Common Council - Regular Meeting

Well, let's go on and start tonight's meeting. Tonight the prayer will be of Pastor Jeremy Moore of the San Icarus Community Church. Jeremy, thank you very much for doing this for us tonight. After that, the oath of loyalty will be pronounced by the advisor Jeff Reyes. Everyone get up and take off your hat, please. Holy Father, we present ourselves to you to thank you for who you are. We thank you, Lord, for the love that you show us, the grace and mercy that you continue to pour over us. Lord, I pray that each of us can take a moment to repent of those sins in which we have not been at your level, in which we have not been at your level, in which we have not heard your voice, we have not heard your voice. Lord, we pray for your forgiveness and your mercy so that we can have pure hearts while we go on tonight and do your business. Lord, we thank you for the love, mercy and protection that you have shown to this community in the last week or so. Father, many of our fellow Indians are suffering a lot. And Lord, please, we can take a moment of silence to think about those who have been hit by these recent floods. Holy Father, we pray that you bless all our public employees, our firemen, our police officers and our counselors. Lord, all those who have called to serve this community, may they do their best, Lord, guided by your Holy Spirit. May you have a blessing of wisdom and discernment for each of them while they do their work for this city tonight and in the future. Lord, we thank you for this time and may all our glory and glory be with you in the future.

For this brand. With the. I mean.

We have this beautiful award-winning park. It is wonderful with the flowers and its appearance throughout the year. There are people who come from everywhere for our park. I am so proud of it and I thank all those who work hard for us. Rosetti would like to come up here.

I have just written a couple of things, because when I go up they blather. So I just want to thank all our volunteers and employees of the park for their exceptional work and their dedication not only to the Matterpark gardens, but to all our city parks, which include more than 160 acres. Your hard work, not only for the maintenance of the Matterpark gardens, does not go unnoticed and I am personally grateful to every volunteer and volunteer of the park. Thank you for dedicating time and energy to support the Department of Parks, because without our numerous volunteers and the employees dedicated to parks over the years, the parks would not be what they are today. The hard work that everyone puts in today ensures that thousands of families and lovers of life in the open air have a clean, safe and welcoming space to have fun every day. Day after day, your attention to detail and your positive attitude make a huge difference for the entire community. Your commitment inspires the people around you and shows how much a person can change a community better. I appreciate each one of you and it is an honor to work with you every day. Il Consiglio Comunale ha creato dei certificati individuali per i seguenti e, come evitiamo, se volete venire a prendere il vostro certificato, alla fine faremo una foto. Giulie Fauci. Andiamo, Ministro Rogers. Giulia Glesner.

Jeremiah Horvath. Zach Hodgett.

Nick Raffo.

And then we have some seasonal employees who made a big difference in our park this year and I know that Jeremiah appreciated each of them. and they are really committed and I don't think none of them is here tonight but Willie Green L.D.

Riley Paul Ardigan and Bella Fosnight and then our volunteers who are here tonight are Tom, Cheryl, Belle And then we have George Hill. Pat Hill and Chris Meyer, who continue to volunteer in our park, make a big difference, especially in the Matterpark gardens. And I know that you all appreciate those volunteers.

Perfect. Grazie a tutti.

Qualcuno del consiglio vuole commenti?

Lo farò. Penso che facciano un lavoro fantastico. Il Parco Mater è semplicemente il fiore all'occhiello della città e il vostro duro lavoro e la vostra dedizione significano molto per la comunità.

Yes, I am very proud of our park and anyone who comes to the city or talks about it, to relieve stress, I take my little Honda 50 and I go around my house, through the park and back home.

So this is the destination. I love our parking lot and I think you are doing a great job.

ok next point is the order of the day approved there is some discussion on the contrary take into consideration motion Mr. President I propose to approve the order of the day approved we have a motion of the councilor Caine supported by the councilor Brunner appeal please for the ice

But not as soon as I find them.

It's still brief. However, the Aviation Administration Board met on August 5 and the key moment of the meeting is that the fuel tank is now operational. we contributed to pay it through the ARPA funds after a last shake a small valve was installed on Saturday and therefore both the JEDA and the Cento Low Led both systems are completely operational they started the self service so good news on that front They are still waiting to see the request for support for the construction of a parallel, partial rolling track towards track 33. The design phase has already been approved and they do not see the time to go on, they do not see the time to make a approach flight on the weekend of the Bordeaux and also the Indian Wesley and the aeronautical academy will hold a great exhibition.

Thank you, Michael.

The board of directors met yesterday and talked to the police department about the updated SOP on drones. They examined the various discussions. They were in a sense clarifying where and how the levels could be flown, what could be recorded and that it was necessary to ask to go out instead of flying and see what was happening. And other small details of the genre. They also put on sale one of the old original drones as an outstanding property and they put it up for auction with a minimum offer.

At the time of the meeting they did not know.

The hope was that the minimum they were looking for was 23,000. One of the largest had all the extra equipment. They said that with the new technology they can get to some of the smallest and they don't have to have all the big ones. They hoped to be able to replace it with another piece of equipment, but if they don't get offers. This is all about border work.

There are other comments from the committee. Okay, let's move on to the suspended questions. Addition 4.10.26.

Addition for the elimination of the degrade. Second reading, public hearing. Addition for 500,000 dollars for the elimination of the degrade. Justin Dickerson, Commissioner Edile intervenes.

So I'm back for the second reading for the 500,000 dollars of the change fund of the mayor. As I said last time, I have 12. They are ready to be used at this time. 10 are in the process of elaboration at the Council of Labor. Then I also have a pile of 40 that we are actually examining at the moment. We have worked today, there are at least 15 more that we have just sent, all new within 10 days.

So it depends on how they answer me within 10 days if they go to the council. I received some numbers for the first 12 that have been approved.

I can give them to you if you want them.

I would be happy to answer any questions.

Justin, I would like you to give me those numbers. You have 12. With the numbers already above.

You made me copies, you read them all and that's it.

Can I give them to you and read them?

It depends on you. If you give me a total import on 12, it will be useful to me. So, the 11 that are normal residential are 236,000. And then when we add the mobile line store,

I just want to make a clarification on these 500,000 for demolition. I would ask you to use them only for demolition and nothing else. I don't want you to take the money for other things like in the past I would like to dedicate this document only to demolitions and I will make a clarification to the motion on this and I would like you to use it for anything else only for demolitions we have accumulated those funds and we have accumulated them and that is why we went down so low we have used them for other things and we don't need to do it we have so many houses to demolish so thank you very quickly justin on the 11th that have already been approved as residential of the other 40 questions or 40 properties that you are examining how many of these are residential they are in the review phase these are other commercial-type properties such as the rights that are in the evaluation phase at the moment no

I have a question that is not very related to tonight's topic, but I have noticed that since I work in the city, many orange adhesives have been put on some of the degraded areas.

Could you tell me what the adhesion says?

They are all the same.

Yes, they are all the same. It is an application code when they cut the grass.

So even if it is attached to the building, it is what it is.

Yes, it is what it is.

Another quick question about this. I think so. If all 40 were examined and accepted, do you have enough money to take care of 40 more pieces of a Degrader? Jeffrey, the average on 11 houses is 286,000. There are 21,454 dollars per house. So, what is the last question? Quick. What is the plan for, you know, we will choose other 11 houses of the 40 that can be

What is the plan for the others? We will continue with the adhesives and things like that. We will continue with the process and then the budget for next year will feel it.

If we stop, you know, we take a break, we will sum up.

Exactly. I agree with this too.

The story of the properties is right there.

Justin, is there any resistance from you or your department? As far as you know, Mr. Ford wants to deposit all 500,000 dollars and I have no problems with that, but is there any resistance? Is there money you need for something else? So, do you agree? I can go. All 500,000 can go into demolition. Thank you for clarifying.

I appreciate that you have passed this assignment. There is a lot in District 5 to take care of and I appreciate it.

This is probably one of the things in which the public can really see why the money of the taxes are spent because, you know, just to clean up the light. Which never ends because people are not responsible for the properties, let's say, they are not. And so these are well spent money. It's sad to say it, we have to spend this kind of money, but it's necessary and it happens in every city.

And I spend ten days trying to get in touch with the owner and try to insist for an entity of the jobs, you know, try to bring it back before having to bring it to the council of jobs to obtain a new one. Sometimes it works. I had a couple of cases where they were actually restructuring the houses after I insisted, Sometimes we receive our letters back and we don't get an answer. The only thing left to do.

Well, and just to add to this, you know, perception is reality at the end of the day.

So sometimes, you know, you see the decay around the city and people drive and think that everything is done like this and it's not what Marian does. So... I think the same thing, I am in favor and especially if you give them a warning and things like that in advance, a lot of time to do things and there is no answer, those who want to help to make progress in the city will make it happen.

I have another comment that I talked to Justin about these demolitions and stuff like that and he knows it well how much it is over the years. We could go back and back and back to the Seabolt administration when they were beating them. We probably have more than 5 million dollars in rents on property of houses that we have demolished and that we should chase. You know, at least you know, chase owners and stuff like that. and on some of these justin he had the idea that maybe he could start to recover part of the money on the demolitions chasing some of these llc that have houses that are going to ruin and let them go to ruin maybe he will pursue it through the judicial system and will try to recover part of these money so this will also be positive if we can do as we do with the application of the code That money goes back to the application of the code and then they can continue to do other projects with the application of the code. The same goes for demolitions. They have a positive attitude in trying to pursue this goal, so we can recover part of the demolition expenses from some of these LLCs and owners and things like that that let them go, and homeowners. And you know, if we pursue it, the accounting company does it. They are good at recovering part of this money through some discussion agencies and things like that. You just have to bring them to court and you know how to bring them to a judge, get a sentence and establish a payment plan, or an extension or something else. So I think this will also help and later we could demolish more houses if we follow this path.

Well, this is a good point, because there are nearby properties and other properties with which we have come into contact and whose owners do not live in the vicinity, do not live in the vicinity. It doesn't matter the property, it doesn't matter the zone. And even when you try to have good conversations about, hey, we want to take this away from you tomorrow. Click, reattach. They don't answer, they don't do anything. And it doesn't help us at all. Help them. And I think Gary is right when he says to recover those money, to get them back and this will help to clean up this city. ok this is a second reading public audience so if you want to sit down just for a second I will open the discussion to the public and to anyone who wants to speak in favor or against you have three minutes to speak give us your name address and we will go from there Hi, Greg Giz. I'm from North River Road. I live in the city, 1250 2nd Street. I'm definitely in favor. I remember that about 15 years have passed. I owned a couple of houses. One on Buzze and one on Gatine Street. Actually, I worked with the city. And I paid to demolish them. I didn't know if you were still carrying out such a program. I was struck by 21,000 because when I had those houses demolished, I think you used your excavator and I had to pay for the boxes and I think they were 6,000 at home. So I think they cost 12,000.

And then I think it was Habitat for Humanity, I think it has now built some houses there on those properties.

And it's nice, it has improved the neighborhood. It was in block 12,200 of South Boots and South Gallatin. So it's nice, but I didn't know if that program still exists, but the 21,000 seem to be such a big number.

There are still 6,000 if we do it. As if when you were talking about Greg, we had a guy who was what he was doing. So this is what has helped compared to now. Where is he?

Just trying to make them do it, but when we have to flip them to make them demolish them, okay. Here are the sneakers.

So those come to flip. Okay. Hello, Ryan Howell, 2009, South Branson Street.

If this were subsidized by a local contributor, I would have to say that I am against it because you think that 500,000 dollars could go to owners, landowners, entrepreneurs and well-paid jobs. Much of this elimination of the decline could very well be solved by itself. It seems that it punishes success and rewards failure because it is taken from the pockets of the employees who work hard. And I don't know if this is true solidarity with the community. I don't know how to explain it, but for me it is not real. It is subsidized by the employees. What would be real is that someone from outside, a gentleman, a lady who works hard, comes here and wants to simply buy a piece of land in the city, because there are many opportunities here and, you know, do it yourself. Having said that, if this were to be integrated by subsidies, which I believe happens in part, I don't know. At the local level, I think it is equivalent to digging blood from a stone. Thank you.

Hi, Bill Creek, 1409, Ironwood Drive. I'm definitely in favor, but I had a question that maybe could be taken into consideration. When I was in the Michigan area, especially in Pontiac, when I was district manager for Lowe's, the area of Pontiac sold them in a similar way to what you said to someone who wanted to invest those properties for one dollar a month.

All they had to do was pay to demolish them. I didn't know if it was something you could take into consideration and maybe bring someone who wanted to develop them and create an advantageous situation for everyone.

Ruth and Sumter 809 McAllen Drive There is a property in southern Nebraska and I was scrolling through my photos because I took one last year and I sent it when we were talking about cleaning and that property has been neglected for decades Probably you all know what I'm talking about in the area of 2000. You can't even see the house anymore. It must be a rather pleasant environment for the wildlife and it is a shame for the community and I wonder why different administrations have not tried to make it demolish or clean up or something like that. Moreover, I love, our library is there, the old Jewish temple has vehicles parked on the road that have been there for a year. They are demolishing or restructuring. And I don't know what it is, but there's a big hole next to the building where a lot of weeds grow. I just think we have to stick to our position. They don't intend to clean it up. Take it. Linda Will, 2016 West Fifth Street, definitely in favor of... I wish I didn't have to do it, but the reality is that you do. And so anything you can do to try to recover money is something we talked about when I was in the Board of Works. So yes, pay the money and yes, try to do everything you can to recover it.

michael duke resident of bradford pike block 500 a question actually for the first thing i would say it is important to say hello it is necessary but for the figure indicated by mr I would like to ask Mr Dickerson if he could explain to the public that he would assure the contributors that for every demolition project that is demolished, what is the procedure to engage the demolition worker in a situation like One Source. Is it a demolition race? I imagine that there are public records available to identify the demolition worker for every demolition site. I ask Mr. Dickerson if he can address this issue.

Let's see if there is another audience and then we will make you face it. Is there anyone else from the audience? Ok, I immediately close the public part.

So, to answer the question about the paddling race and how much we have three main paddlers who have the equipment and are able to do We use Dave's excavating, Bragg's, Sullivan's, JTP's. We give everyone the opportunity to do a preventive. Even the smallest, you know, if they call me, they tell me, you have demos on the list.

I can make an offer.

I give them the list and I give them the opportunity to make an offer. But nine times out of ten, you know, when you have your equipment, all the rest, they offer it to you.

And you have to be sure of everything else. And this is a matter of public domain on the offers. When they give you an offer, you can never have made the offer once it has been completed. Here's what he wanted to know if he could.

I think you should. You can get some things. Justin, you can go back to some of the other comments.

I think they are fantastic, but you can discuss a bit of the process as far as how it actually appears for us to enter and take possession of that property. And you know, because there are specific requirements, how the house could seem barred, but if it does not suffer significant damage or openings, things like that, according to the code we cannot actually enter. Take it for yourself.

Can you talk about it a little bit? Do we have any clarifications? Yes, so in the work council we have elaborated a evaluation from a five-star. You know, five is the worst score ever, one that seems bad, but there are no immediate violations of the code. If, as if it were 5 stars, you know, there was a fire and, you know, half of the building is missing, you know, we contact them, we give them a warning, 10 days to get in touch with me. You know what we'll do about it. As I said, if we don't receive comments or anything in response, then we bring it to the work council.

But let's always give the owner of the house the opportunity to, you know, fix it on his own. And now, if a neighbor has someone who lives next to him and says that there are problems, is invaded by the vegetation, has a horrible appearance, is there for a long time, there is a module or something that can send you, they call your office. How can they help you and help your team by talking? informing you about these properties so they are actually inserted in your list so that the process can start we have an app and the city of marion app is called life apps you can go there and post a claim on an unsafe structure then it comes directly to me

And this is material easily accessible to the public in any way, form or aspect.

In this way they can pass, scan the QR code, do anything, get information, look for them on the App Store, download them so when they are driving or in their neighborhood they can do it immediately. You can send photos, comments, everything is necessary.

And as I said, it goes directly to the head of the department who presented the report.

If there are no other discussions, I will consider a motion.

Mr. President, I propose to approve the motion. I want to give Mr. Ford the opportunity to present the motion because he wanted to modify it. I appreciate it very much.

Yes, I would like to present a motion to... ...approve the further amendment 14.96... ...with the clause that 500.000 are directly destined to the elimination and demolition of the Degradation. Can you suspend the rules?

Suspend the rules on this?

Did you understand, Aisha Devi?

Okay, we have a motion by Councilor Fordyce. I support Councilor Kynes. I vote for Núñez.

I vote for Fordyce. I vote for Brown. I vote for McGill. I vote for Marshall.

I vote for Wheaton. I vote for Divi. I vote for McGill.

I will now present a motion for approval. I will now present a motion for approval. I have a motion from Councilor Fordyce.

I support Councilor Whitten.

And I will say this. I know I have it on my cell phone.

It's my Marion app. I used it many times to deliver properties, to cheat and so on. You guys are very reactive and I appreciate it. Thank you guys.

It's very easy to use.

The next point in the agenda is the new general company order 40026.

The change of direction of Second Street. Discussion in the first reading of three options to modify the General Order Tradition No. 95, which turns Second Street into a double-sense road. This is Mike Ruff, administrative and project manager and President of the Commission for Transport.

Hi Mike. Titles keep getting bigger.

You seem more important every year.

And how about FPBC? Who knows what will happen next? It's just a management of things. So thank you for allowing me to come tonight. Most of you have already heard about it or really know what it is. Here, this is the reason why we are here tonight, that is, the closure of First Street. When River Rocks arrived, there was a concern from the public security once... First Street, if it had gone, they would have crossed the Branson Street Bridge and turned into Sumter or Sumter Drive, or go to Grand Street and then return back to Washington Street. So the traffic commission examined it. We had a couple of options that you examined during the traffic commission. We went a little deeper to let you examine the cost of each option and the parking move on Second Street. The traffic commission believes that the first option that is presented to you as an alternative will be the best line of action. We will probably think about it tonight and then in the near future, as the growth of that area progresses, we could think that Second Street must have a double meaning for the whole route. But I would think about facing the question of public safety. I repeat, this is just a discussion. The order is not in front of you and the reason is that there are three alternative ways. I want to make sure we discuss it. I will write the order because if you look at the order existing as it is, is basically a table that indicates which roads are in a unique sense.

So we will just have to modify the table in the order for any decision you make.

I repeat, I have bigger drawings if there are any questions. I repeat, the traffic commission would recommend considering the first alternative, which is to convert Second Street from one-way to double-way between Adams and Branson Street. And again, at a minimum cost of about 5,000 dollars. The biggest concern, as everyone will ask, is that we have a single-way that comes from Nebraska and that will stop at Adams Street. And now if you look at the horizontal signaletics, there is a left turn that is already designed to go north on Adams if you are arriving towards Branson Street and then a straight lane that would continue. So that signaletics would not change. The only thing we should do is the signaletics. I have not seen any of those three candidates, but when we had our public hearing and our meetings with the traffic commission, they were fully aware of what we wanted to do. They were already stipulating a contract with the parking lot next to their building to put their vehicle. So that will be the only area that will be replaced by the parking lot. So, once again, this is for the discussion. If you want to discuss other alternatives, obviously the price will influence everything we do.

But I certainly didn't want to present you with just one alternative and then you could ask me why we didn't take the other one into consideration. So I'll be happy to answer all your questions.

Well, just for fun, what are the other two and the costs? You didn't take them in yours. So, well, I can give you the mic. So, alternative number two.

No, no, no problem.

Alternative number two includes the conversion of Second Street from Boots to Branson. You will lose 21 cars. And there will be 12 left, and the cost for the conversion is 57,024 dollars. 57,024. The third alternative is much more complete. Obviously it takes us from Nebraska Street to Branson Street. And there are a couple of different alternatives within it. Obviously, if we do some work regarding Washington Street, there is a signal there. So we either add forward so that double-sense traffic can be absorbed with a new traffic light. Cost of 62.25 euros. But the result is that 40 cars are lost with 22 cars left. And then the 3A alternative is a complete renewal of the crossing of Washington Street with new lights, new traffic lights and this brings us to about $ 228,000. So the numbers don't change.

Are the $ 238,000 still the ones in Nebraska?

The only thing that changes is the way we signal. If we did a complete update of the signaletics with LED and everything else. Based on growth, things are changing in the center of the city. If we chose the option of 5,000 dollars in comparison, how much time is left before we have to consider the 57,000 dollars? Let's say that obviously the construction of Elevate Marion works and that construction works. We will see what will happen to Washington's Second Street to see if Washington Street will absorb all the traffic and without Second Street you may never have to see it again. But it's still something to give you for later, you have to say ok we examined this and this is more or less the cost. But for now, I think that President Caldwell and I, when we will be in the traffic commission, our main goal at this moment is public safety, because we have lost a road that gave direct access to what we are trying to modify. And it is the less invasive, if we want to call it that.

It removes the least amount of parking. It is the most economical method at the moment. And we could always go beyond in the future if we discovered that it is necessary rather than getting to the bottom and maybe there was no need for it.

That again costs the citizens useless money that they don't need to spend, right? When this, you know, if we take it, you can always do it. The passages are always there. Because if you do it in more phases, you're just changing direction.

And I think that one thing we should pay attention to is the loss of car seats. I mean, as you go up, there are more and more car seats. You know, you've gone from 11 to 40, so I think it would be a good point to start with option 1 and then see how it will end. In my opinion, because the most important thing we need in the center is parking.

They are not in disarray. Here is the alternative option 1, you are losing 7 car seats that, when we had the initial conversations with the candidates, they were the ones who really used that area. People who enter the buildings, most of them are their vans and everything else that they parked down there even during the night and used the parking lot on the other side of the road, at a certain point that now belongs to River Rock. So they lost, they lost everything.

And he said he didn't have any problems with it. Kennedy didn't have any problems with it. He was already in agreement. So, correct. Yes, we have fixed everything with Pledge. It's the minimum number of car places we have.

And again, it's a discussion. So, what would I do? Can I report it? Can we report it as a first reading, if you want? Or you can suspend your rules, make the order, allow me to report the order. In the second reading, if this is the... I will do it in both ways. First reading.

Mike, what is the timing for all the different options?

Well, obviously, the alternative is that I have to bring a car here to get rid of the stop bars and some arrows that have already been lowered.

It's very simple.

I could literally do the signaletics and do the rest in about a month. Now, the more we work, the more signal we need to remove the parking and then we enter, if we enter in Washington Street. Now we are talking about a signal that takes a lot more time. So I would say that in a month, once one of the two alternatives is approved, we could have it ready and working.

Mike, you are saying that, fundamentally, from the point of view of public safety, you are talking about allowing people to drive on the second street instead of having to go from Branson to the third to Adams.

Well, in reality, now, if they go north, they go to Branson, they have to cross the bridge. So they will either enter a private property, because Souter is not a city road, or they will have to go to Grant and then go back.

Go back or in the opposite direction and then go up on the third. Exactly. So only that block eliminates all this.

And what we lost with the stones of the river. So we are just moving from north to south.

I need clarification. So tonight, when we move on to the second reading and the public hearing, we can simply approve it as it is, obtain the contribution of the public. And then, at that point, during the second reading and the public hearing, make a motion to choose the alternative plan.

As we want you to agree, this is what we are discussing tonight. If you are all in favor of the alternative, I will report it to you in an order so that Deb can not leave the public hearings to the traffic commission. The geeks were there, they were not in favor of the entire closure. I think they were comfortable with this option. They are one of the few streets interested. So we really did the work of preparation for you with this option. So, but I guess I wanted to show you what would be the total cost for the future if you know what you are going against if you go on afterwards. You can do whatever you want. You can move on to the second reading and the public hearing and talk about everything. This is your option. I'm just trying to save you some work. So our option is if we present this motion we can present it. So it only concerns section 1, option 1. And I found it and I apologize anyway. Or we present it when you come. I'll be here anyway. So if you want everyone to comment, if 90% of people said to make the whole thing bi-directional, then Next reading, I will return with the order that says bidirectional throughout the course. Or if we mention that we present the motion for option 1, but we leave out the mentions of the other two outside the motion, then people could have the possibility of saying something rather than Having an entire speech dedicated to option 1 and a speech on option 2 is an option. I'm thinking too much.

Well, I think what Dave is saying and what Mike is saying is...

They are talking to you about how we can talk to them again, as has already been done to the traffic commission.

where the public has already spoken about it, or we make a decision and say that option 1, based on what the professional claims to be the best at the moment, do we agree or not? If not, we must review the entire issue. We think that option 2, alternative 2, 3 are the best at the moment for the city, then we carry it on based on what we say. The reason why we have presented it to you in this way is that you discuss it. I'm not asking you to do it if you don't want to. If you want to send the question to another first reading and then I'll do it that way. But I don't have an order yet to present. This is the key.

Correct me if I'm wrong. It hadn't been presented to the council last year, right? And then we archived it.

Because we're trying to figure out which direction we're going.

And Mike, did I get it right? The number 2 is 57,000 plus the number 3, 62,000. 3A is a quarter of a million. Exactly.

And each alternative option shows you the distribution of what I mean. And the biggest part of everything that has been said, and the kits were part of it, the initial conversations were about the loss of parking spaces.

Here's what it all comes down to. So the traffic commission is recommending the optional option again.

Exactly. Okay, fine.

So, if that's the case, we could make this option important, but not yet urgent, right? Well, we're getting close to that point, because the construction of River Rock is getting very close. well what I want to say is to invite you to come back to rewrite this as an order in particular the section 1 I am responsible for I want to say it will take two weeks no no no absolutely right michael two weeks will not make a big difference I just need to be able to bring the equipment to line up the lines of demarcation of the lanes that are out of place, you know, without exposing me to the cold. I mean, all the rest can be set to the cold.

Absolutely. So it's just a reissue of the actual General Order. I'm correct, General Order Deb. How do you read the first one? We can discuss it.

so if you feel more at ease in this way we could do it and then modify it as you know I don't know how you want to do it and I will submit it to marty to make sure that the language is because now you don't have it so I'll punish you but I think I'm an idiot in this

So what we are presented with tonight is not an order.

No, it was a discussion. Even if you say a general order. You are modifying a discussion to modify the general order of 1995. All right. Thank you, thank you for the clarification. You were not the first to ask this question.

I guess I wasn't smart enough to understand. I admit. So?

We don't have a way to make an order. No, it was just... Why not three or two weeks? We'll have it... ...in the form of an order. We have to do something and we're just... ...discussing about having been... ...discussed. Here. Yes. All right. No one.

This is the order of the day tonight. There is someone who has communications.

Otherwise, I will make a motion to suspend.

I propose then.

Okay, I have a motion to update the councilor Keine, supported by who, guys? Councilor Klein. Open.

Yes.

Yes. Marshall. Divina.