Board of County Commissioners - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, October 28, 2025

About this meeting

Government Body
Board of County Commissioners
Meeting Type
Board Of County Commissioners
Location
Seminole County, FL
Meeting Date
October 28, 2025

Transcript

685 sections (from 765 segments)

8:07 – 8:28Speaker 1

Good morning, and welcome to the Seminole County Board of County Commission meeting. Today is Tuesday, October 28, approximately 09:30AM. We are gonna start with the invocation and pledge of allegiance. Pastor Andy Serrals from Church Together will lead us in prayer, and mister Joey Coat of our, veteran services manager will lead us in the pledge. Please rise.

8:32Speaker 2

Let us pray.

8:34 – 9:26Speaker 3

Gracious and loving God, we pause today with gratitude for the privilege of living in Seminole County, a community we love and are proud to call home. Thank you for its beauty, its people, its opportunities, and the spirit of cooperation that continues to lift and enhance the lives of all who live here. We pray especially this morning for those in Jamaica and those in the path of Hurricane Melissa, praying that you would protect them and give them your peace. We pray as well for our county as we grieve the loss of some of our teenagers, and we pray for your comfort and your peace to surround the memorial services of two of those young people today. We give thanks for the gift of good government and processes that help and guide us towards what is best for our shared future.

9:27 – 9:41Speaker 3

Bless these leaders with wisdom and clarity and courage that their decisions may reflect mercy and our shared common good. In your holy name, we pray. Amen. Amen.

9:48 – 10:21Speaker 1

I pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, gentlemen. Sincerely appreciate that. If everybody would just take a moment, check your cell phones, any other electronic devices you may have, and silence those, please. Next up is our proclamations awards presentations.

10:22 – 10:41Speaker 1

We're going to do two proclamations in a row, and then we will take a break and give the opportunity for some photographs to be taken, and then we'll get to the seminal two fifty. So up first is going to be item number one, proclamation proclaiming 11/11/2025 as Veterans Day. This will be read by commissioner Constantine.

10:43 – 11:33Speaker 2

Thank you very much, commissioner. And for all those veterans here today, especially those that work for the Seminole County, thank you very much for being here. And we certainly welcome you, but thank you for everything that you do each and every day for the people of Seminole County. So I will move the proclamation of the Seminole County Board of County Commissioners proclaiming 11/11/2025 Veterans Day in Seminole County, Florida, and recognizing Seminole County veterans for their outstanding services to The United States. Whereas at 11AM on 11/11/1918, after four years of bitter conflict, the world rejoiced and celebrated the signing of armistice by the allied forces and the Federal Republic Of Germany for the secession of World War one.

11:34 – 12:55Speaker 2

And whereas to remember the sacrifices that men and women made to ensure lasting peace on 11/11/1919, president Woodrow Wilson proclaimed Armistice Day in The United States. And whereas on 06/04/1926, the United States Congress passed a concurrent resolution requesting that president Calvin Coolidge issue a proclamation to observe November 11 with appropriate ceremonies. And whereas on 05/13/1938, twenty years after World War one, congress passed an act making November 11 in each year a federal holiday, a day to be dedicated to the cause of world peace and to be thereafter celebrated and known as Armistice Day. And whereas to honor an American veteran of all wars, president Dwight David Eisenhower signed into law a bill on 06/01/1954 introducing by introduced by US representative Edwin Rees of Kansas, officially renaming Armistice Day to Veterans Day. And whereas in 1971, president Richard Nixon declared Veterans Day would be observed on the second November or second Monday in November.

12:55 – 14:29Speaker 2

And whereas recognizing the historic and patriotic significance of commemorating Veterans Day on its original date, president Gerald Ford signed public law ninety four dash ninety seven eighty nine statute four seventy nine on 09/20/1975, returning the annual observance of Veterans Day to its original date of November 11, and whereas approximately 200,000 service members transition from military to civilian life each year, returning to their communities across the nation, and whereas the National Association of Counties and the National Association of County Veterans Services Officers invite the community to join Operation Greenlight for Veterans, a program symbolizing hope, renewal, and forward movement in support of the veteran transitioning to civilian life. And whereas in observance of operation green light, Seminole County encourages its citizens to honor the service and sacrifices of veterans by displaying a green light in the window of their home or place of business from November 4 through November 11, And now, therefore, be it proclaimed that Seminole County Board of County Commissioners does hereby designate 11/11/2025 as Veterans Day in Seminole County and calls upon the Seminole County residents to honor the contributions of current and former members of the United States Armed Forces.

14:29 – 15:06Speaker 1

Second. Motion and second. Any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor? Aye. Thank you very much, Commissioner Constein. If you're a veteran, if you would just stand for a moment and be recognized. Thank you for your service. Stay tuned. We'll come down and get some photos in just a moment. Next item up is item number two, resolution honoring the retirement of judge John L. Woodard, and this will be read by commissioner Lockhart. Commissioner?

15:06 – 15:23Speaker 4

Thank you so much. It truly is my honor to present this resolution to the Seminole County Board of County Commissioners honoring the retirement of judge John L. Woodard the third. Commissioners, I move the following resolution. Whereas the honorable John L. Woodard the third was admitted to

15:23 – 15:41Speaker 5

the Florida Bar on 03/28/1978 and has been board certified as a criminal trial specialist since 1988, and whereas judge Woodard earned his bachelor of arts degree from the University of Florida and his juris doctor from Wake Forest University, and whereas prior to his judicial service,

15:41 – 16:57Speaker 4

he served as an assistant state attorney in the ninth judicial circuit, practiced in private practice, was president of the Central Florida Criminal Defense Lawyers Association, and chaired the Orange County Bar Criminal Law Committee. And whereas on 05/02/2007, governor Charlie Crist appointed him to the Seminole County bench as county court judge. And whereas among his judicial assignments, judge Woodard has been a lead figure in establishing the county court within the eighteenth judicial circuit, he has also been significantly involved with specialized court, serving both as the judge of mental health court and judge of the Veterans Court in Seminole County. And whereas, judge Woodard has helped secure federal grants to fund the mental health court, demonstrating dedication to addressing complex social issues through through the judicial system. And whereas his professional service includes membership in many organizations, the Seminole County Bar Association, the Volly Williams ends of court, the Seminole County Mental Health Task Force serving on the Seminole County supervisor of elections canvassing board, including a term as chair from 2010 to 2014, past membership in the Central Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, including serving as its president, and participation in national legal organizations.

16:57 – 18:11Speaker 4

And whereas his work has been recognized with multiple awards, including the Seminole County Bar's Lifetime Achievement Award, the Bar's Distinguished Service Award for his creation and implementation of Veterans Court, a certificate of appreciation from Navy CB Veterans of America, the Gary Formet Award of Judicial Excellence, and the Mys Dickey Judge of the Year Award. And whereas, over his time on the bench, Judge Woodard has provided with fairness, compassion, and professionalism, championing access to innovative court programs, particularly in the areas of mental health and veterans issues. Now therefore be it resolved by the board of county commissioners of Seminole County, Florida, that we do hereby recognize and commend the honorable John L. Woodard the third for more than eighteen years of dedicated and distinguished service as county court judge, honoring his many professional accomplishments, judicial leadership, and his immeasurable contributions to Seminole County's legal and civic community. Be it further resolved that we extend our deepest gratitude to judge Woodard for upholding the rule of law with integrity, for advancing the cause of justice in all his rulings, and for his vision in establishing courts and programs which serve the most vulnerable among us.

18:11 – 18:26Speaker 4

Be it finally resolved that we wish judge Woodard a well earned, restful, and joyous retirement with our very best wishes for health, happiness, and continued service in whatever new ways he may choose to engage with our community. Adopted this October 2025.

18:26Speaker 1

Second. Motion and second. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye.

18:31 – 24:42Speaker 1

Opposed like sign carries unanimous. Thank you, your honor. Alright. We're gonna take a short break and get some photographs down on the floor if my fellow commissioners would be happy to join me. Alright.

24:42Speaker 1

We'll give folks a few moments to exit the chambers, then we'll get back to it. That's pretty bright.

24:50Speaker 4

It is bright. Are are were we supposed to have those on when the veterans were asked to take a picture?

25:00Speaker 4

have It was given no instructions on the your window

25:03Speaker 1

from November 4 to November. When

25:06Speaker 2

I first walked

25:07Speaker 9

thought was because we

25:08Speaker 7

were starting I thought do

25:14Speaker 2

that was a pretty good idea.

25:26Speaker 1

Miss Bauer, we're not quite ready for you. Give me just one second. Sure. We're gonna ask our veterans services manager to come forward.

25:46 – 26:28Speaker 5

Mister chairman, commissioners, mister Gray, mister Latour, good morning. Residents, veterans that all cleared out, good morning. I started in the VSO office about two months ago. And every morning, we go out to our lobby, and the veterans in there are just down, playing on their phones, not talking to each other, not conversating. So our team decided to change that. We start every day with a dad joke. Something so small means so much to somebody. So today, I wanna start this with a dad joke. What does the airman do when he finds a scorpion in his tent? Runs?

26:28Speaker 5

He calls the front desk at the hotel and says, why is there

26:32Speaker 1

a tent in my room? Right. Exactly. There we go.

26:39 – 27:21Speaker 5

Well said. Today today, we pause and honor the men and women who answered the call of duty, those who stood ready to defend our freedoms, protect our communities, and uphold the values that define our nation. Our service represents courage, sacrifice, and unwavering commitment to something greater than ourselves. As we celebrate Veterans Day, let us continue to honor their legacy not only in words, but in actions that strengthen our veteran community and support the families that stand behind them. I also wanna take a moment to recognize judge Woodard, who has served as a veterans court judge and is now retiring.

27:21 – 28:14Speaker 5

Judge Woodard has made a lasting difference in the lives of so many veterans, offering them understanding, compassion, and a second chance. His dedication to helping veterans rebuild their lives has left left an incredible legacy that we are deeply grateful for for his service both on and off the bench. Your recognition today and leaders like judge Woodard show that our county does not take freedom or service for granted. Today reminds every veteran that their service matters, that their sacrifices are not forgotten, and that this community stands beside them, not just on Veterans Day, but every day. From all of us that have served, thank you for your respect, your recognition, and your commitment to our nation's heroes.

28:14Speaker 5

Keep up the fire.

28:20Speaker 7

to Seminole County.

28:21 – 28:34Speaker 1

Yes, indeed. Alright. Item number three is going to be miss Deborah Bauer, Seminole 250 Good presentation. Doctor.

28:34 – 29:07Speaker 6

Morning, Chair, Commissioners, and Staff. My name is Doctor. Deborah Bauer, I'm here representing Seminole County Historical Commission this morning, ready to give you your burst of history in a few minutes, so hopefully I won't put anyone to sleep. So we give you a very brief overview of what the historical commission has been working on for the last four months in preparation for 2026. So what is the American Semi Quincentennial Anniversary, aside from being a word that if you try and say it too fast without having had your cup of coffee, you will inevitably get caught up in?

29:07 – 30:22Speaker 6

It's really a short way to say Happy Birthday, United States, because it will be tuning two fifty years old next year on 07/04/2026. This process for looking at how to commemorate the American two fifty is something that started on the federal level going back to 2016 with an act of Congress and then it's trickled down through the federal and state and now to the local level. So these plans have been in process for quite a while and we've just kind of tried to help get Seminole County on page so that we're prepared to celebrate what I know will be a very happy time in Seminole County next year. The Florida two fifty was created by Governor DeSantis in 2024 and he had initiated a plan and made it very clear that Florida two fifty will be working with all 67 counties and all cities in the state of Florida on appropriate commemorative and celebratory opportunities for the two hundred fiftieth next year. The Seminole County Historical Commission, as you all know, one of our main goals and one of the main duties that we have is to help to counsel and advise you all being the County Commission on matters of historical significance within our county borders.

30:22 – 31:23Speaker 6

With that goal in mind, on June 19, the Seminole County Historical Commission voted to create a subcommittee, officially known as the Seminole County Semi Quintentennial Planning Subcommittee, or as we've been calling it for shorthand because that is far too many syllables to say this early in the morning, Seminole 250. And I was very honored to be elected by my fellow historical commissioners as the chair of that subcommittee. We've been working since June and we had a really crazy idea. We said what if we try and get all of the stakeholders from Seminole County core fundamental institutions, being the county, seven cities, school district, college, and airport, in the same place at the same time and tell everyone they're not allowed to complain to one another, but actually have to get along to try and come up with an appropriate set of ideas and recommendations to bring back to help coordinate this very large and very historically significant anniversary across the county. And believe it or not, that's exactly what we did.

31:23 – 32:37Speaker 6

We went to the seven city managers, to the school superintendent, to Seminole State College's president and the president of the airport and asked if they would each appoint a representative to serve on the subcommittee. And I'm very happy and very grateful to all those individuals for sending one person who has met over the course of eight meetings for the last four months to try and figure out the best way forward. We had our unofficial kickoff that some of you were at, at the Museum of Seminole County History on July 31, and we are now happy to be able to say that we have come up with a list of official recommendations for you all, trying to be very cognizant of the fact that while we love to celebrate, we love to have a good time in Seminole County, we also want to be good stewards of not trying to do something that the pocketbook is not going to allow. So with that in mind, what we have done is we held these meetings because one of the things the historical commission felt very strongly about is that although we had buy in from the seven cities, the college, the airport, and the school district, we also needed to have public input from possible public private partnerships to make this a success all over so that all stakeholders in Summit County were represented in this process.

32:37 – 33:44Speaker 6

And to that end, I'm very happy to say that over the course of those public meetings we had dozens of people show up representing various five zero one(three)s and in their guise as private citizens and business owners to give their efforts and their 2¢ saying this is what we believe is the best way to celebrate. So those goals, aside from soliciting the public input, the other things that we worked towards was coming up with a written plan so that we could present it to you all that these are what we felt the stakeholders after getting that very long process for public input, these are what the most popular and most feasibly logistical ideas were. The public meetings and their minutes, I'm happy to say, are all available. We have put them into the final report, but I wanted to give you all a little bit of some of the highlights of some of the ideas that we came up with. Most of them you will be surprised to know in no way that as the cities and the various host institutions started talking about, Hey, what are you guys doing over in Altamont?

33:44 – 34:07Speaker 6

Or Hey, what is the city of Oviedo doing? Or the college or the school district? Everyone very quickly from our first meeting says, We don't know. We'll get back to you. And so one of the wonderful things that came out of this process is it started all of the cities and the other institutions thinking about on their own how individually they were going to start commemorating the two hundred fiftieth next year.

34:07 – 35:13Speaker 6

At the same time those institutions were working towards their own personal city goals or for the airport, the school district, the college, we started to look at how we might be able to coordinate some ideas countywide on things that would be appropriate. One of the things that we did is and I do want to give a shout out to Lori Bailey Brown's team. The State of Florida had set aside some grant funding and we had eleven days from when we found out that the grant had opened to when we had it submitted, which what we had a lot of hopes about but unfortunately did not qualify for the state funding. So that caused us to have to scale back some of our recommendations, but I do want to give a shout out to Lori Bailey Brown's team because they were nothing short of amazing than fantastic in what we were able to accomplish so that even though we weren't funded, we did fight the good fight in trying to make an effort. The other thing that I want to point out is many of these things were already being done in some way, but the largest thing that we identified that was important for this was starting to coordinate so that the right hand and the left hand know what both sides are doing.

35:14 – 35:58Speaker 6

And with that, some of the most popular ideas were, for example, establishing a special Seminal two fifty website. We found that in comparing works for other municipalities and counties in the state of Florida and throughout The United States, Having a specially designated website with the listing of what's going on, when, where, and how was a very popular and very universally suggested idea. Some of these other items would go through different various county departments. So for example, working with local museums to have special themed museum exhibits. I'm happy to report that Bennett Lloyd, the museum coordinator for the Museum of Seminole County history, already had planned to do a special exhibit dedicated to the two hundred and fiftieth that will be opening in January.

35:58 – 37:14Speaker 6

So again, it's really just trying to get the word out to various people that, hey, these things are in process and this is what we would like everyone to know is going on so they can take advantage of participating in these activities. Some of the other things were talks, looking perhaps at trying to put out some public relations media attempts. Probably what my personal favorite was, was something that we came up with an idea called the Seminole County Liberty Tree Program with this idea that Seminole County is Florida's natural choice with our emphasis on conservation and the environment. And so there were two suggested ways that every host institution, the county, the seven cities, the college, the district, and the airport would plant a Florida elm tree in memory of what were the original liberty trees that were planted during the American Revolution to celebrate independence and patriotism. And if there were not any baby trees that could be found through publicprivate donations, although we've worked on gathering some potential sponsorship opportunities as well, that each group would be able to designate possibly an already existing tree as their liberty tree and maybe even name it for PR purposes.

37:14 – 38:08Speaker 6

So, for example, in the city of Sanford, the city of Sanford might have the liberty tree Henry, you might have in Casselberry, the liberty tree Hibbard, and so on and so forth to kind of make it fun so that as we go forward, these are all ways to remember and reflect and keep the commemoration going for all twelve months. As you can see here, the county manager and the comms office were terrific in helping to get the original February logo that is presented at the very top and I'm happy to show you the various counties and or excuse me, cities and other presentations, logos that are going to be used all throughout next year by the others who adapted that Original County for some type of continuity in marketing. So with that having been said, if I can answer any questions, I'm here. I just want to thank everyone for the opportunity to speak with you and to present this information. Thank you.

38:08 – 38:26Speaker 1

Thank you very much, Doctor. Bauer, and we sincerely appreciate all the work that the Historical Society has done on this. And so, we're looking forward to more interaction as we get closer in getting these things pulled off. We'll start at the farm with Commissioner Lockhart, work our way across for any comments or questions.

38:29 – 39:05Speaker 4

So in some of my travels this last year, I've started picking up America two fifty stickers at every little location that I can find and it's I don't have a laptop that I can stick them on, so I don't know where they're going. But it might be fun to have some type of something that everybody could participate in that they could maybe it's a magnet on a car or something that would be a very simple design that could be shared that could get the message out. But great job, love the collaboration. If you could have a list of the various nonprofits that are participating, that would be helpful.

39:05 – 39:17Speaker 6

We do in the final report. I know that some of your offices got draft versions of the report. I think one or two of you only may have gotten the formal, but we will make sure that we have the final version sent to all of your offices.

39:17Speaker 4

Yeah, that'd great. I'd love to be who is hosting the website?

39:21Speaker 6

Was suggested through the county since this was a county initiative through the county historical

39:25 – 39:50Speaker 4

It'd be great to have all of those nonprofits and those private organizations be able to have a link so that people can support the organizations that are supporting the project. Is there a plan yet for private companies who want to participate and perhaps donate funds? Is there a list, a you know, for 1,000 you get this, for 5,000 you get that sort

39:50 – 40:09Speaker 6

of thing? So we did not feel within our purposes because commission can only advise and present information, we did not feel it appropriate to go that far, but what we did do is within the report we did notate public and other five zero one(three)s and private businesses who have expressed an interest in being willing to partner as sponsors.

40:09Speaker 4

Yeah, I think the opportunity to let businesses participate would be a really nice idea too. Thank you so much for your work.

40:17Speaker 1

Thank you. Mr. Konstine.

40:22 – 40:47Speaker 2

Bauer, thank you very much again for all your hard work, all the hard work of your committee. I just I think the Liberty Tree is a great idea, and I hope that you keep pushing that. And, you know, I mean, are you saying that each place would have a location or a specific location like city hall or a park or something of that nature? Their choice,

40:48 – 41:21Speaker 6

So it's been very well received by the seven various city managers. They one of the reasons, because the original Liberty Tree was not a Florida elm, but in our recommendation we wanted to have something that would have a chance of surviving for however many years later. So because a northern elm will not grow very well in Florida, Florida elm will because it's a native lifestyle or it's a native tree. And it seemed almost everyone is on board with that and they really like the idea of being able to point to this being a seminal two fifty tree for many years to come.

41:21Speaker 2

Well, Great idea. Thank you.

41:25 – 41:39Speaker 11

Mr. Zilari. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Doctor. Bao, well done. It's quite obvious that you and your committee have spent a lot of time and effort on this. I just want to commend you all for not only being transparent but to reaching out to the community and all the other organizations. Well done.

41:39Speaker 1

you. Commissioner Her.

41:42 – 42:02Speaker 7

I think everything's been said, although I'll ask county manager if there's action that needs to be taken in order to support the Florida Elm process. I'd be happy to make sure, like, usher that through our process so that we make sure that it's happening up here. And I'm sure it's premature today, but Doctor.

42:02 – 42:26Speaker 13

Yeah, you know, in fact we're waiting for Doctor. Bauer's report and I'm glad the committee met and they have their recommendations. Now what we're going to do, she's going to bring that to us and we're putting together a team of folks to see what type of recommendations that the county are implications that they will be with the county and then I'll bring if there's any cost to that or something, I'll bring that back to the board. So we're working on it.

42:26Speaker 7

I think sometimes it's helpful that somebody steps out and says, We are doing this. That spurs along. So if you need that, let us know.

42:33 – 43:31Speaker 6

Will do. I will say the biggest ask right now is in one of the things the committee had decided was we didn't want this just to be a July 2026, like for fourth of July celebrate. The committee all felt through reflecting the various city commission and city managers' feedback and the respective boards was that this should be a plan for twelve months' worth of commemoration. And so with that idea, in fact, really the most pressing need would be we're asking all of the various boards and city commissions to follow, hopefully, the county commission by passing a proclamation declaring 2026 the year of commemoration for The USA two fifty, and we're hoping to have that done in January just so we can kick off the year right. We kind of had this idea that whenever we get ready to have proclamations and resolutions from all 11 founding institutions would be very neat and we felt appropriate, and so that would be, I think, the most pressing thing.

43:31 – 44:15Speaker 6

But I will tell you, and I do want to repeat this again, one of the things when we were going through, we had some really cool ideas. I'm not going to lie to you. People were talking about doing drone shows, They were talking about extravaganzas and galas. But we wanted to keep in mind that this is something where this is a luxury. This is a wand. This is our fund money. And so all of the recommendations that we made were done so that there would be minimal budget impact if any type of financial contribution required at all. If there are anything so for example, there's a recommendation in there for the county to have a historical marker in recognition of the two hundred fiftieth. That's something that museum staff already has budgeted, has a line item. That money has already been dedicated for a marker.

44:15 – 44:35Speaker 6

So that would be something where we don't want to put a drain, we don't want to put an ask on needing more money when there are as I said, these are fun things that we'd love to have if we had, you know, for example, gotten the grant, I would be giving you guys a totally different presentation, but we wanted to be fiscally responsible as we came up with these ideas so that hopefully they could be implemented.

44:35Speaker 7

We appreciate that.

44:37Speaker 1

Stuff. All right. Anything else? Thank you, Doctor. Bauer. We sincerely appreciate it very much.

44:43Speaker 6

Thank you all.

44:44Speaker 1

Good work. Mr. County Manager, you see you'll collaborate and get back with the board?

44:49Speaker 13

Yes, sir. Great. You. Be giving you an update.

44:51 – 45:02Speaker 1

All right. Next item up is going to be our County Investment Advisors report, Mr. Scott McIntyre. Welcome again, mister McIntyre.

45:07 – 45:45Speaker 9

Good morning. I didn't realize it had been I I I know it's been a month, obviously, since I've been here last time, but before we were here, the government had not shut down yet, and the government has shut down, and that's gonna have quite a few impacts as we go forward. A a shutdown that lasts a couple of days is not impactful, and there's not enough pain for anybody to step into action. But when you're at twenty eight days and you're a week away from the longest in history and there's no, as far as I can tell, movement toward the center at this point. I mean, theoretically, it could go on quite a while.

45:45 – 46:30Speaker 9

I think both sides feel like they have the upper hand in terms of perception, and that's what it's all boiled down to at this point. The thing that worries me is that Thanksgiving is coming up, travel season. There there's three three impacts. There's a lot of impacts, but one of them is that essential workers that are that are working are not getting paid, military being the exception. But I'm thinking in terms of of TSA and in terms of air traffic controllers. I flew yesterday. It was it was more difficult than it than it should have been. I think as we approach the travel season, that's going be a bigger and bigger problem. And then we're also not getting economic data. So we missed the payroll report.

46:30 – 46:57Speaker 9

We will miss the October CPI report because it wasn't calculated. I think a lot of people feel like we're missing out on releases, but we're actually missing out on calculations. Nobody's doing the the the math. So the employment reports are literally surveys that are being taken, and there's no one to take the survey, so there's gonna be a hole in the data. CPI is literally folks that are that are checking on prices and reporting back, and they're not checking on prices.

46:57 – 47:37Speaker 9

So even though we got a September CPI report, which was necessary to calculate the COLA increases for Social Security, I'm not sure that there will be an October CPI report. So, in essence, the Fed is flying blind. They're relying on some data that is that is coming from the private sector, and and it's questionable about whether the market's gonna embrace that private sector data or not. So, as usual, we're up here in a period where there's there's a transition that's taking place, and we're not really sure where it's gonna go. Having said that, the the shutdown has not affected the bond market.

47:37 – 48:17Speaker 9

I think yields are roughly where they've been. One of the things that I've talked to a number of my clients about that makes it different from what we were going through in July is that July was the debt service. I'm sorry, the debt ceiling. So the debt ceiling was extended, so we don't have to worry about paying our bills. This is more about the budget going forward. So that's the distinction. Treasuries are are being paid, securities being paid, veterans benefits are being paid, all that is happening. The question is going forward, are we gonna agree on a budget, and and that's where we are. So I do want to mention that the labor market appears to have weakened. Most of the anecdotal data suggests that it's weakening.

48:17 – 48:57Speaker 9

That should keep the Fed on track to continue cutting rates. They meet this week. They're actually likely to announce, very, very likely, another 25 basis point cut tomorrow. Inflation continues to trend gradually higher. The CPI through September overnight I'm I'm sorry. The headline and the core CPI rate were at 3%. You know, the Fed's target is 2%, but 3% is okay, so that keeps the Fed on track. This is the two year Treasury note yield going back one year. You can see what the trend is. The trend is that the expectation is that rates will be lower in the future, so the two year note yield continues to fall.

48:57 – 49:19Speaker 9

Although on the tail end there, it's risen a little bit. Again, I don't think the bond market's been affected by the shutdown at all. So these are where yields have been. As I've mentioned several times, you you basically see this meeting as of a few days ago and where we were in terms of yields over the course of the last three meetings. Yields have trended downward.

49:20 – 49:48Speaker 9

And the overnight pool rates, which are essentially money market funds for local governments, those yields are going to fall in conjunction with Fed rate cuts. So even though those rates there toward the bottom look pretty appealing, they'll be roughly 25 basis points lower theoretically this week. And as we roll forward, there's one more Fed meeting in December. We expect the Fed will cut then as well. So we'll probably end the year, you can guess, 50 basis points lower on the overnight rate as well.

49:49 – 50:24Speaker 9

Upcoming maturities, you have a meeting sort of in between those upcoming maturities on the eighteenth, so we're gonna address the the first two maturities. Recent transactions, there was a palm term pool rate that was rolled over roughly a year to position four year expenses at a three ninety three, which seemed really favorable at the time. And then there was some reallocation of of monies back into your your local banks, which we'd moved some money out. The clerk's office had moved some money out. This is reallocating it back in.

50:25 – 50:46Speaker 9

We like to keep a balance in in the local pools. So recommendations. The first is you have that large upcoming CD that's maturing, and what we need to do is go to the bank and ask them if they'd like to keep that. If they would, there's a negotiation process. It's usually favorable because they don't want that money to leave, so they'll pay a little bit more.

50:46 – 51:37Speaker 9

I don't know where that's going to be, but my recommendation is that we attempt to roll that over, and then there's room in the term pools. And in essence, what we'll be doing, assuming that you approve this recommendation, is investing into next summer, again, to meet your expenses, and then taking a small portion out into 2028, again, kind of carrying forward to the extent that we can lock it in longer with the expectation that the Fed is going to continue to cut into next year. Portfolio yield as of September was 4.31%, yet about 17% that was fully liquid. That's been lower. There is some spending that's not reflected here.

51:38 – 52:00Speaker 9

At the October, given the fact that those investments are not actually going to happen in October, your yield is going to be still roughly four thirty, which isn't too bad. I expect probably toward the November it's probably closer to $4.20 or below $4.20. I'm going to step back. I know I've done a lot of speaking, and I always get stumbled up on this. If I could ask for some help.

52:00Speaker 1

All right. I'll look for a motion. Chair?

52:05Speaker 7

I'd like to implement recommendations of our financial advisor based on the report submitted today and recommend the clerk implement said board recommendations.

52:13Speaker 1

Motion and second. Any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor? Aye. Opposed, like sign? Seeing none, carries unanimous. Thank you, mister McArthur.

52:22Speaker 2

Thank you all.

52:23 – 52:57Speaker 1

We appreciate it very much. Thank you. Alright. Next up is gonna be our consent agenda items. If there's anyone here that desires, excuse me, to speak on any of these items, please make sure you filled out a speaker's request form in the lobby and get up to our clerk, miss Dominique, here at the front, and we'll make sure that you get an opportunity to speak on that item. Please identify the item on the agenda in which you desire to speak about so we can make sure we keep that straight. I will now go to the county attorney for the rules of public participation. Ms. Latour.

52:57 – 53:34Speaker 14

Thank you, Chairman. Florida law provides that members of the public shall be given a reasonable opportunity to be heard on propositions before the Board of County Commissioners except when the Board is acting on an emergency or ministerial matter or conducting a meeting exempt from the requirements of the Sunshine Law. Individuals shall be permitted three minutes each for public comment or six minutes when the individual is an official representative of a formal association or group. The chairman may modify the maximum time for public comment at his sole discretion when appropriate. Public comments on quasi judicial or other public hearing items will occur during the board's consideration of those items this afternoon.

53:35 – 53:49Speaker 14

Public comments on pending procurement matters or on non agenda items shall not be permitted at this time. Members of the public desiring to make comment must fill out a speaker form and present the form to staff, and forms are available in the lobby. Mr. Chairman.

53:49 – 54:02Speaker 1

Thank you, Ms. Latour. These are constitutional officers' consent agenda item number five and six, county manager's consent agenda items 6a through 28. Mister county manager, do you have any revisions?

54:02Speaker 13

Thank you, mister chairman and commissioners. No revisions. So, the consent agenda stands as presented.

54:09Speaker 1

Thank you very much. Any individual commissioner desire to pull any item for separate consideration?

54:17Speaker 11

Mr. Chairman, I don't want to pull anything, I just want to make a comment if you don't mind.

54:20Speaker 1

Okay. Sure, go ahead.

54:21 – 54:49Speaker 11

I think it's staff needs to be commended. We've been asking staff for a while to do seem at risk, and I see it moving in that direction. And I just want to compliment staff Thank you. For their hard work to do that. I fully support all the items on the consent agenda. I would like to, at some point, get an update when the owner's rep for item number 10 will be brought to us. But that doesn't need to happen today, obviously. But I want to commend you all for the hard work that you've done.

54:49Speaker 1

Thank you. Anything else? If not, I'll look for a motion. So moved. Items.

54:58Speaker 2

I'll second the motion.

55:00 – 55:18Speaker 1

Which is item five through 28. Including 6A. Including 6A. Motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed, like sign? Hearing none, carries unanimous. All right. Thank you all very much. And those who were here in attendance to

55:20Speaker 2

And go back to work.

55:21 – 55:45Speaker 1

You can now proceed to go back to work or hang out with us the rest of the morning. We're getting ready to go in some work session timings. All right. Our first up is going to be economic development update with mister Guy Cunha, our economic development tourism director. Mister Guy?

55:47 – 56:11Speaker 15

Good morning, everyone. For the record, Gee Cunha, director of economic development and tourism. We're giving our brief economic development update. To start off the outline, we'll have Irma Stenman, our business development manager for big business in Seminole County. We define big business as any business with 50 or more employees.

56:12 – 56:52Speaker 15

And then our economic development business manager, Stefan Salariega, will give an update on small business and entrepreneurship, and also workforce development. And then we'll discuss the next steps of our labor study. So business profile within Seminole County, we have a 4% unemployment rate, one of the low the lowest in the region, one of the lowest in the state. Per Scott McIntyre who presented, we did see an uptick as well on the last Bureau of Labor Statistics report, so did every other county. We are one of the canaries in the coal mine.

56:52 – 57:28Speaker 15

So we're very anxious in awaiting the next BLS report, as is everyone. Our average annual wage, 69,000 a year. That is one of the highest in the state with 95% of our registered businesses being at 50 employees or less. Our largest employment sector, pretty much throughout all of Central Florida, is your retail industry, but our highest paying sector, paying sector is management of companies and enterprises. Those are our headquarter offices that we have here in Semma.

57:30 – 58:13Speaker 15

So, this is one of my favorite charts that Edma Stenman provides us. This tells us about 15 different stories all in one, but I'm going give us the high level overlook. The blue bar going towards your left shows the growth and increase in registered businesses at 50 employees or less, while the line, the orange line, shows the increase in salaries as we get to the larger scale businesses. One of the proud points for Seminole County and our community is you don't see a drastic drop between that orange line from big business to small business. That is something to be very, very proud of.

58:13 – 58:56Speaker 15

So in Seminole County, to work for a small business does not mean you are taking a significant pay cut all in. This contributes heavily to our quality of life for every employed individual in Seminole County. Now, our pie charts here on the left, this is this data is gathered from our partnership with Florida Commerce. So one of the key factors here to continue to remember as you see a yearly agreement across your desk from Florida Commerce, this is the data that we've received from them. On the left, the pie chart there, percent of businesses by industry in Seminole County.

58:56 – 59:27Speaker 15

And on the right, the pie chart there is employment by industry. As you look at your top three, top four, you see the balance of high wage industries such as your headquarters, with also medium to lower wage industries such as retail. So the balance in Seminole County as it currently stands is very strong across all of our research. Now, I'd like to bring up Irma Stenman to discuss the big business outlook.

59:34 – 59:59Speaker 16

Morning. Irma Stengman, business development manager in the Office of Economic Development and Tourism. There you go. We continue to track our top employers, the largest employers in Seminole County, both in the private as well as in the public sector. For the public sector, Seminole County Public Schools has always been traditionally one of our top employers, continues to be the case.

59:59 – 1:00:32Speaker 16

Those numbers are actual verified with each of those organizations. In the private sector also has been continuing. AdventHealth is our top employer. You can see some of our top employers in the private sector are in the healthcare industry as well as in business finance and insurance industries. We also continue our relationship with the Orlando Economic Partnership, the OEP, And through that collaboration, we have established in the last year or so about five projects.

1:00:32 – 1:01:28Speaker 16

Four of those were expansions. The most significant expansion that we saw last year was the BNY Mellon Bank of New York expansion originally had announced 1,100 jobs and then announced another 500 jobs. And those are high paying jobs at $90,000 a year salary. This collaboration also includes the promotion of sites, specific sites, through the third program, Bright Maid, as well as assistance and visits to businesses and some strategies development for economic development with the Economic Development Committee. And they provide a report quarterly and this is their third quarter of last year where we can see that these are only the leads or the projects that are in their pipeline that have for which they have submitted information or a site in Seminole County.

1:01:28Speaker 16

So this is very promising. These are things we're looking forward to. And with that, I'm going to pass it now to Esteban.

1:01:38 – 1:02:10Speaker 17

Good morning, commissioners, county leadership Esteban Salderiaga, Seminole County Economic Development. To start our highlight, we're gonna go dive right into the Center for Business Development with Seminole State College. The Center for Business Development is currently operating its incubator at 96% occupancy with strong job creation, capital formation and consulting hours. The Center for Business Development also is home to the Small Business Development Center that provides consulting hours to business owners in the incubator. We wanted to share some impact with client highlights from each of our partners.

1:02:10 – 1:02:58Speaker 17

So today I'm sharing with you In America with Grace, Grace Acevedo, an educational service specifically English language services for non English speakers. Grace through the Center for Business Development has doubled their revenue and been able to expand their business beyond Central Florida. Just to show the power of the ecosystem, Grace also has partnered with Prospera for different business services. The UCF incubation program again, I want to highlight that the UCF incubation program really does have a niche of high-tech companies in their incubator that again is showcased by the strong ROI of $11.5 per public dollar invested. There are also currently three international soft landing companies tied to the offices over at the Heathrow Campus.

1:02:59 – 1:03:32Speaker 17

You may have seen a highlight of that via Spectrum News where they highlighted an AI company who who recently joined the program. To emphasize the work that the UCF incubation program does, we have Time Class who this year was able to raise $1,000,000 in funding that supported again a leasing of assets in the county, specifically a warehouse space in Casselberry. For other resource partners that we work with, we have Prospera. Prospera continues to support multilingual business owners. They do that through various ways consulting, workshops, events.

1:03:33 – 1:04:09Speaker 17

The business advancement services I want to specify are services that they identify with the clients they work with and those take form in the shape of grants that support them with accounting services, legal services, and marketing services. The National Entrepreneur Center has seen an increase in the use of our residents engaging with Central Florida BizLink. That is their online platform for business consultation. They've also highlighted that 21 of our residents have gone further and gotten business plans created in partnership with their consultants. Two notable county workshops were Show Me the Money and AI Tools, both hosted here in Sanford.

1:04:09 – 1:04:38Speaker 17

And lastly, the Central Florida International Trade Office. Beyond the 49 consultations totaling one hundred and two hours, also earlier this year served as a subject matter expert for tariffs. They hosted a tariff workshop at the Economic Development Hub. And before I go on to the next slide, I want to share that both of these partners have been utilizing the Economic Development Hub located at the San Jose College Heathrow campus quite a bit. They exclusively host their workshops now moving forward at that location, which is exciting.

1:04:39 – 1:05:17Speaker 17

Two highlights for Prospera and for National Entrepreneur Center. We have JL Evolution, which Prospera also celebrated at the recent success stories that they hosted a few weeks ago. JL Evolution is a tech company based here in Sanford who benefited from those advanced business services. CFITO, the segment that supports foreign trade from the National Entrepreneur Center, supported Hernie Manufacturing, again a local entrepreneur, a local manufacturer here that specializes in adhesives. They were introduced to Ex I'm Bank, which is the federal government's trade credit partner for financing trade activities.

1:05:18 – 1:05:43Speaker 17

Now diving into workforce development. We start with seminal commits, showing the impact there as they continue to serve our unemployed, underemployed, and underserved populations through skills training and certification programs. Those are updates as of the September. Careers for Central Florida hosted three programs during the summer, two adult cohorts and one youth program or youths as my cousin Vinny says.

1:05:44Speaker 1

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1:05:46Speaker 11

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1:05:49Speaker 7

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1:05:52Speaker 11

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1:05:53 – 1:06:23Speaker 17

I couldn't miss the opportunity. They they had an eighty six percent placement rate with the adult cohorts, which is incredible. And as many of you participated in the youth program, the celebration of these young adults going through different county departments to experience careers in government, incredibly impactful. We heard from many of the students who shared their experiences there. Starbase hosted in partnership with the county and the city of Sanford forty one high school and college students to create a model and simulation project surrounding the Barbara Lee.

1:06:24 – 1:07:12Speaker 17

And the Manufacturers Association of Central Florida this week on Thursday is actually hosting the Made in Central Florida Expo which will be connecting 200 registered students to that event to a pipeline of workforce needs within the manufacturing industry. And lastly, as we've done in the past, the economic development team has supported Seminole County Fire Department with recruitment videos tying that to collegiate athletes to build a desire for folks to for those students to join the Fire Department. I'm happy to announce that we will be starting a new project in January in partnership with the fire department to create more content. So excited to be able to showcase that soon. And to pass it back to the birthday boy, okay, for upcoming projects.

1:07:17 – 1:08:12Speaker 15

Thank you. And one of the points on the incubators, we work with both Seminole State College and UCF to continue to look at the best strategic locations for each of the incubators. We are aware of the current developments at one of our incubators, and we're working hand in hand on all best possible outcomes for the county specifically. Now, last economic development presentation that we had, there was a request for a labor study to have a better understanding in return to office office concepts in Seminole County, and also the feeder system into our large employers. So, now that we've started this new fiscal year, we've allocated the resources necessary to launch the largest labor study that Economic Development has conducted in Seminole County.

1:08:12 – 1:09:05Speaker 15

We expect that this labor study, the first draft, will be completed on calendar Q1 twenty twenty six. Our team will be engaged with all the largest employers, along with our current partners, stakeholders, to have a better understanding of what that hybrid virtual and office worker looks like in Seminole County, and also who are the feeders into these large employers. We will then bring that data back to the BCC, and from that data that we gathered, we will look at possible next steps in updating possible ED strategies that may include job growth incentive review, as well. And with that, I wanna open the floor for any questions.

1:09:05Speaker 1

Very good. We'll start this in with commissioner Her.

1:09:10 – 1:09:31Speaker 7

I'm gonna go through questions first. So on 08:58, Orlando Economic Partnership, it's the one with the funnels, the sales funnels. Are those specific to Seminole County?

1:09:31Speaker 15

No. Those are to the entire region, including of Seminole County.

1:09:36Speaker 16

No. I'm sorry. Those were the Seminole County specific.

1:09:39Speaker 15

Oh, the okay. Well, even better. Yes. So yes. So we received two of the funnel reports. This would be yeah. If I

1:09:50 – 1:10:10Speaker 16

may add there. The of the many leads they have, they respond and they submit properties. And sometimes there will be a property that's submitted that is in Orange County and another property that is Seminole County. So the same project may be counted twice because of that. So these are the ones that have include Seminole County information or Seminole County sites.

1:10:11 – 1:10:40Speaker 7

This is fantastic information. We should be getting this regularly, specific to Seminole. We can get it along with the regional, but I really want to understand how we fit into the bigger portion of So the that's fabulous, thank you. I also wanted to point out, Guy, that we serve donuts in the lobby for your birthday. But that was all just for you.

1:10:42 – 1:11:12Speaker 7

And then let's go to August. I think at some point, so this I'm going do a commercial, I did the ribbon cutting for BNY, and I think next year we're going to see BNY on this list. It was simply phenomenal in terms of an employer that's been brought into this area that is remarkable. It is one of three financial hubs in the country. It is not simply back office anymore.

1:11:13 – 1:11:56Speaker 7

In all honesty, I did not know that until I got there. That was intentional because it was brought in after nineeleven as a back office redundancy shop, and now it is one of the financial hubs within the country. It's significant, significant, significant. And I would tell you they have a philosophy of unrealistic hospitality. I thought this was interesting as a core belief. Never have I ever been welcomed anywhere like I was welcomed at this facility. Literally met me in the parking lot, which freaked me out just a little bit, I'm going to tell you. In this day and age, right? Somebody standing there waiting. It was literally amazing.

1:11:56 – 1:12:13Speaker 7

So that's the work that comes of this that started a decade ago that has now blossomed into a really beautiful relationship. And part of that is because of partnerships with the city. They mentioned the school districts, like they get it. So it was cool. That piece was cool.

1:12:13 – 1:12:58Speaker 7

I'll take that out of my district report this afternoon. I was going to talk about that. And then on eight sixty eight, I would point out, and I don't know this to be the case, but there may be an opportunity on that survey to partner with some of our commercial realtors to get really good survey data. I think they would help point you in the direction because they know what's sitting empty, and those employers probably aren't going to answer the survey unless prompted. We really need good information on that. My last comment is I'm going to give a shout out to Amy Kirkland from Seminole State who does a phenomenal job at the incubator out at the port for small businesses and has been doing so for a long time. We appreciate you.

1:12:58Speaker 9

Chairman? Commissioner Glory.

1:13:00 – 1:13:34Speaker 11

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Guy, staff, well done. I like the presentation, very detail oriented. On the form that you have there that shows the large employers, I'll come back to that real second. You did mention a little bit about the new expansion of the Bank of New York. How would that fit into that chart, not just for the employees, but square footage? And can you talk a little bit about that? Because that is a big project for us, and we didn't hear that much about it locally.

1:13:34 – 1:13:53Speaker 15

So the BNY Mellon expansion actually dates back multiple years. Wow. Yeah. It's it's actually multiple projects at this point, so it's very exciting. This was a project, through and through, that was brought to us by the Orlando Economic Partnership through their relationship.

1:13:53 – 1:15:09Speaker 15

It initially started off as Project Hub, and then through Project Hub, it grew into now the BNY Mellon expansion, and this may not possibly be the end of that expansion. So, one of the exciting parts is it is an unincorporated seminal, so we're very excited about that. But BNY Mellon did not come to the county for any local incentives. This is one of the projects that's had the highest wages, and to have a project such as this that may not be finished, even though we've seen reports out there already in the actual deliverables that we've seen for this project, there still may be more jobs, may be a capital expenditure or two, but we expect possible wages. This project dates all the way back to 2023, and one of the indirect impacts from this project has actually been towards the Colonial Town Park area as they're seeing their sales grow, as we've had qualitative data told to us, but also the Westin Hotel and the Hampton Hotel there that contribute into the Tourism Improvement District.

1:15:09Speaker 15

So, they have seen now their sales, rentals, food and beverage, and occupancy grow with this new market that has come in.

1:15:18 – 1:15:41Speaker 11

And so one of reasons why I wanted you to do all this was because on projects that may seem small in the beginning, they're not. And it takes time and a lot of cultivating, not just from our staff but from the OEPs and as as the region. So I want to compliment you all on that. So it's important for us to grow those small projects like you're doing. So I wanted to make sure

1:15:41Speaker 1

we talked about that. Thank you. Commissioner Constantine.

1:15:45 – 1:16:25Speaker 2

Thank you very much. First of all, Guy, as I go around the community all the way from, you know, Orange County through Volusia County, when people talk to me, one of the things that I'm always getting is, compliments from about you and your staff. So congratulations. Also, the same thing goes with, our relationship with OEP and how you have cultivated that relationship, you again, you and your staff, and how it's become great. The thing that you know, I I I was going to comment a little bit on, you know, the opening in New York because I saw the pictures, and they were phenomenal.

1:16:25 – 1:16:56Speaker 2

Mhmm. I was not there, but, you know, congratulations. And it's another example of how Seminole County sells itself. You know, I mean, like, from the very beginning, I thought that we were, you know, far too easy in in in trying to come up with incentives to come here when if you want to come to Central Florida, there is no school district. There is no location that has more of a friendly atmosphere in business relations.

1:16:56 – 1:17:16Speaker 2

You know, the best place to raise a family, best place to to live, you know, and the whole thing. So it's once again, it's just wonderful to see that that sales pitch is working as opposed to, I wanna come 20 miles and how much are you gonna give me? Thank you very much. Yes.

1:17:16Speaker 1

Commissioner Lockhart.

1:17:19 – 1:18:00Speaker 4

Very excited to see, the study as it moves forward and look forward to the ultimate report. Think measuring what we want to see happen in this community and whether or not incentives are the right way forward in certain projects will have a lot to do with the outcome of that study. How things are measured and why they're measured and we've talked about this before in other realms. Numbers are funny things, and you can make them show what you want them to show sometimes. So I am a little curious about the largest employer data.

1:18:05 – 1:18:42Speaker 4

We have an asterisk at the bottom that says that we don't use this doesn't include multi site retail employers. Yes. But it does include multi site health care delivery systems. Yes. So I'm a little perplexed. Does AdventHealth, does that include CentraCare? Do these include the doc in the box facilities as well? Or is this AdventHealth hospitals or the college? Like, what is tell me what if you can. Because I know these aren't your numbers. That's the other thing that I think is interesting is we have not we have not directly verified with each company these numbers. So OBJ doesn't always get it right.

1:18:42 – 1:18:59Speaker 4

We've noticed that before because they said that Seminole State College had 14,000 employees. We do not, by the way, putting on my college hat. So verifying numbers from OBJ is, I think, critical moving forward. So help me with understanding where these numbers are actually coming from and what they include.

1:18:59 – 1:19:28Speaker 15

So I'm going to ask Yadlana to come up as she handles our research and the vast sources that are on there. But one of the things to keep in mind, for example, if you consolidated those figures, and Irma's going to bring in the data, you're going to end up with Home Depot, you're going to end up with Publix as those being the largest employers, when we know not every Home Depot is owned by the same person. Not every Publix is owned by the same person. But it will

1:19:28Speaker 4

I think they are.

1:19:29 – 1:19:43Speaker 15

No, no. So it would make the retail companies, it would make the individual box become the largest employers altogether. So I'm going to bring Irma up to better explain this.

1:19:43Speaker 4

Maybe I want another column.

1:19:47Speaker 15

We can add that data for sure. Irma?

1:19:52 – 1:20:53Speaker 16

you for asking. The information specifically about AdventHealth includes about four different business names: AdventHealth Information Systems, Florida Hospital Sanitarium, and some other similar names that might change slightly. But it does not include like a physician's office or CentraCare unless they are when they report if when they report to the state their job numbers, if they are including in their CentraCare facilities or specific doctors' offices, but they are not in the data that I have. They're not specifically listed as individual doctors' offices or delivery centers, just hospitals. And they have, I think, living an facility and there's headquarters, those kinds of and different departments from their headquarters.

1:20:54 – 1:21:10Speaker 16

They did not list something like a college in this particular listing, but that's about five business names. For HCA, again, it's just, I think, one business name that they're reporting in there.

1:21:10Speaker 4

I'd love to better understand what's included in those numbers.

1:21:13Speaker 16

I can get that to you absolutely.

1:21:14Speaker 4

That would be super helpful. I'd love to understand it from the employer, not from Well,

1:21:21 – 1:22:10Speaker 16

this is not necessarily from OBJ. So we have I compiled so I have a column for what is the OBJ saying, what is the state saying, what is the data axle saying, what is the Dun and And Bradstreet I look at all of and some of them it's like, well this is not in Dun and Bradstreet but it's in EOBJ, this is not in DataX. And I looked at the numbers and it's like, oh this is way off and then we verify what the state is saying, what they are reporting to the state. That is data that is confidential and that we cannot specifically you know publicly say it so that's why I use different data sources so that we can round it up and do this kind of magic so we are not saying the state told us that this company has this many employees, know. So that's why we handle it that way.

1:22:10Speaker 16

But we're happy to definitely share all the details of all this data to you.

1:22:14 – 1:22:56Speaker 4

Yeah. Do think it's important. Yes, I understand you don't want to necessarily have all of, you know, every Publix employee, but I will tell you that is a huge workforce opportunity for our community. They are, I mean, I'm the fifth generation of my family shopping at Publix. I am a Publix girl, so I know that a lot of students who are students at Seminole State or high school students, Publix is a phenomenal opportunity for them to be. So I just, it kind of, I want them on the list. I just want them maybe in a different category if we want to categorize them differently, because I think retail jobs are important. When we look at that pie chart of Retail. I don't know what page it was on. Where was the pie chart?

1:23:02Speaker 4

Retail is 9.9%. It's probably the fourth largest piece of the

1:23:05Speaker 7

pie on the pie chart.

1:23:07Speaker 15

So, Commissioner, we can provide all the follow-up data. That is not an issue at Okay. Yes.

1:23:16 – 1:23:41Speaker 4

I think to commissioner Her's point talking about the funnels is if there's a I understand that maybe they all started out with being you know, they were in Osceola's pot bucket and they were in Seminole's bucket and then maybe they funneled down, but I'd like to see how many of those where did they start? Did they just look at Seminole initially, or were they looking at everything in the region? I'd love to kind of, like, get a better idea of what's at the top of the funnel.

1:23:41 – 1:24:02Speaker 15

And part of the detailed breakdown that we'll look at the funnel as well are the other counties that are also being considered within that project. That in the funnel, when you look at all the projects as of now, of now, for example, when we look at 42 total projects top of funnel,

1:24:03 – 1:24:20Speaker 15

confirm at the moment that we are the only county that those 42 projects are looking at. So we will also ask OEP so they know we are one of the sites for those 42 projects, but we may not be the only site for all 42.

1:24:20Speaker 4

I wanna know who we're beating out in the competition.

1:24:24Speaker 4

Because I think and commissioner Her, you know, clarify your question because I think you said you asked for Seminole specific and I think I just heard that that's not possible.

1:24:32 – 1:25:03Speaker 7

No, this is Seminole specific. So this is a sales funnel. So anytime you have a sales funnel and it's a prospect, it's a prospect somewhere else as well. So I would expect that of the 42 that are in that bucket, they're in somebody else's bucket as well. We haven't won yet. And what we could add to this chart is what's the average number of locations that they're looking at, and then you would know, because if it's two, then you have 21 are realistic opportunities. But

1:25:03Speaker 4

But maybe I don't understand. I thought this was retrospective.

1:25:07Speaker 4

So this isn't current. So we do know.

1:25:09Speaker 15

So this is from '25.

1:25:13Speaker 7

But they're not sold yet?

1:25:15Speaker 15

Yes, they're not. No. No, no. That's just the top

1:25:18Speaker 4

I'm sorry. I thought decision meant that seven had made a decision. Okay.

1:25:21Speaker 15

No, seven are in their decision phase.

1:25:26Speaker 7

So, from the top of a sales funnel this is a really good discussion, the space I live in. From the top of the sales funnel, the 25, very unrealistic.

1:25:36Speaker 7

Right. Doctor. Right? They're still deciding. They may not flow all the way through the funnel. They may fall out at some point. When you get down to the seven and they're we're still in play

1:25:45Speaker 7

For seven that are in final decision making stage, most likely

1:25:49Speaker 4

to sell. So they seven haven't decided for Seminole. They're in the process of making a decision.

1:25:54Speaker 7

Yes. But we're still in play, or they wouldn't be in there if it's a real sales Got

1:26:00Speaker 4

it. This is why this is not my business. Yeah. Okay.

1:26:04Speaker 7

I could talk about this for the next No, two we're good. No, no, no. We're good.

1:26:07 – 1:26:34Speaker 4

We're No. I appreciate the information. And I do love data, although I don't understand sales cycles. And I think it's really important so that we know that we're giving whatever our decisions may be as a board and policy decision that we give you moving forward, at least we understand exactly what it is that our decision is going to do, what is the result and the outcome that that influence is going to have on our community moving forward.

1:26:34Speaker 7

Because right now I I don't

1:26:36Speaker 4

think we fully understand what the whole big picture is. So thank you.

1:26:42Speaker 1

The most important one on that chart to me is the negotiation phase.

1:26:46Speaker 7

Yeah, they're reversed. Yeah. That should be on the bottom.

1:26:49 – 1:27:19Speaker 1

Yeah, that should be flipped around. So I think you may have touched on it, and maybe you were trying to be kind Yes. On the UCF Incubator. So I'm just going to ask the question. What is happening in the void of the City of Winter Springs deciding to defund the incubator for their prop share. After years of advocating, they wanted it in Winter Spring.

1:27:19 – 1:27:31Speaker 15

Yes. Yep. So we also have Rafael Camano here for oh, just left? No worries. So, we work very closely with Rafael Michael Weiss.

1:27:31 – 1:28:15Speaker 15

Michael Weiss is the site manager that's at the incubator in Winter Springs and also at Seminole State College. This would be the first month that they haven't received the grant funding from Winter Springs, so they're currently looking at offsetting the space that would pay for that grant funding with a partner over at the Winter Springs Incubator. This does not impact the expansion into Seminole State College, into Heathrow in any way. We're still filling those offices with the international companies there. But in Winter Springs, we are currently looking at, is that the best possible location to move forward?

1:28:15 – 1:28:53Speaker 15

Understood. University of Central Florida and Seminole County Economic Development, we believe there are other possible locations. And they do understand that the grant funding received, it is not tied in any way, city, to the current lease That that UCF is a private lease that they have with a landowner at the incubator site. But currently, the discussion on where would be a better location to continue growth for UCF Incubator, that is the discussion on the table with the county and UCF.

1:28:53Speaker 1

Fantastic. I appreciate that.

1:28:56Speaker 2

Had the occasion

1:28:57Speaker 1

Go ahead. I'm not done yet, but you can

1:28:58Speaker 2

Okay. No. I I wanted specifically on that.

1:29:01Speaker 11

No. It's fine.

1:29:01 – 1:29:27Speaker 2

I had I had a discussion yesterday on we were talking about another matter on UCF, and mister Kittenger, you know, we talked specifically about this. Not only is Gee right on accurate, but they are also, like I said, looking they if they're going to move, they wanna move just one time. They're looking at some place that would be more beneficial throughout Seminole County.

1:29:28 – 1:29:47Speaker 2

Winter Springs is in close proximity to UCF, and they no longer are giving money. And they did you know, quite frankly, they did try to go back to Winter Springs. Right. And at the next meeting, there was a motion, but and got a second, but it lost for the second time.

1:29:48 – 1:30:08Speaker 2

So they're they're but they are not giving up on Seminole County, and they're extremely thankful to Guy and his staff, but also to Seminole County commission and our continued support of this, and told me of a number of different projects that are extremely beneficial to Seminole County that they're working on as we speak.

1:30:08 – 1:30:39Speaker 1

That that's my understanding as well. Yep. So thank you very much. And also want to thank you and your team for being at the Sanford Orlando International Airport on Saturday Thanks. To welcome Aerojet, the new airline of The Dominican Republic who are making three flights a week now into the Sanford Orlando International Airport. And our chairman of the board from the airport, Mr. Kevin Bentley, is here. Kevin, thank you for being here, sir. Good to see you. Good good good work.

1:30:39 – 1:31:04Speaker 1

You you really put together, and I and I was told by the airlines representatives there that they have never ever been to an area or an airport and have been greeted as well as they were and treated as kind as they've been in opening up their new routes here to the Orlando area. So speaks volumes to the airport, your folks and so forth. Good work. Good work. Mr. Lockhart?

1:31:04 – 1:31:26Speaker 4

Would there be an opportunity, speaking of the airport in the future, to have some type of a presentation or work session to give us an update on developments like airlines that are coming or update on the property development, that sort of thing. Feel like I know you serve on that board for us, it might be good to just get a state of the airport

1:31:27 – 1:31:48Speaker 1

Yeah. We can get something put together. I'm sure that we can work on that. There there are some things that are in the works, and because the nature and the political nature of some of those things are unknown at this point as far as air carriers. It's just not a matter of picking up the phone and say, Delta come come set up shop here.

1:31:48Speaker 4

Yeah, know. But I I would love to understand that. Like I don't understand the nature of that because I've

1:31:51Speaker 19

never served on that board.

1:31:52Speaker 4

Right. And I don't know what that entails. I was actually having breakfast with some folks this weekend and they said, why aren't there more airlines at the Stanford Airport? And I was like, you know what, that's a really good question.

1:32:01Speaker 20

I'm sure there's

1:32:01Speaker 4

an answer. I, however, do not know it. So I would just like to be better educated.

1:32:06Speaker 1

Sure, absolutely.

1:32:09 – 1:32:24Speaker 7

Just to that point, I know it's great to go to South America from Sanford, but you can now go to New Jersey. There's been significant developments at the Sanford Airport. It's critically important. Atlantic City Bob's like, wait

1:32:24Speaker 7

Those eyebrows are in Atlantic City.

1:32:26 – 1:32:48Speaker 11

I try to use them as many times as I can. The airport's a great asset for us. Yeah. And it's a great economic engine, not just for Seminole County, but for the region. Yeah. And a lot of people don't realize the significance behind it. I would agree with commissioner Lockhart if there's an update that we can get, I think it'd be great. Mhmm. You know, we did an update transportation wise at MetroPlan and it was very informative.

1:32:49Speaker 4

Thank you. I'd love to learn more.

1:32:50 – 1:33:02Speaker 1

Hey, mister Bentley, you got your work cut out for you there. Can you make that happen? We'll make that happen. Good stuff. Thank you very much. Anything else for this group? Seeing none, thank you all very much. We appreciate it.

1:33:02Speaker 19

Happy birthday, Gates.

1:33:03Speaker 8

Yes. Happy birthday.

1:33:04 – 1:33:23Speaker 1

Enjoy the doughnuts. Next up is our work session involving the third generation 1¢ sales tax. And mister chairman mister John Slott and Ms. Tanya Lawrie from Jacobs. Welcome.

1:33:24 – 1:34:00Speaker 13

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As they get set up here, one of the discussions we have had the last year, year and a half, probably almost two years since I have been here is to finalize our third gen sales tax program and so we are happy to present you this morning with that. And do want to welcome Tanya Lohrey here from Jacobs. Tanya and I have worked together in many capacities in the past and probably one of the best people that I know that can help us with our sales tax program now and into the future. So with that, I'll turn it over to them.

1:34:08Speaker 13

to speak right into those.

1:34:12 – 1:34:45Speaker 10

Can you hear me now? Wonderful. Well, good morning, board of county commissioners and, county manager, County Attorney. We're here to present the next edition of the conversation we started back in the retreat in March around the how will we finish the generation three sales tax. So we have a lot of interesting activity going on, a lot of productivity and we have a few challenges, but we have a plan and we'd like to present it to you today.

1:34:45 – 1:35:42Speaker 10

I am flanked, Darren has just stated, by Tanya Lurie from Jacobs. You all have met her in many different capacities over the years and we're to echo Darren's point, we're excited that she's with us to help us not only with the generation three closeout, but also the generation four startup of the work plan of the work program for the generation four sales tax. Also, flanked by our county stormwater engineer and division manager, Owen Regan, who basically his teams maintain all the things that the teams create. So, they have to work in a symbiotic nature because what we create we do have to maintain and I know this board knows that but you'll see that in this plan as well. We're also supported by Christian Swenson from the County Manager's Office as well as Tim Jeks from the Office of OMB.

1:35:42 – 1:36:21Speaker 10

Alright, let's step right into the presentation. So we'll walk through a little bit of background. I think the Commission, you all know the background very well over all the years of experiencing the 1p sales tax and its projects. More for the community, we'll walk through the remaining Gen III projects and then what are our next steps and then we have an action request at the end of the presentation. The presentation will review those projects that remain in the Generation III work program, as well we'll look at the summary of the cash flows, so when will we spend the money.

1:36:21 – 1:37:08Speaker 10

So you'll see here how we are intending to prioritize the spending remaining in the Generation III sales tax, as well as the projects that are associated with that remaining spending. So we start here with an overview of the background of the generation three referendum. The referendum was intended to collect $366,200,000 We actually have spent to date $380,000,000 sorry, dollars 3 and 80,000,000.4. So we've spent more than the original tax referendum had envisioned. So with that spending, where did that spending go over the last ten years?

1:37:08 – 1:37:53Speaker 10

It went to all of those things we talked about. We had two major initiatives, the capital maintenance activities, so the road resurfacing, the pipelining activities, sidewalk programs, all of those types of programs. We also then on the project side had all those initiatives that you and your constituents said were important, as well as what our engineers said needed to be maintained. So we have those projects. As you can see, productivity has increased over the years as we spent the 1p sales tax on those initiatives that you and your fellow commissioners have stated are the priority and with the referendums conditions of what the money can be spent to.

1:37:53 – 1:38:25Speaker 10

In the last year, just over $60,000,000 of spend. So now we step into an overview. So this is what remains. So what remains really is we have that $380,000,000 that was already spent. We also one of the very good news items within this initiative was and thank you to the county commissioner and staff over the last ten years we're really able to leverage these funds to go get other federal and state funding.

1:38:26 – 1:40:01Speaker 10

So, you can see 175,000,000 on $380,000,000 that the team was able to generate in addition to the investment of our taxpayers and of our community. So as you all know, all the dollars are associated to existing projects within the budget, So that last remaining is $145,900,000 that is in the carryforward that you have seen moving into this year's budget. So as we move over to what remains, what remains is there is a $145,000,000 in the carry forward. We less out the budget request that we have in front of you today, the $22,000,000 We less out what it costs to maintain that infrastructure, the $19,700,000 What remains for the project side of the generation three spending is $103,700,000 So at this point in overall numbers, dollars 700,000,000 actual collections toward the 1p infrastructure sales tax on $380,000,000 of initial collections. So as we move the story forward, we started with many hundreds of projects that the that the county would like to have completed.

1:40:01 – 1:40:48Speaker 10

We are now down to double digits. So we began last fiscal year with 73 remaining projects. We were able to complete the staff has completed 13 projects, remaining 60. Those 60 remaining projects, of them as we stand here today, nine of that 60 are already substantially complete state or being finalized as we speak in the next few months. So, working from the bottom up on this chart, we have 30 projects that have funding from the 1p sales tax, We have 13 projects that are a composite, those leveraged funds, which are funded by 1p and then also funded by grants.

1:40:48 – 1:41:27Speaker 10

Then we have nine projects that were named in generation four as well as generation three, and we're going talk to you about those here in a second. And then we have eight projects that we believe are very good candidates for leveraged funds. Those are the intent there is to get them shovel ready and go look for some additional funding to to complete the construction. In this time, we still want to focus, of course, on the capital maintenance, maintaining all those the road resurfacing, the sidewalk programs, the traffic signals, and bridge repair. We want to right size and that's what we'll talk about here in a second when I turn it over to Tawny to walk us through the projects.

1:41:28 – 1:41:51Speaker 10

And we want to actually go after and this is something we're really excited with to really look for the support of the Board and others to really look for more leveraged funds to complete this work program, and then of course be prepared for the fourth generation sales tax and take that same benefit and apply it to those tax dollars.

1:41:52 – 1:42:23Speaker 19

Great. Thanks, John. Before I begin, I just want to say thank you for the warm welcome, and it's truly my honor to serve this county with moving your transportation program forward. So the next two slides are our opportunitychallenge slides. As John mentioned, as we started looking through your third gen program and looking at the monies that have been allocated into different phases, we started breaking those into the buckets that John just mentioned in the last slide.

1:42:23 – 1:42:59Speaker 19

And if you notice, there were two buckets that were not check marked, I'm going to spend a little bit of time talking through both of those. This is our first slide, is our prepare our shovel ready. These are the eight projects that John mentioned earlier. Now if you look at the dollar amounts that are remaining, you see six of them are all under that $4,000,000 mark. And as Commissioner DeLaury knows very well and the fellow commissioners, those are really good candidates for Metro Plan Orlando and some of those federal dollars that come in.

1:42:59 – 1:43:27Speaker 19

Those are your sidewalk projects or your intersection improvements. So we're going to continue your tradition of bringing the bacon home, so to speak, and really knock on those doors and get those dollars back into Seminole County. There are two projects on there, you'll notice, that have higher dollar amounts. That's Orange Boulevard as well as Slavia Road. So what we're doing with those two projects, we're looking at that especially Orange Boulevard.

1:43:27 – 1:43:51Speaker 19

And this is where John talks about right sizing a project. Where are the needs? Can we do some intersection improvements at lower dollar amounts to help alleviate some of this congestion? Or can we phase this project to bite, you know, break it into smaller bites at the apple so we can bring in additional federal dollars? We're also had even this last week talked with our grants departments.

1:43:52 – 1:44:36Speaker 19

Once the government reopens, what are opportunities for us, those build grants, or what name that they want to call it next? So we're really going to concentrate on looking and bringing dollars back to help these construction. DOT loves shovel ready projects, and that's what we're preparing these projects for. Next slide. Okay, the next bucket that was not check marked is what we call our fourth gen projects. So these are projects that started in Gen three, but they are also named in the referendum for Gen four. Now the good news with these projects, you see a lot of asterisks. Those already have leveraged dollars on it. They already have grant funding on it. So that'll help us as we move forward.

1:44:37 – 1:45:08Speaker 19

But what we're going to do really as early as next week is turn our attention to building out the fourth gen work program. So we're going to take a ten year and flow these projects. These are not the only projects that were named in the referendum, so we're going to start putting the puzzle together on what projects we can complete when. And we'd love to come back to you and present that to you in the spring of next year. So those are sort of our look ahead.

1:45:08 – 1:45:30Speaker 19

Now what are we doing right now to finish out your Gen three? I think I got a call on our very first day here, it was probably about a month ago, and Darren said, when are you going to be done with Gen 3? So there was no pressure at all in starting this job. So John mentioned it a little bit. We're going to continue our capital maintenance.

1:45:30 – 1:45:59Speaker 19

As he mentioned, it's our resurfacing, it's our sidewalks, it's our bread and butter to keep the traffic moving through this county. I mentioned earlier we're going to right size projects. Let's look at these big dollar amount, and what programs or what improvements can we put in place to help alleviate some of the congestion? And then, of course, looking to actively pursue those grant funds. I mean, dollars 175,000,000, that's something to be proud of.

1:45:59 – 1:46:51Speaker 19

You turned a $366,000,000 program into $7.00 $1,000,000 I mean that is really incredible in transportation and you all should be commended for that. So what we wanted to show you in the next couple slides is when we're going to be done with Gen three. So as we looked at your program and the schedule for the projects, the next couple of slides sort of shows you that $103,700,000 that John mentioned earlier in the presentation and and how are we going to flow through that through the next couple years? So this first slide sort of shows you the construction, design, right of way, and study phases of these projects that remaining. We look to be complete with Gen three in the next couple years, and that's really great.

1:46:51 – 1:47:25Speaker 19

That's a good feat two years after your fourth Gen referendum. So again, kudos, I'm coming in at a good moment, right? So that's how this data breaks down by project phase, and then the next slide shows those buckets, those five buckets that John started the presentation with and how that is flowing through the work program. So we have a big work program this year, dollars 72,000,000 is a big work program. We've got a lot of projects in construction now.

1:47:25 – 1:47:46Speaker 19

We just had a meeting yesterday. We've got a lot of projects that are finishing up with construction. We've got a lot of studies that are finishing up. We've got a lot of design projects that are finishing up. So we look forward to working with all of you to put third gen to rest and then start your fourth gen. And with that, I'll turn it back over to John.

1:47:46 – 1:48:25Speaker 10

Thank you, Tony. So as you can see, commissioners, the work is continuing. There is mighty work to complete and we have a plan. So that how do we complete the Gen three and put a bow on it is the intent of this discussion. It's also taking that and then leveraging it in and understanding all of the learnings of this entire team as well as with the support of our consulting teams to be able to say, how do we take all the learnings from the last three generations and take it into the fourth generation and appropriately set up an appropriate work plan for fourth gen.

1:48:26 – 1:48:52Speaker 10

What that'll mean is a lot of coordination upfront. So, at the direction of the county manager, Darren has asked us to be ready for a springtime generation four discussion with you and your fellow commissioners to be able to sit down and say, here's what the fourth generation plan looks like as well as keep going on the Gen three. So what we're going to do is start tomorrow. So maybe start this afternoon. Might have already started.

1:48:52 – 1:49:21Speaker 10

Yeah, we might have already started. But to the point would be go out and talk to the cities. We've heard from this board, the cities are very, very important partner to the 1p sales tax and therefore we need to coordinate with them, we need to understand what their needs are and we will need your help in those discussions. We'll also meet with our regional partners. DOT we've talked about, Tony brought up the key funding sources that the DOT can help with and have done over the years.

1:49:21 – 1:49:47Speaker 10

So we appreciate their partnership. Also of course the Turnpike, the Expressway Authority, and of course, Metroplan Orlando as our regional MPO and as Commissioner DeLaury as Chair today on that Board can assist us on these potential initiatives and hopefully help us bring back more of that money. Then, of course, as the federal government opens back

1:49:47 – 1:50:48Speaker 10

again, being well positioned for those grants that are coming out of the federal government and working with our teams and the lobbyists and so on to really make sure that the needs of Seminole County are understood at the federal level. And then finally, thank you for your authorization on our last meeting regarding the 2,050 MTP. That is the cherry on top, basically to be able to sync up with the Metroplan planning cycle and grab those new projects or potential projects that will inform your thinking around generation four and we'd layer those into the work program so that you can consider both everything that was considered in the fourth gen referendum already, as well as the new thinking that might come from that plan. With that, I'd also like to pause for a moment and just a big thank you. This was a herculean effort starting back in March to get us here.

1:50:48 – 1:51:21Speaker 10

I want to really truly appreciate the county manager's direction and vision as well as his staff support. This could not have happened without Mr. Jeks and his team, Sarah, doing some just yeoman's work very quickly and then I think Tawny, we said hello and she just got started. So she just jumped right from the frying van into the fire and came with us. And then of course Owen and his team our construction and design teams just diving in and making sure it happened.

1:51:21 – 1:52:09Speaker 10

I do want to share one special story a little bit too. What do our teams do when we're not watching? Our construction team, we were having our status meeting yesterday, major project, the Oxford Road project as you all are very very aware of. The team, these little small something extras, right, they went out to our construction partners, our contractors and said, hey, Halloween's coming up, let's make sure we have no construction debris on these sidewalks that we're working on so that the kids can have safe and fun Halloween. So no one asked them to do it, this is just the special people we get to work with and it was just a nice quiet moment and I'd like to just acknowledge Ted Holmes and his team on the construction side for just doing the simple things that make this a very special place to live.

1:52:09Speaker 10

With that, we will pause. We're here to answer any questions and we have a requested action for the approval of approval. Very good.

1:52:17Speaker 1

Yes, sir. Thank you very much. Any inquiries, questions, comments? Ms. Daragh.

1:52:25 – 1:53:07Speaker 7

So I to start by pointing out, and Tim may not like this math because you know his math is always just a little bit different than mine. It's probably righter than mine, but this is still good math. So if you take us back to slide eight eighty seven, so the tax generated $380,000,000 If I reduce that by 25%, so that's a low number, very conservative approach. 25% of that came from people outside of the county. Historically, we've said 30% of it comes from people outside of the county.

1:53:08 – 1:53:38Speaker 7

You get to about $285,000,000 of taxpayer investment by Seminole County taxpayers. And if I do an ROI to Seminole County taxpayers on that, it is a 2.46% return on every $1 that was put in, we get 2.46 back. That we need to not lose sight of that because when we talk about we miss the talk track about the leveraging of the dollars that we get. We talk about it

1:53:38Speaker 1

No, we didn't.

1:53:39 – 1:54:20Speaker 7

Well, we talk about it loosely, but we're not talking about it specific to the ROI on this after the fact of both calculations. And it's remarkable, so I just wanted to point that out. I would like to have a general conversation with the backdrop of the conversation being Orange Boulevard and the notion of phasing a project or rightsizing the project so that the components can get leverage dollars. How is that going to feel to citizens that are living through the construction on their main only entrance and exit from their homes.

1:54:22 – 1:55:17Speaker 10

Thank you, commissioners. So the on Orange Boulevard, just setting a little bit of the groundwork, this project extends Orange Boulevard from just under I 4 all the way to 46 are the terminus of the project. It includes separated trail as well as trail connectivity up into the Wekiva long term, and then most of it is drainage and safety across that whole corridor, so there's a lot of retention and a lot of just basic blocking and tackling of good roads and stormwater infrastructure being put in place on a road that has not been maintained up to that level to this point. So that's the framing of the project. So one of the things that's made it a difficult project is that they've had to separate all of the water retention and stormwater assets across the whole corridor.

1:55:18 – 1:55:53Speaker 10

So what we're asking our design folks to look at is how do we break this up in an appropriate manner instead of looking at a $40,000,000 project straight off the gate, can we break it into phases logically? So one of the logical separations is the Smith Lockhart Canal system. So to the east one phase, to the west another phase. That still leaves a very big phase to the Commissioner's Point on the West Side Of Orange Boulevard. So we're really asking our engineers to take a peek at this and say, wait a second, is there another way to split this up?

1:55:54 – 1:56:09Speaker 10

And to use a public works or construction term, we also have to consider the MOT, the management of traffic. So how do we make sure that these citizens can get to and from their homes on

1:56:09 – 1:56:25Speaker 10

daily for all the things they want to do during what will be a quite a long project. So I think that's what Tani had just referenced. We've got to think more deeply about that and we've got to think a bit and thank you, Commissioner, from the lens of how it impacts the community.

1:56:25 – 1:56:49Speaker 13

And if I could add just one point and one of the questions that you asked and then going back out to the community, talking to them because what makes sense to us may not make sense to the community on really what boots on the ground and so keeping the community involvement, having them with us every step of the way of project and ensuring that, you know, that they understand how the project is moving forward as well.

1:56:50 – 1:57:24Speaker 7

I appreciate that because I think when we talk about that and don't frame it with the idea that we are worried about how they get to and fro, it's probably going to raise concerns. So that's in the mix. I just want to make a comment around Midway. I know the projects that we've already accounted for in Midway, and I just want to and I do this in every single briefing that I'm in. The work that we did on Midway was the start to getting that infrastructure up to par.

1:57:24 – 1:57:59Speaker 7

It was not final, so it's in fourth gen as well, and we need to make sure that we transition from one to the other without a big gap in time. My last comment. But I think the work that you've done is I'm not looking at you, I'm looking at the entire team. The work that's been done to push stuff through this funnel is amazing. And the fact that you start slow and then ramp up, but you still had the second gen that was tagging on top of that, and that piece is lost in that one graphic. But it is amazing. So thank you, Chairman.

1:58:00Speaker 1

Bet. Anyone else? Commissioner DeLaury. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

1:58:05 – 1:58:16Speaker 11

I would like to continue the conversation that Commissioner Her was just saying that it's not been easy. And one of the reasons why it's not been easy because of the increased cost

1:58:17 – 1:59:14Speaker 11

not just materials but also manpower. And there's another factor here that we don't really talk about a lot, and that is that when large projects come into the region, like I-four or the 417 or whatever project it is, it sucks up a lot of bandwidth of capacity of construction workers, which increases the cost as well as it sucks up the bandwidth of engineering firms. So it doesn't go unnoticed that it does take time and it is difficult to get these projects done. Even the small projects, as people may think it's just a small sidewalk project that's only a couple $100,000. Even though that is real money, but it does get inflated, so you should all be commended for all the work that you're doing.

1:59:15 – 1:59:29Speaker 11

Two issues I'd like to discuss. You mentioned, John, reaching out to the seven cities about you're talking about their projects or about our projects or both of them or how to dovetail that? But can you elaborate on that, please?

1:59:29 – 1:59:58Speaker 10

Yes, Commissioner. And I think one of them at your direction as well as your fellow commissioners. So an example would be the Slavia Road project that is currently in the generation three. At your bequests, we were going to fund that with 1p ostensibly by the county. We took that back, went out to the city of Oviedo and got them to agree to a share. So they are coming to the table with a 30% share.

1:59:59Speaker 11

Slavy Road is not in the city.

2:00:01Speaker 10

I'm sorry, 426.

2:00:03Speaker 11

4 Yeah, apologize. It's long project. About that. Okay.

2:00:07Speaker 10

ILA. Yeah, yeah. So the ILA.

2:00:10Speaker 10

Been a long day, yeah.

2:00:11Speaker 1

Sorry about that.

2:00:13 – 2:00:35Speaker 10

Yes, so the 4 26 extension. Basically this project they were able to now come into and help us in the design, and they are also interested in looking at the potential construction as well. So that's a perfect example of a named project where the municipal will come in and help us out. The city will come in and So

2:00:35Speaker 11

you're talking about the city's projects and also working with us to elaborate on your dollars as well?

2:00:40 – 2:01:06Speaker 13

Yeah. And if you remember commissioner, we had on the referendum, we had joint projects like a joint shared list and so and I have been working with all the city managers during that process as well as well as Mr. Switzson when we started this is that now we're ready to start meeting with the cities as we start collecting, looking at what joint projects that we both agree upon and how we move forward. That's what we will be taken back to this board once we work with them.

2:01:06 – 2:01:22Speaker 11

Can you also discuss with us I know the transportation mask plan has not been finalized yet. It should be finalized the first quarter, plus or minus, next year. I'm sure that's going to be dovetailed in this as well. Can you explain how that's going to work?

2:01:23 – 2:02:10Speaker 10

Absolutely, Commissioner. So for everyone, what we've at your direction, what we did was we took the 2045 TMP, the Transportation Master Plan, recast that as the 2,050 MTP, ostensibly to align to the regional planning efforts, so to align to Metroplan Orlando's process. So we will conduct that project through this last quarter and then into first quarter of next year. What that will allow us to do is take all of that data and bounce it against what was in the generation the fourth generation referendum and be able to say, here are additional projects for your consideration based on the new data and the new learnings. So that's the intent there.

2:02:10Speaker 10

And then at Darren's direction, we would bring that back to you and your fellow commissioners.

2:02:14Speaker 11

So I guess you'll be putting this data into the master plan to see how all that shakes out then? Absolutely. Okay, Great. I

2:02:20Speaker 1

think, Mr. Chairman. Anyone else? Commissioner Lockhart.

2:02:26 – 2:03:03Speaker 4

Talking about collaborating with the cities is great. I also want to see additional further collaboration between road storm water and water quality. I think we have a great opportunity to focus on that this year. And so as we're looking at these projects, any opportunity that we have to also improve water quality in the region, whether it's a perceived retention pond that may eventually flow into the Lockhart Smith Canal that then flows into Lake Monroe. We we really need to emphasize that as much as possible as a and I know I've been asking for breakdowns.

2:03:03 – 2:03:42Speaker 4

Well, water water which one which of these projects impact water quality and which of these are just, you know, just paving and then I got the whole pipelining speech. But but I really think that any time where we're talking about spending money, we need to be able to at least say this this we either can or cannot improve water quality, and if we can, this is how we plan to do it. I would love to see that because I think that would be great. And Owen's amazing, and Kim's amazing, and their teams are all amazing, and they do work together very well. But I don't think we have been as intentional as a board in funding projects that give them the very firm nod that this is important to our board.

2:03:42 – 2:04:25Speaker 4

We know it's important to our citizens. So that's one thing. The other thing I wanted to touch on is on the back page of this item before you get to the actual BAR, page eight twenty eight in my agenda book, there's the list of projects that were not reimbursed by FEMA. And I don't know if it's in your PowerPoint or not. But I think this further solidifies this board's conversation and discussion around making sure that we have adequate reserves and funds for things that FEMA will not be reimbursing. And I think, Tim, you would you did some math for me on these, and I I'm sorry. I don't have it in front of me. Do you remember the total?

2:04:26 – 2:04:49Speaker 21

I do. I'm Timothy Jex with the Office of Management and Budget. After hurricane Milton, there were six roadways that were damaged and required drainage mitigation. These are projects that would have initially been reimbursed primarily by FEMA. The total was about $4,000,000 and we've learned that we're not going to be getting that reimbursement so we had to switch that to county funds.

2:04:49Speaker 4

So not great news, but great that we've been thinking about it and planning ahead because we know we're going see more of this. So thank you very much.

2:04:56Speaker 4

Appreciate that. Great work. I'm excited about moving forward. And thank you again, Tani, for coming on board.

2:05:05Speaker 1

Commissioner Costing, go ahead.

2:05:08 – 2:05:35Speaker 2

Thank you very much. Just to say, the key to this, and I it's been it's been stated in many different ways by the my fellow commissioners, is the results and that the citizens see those results. I think one of the things that we did that we just blew over and don't think much about is the is the signs, 1p sales tax at work. I've seen that. So many people have said something to me.

2:05:35 – 2:06:08Speaker 2

You know, that's a great idea. I mean, from other counties, they said that's a great idea. We should be doing that too. But I just wanted to reiterate also what commissioner Lockhart just said about and and not just because of water, but, you know, making sure that whenever we do something, we're looking at other positive results we can do with it, not just going ahead and paving the road, but, okay, what other problems do we have in this area? Let's see if we can take care of them with this project or through this project.

2:06:08 – 2:06:27Speaker 2

So I think that's very, very important. And I I agreed with the other commissioners, commissioner Hernd, commissioner Zinbauer, when they said things about leveraging. It's amazing that, you know, we we did talk about it, but not as much as we talked about, hey. 30% is coming from other people.

2:06:27 – 2:06:40Speaker 2

You know, the leveraging of, hey. And we've got this, and now we can draw down monies from other areas is is extremely important and gives us even more bang for the buck. That's it.

2:06:40 – 2:07:17Speaker 1

Thank you. If you could go to slide number five. Before we get into that, I just want to say that what I'm hearing here is something that I've always wondered about when you talk about water quality, so on and so forth, is a simple ranking of each project, And whether it has positive, negative, or neutral impact environmentally is something I would love to see. It could be used as a ranking perhaps by this Board as to what benefits, you know, overall should be moving forward.

2:07:19 – 2:07:56Speaker 1

So I would say everybody's been thankful to staff, so I'm not going to reiterate that. But I will tell you, if you look at this graph, I'm thrilled to death. I'm thrilled that we have kicked this finally in high gear to get delivery out, especially during a pandemic, following up with after the pandemic when we had, you know, supply chain issues, labor issues, this is great. I was banging on the table before I was ever elected here that they couldn't spend the money quick enough to get the job done. This tells the story.

2:07:57 – 2:08:27Speaker 1

So fantastic work. Fantastic that we're actually getting there. There there's always going to be speed bumps and hurdles and hiccups on any project, and we have to deal with those as they come. But this portrays really a movement in the right direction to get these projects done on behalf of our citizens who've been waiting to have them done and also being able to see those leverage dollars play out. So thank you.

2:08:27Speaker 10

Thank you, Chairman.

2:08:28Speaker 1

That's all I have. And I'll move for someone Requested to action, sir. Yes, sir.

2:08:35 – 2:08:52Speaker 7

I move to approve the Chairman to execute a resolution implementing the budget amendment request 205DashO53 in the amount of $22,551,777 to realign budgets for existing infrastructure projects. Second.

2:08:52Speaker 1

Motion is second. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Opposed, like sign? Seeing none, carries unanimous. Thank you all very much.

2:09:01Speaker 2

Thank you. Next

2:09:04 – 2:09:17Speaker 1

item is going to be item 31, fourth generation sales tax project priorities. It's going be assistant county manager, mister Christian Swenson, and mister Tim Jeks, manage management and budget office budget director. Sorry.

2:09:25 – 2:09:58Speaker 13

And chairman and commissioners, as they're setting up here, just to start off again, is that now that we're ending third gen, as you saw in the last presentation over the last for the next couple of years, And the Fortune Transportation sales tax projects will be coming to you in the spring as we'll go through that work session. There are a few projects that are not non transportation related that I want to make sure we talked about it at our retreat in this past March, I but wanted to bring it to the Board so we can start moving on a few of these projects. So that's the purpose of the next presentation.

2:10:00 – 2:10:15Speaker 8

Good morning, Chairman and Commissioners. Christian Swenson, Assistant County Manager. I'm here with Tim Jeks, the Budget Director. And as Darren mentioned, we're here to talk about fourth gen sales tax non transportation related projects that are initially contemplated. Kristen, you

2:10:15Speaker 13

may have pulled that mic. You may

2:10:16Speaker 10

All my power to voice. Those you have to.

2:10:18Speaker 8

All right. Can you hear me better? All right. I apologize.

2:10:21Speaker 7

We can't afford new ones.

2:10:22Speaker 1

No, no worries. Budget cuts, sorry. Budget cuts.

2:10:26 – 2:11:04Speaker 8

So with this, we're going to do the standard agenda that we do in our presentations. We'll talk about the purpose, the background. I'll turn it over to Tim for the background. He'll give you kind of a history of that. He'll turn it back to me to talk about potential projects and then we'll talk about next steps and questions and so forth. So as Darren mentioned, this is to talk about the non transportation related fourth gen sales tax projects and establish initial priorities. So what we're looking with this just from a more administrative understanding of what we're doing, we really just want to create projects, accounts, and get started on these things. Not necessarily apply the budget yet, but establish them legitimate projects in the budget and begin the administrative process.

2:11:04Speaker 1

That's a high level conversation at this point. Correct?

2:11:07Speaker 8

That is a 100% correct.

2:11:09Speaker 8

you. So with that, I'm going turn it over to Tim, and he's going to give you a background of the sales tax. And as mentioned, he'll pass it back to me.

2:11:14 – 2:11:54Speaker 21

Thank you, Christian. The fourth gen sales tax referendum passed in November 2024 with 73% voter approval. It's a ten year tax, and revenues are restricted to be used on public infrastructure improvements. The first three generations focused on transportation infrastructure like roadway preservation, flood prevention and drainage, trails, traffic improvements, sidewalks, water quality, and bridges, and the fourth gen referendum was expanded to include parks and other public infrastructure. When we started the process of developing the fourth gen sales tax, we worked with our public works department, parks department, and facilities department to identify needed improvements.

2:11:54 – 2:12:41Speaker 21

We looked at historical actual expenditures and future needs, and the fourth gen referendum was built based on the approximate funding shares shown here. We anticipate to collect 650,000,000 over the next ten years with 400,000,000 going to transportation and stormwater and 250,000,000 going to parks and other infrastructure. Revenue collections began in January 2025 and for nine months in fiscal twenty five we collected $40,000,000. In fiscal twenty six, the current year, we're projecting to collect another 50,000,000 for a total of $90,000,000 currently available to allocate towards projects. Sales tax revenues can be pledged towards debt service but the term of the debt cannot be longer than the term of the revenue.

2:12:41 – 2:13:04Speaker 21

So a simple example where we took the $250,000,000 totally available for parks and infrastructure, That would be a $25,000,000 annual debt service which would generate $210,000,000 in immediate proceeds and would cost about $40,000,000 in interest at 3% with a ten year term. Now I'm going to turn it back over to Christian to talk about individual projects. All right. Thank you, Tim.

2:13:05 – 2:13:37Speaker 8

All right. So based upon a series of meetings, board meetings and retreats over the last year, we've identified some projects that we think are at the forefront of this effort. So I'm going to go through I'm going to just run through these and then I'll spend a little bit talking about each one. So we're going talk about Animal Services Building, County Administration Building, Medical Examiner Building, the Roland Hills Park Project, Rosenwald Property, and then the WB Equestrian Center Building that's on it. So the first one I want to chat about is the Animal Services Building.

2:13:37 – 2:14:20Speaker 8

Alan Harris was here and kind of briefed you on the state of animal services during the budget process and highlighted a number of these things. But what we're looking for is an expansion of the current animal services shelter to include additional kennel space. There's been some conversation about capacity and things like that that would hopefully relieve that, as well as an HVAC system to bring the temperature of the existing as well as the new kennels down to meet regulatory levels as well as some associated building upgrades. With the creation of this project, would start an RFP development process for both the architect and Centimeters, which is fairly standard on our projects. The next project to be discussed is the County Administration Building.

2:14:21 – 2:15:06Speaker 8

This would be a multi story administration building and parking garage. It would house the BCC staff, BCC chambers, property appraisers, tax collector. It's a replacement of this building with some other accoutrements in it for other staff members to bring in. On today's agenda, you obviously saw this with a recommendation for both the architect and the Centimeters. So the next slide is the medical examiner facility. That's another one we've talked about. As you all are aware, we are currently in a partnership with District five. That is an agreement that finishes in 2029. We're looking to do our own medical examiner facility. It is questionable right now whether that's a facility that will include Lake County.

2:15:06 – 2:15:48Speaker 8

They've expressed some desire to do that or a facility that will do it alone. So this project would contemplate the programming of both of those style facilities, but more importantly would include a full medical examiner suite, offices, autopsy, forensic space, laboratories, things like that. The RFP for the architecture has closed. We actually just did a short listing yesterday and we're scheduling those presentations to go further in the process. The construction manager RFP will close on the October 29 and construction is planned to be complete for the 2029, which would mirror the agreement we have with District five.

2:15:48 – 2:16:14Speaker 8

The next project to discuss is the Rolling Hill Park. Everyone's familiar with that. That's the former golf course that's being converted into a regional park that will include obviously park amenities as well as road improvements and then trail improvements. The guaranteed maximum price for the construction manager is currently being negotiated with staff. We're hopefully bringing that back to the November 18 board agenda for approval and moving that forward.

2:16:16 – 2:16:49Speaker 8

The next project, another one that was on the consent agenda this morning or at least a portion of it was the Rosenwald project. This is we've contemplated this as a three phase project to kind of catch up the construction. It's been around for a little bit of time, so we're breaking it into more manageable chunks to be able to get it built faster and catch up with that. So the first phase was the one that was over the GMP on the agenda today is a pavilion and hardscape, the trails that kind of go connect that. Phase 1B is site amenities to do with the lake, which is fish impuring and a kayak launch.

2:16:49 – 2:17:17Speaker 8

And then the third, or what we're calling phase two, is the community center building construction itself. So as mentioned, the phase one GMP was on the agenda this morning. Phase Ib is currently in design. We're anticipating construction to be estimated for the '6 and the Phase II community center for the '6. The next project we're contemplating is the WB Equestrian Center project.

2:17:17 – 2:17:37Speaker 8

As you know, this was purchased last year and kind of a land bank project to do something with that facility up there. On there, there is a building. It is a horse barn, which sounds a bit odd as we're talking about horse barns, but it's not a horse barn like you would traditionally think of a horse barn. Is a block building. It is extremely, extremely well built.

2:17:37 – 2:18:03Speaker 8

It is open to the elements. The current property owner has to vacate the park by April. That's what the sales agreement was. We would like to go in there and move some staff in there, button up the building, and have a staff presence. Sometimes when you leave buildings by themselves and there's not a staff presence on there, a decay process starts, there's not people that can find, you know, there's not people that see the problem and then it further exacerbates itself.

2:18:03 – 2:18:29Speaker 8

So we would just like to kind of establish a presence in there and then get that so we don't run the risk of that. So right now, we're just working with an on call architect just contemplating a scope and trying to develop a proposal for that. So the next steps is if everyone's agreeable to these projects, we would bring budget amendments back for the individual projects as they're needed at the appropriate time. So with that, I'd just like to turn it back to the Board for questions.

2:18:29Speaker 1

Okay. We'll start with Commissioner Her.

2:18:33Speaker 7

So we have 250,000,000 available spread out over the duration of the fourth gen. What's the total of all of those round numbers?

2:18:46Speaker 8

Give me a second to work my pen and can I come back to you and I'll just roughly I'll give

2:18:51Speaker 7

tell you why I'm asking?

2:18:52 – 2:19:03Speaker 8

Again, one thing I want to you know, I'm going to work a pen here, but it's not it's going to be very rough. Obviously, the programming and what the Board's desired for some of these things would come in there and that would have an impact.

2:19:03Speaker 7

Oh, yeah. We're I'm going to double whatever you say because then it comes back right.

2:19:06Speaker 8

Don't do that, please. All right. Give just a second if you want. I can do two things at once, maybe not well, but I'll I'll I'll come back as you ask other questions.

2:19:14 – 2:19:43Speaker 7

Well, I'll I'll tell you why I'm asking. You know, the notion that we're already talking about debt is unsettling to me. Just gonna go on the record. Some of this stuff is not have to have, and there's a ten year duration. And so if we could potentially cash flow this out over time without taking on $40,000,000 worth of interest for debt service, that would be fabulous.

2:19:43 – 2:20:02Speaker 7

But I have no earthly idea what the wish list costs. I I know animal services, 20,000,000 of the 250,000,000 probably needs to be phased early on. I have an idea on Rolling Hills. I think we have an idea on Rosenwald. That probably has to be put in early. We've been working on that those two for a while.

2:20:06 – 2:20:37Speaker 13

And if the the reason I threw I had them throw in the debt service is just as an option, as we start, I'm sure we'll have another retreat in the spring and that we'll start talking about projects and that was asked by a few about if we wanted to fast track some of these projects, what would the debt look like? And so that was just a scenario that we had put on there. So that is not we haven't made any decisions as you all would make that decision, but just we wanted to since it was a question that was asked, we wanted to make sure we covered it.

2:20:37Speaker 7

Yep. I thought I'd get it out on the record that I'm a little freaked out by it.

2:20:40Speaker 8

Oh, I was done oh, sorry.

2:20:43Speaker 4

Sorry. Go ahead. I wanted to chime in on the debt conversation.

2:20:46Speaker 1

Okay. Anything else on that?

2:20:48Speaker 4

If you've got if

2:20:49Speaker 19

you've math number.

2:20:50 – 2:21:21Speaker 8

I have the, yeah, I have the mathematics done. So I I just ran through there. And again, this can go higher or lower. Mean, this is all we're doing is establishing project codes. So this is order of magnitude, so the programming can go out. This is I don't want anyone here. So two ten, two fourteen. As Tim indicated, you know, there's 50,000,000 now. The thing to keep in mind about these projects is the projects that we talked about are going out to 2029. So commissioner Her, you know, there's not a shortage of cash flow to do any of the this work that we need to do right now.

2:21:21 – 2:21:54Speaker 8

This is all preliminary work. Yep. This is this is stuff that when you put it out on a scale, it slides. It's not all that money now, And these projects, like I said, easily will go three, four, five years to get there. And that's why, you know, when you look at 50,000,000 a year, it's a notion, but it seems like these are doable within that time and possibly by the cash flow. But again, this is Christian in about two seconds given a real rough order of magnitude, not based on any programming or design or things like that.

2:21:54 – 2:22:24Speaker 7

Mr. Jacks is really unnerved by us doing math like this, but I can tell. And by the way, a shout out because you got asked a question that probably it was a really good question, but you were able to stand up and give a number. That's amazing. That's how in tune you are with this our It's amazing. I just wanted to point so I would have come up with I thought it was in range, which is why I asked for you to do it, and I think that's how we should be thinking. So I appreciate that. Thank you, Chairman.

2:22:24 – 2:23:09Speaker 1

Sure. So for me, I think it's a bit premature to have this discussion. I think this is a high level discussion. I'm looking forward to more detail in each project that this board will ultimately approve or not approve and the cost thereof. I understand this is broad and so forth. So I'm not ready to have the discussion at this point until we get deeper into understanding what board direction is going to be ultimately given for each project as well as the cost and delivery method. So this is a good appetizer, if you will, for where we'll ultimately end up. We have to start that conversation somewhere, but that's where I plan for that. So anyone else? Well,

2:23:10Speaker 11

You can go to to Lee. I'll come back.

2:23:12Speaker 1

Mister Konstantin, then Lockhart, then DeLore. Sure.

2:23:15 – 2:23:35Speaker 2

But it's good to know that you're thinking ahead of that. That's I I concur this is something that I'm looking forward to getting in-depth as to exactly specifics on what we're going to do with each one, but it is nice that we're listing them and we're putting them in this proper situation that we can or cannot, you know, pay for them.

2:23:36Speaker 1

Commissioner Lockhart.

2:23:38 – 2:24:02Speaker 4

I agree. This is meant to be a high level. We're establishing project lines, and and the the devil's always in the details, for sure. But I do think you're looking for some sort of reflection back from this board that you're on the right track and what you're saying you're doing is something that we are collectively giving you the head nod to move forward with, even though we're not going to get into the weeds with you. Is that correct?

2:24:03Speaker 2

Correct. Or say yes or no.

2:24:05 – 2:24:22Speaker 4

Well, I think we're giving that we are we are by consensus saying that we could incur with establishing these project lines. Right? So we don't know exactly the number that's going to be in them. We have some round numbers, but we're because we've already committed to these in one way, shape, form. Okay.

2:24:23 – 2:24:55Speaker 4

As far as the debt goes, I think what I took away from the slide referring to debt was that in in this situation, in these circumstances, debt doesn't make sense. The math doesn't work to do that. There are some projects and sometimes when debt does make sense, and I think that slide tells us that isn't one of those times right now to contemplate that. And so that's good because that can kinda confirm some other conversations that we've had on this on this board. But great to be looking ahead.

2:24:55 – 2:25:10Speaker 4

Looking forward to more details down the road. It's it's great that we have this opportunity, that our citizens have trusted us with these additional funds so that we can do some of these really important projects for the community. So excited. Good times.

2:25:11 – 2:25:52Speaker 11

Commissioner Glory. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I concur with everything that you've all been saying. I just want to not go into the details in repeating it. But to the extent that borrowing money to move these projects forward, I would not be interested in that. We haven't done that in the past. I don't see that to be a starter, to be honest with you. And this is just the beginning of the conversation, and I have no problem with making these project line items to have these discussions. We're going need to get more information about what these projects really look like, what the operation and maintenance are and forward, and there's a lot more conversation. So good work looking forward and look forward to having more conversations. Thank you. All right.

2:25:53Speaker 1

Anyone else final? Do you believe you have direction, sir?

2:25:57Speaker 1

Thank you. Very good. Anything else you all have to add?

2:26:01Speaker 8

No. Thank you. Appreciate Thank the

2:26:03 – 2:26:14Speaker 1

you all very much. All right. That wraps up our morning session. Anybody else have anything good for the order before we go into recess?

2:26:14Speaker 7

Happy birthday, geek.

2:26:15 – 2:26:58Speaker 1

Yeah. We shall be in recess till 01:30. Okay. Service Recognition Awards, miss Christina Brandolini. Good afternoon.

2:26:58 – 2:27:14Speaker 20

Good afternoon, chairman and commissioners. This afternoon, we have the pleasure of recognizing several employees for their service to Seminole County. Allison Thall with Community Services will lead us off with recognizing Carrie Longsworth, Community Assistance Division Manager with twenty years of service.

2:27:21 – 2:27:37Speaker 22

Good afternoon, commissioners. It is my pleasure today to introduce you, because you already know her, to Carrie Longsworth. So Carrie is a native Floridian who grew up in Oviedo and graduated from Oviedo High School and from UCF.

2:27:40 – 2:28:32Speaker 22

I was gonna say that, but then I thought I'd Yeah. On a Carrie started with Seminole County in the Community Services Department Oh, on August 2005 as a part time customer service representative while attending college. She worked her way up through the community assistance division and became the division manager in 2017. During the pandemic, Carrie led the division through the CARES, the ERAP, the ARPA, and the funding blitz, pushing over $40,000,000 out the door to residents in need to remain in their homes while also managing the nonprofit and homeless diversion funding. Carrie oversees programs providing financial support to the community's most vulnerable residents, whether through rental subsidy, housing the homeless, and working with our nonprofit providers to deliver much needed services in our community.

2:28:33Speaker 22

I am proud to have Carrie on the community services team. Thank you for your twenty years of service to Seminole County.

2:28:46Speaker 1

And I would add that Carrie is an invaluable asset to the AHAC.

2:28:54 – 2:29:05Speaker 20

Alan Harris, emergency management director, has several employees this afternoon that he will be recognizing. First, we have Michael Fraeher, Animal Services Investigator with twenty years of service.

2:29:09Speaker 12

So for the record, Alan Harris, Director

2:29:12 – 2:30:00Speaker 12

Management. Investigator, Michael, does our investigations for our aggressive dogs, bite investigations, dangerous dogs, does a lot of work on animal cruelty and prevention of hoarding cases. Many of you actually have done some ride alongs, and I know you've ridden along with him, and you've seen what he does out in the field, it's quite something. I really appreciate Michael, his strength in looking into cases that are brought up to us and investigating those and preventing future animal cruelty. One thing also that Michael didn't know I was gonna mention today is he's got a new title, and that is leader of our Geneva EMU response team.

2:30:00 – 2:30:13Speaker 12

Oh, boy. So, Michael's been doing that. He's actually every once in a while when the EMU gets loose, Michael is the one that goes out and works with the family to get the emu. So congratulations on your twenty years. Thank

2:30:14Speaker 2

You look back.

2:30:18 – 2:31:08Speaker 12

For twenty five years, I I really don't I don't think I think that we really need to everybody knows who this person is. So, Tommy Oliveros is, very well known, throughout the entire state of Florida. He serves on multiple, communications, subcommittees for the State Homeland Security Group, the Urban Area Security initiative for Central Florida. When the Stoneman Douglas tragic event happened, down in South Florida, the state legislation put out that we needed to have interoperable networks that communicated, that police and law enforcement in each city and county could speak to each other. And, when Tommy and I, met, right after that to make sure that all the checks were, you know, all the boxes were checked, what we already knew that we had already connected that.

2:31:08 – 2:31:38Speaker 12

Here in Seminole County, we had an interoperable network for decades, before that, and that's due to Tommy's proactive thinking. All of our network, from the school bus to the police car to the government vehicle to Seminole State College, all of those are on interoperable network. We all communicate throughout the entire and that's because his of his proactive thinking. And it's been an honor working with him. We started almost about the same time our public service here in Seminole County.

2:31:38 – 2:32:03Speaker 12

It's it's an honor to have you as my partner and and work work coworkers. So thank you. So for thirty years, it's the voice of animal services. I don't know. Mark, if you call animal services Monday through Friday, this is the lady 90% of the time that's gonna pick up the call.

2:32:04 – 2:32:47Speaker 12

Over 1,400 field calls, per month on average. And she picks up the calls, dispatches the folks, if anyone's in trouble out in the field, and it is a a dangerous situation sometimes. It's an individual alone, an animal control officer out in the field in in front of someone that may not be too happy that a dog just bit them or a dog got loose or whatever, and Marlene is on the other side protecting those animal control officers when they need help, and also being the comforting voice for people that are calling us when whenever there is an issue. So, Marlene, thank you for your thirty years of service. We wouldn't be able to do this without you, so thank you.

2:32:54 – 2:33:05Speaker 20

Chief Mack Kinley will be recognizing several fire department employees as well as a recent retiree. And we will start with Laura Simpson, emergency communications dispatcher with twenty years of service.

2:33:12 – 2:33:33Speaker 23

Good afternoon for the record. Matt chief Matt McKinley, fire chief Seminole County. Twenty years of service. Laura Simpson began her public safety career in 2000 after relocating to Pennsylvania where she completed firefighter training and proudly served for three years. In 2005, she returned to Florida and transitioned into emergency communications as an emergency communications dispatcher.

2:33:33 – 2:34:10Speaker 23

Over the years, she advanced through the ranks and has served as communications training officer for over a decade, training many, if not all, of our current personnel. With more than twenty years of experience in the fire service and emergency dispatch, she has remained deeply committed to public safety and professional growth. Thank you, Lisa. Next we have Lieutenant Jazlyn Zombo. Jazz began her career in 2005 with the Selma County Fire Department after coming from Winter Springs.

2:34:11 – 2:34:54Speaker 23

Lieutenant Zombo is a Geneva native who graduated from Seminole High School and Seminole High School's Health Academy program. Soon after graduation, she enrolled in Seminole State College's Firefighter Minimum Standards program to pursue a career in firefighting. In her twenty year tenure as a firefighter, she's become a paramedic, promoted to lieutenant, and obtained a bachelor's degree in public safety administration along with many accolades to include the twenty eighteen State of Florida Paramedic of the Year. She she also worked with legislators in Tallahassee to pass a cancer legislation that provides benefits for firefighters in the state of Florida diagnosed with cancer. Lieutenant Zombo currently serves as command safety technician on b shift and resides in Oviedo in the Oviedo area with her son and daughter.

2:34:54 – 2:35:29Speaker 23

And I know that she has pulled two people out of a burning building. Twenty five years of service. So I'm gonna keep this short because this individual hates recognition, but I will say that we could not do our job without him. Gerald Hutchinson Hutch began his career with Seminole County working for Environmental Services Water and Sewer in September 2000 as their warehouse supervisor. In November 2007, he transferred to the fire department also in the role of warehouse supervisor.

2:35:30 – 2:35:50Speaker 23

In this role, he has seen many changes in his tenure with the fire department. Hutch is married, resides in unincorporated Altamonte Springs. And I would just like to point out that when you're talking about logistics, to keep our operation moving from paper towels to bunker gear, Hutch has touched every piece of it. We could not do our job without people like him. Thank you, Hutch.

2:35:56 – 2:36:30Speaker 23

Thirty eight years of service. She has seen everything. She knows where all the skeletons are. Lisa Manuel, retired emergency communications dispatcher, began her career with Seminole County in August 1987, where she worked in the emergency communications center for more than three and a half decades. Throughout the years, she has been a steadfast, the steadfast heart and soul behind the scenes, whether dispatching critical calls, supervising shifts, training the next generation of operators.

2:36:30 – 2:37:00Speaker 23

Her leadership and commitment have set the gold standard for what it means to serve. Lisa's impact on Seminole County and the Fire Department Communications Center will be felt for generations. As she embarks on her new chapter, we honor her extraordinary journey and say thank you. If I can just for a moment, thank you. I'd just like to point out when it comes to public safety, we talk about firefighters, we talk about police.

2:37:01 – 2:37:18Speaker 23

Everybody who's getting a recognition here has some level of impact on public safety, whether that be through animal services, dispatch, helping the firefighters get their equipment and gear and keeping their trucks on the road, it's all public safety. So I'd just like to point that out and thank you very much.

2:37:22Speaker 20

Thank you. And that concludes our presentation. If we can have some pictures on the floor. We'll

2:37:27 – 2:43:55Speaker 1

be able come down and get some photos. All right. Now we're going to move into our public hearing portion of our agenda, and I will look for proof of publication, please.

2:43:56Speaker 1

Motion is second. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Like sign? Hearing none, carries unanimously. Ex parte disclosure, we'll start with Commissioner Her and work our way across.

2:44:06Speaker 7

None to disclose.

2:44:07 – 2:44:24Speaker 1

None to disclose. To disclose. None to disclose. How about that? It is unanimous. Okay. First item will be the approve the adoption of the ordinance amending chapter 95. Ms. Tricia Johnson, the deputy county manager, thank you for all the work you've done on this.

2:44:24 – 2:44:35Speaker 24

Ms. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Commissioners. I'm here this afternoon actually to present three public hearings related to code amendments. Joining me today to address any of your questions, Mike Rhodes, Jennifer Nix, and John Martin behind me.

2:44:36 – 2:45:43Speaker 24

To briefly recap, and possibly for the last time, at least for several months, this process began nearly twenty months ago. Since then, we have accomplished several key milestones, namely adoption of the International Property Maintenance Code, amendments to Chapter 53, establishment of our code enforcement team, and now today, code amendments before you. Ongoing efforts include implementation of our interim IT program, development of the public portal, and additional amendments to Chapter 40, which will probably come back to you in the spring. Today, we begin with Chapter 95, Health Property Maintenance and Sanitation. Recommended changes to Chapter 95 include deletion of obsolete and duplicative language, new definitions for rubbish and vehicle coverings, revisions related to overgrown yards and abatement procedures, streamlining nuisance abatement by authorizing the code enforcement division manager to make determinations on nuisance violations and initiate abatements more efficiently and delegation of authority to the special magistrate to consider and decide challenged nuisance determinations or abatements.

2:45:43Speaker 24

Staff's recommendation, approval, and adoption of the ordinance amending chapter 95 to the Seminole County Code.

2:45:50Speaker 1

Thank you very much. Any questions for Ms. Johnson? Seeing none, will go to board action.

2:45:57Speaker 7

Move to approve.

2:45:58Speaker 4

Second. Public Do

2:46:03Speaker 1

we have public comment on this item?

2:46:05Speaker 7

No, sir. Hey, we've done it.

2:46:08Speaker 1

I was looking. So we'll close public comment.

2:46:12 – 2:46:23Speaker 1

We got a motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed, like sign? Carries unanimously. Next item, Ms. Johnson, is yours as well.

2:46:23 – 2:46:55Speaker 24

Yes, sir. Public hearing number two, chapter 120, junk and junk dealers. Recommended changes to chapter 120 include updating the chapter name from junk dealers to simply junk, clarifying the county's authority to address and remove abandoned or junk vehicles on both private and public property, adding a clear definition to vehicle cover, updates to contract procedures for vehicle removal, lot clearing, etcetera. Staff's recommendation, approval and adoption of the ordinance amending chapter 120 of the Seminole County Code.

2:46:55Speaker 1

Any questions for staff? Seeing none, is there any public input on this item?

2:47:01Speaker 1

Seeing none, we'll close public input and go to board action.

2:47:05 – 2:47:17Speaker 1

Motion and second. Any further discussion? Seeing none. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed like sign? Carries unanimously. Okay, Ms. Johnson, you're three for three. It's yours again.

2:47:17 – 2:47:58Speaker 24

All right. Public hearing number three, chapter 168, nuisances. Recommended changes to chapter 168 include conforming amendments to align with prior updates to chapters fifty three and ninety five, further streamlining of nuisance abatement, violation, correction, and hearing procedures, delegation of authority to the special magistrate to consider and decide nuisance determinations or abatement abatements, authorization for the code enforcement division manager to proceed with abatements upon expiration of an order for an unsuccessful appeal, and the chapter provides for abatement of imminently hazardous items. Staff's recommendation approval and adoption of the ordinance amended in chapter one sixty eight of the Seminole County Code.

2:47:59Speaker 1

Any questions for staff? Nope.

2:48:02Speaker 2

I I just one.

2:48:03Speaker 11

Yes, sir. So we're

2:48:04Speaker 1

Commissioner Constantine.

2:48:05Speaker 2

Stuff where it never comes back

2:48:07Speaker 24

When you're done with that, that should be it. Yes, sir. It's all of the chapters we've been bringing for you cover that.

2:48:17Speaker 1

the public to speak on this matter?

2:48:19Speaker 1

Seeing none, we'll close public comment and go to Board action.

2:48:22Speaker 4

Move to approve. Second.

2:48:23 – 2:48:40Speaker 1

Motion and second. Any further discussion? Seeing none. All those in favor, aye. Opposed like sign? Carries unanimous. Thank you very much for all your hard work and also the county attorney's office and all the folks now in our new division of code enforcement. Well,

2:48:41 – 2:49:03Speaker 24

I'd like to thank this board, the county manager, and the county attorney for your guidance, insight, and patience with us throughout this process. It has been quite the adventure, lots of discussion, collaboration, and just downright hard work to get where we are today. We have an incredible team in place, and we're all very excited to see where we can take code enforcement for our citizens. So thank you very much.

2:49:03Speaker 7

you. Chairman,

2:49:04Speaker 1

thank you Yes, Commissioner Her.

2:49:05 – 2:49:17Speaker 7

I'd just like to point out that this is the gestational period of an elephant. The time it took us to do this, I looked it up. And so congratulations on the birth of our baby elephant.

2:49:18 – 2:49:38Speaker 1

I was actually going to say to that point when you mentioned how long you've been working on it. I'm like, I'm pretty sure we covered the junk vehicle back in 2019, 2020 that was revised. 2020, correct? So here we are five years later. Good work.

2:49:39Speaker 13

I think we hired our last code enforcement officer, so we're fully staffed, right?

2:49:44Speaker 24

We have our team of five code enforcement our division manager, our field supervisor, and they're all set up on the 2nd Floor, you should pop in and take a look.

2:49:50Speaker 4

It looks terrific.

2:49:51Speaker 1

Fantastic. Good work. Thank you all very much. Appreciate it. Alright. We'll go to the county attorney's report.

2:50:02Speaker 14

I have no report today, Chairman.

2:50:04Speaker 1

All right. Thank you. County manager's report.

2:50:08 – 2:50:27Speaker 13

You're not so lucky with me. Just have a few things. A couple of great news items here. First, our Emergency Management Division Manager, Steven Lerner, has been selected as the Central Florida Disaster Medical Coalition Leader of the Year. He just got that.

2:50:28 – 2:51:11Speaker 13

coalition spans from County down south all the way to Volusia, includes healthcare providers, hospitals, emergency services, and public safety agencies across the region. Steven's leadership reflects Seminole County's strong commitment to preparedness and regional coordination. So we want to thank and congratulate Steven. Great recognition and great job as he always does. You saw our veteran services manager, Joey Coat here this morning. He's been with us now six weeks or probably about two months now. He's doing amazing. You all will. Probably already met with you. We're going to relaunch our Veteran of the Month program, getting ready to start that again soon.

2:51:11 – 2:51:36Speaker 13

So, you'll be getting more information on that. As you all know, Oliver Bond, our solid waste division manager went, what do they call it, crossed the pond. We went back were very, very fortunate and we have a replacement already. His name is Joe England. He started yesterday, comes from the city of Orlando, has a PhD in environmental science, great individual.

2:51:36 – 2:52:06Speaker 13

He was here this morning, I was hoping, I don't think he's here now, nope. I'll get him to come by your offices. I said, You're very crucial all year long, but in particularly during our hurricane season. So he's and he's from this region, so he understands And we finished our first full week with Scout, 6,300 rides as of this morning, a little over 6,300. We all knew there were going be a few hiccups and challenges.

2:52:06 – 2:52:39Speaker 13

We're working through all that. Mr. Swenson is working works with the team on this on a daily basis. You all should have gotten your dashboards already, so those are great information. What we're planning to do is go through our first the first quarter and bring come back in January to do a full update to the Board. But as you noticed, we're going to be watching it every day, making tweaks on it continuously. So, if you hear something or if you want something more, just send it our way and we'll get it happen. Make it happen. Great.

2:52:39 – 2:53:26Speaker 1

Thank you. Great work. On the scout item, and I know we have been very proactive in rolling this out to our community, both in person, and many of us have been interviewed by the news media as well as social media that we've put it out there. I've spoke to three civic groups this past week that had no clue, no idea, which was sort of lost on me from the standpoint of do you watch the news, do you follow anything at the county, and I guess a lot don't for whatever reason. So I don't know if it makes sense to I know we've got these brochures that we drop those at faith based groups and ask them to pass them out or whatever it is.

2:53:27Speaker 1

Just food for thought. Okay. And I think that that may be helpful. If you can let us know your thoughts or PI Oak and

2:53:35 – 2:54:00Speaker 13

what I'll No, think as much as and that's what we as much as information that you we send out as much as we possibly can. However, we know we don't cover everyone. If there's or we had a person come up recently and say they put out this magazine to a few HOAs and they would like to place it in there too, so we gave them the brochure as well. So anything, you know, please pass it our way. Our team with Mr.

2:54:00 – 2:54:25Speaker 13

Patton and his communication team is out there speaking to it as well. One thing that Mr. Swenson had told me this morning and actually Commissioner Lockhart and I just talked about this recently is some folks are saying some of the Lynx bus riders are not using it yet because the buses are still running. Know we're running dual transportation systems now. That will end in January.

2:54:25 – 2:54:49Speaker 13

However, we have our interns going to bus stops, on the buses, riding the buses, explaining it. Some of those members will those riders probably will use that until they can't and then they'll transition. So, we're out there on the streets every day notifying folks. So any other groups that you think would be helpful would be more than happy then go talk with them or send them information.

2:54:49 – 2:55:00Speaker 1

Yeah, I spoke to a group in Tuscaloosa last night and several of them said, Yeah, we've seen the vehicles, but we weren't sure what they were. Yeah, well that's what Yeah. So anyway. Mister chairman. Good. Yes. Commissioner On

2:55:00 – 2:55:30Speaker 4

that same point, I think if if we can creatively find ways to encourage those links fixed route riders who are going to have to transition to start trying it now. And I don't know what that incentive may be. Maybe it's your first ride is free if you're a current links bus rider. Something even though we've missed our free phase. Think that, you know, people just out of just Habit.

2:55:30 – 2:55:59Speaker 4

Pure habit and human nature is to wait until the last possible moment to do the science project, to write the report. And so they're going to wait until January 10 and then they're going to try to get on. And then we may be in a bit of a bind with a rush of people trying to figure out how to use it all at the same time. So leave it completely up to staff how they want you know, brainstorm, encouraging those people to start trying it now. I think that would be really important.

2:56:00Speaker 1

Yep. Good stuff. Okay. Anything else on that item? No, sir. Commissioner Her.

2:56:06 – 2:56:44Speaker 7

In terms of getting information out, I would say there's a couple of major constituencies that probably are riders, and that is the transportation and food services department at the school district. I can help facilitate if any you give me the material, it's probably 1,000 to distribute by the time I get to both of those populations. I can get it into the right departments and make sure that it's handed out. I think they would appreciate that. I do think they're riders and most often one car household. This may be game changing in terms of employment opportunities.

2:56:45 – 2:57:00Speaker 1

Will do. And maybe our tax collector could insert one of our things with their mailers. I mean, they may allow for renewal of tags, you know, literally probably every day or at least once a month. Just a thought. Commissioner Constantine? And

2:57:02Speaker 2

I think Commissioner Hurl will be proud of me. I'm on the dashboard right now. What?

2:57:10 – 2:57:35Speaker 2

yeah, I spoke to two groups this week. Christian came with me to one of them, as did Chris, and they did know about it. They just didn't know how to get on it. Yeah. And and so that was a lot and they had a lot of great questions and everything like that. But, you know, we're talking about a half a half a month here. Right. And we're already almost at eleven thousand passengers. That's that's pretty darn good. Mhmm. You know what?

2:57:36Speaker 2

I would suggest that that's probably more than rode the bus.

2:57:43Speaker 13

Agreed. In one Agreed. Yeah. In one week. Right?

2:57:47 – 2:58:05Speaker 2

Yeah. But and that's what I'm saying. And the interesting thing about this is the the the age distribution that it's almost exactly the same, 65 and over, and 21 to 34. They're both, at right, 33%, which is really interesting.

2:58:05Speaker 2

I think that probably the 65 will go higher as we get no. But it it is nice to see that, you know, it's been so well used.

2:58:14 – 2:58:30Speaker 1

The the one thing that I've heard is, and I brought up the county manager's attention, is a little bit of confusion with the app, and how do we get to an app that says Scout instead of Freebee, or go in through the Freebee portal and then it populates an app for Scout.

2:58:31 – 2:58:44Speaker 1

Because I've had several people call and go, well, I went to do it, but it just shows up and it's Miami or whatever on the screen. Well, you got to drop it down, go to Seminole County. Right. All that, just a thought. Yeah. Commissioner Lockhart?

2:58:45Speaker 4

I had a little scout update on my district report, so if you don't mind, I'll go ahead and share if I can now, and then we'll knock the

2:58:56 – 2:59:13Speaker 4

Tim and I took scout this weekend, and our driver was absolutely the best ambassador for Scout that you could possibly have. Most of his information was accurate. He had no idea who I was. I was kind of secret shopping. I didn't mean to be.

2:59:13 – 2:59:45Speaker 4

But one of the things that he feels that he has observed is that the people who are riding now are not the Lynx riders. And but that when Christian and I spoke, we do think that these are the folks that we knew existed in the gap. They couldn't necessarily afford an Uber or a Lyft. They didn't have the ability to walk to the distance of a Lynx bus stop. And these are these folks who are trying this for the first time who maybe would have been stuck at home or finding some other way.

2:59:45 – 3:00:18Speaker 4

So, yeah, those people that we really had because when we went down this path, we said this is for Lynx riders. If you are a Lynx rider, is your replacement. And now we have found that there are umpteen more, thousands of people who need transportation in this community who didn't have access to it. It's going to be really interesting to watch. At the LINCS board meeting we had several UCF students who came to express their objection to the elimination of the routes.

3:00:20 – 3:01:02Speaker 4

There's some misunderstanding about what when you say Route 434 and that that's going away and the messaging is difficult when you're used to a particular route. What does that mean? And so we, right up front, address the fact that if you live in Orange County, Osceola County, and you need to get to the UCF campus, the changes that Seminole County made in implementing Scout does not affect your ability to get from where you are to your school campus. These would be for Seminole County students. We have not heard yet any displeasure from any Seminole County residents who attend UCF.

3:01:03 – 3:01:18Speaker 4

These have mostly been students, UCF students who live in Orange County and are just generally at the ups upset at the idea of of something change it's changed. Right? It's changed. They will still have access. They still have the ability to get to campus.

3:01:18 – 3:02:14Speaker 4

It's It will just be maybe a different number route. So I had an interview with Night News just this afternoon over the lunch break. Fantastic students from the Nicholson School of Communications who really want to make sure that they get the facts out to their students, so they're covering both sides of the story, those who have been users of Lynx and talking to us. What a great opportunity for for us to be able to get the word directly to those students who are gonna be reading right night news and understand exactly what it is that may be impacting them, which if you're in Seminole County, right now we have had four rides to UCF on Scout and seven rides from UCF on Scout. So over the course of the last week, 11 trips of students now that's probably more than utilized the LINX bus route, frankly.

3:02:15 – 3:02:33Speaker 4

So but but now we'll be able to know. We'll be able to know exactly who needs it, where they're going, where they're coming from, and we'll be able to continue to work on that. And that was one of the things that the reporters from Night News were curious about was, are you going to be able to extend hours? And maybe, right? Like we don't know.

3:02:33 – 3:03:02Speaker 4

We're taking it one step at a time and does an extension of hours make sense and what does that ridership look like? It's all possible possibly, but just so you know, was opposition at the LINX board meeting to those route changes and we'll continue to communicate with those folks as best we can and utilize every opportunity. Chris and his team have been fantastic in making sure that we communicate the positives of SCOUT. And so so far, everybody seems to be understanding that.

3:03:02Speaker 1

And ironically, on that point, hasn't Links now developed a relationship with Freebee?

3:03:10 – 3:03:36Speaker 4

Yeah. Yes. So, yeah, the irony is not lost on me. At our last Linx board meeting, we approved a contract with B Free, Freebee out of Miami to replace, the NeighborLink. So now, Lynx is no longer doing NeighborLink in house. They have outsourced to Freebee, and they have found that they can save millions of dollars. Wow.

3:03:36Speaker 1

Amazing. Exciting.

3:03:37 – 3:03:51Speaker 4

Yeah. What a I I it took every bone in my body to not gloat. I bet you did. But yeah. That's true. Yes. So Linx has has decided they're going to give Freebie a shot to provide microtransit services.

3:03:52Speaker 2

Job. And commissioner, we've had two go to UCF today.

3:03:57Speaker 7

UCF today. I am proud of you down

3:04:03Speaker 4

live. It's pretty incredible.

3:04:06Speaker 1

Alright. Well district reports, Commissioner Lockhart, you're still up.

3:04:10 – 3:04:35Speaker 4

Okay. So I talked about links. I do want to anything that we can do, I know each of us works works with different commissioners from different counties on regional boards. This change has ruffled some feathers with some of our partners and some of our neighboring counties. If you interact particularly with folks from Osceola County, I'm just going to put it out there because it was at the public meeting at LINX and it's being discussed.

3:04:35 – 3:05:07Speaker 4

There was concern on the part of the Osceola County representative that the folks from LINX were helping to answer questions about the freebie changes and the route changes that LINX were was making. And and and my perspective on that is we're still a partner in LINX. We still are serving the same riders. We we need I was I actually said, I think it's fantastic that Linx has been working so collaboratively with our team because we need to make sure that there's continued connectivity. Like, we're still a regional transportation system.

3:05:07 – 3:05:29Speaker 4

We're just choosing to do things a little bit differently in Seminole County. So if you can help to, you know, reinstill that with any of our partners as you work with them and other boards, I certainly don't want the change that we decided to make to hinder other partnership opportunities moving forward, because there's clearly some ruffled feathers.

3:05:30 – 3:06:04Speaker 1

Yeah, mean change, back to what was said earlier about UCF, the change. I did interact with one from that county and it was good dialogue. And my take on it was the partners can all benefit from the gamble that Seminole County has taken to be the first to go out and see how this works instead of everybody doing it at once. Use our experience to your benefit, and it was well taken.

3:06:04Speaker 2

Yeah. And if I can go

3:06:06 – 3:06:44Speaker 2

Commissioner Commissioner, you're exactly right. At the Regional Planning Council, there was an Orange County commissioner that was concerned about it also. And I think the other thing about it is, you know, we are the guinea pig Yeah. If you wanna do it. But the other thing that I think that I I I heard was that they felt that we were leaving the Lynx riders behind, and I clearly, you know, squelched that and said, no. This is actually going to be even more beneficial to them, and our price our pricing is at the same level as it would be on LYNX. So once I I was able to, you know, tell them that, then they didn't have any problem.

3:06:44Speaker 1

And they also didn't realize our our focus on getting people to Sunrail. Mhmm. That they had no idea of. Yeah. Mhmm. Okay. Well, you. Mister Delari.

3:06:53 – 3:07:32Speaker 11

Mister Lockhart, I think you've posed a valid point. And I think in the past, Osceola has pulled back from OEP as it is today, and there was no angst from us or anyone else because they were trying something different. I'm not asking you to remind them that, but I would be more than happy to remind those individuals that I know of Mosceola Osceola County that as well. And we did speak about it at Metro Plan with a couple of the Orange County Commissioners, and there was a lot of issues that they weren't aware of. So there's a lot of misinformation. There is shouldn't say a lot. There is some misinformation that's out there. I think that's a better way to put it.

3:07:32Speaker 2

No. I'll get to know it.

3:07:34 – 3:08:04Speaker 4

time. Absolutely. It does. And then I appreciate so much everyone being you know, all of us are in this together. So the more that we can can help, you know, alleviate fears, the better. Thank you. Had a good SunRail meeting. We did extend hours on SunRail minimally. Well, it was a minimal change, but it's going to impact people, I I think, very positively. So we had two deadhead trains at the end of the night that were coming back empty.

3:08:04 – 3:08:48Speaker 4

There there weren't people on them. They were just getting them back to where they need to start the next morning. And so with some tweaking of some times and some some minor modifications of some staffing, FDOT made the recommendation. And there was a lot of discussion about it to make sure that we were making the best decision for cost purposes and everything. So now there are extended southbound trains. So from from Dee Land southbound, I think, going till 11:00 at night. So yeah. So that did the media has not picked up on that. I'm not quite sure. That was actually a pretty significant change, and it's and there was another train that was added in in a gap.

3:08:48 – 3:09:06Speaker 4

There was, like, a two hour gap late in the evening, like a nine and then coming the other direction, like a nine and then an eleven, and so we put one in at ten. So it's actually more opportunities to ride later into the evening at an incredibly minimal cost because the train was running anyway. We're just putting people on it.

3:09:08Speaker 7

I could have come back from homecoming. Go Hatters

3:09:14Speaker 7

This weekend. Thank

3:09:16Speaker 4

you. I don't think it was in effect yet this weekend. Not we all just voted on

3:09:21Speaker 7

gone bad, so I can now go to the elusive grape, into land, and come home. That's fantastic.

3:09:29Speaker 7

Great news. That is fantastic. Check

3:09:32 – 3:10:15Speaker 4

the check the trips and just make sure that I'm aligned. Go Hatters. Go Hatters. Go Hatters. Okay. So that's your that's your SunRail update. And then and there we also shout out to Birjesh again and the team that's working on the has been working on the amendment, the first amendment to the local funding agreement that there was that agreement was crazy. I asked to see the strike ad version, and it was like red, underline, red, underline, red, underline, strike, strike, It was a mess. So they did a fantastic job as a team cleaning that up and really excited about that. Had a briefing with Tricia Johnson and Chief Bedard and Chief Spriggs from the jail and Bob Cortez talking about inmate health care and medical costs.

3:10:15 – 3:10:52Speaker 4

There's there's been an ongoing discussion through the Florida Association of Counties about some potential language change at the legislature that could help local jails get access to Medicare reimbursement for inmates that they don't currently have access to. And I don't and I will not go into the weeds on the language because there's there are a lot of different suggestions about it, but significant opportunity. The sheriff's office is working with us. There are a couple of other counties. I think it was Pasco County that was one of the counties that's proposing this legislation.

3:10:52 – 3:11:25Speaker 4

It could be several years in the making as a lot of legislative changes tend to be, but could be a significant impact to our jail. The Rx is another huge driver at the jail, and so we're looking at any ways that we can to help support them in that. What is unique about Seminole County is that although the sheriff runs the jail, we do actually care how much it costs. Right. Apparently, other counties they said that other counties who have given their sheriff the the responsibility of running the jail, they don't necessarily look at at the cost drivers as much.

3:11:25 – 3:11:48Speaker 4

They haven't made quite made that connection yet. So we're gonna see if we can be supportive and help the sheriff with some legislation and and at least start talking about this with our county partners and see what we can do. It was a very good meeting with follow-up to come. The Emerald Awards is November 1 at Northland Church in Longwood. It's a salute to black excellence in Seminole County.

3:11:48 – 3:12:23Speaker 4

Commissioner Zembauer, thank you so much for your support of this event. It's just a a wonderful grassroots event highlighting the incredible accomplishments of of the black community in Seminole County. We, I will be going with the college. The council of presidents has a legislative fly in to Tallahassee next week, so I will be up there. Always use that as an opportunity to talk to any of our legislators about the things that we have happening here in Seminole County as well. So looking forward to that. And did someone say today was National Chocolate Day?

3:12:24Speaker 4

Did you actually say that earlier?

3:12:26Speaker 2

Yeah. When I tried

3:12:27Speaker 1

to take When he was taking all my chocolate.

3:12:29Speaker 4

Oh, okay. I thought I heard it, but I couldn't I didn't remember if it was said officially. Got it. So today is actual also National First Responders Day.

3:12:37Speaker 4

That was mentioned. Did I take that from you

3:12:42Speaker 1

it for me too so I can mark off my list.

3:12:44Speaker 2

I'm marking things off what you're saying. Don't worry.

3:12:46Speaker 4

Lots and lots and lots of great things happening in Seminole County. Thank you all.

3:12:49Speaker 1

Amen. Commissioner Her. Strictly.

3:12:54 – 3:13:35Speaker 7

Great. On 10/17, I did a tour of the Recovery House of Central Florida. If you haven't been there recently, it's probably worth a tour. It is very different from what it used to be. New management structure and style and all of the stuff. And they are doing a Serve Hope Gala on the fourteenth. Tables are very affordable. This is a fundraiser, so anybody that might want to buy a table, that would be awesome. And they are working toward a capital fundraise. If you live in Seminole County and you happen to be addicted and you happen to be a woman, you cannot get treatment in this county.

3:13:39 – 3:14:00Speaker 7

Our center doesn't host women. Recovery House doesn't host women. So there are no so they want to change that. They found a property, and they are looking to change that and have this be an equal opportunity cure location. So I am happily supporting that.

3:14:02 – 3:14:29Speaker 7

I did go to the Seminole County Public Schools Annual Foundation Night of Impact. Significant amount of money was raised. The most remarkable thing is that that started in 1987 and with Didi Schaffner, and God bless her, 65,000,000 has been raised since she started that. And at the point that I joined that board, she was running it on a legal pad with a pencil.

3:14:30Speaker 4

And running it, she was.

3:14:31 – 3:14:55Speaker 7

And running it, she was, yes. And so from its meager start to where it is today with an accounting system, which is pretty cool. But amazing work that's been done over the years there. I did attend the legislative session. I sit in the back and listened to the majority of it when our legislative delegation came. Commissioner Zimbauer, you did a good job of representing us, and the day is just always an interesting one.

3:14:55Speaker 1

It is. Thank you.

3:14:56 – 3:15:27Speaker 7

So and then Sanford's State of the City luncheon. I was asked why I never attended, and I told them I'm not a member of the chamber nor have I ever been invited to attend it. So that turned into an invitation. It was delightful. I did get to meet the new owners of the Sanford Mall, and they talked about their vision for the mall, which includes a big box store that sells cheap hot dogs, is how they say it because there's apparently an NDA.

3:15:28 – 3:15:47Speaker 7

And so that's happening. It was very nicely done. The Sanford Chamber hosted it, and it's nicely done. And HSN gave me the opportunity to present Kim Fogle with the Thomas C. Chapman Junior Community Champion Award.

3:15:48 – 3:16:37Speaker 7

And it was really nice to see a project in Seminole County get recognized in Orange County, and she was quite delighted by that. I do want to let you know that I did ask county's team to look at two parcels of land that may become available that are adjacent to the Smith Canal and may be valuable for drainage or future work. They are not on the market yet. Owner reached out, and I've connected them to the team, so we may be hearing more about that at some point. And the last shout out I'll give is it was wonderful to see Christina Brandolini standing here looking like nothing ever happened, but she is in the middle of annual open enrollment.

3:16:37Speaker 7

And if you have not done your annual open enrollment, now is the time to do it. Don't say you didn't hear about it. 10:24 to eleven seven, I've already enrolled. I hope you all do as well.

3:16:48 – 3:17:25Speaker 11

Alright. Good. Commissioner DeLaury. Thank you, mister chairman. Just quickly, have one item. Yes, at MetroPlan, we hosted regional meeting with the Tampa Bay region. They have several MPOs over in the Tampa Bay area, and they are looking to consolidate all their MPOs into one, and they're trying to figure out the pros and cons. That's why they came to Metro Plan Orlando. It started yesterday at 09:00 in the morning, and it finished, I think it was, like, 02:30. I wanna thank commissioner Constantin for being there most of the time.

3:17:27 – 3:17:39Speaker 11

There's a lot of great input, a lot of questions. They were very intrigued on how three different counties can work together for the good of the region and still feel as if they get their fair share.

3:17:41Speaker 11

It was quite interesting.

3:17:42 – 3:18:22Speaker 11

And they were also concerned about small cities not being heard. And as we know, we have several small cities, not just in Seminole, but Osceola and Orange. And they actually reported out that they feel as if they do get their voices heard. And so there's a lot of great dialogue. And one of the dialogues that they were talking about is that they wanted to hear more about, well, I shouldn't say at this point, they wanted to watch to see what was happening with Scout because a lot of them use it on a much smaller area, and they are looking to learn from Seminole.

3:18:22 – 3:18:54Speaker 11

And I just told them, mister, just give us a couple months and then reach out to our staff, and I'm sure we'll be more than happy to share our lessons learned. And so we're all being watched from that standpoint. And they were also concerned about how we as a region came together to actually bring, SunRail to fruition as it is today and what's moving forward. So just wanna let you all know that people are watching us from different aspects from the region and from different parts of the state. So end of my report.

3:18:54Speaker 1

Thank you, commissioner. And this will be commissioner Constantine, district Thank

3:19:00 – 3:19:29Speaker 2

you very much. I did wanna make you aware that on October 15, the Thousand Friends of Florida did a webinar on, senate bill one eighty, which was very well attended. There was over a thousand attendees that was done virtual. And I I I watched it myself. I sent it to our county attorney's office, and I am gonna ask Beatrice to send it to all of your offices. It was really good. People like Richard Grosso, who's an attorney down in South Florida.

3:19:29Speaker 11

How long is the It's about an hour. Okay.

3:19:31 – 3:20:12Speaker 2

Yeah. And it's it really was very informative. Even some things that what things that would happen that I didn't I hadn't thought of, but they even had a, city commissioner from, Deltona that was talking about, her concerns and what has happened just in Deltona on it already. And then so there's there was two there was another attorney who happened to be on the board of a thousand friends with me, Susan, and she was also talking she's an attorney for cities down south, and she was also talking about some of the things. So I think you might you know, if you get a chance, it's it's very interesting.

3:20:12Speaker 1

So, commissioner, on that Yes. Croso is the attorney of record in the litigation.

3:20:17Speaker 2

Yes. He is. Correct?

3:20:18Speaker 1

And and city of Deltona, didn't they just take a vote to withdraw from litigation?

3:20:23Speaker 2

I am not aware of that.

3:20:25Speaker 1

Pretty sure they did.

3:20:26 – 3:20:51Speaker 2

Okay. Not sure why. Well, I will tell you, and you could some of the things that are in there as to you know, when a lot of the cities are and, you know, nobody's advocating that. I'm just this is just an information as to what it what the cause and effect is. Sure. And so I think that if you took a look at it, they were just talking about, as well as us, you know, they sent their concerns

3:20:51Speaker 2

Like all of us, like the Florida Association of Counties has. Right. So I just think that if you want to just learn more, it's there for you for your benefit.

3:21:00Speaker 11

There's no recommendations just for information purposes.

3:21:02 – 3:21:34Speaker 2

It's telling you what hap what what it would be effect Right. Of it is. As very similar to, you know, Kate with her letter Right. Had done, but this is goes in a little bit more detail. If I did want to talk to you about English Estates, one of our homeowners associations. It's in commissioner Lockhart's district, had a fall festival, which was very nice, a little community festival that we have so many, you know, festivals. It's just wonderful here in Seminole County. You go

3:21:34Speaker 11

to Do you go to all of them?

3:21:36Speaker 2

No. Can't go to all of them. I see you at a lot of them, though, Bob.

3:21:41Speaker 11

I don't. I just wanna make sure. I missed some of them. That's why

3:21:44Speaker 9

I wanted to know if

3:21:45Speaker 2

Through some of the ones that I did go to.

3:21:46Speaker 1

That's I never got the notice.

3:21:48 – 3:23:02Speaker 2

On October, twenty third, or October 22, the Statewide Council on Opioid Abatement, which both the sheriff and I are on, had a meeting. We one of the things one of the new endorsements that we are suggesting to the state is that the program that the University of Central Florida has, which is unique concerning, you know, help in psychological with with talking about being, you know, first responders day, with the problems that first responders are having with the, protection and, treatment of opioid abatement and other drugs that they're having their own psychological problems and, to put some new dollars from the state level, from the state's portion of those dollars that they're getting from the opioid opioid Sumner. Thank you. So, that was another thing that we've been talking about. On the, on the twenty fourth at the Orange County Regional Economic Summit, I just wanted to give a shout out to you, commissioner Zimbauer.

3:23:03 – 3:23:16Speaker 2

I was there, and, I thought that you did a wonderful job as part of the whole panel for Seminole County and, you know, in, in dealing with the other Orange And Osceola County on some new and innovative approaches.

3:23:18 – 3:24:15Speaker 2

On October 24, also, there was the Leadership Seminole third Annual Call of Service, and, I thought that was a well attended event with a number of different, of our five zero one c three corporations there looking for volunteers. Also, tomorrow at the Sheriff's Office, commissioner or or sheriff Lima and myself and others will be doing a project overdose program, leadership program, concerning some new and innovative approaches along with Andre Bailey of Project Overdose. The looking forward to you, commissioner Her, on the thirtieth. You always are having a lot of fun at the mayor's update as you do that every year. The regional planning council, by the way, talking about other counties, is gonna have a meeting at, Neo Center or Neo City.

3:24:15 – 3:24:37Speaker 2

I'm sorry. Neo CEO Academy in Kissimmee this next, month, so that should be interesting. I'm looking forward to seeing that. I have not been there yet, but I've heard a lot about it and read a lot about it. And also at Champions Gate, this might be interesting for all of us as well as Christian because of, you know, what we're doing with Scout.

3:24:37 – 3:25:10Speaker 2

On the fifth and sixth, the there's gonna be a summit on automated vehicle programming. Mhmm. And I am looking forward to going out there, and I've been invited by one of the presenters, and I'm looking forward to going out there and seeing some of that. Speaking of some of the events other than English Estates, just wanted to also say that we had a wonderful event for the German American Society this past Saturday. Well attended very well attended.

3:25:10 – 3:25:40Speaker 2

It was, oh, well crowded. Could hardly get in. And upcoming is the City of Altamonte Springs Halloween at Crane's Roost, always a very safe environment for children to get a lot of candy. That's what they want. The same night as the Emerald Awards, I'll be attending the Lifeboat Project, which is having their annual, so I will be missing the Emerald. Although I wish I could be there, but I'm on the board of the lifeboat project, so I will be there. Casselberry for

3:25:40Speaker 4

your community project.

3:25:41 – 3:26:12Speaker 2

Thank you. Casselberry on November 3 is having their fifteenth annual food and wine, which should be a lot of fun. The the Greek festival is coming up the seventh through the ninth. Annunciation Catholics Church's fall festival is the seventh and the eighth. One thing that I hope all of you are planning on attending is November 12, the Central Florida Zoo is having a government preview of the of the Asian Lantern.

3:26:13 – 3:26:32Speaker 2

Always a great event, and their biggest fundraiser of the year. And then our good friend, Joe Gallagher, and their glass full of hope will be at Crane's Roost this year on November 13. And I think I'm done. Thank you very much for the indulgence.

3:26:33Speaker 4

I'm tired just thinking about all those guys.

3:26:35Speaker 1

Well, I'm glad a lot of that's out

3:26:38 – 3:27:20Speaker 1

So October 15, I attended the Econ Zone and the hard launch for the scalp micro mobility here. AHAC meeting. Some things came out of the affordable housing committee that have been festering for some time, which is the challenges that some of our partners, our private partners, have with getting through the permitting process at the City of Sanford. Numerous discussions have been had. I've spoken to staff and leadership at at the city, but it continues to be a challenge.

3:27:20 – 3:28:02Speaker 1

So the direction was given to the chairman of the AHAC board to draft a letter to the mayor just outlining again some of the struggles that we have and getting some of that process done. Our desire is to try to foster and help that situation and and so forth. But it becomes a problem when you have grant monies or federal money being pledged, there's deadlines on that that you have to be in, and families have got to be housed. And so that continues to be somewhat of a struggle. So hopefully, we can work our way through that and and find a better place.

3:28:03 – 3:28:22Speaker 4

Mister Yes. With I I know you don't wanna probably go into too much detail, and it's great to know that we're trying to help. Do we have we identified exactly how we can help with the city of Sanford? Because it's not just housing where they're struggling. It's it's also businesses, restaurants.

3:28:22 – 3:28:50Speaker 1

Understood. The list goes on. Yeah. I can't answer that question directly, but it it all has to seem to revolve around a timing issue, efficiency of getting something in on the front end and out on the back end. You know, it'd be easy for me to say it starts with leadership, but something is amiss.

3:28:50 – 3:29:21Speaker 1

There's no urgency. And I'll give you one example was we had an applicant that went through the whole process. You you have to go through a historic review at the City of Sanford because it may be in a historic, you know, facade that has to be put on. And got all the way through, and then for whatever reason, they didn't move through move force. They turned it over to another entity, and then they were forced to start all over again.

3:29:22 – 3:29:57Speaker 1

And what the first entity was told they could do, the second entity was told can't do. Exact same project. Nothing changed. So it's at one point, it actually put the county in jeopardy of losing monies that had been pledged for affordable housing because we weren't gonna meet the deadline under the federal guidelines to get a certificate of occupancy. Those kinds of things are what we're continuing to deal with.

3:29:57 – 3:30:24Speaker 1

And some of our nonprofit partners continue to struggle to get through the process. And I've met. I've met with the city manager twice now in my office and assured that steps were being taken to foster and get it moved forward. But I still we still hear the complaints and the concerns, So I don't have a hard answer, but that's some of the things we're dealing with.

3:30:24Speaker 4

My 2¢ would be anything that we can do to provide support to our largest city, happy to provide that support.

3:30:30 – 3:30:41Speaker 1

Correct. So I've talked to staff about that and, you know, getting anything we can do to help get through that process. Chairman? Yes.

3:30:41 – 3:31:29Speaker 7

So this is not new. Maybe new to the nonprofits that are now building, but this is this has been going on since I've been elected. And periodically, those issues come through my office, and we can figure out how to try to move the needle individually. We have, I think, Darren and his team have a list of items from me to include where are we with the interlocal agreement and what are we how are we dealing with some of the things that have happened over the years. I would tell you that I think there is there are just challenges that are very similar to what I would say I walked into here when I got here.

3:31:29 – 3:32:06Speaker 7

So we're gonna watch them go through similar iterations, I think, of change. And and we've offered support. There has to be a willingness on both sides. The mayor and I talk about things regularly. I would tell you one of the other things that is a significant challenge that we have got to address is this notion that when you put a subdivision in that touches a county and touches the city and touches the homeowners association, that one ditch is being serviced by three different entities, and we can't seem to get out of our own way.

3:32:06 – 3:32:33Speaker 7

The ditch never flows because they're not cycled at the same time. And so there's all there's a long list of stuff that has to be addressed. Right. And the permitting for businesses is Construction. It's a lot. It is a lot. Part of it is infrastructure that that, you know, they're Right. Tangled in old infrastructure. But that shouldn't be a surprise after somebody's outlaid capital.

3:32:33Speaker 1

Right. Yeah. Well, the JPA expires, what, at end of this month? No.

3:32:38Speaker 13

It's already expired.

3:32:39Speaker 13

So expired last month. And we're we're working with the city on that. Okay. And

3:32:43Speaker 1

this board's gonna weigh in on that?

3:32:46 – 3:33:18Speaker 1

Good. Alright. Night of Impact, Gala was mentioned. Great great work there. A lot of money raised. Well attended. Legislative delegation was mentioned, I won't go into that. Orange County Summit, which is on the twenty fourth. Each county shared some of the specific challenges that we believe we'll have moving to the future. And as you can imagine, some of ours are in stark contrast to what others might have been.

3:33:18 – 3:34:11Speaker 1

But there is talk about regional collaboration on transportation related items as well as perhaps development related items. And then we pledged to keep our ears open, have the dialogue as far as, you know, the three counties go. So Darren also was in attendance, so he got to see a lot of his counterparts and take notes and understand where if we move forward with some of those initiatives, it'll come back to this board for discussion and so forth. Sanford International Airport spoke about the Aerojet inaugural flight, came in this weekend. New carrier, three three flights round trip a week is what's planned right now.

3:34:11 – 3:34:56Speaker 1

They will be feeding all of Latin America. And so they're going to Punta Gorda or Punta Canta is is where they're based out of, but they're looking to expand in other airports around The United States, but they also are going to be flying into South America, multiple destinations there. So you can go from here to one to others, and they will bring others from those areas back up into here. Interesting enough, a big portion of those that flew in this weekend were going to be playing golf in Seminole County. They were going play the Wekiva Club, they were going to play over Heathrow and a couple other courses, And they were going to go on airboat rides over in the Black Hammock.

3:34:57Speaker 1

They were going to the zoo. They had it all planned out for Seminole County. It was pretty cool.

3:35:02Speaker 4

Doesn't put heads

3:35:03 – 3:35:31Speaker 1

That's right. Exactly. Attended the juvenile justice committee meeting, and I got to tell you, a lot of talk about the the juveniles and and the age groups and the programs that are available. Actually, it's actually called SNAP, just like but it's not the food program. It Now it's planned.

3:35:31 – 3:35:58Speaker 1

Yeah. That's right. And the understanding that what we learned was our sheriff's department is doing great work in that silo that is not necessarily being done by others. Some of them actually have some barriers that domestic violence cannot be considered for a juvenile to enter into the SNAP program. Ours is not that way.

3:35:58 – 3:36:41Speaker 1

The sheriff's office here is not that way. So that's a huge benefit to our citizens and and these young people and getting the outcome that we want and quite honestly deserve, which ends up saving the taxpayers dollars at the end of the round with if we can keep people from going on about a life of crime and get them integrated back into the community at young age, the payoff is huge. So good work by the sheriff's office. There is some other initiatives that the juvenile justice system is looking at. There's a couple of circuits, I think circuit four, which I believe is in the Jacksonville area, is doing some unique work with the young people.

3:36:41 – 3:37:09Speaker 1

So they're going to be looking at that here in our district and across the state to maybe adopt some of those things that would be helpful for our juveniles, here. So good work there. Also want to the EMU, Geneva EMU was mentioned earlier. He has a fan club. You can buy a button that you could wear, the Geneva EMU.

3:37:11 – 3:37:59Speaker 1

I've spoke to some of the folks out there in my district and then and urge them the best they can, trying to keep the emu at bay instead of running around with our people chasing them and so forth. Again, just want to take a minute and thank all the veterans for this county and nationwide for giving us the ability to assemble like we were able to do here today and all the freedoms that we have and great great work by everybody this morning in celebrating the veterans and judge Woodruff and that veterans court was, if you ever had the opportunity to go watch that, amazing. Amazing work. It's not being done in a lot of places. So that's the end of my report, and I will now move to public comment items not on the agenda.

3:38:00 – 3:38:24Speaker 1

Reminder for those who are gonna speak on non agenda items, this has to do with county business only. This is not a an area that you talk about federal or state or judicial or campaigning or anything else. This is something the purview of the county commission would have control of in the county. With that said, each will get three minutes. We'll call one name at a time.

3:38:25Speaker 7

The only speaker, mister chairman, is John Stewart.

3:38:28Speaker 1

Sir John Stewart, you have three minutes, sir. Please come up. Your name and address for the record, sir.

3:38:38 – 3:38:49Speaker 18

John Stewart. 693 White Cliff Place, Winter Springs, Florida. And thank you for recognizing the veterans. As you can see, I am one. I don't speak for veterans.

3:38:49 – 3:39:25Speaker 18

I don't wanna get them in trouble. But and and I appreciate the kind words about the sheriff. About a half a mile from my house, a woman was abducted by some drug dealers in the middle of the day, Tuscaloosa, you know, not Paramore, and they killed her. And our sheriff had them behind bars within a few weeks. He has cut opioid fentanyl deaths by about forty two percent in the last year.

3:39:26 – 3:39:49Speaker 18

And I've seen those those courts, you know, those programs up close. I do volunteer. And they're by they have about a the rehab program's up about a seventy percent success rate, which is incredible. And I saw our sheriff speak at the budget hearing. It sounded like he asked for 16.

3:39:50 – 3:40:18Speaker 18

He got 15. I don't think anybody would begrudge him another million dollars. But would a lot of people have a problem with, including our CFO and our auditor, are things like the $9,600,000 for WB Equestrian 50 acre horse ranch. Guess you can't run a county without one of those. Then there's the infamous $8,000,000 road to nowhere over at Five Points.

3:40:18 – 3:40:58Speaker 18

Good news, no traffic. And then two golf courses for $13,700,000 Hard to resist a BOGO. I mean, I shop at Publix too. And I know, you know, you'll say, well, we buy up all this properties to stop it from being developed. Well, I mean, you control zoning. You know, remember Nancy Reagan? Just say no. Okay? So in in this endless smear of of our, you know, our bookkeeper, our auditor, it really bothers me. I mean, I've got forty years of experience in finance.

3:40:58 – 3:41:26Speaker 18

I hold degrees in finance, business administration, IT head of series seven, series 66. I could go on, and I could tell that you're you know, you these these criticisms are baseless. And I don't know what a letter from Jimmy Petronas is gonna do for you. Our new CFO is Blaise Angolia. And, you know, comparing him to Joe Greenberg, I don't know if you've apologized, commissioner Lockhart, but that was pretty bad. That was just unprofessional.

3:41:26Speaker 1

So we're not gonna sit here while you make statements about the commission. If you got a topic, continue on. You got fifteen seconds. So let's wrap it up.

3:41:32Speaker 18

I'm I'm pretty much done. But, you you know, you really shouldn't interrupt me while I've got time on the clock either. So I

3:41:40Speaker 1

expect proper decorum. If you can't if you can't

3:41:42Speaker 18

Well, it's the truth.

3:41:43Speaker 18

Wasn't there a comparison with Joel Greenberg who's in prison?

3:41:47Speaker 1

Your your time's up, sir. Thank very much.

3:41:49Speaker 18

Okay. Well, thank you.

3:41:53Speaker 1

Thank you very much. Anything else for the good of the order?

3:41:57Speaker 1

Seeing none, we're dismissed.

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