Planning Board - Regular Meeting

Everyone, I call the meeting to order. You kindly join me in reciting the pledge of allegiance.

I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the stands nation and justice for all. So, welcome. Welcome to the Town of Brunswick Zoning Board of Appeals, the regular meeting November 20, November 17th, 2025. We'll begin by reviewing the draft minutes of our previous meeting held on October 20th, 2025. I make a motion to approve the minutes without any correction. Would a member second? I'll second. Thank you, Patricia. All in favor?

Thank you. approved without amendment. We'll review the agenda as was posted on the town website. For first application, we have 538 VZnney and extension and area variance public hearing. Then we have 318 Plank Road area variances of public hearing followed by 103 Creger Lane area variance public hearing. Just want to note that the quick check bowler Marie Muse uh signed variance public hearing um is going to be for next month at our December meeting which is December 15, 2025. And then for a new business, we'll begin with AJ Sign at 735 Hous Road, a freestanding pylon sign, followed by AJ Sign Company, 7:35 Hous Road at Chipotle Sign Package. After that, Anchor Sign, Inc. at 7:35 Hous Road Mattress Firm Wall Sign. And then lastly, Kyle Smith at 1692 New York 7 seeking an iridian.

It was posted that the um 5:30 mz extension public hearing would begin at 6:15. But I think we can begin with the introductions and the recaps and probably by the time that it is 6:15 we can hold a public hearing. So I would ask the applicant um at 538 New Extension just to kind of come up uh review the project and tell us if there has been any changes to the application since the last building department. Did you hear from the police at all? No.

Okay. They're going to come. Okay. All right. The courtesy of the extra minutes for sure. That should be Cheers.

Oh, quickly. way back up. I was probably 45 minutes. It was just getting to six.

They were showing up. What's that? me.

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All right. In the interest of everyone's time, we'll adjourn that and we'll move on to 318 Plank Road seeking area variances. So, the applicant and the survey like to come up and review the application, please. There been any changes since your last year. If you can kindly go over what you just submitted to the board, the um the change in the design.

Um yeah, so u there is no changes to the actual plan. And I just reubmitted an EF stating the two variances where before we we hadn't written that fully out in in the EF. So I just amended that to show that there are going to be two area variances as part of part of this and I did uh bring some updated maps that have some distances on them. The board has requested to just see that for more of a visual aspect of the project. So I put the distance on a couple maps. Other than that nothing has changed. the uh house rather building the primary structure and um it's only 25 ft off the road back instead of 54.

Okay, great. Um so on the new um plot that you just handed back um do you show the distance between the garage to the house that number? I don't have that distance on there, but I can scale it really quick and give you a rough number. just Yeah, thank you.

So, from the front corner of the house to the back corner of that garage, it's just shy 50

15. So then just to review, the applicant is seeking two area variances. One is a front yard setback. What's being proposed is 25 ft where it's required is 50 ft. And then an accessory structure in front of a primary structure, the garage that you find in the house. That's the secondary variance. So, this public hearing was noticed at 6:30. Um, so we kind of give courtesy to the public to observe the 6:30. Are there any questions by any of the zoning board members at this time? And on what page did you make the amendment on the short environmental assessment form for the two area?

Uh I just put it in the uh in the description. You can note at this time that Rston County um Bureau of Economic Development Planning has acted and is determined that the proposal does not have major impact on county plans and that local consideration shall prevail. You can take a seat for now.

I'll leave this here in case anybody from the public wants. Okay. Thank you. Right.

Yeah. You will also note that the um first application um at the six o'clock public hearing will be notice and we schedule for our next meeting. Our next meeting is December 15th of 2025 and that is strange, right?

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Quickly. As it is 6:30, the zoning board will open the public hearing. hearing on the application at 318 Plank Road seeking area variances. We'll note that the public hearing was posted um on the town sign board on the town website and published in the Troy record, also mailed to all owners of adjacent property within 300 ft of the project site. Mr. Post, please.

Yes. Notice of public hearing. Notice is hereby given that a public hearing will be held by the zoning board of appeals of the town of Brunswick at 6:30 p.m. on Monday, November 17, 2025 at the Brunswick Town Mall, 336 Town Office Road, Brunswick, New York 12180, concerning the application submitted by Alex Beas for two area variances in connection with the installation of a garage on property located at 318 Plank Road. The application requests an area variance for front yard setback and also a variance for locating an accessory structure closer to the fronting road than a principal structure on the lot. Copies of the application are available at the preser town hall and are available for public inspection during regular business hours. All interested persons will be heard after the public hearing.

Thank you very much. Anyone like to speak for or against the application? your willing to come up to the podium.

Kevin, has the billing department received any written commentation? Thank you.

Hearing no public comment, I make a motion to close the public hearing with a member second. Second. Thank you, Patricia. All in favor of public hearing portion of this application is closed. The zoning board members are prepared to deliberate and act on the application. We'll note that it's a type two under seeker. So no further seeker determination is required. The zone board members will review the standard elements for the consideration of the area variances. The board is asked to explain how no undesirable change would be produced in the character of the neighborhood or a detriment to nearby properties created by granting the area variances. We'll note that this property is developed on an incline at the side of a hill. The 26 foot by 30 foot uh garage is proposed to be situated up off of Plank Road and a level area that is well screened from the above neighbor on the left by BM Lake Hill and also vegetation. Also the screen from the front neighbor across Plank Hill also by vegetation. Other properties um on Plank Road have the uh garages and accessory buildings that are characteristic of a residential neighborhood. Then we're asked to explain um why the benefit saw by the applicant cannot be achieved by some method feasible for the applicant to pursue other than requested area variances. We can note um as well as the applicant noted the topography of the lot as well as the location of the septic field and leechfield limited the feasible alternatives replacement of the proposed garage.

The board is also um asked to describe whether the requested area variances are substantial. We'll note that this is a 8040 zoning district on a 1.5 acre lot. Applicant is requesting a front yard setback of 25 ft or 50 ft is required and also an accessory structure in front of a primary structure. And we'll note that the difference between the primary and the proposed accessory structure is just given the size of the lot that is in a 40 zone district. It is not substantial. The board is asked to explain how the proposed area variances will not have adverse effects on the physical or enviral conditions in the neighborhood or district. This is just a construction of a garage. Um there won't be any um adverse effects to noise or runoff. odor in this particular neighborhood. And then lastly, the board is asked to explain whether the difficulty is self-created, noting that the consideration is relevant. It shall not necessarily include the granting of the area variances. spot on the property.

Thank you. If there's no further deliberation, we'll consider the balance between a benefit to the applicant is weighed against any judgment to the community at large or the neighborhood in particular and whether to determine to grant the requested variances. I'll make a motion that we approve the two requested area. Thank you, Patricia. All in favor? The area variances have been granted, so kindly continue the work that you're doing with our hardworking building. Thank you very much. Have a good night. Have a lovely Thanksgiving.

Thank you. All right. Wait again. Sure. Sure.

Yeah. Okay. Well, note that the agenda um is subject to change, which we're going to do right now. And we're gonna [clears throat] jump to the um new business submitted by Kyle Smith at one one pardon me 1691 New York 7 Troy New York. Would you like to come forward and just give us an overview of your project please? Sure.

Thanks. Um so I am attempting to complete construction that was previously started um at 1691 route 7. Uh there's foundation in place. Um but it is the lot size is too small for a building. The foundation is too small because the lot size is the right size and it's a corner lot. So both of the front setbacks are too close to the building. I did make that

don't hold me to exact. Sure. Thank you, my brother. Um, just could you want me to describe kind of what the building purpose would be, please?

Yeah. Um, just an office space for a um um construction manager who lives locally um who's a friend of mine. He's just working on his basement to have a an office space that's not in his home and um seems like the situation might work out well for both of us. So you're currently the applicant. He's currently the owner. Is that right?

Yeah. Can we go over together and review on the third page of the application packet um kind of the value chart? So what is required and what's being proposed? Yeah. Thanks. Okay. So um I'll I'll let you go and then if I have any questions I'll jump in.

Okay. So for minimum lot size where you want to go right the requirement is 40,000 square ft then I'm proposing 21,345 ft. So that would be an 18,655t relief. Okay. So I'm going to ask you to see because I don't see that written down. Am I missing those numbers?

Oh in the front. Okay. The building department. Okay. So because we have this color. And just to confirm with you, what is being proposed is 21,346

345 345 sorry Okay. And so then the front setback um what is required is 75 ft and what's being proposed is 14. The front set back because it's a corner lot there's two front setbacks. for the front set back to the Route 7 side. Uh so 75 ft is required and 14.6 ft. Okay.

And then deep would be the 25. Um yes. And then we kind of there's one more building. Yeah. should be 27.4 for the deep kill site. Okay. Well, there's um if you look on the map, I think the um the building itself is 27.4, but there's a lane two off the side. It'll be 25. So, I don't know.

It's not parallel to deep kill. Basically, you know, it's on a skew. You know, I went I think on my application I went with the um I went with the lead because it's closer so it's a bigger ask, right? Um you know, but um the building technically as Okay. Might be prudent, Kyle, to explain to them the situation with this property. You know, a little bit of history might be helpful if they're not familiar with it.

Okay. Yeah, sure. Um this property was uh this has been a this was a business in town for a long time. Uh the building was struck by a car. Uh the building had to be torn down but previous owner um had to be torn down and he was approved to build a building here. Uh he got sick. He couldn't finish the building and which gone past the stat limitations. So I purchased it um with the foundations done but the building unbuilt. So the foundation's already there, you know. So I'm um you know the location and things are kind of kind of stuck. So his variance expired basically.

Okay. Right. Um after the individual got killed. Mhm. He couldn't complete the structure. So you know we we at our level could not approve moving forward. So this is why he's back in front of you with the foundation that's basically already built. pre-existing. So you're he's he's asking for the same variances that we had approved before. Correct. Correct. And I believe 2021. 2021. I have the meeting. Oh, great.

Have a know, right? Do we do we have one?

Yeah, they said they don't have them. building. So the previous owner was different still office space. Yeah, I mean that's what he did for

reality. Just remember,

right? [cough] Are there any other questions?

I have a question. Sure. The um [clears throat] the concrete slab that's not going to increase the size of N. [clears throat] Any other questions? And um are you sharing the map or would you like a copy? Okay. So, this application appears complete for the purpose of holding a public hearing which will do at our next meeting in December, December 15th.

Um, as one, I hate to do it. I have time for Christmas party at 6 p.m. on December 15th. Okay. And I hate to push January, but I think I'm Okay.

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Right. Right. January 19th. I don't I don't want to put you guys out, you know. Right. Right. Right. So, January 19th would be our next meeting after our December meeting. Yeah. Um so sure you know at 6 o' um and then where's your party? It's not going down.

I don't know who it would be. I thought of that, too. We got we got a seven week old at home and um it's a family company. So my family's going to be there. So I I don't think I don't know exact. So you're you want you want to come here in December? That would be great. Okay. So we'll see you in December at six o'clock. December 15th. Appreciate that. You're very welcome. Take care.

Google. Yes. 6:15. Okay.

Okay. Thank you. Just walked in. Okay. Okay. So, next we have 103 CER Lane public hearing on area variance here. Hi, thank you. Can Kelly come up and give us an overview of your project? Have there been any changes since we last met in November?

No changes. Uh building is 180 larger than the town total house. Uh it's about 5.7 in. They're 5' 7 in too long. The structure was built.

Thanks. will open public hearing. Thank you.

So we'll open the public hearing on this application. We'll note that the notice was published in the Troy record placed on town sign board on the town website and mailed to all owners of Jason property within 300 ft. Notice of public hearing. Notice is hereby given that a public hearing will be held by the zoning board of appeals at the town of Brunswick at 6:45 p.m. on Monday, November 17, 2025. The Brunswick Town Mall, 336 Town Road, Brunswick, New York 12180. concerning the application submitted by Eugene Boom Tower for an area variance in connection with the installation of a garage on property located at 103 Crater Lane. The application requests an area variance for size of an accessory structure. Copies of the application are available at Brunswick Town Hall and are available for public inspection during regular business hours. All interested persons will be heard at the public hearing.

Thank you very much. If anyone would like to speak for against the application, you're welcome to do so. Are there any questions for any design board members?

Hearing you of public comment, I [cough and clears throat] make a motion to close the public hearing portion of this application with a second. Thank you, Patricia. All in favor? I

the public hearing is closed. The zoning board members are prepared to deliberate and act on the application and note that this is a type two action under state environmental quality review act and no further secret determination is required. On board members will re review the standard elements required for the consideration of the zoning variance. We're asked to explain how and no undesirable change will be produced in the character of the neighborhood nor detriment to nearby properties created by granting the area variance. Start by saying that the proposed garage is located deep on this property. The applicant intends to finish the exterior of the garage to match the aesthetics of the primary house. Other residents in this lovely Creger Lane neighborhood also have accessory structures to store their um outdoor equipment. And number two, we're asked to explain why the benefits sought by the applicant cannot be achieved by some method feasible for the applicant to pursue other than the area. And we'll note that this building has already been built. And the board is asked to describe whether the requested area variance is substantial. We'll note that is an R40 zoning district on 7.2 acres. What is proposed is a 16 1,680 square foot building. What is required by the town code is 1,500 square foot. The applicant is seeking relief of 160 square feet.

It is definitely not substantial. 60 square feet. The board is asked to explain how the proposed area variance will not have an adverse effect on the physical or environmental conditions in the neighborhood or district. And when you consider such factors as traffic, drainage, dust, noise, odor, there is no um serious and potential impact on environmental conditions. And then lastly, board is asked explain whether the difficulty is self-created. will note their consideration is relevant which shall not necessarily preclude the granting of the area. [clears throat] Well, sure it is very selfreated. [clears throat] There's no further deliberation. Consider the balance between the benefit to the applicant is weighed against any detriment to the community at large or the neighborhood in particular determined to grant the requested area variance.

I'll second. Thank you, Darl. Thank you, John. All in favor? So, your variance has been granted and we continue the work that you're doing with our burden overburden department. Thank you. Have a good night. Good night. Thank you. Thank you. Nice Thanksgiving. You too. Thank you.

Good night. Good night. now.

Okay, let's start with um continue with the new business. Beginning with AJ Sign Company for the Marine Muse LLC. This is the installation of a 34 square foot freestanding pylon sign that will have space for two tenant panels the two on the property. Hi, how are you?

Tommy for coming tonight. So I as I understand correctly by the way that you submitted your applications um you want each sign to have its own application and and dealt with individually. Correct. This is one single assignment. Okay. Yep. It's a two sign. So here we're not allowed to do a two sign. So we're asking for a variance for two sign that part of the property will be two buildings. So rather than have two individual sides, you want to just do that one.

Um, so I can so and this is you've submitted this as the wrong 107. Yeah. So, we have three sign new sign applications tonight. So, we're all on the same page. Um that is for [clears throat] the 34 square foot standing.

Um yeah. So, the application number if we can look at that too. So 2B 2025-0298 that's Yeah. So just um I thought it was interesting the other examples that you um included. I thought they did pick some really good to show what a a two tenant confusing sign looks like.

Yeah, it's definitely cleaner to have just one side on the property. So, this is strictly for a two tent sign. It meets all the other sign requirements for um square footage.

Correct. Do you have any part of this application that shows where the sign will be located? or it wasn't submitted with this

um that wasn't submitted with this application, right? Okay. Could could we put it together if that would be okay if we had that map? No, if we had a small version of that. Is this it right here?

So, it's going to be two-sided. Yes, doublesided. So it would still be under 300 square foot if you combine the two applications. Is that what you were Is that what you're talking about? Yeah.

Yeah. They'd be under 300 foot on the opposite side would be quick check. So essentially when you come in the entrance, you got quick check on the on the left and this sign would be on the right. Both 15 ft off the rightway as required. I just I guess I'm just confused because quick check has their own sign. There's actually [clears throat] for that side quick check is a separate owner separate application.

So this this application is for just Chipoti in the mattress store. So that that two tenant sign would basically be Chipoti and in the mattress store. Okay. So on one of the other applications, they included the square footage for that store, just the panel that's going to be mounted on that monument sign.

So, but they didn't do that on the other application. So like one application I don't know I think it was the mattress store they in their separate sign package they included the panel yes on the pylon sign in the other application for Chipotle they did not include the square footage correct well the pylon sign's not it's not an approved sign so It really it really shouldn't be applying for something not even approved. You know what I mean? It's like chicken and the egg basically.

We have to approve to multi-sign. Yeah. First. Oh, so one application assumed it was going to get approved and then the other one didn't. Exactly. All right. I was putting that in the letter. It's confusing to me. Sorry. Okay. So, this is not in the first line. You're not supposed to have it at all. No, you have to have four tenants to have a multi-pilot multi-tenant sign. I saw that in your letter.

This is So this application is basically asking for you know a variance from a four tenant sign to a two tenant sign.

No and one establishment sit on top of the other. Yep. Are you considering Chipotle to be a primary? Is that why it's on top or does it matter? It's just a word. [clears throat]

How would the sign be lit? Yes, it's And what are the hours that it'll be lit? Uh, that I don't know. You know, you know the hours of the store start. Okay. [clears throat] It's something we normally ask anyway.

And then whether or not it's going to be lit after the hours of the store. Let me find out what is And that first 24 in off the ground, that'll be a solid base.

Oh, yeah. It's a solid base. Would you say it again? How did you describe that? A solid.

It's aluminum. So with the post [clears throat] there any other questions? anyone wondering what other what other signs are these businesses going to have on is that in regards to um on the building themselves you want this side but what other signs So, I guess that would be something to consider after um you know whether or not this sign is approved in regards to the the additional signs that they request. Keep that in mind.

Well, both the mattress store and Chipotle are asking for a front mounted sign and a side mounted sign. Both. Right now, they only have Chipotle. their group their blueprint for right now. They're the only ones that we have. There's no mattress for signs. We have an application. Oh, that was that.

We do have for both. Yeah. So I have a question for Andrew and the if we approve it as a two board sign and for some reason the mattress store goes out of business and they want to split that building up into two other store. uh did they have to come back in front of us again to change it to a free business be subject to however you reviewed and acted on the application. If the condition was for two tenants only then we come back for further review. If the size didn't change, that'd be a consideration of the board if they wanted to add square footage to the signage for like the potential third tenant. That's you wouldn't know what the sign would be. So when they're reviewing this as the application in front of you for two tenants, you could choose to conditional to simply the two right now space. So, this application appears to be complete for the purpose of holding a public hearing, which we'll do at a December meeting, December 15th. Indeed, this will be at 6.

Yes, that application is just for the just for the two um the two tenant sign. We have to have separate public hearing. And so there's additional applications which you'll deal with. Okay. Okay. So those would be considered new business. We have to treat them. Are you looking to hold all public hearings on the same or right? Yes. Yes.

Okay. So right now you just reviewed the pylon sign for the two tenants and gain that complete for public hearing. Wouldn't the order be better for the individual business signs before we address the pylon sign? You need approval for the I don't know. They need approval for the two tenant sign first before they can put their individual signs on.

I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking about I mean maybe we don't want to approve the pylon sign because they want all these signs on their building and we think that's enough. So, but if we approve the pylon sign first then I don't know what's more important to them.

So, just understand each each um applicant i.e. the Chipulti and the mattress store are entitled to their own pylon sign. They're requesting not to have individual pylon signs. They're asking to have a single monument sign so you don't have conflicting pylon signs next to each other. That that's that's what they're requesting. So they're they're entitled to their own pylon sign as as an allowable sign in our code. What they're requesting is to to mount them on one single monument sign, which is not [clears throat] allowed. You need to have four, right? for asking for less.

I think I think what Patricia is trying to say is we don't always have to approve a sign at all. Right. So, we usually take into consideration the building mounted signs and and the other signs on the property with a pylon sign or a monument sign. No, I I understand that. But if we didn't get two tenant, we'd probably go for two individual signs. So, we have twice as many. You understand that there they could have a pylon sign in front of each store, right? Yes, I understand that. But that doesn't mean that we would approve. No, no. Right. Right. I just want to make sure you understand. They can ask for anything that they want. It's just what are we going to what will we end up approving? Gotcha.

And I by approving this, we get less and maybe Well, we don't know if you're going to get less. you're going to get what you asked for or if [clears throat] we're going to cut back what you're asking for. We don't know that until we review all the applications. That's where I am. It's kind of like peace meal because we haven't looked at the other applications yet. So, but I mean, if everybody's comfortable with that, then I would go with flow.

Yeah. And to your point, historically the board has reviewed sign applications that have encompassed all the signs on the property, right? We haven't really broken it down with pylon sign, wall signs,

store signs. We've looked at all as a package. So this is different from the way that we have done in the past. Um, but if I understand correctly, this is the way that the building department has presented this information to the board. Um, and that that's how we should proceed. I'm fine with that. I mean, I understand that it will be less confusing to have one sign, but like Ann said, we always look at the whole sign package

together and this case is not what we were doing. So I'll remind the board that once you hold a public hearing on in this case sign variance applications and the public hearings closed, you do have up to 62 days in which to render a determination which would allow the board to hold the public hearings and before acting on any individual deliberate and I think you'll reach potentially the same end of considering all the sign for the this particular commercial site kind of collectively even though separate public hearings have been held because you're going to be within that period of deliberation of each one of those applications. Public hearings themselves may be separate, but if you hold them on one meeting and presumably close them, you will have time in which to deliver all

So, thank you. So, we'll see you then in December. It's you, too. Yes. Yeah, we'll get there, too.

You schedule that one for what time? Uh, 6:30. Yeah, we have 6 615 630.

Oh, 6 615 630. Okay. All right. So, we're going to move on to your second application. That number is 2B 2025-0299. The company AJ signs property owner use LLC. same address 735 road. Now we're going to talk about a sign package. So if you just want to review that with us, please. So basically this is a Chipotle. What we're asking for is a sign on the front of the building facing music sign east side of the road of the building. So you'll see coming down and we have some directional signage as well. um for the drive-thru and the uh pickup. There's little little small directional signs and that's that's really it. And then the panel on my side So just for clarification [clears throat] for for sign E that's that's how the total square footage kicks in for it's under the brief description of proposed action. It's on it's on page the short ESS one. So under E, the tenant panel in the plaza. So that's how the square footage ties into the I'll call it the monument sign, you know, a multi-tenant sign. So it if we had a a small mall that had four tenants,

right? Right. Each tenant would have a panel on a monument sign. So they would come in, the tenants would come into us individually with signs for to close, which then the wall owner generally would come in for the core tenant sign. So that's why we broke out the two panel sign because it's generally the owner of the of the mall would be installing the monument sign and then the individual people that are running the space would come in for individual signs. That's why we broke it out separately.

Okay. Right. That doesn't Yeah.

So if you can kind of walk us through that a little bit. So um number of signs square footage. So yeah, that's so sign A1. Um really that's an error. That sign is a front-facing sign that's allowable by our code that that doesn't that doesn't need a variance. Okay. So A1 is not

and it's very confusing for even for these folks to even understand our code. I mean we have trouble sometimes understanding our code. It's very complicated the sign code. Then A2 which is a sign to be mounted on the east face which is not the front of the building is not not allowed by the code because all all signs are supposed to be mounted on the front of of the building. So that's why they're here for that for A2. And then for basically for C and D, which they call basically directional signs, um we don't allow directional signs that one that have logos and two that are lit up. They're not basically an exit sign or an entrance sign that's, you know, that we allow two square feet for without any variance. These are these are different. These are, you know, signs that are lit with a foundation and a logo on them. So that's why they're asking for um variance on on C and D. And then E, the tenant panel sign. We I can't approve it because they don't have an approved monument. So that's why they're asking for the tenant panel sign because they're mounting on on on a on a tenant sign. It's not even approved.

So if the pylon if the if we approve the pylon sign, then they this they don't even need this for E, right? Correct. So then they're only really variances for three. Correct. A 2 C and D.

Correct. So more clarification on C and D. So they're seeking varants because they need them. Um I Yes. And but they're at the they're still within the size allowance. Is that right? Correct. They're in with the total allowance for for area of sign. Yes.

Okay. So they move their I mean, if you kindly walk through the location of the C and D signs that you're proposing, please. I believe there's a site plan that um the green dots It's on the site plan. You can use mine if you wish.

Basically, just to get you to the drive um on the back corner of the building, CD should come in. Uh the east side of the building is where we want that that second wall sign. You can see it coming. Then you go around the back of the building. drive through on the west side which is uh up against the back in the back two direction behind that's where C and D are

these in the front which I guess we don't no

this is C and D. That's a clearance bar. Okay. So, which way do they come in to do the pickup first? They'll come in. The key is on the front corner there. Yes. And then you go to the back and you have the digital pickup. Okay. Um then around through the drive on the left side of the

building. Is it?

There's no pickup there. No, there's no pickup. It's a pickup only computer. Got it. Right. Do it on their app. Yep. Any other questions? Okay, we think we got it. Thank you very much. Right. December. I think I still remain. So, so this what you just review for Chipotle typical science package that dozen variances. Is is that going to be complete and subject to public hearing? Yes.

Yes. Yes. Right. I I can speak up. I see that this application is complete for the purpose of holding a public hearing at the December meeting. Did anybody need any additional information from the applic? Uh 6:45. [laughter] All right. I'm sorry. That's okay. And then at least I have in front of me the third one. Is that correct? Yes. We have one more to go. Okay. So, this is anchor sign in. Same address. Anchor or active? Anchor.

Anchor. Um for mattress form wall sign. Okay. So, one moment. We're just going to get our papers in order tonight now. Thank you. December.

Probably the same. We haven't seen you, Mr. Anchor. Where are you from? Well, I live in Philadelphia, South Carolina.

Oh, well, welcome to Detroit, New York. Brunswick. Mailing address. All right. So, are you Who are you?

I'm Brian. Brian. All right. Ryan, welcome. Ryan, could you kind of give us an overview of what you'd like to do there at 735 music? Well, Metro is looking to add a second sign on the west side of the building so you can have a better view of this door. Very similar to what they're looking for. And this will be lit.

And what are the metro firm? I could tell you sometimes they close at 8, sometimes they close at 9. Um 99% of those stores have a time clock on turn off the sign. So they will be turned off though. Like 30 minutes and 45 minutes after the store closes. But I I can't speak to automat. I can tell you I was very unaware that they were looking at a multi.

Were you looking to do your own? I had no idea about any panels or pull signs or monuments or anything. Just doing the wall found out that I'm assuming that's a landlord. It is the owner's applied for that.

So, Mr. Ryan's asking for relief of uh a wall sign that's not in the front. That's on the side. Correct. And it meets all of the other um the size and area. Yep.

These two tenants are very close together. So that's why they're asking for signs on opposite sides. Gold's asking it on one side. These guys are asking for the opposite side. They're very close together. Two

structures. There any questions? Otherwise, I would say that the application is complete with the purpose of public hearing which will be in December. That's December 15th, 2025. 7 o'clock.

Okay. Thank you. Good night. Thanks for traveling here. Are there any other items that the board should entertain this time? Make a motion to close this meeting.

And one second explain that one. The quick check, right? Um I think they're on the agenda for next uh That's right. So for next month in December 375 7:15.

Thank you.

Your last a good one in [clears throat]

Yes. Smith at six [clears throat] for Google 210 right 6:30 [clears throat] what I have we doing confused [laughter]

Are you here for the Mesca app extension? Yes. Yes. We thought it was seven. Sorry. Oh, sorry for the Right. Right. Right. Sorry for the mix. You had to add six. Yeah. We didn't know if you got caught in traffic. Um, no. Okay. All righty. So, you're on for next month in December at 6:15. What day is it? Monday. It is a Monday, right? It's a the third Monday in December. Good. All right. Yeah. See you then. All right. Thank you. Thank you. I made a motion to close tonight. Another second.