City Council - Regular Meeting

If everyone would stand, we'll call this meeting to order. At this time, we have a word of silence. Thank you. I will ask uh Councilwoman Brent to lead us in the pledge. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you. And you may be seated. and we want to welcome you to the Georgetown City Council meeting for Monday, April the 27th, 2026. We are here to conduct business for the city of Georgetown and we will follow the agenda as as written as written and uh Okay. So, that being said, uh Madame Clerk, would you uh call the role? Yes, sir. Mrs. Wilkins here. Mr. Crisp here. Mrs. Ham present. Mr. Hampton here. Mr. Minky present. Mrs. Slesby Mitchell here.

Mrs. Tingles here. Mr. Stone here. All right. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Next item number three, the approval of the minutes. April 14th, 2026. Special city council work session. At this time, council, I will entertain a motion. Motion made by Miss Mitchell. Do I have a second? Second. Second made by Mr. Hampton. Are there further questions and or comments? All those in favor of this motion signify by saying I.

I. Those opposed say nay. Let the record reflect that the motion pass. Next item number four, the receipt of the check registry. Should have received that council by show of hands if you have received it. Thank you. Let the record reflect that all have received it. Item number five, public comments. Uh at this time on public comments, you will have four minutes which to come and state your name and what your business here before council. Uh madame clerk will keep a time for you at three minutes. She will let you know that at that time you have one minute and at the end of one minute we will ask that you take your seat so that that be done. That being said uh uh Mr. Dan Holman uh Mr. Mr. Price I got you.

I'm just agenda. Oh okay.

Okay. All right. Go ahead. Dan Holman, Georgetown. I'll just mention three things um today, two of which are sort of on the are on the agenda. Uh so the number one about this is just about Habitat for Humanity and this is the budget season and I don't I'm not sure whether or not I forget the city of Georgetown donates money you know to to Habitat if that's one of the nonprofits that we support but uh just if it is and even if it isn't uh it sounds like they're having some kind of crisis situation over there. They've in the past few months um all the employees have either uh quit or been fired. So, they're down. They had four employees and I think five maybe total, but they're down now to just the executive director. Um, and some of the ones who quit and were fired, especially the firing one was fired almost immediately after they asked questions about the finances uh about the finances. So, if you all are going to fund them, you might want to just check into how they're spending money. For example, they were supposed to give some money to veterans repairs in Georgetown, and apparently that never happened. And then people started questioning where did that money go because you have to spend you can't spend it on other things and then they were fired. So So maybe they spent it on uh keeping you know the lights on or but either way maybe Lena Ramsey you all can invite her in to just you know explain what's happening there and what they need to do or invite Candace White House to give you all an update about that. Uh and then real quick the uh the monument this historic monument uh is on the agenda tonight and I think you all had some more questions came up about that. uh from last time about Bluegrass Park, which is this large farm in Georgetown. But just one thing I think some some people mentioned about after last meeting was that the the gentleman who is is the markers too was a slave owner. He owned a large plantation down in in Louisiana and then he was a Confederate um like delegate.

He not just fighting in the war, but he like did worked for the higher levels of the Confederacy. So just you might want to be careful about glorifying, you know, a confederate, a slave owner um down there at the same time that we're removing slave cabins, but so specifically the the wording of the monument could be important, you know, specifically focusing on Bluegrass Park, which was some innovative horse uh things that happened back in the 1800s of of national note. So Bluegrass Park is the focus, and this Alexander Keane person, maybe his name would be on the monument, but it maybe shouldn't be dedicated to him specifically. Um, and then I'll mention about AMI metering, which this is this is on the agenda tonight from, uh, from GMWSS. So, um, and so I don't know if they're going to give at the last GMWSS board meeting, they kind of suggested they were going to bring, uh, Jacob's engineering in here to give you all a presentation about AMI metering, but I don't really see that on the agenda, so I don't know if if they're going to or not, but either way, um, yeah, so this is maybe something you also move a little bit slowly on. And like Karen has mentioned stuff about this before, give it a chance, give news a chance to get out in the public and gather some public feedback about it before moving forward. So like so right now the public of Georgetown and even I don't think the council has received a presentation a full present

a full presentation about Jacob, you know what they're going to do in this $7 million project. So this is a pretty substantial project. Uh and then 674,000 of consulting services. Um so maybe hear the information tonight, think about it, uh and then hear back from your constituents with if this is something they really want to do, if they think this is the best way, and then next time vote on it. So it it does I'll just mention one line in here. This is all based on GMWSS requires a consultant for this because current staffing levels preclude GMWSS from conducting alternatives analysis and and other things. They just don't have the internal bandwidth. Um so maybe yeah so this is maybe something we can move a little slower on. Uh eventually this will be managed in house. get the in-house staff comfortable with AMI metering and roll it out slowly, especially because these modern meters, it sounds like, are just standalone to the cellular network. So, you could almost implement like a a new neighborhood.

That's four minutes. So, just move slow and think about that. Thank you. All righty. Has anyone else wanted to speak that did not sign in?

Thank you. We will then go to item number six, which is events applications. And we're going to kind of group a few of those together since uh I think Miss Saunders is going to be doing a few of those. So, uh looking at the agenda items number eight, 6A through uh 6F. You know what would I would like for her to do is she'll just go through and mention each one of those and then at the end we will make one motion to to approve all these. All right. And people are dropping things. All right. Good evening, Miss Saunders. Go.

Thank you. As you all know, we're gearing up for tourist season. We had a huge weekend this past weekend with the Kentucky 3-day and then at the end of May, we're going to have Horsey Hund. So, we're very excited about that. That will be May 22nd through the 24th. I know that they have been working closely with Chief Algood and Officer Perkins um on how the routing and safety precautions will be taking place. So, just so you know, that's already been done and they've had that conversation. And just a reminder that their hub is out of Brooking Park. So, just asking for approval for that extra safety measures and um support from the police department.

Chief Hogood, do you want to say anything about Horsey Hundred? I know you all been working so closely with um

uh just like all the years in the past, uh we do work uh closely with the 400 um personnel. So, we make sure that we have enough officers at the intersections. Uh most of the routes um they start here in Georgetown, but then they go out to other counties. So our goal is to get them out safely and then welcome them back safely um through the bigger intersection. So we know at times uh in the past that usually happens so we make sure that we have our officers in those intersections um hopefully help them get through there and then back to their location.

Thank you. And just so you know, we already have over 1,900 registrants. So, we're very excited about that. Many of them will be spending time in our restaurants and downtown shops and in our hotels for that long three-day weekend. All right. Thank you. All right. Uh item B, party on the square.

Party on the square. Okay. We're super excited about this, too. Uh May 23rd will be our kickoff and that is with superfecta and that is aligns right with horsey hundred. So it's a wonderful time for our locals and our visitors to all be together and share a wonderful evening of music, food and dancing. So um one of the things that has let me go on to August 22nd and then I'll backtrack. Sorry about that. And then on August 22nd, we always have the end of the year school bash that is with Honeychild. So we're excited about both of those, but one of the things that came up was working with the downtown businesses about where they wanted the concerts to be this year. So we have those two plus we have an additional two. We have the two um that will be at the farmers market pavilion which is for sure. So the first one is June 20th and that is Marshall and if you don't know who that is that is Jared Shoemaker who's from Kentucky and has been on the voice. So we're thrilled to have him down there. And then we've got Zack Attack on July 18th. So the one thing with that we want to ask that the pavilion area and parking area remain closed after the farmers market set up just like we did last year. It made it so easy for us to get to get in there. Um and I think Chief Allgood would agree that made it so much simpler to go in straight after instead of having to try and get cars out. But to go back to the other two on May 23rd and August 22nd, those two are generally held downtown. And um last year it was a little bit difficult to shut the street down between 4 and 4:30 and get all the cars out. And of course those are two huge weekends and we don't want to tow

any of our visitors. Absolutely don't want to do that. So, we did have a few cars that were stuck in the area and then when they came back to the car, they couldn't get out because we couldn't move the crowds of people. So, we talked to the downtown businesses about what was the best way to handle that. We were more than happy to go down to the farmers market pavilion and host all four down there. They'd all been successful, so that was fine with us. But if they preferred us to be up on Main Street, we really would need to close the streets earlier than 4. We told them, we asked for uh between 2 and 2:30 p.m. And everyone that we and I went to their their downtown meeting that they had were all in agreement that they wanted to keep it in downtown, at least those two, and they were okay um with us closing that street a little bit earlier than usual. Um, I will say I did ask them, they had another meeting and said, "I just want you to make sure that everyone's okay. I don't want to get an answer because I'm there present and you all feel obligated if there is a change. I want to make sure as many of our downtown businesses have an opportunity to speak about it. Um, so I did get the phone call back that no, they were still all in agreement." So, just to let you all know, I know that's one of the things that's been some concerns about closing the streets early, but we did want to make sure that we talked to them and we got their approval for that. So, the the other thing I'm going to say about that, too. Um, anytime that we have something like the parades and events like this, we do have to consider getting the cars

off the street uh and not having them on there. So, just to keep that in consideration when we're thinking about it, that that's a lot of the times the reasons we need to have it a little bit earlier than usual. We want to keep everybody safe. um is next. Best of the bluegrass. Best of the bluegrass. Okay. Best of festival.

Best of the bluegrass festival of horse. That's the big one. Um it is in September. Closures will begin on Main Street on the 10th of September at 2 PM to get ready for the fireman's chili cookoff with additional closers the evening um of Tuesday the 8th at 5:00 p.m. And that is so that the carnival can get into the back parking lot and get set up. And they'll be city hall parking lot and also behind the justice building and in between the county attorney's office. um pretty much so the same schedule as as last year as far as everything else is activities and things like that. We are trying to ramp up some new things that we're going to be able to showcase in downtown um for the festival. Next home for the holidays um parade. This is another one that we talked to them about downtown was uh the parade the downtown businesses. The parade begins at 5:30 p.m. Um, but in order to make sure that all of our participants and spectators are safe, we really need to have the cars out of there. In the past, we've let the cars stay and everyone has just been in between cars. They've been behind the cars watching the parade. And I don't I think many of you were at the parade last year. It was a big one. Uh and there were a lot of people down there watching it. I mean, there were areas that I really could I could touch, you know, the parade uh uh the participants in the parade with my hand because it was that close. Um, and I have talked to Chief Allgood and public works about what is the best way to handle that and we all agreed the best way to do that is

to have those cars off the street during parade times. So, I did discuss that with the downtown businesses said we'd probably have to close between 2 and 3 to get that done and have the parade ready to go at 5:30. They agree that for the parade, that's a huge event. uh that safety should be priority when it comes to the downtown Christmas parade. They're also aware that we've got a lot of activities that are taking place that they may be closed at 2 on that particular day in December, but we have really geared up for Small Business Saturday. That will be the weekend before. We've got a flannel and frost event that's going to be coming up. We've got a holiday hop and help. So, uh, we're going to do everything we can to make sure that people are shopping, you know, locally, but for the parade, they did agree that 2 to 230 would be okay with them. Um, flannel and frost, I mentioned that a minute ago. Uh, it continues to grow. We're excited about that. That was such a fun time. If any of you made it down there, I think several of you, several of you did. That was a new event that we did uh in conjunction with Georgetown Scott County Parks and Recreation. Um and we I think it was a really nice event and it was our first one. So I think we can really grow it this year. Um it is December 19th. Um we would like to go close the pavilion at 9:00 a.m. and the square at 200 p.m. Um we could go a little bit later on December 19th. just thinking about what's the easiest way to get it closed for our officers and our public works department because we're growing it. There's going to have be a lot of new things that we're going to be bringing down there. And we're trying not to we're trying to do setup all in one day, not go down there and close it the night before um and just doing it in one day.

And we had a really big struggle last year. Had no problems with the cars. They were wonderful. They were great about getting out. I think we did a great job with signage. public works did. The officers were down there reminding people, you know, hey, you can park here to this time. Uh then you got to move along. So, we're very fortunate with that. It this one is more about the setup. Um and with adding some new things into into it, we would really like to have it closed early that morning so it makes it a little bit easier for us and the square at 2 p.m. because we will have some activity still in the square. So, just so you know, all of the events that were requiring Kentucky state road closure permits from District 7, those have been submitted and approved and I have sent them over to Tracy. Scott County

Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Okay. Oh my god. Okay. Now, so you have heard from item uh A through uh E. At this time, I will entertain a motion. I'll make a motion, ma'am. Motion made by Miss Brent. Do I have a second? Second, Mr. Mayor. Second made by Mr. Chris. Are there further questions and or comments? Yeah. Comments. Mayor, I have one. Yes.

So, with the uh especially the May timing event, where will we be with the uh brick project in that uh area? Will we be finished in that area or can we be finished in that area so we're not disrupting the sidewalk uh during those events? That is a very good question for city engineer Eddie Hoter. And where is he?

He's not here. So, uh we will we will I will have we'll look into that and we will report back to this. I will say this, um, Eddie High Totower has been wonderful to work with. He has kept us up to date and we have been able to keep our downtown businesses up to date on what the scheduling is and um, Apex has been wonderful to work with, too. We talked to them early on about as little disruption as possible to our downtown businesses. That's why they're working on the parking side of um or parking would be rather on the sidewalk side so that customers still can still get in and out and enjoy our downtown. So, I'm sure that they will do anything that we ask because they have been wonderful through the whole process.

Yeah, I just think it's important for us to coordinate that so that we don't create any unnecessary obstacles. I'll put that on my list. Thank you. And I will also check in with Eddie to make sure that we give us some type of uh timeline as to that. All right. You have heard the request and it been motion been made and properly second. And is there any other comments and questions? All those in favor of this of this motion of approving these events signify by saying I. I. Those opposed say nay.

Thank you. Now, Scott County Farmers Market. Good evening. Um, very excited about starting the market again. We will begin on May 9th, Mother's Day weekend, and we will go through September 26th. We will tag on to land a couple of the activities that um Lori has shared um for our popup markets this coming year. So, um we are excited about having the opportunity to be involved in those. Um we want to thank you for the support that you gave us last year. Um, the closing down of the parking lot at midnight the night before was very helpful. Um, and the support that we got, we had regular visits each week by the police that walked through and just made sure things were going well and it it really made a difference for that for us. Um, just so you know, the pavilion, having the pavilion last year, our total sales were $60,000 more than the year before. We had so many more customers, particularly during August and September when it was very hot because it was a very it was very um comfortable to walk through the market. Um, I had to wear a sweatshirt a couple days because there's a wind that goes through there and cools things down and so it makes it very enjoyable to be there. Um, so that um, we've really really enjoyed having the pavilion and the difference that it's made for our market. We are expanding a little bit this year. um may adds a few tents every once in a while um because we have some visiting vendors that aren't can't come every week but that can come um throughout the season. Um and so I think that's going to also help us to be able to have um more offerings for our um customers. So any questions

or All right at this Oh yeah, just a real quick question. Um are you still accepting vendor applications and what's a brief overview of the price structure for that too? Okay, the um we are accepting what we are calling visiting vendors. Our full-time vendors spaces have already been filled, but we have times during the summer where people can't come and so we want to have other vendors come in and and fill their spots. Um it's a $200 fee for the whole season if you are a full-time vendor. It is $25 a time for a visiting vendor until they get to 200 and then we don't charge them anymore after that. Great.

Reasonable. Very reasonable for especially if you look at some of the markets around the area. That's great. Thank you. All right. You mayor, one other quick question. So, in in a similar light, um Devin, you had sent out this morning an update on the city hall and the back of city hall and the paving and striping and that u just the coordination and timing of not only doing that but getting the equipment out, you know, so that they they're able to maximize the space available. You know, that would be wonderful. Yeah, I've got your contact information through the application, so I'll contact you with updates as we schedule.

Excellent. Oh, excellent. That's good. And um any chance there's a bathroom? Access. Okay. Well, we appreciate still working on that. You're still working on Okay, thanks. City Hall not done yet. All right. At You have heard the request. Do I have a motion? So moved. Motion made by Mr. Minky. Do I have a second? Second. Second made by Miss Ham. Are there further questions and or comments? All those in favor of the motion signify by saying I. I. Those opposed say nay. Thank you. Uh look forward to seeing you down there. Yes.

Uh item 6G, Southern Knights.

Good afternoon. And I've got something I really got to tell you all. I am so thankful that y'all let us come back up here. Uh the last cruise we had, thanks to the Georgetown City Police and everybody up here, we had almost 200 cars and it was wonderful. But tonight, I'm here to propose two more cruises. I talked to Lori. Uh we're going to change would like to change the July 11th to July the 4th. the July the 4th y'all are having your parade. So with her help, we thought we would come in after the parade, maybe bring us some cars in behind. After the parade, then we go out, come back, the treats streets will already be closed. So don't have to worry about that. Uh and we thought that would be probably more the wonderful ideal than the 11th. Also on September, we want to go back here to the farmers market. So we would like to have your approval on both of them. And

I was just going to touch on the Fourth of July. If you don't mind, go ahead. Step in. Thank you. Um, Miss Brenda and I talked about the fact that, you know, we're trying to be as friendly to our downtown businesses as possible and we were having the discussion about the July 11th and we've got several things coming up in July where, you know, there's going to be um with the Fourth of Fourth of July parade, then we'd have the July 11th, then we'd have our concert and some other things. Um, and I just threw out the idea, would they consider, since the streets are already closed on July 4th, would they be willing to do um their car show immediately afterwards, actually be in the parade and then come back around and be in downtown. Now, before I did that, I want you to know I did talk to the downtown businesses, just so you know. I did have a discussion with them about it. Um, most of the retail they close as soon as parade scatters. So, they had no problem with it. And the restaurants enjoy having uh the car show down there. They see it as a benefit. So, the downtown businesses as a whole agreed that yes, with it already being closed, and they close already right around that noon to 12:30, it would make more sense to go ahead and keep it closed rather than asking for it to close on July 11th. Um, so I just wanted you all to know that I was the one who kind of brought the idea up um as a solution between, you know, downtown businesses being able to continue on and for them to be able to have their show also. So,

and I have Oh, I should say I did speak to Tom Combmes about it, too, because I said, you know, this affects you all. Um, with them going to be part of the parade and he was all for it as me and him discussed what's more American for 250th birthday than having a fabulous car show in your downtown. And then after you do the parade and you go to the car show, then you go out to Brooking Park uh for fireworks and music. I mean, what's more Americana than that? And we've also volunteered. Anybody that wants to ride in one of them cars, if you'll let me know, we got you taken care of. Yes.

All righty. At this time, you have heard the request. Do I have a motion? A motion, Mayor. Motion, Mayor. Okay. Motion made by Miss Brent, second made by Miss Sames. Are there further questions and or comments? Uh, yes, Mayor. Yes. Um, looking at the September 26 application, uh, did you say it was at the Yes. farmers market for market. Okay. The application says Broadway to Malberry. We changed that back because, uh, she suggested that we didn't want to ch uh, to close the streets again. So, we we want to go back down there instead of closing the streets.

Okay. But it says, "Will the streets be closed?" Yes. On a se on a September 26 application. Does she just need to send a corrected one? Yes. Send a corrected one to Tracy and then come back before you all. Will that work? Okay. Would that be good? Actually, actually, she wouldn't have to come back. No, fine. That's fine. as as the mo and make it into I'll make it into the motion that your second event will be at the pavilion and your first event will be fourth July on Main Street. Thank you. I just made it into the motion. Thank you. Actually, I guess you should have made it motion. And that's fine. Okay. Everybody is working very well.

Okay. So, we have a motion made. Okay. And second. Yes. All right. Are there further questions and or comments? So, we're going to make those amendments to that and then we're moving forward. Are there any other questions? Those in favor of this compromise. Compromise. Those in favor of this motion signify by saying I. I. Those opposed say nay. And there you go. All right. Um

I'm going to There was an individual that wanted to speak uh that did not put his he had his name on here, but he went outside. He had to take a phone call. So, uh, Terry Thomas, he wanted to come back on public comments and he was not in at the time, so I'm going to let him come back up and and go ahead and have his four minutes. Go ahead.

Thank you. I apologize. And it probably won't take a full four minutes, but I'm up here talking about the King Richards. Um, the last time I was here, I was up here with the Tilfords. And after we done what we done, we remember that Tiffford and I walked out and the next line of business was going into this nomination. So I wasn't in here, but I know my phone was ringing in my pocket. And when I went to dial it, it died. So I really didn't know what the phone call was about, but it was about King Richardson. Well, when I got to my phone, the first thing that I heard, King Richardson. I don't know who knows him or much about him, but the first thing come to my mind when they mention his name was he was the owner of Hansel Williamson, the Hall of Fame blacksmith. Hansel Williams was the first he won the first Kentucky Derby. He was the owner of this man. He was also the owner of Harry Lewis. When we talking about Boston and the you know the Boston the book and all of that is another great trainer by the name of Harry Lewis which lived out on Seabbed. Uh we talking about him too. This man owned both of them. Uh at 17 when his father died, he inherited over 200 slaves off a Transennsylvania plantation. He had slaves in Louisiana, a large amount number of slaves in Louisiana and you know the lesson to be learned out of all of this. I got respect for

the society, but you made a you made a mistake on this. When we got a man, this man was charged with treason and he went to Europe and he didn't come back until all of that stuff was taken care of. This is dominate this man. One of the lessons, you know, to the mayor, he was on my hand parts. He was on me when I was trying to do the cemetery eight times or so. We kept talking about mayor, I done it. I done it. He wanted to make sure that we had this just right. And I was with him. I went along with every cause. We had to have this right. How can you do the history of this man? All you got to do is hit Google. But how can you do the history? You, you know, we in positions. We got people that we taking care of. You know, every district we, you know, somebody come up here, cuten it up. We don't go back, check facts, this is what we get. This man do not deserve. Thank you. This man do not deserve. Well, matter of fact, what he need not to be down Royal Springs or anything like that. He need I heard a little bit about where they wanted to put it. Why? Just put it there. If this man means so much to this society, find another place to put it. But don't do this to us. Just don't do this to us. All righty. All right. Sorry about that.

Okay. All right. Uh, next is the Speaking of that, we uh before I get into item number seven, I want to um kind of um reiterate uh something that this uh council knows, but maybe some people in the public do not know. uh is to uh introduce my uh new uh executive assistant at at the city hall, Pam Sergeant. She's not here tonight, but I just want you all to know that uh you know, she is she is hitting it out of the park. I'm very much pleased with her. Uh you know, just for the short period of time and looking at her background, she really fits what we need here in the city. And I think some and this council and others if you get opportunity to come down and and meet her and talk to her, you will find out that she's pretty one of the best. She's a uh homegrown so she knows about this community here. So, uh I don't think we could have gotten a better person for this position. So, I just want to give make sure you all knew who that was and also the public needs to know who my new executive assistant is for the city of Georgetown. Next uh item number 7A, the historical mark or applications. Uh you know, some of this issue came up after the fact. So I asked Glenn Tall to come back and go there with some questions raised by council on this and uh so I'm going to let Mr. Tall talk a little bit about it and then we'll go from there. Mr. Tall.

Well, let me ask first, where would you like for me to start? I know the original question is why the difference was between one location to the point where I was asking to put it in Royal Spring Park. Would you like for me to start there or start where you want to start?

Okay. We wanted uh the Scott County Historical Society wants to be an educator of Scott County history. With all the new people moving into this county, they won't know Unless they come to programs at the Scott County Historical Site, they won't know about anything about the history of Scott County. The historical marker program in Kentucky has been in existence since the 1940s. The main purpose of those markers is to place a story about an event at that particular place in in a particular time. Now a recent book came out called reinventing the thoroughbred by Gary Odell. It was revealed that Alexander King Richards was an international and national recognized breeder of thoroughbred horses. Now he didn't gain this reputation until after the Civil War. Yes, he was a slave owner. Yes, he owned slaves down in trans his transennsylvania plantation in Louisiana. He had slaves up here. He he did I mean I don't like these aspects of his life. Uh and he was uh participated in the confederate side of the American of of the Civil War. I mean he even he even helped John C. Breenidge who was the vice president of the United States at the time and who was his neighbor up here on college and Broadway at one time. Breenidge practice law in this town for one year from between 1844 and 1845. So he even so he helped uh when the federal authorities were after Breeridge they helped him he helped him escape. He

was a member of the Confederate convention to get uh Kentucky to secede from the Union. And then he fought in several battles and then he left the army and he as Terry says he pro he went over to Europe for but that's where he was going to buy thoroughbreds to bring back to his farm here to breed. So we wanted to honor him and we don't want to honor him. This is an educational thing. It's not about honoring. It's about educating Kuckians about the story of their state. and Scott County had a big role in the development of the thoroughbred industry in Kentucky and the industry has been in this state since the settlement period. I app so we as a society wanted to start this process of um putting up a historical marker about Mr. because of Gary Odell's book. We're finally re I mean we're finally informed about his life and what he did for the thoroughbread industry. I appro in that respect we you the state has a different process now than they used to before any citizen or group wanting to put up a historical marker had to do everything they said. They had to write the script the text of the marker. They had to raise the money for the marker. They had to put in the application with the Kentucky Historical Society for the marker. They It was a long process. Well, the process has been changed. They all the invite nominations once a year and that was this and this is what I came before you all about. Uh this at this time the deadline was April the 1st. When I first asked the city to

write a letter of support, I had in mind the corner of Rucker and Broadway. His farm comes down, the border of his farm comes down that far. if you've seen the map that's been given to you. And I approached the owner, the business owner there about that. And she wanted to know exactly where we wanted to put it. Was it going to be in her yard? Was it going to be on between the sidewalk or and the curb on Broadway? Or was it going to be on Rucker? Well, I gave her all those possibilities, but I wasn't going to have the final say. is the Kentucky Historical Society and the Highway Department. Well, she wanted to know specifically where it was going to be. And so I called her. I asked her, "Well, where would you be comfortable on having it?" She told me between the sidewalk and the curb and she wanted in writing. I called Dr. Siver at the Kentucky Historical Society. I asked him to write a letter to that effect to her. Well, then she came back with a letter or an email wanting to know, still wanting to know specifically where it was going to be. It's like Abraham Lincoln and his spot resolutions during the Mexican War. And she was not satisfied with that. Well, that to me said that she was not willing to collaborate or cooperate with what we wanted to do. And she has every right to refuse that sign on her property. So, I looked at the map again and Dr. and Mr. Richard's property comes down to what now is Water Spring Park,

Royal Spring Park. And I thought, I'm running out of time. I don't have and I I could have negotiated with, but I just didn't have time to negotiate with her. She could put more obstacles in my way. And I called Councilwoman Mitchell about, well, what can I do? Would the city agree to write I mean I think they were going to write a letter of support anyway, but that wasn't going to include the permission to um put the sign on city property. I had to I had to ask that additional one because the Kentucky Historical Society wants assurance that if they and the project's not approved yet, it won't be decided on until August or some somewhere in that area. If it's approved, they want assurance that the marker will be can be put up where I said I'm applying for. So that's where the mixup came in the original one. And that's why we change locations. Let me do y'all have any questions at that point? Okay. Do you want me to answer Mr. Thomas's? I I have a question. So, to continue the story, you you turned in the original uh the the the information what I gave you was to talk to the mayor.

Yes. And then when you submitted your information to the mayor, it had the original address. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Uh because when Exactly. So, when I sent in the original request for a letter of support, it had the Rucker Broadway corner on it.

I didn't have the time by the time I talked to Councilwoman Mitchell about it to send you an updated uh application, nomination application. So, that's where that's exactly where the the mixup came. Um, I am not, we don't want to put this marker up to honor or put him in a hall of fame or write erect a statue in his honor. This is an educational instrument. You've gone, all of you all been across the state. You've been around here. You've seen the historical markers. We have markers in this county up for disreputable people as bad as Alexander Keane Richards. I mean, look at Basil W. Duke, general of the Confederate Army in the Civil War. We have Zeralda Cole and Robert James, the parents of Jesse James, who was married in Satieville. We have This is not about honoring. This is about telling a story. This is about telling a part of a story. And there are about 29 markers in Kentucky about the horse industry and horse racing. Only two about horse breeding uh horse breeders. It's a big gap in the story. And one of those horse breeders name is if I can find it quickly uh his name is Deathly Brown. He's a He was a a black horse ra uh breeder in uh Woodford County near Midway. His name is up there. There's another horse breeder here that is not Oh, it was Edward Dudley Brown. Excuse me. He was an African-American horse owner, developer, and jockey and a former

slave. What What I I'm a historian. I I I just don't want to get us we already in a an atmosphere of political correctness in history. Uh I mean if we go if we have the same kind of attitude about denying Richard's story because he contributed a lot even though he was a he was deficient in those other areas in his life. We're denying the people of Kentucky and Scott County the story, part of our story. We need to know the good and the bad. Now, the text, I don't have any control what the text is going to be. If it is approved, it will go to the Kentucky Historical Society to write the text. Now, we may have some u ability to tweak the text once we it's approved and it's written, but my anticipation is that it's going to be about Blueg Grass Park. That was the name of Richard's breeding farm here and it's just a half a mile up the road. Um I'm sorry that he owned slaves. I'm I'm sorry that he's got that in his history. I mean, my ancestors uh fought on the Union side. Of course, some of them fought on the Confederate side. We're we're split in that way. U not crazy about that. And some of my ancestors own slaves. Um the story I have, uh I won't go into it, but it it's a long story. I mean, I I descend from an indentured convict and servant that came to this country in 1742. And there's a part of the story

that I do not understand because she had my fifth greatgrandfather out of wedlock. He was a bastard. And my name, my family name comes from her because we don't know his father. But when he moved to Kentucky in 1787, somehow he got the money to buy sp 950 acres in uh Clark and Montgomery counties. And he owned slaves. And I don't understand why he owned slaves because of the background he had of his mother coming. And he himself was in bondage when he was born. And he didn't get his freedom until probably just before the revolution broke out. He he and his brother sued for their freedom in 1763. And the court threw the case out. Um, and I've just found that out in the last few years, but he did get his freedom and he did come to Kentucky and he set up our family. So, I'm I'm the beneficiary of all that. But I just want to emphasize that this is not a uh an attempt by the historical society to honor a slave owner and a traitor. Uh I'm I don't know if he got his was formally re-established as a citizen or not. I'm assuming there when Andrew Johnson became president, he pardoned a lot of uh Confederate soldiers and so forth. And he did, but he and Richards struggled financially after the Civil War. He was not as wealthy as as he was before the Civil War. And that's where be before he got poor after the civil war, he put a lot of

money of his wealth in trying to uh reinvent the thoroughbred. He went to the Middle East and shopped for a purebred Arabian horses and to bring them back and interbreed them to uh increase their stamina because horse racing in that time were heats. They they ran four miles in a heat and they might do it several times a day. So they were looking for that quality in a racehorse that could withstand those. It's not like today. Just a short onem heat uh race. So, any questions?

I have a comment and a question and then I'll go next. Go ahead. You want me to go or do you want

No, go ahead. You go ahead. Um, was there my my question is is when any of the communication was taking place between you all and the historical society and the historical society and the people who do the signs, was there any mention of the fact that he was a slaveholder and convicted of treason and did that come into play? Their position their position is to tell the story. Let the facts lay where they are. You make your own judgment.

Well, here's here's my comment. I I've been to the I've been to a lot of historical places in um Montichello and a lot of places that could tell just the story about Jefferson's presidency. But when you go there, part of the education is Sally Hemmings and the fact that he had slaves and the same with Washington's Mount Vernon. They now it's it's a it's a both and

it's not an eitheror. We just tell about horseback riding and horseback breeding and whatever. That's that's admirable. When you go to Texas at the state capital and you read all of the historical signs there, on one side it tells all of the things that the Confederates did and on the other side all of the things that they did that were not admirable. And I feel most comfortable with a historical sign in this day and age that's both and and not either or. I understand that the that the original intent was to tell the story of horse breeding and again it's very admirable but I really cannot vote for a sign that does not tell the other part of the story if we're going to put an educational marker up especially if it ends up at Royal Spring. I I just don't feel comfortable if we can tell the whole story. I I think that's history.

Well, I mean, I would like that, too. I don't know if they've got room on the sign to do it. Well, there's two sides to the sign. Yeah. Yeah. And I can talk to Dr. Siver about that. Uh, and just let him know where you all stand on that. Um, I mean, I've already gave him a heads up over this conversation that we're having. Um, I don't have any problems about Yeah, this is no reflection on you. That's why I've asked about conversations back and forth, but I I just have to hold to that.

And there's other ways we can uh tell that story. I mean, we've got a museum. I' we've got the historical society. I've had programs on black history uh on slaves. We've had Aline Turley. Well, let me profer this. Okay. There were Klux Clan meetings in Scott County. Yeah. In certain places that are known, right? Do we want to put a sign talking about the famous Klux Clan leaders that were from Scott County there? Well, I don't know if we want to put a sign up about the leaders, but

Well, my point my my point in saying that is a sign means something more than going to the museum and seeing something in a glass case with a little piece of paper. Mhm. I think we don't have that many signs and so we are emblematically leaving out important information.

Well, here's an here's an experience I had when I was city commissioner in Danville. I had a constituent call me up was a bookstore owner. There was a book that came out. It was entitled Hitler Path to Power and it was written by Charles Braceland Flood over at Eastern Kentucky University. There were two men that came in there and wanted that book taken out of their window and the book signing u cancelled. And she was concerned about censorship uh giving honor to a you know an evil man like Hitler. But I didn't really see it that way because the the author was not talking about glorifying him. He was trying to educate the public how such a dropout high school Austrian was able to rise up through the ranks and become chancellor of Germany and then put the whole world in flames.

Well, let's do the same about this son. Well, I agree. I agree. But again, I have no control. I don't have any direct control over That's what worries me. Yeah. Is that we don't if we vote for this, we don't have control what's on the sign. So that's where I land. Well, just Sanja. Oh, okay. Go ahead. I I agree with what Councilman Ham says or whatever most

I just want to put on the record. Um when we voted for this, I honestly I just want to say I made a mistake because I didn't do my do diligence of doing my research and I wouldn't have voted yes. um I had constituents to approach me and I went and read up and all that. Um I didn't have all the information that we have now, but like I said, I I want to take ownership that I did make a a mistake and I I I just can't say yes to that. I don't agree with putting it up maybe at the at the place that you wanted to with the individual, but not at Royal Springs. But I like I said, I just want to put that on the record that I I just don't agree.

Okay, let's see. We're not in order here. Let's see. Uh I think Miss Mitchell and then Todd

and I think that um at the last meeting we did say that we would write the letter and that and it did say that it was Royal Springs Park. And so I think that if having learned this information that we if we want to change our minds about that we have to make a motion to undo that. I think that's correct. And um and my question would be um in this case because it is city property it you know we have we would be condoning it for whatever reason and um if you still want to pursue the sign somewhere else where it the city council doesn't have to approve it. it it might um that might sit better with the council having got gained this extra information since last time.

Mr. Stone,

thank you sir. Um I agree that you know he did a lot for the horse racing industry. Don't get me wrong on this, but rather than tell his story, u why not tell the story of Bluegrass Park, include Anel Williamson, include Harry Lewis. That was the jockeyies and the friers and the trainers. You know, I I agree that he did a lot for the horse racing industry, don't get me wrong, but Mr. Williamson, Mr. Lewis also did a lot for the horse racing industry because they trained a lot of the horses. So instead of focusing on Keen and I can't remember his last name. Thank you.

Um instead of focusing on him, how about we change the focus of it and say the Bluegrass Park Farm was responsible for this. That might be this guy owned it. But here's what happened. You know, good and bad. But I think I think if we go at it from that standpoint, naming the farm instead of the person,

I think that might be somewhat easier to deal with. Um, and I think the education part of it becomes this farm did a great thing in that it was responsible for bringing the horses in from Arabian horses and to to do more for the thoroughbreds. You know, I'm not trying to sugarcoat history. Trust me, I'm

I don't want to I'm a I'm a firm believer in history. Yeah. But I think in this case, tell the story of the farm, not the man. The ones that trained the horses on the farm that led to the great things in the horse racing industry, not the person that just happened to be at the top of the top of the heap on that farm. There's a there is another and it doesn't it doesn't um probably change that the view any but I don't know if any of you are familiar with the artist Edward Troy.

Richard housed him on his property. Edward Troy managed his farm when Troy was away in the Civil War. Um, if if you look on the map that you have, you'll see the house where Troy was, uh, resided. And Troy is buried in Georgetown Cemetery, as is Keem Richards. So, uh, I I don't have any problems with what you're saying. And the only thing I can the the nomination's already been submitted with the letter from the city. The only thing I can do right now is call Dr. Siver up and let him know your all's position

and and so when it and when it if it is approved if it is approved and make him known that this is way you all want it written because they're going to have a staff member from at the Kentucky Historical Society draft the text. Okay. Did you happen on that note? Because the action's been completed. You can't undo it, right?

But what you all could as a body do is you could um we could draft a resolution that's directed towards the Kentucky Historical Society, who whatever it is, and that resolution could capture the collective uh message that you all want to send, and you could formalize it that way if you want like a tangible thing to deliver. Okay. All right. Do we need to make a motion to do that? Well, we just met He had a question. Well, I I was just gonna Todd is very well said. That's I was going to say the same thing.

So, I I I think instead of, you know, it should be we should concentrate on Mr. Williamson and Mr. Lewis in whatever we do. Um, and I would be glad to make a motion to draft a resolution that we um send to the Executive Historical Society stating that our preference would be to recognize these two individuals and the the farm as well. And I think the mayor has Mr. Se Dr. Sever's address, so yes, I do. He can send it to him. Okay. Um, so a motion has been made. I'll second. Do I have a second?

I'll second. Second. Okay, Miss Brent. Second. Now, are there further questions or comments? Mr. Minky.

So, I I too have the the same thing. When you look at history now, a lot of it is location and labor. So along the same lines of what Todd was talking about, I I don't think that you need to limit it to just the three individuals that you're talking about because there's a whole lot more that operate that farm that make it a success. um when when I sent my information to you that that's what I was referring to in my Paul Harvey moment of the rest of the story.

Well, just be mindful that you've seen the signs in there's not much room for a lot of text. You can't go. It's not like writing a book. I I totally understand that. But there are ways to craft a message that cover the topic to educate which was your primary purpose and to tell not only the story but the whole story.

And so that that's my point. The other point is in in all the confusion of putting it in Royal Spring Park. And so without telling that whole story, you have this disconnect between one of the stories we're trying to tell with the park is black enslaved, former slaves that had built the cabin and lived in the cabin. and the all the economics and the social foundations that were laid in this community around that spring from a lot of members in this community and you know researching a lot of that. There's a lot of economic things that were started there uh by the black community that we have really built upon as a strong foundation in this community. the water as a water source an ice house there there are a number of things there so I think it is important

but you you can only do that excuse me in a in successive science the so I think it's important that whatever phraseology we use there we're telling the whole story and capture it the unfortunately what we received was all just glowing things about what King Richards did. Uh, which are all true and are part of that story, but it's not all of the story. So, Miss Okay, Miss Sams,

uh, I just want to say I'm kind of with Willow on I would love to see I see that your hands are tied. This goes to Frankfurt, but I'd love to see it say because history actually history is more exciting when you see the good, the bad, and the ugly. And the gentleman did good, but the gentleman had a a sorted past that we wouldn't want to really celebrate. If you could change the language, like Willow said, change the language that's on the sign that it said his past discretions as well as his successes and had the full story as Kim said on it.

But if that couldn't be done, I have two other suggestions and I'm just throwing it out here. Um, one, if it's just all gonna be about the horses, why doesn't it go to O friends? If it's just going to be about the horses and his breeding, maybe that's a good location for it.

The other part of it is if they will not change it or add the other side of the story to the sign so someone can see this full perspective of the gentleman, what if we put the sign up to tell the rest of the story? There's nothing that prevents us. If the state of Kentucky does their side and puts it up and that's all on them, why could we not, as he was talking about with farm and the trainers and his background and being a slave owner, we put up our own sign right next to it that says this is also the other story of this gentleman because I don't believe in hiding history. We learn from our history and try not to make those mistakes again. But I'm like Willow. I want to see the good, the bad, and the ugly part of it to understand uh humanity and people and how we changed and how we've grown. So, that would be my suggestion. I I feel really comfortable that the council is saying to you tonight, but they don't want the sign as probably is either the concentrate on the farm, concentrate on our our local or tell the story of who this man was completely. Um, so but if they don't say that and they say no, they can't change that and you have to come back to us. Maybe they can find the new location, a different location, or we go back and we put the other story next to it so somebody can have what the state's saying plus what Scott County feel that we don't want to neglect a portion of our citizens here that might be upset by that. So we've got it both out there so everybody can clearly know who this person is. So that's just a suggestion. Um, just to comment on your first comment about putting it at Old Friends, we want to put it there because his farm came down that far at a Royal Spring and the sign program is to put the sign where an event actually happened.

I understand it. Okay,

Mr. Chris. Yeah, I agree with the rest of council. Um, with controversial and complex historical figures, which, you know, we see quite a bit throughout history. um a a sign in light of the newer information we've received, you know, about this gentleman and and his deeds. Uh unless it could be worded properly to do justice to everything, the good, the bad, and the ugly, which is probably tough on a historical marker. You you know, we've all seen them. Five, six sentences, you can't really do a lot in that regard. I would rather just not see a historical marker if for him and his deeds if you can only just uh tell just all the good stuff uh in everyone's mind and not represent uh you know the whole picture of of who he was. So I I share everyone's concern and agree that uh a different solution should should come to play.

We have a motion on the floor. Yes. I'm waiting on Okay. So, we have a motion made and I have a comment about it. Okay. Motion was made and properly second. It was seconded, I think. Yeah. So, now any other questions? I I'm a little confused about the legality at this point. Okay. A letter was sent that we as a council sounds like are not pleased with the original letter because we didn't have the whole story. So it sounds like we can't change that is what you said, but we can do a resolution. That's not what you said. And there's been a motion about the resolution.

Okay. So let me before about going further, I need we we're talking about this. I think that, you know, we have a motion all this, but one thing we can do is this. We can have him look, you know, we got to find out exactly him talking to Dr. Sever if that's possible. And if it's not possible, then I get it. But um motion has been made properly second. Go ahead. But that's my question. Correct. Go ahead. That's not what I said. Okay. Sorry. As far as the parliamentary procedure goes, if the letter had not been submitted, you would have some type of

right. Yes or no? The question is do you want to write a letter of support for this project? So if you split it into two decision points, one is are you still support of it having a sign in the park, right? Since we're the property owner and that was one of the key reasons for why he came to the city council. The second question is the scope of what the sign is about related to this individual or the farm or the other activities. Um, you really need to think through those as two separate actions. The letter that was submitted was in support of the original ask which was related to this gentleman and the sign being placed at Royal Spring Park.

But we have a resolution. So, and a second. So, do we have to come back and amend that? So, we should we should be doing two separate action from what I'm hearing. So, but but go ahead. But isn't there a third option? because you can withdraw the letter of support. That's what I what I was saying with the resol. So you can use a resolution as the formal mechanism as the council to send whatever message you want. So you can say in the resolution we we direct the mayor to contact whatever and resend. That's what I would do that. So now we had a motion.

So can you restate the motion so that we know what it says? Yeah. Okay. Let me get this right. Um the resolution make a motion. The resolution should reference the um the farm instead of the farm in instead of the individual along with um Mr. Williamson and Mr. Lewis and rescend resend the other resend and that we resend the previous resolution sent to you. Is that Yeah. So you going to So you're going to resend the original

the original whatever you said originally. Yeah. Because that's what's still on the table. Yes. Yeah. You either now I'm confused. Yeah. Can you Will you please just withdraw your motion? We'll start fresh. I'm going to withdraw my motion. There you go. Second. Now second. All right. So now we withdraw on the motion and properly second. Are there further questions and or comments? All those in favor of this motion of withdrawing it signify by saying I. Those opposed say nay. Now the new one you can put in. You want it, Greg? You want me to? Please.

Okay. Thank you. I make a motion that we submit a letter to the historical society for the support of a historical marker to be put at Royal Springs Park to honor the Bluegrass Park farm to also name Harry Lewis Ana Williamson as trainers and and of the horse horses. and not the specific owner, but the farm as as a whole. But that doesn't say resend the other

and resend the that all was res. Oh, you're right. And I want to resend the previous letter. Start with resend. Let's resend it and then start over. No, but we can resend the letter with the new new motion. So, all right. Hold on just a minute. So, all right, Emily, address that up. Emily, could you could you read that to us what they what you have gotten written down, please? A motion to and you want to submit a letter of support honoring the Bluegrass Park Farm, I believe is what you said, to name Harry Lewis and Anel Williams. Um, not Alexander Keen Richards. Correct.

I don't think that's fair. Yeah. You're again you're editing history. Okay. Make withdraw. Could I make a Wait, hold up. Wait a minute. Now, let's go one at a time here. Okay. All right. So, everybody can hear what everybody's saying. All right. Okay. I withdrew motion. So, he's withdrew his motion. Okay. So, yeah. Can we just have a simple motion if someone would make it to resend? That's what I was going to say. The original letter of support. Let's do that. Can we can we will someone make a motion to resend the original motion? I'll second the original resolution.

All right. So, you made a motion made by Mr. Hampton, second by Mr. Minky. Now, all those in favor of this, any questions and or comments. All those in favor of this motion signify by saying I. I. Now the next one we have to do is you can now if you want to do a letter of support put in the information which uh that going to include the farm the whole plus whatever and again you want to if you want to put everybody that's involved that it might be him involved with that. Well it's got to be him. He owned the farm. Right. Right. Yeah. Could I let's do it this way. I make a res a motion. Can we just talk resolution

to honor Bluegrass Park Farm and all the uh successes that they had within the thoroughbred horse racing industry and promoting Scott County along as such. All right. Okay. That is a motion made. So, is there a second to that motion?

All right. That gets as bold down as possible. Repeat, repeat that again. Make a motion that we honor that we submit a letter to honor the Bluegrass Park farm and all of its successes within the thoroughbred horse racing industry in within Georgetown and Scott County and the United States. Okay. All right. So, your motion's been made. Do I have a second? I would recommend um I know we've talked a lot gotten a lot of good information um gotten a lot of feedback from the council and I don't want to I don't want to push things but it it seems like the spirit of it is that you all want

you're not opposed to a marker in the location. You just are trying to piece together what that story looks like. So, I think the Scott County Historical Society as the applicant understanding the Kentucky uh historical society process should we got a motion on the floor that nobody said there has to have a second once it dies then then we can give further information but we have to deal with the motion on the floor first but then second that motion nobody nobody call you didn't call for the second yet you did I did okay then it's died announce that the motion did then we can go forward. Okay. So, go ahead.

So, hearing all that, I think it would be incumbent upon, you know, us, mayor, this request came to you to submit the letter of support. The the motion has been made to rescend that. We can put that into action um tomorrow. Um and then I think it would be productive then to come back and like like I said, the Scott County Historical Society is the applicant. They've heard the spirit of how you all feel about this. Um, and I think it's kind of incumbent upon them to kind of just come back with what they would propose, knowing that you all want to tell the whole story, knowing that you want there to be um, attention and honor and, you know, education brought to not just the owner of the property and the farm, but the whole story and the spirit of those folks who who made it um, made it part of history. So, I think we'll we'll move forward with that. Um, rescending the letter and um, we'll work with Mr. Tall through the mayor's office to to come back to address you all with the spirit of what we heard tonight. Thank you.

Thank you. All right. Next. All right. Thank you, Mr. Tall. Okay. All right. Next, the Sorry about the confusion.

It's okay. Police Academy graduates, Caitlyn Cook and Jonathan Jackson, Chief. Mayor, council, I'm excited to uh introduce to everyone our two newest uh graduates from the police academy, officer Caitlyn Cook and Officer Jonathan Jackson. They recently graduated uh March the 26th. They're members of class 567. So, a little bit about Officer Cook. She was born and raised here in Georgetown. Uh she went to Scott County High School and then went over to Great Cross after it was built and she was a member of the first uh class that graduated from there. After graduation, she went to Georgetown College where she graduated in 2024. She likes to travel, teach her dog new tricks. Um her goal is to investigate internet crimes against children andor human sex trafficking. uh she chose the Georgetown Police Department after doing an internship and one of her college classes and so far she said she's been loving it. So interesting fact um you know how hard it is for us to recruit and get people um to sign up and four of you that's been on police committee and everybody knows the time and effort that we put into that. Katie is the first one that we've recruited. She is one of my students in my class and I'm excited to have her. So going to lean on her to continue to recruit wink wink to get other people uh other candidates to hopefully join our agency. Officer Jackson uh he grew up in Wilmore which is home to Hybrid Springwater and Asbury University. He graduated from West Jessine High School and went on to further his education at Asbury University on a baseball scholarship. Uh there he studied uh contemporary music

theory and his major was in worship arts. His hobbies, he has a whole list. He's going to stay busy.

So he includes uh golf, uh softball, hunting, leather stamping or leather working, um fine arts, which is painting, sketching, and music, and spending time with his wife Katie and his three-month old daughter. Uh his goal is to be the best police officer that he can be, learn as much as possible, and make a lifelong career out of his newfound passion of law enforcement. So, interesting fact about officer Jackson, his father-in-law is a retired school resource officer for us here in Georgetown. And obviously, his father-in-law um helped recruit him to get him to come join with us. So, I'm excited to have both of these young officers and excited to see where their career takes them. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND Officer Jackson and Officer Officer Cook. Welcome to the finest agency in this in the state of Kentucky. All right. Moving on to item number uh mayor's comments uh 7C. uh the update of the 2026 Senate appropriation and revenue request for legacy com run commerce park. You know this can

Mr. Mayor I need to recuse myself on this due to a potential conflict with an immediate family member. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

All right. I'll wait. All right. Uh as you know that uh a resolution was passed by this council in Gimmy's uh expressing support for the uh public own u uh infrastructure and also road maintenance for that it is connection with this legacy uh uh run um uh commerce uh project. Uh as you as you know we did not put a a dollar figure on it because we wanted to wait to see just what the state wanted to put in involved. So, in coming back, we have heard that uh through the uh great leadership of Senator Matt Nun, uh we were able to get they were able to secure $3 million for this project. So, uh that being said, uh and we still want to show our support for this project, I'm going to make a u strong recommendation that I'm going to put in this year's budget $500,000 towards this project. in the budget, upcoming budget.

So, was that a $5 million project though? Yes.

I thought our um our motion in support of that was up was up to 5 million or up to our half of up to 5 million. uh depending on whether or not what the state would actually have. And so we were committing that it was our portion of that along with the county along with whatever portion the state would provide. So of the two million that's left, that would be a million from the city and a million from the county. Well, like I said, I'm going I'm going to I'm I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to strongly suggest we put 500. I think I can't talk about the county, but I think they're going to be what equal probably what we put up with, right?

But I this project goes in phases. So therefore, you know, some of the things that, you know, they could be doing with this project will be done in phases. So they maybe they only need the four million to get started with this and then and the other part goes in phases. Also, I I understood that the uh property owner might have a part in it as well. Yes. And so if if the state had three million, what what your recommendation is 500,000 from the city and then the county can do what they want to do and then the property owner may be left with the rest of it. I I don't know. Okay. Is that

was that that was my understanding. I had a different understanding because that the property owner was my understanding of the property owner was after the fact that there as we if you recall part of what I talked about was we needed to develop a process because this was an incentive that is not part of a another project. And so we needed to define under what standards and processes we were going to participate in the future uh under what conditions because we had another resident that made a very similar request even prior to this for a street. Uh and so I think it's important that one we live up to our uh original commitment uh as an equal partner with the county uh and then if we can work out the uh potential rebates and things like that based on construction. I think that's one of the things that's part of that process. And so you're saying that the original commitment was the city does a million and the county does

in this case because because the state, right? Well, like I said, you know, but this is all negotiable, too. Okay. So So we don't actually have to take an action. You're just letting us know what you're putting in the budget.

That's this is when I'm going to recommend to put I'm going to put in the budget for this year for that particular project. Okay. All right. But so I I would make a motion that we live up to our obligation of this and and set the record. Uh since the state came in with 3 million that and the original project was stated at five subject to negotiation later with the developer uh that we would contribute up to $1 million uh and if the county provides their 1 million to make it go forward and and then develop a process to make sure that we identify for the future what that process is for any other project.

So I won't speak to the the comment and the concept of developing a process because I think we we all agreed during the first conversation that ultimately there would need to be some kind of a defined process to make sure all requests like this are handled uniformly. Um, I do think it's probably worth uh a read of of the resolution. Um, just in terms of the way it reads, um, the county's resolution said that they were supportive of of the application with local matching funds up to a million dollars. They didn't say a million dollars. They said 20% of the estimated project cost. So, that was considered local matching in the aggregate from their perspective. So, I don't know. I I think maybe it's open interpretation. We could we can ask the the clerk to read the resolution again. Um it was really long resolution as you all remember um from that from that last meeting. But ultimately that $5 million project cost we submitted for the full project um the local commitment does not have to be tied to that project cost. That's that's your all's determination. If you want to support uh local allocations that make it completely whole. That's obviously within your purview. But ultimately um there there's also a scenario where this this obligation would would be satisfied the remainder by the developer. So um there's there's some some room for wiggle there. I can redistribute the um resolution for y'all to review and consider as we continue um budget conversations, but I did want to flag that I don't know that it reads exactly that way. that might have been you might say that's the intent, but I don't think it reads such that the council said they would meet the gap through local funds. Um, but I'll I'll redistribute that and that can help aid in the conversation.

Once again, I was just going to tell you that exactly based upon what I perceive to be is that up to 500,000 and I was going to uh put that into the budget for this upcoming year. Call for a second. Oh. Uh, motion motion is made. Okay. I'm sorry. Is there a second? Can is can there be a question at this point? Well, we got have a motion on it first. And we have a motion. We do have a second. We don't have a second, I don't think. So, if there's no second on it and it dies, I guess you can have a comment. I I have a comment. I don't want this to fail.

Okay. and nobody does. And so, you know, if the developer pulls out because the county only gives 500,000 and we only give 500,000 and there's a million dollar gap, you know, I I don't want it to fail. So, when we say that there's room for negotiation, does that mean we're going to go back to the developer and see if they'll do the gap or I I don't know where the negotiations take place. Maybe I'll never know. Well, I also I mentioned earlier, you know, this go in phases. So, if if if it if the $4 million is enough for them to get what they need to be get going on and then let's say if they get once they get their uh uh clients in there,

whatever money they make, they can expand more on that on their own. But this is just for the roads. Yes. You can't phase a road. Would you like me to read the the action that was on the resolution, please? Thank you.

Okay. I'm not going to read the whole resolution. I'm just going to do the end. Um, now therefore, be it resolved by the city of Georgetown that the city of Georgetown is hereby authorized to submit a Senate appropriations and revenue requests to the office of Kentucky State Senator Matt Nun for sponsorship to help fund the development of off-site public infrastructure improvements to Deliplane Road, Industry Road, and Anderson Road is required by the preliminary development plan for the legacy Run Commerce Park project. The estimated total project cost is $5 million with state funding requested in an amount up to $5 million with potential local matching funds from Scott County fiscal court subject to fiscal court approval and the city of Georgetown upon award of state funding if any from the Kentucky General Assembly. Any future matching funds must be approved by the Georgetown City Council pursuant to municipal order 14-006 and appropriated via future budget amendment. City council approval shall be required before the acceptance of state funds. Notwithstanding the foregoing, local matching funds, if any, approved by the Georgetown City Council shall be restricted to support the development of off-site improvements to the public roads and rideways owned and or maintained by the city of Georgetown.

Okay. So, like I said, that would just update information for you and like I said, we can talk more about that as that time come. All right. Next item number eight. Mayor, sorry. I can't. Okay, we're bringing Michael back in. Oh, good idea. All right. Next, um item 98 is uh council committee reports, finance. Hey, thank you, mayor. Mhm.

Uh we've got two uh to report on tonight. First is the special call finance committee meeting on April 13th, 2026. Um committee members, Mayor Bernie Jenkins and Council Member Ty Mitchell were present. U member Greg Hampton was not. Um others present were Devin Golden, Tracy Clark, and Trace C. The minutes from the uh April 2nd, 2026 meeting were approved. And the third item discussed was the 20 2627 budget work session overview. Uh finance director Clark provided an overview of each department's fis fiscal year budget uh request highlights both operating capital. Additional staffing has been requested by several departments. Uh this information um it was presented at the April 14th budget work session. Uh the meeting was adjourned at 9:43. The second uh report is for Monday, April 27th, 2026 at 8:00 a.m. at this is a special uh finance committee meeting. Um, everyone was present. Uh, the finance committee members as well as the mayor's staff. Uh, we approved the April 13, 2026 meetings, uh, special special meeting minutes. And, uh, fourth item, we discussed the budget amendment uh, review that will will be discussed a little bit later u in this meeting tonight. Uh, Stacy will review that. Um, the 2026 budget work session feedback. We discussed uh the uh any any kind of feedback we did get from the from the work session and the the fact that uh

the budget will be presented on May 11th. Is that right? May 11th. Um at that time the the council uh will have um the budget in hand. Uh the sixth item uh discussed was the investment proposal proposal discussion uh with um with the the 20 million uh that we have in CDs right now that has grown to a little over 22 million. So we'll be bringing that uh be looking at that uh going going forward. So um and the meeting was adjourned.

All right. Thank you. Uh public works mayor. I have not got the minutes yet. Devon just recently got them and she has not uh gone through them yet. So if we can pass that to next meeting, I will pass that and put that on uh the May 11th. Okay. And next we have fire.

That's me, mayor. Uh fire committee met April 23rd, 3 o'clock. Mayor Jenkins, uh, Council Person Michael Crisp, Council Person Willow Hamre, Attorney, Emily Butram, Grant Administrator Karen Leins, Fire Chief Seth Johnson, Assistant Fire Chief of Operations Cam Johnson, and Assistant Chief of Prevention Anne Willlet were present. Uh, I stand corrected. It's hard to take all of these minutes. This is a draft, so any corrections you have, Michael, just speak right up. Um on apparatus, the new fire truck is currently in Shelbyville uh for a couple of weeks getting final inspection. So the truck is ultimately going to be at station number two and replace the current ladder truck. Some improvements on this truck versus the other are a midmount controls rather than all at the rear of the truck. And the truck is shorter for a greater ease of mobility. And it now has cameras like a lot of cars have now. So that is a big safety feature. and it has rear steering um such that it will help on the tire wear and tear. Um there's going to be some kind of a christening ceremony, that's what I might call it, of sorts for the truck and some new engines sometime probably the end of May. And the good news is all frontline fire apparatus will soon be no older than seven months. Wow. That like that's kind of an amazing thing. Um, decisions now need to be made about what to do with truck one and truck two. Maybe give them to thing one and thing two. Sorry, that was a joke. Seriously, truck one could be sold. And with the money acred from that sale, you could do a soft refurbish of truck two. There's also an ancient of days engine 14 stored at the fire training center that still runs that might be able to be used as a prevention fire vehicle. if we could outfit some of the wording on the

sides of it and youngsters could climb into it and be used for demonstrations um on future fire safety days, etc. Staffing update. We are fully staffed fire stations. That's more good news. Uh that's including the three personnel hired for the future fire station number four. This is saving us money because we don't have to bill as much now for overtime. Uh we still need to have nine more firefighters in the future for fire station number four. I believe we said for fiscal year 2028. And we have hopes of receiving some percentage of a safer grant uh I believe in the spring of 2027 uh to help defay personnel costs for up to three years. It's also hoped that the fire department will be able to acquire a rescue truck. Is that correct? that would be able to pull our special deployment trailer and that would be about $200,000. But when deployed um which could be all over the state and maybe other places um it would be a billable asset and the state could reimburse for the use of that we could recoup some of the original costs at the training center. The training tower construction is beginning as well as the twotory staircase. Grant administrator Karen Levins was able to help us apply for up to a $100,000 grant from the Lowe's community grant to help refurbish uh fire station one which is needed. Um we're currently a finalist for that grant. You don't have a good word yet on it? No, we're still Okay. Uh cancer screenings are in the fourth year for current and retired firefighters. The cost for the current firefighter screening is paid for through city budget, but our local Georgetown Firefighter Cancer Foundation raised enough money to pay for the retired firefighters to be able to have cancer

screenings. We are also continuing our BCTC partnership um so that perhaps we can start teaching some classes there and it would be a good conduit for recruitment going forward. and the Junior Fire Academy was a success and we've actually hired three people now who are graduates of our Junior Fire Academy. Budget overview. An ATV purchase would be housed in the deployment trailer and be billable to the state when used as well. We're getting new exercise equipment at all three stations, which is greatly needed. And code enforcement right now is mostly concerning tall grasses and weeds. people are not necessarily taking care of their yard. And it's a reminder that if you have a big item, you can't just say, "I'm going to stick it at the end of my driveway." You have to call Republic and they will come pick it up for you. And if it's a mattress, it has to be wrapped. In general discussion, I'm getting a lot of calls about burning in the city. And we do have an ordinance that we can remind the public to go and reread that ordinance because it's very specific about what burning can or cannot be done in the city. We adjourned about 3:45.

Thank you. All right. Next item number nine. Uh first reading of the 2025 2026 budget amendment ordinance. Sponsors Greg Hampton.

Good evening. Uh, you received the budget amendment ordinance, supporting documents, and a memo explaining everything in your packet, but I will still walk through everything and our apologies. The exhibit that gets attached to the ordinance was left out of the packet. So, you've each been given a copy, and of course, that will be filed with the ordinance if it is approved the next meeting. Uh, beginning with our new budget request, new request for the budget. uh the general government. We had initially only budgeted about three months worth of rent at the GMWSS location for HR and finance. So as of right now, the additional 5,400 would get us through May. So we uh increased that line item. Uh it is a net zero, but it is an exhibit A. The moving PC replacement budget to the correct line item in the IT budget. Uh the IT budget was a new department and when we did that budget amendment ordinance uh back in February I believe uh the PC replacements accidentally got in the hardware software subscriptions line item instead of computer hardware software. So we're just moving that to the appropriate line item uh net zero effect. The fire department uh as they went over at the fire committee meeting they do have a little excess budget in some of their accounts. You can see vehicle maintenance, professional services, training, and travel. And they've requested to reallocate a portion of that to some equipment purchases. Uh Miss uh Hamrook mentioned the ATV that could be used, I think I don't know if you mentioned that, but it would can be used for the deployments for natural disasters uh both within Scott County and to the state. It would also be a billable asset for FEMA hours uh if that needs to be done. The next thing would be the fitness equipment uh at all three fire stations. That's I believe around $25,000. Uh that equipment is all over 20 years old. Uh we want to make sure that we're

meeting all of our safety requirements for our firefighters. They're working out with that. Both of those items were included in their fiscal year 27 budget request that were presented to you. So, if this amendment is approved, those will be removed from next year's budget request, and we'll take care of those with this excess money that they have in their budget right now. Uh, the third piece of equipment that they've requested is a fire extinguisher training prop. Uh, that's about 15,000. Additionally, uh, we are getting ready to go out to bid for the renovation of the station 3 basement. This is so that the EMS uh buggies and staff that are currently housed at station one can move into the basement of station three and then they would fire our fire department would be able to make station one their administrative headquarters and that's what we've been working towards. This is a step that needs to happen for that. Uh so our portion of that $65,000 renovation would also be funded by the excess budget overages and then the county uh has also allocated or will be allocating 32,500 for their portion since this is related uh to EMS. So that is the movement with the fire station for the new engine order. This is for fire station 4. Uh this is an item that it was in next year's budget request when presented to you. One of the things we've been talking about with Chief Johnson, the custom engine orders are down to about two years now, which is pretty much right in line with when we would need to open a new station. Uh keeping in line with our requests to have things budgeted before we issue any kind of purchase or service contracts, we're requesting to go ahead and add this to the budget amendment. And then what we would do is I would move this as a transfer to the capital projects fund so that that money is just sitting and waiting in the capital projects fund. Even though this isn't a project, it's a single piece of equipment that we've

earmarked the money. We've set it aside so that when it's delivered in two years, we've already taken care of that. It'll already be accounted for from our fund balance uh and we don't have to constantly move that uh in the general fund in future budgets. We'll put it in capital projects. The next items are for public works. The majority of these uh when we did our municipal order for the additional salt order, we kind of robbed Peter to pay Paul a little bit to get that order placed a little bit more quickly. So, we knew that we would need to replenish a little bit. So, for the buildings and improvements, equipment, the technical supplies, all of that is putting back money uh that we had to move out to make that salt order. And the reason we're putting the 15,000 back in equipment is so that he can go ahead and replace a mower for the expendable supplies, the 5,000 and the maintenance vehicles 10,000. Those are specific requests that he needs, not just related to the road saw purchase, but to have our blacktop and gravel for pothole repair. Now the winter is over. There's a lot of pothole repair to do. And then maintenance vehicles. he had some higher expenses throughout the winter for repairing salt plows and things that were damaged and just to have enough to get through the end of the year. Um the next thing I'll talk a little more about the transfer to storm water and capital projects when we get to those funds and for the previously approved transactions when we approved the updated contract with net gain we had already previously budgeted for the additional staff augmentation but between that budget amendment and you all approving the contract uh we had requested to add those essential security services for cyber security and other things citywide uh PD and 911 one previously had those services. So, this 21,000 is about three months of those expenses plus the $5,900 onetime fee for

setting those services up. The environmental services fund, you will see a reduction. I know it's counterintuitive, but the positive numbers on expenses are reductions. Our street sweeper came in under budget, so we had 49,776 in savings from that. So, we're reducing that line item and adding 30,000 that has been requested for the Royal Springs dredging. Uh, if this can be completed by June 30, this was also an item that was requested in next year's budget, but uh Eddie is working with GMWSS and the contractor to see if we can come to an agreement and get a quote where this could be done while they are already down there doing the work. So if we can get to a reasonable number uh to do this work, we would go ahead and try to get this done. While they're doing that, uh that difference of 19,776 is a reduction in what the general fund had to transfer to storm water. So it's a net reduction. Lastly, capital projects fund. Um due to the extended timeline, our previous budget amendment had covered construction administration services for city hall through February. This adds three more months through May. So, that is everything that's in the budget amendment for first reading tonight. Uh, if y'all have any questions, I'll answer them. If not, Tracy can read the ordinance.

All right. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. So, just a quick question on the fire side. Yes. Um, and kind of going off of Willow's report as well. So with our new apparatus uh transferring the 66,500 out of maintenance for our what what's the current maintenance status of any units that we would be using as a reserve or backup units? Are there any substantial maintenance items that those units will need since we've got new units to be able to

I know Seth gave me his notes. I'll let him come up and speak to anything additional, but in general, um, we did budget 300,000 this year for vehicle maintenance because we had spent 336,000 last year. We actually had some very specific engine and transmission replacements last year that cost anywhere from 25 to 75,000 per engine. So, that is what caused us to budget on the high side because we had so many high expenses last year and they had to keep coming back and asking for money. uh at this year currently we're just under 112,000 and we had budgeted 300, but I will let Seth speak to anything specific as far as that may be coming up on those older engines.

Yes. Thank you. Good evening, mayor. Good evening, council. I'm going to knock on wood, but a lot of the money that we've spent over the last couple of cycles is to keep our current apparatus uh fleet up to date, right? So now that we have a new stock engine that's in, a lot of the money was spent on engine two, engine one, engine three, truck one, truck two to keep these, uh, fleets up to par. Correct. Now that we have these new units coming, I feel like they're in great shape. Yes, they're older vehicles. We still got to keep them up to par. Uh, but I don't think we'll see those numbers relatively soon is my educated guess here. Preventive maintenance program and the preventive maintenance program as well. Correct.

Right. Right. So, how many of those units will we maintain as reserve or backup?

Okay, so we'll have uh we'll have two reserve engines because one of the reserve engines will move to uh become our new training apparatus. The old training apparatus, which is engine 14, Miss Hamber talked about, is a 1994 Pierce. That's so out of date with what we currently use, it's kind of pointless to use that vehicle to train new recruits. It's worth maybe about 14 $15,000 is what I was told. That's not pocket change, but I think in the grand scheme of things, we can reutilize that vehicle. I'd like to wrap it with a fire prevention message to use for community events, parades, anytime we go to the schools, put a QR code on the side. People can scan for smoke detector installs, things of that nature. So, that the current training truck, Engine 14, will become that uh prevention vehicle. We we will still have two uh ladder trucks in reserve. Uh my my plan for that is to sell current truck one and I'm still trying to get some numbers on that to realize how much we can get out of that and dump that money into like a soft refurbish of truck two to keep that. I think if we can spend a couple hundred,000 and get another maybe seven 10 years out of it as a backup unit, that would be I think a good use of the the funds. Okay.

Thank you. All right. Madame clerk. All right. If you read the um first reading, please.

An ordinance amending the annual budget ordinance for fiscal year July 1, 2025 through June 30, 2026. Summary. General fund. Prior year revenues are increased by $1,279,49656. Intergovernmental revenues are increased by $32,500. General government expenses are increased by $5,400. Information technology expenses are increased by $21,5156. Fire expenses are increased by 1,2232,500. Public work expenses are increased by $50,67. Transfers to other funds are increased by $1,974. Environmental services fund transfers from other funds are decreased by $19,776. Storm water expenses are decreased by $9,776. Capital project fund transfers from other funds are increased by $21,750. Capital expenses are increased by $21,750. All ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict with this ordinance are hereby repealed. This ordinance shall take effect after its passage of publication according to law. The full text of this ordinance is available for examination in the city clerk's office 629 North Broadway Georgetown Kentucky 40324 or at www.jortown ky.gov publicly introduced and read for the first time April 27th 2026.

All right. Thank you. Item number 10, planning and zoning and zoning ordinance. We just kept this place on there um you know u holding this here in case we need him. But I believe this is point that we sent you all some of the uh requests that uh you had asked for information from Hogan and uh Holden and his group to look at some of the specific questions that were asked by um Mr. Chris and so on and he addressed those and and and I also asked that if you give us any feedback. I have not received any feedback from anybody from this council and I don't know if anybody my staff have received anything. So the next thing is what is next uh steps. We can talk a little bit about you know having that information in your hand. What do you see our next step should be?

Tammy, correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't we wanting to form a larger committee at this point to um look holistically at the information that we now have gathered? I think that yeah like the public to be on it as well. I think that's what where we started and then we segueed maybe into the smaller yes and you probably need to talk about what would this committee consist of numbers and so on membership and so on. Yeah. But I think that's up to the council to think about and come back with

Yeah. So if you want so you so if you want to just everybody take a look at this come up with some ideas send me some information okay as to actually some ideas as to you know know the number of members how you want this to proceed and so on and get that back to me and then hopefully by the next council meeting on the 11th uh we'll have a little bit of a idea. Okay. So do we also need to provide some vision or focus to that group? Absolutely. Yes. So I I guess my question is how how do we Yeah. How do we develop that vision

to that group so that it is what we believe as a council needs to be part of the direction in ultimately changing our planning ordinance. Okay. And so do you think we need a work session just for that?

I I think that would be productive. That way we could have the conversation of out of those list. you know, what what things do we need to consider or not or or get them to focus on where we want more feedback uh from the general public uh and and the commission? Could I make a recommendation that we uh work through the budget first? Okay. Because I think, you know, that that might we have a whole lot of extra going on while we secure the budget and then if we really want to take a deep dive into this and start over with Holden's group now that we've had the segue off.

Um does that sound reasonable? May 11th, right? when the well when it be it will be sewn up by the end by June right end of June and then start start again start again does that sound reasonable to me I think in the meantime I mean as the mayor indicated it it wouldn't hurt for this council to to look at everything and send ideas and things for you know the establishment of a committee and possibly what their scope would be based on holdings holding's information that he's given us

and I think that will be very beneficial. So when we when we have this work session, you know, we already have it did some of the groundwork of say, okay, not just getting there and all start spinning our wheels, we already have some information that say, all right, so how do we set this up? You know, we're going to have nine members or whatever you have where you get it from and how you vote on all that. Yes, mayor, if I can make a recommendation. Sure. Um, from a legal perspective, you all still have six text amendments that are floating out there for some type of action. Um, and I know it's hard because we're layering and putting pieces together, but it would be beneficial to the planning commission as well as you all if you can take the time to look at those text amendments

and have some type of resolution. And if the resolution is no and you want to start fresh, but there are a lot of things that are covered in those proposed text amendments that may take care of a lot of these other issues. And it might be better. This is not legal, but it might be a better use of everyone's time if you're working off of whatever you all choose to do with those text amendments. and then you have a fresh zoning ordinance to work from instead of working on the zoning ordinance, having these text amendments floating out there and trying to reconcile them. So, if I can make a recommendation from a legal perspective, if you're going to spend time on it, it may be worth just carving out time to talk about those six text amendments because it's been a while

since um those were presented. Okay. Those are are they the same ones that you presented before we segueed off? Yeah, I believe so. They only presented the the one, but there was Yeah, there was only one that was presented and then there's been several that have been shared with you. Uh but no one has they've not been sponsored to be brought before you here formally for that conversation. Um so yes, that is correct. Thank you for that reminder. So we need to retreat back and just look at this first before we go on the next. I'm I'm not saying one way or another. It's just a recommendation to consider.

That's a good recommendation. So I I like that idea that we we look into this first. Uh so looking at those what holding the ball to us. Let's get in our mindset what those should be and then from there we can uh and move forward. Okay. So do I somebody want to make a motion with that? Here's what I would ask. I think that I'm trying to do what you're suggesting. The the text amendments that need to be dealt with if we could if they could be sent to us and we can talk about them at the next meeting. Okay. The big committee stuff.

Okay. But if there are things that are outstanding that and I do remember the the one before we divided into the smaller group. Um we let's deal with those Yeah. at the next meeting. Okay. And or at least start to deal with them. And so could is that am I asking for that correctly? You you you can make you just put it on agenda. You I just put on the put that on the agenda for next because it's on the agenda anyway with planning zoning zoning anyway.

I I'll be honest with you. Um I'm not exactly sure what we're supposed to be doing here. Um, we went one direction and then we went another and um I'm I'm not I don't think I'm alone in what we're supposed to be doing next. And I'm I'm sure that's frustrating for uh not just us but for planning and zoning. Okay. And so if we can knock a couple of things off and then have some suggestions about where we go from there, um that would be great. If I could interject on that, maybe at the next meeting, since you've got the budget, the next meeting is budget presentation. Yes.

U maybe we take just a couple of them at that meeting and not look at all six. Just take a couple of them at that meeting, the next meeting in May, take look at a couple. The first meeting in June, look at a couple. Then that will pretty much take care of them. Can we look at them? If we can look at them like that because I think we need understanding of what they are. Zoning issues, that's one thing doing on the committee. boy, zoning issues is complicated. They say it's simple, but to us it doesn't work with it every day. It's kind of complicated. So, if if that's a possibility, unless unless they're going to tell me that's not a possibility, but if we could do it that way and break it down, I think we'll be overloaded with the budget to do all of that in the next meeting.

Well, we're we're not on a time we're not on a time correct. So, the text amendments do not have like a deadline like your map a zone changes do. Um, so there's no deadline. There would just be some self-imposed. Okay. Okay. Well, let's just do if it's okay with taming, let's do a couple at the next meeting and then take a couple at the following and then a couple of following.

So, we already have this on there planning and zoning zoning. So, we're not doing anything else. Just at the next meeting, we know that we're going to be talking about that. And if again, feel free to send information that up to that point on the first two that we're looking at and comments and so on that you can get that to me. So when we have this discussion hopefully we can be more uh involved. All right. All right. Item number 11 GMWs. Item A uh consumer usage informationformational update.

Hi. Yes. Good evening. Um today we have the monthly usage report. So we'll go ahead and just jump right into that. So for the month of March, we did 122 leak checks. Just a reminder, this is checking for continuous flow at the meter. Um our leak checks only check for one type of water waste condition. There are other conditions that are undetectable through these. Um but we did have 36 leak dete leaks detected and then 86 that had a negative leak check. Of those, 75 were initiated by our customers and 47 were initiated by GMWSS. So, of the 75 that were initiated by customers, 22 had a continuous leak. And of the 47 that we initiated, 14 had a continuous leak. Um, for the month of March, we had 15,44 water customers. And the percentage, the ratio of the leak checks to customers this month is 8%.

What?

8% of our customer base had a leak check. This next slide is leak adjustment outcomes. So we had 41 leak adjustments submitted to us. Um this is kind of how we further track those investigative processes. And so we had three categories of formal um kind of in policy leak adjustments. So they were hid 19 were hidden underground behind walls. One was a shut off valve and one um it was noted that their hot water heater busted. And then the rest of them were actually courtesy adjustments. So, as a reminder, this is just any adjustment that they're requesting that's outside of our formal policy. So, we had one backflow pretor, one shower, nine toilets, one water heater issue, one dripping faucet, one outside hydrant, one water softener, and five unknowns. And pause there. Do we have any questions on those?

So, those are just where you're meeting them halfway, correct? Even though It's It's not a GMWSS problem. It's a consumer problem, but we're meeting them halfway at just to help them along back to normal. Correct. Okay. So, of the 41 leaks, are all of those now resolved? Did they stop them?

Yes. So the the the 41 um part of our leak adjustment policy is that their usage has to return to baseline. Later on in the presentation, I'll note that the 31 that we've also been investigating um we'll bring that like follow-ups back on them next time because we have to wait for their readings to come back in. And a limitation right now with our current technology is that we get that once a month. So it can kind of take a little bit of time.

Any other questions? Okay, moving on to the next slide. Um, residential usage categories. So, this just throws or shows the three previous months and kind of the distribution of our customer base. You'll see that the majority of our customers are right around that 2,000 to 5,000 usage category. Next slide. And then we just wanted to note kind of ongoing a actions related to um usage. So, we did send 30 of 31 letters. One of the accounts that was submitted to us is closed and did not leave a forwarding address. Um, I physically brought the letter with me tonight. If anyone wants to try and distribute that to him in another way, um, we're open to that. And then I also wanted to note that we found out today that one of the accounts that was noted as a leak was actually not a leak. So, they had a leak in their leak history, but the usage that they're currently concerned about was not related to that leak event. So, we are putting them back on our follow-up list and we'll continue to investigate with them. We spoke to that customer today. Um, like I said earlier, we're waiting on new readings to kind of follow up on the outstanding customers and we will bring that back to you once we get more updates. And then GMWSS board recommended action. So, our board took some actions at our last board meeting. um they voted to thirdparty test our meters that were submitted. So 26 of the 31 were actually GMWSS customers. So we are tracking down those meters. Some of them have been pulled already, some of them have not. So we're trying to find the meters that were in service during the concern and then we will get those third party meter tested just to kind of see what comes back from it. And then also we are pursuing a utility meter audit. So, we are requesting um a consultant to have a proposal. What that

would look like is that they come in and they physically pull the meter and they take it and they test it and then they give the results. So, we're kind of hands off on that process. Um part of that is that we want them to test a statist statistically significant amount of meters. Um so, we can kind of make sure that it's representative of our our entire system. We do have different meters out there. So, they would have to select of those different meters. Any questions on that? So, how many meters are statistically valid? That's something that we're hoping the consultant can help us with. I don't think we have

some general statistics looking back uh my engineering statistics book to get a 95% confidence interval for 15,000. She she just noted 15,400, but I'd rounded 15,500. That would mean pulling uh to get that 95% confidence interval 375 meters. We're going to hopefully find somebody that has experience in this and not just go with necessarily that very basic logic, but um based on different types of meters for different types of customers, look at what we need to um have them independently pull with kind of a chain of custody, if you will. Um we will be on site, but they will they will take the meter, they will do the test independent, and the results will be what they'll be. Um but look to having a consultant that can guide us on that. Uh I know that we uh had a conversation uh with board members about this and this this came from them as a uh directive to staff at our meeting last Tuesday. So um I don't know on the um timetable on that. We will be working on it directly. However, I don't have any idea of one how many meters we will have to include in the audit. um that's going to direct cost and the cost will be directed for methodology procurement and that's why I can't say we're going to have it done by this date but I do want to have an update for um our board at the next meeting on our progress essentially they'd like to have some prices uh by the next um board meeting and we want to at least have a ballpark of what the price will be methodology for procurement and who we're going to talk to we're talking to Kentucky Railwater Association we're going to talk to other utilities talk to the PSC. Uh we're not a regulated utility, but they do have um experience there. And then talk to uh engineers and meter vendors as well to get our our best hope

on um kind of how we can accurately do this and um get some results that are representative of our system. Mayor, if I could make a comment.

Yes. Um, I'd like to thank the board for listening to the public and taking some actions that um I think will be very beneficial to um the problems that some people are expressing they have. I think it's also significant that it is a small percentage of the 15,000 customers that we have, but yet we're paying attention to that and doing uh third party meter testing and um utility meter audit. So, thank you.

Uh you said it um thank the board specifically. We've had two of our board members here tonight. I think they want to um uh make sure that we're addressing this and so they're here to show support of that. This is again at their direction. Um giving us the nod. They want this done gives us good direction. Um clear expectations as staff and appreciate Commissioners Wolf and Commissioner uh Gibson for being here tonight to hear this. Thank you. All right. Um, I would like to say too, I really appreciate the fact that whatever we've asked you to do, you have done.

And, um, you know, um, I think that everybody up here and everybody that works at GMWSS, we all have the same goal. We want to serve our customers and we want to serve our constituents and we can be kind to one another and work through this. And and I would like to say, you know, I've listened as we've talked about this for the past several months and um I've heard you say over and over again, please, please make the first thing that a person does, if they tell you they have a problem, we can't start on it until they contact us. And I know that um we all want to make sure that our constituents are taken care of, but the best answer is have you called the water company? The sooner they do it, the sooner the problem will be taken care of. And when we get in the middle of it, a problem with five of the customers was that they weren't even Georgetown municipal water sewer customers. They were Kentucky American Water. And that could have been handled if they had called, they would have known that in two minutes. And instead, you know, I don't know what path they took, but eventually it got to Karen and Karen asked the question. And um, you know, it took a month and a half from this very first mention of it till the till it was reported back on because we had we're in the middle of it. And of course, if they're not getting the service that they expect, they should call us and tell us. But our first line should be, have you contacted the water company? Because that's that's how you can get the problem resolved while it's fresh. As soon as you get the first

bill, don't let it linger. And if they don't help you, come and tell us because we'll take care of that for you. But um I just I just want to say I think we all are after the same thing and I really do appreciate that. For me I haven't I never lost confidence because every time we ask you for something you brought it back at the next meeting and and I really appreciate that. So I I wanted to make sure that I said that because I know you haven't heard that a lot. Mayor, if I could uh to counterbalance Tammy's comment, actually, I got uh a couple more bills, a couple more water bills that I would like to send to you all and either if the council needs to vote on it to have you look at it or if you'll just look at them. But here's an email that I got. I won't mention her name or where she lives, but my name is such and such. I live at such and such in Georgetown. I have so many fluctuating bills and have never had a leak as they have tried to tell me. Some of these bills have been mind-blowing. When I have called for assistance, nobody is even willing to help me. True or not true, that's her sentiments and I do not know this lady. I got your email from Georgetown Water Complaints Group on Facebook. I'm attaching several my invoices for you to look at. Each time I was told there was a leak, but plumbers always said I did not have a leak and a month or later my bills would return to the lower rates. That's her her story is the essence of why I brought those to you all is for that reason. She felt like she did go there according to this email. She did go there first and she didn't get the help that she needed. So we had to make it very public and now people are starting to get the help you're needed. And Chase told me the other day he said it's a very small percentage and he is correct. It's a very small percentage of the people that are crying out for the water company but still it's a percentage. you all are a service

business. That's what we're involved in in service. So, it's become a big deal, but you're getting attention working on it. So, I would like to see I sent this over to Tracy today and I'd like for her to send it on to you all and let you all talk to this lady as well. But, they get a little push back whether it's whether they should shut or they shut down. I don't know. Or whether they do or they don't. I don't know. I'm taking her word for it. They get a push back and then it shuts them down. So, we become that avenue to go around to get you all to pay attention to it. So, um, so I'm going to send it on out and Tracy can send you a copy of it all. And, and just to be clear, if if they say they have already, that's not what I'm talking about. It's just whenever I get a first phone call, which rarely happens, um, the first thing to say is, "Have you done this?" And if they have, then of course you would you would ask for it to be taken care of. I would never advocate not to do that. But um the first line of defense is while it's fresh, let the experts see if they can help you. Mayor,

go ahead. Uh first of all, I'd like to thank the the board for their recommended actions. Um I think those are a good a good start. Um, and I would also like to encourage you, I know you have social media and everything, but with these actions, are you going to put that out there on your social media of what the board has has asked to do? I think that would be good for for your rateayers to hear that. Absolutely. So, that that's just my my my recommendation to you or my my thoughts to you. So y

and one other thing is you know we sometime forget there is a middle person called the board you know you can go to your board you know water board and express these issues too and of course they can take immediate action too if something's not done so keep that in mind too when we we're doing this process. All right. Go ahead. Um, just point out as we we kind of move from that point of the discussion, not that we're saying it's done, we will follow up on any that you send us.

Um, I feel like we these these first 31 feel like we've done a pretty good job. I know we've still got some outstanding things we need to do, but um feel like those have been given uh prompt and due attention, but also just pointing out that um our customer service looking into issues. doesn't start when somebody comes to you all. It doesn't start when they come to the board. I'm telling you, this is what they do all day every day and there's five people for um currently 15,400 customers. And as I've said many times with our current system, we're going to talk about later in the uh our part of the agenda is with the limitations there, there's a lot of brute force data analysis, there's only so many things they can get to. We like to be able to have better review of every single bill every single month. Absolutely. But um we get to the ones we can then the ones that come to you all we will certainly address. They come to the board. If they come to me uh any of any of the time that the council mayor sent sends something to me, we get it handled. Um and we'll continue to do so. So um do you want to tee up our next item or would you like what's

uh So the next item on the agenda is our collections video. So, kind of anformational update um about what they do in the day-to-day. I got to go out in the field with them and record all of the things that they do. It's very interesting. We're posting this on our website, social media, um things like that. So, we'll go ahead and let it play.

Our collections department is responsible for the wastewater system. This is the infrastructure that carries used water away from homes and businesses and delivers it to our treatment facilities. This team focuses on the collection and convey side of the system. They maintain the pipes, lift stations, and equipment that keep waste water moving safely and reliably. We maintain approximately 279 mi of sewer line. That includes both gravity sewer and force mains. We also maintain 5,891 manholes and 49 lift stations across our service area to ensure the system is monitored at all times. Team members participate in a 24-hour on call rotation. This runs 365 days a year. Lift stations move waste water where it needs to go. We operate a total of 49 lift stations. These include several types. Gorman Rup suction lift stations use pumps located above the wet well. These pull waste water up and move it through the system. Regional stations are larger stations with multiple pumps. They handle higher volumes of waste water and serve larger areas. Submersible stations have pumps located inside the wet well. These are fully submerged and are commonly used throughout the system to move waste water efficiently. Each station includes pumps, controls, alarms, and monitoring systems. This allows crews to respond quickly when needed. In addition to lift stations, the team maintains over 200 air release valves, also called ARVs. These are located along force mains. They release trapped air and help maintain proper flow and pressure. Each ARV requires routine inspection and annual maintenance. Lift station maintenance is a critical part of daily operations.

Over time, solids and debris build up inside the wet well. Crews use a vacuum truck to remove that material. This keeps stations operating efficiently. The collected material is transported to the treatment facility. It is then disposed of on the sludge pad where it can be handled safely. Another major focus is fog. This stands for fats, oils, and grease. Fog is one of the leading causes of sewer blockages. When grease enters the system, it cools and hardens inside pipes. Over time, it builds up and restricts flow. If not addressed, this can lead to blockages, backups, and overflows. To prevent this, crews perform routine line cleaning and maintenance. This is especially important in areas more prone to buildup. Another important tool used by the collections team is a camera truck. This equipment allows crews to inspect the inside of sewer lines without excavation. Using a specialized camera, crews can identify issues such as blockages, cracks, root intrusion, or pipe collapse. Camera inspections are also used during routine maintenance. This helps identify potential issues before they become failures. When issues are identified, crews perform what's called a point repair. This addresses a specific section of pipe that has failed. The process includes locating the issue, excavating the area, repairing or replacing the damaged section, testing the repair, and restoring the surface. Some infrastructure is located in areas that are not easily accessible. In those cases, crews may need to clear brush before work can begin. Safety is a critical part of all operations. Many structures, including

manholes, are classified as confined spaces. Work in these environments requires air monitoring, specialized equipment, and trained personnel. This ensures safe entry and operation. A large portion of the department's work is preventative maintenance. This includes cleaning sewer lines, inspecting infrastructure, maintaining lift stations, and addressing issues early to prevent larger failures. Much of this work is completed inhouse. This allows for quicker response times and consistent quality. The collections team also participates in community outreach. Staff attend local events to educate the public about the wastewater system and how everyday habits can impact it. This includes promoting proper disposal practices and helping residents understand what should and should not go down the drain. One of the most common issues we see is from so-called flushable wipes. Even though they are labeled as flushable, these wipes do not break down like toilet paper. They can build up in pipes, cause blockages, and contribute to pump station failures. For that reason, we recommend only flushing toilet paper and disposing of other items in the trash. Most of this work takes place out of sight, but it plays a critical role in protecting public health and the environment. The collections department works continuously to ensure waste water is conveyed safely and reliably through the system. questions on that.

Okay. Thank you. Thank you. So item next is going to be items uh C to I. And Chase, what I'm going to do with this is our collections. They're collect. Okay. Um so we're going to look at item C and I. You can just go ahead just tell us what they are. But mayor, before he gets started, one I do have one quick comment. I want to make sure that people know that we do have faith in the water company. Absolutely.

And that that they're working hard to to correct these things. You know, I don't think that there's someone that's sitting at the water company going up, it's this person this week, it's this. They're as much concerned about the issues as we are. It's just, you know, certain ways that they've got to do them. and and I'm tickled to death that they stepped up and uh are doing this uh water audit and and I think it's well worth it and uh just to give them kudos for stepping up and taking care of that.

All right, I just remind myself make sure that you talking you got your mics on. I didn't have my mic on it last time so I'm probably had some useless words out there or maybe inspirational words and nobody ever heard it. So there you go. Uh that being said, item C through I, uh Chase, if you will just go ahead and give us uh just what they are. And then what we'll do is we will then have one motion to accept all these. Okay.

Thank you, mayor. And let me just start off by saying I appreciate your time to watch a video um every few meetings uh that's that's not part of this, especially when you've got a long agenda because um they guys uh they are it's uh eight men. We've we've tried to hire some women there um they they don't uh haven't so far gone only one's gone for our sewer jobs but um or two but um those eight men along with our customer service staff really all our staff but I'm happy and when I watch that video my pride is just through the roof um those they're pros is all I can say they're professional and um you saw that gentleman being lowered down into a sewer manhole to clean that out. Um, it's a messy job. It takes a special dedicated person. Uh, that's why we think it's important and that's why we're doing this has kind of been part three. Uh, part one you all didn't see because, uh, Britney at our water treatment plant, she did that live. She didn't do a video and then you all saw distribution a few meetings ago. And we're going to be going through every part of the business, what we do, including customer service. And we're going to be bringing some information. We take these to the schools. Shows a lot of the good things. I know it's it's never fun to talk about the um the problem side, but uh we think it's equally important that we show you the good things that our staff are doing for this community as well. So, that said, I'll uh I'll jump in. Um we've got a handful of um purchase orders. They're not small, but they are um somewhat routine if if you've been through those. The first one being for Gibson Heating and Air. This is for $11,919. If you recall last May or I'm not sorry, last May of 2024, not not 2025, we had an evaluation of the HVAC system completed at our administration building. We have 15 individual residential style units that uh control the climate in our admin building. Had a mechanical engineer also uh in addition

to a condition assessment of those units, evaluated if it would be better to just have one centralized unit. Um that evaluation said no, stay with your individual units. it's going to be more cost effective. So 2024 we replaced nine of the 15 aging units and as of today part of our um building is very warm. It is uh unfortunately the part that Stacy uh is living in currently as well. Uh but that unit's gone out and we'd like to replace that. Uh it's a three-tonon unit. As you can see, we received quotes with Gibson being the lowest of the quote and uh the lowest of the ones that submitted quotes. Uh any questions on this first one? Second one, we have a purchase order for Lobo in the amount of $13,490. And this is for a new uh control panel screen at wastewater treatment plant number two. This is approved by TMMK. And this is the control interface for one of our aerators, the oxidation ditch. It's our primary treatment. Uh this will just upgrade and give us uh a better control screen moving forward. Um and this is um this is done through LOVO. They've already done some of the prior work and with the programming uh I believe that we didn't do quotes. We consider this professional services due to the the nature of the engineering work behind it. So we went directly to them uh as they've already completed some of the work. Uh the next purchase order is for QSI and that is in the amount of $18,973 and this is for replacement and upgrade of our security system at the admin building. QSI providing our lowest quote. Uh our current system it's over 10 years old. We can't get it upgraded anymore. So anytime we want to change something or something goes wrong, there's not a lot we can do at this point to fix it. It's time. Uh we've had a good system, but it's time for an

upgrade. So, that's what we're doing with uh with this purchase order. Next, we go back to wastewater treatment plant number two, and we're replacing a 15-year-old zeroturn mower. And um this is being purchased through the state bid contract. So, that is um that's uh $25,5019 for both the zeroturn and then the the pullbehind tractor. We do the our own um uh lawn maintenance there at plant 2. Um staying at plant two. Next slide. We have a purchase order for Wilson Painting. This effort has been a challenge. It's not the first time you've heard about this one either. Last October, we brought the board and the council a purchase order uh for pressure washing and some painting maintenance uh of different buildings at plant 2. We had water damage uh resulting before we redid the roof. And what we'd like to do now is go get it cleaned and um and painted so we we keep the moisture out. Um we originally bid that project. However, after we got the bid, got all the approvals, unfortunately, our contractor went silent and um then we got into winter when wouldn't be advantageous to do this work. So we went back out, got more quotes with Wilson Paint being the uh the lowest of the the quotes that we received. So, we'd like to get moving on this work now that we're getting some better weather. Next, uh purchase order is our monthly invoice on wastewater treatment plant number one, upgrade and expansion. That's for Judy Construction. This is pay application number 60 in the amount of $186,48946. This is for work completed in the month of March. Uh next slide. as um this is for best equipment company in the amount of $270,479.38

cents. As you saw in our video, sewer collections, we have a CCTV van and that is how we inspect um underground sewers. We put that robot in there. It's controlled from the van. There's that screen. Our current van is now a it is a 2014. Um, we're having trouble with software upgrades and the truck is in for service more than we can keep it on the road as uh our our board has pointed out on our monthly operations report. So, it is uh time for a new truck. And while this isn't in the current budget, we put away money anytime we get a specialized piece of equipment, we start the day it's delivered, we start putting away money for the next one. And we've been doing that. We have the money in the vehicle savings um to purchase this vehicle. Uh we're trying to do that before this current budget year ends. So it doesn't have to be a new line item next budget. And so this will be for a new van. It's a 2026 Ford all-wheel drive transit Sprinter. And it's outfitted uh everything except the computer and the software which is purchased separately. But we've been shopping for that as well so we can bring all this together before this end of this fiscal year. But um our old truck we will still use it as able as it's able. but also um Chris actually have some plans for that as uh helping us with public outreach that we can get that out. Um it doesn't have to be operated, but we can get it out for when we we take that to schools. Uh that's a big hit for us to be able to pull up and show um what the inside of a sewer pipe looks like and let uh let kids see that on the screen. So um it's time for that. We've been saving for that and second we we get it, we'll start saving for the next one as well. So that is uh and on that last note we uh the procurement for the truck is done through source well. So it's another uh pre-negotiated

uh bid price that uh is available. So um any questions on those items? I believe that was item C through item I. All right, you have heard the request. At this time I will entertain a motion. Motion motion made by Miss Ham, second by Miss Mitchell. Are there further question and or comment? All those in favor of the motion to accept these uh items uh signify by saying I. Those opposed say nay.

Item J, Jacobs Engineering Group Incorporated, 674, uh $695.

Okay, so this is something that's a little bit different. This is a new topic that I'm bringing to you. It's uh called advanced metering infrastructure, otherwise known as AMI. And it's very appropriate for what we started with related to customer usage issues. And we're going to talk about some of the limitations. I already mentioned why it's sometimes difficult to respond to some of these situations. But uh with this tonight, we're proposing a agreement with Jacob's Engineering for program management of uh an advanced metering uh infrastructure implementation at Georgetown Municipal. So, we can go right here to our agenda. Um with me is uh uh Joe Ball and Clay Bastik. They're both with Jacobs. Um advanced metering infrastructure or just metering infrastructure. That's all Joe Ball does. He's going to be given part of this presentation tonight. Walk you through this. It's all he does. He is a subject matter expert and um he can talk about this for for days and we have talked about that and we've tried to limit it to what you all need to know to make a as as with concise information to make a a decision on this tonight. Um but I'll kind of give you kind of what our current state is, how our current metering works, and I'm going to talk about its limitations because that's again that's part of the problem. Then uh Joe will come up and he's going to walk you through what AMI is and how it works and ultimately how it's going to benefit our staff and ultimately our customers. Uh he's going to walk you through the scope of work and the schedule that Jacobs has proposed to help us with this program and um and then we will be uh ready to take any of your questions. So uh also go through the costs and how we're budgeting this most importantly. So if we go to the next next slide um is how do we meter

currently and next slide please. So as I said um our current customer base for water uh drinking water is uh it pings based on how much account turnover we have by month between 15,400 and 16,000. Um so we're we're getting up there on water customers. I think we've gone over 16,000 maybe once and then it comes back down with some month- end uh customer turnover, but we currently have 16,29 uh meters within our water service network and that was as of uh February 16th. So, next slide. Our current meters, they are known as uh AMR or automated uh meter read uh meters. And this is pretty old technology. It's um the technology that replaced manual read. When you'd see uh utility staff walking around, they'd walk up and down every street, they'd pull the meter lid, they'd take a reading, write it down on their clipboard. And so uh when we switched and all utilities switched to AMR, it got us out of that business of walking those routes every every month. And so now we drive those routes much more time uh much more efficient. And um we have a preset route with the vehicle has a computer with a data recorder or collector. And the computer receives a signal from the meter uh a radio signal as it drives by the meter. When it gets close proximity to the meter, it's when it picks that up. And if they drive by and they don't get close enough, it doesn't ping on their screen. So they go back and get it. Um so we bring that meter back or that data collector back to the office. We download the data that's uh that's radio read from each meter and then that's processed for bills. So AMR it is accurate, it's proven, it's been used for a number of years. However, it has limitations and

the biggest uh kind of limitation that we experience especially dealing with these issues is we have one data point per meter per month. So if uh a problem starts right after that meter is read, whether it's usage, whether it's um a leak, whether it's um you know any number of things, a meter problem, uh we're not going to know about it till the next month and that exacerbates the problem, makes it worse because then we can get that high usage, that high usage event, and somebody opens their bill and it is shocking. We don't want that. But that is one of the issues with AMR style meters is uh data latency. You've got one data point per month and you don't have anything any really way to deal with it until you know next time and you can send somebody out. But that's really that's the biggest problem and that is um what is uh somewhat holding us back from in a more timely manner being able to um solve some of these problems that that we are seeing. So, well, we feel like the answer, the way to move forward is switching over to AMI, advanced metering infrastructure. And um that's kind of the fun part. So, from there, I'll turn it over to Joe. And he's, as I said, subject matter expert. He lives, eats, and breathes this. He's going to give you the overview, teach you about what I've been learning about the past two years, where I think we need to go as a utility.

Thanks, Chase. Good evening, everyone. As Chase mentioned, I'm a one truck pony. I do AMI advanced muting infrastructure. Um, so if we could go to the next slide, what I'd like to do is build on the slide that Chase talked about with AMR and just give you a very similar diagram and talk about what AMI is, advanced screening infrastructure. It's very similar. It's really the next generation of AMR, which radio technology, networking technology, and battery technology got better. We were able to start doing more with those uh inter with those radio units that are put on the meters. So in a new system, you'll have upgraded meters typically uh with more feature functionality and collecting more data. That radio uh transmitter will pull that information. It'll measure hourly consumption and then it pushes that information through a a wireless network, sometimes cellular, other times what we call proprietary network that a vendor will set up back to the data center um for that information to be collected. So it may measure every hour but it it transmits that data about every four to six time four to six times per day depending on the system that make that gives you the ability to get that information back through a secure network to the data center to the software that you can do a few different things in the AMI world. You would get that information back in the software and it immediately would get pushed to billing and then you go ahead and bill your customers and the only data point you really had was the amount of consumption from uh last month to this month. and then what the dollar amount was. Now when you move to an AMI world, you have all that uh interval data we call it. All that detailed data for the month is stored and then you could run reports on that. You could slice and dice that data, help manage the the operations more efficiently and also share that information with the community, the customers. Um that's kind of the the next step or the last step on this thing is the customer portal we call it. So again, the ability to not only uh use the information internally for GM for GMWSS, but also to share that information with your customers so they can go in and see that information uh

and really self-s serve if they wanted to in that customer portal. So I'll get a little bit on the next slide if you'd go to Well, I'll pause there. Any any questions on that from a technology perspective? Well, I have a question on that. Would that help then with where we're having our complaints from some of our consumers is that their bill is average next real high goes down low and they say there's no leak. Okay. So the can you almost go back and pinpoint the day that leak became out of control or whatever was going on?

I I always say they're great questions when I have a slide for it and I have a slide that'll show you just that in a couple slides. But yes, that detailed data will it because you have that hourly interval data, you'll be able to tell a lot more what's going on. And when the other benefit to just making your operations more efficient is the customer service reps have access to all that data. It the customers will have access through the portal, but if they have a high billing question, they can go back and they can see that usage on an hourly basis for the billing period. So we can really take a look and see how it at how it um uh how that behavior of that consumption affected the bill for that particular month.

So in like we're doing now it's taken a several months to get to get to an answer or try to get a solution. Even even the staff that's there can say oh I see on April the 27th for some reason you had this huge and maybe they were watering a yard and they forgot or something.

You got it. There's there's all sorts of things like that. I don't think people really understand like a water nerd like myself understands the little things that happen in your household how they affect your your bill and even they you may not a plumber may not even see the leak because of what the effect is in there. So it's it's really the data is really really helpful for the for the utility to help the customer try to identify where that issue is. And the nice part which I'll talk about I'll show those customer portal screens is the customers have the ability to register and sign up for alerts. So if there is a continuous leak flag that gets triggered, they they may get that alert on day four of the billing cycle and they can go ahead and address it then as opposed to waiting to win when the bills instead of having a bill shock.

You got it. So I sat that back there, you know, biting my tongue a little bit because I love to jump in and talk about all the great things that this technology helps with because there's one thing that the water utilities really lacked was leveraging this technology to be able to get more information to to serve the communities better. It's hard to do because this stuff's all underground and it's it it's they're not quick projects. These are 20-year projects, right? Okay. Well, I'm picking up what you're saying. So, okay. So, go ahead. Oh, yeah. What's been the feedback so far with these six communities uh that are using AMI? Is that in a future?

So, I I brought this up because Chase wanted me to show that, you know, there are other communities in and around uh the Georgetown area that are using this technology. It's not new AMI technology for water probably out 15 years. There's some systems that were out earlier, but 15 years is when we have some functionality that's similar to today. Um, and these the all these utilities I know Louisville Water because it was a Jacob's client and we we went through a 300 uh 300,000 meter uh program with them and managing their procurement effort and then managing the the program of the deployment with them. So, I know very well that they're getting a lot of great uh information from the system. They've changed their business process to be able to uh optimize and use the data from the field to make their truck rolls and their their operations much more efficient. And they've gotten positive feedback from the customer side because of things like leak notifications and just being able to see the data on on their usage. So that was just an example Chase asked me and I I think there's probably a few of these utilities that use the same technology but across the board they've used all the different major vendors that are out there. You know if you know anything about the water uh industry Badgerron Neptune uh Camstrip Census they're all the main providers that are out there that that have been doing this techn this technology for 50 60 75 100 years. So next slide please. So, that'll take me to really what GMW uh SS's objectives are, right? And right in the center there is really better customer service. You you guys heard it. Your your constituents come back and they come to you when they have questions about their bill. What they'll get, like I mentioned, is detailed data uh for them to use internally for their customer service reps. There'll be a customer portal that that uh customers can register for and they could get these notifications once they register for them. They could come via text message, email, and in some situations, they even have like a an IVR system, like a voice recorded system that lets them know to

go check their portal or they may have a potential leak. So, that gives them the ability to serve the customer better. Uh, and then go ahead and identify leaks quicker, gives them the ability to address it quicker. And to the point for the the leak adjustments that we're given, again, if you find that leak quicker, you get to fix it quicker. Then that leak adjustment when they meet them halfway is potentially lower for the customer. and then lower for for GMWSS as well, right? So, good good benefits there. And then the last one is utility operations in the in before everyone looked at AMR technology as really to help the utility operations. AMI is great because it does both. So all that data that we've been talking about for the customer gives the the utility the ability to get these different alerts and alarms that come back from the system. So they can understand what's going out in the field and do some data work from an analyst in the office. So when they roll a truck, it's not just to go in there and investigate to see what's going on and then potentially roll a second or a third truck. It's giving them data so they make sure when they roll that truck the first time, they have certain amount of equipment on that truck and skill set in that truck to be able to to to fix that on the first truck roll. And that really cuts down trucks driving around town and it cuts down the cost of of maintaining and operating your system. It gives them the ability to really prioritize based on the data that they're receiving within the field. Any questions on that side?

I have a question. Y I assume um just like we have a backup and the water company actually contacts people when they see that there's an overuse that's sudden. What would the backup be here for people that can't can't get on the portal or they're disabled or That's a great question. I mean there there definitely is folks that are are not as computer savvy. Um, so the backup to that is the the same way that they would do it today

using their customer service reps. Um, but the the the benefit here is you'll have the data much sooner than in the billing cycle. Right? So you as soon as you get that excessive uh usage or you get that leak alert that comes through and if they don't have access to the portal, they can go ahead and contact them through normal kind of customer service means. So yeah, go ahead, sir. Chase, great question. I was hoping somebody would bring that up. So, you know, if a customer is so inclined, you can get in, sign up for the portal, you can get in and and if you have a set point on where you want to be notified via text, email, um

whatever alert you prefer when you reach a c certain threshold, you can set that up. However, um as you said, somebody that's not as techsavvy, um that would have a harder time with that, we can still as a as a customer service department, we can set that up systemwide. So we know when there's an issue and we can set that threshold for residential customers. We can set that uh for commercial customers and then instead of us having to what we do currently is go through by the highest usage and just brute force going through each uh each account and seeing if there is something that's an anomaly. We're going to get the alerts um automatically through the portal. So we have access to the same thresholds and the same alerts uh that the customers will. Okay, great.

Got it. It's really it you still have reaction to the data in the field, but it's much more proactive because you're not doing it during that billing time frame. And that billing time frame, if you talk to the billing folks, it's a it's a crunch time, right? They go out and get a read and they need to get a bill out the door in a certain period of time. And that's when they're having to address all these issues. What we're doing is with this data constantly coming in, you're you're addressing the issues as they come up, not always at the end of the month during a billing cycle or at that monthly billing cycle. So, what I had next was the next slide, please, is just a couple examples of what a customer portal look like. Now, I know it's a little bit hard for you all to see, but I got a few things going on here. On the left side of the screen is like the dashboard that they made typically see, and the right side is just two examples of what hourly uh consumption looks like. So, I'll bring those hourly consumption up in a bigger slide, but this uh this portal here gives you the ability to show a few different pieces of information. This is from a client that we presented with at a few industry conferences. So, this their portal on the left typically will say, you know, hey, here's the bill that you have outstanding. This is how much the bill is, you know, and and buttons to click through to go ahead and do online bill pay, things like that. They they include their social media uh channel in here. They give you like what's called a water score. So you can they did can do some comparisons on how how your water usage is around same size households in the in the system as well if you want to encourage kind of uh more more uh conservative behavior. Um then it gives you the ability to see what your daily usage is per day and where you are. You could set yourself a water budget. Hey, if I have a budget on a monthly basis I want to spend, you could set that budget up and it could give you uh the uh not only the information on the dashboard, but also via text if you're starting to approach percentages of that budget. So, that's kind of a nice little tool again for the folks that are savvy with it. They want to get on the uh they want to get on the this the portal. Most of them will go in, they'll set it up, and then they'll

click alerts and then they kind of don't go in and look at it. They'll just get the alerts when they need it. Like, they only want to be notified when there's a problem. All right. So the ne if you could go to the next slide for me please. This is uh this is you asked a question about what does it look like? Can you tell when there's a leak in your in your on your um in your in your given consumption? Right. So this is just looking at a daily uh view 24-hour uh period of a day and the bars are showing consumption for those hours in that particular day. So it you notice in a majority of the households when you're sleeping at night, you should see zero consumption. That's how we really identify continuous flow. If there's some type of water usage going on throughout the night, in this particular example, you can see there's no water usage. You see at around uh 11:00 a.m., they must be uh late risers in that family there. They you start to see some water uh usage happening there. And then you'll see it, you know, towards the end of the day around dinner time when you get home from work or the kids are home from school and you start to prep dinner and do all the chores around the day. you'll see where your water consumption looks like. Now, if you go to the next slide, this is what a customer looks like that has a continuous leak. So, it's hard to see in these in the early hours in that 11 a.m. time frame. There's a tiny little blue bar in there, but what's overshadowing everything or which over which is going over everything is this orange bar which is showing just continuous water consumption throughout the whole day. So that's just showing the blue is when you're when the we would think it's the typical water usage and the the orange bar is just continuous flow that's happening in that that meaning the meter is always registering some type of water flow. So there's some type of continuous leak that's going on there. Really easy to see and alert goes out right away to the customer and to the utility so they know that it's happening. Right. This example here, you can't probably can't read them from here, but there's this for this particular day, 12,754

gallons were used and 10,416 of those gallons were associated with that continuous leak. So again, a lot of detail here and that's a massive leak that's happening, but that could be, you know, really uh anything that happen like a even a loose toilet that uh that continues to flow all day can give you a thousand a thousand gallon of leak for that particular day. So pretty big impact on someone's bill. So that's all I had there. Um any questions on that stuff? a question. How does this work? If you're a Kentucky American customer, Georgetown sewer, Kentucky American, how will that how will this work with that?

So, I'm not they if it's you're a Kentucky American, uh you will not see this type of data. They have their own system. Now, I hear they're looking at AMI as well, and I'm trying I'm trying to get in there and chat with those guys a little bit about about AMI also because again, that's all I do. Okay. Um, but they don't they don't have an AMI system right now. They use it a lot of AMR. In some of their in some of their locations, they may have like piloted areas where they get this much data, but they don't have an AMR an AMI system right now. Okay. It'll only work with purely Georgetown water. Yeah. Like drinking water customers. You got it. You got it.

I know your forte is water, but are other utilities uh like electric or gas experimenting with this too? So really the electricity utilities kind of led the way with AMI technology. Um they've been doing this for 20 plus years. Uh the thing that makes it a little bit easier for the electric utilities is the devices are powered. So the the electric meter has the communication device in there and that's all powered. So the thing that held water and gas back, gas is probably in the same uh kind of maturity level as water was battery. So all the devices out there are a 20-year battery for that for that communication. uh module that's out there bringing the information back. So it the battery technology wasn't so great on the AMR side. So that way that way you only got that one read a month. You didn't collect all the data. You didn't have a lot of alarms. Now we've gotten much better battery technology, much better networking technology and we could get the same the same features that like not all the same because they're real time. We're kind of near real time. You get that data the next day.

So and the water side. Great. Thank you.

Now the next uh next slide please. I'm gonna this is just a few of the results like so um some of the slides that I shared uh like the customer portal were from a a particular u project that we presented on in east side uh utility district in Tennessee the rural area of the Chattanooga area and so they they really got a they were looking to do uh an AMI system. We worked with them a few years ago. They were really looking to uh increase their customer service to be able to provide the data for their customers because they did have billing issues that were out there. They also had a lot of truck rolls for rereads and things like that. So that was a real driver for them to be able to move to a system to automate this feature, this uh function that the utility does every day and to be able to collect more data to run their utility but also share that with their customers. A lot of success there. They've improved their operations. They reduced their truck roll significantly and because of the customer portal, they've got much better uh kind of customer satisfaction scores in a lot of the surveys they're doing right now. The last little bullet there is around their non-revenue water stats. They had a very very old metering population. So they felt like as these mechanical meters get older, their accuracy deteriorates. So you record less water. They found that they were missing non-revenue water. So when they replace their metering population, they were able to ident they were able to reduce their what they call apparent loss, which is around metering accuracy and pick up some of that revenue and some of that water measurement that they were missing for in 20 plus year old meters. So that's really go ahead sorry

so quick question so in the other utilities that have applied this uh what's the amount of bandwidth that's being consumed does that create any issues uh with bandwidth cellular or whatever the system is for ongoing regular work

good question um so there's two types of networking technology I mentioned it briefly before you could set up a proprietary wireless network out there and What happens is information all the information the data is collected to a collector and then that's then used uh back hall uses cellular cellular typically to get it back to the data center or you could go direct from the uh that radio to the data center using cellular. Now the data packets are measured in in uh bytes, not megabytes, not gigabytes, bytes. It's tiny tiny tiny amounts of data. It doesn't even really, you know, show up on the blip of anyone's screen from a networking technology. There's small little data packets that get shipped in a very uh economic packet and even with all the security encryption around it, it's a tiny little piece of data. So it doesn't affect anything. And from a a bandwidth perspective, um, these the networks are made to have kind of high latency, meaning you're not going to get sub-second stuff. They're going to they'll send a message and it'll get through in a minute or so. So, it's a it's a different latency and that what that you have that higher latency. So, that gives you the ability to get that data packet through to the to the network. So,

which which is being which platform is being identified for here?

That's that's a great question. also because I have a slide for that. But that's part of our that's part of our task one that I'm going to talk to you guys about in a slide. So could I have the next slide, please? So that's what we're going to get into next one. And this is the scope that we have lined up. So we have kind of two halves to task one and task two. The task one is the is what we call kind of the upfront work. So, we're going to go in uh and work with the GMWSS team to evaluate their current system, identify, you know, which which meters are in the system that could stay, which should be replaced, you know, what is the the planning process look like, what does the IT integration look like. We'll share with them our knowledge of all the technology options that are out there, and we'll build a specification for an RFP document. Then, we'll support them through the RFP process. You know, supporting them through the advertisement question and answer. We'll evaluate all the uh proposals when they come in, facilitate a scoring session with them, uh do uh short list interviews and get them to selection, contract uh scope development, and then once we're done with that and notice to proceed, we'll then switch to deploying the solution, the task two side, whereas we'll run uh the program management for uh GMWSS. So really their folks will be involved in it and they'll have folk uh people in the different work streams but what we look for them to do is really to start uh redesigning with us their business process so they start to leverage the technology and really learning how to use the system and we typ the team that comes in from Jacobs uh takes care of dotting all the eyes and crossing the tees around deploying the the actual system G uh GMWSS doesn't really know have they don't need to know how to deploy it they really should spend the time uh learning how to leverage the technology and we take them through that uh throughout the deployment phase. So once the deployment is done and we get through system acceptance, they basically have been running the system for a period of time and they're experts with it. Any questions on that? That was really

fast and really high level. I have the next slide is where it breaks down uh some the subtask in each one of those and then parts of the budget. So because I can't see all the way over there um I'll turn around here. So basically the planning and procurement side of it is about seven we have about 3,600 hours uh worth of uh consultant time. We have a team of folks that come in with subject matter expertise in different areas. Uh the upfront side of it that that planning and procurement it's about 700 hours of that 3600. Um it's about $130,000 for that work. We do that over a few months period of time. Um so it's probably about six months from start to finish to where we can get a selection. Um and then after that we move into implementation support and there's about 2900 hours in there. We have the implementation kind of planned for about a 14 to a 16month uh implementation process. So the whole all in all with a little bit of timing here and there this is can be anywhere from 18 to 24month project to get the system um identified planned identified and then deployed.

Any questions on that stuff? Question. All right. So what you're doing, everything you're doing is really technology, not the actual meter itself. Correct. Okay. So is there a cost estimated guesstimated cost of what your job plus how much it's going to cost to put the meters in? These are all great questions when we have slides for them. So it's a slide coming up.

Usually I only get to use that once in a in a presentation. So any other question? Yes, we do have a breakdown of because when we come up with the cost here, Chase will kind of took about funding and then we could we have a breakdown of what the typical higher uh detailed line items in when what that cost breakdown is.

Got it. Um, next slide, please. This is the schedule. Um, this really very hard to read on a slide, but it it effectively um schedules out what we what we estimate the effort to be. uh from the task one and task two on the lower side, right? We have that upfront work. It's about six months worth of time and then the the implementation side of it is like I said it we just have a big a big uh blue bar through there because depending on the the pace that we we develop with the installer and uh GMWs we you know we get this thing done between you know like I said let's say 12 and 18 months in the deployment side of it. So, but the next slide I think is some of the details around the cost and I think Chase is going to take the first part and I'll uh follow up on the next slide.

Okay. So, right to your uh council member Tingle Sames right to your um question is is where do we get into the cost? Because with Jacob's contract for program management, we haven't bought the first piece of hardware. Um so this is for planning level to know how we kind of get this kicked off um get the procurement kicked off is is through what Jacob's their experience with other cities is we're probably looking at about $450 as a conservative approach for uh each location and what that includes with some flexibility that we have and some variability is that will include a new meter a communication module an AMI communication module and then essentially that location that meters um I'll just say that that share that breakdown of the uh networking and the software the customer portal. So that all comes in at about $450. However, we're not going to need a new meter at each location. Um you can you can get that communication module that's uh will work with any kind of meter. And so we'll go through and as we're going through all of our meters looking at our entire system. So we're going to have some where we need a new meter. We need the communication module. We're going to have some well we just put this meter in last year. So all we need is a communication module. We're going to get to some where it's not just the uh meter and the module. It's an old meter. It's an old tub. We've got to go in there and replace everything. Something uh Council Member Minky and I talked about. We don't really know that yet. But what we do know is we feel like at least the $450 kind of threshold will be an average across all of the sites. That's what we're using for budget. We feel like that's conservative. So, um, what we'll hope for is the sites where we only need the communication module. We save some money there. That's going to be a lower cost. But then we've got to do the tub, we've got to do the meter

and the communication module. That's where it gets more expensive. Um, so we've got to get in on that first part. um that task one and that's where we're going to do a lot of system evaluation to see what the different meters and we can have a better u idea of what we're going to be looking at when we get out and we're rolling in implementation. So um we just took that $450 per location, $16,000 locations, you're looking at $7.2 million from a planning standpoint in hardware. Um that's meters, modules, and and a portion. in each portion's location of the the software and the network. Um, so you factor in uh the program management consulting uh fee. Uh, so you're looking at about a 7.87.9 million investment in our water distribution network uh over the next few years. um that's no small number and and it has some sticker shock, but you also the next slide we're going to show you well if we did that same thing with just continuing what we're doing right now with AMR, you're you're really not um paying that whole seven or you're paying that 7.8, but you're also paying something as it is if we just stay status quo. We stay with what we're doing now. Joe's going to talk about that in a minute. So, I just didn't want you to have that sticker shock um that it's it's not just the 7.8. You have to you have to take out the fact that um we have these costs every year just for our AMI our AMR system as it is. So, um going to the right side of the uh slide, the funding sources. How are we going to pay for this? And if we if I get too far off path, Jeff is here. He's our our quantitative uh Georgetown municipal and uh he's going to come up here and correct me if I get anything wrong, but we have already uh annual meter

replacement budget within our distribution department is 147 per year. The last two years knowing that this was coming, we've tried not to touch that. Uh so right now we've got about 294,000 just uh sitting there from annual meter replacement. um that's that's sitting there in an account that we've tried not to touch. Then we get into again planning for this over the last two years. In addition to the annual meter replacement that's in almost or every budget, we've been putting away more uh six uh 600,000 over the last two years in anticipation of this roll out. I'll also point to the end of last year, we issued a bond for um wastewater treatment plant one. We also had some additional uh efforts in there. There was $3 million in bond proceeds that we planned for for this roll out. So that is already there. That's uh uh money that we have from the bond proceed and that that debt service on the bond inclusive of this 3 million is already factored into the rate structure into our ongoing budgets. So, we also for that remaining part we had um put together a funding request to try to get the rest of this funded. However, we were unsuccessful unfortunately. We've been very good with uh pursuit of funding, but on this one for that remaining uh $2.8 to 3 million, we we weren't successful with that uh that effort. So, what we're doing is just again through um through our savings, we're going to put back um the remainder of that into a restricted fund uh through our budgeting over the next two plus years. If um if we're not able to, we have to extend the implementation of this out further. Um that's just the nature of it. It won't happen overnight. I think even if we had the money, this isn't something that we could roll out just because um you're not going to get

16,000 communication modules in all at once. It's going to take time. So, um kind of our total on where we're saving and what we receive from bond proceeds, we're at seven just under $7.3 million and we feel like that's at least close enough that we kick this project off in the first phase getting us through procurement. That gets us from planning level number of $450 per unit to an actual bid number cost per unit. We'll know if maybe it's not $450 based on the fact that we've got uh a significant system and we're looking to invest in it. Maybe we get it for 400 or 375 per location. Could come in the other way that they end up being $550 per location. We at least need to take this next step and get to that procurement part. Um that's why we need Jacobs. We just we've never done this in house and and we need their expertise. That's why we've done the procurement, found the who we think is the best in the business uh to at least lead us through that first phase. Then we'll have hard numbers and we can decide at that time is this something we want to is this something we want to um move forward with. So we can go to the next slide. This is where I said you know it's important not just to look at that 7.87 million. You also have to look if we did a similar uh systemwide replacement of just AMR. This is where Joe's going to kind of walk you through this again. Um you're going to have a cost associated with that that we're going to have either way if we do nothing. So um really what you're looking at is the delta between those two numbers of additional cost to the uh utility. So I might have already stolen all your thunder there, but I'll let Joe walk you through that part.

I'll just add a little bit more detail to it. So what we tried to do here is we tried to break down that 450 into a little bit more detail. It's not there's if we wanted to go into the real detail, there's like 50 line items that you can go in in all these projects, but what we did was we broke it down into three different columns here. Uh the meter and miu. MIU is a an acronym for the radio module. There's a million different things we call it because we like our acronyms in this part of the industry. But that's the meter and the miu or the radio. Um, and then you have the network, which is what we tried to do is we slice up like what is the each customer's portion of the network if you're breaking this down into a few different things. Then the professional services from the vendor because they'll have a a project team that'll come in to manage their staff uh on this daily work. And then the replacement labor. So, that's the one thing that uh Chase, you left out in your explanation is also in that 450 is an installer that's going to remove the old meter and put the new meter in or just put the new communication module on, whichever needs to happen there. And then estimated for the meter replacement is $80. So, this is where you may have a savings because if you're just doing a communication module replacement, it's less money than the than the $80 that to change out a whole meter and put a new communication module on. That gets you to your 450 on the AMI program. And what we tend to do here is we gather a lot of this information in the task one side of this, but we put together an estimate because we do procurements all the time all around the US. So we have some information and we know price and we know the pricing for what is uh what Chase's AMR system is right now. So if you were to replace it with an AMR system, um you probably he'd spend about 250 for that meter and uh AMR module. He wouldn't have any network costs there because it's driveby. Um but you'd still have a vendor doing professional services. you still have replacement labor of that installer to go in and change that that the meter or the or the AMR unit out. Um that comes to about 370 per per customer. So when you do the math at the bottom um with uh with

either one of them, you have the an R fee inside there, you have 7.8 versus about 6.6 uh million there. So again, there is a price difference between the two, but again, that's where we start to prove all the benefits from the system with all the extra data that you receive and the way that you can serve the the customer base as well as operate the utility much more efficient. We do this little one on the right hand side, which is kind of no one's option, which is like, oh, what if the utility wanted to go ahead and install the system all by themselves? What would that cost? And you would take away a couple pieces of that, the vendor cost, but with the level of staff that you have, it would take them 20 years to do the replacement. And then in that point you're not it's not really an efficient model. So it's really not a very good comparison but we always take a look at it just in case to put the sanity check on it. Any any questions on that? Did that get did that answer the question on the breakdown?

Yes. Cool. Is there another slide or I think it's just a question slide.

So what is in your um council packet tonight? What we're asking for consideration is we would like to execute an indefinite services agreement with Jacob's Engineering and then task orders one and two. Um task order one does that upfront research gets us to bid. We don't start on if if the bids come in and they're completely unaffordable. We don't go into task order two. Um that's when we we've got to drop back and figure out a a different way. But um we feel like we've at least got to start at this point. Um, so we're asking for your consideration of task orders one and two and allowing us to enter into an engineering indefinite services agreement with Jacob's Engineering.

Thank you, Chase. Uh, you have heard the request. Do I have a a a motion? Motion. Motion made by Mr. Hampton. Do I have a second? Second. Second made by Mr. Minky. Are there further questions and or comments? Yes. you. Uh, Chase, real quick, what's the criteria of the meters that we have, uh, you know, at GMWs with various homeowners? Like, uh, typically, you know, for example, if they're if a homeowner's meter is 5 years old or less or 10 years old or less, will they be um, you know, compatible with the uh, transmitter systems?

That's part of the analysis that we'll do in the upfront side. So, we will try to leverage the assets, the newer metering assets that are out there. We'll look for compatibility. We'll look for age or or the the usage, the flow, the throughput that's been through the meter to see, you know, where that kind of accuracy level would be to keep or replace there. Because we're going to visit every property, there's a certain year uh that you you know that you would say, all right, if you're just going to go there and it's x years older, you were going to go ahead and replace that because it just pays to do that. Okay. In other communities, has there been an approximate year or kind of a cut off you've noticed uh at all?

Yeah, I mean, so there's a few different things. It depends on the uh the meter population and the compatibility that's out there, but typically we're anywhere between three and five years is where you would kind of keep that meter. And then if it's any five years or older or some some make decision three years and older then they replace it because of the uh just because of compatibility or the the uh desire to kind of um make a consistent meter population across their their whole system. Okay, that's very helpful. So there's there's options here for for uh GMWs and we'll look at all those and we'll we'll present those to to to the team when we're going through the planning phase. All right, thank you.

I have a question. Um it's a software and IT question. I mean lots of times things break down is are the costs for IT services and software updates etc. Is that all integrated into this so pro pricing schedule?

So part of part of what we do is we help manage and coordinate that IT integration effort. When we go ahead and select the solution it's going through deployment that pricing for IT integration will come back from the vendors. um all the software nowadays is software as a service. So effectively as you're continuing to subscribe to the software, you get that support continuous support for the software. So IT integration is a very important part of our of the projects because if you can't if you can measure in the field but you can't get the data back into the system and then through the areas that you want to use it in the utility, it's a fail for the project. So it's a big focus on us as IT integration and and Chase and team put that in the RFP to us. So we have to address it IT integration planning in the first phase and then the actual coordination of it during the deployment.

Okay. Also on that same note, a huge concern of mine, Jeff, uh I think you all know Sean, our IT director as well as our board is uh we get into this and we're 12 years in and then all of a sudden somebody as we've all gotten on all of our different technologies and softwares um they say we're not supporting this anymore, right? and then we're stuck with this investment that we've made. Um that is where Jacobs has to earn their money in development of our specification on uh service life of not only the hardware but the software as well and the support. Good.

It's it's one of the things we do and to be honest it's the vendors in this part of the industry have 20-year systems, right? So they they they know in order to to continue to to do business, they need to support their systems. And there's many of them that I named in those slides that that are supporting 20-year systems right now. So, Okay. Yes. Um, the prices that you for the hardware that you showed, does that include the service once we start using this program if we decide to adopt it? Like, you know, or do you have like a um recurring

fee? that kind of included what would be the capital cost. There is a software as a service cost that that happens. That's a like an ongoing maintenance cost, right? So once you're up and going, you'll have a recurring yearly typical it's an annual fee that you'll pay, but a lot they could break it down anyway. Sometimes they could fill it monthly, but typically it'll be an annual fee uh for the for the meters that are on the system. Do you do you have any idea what that is? Is it a great big number or is it a

uh it's typically you know so we we see pricing all over because we do you know smaller than you guys and then very large system so it all depends on volume but it could be you know a couple dollars a meter per year for the software. Okay just don't hold me to that because we'll get that we'll get those quotes we'll do a detailed look at it but that's that's typically what it would be something like that. So, and that would be that would be on top of what you're already presenting, but we would know that. You got it. When you make your recommendation, you got it. Okay. And what we would hope is that we offset that expense um by the fact that we don't have we're not rolling trucks to read meters every day, all day.

Absolutely. That's offset by the cost by the by the cost of an AMR system driving meter readers, things like that. Absolutely. Yep. Okay. Just a quick question. Yeah. The PO is for approximately 675,000. 130 of that is task one. Correct. And you said if we get to task one and the cost is just more than you can handle the the minimum going in is 130,000. Correct. So if if we if you deem it not to work this the rest of this PO will not be okay. That would be what what our maximum would be. Um or our Our minimum would be our minimum. Yeah. Um Okay. 13 task one.

Thank you. All right. Any other questions? All those in favor of this motion signify by saying I. I. I. Those opposed say nay. Thank you. Next uh item 12 finance municipal order closed central bank CD.

Good evening. Uh we have we discussed this item at the finance committee meeting this morning. We have solicited directly solicited proposals from some of our local financial institutions for additional investments. Um the city currently has 5 million invested with Stockyards Bank. Uh the finance committee, we talked this morning about investing anywhere from an additional five to nine million um in in those staggered longerterm maturities. Uh to do that, we need to close out the central bank CD. It just had a maturity on April 19th. We would hope to be bringing an investment proposal hopefully at the May 11th council meeting. So we don't want to let that get past another maturity date. Uh we would deposit this in at least temporarily into the money market account at central bank where it would still earn approximately 3% interest right now until council is able to approve additional investment proposals.

All right council, you have heard the request. At this time I will entertain a motion. Motion mayor. Motion made by Mr. Hampton. Do I have a second? Second made by Miss Mitchell. Are there further questions and no comments? All those in favor of this motion signify by saying I. Those opposed say nay. Thank you. Next we have item 13, police recovery support team update. Um, Officer Nevett. Good good evening.

Good evening everyone. Um, it's hot and it's late and I'm hungry. I know you guys probably are too. So I will try not to keep too much of your time. Um, so Officer Christopher and I are on the community recovery support team. Uh, we can go to the next slide. I'm used to having a button, so that's weird. One more. That's sort of a badge. We like it. Um, so we, uh, are grant funded. Uh, if you're not aware, um, and there's about five or five main aspects of our grant. The most important one that we believe or one of the most important is our ANG program. uh which is where we either identify individuals with substance use disorder or they are referred to our us to our unit or to the police department through our community partners, other patrol officers or just anyone who has a a family member or friend. Um so when we interact with this individual, we sit down, we have a conversation about what it is they need, what they're struggling with, and how we can help them. Um, so that could look like us just contacting a therapist for them and setting up that appointment, ensuring they go to it. It could be us getting them in contact with the detox center if they need to go to the hospital, or it could be that they go to long-term treatment, then we will transport that individual to the treatment facility as well. Um, we we utilize uh findhelpnow.org a lot. um if we're not also utilizing one of our community partners that we have great relationships with um when we talk to this individual, we want them to try and have as much of a say and the help that they're getting as possible because we've noticed and and I've got some numbers uh later on in the program or in the the presentation, but we've noticed that when we included them in the decision-m progress or process, um not only did participation increase significantly, but um their uh them staying in programs and getting help in maintaining their sobriety and their recovery for a longer period of time

increased as well. Um, next slide, please. We also participate in a drug court and mental health court here in Scott County. Um, they're very, very similar, so I kind of combine them on the same page, but um, anyone with criminal charges that stem from their addiction issues or their mental health issues can then request to be assessed to enter in drug court or mental health court. Um obviously drug court is for individuals who have more of a addiction issue. Mental health court is more for someone who has mental health issues. Um when our our role in this is is essentially just kind of program compliance, making sure that people are held accountable while they're in the program. Um we conduct curfew checks, we search for absconders, we transport individuals to treatment when they enter in the program for the first time. Um, we uh attend drug court staffing, mental health staffing, and the court hearings as well. We provide the law enforcement perspective. Um, and then really whatever else is kind of needed. I could probably spend the next hour and a half telling you everything they do, but again, it's late, it's hot, and I'm hungry, so I won't do that to you guys. Um, but whatever we can do to help out with these individuals, we do. A lot of what it is is just kind of having an interaction with them that's a lot different than a normal police person interaction. Um when we do our curfew checks or our home visits, um we kind of talk to them. We'll address anything that needs to be addressed. Like I said, there's an accountability aspect. So we get to have that fun hard conversation with them. Um but also we'll just kind of listen to them. If they want to complain about their case manager, if they want to complain about life, we just sit there and listen. Like I have no stock in that. So, yeah, life's hard. Everything's hard for everybody right now. So, um, and it gives us an opportunity to kind of have interactions with people who probably have more of a negative interaction with law enforcement. So, we get to change

their minds as well on what it is like to interact with the police. um mental health court. Uh we're a little bit even more softer-handed approach with that because while the individuals are getting stability through medication and treatment um until that is kind of achieved, they're probably not really aware of the decisions that they're making um due to their severe mental illnesses. So, we kind of uh take a little bit easier approach on them. um doesn't mean that they don't get held accountable. Um but we do kind of give them a little bit more grace instead of like if they run for the program, chances are they're not running because they've chosen to run, uh they're not trying to hide from accountability because they probably don't understand that they have to show up to court sometimes. Uh next slide, please. Um this is another big thing that we're really proud of is our post overdose response. Um, so it is whenever there's an overdose within our jurisdiction, uh, our unit with the health department. Um, the EMS, if you're aware of Brandon Rimley's position, is community paramedic. He comes out with us a lot primarily. Uh, and then there's even a member of the corer's office who comes, but we had to tell him to stop wearing his corer's office gear when he came out with us because everybody would freak out when we came to the door. So when someone has um experiences an overdose, we try and make contact within 24 to 72 hours uh at their house if we can. Um Corey and usually someone from the health department actually makes contact with them at the door. Um and then they provide a list of resources. They provide information about our angel program. They provide fentanyl test strips. And they're working currently on I think benzo test strips and what was the other one? I'm drawn to blank. Do you remember? It's late. It's hot. Like I said, we're struggling. Um, a few more test strips just so when we we understand that these people like you can't just tell them not to use drugs. They're going to use drugs. Our goal is to keep them alive long enough for us to

get them into treatment somewhere. Um, so it's kind of understanding meeting them halfway. So we provide the Narcan, we provide the test strips just so they can survive and then we have the conversation with them so that hopefully they reach out and ask for help and we can get them the help that they need. Um, Corey goes, if you don't know Corey, he is fantastic. He makes contact with them, he talks with them, and he is probably one of the best people I know, and he's also the most important person on our team in my opinion. He's not here, so he can't tell me not to say that. Um, through this unit or through this uh this this program as well, we uh kind of create an overdose fatality review. So, we re review any overdose fatalities that occur as well uh with the same team members um and we discuss basically what happened. Was this an individual that we had contact with? Who had contact with them? What did that look like? Was this someone that we could have helped? Was there did they fall through the cracks or obviously, as you know, with 75 and 64 cutting through our our jurisdiction, we do get a lot of people from out of state um and out of town. Um, so those are individuals we can't really interact with prior, but we did create um a nlloxxone distribution uh free box thing around the city. I'll let Jason talk about that. I think that's next next slide. Not yet. So when when it's his turn, he can kind of talk about it because it's very in-depth and it's it's there's a lot going on and it's been great. Um, if you're not familiar with Casey's Law, it is essentially anyone can file a Casey's Law petition on anyone, any friend or family member, uh, if they have an issue with SUD and they're refusing to get help, but this person understands that that person with SUD is going to kill themselves intentionally, unintentionally, they can file the petition. They go to court. They are assessed by a QMHP which is a qualifi qualified mental health professional and

a medical professional. So they undergo a psychological and a physical exam. Uh they will then provide their recommendation to the court. Be it this person would benefit from uh involuntary treatment. The judge then either orders it or doesn't order it. If they do order it, um it could be a 60-day order or a 360day order. Um Corey is one of like 10 experts in cases law in the state of Kentucky. Um so he always recommends the 360day order because that incl can include not just inpatient but outpatient IOP therapy sober living as well within that time frame. Um in the calendar year 2024 we had 58 inquiries for Casey's Law and in 2025 we only had 45 inquiries unfortunately. So there was a little bit of a dip. Um, we don't have the numbers for 2026 as of right now, so I can't provide that to you yet. Um, next slide, please. Uh, these are just some speaking events. Um, I don't like to brag on myself, but I'm here to brag on myself. So, or on our unit. Um, these are just some some places across the state that we've been asked to speak at about our unit and how successful we've been. Um, and we do discuss with other places about how to implement a similar year uh pl a similar unit in their jurisdiction as well. Um, Corey has spoke at Royal Springs Middle School and Scott County Middle School um multiple times. Um, he made sure to tell me to put in both a classes because he had to do all of them back to back. Um but we spoke at uh the KYSOS summit in Lrange which was for nurses and um uh pharmacies u pharmacists. Uh and then we also uh Corey spoke at Georgetown College here as well to a lot of uh college students about um addiction, Narcan, how to get help, Casey's law, stuff like that. Um Jason

went all the way to Washington DC and spoke at the Arcore conference. I don't remember what that stands for off the top of my head. I believe it's recovery something opioid response programs. Do you remember? Close. Sounds good. All right. Uh and then we will be speaking at the co-responder conference in Dallas of this year in June. Next slide, please.

All right. So, I'm going to stepside and let Jason talk about the Knox on distribution. All right. I gave guys a pamphlet. It's not completely updated all the stuff. This was something that Waco made up and I I get a little p I get a little into it because this is means a lot to my heart. Okay. Um my son uh has an issue with you know Mackey. Um it's been a struggle and the problem is with our luckily this community is one that's pretty good but the biggest struggle that we noticed around the nation is the stigma. Um we can go to a class or a presentation and teach and say okay I want everyone to put their head down. Nobody look around. If you know somebody that's got cancer raise their hand. you get about 60 65% raise their hand. If you have them do the same thing for SUD or alcoholism, usually about 95%. But it's completely different results if you if you let them keep their heads up. So that's the biggest thing with this with me is that because what we're doing with we're giving chances with these Narcan boxes for people. First of all, they're, you know, they're expensive. A box of Narcan, you go to the store, they're expensive. Secondly, you got the stigma of going to your pharmacist and saying, "Hey, I want this. I'm going to spend money. I want it. It's just for whoever." you're going to probably buy it for loved ones, but a lot of people are going to they're not going to go in there because of the stigma of I don't want them to think that's somebody in my family, which we all could probably say we know somebody that suffers from it. So, the the thing of it is we're getting it out there. So, um when I first started it was I was able to get through the news graphic um seven newspaper boxes. Checker flag was able to completely refurbish them, make them look pretty. Wedco helped me with some stickers and everything that this program as far as with Narcan boxes does not cost the city or the Scott County a single dime. Everything's through grants or ways of of gratitude and gifts. Okay, so that's always important because that's one of the first things that people are willing to say is, "Oh my god, why are you spending money on, you know, people like that?" But ultimately at the end of the day, they would feel horrible if they watched somebody sit and die in front of them. So, it's a matter of putting that resource out

there that they don't have to take the money out of. And secondly, uh, next slide. These are this is what we're at. Okay? These are our stations. This is we got 26 in Scott County now. Um, and I fight hard for those because a lot of businesses, I'm not going to lie, a lot of businesses, I mean, there's a couple that I talked to for an hour and after I got done, they finally said, "Man, you're a good salesman." I'm like, "No, I'm not a salesman. I'm I'm preaching the truth." And then they would end with well one of them I remember my wife's uh brother we're trying to get him into treatment. Okay. He you'd be the first one he'd think he'd want that in front of his business. Okay. Um people think okay this is going to draw people that use or this is going No. This is for these. I don't care who takes them. But the thing is they're getting them in people's hands out there. They're just going to the store just going to the gas station to fill up with gas and they're like oh it's free. Problem is there's that stigma right? Nobody wants to reach into something like that. Next slide. So, these are our boxes. So, that's our first one. Was able to get uh Wetco helped me. We got a grant and we've got I think 25 more and she ordered some more that we can get. So, if anybody knows any businesses that want to I work my butt off filling these. Brandon Rimley helps me. And it's it's a lot of process, but every one of them will always have five in there. I go down I go several times a week. um make sure they're filled. And you'd be surprised because uh next slide. So last year at this time from the 1st to the 4th and I messed up the number there, but that's supposed to be 42425. We had 152 by the 24th of the month. This year we're at 316 and Brandon and I haven't checked the boxes this week. So I guarantee there's another 40 at least that need to be out there. So, that neat little bag right there, that's what's in it. Nobody knows what it is. That thing

on there, uh, Kentucky help now, that's for anything. That's if you want help with electricity or you want help with that's resource page that is ran through the Kentucky government. People don't know what's in there. Okay? So, if you grab that little gift bag and you you put it in the cart before you go to in the store, you don't have that stigma. Okay? So, that to me is the way I was trying to break it down because I want people to grab it. I don't, you know, some people are like, "What if they steal them all out?" Well, I'm like, "Eventually, they're going to clean their car out or they're going to throw them out the window and somebody pick them up and they're in sealed packages and they're good and they can't hurt an infant. The only thing the only thing them are ever going to do is they're going to save a life. There's there's no negative results." Okay. So, that's that's the big thing. Okay. All right. Uh, next slide. The next big thing is, okay, our people going through drug court and mental health court. They really a lot of times those folks were at the worst time of their life. You know that their family doesn't really want much to do with them. They don't have children. They don't have relationships. Usually more people that suffer from the same disease that they do. That's that's who they hang out with. So, we thought it'd be a good activity. You know what? They they go in there automatically. They have to give at least 50 hours of community service. And they love it because they come in. We do it once a month, which we're getting through so many bags now that we're going to probably have to double it up. But they come in and they donate. And how many ever come? It's taken no longer than 35 minutes. 40 minutes was the last one. But we filled over 300 bags and they get two hours no matter what for for community service time because they showed up and they're there. And you'd be so surprised. You can see my arms even around one of them. the best time in the world, laughing, enjoying, and they feel like they are human again. And a couple of even said, you know what? I feel like I'm saving a life because I'm putting it out there in the community. And then just the other day, we had a training thing and one of them came up to me after that in court and said, "Yeah, I was at the the over by the

Goodwill there and you've got the box out in front of there." And we were able to save somebody's life because we could run out and grab that narc. So, it's a matter of making people that need to feel good when they're doing good decisions, but sometimes they have to fight a lot harder than us. I feel like that's a big contribution. So, my big thing is where I'm going with this is that like you guys as a city council, as a city, as members of the city, we want to thank you guys because without your support, we would be nothing. But I don't think you realize what dive you guys have made. When I went to Washington DC and spoke in front of those folks, they were blown away that our our community spur us the way they did. Other agencies and we've been to a lot of places and you know what, a lot of them have different methods like this, but it's not this. And the and a lot of they'll use firefighters. Love my firefighters, but we went to a PTAC conference and there's a 70% higher chance of somebody getting through sobriety if they have a good interaction with law enforcement. So, I think it's really important, but we couldn't do it without you guys. So, we just want you to know that we really do appreciate it because not all people are as lucky as we are to have people like you leading this. So, I give it back to Patrick. Next slide, please. Uh, so here are some numbers um to kind of show how successful we've been over the past few years. Um, it starts in 2020. Uh just for clarification where it says uh fatal OD that is Scott County Corner's office numbers ODCP are fatalities from that are logged by the office of drug control policy. Uh the difference is that Scott County Corner uh only counts fatalities that occurred within Scott County. The ODCP counts anyone with a Scott County residency. So even if they pass away at some other part of the state, it gets counted as ours. So, we had to kind of figure that out when we were looking at the numbers and why there was a

discrepancy, but that's that's what it is. So, we we kind try try and keep back track of both because with how close we are to Lexington, a lot of people will leave here, go there to use, and then unfortunately will pass away to an overdose. But obviously, if they lived here, then we can interact with them and try and prevent that in the future. Um, but if you'll see, we um for non-fatal overdoses in 2020, we were at 77. In 2021, that jumps up to 188. that is when fentanyl really kind of hit our jurisdiction. Um, in 2022, the number increases again to 193. And if you look at our angels, those are the individuals were able to help get into treatment. We had 10 in 2020, it dropped down to eight. In 21, it dropped down to just two in 2022. Um, next slide, please. And then in I can't read it back there. Sorry. Uh, in 2023, uh, the fatality numbers, they dropped a little bit. Um, and this is kind of when we first started uh our our unit. Um, I I can't really say that this was anything due to us. I think it just kind of the natural progression of it because it it cosponds with the rest of the state as well. Um, we still maintain about 152 non-fatal overdoses and we only had about nine angels. Um, and then when you look in 2024, um, the fatality numbers again unfortunately kind of stayed the same. Um but our non-fatality numbers dropped pretty significantly from 152 to 71. Um and we were able to get 48 individuals into treatment. We were able to connect 48 people. Um in 2025, uh the fatality number dropped to 10 according to the Scott County Corner's office. ODCP doesn't release their numbers until sometime in June, so we don't have that yet. Um then the non-fatal overdoses uh was only 55. Um, and we were able to at least match and get 48 more individuals into treatment. Um, which I think is fantastic. Um, and these numbers are confirmed through EMS as well. So, we look at their numbers and ours and these

are confirmed overdoses that we responded to. Um, this doesn't include overdoses that occurred where we responded to something else originally and then an overdose may have been occurring at the same time or anything like that. But uh so this calendar year up to about I think about a week ago um we've had one fatal overdose. We've had 17 non-fatal overdoses and we've been able to get 13 people into treatment. Um we're really proud of that. I think that's fantastic. Those are awesome numbers that is not replicated anywhere else in the state of Kentucky. Um, this is pretty unique to us and I think a lot of it has to do with our partnership with EMS, the health department, even the corner's office, and then our um, just push to get people as much as we can, much help as we can. Um, and as well as our guys on patrol. They've been reaching out a ton recently. Um, I got contacted twice today alone, about two individuals, so that we'll be following up with um, for the rest of the week. So, um, next slide, please. We like to end on this quote. This is a message that was sent to Corey on Facebook. Um, we keep this to kind of remind us that every number we look at is an individual and it's not just the people that we help, but it's far reaching into their families as well. Um, that's all we got.

I do want to say one just go ahead. Go ahead. I forgot to because this is the graph back here, like I said, it's not completely updated and this was not done by me. This was done by the health department, but it just it's it's a roundabout shows exactly when the naran boxes and we start distributing so much how the overdose rates went down and that. So, if like I said, if you guys know any businesses that are willing to join, please have them call us. Thank you all. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you for your work. Good news. You're doing good work. Yep. Appreciate you. Appreciate it.

All righty. We're now to item number 14. Council discussion. First of all, old business. You like any old business? All righty. New business. All right. Council comments. Item 15. All right. Uh, Miss Brent, I'm gonna start with you since I'm looking at you right now. Go ahead. I have nothing, sir. Thank you. All right. Mr. Hampton, I have nothing this week. Miss Mitchell, all good.

Last but not least, I got something.

Okay. Um, just for council's um knowledge, the traffic committee will be bringing uh an ordinance in the near very near future to uh to make the peninsula one side parking only. that would eliminate parking on the side where the fire hydrants are. This will help not only the police, fire, ambulance get through there, but also public works, garbage trucks, and mail delivery. So, be looking for that. Um, don't forget, uh, if you see any streets that you think need paving, get that to Eddie. Um, had a great time at the ribbon cutting at Boston Park today. It was uh a great event that it's and that park is looking tremendous over there. Also, uh if you get calls on potholes on state roads, more specifically US25, um I reached out to the mayor and uh Eddie today and the state are is aware of it. When they're going to do it, we don't know, but that's that's what I got.

All right. And matter of fact, Eddie, matter of fact, was calling today again. So, we'll keep pushing it. So, hopefully they'll get some results. Uh, Miss Ham, I'm in good shape for the shape I'm in.

That's good to know. Okay. Uh, Mr. Minky, uh, just a few items. Um, I think we we've been doing a good job of notifying the public on some of the blasting that's going out. I've seen several notices there for the Publix and for the lanes run, but I've been getting calls from folks in Mount Vernon and I'm not sure, you know, if are we having blasting in the Georgetown Commons area? I'm I'm not finding any notifications on that even on the state sites. So, I'm not sure who do we need to talk to about

regulates that. I think state regul on on that. De somebody can can you that's the department natural resources.

Okay. Yeah. But but I guess I I don't understand why we can communicate on some but we're not communicating on that one. So I don't know where the where the uh void or the gap is there. Um, the second item I have is uh because we've got the map public hearing coming up and and Todd your request about streets for paving. One of the things that I I've I've asked for before and I've talked with Eddie about a couple different times as well is a listing of all of our streets and when they were paved the last time and what kind of um usage factor that we put in there to know when we should be repaving those streets. uh because there should be a process, there should be a standard and and so as we are looking at what streets need to be paved, which ones are well past due, and I think that's one of the things that we ought to be looking at in determining that list for our MAP funds. And then the uh the last item that I had was um about code enforcement. I know we've got a lot of pro or a lot of issues, you know, where we have uh code enforcement actions in process. Uh and it's not just and I'm not talking about the grass. I'm I'm talking about buildings and properties that are are safety issues

uh and are in in process. You know, what are those? Where are they in the process? And what's the next step on those? um because I' I've been asking for that as well. Uh just so we've got some intent. I've seen a lot of the results of the actions that have been taken that have been fantastic in rehabbing a lot of properties and getting them back on the tax rules uh with new housing. Uh but you know what else is out there? Because there are some programs out there that if we have properties or we have access to properties because of condemnation and those kinds of things because of lack of uh action to maintain them safely that there are some programs out there that can help with u housing

uh especially when the locality has has control of properties. So I think that would be helpful as we continue this process of working on housing. That's it for me. Miss Sams, the other thing I had somebody reach out to me and ask about is to still paint. Yes, I let I will I will find out for you. We'll find out. Okay. Thank you. I'll find out. Thank you, Mayor. if you will put that down for him, madame clerk. Thank you. Uh, Mr. Crisp.

I'm good. Okay. Thank you. Well, if there's no other business brought before this council, we stand adjourned.