Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

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No lawyer too. Uh our deputy city attorney's online. Okay. Just want to make sure. Hi. All right. Commissioner Baron, Commissioner Rana, Comm Vice Chair Walton here, Chair Woodson here, Commissioner St. John here, Commissioner Cheg here, and Commissioner Jacobson today. You have quorum. Chair Woodson.

Thank you. Right. Uh, do a moment of silence and I think. All right. Next up is we have special announcements or communications from the floor. Do we have any special announcements? We have We don't even have mice. Okay. No mice. Mice. We have no buttons. We have We have the plan. Plan each. Would you like to speak to them?

I'm later on. You guys can keep going. Try it. Seth, would you like to say anything? Just like all right now, next up is exparte communications for quite judicial matters. Anybody from commission say? Nope. Right. Okay. Okay, next up um thing we have is this presentation and proclamation for price share. So why don't we all go down front up come down to the front. It's very simple. We've done this before. Out of your chairs. like

come behind me. Behind me like this. There we go. Now we've got it. Okay. Do that later. All right. So, we'll finish this. So, this is our last meeting with Vice Chair Walton. Vice Chair Walton and which is him. So, today is our last meeting with Vice Chair Walton who is not extending her time on the planning commission today. So the in honor of her years of service is years of service. Um do you guys know how long five years? Whereas author Woodson starting her author Woodson we are now my gosh I can't read. I'm going to start over. Proclamation honor would not be happy about that.

Sorry not here. honoring Vice Chair Autra Walton for her time on the Marina Planning Commission. Whereas Atra Walton started her service on the planning commission on February 2021. It has been 5 years and will end her service on January 2026. And whereas Commissioner Walton has served as vice chair of the planning commission. And whereas Commissioner Walton has been a strong advocate for equity and justice on the planning commission and whereas Commissioner Walton was instrumental in ensuring the fifth and sixth cycle elements were approved by the city in an expeditious manner. Big word we don't. And whereas Commissioner Walton has consistently been a diversity, equity, and inclusion advocate while on the planning commission, ensuring projects and policies represent the rich cultural diversity of the city of Marina. Now, therefore, be it resolved that I, Glenn Woodson, chair of the City of Marina Planning Commission, do hereby express my sincere appreciation and gratitude for Audrey Walton's dedication and commitment to the city and congratulate and wish her the best and continued service in her future endeavors. Dated this 22nd of day of January, 2026, signed by me.

Thank you. very much. All right. So, we have to get a picture now.

Thank you all. Okay, next up we have the consent agenda which is approval of the minutes from January 8th. Are there any changes that any of the commissioners have to the minutes? Okay. If not, um you take a vote.

Uh oh, no. Make a motion. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody like to make a motion on the minutes. Hey, Commissioner Chang makes a motion. I'll second. Okay. And Vice Chair Walton seconds. There we go. Very good. Uh, Commissioner Baron. Commissioner Rana. Yes. Vice Chair Walton. Yes. Chair Woodson. Yes. Commissioner St. John. Yes. Commissioner J. Yes. Motion passes. Thank you.

All right. Next up, we have one public hearing today or on the agenda. that is for the new Marina mini mark conditional use permit um had been continued. So we don't even have that today. So I can I can't read. So that will be next month. Uh technically you're supposed to make a motion to continue it because the the theory is that a member of the public should be able to pull up the agenda and the minutes and say, "Oh, where did this item end up?" And it's going to end up on the February or the again it says February. Would somebody like to make a motion?

Let me I'll make a motion to continue the mini marked conditional use permit item until the next meeting on February 12th 2026. Okay. Okay. We have a second. Good. Uh, Commissioner Baron, Commissioner Rada, Vice Chair Walton, yes. Commissioner Chair Woodson, yes. Commissioner St. John, yes. Commissioner Chang, yes. Motion passes.

Okay. All right. Next up isformational items. We have three items that Guido is going to cover today. Guido, I'll turn it over to you.

Thank you. And first of all, I just want to say normally the the commissioners who've been with with me for a while know that if if I have a super light agenda, I don't make you guys come here. But this one is actually uh mission critical. Um we're applying for a $4.5 million grant to clean up part of Cypress Nles. We applied last year. Uh we hired a new consulting firm to maybe beef up our points. And a a grant requirement is you have to have a public meeting before you re apply for the grant. I did this last year to the council. Uh but the timing didn't work out because I was still working on the grant. Anyways, so you guys are gracious enough to be here today. So um so unfortunately this is a procedural requirement. So I really appreciate you volunteering your time. Um so just a little bit of background of what this is the Cypress Null site. It's basically when you're driving down Immunen, um behind the VTC, um behind uh MCWD, there's a huge acre. It's 188 acres. It used to be military housing. Back in 0809, there actually was an EIR for about 844 senior housing units. There was some litigation. The developer dropped out. Um, so the site does contain an existing road system. There are remnants of former Fort Housing. Um, there is natural topography out there and there is endangered Gileia out there further complicating this. That's for another conversation. Um, so if the city was being lazy and just wanted to make a bunch of cash, we could have probably found 20 developers to sell this to and made a whole bunch of money. But it's been a a kind of a charge of the city to do the harder

route, which is uh let's try to make this a missing middle housing project. Uh in the general draft general plan, which this commission will look at later this year, there is policy language in there as well to say we want to make this a missing middle housing project for anywhere to,500 to 2,000 units for, you know, workingass folks, firstear firemen, police officers, teachers, that kind of thing. Um, the problem is all of those old army barracks are full of asbestous and lead. And unlike a normal house on a normal street here, you can't just demo these barracks because they have all this contamination in them. You have to do all these special procedures to deconstruct it, then tear it down, then bring it to special landfills. All of that adds to the costs. And so it's a pretty significant amount of money. Um so the last couple years we've just been trying to apply for grants. So that that's where we are as of today. So if you guys recall in 2223 we had the APA committee come and we had a joint meeting with the council to talk about the visioning. That visioning document is on the city website. Um I then applied for REAP money from Amag. We were unsuccessful with that. Congressman Jimmy Panetta came out to visit the site. His staff was instrumental in connecting us with some EPA folks. Um, as part of his efforts, we got a $300,000 targeted grant and we already knew the site was contaminated, but this just helped us. um they took samples from about 64 properties and it was confirmed that there was higher levels of lead and other stuff

around the building and presumably for the rest of the property. Um so we applied last fall for a cleanup grant. We were unsuccessful. Um there was only one given out for all of region 9, which is all of the western states. And in order to score, you had to getund 167 points out of like 172. It's like basically a perfect score. Um, so Lane, the city manager, was like, "Hey, why don't we try this other firm that our public works director has had success with. I've been working with them. Hopefully, we can get our points up." Uh, but with only one being given through the whole western region, it's, you know, we'll see how that goes. So, working with the US EPA staff, they were like, "Hey, you need to do another community meeting." It's like, "Well, we already did one." No, you need to do that one this year. So, grants due next week. So, that's why you're here. Um, yes, the US, it's a brownfield critical initiative grant. Um, only 10 are given out nationwide. It's really done to perform hazardous material abatement. Um, and if we can get the grant, then we can hopefully use it as a springboard to get other grant funding to help clean up the Cypress Null's area. Somebody's texting me to make sure it's not the deputy city attorney. Okay, sorry. No. Um, so really that's why we're here. I'm glad to answer any questions and then there's really not a formal role per se of the planning commission just to have the forum and obviously we have tons of people in the audience wanting to speak on this and being sarcastic. Um so really just here to answer any questions and um yeah look forward to having some dialogue about this.

But my first one was and I'm guessing the answer is no. Did EPA actually sit down and give any type of book or assessment to anybody?

They did. They were very actually gracious with their time. Um there were some they couldn't speak to us at some times because it was still during the contract period when they gave it to other people. But after that period, they actually sat down and gave us some good insight which uh I gave to the second grant writing team. Um it was a little bit more about explain a little bit more in detail the need and um how it fits in with the overall plan for the city and how um you know what kind of resources have had to be expended. Um because as the commission's aware, I've been here four years and the whole time I've been here, it's been a pretty significant issue with homeless unhoused folks um burning down some of these buildings um to get different metals or whatnot or copper wire. Um and then the fire and police department have to expend quite a bit of resources to go out there. Um so we were able to put that that kind of data together. So hopefully that helps us with our points this time. So

the only other one I have is did the given the change in the administration did the application itself change in formatting and it did change significantly. That's what I thought. I just wonder um there was quite a bit in last year's grant application during the previous administration about demonstrating how the grant would affect different income levels. There was a DEI section of the grant that got taken out. There were two or three other parts, but those are the ones that come to mind. So, okay. Any other commissioners have questions?

Sure. I'm hoping that you with respect to our congressman, can can you give us a little some details into what he's done to help with or assist with outside of his staff and what you were just explaining about the grant. What else? What advocacy work has he done in in helping us? Can you can you just give us

um so the congressman was been very helpful. Uh his staff connected us with some of the higher upper management at the US EPA. Um that $300,000 uh grant that we got to further verify the contamination. That was very helpful to help bolster our points. Uh we were able to get some letters of support good um from his office that we added. So they've been very helpful.

Well, I'm hoping that he continues to be helpful and even more helpful in the future. Ninja as a uh last time I'm going to be up here. Bless you. The last time I'm going to be up here, I just wanted to make sure that our congressman is is absolutely helping and assisting Marina in every single way, shape, and form. Especially with cypress. Yeah. Thank you. Yes. Yeah. For these 64 deteriorating properties, how much money are we looking for? How much? I'm sorry.

For this particular task, moving 64 barracks, how much money are we looking for? Um the maximum grant amount is about 5 million. So we're trying to get as much of that as we can. So 5 million for destroying B65

that is substantial amount of money. I mean a house a new house um coming up in place of these uh okay I think uh I limit yeah okay

yeah that is my concern that um a million dollars just to kind of clean up but I do that Well, yeah. So, and just like I said, if uh you and two commissioners just went to go get a bulldozer, it wouldn't cost that much to knock out these homes. But because they're full of lead and asbestous and all these other contaminated dirt that that's why it costs so much because we have to offhaul and I don't know the exact amount but like 18 inches of dirt around all of these sites and then each building you have to take apart almost by hand some parts of the buildings and then you have to put a tent around some of them if because you don't want the asbestous to be released

when you demo it. So all of that and then once that's all done, then you can't just bring it to the landfill down the street. You have to take it to special landfills that um dispose of the material. Um so to answer your question, it is a lot of money. Um but but that's because of all of those extra procedural steps. though actually it's a low it's a low amount continuing we had similar issues with some of the other for localities and uh did we really kind of spend that kind of money for cleaning

uh yes somehow I I I was some of that was before my time I'd have to go back and look that's just that's why I'm asked that's that's why I said what I said about the congressman and and all that because that's actually. So, if you haven't been in that, the homes, last time I was back in that neighborhood was probably two and a half years ago.

I don't think very few of the homes at this point still have their ceilings in place. Um, most of them over 30 years of occupancy have gotten to the point where ceilings have now failed and all the insulation in those homes was blown. And so that means that all the insulation at this point, which is friable insulation, is now pretty much sitting one 6 in to 18 in deep in the hallways and in the especially in the hallways areas. And that came about because over the last 30 years, and it's accelerating over the last 10 years especially, the theft of materials has accelerated. And so they've pretty much stripped all the homes of of every bit of copper wiring. All anything that would draw a profit has now been stripped out of those homes.

And in the process, they they don't care where they get the wire. They just need to pull the wire. So they'll just they've just been ripping it apart. I mean, it is I think the first time I ever went back there was probably 15 years ago, and it was still in relatively good shape. Um, it is absolutely not at this point. And I think the entire construction cost last time I saw was was running around 28 million. Yeah. And I'm assuming that that's actually gone up probably slightly probably. And it's just it's just going to get worse. And so um sorry.

No, it's fine. is just going to increase. And if Bora and our congressmen at the time and several other people in leadership positions had moved differently, we might not be sitting here the way that we are with all of that. But we didn't. And fora has been sunsetted and we have a new congressman, right? We had a whole new city council from way back then. Um, and I'm so proud of the city staff and the amount of um projects that you guys have been able to streamline, make easier, make make it so uh what is it called? uh user interfaces um have become accessible to a larger amount of people and I'm really excited to see what you guys are going to be able to do with Cypress Nolles and um I really really hope that um you receive this grant. I know that it's a drop in the bucket of the amount of money that's necessary to clean up Cypress Nles and and to make it uh ready for a developer to come and put in its bid. But kudos and congratulations from getting for getting this and I appreciate you.

Thank you. I'm trying anything else. It's okay. Said Woodson earlier, so Um, Commissioner Chang. All right. Thank you, Ch. Uh, director Quindel, I have four questions. Um, number one is the, uh, grant you're applying is 5 million, right? Yeah. And the cleanup cost is 12.9 to 13.5. Yeah.

So, how you going to cover the little things? Well, when we started this process two years ago, and I don't know if it's changed because it administrative change, but they did tell us that if we're able to get the first batch, that makes us competitive for the next batch. So hopefully that that's and then hopefully the idea is if we can get this money then that could spur us to get other grant funding and maybe state opportunities or, you know, take it from there. So, Yeah. Any plan B in case if the grant you didn't get it?

Yeah. If we don't get it this time, then I'll probably have to talk to the city manager and then we'll have to we'll have to there are different opportun there are me districts you can create. There are community facility districts that you can create. There are different ways. But even on the community facility districts, the city has to put in a little bit of seed money to kick off a financing district to get this done. And I don't know, that's more of a city manager type decision, not a little bit above my level. So yeah, so that would be plan B.

Okay. I hope you could get it. The u the other question I know is cleaning up the old bars is a very difficult task because a lot of haz material. Yeah. And uh you have to be contained instead of exposing when they demolish it. It cannot be just in the open air. That's my understanding. Yeah. And the So I believe you have a clean up plan when you get it.

Uh yeah, that'll all be part of the you know, if we get the funds, we'll work with the contractor. They specialize in this stuff. And also in this plan you are building about 1,500 to 2,000 units of uh houses and um and the thing is there are that that's a big growth in that area and um how about the infrastructure capacity that we had able to cope up with this additional houses.

Yeah. So that that would be kind of further down the road if we can get the funds to clean up the site. That's kind of phase one. Um and then we would have to spend some money to do a master plan, like a general plan for that area, right? Um and then whoever we end up partnering with, there would have to be some pretty significant upgrades to the infrastructure because all that infrastructure out there is now 31 years old, right? Right. So that all gets factored into what gets built and how and so yeah

that's why it's not just only this program but I think it going to affect the whole infrastructure of the city and we have to look at a master plan again. Right. Right. And uh so and and just to for the rest of the commission um we will be bringing the draft general plan policies to the commission later this year and there are specific policies in there that speak to what commissioner changing which is um the city will endeavor to prepare a master plan and look at ways to support missing mental housing that will be codified in the in the future general plan as well. So, and the last one is I'm I want to know is what kind of timeline you're looking at.

Um, so last year we applied around this time and we didn't find out until May or June. It took a while for the feds to get back to us. So, you finished the whole program. Do you have any final idea how long? Uh, I thought it was you had to expend the money within 3 to 5 years, but I I I'm I'm I'm so focused on just applying for the grant. If we're fortunate to get it, then I I'll have better idea. I thought it was you had to expend within, you know, reasonable period of time, but So,

anything else we could do to help you to get the grants? Um yeah, without getting too political, I mean we are in California right now in terms of federal money that affects money that goes to different states. So yeah, thank you. So

that's all I have. Thank you, Chair Guido. Just to follow up a little bit on the the discussion, the the grant would be a maximum available of 5 thou 5 million. 5 million,

right? And the the estimated the the current estimate of cleanup cost, restoration cost, the hazardous situation for the whole 188 acres in the in the handout, you had about 13 million. Yeah. Yeah. But is that 2026 or that's the that was the estimate from when we applied last year. So it might have gone up by a little bit. Okay. Yeah.

So it's it is in the in the ballpark of 13 to 15. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. Would clean up this site. Um, I have to go back and where we because it's actually 50 to 80,000 per unit to clean up and there's 200 out there. So, I'd have to do that math. So, yeah. So, so the long story is this doesn't get us to the full goal, but as I mentioned to the ballpark of almost cleaning it up. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah.

Yeah. So there so right now so when I started with the city there were 220 barracks out there and when I first started they had demoed 20 of them and I can't remember. Oh I think that was for the hay circle project and now we're down to 200. Um, so that if we can get money for the 64, then we're not quite halfway there, but we would make some progress, right? And then, as I mentioned, when we met with the US EPA folks two years ago, they had said getting the money makes you more competitive for the next batch of grant funding. Now let me go back in history probably before your time but maybe you have some insight for say Haven was there any cleanup required in Sea Haven and was that part and parcel of the contractor's responsibility or did the city have to do the cleanup? That was a little bit of a commissioner Woodson might have took care of it. So there were so to kind of get some background on the entire area now the

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eastern edge northern edge of the city that actually is all this housing. So that subdivision started at that reservation pretty much and then ran all the way to one. Okay. that ran against the back boundary line of Portward. When Port closed, that area was subdivided out into into smaller neighborhoods. So, Screwover went to CSUMB. So, that's the the southern side of Indian. So, that's all the CSUMB owns. And uh student housing and faculty housing. The north, south, and northern side is what the city owns and rents out and manages. And then that picks up, right? And then that picks up at what is now Se Haven,

that had I mean when we first moved here 10 years ago, that hadn't started. There were still quads that were sitting across the entire neighborhood. So they the developer pulled all the network built into their cost just like the dunes with the barracks on Second Avenue.

That's right. This is Cypress Nolles is a secondary area that if we turn it over to the developer, yes, a developer could build it into their costs to do. Um, we I'm speaking a little bit out of time probably for context, but um the city because the city wanted to maintain more direct control over how that property is going to be used, we have also by default and therefore maintain the housing responsibilities. And so that's where we're at now. So it could go to a new developer. The challenge that I think we run into in today's environment years ago is that when Sea Haven and the Dunes those were built into the sight specific plans,

right? And we don't have a sight specific plans for our site. So we would have to create one and then it will be the better marketing to get what we want. It would be better to have it. Yeah. Right. And then and then they the chair what's in the reminding me that there was some blight funding for removal after Ford or left but I believe that's been expended as part of the dunes NC haven it was project that's my understanding from talking to Karen Tedman

frankly travis department of defense unloaded all the installation and and is it not just across the country or did you have The challenge for is that Fort had the largest housing area in all department of defense at the time. So this was their biggest problem. And one of the there were three things that that led to its closure and put on the breakfast list um four things. Number one um department of defense was told the army was told you will close a major installation. So they had to close a post and and so they narrowed it down. So that was a criteria. But then the two biggest things here were the airfield wasn't long enough to support the readiness brigade mission. So they couldn't now today they could get C7s in here but those hadn't come on yet and and they really didn't want to do that. So um so the the hall mission was a big criteria. The housing though was the number two criteria because the housing was all mostly weary housing that was built under Senate the Senate weary Senate appropriations bills in the 1950s as homes had gone through two or three iterations of redevelopment. In fact, they went through a set in the late 80s. Um the challenge is that those only had a 20 year lifespan before they were 20 to 30 years before they need to be refurbished again. and the army looked at that scale and said that that is a scale that they did not want to take on as a burden. Now, there's an argument of whether that was fictitious or not, but it's irrelevant. That's actually what they chose. So the the cost of living in Monterey indirectly is what caused it there because there just aren't enough there weren't there weren't enough community homes in the area to support a a garrison division requirement of 27,000 soldiers.

If you have been back there, what what does the army call field training exercise? FTX. So, so, so back in the day when this was a live base um since we're in history, the when they would have those field training exercises and the live uh uh bobbing runs and all, oh my god, it was so loud here in the night. and and I'm sad and happy that you guys all got to miss living through the sounds of FTX training on Ford.

There was all sorts of cool stuff. This is not for tonight. We could probably have a history lesson afterwards and we can get a historian to come in and talk to the commission about the history of would be kind of neat. Yes. Do I can Yeah, if you guys have you can I'm from Michigan. You can zoom in. That's fine. you're a member of the public if if the commission has some context to let me know. I would be glad I would actually learn from that experience as well. It's actually really interesting like the latest one that I'm doing. Are there any other comments that they want to add? Can I Why don't you go ahead and finish? Okay.

Guido changing gears a little bit but staying on Cypress nose. Yeah. I within the last three or four years, we've had public uh workshops, a couple of them to my memory. Uhhuh. At least two where the public was invited to spend some time. It was in the in the community community building. Yeah. Right on this this uh campus.

Yeah. and I I attended those and we developed some very broad community input into concepts of what the plan general plan for Cypress Nles could be. And this was just a start to hand off to a planning firm firm. Yeah. Did that go any further?

Absolutely. So, as as I've mentioned in the draft general plan that you guys are going to be looking at, all that language, all that community input will be in the draft general plan that you guys will look at. And if you know bar barring any major edits that stuff will stay in the general plan and that will become the kind of land use constitution for and the the draft general plan map which you and the council approved last this time last January in the draft map it shows Cypress Nolles and in on the map I can show you in my office it shows Cypress Null's master plan. So the whole vision is captured

captured and yeah. Okay. Then I would like to propose that we have a plan C. If plan A is to do the get the funding from the federal government to clean it up, which is sounds like it might take two or three iterations of that if Yeah. truly into the 20 or $30 million ballpark,

right? uh and we could only chop it off at the most as five billion a year from that grant. Anyway, so plan I forgot exactly what plan B was. So um so what so so so right now the options are apply for the grants, right? The other options are to create a community financing district which is basically Just bond money. Bond money basically. Right. Put the burden on the the city general.

Yeah. Right. But with the bond measure going now, it's not likely to go for several years. So So anyway, maybe a plan C would be to bite the bullet and and let it be built into a contractor's cost. Okay. because we probably could get more than one contractor interested in that 188 acres.

I think the city is actually already it's already budgeted as part of that this the community sessions two and three years ago priority they did prioritize some of the cleanup over time. I mean I think they had a goal of 2035 to get it all done which is amazing and fast how quick that's going to come because we're 10 years out and it was 13 years before. Yeah. Uh so I think yes to all this to keep this on track not that I don't enjoy talking about this because I do things like this subject I want to this is about the brownfield proposal so okay

um and also because I can also feel myself starting to to no wise I'm pretty wasted today I'll close off thank you okay but no but commissioner St. John, I do appreciate the input and if you want some further, we can s just swing by the office and we can definitely brainstorm and yeah and then maybe we can actually bring this up as a topic of discussion just opening one in a future meeting.

Absolutely. the next couple months where it's actually geared towards Cypress Null's development versus just this because it is a big it is our last Cypress Nolles will be our last big it is our probably our last big major development period in the city now that we got Sea Haven and heights and we've got everybody and dunes and yeah I I would I would benefit and I think the commission would if we were to have a maybe later in the year if the commission wants some type of cypress personal study session cuz in addition to the cleanup issues, there's Gileia out there. Y

right. And then layered on top of that is this they updated the surplus land act. So the city owns the property and if we want to do anything with it, we have to go through this very strict state law procedure of if we were say to partner with a developer to build it, we have to go through this very strict process of we have to tell people the land's available then they have to bid on it and it's a we have to confer with the state on it. So there's actually the reason why it's hasn't been developed is there it's a very complex project. So I think the commission would benefit from some type of layered discussion later in the year. Okay. Like end of April.

Sure. Calendar. And as part of that, can we also include the piece of open space that's between I guess third and fourth street where the old shop that gas station was. That's kind of an open area. Basically, it's that little carve out of that little if you look at the map. That's fine.

It's that to the rest of the group, it's that little triangle at the bottom right over here that's kind of carved out. That's an open space area. Um that was part of the cleanup that was an old shopet. That was the shopet, one of the two shopets in the neighborhood and gas station and that's been remediated, but we can also kind of talk about why that isn't part of the site. Beautiful. It's all just open. It's an open space. Anyway, yeah, we can do that. We'll talk about the whole property, the whole region, the whole area. Um, that gets into the he's also pointing to the area west on the burn and that gets into the second avenue development and that was originally slotted to go through there. So, initially the second avenue is supposed to come up and over and then cut back down and that's kind of died on the vine at this point. All right. Um any no further comments? Can I ask something?

Yeah, go ahead. Thank you, Chair. No question, but I just want to say something. The um you know that over here they say the city intend to develop the site into missing middle housing to provide up to 1500 to 2,000 residents that are affordable for middle income workers and family. Yeah, I think that is a great vision. I think the community need to know the city has done a very good job making you know thinking of those middle income family. Yeah. And make housing affordable. Not every city will do that. I think I think the city of Marina is taking the like to see the city of Marina taking the lead on this.

Yeah. not to give it to developer to come in and um so I I just want to say thank you to you um director Kundo for doing this and well comes from the city manager and the city council they they're providing that leadership like I said if they wanted to make a whole bunch of cash they would just sell it each property would be worth $2 million and it would just look like every other city on the peninsula here but the city manager and the city council have a vision to make this something for our missing middle folks. So

well I hope this will set a good example for other city as well because in the city planning I think a lot of time we forgot about the uh affordable housing for medium income or lowinccome family. Yeah. Thank you.

No problem. Uh the next items are very simple. Um every year I come to you guys in January to go over kind of the work plan for housing relevant items. The last three years I probably have brought gosh nine or 10 different actions. But you guys are so awesome and the council's been so supportive. you'll no we just had to have the meeting. That was it. Um it's okay as long as we have the meeting. Um so if you go past the presentation, it's in the packet of housing element action items. The commission and council have been so supportive. We're actually down to the last handful of and we're only four years into housing element. So we're we're doing good work. um we'll go over with you guys. So, we'll be bringing with um um so we do have a lot of uh faith-based and institutional properties in Marino that those are usually very large properties um that could be ripe for affordable housing. So, I've been working with Rencon. They've done this in other cities where if a church agrees that their property wants to be part of our project, then potentially we could pre-zone the site and there could be affordable housing on the property. And if you turn the page, uh, program 2.3, this one is the one that Bryce presented to you guys, um, that I need to take to council that just identifies what are some more cost effective ways to build housing. So, that one will be taken to council soon. Next page is I need to update our BMR

policies to ensure that people have the first right of refusal and right of return um for their units. And then 9.2 is actually a really important policy I'll be bringing to you guys probably later in the year. Um identifying things we can do to make sure people are not displaced from our city. Um, and uh, Zach, our intern who's now left us, um, he helped do a lot of the research here. A lot of this is really important. So, like if you're um, if you're an elderly person, um, one thing that can displace somebody is maybe um, they need a ramp or they need a little minor home repair. So proposing potentially a minor home repair program that we could partner with the county on. That's a way to not displace elderly people um to keep them in their home. Um so there's other strategies you can do to have anti-displacement. Um so yeah, very few items for this upcoming year and I'll be bringing these items to you guys in the next six to nine months. So

just just one question on the the last item you you talked about the displaced anti-displacement right it it dawned on me that there were was a a uh permit that we approved in the last year and a half or two years on Delmi to build two large apartment units mighty beach and beach area. Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. But in that in that

property there was existing maybe a dozen residential old old rundown residential units. Yeah. And and those were going to be demolished and the new apartments were going to be built. Did the does that fall into displaced that's exactly the kind of stuff. So like an anti-displacement strategy could be which I've used in other cities is those folks who are units are being demolished would get they would have first right to those new units. So that's the kind of stuff that we can do to help support people. Okay. Okay. I just wanted to clarify that.

Yeah. So that's the kind of stuff. Right. Good. And other stuff I've used in other cities is if you're a renter having access to uh when I worked in East Palo Alto and East Palo Alto Legal Aid Society or so if you're a tenant and you want to know what your rights are being able to go get some free legal advice. So we wouldn't run that. We would just have that as a you know a policy that you know we would connect people to that resource. So,

so thank you. Um, my heart's beating real fast, so I'm I'm I'm pausing to say this, but with respect to the long-term residents of Preston Abrams Park

and um displacement. Um, I I hope that that the city I would like not hope I would like for the city to to make sure that they are sensitive to the long-term residents that have invested heavily into um into rentals that they'll never be able to pull equity out of. Right. and they're there, but the city the city leadership has, and you can stop me if I'm moving in the wrong direction here, but the city has said a lot of disparaging things from this diet about the long-term residents. And with respect to a displacement strategy, I think while you're working on this, maybe review those um moments when the city was speaking on Crescent Park um and bake something into that displacement strategy so um people aren't feeling pushed out of Marina the way that my family does.

Okay. And we can certainly talk offline for more details, but yes, that's the kind of stuff that we want to be respectful of people. Thank you. Yeah, sure. Sorry. Um the last page of the agenda, program 1.2. Oh, oh, those are some minor ones. Yeah. um pretty good team and better understanding AB397 and what specifically I need to do and this program was supposed to be completed in 2024. Yeah, I'm a little bit behind on that one. So, is there any

I it was just an oversight on my part. So, I'm I'll be working with our deputy city attorney to kind of better understand that law and kind of what I need to do to kind of get that one get that one back on track. Okay. Yeah, the second question is on the U program 2.5 2.5 2.5 the and do you see any uh legal challenges on this?

Oh, I can't speak. I mean Se could speak on I mean anything I do is up for legal but for this stuff I mean I mean we're doing something to support people. Well, it's we're not in an adversarial position per se, but anything I do can be can be challenged. So, yeah. Just in case there is, I think at least you know how to address it, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's Thank you.

Yep. So, like I said, I always bring this to you guys. it kind of actually helps me stay organized and then you're aware of kind of the policies that we'll be bringing and then we'll talk about them and then we'll kick them up to council hopefully for approval. So that's it. Okay. All right. Commissioner Baron. Commissioner Rana.

Yes. Commissioner Walton. Yes. Chair Woodson. Yes. Commissioner St. John. Yes. Commissioner P Chang. Yes. Motion passes. Thanks. Congratulations. elevating. Now you get to sit and go down have to sign everything. So uh next up is announcements. Uh no announcements at this time. Correspondence. No correspondence. And that would be that would be a journment and I will use this because I get to Yay.