Senior Advisory Committee - Regular Meeting

Turn on your mic. It's on now.

Yeah.

OK. It's 11.03, so let's call the meeting to order. Let's start with the roll call.

Member Gobar.

Here. I just want to unmute.

Present. Member Hersel.

Present.

Member Nelson is not here yet. Member Blaylock. Present. Member Walcik.

Here.

Vice Chair Reese.

Present.

And Chair Kroll is not here at the moment.

Okay. And now it is time for the Pledge of Allegiance. Would you like to do that Katie?

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Okay we have some presentations Senate Bill 7 of 7 new Brown Act regulations and rules of procedure. Lucinda Williams is going to be helping us with that.

She is not here at the moment if we want to move to the department update we can do that.

Yeah we will come back to the first presentation but our second presentation is our parks and recreation department update which we'll move on to. Good morning committee members. Again Christian Hernandez parks and recreation manager. We have our supervisor Jacob Hodgson and Carla Madrigal who will be doing the presentation for you today. Thank you.

Hello good morning. So this is just our department updates or highlights I'm sorry for the remaining of 2026. So we have our downtown Fullerton farmers market community art sale and then the Fahrenheit live concerts that started.

Can you speak a little closer to the microphone.

That started last Friday. Some of the senior programs highlights for the month of May through July. We had our Spring Fling Social. This was through the senior club. They had a total of, I want to say, approximately 100 participants that came and showed up. They had a live band, a couple refreshments, and it was for the senior club members and also for any non-members. We did host a couple of Mother's Day celebrations. One of them it was kind of we had catering and light refreshments as well. And then every participant was able to do a small little bouquet for themselves. And then we had a live DJ. Morning trail hikes have been a bit of a success. We've had five to seven participants every Tuesday. This week we're on a break, but we'll start our new session next Tuesday. We did have our senior prom. I believe this is the third one we've had. And we crowned our prom king and queen. We had light refreshments as well. And then we had a DJ. And then our Korean dancers had performance as well. Another social from the senior club office, senior club, sorry. They had their 250th social, light refreshments as well, and also open for their members and non-members. And then.

All righty, good morning committee members. I'll be kind of, ending our August and then going into, or ending what we had in the end of July and the start of August and then I'll be going over what we're gonna be having upcoming in August and on. So this past Friday we ended our Golden Days summer camp. We had a total of 18 campers and it was really, really fun. Each day they got to travel the world without leaving Fullerton so it was really awesome. On Monday we took a trip to Hawaii where we had our campers do some lake crafting with some background music, light refreshments, small snacks, things like that. So it was really, really fun. Sent them home. Then Tuesday, we had another trip down to Mexico. We had tacos, again, light refreshments, some music. So it was a really, really good time. And then Wednesday was probably our longest trip because we went all the way to Paris. With that, we had one of our recreation coordinators, Amy, come down and she hosted a painting session with them. So they got to paint the Eiffel Tower. I think all 18 were beautifully painted. I don't think I could have did that myself. So we have some real skill within our senior community here. Then Thursday, we wanted to give them a little bit of a break, so we kept them in Fullerton. Our Fullerton Police Department was really, really happy to be a part of this, so a big thank you to them. They showed our seniors around the various the places inside the police department. So they went through like the jail cells, the behind the office, behind the scenes type of things that normal people really we couldn't see. And then they all took their mug shots. So we have the mug shots just in case, you know, hopefully we never need to use them, but we have them just in case. And then Friday we really wanted to end it on a bang. So we took them to Italy. And so that was a really, really fun time. We took them to Italy. They created the Leaning Tower of Pisa, so that was really nice. And then from there, we concluded our summer camp. So it was really fun. We're looking forward to hosting this again in the future. But yeah, it was a very, very big success. And then just two programs that we're going to be introducing starting next week. The first one will be Wednesday, August 19th, I believe it is. We'll be having, so previously we had once a month Loteria, which is very highly attended and a very successful program. So we're deciding to bring that every Wednesday. So every Wednesday in our ground hall C we'll be having Loteria. We'll have some, you know, we'll have some music on our AV screens. We'll have some light refreshments, light snacks, things like that. It's completely free. So if you guys, you know, during the hours of 1230 to 130 on Wednesday, if you guys have nothing to do, come join us for some Mexican bingo. And then also we will be introducing that same Thursday, the August, I believe it will be 19th. Every Thursday we'll be having our trivia, which will be in our boardroom. There's nothing that you need to bring. We have iPads for everybody. So if you were to want to come down to the boardroom and test your knowledge and trivia, we're going to have various topics throughout our sessions. So it should be a very fun time. Once again, this is free as well. And then just going over some of our older adult programs, August 12th, which is tomorrow, we'll be having Living with Arthritis from 10 to 11. A new group called American Mahjong Group every Tuesday. This will be a consistent program as well. Morning Trail Hikes, as Carla mentioned, we'll be having those kicking up again starting next week. So today we had a little bit of a break. Next week we'll be starting those again. And then Housing Options for Older Adults will be on August 20th. Less water, more growth. The Secrets to a Thriving Garden will be on August 26th, and then our Discover Fullerton on Foot will be August 15th. And then just some upcoming senior-focused events that we'll be having. September 11th, so a month from today, we'll be having our Grandparents Day Social. That will be at the Fullerton Community Center. We'll be collaborating with our library department to host this event. So if you guys don't have anything going on September 11th and you want to bring your family down, you guys are more than welcome to. We would love to extend the invite. September 24th, we'll be having our Senior Follies Talent Show through our Senior Club. October 22nd, we'll be having our Halloween bash social. And October 24th, we'll be having our health and wellness fair. So this was previously held in April, in the April months, and we're now transitioning this event to the October month. So that'll be very, very fun. One of our biggest events within the senior center or within the Fullerton Community Center. It'll be in the gymnasium and courtyard spaces. And then to lastly kick it off for the year, we have December 9th, we'll be having our holiday tea party. And then just here are some upcoming meetings for this coming year and into next year for your reference. So Tuesday, November 10th, we will be having a senior advisory committee along with the following one after that will be February 9th, 2027. And then that is our department update.

We are here for any questions.

I have a question. Going back to the older adults August programs, I'd like to know more about your housing options for older adults. What does that mean?

Not this way.

So for that one, we're going to have a guest speaker coming in. So it's going to be an outside agency coming in and presenting their housing options.

Okay. At any, I guess, whatever their income is. I mean, is this low income?

Yes.

It's for low income housing options.

So I can provide you with the flyer. I'd love that information.

That'd be great.

Just to advertise.

Thank you.

OK. Thank you. Let's see. Do we have anyone here that was going to be talking about Senate Bill 707, the new Brown Act regulations and rules of procedure? Great.

You guys are quick. I couldn't get across the hall before you were ready to move on to the next item. So I had to get you on the air first.

You are Lucinda Williams? Yes.

Good morning, I'm your city clerk. So we're going to talk a little bit. These guys heard it last night already. I always joke that I'm like HR for the committee. So please pay attention, even though my stuff's not as exciting as what they have to present. I will make it short and sweet, though. But I want to let you know some rules that the state put in place about how to conduct your business. Some of it became effective January. Some of it became effective July 1. They did this last year by adopting SB 707, which modernizes the Brown Act. And as I'm sure you all know, because we talk about it all the time, at least in my world we do, the Brown Act is the law That is the open meeting transparency law for all legislative bodies, which includes the senior committee. And we won't go through the whole Brown Act, but just a quick refresher in a nutshell. The Brown Act says that the business of the public has to be done in public. So you needed to do your deliberations on senior committee business up here at the dais with the noticed agenda with All the public here to come see you talk about it. I'm sure they're all watching at home. They just couldn't get here during the day. You have a riveted audience, I'm sure. Also, you have to have an agenda posted before every meeting, and the public has the opportunity to comment on any item before you take a vote on it. So that's kind of the Brown Act in a nutshell. The modernization part in SB 707, if someone will flip me to the next slide, please. takes some of the remote stuff and puts it into better language. As I mentioned, the Brown Act talks about the right of the public to participate. Meetings must be public. On the next slide, I'll note that your meetings have to have agendas, public comments. There are things called illegal meetings in the Brown Act. That's basically when any combination of your quorum of your committee discusses committee business outside of sitting up here at the dais. It could be a group of four of you in one place It could be two of you talking over here and then one of those two Talking to someone over here and then another one talking to one person over here Somehow there were four people or more involved in that conversation outside of being at the dais That's considered an illegal meeting the Brown Act. Don't be scared. The Brown Act is pretty easy to innocently not follow sometimes it's just people get enthusiastic and like to talk about their business but i'll let you know the rules and just be aware of them to make sure you're trying to do your business up here at the dais so 707 is a bill that accumulated um all of the hybrid meeting rules that came out since the pandemic you didn't live through that as a committee you weren't formed yet but during uh covid The bills and the laws were scrambling to try to figure out how to keep doing the business of the city but allow remote access because people didn't necessarily want to be congregating and sitting next to each other. At one point if you remember if you're watching the meetings all the seats were staggered so no one was sitting next to each other as every other chair up here for a while. We also managed to do some meetings over Zoom during COVID. And then the state made all these because they had to on the fly kind of laws to accommodate what was going on with COVID. Can you call in from home? Can you not call in from home? When can you call in from home? When do you have to put your address on the agenda? All that kind of stuff. There are all kinds of rules. And there are all kinds of bills and all over the place because they were kind of creating these as they needed. So this Senate Bill 707 puts all those in one place. and gives it a 2030 sunset because the current bill is actually all expired this year. So we're good with that. But on the next slide, what it also does, it expands public access. So we are fortunate in Fullerton that we kept our Zoom. I'm pointing over here because you guys heard me yesterday. All the equipment's over here. So if I say Zoom and I'm pointing over there, that's the computer we run it on. We've been on Zoom since COVID, and we never went away. Fullerton just wasn't going to let us do that, which is good because, one, just for public access, but also because the bill says now you have to have remote. So we are one of those lucky cities that wasn't scrambling with an eight-month notice to figure out where to find the money halfway through a budget year. and the tech and get your chambers all set up to do this. But some cities were in that position. So if you know any of those clerks give them a hug. They need it. We're fine there. The public's been able to participate remotely all the time. Again it modernizes all the teleconferencing rules for the folks at the dais to be able to potentially call in on Zoom makes it easier for you There is some language stuff in there about access to non-English speaking residents. Great concepts, but there is also a bill in the legislature right now that might wipe all this out. And it'll be an urgency bill, so it might go away any day now if it passes. And the talk up in Sacramento is the language access will come back in a different form maybe more comprehensive legislative cycle. So I'm not going to get too deep in the language stuff, because I haven't looked at what's going on on the legislature today. But by the time I tell you about it, it might be a moot point. But anyway, the bill might have passed. So I'll get back to you on that if it ends up being a thing. You might talk to some other cities or agencies that are like, what the heck are you talking about? This 707 thing, it doesn't apply to us. They might be right. There are, it's a whole clerk calculus kind of thing about who qualifies to have to follow these rules. We have enough population in Fullerton that we do have to follow the SB 707 rules. Some special districts, some smaller cities, smaller counties may not have to follow it yet, but they do have a deadline. I think it's next year. I didn't pay attention because I already have mine. And there are two kinds of groups that the bill talks about. It talks about city council, which they call an eligible legislative body, which is the hardest thing in the world for me to spit out, but I can get through it. And then on the next slide there are eligible subsidiary bodies Which is all of you the boards and commissions and committees that are formed by City Council. So There are more rules that apply at the council level, but there are some for you also On the next slide is a table. It talks about effective January 1st and new remote participation rules kicked in. I'm sure you're all actively on social media every day, liking posts all over the place. There was a pilot bill that said you have to be careful on social media if you're hopping on there and talking about business that becomes before your committee because even if a majority of you all gave a thumbs up to something, like you all love the senior taxi program, and then you got to discuss that on your next agenda, if you had already given it a thumbs up that you love it, in the eyes of this bill, you've already – had a legal meeting outside of discussing at the dais because you already tipped off how you feel about the items. So I love the intent. I don't know how you're going to go through every single thumbs up on a post to see if three of you have already done it before you're interested in it. But that's the law. So they do say that it also applies to comments things like that. So or just stay off social media and everybody's mental health might be a little better. So unless you watch cat videos I totally support cat videos. Um, And then effective July 1st the two way remote zoom access or remote access kicked in. We're fine with that. We are already way ahead of that curve that we have to adopt a new technology disruption policy which is you hand that out. I wasn't even paying attention that the policy. OK. I was. Yeah. That resolution I gave you we'll talk about that in a minute. It's embedded in there. And again that language piece I'm going to put on hold until we know which way it's going. So again, a little more detail just on the January 1st stuff. I'm sure you all remember the email I sent you with the Brown Act contained in it. If you don't, it's okay. I won't be offended. But we were obligated to give you all a link to the full text of the Brown Act for the law. Again, that social media stuff. It seemed like it was kind of common sense that you could do remote as an ADA accommodation. That wasn't... explicitly put in the law. So now it is that remote access is can be allowed for ADA accommodation and that includes for anybody at the dais. So if there's something that keeps you from being here in person because it's an ADA accommodation you can hop on remotely. Also thing we was kind of we thought was already kind of, you would just assume it, but they made it an explicit part of the bill is that there is a process in the Brown Act for kicking out the rowdy, you know, all this rowdy crowd here that shows up for your meetings. You have to give them a couple warnings and then they can be asked to leave the room. Now the process is explicitly also applies to people that are remote. So you give them a couple warnings and then Sierra will kick them out. So, and there's some stuff in there about department head compensation reporting at council meetings that doesn't apply to you, but if I can, I will go down a very deep well if you want to learn all the ins and outs of all the other stuff in here. Again, we talked about all of that remote stuff being unified. There are now, even under the old rules, there were only a number of times that you could call in remotely if you needed to. And sometimes it was under just cause. Sometimes it was under an emergency circumstance. They put all that in one bucket and increased the number. So if you need to participate remotely under you get sick for the day or something, you still want to participate, but you don't want to bring your cooties to the meeting, just give Sierra and I a call and we'll get you set up. You don't have to memorize all the processes because it's used so infrequently. But that's all consolidated now. Phase two on the next slide talks about The mandatory participation for the two-way access was Zoom. It was optional for the committees, but Fullerton is so used to having it now with all the committees that we just made it mandatory for everyone. There are some mandates how we put things on the web page. Again, this language stuff may or may not kick in, but we'll see how it goes. We may have to provide agenda translations into certain languages if this goes through. But we'll see. But what it means for you is that those remote participation rules, if you need to call in instead of show up in person, we can definitely talk you through your process and see if you qualify if you want to do that. There is also, for purely advisory bodies, which this group is, there is an opportunity for you to participate Adopt a motion that will say we would like to be fully remote if wanted if needed Where you don't have to notice it with your addresses. You don't have to give prior notice You can zoom in if that's something you're interested in we can bring it back for the formal discussion of that it also requires City Council to adopt a Ongoing resolution. I think it's every six months just to say yes you can still participate fully remotely if you want to and If you want to do fully remote, it doesn't mean you all have to be remote. It just means if some of you want to be remote, some of you want to come in person, it's already approved in advance so you don't have to do any special noticing or calling in or any of that just cause or emergency stuff if you decide you want to do it on the fly. So if that's something you want to do, let your staff know and we can agendize it. And then the other thing I gave you, and yes, I'm going through this quickly because I want to get you on to the more fun stuff for your meeting, but I gave you the updated rules of procedure for the board's commissions and committees. I left it in red line just so it's easier to see what's different. There's not a lot significant in here. There is one instance or a meeting where the chair and the vice chair didn't show up, and the committee wasn't sure how to decide who was going to run the meeting. So we just clarified that in that case, whoever's here will just vote to appoint someone to run the meeting for that meeting. A couple of updates for the 707 language, like the disruption things. And the major pieces, now that you are doing the two-way participation, is that the law also requires you have a technology disruption policy, which is all this, the big red part at the back of this document. It basically says if If Zoom is having issues and it's an us problem, not a user on their end that just doesn't know where to turn their microphone on in Zoom, that's a user problem. That's not a disruption. But if for some reason The computer isn't accessing Zoom, or our audio isn't going through the system so you can hear it in chambers, or the microphone sound isn't going out to the users. That's a problem. Then we have to call a recess. You'll need to have staff work to resolve the problem up to an hour. Hopefully it doesn't take that long, but the law says you have to wait at least an hour And document, the staff will document what steps were taken to resolve the issue. And if you can't get it back on, it's okay. You'll just have to vote to make a finding that the need to continue outweighs the need to allow remote participation. And then you can continue with your meeting. Only downside to that would be if your members are participating remotely. Again, this doesn't happen that often, but hopefully not at all. But if it does and your members are participating remotely and you no longer have a physical quorum in the chambers and you can't continue your meeting if they can't participate remotely. So technology is great, but just always be ready for that 10% of the time when it's not going to be so great and cause problems and just have a plan B and maybe a plan C if you need it. But those are your options if you'd like to do more remote attendance in the future.

Okay, so questions here.

Yeah, and I ran through that very quickly, so please let me know and I can clarify for you if anything.

Go ahead.

So there's not really, so four more people can't, gather privately or whatever. Nothing like that has changed.

If you're all at the same party and you're not discussing committee business, that's okay. Just know Fullerton is Fullerton and people pay attention to who's talking to who. If it's just four of you I always recommend or more of four or more have a fifth person there that's not on the committee just kind of in case it ever gets questioned they can say no they were they were talking about I don't know their grandkids or the Dodgers game or something like that. So there's or if there's four of you at the same event you don't all have to sit or stand together you can sort of mingle away from each other which will avoid any perception of that happening. So.

Does that mean then in our subcommittees that we can come together three people and actually work on issues.

Three of you can you can't have you just have to be careful if you're on any other subcommittees because at any time there's four people getting together in any context and this is going to come back to you then it then it's not a legal subcommittee.

I'm not sure I followed that. A, for instance, I'm on two committees. And, you know, in one we haven't met, and I think it was because we didn't know that – It was difficult about how to do that another one We met but there was only two out of three of us that met.

Okay, if you if I'll give you a kind of hypothetical so if you're one of your committees is three people and your other one is two people and You're on both and you and everybody shows up the both committees. I know it's a little complicated but Your three people would be three members of the committee. And then when you move over to your other committee with two people, you'll talk to a fourth person, even though it's indirectly, if that makes sense. So at some point, there are four of you all involved in a conversation. Even though you weren't in the room at the same time, you're sort of the hub. Because you have talked to three, and then you moved on to another committee and talked to another member. That involves four of you, which is a quorum.

Even if that other person isn't on a committee?

Are they a committee member?

Well, no, that's what I'm saying. It seems to me that we are limited to three meeting at any one time period for a committee.

Yes, and not only just any one time, but you can't have overlap in the committees where more than a quorum would be involved. In a conversation. Okay.

So two committees coming together if it if it would make a quorum, that's not okay.

Yeah. Let's say you put all the committees in one room. If it made more than four people and there's someone a hub that's on both committees that's sort of the connector to the two that would be that would be the legal meeting.

So it's really three or less.

Three or less. Yeah. And they overlap because otherwise. Okay. Yeah.

That part has not changed.

Yeah, that hasn't changed. It's still just as complicated as it was before for very good reasons. I mean, it's there for very good reasons. It makes it really hard to do business, but that's sort of the price we pay for transparency and democracy. So my coping mechanism has always been it's not efficient in real-world terms, so you just have to figure out how to be efficient within those rules and just know those are the rules and remind yourself they're there for good reasons.

OK, any other questions? I'm sure that we'll have them along the way.

Yeah, this is a lot to digest. So you know where to find me if you ever want to go down the Brown Act rabbit hole or anything else we do in our office. Great, thank you.

All right, thank you. Thank you. Well, now we're looking for public comments. Are there any online?

I have no one in Zoom with their hands raised, no. And no one in person.

OK. Yeah. I got that part. All right. We don't have any remote. OK. So I guess we go on to the committee reports.

Are there any committee reports? Good morning, committee members. Are you requesting from the committee members themselves?

I was checking first here but if you've got something to say please.

Vice chair Reese sorry I'm just going to jump in. We'll go through the matrix first. Highlight all the sections and then we'll bring it back to the committee for feedback. I believe there's updates from some committee members on further section their work plan.

Sorry.

No actually I apologize. I jumped ahead because we brought this up and looked at me but we still got to go through committee reports and consent calendar. So when we get to the new business item that's what we'll do. But I'll allow you I apologize committee reports then consent calendar. So glad it was you and not me.

OK. All right. So is so how many committees have met between the last time we met and now. Okay so we've got one.

So I apologize I'm jumping the committee report section here is there if there's any items that the committee members would like to share just general items not specific to the work plan the work plan is an agenda item that you can provide report at that time. So this is just general senior advisory committee reports like if you attended an event or anything. not specific to the work plan.

Yeah. Oh, you have something you want to share? Good. Thank you.

Thank you for that clarification. Yes, tonight Meals on Wheels Fullerton is having a fundraiser at the Old Spaghetti Factory. which we all know where that is, I think. And so Meals on Wheels Fullerton has been in service operations for 52 years, and it's a private nonprofit. And so we're having a fundraiser tonight, and I have flyers. So if anybody's interested, and you do need to show the flyer, so that Meals on Wheels does receive, I think they're giving us 15% of whatever is purchased. And you can take out as well. So get back, and we'll thank you for your support.

Any time frame?

Any time frame. I believe they close at 10 p.m. Yeah. So I'll hand these out. Ready? Great.

Anybody else want one?

Yeah. Okay. Great.

I might take one just so we can put it in the record. Okay. We can distribute it.

Absolutely. Thank you so much. And just for clarification, there is a difference between Meals on Wheels Orange County and Meals on Wheels Fullerton. Meals on Wheels Orange County provides the congregate meals that is at the senior center.

So this is a total separate.

We are homebound seniors only in Fullerton.

Sorry.

Thank you.

Thank you. I think we're next on that one. All right. Oh, let's see. We do. We do. Now? OK. Katie, would you like to do that since I'm doing this?

All right. The report that we have, we were selected or we volunteered to look into ways where we could promote to the community the things that were happening for the members of the community. And so we've done various things. going into Mobile Home Parks with their permission, for example, and putting up calendars from the newsletter, just the calendars, to show them what's happening at the community center. And we have been, or I have been, attending different events, and I did attend the event OLLI, and the flyers for the open house for OLLI, which is called a Lifelong Learning Institute. And it is for curious-minded adults 50 and older. By attending that, I learned some things. But also what I did was to let people know what's happening is with the permission of the community center, I did put flyers out in our library in our office and where they said I could put them. Then another thing that we did as a committee, just two, We reached out to the Fullerton Observer and they were very happy to put an article in the Fullerton Observer for August. And the title is a great place to stay active the Fullerton Community Center. And with that it talked about many many things that the center has to offer including things that the senior club has to offer. the basically the opening statement is to catch people's attention so that they will be aware of what we have and we talked about retirement is a seductive concept like walking through a beautiful forest that is until we reach the end of our working lives and realize we have to create a whole new life and the community center will do this for people it says luckily our center has

Options and it lists some of the options so we tried to reach out to people that way also Okay, all right and we do have copies Of the article for the other committee members and for any of you that would like it as well as copies of the whole paper and or someone, if you'd prefer that. But I made copies of the entire article, which is pretty much a half a page. So I think we felt quite accomplished that we got this into the public view this way. And they're seeing that seniors are doing their thing here in Fullerton. And the OLLI open house, of which I was a part because I'm also an OLLI member, went very well. We had a huge number of people coming to explore another really great senior program. So we've got some very, very good things going on in Fullerton that way.

We also at Meals on Wheels Fullerton distributed the calendar. It was brought to us. And so we got that out to all. I think we have right now about 75 clients. So the newsletter on what's going on in the senior center. So we're distributing as well.

And Katie did some very good work. Okay. Let's see. Does that mean we are moving on. I need coaching.

So we can go through each committee member if there's anybody else that wants to provide an update on any anything they've done through the work plan that they can do that this time.

Okay, I will. So this is for the focus area to strengthen access to essential resources. And committee member Blalock reached out to me, and we are going to get together. But I also spoke with member Goldberg Katie and after our last meeting and There's a group that I am a member of the North Orange County County senior collaborative And we put out a senior resource guide. That is excellent. There's no Advertisements in here. Nobody pays to be in it it's just an excellent guide and I'm going to provide that to the senior center and to Katie's group there. I have a box in my car. So, and I'll share one with you too. Awesome. Right. Okay.

Anyone else.

There is an update. Vice Chair Reese from IDO Chair Krul is not here. But what you did he did provide an update. He shared that Chair Krul shared he attended an event with the Boys and Girls Club of Buena Park in an effort to build intergenerational relationships through the Salomon Staircage Lodge number 357. So I did want to share that on his behalf that there was an update there as well. I believe that's the only update he shared.

Okay. Any other comments?

All right. So sorry just to wrap up that item again if you if any of the committee members need any assistance and any communication or resources staff both Carla and Jacob are here to assist. So feel feel free to reach out to them or even if it's a venue to meet to further discuss or have them in assistance to provide support. They're happy to help. And with that we did skip over the consent calendar which was item right before that. So we just we just need to review make a motion and approve the consent calendar and.

Yes. While while we're still on item 2 real fast. Vice chair if you'd like you can receive and file the report or we can take a vote to receive and file.

I can hear part of what you're saying. I'm sorry.

It's OK. Item two, the report for the ad hoc work plan, it's just a receive and file. So you have authority to receive and file by acclamation, or we can take a full vote of everyone if they want to receive and file.

OK.

But it's just a receive and file.

Okay. All right. I think that we're going to receive the file. Perfect.

And we can go to consent now if you'd like. Thanks, guys.

All right. Now we go on. Okay. Actually, if we've done all the ad hoc committees, Then we are at a point of adjournment.

No.

We need to go back to consent calendar. It's the item right above. I'm sorry. No. Yes.

And we do.

Yes.

That's what we do need a motion to approve.

Yes. OK. All right. Do I have a motion to approve the consent calendar.

I'll make a motion.

A second. So we have a motion. I'll second it. OK.

Perfect. Okay. Member Gobar.

Yes.

Member Herzl.

Yes.

Member Nelson. Yes. Member Blaylock.

Yes.

Member Walsick.

Yes.

And Vice Chair Reese.

Yes.

And then Chair Kroll is absent.

OK. Now we're at the end of the agenda, since I've been jumping to the end here. So we are ready to adjourn. So we need a motion to adjourn, correct? No? OK. We are adjourned. Thank you.