert. Aber das ist meine Bestätigung, weil ich drin war und David war draußen. Er sagte, die Leute standen fast bis auf den Bürgersteig an, fast bis zum Versammlungssaal. Und wir hatten den Vorteil, dass der Versammlungssaal klimatisiert ist und über Toiletten verfügt. Das war einer unserer großen Anziehungspunkte.
Ich denke, wir sollten das jeden Monat machen.
Kein Problem.
Ich füge noch hinzu, dass wir morgens in der Teichschule waren. Für den Nachmittag kann ich es also nicht sagen. Aber es war definitiv nicht überfüllt und voll, sondern meiner Meinung nach ziemlich ruhig. Wir hatten auch Toiletten und eine Klimaanlage. Ich dachte also, es wären mehr Leute da. Aber wie du schon sagtest, der Ein- und Ausgang ist wirklich schrecklich. From the outside, it seemed, apart from our minimal structure in the school, everything was very well organized and running without any problems. So you would have known and seen what might not have happened. But it really looked like everything was well organized. There were a lot of moving parts and it was just a complete success.
We didn't have t-shirts in children's sizes anymore. For the construction of the hut.
You can't predict everything, but there was great interest in it.
Wir waren etwas abseits, aber die Leute haben ihren Weg gefunden. Richtig, richtig.
Man lernt also aus seinen Veranstaltungen oder man lernt über die Jahre hinweg aus diesen Dingen, wenn man diese Veranstaltung Jahr für Jahr plant. Leider oder vielleicht auch glücklicherweise kommen in 100 Jahren wieder 100 Jahre auf uns zu. Es ist also nicht so, dass wir viele Gelegenheiten haben, während das Gelernte auf die nächste Veranstaltung anzuwenden. Es sei denn, einer der Leute von der Straßenbahn erzählt mir, dass es in Illinois eine Stadt gibt, die jedes Jahr eine Route 66-Feier veranstaltet.
Jedes Jahr.
Jedes Jahr.
Und Joe grinst nur. Er sagt, gut, dass Sie das tun. Gut, dass Sie das tun.
In meinem Alter könnte ich grinsen. Wenn ich 40 wäre, würde ich die Stirn runzeln.
Maybe it would be good for us if it happened every 100 years.
Anything else? I just wanted to say that Route 66 is also a historic area and that's what it's all about. In another context, we could apply it to the visit of our historic Wildwood area 100 years ago, i.e. to the main area. I haven't really thought about it yet. It just came to my mind. But I think, and that's why I asked the question after the number of people, because I think it was a really cool idea. And I welcome Wildwood for implementing it so far. I think it was really a great community effort. Jill has another comment.
Während wir darüber diskutieren und uns austauschen, erinnern sich die meisten von ihnen nicht mehr daran, weil das schon lange her ist. Die historische Gesellschaft hat früher jährliche Busrundfahrten durchgeführt. Es gab zwei kurze Busse. Die Leute haben dafür bezahlt, mit dem Bus zu fahren. Und er hat einen Quadranten oder eine ausgewählte Gruppe von Häusern angefahren. Das war zu einer anderen Zeit, als die Leute es sehr willkommen hießen, eine ganze Menge Fremder durch ihr Haus zu laufen. Ich glaube nicht, dass das heutzutage gut funktionieren würde. Aus vielen Gründen. Die Versicherung an sich wäre egal. Aber wenn man etwas mit den Trollis macht, dann machen wir das nach Quadranten. So you could do tours of quadrants through the historical areas. I have a lot of scripts. And such things really attracted people ten, fifteen years ago. I don't know how that would work today, but it's something you could think about. You could connect that with a kind of festive event. Man könnte nicht einfach nur eine Trolleytour machen. Man bräuchte ein paar Knotenpunkte, um jüngere Leute anzulocken. Musik, Essen, Getränke, weißt du, so etwas in der Art. Und in einem kühleren Monat wäre das wahrscheinlich besser. Unsere waren immer im Oktober oder November.
Eine gute Jahreszeit hier draußen.
Okay, let's get to the next point on the agenda, the sights. Mrs. Chairman, just a few things.
A few advance appointments that could be of interest to the commission members. The first appointment is next week, Tuesday, August 18th at 2 p.m. Singer Ice Cream provides ice cream and we will carry out a review of the rounds that we stopped in April and May with the participants. daher lade ich Sie alle herzlich ein, im Rathaus vorbeizukommen. Wir sind unten im Gemeinschaftsraum. Diesmal wird es kein Mittagessen geben, aber Singer's Ice Cream war wieder so freundlich, Eis anzubieten, und wir werden Wasser, Limonade und verschiedene Getränke anbieten. Es ist nur für eine Stunde geplant, aber wir hoffen, dass jeder von Ihnen, der teilnehmen kann, die Gelegenheit nutzt. Es wird eine großartige Gelegenheit sein, von der Geschäftswelt zu hören und zu erfahren, was sie davon hält. Die andere bevorstehende Veranstaltung ist natürlich, und ich werde etwas ausführlicher darauf eingehen, aber bevor wir die Route 66 verlassen, ist die Back-to-School-Party, die am 21. und Freitag den 21. stattfindet. So please include these in the calendar. You are all very welcome. And then, as you know, there are still some events in September and October. And one of the measures to run out on Miss Schwell's commentary is to see if we can see the momentum that we discussed in the past. and the Commission may be able to participate by organizing a kind of ghost tour along Route 66 with the business world in order to attract people on a Friday or Saturday evening. With special offers in the shops and maybe a few stops. damit wir mit T-Shirts und Informationen über die Route 66, die anderen historischen Sehenswürdigkeiten der Stadt USW vor Ort sein können. Wir haben also einen ehrgeizigen Zeitplan, auch wenn wir uns dem Herbst nähern. Vielen Dank, Mama.
Vielen Dank, Joe. Zum nächsten Thema.
Interessante Punkte, Matt. Ich wünschte, Robin wäre hier, damit sie es sagen könnte, aber wir sind stolz darauf und denken voraus. Es besteht also eine kleine Chance, dass wir die aktualisierte Karte bereitstellen können. Und Robin hat sehr gute Arbeit geleistet, indem sie einige der Änderungen identifiziert hat, die die Abteilung empfiehlt, damit wir bis zum 19. September eine aktualisierte Karte bereitstellen können. The designer of the card, Ms. Minkoff, will be here again next week. If she is of the opinion that she can make the changes, we have contacted the publisher and he believes that he can do it by the 19th. This statement contains many ifs, but as you can see from Ms. Kiefe's work, there are some things that we have identified and that we would like to add. Wissen Sie Dinge wie, und es ist entmutigend, wir haben zwei Restaurants, die auf der Kartendarstellung abgebildet sind. Sie sind in Wildwood nicht mehr in Betrieb. Das muss also natürlich behoben werden. Solche Dinge, Aktualisierungen von Kontaktinformationen USW. This evening, the Ministry is kindly asking the Commission to check the points mentioned in the memorandum regarding updates to the map with interesting points. If this is acceptable, the Ministry would kindly ask for a second vote and a vote-off. To proceed with this and to do our best to present the updated map at the Celebrate Wildwood event in sufficient numbers, Ms. Chairman, if I may, I have a question.
Gerne.
Ich habe bemerkt, dass vorgeschlagen wurde, die Telefonnummer der Historischen Gesellschaft zu entfernen. Gibt es dafür einen Grund? Nun, das ist ein triftiger Grund. Ja, die Historische Gesellschaft hat keine eigene Kreditkarte. Nowadays, everything you do with a credit card must be followed. So the phone was switched off on Linda Camp's name and her credit card, and it is obvious that she has died. And we haven't found a solution yet how we can continue to push this forward. So it's just about how we find out logistically within our organization how we can get further funds and who takes care of the payment process for you via your own personal credit card. Das ist nur eine administrative Angelegenheit von unserer Seite und nichts, was ein Problem darstellen würde. Aber die Leute rufen an und dann geht's los. Sie rufen bei der Stadt an und schicken mir dann eine E-Mail. Und das vereinfacht die Dinge. Gibt es anstelle einer Telefonnummer vielleicht eine E-Mail-Adresse oder eine andere Adresse?
Bei der Wildwood Historical Society?
Okay, das können wir auf jeden Fall hinzufügen. Das wäre toll. Good suggestion and thank you. Again, if you see something that you do not agree with or something that we overlooked.
Joe, I have a comment under the general edits. It is mentioned that historical photos should be replaced by current photos, which is probably a good idea to make them more recognizable. But I would like the idea to take a smaller version of the historical photo and put it in the corner of today's as a before and after. People like this before and after, but you should highlight the current photo.
I will definitely say Robin and if Robin talks to Ms. Binghoff, we will do it. If we have the space and can choose the size of the photo so that it is actually visible or readable. I think that's a good idea. I think Robin found out in our conversation that people just don't recognize it and therefore don't ask where it is. However, if we use a more up-to-date photo, they can find it. Yes, good suggestion. Thank you.
He replied to me by email, that's great, but that's not the building with the veranda. I said, yes, it's the veranda. I told him the story and I don't know if he did anything with it or not. There is still a veranda, but it is obviously not the historical version. But he said, but I don't recognize you again. And I said, I know you, this is a 100-year-old building. Things are changing. It was first used as a smithy, then as a grocery store, then as a mixed goods store. And that was always everything except for the smithy, it was also always a post office and then the various fountains and companies and a few other things were taken from it and then it seems that the port has found its home there.
Well, once again, Ms. Chairman, if there are no further additions, streaks or clarifications, then apply for a second vote, proceed with the recommended changes and carry out a vote per vote. The department will be very happy. So thank you very much.
Heming.
Microphone. Microphone.
I owe you a dollar. I have to pay the council every time in dollars if I don't switch on the microphone.
wie eine Fluchkasse.
Falls etwas vergessen oder gelöscht wurde, frage ich mich, wann es mir aufgefallen ist, wie sieht es mit dem historischen Aspekt und dem Wert des Gartens hinter dem Rathaus aus. Ich stelle seinen Wert als städtisches Gut nicht in Frage, aber gab Until in the past. Somewhere in Hollow, a garden for the celebration of the reminiscence?
Well, if you'll excuse me, we had, before this version of the map, with interesting places, very long maps with interesting places created. And when we finally decided, because we knew that we could not send anyone to private property to visit all historical values, we marked some interesting places, uh, designed. Also haben wir Schulen und Hochschulen und ähnliche Orte gekennzeichnet. Nein. Und der Gemeinschaftsgarten ist genau das. Ist ein Merkmal der Gemeinde. Wir haben 140 Gärtner. Und ich denke, wenn man manchmal dorthin zurückkehrt, ist es einfach sehr, sehr schön. Deshalb haben wir ihn hinzugefügt.
Das ist so. Dann müssen Sie sich vor niemandem rechtfertigen, was das mit Denkmalschutz zu tun hat. Denn es umfasst mehr als das. Einfache Antwort. Danke.
Well, the origin is that we actually started with a map with interesting folders and then ultimately integrated the historical component after we had published some of them. So that made it better. I have a question.
If you research the history of Waldwurz on the Internet, one of the first things that are mentioned is the confirmed finding of human remains from the time around 8000 to 9000 BC. Das wird unter für mich. Interessante Orte nicht erwähnt. Das ist faszinierend, aber ich verstehe nicht, warum das nicht häufiger erwähnt wird. Und noch eine Frage. Sind die Grabhügel am Wild Horse Creek Chesterfield? Wissen Sie, was ich meine?
So habe ich es verstanden. Ich würde mich da an einen Experten wenden.
Okay.
I think they're right on the border between Chesterfield and Wildwood. Too bad it's not Wildwood. Or maybe it's a luck that the federal government took over the property.
Exactly. From my mom. That's in Wildwood. That's in Chesterfield. The one down there. I don't know exactly.
I still believe that this is all in Chesterfield, based on the time when Joe Harle was outside and carried out the archaeological study of the valley, including Monarch Sand Tower and the historical communities. But we can of course check that in the context of a history book. The author. In my opinion, we have done very good work when we tried to travel back as far as possible in time. Joe Hall and his employees from the St. Louis Archaeological Society have done a good job by adding them and representing them absolutely correctly. But we can certainly add more. Because at some point we are talking about a second edition of the Whitewood history book.
I don't know what the sights are. I don't really know if it's about one point of interest and I leave it to your measurements to say that it's about remains of an 8,000-year-old person. I'm sure this could be the case, because they could just lie on the side of the road. So why should one make it a point of interest, except to mention it directly?
We can certainly do that discreetly. Of course, there are always concerns when people visit a grave.
Just a short question. Is the grave hill something against Chesterfield or is it just general, historical background knowledge?
I think it is generally known that they once had a commission. Now it is more of a non-city institution that was reformed.
I don't think there is any at all, Hanni.
That's true.
The grave hill is now on the site of the When you return to this settlement, there is actually a fence that you cannot cross. And there are cameras there. There is a memorial plaque that tells the story. But that's basically a new subdivision. At the very back of the subdivision you have a workshop. I didn't even know he was there until an Amaran employee made me aware of it. And I don't think they necessarily want everyone to support them.
It's sacred ground.
Danke.
Wenn niemand weitere Ergänzungen zu dieser Karte hat, werden wir eine mündliche Abstimmung über die Annahme durchführen. Um einen Antrag zu stellen?
Ich stelle einen Antrag, um die Empfehlungen für die Änderungen an der Karte anzunehmen.
Danke. Interesse.
That's it. The application has been submitted by Merhill.
And we're done.
Does it belong as a second one? The tone is off. We'll start with Colin now.
Um, I, I.
Approve.
Approve.
I, I.
We will continue with the card as we have presented it. The application has been accepted. Thank you.
Thank you very much. The next point, Ms. Chairman and members of the Commission, concerns the update of our building stock. This includes all buildings and constructions that were built between 1951 and 1953. In the memorandum created, we went through the individual steps of the development of the stock. As you can see, we started in 2014. In the meantime, twelve years have passed. By now, the total number of real estate is almost 400. In the two-year period that we will discuss tonight, we will even exceed 400. Frau Käfer hat die Recherche nach Beratern durchgeführt, die uns bei diesem speziellen Projekt unterstützen könnten. In der Vergangenheit haben wir uns hauptsächlich auf den Herrn verlassen, der jetzt an der West Virginia UN oder der University of West Virginia lehrt, Michael Allen. Er steht jedoch nicht mehr zur Verfügung. Seine Firma ist nicht mehr tätig. However, we were able to find four other potential consultants. Ms. Keith talked to everyone, but currently no one is available. We told him that there are only very few who do this kind of work and that they are so in demand that they currently do not accept any additional orders or projects. From this point of view, we are somewhat restricted. We told him that you should let us know in case something changes and that we will start immediately. So we will probably report to you in September with an update.
Next on the agenda is our work program.
Thank you very much again, Mrs. Chairman, Mrs. Chairman and members of the commission.
I would like to welcome our two city council members.
On Monday evening, the plan for memorial care in the city council meeting was finally approved and is now cheap and ratified. The planning and zoning commission that accepted it was in favor of it. So congratulations. As you know, we started in autumn 2024 and we are almost there in 2026. So that was a good effort from all sides and I think we really have a very good plan that will guide us for the next ten years and more.
I think there was almost unanimity, wasn't there, Joe?
There was unanimity, sir, as well as in the planning and zoning committee. A few things. Unfortunately, one of our grant applications, which we had not authorized by the federal government in relation to our efforts to protect Afro-American indigenous people, the reason why the grant was not funded or the grant was approved and the project was still funded was that there were no reports in the area and that is an important factor. Miss Kiefe and the gentleman from the State Office for Memorial Care had worked out all the details. Therefore, he himself was surprised by this result. Ah, so a few bad news, but I can assure you that Miss Kiefe is looking for other options to move forward, regardless of whether we continue the project and the roof of the grant. Ms. Kiefer and I are firmly convinced that there are things that we can still do within the components of the established framework. Therefore, we are now checking this. Yes, we will let you get further information. This means that we will ask the city council in the coming September as a department to help us move forward in this direction in the context of the preceding household procedure. These are not investments. This is included in the budget of the department's operating budget. And certainly we have put back funds for consulting and contract services every year. So we hope that if the development in the city of Wildwood should slow down a bit, we can use part of the money that we use for our various consultants in relation to new houses and buildings for this special project. Also leider haben wir den Zuschlag nicht bekommen, aber das lag sicherlich nicht daran, dass Miss Keeb und die anderen sich nicht bemüht hätten. Wenn Sie heute Abend reingekommen sind, haben Sie es bemerkt. Auf dem Tisch hinten im Ratssaal steht eine Plakette, auf der die Wildwood Historic Preservation Commission als lobende Erwähnung für die Kommission des Jahres ausgezeichnet wurde. Vielleicht lasse ich einen der Anwesenden ein wenig darüber sprechen.
Das war eine sehr schöne Auszeichnung und ich war ein wenig überrascht, dass wir sie bekommen haben. Aber Robin hatte an diesem Tag eine großartige Präsentation gehalten und es war, glaube ich, eine der wenigen Auszeichnungen, die als lobende Erwähnung verliehen wurden. Also sind die anderen Kommissare und Robin auf die Bühne gegangen und haben die Auszeichnung entgegengenommen. And now the boys even dressed up a little more nicely for the reception.
We thought there was a rule that everyone had to show their thighs, so Kurt and I wore short pants on the photo. But we didn't play around with the AI. Robin did a great job. I think this award already stood firm, because she already knew from the beginning that we would get an award. And I think she was for the good 66 task force and our great work with the students. That's really what the youth commission, the youth commission is all about. No, it was a great experience. We all learned a lot about Minneapolis and its efforts to preserve the city. It seemed as if they were really getting things right. And we all enjoyed it. All enjoyed it. I know. And the whole thing happened right after the cruise, which Robin coordinated with. She was, I know, stressed because of that. And I asked her a question at the conference that takes place next week. And she said, I haven't thought about it yet. So don't ask me. But no, she didn't say that. But she said, I haven't thought about it yet. I could see that she was pretty stressed. But then the three of us drove up with the car and had a great ride. And it was just a wonderful event.
I'm glad you liked it. Thank you for doing it.
um euch allen so etwas über die Stadt Minneapolis zu erzählen. Müssen die Verantwortlichen von St. Louis nach Minneapolis fahren. Na gehen, na gehen, na gehen. Es ist eine wunderschöne Stadt, makellos sauber. Waren sie Sonntagmorgen dort? Es gibt Togreiniger.
Und es ist
As if it is a living city. They are the city center. People live there. And for all of you who may not know it, the Avenue of the Saints, Highway 61, the route from St. Louis to St. Paul, to St. Paul.
That's where her name comes from.
And St. Louis has to drive this route. But on the other hand, I mean, the tours I did were incredibly interesting and The story they have up there, with the lead by the Afro-Americans up there. There is a fort called Fort Chiller. And Fred Scott, his wife, lives in this fort and was imprisoned there.
But that's interesting.
In the comment of Mrs. Chairman, I really enjoyed reading your observations, all of you. Falls Sie es nicht getan haben, finde ich es lesenswert. Sie können uns gerne Ihr Feedback geben. Denke aber, es bestätigt einige der Dinge, die in dem Plan stehen, an denen wir arbeiten werden. Insbesondere das afroamerikanische Erbe und die Arbeit der Ureinwohner kamen in den meisten Ihrer Beobachtungen häufig vor. Denke also, dass wir mit diesen Projekten auf dem richtigen Weg sind.
Vielen Dank, Kommissar Schaar. Ich habe noch etwas. Wissen Sie, es ist mir Ehre und Ich würde es gerne veröffentlichen. Ich würde es verbreiten und die Leute wissen lassen. Ich meine, die Wildwood Historical Commission ist für ihre gute Arbeit auf nationaler Ebene bekannt.
Nun, wie Sie wissen, haben wir vom 17. bis 19. Juli eine Kreuzfahrt veranstaltet. Die Gruppe ist kurz danach zur Konferenz gefahren. Es war fast Ende Juli. Die Abteilung hat die Informationen in den Bericht der Stadtverwaltung aufgenommen, der an alle Ratsmitglieder geht. Diese Sammelberichte sind dann jeden Monat Teil der Ratsunterlagen bei der Arbeitssitzung. Wenn Sie also online gehen und auf Berichte der Stadtverwaltung klicken, können Sie sehen, worüber wir im Laufe des Monats gesprochen haben. The department recorded the update last week and shared that we had been awarded with the awarding of the commission of the year by the body. That is the only disadvantage that we will not have this year. It will be an online version. We used to praise there.
Is there any further feedback? All right. Welcome to the next topic.
Thank you very much again, Madam Chairwoman, Madam Chairwoman and members of the Commission. There are a few more comments on this special topic. In consultation with Ms. Kiefer and me, we have decided that we will not offer tents for the Back-to-School Party in the year 2026. Dafür gibt es triftige Gründe. Wenn Sie schon mal bei der Essen Lock Cabin waren, wissen Sie, dass Sie bis nächsten Freitag nicht fertig sein werden. Secondly, this is in addition to Celebrate Whitewood, which I consider to be an autumn event, our biggest event in the summer. So we have Hüpfburgen, face paintings, balloon artists and a whole range of food and beverage vendors. We have a band, a very popular band, And Miss Key and I thought that the event in the Jefferson Barracks, the crusade, the 100th anniversary and the trip to Minneapolis would be a good opportunity for some members to take a step back and not to set up the tents for the Back-to-School-Party, but to prepare us for the next event, Celebrate Wildwood. However, there is one preparation, because as you know, the three cities will run through the sections of Route 66. Eureka Pacific and Wildwood will also organize evening events on Friday night at 9.30 p.m. So if you want to participate or want to participate in this event, you are welcome. Es ist sicher enttäuschend zu erfahren, dass das Zellteam nicht am Ende der Schulparty auftreten wird, aber wir beide hatten das starke Gefühl, dass vielleicht alle eine kleine Pause brauchten. A. Und wenn es Fragen gibt, beantworte ich sie gerne zu diesem Zeitpunkt. The next point concerns the next major event, the Celebration Whitewood, which will take place on Saturday, September 19. In the past, the Commission for Memorial Care played an important role in this event. As you know, they participated in the parade in the past, with which the festivities of the day begin. From there, tents are provided as part of the event. This year I have learned from a reliable source that the Law Cabin will be available. It is planned to set up at least two tents in connection with the Essen Law Cabin. There, the commission for monument protection will provide information about the city and hopefully also about the Attorney's Office. How you can take away the memorandum is very similar to the timeline of the past years. As you can see, we offer guides and interpretations through the hut. We have the postcards that have been developed for the 100-year celebration. Wir werden das Geschichtsbuch und T-Shirts zum Verkauf anbieten, sowie eine ganze Reihe weiterer Dinge, die hoffentlich Menschen in die Hütte, in die Geschichtszelte und zu ihnen allen locken sollen, damit sie darüber sprechen können, was Wildwood an diesem besonderen Gebiet noch einzigartiger macht, als ich es für richtig halte. Wir brauchen also Freiwillige, die sich mit ihnen zusammentun und ihre traditionellen Armdrückübungen machen. Ich mach nur Spaß. It's only written in her calendar from this perspective.
Joe, will we be present at the parade like in the past? Or...
I hope so. Miss Keff and I talked about it briefly. Last year was of course a special year, because the chairman Bachat and his friends had the coach and the two horses. And that was really something special. This year we are talking about something different. Maybe the Route 66 cake on a trailer, the banner they all wore at the parade last year and then only the Wildwood T-shirts, the handkerchiefs and things like that. So it's still in the planning phase. Mr. Larsen, I think I would be very disappointed if you weren't all there in any way. They did a great job. I think people really appreciate that they are here.
And Mrs. Chairman, a question to the director. Apart from the obvious RIPS 66 Centennial, there was an issue for this year's Parade and the decoration of the go-karts and golf carts in this regard. We were lucky. Well, there is a permanent commission called the Wildwood Celebration Commission, which was activated by a regulation. It plans this special event.
The theme of the parade and the event itself are many reasons to celebrate. And then we have the kind of coral reefs that we have on the occasion of the 100th anniversary of Route 66. We also have the country's 250th birthday. So these are the things we have explained to the people. If you are looking for a specific topic, the 250th birthday of the country could of course include a number of different approaches, such as Route 66. But the topic is, there are so many reasons to celebrate.
And this parade takes place on about six Saturdays, five or four Saturdays?
It comes very quickly. September 19th. September 19th.
This date is not in your memo, by the way. I'm pretty sure that's why. I could have...
But it says... It's the 19th, it should be the third Saturday of the month, but please don't rely on my calendar. So...
Thank you.
You're welcome.
And the Essence will also be there to answer questions about the hut. You were invited, right?
Actually, we hope that the band can be cut right after the opening ceremony, because it's been a while since... Yes, the parade ends, the crowd follows the parade to the end and goes to the grounds to take part in the opening ceremony. This is probably the time when we have the largest number of people besides the concert. And that's why we thought, if we could cut the band right after the opening ceremony, that would be great. And of course we would like to invite the commission and the city council. We ask for representatives of the club, the Essen family and of course the two sisters who donated the hut, as well as their family members. It should hopefully be a full place.
And we will have perfect weather.
I have good information. Good information. 24 degrees and sunny with a slight cool breeze.
So we have already conducted our forum conversation.
Yes ma'am.
An update. So what are we doing now?
I thought it would be appropriate to give you an update on the SM block hut tonight. Es war ein Prozess, der immer wieder auf und ab ging, was ein wenig frustrierend war, denke ich, für alle von uns, die ihn tagtäglich oder sogar wöchentlich miterleben. Ich möchte auf jeden Fall unseren Beratern hier bei der Kommission, Herrn Scott und Herrn Larsen, meinen Dank aussprechen. Sie waren so etwas wie meine Augen und Ohren. Ihre Fotos oder Vorschläge gebe ich an den Generalunternehmer, Herrn McDonald, weiter. Es gibt noch einige Dinge, die noch ausstehen. Es gab diese Woche Fortschritte. Ich würde sie als gute Fortschritte bezeichnen The only thing I would like to mention about what is written in the memorandum itself is that in view of the considerations in relation to the original offer of Sherrod Creek Excavating and the change arrangement that took place later in the process, the barrier-free path is built by another client who already has a contract with the city on the maintenance process. We have very good contractors, Cap Contracting, Trevor Hill, T-Hill Construction and others. My goal is to finish the hut as soon as possible. From the point of view of Sherrod Creek Activity, I know everything to appreciate what you have done, but we need a contractor who can keep up with the schedule and our schedule is September 19th. Wenn es Fragen zu den Informationen in dem Memorandum gibt, beantworte ich sie selbstverständlich gerne.
Frage bitte. Zuerst nur kurz am Rande. Sie werden die Fenster schlagen. Ich glaube, das ist die endgültige Farbe. Es ist ein wenig schockierend. Das Gleiche gilt für die Holzsockel im Inneren. I think a slightly darker color. But they repainted these windows. Yes, I know. That's a nice window. I mean, that's the color. Exactly.
Let's say the house door was also in somewhat blatant contrast. I don't know. It's white. And from the distance I actually thought, and forgive me for saying this, but it almost looks like a standard door, you know, and I know that it's not, but because of the color it looks like this.
The windows too. It almost looks like they're made of veneer, you know, vinyled or something like that. But maybe it's because they only had tinned walls back then and you had to treat untreated wood, you know, with milling. That could be it. I don't know. But who made this decision, Jodie?
It was certainly not the planning office.
Can you explore and find out if the architect did that? If that's all, I can definitely do that.
There could be other problems with the door. First of all, I don't see that in the drawing boards. Seen with a strength of 1.25 cm. These are 2.5 cm thick. So it should be thicker boards. You have to negotiate that with the construction company whether you want to change that. I mean, the doors are well made, but that's not really ... If you use one inch and two inches, it's one inch, right? So maybe it's pointed and so on.
Five quarters are inches. One inch is three quarters and ...
So that's 34. Yes. Oh, sorry.
So if you could check that out, I think I would definitely do that.
And I have often explained this to the project architect and Mr. Goh in various emails that we exchanged. I think, as a department, we are ready to accept a few things that may not be perfect, just to decouple us from the current contract.
Right. I understand. I feel this pain. But I would like to thank the members of Scott and Larsen for keeping us up to date.
It was really great to get the pictures and you both did a really great job.
I mean, it's not like we get updates almost every day. And it's pretty cool to follow this process. But Joe, my actual question, to get to the point here, was... On September 19th, will we have a kind of rudimentary landscape design there?
I'm not suggesting planting, but I'm just saying, will it still be the rock? Will we just clear the rubble or what do we think?
There will be a finished planning measure provided by Sherrod Creek. And maybe you remember as Kurz Gärtnerei bought the property in the Wildwood section of Chesterfield Valley, they had to convert it into a planning area, the M3. As part of this area, there is a traffic tax that is raised. As you may remember, Mr. Kurz negotiated with the city to avoid paying the once-off check and replace the amount of the check with mulch. Kurzgärtnerei begann als Rasenfarm in North County. Ich habe mit dem Stadtverwalter gesprochen und mein Gefühl ist, dass wir einen Teil davon mit Rasen bepflanzen werden, damit er zugänglich ist und die Leute dort spazieren gehen können.
Das ist eine großartige Lösung.
Und es gibt zwar Kosten, aber die Kosten sind, dass wir dann Rasen statt Mulch bekommen. Also.
Gut, ein guter Weg. Vielen Dank.
Which materials are used? Does it have to be renewed every year? So that would be a better price.
And as I said, Kurtz started as a lawnmower in North County and does a really good job. And I'm confident that we'll make it if we work out the details. and that it is hopefully a little root. Even if it doesn't root, I can't imagine that in the event of a rain before the event day there would simply be a chaos. So we have to find out.
Right. Are there any more comments on this topic? All right. We'll keep going.
Ms. Chairman, the next point concerns the J.P. Connell House. This memorandum contains two things that you probably don't want to hear. In recent months, the Planning Office has submitted the commission's recommendation for the incentive package. As a reminder, the northern 4 hectares should become a 3-hectare large property on which the J.P. Kommel House should be built and then another property, the bonus property for a new one, a family house. In the south, on the remaining more than 10 hectares, a kind of small industry, small business or possibly a kind of senior apartment should be created. We could never really determine the property owner in terms of these incentives, especially in relation to the southern part. I mentioned this because it was an important point in the decision of the city council. There was never a final proposal with a plan that they could have checked and said, yes, this is in the range of the cost-benefit ratio of a land use that would otherwise never have been taken into account to maintain the J.P. Connell House. Am vergangenen Montagabend lehnte der Stadtrat den vorübergehenden Mietvertrag ab, da er seiner Meinung nach keine Anreize rechtfertigt, ohne eine bessere Vorstellung davon zu haben, was dort vor sich geht. Erschwerend kommt hinzu, dass seit Januar dieses Jahres ein vorübergehendes Moratorium gilt. Ein entscheidender Faktor für die Dauer dieses vorübergehenden Moratoriums war die Genehmigung des Denkmalschutzplans. Seit Montagabend ist dieser Plan genehmigt und in Kraft. In wenigen Wochen endet das Moratorium und wir werden wieder Abrissgenehmigungen ausstellen. The property owner has since the beginning of the conversation, i.e. since the late winter or spring of 2026, a demolition permit, which, however, was put on ice due to the moratorium. So we have to work it out at some point. I explained to the representative of the property owner that at our meeting in the year 2024 at the TILS Standort dem JP Connell House mit St. Albans Properties eher über den Denkmalschutz als über den Abriss gesprochen haben. Damit es weitergehen kann, muss die Kommission für Denkmalschutz das Grundstück erneut besichtigen. Wir werden also das Verfahren befolgen, das in der Verordnung vorgesehen ist. Und leider weiß ich nicht, ob wir das Objekt retten können oder nicht. In the last minute, a man from the area of Boston, who now lives in West County of St. Louis, learned of the story of the J.P. Connell House. He came by and visited Melanie Ripto, the deputy director, and was very interested in receiving it. So he was ready to let his contact details arrive. The department gave these contact details to the owner and asked him to call him. The gentleman was at the city council meeting on Monday evening and said he had not heard anything from the owner. So the department recently sent another email with the request to at least ask and either say yes or no or any amount in between. So it could be that it will be a kind of knight's stroke, but of course the two parties have to talk to each other and we are doing our best to create this connection. You all have your contact details. I'm sorry. Ich weiß, dass Sie sehr hart daran arbeiten. Wir haben viele verschiedene Diskussionen gehört. Sie und ich mussten uns durch viele schwierige Themen kämpfen. Aber ich konnte dem Stadtrat einfach nicht guten Gewissens sagen, dass ich genau weiß, was auf den 10,5 Hektar südlich des Baches passieren wird. Das weiß ich nicht. Und wenn das Planungsamt es nicht weiß, dann wissen Sie es alle nicht. Comment from the perspective of the city council as one of the two people in contact here.
Ein Ratsmitglied brachte zur Sprache, ob es irgendwelche Verluste oder Nachteile geben würde, wenn man die Erkundung dessen fortsetzt, was offenbar zu einem zum Scheitern verurteilten Unterfangen geworden ist, durch die Handlungen und Unterlassungen des Grundstückseigentümers, wie es die Direktoren beschrieben haben. And it was expressed that the costs for the condition of the property itself, whether it is inevitable decay or accelerated decay, or unproven protection of the structure that every property owner had clearly had to be done in order to maintain the integrity of the property, with all the questions that came up before the restoration. All this was proposed by the majority of the council, which obviously decided that this would be a hopeless case. It would be as if you were following bad, good calories until February. Denke, man kann nicht aus Versehen sein Grundstück nicht so nutzen, dass es einen fortwährenden Vermögenswert darstellt und gleichzeitig den grundlegenden Respekt vor der Stadt haben, um beispielsweise die Berücksichtigung der Stadt zu respektieren. Ist das ein sehr, sehr wichtiges historisches Gut? Nun, das ist ein deutliches Zeichen dafür, was man the city would like to convey. So that this message that this council member had to agree without hesitation, which is based on a continued adherence to the demolition permit, which will be left free and clarified, by continuously or in the next few months or however long the next delay period for the issuance of this demolition permit will be continued. Is the matter really a decided matter? Looks like it's in the box now. It was seen as a fact. So that was the majority decision of the council. Yes, we tried it, but there were forces at work that simply against everything else than my will were. Give me a drive-in restaurant, give me a hardware store, give me something else that I want or the building will be torn down. Und ich möchte, dass der Direktor erwähnt, ob ich etwas gepostet habe und es falsch oder verkehrt gemacht habe.
Nein. Danke.
Frau Vorsitzende, wenn ich darf, wann? Wurde ein Drive-in-Restaurant Teil der Bedingungen?
So when we increased this temporary rental contract, after the council had originally granted us the permission to negotiate and we gave the city attorney the examination and application for it, we met with the property owner, that was Mr. Lee, our city administrator and the planning office, and he said, listen, I can rule it all. Give me a passage and I'll give you the four hectares north of the stream.
For me, this is a statement that says that we will shape the whole thing as honorably and incredibly as possible.
To make sure that there is a no vote. And that's why I have to agree with the city council. I'm sorry, but it almost seems pointless to continue if nothing is done from his side, except that his demand becomes even more ridiculous. And I'm not sure what we would do with it, but it could be a thought that
Now, as you know, Ms. Schoenfeld, we basically do two things when visiting a location. First, we try to explain it to you. Secondly, if that is not possible, are there things that you can save and use for the new building on the property? And if not, would you be willing to donate to society or the city or one of the organizations that accepts architecturally important materials, materials, things like that, and use them? Ich glaube, Mr. Scott, ich kann mich nicht an den Namen dieser Organisation erinnern. Die Baumaterialien annimmt und dann die Arbeit für Obdachlose... ...oder Habitat for Humanity, diese Dinge, wissen Sie, wissen Sie. Wir wollen nicht, dass es auf der Mülldeponie landet. Wenn wir es vermeiden können, es soll...
Yes, that's it.
Good memory.
The materials in this house are not worth being saved. It is the house that is worth being.
Yes, I agree.
Yes, I have to confirm this statement, that the house that we tore down, that we tore down,
For me, it's Tees House, but on top of the hill, Joe, what's the name of this settlement? West End. When we visited it, it was pretty spectacular from the inside.
There were beautiful, beautiful, you know, white oak quarter saw sockets, 20 centimeters high and cupboards and doors and so on and so forth.
It was spectacular. They didn't, I mean, I tried as hard as I could to make sure that we could save it and put it in one of the other houses or something like that. It's all just wandered into the trash. That's a tragedy for me as a woodcutter.
This J.P. Connell House, the house itself, the structure, that's what we want to preserve. And that's why I only said all this to complain. But I had a question.
How can we exploit this white knight, who is possibly galloping around? The council has already made its decision.
But it seems to me that if we have someone who can negotiate quickly and we can separate three hectares for the house or even one hectare or something like that and bring it into his possession, we can settle the rest with the rebellious owner who just wants to get rid of the building and it probably saves him some money because he doesn't have to tear it up. Gibt es da noch irgendeinen Hebel oder ist das eine beschlossene Sache, obwohl dieser Typ kam und fragte?
Nun, wie bereits erwähnt, Dr. Rambo, wir haben dem Grundstückseigentümer ein Angebot gemacht. Dann habe ich nach der Sitzung am Montag den Bauleiter kontaktiert, der für den Grundstückseigentümer arbeitet, und ihn gebeten, zumindest etwas freundlichen Druck auf den Grundstückseigentümer auszuüben, damit er den Herrn anruft, I'll try again. I'll try again.
My question came from the other side and the council said we should let it rest on its own. But now we have a potential opportunity and no one wants to delay it for another six months or something like that. But I wonder if there is a concrete possibility that we can still get it out of the race.
Well, the gentleman who is interested in the house of J.P. Conler spoke of only one hectare of property. He doesn't want more than that because he intends to live there when it is restored. So that's an incentive. But I think that's a simple incentive that generally depends on saving the value of the property.
The property number of the current owner from four to three, because he gives up one tomorrow, aren't that about twelve in the morning?
Yes, it's 14 and a half. So he has a little room to play. Okay. You know, mathematics doesn't speak for him. He's missing half a morning for five pieces of land. He's surrounded by a fence, so he can't take anything from a neighbor by calculating between two other pieces of land.
So he doesn't mind a division of land by four by four?
In fact, he could give up two and a half hectares for the house and still have a division in four pieces of land.
I didn't want to take on the commission's time further, but as a member of the council, I really hope that we, although the council voted against it, still have a little time to maybe do something about it.
So thank you, Joe. You're welcome.
And if everything is said and done, I think it would be helpful to have a discussion about what the commission could have done better to be a little more proactive, if at all. I'm not saying that the planning department did something wrong or the monument protection commission, but what could we have done better to maybe discuss this problem with the previous owners instead of waiting until something like this
First of all, we do not take criticism of the department personally. We make mistakes every day. This is how we get better, right? When people say that they have done it wrong or that they could have done it differently. So don't apologize and don't say anything like that. And I mean it honestly. The commission has leaned far out of the window. I think Mr. Larsen expressed it best. We are here to preserve this thing. If it is needed, we should consider it, in my opinion. And they all did. I don't know if they could have done that. In many respects, you have exposed the so-called blank cheque for the southern 10.5 hectares. I don't know if you could have done more, but... We have not exposed a blank cheque.
We have put our trust in the planning department.
Nun, vielen Dank. Aber dieses Vertrauen war diesmal vielleicht fehl am Platz, denn es sieht so aus, als würden wir es nicht retten können. Frau Vorsitzende.
Oh, hier drüben. Ich möchte nur eine Bemerkung machen, denn durch andere Dinge kenne ich die Persönlichkeit, die dahinter steckt. There are just people who fight and want to be indisputable. They can't win. What can they do? They want the sky, the moon and the stars. And that doesn't have to be like that. I'm not talking about this person. There are all kinds of people out there. And I don't think it's a possibility to win against them. I have the feeling that he has been caught on the wrong foot for some time.
Nun, als Teil der Arbeitprogramm, wir behalten das auf der Liste. Und wenn wir die nächsten Schritte angehen, werden wir Sie im Arbeitsprogramm informieren, falls sich etwas ändert. Sollte es etwas Positives geben, schicken Ihnen Robin oder ich oder wir beide eine E-Mail. Sie wissen, es gibt immer Hoffnung. Uh... Um... If you are an indigenous person who does not belong to a certain race, you obviously no longer have a history that is worth preserving. And that is regrettable. They restrict the definition of historical cities in order to exclude certain cultural landscapes as holy tribal cities and traditional cultural assets as Agena. They are narrowing and possibly eliminating the role of the state monument protection offices, the tribal monument protection offices of local governments, USW and, as I already said, take projects, even federal projects, from their own examination. Obviously, these organizations and others who are very concerned about monument protection are trying to prevent it, if not even change it. But Miss Kiefer thought that this information would be important, that you should know it. Der letzte Punkt ist nur eine Erinnerung an die CEG-Schulung. Es kommt die Zeit des Jahres, Ende September, in der wir den Bericht an das Missouri State Historic Preservation Office übermitteln. Die gute Nachricht ist, dass Miss Keith gut darin ist, Aufzeichnungen zu führen. Die meisten Mitglieder haben ihre Schulungsanforderungen erfüllt. Wenn Sie es also noch nicht getan haben, wird sie sich mit Ihnen in Verbindung setzen.
Ich habe Miss Keith gefragt, aber ich habe keine Antwort erhalten. When will the conference take place in September in Lebanon and whether it has information about it? Why is it worth taking part in it? Is the content good and how much does it cost? Because that would interest me. It's Lebanon. It only takes two days.
Well, it's about the Missouri Preservation Conference. I don't know much about it myself, but I think Mr. Larsen, Mr. Scott, Mr. McDonald and Ms. Keefe will talk at the conference about the reconstruction of the block huts of SN. They keep the negative energy out of this board. But we can certainly provide you with more information. The point is, of course, that the trip to Minneapolis was partly financed by a grant that the city received from the State Office for Memorial Care through the federal government. But in cases like this, the city takes over the costs of the conference and some of the expenses, but not all. So if you are interested, we will take over the costs of the expenses and then I will talk to the city administrator about what other financial means we currently have available to support you if you want to participate, if you want to participate. But there is more information. Frau Vorsitzende, ich denke, ich habe meine Aufgabe erfüllt und benötige weitere Fragen. Ich weiß es zu schätzen, dass Sie meine Stimme in den letzten paar Stunden ertragen haben. Oder was?
Vielen Dank, dass Sie für Robin eingesprungen sind und alles getan haben, was Sie tun. Joe. Alles klar, unser nächstes Meeting findet am 24. September statt. Und wenn alle mit an Bord sind, danke ich euch.
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