Town Council - public_hearing

Sorry. Hey, it's September 8th. This is going to be the public hearing for the 2027 budget.

We'll open it with questions or comments. And I have papers here to show you.

Questions or comments about the budget that's been advertised? You're not spending more money than you have, are you? No. Okay. That's good to know. I will make a motion we close the open public meeting. Second. Motion by me, second by Jared. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. So it is now 716. We will open a regular meeting for the Carroll County, Carroll County, Burlington Town Hall. First, it's called an order that was present. It was just myself and Jared Goltz. First will be approval of minutes.

Make a motion to approve the minutes.

I have a motion by Jared to approve the minutes. I will second that. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries. Next will be payment of claims. Make a motion to approve the payment of claims. I have a motion by Jared to pay claims. I will second that motion. All in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carried. For the public out there, we do have, and we see these before the meetings. Oh, yeah. So it's not like we're doing it blind.

I've been home infected before. I seen this last week. And then Thursday, that same week, they had that open meeting for them. People. Steve, what do you got for us?

I got that quote from the Department of Tree Service for $1,300. That's driving this film to New Orleans. So do we need to make a motion on that or just? Yeah, I think we should call Jared. Jared?

Just in case you need to talk to me.

Jared.

Sorry.

Justin. Yes. Yes.

Okay, so what it is, we have a request across from the daycare at Somebody who can't afford to take down some trees that are falling. So they're worried the kids are going to get hit from falling debris. So the town is just going to take care of it and grind the stumps down so there's no questions asked and safety for the kids. I will make a motion that the town pay to have those trees and grind the stumps down. Second. I make a motion. Second. All those in favor say aye. So is this a safety factor? Well, it's not on the church's property. No, it's on the city. Kind of, sort of. It's one of those questionable, but the property owner has it. Can't afford to do this.

So it's more...

i want to get it together so yeah okay and the next will be town marshall reports make a motion for the town marshall report all in favor say aye aye aye motion carries You're not here for anybody, Jamie. All right. Okay. New business. New business will go into August 2026 payroll allowance document. Make a motion to accept the allowance document. Second. I make a motion to hear the second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries.

Okay, miscellaneous business.

Just this is where you may have to come in. We have a couple properties. One is the house fire that's not been cleaned up and starting to fall and cause problems. And then the brick building uptown is starting to cause some problems. So we're going to need some guidance on how to handle both of those. The one for sure is the house fire. The other one we have to look at. When I drove by it just last week, it almost looked like there were some bricks that were starting to fall around the garage door area. Which one? The blue block. Oh, it's stretched down. I wanted you to tear it down. Did you hear that?

the blue brick jersey is structurally unsafe as well so he won't tear it down you just you'll have to build a store wall between the library and there to be able to because it's so far gone and structurally unsafe that when you go to chew into the side of it with an excavator or even to try to go in and get the roof system off of there it's just gonna it's gonna explode It's going too many different directions.

Getting to county could be hard. And here's where we might rely on Jill. Jill in Burlington, or in Camden, basically wrote letters, told them they had so many days to get it taken care of. They didn't, and then she cited them, and then took it to court, and then the judge gave them so much time, and if they didn't make any progress, then the judge started to fine them. So, but I don't know all the steps for sure, but I know Jill would know.

So you have the unsafe building ordinance. I'm just not sure what the process is.

Right. And we have that ordinance as well, but you may have to look at it and figure out how we can do that as well.

That's possible. We don't. Nope. Not that I'm aware of. It's about $1,600.

It's not that I'm aware of, but I don't know. I've never had to go that route. Top of my head. So the other question is, Dennis came up with the properties that we're dealing with, with the junk, we're wondering if that is really too, probably is that the money too?

The whole time the search is both of those properties to make sure we get every possible person notified.

Right. I'm sorry for the two that we've been trying to get to. Yes. No, I agree. And to see, like, if there's any judgment people or if there's any hidden mortgages, et cetera, anything that's not obvious, you know, from what we can tell, just being here. So I think that'd be one step in finding something to declare unsafe would be the first two steps. So how do we do it?

Like, what time is it?

Yes.

So we need to hire a title company. Right.

Right. No, it's not really expensive.

No, it's not really expensive.

Is there an example, wording example for this type of letter?

Because it's not the nuisance letter. This is something totally different.

Yeah. We have to do something about it.

Not just a habit.

We have to do something about it.

Ignorance.

Okay. Yeah.

I'd say step one would be once again,

I might call them tomorrow.

Just see what they say. So. Okay. Okay, that's it. Let me pipe them up.

Yep, we'll get a whole area plan tomorrow. A couple other people to pronounce, see if they have any suggestions on who could sell them. Well, the partial house fire started to collapse and stuff, and parts of it again.

There's been animals in it.

Yeah. So, and then the brick, I have not been in the brick one, but you've been in the brick one.

Yeah, I have a quote from two years ago, and I quoted it to them. It was right at, with dumping fees and all that, close to about $24,000. Ouch. If you Google Earth, you can see the brick, it's put up a shore wall that controlled anything that could happen. And then plus the disposal fee, diesel prices, everything else.

You might as well have 15% of that.

I don't know.

Now I just wanted to tear down six billion small kids. Where was that? Okay.

Well, I guess it's not a day where we need to start. So I will make phone calls tomorrow, hopefully, and see if we can figure out who or if anybody will come over and say, yes, it's a condemned or we won't condemn it, but at least it's unsafe.

So if we can get that and you suggest we just go ahead and get the title, so we can get somebody to say yes or unsafe. Justin.

That's fine.

So I will see if we can find out if anybody will make it or declare it unsafe, both those buildings. get the title going. Okay. That gives us an idea of what we need to do. Okay. I appreciate it. Thank you. Any other miscellaneous business that we need to talk about?

The only other thing is just that I talked to them last month about ordinance codification, so I have this just giving information. I have this for sure.

I thought I'd copy and move that.

There is something we're going to have to do. I talked about last month at this table, but I thought I'd at least copy this so you can do that.

Okay. Do you have an idea of a price?

Yeah, that quote, because the one that we've gotten was over $10,000. And this one, I just have it in front of me. It was $14.95. And this would just be booklet form. There would not be anything online. But we could get, they do like a Indiana Basic Code, and then we get up to 30 pages added for our own ordinances. And then each additional page would be $24. So, My estimate is, I don't know if this is right or not, but I just pulled a figure of 3,000, but I don't know for sure. And then if they have any changes, you can do a thing where like 250 per year just to keep things updated. So I gave this to you guys a while back, but

You're gonna explain any business. You're close to me. Make a motion. We'll close this meeting. Second. All those in favor say aye.

Aye. Aye.