Health & Human Needs Committee - Regular Meeting

of the AAA Governing Board, and want to recognize right off the bat that we are very happy to welcome two new members, one of whom was able to join us today, one of whom sends their regrets, but welcome, Ted, back to the, I think it's back, right, to the AAA Board? Yeah, so thanks for coming back. And then Allie Schauer, we'll look forward to meeting at our next meeting, hopefully. Cindy, would you be willing to please do the roll call?

Yeah. And Chair Diane Farsetta. I am here. Ron Coon. Here. Helen Pan. Supervisor Patrick Downing.

Downing here.

Supervisor Heidi Wegleitner. She said she was running late. Amy Werf.

Here.

And Ted Bunk.

Yeah.

And Abby is not here with us, so we do have enough for quorum.

All right, excellent. Thank you so much. So then next up is consideration of the minutes of our last meeting on June 1st. And this is an opportunity if anyone wants to, and I see Helen just joined, if anyone has comments or corrections regarding the minutes from June 1st. And I'll pause for a minute.

Downing will move them as presented.

Excellent, thank you so much.

I'll second.

All right, so moved and seconded. All those in favor of agreeing to the minutes as provided, please say aye.

Aye.

Anyone opposed? And anyone abstaining, which can include folks who are not present at the last meeting. All right. So that being done, we are very happy to welcome our guest speaker, Cheryl Cato. Thank you so much. Who is both the founder and the executive.

Well, I'm excited to be here. I've wanted to be here for a thousand years. And I am Cheryl Cotto, director, executive director, child, adult, and family therapist at the Rainbow Project. We describe ourselves as a child, family, counseling, resource, and community clinic, resource clinic, and have been working in the Madison-Dane County area since 1980. So we're in our 46th year working with about 40,000 children and families. But our primary goal is helping children and families who have experienced trauma. So I think we're most known for the area of child abuse and neglect, domestic violence and child sexual abuse, but also broader trauma. experiences, including grief, loss, separation, community violence, natural disasters, sometimes hospitalizations or physical or mental illness, and many other areas. And we start with infants all the way through middle school. And right now, because of the crisis in mental health, we are also working with some adolescents as well. So just to give you that broader picture and probably more than you care to have, I have some information on that. But right now, today, I wanted to just talk about our grandparents and other relatives as parents. And that started in 2004 with five or six grandparents, feisty grandparents, who were the primary caregivers for their grandchildren. And that is where the start of all of this began. And now it is other relatives as well as grandparents. And that in 2004 was something the Rainbow Project Board became invested in. Even though we had five or six grandparents, they knew what the demographics would be like. Nationally, they were saying it was a 64% increase in grandparents who are raising their grandchildren. So with that, we were writing grants because we realized this is a special population that has some really unique financial and other kinds of issues. And so we were kind of cocky about the fact that we had different kinds of funding at that time. But it has changed over time now and challenging. And yet in 2004, we had maybe six but I just am saying it's grown from 35, 47, 28, 33. You know, it's just really growing so much more. And so we have hired two lived experience grandma and grandpa who are also co-facilitating the group. And then we have wonderful Kim and Paul who are also a part of that group. Since I'm older, I am doing the history part of it, but I could speak chapters about this particular program and how wonderful it is. And I wish you could experience it, and I actually invite people to come on that Saturday. Because there are more and more members, the actual length of time that the meetings are are getting longer and longer, so everyone has a chance to really speak, but they can invite other members of who speak to them from the community, including judges and attorneys and with grandparent rights and whatever they identify. So I just am so proud of these and they still are all very feisty. And it's just one of those where you read in textbooks about how groups are really beneficial This is an example that really does shine in terms of showing that they could say to each other things that perhaps professionals did not say, but they've been there, there's respect. And I just will say before handing it over to Kim, I remember a new grandparent, grandma, at first day and the meeting, and she's listening to everybody, all the other grandparents, and she, pounds the desk and says, okay, I'm ready now. And she discloses her issues because she knew everybody else had been there. And that made such a difference in how welcoming they all were. Can't say enough. And to thank the county for continuing to fund. Paul, do you want to go or Kim?

Kim, it's up to you. I'm fine.

Can you hear okay? I can hear. Sorry, I couldn't unmute for a minute. Yeah, I would love for Paul to have his perspective, but I'll just say a few things beforehand. We've really enjoyed growth in the group. And one of the areas that has really grown is that there are more men in the group. They really have started coming as couples. and one of the partners would come and really encourage the other one to come because it is a place where you can really share what's going on. And it's different than sharing with your other friends because so many people, are in retirement and doing things other than raising a four year old, which I really admire the 75 year olds who are keeping up with three and four year olds. Their energy is amazing, but they really appreciate being able to share with other people who can understand where they're coming from their challenges. Sometimes the challenges is the behavior that they see in the children, but oftentimes it's the interaction with the parents that they can share with each other ways of handling situations when the parents are coming and it causes challenges for the child and the parent, and just get some reinforcement on how to handle some of those situations. And Paul, is that you?

Okay. Thank you, Hon. It's really good to be here with you. I didn't prepare anything formal. I'm certainly willing to answer any questions you might have, but let me tell you just a bit about how I got involved and where I'm at right now with the group. Kim and I have nine grandchildren. One of them we raised until he was six and a half. And we had three others in our home for about two years. And they are now all with parents, which is a good thing. And then we did have another grandchild with a six and a half year. I think there was about a year. So we've had that experience. However, we did not know about the group, or at least I didn't know about it. And so we didn't have the opportunity to share with this experience that we were having with others. And it really would have come in very, very handy for us, especially As the child was exiting our house and we obviously had a preference which parents should be the primary parent because they were not married. And unfortunately it was not my stepdaughter or Kim's daughter, it was the other individual. And so it was stressful, really stressful to have to go to court, deal with all those issues of guidance coming into the house and interviewing us and it was a very long process. These are the kinds of things this group, however, talks about on a regular basis. Often, and I say this cautiously because it comes in, it seems in streaks, but often we'll have a whole session not talking about the children that they're taking care of because grandparents are pretty skilled. By the time they have these children in their home, they've made all the mistakes like I have early on. And when you get your grandkids, you have, you know, you have a better idea of what not to do and what to do. And so, and the wisdom that's in that room really assists. grandparents with the parent part as well. But ironically, it's often the extended family and issues with the children of the child that the grandparent has that is the challenge. So sometimes that is our primary focus and often is, although the children always are a part of it. So it's really, it's a balancing kind of act. And And there's enough wisdom in that room sometimes to deal with legal issues, with working with social services. And if not, there is the opportunity to occasionally have a pro bono attorney in to talk. And could we use that more frequently? Yes, probably. But nonetheless, It suffices many times to have the grandparents who are there. My background is I was trained as a therapist and I worked as a school counselor and I did do some case management early on in my career. And I've been retired now for quite a while. But I go into that group and learn things. And I have that background and training and experience, yet I'm learning from lived experience. I think that's really a powerful impact of a group like that. It's the lived experience.

You don't really know that culture until you hear that, you know, grandpa says, this is not what I planned for my retirement. And so there are those kinds of issues. But adult children even will say, what about my children? So instead of saying, no, let's be proud of yours. your mom for doing for you know that uh your mom and dad doing that so and also professionals i've seen who are really biased and say you know you didn't do very well with your adult child what makes you think and those are worlds that you don't realize they're experiencing and so that's all the more why they need about the grandchildren who are getting childcare that we provide. There was an eight-year-old, he's kind of going on 40 years old in his own way. And a four-year-old's first day in the group when his father, single dad passed away. And so the grandparents became instant parents to this four-year-old. And he looked scared and the eight-year-old came over And he said, and I still get goosebumps, he says, don't worry, we were all raised by our grandchildren, you know, our grandparents. And you wouldn't know that he knew that, but he knew that that four-year-old needed to hear that. So that's another thing that I think is comforting is that they're also being with others in that same situation. And those things make a difference as they grow up as well. But yes, we actually had a judge come in and grandparents said, what are the things that make you decide who gets custody and who doesn't? things like that. And I remember as the door was closing, she said, it's the Constitution, it's not what I say. Because they're so tough in terms of the questions they ask and the, you know, I mean, these are opportunities and they are asking for who they want to speak to and speak to them. So I can't say enough about that in terms of their assertiveness and They also were a part of the legislative committee. They formed Marching to Finance Committee at the Capitol to support kinship care costs going up and bullying in the schools curricula. So I say they're feisty.

Yes.

And I think the whole idea of grief and loss is something we spend a lot of time with. It's grieving. their adult child often. And it's also the way they can then help their grandchildren and other relatives if they are able to process that themselves.

Are the monthly group meetings, are they virtual or in person at this point? They're both. They're both. But we thought during COVID,

that the grandparent group would be the last ones to be able to virtually do it they were the first yeah they needed it they wanted it first and so now mostly they are coming in person some have mobility issues or don't have an automobile and they come online

And I was with the AAA when Lynn Green was here and put the amount of money in from the National Family Caregiver Fund. And that seems to, that has remained the same because that grant has not gone up. It's only gone down. But you spoke to, you know, other funding streams somewhat drying up or would, would, would GORB for that program, if there were additional funds, would it be offered? Is there a need? Let's put it that way. to offer it more than one Saturday a month? Or is that about the bandwidth of, I'm a grandparent raising grandkids and we got soccer and baseball and school and, you know, is that about the bandwidth of?

That's a really good question. And we ask that every day since 2004, but I think that's why the actual length on Saturdays has lengthened. So that's one thing, but we also have a specialty um topic area which was on a tuesday and there were families that came and that focus was on grief and loss um so there are there are needs for that um additionally and i think that being together though is so critical um you know there is that isolation um in their finances I mean, I remember neighbors for one of the members, they had extension cords across the yards so that her electricity was gonna run out. So they can get their medication free, but can they get their grandchild's medication, all those complications too, including housing.

Do the grandparents that participate many of them involved with kinship care through the county or no? I don't know, Kim. Do you know that?

I would say about half of them get kinship care through the county.

Okay.

Thank you all for sharing. And other folks, feel free to ask questions as well. But I also want to say I appreciate it. to hear that you are also, in addition to getting the support that you all and the members need, are doing advocacy. And I'm curious if anything comes to mind that the aging network is lacking in turn, or like has blind spots. I mean, you know, it's an awareness thing. Are there things that we could do in our outreach and information sharing to... you know, services for older adults around the county that might be of support.

I just know that the board at Rainbow in 2004 was right, that this is a growing population and that even if they're not attending work, we have folks who are involved in our trauma treatment and those groups are growing too in terms of grandparents. or other relatives who are involved, and that includes community violence and some of the other things that are happening that they end up being the caregivers for. I do think communicating and outreach is that awareness of support. We used to get state funding and we were part of a whole statewide group that wanted to provide technical assistance to some who are in the rural areas and wanting to start something like ours. And so we were providing help with that. But, you know, just really trying to support whoever wants to. And then also caregivers. Some of the ages are 40s to the 80s. And some are from a generation where self-care is they kind of scoff a little bit so we had some um massage people coming in and that really kind of swept them into shape as far as lining up now often anymore like this but that stress management part of it too i think is is so important um

Go ahead.

I was just going to say that probably housing is one of the biggest challenges. If they don't own their own home, then they often have to find a larger apartment once the children move in. So we're very grateful. There are a few places that have special apartments that allow children to be there with all of the other support that elderly housing usually gives, but it's very rare and the wait list is long. So affordable housing, which is challenging for everyone, is probably one of the biggest things. And then to have the children in activities, you know, putting them in sports, which many of them enjoy, but it's pretty challenging on a limited income for some of the equipment if they're in hockey or things like that. It's surprising how expensive that is. They're usually very good at sharing resources or things like Finding clothing for the children, the various places like Luke's Closet in Middleton that provides clothing at no expense. They are really good at networking and sharing that network with each other. But some of those are the bigger challenges or to send them to summer camps where they might get skills like soccer camps or things like that. So those are some of the challenges that they've had.

Thank you. And Brian? Yeah, perhaps I misunderstood the opening statements. If you said something to the effect about grandparents and sexual abuse, did that mean the effect of them caring for people that their grandchildren or whoever the kids are that they were sexually abused or did it pertain to the grandparents themselves doing something naughty with the grandkids?

Oh, I think in no way. you mean um and that is just in general with the rainbow project but that doesn't so that's separate from the uh corp program but that doesn't mean that some of those kids have not grandkids have not uh experienced trauma themselves yes but from the grant from a grandparent oh no no no okay all right i just wanted to make sure no that was good to clarify yes yeah no and have never card business card of some sort here you go because it's getting to be that time of the year when donations i think that's what's helpful though because i think the rainbow project has several programs and sometimes we may have an active waiting list so we are enrolling families but we continue to get referrals and sometimes in waiting the grandparents program is really helpful because we can refer to them at least for some support until there is an opening too.

Nice, thank you. Any other questions or comments for our guests?

I just really appreciate this. And, you know, sometimes there are generations of trauma and it's an opportunity for us sometimes with two or three generations that we've been able to support. And so I appreciate the support that you get.

Yeah. Well, and I'll just throw in there quickly, too, that when children have their grandparents involved even though if it's stressful and you know and and maybe not due to the greatest of circumstances those kids do grow up with a different appreciation of a wider variety of people right because our our society is so age segregated yes so you you do find um i know so many people working in gerontology who were raised by their grandparents, right? And they just have this like really wider awareness of society.

So we've given some awards out and I know Senator Baldwin has come and provided the presentation just because she was raised by her grandparents. And so I think that has helped people who've come out. I think a judge in Milwaukee has done the same thing in admitting that he's raising his grandchild. So I think we're sometimes supporting through three generations in terms of some of their experiences.

Yeah. Sure. All right. Well, thank you all very much for, yeah, your time and for all your listening. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Lynn.

I just wanted to say thank you all for coming today and presenting for us. And also wanted to just make sure everyone in the room knew that we did RFP, the GORP program again this year. And I'm happy to say that Rainbow Project was awarded the contract again for this period. So happy to have you on board still. Thank you. Thank you.

All right. Well, excellent. Thank you. I'm hiding in the corner.

All right.

Always good to hear from folks directly providing services.

All right. Thank you. Thank you. Moving on our agenda, we do not have action items. So the next thing up is reports to the board. And I do see Laura Langer on. So welcoming her to join us with her always helpful updates from state and national levels.

Thank you. It's nice to be here. I have a few updates. The first one deals with evidence-based health promotions. The Administration for Community Living, which is ACL, administers most of the Older Americans Act programs, and they have recently approved several new evidence-based promotion classes, including one called AgeTastic, another one called Eat Smart, Move More, and Prevent Diabetes, Feeling Fit Club, and Standing Up for Your Health. We know that these are important programs throughout the state of Wisconsin, and last year, Wisconsin offered over 80,000 hours of programming to evidence-based health promotion programs. So we look forward to seeing some of these new ones that have been approved implemented throughout the state. I'll also put the link to ACL with the list of all the programs, and I'll send it in the chat, and then I will also send it to Cindy separately. I want to let you know also September is falls prevention month. I have processed a proclamation to the governor's office and we're just waiting for that to be completed. Once I receive that back, I will send it out to the aging network for people to utilize in their newsletters and with other local community programs that they have to draw more awareness to the importance of older Americans at programs and falls prevention in particular. The third item I have is that we are already starting to follow the federal budget, and hopefully it will be passed in a more timely manner than last year. As you may recall, it was delayed for quite a while last year, which delayed us as the state getting our funding and therefore the contract to the counties. We're planning the same process for next year in the event that there are any delays in the federal Congress. So just making you aware of that. And the last item is to invite you all to attend the Wisconsin Aging and Disability and Independent Living Conference, which is September 21st to the 23rd at the Kalahari Resort in Wisconsin Dells. This year's topic is Mission Possible, Strengthening Our Role as Agents of Change Through Innovation and Collaboration. This is open to anyone in the general public and certainly to all of your board members to join us. And I'll put that link also in the chat and forward it to Cindy after the meeting. Thank you.

Thank you so much for the updates. Does anyone have questions or comments? All right. Yeah. We, as always appreciate the updates and always nice to have more evidence-based programming. Hopefully the funding for those kind of activities will also increase. A girl can dream. All right. Okay. So then next up on our agenda is a quick rundown of other committees that have met our subcommittees and other related county committees. So legislative advocacy committee. On June 24th, they had an update from the GORE Advocacy and Public Policy Director, Emily Peterson, and she shared that the state priorities include home-delivered meals, aging disability resource centers, falls prevention programs, speaking about the evidence-based, and specialized transportation programs. And they also had updates on the State Aging Advisory Council, and their next meeting is actually not until October. Um, in October 28th and then our nutrition wellness subcommittee, um, hasn't met since our last meeting. So no new notes there, but they are meeting two days from today on August 5th. Um, health and human needs committee, um, met June 11th and July 9th. And that July 9th meeting, um, included. updates from the County Disability and Aging Services Division, from Angela, and from the AAA office, from Lynn. And then there was also a discussion after those and other updates that I just thought was interesting. It's not actually explicitly related, but they were discussing a potential public human services contract dashboard to increase public information sharing, which seemed like a really good idea to me. So their next meeting is again later this week on August 6th. And then Specialized Transportation Commission has met twice since we last met. And then actually their May meetings were not available the last time we met. So I'll just do a quick thing. So May 27th, they had a presentation on Metro Paratransit Services. And then each of these meetings, they also have regular updates from the Transportation Call Center and the Greater Madison Metropolitan Planning Organization. So I won't say that every time. And then June 25th, for the meeting updates. Any questions or additions from folks who are involved in those committees? All right. So board member status, as we said, we're very happy to welcome Ted and Ali. And I don't know, Lynn, if you want to add anything

No, I think that both of those conversations started with Ted and Allie through our advisory council recruitment process. And Ted was kind enough as a member of our legislative advocacy committee. Ted was generous with his time and helping us do those meet and greets with all our advisory council applicants. And one of the other people we met during that process was Allie. And so we talked to her about joining our board instead of the advisory council, and she agreed. She is out on a medical appointment today, so could not join us, but she looks forward to joining us at the next meeting. So happy to have them both.

Thank you. And that means we only have one open seat, I believe. So that's great. All right.

And then what is next?

advocacy, but I wonder with Ted joining the board and then Amy, right, you're also on legislative advocacy. So that meets our two board members, unless one of them is stepping down. Okay. Amy is staying on. I'm kidding.

So yeah, you're, you're right with Ted joining the board that does fill that requirement. Thank you.

All right, excellent. Well, we're just checking all sorts of things off.

But thank you for being willing to do that. Yeah, I appreciate it.

Of course. Okay, so then next up, we're on to chair and staff reports and report back on the world elder

Yeah, so we held that across the street from the ADRC over in the city parking lot that is connected to the Mallards field there. And we had 332 cars there. That's almost double our last year. So it was a record setting. I didn't get the amount of pounds of papers that were shredded. But this year we also added the electronics recycling and we had 769 pounds of electronics that went through that recycling process. And we only did small electronics. So it was a very, very successful event that we hope continues. to continue annually and keep growing that success on that event. It's a bit of a traffic challenge. We have a lot of volunteers. I think we had 15 volunteers from APS and the Area Agency on Aging and really keeping traffic flowing through that parking lot. But we did it. We only backed up a couple times. It was good. It was a good, well-organized event. I plan that with Beth Freeman, the manager of Adult Protective Services, and a great team over there.

And then, are you Nellie? I'm Nellie. All right. So next up is welcome Nellie. Hi, everybody.

Hello. I don't know where I'm looking at the camera. I am... The new Shannon. Big shoes to fill with Shannon. So I'm the new dietitian here at AAA in the nutrition department. I'm coming from a background in community nutrition. So I was previously working with Goodman Community Center on the east side of Madison. Originally from North Carolina. And I did my dietetic internship in Green Bay. So I've been in Wisconsin for about four and a half years now. And I'm happy to be here. And I'm super excited to kind of be working closer with the older adult population than I have in the past. It's something that I'm really passionate about, so.

And we are happy to have her here. On the agenda, I put the staff reports, not by importance, by date. So sorry, Nellie wasn't number one, but she is. She is our number one. I put them by date on that order there. So happy to have you here. I can't even believe we're talking about that. She's almost been here three months, but time has flown.

Yeah.

And then I think your report back on the informational session with legislators.

Yeah. So most people here were there. We had that in the middle of June and we worked with the ADRC board in planning that. And, um, I think it was successful, but we did only have four to four or five legislators there, but with the 40 or so people in the room, I think it was very impactful. Um, we had four, um, constituent residents, Dane County residents that spoke on the four targeted areas that, um, one, um, has identified for, um, The importance to highlight this year was falls prevention, funding for the ADRC, funding for, I had them up in front of me.

and specialized transportation.

Thank you. And so we had a speaker on each of those topics about how those services have impacted their life. I think the speakers all did an excellent job. We're very impactful. I think everyone in the room was moved. And as we were leaving, I said to Lacey Fox that I was disappointed by the attendance of legislators. And she said, you know what? You only need a couple champions, and you just might have gotten them out of this room. I thought it was a good event and we will continue to build on that again. You know, we'll do it again in two years because it will be in every other year on the even years. And I hope to have more future successful legislators days.

Yeah.

And anybody who was there that wants to add to that report, please do.

I'll just underline like how like each speaker was just like, you know, mic drop, like just the intensity, the on point, the like people just told these really compelling stories. And yeah, it just did a great job of illustrating, you know, whoever helped pick the people to speak, like kudos to the speakers, kudos to the people who picked the speakers. But I see Ron and Ted's hand are both up.

From my perspective, being a relatively new member, I thought it was extremely well organized to the degree that I think, if at all possible, new members, such as myself, would learn a great deal of exactly how it affects people directly. Perhaps I need more of that. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Excellent.

And Ted? I totally agree that the event was a success. It was motivating and it was inspirational. And what I don't know is how many of us left that room and then contacted our state senators, our state representatives. I know for sure 100% I did. And it gave me a good entry point, a good hook with both of those people because I could say, sorry, I missed you at this event, but I'd like to meet with you. And so I did meet with one of them, my state senator, and we talked for almost an hour. It was good. And I communicated in writing more with my state representative, but I messaged him three times and we made the contact with our key points. So the only thing I'm I'm trying to say right this minute has to do with the idea that hopefully there were a lot of spinoffs from this event. And maybe there's a way to track that. Maybe there's not. I don't know. But I do know 100% it gave me a good hook and it worked. So in addition to the event itself, I did contact my elected officials and had good communication with them. So that's what I wanted to say. Thank you.

Thank you. And Supervisor Downing.

Oh, thank you. Tell us, who were the four legislators that showed up?

George was one. Carvel, was she there? Yes.

Yep. Carvel.

Yep, was there. Bill George. Yeah, I don't think I know yet.

The other two I'm not familiar with. They were newly carved out?

There was someone who's like part of their district county and part is outside. I think that's carnival though. I think.

No, it's not different. OK. Yeah. It's something we can find out though and get back to you about. I just don't recall the last two.

For today, could I hear their first and last names, please?

Maureen Acarbo.

Okay.

Is Alex yours?

Yes. Okay.

And then Lynn, I don't know if you're looking at them.

I don't know first names, but Heisel and Fitzgerald.

All right. Thank you.

Yeah.

And just some positive feedback from Guar that Emily Peterson thought that you guys did a great job of getting four representatives. A lot of the other counties are lucky to get one. So she was very impressed that you guys were able to pull together and get four representatives. So I would pass that along.

Yeah. Especially for the first time in 10, right?

Yeah.

Thank you, Cindy. And they, you know, they were all there for the hour and a half, along with our human services director, John Schluter, and County Executive Melissa Agard were also there for the entire hour and a half. That was good.

Yeah.

And Supervisor Downey.

Sorry, I haven't taken the handout. I'll try to do that now.

All right. Any other questions or comments? Oh, Ted. Oh, and you're muted. You're muted, Ted.

Is there any information or data about the other counties and, you know, how it worked in the other counties so we have sort of a more general statewide perspective?

Yeah, Juan is collecting that, so I can report on that in September. I'll get what else happened this summer from Emily and report out on that in September.

Thank you.

All right. So then next up under the reports is love to hear about the first meeting of the advisory council.

It was right there in that room that you all are sitting in. We had 11 of the 12 new members there. And I did an introduction to AAA. presentation there. They spent a lot of time doing introductions and getting to know each other, which is very important and what they bring to the table. And then we did chair and vice chair elections. And there was a very happy with the number of nominations that went around the room and discussion that followed from those. And so our chair is um get up bar uh from middleton he's a previous mayor of middleton and um our vice chair is linda ketchum from justane nice yeah all right and they are working on scheduling um three more meetings yet this year we're gonna meet three more times this year and Claire is on vacation, but she is the staff liaison for that group and is working on scheduling those meetings, getting everyone together three more times yet this year. So we will report out again in September. Fabulous.

All right. Well, thank you so much. And then, yes, the last thing under the chair and staff reports are the presentation to the health and human needs. And there's a link. Anything you want to add about that?

Nope, I don't think so. Angela and Supervisor Weigleitner was there. And Diane, of course, I think it went okay. It was short and sweet. I hope I didn't talk too fast, but it was more of an annual report, but I encourage you all to click on that link in the agenda and review it.

To the front row.

All right. I feel like we're being very efficient today, which is great. It's a nice sunny day.

Sure. All right. All those in favor, please say aye.

Aye.

Anyone opposed? No one's opposed. Probably no one's abstaining. All right. Well, thank you all so much, and we'll see you next September 14th.