Community Redevelopment Agency - Regular Meeting

Wednesday, September 3, 2025
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Government Body
Community Redevelopment Agency
Meeting Type
Community Redevelopment Agency
Location
Hollywood, FL
Meeting Date
September 3, 2025

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642 sections (from 716 segments)

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Good thing. Yeah. We're all good.

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As soon as we see that on air light turn on, there we go. Top of the morning, everybody. Welcome to City Hall here in the city of Hollywood. Today is 09/03/2025. Please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance.

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Thank you. Roll call, please.

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Board Member Schuhann.

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Here. Board Member Hernandez.

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Board Member Kalari. Here. Vice Chair Contenor. Here. Board member Biedemann?

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Board member Gruber?

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Chair Levy?

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Here. All right. Any conflict disclosures today? Hearing none, let's go on to 9AM citizens' comments. Bob Glickman followed by Richard Trepazian.

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So Bob, is it Robert full name or has it always been Bob?

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It's Robert, but

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right.

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I've been called a Get

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to know you

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a little better

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I've been called a lot of other things as well.

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Roberto. Robbie. Yeah.

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Hey, good morning.

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Robbie.

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Good morning. Bob Glickman, Hollywood Beach. Okay, so we're here to talk about myself and Rich Capaci, and we're here to talk about mid block crosswalks. We've been trying to get people from FDOT to come down to the beach to do an on-site visit along A1A, which they finally were able to do. And once they did that, they kind of sort of agreed, as long as the moon and the sun and the planets all align, that we can get mid block crosswalks.

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And this is what we're looking for. It was thanks to Chris O'Brien, who was able to set the meetings up for us and to get them and CRA staff and city staff down there so we can discuss it. So now that we know that they will consider mid block crosswalks and where there's no island, they said, if we can put an island in,

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they would also put in a

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mid block crosswalks with the RFPs on both sides of the street and one in the middle. So what we're here today is we actually want to ask to put the Carolina Street traffic light on pause so we can look at this and go forward. The traffic light at Carolina was approved under different circumstances. At the time, you were told that mid block crosswalks were not an option, but now they are. So we're asking you to reconsider what you've done in the past.

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There's no harm in doing this. Just because this has been going on for a long time doesn't mean that we can't delay when circumstances have changed and get things right. I just want to also point out that for Rich or myself, we're not asking for ourselves for mid block crossroads. We're asking for the residents in the area. Okay? This is something that we've been fighting for, for our neighborhood. This is what we're doing. It doesn't affect us personally, but it affects Central Beach dramatically. So we're requesting your help in that. I don't know of any Central Beach residents really that want any intersection traffic lights.

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And when you talk about an intersection traffic light, you're talking about a four way intersection, which we don't have along the beach. Our biggest concern is the impact on traffic, especially when the bridge is so close, Sheridan Street. There has been no consideration taken into account on the impact residents affected. The required F dot intersection control evaluation study was not done. And there was also no bridge study done. These are massive arms. And they're eyesores when we are trying to beautify the area. So we would like to remove those. RFP crosswalks are also known to slow traffic. Most importantly, nobody is crossing at this location, the location at Carolina Street.

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A lot across the street from the Marriott is used only once a year on the July 4. The vacant lot north has no plans to be developed in the near future. New proposed Skipper's Dockside Marina entrance is two and a half blocks south of where the proposed traffic light is at Carolina Street. Again, we would not do something that is wrong just because it was previously approved, especially when things have changed. Again, we request two things the postponement of the Carolina Street. I'd like to see if mid block crosswalks are more viable. And two, to be involved throughout the design process, including meetings with DOT. As concerned residents, we're willing to invest our own time and meet with these people.

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you. Thank you. All right, Rich. What do they call a baseball hitter that's like the last one? The cleanup guy?

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Well, hopefully. And before you start my time, I'd just like to thank everybody. This has been going on a long time. Welcome back. And Okay, so I guess you could start my time. So the biggest thing we're asking for today, because I think everybody wants mid block crosswalks, is we want to be part of the whole process, meeting with DOT. It's just funny that all of a sudden, when we met with them after years and years, now they're willing to do them. The second thing is the postponement of the Caroline Streetlight. We're not saying don't do it. Postpone it.

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Let's see what we are allowed to do, what makes the best option. There will be a lot of excuses why we need to continue with this, and they're just plain wrong. One will be, well, it's already approved, contracted for, and we've already bought parts. Well, the parts can be used throughout the city. It's not unheard of. Happens every municipality. The contractor is not going to complain if you tell them, you're going to make the same amount of money, but you could do mid block crosswalks. Burkhart has done a lot of work for the city. They're not going to complain about it. We hear that the intersection lights are safer.

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That's not true. People can make a right turn on red and run over pedestrian. They cannot do that in mid block crosswalk. So mid block crosswalk, these RFPs are safer. They say that, well, people don't know how to cross and cars don't know to stop. They've been around long enough. Think everybody up here knows when you stop when you see these things. And pedestrians know as well. Wait for all the vehicles to stop before crossing. So again, there's just a lot of excuses.

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Mid block crosswalks are known to also suppress traffic speeds, which are very, very important. And providing more islands will do that as well. They say the developer paid for half, which is true. But the new development, again, Bob said, is two and a half blocks south. It makes no sense to put it there. Every municipality usually has developers pay for infrastructure anyhow. Hopefully, that's part of their approval process. So if they have to put mid block prospects instead of a traffic light or both, they should be paying for this in that area, not the city. There's an argument that residents vote on this. That's kind of true, but what was presented to them was not mid block RRFB crosswalks.

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It was pretty much intercession traffic lights or nothing. So again, circumstances have changed. I'm sure if you brought it back to residents, because everybody said they don't want these lights at intersections. And it's crazy to pay for something when they're two to three times more when you do multiple mid block crosswalks. Another argument will be, it controls the flow of traffic there. Well, that's true. But why do you want to stop cars there? You want them at the bridge ready to go over when there's an opening. Why stop them there and then have them stuck at the bridge? It also controls the openings of cars coming out.

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Stopping traffic allows cars coming out of the side street. That's true. But on the other end, now it's stacking and blocking cars. You could have stacking blocking cars at Nevada Street Garage. Bad idea. Again, we're requesting two things. The postponement, not cancellation, postponement of Carolina Street until we have a full design, a DOT's approval, and being part of the process.

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Thank you, Richard.

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I'd just like to add one other thing. I'm fully qualified. I graduated civil engineering, went to Northeast in Wentworth, did projects that make this look like a Sand Castle. So I won't be a hindrance. If anything, they can use my experience.

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Thank you, Richard.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. All right. I know, just for the benefit of the CRA board, the city, CRA director will be having Rick Meitinger, perhaps will mention during his comments just some perspective on this back and forth subject. Is that correct, George?

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Yes, item 13 under my comments at the end. He'll present some status and information on that. Can I

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just give one more thing? Sure, Rich.

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Because I didn't know that they were going to talk MACHT: about that, I'm going to try to stay as long as I can. I have a daughter who's homesick. So I don't want to leave her too long if she wakes up.

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So I leave, I apologize. But hopefully, you'll take it into our requests.

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Thank you.

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Board Member Hernandez.

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Thank you, Mayor. I had a question for Bob or Richard, either one. Was this discussed with you guys prior to the Carolina coming up and the mid block crossing? Because I remember having conversations, not necessarily in there, but where Publix was done. And the DOT says, let's compile some more data before we're

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able SPEAKER We've had, like, years of discussion on the CRA board about this exact issue. Back and forth, delay, etcetera, f dot meetings, f dot presentations.

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There's a lot

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of history here.

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There was four years of

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I just wanted to know where where we were at regarding that. I think that they probably live in a beach, if you guys are okay with something.

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Rich, let's let's wait until city manager presents. And I know Rick Meitinger, the city's F dot liaison. I think manager is gonna bring him in, the director. And so we're gonna hear more about it. We're gonna talk about it. I just have to move on from the agenda. We're happy to call you back if the board members would like. All right. Consent agenda today includes items five through seven. These are minute approvals. Any requests from the dais or otherwise a motion to approve the consent agenda?

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Second. We have

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a motion from Board member Biederman to approve the consent agenda items five through seven. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, those items carry unanimously.

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Onto the regular agenda with item number eight is a resolution of the CRA approving and authorizing the CRA to execute a phase two construction services agreement with Lawrence Contracting to provide construction management risk services through a continuing services agreement for the Hollywood Boulevard security bollards project in an amount up to $399,000 and change, authorizing the expenditure for permit fees in an estimated amount up to $20,000 and authorizing the CRA executive director to execute all applicable agreements and documents to implement the Bollards project on Hollywood Boulevard.

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Motion to approve.

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Hold on. We've got presentation here.

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Do we need it? Okay.

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I have the pleasure of the board. Alright. Let's run through it.

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Good morning, chair, vice chair, and board members. Francisco Diaz, senior project manager with the Hollywood CRA. So just to go quickly through the background, the Hollywood Boulevard streetscape included 178 bowlers lining the sidewalk behind the non parallel parking spaces. Based on the recommendations of the police department, we evaluated the existing conditions of the newly completed streetscape and are recommending to add additional boilers to enhance security. And on the July 2 board meeting, the board approved the owner purchase of 99 boilers.

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And today we have the phase two construction agreement with Lauren Contracting for the installation of the boilers. And this is just the project boundaries. It's Hollywood Boulevard between 21st Avenue and Young Circle. Quit artistic rendering showing the boilers installed at 21st Avenue and looking east. This is just a quick material cost breakdown based on what was approved at the July 2 meeting.

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We were able to go through some design elements with one of the manufacturers and we were able to bring some of the unit pricing down, saving the city approximately $4,000 This is just a quick scope of work that includes some demolition of the affected areas where the bullas will be installed, forming and pouring concrete for the new foundation, installing the boilers and restoring the sidewalks back to original conditions. This is a quick breakdown of the GMP that Lawrence prepared for the installation with a total cost of $399,000 This is just a quick table showing the totals per unit per boiler. It comes up with the updated quotes and Lawrence unit pricing to about $6,000 for each of the Verrier one bowlers and $3,000 for the landscape forms. This is just a quick breakdown showing the total project costs, including the material owner purchase, the phase one preconstruction and the phase two construction agreement for a total estimated cost of 5 and $73,000 Lawrence is here today. She is planning on dividing the project in four phases.

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Pretty much it will be from twenty first to the main block phase one, the main block to the west side of twentieth Phase 2, the East Side Of 20th all the way to just West of nineteenth will be phase three, And the four corners of nineteenth, plus all the additional bowlers bringing all the way to Young Circle, will be phase four. They can start work in early November, but it's obviously based on us meeting the DHBA and confirming that the schedule will work with them. And with that, the CRA executive directors recommends approval.

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Thank you. Board Member Hernandez.

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Good morning, Mayor. Thank you. I'm always concerned about the cost of the boulders going on. But since that's already been approved, I'm Okay with spending the money to install them. The one thing that I ask, and I'm glad that you brought it up regarding the business owners in the downtown, So this work can be done at the same time that the crosswalks are being done. So in order not to negatively affect them any more than what we have to we could coordinate something like that, that would be appreciated. Having said that, I make a motion to approve.

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I right. We have motion to approve from Board Member Hernandez, second from Board Member Biederman. Are there any speaker cards on item eight? All those in favor of the motion to approve item eight, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, the item carries unanimously. Thank you. All right. Item number nine, ladies and gentlemen, is the CRA's authorization to execute a funding agreement with VB Hollywood Holdings LLC in an amount up to $391,000 and change relating to the South 20th Avenue improvements.

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That's the project between Harrison Street and the north limits of the Celeste Village North project within the downtown district and amending the budget of the downtown district for fiscal year '25 to be consistent with this resolution. Francisco.

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Good morning again. Francisco Diaz, senior project manager with the Hollywood CRA. So as you all know, the CRA will be working on the Harrison Street's Triscate Project at the end of the month. This project will reconstruct Harrison Street from 21st all the way to the circle. And here we have a rendering showing this section right at 20th.

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The state's company is currently working on two residential developments just south of Harrison Street along Van Buren, known as Soles Villages north and south. Here's a picture of the construction of the two buildings. As part of the construction, they are required to redo the right of way, not just along Van Buren Street, but also along South 20th on both the east and west side as well as the roadway. It will include no picture frame concrete sidewalks, no landscape, milling, resurfacing and striping of the roadway, as well as stunt asphalt crosswalks. This is a picture showing the current conditions of the north side of the intersection.

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So that leaves a small portion between Harrison Street and the alley that will remain untouched. These are photos of the current conditions showing the existing pavers, the existing lighting. This is another view from Harrison looking south. As part of Harrison Street, we'll be replacing the two five globes and a portion of the sidewalk adjacent to the fireclothes. So as far as the funding agreement, the state's company will be removing the existing pavers, removing the two light poles, the two teardrop light poles, milling and resurfacing the roadway, and removing the existing concrete driveways along the alleys.

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As part of the improvements, they will be installing no picture frame sidewalk, no teardrop fixtures, no striping along the roadway and no picture frame concrete along the driveways of the two alleyways to adhere with the rack design guidelines. The proposal also includes utility trenching, new conduit and wiring, as well as sleeves for the new lighting, as adjusted if needed. This is an overall cost estimate that was submitted by the state's company. The items highlighted in red are the construction costs, which comes up to $248,000 They also included a 3% construction contingency, a 3% overhead and profit, which brings the cost up to $2.70 mentioned, they also included some additional electrical contingency just in case that the conduit and wiring of the existing lights are in no good conditions. So that brings the cost up to $391 but this will only be if needed.

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If they don't need to do the conduit or the wiring, then the cost will only be $270 So in conclusion, the developer submitted a cost estimate with a price not to exceed $391,000 The funding agreement will beautify a small segment between Harrison Street and the alleyway just north of Van Buren to fully complete the streetscape of South 20th Avenue, improving the connectivity between the neighborhood and the downtown core. And as such, the CRA executive director recommends approval.

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Thank you, Francisco. We may have some questions from the board. Let's go to board member Hernandez.

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Thank you, Mayor. Francisco, I got a question. I know it's not here, but is part of the drainage on 21st Avenue and Van Buren Street going to be addressed when it comes to

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this? 20th.

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DAVID 21st Avenue. This is only on 20th Avenue, but

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Go ahead to the mic, if you could.

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Good morning, members of the board. Raylan Story, assistant city manager. That is a utilities project that they're working on. And we can get an update for you on

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Okay, if you can, that would be great. Also, the name that you named this is Streetscape. But when you mentioned streetcapes, to me it infers landscaping is going to be installed. In my understanding, it's no landscaping is going to be here. This is just basically an upgrade of Hardscape. Well, whatever you may want to call it. But I'm just saying, for semantic purposes, streetscape infer that there's going to be landscaping taking place. The other question that I have is, how come we're paying for this when this actually should have been part of the enhancement from the states group?

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So Susan, if you can address that. I know that the project had shown what the responsibility of estate companies is with regards to the road in front of and the sidewalks in front of the project. This goes beyond, right?

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Yes. Can you hear me?

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No. If you can press it.

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It's on. Oh.

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There you go. He's got the picture up.

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Hello, hello.

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that one.

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Maybe you can use if you go up to the podium, that would be great.

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Is your mic out?

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Center stage.

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Susan Goldberg, Deputy Director of Hollywood CRA. And we do have here Dave Decker from the Estate Group. He's here in the audience for any direct questions. So when the Celeste Village condominium towers were approved

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Apartment buildings.

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Yeah, part of their site plan approval included that they had to do the streetscape work in front of their two buildings. So that means the sidewalks, adding trees, replacing light poles, solely in front of their project. And that's what they they've already constructed half of that on the North Tower. They're going to be getting ready to do the sidewalk in front of the South Tower as well as Van Buren. And so this to capitalize because they're going to already be out there. Can you take care of the section between Harrison Street and the alleyway so that the whole road looks finished?

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How competitive is their bid?

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I'm sorry, what?

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How competitive is their bid?

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We compared their prices to prices we had gotten a couple of years ago from Bosch as well as their unit prices are spelled out differently, so we had to use some conversions between square foot and cubic foot and cubic yards. We feel that the price is competitive. There's a large portion of what you're seeing here is a contingency. It's like 80 or $90,000. We don't have to use that contingency.

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That contingency is there because the two light poles, the pendant light poles that are towards the corner of Harrison Street, when they pull those out, if the wires and conduits are not good, they have to trench all the way to the next alleyway between Hollywood Boulevard and Harrison Street in order to get to that cabinet. So that's what that contingency is and their overhead and profit is not on top of that contingency. It's a separate item. So we only we only reimburse based upon receipts we get. So this is an up to amount.

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It's it's that big electrical portion that nobody knows until it gets uncovered. They had a situation on Tyler Street when they did their streetscape, where they ran into a condition where a lot of the electric it doesn't happen all the time, but it's in the event that it does happen.

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Isn't that under warranty? Wasn't that part of what was done?

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No. No. These are gonna be two new light poles. No, I'm saying when they constructed Tyler Street, they ran in one of the light poles, they ran into a condition like that. And we know from work that was done on 19th Avenue that some of these light poles, because they've been out there thirty, thirty five years, some of the wires and conduits have deteriorated. That's why we have that contingency in there.

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Okay. When is his work planned on being done? And can it be in contrast with the other work that's being done?

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Right. They're planning on doing the work October, November. They do the work This year. Yes. When they do the work, it will be done in conjunction with the other streetscape, hardscape work that they're doing and that's why the idea was to capitalize on the pricing they've already gotten.

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It's already gonna be a mess out there, so let's have that whole thing now. We understand that we're gonna have Harrison Street is going to be starting, although it's going to be starting at the East End. They won't be down here October, November. So that will be helpful. And we're also going to coordinate with the local businesses on Harrison Street and with the residents.

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Okay. Well, the key is to try to keep the streets open as best as possible in a safe manner.

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DANIELLE All right. Board Member Kalari.

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Motion to approve.

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DIMARTIN: All right. Have a motion to approve. Board Member Biederman, you're up. Is there a second from you?

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DIMARTIN: Sure. DIMARTIN: I want to

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DANIEL But Motion and a second and comments. Go ahead.

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Discussion. So I agree with Commissioner Hernandez. And we discussed my concerns yesterday. I just want to and seeing that picture that was just presented as opposed to what was in backup actually clears up. It's a better image so maybe some of this stuff should be in backup.

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But I just want to make sure that we're auditing the invoicing and making sure that they're not passing some of their costs on to us because I agree that while they're out there, they should be doing it. And what was discussed is that some of this was their obligation, but I understand how some of it's our obligation to. And while they're mobilized, they might as well get it done, just as long as they're not passing some of their costs along to us. Thank you.

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All right. We have a motion and a second to approve item number nine. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none. Item carries unanimously. Thank you. And appreciate the fellow from state companies being here and looking forward to getting the work done. All right, Mr.

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Executive Director, items ten and eleven have been withdrawn due to the unavailability of the representative from Ocean Rescue Alliance. However, there is a walk on resolution, DCRA DCRA twenty twenty five-thirty six, which is a resolution of the CRA approving and authorizing the appropriate CRA officials to increase the contract duration with Ocean Rescue Alliance, Inc. By an additional one hundred and eighty days. And of the executive director is happy to explain. Go ahead.

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Well, just I had spoken with Shelby, and she is unable to be here physically today. So the items that she has requested, both the presentation explaining how the project transpired and then her requests. And her requests exceed what you see represented here. This is what we've been able to document as solid in terms of appropriateness and the documentation. To answer questions on that as well will be carried out at the October meeting.

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There are requests that she has made in addition to that amount that we still haven't received documentation for and we still need to address. And we're in the process of doing that with her, so we'll know more by then. What we do need to do is go ahead and approve this reso covering the extension of one hundred and eighty days on the contract so that we can keep that going forward and finish up work on that. There's issue with a couple of the placements that are slightly outside of the original location and to make sure that we have no permitting and final approval issues there and make sure that that all closes out before we release any holdbacks on that original contract amount.

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Right. Board member Kaleri, then Shuham. Board member Kaleri, go ahead.

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So I understand. I know we talked about it yesterday. I'll make a motion to approve. And in addition to that, since we're just getting this information, I just have a question in regards to placement of the camera. Do we have any update on that as well? If we could ask afterwards, just since we're talking about the coral reef and I want to make sure we had mentioned about it, if you could just give us a brief update, okay? Motion to approve.

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Thank you. Board Member Schuham.

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I'll second that. But I want to understand the reefs that have to be adjusted. Who's bearing the cost to adjust them? I

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wasn't aware there was an adjustment, but

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go ahead. Yeah, we don't know that there's going to be an adjustment necessary. It's just that the placement of a couple of them was a little bit outside the original location identified. Sometimes that's necessary to make those adjustments in the field based on conditions. And I just want to verify that final inspection with, I think, DP, was it, be solid and approved on that before we release some of the final holdings on that. So there may not be any kind of movement necessary. It may be Okay as is. So just want to make sure that's certain, though.

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But if there is an adjustment that the state or other agency requires, that's something that they would bear the cost of?

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They remain responsible for the placement of those, yes.

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Okay. Thank you.

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So just a question, George. I mean, I don't know if the permit's in the name of the city, and they're just processing it for us. But if there is a question on final inspection by the regulating agencies, and if there is a, you know, somehow a requirement to move one, I wouldn't want to, you know, finalize any dollars before we know for sure what happens in that regard. So if final inspection goes beyond the October meeting or not soon enough to, you know, scheduling October meeting, I say we hold back on bringing back items ten and eleven until we pass final inspection by the state. Is that not a reasonable thing to condition the

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I think that's What good

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do you think? Is it outside of that issue?

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No, ten and eleven are withdrawn. And we have the walk on resolution just to extend the duration, one hundred and eighty days.

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I believe there's a clause in the RESO that indicates just that, that we won't release until we get that.

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I gotcha.

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This is the problem with getting this stuff so early. We don't have a chance to

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go through

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it. We're

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doing something kind of

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No. My issue is that if the state says you have to move it 20 feet, 30 feet I have no idea how many feet and we are responsible ultimately to do that, then look, obviously, ocean rescue lines would be responsible. But if for some reason there's nonperformance by them or they say they can't do it, then we would, of course, maybe seek redress from them, but at the same time, ultimately be responsible to the agency. So my point is, let's close out the question or any issue with any agency. Let's get final inspection.

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And then if we want to close out any requests by the contractor, then we do it then. But let's not close out any requests until we have an inspection that passed. I mean, that's my perspective. City, a board council?

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I would just like to advise the board that the reso before you is to extend the contract. And because the contract extension would allow us to amend the contract at a different time if we needed to add additional clauses to address any concerns that you may have.

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Right. So my point is the discussion about the final inspection doesn't affect the reso in front of us, is the extra one hundred and eighty days. But to the executive directors mentioned that he was going to bring back ten and eleven in October, I'm just, you know

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We understand. We understand that

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suggesting that maybe we wait on ten and eleven until we get final inspection.

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And we'll see how the, yeah, the timing works on on knowing that.

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Don't know how the rest of the board feels about that. But

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No. It's fine. And you notice there's a whereas clause in the reservoir today that release of last payment is contingent upon receiving all final governing permitting agency approvals as well, too. But I understand on the timing point on the other releases as well.

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Gotcha. All right, let's hear from any board members who want to comment. Barbara McIlree, did you have anything

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Yeah, I'm just slightly, I guess, disturbed. Because now we're talking about possible moving, placement of these reefs, the whole point is to create I hope that's not going to be the issue.

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I don't

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understand No. What That's news to me. I've never heard of this. Me neither.

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Don't think it will be necessary, but that's not our final call yet. I'm just letting you know there was a couple that were slightly outside the exact boundary location that they were supposed to be, which is not unusual when you do placements like that under those conditions. Sometimes when you get there, you have to adjust with the actual conditions on the floor.

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that push or something about it? Because I think once you place them, the whole point is to create CLARKE: that atmosphere.

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Understood. JOSEPH

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So that's my concern.

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There may be no need to move them at all. We're just waiting to make sure

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that that's the case so

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We have just a little more detail on how outside, whichever boundary it is. And does it mean it's closer to the shore than the boundary, or more north or south, or more deep? Susan, if you have any just insight.

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We received a letter from the Florida Department of Environmental Protection in June. It was a notice, kind of a warning. And so our consultant, Mike Jenkins from ATM, who procured the permit for the project, sent information back to DEP. Please let us know what the issues are. Put it in writing so we can sit down and see what the next steps are.

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We haven't gotten the explanation yet. The last communication, which was about a week and a half ago, DEP said they'll have the information to us within thirty days. In speaking to Mike Jenkins, I asked him what the remediations would be. And he said it's a matter of sitting down and identifying if they're really egregious issues or if they're issues that normally happen because of hard bottom issues when you're placing it. There could be a multitude of solutions, all of which don't require moving them. But we don't know the extent of what their issues are until we get the letter in hand. We're waiting for the letter. As soon as we get the letter, we're going to set up a meeting with DEP and see what the issues are and what we can come to an agreement with.

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Board Member Hernandez?

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Thank you, Mayor. Where is our contractor in all of this?

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The ORAI, Shelby Thomas? Her contract is 100% responsible for deployment. So if there's issues that have to be remediated, it's part of her deployment contract.

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Let me ask you. When we were noticed, why didn't we not reach out to the contractor and says, give us the exact locations of where the structures are at in order for us to know and compare with whatever the DEP is bringing forth? In other words, we shouldn't be at the blind at this point because we have questions that we don't have answers to. And our contractor ought to be able to say, we placed the items in such and such place. This is what the issue could be. In other words, where is our contractor in all of this?

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Well, physically, she said she was unable to be here.

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Yeah, but since June, it's not

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I understand. I understand. Contractor, right? Yes. Yeah.

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I mean, she's aware of this DEP letter and

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Yes. She's aware of the DEP letter. We're waiting to get we don't know the extent. It could be a couple of modules that were placed a foot or two out of the footprint. We really don't know. According to her, she's placed them where the footprint is. Now, when the crane Can

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she prove that? Can she show us something?

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JAMES We're waiting for that. Where we're at right now is we would have to get GPS locations from the crane that was on the barge, compare them to what DEP said, where they were placed, and what was approved in the permit. Until we have that information from DEP, we have asked the contractors to supply her information. Yes.

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But look, I don't want to get back and forth issue. But I don't think you need to worry about getting the GPS location or where the crane was at the time that they deployed. You have the structures actually in the water. You can just get the location from where they're at currently and then compare that to where they were supposed to be. But that information ought to be being supplied to us by the contractor and says, this is what I've done.

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Prove that what she's saying is in fact what took place because she can tell you, oh, I put them where it's supposed to be, but she's not providing that information. I'm just asking, in order for you're asking DEP, which is a regulatory agency, to show us what we did wrong. Look, they're already telling you you did something wrong. I get that we should get that information from them. But as a backup for us to be able to say to them, this is where it was placed, we need to have the information from the contractor.

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Well, DEP also has to say, hey, this is the violation. Well,

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let's see if we have an issue first. If we have an issue first, we'll get that information. If we don't have an issue, then we're done.

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Well, I understand. But they already tell us that we have an issue.

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Whether they're going to

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could be minor. Could be minor.

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Yes. Whether they're going to require any kind of adjustment to a minor.

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I just don't like our contractor not being there and saying, this is what we've done and this is where it is.

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So does the board wish to hold back items ten and eleven until we have final inspection and approval?

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Yes, sir. Yes.

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It's unanimous yes, George. So whenever, after you have final approval, then bring back 10 or 11, if you wish. All right. Let's go to board member Biederman. Go ahead.

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So I know that Commissioner Claire brought up the camera issue. I think we're all waiting, holding our breath, waiting to see this live footage. And when it happened, it was supposed to be like a week or ten days. JOSHUA

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SUSAN. Are we

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going to have monument signs before we see this camera? Or are we going have the camera first?

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The contractor actually went out and made an attempt to do the jet drilling. Unfortunately, the conditions that day were not like the best conditions. So he is supposed to be going out. I believe it's about two to three weeks from now. But the conduit that's there is functioning. We were able to test that.

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So this contract, does he have other jobs that he's working on? Did he get paid? Where are we staying with it?

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What's We the have not paid him for the installation of that last piece of conduit. He'll only get paid once the conduit is in and the system is operational.

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And does he have a time frame in his contract of when he has to get this done by?

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I have to check the time frame. But he, like I said, he did go out and make one attempt already. He's gonna come back with, I think, a different piece of machinery that should be able to access the reef better.

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Okay. All right. All right. Thank you so much. On to item so all those in favor of the resolution extending the contract duration with Ocean Rescue Alliance by additional one hundred and eighty days as walked on by the executive director, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, item carries unanimously. Alright. On to item 12 then.

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And we can we can regard that walk on resolution clerk as 12 a. Okay? Item 12 is a presentation by Susan Goldberg, the deputy director, regarding an update on the Downtown Beach CRA Capital Improvement Project overview. But maybe before you do that, Susan, since that's going to be a discussion perhaps, I know that Rick Meitinger is here, executive director, and so is Richard Chopazian, who said he had a daughter who was ill at home. Do you mind if we just handle the Sure. Crosswalk issue All first for right. All right. So executive director, floor is yours on this mid block crossing versus RICHARD the

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I'll ask Rick to give us an update on the meeting that took place and any subsequent discussion and the status and our ability to move forward.

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I'd like to start by wishing the CRA board and mayor a good morning, along with our executive director of the CRA, who bears a striking resemblance as city manager and senior management staff. This has to do with an ongoing issue regarding the need for a little bit more traffic control, primarily with respect to pedestrian crossings on A1A. There are three different areas that we've been looking at, I think the focus, excuse me, today is gonna be on what they call the five lane section between Sheridan Street and Hollywood Boulevard. The CRA has obtained a permit from the Florida Department of Transportation and their authorization to put in three new traffic signals, both vehicular traffic signals with pedestrian crossing features that Garfield Street's already in. That's one of four.

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Referring to my notes, Nebraska Street, Carolina And Scott Streets. Most of these, I think the philosophy behind selecting the locations had to do with the fact that there are parking garages at these intersections. So there'll be some vehicular traffic there as well as some pedestrian traffic to help them cross A1A. There's a strong interest on the part of a couple of the residents that are here who we met with on-site last week that prefer not to put in traffic signals to slow and stop traffic on A1A. And they want to put in mid block pedestrian crosswalks that have flashing beacons that don't turn red.

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They turn yellow just to warn traffic that there's someone coming that they may need to slow down and stop for. In the past, when the whole project started to start looking at traffic control out there, the Department of Transportation's guidelines would only allow you to do that if you had a volume requirement met with respect to how many pedestrians are crossing the street. It was about 200 an hour, which is pretty unrealistic. Their restrictions have now or their guidelines rather have been relaxed since that time. And they now would allow you to put in these flashing beacons at locations that have something that attracts pedestrian activity.

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So it's not a hard documentation, but there needs to be some rationale behind it. They have to have a raised median in the street in order to provide some sort of refuge and allow for another sign to be put there so people in both lanes could see it easily. And there's a few out there. I think that the gentlemen that are going to speak a little bit later, Mr. Glickman and Mr.

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Schapazian, have identified a few locations where they'd like to have these things placed. There's one in particular between Coolidge And Harding Streets, which is also between two of the proposed traffic signals, which will probably still be installed. And I personally feel that they're gonna help the corridor overall. But we haven't gone to the trouble yet to see whether or not the median's wide enough and if the side, you know, connections where the pedestrian ramps need to be to allow for the crosswalk to be ADA compliant can be built. But we're gonna have an assessment done.

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We haven't done that yet. It's gonna require some engineering study work. And the other locations, they've recommended there aren't too many other ones out there that have median openings or raise rather raised medians that are in a in a spot that's conducive for a pedestrian crossing. There are a couple options. I think they're gonna suggest perhaps that, you know, the Coolidge Street signal be postponed and the median be constructed there.

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But there's a really strong interest that I was told that came up from our emergency service providers when the Florida Department of Transportation reconstructed a quarter to make sure that the center line is available for emergency vehicles. So they were really interested in limiting the number of raised medians. That would have to be something that we'd have to collaborate on before we took it any further than that. But as we stand right now, I think the CRA is prepared to start working at Coolidge. And there's an interest in possibly postponing this. Caroline. Caroline, I'm sorry. So that's about all I know about this. There are some improvements being made North Of Sheridan Street, if you're interested, where all the county parking pods are up against the Intracoastal. They're gonna be putting these beacons in there.

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It's a two lane road. They are a little bit more effective, in my opinion, when there are fewer lanes of traffic to contend with. There's only one more crosswalk there just north of Sheridan Street. And they're gonna put up what they call a hybrid signal, which is kind of a new device that actually stays dark until someone pushes the button. And it actually starts to flash red, meaning that you have to stop. And then it stays steady red until people are across the street. And these programs, I think they're going to be built sometime next year. But I don't have the schedule handy right now. But that's being done to the north. And just to see if I can maintain consciousness here, south of Hollywood Boulevard, it's pretty well built out.

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It's six lanes down there. I personally tried to take out a traveling in each direction to make it a little bit slower. Residents weren't too enthusiastic about that. But there's a crossing issue that's been problematic even before Publix was built, but in that general area. So I've asked the Florida Department's Transportation's Traffic Operations Office, where I spent many years working, to take a look at that because there's a there's a traffic signal that allows people to make a left turn into the Alexander Towers Complex, I believe.

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It's really close to Publix. It doesn't line up with their driveline. And ask them to think about maybe making modification to that that would allow for a left and a U-turn with a pedestrian crossing in it. If you've ever noticed just west of the Tri Rail Station on Hollywood Boulevard, I had one of those installed for a mid block turn and a U-turn for people exiting the Tri Rail Station. It also has a ped crossing for people that were going back and forth from the station. So I think these things are possible. I don't know how far they've gone to do any kind of study or analysis, I remind them every so often. So that's the story of A1A in Hollywood.

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Rick, thank you for the thesis on this subject. If you could just we have a traffic signal proposed and in contract for at what's the name of the street? Carolina Street. The residents that spoke today prefer to have a mid block crossing to the north and south of that two mid block crossings, correct? Yes.

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I think so. And so is it your understanding that if we pursue the mid block crossings, then that they can they're not compatible with the signalized crossing that we were already, you know, contracted and and in motion for at at Carolina? Or can we go forward with Carolina? And if FDOT will approve additional mid block crossings, then we have just more and more is better.

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I think you may be able to fit them both in, but it takes a little bit of finesse to try to make sure that they're properly separated. Because if they're too close to one another, one device is gonna distract driver's attention from the other ones. So we don't want them to be watching these flashing signs.

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Is there a is

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there a rule

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there a

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rule with FDOT that the term that you already know they shouldn't be more than 500 feet or 800 feet?

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I think in this case, it's a judgment call. But as far as full traffic signals go, they kinda like to maintain spacing of about 600 feet so they can provide some coordination between the signals. But apart from

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And do that you know what the how many feet do we have between Carolina and the north and south suggestions by the residents?

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Each block's about 300 feet, I guess.

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And how many blocks do we have?

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Probably enough to put one in. Don't know if the raised medians are there or whether or not the site, you know Right.

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Would have to be added.

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Yeah. But we're gonna look at it on a comprehensive scale objectively. But within keeping in mind that I think that the signals that have been approved, they're gonna go in. Right.

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So that was my point. I think we probably will want to not lose the energy and the authorizations and the contracts that we've already put forward for Carolina. But I imagine that the board here would want to entertain the idea of adding the mid block crossings wherever FDOT could approve them just to increase pedestrian opportunity there on that segment of A1A. So you don't see a problem with us continuing Carolina Street and then approaching FDOT and not hold up necessarily our Carolina project?

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Personally, don't think that'll be a problem. But we do have to look at it pretty closely. And that hasn't really been started yet because it's just recently came up. And as I mentioned, the guidelines that the state's governed by are completely different than they were about a year ago. So it kind of changed

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the GREGORY All right. Let's from the board. Any ideas? And just for our information before we get into a discussion, Susan, what is the contractual timeline for the installation and the status for the Carolina Crossing?

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Sure. So we're actually ready to install the traffic signal. All the components have been purchased. We were waiting for the overhead lines to come down in that area from FP and L. FP and L has indicated that they're going to start pulling the lines down in December. As soon as the lines are pulled down in that area, we are all ready to start the construction of the installation.

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Okay. And do you know maybe Rick knows better. But if we asked FDOT to evaluate the mid block crossings, do we know how long that might take? Because it sounds like we have a lot of lead time to wait for FPL anyway. So can we study the mid block opportunity potentially between now and then? And if we learn something exciting and new between now and December, then god bless America.

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I think Rick can probably address it better. But we have to bring an engineer on board. They have to do traffic engineering analysis and speak to that process and permitting. So he might have a better idea on how long that would take.

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Rick, what do you suppose is the opportunity for us to learn from FDOT how much of an opportunity there is for mid block crossings between now and December?

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They're open to it. What we have to do is look at what's been built on the west side of the road. There's a couple of relatively tall apartment buildings. The gentleman back here indicated there's people from the tower off of Scott Street that have boat slips on the west side that they need to get to and from from time to time.

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There's definitely justification. We have the beach. So people want to get to the beach.

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Yeah. Yeah. It's really what's on the west side of the road that's going to attract people to and from the beach, I think. But it's really it's not a detailed study. You just need to go out there and, first of all, see what exists and find out a little bit more about what's been planned and then look at the spacing, whether or there's a median, a raise of So you

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need to hire a consultant in order for F. DOT to evaluate the Ideally, yes. Opportunity?

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sir. And how long do you suppose that consultant's work would generally take? You think we can get to FDOT before December if we wanted to?

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If we had somebody on board right now, I don't think it would take too long. And in some cases, when I did studies for DOT, you look at an area today, and it's completely different during tourist season in areas like this. So if you want to get the most favorable observations where there's a lot of pedestrian activity out there, you'd probably do it sometime during the

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holiday season. All right. I'll just proffer to the board here if you want to discuss the opportunity to approach FDOT to add additional mid block crossings. Let's just have a quick discussion here and see if we can give the executive director any direction. Let's go to board member Biederman.

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So every time we talk about this, always mention how Delray, Hillsborough Beach, while their A1A may not be as wide as ours, I've seen these mid block crosswalks on Federal Highway in Miami where there's at least four, if not in some areas, six blocks, six lanes across.

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I have too.

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And we were kept being told that F Dot doesn't want to do it in Hollywood. They don't want to it in Hollywood. Now, we could get it done in Hollywood, don't see The Carolina Street was like a Well, if we can't get it here, let's just do Carolina Street. So I don't have a problem with postponing Carolina Street until we have a better picture. We have an open contract with Kim Lee Horn, I think, to do a traffic study if we have to. Am I correct? So we don't really have to bid out an RFQ, right?

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We do also have an agreement with the Marriott paying half. I don't know what obligations there are. I don't know how quick we can necessarily delay or not continue forward. I I don't know if staff has any feedback or city attorney on whether or not that's a cancelable or delayable project. I mean, legally speaking, if you don't have the answer now, you

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can I don't have the answer? I would need to review the specific contract.

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We have a few months remaining before we can even mobilize to continue Carolina. So between now and then, we can look all that up. I'm just saying.

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Yeah, but I mean, once the mobilize goes into motion, it's going to be harder to stop a moving train.

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Not until after

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Let's not mobilize yet. I mean, let's kind of like pause. Well, there is a

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pause there.

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Better discussion now that that's if willing to let us do these. What's it, the hawk or the RFB?

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called a rapid rectangular flashing beacon, which is RRFB for short. First one I drove through, I didn't notice it in the town of Davie and I would have run someone over. So they're kind of a new device. People

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are need in to pay attention process to of people on the side of the road too sometimes.

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Yeah. But I've seen some on eight lane sections in Miami Dade County that I thought were curious. But they put them in down there. It's a different DOT district. And sometimes the department head has a different philosophy on how they want to maintain their territory. But here, they're a little more open to it. But I still think that the signals themselves are gonna do something beyond the pedestrian crossing. It's gonna slow traffic down and it's gonna give people a safe way to get on a one eight from Surf Road because the project that was done out there took out the bike lanes which give you a little extra room to nose out to see if there's oncoming traffic northbound primarily. And now you're right up against a building. So it's pretty hard to see traffic.

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So I think that you start stopping traffic intermittently with traffic signals that are coordinated and pretty well fine tuned. And it creates what they call a platooning effect. So you have groups of vehicles traveling together.

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But the key word is coordinating. We know Broward County doesn't always coordinate their street lights very well. Even though we keep hearing about, don't know, twenty years we've been hearing that Broward County is going to coordinate the street light.

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They have the technology. They have to stay on top of it. But I think on A1A, when the project was underway, if you push a pedestrian button, it throws everything out of coordination. So in many cases, they just pre programmed the pedestrian crossing phase in to come up like it would routinely, like your lawn sprinkler would be set. And that kind of coordination works pretty well if the traffic volumes are relatively stable throughout the day. But the county is pretty talented. I think they can do a good job out there.

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So if there's support, I wouldn't have a problem pausing Carolina Street.

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Just to clarify, Board Member Beto, I don't know if this impacts your feelings. But until FPL moves their power lines, we can't do anything on Carolina Street. And so we're hoping for December. So we do have at least three months September, November, December

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And Marriott's see if not we're learning anything. Building anything tomorrow anyway.

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I'm not worried about Marriott. I don't care about Marriott. It's just more we can't put the signal GREGORY until FPL moves their lines. All I'm saying is we have three months between now and then, without saying delay right now, to learn from F DOC if there's an opportunity.

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How long does it take Kim Lee Horn to do a traffic study? DELL:

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Well, what we were just talking about is, yeah, we've got we've got them on board or and the ability, and we'll move on that as a priority right away. And it sounds like we have got time in the interim

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to get that

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done so that we don't have to interfere with the Carolina, you know, intersection as well. And that's what I'd recommend.

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And if we want to interfere with Carolina after we learn from SDOT and from Kimberly Horn, then great. I'm open to that.

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Yeah. The study itself would be more of a drive by to see what's been built on the West Side that might attract pedestrian traffic. It's really kind of inventorying They don't have

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to model it?

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I don't think they'd have to go quite that far. Not to get DOT's permission. They really just want kind of a narrative that says why they think it's a good idea to put one of these beacons here at this location. But there has to be a raised median there. There's not one at Carolina Street, which has been suggested. So that would take a little bit of time to design it

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To construct it.

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Build it. And once that's done, the signal is absolutely unnecessary. The other thing is

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we Hold really have support

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on. Hold on, Rick. So there's no raised median at Carolina Street, but we're not looking to put a crosswalk at Carolina Street.

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Well, it's nothing traffic signal.

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No, I understand that. But you're talking about a raised median at Carolina that we don't have. So we need the raised median South Of Carolina where we're talking about doing a crosswalk.

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There's a couple locations that I inventoried a while ago without getting out and making measurements. But there's one to the north, excuse me, a couple blocks north between Harding and Coolidge. It's almost midway between the signal that's been proposed at Scott Street in Carolina. That's a it may be wide enough to do that. The real engineering work has to be mainly a design assessment to find out whether or not there's enough width in the median for a pedestrian refuge.

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If you add more, you have to look at some drainage characteristics. So it's really a design effort. But the main thing as far as I'm concerned, well, not the main thing, but one of the more important aspects would be to make certain we speak with our fire chief and our police chief to find out if they're gonna be impacted adversely if they raise the median up to the point where their vehicles can't get by traffic that gets bogged down at Sheridan Street, for example, when the bridge goes up or down. Right now, people just stream from the south and they show up at Sheridan Street at the same time rather than being brought up in groups, as I mentioned before, if they were under signal control further south. And it takes, even when the bridge is in its down position, it takes three or four cycles sometimes on the weekend to get through there.

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With signals in place, it's probably not gonna be much better, but at least it may leave gaps in the side streets for people to get out instead of being gridlocked. And I think you'll have more control over speed out there, too, under those circumstances. But the study is not that detailed because they're not looking for a lot of crossing activity.

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All right, Rick, I'm going to cut you off because we're going to keep the discussion. Let's hear from the board. Let's hear from Board Member Schuham, then Gruber.

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Thank you, chair. First, Rick, I just want to thank you. I feel like we're super lucky to have somebody who's been around as long as you have on not only this issue, but also with all the FDA.

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Thank you for the compliment right before another birthday.

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But you're truly an expert in this type of thing. I remember about six months or a year ago, we I think I brought back from the MPO the fact that they were looking at lightening up this mid block idea. We have a relatively new secretary now in our district. So what was once not allowed is now being considered, if I understand what you're saying.

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That's correct.

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And also, I just in its simplest way, what you're saying is, let's do both. You can have the light to slow things down, And you can have the crosswalks to make pedestrian crossing safer. Is that

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I think it's feasible, yes.

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Okay. And so, yeah. I mean, and then the other thing, Susan, that I would say is more is safer, I think. But I remember very distinctly when we had this conversation about installing the traffic light and the contributions from the Marriott, that the technical the mechanics of it were such that it could just be a purely pedestrian crossing. That you could convert it to a traffic signal, but that the intent was to make it a pedestrian crossing that would be activated when someone came on board came up to the intersection, correct?

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That's 100% correct. This is a pedestrian activated signal.

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Right. So I mean, it seems to me, have them mid block, have them at the corners, have them wherever. I mean, we have people crossing all over. And I think you'll have I agree with you you'll have no trouble persuading FDOT. We have attractions on both sides of that street.

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We had a fatality where someone's crossing at no lights. And so there's lots of people crossing that street in lots of different locations. But particularly where you have four six lanes, I mean, to me, the more we have, the safer and the more opportunities. The only other thing I would say is what's happening on the North Side Of Sheridan with that new device. Why wouldn't FDOT use that same device, the new hybrid technology, in these mid block locations that Bob's talking about?

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I don't know what the rationale is, but I'm pretty sure that the former department head was opposed to that rather than a regular traffic signal. I can't tell you why. Okay. But they may have more stringent requirements with respect to pedestrian volumes for that versus a flasher because it does stop traffic. And I think because they have a designated crosswalk, you know, at North Beach Park right now, the justification criteria were met there for that device.

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JEANNE So I mean, personally, I support making crossing for people safer everywhere, up and down there. I think it's great to now have a formal position coming out of FDOT after years of pushing this. I always have understood that that traffic light at Carolina would be treated as a pedestrian crossing, with the opportunity to make it a traffic light in the future, if needed. And I certainly agree with the mayor that we have a natural pause now anyway. And we have the opportunity to expand and explore where we can put these mid blocks. Thanks.

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Thank you. Let's hear from board member Gruber. Thank you very much.

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Rick, in your opinion, like, so my perception is, and I've crossed A1A all the time, and I drive a one a all the time, mean, every day, is that a pedestrian light, a light that turns red, seems safer than a crosswalk, whether it flashes yellow, whether it's painted. I mean, that the industry like, is that what you believe that it's safer?

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I would say so, yes. Because people know what the red means for the most part.

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Unless they're color blind, but at least it's always in the same position on the signal display. So yeah, but for those you have to meet a volume requirement.

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To put the to get the

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To get people to stop. Yeah.

1:15:007

To put in the red light, Right. We which we met already and we're approved for it. And I think this has been in the works since before I even started here five years ago.

1:15:091

That's not

1:15:0910

easy to get their permission.

1:15:10 – 1:15:557

Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, I just I I picture the crosswalk on the West End of City Hall. Good luck crossing that. Nobody stops at that when you wanna go to the gas station to get a coffee. You sit there and yeah. Good luck if you walk out to it. So I I mean, I feel if if this has been in the process, if the red light if the pedestrian light makes it safer I mean, I use the one by Sierra Towers every day when I park my car every day of the week, I would hate to cross that without without that light. I think we should do both. I think the safer, the better. The more the merrier. And if those have been the problem I don't know why we would pause after all this time, to be honest with you. I'm not sure why the hesitancy to even put those in. If it makes it safer, great. So, yeah, that's in your opinion, that's the safest way to cross.

1:15:557

That's my perception.

1:15:567

Yeah. Red light, cars stop.

1:15:5810

Yeah. Most of the time.

1:16:00 – 1:16:157

Well, more often more often than a painted crosswalk or a yellow flashing light at the on the side of a crosswalk. Yeah. Those ones that you were talking about, they're gonna come in on the North Side Of Sheridan that actually turn red, like a flashing red.

1:16:1510

It's just one, but yes.

1:16:167

Right. Is is that what they have in Key Biscayne?

1:16:1910

I haven't been down there for a pretty long time.

1:16:217

Okay. Because I saw those. Those are pretty effective.

1:16:23 – 1:16:4410

Yeah. It's yeah. It has a mast arm that goes over the road, two displays and they're kinda like a they look like a t configuration. There's two signal heads on top and two on the bottom. The two on top is a red flasher and a solid red and then the yellow clearances are below it. But they're completely one: dark. You don't notice that they're there unless somebody pushes the button and they automatically turn

1:16:441

And they

1:16:44 – 1:16:5910

flash up. People are gonna be a little surprised. This is new technology in the world of traffic control and you kind of like to give people an opportunity to get accustomed to it. And that's pretty new stuff down here but maybe Hollywood will be on the forefront of

1:16:591

Thanks, Rick.

1:17:00 – 1:17:137

Thanks. So I don't think we should pause if Rick says it makes it safer and that's the safest way to cross, it's been in the process for years, I think we should go forward and try to get the mid block crossings as well if the opportunity is

1:17:131

Thank you. Let's go to board member Koduleri.

1:17:17 – 1:18:020

Thank you, mayor. So I'm kind of mind boggled because I remember having this discussion about a year ago. And maybe Bob, if you can come up. I just have a question for Bob Wickman. So just refresh my memory, because I think we're making this more complicated than it actually is. A year ago, give or take, you would come and ask for the crosswalk. And it was based on not having the crosswalk because we were, one, getting money monies to help implement a signal light for the Marriott area. Correct? And you wanted a crosswalk mid

1:18:046

Mid block.

1:18:050

Mid block. And then there was something about the vote that didn't include Central Beach, but South Beach had voted for it.

1:18:116

That's correct.

1:18:120

And this was a big discussion that we had.

1:18:14 – 1:18:250

And I believe that majority of the commission, based on that vote, we were like, sorry, no mid blocks because this is what Efthot was saying. Am I correct?

1:18:256

That's correct.

1:18:26 – 1:18:400

Okay. So I'm in favor of crosswalks, 100%. I don't think that red light or the flashing light determines anything. Flashing lights, you have to abide by the rules. And people don't.

1:18:41 – 1:19:220

But they have them where in other areas, not just Miami, not just Deerfield Beach, they have the flashing lights. They are very prominent to slow down. They also have officers that sometimes stand at the lights to make it happen, which we don't have the resources for. But don't think that I'm just really taken back that one, that we're having this discussion again when it was a no not to do it because of whatever the reason, the vote. And I think I argued it.

1:19:24 – 1:20:090

But safer was more better faster. And here's an opportunities for us to again, yet again, we're talking about safety, provide safety for the entire city, our visitors and our residents. So this is an opportunity for us to make things better, period. Raising the median to do the crosswalk. I personally, I'm not an engineer. And maybe this gentleman that said he is a civil engineer. I don't think I've ever seen a raised crosswalk. I think we're adding more minutiae to the project. Like you put the painting on the roadway, you make it simple, and you go across it. In case I'm wrong, let me know.

1:20:109

If I may.

1:20:110

I would like you to interrupt other individuals too when they speak if they're saying something wrong.

1:20:183

It's like,

1:20:186

awaits me.

1:20:189

JOSEPH No, no. Don't mean to please finish. I don't mean to interrupt there. I thought you were

1:20:23 – 1:20:360

JOSEPH No. So I'm just saying, we it seems like we're just making a mountain out of a molehill. Put the median walks. We got it approved. If F DOT has changed the mind, let's approve it today and move forward. Adding all this other stuff is too much.

1:20:36 – 1:20:569

I was trying to agree with you and basically say, I think we've got clear recognition from Rick that we can proceed. And we will make it a priority to proceed with whatever analysis is done for the pedestrian crossings. And we'll go forward. And I think we'll be able to get all of it done. And we just need to move on and do it now. We'll make it a priority. Without

1:20:560

delaying.

1:20:579

Without delaying Carolina. Correct.

1:20:59 – 1:21:280

The only other thing that I and thank god I have a I can tell my memory is still good. Thank So you for clarifying. The only thing that I clearly remember and it kind of didn't I don't want you had said something about mufflers sitting and the noise and being in your window with the streetlight. That to me seemed very like self protecting yourself. It's all about safety.

1:21:28 – 1:21:500

And I think I said that at the last meeting that we had about this and I think that that's what we continue. It is not about what's best for you per se, it's what's best for everyone. And so I just want that to be on the record and I think that we're just spinning our wheels and thank you city manager for moving forward on this. I think it'll be the best thing. And thank you both for coming out and speaking.

1:21:50 – 1:22:146

I just want to just add a couple of things, if I may. So in February 2024, you, as the board, asked then Cameo to go back to FDOT for mid block crosswalks. He never did. At the April 2024 meeting, when you were about to vote on the minutes, I asked you to include all of that in the minutes. We had a discussion, and you included it in the minutes.

1:22:14 – 1:22:426

Last week, when we met with FDOT and city staff Okay, we met with Jonathan Overton and another fellow by the name of Mariano. What they explained to us is, for the mid block crosswalks, they would have a flashing thing on each side of A1A and one in the middle. Okay, I asked him about the cost. He said the cost of that, to put those in, is about $100,000 It's a great savings.

1:22:431

Now It's like with a curved refuge in the middle and re striping the center turn lane to

1:22:49 – 1:23:256

That's what he said. I asked him what's the approximate cost? He said approximately $100,000 to do all of that. So you're looking at the traffic light that you all approved, I think, was, what, dollars 700,000, dollars 750,000 or more. So how many of these things can you put in for that money? I mean, quite a bit. So I'm just we were happy to meet with them, bring them down. And once you do a site visit with somebody, they get a whole different picture of what's going on. And that's what we wanted to do. There are a lot of people.

1:23:25 – 1:23:586

Now you have other developments on the West Side Of A1A, they need to cross the street. They're not able to. There's developments on the East Side Of A1A that need to go to the West Side. Some of them will have boat docks and boats on the other side, so they need to cross. You have people now crossing both ways. You want more development on the West Side Of A1A, so there's got to be an easier way for them to come. So our concern with the traffic light again is once the bridge is up, the traffic comes, the light turns red at Carolina. Everybody on the West Side Of A1A is now landlocked into their buildings. They can't get out.

1:23:580

All right. Well, I think it's a win for you, Mr. Cookman. And I think that it's a win for us provide safety. So hopefully, we can move forward with it. Do we have to call for a vote?

1:24:051

No, not right now.

1:24:076

Could you allow Rich to just say a few things about

1:24:101

I think we've talked out the issue. I want to hear from the rest of the board members, guys. Let's go to Board Member Hernandez. Thank you, Bob.

1:24:16 – 1:24:424

Thank you, Mayor. I think that Bob just hit the nail on the head. If we want more development to take place on the West Side Of A1A and people to be able to cross and we are looking to get more development to be taken there We need to be able to have not only one crosswalk, but maybe a set of crosswalks in order for us to be proactive rather than to be reactive. Let's not wait for somebody to get hurt before we actually decide to act on something like this. I agree with that.

1:24:42 – 1:25:254

Regarding the light at the intersection of Carolina, if that's already been approved and that's already been basically negotiated with a particular business on the East Side so that they can get the people to come across, I think we should go with that. At the same time, we shouldn't do something just because we can't, especially when we're gonna do something to offset that. So I'm okay with going through because we're up to December before they actually change the lights if everything goes on schedule. And then if nothing else. But I would ask for staff to bring that back to us so that we can be unnoticed as to when it's gonna take place.

1:25:25 – 1:25:384

If we have the time between now and December, would you guys please bring it back for two things, to update us as to what we're doing in the mid block crosswalk and to let us know what the schedule is looking like for that particular traffic.

1:25:389

We will do that. We're ready to move forward. We've got clear direction.

1:25:424

And having said that, is there anything else that Bob or Richard want to add to this? What is it?

1:25:498

So I'd like to hand these out to everybody.

1:25:524

You need to give that to Phyllis?

1:25:548

Sorry. I'd like to hand these out to everyone because the whole commission here felt that the whole time that we could not do mid mile crosswalks. That's not the case.

1:26:05 – 1:26:214

But for fairness, even though I was not here, that's what we were being told that we couldn't do. And there has been a change of policy because there has been a change of directors. But my point is, if right now you're getting what you're looking for, if there isn't anything else, we don't need Just to

1:26:22 – 1:26:548

quickly, I'll tell you one of my concerns. This is an email from Mark Plass in 2021 stating that he was putting together concepts for mid block crosswalks. Mr. Mittinger here told him not to. He didn't bring that to the commission. My biggest concern is he's pushing traffic lights, vehicle traffic lights, when the commission only wants crosswalks. It's concern to us, and this is why we ask if we could be part of the process. You guys have told repeatedly that you would prefer no vehicle traffic lights but crosswalks. And he's still pushing the traffic lights.

1:26:55 – 1:27:348

And again, it's just a concern because again, you guys have been asking. As far as I know you guys don't want me to talk about some of the safety concerns and other things he said. I completely disagree with. You know, I don't know how long you want me to talk or cut me off. But my biggest concern is not postponing this light. If it gets installed and then the DOT says, no, you can't put these crosswalks too close, nobody's crossing at Carolina Street. Again, there's nothing there. So it would be a waste. If we could do all of them, wonderful. But to put the Carolina Street light in and then not have a crosswalk for four blocks on each side

1:27:34 – 1:28:004

Here's what I've asked staff, and I need you to just read between the lines. I have asked staff to give us an update Yes, I agree, yeah. Before the light goes on as to what the schedule for that is after FP and L undergrounds the line. And at the same time, to give us an update as to where the crosswalks are at. At that point, we can revisit the point whether we want the Carolina light or whether we want to wait for the crosswalks.

1:28:00 – 1:28:344

That's the reason that I'm asking for the update to be had before any work gets done. And therefore, we're all on the same page. I got a feeling knowing Bob, he's gonna be involved. Whether he has to sit at the table or not, he's gonna be involved and he's gonna keep us updated. But I want the staff to actually buy into what it is that we want. What we're looking for is safety and continuity to be able to get people back and forth across A1A. That's all. So if there is nothing else to be said, the staff has a direction. Do I need support from that or are we all on the

1:28:359

We're good. We're good.

1:28:361

Let's All right, final word on this issue with Vice Chair Quintana, and then we'll move on.

1:28:41 – 1:29:133

JOSEPH Thank you, chair. I tend to want to listen to everybody before I speak. So I'm in support of the idea that we should I'll wait until we have that update that board member Hernandez spoke with. But at this point, what I feel is we should do both. We have a culture that very much puts the power and the attention on cars and much less so on pedestrians.

1:29:14 – 1:29:513

So anything that we can do to give pedestrians a fighting chance, I think we should do. And I think the traffic signals are necessary because people do not pay attention. Even with traffic signals, they're not always guaranteed to stop. But the pedestrian crosswalks, I've seen the one in Davie that you're talking about, and I think I spoke about it the first time we discussed this, that people just barreled right through, even with the flashing red light, yellow light. So it might be a while before we can retrain all of us who are used to me first if I'm in a car. So I'm in favor of both.

1:29:52 – 1:30:181

All right. We have a consensus. Thank you, George. And thank you, Richard and Bob, for engaging. We're now going to have Kimley Horn take a look at those mid block crossings and see how they can be implemented with or without Carolina. All right. Thank you all. On to item 12. Let's go ahead now with the presentation by the deputy director regarding an update on the downtown and beach CRA capital improvement project overview.

1:30:18 – 1:30:549

JOSHUA If I can, Mayor, as Susan gets ready to do that. We've got a lot of information to go through on this on the capital program for both the beach and the downtown. And so if it's possible to get through the presentation as quickly as possible, holding any comments or questions for after would help because the package of information will take a little bit of time to get through. Then I think we'll have plenty of time at the end. But this is, of course, is a precursor to any discussion, questions, answers that we need leading up to the budget hearing, which will be on the evening of the twenty fifth as well.

1:30:54 – 1:31:071

JOSHUA George, usually it's just for purposes of discussion. It helps makes things more clear that if once people go through downtown, then we have questions about if we have questions about downtown, and then we get to the beach and have beach instead of combining them both.

1:31:079

Thank you.

1:31:081

So let's go ahead with downtown.

1:31:12 – 1:31:473

Good morning. Susan Goldberg, Deputy Director of the CRA. Before I get started, I really would like to extend a big honor and appreciation for the capital team to Francisco Diaz, Sarita Chamat, Chris Crosuto and Mo Anwar. They really did all the work on the presentation and so I'll get right through it and obviously as soon as I finish the downtown, I'll pause and then the same with the beach. This is just a glimpse of downtown.

1:31:48 – 1:32:333

You can see the downtown CRA boundaries, a couple of snippets of the Hollywood Boulevard project and just moving through. This is a snapshot of CIP projects all the way from the Harrison Street project, the neighborhood FP and L lighting, the Tyler Street, the C slip, the signage, the downtown North alleyway and the project that we are collaborating with DCM on, which is The U. S. One Complete Streets Landscape Improvement, which is a streetscape project because it's about trees. This is a CRA, this is our Gantt chart, which spells out really where we are on each stage of the project.

1:32:35 – 1:33:313

I guess the most, the one that's coming up the biggest one that's coming up is the Harrison Street project, which we're ready to embark on at the September, October. We've had some great meetings over the summer with the business associations and we've had three meetings, great input, which we've worked out how to do the phasing to make everyone the most happy and the least disruptive to the businesses. And we actually do have a Coffee with the Crew coming up in September with the businesses again and obviously with our office being right downtown, we're always available. So this is the vision of what it would look like at night or towards sunset. The Harrison streetscape with the Bollard change order that was done a couple of months ago was $835,000 We expect to be starting, as I mentioned, first week in October.

1:33:31 – 1:33:583

The Hollywood Boulevard streetscape is substantially complete. We have a walk through September 25 with the contractor. There are a couple of warranty items which will extend past this. One is the crosswalks and we also have a meeting with the DHBA September 16. We're going to be going through the timing of the crosswalks as well as the bollards with the downtown DHB.

1:33:59 – 1:34:313

This is the Bollard project, which the board approved today, moving ahead with Lauren's contracting. The neighborhood avenue improvements, the FP and L lights are in City of Hollywood permitting. Just a couple of outstanding issues with FP and L. And as soon as the permit is cleared, they will order products and we anticipate they would be able to start installation at the beginning of the year. The neighborhood component has There are three components to the neighborhood project.

1:34:31 – 1:34:583

There is the sidewalk repairs that, for the most part, have been done. We need to do some adjustments at the alleyways with our concrete contractor. There's the FP and L lighting improvements, which I just mentioned. And then there's landscape improvements. Public Works already has gone in with their contractor and trimmed a lot of the trees where the new lights are going and then we'll have one more tree trimming right before the lights are installed.

1:34:59 – 1:35:393

The C slip project for Tyler Street, so this is an application that the CRA had put in several years ago. The cityCRA was awarded this project. Funding for this project from the MPO, from the C slip, will not happen until 2028, which is just a couple of years away. This is a demonstration project of what the streetscape will look like for the whole length from 21st to Young Circle, and this was implemented by the estate company on the South Side of Tyler Street. Again, this is a view of the demonstration project.

1:35:39 – 1:36:213

It's an artistic rendering. The signage project is forthcoming. The contractor, just to give a little of an update, the vendor was bought out by another company so that company merger is being reviewed by legal just to be able to move ahead with the shop drawings for that project. Again, we hope that we can start getting some shop drawings in about a month, as soon as that buyout legal papers are reviewed and approved. The North Alleyway Drainage Project has been coordinated with the City of Hollywood.

1:36:22 – 1:36:573

We did bring on a consultant for the project that has worked out a combination of permeable concrete and concrete. We have worked with engineering on this. Engineering and the CRA are contracting right now for a set of construction documents to be permitted by the consultants, so we hope to be able to build that this year. And this is the downtown CRA. We call this our kind of pay down.

1:36:57 – 1:37:433

So there's a couple of projects here that we are funding and that would be the Tyler Street project, waiting for the rest of that C slip money. We're proposing the Arts Park Splash Pad, the Arts Park fencing and of course the funds for the golf course. Now some of those numbers are going to be a little bit flexible because we don't have the exact dollars until the fiscal year is closed out, but that's what we're estimating in our CIP based on the data we have that finished out the August. So that's the downtown and happy to answer any questions.

1:37:441

Commissioner Clari.

1:37:46 – 1:37:590

Yes. Can you just verify on the Hollywood Ballard? It shows on here, just for clarification purposes or the Hollywood Boulevard.

1:37:593

Sorry, I'm going backwards.

1:38:010

It's okay.

1:38:033

Whoops. Why, I'm going back. I'm going, okay, I'm probably doing this. Let me see if I got it right this time. Okay, let me

1:38:130

Keep going all the way back to your

1:38:160

Keep going, keep going.

1:38:223

Oops, that was it. That was it.

1:38:24 – 1:38:360

Sorry Is it $5.75? But today we maybe clarification purposes today we verified $3.91 with the I'm sorry, yep, negotiated price. So is that reflected in it, or is that an overall

1:38:373

So this is Yeah, the need to go to the bollard. I apologize.

1:38:440

And then if you show, there's one slide that you show the breakdown. Yes,

1:38:470

So I just want to know if we were able to correct that because that's about $175,000 difference.

1:38:54 – 1:39:233

Just get me to the right slide. Sorry. Okay, so when here's what happened. When we did the budget for this project, we did the budget in house and this was our estimate based upon what we thought a contractor would come in on, what we thought the bollards would be the exact cost. So we budgeted for the whole project 575,000 Okay.

1:39:23 – 1:39:593

Fast forward, in July, we approved $168,000 for the purchase of the bollards and then today you approved $399,000 So actually, if you look at that together, the project has come in at $568,000. So that was our estimate. We were we were off We close. So in other words, the budget, that's the project budget, the $5.75, but it's actually coming in as the construction at $3.99 and the purchase of the bollards at 168.

1:40:011

All right.

1:40:010

Thank you.

1:40:02 – 1:40:251

Thank you. So Susan, if you go to the last slide that shows the closeout list for downtown, It is labeled as fiscal years '26 to '27 at the top. That's it right there. So as we know, just from a funding perspective, downtown's TIF expires. We've already received our final payment.

1:40:25 – 1:41:381

And as of this upcoming year, the only revenue coming from the county will be the $3,000,000 a year for the upcoming five years to support CRA operations for the 'twenty '5 through 'thirty or whichever the the months fall on. So all I'm pointing out here is that there's $18,900,000 in total anticipated projects that are already in the works and use up the dollars that we have, with the dollars that we have totaling $20,700,000 leaving a potential excess of still potentially available dollars of $1,700,000 So can you talk about and maybe we'll hear during the budget presentation, Susan, what obviously, these are estimates. But what is the CRA director's plan and staff plan on the 1.7? Just assuring us, of course, that those dollars would be, of course, obligated to avoid any potential clawback come the expiration of the TIF period? I know we're well within our opportunity to identify continuing projects, but just meshing that.

1:41:381

Go ahead.

1:41:39 – 1:42:253

Well, as I Yeah. So that number 1.7, we really don't know what that number is. It could be substantially less and until we have that hopefully when we have the budget presentation, we'll have a finer analysis of that number. If that number is even half of that, it it it could go into those three accounts that we've identified, which is the Tyler Street C slip because really we had been carrying 3,400,000.0 on that previously because that was gonna be what the CRA would contribute towards the Tyler Street project. If you remember, we had taken those funds back last year to put towards the golf course.

1:42:25 – 1:42:383

Right. So that could be an opportunity. And we really don't know how much the splash pad would be at the Arts Park. So again, once we had a more definitive analysis of that number

1:42:38 – 1:42:571

So real quick, the Tyler Street Streetscape is still holding a million dollars worth of our available dollars as a placeholder for that. But yet, that's not a project that's anticipated at least until 2028. And the '20 28 MPO dollars, are those construction dollars or design dollars at that time?

1:42:573

All inclusive.

1:42:581

So construction wouldn't really take place until years after 2028?

1:43:033

We think that construction could we have a set of drawings. Obviously, they were drawings. They're not fully permitted construction drawings.

1:43:133

Hopefully, the consultant can be brought on in 2028 and anticipate constructing in 2029.

1:43:20 – 1:44:171

What I'm pointing out for the board is if the board decided based on perhaps some options that you'd show us during budget presentation, if we wanted to pivot and not have $1,000,000 sitting there for at least three years, you know, untouchable, maybe we would want to invest those dollars present day through this year, the upcoming year, obligate them for a different, more active project. And the city will pick up the $1,000,000 years from now because it's receiving the TIF and everything else. So it could be that we still have $2.7 or so $7,000,000 or so dollars to perhaps discuss during the budget presentation so that if there were excess to include or not include this million bucks, are there project types that the CRA board or CRA staff would suggest that we move forward without, again, holding those dollars sequestered until the MPO project? I'm just throwing that out there for discussion by the board.

1:44:17 – 1:44:421

And maybe Board Member Hernandez might know of the needs of the north and the South area, Royal Poinciana, and Parkside that would behoove us to move forward with. We've discussed lane configuration, directional traffic, parking issues. These are question marks. But if we have dollars here, let's not lock them up when we can do things with them. Is just positing it to the board? Let's go to

1:44:431

Member Kalari will finish, and then Commissioner Hernandez.

1:44:45 – 1:45:060

Just to finish on this. So if you take and just help me understand. So you just said that it's $3.99 plus we purchased the bollards. But if you add the monies up here that's slotted for October 2025 till December 2026, it equals $5.35. It still doesn't equal out what we just talked about.

1:45:063

We have $20,000 in there for permitting.

1:45:100

Right, but we just agreed on $3.99. So is that $3.99 and the purchase of them broken down into this?

1:45:183

It's all inclusive in there.

1:45:21 – 1:45:373

Yes. That covers everything. There's no additional costs above that. It was the $3.99, which is the construction price, dollars 20,000 for permitting. That was in the RESO today. And the RESO that you approved back in July was for a $168,000 for the purchase of the bollards.

1:45:370

So you took the two prices and you combine them together and then you broke them down to be paid out till January 2025 even though we paid for the bollards already.

1:45:46 – 1:46:183

It's all paid. That's just estimating the way it's broken down is how much of that dollars we expect to spend every month. Like, when we order the bollards, we have to pay them x. When the bollards are here and the contractor starts, we have to pay a little bit at a time. Each time he installs, he puts in an authorization for payment, a request for payment. So the way that we break it down is how much we anticipate spending every month on the project and even during close out. But the total that we would be spending is the total that's there.

1:46:19 – 1:46:320

So I'm still not clear on that because we've already purchased the bollards prior to October 2025. So that money should already have been spent, correct? Because we agreed on it, we paid for them, we bought them.

1:46:323

Correct, but the purchase order Are

1:46:370

we making installment payments?

1:46:383

No, no. You approved the purchase of the bollards. We have ordered the bollards. The bollards are due here, I think, October.

1:46:500

But we paid for them already.

1:46:533

We have a purchase order in, correct.

1:46:561

We be payable upon receipt.

1:46:593

We have a purchase order. When they arrive here, that's when we pay.

1:47:03 – 1:47:211

Upon delivery. But, Board Member Kalari, are you looking at the breakdown of the breakout in the months and saying, why is it broken out into small chunks every month when we had lump sum payments or obligations? Maybe, Susan, you could just explain the disparity between approving $3.99 today and how you have it broken down here, 50,000

1:47:213

for We wouldn't five pay. For the construction. We would not pay the $3.99 in one lump sum. We would pay

1:47:270

MARY But the 168, we would, because we're purchasing a product so that we have it readily available, correct? MARY

1:47:3311

Yes. MARY

1:47:33 – 1:47:510

So that number, the 168 is not reflective. This here shows, if you add up that funding, it equals $5.35, I believe, or 5, I just did the math, $5.35. And on the screen here, says $5.95.

1:47:51 – 1:48:140

there's a discrepancy. That's all I'm saying. So if we purchased and this is just a plus b equals c, right? So I just am trying to understand, if we purchase the bollards, we have to have them. Are they charging us that they're on back order or only getting 20 a week a month?

1:48:14 – 1:48:440

It looks like we're getting however many a month And we're only paying for them because the way it seems to me is that we paid for the bollards up front, 168,000. And then for the construction, it's broken down. The numbers don't jive. That's what I'm trying to explain. 168 and then you take these numbers that are here, equals 5 and 35,000. In addition to 168, then we're above what we've already approved.

1:48:45 – 1:48:563

Understand. I'll adjust the way that the payments are, but I can assure you the purchase order has been approved for the 01/1968. We don't pay No, till the ballots

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I completely understand that. But what I'm saying is, we constantly are getting nitpicked about not being our funding and making sure we're spending it correctly. If I can't explain it to somebody who asked me that question, and I'm looking at it upfront, And it says we're paying $595,000 for Boulevard, Bollards, right? We just approved $3.99. A month or so ago, we approved 168.

1:49:26 – 1:49:480

But the 168 should be deducted off of this number right here. Or put somewhere where it's already been paid out. And that's not equally, it's not equaling. Because you're saying that we're gonna spend from October, it's not equaling. If we're going to pay, we bought the bollards for $168,000 You already paid for that.

1:49:48 – 1:50:253

You approved the item in July. We haven't released those funds yet. We have a purchase order and we've ordered the bollards. We haven't released those funds. They're sitting in the account. Correct. Once we get the bollards, which is sometime in between October and November, let's say it comes in, then those funds would be sent to the vendor. But right now, we haven't spent those funds. You approve them. They're sitting in the account. They get paid when the bollards are delivered, and they'll be delivered between October and November. But I can adjust the exact payment.

1:50:271

And this chart is really an illustration, Barbara Mercolare. So I I get I get what you're saying that it's

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not consistent. We have to show where

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it's just

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it's just basic More precise illustration.

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That's fine.

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And I and I'll adjust it I can see where it could be. Yes.

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That's all I'm saying.

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JULIET Definitely.

1:50:420

JULIET It looks like the ballers are paying $20,000 a month all the way till November. But it's a product that we purchased up front, it so should reflect that.

1:50:513

I'm going to put a different color in for the bollards and a different color for the construction. I think that will help.

1:50:560

And not just for that, but just bringing

1:50:583

Yes. To your We'll make sure that all the line items are reflective of materials, consulting, and construction.

1:51:05 – 1:51:581

So CRA director, just before we get to the Board of Governors, on my point about the end of the annual term of the CRA with the TIF dollars, I know that we have our budget hearing later this month. That includes CIP budget as well. And so it may be that the board needs to obligate or staff should show us that we have obligated the totality of the TIF dollars before the end of the month, because the end of the month, I believe, is the end of the TIF CRA, the fiscal year of the TIF CRA. So time may be of the essence for us either to discuss today or definitely at the budget hearing, the closeout and removing any difference between the CIP that's obligated and charted out sufficiently for the use of the TIF dollars and anything beyond that.

1:51:599

We understood that. And also to bring options for any remaining funds that might show as available so that we can get those programmed and obligated as well. Yeah.

1:52:091

All right. All right, let's go to board member Hernandez.

1:52:12 – 1:52:244

Thank you, mayor. Yeah, I have something we can spend the money on. And brought it up. And I think you guys have agreed. And Parkside residents are starting to be warmed up, as I said last commission meeting.

1:52:24 – 1:53:164

But they're ready to pull the trigger on a one way on 20th Avenue and 19th Avenue. And that would probably be a lion's share of that $1,700,000 in order to bring in either angle parking or parking on both sides of the street. I would ask the fire chief if we, at some point, could actually meet to see how much space you need for the apparatus to be able to go there so that we can incorporate that need into the design for the parking into one way. And also, I'd like to remind the board, keep in mind that not only do we have a time sensitive timing with being able to spend the money with the county, but the state is also looking to preempt for any CRA to be spending any money that you don't already have allocated for a particular project. So at some point, they're gonna be bringing back and restrict us what we can or cannot spend.

1:53:16 – 1:53:274

The $3,000,000 we're getting from the county is already earmarked for us to be able to spend. But if we don't have any projects that we're going to need that, they may be in conflict to what the state statues are coming out.

1:53:29 – 1:53:491

So with regards to the directional traffic on 20th and 19th, I mean, that's a big circulation change for the neighborhood. And so while that is a concept that if you have a we're assuming there's a big net gain of parking if we were to eliminate a lane.

1:53:49 – 1:54:304

And that will depend on the fire chief and the need for the apparatus. But I can tell you that currently, we do not meet their needs for their apparatus to be able to set up and get their outriggers out. So we're looking to see how we can correct that so we can have a safer downtown and at the same time see if we can provide the needs for the people. But currently, we have a situation where it's a two way traffic on very narrow roads and very narrow parking spaces on the side of the road. And we have had people that have actually I have had a near miss on a rainy day where people can't see where the lines are. And so that will be avoided as well.

1:54:30 – 1:55:141

All right. Well, CRE director, can you all come to budget discussion, talk about the directional traffic on 19th And 20th And Parkside, and give some general cost estimate to that, and also whether and I know that takes a little bit of an engineering analysis, too. And then, the big thing is how much parking do we gain And by doing so I know it's kind of a lot to ask for between now and the budget presentation if we want to obligate the dollars for that. It doesn't mean the idea goes away if we decide to obligate the dollars for something different while the angled parkingcirculation issue becomes an opportunity for different funds. But do you have any feedback on this? In

1:55:16 – 1:55:309

the short time that we've got between now and then to get those details, we'll do as best we can to get you some of those answers to see if it's a realistic project so that we can give some kind of future commitment to those dollars. Okay. We'll make it a priority.

1:55:30 – 1:55:534

I know that we've been working with Chris regarding that. And there had been some questions as to how much net parking we could get. And that depends on how much of an angle, whether we do 45, 70 degrees, or 30 degree angle on parking. And there was another question that came up, do we want to try to bring in back end parking so that people can pull out? I don't want to complicate things.

1:55:53 – 1:56:354

I just like to see if we can get net parking. And some of that will rely on the little area of swell that we have on both sides of the road. That may need to be utilized, whether it's with turf park, with turf block, or paved in order to be able to meet our goals. So I just want to know if the board has the support or the appetite to be able to look into something like that so the staff can actually look at it in its totality. Not just with what we currently have with paved roads, but if we need to take one of the two sides of this well, are you guys are willing to go along with that?

1:56:35 – 1:56:504

I support that. Okay, I need one more. We have support from three people, just so that you know. Only because we have the money. It is a big change for the neighborhood and the neighborhood have actually said that they're interested on doing it.

1:56:50 – 1:57:434

So if we could do something like that, it would be great. I'm looking at some of the budgets that we have here And I don't know what else we can do with that $1,700,000 aside from trying to bring more parking. I do know that the parking department is looking to bring in similar to what we've done in The Lakes when it comes to residential parking for that area in order to control some of the buildings that actually have parking in their building and do not have, get the, they don't actually park inside their building because it's more difficult so they park on the street. This would eliminate some of that abuse. It would allow each resident to have two parking spaces for their units on the street, whether it's that street or one or two on each direction.

1:57:43 – 1:58:154

And the buildings that are supposed to have their own parking spaces will be able to park in there. Also, and I'm learning more about parking than I ever thought I would. The parking department has the ability to know who's got parking in their street, in their house, in their property. And those individuals may not be able to have the guest parking for them to be able to park on the street. So this is something that is being coordinated on a per case basis, but encompassing the whole neighborhood.

1:58:15 – 1:58:414

Because they feel that there's a lot of abuse taking place for some of the buildings that actually have parking within the building, that it's just more easy for them just to park on the street and have readily access. So I thank you for your support regarding this. And I hope staff can bring something back. If nothing else, as far as what is the ability and the needs from the fire department, and the number as far as how much money we're looking into something like this. I think that will probably be

1:58:41 – 1:58:541

So George, we're looking for the informational report on this concept so that it once we have the results of the net parking gain and what have you, we can decide to go forward.

1:58:544

Correct. Yeah. We just need the information and then we'll go from there. We're not asking to do it. We're just saying bring us the information and the cost that we can actually make a decision. Thank you.

1:59:039

We'll get you as much as we can.

1:59:05 – 1:59:441

So I just had a conversation with Ray Lynn just for the board with regards to the end of this fiscal year. And because the downtown CRA is continuing as a downtown CRA for at least five years in order to obtain the county dollars, legal will look into whether or not this cliff of the TIF disappearing is just a continuation of our you know, CRA needs to spend its dollars within three years or if it's to be looked at as a final year of a CRA or not for purposes of the dollar allocation. So staff will get back to us, legal will, on that issue. So maybe we're not as pressed on time as I had feared that we would be to expend the 20,700,000.0.

1:59:44 – 2:00:024

It all depends what they call it, what it's considered Right. Versus the allocation because they may consider the TIF their money because they're giving it to us versus the allocation which they've already agreed to give. So we may very well, depending on what they consider, have $20,000,000 at stake here.

2:00:02 – 2:00:161

Yep. Okay. So let's go ahead. So do we have anyone else on downtown? If not, let's go ahead to the beach, Susan. Take it east. Cross the pedestrian walk and get us there.

2:00:19 – 2:00:553

Beach CRA. We have quite a bit of projects on the beach. Some are nearing completion. Some are under construction. Just quickly, we have the State Road A1A, which we discussed a little bit today, the Carolina Street crossing. We have phase four and all the components of phase four. We have our contributions to the pumps, the outfalls. We have an upcoming project of security bollards at the street ends of the beach, the near shore reef, potentially buoys. We have the signage. We have the turtle lighting.

2:00:56 – 2:01:243

We have the dune restoration. And this kind of gives you a snippet of which projects are in the works, which are nearing completion. And I'll go through each project individually. This is our of our Gantt chart, which is our timeline that goes through if we're in the design phase, the construction phase, permitting phase or the close out. So I'll start with the north.

2:01:24 – 2:02:153

And this is the project that, if you recall, started several years ago with DOT coming in and doing a triple r project, which allowed us to have the wider sidewalks on the West Side to be able to put the transformers for the undergrounding of the overhead utilities. We have kind of a hybrid solution on the transformers. Some transformers are actually on the sidewalk in the right of way. Other transformers, we were able to come into agreements with the private property owners to hold those transformers, allowing really a lot more space on the sidewalk for pedestrians to be able to walk comfortably. And that project, as I mentioned before, we will be according to FP and L, the overhead line should start coming down in December.

2:02:16 – 2:03:043

This is a couple of pictures of our phase four project, which is under construction. This is the work that was done upfront with putting in the storm water pipes, putting in the drainage structures and other construction. Something about the phase four, which we did not have to this extent on the phase four, is we needed to get right of way agreements with each property owner on the East West Street between Surf Road and A1A in order to be able to access their property to do the harmonization. As you know, we're raising the streets a little bit and so we need to harmonize on the private property. So this has been a project in and of itself, getting those agreements.

2:03:04 – 2:03:413

The project is under construction. We started construction back in September. We have done all the drainage improvements and what we're doing now is we will be starting raising the streets. The first street I think we're working on is on Van Buren. This is Keating Park. Keating Park is also towards the tail end of the project. This is what it looked like before. As you can see today, we have already built the pavilions. We've already renovated the bathrooms. The park pathway is in.

2:03:42 – 2:04:053

They're putting in the precast on the bathrooms right now. They still have to move the access road at Magnolia a little bit further towards the south. And we believe we'll have substantial completion for the project in October. This is the phase four A1A. We've already started doing the undergrounding of the overhead utilities.

2:04:05 – 2:04:343

This is a vision of what the project will look like, and that project already has started construction, as I mentioned, with underground starting. We continue to work with both FDOT and public utilities on the inspections of the basins. We have the pumps, the three pumps that FDOT already has under construction. They are already in the corridor. The pump adaptable drawing is complete.

2:04:35 – 2:05:103

It's in permitting. And then we have appending this kind of larger pump, which a consultant will be evaluating the efficacy of whether or not to put that pump in, versus adding more Wapro valves at the intersection. We have the nearshore artificial reef, which is also somewhat substantially complete. We're waiting, as we mentioned today, on the FDEP final approval and also the camera installation. And we have the signage which we're also about to embark upon with shop drawing review.

2:05:10 – 2:05:553

This is done in two slides. Each project and again, we'll go through here and make sure that the colors are all tweaked with the phase, but there's two slides that take this into account. Now, you'll see a deficit here, but we have, I think it's about $17,000,000 coming in, in grants. We have the coastal resiliency grant, we have the BRIC grant, we have the $750,000 grant for Keating Park and the HUD grant. So that totals approximately $17,000,000 I was right.

2:05:55 – 2:06:343

Okay. So this is the CIP with the balance and again, some of our projects come in a little bit less than, so we're kind of in the ballpark. This is what we have right now we have confirmation that we're going to be getting this grant money. So we have the Coastal Resiliency Grant, which is 12.2, the triple r reimbursement at $3.47150000 dollars on Keating Park. We have the $300,000 cost share on the traffic signal for Carolina Street, and we have the $500,000 brick grant.

2:06:421

Alright. Thank you. Susan, for the Keating Park, does the project scope include a nice new sign? Includes Signage on A1A?

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The signage on A1A for the park is part of

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signage program, a new sign.

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The way finding program or the

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The beach the new beach signage has a sign on A1A at Charno Park. We do have signage that's gonna go into into the park in the back of the bathrooms, which is the reef signage, kind of educational signage.

2:07:141

So I was talking about a sign. Because right now, it has, like, a really old small sign that people don't drive by and you probably don't know it's a park.

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There's gonna be a new a new sign

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In the median or on the on the right on the in the swale of the park?

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On the swale of the park.

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Okay. And because the project is nearing close out, as you mentioned, October and final maybe in December, is the sign going to be part of the October December time frame? Or is it on the way finding signage schedule?

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The latter.

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The latter. Well, it probably will be very, very simple to put in a two post wood with, say, a three by five or something size panel that has Keating Park. And then maybe if a more permanent sign comes in, then we I don't want it to be unidentified for

2:07:59 – 2:08:233

Right. No, we can we can definitely do that. No, the the parking lot is part of the redo of the parking lot. That's part of the phase for East West Street. So although the park will be opened in October, November, the current parking lot will still look the way it does until the contractor comes in and redoes the parking lot.

2:08:24 – 2:08:351

And then the dollars for the pumps, I know there's an opportunity perhaps to have some dollars be excess. I think it was a $13,000,000 figure?

2:08:353

Yes. That's

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When will the cost that you know to pay That's potential dollars that will either need to be allocated to the pump, remain in the pump project, or otherwise potentially be additional capital dollars for the CRA to invest elsewhere, right?

2:08:54 – 2:09:343

That's that's correct. So if there's there's a consultant to be brought up CDM Smith, who's the consultant from public utilities. So that consultant is going to look because that pump handles three basins, it's a huge pump, the estimated cost is $13,000,000 on that pump. Based upon the findings of that engineer, if they say that's the money best spent because you'll get the best results for reducing flooding and all of that, that will be come out in his report. Or he might say, you know, maybe not, but maybe do x, y, and z, and you'll get the same effectiveness and it'll be less money.

2:09:343

That will be part of his analysis. And then depending on what those funds are, then the CRA board would decide.

2:09:411

Right. Like the backflow and the outfalls, the check valves, etcetera.

2:09:451

All right. Thank you. Let's go to board member Shuham on Beach Capital. Go ahead.

2:09:51 – 2:10:192

Thank you, Susan. Well, obviously, we want to do the best that we can for our residents on making sure these areas remain in a no flood situation for as many years as possible. So we don't want to be penny wise and pound foolish. And then I was just going to ask you touch base on all of the individual agreements that you need with the private property owners. Has that been completed?

2:10:19 – 2:10:433

Not 100%. We're probably like 75%, about 75%. It took a while for everybody to get going and I think people were a bit reticent, but once the energy got going, it's been a lot easier now. And everything has to be registered with the county, so it's quite a process, but we're about 75%, 80% there.

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And then I would just say, I know that as part of the city budget, we have a master plan to look at our community centers. And to the extent that there's anything left over here, we have the Beach Community Center, which is in desperate need of a facelift. So I'm very grateful to staff that they finally kind of covered up the broken digital sign. And we just have a workable sign there now. So that's great.

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But I would like to just, on the record, you know, I don't think it would be a ton of money. But that facility needs a facelift. No matter what happens on that property going forward, we have years ahead of us with a very worn out community center. So I know that we're not showing it here, but if you work your magic and there's dollars left, I just wanted to put that out there. So thanks so much. Great work.

2:11:341

All right. Thank you so much. Let's go to board member Biederman.

2:11:40 – 2:11:525

Can we touch base on the wayfinding and monument signs? Because I don't see it in one of these columns. But we did see a slide of it. And it's like a big joke already.

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It's it's it's here. I'm going to let me see. Do you know which slide it's on? Is it on the second one or I wish I could zoom in on this. It is here.

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I wish we had wayfinding. We didn't have to talk about it anymore. And it's the smallest things that can make us happy.

2:12:18 – 2:13:053

So the city and the CRA hired this contractor. Originally, the contractor well, if you recall, there was a selection of contractors. The contractor that we were working with, both the city and the CRA, was ready to move ahead with shop drawings and samples, they got bought out by another company. So this isn't the first time we've had dealings where we've had, let's say, a consultant and a consultant gets bought out. But right now, the kind of legality, it's being reviewed by legal, this kind of like buyout of the sign company.

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As soon as we sort through those details, they'll be ready to start construction.

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And do we know when that's gonna happen?

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Have they begun fabrication?

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I'm sorry. What?

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They they began to fabricate the signs?

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No. Because we were waiting for the shop drawings.

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So So hold on. Question. Do we have a time is of the essence clause in the contract with this successful bidder?

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I think it's complicated further by the buyout of the company.

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Why so? Wouldn't there be a successor provision? I mean, the company still remains. I don't know if it was an asset purchase or a stock purchase, but either way, I mean, have they canceled our agreement or have they not canceled our agreement?

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They haven't canceled the agreement, but as I said, because of this

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And why is this the first we're hearing about this? Demeris, can

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you explain?

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Every meeting I ask about this. This buyout

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is a new it's a couple of weeks, I think.

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Mean Chair, from Demeris? Go ahead.

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So our office was looking MASTERS: into

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the buyout to determine whether or not it was simply purchasing the project or the entirety of the contractor. We had concerns regarding procurement, if it is simply a purchasing of the contract or of

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don't They get to sign our agreement.

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And they don't just get to assign our agreement without our approval, exactly. So our office I just learned about this yesterday. But our office is looking at this contract currently and trying to make sure that everything is legal as we move forward. This is not, as Susan said, this is a recent issue with the change in the contractor and the purchase. So this is not something that our office has had for an extended period.

2:14:49 – 2:15:291

We need to get to the bottom of it really quick, like in the next seven days, and decide if we need to take any action or not with regards to the agreement and get something in writing from the contractor. I don't know if there are timeline obligations, to Commissioner Beederman's point, on deliverables and whether or not they are already delayed, if there is default on the part of the contractor based on the purported assignment or any performance issues. So let's get to the bottom of everything, find out what's up, send a memo to us on the status of the agreement. When were we made aware of of any delay and is it what is being asked? Susan or anyone, George.

2:15:291

I know this is a DCM led project. Right? So Yeah. So does anyone can anyone speak for the city? Raelynn, maybe?

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So it's my understanding that this is something that came up within the last week and a half. And we're trying to work this out, where we became aware that there was a transition in the ownership of the company. And we're trying, as Damaris stated, to figure out what that exactly means. Did they sell the entire company? Did they sell aspects of the company? Are they attempting to sell just contracts that the company has? So as soon as we get that sorted out, we'll provide a full update to the commission with timelines. But we obviously had made some fairly significant headway on this. And we're hoping to have shop drawings and be in fabrication next month.

2:16:181

Were the shop drawings being prepared by a separate designer consultant? Or was it in house, sort of like a design build?

2:16:243

No. The actual sign company that we contract with, they're the ones that are gonna produce the shop drawings.

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They send us the shop drawings. The consultant, Brooks Garper, also looks at it, and that's it. Once the shop drawing is approved, they're they can go into production.

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Do we receive any shop drawings yet, like for any of the signs, or are we just waiting on the first?

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I don't I have to check with DCM.

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Does any work product also belong to us? So Damaris, when you review the agreement, find out if any work product that has been done to date, if we have grounds to terminate or if they defaulted, if there's an opportunity to not lose the benefit of any shop drawings that were prepared already, perhaps. I'm just

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Our office will look into that as well, but that's a good perspective.

2:17:101

I gotcha. All right. Let's Commissioner Beer, I'm sorry you stole the floor.

2:17:135

No, I'm good.

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right. Let's go to Board Member Collieri on Beach Capital in general, and then this, if you like.

2:17:210

So I think on the signage portion, I just am so disappointed. I mean, we have been talking about this

2:17:301

Well, since the bond.

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Prior to the bond.

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Prior to the bond.

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Prior to You're right. The And now the bond. And so is it because we went with the lowest bidder? Is that one of the problems also?

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JULIE The original company that came in was the lowest bidder. But there was also a kind of an anticipation that they would be able to use this, let's say, for the monument signs. They would be able to use that and just remove the outside part of it but leave the concrete and the steel. But then when the contractor went in and they opened up the one at Jackson Street just to see the condition, they felt that it wasn't gonna meet long term warranties and it wasn't that great structurally. So they decided they really just need to put a brand new sign in. That took a while to discover.

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But how come we didn't know about that? This is the first time hearing that too.

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No, was So I

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just think that this is note to self. Sometimes always going with the lowest bidder isn't the best. We time and time talk about this all the time. This is an expectation that not only the commission has really been gung ho about. We talk about it almost to nauseam up here about the signage. And here we are with an unknowing time frame of completion now. So it is extremely frustrating, but not just to the commission, but I think to our residents. We did community outreach. We got them involved in it. Everyone, we had so many different colors and designs.

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And you've put a lot of effort into it to no avail. And that to me is the epitome of government to the extreme. We can't have this. This is not what we expect nor this is not what our residents expect. So my request is to get back to us at our the sooner the better, whether it's via email or phone calls updating us on what the status is as far as legalities go.

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And then put a hard deadline of completion. And if not, then I really don't know what would be our next steps. But I'm gonna leave that up to staff to come up with an idea of what is our next step so we can get this

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going. JULIE Understood.

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Understood. And we will get back to you. Literally, this was less than a week ago that we found out that there was this concern. And the company wants to do the work, Whether it's the new company, the old company, they want to live up to the contractual obligations. They have begun the survey work that is needed for the shop drawings.

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And this, if you'll recall, there were multiple respondents. So if we have to, we can go down the list of respondents. But it was decided that the design build and building was a better way to guarantee the workmanship, the warranty of it, and would actually be faster. I know that sounds a little crazy at this point. But would be faster to start afresh with the cabinets in place.

2:20:49 – 2:21:0212

And so this was the second ranked firm. And they gave us a good price, but this was not a low bid type of scenario.

2:21:02 – 2:21:440

And again, can you refresh my memory? Were they local? Were they Hollywood business? Or were they out of the area? So just not to self, we really have to focus on that. I think it's so important but again, just super disappointed. We've been talking about this forever. And if there's that extra funding that we were just talking about in the CRA, whether it's downtown or beach, let's utilize for expediting and getting this, I mean, signage up. We need it. You don't know you're in Hollywood sometimes. And we need to let people know how proud we are of this city. And this is one of the projects, I think, that we definitely need to expedite. Yeah.

2:21:44 – 2:22:251

And look, sometimes, obviously, we rely on contractors to perform most of this capital work, if not all of it. And if something happens with the contractor, it's always a risk to the owner to resolve. And so let's hope that this is a little bit let's just call it that it'll continue to flow and that if they acted appropriately, I have to imagine standard language in the contract says that if there is a successor or a request for an assignment, it needs to be approved by us in writing. And maybe, hopefully, the contract contemplated whatever happened here and would give us some contractual rights to evaluate and decide how we go forward. Hopefully, there won't be much of a hiccup.

2:22:251

But definitely, there is a risk of a hiccup. So let's see all of it. Let's hear from them.

2:22:300

If we could get

2:22:311

that Board member Hernandez?

2:22:310

Where where we we were noticed. If we can include that with the information, please.

2:22:364

I have a couple questions. How much money are we talking about? How much is a contract worth?

2:22:433

It's well, it's

2:22:451

The CRA portion.

2:22:463

CRA portion, I believe for the beach, it's $3.29. And for the downtown, it's

2:22:561

And Peter, the whole bond set of signage The city's is all part of the

2:23:023

cost is much more substantial because

2:23:071

Citywide.

2:23:08 – 2:23:364

Correct. So the beach is $329,000 How much is I need to know a number here because here's what we're looking at. And what is you were talking about the lowest bidder. Sometimes it's not the lowest bidder issue, is the way that specifications are written. And now when we're finding out that part of this bid, the way it was structured, is for them to be able to reuse what was there. If they don't like what's there, now we have a change order.

2:23:361

No, Raylan is shaking her head no.

2:23:374

Okay, that's what I want to know.

2:23:39 – 2:24:0112

No, that's not the case. Initially, so there's obviously a lot of history on this. The CRA was working on a signage project. Then eventually, the city got general obligation bond funding for a signage project. So it became clear that we wanted to make sure that the signage across the city was cohesive.

2:24:01 – 2:24:3812

That was the direction of the commission. And so the CRA folded their project into the city project. Brooks and Scarpa was the architect to do that. And what we did initially was assess the existing monument signs around the city to determine what the structural integrity and the condition of them was. Because the amount of money in the city general obligation bond project was not we weren't sure that it was going to be enough to do a full replacement.

2:24:38 – 2:25:1312

And we felt that it might be more cost effective to do these cabinet type shrouds that would go over the existing foundations. And so that was one of the ways that we were pursuing a very cost effective option to get the most signage across the entire city out of the money that we had allocated in the general obligation bond. So that exploration took place. We then took that information and put it out for bid. And the signage companies came back and gave us various pricing.

2:25:14 – 2:25:5512

And the signage companies said, it will be better to simply replace the signs. It will actually cost you less to do that than to try to do this cabinet shroud over an existing foundation for warranty purposes and all of these other things. So that's when the obviously, we're also going through the outreach with the community on this and getting the basic design package from Brooks and Scarpa finalized during this period of time. That's what went to the sign companies to make their calculations. And we had negotiated that.

2:25:55 – 2:26:2712

You guys had approved this past spring the ranking and asked us to proceed. We've got the contract in place with that firm now. And then they were well on their way surveying with the idea that they would start doing the shop drawings to manufacture the signs this fall, moving into installation throughout the city and the CRA. And then the company was purchased. So we received that notification, I'm told, in the last week.

2:26:28 – 2:27:1012

Started working with legal to determine what does that mean based on how we procured this and where do we go. We are hoping to sort all of that out. And then we will be able to give you all a full report with when the time frames will be. And if at that point in time it's the desire that we feel we have some legal reason not to continue with this company and the commission perhaps doesn't want to or the CRA board, we can look at that. But I think it might be premature to make that decision. At this point, please give us an opportunity to do that research and make sure that we're giving you the best option to get this done as quickly as now possible.

2:27:104

Thank you. I'm still going to ask the same questions. How much is this contract worth? If anybody has that information. Okay, so that's one.

2:27:1912

The total of the contract is 1,800,000.0.

2:27:224

$1,800,000 Was this contract sourced based on an RFQ?

2:27:304

Okay, so the new company It

2:27:323

was an RFQ or an RFP, but yes.

2:27:33 – 2:27:544

Okay, so if it's an RFQ, the new company did not go through the vetting process in order for us to be able to be comfortable in order for us to choose that company versus the other company. So, by the way, one thing, if you guys found out a week ago and the attorney's office found out yesterday, there's a disconnect there.

2:27:5413

I found out yesterday.

2:27:554

When did your office find out? Do you know?

2:27:5713

I do not know when my office first found out.

2:28:00 – 2:28:334

Okay, because we come to the commission meeting, a CRA meeting, we have questions. And I understand that you may not know all the answers, but if it came to you a week prior to, you might have been able to have answers for this particular questions that we have. So, and by the way, years and years for the signs. If you give every association and every member of this commission the ability to pick a sign, structure, or something that they would want, you're gonna have many different ideas. So I think that what might have been presented at the time and it was voted on, it's good to go.

2:28:33 – 2:29:154

But sometimes is the way the bids are structured as to what you get for that bid. And if it came to where you're actually doing a wrap, for lack of better words, of the existing signs, I can tell you that a former city manager had an issue with some of the signs that we had at the '95 because they were hit on a perpetual basis. And there were 25,030 thousand dollars to replace to the point that they decided not to do those signs anymore because how costly it was to replace them. So six years waiting for signs. I can see why everybody's frustrated up here.

2:29:15 – 2:29:384

And I can see why the mayor says, hey, it's two posts and here's, and we're not being sarcastic. We're just saying, we want the signs to be up. The residents are looking at us like, if we rely on the rest of the city, as we rely on you for the signage, they think they're wasting their tax dollars. And this is a bond project. This is something that the money already existed to be done.

2:29:38 – 2:30:204

A reflection on you, but at the end of the day, we need to see how we can expedite this. But my suggestion is if this is an RFQ and you have a new company that went through this process and you already know what you want for the signage, that you don't want to wrap, that you want the sign to be done, it may be quicker to go out and just get a new company. And if you already have the former bidders that are there, talk to them and negotiate so we can move forward. Because otherwise, we're not going to want to get into a contract that at some point, if it becomes a hiccup for the company that just purchased this other company or acquired, it's going to say, well, I'm not going to do that because it's in the contract. So we just need to review that and go from there.

2:30:214

But I agree. I feel the frustration even though I wasn't here when this took place. I wasn't at the beginning.

2:30:261

All right. Let's go to Board Member Biederman

2:30:30 – 2:31:115

on It feels like so long ago you were probably here. I'm just curious hate to beat the dead horse, but is it possible that one of the other bidders bought the company? Like, maybe the one bidder we didn't go with bought the second company just because they were I mean, it's a big deal. I mean, but memory serves and I don't remember which company we picked in the end but I thought I was Google reviewing some of these companies and one of them didn't have a good review, if anybody remembers the situation. So I'm going to go back to the meeting because I'm curious which company we didn't pick and which company we went with for whatever reason.

2:31:111

I think one was substantially more dollars and we ended up negotiating with the second

2:31:153

MARY BROWN: Baron was the first, but we ended up negotiating with the second question With the second.

2:31:195

Right. Anyway, when you get back to us with all the information that we've been pummeling you with, can you send us the date that we did the meeting? Because I want to go back and look at that.

2:31:3012

And the letter. Yes, absolutely. We'll provide all of that information.

2:31:345

Thank you.

2:31:340

Happy to do so.

2:31:35 – 2:32:071

And let's get something in writing from the company that we have the contract with to let us know exactly from them what is going on with their performance and their supposed acquisition or not. Let's get something in writing from them, whether it's an email or a letter, so we have something in our file to know what happened, represented by them, not by a phone call or anything. Alright. That closes out questions on the beach CRA and downtown CIP overviews to be continued during the budget discussion. Thank you.

2:32:09 – 2:32:221

All right. Only item remaining on our agenda is informational reports, if any, today by the executive director, beach and downtown activities for the last month. George, anything on thirteen?

2:32:22 – 2:32:519

Well, I mean, obviously, we were going to talk about the pedestrian crossings. We had a lot of discussion about that already. And also the Capitol, we had a lot about that already. Susan and I are going to be having a series of ongoing meetings with the Hollywood Beach Business Association. That continues. And just to tell you that, obviously, we've got our homework cut out for us in terms of getting you as much information as we can for the budget hearing on the twenty fifth. Yep.

2:32:51 – 2:33:021

Okay. Thank you. Let's go ahead to it is about 11:30. Let's go to comments by the board members, general counsel executive director to finish up the meeting. Vice chair Quintana.

2:33:033

I'll waive.

2:33:051

Board member Shuham. Board member Hernandez.

2:33:10 – 2:33:494

Thank you, mayor. Just for information purposes, I believe that the construction or the repaving of the lot in downtown has already started. It started today. They're supposed to be for two weeks. And hopefully, we'll have that available for the general use shortly after that. Thank And one of the things that came about on what's taking place on 20th Avenue by The States, there's no trees being planted. Is there any by this, the sidewalks that we talked about, the streetscape that we talked about that has no trees. Is there any feature shade being contemplated for the people that walk into downtown?

2:33:491

I think the sidewalk of that segment between Harrison And Alley at It has February a canopy

2:33:551

Super narrow.

2:33:564

Correct.

2:33:561

So there's probably no room for a tree. I mean, love

2:33:594

No, no, I'm not talking about trees. I'm saying if there's any canopies or any features that they may think about, just food for thought. Yeah. If you don't mind. That's it. Thank you.

2:34:081

Alright. Board member Kaleri, wave. Wave. Board member Gruber? Wave. Board member Biederen?

2:34:158

Waiting.

2:34:17 – 2:34:421

For myself, just for the benefit of the board, if staff could email us a status update on the large projects downtown. I know that Block 58, Hollywood Red Building received a temporary certificate of occupancy. Let us know what the status is on Walgreens. REV, what the anticipated opening for REV is. La Piazza, I'd love to know when they contemplate mobilization for construction.

2:34:42 – 2:35:051

Just if you can give us a general update on active projects and any anticipated openings or completions of the projects, even if it's just timelines provided by the owners. It would be just great to have a bird's eye view of things that are underway downtown and when we can expect them to get online. And that's it. General Counsel?

2:35:0613

No comments today. Thank you.

2:35:071

Executive Director?

2:35:099

No additional comments. Thank you.

2:35:111

All right. Thank you all. This meeting is adjourned, and we will see you at 1PM for the city commission meeting.

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