City Council - Regular Meeting

Monday, May 4, 2026
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Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Muncie, IN
Meeting Date
May 4, 2026

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91 sections (from 372 segments)

0:04 – 0:410

Good evening and welcome to the May sec 4th 2026 my common council meeting and we're to stand for the pledge of allegiance [clears throat] which will be led tonight by Courtney Marsh. Courtney would you lead us in the pledge? Yes to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

0:42 – 1:130

Then we're going to have an invitation. Mintosh. Glory be to you, God. We come before you right now giving you the praise and the glory. Father God, we just thank you for this opportunity to come come before you once again for the month my common council and all those who are in audience. Father God, we ask that you would open all minds and hearts for the business that and transactions that may come forth. It's in Jesus name that we pray. Amen. Amen. Can I say something good?

1:11 – 1:570

Could we please remain standing? We lost a uh a pillar to community is is kind of I'd say underplaying what Mike White did um for our community. I've known him since I was a kid. Served numerous turns on the MITs bus. Um he was just a phenomenal person. Um knew numbers better than anybody I've I I've ever seen and uh or known. And I would just like to uh ask for a numeral silence for uh Thank you. And I know Mark appreciates that. Thank you.

2:02 – 2:470

There's no way I wouldn't be able to do it. Citizen recognition will be postponed until next month. That brings us to roll call, please. Mr. Macintosh, present. Mr. Basham, here. Mr. Mason, here. Mr. Dishman, present. Mr. Garrett, present. Miss here. Mission here. Miss here. President Green present. We have the approval of minutes. We have a motion to accept minutes. So moved. I'll second that. We have a motion and a second. Roll call. Mr. Yes. Yes. Yes.

2:47 – 3:000

Yes. Mr. Yes. Mr. Bash. Yes. Mr. Dish. Yes. Mr. Mason. Yes. Mr. Green. President Green. Yes.

2:58 – 3:410

Motion carried. Brings us to appointments of boards and commissions. The first one that we're looking at this evening is Beach Grove Cemetery Board. We have one whose term uh is up and needs to be reinstated and then we have if we chose choose to do so and then we have uh two other openings tonight. So, do we have any nominations for those positions this evening? Mr. President, I would May I Yes. I would like to nominate Miss uh Mrs. Pam Ivy. Okay. Are there any others?

3:40 – 4:150

Mr. President, I'd like to nominate Ron White. I'll second that. Did we have a second on Pam Ivy? No, I did. You did? Second on Mr. White and Mr. White also. Yeah. Okay. Did you Did you both Pam Ivy and No. No. Okay. Okay. I did. Okay. [snorts] Are there any other nominations, [clears throat] Mr. President? Yes.

4:10 – 4:520

Um um that other board member whose term has expired, Superintendent Waters is here. Um that other person's is Zach Bow. Do you have any comments on his reappoint, Mr. Waters? Yes. I was going to recommend that if you didn't mention it to reappoint Zach. Uh Zach is I think he's still current president of the historic Society and uh he's been on the board and he serves as your treasurer currently. Is that right? Excuse me. And he serves as your treasurer currently. Yeah. Okay.

4:50 – 5:350

Now he's kind of serving a few others until we get up on the board. Gotcha. uh he was on there when I hired in and I just recommend it gets ripped when Zach's here if you want to hear anything from him. Clarification. Um so we Zach's term hasn't expired yet. Correct. It did. It has or has not. Uh do what? It has or has not? It has. March 31st. the the board terms what every year the years vary but they they go from April the 1st till March the 31st. Okay. So we have need of three. Okay.

5:32 – 6:010

I make a motion uh that we I nominate Sacko and I'll sorry I'll second that. Yes. Thank you. You're welcome. Are there any other nominations? What can I ask which ones we had? Was it three? We have three currently. Uh Pam Ivy, uh Ron White, Ron White, and Zack Bo. Okay.

5:59 – 6:440

Uh I do have one that I would like to nominate and that's Jerry Shanner. Jerry is a dire funeral director at Parson's Mortuary and I believe he would be uh an asset to the Beach Grove uh if he was appointed to that board. Say his name again. Jerry Shanner. He's one of the directors at Parson's Mortuary. And out of out of all the names I've heard you say tonight, I think all of them would be good choices. Okay. Thank you for Mr. President. More importantly, are they all they are they all uh property owners? uh if you will lot owners I mean [clears throat]

6:44 – 7:270

there's one I'm sure he is but I didn't didn't hear the name till tonight but I'm sure he is I mean his mom and his family and you good thought he was but uh so they all should be property owners Jerry Jerry's uh got hit him and his families [clears throat] him they've got had theirs there for And uh Ron, he's got some over by his mom and them. So, and Zach, he's got his. So, every this will make everybody uh mention tonight that lot owners has paid for that's had him for years.

7:25 – 7:550

Okay. I I have something. I just got a message that the I believe the doors are locked. So, could we make sure that uh everybody coming in a little late or you know might have to work or whatever that we make sure that those doors are open where they can get in, please. Uh that's super important. Thank you. Yes. Okay. Sorry. I just want to make sure that they get in. I mean, yes. Yes. Thank you. Any other questions?

7:580

Okay. Do I have a second for Jerry Shanner?

8:08 – 8:530

Okay. No second. Then we have three nominations and uh I guess it's time for any questions. Anybody have any questions? Can we make sure that we get the Can we get one more roll call on the the names that were that are nominated, please? Ron White. Yeah. Pam Ivy and Zach both. Okay. Thank you. And we need the three positions filled. So it would be acclamation. Yeah. Just those three. So roll call. Mr. Garrett. Yes. Mr. Dishman. Yes. Miss. Yes. Mr. Mason. Yes. Mr. Pal.

8:53 – 9:130

Yes. Mr. Macintosh. Yes. Mr. Bash. Yes. Ivy Bow and White. Correct. Okay. Yes. President Green. Yes. One for all three. Yeah, that's fine.

9:19 – 9:380

Next, we come to the community center development advisory board. We need a member of the council to be appointed. So, we need a nomination for that position. Mr. President, I'd like to nominate William Macintosh. I'll second that. Sorry.

9:41 – 10:110

Have any others? No other nominations? Okay. Roll call. Mr. Bishman. Yes. Missing? Yes. Mr. Macintosh? Yes. Mr. Mason? Yes. Miss? Yes. Mr. Garrett? Yes. Yes. Yes. Green? Yes.

10:16 – 10:550

This brings us to the MITs board. We have one opening. uh to fill for Mike White who passed away. Uh we [clears throat] have three individuals that have expressed an interest that I know of. Um it would be nice to to have if you're interested in a in a board uh to be appointed to one, it'd be nice to have you send those things in ahead of time as opposed to last minute. It's it's hard for everyone to make a decision uh when it's done that way.

10:53 – 11:350

Um I do have three that I'm going to mention the names because I have talked with these individuals. Uh Jeff Hagar, he mentioned tonight he was interested. Carlos Taylor, he's served before on the board. Uh he's interested again. And Nate Carroll also. And I don't know if there are others, but uh we'll have to have someone nominate these individuals or if you have others, but these are the ones that I received and I wanted to mention that to everybody. So, we open this up for nomination for this position. I do have a question. Yes.

11:32 – 11:500

Um, could you tell me if some more requirements does that person everybody on the mids board has to live within city limits in my Okay. And everybody on that list lives correct? Yes. Okay.

11:53 – 12:350

So, do we have nominations for this position? Mr. President, I'd like to nominate Carlos Taylor. I'll second. Quick. Any others? Mr. President? Yes. Um, I'd like to nominate Nate Carol. We have a second. I'll second that. Okay. Got a second. [clears throat and cough] Any others? Now, would either one of these like to speak concerning uh why they'd like to be on the board this evening?

12:360

Mr. Taylor is on.

12:40 – 13:460

Uh good evening, council. Uh my name is Carlos Taylor. I'm a resident here in Muny, Indiana. I've served on the MITS board um previously um as an appointed um member by the mayor. Um so I have uh knowledge of the board um knowledge of [snorts] um the staff uh being a blind individual. Um I've also um brought concerns from the disability community as well as uh several uh even those without disabilities of course rely on MITs but especially those who do have disabilities and rely on MITs to get to and from whether it's work, school, um medical appointments, etc. So, um, and I know just a side note, in my previous experience with the board, um, in, uh, our chairman, uh, White, Mike White's absence, I do have experience with, uh, running meetings as well. So, um, I do believe I would be a good candidate for those in this.

13:450

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. T.

13:47 – 14:400

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hi, I'm Nate Carroll. Um, I work at J Construction. I do sales and estimating and project management. Um, I am president of the Muny Homebuilders. I am also vice president of the Muny Planning Commission or Delver County Planning Commission. Um, I am CAP certified, so certified agent in place specialist, which is in the um, construction field. I'm not trying to say I know more about ADA than Carlos does, but I at least have some education in the background. I've dealt with budgets. I've been uh like I said the president of um my homebuilders and on several different boards. So that's my experience. Uh would just like to have some positive views and direction for the MITs board. Okay.

14:39 – 15:210

Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. Any questions from council? as we as your name is called um in the roll call mentioned Mr. Carol or Mr. Taylor. Okay. Roll call, please. Mr. Mason Taylor. Mr. Garrett. Taylor. Mr. Dishman. Carol. Mr. Bash. Carol. Mr. Macintosh Taylor Miss Gillian Taylor

15:23 – 15:340

Carol Miss Pal Mr. Taylor President Green Mr. Carol

15:41 – 16:250

Congratulations. Congratulations. Okay, moving on. Committee reports. Having none, no ordinances previously introduced, no or new ordinances. U we do have resolutions. Resolution 726. Resolution 7-26, a resolution recognizing May 2026 as a mothropic lateral sclerosis awareness month. We have a motion to adopt.

16:24 – 17:010

Motion to adopt. I'll second. Anyone wishing to speak on this resolution? Anything to say? Okay. Roll call. Yes. Yes. Mr. Yes. Yes. Mr. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. President. Yes. Thank you, council. No. Thank you.

17:02 – 17:170

M Mr. President. Um, Councilwoman, would you care to say more about the resolution that we just passed? I I would love it if you would.

17:14 – 17:570

Um, I will I will try. Um, my late stepfather, Jerry Thornberg, passed away 20 years ago this year of ALS. Um, I had a constituent reach out to me and they also have ALS and they asked me to uh sponsor this ordinance and it was a no-brainer. Um, ALS is a cruel disease like all neurological diseases. It it leaves the mind intact and and the the the family and loved ones get to watch the the patient become debilitated over a short time. Um, I appreciate all of your support. Thank you. Thank you.

18:01 – 18:310

Table resolution. Any action on 426? Seeing and hearing none brings us to public comment. I'd like to remind council it is public comment. Let the council listen. Let the public speak. So, first person, you have three minutes. Mr. Paul Partano.

18:40 – 19:170

Good evening everyone. Um, I want to start off with my name is Paul Partardisanna and I'm from Muny. And I want to start off with um thanking council person Garrett for his action on um inquiring into the former Borg Warner site. And if you know all goes well, we'll have good news in June or at least encouraging news in June. So, we're hoping for that. And thank you, uh Paul. Thank you. You're the one that that keeps the the conversation going. So, it's it's it's you deserve the thank. So, I I appreciate the conversation we have back and forth.

19:16 – 19:590

All right. Well, you're most welcome and um that's going to benefit everybody. And I just want to say remember everyone, I'm probably preaching to the choir in this room, but tomorrow is primary election day. There are contested races on both sides. And I'm not jealous of much in my life, but I will jealously guard my freedoms, and I hope you will, too. And um the last thing I want to say is um may we all continue to get better than who we already are. Okay. Thank you. Exactly. Mr. Rick answer [snorts] [clears throat]

20:01 – 20:190

Rick Yanser, newsman and author. Uh, we've reached a milestone here. Uh it's the first time in my time in my lifetime I got on the website of the newspaper today and they had no mention of the election today.

20:17 – 21:120

That still tells me the power and the money of this community don't want us to know anything. And the uh what the radio oh Fox News network they haven't said anything either. So I would tell people that you need to participate because if you don't you never know what'll happen next. Couple things I've got um on the agenda here. Well, it's not on the agenda, but it was on another agenda that whatever we're building over here that we've already spent 2 million on utilities, um property manager from Miami, I think Williams uh property that's been gobbling up the property, about 300 um apartments, half a dozen buildings around town. We still don't know who or what that property management group is because they operate in like four or five states.

21:09 – 21:550

Uh they're going to develop this. Um and we're still trying to figure out why they got ready money right out of the gate and we still can't get a copy of the public record. I think as members of council, you need to start thinking about uh what the redevelopment commission is doing as far as turning this government into real estate business. And we can't do that. We have to do streets, parks, public safety. That's what government's about. It's not about buying and selling property, which I've seen nonstop here lately. Uh the other thing we wanted to mention too about taxes because we've got a lot of noise on some of our social media that assessments have gone skyhigh for some odd reason.

21:53 – 22:380

And thank God that we don't have the same assessor after 20 years running again. But in the meantime, we're still paying more. And in the meantime, this government, city government, is giving public money to not forprofits that don't pay taxes. And I wonder why that is because there are foundations here. A couple named ball, a couple name community. They give millions out for these charities and these not for profits. Why are we putting public money into nonprofits when we need again streets, parks, and public safety? So again, in the month of May, that's all I've got to say. Thank you. Thank you,

22:39 – 23:190

Miss Courtney Marsh. Good evening, city council. Sorry. My name is Courtney. Uh I am your president for the Southside Neighborhood Association. Uh but tonight I come to you with a couple of bits of information for the city as a whole. Um over the next couple of weekends and including last weekend, a lot of our neighborhoods are getting together to do cleanups.

23:17 – 24:590

Um in order for those cleanups to be productive, we need volunteers. Um this next weekend, if any of you are available, Normal City, Morningside, McKinley, and the Old West End right over here are all doing theirs. They usually start about 7:45 a.m. and they usually end around 11:30. the weekend following, which is May 16th, you can join Whitley, Southside, East Central, or Grandville. Again, they all usually start about 7:45 in the morning. They all have different meeting locations, so you'll want to check that out. Um, you can get that information on the Monty Action Plans uh Facebook page or any of the neighborhood associations Facebook pages. Um, I know that ours, as well as many others, have created cute little flyers that kind of get everybody's attention to try to get everybody out. Um last weekend, unfortunately, one of those neighborhoods did not get the cleanup that they truly probably well deserved um because there weren't enough volunteers. And that's m that's just highly unfortunate for not only that neighborhood, but for a great bit of the city. Um so I'm here today not only to help our neighborhood cleanup, which we would invite you to join us, um but get out and join any of these one additional face, two extra hands. It makes a huge difference. It really does. Um and just sometimes your face there makes a huge difference. So, um please feel free to do that. Um another thing that I wanted to mention to you all is more just southside news. Um if anybody's been by Tuli Park here recently, you'll see that the amazing mural, and I say that because I've worked on it for a while, um is completely finished now.

24:57 – 26:020

Um please take a stroll around, check it out, see all the characters. They're really cute. Uh you can pick your favorite. I'll have my own. Um but we are doing a ribbon cutting ceremony and that will be held on May the 26th at 6 p.m. It's a combination. So it's going to be a game night. We'll have pizza. We're going to actually do a ribbon cutting. Uh we're going to send out some special invitations, but this is your special invitation tonight. Me being here just to let you know all about it. Um if you're more interested and you want to find out more, follow us on our Facebook page. We've posted the flyer. will obviously uh continue to update people and let them know when that's happening. Um we just want everybody to come out to the park and enjoy it, have a good time um at that place and time. You will be asked if you do join us what your favorite animal is and why it's your favorite animal. So if you want a sneak peek, drive by there beforehand. If you want to be surprised, just show up that night. Um it's that simple. Uh we'll have pizza, we'll have fun games. Uh we're going to invite our new mural into this side of town and uh we're just gonna have a good time. So we invite you all to be there.

26:01 – 26:440

Thank you. You're very welcome. Have a great night. Mr. Troy Waters, Troy Waters. Um, I just want to I was going to try to get on the agenda in Denton. We have uh some volunteer opportunities at Beach Road Cemetery uh open. Uh the person will be uh putting flags out for on all the veterans graves.

26:41 – 27:230

Um we're going to start that around May the 16th. We can do it a little bit before someone wanted to. Uh we welcome groups, individuals, anybody that's uh wants to come out and walk around and anything that identifies them as been a veteran, they get a flag. We let the Boy Scouts, Troop 22, they'll do all the American Legion graves and it's just the normal family graves that might have a emblem or something on their headstone. And there's 50,000 headstones out there. So more people we got, the better it is. And

27:21 – 29:060

it usually turns out real good. We get uh some large groups, local businesses and everything, but we also get individuals that just want to come out and help. And then the second one, uh we've got a lot of broken headstones. Uh a lot of headstones need clean, especially the historic ones. So I'm trying to form a volunteer group uh that would want to come in and meet one Saturday out of every four to six weeks and work four, six hours a day on that day. That way you don't get burned out coming in every week or two to do them and uh cleaning and repairing the historic headstones. And I don't I think it's on our website already. If not, and some of you might have already got the email on. been emailing it out there to different people to where you can sign up to do that or if you know it just forward the information to people and see if we can get people that want to get involved and help. And now I want to mention something that's been on my mind for a few months and I want to this is not workrelated so I want to take my job off this this just as a citizen coming up here uh something for you guys think about I'd like to ask all of you to think about [clears throat] uh open up security where everybody has to go through the whatever you call it security check just like you would if just coming to court. No electronic devices, no pocket knives, no just like he was if you was going to court. I mean, there's a lot of crazy

29:06 – 29:540

crazy stuff going on in this, not just Indiana, but the country right now, but here in Indiana. I mean, hitting close to home. We've had a council members getting shot at in Indianapolis. A judge getting shot. Another area sheriff shot a judge. And we don't know. I mean, I could be standing here right now and you don't know what I got with me. They're making guns that look like cell phones now. I mean, they pulled up and you can unfold them and and shoot. But I think that I would like ask the council to consider that. And I'm included myself on that. You know, I'm sure I can come in here for a few hours without my cell phone or in anything but my car keys, you know.

29:51 – 30:360

Thank you. Appreciate that. I do have a question I want to ask you. Okay. You mentioned the 16th, but you didn't say the time. Uh putting out flags. I will uh negotiate the time and I will meet people myself. Okay. On the weekends and the evenings. All right. And that's normally how we do it. I just make myself available and if someone wants to come at 6:00 in the evening, I'll be there. If they want to come at 6 o'clock in the morning, I'll be there. Okay. Thank you. and uh we'll do that and we'll probably do it up until the 23rd and that'll be the Saturday, the first Memorial [clears throat] Day. Thank you. You're welcome. So, the times are flexible. On the other one, we'll schedule times once we get enough people to do a group.

30:360

Thank you. All right. Thank you,

30:39 – 31:280

Mr. Wilbury. Well, I would like to admonish the council president because he told you guys that you couldn't answer questions from the citizens, but then one just stood here and the council president was able to communicate with him. So, I would like to say shame on you, Council President Green, for doing that. Or what I would like to say is grow up and realize that you're all elected officials. These people are your employers and you will answer us. And if you don't, shame on you again.

31:260

Uh yeah, put security out there. I don't think you can stop me or anyone else coming through here with a a cellular device

31:33 – 33:330

or recording device. That would be a problem. The other issue is that my seal up there says 1865. We've been conducting some form of city council meeting, I would assume, since around that time. Can we figure out how to keep the doors unlocked? People shouldn't have to get here at 6:30 to come into the meetings. I don't know why that's been a problem for the last several months. Um, [clears throat] also at the end of the last meeting, um, I brought up the crisis center and, uh, I talked too long trying [snorts] to understand why councelor Basham can't email, but, uh, I didn't get to go into further conversation about that. However, councelor Powell came down afterwards and asked what I wanted to see or what what my issue was with that. And I spoke to her about that. She said that something along the lines of she would try to get in contact with the mayor and have him come in and give a presentation or whatnot. Of course, since then, we've all heard that his big passion project during the re-election bid of 20 2023 uh is no longer a big passion project. Now, we can shut the doors and continue paying for it for, you know, good amount of time, but we'll give it to somebody else. And uh you know, I'm just really sad that we've been through this council meeting where we've not had any business, but nobody up here has asked any questions about that. You guys are supposed to be the last line of defense for the citizens. You guys are supposed to be uh in check with this. I haven't heard any of you up here ask any questions or pose any questions to the And maybe you're doing it behind the scenes, but I I don't care what you're doing behind the scenes. I care what you're doing here in these meetings. Nobody's asking anything about this craziness with the park employees and the parks department and uh the uh

33:31 – 34:130

horrible report and the from the state board of accounts. Um you guys are doing the bare minimum of your jobs. No, we're not bare minimum. I you I some of you probably aren't. But you can't say that. You guys okay? You all right? passing notes back and forth, whatever. Watching your time, sir. Okay. And your time is up. Thank you. It is. Yes, it is. Three minutes. Thank you. Can't wait till your time's up, sir. Thank you, Miss Elizabeth Edel.

34:09 – 34:250

Hi, I'm Elizabeth Edgel, and it's great that I came after Chris because I'm going to talk about the same thing. The mayor had a deal with our nonprofits in early 2020 about the crisis center. Did you know that?

34:23 – 36:210

Um it was called a behavioral center then though. And um this deal included open door in the myy mission and the mayor's administration that you guys all put $2 million for ARP plan voted on by council to build an inpatient treatment facility. That's how it's listed in the ARP plan. And instead of that happening, he took his agenda for the crisis center and he transferred it and he kept changing it along the lines and um and then he got the mission what they needed originally in 2020 before the pandemic ever happened by the way. And but see the problem is is when you use public funds from the federal government to build a a a facility, what happens is that facility is expected to have a 15 to 20 year lifetime. And when it doesn't, the federal government wants to know why. They want to know why you sold it for a dollar and a property exchange on top of that. The property exchange that he's going to go ahead and throw at y'all later for a community center, by the way. Just letting you know that. Um that property exchange and that dollar sale that he did is against the law as far as how it goes with ARP funds. And so I'm going to do something here that the mayor never does. I'm going to be transparent in what I'm getting ready to do. And what I'm getting ready to do is I'm going to report this to the US Department of Treasury Inspector General, the Pandemic Response Accountability Committee, the Government Accountability Office for Fraud, and the Attorney General and the State Board of Accounts who are already sniffing around as you all know. I'm done with this administration promising stuff and using it to further their agenda. I'm done with them circumventing your council and having board of works approve things which also can't do. Can't have an administrative board approve something the council should have done. All right. So, this took me about two weeks of

36:18 – 37:080

research to come up with and I'm nobody. I went to a city meeting in Aenddale where I live, you know, where 31% of the community in Aenddale are hit by drug addiction as opposed to 19% of the rest of the city where we have the most police activity there. We're even overwhely in that area. Did you know that? And I asked the mayor, "Where's our treatment center? What are you going to do for that?" "Oh, we have no plans for that." My brother died waiting on treatment in this county. He could have picked anything else to come back on, but this one I'm going to stand for. So, I'm going to let you know what I'm getting ready to do because I believe in transparency and you have to you have to be the change you want to see in the world, right?

37:04 – 37:240

Thank you, Miss Lynn Thornberg. I don't want to talk. Okay. Thank you, Miss [clears throat] Mr. Norman Hawkins. [snorts]

37:28 – 38:100

Good evening, council. Come to uh complain about the food giveaway at uh Lane and Kirby and the parking. I think the parking should be done on uh Kirby Avenue going west toward uh Madison. But yet still they block a park on Lane Street and there's only what two lanes traffic. Kirby's much wider. Yes. M

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and when I I got a handicap sign, they're blocking my driveway. They're taking my parking space. And then when just because they have a handicap sign, they say they're entitled to park in my handicap spot, but that handicap spot is assigned to my vehicles, not theirs. And then when I go out and say something to them, it's a big argument. Called police, nothing's been done. I need the council to get with chariots of fire and have the traffic redirected to Kirby Avenue. And also I need some information on how I can get uh sidewalk fix for rental property I own.

38:56 – 39:340

Nobody know Mr. President, can we ask what district that's in where he is? Can we talk with you right after the meeting, sir? Would that be Did you say rental property of yours? Yes. And the sidewalk that needs to be fixed? Yes. Is it in front of the rental property? Yes. Um have you contacted uh the street department, let them know about the sidewalk or anything? Thank everybody. Okay. Uh when we get done, let's me and you, we'll have a conversation. I'll give you my phone number and we'll see if we can't come up with something to to to try to help you with that sidewalk. Is that all right? All right. All right. I'll meet you right back there. Okay.

39:31 – 40:040

All right. Miss Campbell. Mr. Campbell. Miss Campbell. Thank you. I apologize. I couldn't pronounce your first name correctly. Um, good evening council members. My name is Padre Campbell and I am a resident of my Indiana. I am here because for 69 days, my children and I have been forced to live without running water.

40:02 – 41:530

This is an illegal self-help eviction by the Muny Housing Authority, specifically overseen by CEO Curtis Goodwin. For over two months, a taxpayer funded agency has denied my family a basic human necessity violating Indiana Code 32-31-5-6. I have contacted every local agency, the health department, code enforcement, the trustes office, legal aid, etc., only to be told this is a human rights issue and um repeatedly sent away. Um if this is a human rights issue, why is it happening in Muny, Indiana? My children are now sick uh sick because of this. We cannot bathe, flush toilets, or cook. We have been forced to carry jugs of water for survival for 69 days. The [snorts] Muny Housing Authority has failed its federal duty to provide safe, habitable housing. I am no longer just asking for the water to be turned on. This unit is uninhabitable and toxic to my children's health. I am here tonight to demand um I'm sorry. Immediate emergency relocation. I want my family moved to a safe, clean, and functional unit tonight. Full compensation under Indiana any other law. The MHA [clears throat] owes $100 per day penalty, which is $6,900 as of this moment, plus damages for my children's medical suffering. Accountability. I want the MHA board, including chair Jeffrey Brandon and Vice Chair Wat L Watasha um Barnes Griffin, to explain why they're allowing their management to break state law and endanger my families. I am tired of being sent off. I want to know right now which one of you is going to take responsibility for the health of my children. We need a safe place to sleep tonight with running water. Thank you.

41:500

Thank you. [applause]

41:56 – 42:340

We have a minimal housing code. That minimal housing code state is base level. We build from that minimal housing code. Running water is is top of the line. Uh 69 one day is bad. uh what you've had to deal with is terrible. Um please meet me after the meeting, too. Um that's just un that we that's unacceptable. And I'm not trying to to blow smoke or nothing. That's unacceptable. We have a minimal housing code. We have these people on boards that are supposed to do this. This is wrong. Flat out wrong. I'll meet I'll meet with you as well.

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Yeah. Please meet me at me and Mr. Mason back here. This is flat out wrong. You should not have to do that. I apologize for you and your children. Um, we will make sure that with us working together, we get this resolved for you. Thank you, Mr. Zayn Bishop.

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Good evening. Uh, Zay Bishop here to discuss the University Avenue ordinance that was left tabled. Um curious uh since this ordin that ordinance was introduced over 6 months ago, have any counselors biked along the corridor?

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Um okay. I'm curious were have any counselors had issues parking along any of the side or parallel streets since the ordinance was introduced? curious if any blocks were shown to have no parking availability. Um I think if the concern was parking availability, you know, there's plenty of streets in the area that don't currently allow parking that could. I know that was part of the effort that was brought by Ball State and the city when the ordinance was being discussed. Um, and also I've I've reviewed the the maps published by the neighborhood. I didn't see any correlation between home ownership rates and street parking availability. There's plenty of streets with

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bless you. Parking that are majority rentals and vice versa.

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This project has been in the works for more than a decade. I used to be a part of the neighborhood. Um sat in on meetings where the previous administration told us that you know this project was coming, parking would be removed. Um but it was necessary for a safe, comfortable and convenient uh connection between campus and downtown. Um, also curious, I mean, this this project is supported by my action plan, the Delaware County uh, comprehensive plan, the strate strategic investment plan, Ball State's own uh, kind of master planning processes. I'm not entirely sure the purpose of having all these democratic processes. if a few people can, you know, come to council and, you know, I understand there's lots of concerns with rent renters in the neighborhood. Um, I mean, I think you if you drive university now, you see that the parking's available because a lot of the parking is being used by by student renters. Um, you know, if there's a huge de democratic system to get all these plans in place in the first place, then why can it be shut down when it actually comes to fruition uh 10 years later? The National Association of City Transportation Officials recommends bike lanes for any street with more than 1500 daily average traffic. Um, universities around 5,000. We named our a music series after the three trails in Muny, but one of the trails hasn't even been built. Any street in Muny is safe to drive on. Cannot say the same if you are biking or walking.

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Thank you. Thank you,

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Mr. Waynecape. First of all, hats off to you, Brandon Garrett, for speaking up, man. I I appreciate that. And not looking toward the president to see if you can speak. So, hats off to you, man, for doing that. And um uh I wanted to bring this up in the February meeting because you guys were doing a lot of boards and point appointments to boards and commissions and I decided to wait and see what was going to happen. But uh my comment is why aren't I seeing any more black people put on these boards? We have a big problem, the council and the mayor. And we all know there's levels to these boards. Some are more important than others, but if you look at the upper echelon of the boards, there's no black people. Between the council and the mayor's office and you know, redevelopment commission, border works, sanitary board, you got one black person on that. But you look at all these unsafe building, you look at all these boards and we're not seeing a lot of black people. Now, I've been coming to these meetings long enough that when you guys talk about economic development and attracting people, they look at who's, you know, if if if it's a a black family wanted to move here

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and they look watch these meetings and they don't see no black representation, you think they going to come here? I mean, y'all y'all brought this up before about them watching these meetings and then uh even the city's Facebook page. You look at the city's Facebook page. If a black couple wanted to move here and they look at that city's Facebook fa Facebook page, one black person in that whole picture, about 25 people. We need to do better. I mean, and and the problem is y'all find one good black person. And I'm just going to be be blunt. You find one good black person and keep regurgitating that person.

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Or one black person leave and say, "Oh, we got to place a black replace them with another black person. Why not when a white person leave, replace them with a black person?" But I'm speaking to you council and especially the mayor. So, we need to do betters on these boards and commissions. Thank you. Oh, and one more thing. you haven't been keeping time good because I know one guy spoke a lot longer than Bilbury and you cut him off so you got to do better. Thank you, [applause]

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Mr. Cooper Archer. [clears throat] Hi there. My name is Cooper. I just wanted to speak a little bit about something that was announced uh just last month by Mike Braun. It's known as the Iron Nation Indiana initiative. And what this is, it's an initiative that would partner state of Indiana with companies and tech startups coming out of Israel. And that's be using $15 million of our tax money to fund these companies to bring them here so they can use our labor to fund their war machine. Um, and this is on top, these $15 million is on top of a already $100 million of Israel bonds owned by the state of Indiana. Um, and I mean, we can talk for hours about the war crimes that the state of Israel has committed. Uh, but even besides all that, these are just unound investments. I mean, this the state of Israel currently engaged in a war on three different fronts in Lebanon, in Gaza, in Iran, uh, and failing in all these fronts. ironically. Um, and you know, on top of this, they're dragging the United States into these wars. Um, and our people are dying. Uh, you know, it's looking like it's only going to be only going to escalate. And we get nothing from this. It's all to protect, you know, uh, oil investments to try to do regime change um, for nothing other than to, you know, line the pockets of the rich. Um, and I I mean, I stand against that. But, you know, Israel, largest perpetrator of terror in the world today. Uh again, war on three fronts, genocidal war on all three fronts in Iran. Uh struck struck a children's school, killing 160 people in Gaza for over three year over two years now. Over 70,000 at least confirmed dead. Uh most of which are children and women. [clears throat] Not to mention that there are no uh universities in

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Gaza anymore. That this this uh pattern of civilian targeting civilian infrastructure has continued in Iran. They've targeted universities as well as hospitals. And you know, I just ask that you all take, you know, a very large, very public stand against, you know, in the state of Indiana partnering with the state of Israel, uh, because that is unacceptable. It's inhumane. Um, it's a waste of money. Um, and yeah, thank you. Thank you, [applause]

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Miss Janetta Presley. Hi, I'm Janetta [clears throat] Presley and I live here in Muny. I'm coming to you tonight over the H Street corridor. So, H Street is going to be paved and that's great. Um, from Huait to um I believe it's Port Perkins. Yeah. Perkins. Is it Perkins?

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Perkins. Okay. To Perkins. And that's great. We want that. And they want to put a divider in the in the what? Yeah. Yeah. $500,000 divider. I'm okay with that. The divider is fine. But when you get to um from Hoit to Samson, it's really wide. But when you go from Samson to Perkins where I live in the area that I live, it's narrow because we have parking on the side of the street where all the houses are. The other side of the street is where the Chevy plant is.

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So if you narrow that down there, then it takes away our parking. We had a meeting with the mayor about it and um at the common market uh last week

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and um you know he kind of was back and forth about about it. But the the problem is if you're going to take our parking away, great, take it. But you need to be able to use the alley to um to park. And so that means come wintertime it'll have to somebody will have to be the city's going to have to remove um snow so that we can get in we can get in and out um of there. And there are um three owned houses, two rentals there. Three the three owned houses are all disabled people. So, they have handicap parking in front of each house. Now, they've taken those signs all down when they did the um gas lines and they haven't put them back up and the mayor said probably won't put them back up until they do the paving, which is going to be happening this year. So, my thing is is if you take away our parking and if you narrow it down there and put the um center section in, then you will take away our parking and then you take away the parking. We have two families that are hospice families. So, where will our nurses and our people that come out to work with us park at? especially if we have to use the alley because the alley didn't get done at all last year. And um and so um we had a gentleman in our neighborhood that came through and finally did the alley so that we could even even use it. So, if you're going to take away our parking, then you're going to have to do something about the alley

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because I can't afford to um have that whole alley cleaned myself uh by a private contractor. And thank you. We we appreciate those comments. We will uh address that with the mayor. These are things that need to be addressed. That's important. May I [clears throat] one it it's the grading of the alley. uh which we we we I will make sure that we we can make sure we get that done. It's not just a snow removal, it's grading, too. What you're you're speaking on the potholes. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of potholes there and everything, but if you're going to take our parking away, then you're going to have to do something with the alley so that we can use it for our people to get in and out.

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We need to make sure that and I didn't mean to cut you off. I we want I want to make sure that those alleys are graded that we can go through in and out with no tire busters as as we all have to do. So I appreciate Thank you, Mr. Netta. I'm sorry. No, don't say sorry this time. I'm sorry. I can say the first name, but I apologize. I can't say the last name. Miss Briana and I can't Raymond. Is that correct? Raone. Thank you. I apologize. Hello. How are you guys?

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Hi. Hi. [clears throat]

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Um, my name is Brianna Ramon. Um, I'm a resident in Muny and I have a couple concerns to talk to you guys about. Um, as Cooper said with like the Iron Nation deal that just passed, um, it's basically a call that all um, of Indiana should be responsive to the new wave of out of state and out of country companies that are coming to occupy Hooser land. And there's been many studies showing that like data centers have poisoned the land occupies and the residents that live by it. um the the introduction of these startups, you [snorts] know, to um Indiana could taint our land more and worsen our already bad water. This will directly impact my residents lives in the coming future. So, I hope you keep these in mind or this in mind when the tech companies come in and the pressure to build these data centers continue to grow. Please keep the investment of lives in Muny in the forefront as the future comes about and don't continue the reputation of Muny officials just following the money. Also, I wanted to talk about the corruption that is happening in Muny since probably the start. Um, there was already a little mention of the park officials corruption scandal that has happened. But with the other mentions of board officials not doing their jobs to ensure safe housing for residents, I want to know if there will be any pathways in the future to get city and council offic or county officials to actually do their jobs. You know, Muny is already known for being the second Windy City for its corruption, but continues to hold this reputation, especially as I keep coming to these meetings and hearing residents lives getting screwed over, to put lightly. Um, I just wish um residents or as residents, we could actually see our local government as a benefit to us instead of a detriment. So, if there were further measures that could be taken for this to not be an issue,

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please do it. Um, and I mean even at like council meetings now, um, I only see like one that's like willing to follow up and actually respond to the very big concerns that people are mentioning. So, um, it's not also just like your co-workers, but it's also you, you know, do better. So, that's my [applause] question. Any other business from the council this evening? Need a motion to adjourn the meeting. Mr. President, yes. I believe Mr. King wasn't able to get inside. Yeah, I

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earlier and he wanted to sign up to speak and I just feel like we should give him that opportunity. Thank you. We apologize for the doors being locked. Mr. Green, thank you for the the text. Yes. Yeah. I I don't want to Mr. Green is the one that text me and let me know the doors were locked. So, thank you for letting everyone else know that those doors were locked where you couldn't get in.

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Um, Neil Cring, I'm [snorts] live here in Muny. Um, I live on the south side of Muny and for a job I work with many of Muny's unhoused neighbors as well as many folks who are in uh substance use, mental health crisis on pretty much a daily basis. um both through neighborhood outreach work and through um uh what I do as a neighborhood pastor with Urban Life. And um I am concerned at the decision that was made by the mayor to give a piece of property that was designated to be used for uh behavioral health and substance use uh related treatment issues to a or faith-based organization that is going to be using it to for a doctor's office or something like that. We don't even think any of us really know exactly what they they'll be doing, but that I do know that their free medical clinic they're doing now is for the people who stay at the mission and for their staff. That's pretty much most of the people who use that. And uh that will not be a solution to help engage with behavioral health issues and substance use issues in South Muny. um uh the crisis center for whatever it was, whatever it wasn't, uh was actually serving many of the people who were banned from the hub or banned from the Muny mission who would spend their days there taking showers um getting help, getting treatment, getting connections to care. and maybe it wasn't operating in such a way that it was sustainable, but uh we're still kind of back to the same situation, the same

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situation we were back in 2021 when our neighbors started organizing. We have a couple members of Activate Aenddale here, uh that were a part of that organizing campaign to advocate for services in our neighborhood, right, to help our neighbors. and um it feels like we've taken five steps backward and here we are at the same place. I'm concerned about a a public property like that that was given to an organization with no process that I am aware of neither.

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Um and uh if there was a process that was sort of a under the table type of thing that no one got to participate in or understand.

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Agreed. And um but yet this is a big concern for months now to engage with some of these more complicated issues. Something a city a city can do. Uh something that's very difficult for individual people to uh have to be involved with and come up with solutions for. So um but my house is still the crisis center. Um, just last week someone showed up at my house beating on my door needing help. Um, with still nowhere to take folks, still nowhere to get the help that folks need. So anyway, that's all I have to say. But let's I don't know. I don't even know what I'm asking. I'm just saying I'm pissed. All right. [applause] This is it. [applause]

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Mr. Motion entertain a motion then to adjourn the meeting. I move. Second. All those in favor say by saying I. I. Motion carried. So the health centering patient. Nobody knows. We I didn't know. That money assigned us was foris crisis center not a health clinic. There is no

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You are very welcome.

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