Town Council - Regular Meeting

to the town of Kansas meeting of the town council for November 24th, 2025. If you'll please stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation with all.

Thank you. We have a few announcements. At the previous town council meeting on November the 10th, town council entered into an executive session regarding a legal and personnel matter. The meeting concluded at 9:50 p.m. Winterfest will take place on December 6th from 3:00 to 7:00 p.m. here in town hall. Please join us for an evening of fun. Town hall will be closed on Thursday, November 27th and Friday, November 28th for Thanksgiving. The town would like to wish everyone a safe, happy, and blessed holiday weekend. Now, we'll do the public hearing regarding the proposed 2026 budget.

Mr. Coral. Yeah. Thank you. Um, at this time, we'll call to order the public hearing on the proposed 2026 town of McCandless budget. Any members of the public that wish to uh make a comment can approach the podium. State your name and address and away. Any takers? Any takers is right.

Hello, Ellen. Right. Um I had a um couple questions. I I wish there were page numbers on the budget proposal. it's sort of difficult to refer to different things without page numbers and when it's passed it will be it would be helpful through a page numbers so that um especially the capital improvement budget to make sure there are numbers with that um the I was kind of disappointed last week that there weren't very many questions about the budget because I understood Mr. Singer to from the council members. I understood Mr. Singer to say that the budget had been presented individually to council members and that this was kind of the opportunity for council to have questions during last time council's meeting and there weren't very many questions. Um I'm still searching for where the legal and engineering fees are in each of the budget numbers. So, I'm looking here at town council budget 400. And then under other services, it says 310 professional services. Is that legal? Then I look at four 406 uh citizen information, public safety, and 310 professional services. What does that incorporate? Is that the solicitor for the personnel board? Um, general, oh, the tax collection professional services. Um, I wish there was more information about why we're why we're going to outsource the local. Uh, I know we already used for something, but maybe the real estate taxes, why that's being out. A little

more information about that. So, let's see. Now, I'm going to look at 402 financial administration and there professional services listed there. Is that the auditor? It's not very clear what professional services professional services um line 310 and I'm not sure what that refers to. And somewhere there was talking about the engineering fees and I'm not sure where I would look to find those. Are they under professional services under public works? Um so I'm not sure where those are.

Okay. So that's it. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Any other takers? Seeing none any uh additions from council. There's no changes from the last time that we spoke. Is that correct? I had none. Any changes for you? No. Trish. Done. We're all good. That's the case, then I will uh adjourn the public hearing on the 2026 proposed budget.

Thank you, Mr. Purple. Okay, now it's public comment on agenda items only. last time you were chairman. So um the question the grants that are in the um in the budget uh there's no supporting documentation for the um I think it's the LSG grants have to look real quickly just the resolution page you know let's see LSA resolutions there's there's no documentation as to how that money is going to be used a million dollars for lights um seems like a lot. And you know, even though it's grant money, you know, maybe we want to use the grant money for something else. Uh the bird program sounds pretty wonderful and are and not having any documentation. I mean the comprehensive plan that we're supposed to be transparent and not having any documentation for all of the LSA things and just having a final resolution page. There's no information there. Okay. Thank you for your comments.

Any other public comment? D Harrison McKenna um and all these grant money that's it's being um put out tonight or we're getting from different places. Could you guys go into more detail tonight before you go and vote on this and just is exactly what I mean? Million dollars is a lot of money for lights. We go into what that is going to cover. The dry storage for the uh the vehicles. We go into what that is. Is that just a garage? Is it a, you know, having stuff on here and having no details beside it and not having any links to anything of what we're planning on spending this money on? I mean, you go through these and you're at uh two, I don't know, $2 and a half million dollars. That's a lot of money. And as taxpayers, we'd like to know what we're spending this money on before we actually go and vote on it. I know it's grant money, but that's still tax dollars that are coming from someplace. Somebody decided to um apply for those and it's greatly appreciated that we're able to get those monies. But can we go into a little bit more detail as far as what we plan on spending this money on other than just saying million dollars for lights? I can buy a hell of a lot of lights for a million dollars. So, you guys can go into more detail before you vote on it. I'd be greatly appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you.

If we want to go through it at the time when we get to that part in new business, I'd be happy to answer any questions anybody has. Thank you. Any other comment? Okay, let's move along. Approval of the minutes. Mr. J, I make a motion to approve the minutes as presented council. You have a second. Second. Thank you. All in favor? I abstain. Administration and finance reports.

Good evening, council. Enclosed in your packet, you will find the checklisting from October 2025 in the amount of 1,900,62855. If you have any questions on the checklisting, I'd be happy to answer them. Any questions? A motion.

A motion. Motion to approve the checklisting number 10 dated October 1, 2025 to October 31, 2025 totaling 1,900,62855 as submitted to each member of council and posted on the bulletin board and town website. Thank you, Don. Do we have a second? Second. Thank you, Miss Clooney. All in favor? I Okay. Communications report.

Communication reports in the packet. If you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer them. Okay. Thank you. Junior Councilman's report for the month of November. Christian Uh good evening council members. So for our November report, we'll start with the general happenings at North Alagany. Uh the NA fall musical, The Adams Family, had it shows November 5th through the 9th. They were really successful, packed seats. The lead role, uh Gomez, was uh played by my uh my counterpart, Junior Councilman Pur. Um he did a really great job.

Um we generated a lot of ticket sales for the North Alageney Musical organization and we're looking forward to putting on Frozen uh for the uh spring musical. Great. And uh it's not in here, but the North Alageney Middle School Musical um put on a production of uh Schoolhouse Rock and my sister was the lead role in there. So that was that was pretty cool to see like uh the musical on all levels of uh students at North Alagany.

Uh North Alageney Senior High School's student council held its canned food drive for the local community. Um we held monetary donations that could be given online and also physical donations with like the cans themselves. Uh we collected a significant amount of money, $400. Um and we're grateful for all the community support from our students and u members of the National Honor Society so far have logged over 4,000 service hours uh in the school and around the community and they mean maintain they remain ever ready to help the town with any events that they may want to have. Um, at the last uh town council meeting, I talked about uh the uh spring community uh spring career fair that happens at Nash every single year where they bring up students from NI and students at Nash to walk around and look at different schools and also different career opportunities. And I talked about how the town could um get its emergency services to have booths there. I reached out to uh the administration at Nash and they recommend that if the town is interested in getting booths for um I I think sometimes there's a booth for the fire department there but maybe for EMS and the police department that they get in contact with Mrs. Biloski and her email is attached in the uh junior councilman report.

I'll take that on.

Yeah. So that that'll be a good way to get students aware of how they can get involved in those kind of careers locally. um the uh the October uh Northland Library executive report uh indicating that the organization is struggling to fill a lot of vacant positions. Um I know a lot of students who are looking for part-time jobs and I don't know what the library's policy is regarding employing minors, but I think there are plenty of students who especially at NI who live who are a walking distance away from the library who'd be like more than willing to fill those positions. So even if we get into contact with the admin at NAI, we can um start the process of advertising those positions to students who are looking for temporary employment. Um from the October public's works report, it's clear that the town is hard at work to keep the community in the best condition possible. I know a lot of students are wondering um they're seen reports that this winter might be colder than usual in the Ohio Valley just because of how the forecast is turning out for the general winter in the months to come. And I'm sure they'd like to know like what steps the town is taking to kind of prepare for those um cold weather conditions before they hit. You know, being prepar preparatory rather than reactionary. Um so, uh due to a busy November, uh um Councilman Hurry and I decided to postpone the youth town hall that we initially had for November 15th. between the rush of November and a lot of students who initially said they were going to attend but backed out last minute, we realized we'd rather just take a step back, push it back to the new year, and really take the time to uh plan a quality event. So, we are um we're looking forward to picking a new date and uh hopefully in the first month of the new year and working with the town to really make this event happen properly.

Mr. George and I have spoken and we're looking forward to it as well.

Yeah, absolutely. So, we're going to try and uh reach out to as many town council members as possible to see pick a best date that works for as many people as possible to make this event happen. And um I began gathering uh subscriptions for uh my planned newsletter uh targeted towards teens that would keep them updated on local events and the happenings of their local government. But after uh reaching out to the town, we uh decided that due to branding concerns with something uh with the town's name on it, we're actually going to run it through the town um similar to the McMail newsletter service. So, I'm in contact with the public information officer and we're kind of resetting everything to make it run in like a more legally safe way. So, uh that's all we have and we thank everyone for their time.

Thank you, Mr. Thank you. Okay, next leazison reports. the Mandis Industrial Development Authority, Mr. Arland, MIDA, there was no meeting this past month. Um, we do have two interviews tomorrow for an open seat. Good will be conducted. Thank you. North Hills Council of Governments, Mr. Singer, the stuff's in the packet and it's back up. Basically, it's it's more or less the budget for the upcoming year for the council governance, including salt. Last salt.

Public comment on administration and finance. No comment. Planning and zoning reports. Planning director's report for the month of November 2025.

Thank Jack. Uh for the director's report, we had two items on our planning commission agenda. The first item was the application for mortgage subdivision of the Blazer Drive subdivision plan number five, amendment number seven. Uh and the second item being on the agenda being the application for lot revision preps lot revision walking lot 129P087. Both of these items uh were in the planning commission agenda. They both were recommended approval by the planning commission um to with a unanimous vote and uh they'll both be on the agenda for tonight. Happy to answer any questions regarding those applications. On the zoning hearing board, there was three appeals for the upcoming um hearing board meeting in December 2049 20502051. Um the first being an application to request renewal of an unlisted temporary use uh for vehicle storage during uh the Pine Creek flooding season at 10 401 Kerry Highway, Wexford, PA. The second being an application requesting relief for a subdivision of 10521 Country Lane. They're looking for a relief from the front and sideyard setbacks uh to allow for the construction of single family home. And the last being uh a request of of appeal of his appeal of the zoning offers decision in order to allow for the construction of an on-remise digital sign the MN district. That concludes my director report. Happy to answer any questions related to the items on the agenda or the hearing board agenda.

I have a question for you. Um, regarding the Krebs lot line, um, it seemed like the county had a lot of, um, bullet points that needed addressed. Have they all been addressed? Yeah. So, when the application was originally submitted, uh, there was the application actually was tabled. So, the original um, review letter that was received from the county was prior to any updates that were made from the engineer. All the comments uh, have been addressed by the town engineer and the county engineer for the application. Okay. Good. Thank you. Okay. Any other questions?

Have a comment on the zoning hearing board items. Uh we include the upcoming agenda in your packet so the council can discuss if they want to take a position on any of the appeals. Typically the town takes no position and allows the zoning hearing board to uh proceed as they will. One that I'd like to draw your attention to though is this uh request for the renewal of an unlisted temporary use for vehicle storage. This was granted earlier in the season um for the allowing to move vehicles essentially out of the Rave Cinema parking lot and up to higher ground in the case of flooding situations. Um I'm not sure that that's actually what it was used for. We had a couple rains this year and we did not see the cars move up there. uh the cars that are there appear to be uh status quo for the most part and I think that you know we should give careful thought to whether or not this open-ended renewal should be granted for that property. Keep in mind that applicant or the person who owns that property has an approved uh land development plan for construction of a dealership with a parking lot. Uh they have received all the approvals they needed from us. they also have received that final uh piece of land from the vacant property recovery program. So there should be no reason why they can't proceed uh if they'd like to. So I think council should consider if we'd like to take a position uh in favor of or against that variance. Okay.

And the staff's recommendation honestly would be to uh not renew the variance. I had a question. So their application the one of the questions is has another variance been granted for this property and the check mark was no. Is that a correct answer? No. A variance has been granted for that property. Okay. And this is where the RA is. No, this is for the property on 19 where the proposed EV dealership for Schultz Ford. Yes.

Okay. I'm I'm with you. I I don't think the best way that I could put it for myself is you have people come in here with the head of state and they were going to build a building and they were they went through all these generations and now we're not doing well. Can you gave them one variance that was supposed to last three months or four? No, it was granted in March it was allowed to go until the end of October. Okay. Because that's the season they said was the flooding season that they were concerned they'd have to move the cars out of the flood plane.

Forgive me, but there are at least 300 cars down there right now. Yeah, they're get bright. Okay. He's not talking about down there. He's talking up at the Toma location. What I'm saying is to move the cars up there in the event there's going to be a flight. I don't agree with it. You're going to build a building and store them up there. Build a building and store them up there. Well, we were concerned with the open-ended nature of this renewal of the uh temporary vehicle storage and that's going to set a precedent that it would just be able to be continued as that use. Let them do it for that long. Isn't it implied that you have it approved?

Well, they they their variance period has ended. So, this is the time that they need to we the zoning hearing board has to take another action. Okay. So the question is if council wants to take a position you can and you can direct the planning director do in the past. Well given the nature of the council right now being answered by the new council in January. This is going to be at the December 17th meeting.

Well then we have to but I will defer you. uh you know essentially I think that we need to take a stand against this um you know the the tail can't wag the dog. Okay. And remember if council takes a position the zoning hearing board still has the power as a quasi judicial body to make their own decision. You're just letting them know how you feel about it ahead of time. Well, I I don't know how anybody else feels, but I think everybody knows how I feel. I do not want to grant the barriers.

I mean, is the reason that they've not moved the cars because we just haven't had sufficient flooding to cause them to move the cars. That's how I understand it. I don't know. I mean, we've had flooding in that area before. Yeah. before that's before we cleaned out our storm water areas and you know we had some of the highest levels of downpours in May before we had a drought and nobody had to move anything can't move it during the storm

I say we have a an authority designed to address this we should just let them address and then they'll bring it back to the next council. Then the next council can decide.

But you know what, Jack? I hear that. But then I hear, well, you have these people on the zoning hearing board that are far better equipped to deal with this. I'm telling you what's in my heart. I don't think we ought to I don't think we have to extend this this variance. I think we ought to take a stand because once it gets to the zoning hearing board and they make a decision, they are quasi. We are letting them know ahead of time how we feel about it. If you don't have a feeling about it, that's fine. But I feel very strongly about it. I I I would be concerned that we say you can't move those cars into that lot and that a bunch of cars get flooded and then we have a a legal issue.

Well, isn't that isn't that Yeah, the issue at hand is about the land use on the property on Route 19.

So, the issue at hand is whether or not we continue allowing them to use their you know, and remember, it's not up to us. This is simply if council wanted to take a position and let the zoning hearing board know that we have concerns about this. That is all the professional staff was suggesting that you take into account. If you choose to do that, somebody could make a motion to take a position against this and you'd second and vote. If nobody wishes to do that, then we can simply move on to the next topic. I I in my experience I trust the zoning hearing board to look at considerations including the fact that there were attorneys here. There were several people here presenting to us a plan that we needed to approve and we approved that plan and also that a variance has already been granted to this property. Um I I I would I trust the zoning hearing board to make a decision rather than

I agree with that. I'm in agreement with that.

Move on reports. And Matt, under his planning director's report, also Jack had a presentation he wanted to make about zoning and future SAO code updates. Sorry, I missed that. Okay, thank you, Jack. Um, I'm going to give a brief update regarding the uh, as many of you seen from our director report for the past months. Pull that speaker closer. Sorry, I my voice is a little shot today. Apologies. Um, can everybody hear me? Yes.

U, we are planning to make uh zoning and salo uh code update. Um, as many of us know that in 2023, the town uh code and subdivision and land development ordinance uh for the zoning both were updated as well as the zoning map amendment was made. Um, so this presentation is just going to overview the purpose for an update um to the current zoning code in SAO. Um, I'm going to give a brief explanation of what those two things are because they, you know, they do get a little bit complicated. I'm going to discuss the code update changes, uh, general map amendment, and then the process for review moving forward. Um, we have three types of, uh, adjustments that we're looking to make to the zoning code. This being, um, a cleanup and clarification, correction of some of the non-conformities that were created from the adoption of the zoning code, and enhancements to the 2023 zoning code. Um just in terms of the methodology that staff is taking for reviewing the zoning codes, we're taking a look at the current code uh reviewing it for any um errors or or typos, that type of thing. And then we are looking at what changed from the previous code so that we can understand, you know, the reasons that some of these decisions were were made. Um I know I've I've sat and reviewed the all the comments from the zoning task force previously and throughout that entire process. Um it was discussed that you know a zoning code is a living document. So generally speaking um what zoning is is essentially your what and where in zoning or in your land development. So it tells you how in land buildings how land and buildings can be used and developed within the municipality. This includes things like setbacks, building height, lot size, impervious cover, signage, parking, density requirements. Um, and what the purpose is to promote,

protect the public health, safety, and welfare. Um, the other side is the subdivision and land development ordinance, which kind of plays uh handinhand with zoning. This is more of the how um when it comes to development. So, how your land's divided and improved and prepared. This includes um utilities, your requirements for construction of roads, your storm water management, your sidewalk construction, all the requirements for this gets in everything from grading to what the materials are made of. So you have your engineering side, which is more of your subdivision and land development, and your zoning, which is the form and uh the types of uses that could occur on properties. And I just wanted to kind of go over that. So, we had a an understanding of kind of what we've been reviewing and what we're going to look at proposing updates. So, generally speaking, in terms of the code cleanup, um this is, you know, we have there's some grammatical errors and formatting and organizational adjustments that we're going to propose. This is um some of the expected changes and updates that we need because these zoning codes and sos are living documents. um especially whenever you're taking the entirety of our zoning and subdivision land development ordinance and zoning map and doing one file swoop and changing the entirety of it. Um so these are to be expected. Some of these include terminology and internal cross references between the zoning code because they they do reference each other and some of those are just incorrect updates and just need to be um clarified. The second uh type of adjustment that we're going to be uh recommending and and bringing to the public is the creation of non-conformities. Um a non-conformity in legal terms is a property structure land use that was legally established under the previous rules of the zoning but does not meet current zoning regulations. And a couple key points of this and why I bring this up in this presentation is that the creation of non-conformities is something that

occurs whenever you do any type of massive zoning uh rework or or map amendment. Um you're taking essentially we had 17 districts and we we changed them to uh 11 districts. So we've taken different land uses and different land use districts types and now we've taken them to you know less uh less number of of those districts. So, what that's going to do is create a couple buildings, a couple sites and uses that do not conform to what um the the zoning allows for once it was changed. Um and and why that's important is because you know a non-conformity still is legally allowed to continue and op operate as it was. You hear the term grandfathering in that's what a non-conformity is. Um and they can be expanded and adjusted legally. Uh so there are opt there are um there's a legal basis for what a non-conformity is and how you can expand alter it. So the reason I keep that in mind is there's a number of non-conformities that staff myself um just from reviewing both you know quantitative data in terms of number of variances that we received qualitative data just the number of people I've talked to um phone calls that I've received with people looking at developing specific parals that isn't economically feasible or doesn't it doesn't meet the current character of the neighborhood. So, it's a challenge of we've adopted this this code that we're now looking at some of the unexpected issues um that you know can be adjusted keeping the same spirit of you know the original code. Let's see here. Um just these are going to be a couple examples of some of the existing non-conformities just to give people an idea of of of what these are and how they relate to what the current zone zoning code is. So this is the do salary which is um you know right down the street in Pine Creek shopping center. I've received a few calls regarding this

building. I mean it I think anybody that drives by it sees that it's you know has deteriorated and it's a not an eyesore but getting to the point of you know the end of that you know building life and the the makeup of that building. The issue is is whenever you want to come and have somebody you know look at that site for redeveloping you have to bring your current non-conformity into compliance and in the town center zoning district that this is sitting in this requires a minimum of a three-story building with a maximum of a five-story building. So for someone to even do anything with this property, they would have to be within 5 to 10 feet of the street that you can see on the left side of that page or of the picture and also have a 3 to6s story building. Um so it's just a couple of the the elements of our 1302 and 1303 of our zoning code which is our zoning districts and our our zoning uses. they they're it's it's causing difficulties for specific properties and certain properties that we've identified and are identifying to actually develop. And the fear that I have and what I can see happening is if we don't make any of these adjustments or at least talk about these adjustments and figure out a solution, there's going to be missed opportunities for development in this municipality. And what that's going to cause is, you know, the the mom and pop shop or whatever type of business that's wants to come in and develop, they're they're facing extra challenges to what our, you know, our code allows. And what that does, it puts a burden on someone that's coming in to apply for any type of land development because now they have to go in front of a variance. We have a complicated zoning code in SAO that um, you know, needs to be updated. And so we have these we have, you know, a quasi judicial board like we just talked about with the zoning hearing board who has to make these impactful decisions and if every time they're we're getting more and more variance requests and they're looking at the ambiguity of the code and some of these decisions and trying to find a compromise, it starts

to you get to the point where a variance really should you have to prove a a hardship and a variance for for a legal term. So just keeping that in mind in terms of why some of these non-conformities exist and we're at what that does is now anytime there's a non-conformity if they want to come and do some type of development or adjustment of their property it adds an extra step for them to come in when when now we have the zen we're making some of these decisions opposed to getting in front of a planning commission and doing the municipalities plane code process the public approval process the way that it was designed. Um, another example is this is uh New Hart Boulevard. There was a variance request, I believe last month or two months ago, um, for a dentistry office to be on this in this property. Uh, this is located in the neighborhood center MN district. That district has requirements that uh require the buildings to be close to the street with with sidewalks. Um, it's not very conducive to this property. variance was requested. And one of the examples that the applicant used was what you can see here. And I I realized that it's very small, but if you kind of look in the I'll kind of point here, the bottom portion of this property, you can see where this where the road is. There's essentially to come into compliance, they would have to be within 10 feet of each of the sides of this of this property. So it wasn't it it wasn't possible for this property to be developed in accordance with our zoning code without requiring a variance. Um which is which can be be a difficulty especially with you know some of the elements of this code being the formbbased elements. Um typically whenever you take you know a traditional zoning code and implement some of the formbbased design uh requirements and um you know like new age ideas for some of these properties you get properties like this that become unable to be developed so they have to require variance. So you're making a property enter go in front of the zoning hearing board.

You're adding a month of their time. They have to, you know, bas basically it it it negates people from wanting to develop a mechanis, you know, push some of these uh some of these different, you know, business owners that could come in and want to apply. Fortunately for this property, you know, there's a, you know, they were able to fund a solution um and request with the zoning hearing board um a variance to actually be further away from the street. That's the variance they were granted was to be further away from the street and further away from the neighboring residential property. So that's just in this scenario that's they were getting variances for for uh for those two items. Couple more of the items. Uh this is the Whole Foods development. Um it has parking that is located in front of the the building which is non-conformity in our zoning code and the the building is actually not located uh close enough to the street. So there's the entire the entirety of this development is now non-conforming. And so anytime they would want to come in and do some type of expansion or alteration or form adjustment that wasn't a total tear it down and redo something new. Um they would have to come in and get some type of variance request. That's this is on Perry Highway. Um similar type of thing. The buildings are too far away from the street and they the parking um is is not in compliance. Um this is the final example I have. This is in the MN district along West Inglamar Road. There um are a number of, you know, gas stations that were are none of the gas stations or the signs that you see in this picture are conforming to our code. So, anybody that wants to do anything in these properties has to do has to meet our current zoning code. Um, I've probably talked to over a dozen different individuals that are looking at uh the Ingamar gas station looking to redevelopment redevelop that property and have I've never heard back from them because I described to them the the what they would have to do to

bring that property into compliance and they just it's it doesn't it's not conducive to the development that um could occur. And and this is a district that is meant for it's a neighborhood center district. So the the purpose of that district is to have small businesses um and not have you know a big business come in and purchase all these properties and develop you know what what is wanted in this in this uh district which would be you know sidewalks along the street a form that would look like like great like you would drive down you know somewhere in the Mount Lebanon and you see sidewalks and buildings close but the issue is is we have no there's the zoning code doesn't have any um doesn't really pinpoint the the issues with these non-conformities. So, it's going to be a challenge for some of these property owners if we don't at least take a comprehensive look at what changed um and why it changed and and look and see if there's solutions that can um you know bolster our comprehensive plan and also keep the ideas and concepts that were implemented in this you know this massive zoning change um that has a lot of very very good elements in it. Um, so that that's kind of I just wanted to show these examples because these are the type of issues that you know we deal with as staff. Um, and it it just puts puts a lot of time and effort in our time and how we have to explain these these topics and ideas and you know really relay them to the public. Um, and I mean I've even seen just as a like a anecdote for myself, I mean I've even seen our our current zoning code, some of the some of the different uh codes in there have confused our zoning hearing board to the point where like they had to we had to go through clarification and discussion with like myself, other you know professional planners, um, our attorneys. So it can get very complicated um, whenever you're talking about some of these ideas. Um just to kind of keep going on on we have uh our

final type of uh adjustment that we're making and these are just the what I'm calling enhancements. Um these are things that were uh in the zoning code currently that we're looking to update. So we've had a number of fence variances. Um and I I think it's pretty apparent through a lot of the meeting minutes that there is a need to adjust our front yard uh fence requirement. Um, if I mean even uh, you know, I would say that a majority of the people that are looking to purchase fences, they're even saying that trying to buy a 3-ft fence opposed to a 4ft fence is even more difficult. So, I think it's reasonable to have a 4ft and 50% uh, opacity for for fences in the front yard. It's also pretty uh, consistent with neighboring municipalities and general um, zoning regulations for fences within Pennsylvania. The second is our impervious coverage. Um that was added to the zoning code. Um it's in every single district and we're looking at um we're relating some of the the current impervious surface aotment for each property and we're looking at to do a 5 to 10% decrease across majority of the zoning districts. Um, and this is just to kind of, you know, we've our comprehensive plan and our council and staff have done a really good job of putting mechanis forward when it comes to storm water and green space green space preservation. And I think that having a decrease in the amount of actual impervious that we allow will um you know as we have more development and redevelopment will you know force some of these developers to have a you know green-minded um you know building proposal whenever they're coming in because they won't be able to just have as much pavement. So you'll have less, you know, you'll have less parking lots pretty much is what that would, this is where that would have um it's its meat. Um the final enhancement we're discussing is adopting a formal defined use for data centers.

Um data centers are uh something that have come up in uh I mean you've probably seen it on the news or in I've seen it in some of the planning um documents I've read. It's just a a use that, you know, you'll have something like Amazon um web servers come in and they're they're they can be very uh detrimental to the amount of energy that's used and it's taking an environmental aspect. So, we're going to look at getting ahead of that before we get, you know, a large data center that could want to come into McCandless and we don't have a use that uh necessarily defines that specifically. Um as we continue down our zoning code, we have our section 135 which is signs. Um, one of the amend amendments that we're proposing uh is to our sign codes to address the uh the current need for regulations to our off- premise digital display signs, which is essentially the the word for billboards in our code. Um, and what the that is going to propose is limiting these signs to specific districts. So, um, you know, we I think that a lot of people do not want meas to become a drive-thru. You drive down the street and there's 45 billboards. Um, so that the zoning code does address billboards, but we just want to clean up uh clean up our standards so that we can, you know, pinpoint where these billboards are going to be and make sure that we um, you know, like one of the recommendations that we're making is that they're only permitted in the MC corridor districts and along Mcnite Road. Um, and they have to be 400 feet away from a residential zoning district. What this does is it's going to protect uh property owners and and residents who you know they come in McKinley they purchase a home and if you if you want to ask me what could change the character of a home would be a big billboard that would light up the night right near your residential. So what this is going to do is is very much protect residents from that type of nuisance while also making sure that

they're you know the town's legally protected with being able to have this type of use somewhere so that it's not exclusionary. Um, and that's just to include that there are additional regulations that are currently in the code that would still stand. That is if you would have, you know, one of these signs that you could only have one sign per lot and that if there was a billboard along Good Night Road, it have to be a thousand feet away from the next one. Uh, so I think that, you know, with this proposition, um, you know, this could this could really help enhance uh, you know, our zoning code to make sure that we're uh, keeping on track with our comprehensive plan and the wants and needs of of our residents. Lastly, um as I mentioned a few times tonight, there were map amendments that were made um in the the previous zoning code um and salvo amendment. We're going to look at um some of those map amendments because I've I as I've gone through, I've identified a few what I believe to be uh errors in that code. Um there's a few properties that are zoned residential or commercial that that aren't that weren't that weren't doesn't seem that they were intentionally meant to to do that. So, um, we're going to we're going to take a look at some of those properties and identify them, um, and see if and make sure that, you know, any of those any anything that doesn't really, uh, match with what our comprehensive plan put forth and what the zoning amendment um, originally put forth, we're going to make sure we find any of those adjustments so that we don't get a zoning use that is gets, you know, presented that isn't supposed to be where it's supposed to be. Um and and and to be honest with you, whenever you're doing something as big as a project like this, there's going to be I mean there's going to be errors that happen. Um and so now it's our job to kind of take a look at some of those errors and fix them. Um as for the adoption review process, uh we're going to kind of do this in a two-phase step. Um as I mean as I've gone through in my six months with the municipality, I've spent time reviewing

our code. I've spent time with talking with John and uh we've kind of come to the conclusion that we want to make sure that if we're going to make an amendment that's going to have some changes that are more than just cleaning up what you know was previously done just those you know those uh text amendments and those terminology adjustments that we want to make sure that we have time to um get information in front of the public for public comment um and have a place where you know individuals are able to come and look at what is proposed what the adjustments are in and voice their opinions and ideas. Uh because the you know the zoning and salad does regulate the form of what this municipality is and I I do think that a lot of the elements from the previous zoning code are are great ideas in concept. Um I just don't think that the execution of how they were actually developed into the code um are optimal for what you know what was wanted through that process. And I think that some very um particular and educated decisions that we make regarding our south zoning could take this municipality a long way and really protect um our residents, our residential districts and really pinpoint our commercial districts so that we, you know, moving it forward for the next 20, 30, 50 years. We're going to start to see some of these um you know, adjustments and visions for our municipality actually come to fruition. uh rather than you kind of get tucked away and and lead to a lot of uh requests for variances and complicated um zoning practices that are just going to cause headaches for the you know the small business person opposed to you know some big business that's going to come in and try to buy a bunch of these properties and then you know create form to what our zoning code is. Um and I'm happy to answer any questions. I know that there's there there's a lot when it comes to this. So, I always just wanted to give an overview so that once we start to get to these public meetings and these the the public discussions that, you know, we're kind of prepared

for the types of things that were going to be discussed. Any questions? I have one up. In the instance of the do sat, what can you do so that doesn't become a blighted property? Um, do you mean like what could the what what what adjustments can you do to make somebody's got to build a 3D?

What you could do right now with that with that building? Um, is someone could come in and reface the outside a little bit and do like interior renovations there and as long as it was an approved use that was permitted by Wright, um, they could do that. The issue is is and like we had a restaurant that wanted to come into that property. They were not able to reconfigure that into a restaurant. So they kind of if they wanted to redevelop that property, it would it would require them to I mean to make it make sense in our zoning, they'd have to get variances. I mean, I don't know how you would they because they'd have to move they'd have to move that building closer to the street because the zoning code doesn't allow for buildings to be further than 10 feet. um I think it's 10 ft in the town center, 10 or 15 from the street. Um so they would have to basically either reconfigure that building as is and just just change the use or they would have to tear that building down, reconfigure their parking lot, put up a minimum of threetory building or get some type of variance requests. Um

so the answer to your question, Don, is the way you prevent that is by eliminating the build two line. You don't want that. You want to get rid of the segments, the front block, mid block, rear block, segment, and you want to get rid of a minimum height requirement. You should have a maximum height requirement. You should not need a minimum requirement. Those three changes are what prevent that from never being redeveloped.

It sounds to me as though the zen code was developed for a was developed for a town that was yet to be developed. Okay. for walking. Okay. Uh here in the camelas, we're pretty much out of space. So, anything that gets developed here now is a redevelopment. So, the the stuff that we're talking about, I mean, that's essential for us to change.

Yeah. And I I'll just add too um I have done some like digging into professional uh articles and and research regarding you know the traditional zoning verse formbased zoning which is kind of elements of you and a lot of zoning codes in in Pennsylvania have adopted some type of formbased code. And what that form based is is essentially if you think you know if you're walking down a street every building looks the same. has the same feel. And what they what all the conclusion is is, you know, when it comes to pen and paper, a form-based code, there's a lot of reasons that it makes sense. I mean, I think that um like personally like West Ingamar Road being the way it is, it makes sense there to have that be redeveloped into a walkable neighborhood, but comparing that to, you know, Perry Highway having the same zoning regulations as Duncan Manor,

you've now that's that's how that's what our code is.

So, it's Yeah. So there's it's there's there's difficulties and um whenever you have form-based zoning codes and in the past that that is a negative of of adding adding form-based codes. Um typically if we had a blank slate and we could create streets the way we wanted streets and have it be formed, it would it would there wouldn't be these headaches. But having, you know, having buildings that aren't don't even match the the zoning setbacks create I mean I I think that we did a the last two weeks we were looking at Perry Highway and just looking at some of the non-conformities and we were really looking at from an overview and it's close to like 60 or 70% of the properties either are non-conforming to the use the the actual uses that are allowed there or to like where the buildings are. And that's 70% of of just one strip of like 40 properties. And that's we just looked at one one corridor to see how difficult it would be. So I think that uh just for as you know to kind of talk about the zoning in general there are a lot of very good elements to the zoning. It was not there's there's a few key negatives that can be rectified that will will solve this without blowing this full zoning code up again. Like the for example I talked mostly about the south the zoning code. Our salo is pretty well written. Um there's a few small things that need to be adjusted, but the the sal the way that the sal was written is pretty conducive to like majority of the municipalities I've researched and I've worked in. Um it's just some of the zoning elements were if if we could have a vision, we put them into our zoning code where sometimes, you know, that that isn't the best best way moving forward because now we are putting a burden on property owners.

So no, what you're telling us is you have a lot of work to do. I have a lot of work to do. That's all right. And he's done a lot of work to get to That's why I'm here, Joe. Once it's done, you know, there's not I mean, there's always going to be something to do. It's always something. Thank you, Matt. That is truly one of the best presentations I've seen in the last four years. Was well thought out, well presented. Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you very much, Jack. Yeah, I appreciate the examples. I mean, that that just brings to light everything really. Thank you.

And one of the things I'll piggyback on with him here too, you saw in his last slide he was going to split up how we were going to address these situations. So one was the immediate need which is correct that sign code. Part two is take our time work through the other details to work out these unintended consequences. He talked about nonconformities and you know cost prohibitive to small business etc. That sign code is important to pay attention to and I'll tell you what our timeline looks like for that uh this year and the two reasons why. Um at our December 15th meeting I intend to show you a draft ordinance that I'd like you to allow me to advertise for adoption. That ordinance is going to clean up the offremise sign situations that Matt just talked about. Okay. Prior to that and you know concurrently I'm going to tie this all together for you. If you've paid attention to our zoning hearing board agendas for the last nine months, we have had continuences granted to us from the applicant who wanted to develop two billboard locations very near residential districts that would currently uh I would have to say that they would 99% have to be granted. They have a very good legal uh case to be able to have those billboards in those locations, but they're not in the best interest of the residents nearby and it's not in the best interest of the town. That's those same uh two applications are presented by the same parent company who currently has two appeals uh at Alageney County common please court against our zoning hearing board for them denying uh billboard location along Mcnite Road. We have been in communication with that company and trying to find a solution that benefits the town uh while realizing they know and they have a legal right to potentially build where they've applied. Uh that discussion has

led to a compromise where we are going to suggest that um those applications are withdrawn for those positions but in exchange for that we would like to have them build two off-remise signs. one along Route 19 on the north end near the get-go in a piece of town-owned rightaway and one along the south end near Mcnite in another piece of town-owned rightway. Those would be uh I'll call them welcome to McCandless signs like you've seen in other municipalities uh in exchange for the ability to put those signs in those lease locations. And there's many more details to the lease, but you know, we uh we would basically have a gateway to McCandless on both ends with a messaging system we'd be allowed to use for our events as well. The reason why we have to talk about that a little bit now is because if council were to consider entering into a lease agreement of this nature, it is a class B ordinance and it requires a public hearing. Um, in order to move this forward and in order to make Matt Sign code be able to, you know, correct these material weaknesses that we've seen, we need to take action on that lease public hearing at the December 8th meeting. So, you're going to see an ad in the paper for December 8th to have a public hearing about a potential lease arrangement between the town and this company who will come in and potentially build these signs. There will be a vote scheduled on December 15th where we will vote whether or not to enter that lease agreement. Um we still need to iron out a few details. Uh it's a legal matter that we've been relying on the solicitor to work with the attorney for this company in order to come up with an arrangement that suits the town in the best possible way. And we'll continue that discussion tonight in our executive session. Uh but I wanted to make sure everybody knew that that was coming up in the next two weeks. And it's going to be important to pay attention to to what we have to

show. Great. Appreciate the feedback. Any questions? Okay. Theison reports any commission? I uh was not able to attend. I don't believe Nick was able to either in my absence, but uh meeting minutes for your packet and Matt teed up the two actions we'll be voting on tonight. Okay. Thank you. zoning hearing board. Miss Cloon, thank you. And yeah, we will be meeting December 17th and I think we've discussed. Thank you. Any public comment on planning and zoning?

Um, I thought that I remembered though that all the zoning changes have to go through planning first. Am I reme I haven't checked or anything but I thought I recalled like the whole zoning code when it was revamped. It went through planning first. It eventually it does. It can emanate from planning and then come to council or it could come from the administration council go to planning for review and then come back. They're in the process. It just can start at different points. That was it. Any other comments? Moving right along then, recreation reports, park and recreation director's report for the month of November 25th. Abby,

good evening everybody. Um, I just wanted to give you a couple Winterfest highlights. Winterfest, as you know, is on Saturday, December 6th. This year, we're starting an hour early. We're starting at 3:00 and we will go till 7:00. We're planning to set off the fireworks around 6:45, so it'll be plenty dark by then. Um, we're bringing back lots of favorites and adding some new stuff in this year. We've got s'mores and a bonfire, uh, food trucks, gingerbread house competition. So, be sure to drop off your entries, um, next week. Um, we're doing the name the snowplow contest. Anna and Elsa will be um, present. Santa arrives on a firet truck at 3:00. We've got the Eagloo photo booth, the train and bouncy houses for kids. We've got vendor tables, and we'll be doing a collection for the North Hills Community Outreach. Again, um the list of their most wanted items is on our website, as well as the police department is collecting unwrapped toys for kids that evening as well. Um the ice carver will be back. We have a DJ, and as you can see outside, the uh public works has been hard at work. um decorating and putting up all of the lights. So, hope to see you there.

Great report. Thank you. Leaison reports finance development and promotional committee for the heritage and cultural center. Mr. Hart, we had a very successful gayla uh and the uh the heritage center is moving on to 2026 uh with the help of the chairman and Abby uh have a full list of speakers and events for 2026. will be up on the calendar this year. Also, Santa will be coming to the HCC on December 13th, 14th, and 15th or 12th. 13th, whatever the Friday, Saturday, Sunday. I hope he's very repentant.

Yes, he is. He is. So, there'll be three days to to get your picture with Santa. Uh, and the pictures are free. a picture with Santa and be worth it just to see Santa. I think sure will even if you don't get your picture. Okay. Thank you. Thanks. Activities advisory ad hoc committee. Miss Cloon. Uh the ad hoc committee had no meeting but um with with Aby's direction. We've been meeting with the 175 and met quite regularly. Excellent. Thank you.

Any public comments on recreation? Yeah, I just want to say what a great job you're doing, Abby. People seem to be excited about being out and about in the town again. So, I second that. Town manager report.

Uh reports in your packet. A few highlights include the application and first round interview process for the assistant town manager position. First round interviews are complete. uh second round interview scheduled for the week of December 1st. Uh we do have a sergeant promotional process in the works for uh our police department. Uh and we should have uh personnel board meets tomorrow in order to certify the list of eligible candidates and we should have an interview available for council at the December 8th meeting. a number of grant applications we have to discuss tonight. Um including the award of a uh generator and electrical upgrade bid for town hall. Um compliments to our public works department again on their leaf season. Uh the fourth leaf truck has moved swiftly along. We did uh have discussion internally and decided to announce we did it today on Facebook and we'll do it through our other sources as well to extend the leaf collection until December 5th. So, anybody can put their leaves out until December 5th. We'll make one final pass through town after that, but uh any leaves placed out at the curb after December 5th, I can't guarantee will pick up. Happy to answer any questions you have about any of the other items in the report.

Good report. Thank you. Town attorney's report. Mr. Corbal. Thank you, Mr. Vice President. I have no public report, but if there's any questions about the report in your packet, we can discuss it in our post meeting executive session. That's the end of my report. Thank you, sir. Old business. No old business. New business. We have quite a few actions here. We need an action concerning the Blazer Drive plan number five, amendment number seven, lock lot 945-B3.

Vice President, Move to approve subdivision number five amendment seven mortgage subdivision application submitted by spur tube surveying as reviewed by the town engineer in their letter dated on February 2025 recommended for approval by the planning commission. Second that. Thank you Don. All in favor? I. Next is the action concerning Krebs lot line revision.

I'll make a motion to approve the application for lot line revision. Krebs lot line revision block slash lot 1209-P87 per town engineers review letter dated October 27, 2025. Second. Thank you, Miss Cronin. All in favor? I

I passed. Motion passed. Uh action concerning resolution 2025-18. I'll make a motion to approve timely identified resolution number 2025-18 setting dates for the various meetings of town council and other town agencies for the year 2026. Do you have a second? Second. Thank you, Doug. All in favor? I I

Thank you. Approved. Uh action concerning resolution 2025-9. I'd like to make a motion to approve tenatively identified resolution 2025-9, a resolution of the town council of the town of Macccanas, Alageney County, Pennsylvania to adopt initiatives to be recognized as a bird town through the bird town PA program. Joe's second. All in favor?

I. Next action concerning LSA resolutions. I'll make a motion to approve the resolution 2025-20 series regarding an application to the Commonwealth Financing Authority for a local share account grant in the amount of $179,45752 to be used for the town of McCandless uh Lar Ro east Dam Improvements. Do we have a second? Second, ch. Thank you. All in favor?

I opposed. Motion passes. Motion to uh Oh, I guess the next one. This is where we're going to have this. Yeah, we have to have John's input here.

So, uh, one thing I'll make a comment about these resolutions in general. These resolutions are authorizing us to apply for these grants through the local share account. Um, I'll describe to you these projects as we go through this. Now, one thing to keep in mind is if you apply for a grant and you get the award, you still have to uh put that project out to bid, you can still choose based on the competitive bidding, based on the needs of the town at the time, whether or not whether or not you want to proceed with the project. So, while we're asking for these resolutions to be passed now, this does not imply that we've received the money. It does not imply that we're going to receive the money. It's just asking for the money to make the improvements. If awarded, then we would have to, like I said, go out to bid and kind of revisit all this again. Anyway, um resolution number 20 that you just discussed is necessary repairs to a dam. Believe it or not, there's a dam along the east side of Lar Ro that needs maintained. It has an emergency action plan and it is deteriorating. That is uh in the best benefit of the town. Um number 21. These are park lighting and security upgrades. This is a request for Vestal Field and for Wall Park. and Kelly will have more detailed numbers if you need to ask about them, but these include pricing for uh new lighting poles and LED fixtures for Wallpark, which currently does not have any lighting at all, and security upgrades, including security camera system that would be able to be monitored by the police department um so that we can keep a better eye on that facility. It's kind of in a very uh dark and remote area and we've had some vandalism there that needs to be addressed. This also satisfies a need of our athletic associations who are desperately seeking nighttime ball play. They have a number of kids increasing in participation each

year and they've been really uh really asking for for improvements. Included in that are the replacement of wooden poles at Vestal Field that we have seen fail. We've seen them deteriorate and fall over and potentially cause harm to any kids playing. This would replace those with metal poles with LED lighting. It's all LED down lighting which will reduce the impact on any of the neighboring uh properties and communities and security upgrades as well including camera systems. You know, it sounds like a lot. The total cost of this project is almost $1.3 million, a little north of $1.3 million, but poles, lighting, and cameras. Unfortunately, the price has escalated as time's gone on. There are site improvements associated with that too, including trenching and restoration requirements to the fields. Also, if you need any more detailed information, I'm sure Kelly would be happy to give you a breakdown of what that is. But that's the uh reason for the million-doll ask there.

Anything with ADA in there, you have to comply with ADA. Well, I mean, anytime you light a situation up, uh it obviously helps improve uh the ADA aesthetics to that. So this does not have any physical improvements like sidewalks, ramps, etc. But you know, lighting obviously provides a enhanced experience for correct me if I'm wrong. During our last renovation of Wall Park, those issues were all addressed. I can't speak to that. I'm not 100% sure of the answer to that.

Okay. Do we have a motion? Make a motion to approve resolution number 2025-21 series regarding an application to the Commonwealth Financing Authority for a local share account grant in the amount of $1 million to be used for the town of Michaela's park lighting and security upgrades. Do have a second? Second. Thank you, Joe. All in favor?

I. All posted. Motion passes. Motion on resolution 2025. Make a motion to uh approve resolution 2025-22 series regarding an application to the Commonwealth Financing Authority for local share account grant in the amount of $261,98410 to be used for the town of McCandless public works leaf collection machines. Second. Thank you Doug. All in favor? I

opposed. Motion passes. The next one is uh for a local share account for the uh police vehicle cover. and make a motion to approve resolution number 2025-23 series regarding the application to promote financing authority for local share account grant in the amount of $210,915 90 for the Tommy can police vehicle covered parking structure second. Thank you, John Doug.

Discussion. John, you want to give a little bit more on that? Sure. This is for um

this is for a structure to be placed in the rear of town hall where our police cars currently sit outside uncovered. This would be an opensided structure via roof uh essentially on steel beams that would hold it up. Very aesthetically pleasing. And Kelly has a drawing uh of that. Uh simply keeping the cars out of the weather. You know, if you think about each one of those vehicles and the investment that we have in them, uh the better that we can keep them out of the weather, you know, the longer they'll last. This is a simple solution for that that has no impact on our uh flood plane construction situation out back. We're very limited with what we can build on this property based on where our floodway and flood plane are. And where is this to be located, Kelly?

Directly above where the cars are sitting now. the police. There's like 13 building. Okay. So, it's just going to be located over there like a slanted roof. Yeah. sitting on. My question is how that impacts our dates and things of that nature that we have if it doesn't Well, the cars are already there. Oh, well, they do move them out. You're right. Move the cars and put the boots.

Yeah. Charge twice as much rent for those spots. I like that. I like the way you Okay. Can I have a vote? All in favor? I opposed. Motion passes. Uh, next one is regarding a application uh for our public works dry storage.

I'll make a motion, Mr. Casey uh to approve resolution number 2025-24 series regarding an application to the Commonwealth Financing Authority for a local share account grant in the amount of $694,8225 to be used for the town of Maca's public works dry storage garage. Second. Thank you, Doug. All in favor? I opposed. Motion passes.

Little detail on that because I know that had a question in the audience also. Um, you know, once again, similar situation to the police vehicles. We have loaders, leaf trucks, you know, $250,000 dump trucks that sit outside and weather unnecessarily due to the limited storage space we have in our garage. We have uh 10 dump trucks parked in an area that's probably suitable for about five safely. This building would be constructed along Macandless Drive and it would allow for public works to rotate inseason vehicles in and out of there in order to keep them stored properly and it create a more safe garage space for them.

Thank you. Action concerning CDBG resolution. I make a motion to approve Tedly identified 2025-25 to formally request CDBG funds from the Alageney County Economic Development in the amount of $95,370. Second. Thank you, Joe and Doug. All in favor?

I opposed. Motion carries. Action concerning the award of bid number 2025-01 generator project. I'll make a motion to award the base bid for the 2025-1 generator project to West Morland Electric Services LLC in the amount of $178,000 and 0. Second, Joe. All in favor? I opposed. Motion carries.

Thank you. Action concerning the res resignation of Mr. Hartman. Before we do that, Mr. chairman. I just want to thank Matt for his time and his effort that he put on the EAC as all of our volunteers. You know, we have some here. So, we have volunteers put in an incredible amount of time here. I don't want it to be lost. And you know what? Publicly, I just wanted to thank Matt for his time.

He's done an awesome job. Thank you. I'd like to make a motion accepting the resignation of Mr. Matt Hartman from the EAC and just to add that he's always welcome back as well. Excellent. Second. Second. All in favor? I I opposed. Motion carries.

Public non-aggenda comments. Irene Kellando. As we come to the close of a year, I would just like to take a minute to thank all seven of our council members uh for the work that you put in this past year. Everyone knows that I've disagreed with many of the decisions and I've even disagreed with some of the the um processes for getting to that decision. But the fact remains that you have week after week shared your time and your talents on behalf of the citizens of McCandalis and I want you to know that that does not go unappreciated.

Thank you. Finally, I would like to request that every photo that's taken of a council person on Santa's lap, please be released to the public.

I won't be in one of those pictures. Thank you, Irene, and thank you for your service to our community. Okay. Um, we're going to meet in Oh, I'm sorry.

Um, I this. So, if you want to say I can't say this, that's fine. Is anybody going to get back to me about the questions I had about the budget, the professional services? True. Should I look? Is Is anybody going to get back to me about that? Professional services include all contracted services such as engineers, attorneys, actuaries, auditors. They're split in the budget. They are in the 310s. They're under professional services. However, they're split into each uh parent area where they're used. So, under 410, police 310, yes, that's where the personnel board solicitor would go. Uh Mr. Corbal gets split up over various areas throughout the town budget where he spends his time. If he spends his time with right to know requests, he's in 406. If he spends his time in zoning matters, he's in 413 and 414. So, it is divided up among those different areas.

Okay. Thank you. Appreciate that answer. Um, when I was last here, I talked about the lights at the history center and I was told that they were on a timer. Um, I haven't checked this week or I didn't check last week, but right after the meeting I checked on that. You know, they're still on at 11 o'clock at night when nobody's there. I'm curious. Um, what is the timer set for? If that's the case, then there's something wrong. Brad assured me he set the timer at 900 p.m.

Actually, he did set the timer, but there's a there's a burn-in period or something that that have to go through. Um, I'm certain that they're not on past 11. Well, I didn't check this week, but I but I the pri but the prior week I made it a point because that's past my bedtime. Thanks for sharing and um to see if the lights were on. And then the other thing is the last thing I have is that um there was an amended agenda posted for today at um two and I'm kind of curious why the agenda was amended at two today for a 7:30 meeting. You didn't see it said at the agenda center. It said

typographical error. Where where did it say the typographical error? Help me out if you were in the text with John Bajarski. Our public information officer suffered a fall on Friday. He had to go to the emergency room and he was unable to post the agenda. We posted it on his behalf and he had a typographical error. He corrected today in there. Actual misspelling of initial posting. It just says amended on it. Now that's what that spelling is. We could get back to you. Okay. Thank you. How is John? Okay. Uh he has to go to his foot doctor tomorrow and see what the next treatment is. So let's keep him in your thoughts and prayers if you do that and hope that he can heal up quickly. Okay. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Okay. Now we're going to John

to the council members. If this is your last meeting, it's been a pleasure. You guys have worked your butts off to work. Got a couple more. Okay, then we're good. Then I'll wait until the real thing is if we can get somebody in this town to please really try to get the traffic lights fixed in the town. We'd be better off taking the traffic lights out and putting stop signs in. It would be safer than what's there now. When you live on Babcock Boulevard in the morning and I have to sit through the light for three light cycles in front of Passman Hospital, that's ridiculous. If I have to p go and I make a a right-hand turn onto Cumberland going towards Lowe's and you sit four cycles to get through that light to make a left-hand turn. That is ridiculous.

We had a problem there this morning and pretty bad. And let me tell you, the number of accidents that are happening in these intersections because of it have to be going through the roof. There was two accidents on Mcnite Road, which I know it's out. It's right on the line of Macandless Ross, but where people's dumps on the on the Mac on to Mcnite. The lights need to be fixed. I have good news. They're all part of the 2022 Arley signal upgrade, which is currently in process. Okay. Well, whatever. the white truck out with a trailer in the SCT bucket. I have. He messed a lot of things up today. Yes, he did. He's going back to repair them tomorrow because what he did over the weekend, what they did, they screwed up Babcock something fierce there, dude. John,

they'll be they'll be back to fix it. But those intersections are all part of those upgrades. Okay. Because the thing is it's also we've got kids that are driving in the morning. Yeah. We've got school buses. We got everything. They're in the works. What? They have an end date. That's supposed to be completed by the end of the year. The six new green light go projects from two cycles ago will not be completed until probably June. Okay. Can they fix the problems they created before they go and work on something else? Okay, that's all. Thanks, guys. Thank you. Okay, we're going to meet in executive section, but uh can they come to Thank you. Everybody have a great Thanksgiving.