City Council - Regular Meeting

recording stopped. Recording in progress. Tuesday, December.

Good afternoon. Today is Tuesday, December 2nd, 2025. This is a regular meeting of the city of Marina Council. Uh, Anita, can we please get a roll call? Council member McAdams, here. Council member McCarthy here. Council member Biala, here. Mayor Pertam Viser here. Mayor Delgato. Thank you. Uh, city attorney, are there any changes to the closed session agenda? Uh, hi Mayor Prom. No, there are no changes to the close session agenda.

Thank you very much. And we'll open it up to the public in the room or on Zoom. Seeing none, we close public comments and we will go into close session and we will reconvene here at 6:30 p.m. Thank you. Recording stopped.

Our first matter of business is rather administrative only. It won't excite too many people. Okay. Uh, Jenny's here. So, uh, like to call to order a special meeting for the Marina Joint Powers Financing Authority. Can we have a roll call, please? Anita.

Council member McCarthy here. Council member McAdams here. Council member Biala here. Uh, Mayor Pretend Bisher here. Mayor Dada here. So the only thing on our agenda is sort of to allow us to move forward with whatever actions we take regarding the Preston Park loan. So this is a different hat that we wear at the moment compared to what we'll be wearing in a few minutes. So this is the Marina Joint Powers Financing Authority and we have a resolution in front of us. Uh who's like to uh which staff would like to frame this for us?

I can do it. So yes, the resolution merely uh is a resolution you need to adopt in order to set uh the regular meeting of the Marina Joint Powers Authority. Uh that resolution sets December 16th, 2025 as a regular meeting of the governing governing board of the Marina Joint Powers Financing Authority. All right. I'll motion that we approve the resolution ahead of us in front of us and authorize the officers of the authority to take all actions necessary to implement the purpose of the resolution which is as our city attorney has just described. Second,

any public comment on this matter? We'll start with the folks that are here in the room. Anyone wishing to rise and speak, please do so. Seeing none, we'll go online. Everybody online, you're welcome to speak to this matter. Please raise your hand and we'll call on you. We'll give you a moment before we close public com. Okay, we'll close public comment. All in fa any questions or feedback before we vote? Okay. All in favor, please say I. I.

All oppose, please say no. All right. That motion passes and we will adjourn that special meeting. And now we'll reopen our regular Marina City Council meeting for December 2nd for which we met at 5:00 to start our close session and we've been in close session since then for the most part. City attorney Renee Ortega, can you explain what we did in close session?

Uh, yes. Uh thank you mayor. So in close session council provided direction and with respect to item 4 A2 voted to form a subcommittee ad hoc subcommittee uh with respect to Lock Padden Park uh that would consist of the mayor and uh council member McCarthy.

All right. Thank you. So we're going to have a moment of silence and a pledge of allegiance. Allison, would you like to lead us? In the pledge of allegiance, after a moment of silence, if we could all stand, please Thank you, Allison, for being a good sport. Um, and tonight's all about Allison. So, the next privilege we have is offering her a proclamation to honor her services. Just when I started to understand what the title of her position was and the name of her department, she's moving on to Humble, no less. She's my total envy that she gets to move to Humble and have a really good job at Humble State. Fantastic. Um, so Allison started with us in May of 2022. Seems a lot longer, especially probably for her. and she's consistently demonstrated a high level of professional urban planning expertise. She served as project manager for the 2045 general plan, the local coastal program update, and the marina station subdivision. Each of those three projects was was large and uh complicated. Allison has also provided guidance to other staff planners and has been instrumental in increasing the overall effectiveness of the marina planning department. the marina community development

department. She recently presented the local coastal program coastal hazards project to the California coastal commission um just last month November highlighting over 20 years of working on coastal related planning as she has now be therefore be it resolved that I mayor Bruce Dogado and the entire city council of the city of Marina do here express our sincere appreciation and gratitude Allison for your planning efforts your good charm your can do it attitude and we congratulate you on your retirement from one public agency so you can go to another public agency should you wish. And we wish you all the best and continued success in your future endeavors. But your success here for all of us will always be thankful and will always benefit from it. Your work on the lo local coastal program and your work on the other projects are are going to, you know, last longer here than any of us. So, thank you very much for all that you've contributed and we're really glad that you spent a lot of time preparing a speech. We'd like to hear that now.

Thank you very much. Kind words. Um, I was just telling council member McAdams recently, actually super truthfully, that I'm so glad that I was able to have the city of Marina kind of as my pinnacle of my career because it's been great working here. The community is lovely. I tell people all the time, I actually like tableabling on the weekends. It's like pleasant. It's not, you know, grueling like some other places can be. Um but the opportunities to work on these big projects have been even after all my many years doing this are all of them have been like oh how do I figure that out now? So like neverending challenges constant um working with Guido has been great. I've learned a lot. Working with the uh more junior planners kind of trying to bring them up and mentor has been super fun. So, best of luck to everybody and I'll be off.

Tell us about your future.

Um, so my partner Bill and I are both we're both from Humboldt. Um, and we have a house there in Eureka, so we'll be going back up there. And I just learned today actually that looks like I'm going to be teaching a coastal planning class at Calpaly Humboldt in the fall. So, I'm super excited. Um, and I've been wanting to get into teaching for a long time and just being in that environment, you know, that academic college environment is very intriguing and homey to me. So, I'm super excited. They have lots of planning classes. They're like, how about local government planning? Yeah, I could probably do that. [laughter] So, anyway, really excited. Thank you very much.

All right. Well, we're excited for you. Would you mind if we took a picture with you? We can all step down. Come on. How about that? Okay, Kathy's gonna say a few words and everyone's welcome to follow.

Council member Biala,

thank you. I just have to say that um you know, I just hate to say goodbye to people like you that have done so much for our city and it really grieves me. I'm not kidding you. So, I know you're going on to greener pastures, but I know you'll always remember us and and all that you've done and and I really think that since you're now teaching what you just gave to us in terms of the LCP, I mean, it couldn't have been better, right? I mean, you know, current information, you know, the struggles, all the different words that that you know, you have to put in an L LCP and what to consider. So, I'm glad we were helpful to you in terms of your future. But yeah, and and I you represent to me the kind of professionalism and you're always quiet, but you're forceful when you need to be. I just really I really am going to miss you and and for our our city as a whole to not have you there because I think you were you were wonderful to work with Guido, but also I could see the mentoring that you do with the younger folks too. So that was they they had such an opportunity to grow because of you. So, [laughter]

yeah. Thank you, Kathy. Council member McCarthy.

Thank you, Mayor. I um told Allison before the meeting, it's kind of rare that I'm genuinely mad. I'm mad. Um but also, you know, obviously happy for someone that's that's following their their dreams. Um, but very specifically, Allison, I just want to share that I found that you really have a gift of being able to present facts in a very compelling kind of non-combative neutral way that really fostered free thought and discussion. Um, and if you have any ability to share how you have that gift or how you can transfer some of that gift to any of us, please either privately or publicly let us know because it's it's really special and I'm very appreciative of it. Thank you. Thank you, Bryant. Council member McCartney

McAdams. Council member McAdams. I'm sorry.

So, this is the second time that Allison Hunter has abandoned me when I was on the DAS. Thank you very much. No. [laughter] Um, I am just Yes. You are so um pragmatic and you just have this way about being very black and white and sticking with the code. and I've heard from several developers how much they absolutely adore you and appreciate your hard work. So, thank you so much and I'm excited for you. of course sad, but you know, like how exciting um to go back to your other home and and get to be a teacher and mentor young youth and and uh and hopefully inspire and motivate them to to work in a municipality and serve residents. So, thank you.

Thank you, Jenny. Mayor Prom Fischer.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And yes, Allison, I would like to agree with the previous three speakers. Um, same things, you know, thank you for teaching me when and and always replying to emails so fast and so clearly. It it's so nice. It's uh and like I'll keep it short, but like I emailed, you know, I'm happy for you, but we will miss you. But good best of luck to you. I think you're the best example of a high quality community development department that we have and thanks to Guido for seeing that in you and thanks to you for doing all the hard work for you to be able to move where you've moved throughout our city and to mentor all the folks that you work with. Uh we really appreciate that and uh yeah, your your high quality of work and your ethics are are exactly what we could ever hope for in a professional working for the city. U I think the quality of the documents, the quality of our um implementation of land use will will for a long time be thankful to your efforts. Thank you very much. Okay, Guido, would you like to say something? Oh no, obviously we're going to tremendously Miss Ellison. She's been a great asset to the city, pushed a lot of projects through. So, just want to thank her for all our hard work. So, we do have another uh community development.

Well, we're going to have one more word from Lane Long, our city manager gets the last word and then back to

lightly Allison. Um, I think what the council has seen is exactly um what our community has seen and our staff has seen is Allison has this level of expertise and this passion for planning that has elevated and has has allowed [clears throat] us you look at the load that's on the planning departments development C haven development general plan update LCP update Marina station plan and what you're going to see with the Marina station plan is Allison's footprint. So, so five years down the road if the plan crashes and burn, which it won't, um, it is Allison because Allison has overseen that project as we've been implementing that project and now it is starting to go vertical. model homes are under construction and and that is Allison's um that's been her project that she has made sure that every eye is dotted, every tea is crossed and and that's going to be a successful project because of Allison and and we will fill that that expertise for the next 10 years. What the council will see is at our next council meeting, we're going to be bringing back a contract with um EMC Consulting um uh for contract management of the Ernest Station project and Allison will continue to help us transition as as Phil gets up to speed on that project and and so we appreciate Allison being willing to help do that. see that contract um the next time and it gets so we won't have any hiccups in that process. It'll continue to move forward very seamlessly. But Allison, you've been a joy, little joy to work with.

Thank you so much. And Alison, I just thought that at 300 acres and 1367 homes, Marina Station is the largest single project our city has ever done and will probably be the largest project we'll ever do because we're running out of places other than Cypress Nolles. maybe future annexation, but you know, in the foreseeable future, it's the biggest project in the history of our city. So, thank you for being the lead that's big. We don't Are we moving on to the next? So, we did want to introduce our new senior planner, Phil. So, Phil, if you want to come up and introduce yourself. How big are his shoes?

Not big enough to fill Allison's. Um, so hi, uh, good evening, council members. I'm Phil Angelo. I'm the new senior planner. Um coming from Kenny of Monterey where got a lot of experience there in planning um the last 5 years. I'm really excited to be here. There's a lot uh very interesting things happening in the city and I can't wait to contribute to them uh both with the local coastal program update and marina stat station and others. That's uh Phil, did you say you're coming from Kenny and Monterey? Monterey. County of Monterey. Thank you. try to articulate a little more. [laughter] We love to steal the best from our partners.

Really good to meet you. Thanks for being here. And uh sorry I didn't introduce myself last time. I was sitting in the back just trying to eavesdrop on the incidental take permit stuff. We figured you were a pers you were a prospective intern [laughter] almost. Great to see you, Phil. Thanks. Okay. So, now we move on to council and staff announcements. Staff, do you have any Where's Drea tonight?

Drea is sick and so she won't be here. If she were here, she'd probably announce the tree lighting um this Friday at 6 o'clock at the Vince Majouel Park. It is going to be a great fun activity as it usually is. Hopefully weather will weather weather forecast looks great. Gonna have lots of light, lots of hot chocolate cookies, fun band playing. So join us at six o'clock. All right. And to continue Dre's energy and Amanda and the rest of the recreation and cultural services staff, they are also organizing a community winter fest. It's a community meal free all you can eat a whole feast and fixings of a traditional holiday late Christmas some people call it Christmas uh late late December season there'll be a little bit of a festival outside with lots of activity for kids and inside there'll be uh music and and feast so it's for everybody you know whether you have a a roof to sleep under or not all families are welcome and I hope to see are we going to see the right family there. Maybe the Reich family has sent about 8 to 10 people each of the last two Thanksgiving community dinners. They've got it down. They're very smart people. So, I hope that a lot of people uh take advantage of this wonderful community offering. Marina Youth Arts will probably be there in some fashion. Um so, come on out. It's uh Sunday, December 21st from 1 to 4:00 p.m. Uh right across the parking lot from city well right in the city hall parking lot and the Rocky Han Community Center. Okay. Uh so our department our fire department chief

Doug Macauen. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I just want everybody to get ready for this Saturday because the Marina Police Department is going to escort Santa Claus around to town. So, listen for the sirens and we'll do our annual round. Santa Claus be riding the fire engine and you'll see the Marina Police Department escorting us all the way through our route. So, it's always a fun event and especially the kids. It's absolutely love it. That's great. Okay, let's go to Council Member McCarthy.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, I would be remiss if I didn't just take a little bit of time to recognize that yesterday was World AIDS Day. Um, it's a day since 1988 for remembering lives lost to HIV and AIDS. Um, and for supporting and recommitting ourselves to fighting stigma, promoting care, and demanding global health justice. This year, the federal government uh has officially stepped back and has removed funding from social media post um public proclamations and coordinated awareness efforts. And so I think it's more important than ever ever for this council to um not remain silent um because silence matters. AIDS didn't go away. HIV didn't go away. People living with HIV are still fighting and surviving needing access to care, support, and dignity. Um and I just want to share, Mr. Mayor, um that from as long as I can remember, you wore a red ribbon on this dis um at a time when it was not always uh very popular to do so. and just how meaningful that was for me, especially as a member of the LGBTQ community. Um, I was fortunate enough to come of age at the tail end of the AIDS epidemic. Um, but I hear stories that haunt me every night. I hear stories of bodies of loved ones, sorry, put [clears throat] in the back of a pickup truck and driven to the morg because there was that much stigma about calling somebody to pick up that body. Um, and these stories just go on and on. Um, and so I just think that not remaining silent uh is uh just something that is really good for our community and uh wanted to say that and appreciate the mayor for um always being an advocate for the cause. Thank you.

All right, I'll try to continue following in your footsteps on that one. You and Jenny and anyone else that's a proponent of the LGBTQ community. Let's go to Mayor Prom Elizabeth Lisbure.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I don't know if I'm cutting the grass away from uh Commander Cox, but the Marina Police Department is still collecting toys for the toy drive until December 8th, Monday through Friday, 8:00 a.m. till 400 p.m. Toys can be dropped off here at the police uh department, 211 Hillrest. Thank you. And I can I quickly, it's not an announcement, but just uh I would just like to uh talk about the uh Thanksgiving community meal, which was a wonderful event as usual. It's it's just so amazing seeing people sharing their meals, sharing tables and uh staff working so hard. Kona Jerry's barbecue catering and so many volunteers. So it was awesome. So thank you to 500 people. Oh boy. Okay. No wonder that the volunteers were tired. Yes. Wow. It was just if if if you have never seen it, just join the Winterfest. It will be similar. Yes. It's just this is Marina meals together free. Okay. So, thank you.

0.25% of those 500 were the right family. [laughter] Do the math. Okay, let's go. Council member McAdams.

And I had the honor and privilege of of help serv serving the Reich family. I got to bring them rolls outside. They sat outside in the sun and uh your granddaughter who is the most stylish youngster in the in the area was dressed as Pikachu. So, thank you for that. But um I just wanted to piggyback on Mayor Prom's comments and thank all the volunteers um Kona Jerry the Shake family. You know, they provide um nourishment cooked with love and you know donations and it really is the DJ who shows up for every event. U Marina Youth Arts. You you guys are always there engaging our youth. They were making um like marshmallow and pretzel things. Um but anyways, it was a great event and I just feel so fortunate to be part of of this community where we can all come together and just have a really nice time. Um, and then regarding Santa on the fire truck, if you want um the map of where he's going, you can find that on the Marina Foundation website or their Facebook page. So, that's where you find the detailed map of where he's going and when. So, thank you. Thank you very much, Jenny. On December 8th, Monday at 5:30 p.m., there'll be a virtual community meeting on Zoom for topic construction impacting the California Coastal Trail. So Marina is fairly well torn up right now along Delmmani Boulevard and along the the Dunes uh beach road uh on former Ford with the state parks doing a large campground project and Marina sorry Monas transit doing a large mass transit project uh on Delmani and so there's a

lot of impacts and so Monterey County Supervisor on Monday December 8th to 5:30 p.m. and myself, Mayor Bruce Delgado, will host a virtual community meeting meant to provide the public with information on MST project and the California State Parks projects which are under construction. Um, and the Monterey Selenas Transit and the California State Parks representatives will each present about their project so people can learn more about that and ask questions that these experts will answer. So, it's on Zoom and the uh meeting ID, you might have to write that down. I'll say it twice. 972710 545 26. Once again, 972 710 54526. That's the meeting ID. And it's 5:30 uh Monday, December 8th. Okay. Uh, I guess we'll move on at this point to the public comment. So, anyone wishing to public, we're going to start with those of you that are present here in person. Please step up to the podium should you wish to speak for up to three minutes. And also, you can talk about the consent agenda issues or anything else that's on your mic. Hello, I'm Cosette Moulder, the president of Marina Youth Arts, and this is Leanne Lang, a new board member with us. And we would like to share an event that we have coming up this weekend, the Sunday the 7th,

and it's from 10 to 2:30 and it's going to be at Marina High School gym. And it's going to be a holiday market. So, we're going to have handcrafted vendors there. And we also have food trucks, live entertainment. This is a community event. We are inviting you all to because uh we really want the community to come out because we're this is our second annual holiday market. Um and uh we're adding to that a first student art exhibit for our high school students. And this is a jured art exhibit to actually um sew into the next generation of artists. My husband is a professional artist and um we feel strongly that the the world that students that are artists are coming out of or in that it's so negative. And we really want to provide hope, direction, inspiration and um something to go with that they can go hopefully to art school. This is a visual art exhibit meaning o all mediums of art there. It's going to be juried by art um let me see professional artists and um we there will be a we're inviting the community to judge or to pick their very favorite painting or art piece of art because it's also going to be um sculptures and ceramic pieces. We have 16 students who are participating. We are so excited about that and um we feel so strongly about it that my husband and I are personally um u funding a $1,000 um achievement in art award that we are

presenting and this is going to be an annual event. So we plan on doing this every year at at this time of year and it's going to be at Marina High School. We've already talked to Mr. Quetto. He's very excited and so is the art teacher there as well. And and we just want you to uh come out and we're really um pushing the community to come out as Marina is growing exponentially. We feel that having these community events that are so um draws the community together. I've been a community resident here for 50 years and um we have strong I have strong ties here. My um my the children's room in the library, the Michelle Lang children's room is my sister-in-law. It was named after her. My mother-in-law was Ash Lang. She was made uh woman of the year in 2014. And so we have a strong sense of giving back to our community and the community is here in Marina. We feel strongly about um providing um positive look at Marina High School because still their stigma is we want to transfer our kids out of Marina to Seaside or Monterey and our

I'm sorry I don't like to do this. We've given you extra time to Oh, so sorry. I was telling the city man the city attorney to cut you off because I didn't want to. But he didn't he didn't want to either. So thank you. We would like you all to come out and just um support our uh students and for everybody to see what a great school Marina High School is. Thank you.

Thank you very much. Thank you both. And last year was a great event at the Philam Community Hall and it's going to be even better this year. Thank you for a lot of hard work. Okay, anyone else in the room who would like to speak to anything on their mind or the consent agenda? Then let's turn it over to Rob Dan Turley. Go ahead Rob Dan. We're asking you to unmute Robin. Okay, you should be good to go. Hello.

Yes. Hello, Denise.

So, for those of you who don't know this burning question, my husband is Robert, so that makes us Robin. [laughter] [snorts] So, uh anyway, um I guess you can all guess which item I'm going to speak on. That would be 10 G2, the uh continuation of the contract between the city and Greyar management company for the management of Preston and Abrams Park. And [cough and clears throat] um I understand that it needs to be done this time of year for continuity reason, but we're still lacking several things to make the partnership between the city Greyar are and the tenants association and all tenants in general um to have an effective communication system. And so, um, I would suggest that, um, that be one of the goals for this year, that, um, we figure out how to communicate uh, more effectively that, um, and I'm going to speak specifically to the fact that I had my unit painted and floored. over this last uh year and a half, almost two years.

And the process was bumpy. It was worse the first time than it was the second time. The second time was the same week I spent the week in the hotel with the fire victims from Preston Park on the third floor of Home Two Suites, which is now nicknamed Preston Park Southwest. for that week at least. And um so anyway, I would just say that we still need to brush up and really have a more cohesive um plan. Um, tenants need to know what the management wants, management needs to know what the tenants need, and um, it would make that process so much better.

I'll give you back 10 seconds. Bye. Thank you, Denise. And we'll give everyone else online a moment if you'd wish to speak to our consent agenda or other things that might be on your mind. Let's go to Linda. Welcome, Linda.

Uh, yes. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, I have a couple things. Um, I'm looking since, uh, we are talking about the renewal of the Preston and Abrams Park contract this evening, I'm looking at, um, a requirement to have an audit done at the end of each term. which would be December 31 and I have not seen anything that um such audit was performed and I'm just wondering did I miss it and uh I also had my unit um uh remodeled this year and similar like the niece um there were bumps in the road [clears throat] but one of the things that really stands out for me is um you know we had beautiful wooden cabinets and everything in here and they had basically destroyed, you know, they um put um they painted things um that destroyed the cabinets and everything and you cannot um [clears throat] you cannot very well clean it and everything. And a lot of the things that I saw when I came back, it's beautiful on the surface, but it's really substandard. And I'm feeling that there's probably a better way and maybe a different um subcontractor that can be employed. And I don't have a feeling that um these projects are managed um the way um that we would expect. And um I just want to bring that up. I don't know what value it is at this point. um there is really no alternative than you know continuing the contract but um in any event I wanted to bring that up. I think there is lots of room for improvement in the

management of um our units here. Thank you Mr. Mayor. Thank you Linda. Your comments make it easier to make improvements so we appreciate them.

Okay. Anyone else online? We'll close public comment and I think the city council hopes that uh our staff can look into the items brought up at Preston Park. We have another year to do it. It's always better to hear before tonight so that maybe we can make some changes to the agreement, but it's never too late and we can make postag agreement changes as necessary. All right. Uh, let's move on to our consent agenda. Council members, do you have anything you'd want to pull or discuss briefly? Council member McAdams.

Thank you. Um, I have three items I wanted to make comment on. Teni one, I wanted to thank the Marina Police Officers Association for their negotiations and service to our city and residents. Um 10 G2, this is the Preston Park. Um I was just surprised that as landlords, we're not already requiring fire in or renters insurance. Um so I'm I'm happy to see that and I hope that we move forward with that implementing that requirement um as soon as possible. Um, and then also exhibit C, which is um, still in included in this, it's dated 2019. And I just wanted to confirm that the city attorney has reviewed this document and verified that it remains current, accurate, and legally effective because it's signed, not by you.

Which exhibit? Uh, exhibit C, which is one of it's like the only signed uh, amendment in the document. So yes, there have been amendments every year up to this point. So each amendment has extended the term of that agreement. Check. But you have reviewed the initial agreement that it's extending and the I've reviewed it. Okay. It's an existing agreement. Okay. To the extent we need to make changes, I have not reviewed it for that purpose. Okay. Okay. And one one second, please. So the signatures follow tonight. Is that correct? The signatures that are lacking, they happen after tonight.

That is correct for the amendment that is extending the agreement. Yes. And how about for exhibit C?

That one stated 2019. Hold on. On page 75 of our packet, there's a signature page for exhibit C was signed by the manager but not the lender. Tori, you can comment on that. That was the the shared copy that we had. Um the city clerk may have a copy and I would like to say that she she probably does with fully executed document. The one that I might have pulled just did not have that information on it. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

And then so then how about the exhibit C on page 83? Do those follow or they already in place.

The last page of exhibit C. So exhibit C is a document that establishes the grievance procedures. That is a document that would be uh provided to tenants to sign. It gets signed with. Yes. So the signatures on page 65 of the PDF, page 20 of the document. All right. And then how about the last two pages of exhibit D is in David page 86 and 87. That's one that I So city manager says he signs it after tonight. That's correct. And everybody else will sign it after tonight as That's correct. Thank you, Jenny. Please. Uh,

sure. And then 10 M1, which is the um mayor appointments. Um, Council Member McCarthy is vice chair of I think we need to pull it because there's a few changes. Oh, okay. Okay. So, then um I'd like to pull 10 M1. Great. Thank you, Mayor. Okay. Uh, Mayor Pan Fisher.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'd like to pull 10 G2 because I think I have longer uh comments than Okay, so we've got 10 M1 from Council Member McAdams and 10 G2 from Mayor Proan Fisher. Any other items? People have questions or brief comments or wish to pull? Okay, go ahead. Uh Cat McCarthy.

Thank you, Mayor. Um 10F1 is the city council calendar. I just think there's a a mistake. The last item there says September 3rd to 4th I think. Um, sorry, let me get you the exact date. 10F1 items number seven says regular meeting Tuesday September 3rd to Wednesday September 4th. I think September 4th is a Friday. So I just want clarity there. Hopefully that's just a quick question. Anybody have their calendar out?

Yeah, September 4th 26 is a Friday. So I think number seven probably was intended to say from the first to the third instead of the third to the fourth or I'm sorry the first to the second to the Second. Is that correct, Sh? Is that correct? Okay. Um, yeah.

Anything more? Uh, yeah. NG2. So, we we're clear on what that is. That is the Tuesday to the Wednesday like the other. Yeah, we're not clear yet. Uh, I just heard from the city attorney. Can we get confirmation on that regular meeting in early December of the dates what it was and what it will be?

Okay. So, regular meeting Tuesday, December 1st will instead be bumped one day to Wednesday, September 2nd. Sounds like Labor Day is on the 7th. So we probably mean instead of Tuesday the 7th, we're going to go to Wednesday the 8th. Yeah. So Labor Day is the 7th. So it would change from the 8th of Tuesday to the 9th because the normal first Tuesday is clear.

Okay. So, thank you, Council Member Picardi for bringing this up. So, we're going to strike item seven from 10 F1. Okay. Um, I'll move on to 10 G2. Just a couple questions about the Grey Star contract also. Oh, okay. Thank you. Anything else? Uh, J3 is a gun moratorum. Quick question. We don't have any businesses um currently in line asking for any permits in regards to that. None that I'm aware of. Yeah. Okay. Um, and I assume so being that nobody has showed up to speak. Um, and that's it.

Prove the consent. It's uh does not include 10 G2 or 10 M1 as in Mary and that we uh adjust 10 F1 to Demit number seven. Is there a second? I'll second that. Any comment before we go to a vote? Okay. All in favor, please say I. All oppose, please say no.

All right. That motion passes. Council, if you want to take up the two bold items, you want to put them to the back as is out back. Any any uh to the back, please. is the back. Okay. So, let's move on then to the back. Uh, sorry, we have public cars on the coastal commission hearings. Maybe our last chance we're going to hear from our esteemed program manager. So close. I am Allison Hunter, planning services manager for the city of Marina for eight more days. Um, [laughter] I am actually very excited to bring this item to the council for a lot of reasons. Um, as you know, this has been a work in process since 2017, so long before my time. Uh this is the coastal hazards and sea level rise amendment to the city's 1982 local coastal program or LCP. Um this was I won't go into the background because I think everybody even people who have been following in the public have heard about how this all got started. Um but the exciting news is this went to the coastal commission. Um, on November 7th, Renee was there with uh Dave Revel, our amazing consultant from Integral Consulting. None of this would have happened without Dave as the expert doctor of geomorphology. So, um, the commission and coastal

commission staff loved what we were doing and absolutely were just falling over themselves with compliments on this document. They truly um complimented us and just kudos to the city of Marina for being a leader statewide in trying to come up with policies to keep our coastline in as natural a condition as we possibly can. So, we got about 99% of the way there. um with all of their support and uh acknowledgement of all of our hard work, they could not give us the complete ban on fire armoring shoreline protection that we were asking for specifically because it would be inconsistent with public resources code section 30235. So they coastal staff worked very hard on what we all call friendly mods. um which in concert with our staff and um city attorneys, we really crafted language that we think although we can't we couldn't quite get to codifying the complete ban. Um the circumstances under which card armoring would be allowed are so limited that it was really as good as we could possibly get. Um so it it does result in a practical ban um given that existing development on our coastline already has their own restrictions in terms of shoreline protection devices. Um and we're just super proud of how this came out. Now, I'm slightly embarrassed after getting all of the warm uh thoughts and uh warm wishes and everything earlier with my proclamation. I do have to point out

a small boo boo in your packet because it just wouldn't be right if there wasn't a small boooo. Um [clears throat] I I was I actually included the old um implementation plan. So you all on the dis you all have a copy of this exhibit B corrected which uh includes it's very few comments but I do want to walk you through it um just to explain it really quickly but I had inadvertently included your approved uh implementation plan but I did not include the track changes that were required the modifications from the coastal commission. So on this new corrected version, you now have the striketh through um underlines which reflect what the commission did at their hearing and and as uh recommended by coastal staff. So we can walk through these. There are not very many. Um and it it's really just this is the implementation plan. So, it's putting into more uh development standard type language the uh policies that were in the land use plan. So, if you would like, we can just walk through each of these um whatever is your pleasure.

Yes.

Okay. So, um, starting just at the very beginning of this corrected exhibit B, you'll see that, um, co what whatever's underlined of course was added by coastal staff and then the stricken phrases and words were removed by coastal staff. So in the very first paragraph um in order to be consistent with that public resources code 30235 they struck no as in we they would not buy off on ensure that no shoreline protective devices were installed but to say shoreline protective devices will only be utilized subject to the very limited circumstances in the future consistent with LUP policy hazard 1, four, and six. So th those hazard policies are the ones that define under what cases shoreline protective devices could be utilized. And and I do want to point out that the the commission is very supportive of living shoreline protective devices, soft armoring as we call them, managed retreat, all those other types of armoring before you get to hard armoring like seaw wall, revetment, groin, that kind of stuff. So there there's no uh prohibition or um other like they're they're very supportive of moving forward with every possible alternative and putting the onus on the developer to say why that alternative soft or nature-based um device would not work. So you you exhaust all of those other memor uh remedies before you get to any kind of hard armoring structure.

So that's the first one. And then moving a couple more pages to, and my apologies, this doesn't appear to have page numbers, but it's three uh F starting with shoreline protection protective devices are only allowable in marina coastal zone when found consistent with LUP h uh policy hazard 6. So we had use the word prohibited and of course they crossed that out and and then [clears throat] created this little caveat only allowable under these circumstances that are very limited. Um and when required to serve coastal dependent uses or to protect existing structures and public beaches. So we we added definitions of coastal dependent uses which are very very limited under the coastal act. They are uses that must be must require the shoreline to exist like peers and boat marinas and things like that. Um and then down a couple more pages getting towards the end. Roman numeral five shoreline monitoring. Uh they struck a section there but left um the the other agencies that will be um participating in preparing coastal hazard response plans when these certain triggers are met. And

um then they just added under that same section subsection B monitoring and then they included including as required by any CDP condition. So these were actually in my experience very minor modifications prepared by coastal staff. Um, I have worked in cities that have had their whole entire LCPs stricken, underlined so that the city council would not approve it. It's that dramatic. Um, so I'm really proud of how this came out. I think it's going to be great. Um, if there are any questions about those these new uh implementation plan uh items, I'd be happy to talk about those. But next steps for just for your information, what happens tonight, I will send back to Coastal Commission staff for a final certification, which I think once they get it, this will just be a consent item on their agenda and it would be very quick. And then we have a certified amendment. Um, this is planned to be just rolled into our comprehensive update that's going on concurrently. Um, I I have just in the last couple of days been thinking about we might want to Renee and Guido, we might you guys might want to um and Phil think about actually doing a municipal code uh amendment to 1740 and just adding this coastal hazards as a new um chapter within our existing zoning code. Title 17 to help it be in place sooner than uh

the rest of the comprehensive update. When's your last day? Next Friday. Plenty of time. But Phil Phil loves this stuff and he has experience with LCPs and coastal so he's very excited. [laughter] All right. Is that will that be it? That is it for my presentation.

Okay. I'm sure we're going to have questions. Let's go to the public first, get their input. Uh, anyone here in person wish to speak, please step forward. Seeing no one rising, let's go to folks online. If you are online, want to speak to this coastal hazards and sea level rise implementation plan and LCP amendment. Please raise your hand. We'll give you another moment. Okay. Uh, we'll close public comment. Mon pencil water supply project is my only question. Um, it's considered a coastal dependent use. Is that correct?

Only the intake equipment is coastal dependent. Not the wellheads, not the slant wells. the slant wells intake would be considered including all the infrastructure of roads and I I would not consider that coastal dependent. All right. The the co the uh the singlestory you know electrical buildings that that run the slant wells. Yeah. I would Renee is shaking his head at me. I would not consider any of those aspects of that larger project coastal dependent.

Okay. So the reason I bring it up is because the staff report in the an in the page one uh it says that the uh three existing andor permitted facilities along Marina's coast already include prohibition for installation of shoreline protected devices. Mhm. So, if the Monterey Peninsula Water Supply Project goes in with the slant wells, is there already a document that includes language that prohibits shoreline protective devices? Yes. Their own coastal development permit issued by the coastal commission prohibits I think it's condition 14. I clarify that permit has not been issued. It's just a conditional permit. The conditional permit. Yeah.

So, that was my next question to our legal attorney. Is there any other kind of attorney? Uh [laughter] He's not our movie review attorney. He's our legal attorney. Um, it says [clears throat] it's a permitted facility, but that coastal development permit has not been issued. Is that correct? That that is correct. So, it's a conditional it's a conditional permit. So, meaning it's got to you got to meet certain conditions in order for it to be a permit. Okay. So, from the coastal commission, do they have a coastal development permit already or not? They have a permit that is subject to conditions for it to be effective. Okay.

Just like all of our permits are the same. All right. So, is it is it true that we have three existing and or permitted facilities? We have three. Do we Yes, we have MCWD's old wastewater treatment plant at reservation. And we have sanctuary beach resort and the long word of the word. Yeah. [laughter] Correct. So that's my question is is it correct that that so that that staff report could probably be clarified that there are two existing permitted projects and one that has a permit that is uh still condition subject to conditions.

All right. Very very nuanced. Um okay. So if the snorles go in and 25 years uh they're so impacted by co by sea level rise that they have to be something has to be done to them either move them east or protect them with hard armor or something else. What does this say to their ability to be hard armored? Well, they're they have condition 14 in their conditional prohibits any shoreline protective devices. Okay.

So that so that's one. And then two in our hazard one which is on page exhibit A page three um it references 14 CCR section 13166 page 15. Yes.

So that is um the purpose of that is that you are not when you go to amend a permit or extend a permit, you're not to lessen existing permit conditions unless such changes are allowed pursuant to section 1316.

Right. And that's certain very limited circumstances where it's something that was not foreseen could not have been foreseen at the time that those conditions were in place and that won't be available to be said for the monitor coincide project because it was a coastal condition which means it was foreseen.

Correct. There's studies out there. There's sea level rise guidance you know in terms of what impacts could be caused. Okay. foreseeable now. All right, that was my only line of thought. Anyone else, Council Member Viala? First, I want to say kudos to our to you, especially Allison, but also is it Dave? I don't remember his last Dave Brevel. Dave Brevel who we've heard several times because this piece is really a masterpiece and I always say it because the um you know the the plan planned retreat is that what you call manage retreat um all of the details of the you know the maps and the graphs it just been wonderful it's just it really is stunning and I don't know whether other jurisdiction or coastal um uh cities have this kind of I probably

well they all use him around here so oh so They're they're getting it, but you we might have been first cuz this has been going on for a while for us. So, I'm just very proud. And of course, a long time ago, there was a wonderful article, I think, from the New York Times that celebrated this and featured our mayor on it. And so, I think we

LA Times LA Times. So, we were very much out in front um in doing this. So um and because it it it hasn't been totally approved um until it goes back to the coastal commission but um have we have not started any of the the monitoring triggers or anything but once the coastal commission does the consent agenda then we start doing that right? Uh there are triggers that we'll have to um start reviewing and creating an actual monitoring plan, but yes. Is Dave or PL was Phil going to be responsible or somebody here?

Uh yeah, I don't I don't think that's been figured out yet, but we'll have to we'll have to get that organized and determine what the process will be for that.

Yeah. Okay. Great. Great. And it sounds like um you know it's a big project too but um you know it's great to be out out ahead of the pack. Um so you said that we have to exhaust other or the coastal commission has a policy or practice of exhausting uh other armoring options. Is that specifically in writing in any of this? Um, I don't know off the top of my head if it is because that that's a really critical piece, you know, in some way to refer that uh that there are other options that have to be implemented.

Yeah. as as part of the coastal hazards response plan. In this um implementation plan, it's item Roman numeral 3E. There is um one of the items that needs to be considered is identification of alternatives considered to avoid coastal hazards for reduce erosion, dude recession and and relocation alternatives. Correct. Um [clears throat] yeah, living shoreline elements and sand nourishment. Great.

Um yeah, they the commission itself in their deliberation was very uh supportive of just the whole concept of making sure every possible other alternative is considered. Um and they loved that Marina wants to do that. Yes. Cuz you know you you can imagine up and down the statewide coast. Terrified of this. Yes. Very terrified of exactly this. So

yes, exactly. They have a lot more to lose than we do actually. So I'm not faulting them for it. But um also in the in F, let's see what number is that? Kathy, do you was it okay if the city man city attorney? Yes. So I think the answer to your question in hazard 7, it kind of lays out in the loop. Yeah. On page four, number 16 of the PD of the PDF, it talks about uh identifying all alternatives and little shoreline protective devices and it lists those and it lists them there. Yes. Thank you.

Places then. Okay, great. So that that really shows the emphasis.

Great. Thank you. And then um on um 3F is that it 3F is the place where they modified our wonderful statement of we're going to pro prohibit all um armoring and so we had to accept this language and we really need to otherwise we're not going to get our LCP. Um but as you said it's very limited in scope and so so when it says and required to serve coastal dependent uses and we had a big issue over that when when the planning commission heard the uh LCP for the um the LCP for the uh the I don't acronyms now the CAM project before the uh planning department uh we talked a lot about this coastal dependent use. But when it says this, does that mean basically only approved ones? I mean, somebody can be proposing it, but if they haven't if they haven't addressed this, then it wouldn't be approved, right?

Well, we did as part of this amendment, we did add definition in your appendix A of the exhibit A as coastal dependent use. So it it does very specifically limit what's what is considered a coastal development use. Mhm. So in those cases if a new coastal development coastal development coastal dependent use is permitted they would have to prepare this shoreline uh coastal hazards plan that identifies how they intend to either retreat or protect through living shoreline or other soft um

okay facilities. So that project I don't think I ever saw a plan for that. Do you recall for Yeah. I I I don't know. Do you recall? I don't ever because I know um managed retreat was not going to be possible because of the zoning and and properties needed for that. So, but I don't recall that that was required. And maybe this is a new thing for the coastal commission. I don't

this may be a new thing and and they were we didn't have this before in our LCP and and they the coastal commission relies on the coastal act for their coastal development permits but they do look to the local LCP for guidance right and we didn't have next coastal commission meeting okay well great thank you very much for those clarifications I appreciate your work

thank you Kathy Council member McCarthy Thank you, mayor. Um, yes, I agree. This doesn't do justice the amount of work I think they're going to put into this. So, thank you very much for that. Um, just a couple comments really as we work with those four entities that are listed. Um, is does the city have any kind of actually a question? Does the city have any schedule or any reminder like, hey, every five years we should be reaching out to state parks and having this discussion or what does that look like? Uh the this are you talking about um under Roman numeral five shoreline monitoring and the yes

the four uh items there those are relating to triggers. So they would be monitoring and theoretically we would be monitoring to see when the uh erosion of dune crest within 10 ft of the parking lot or 30 ft of the restroom. So you know if a giant storm happens the city and these entities it's their property and their improvements. So they will be out there, you know, assessing damage and that's when those um monitoring steps start getting triggered.

I just think there's some value into preventing future city councils from having to have this hard discussion, right, to proactively reaching out and basically saying, "Hey, remember our local coastal plan says X, Y, and Z, so when this does happen, you know, these will be your options." And I don't know what kind of schedule that looks like.

Yeah. Well, and luckily through our we've learned through our extensive stakeholder meetings with state parks, Marina Coast Water, and Sanctuary Beach Resort, they all already have managed retreat as part of their like business plans, so to speak. So, they're well aware, they were supportive of these um policies and development standards. Um, so they're good partners to have with the city because they are we're all in alignment on how we want the coastline to age sort of so to speak. And then the last comment kind of um similar and I've talked about this before but uh when you look at the coastal inundation maps

um you know it talks about in 2100 that it's very possible that water may crest the top of the dune and come down Highway One and flood um you know the area under the highway and even more inland. And so kind of my comment question is I mean what what then right and we just saw this in Monterey right they the windows on the bay park flooded um and it's causing them big problems and they're dealing with that and whether they do armoring or not is yet to be seen. Um but are we looking at that? Is that too far down the road? Um do I mean do we what's the mitigation there? Do we close that part of the highway? Do we

are you talking specifically about reservation road going under the highway or over topping under? So, but the Yeah, the offramps and on-ramps would be unusable, right?

Potentially. Yeah. And and that's more the the sort of greater risk is actually tsunami impacts at that location. Um eventually sea level rise is expected to you know get to that point of over topping and like entering the state beach parking lot and just continuing down reservation. Um you know this is a living dynamic document and it should be updated from time to time. So, as as sea level rise and coastal hazards progress, the city will need to invest in updating this to answer those. Exact.

Okay. Yeah. I just think it's worth mentioning that it's possible people alive today, young people today, right, will experience that and so it's never too early to kind of start having the discussion. Thank you, Mayor. Great. Thank you, Mayor Prom Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I was trying not to say anything about this because Allison already answered some of my questions and no pressure for uh Phil, but I sent my message at 12:58 p.m. yesterday and 18 minutes later, boom, boom, boom. So, and yeah, one of my questions was about slan 12 and uh condition 14 because she was on lunch. She doesn't do much.

She doesn't have time for lunch. No. So, [laughter] and um one other question I asked was about the sanctuary beach resort and um that is subject to the conditions of its own CDP because people might be wondering about that as well. Yeah. So, I just want to thank you and everybody else who has worked on this very complicated Yes. And I I do want to call out EMC Planning Consultants of course because they were the other big team member on this too. So kudos to them as well. Thank you.

Okay. I wanted to pick up on something that Council McCarthy started. Um there's staff turnover at all four of these entities including Calam where they to do their water supply infrastructure slant wells and uh it may not be on their radar. uh and being a living dynamic document. I think that it would be proactive if we started now uh talking about this at the uh joint MCWD city council meeting about what paper or electronic checklists are going to be needed so that every time there's a big storm, we go check and see if the dune's been crested. And if the dune has been crested, what's the notification process so that everybody knows along amongst these four parties if there's been any trigger rather than wait for a trigger to happen and expect that the staff at that moment will get out there and properly record this as a this event as a trigger. Uh so I guess a city manager question, what can we do to to kind of implement council member McCarthy's concern that you know everybody's got to be on the same page to make sure that this is followed. Let us talk over and our staff. I we understand your your point. So, let us talk over um to figure what kind of mechanisms, schedules, whatever we we'll have in place.

Okay. Can you can you let us know after you've discussed it? Yeah, and we'll definitely report back to you on that. Okay. Any more comments, questions before we go to council member? Yeah. and um uh Mayor Prom Fisher and I sit on the quarterly uh joint meetings between MCWD and the city and I think that's a great suggestion and I think we should start the dialogue there as well as letting the staff figure out the protocols for that but that's the place to do it too. Thank you.

Okay. Uh, someone like to make a motion. Council. So, I'd like to make uh a motion uh to accept the modifications made by the California Coastal Commission and at its November 7, 2025 meeting to the city's coastal hazards and sea level rise local coastal program LCP amendment approved by the city uh city council on January 22nd, 2025. The proposed amendment is not subject to environmental review per public resources code um division 13 section 211080.9 and section 15251 of the SQUA guidelines.

I'll second. Okay, it's been seconded. Uh any final comment or question before we go to a vote? Okay. All in favor, please say I. I. I. Oppos, please say no. Any abstensions? So that motion passes unanimous to the five present. Kudos once more Allison and everyone who helped you consultants and other staff. So we move to then next to a public hearing and reading of a potential amendment to our city parking schedule and Commander Cox will be leading us through this. Thank you, Commander.

Good evening everybody. Sorry while they bring up my slideshow. All right. Uh you guys may recall last year I presented regarding AB413 which is the daylighting parking issue or not issue a new law that was signed into law. Thank you. In October of 2023 it became in effect on January 1st of this year. Last year the Marina Police Department uh interacted or engaged with the public regarding this new law through our website, our social media presenting here at council. And then during the early stages of this new law, we issued only warnings, no actual citations. Um, and we continue to issue warnings on that. Uh, the proposed amendment to the this municipal code. This is just a uh background on the on the new law. It's no parking within 20 feet of the crosswalk approach side. Whether the crosswalk is marked or unmarked, everyone recalls. Can be a little confusing, but um as you can imagine, there are probably hundreds of these locations throughout the city. One of the important parts of this new law, it specifically states that the parking area does not need to be marked red for it to be enforced. In creating this amendment, we're also asking for the uh value of the citation to be $45. Here we have listed the

surrounding agencies that have this new law uh listed on the municipal code. And here's the draft ordinance uh force title 10 sections 10.40.04. 040 uh asking for an addition section K. Vehicles are prohibited from stopping, standing, or parking within 20 ft of the vehicle approaching side of any unmarked or marked crosswalk or 15 ft of any crosswalk where a curb extension is present. This is verbatim and coincides with the California Vehicle Code definition of this violation. So we are trying to amend this m code so the two laws line up perfectly and here I have a recommended motion regarding this.

Okay. Thank you.

So at this time let's open the public hearing and anyone in the room uh would wish to speak please step forward. Seeing no one rising, let's go online for this public hearing. Anyone online wish to speak to this item? Please raise your hand so we can bring you in to the discussion. We'll give you another moment before we close public comment. Okay, let's close public comment. Um, thank you, Commander Cox. Is the daylighting I'm so sorry. Is the uh the curb extension 15 foot because it doesn't need to be 20 ft because you have more visibility with a curb extension?

Yes, because the curb jets out in the street further then a car can't pull up all the way to the the intersection per se. So it's that's why it's less. Okay. How has it gone? um how many you know zero warnings or 100 warnings that we've issued as a city since this 2023. I don't have the actual numbers of how many warnings but I can tell you that uh we issued dozens of warnings.

Great. I mean good to know that's the ballpark I was looking for. Um before we settle on when do we settle on an amount of fine? Um, I would have to talk with to Guido in regards to where we landed on that number. Okay. City attorney.

Yeah, sure. So, currently you have a parking bail schedule that sets the fines in this category at um $45. So, unless we change it, that would be the default, correct? Okay. Can can you try to run through let's say a $45 citation? How much does the city keep? because I know the public thinks that sometimes this is done to make money and it's my impression that we get very little doesn't even pay for the police time prop for the paperwork and all that. That's also my understanding. I don't have the exact percentages of where all those funds go. Okay.

Does anyone in the room have a better idea of what we end up with with a a fine? What percent? Okay. Um maybe we could get that in the future, especially when this comes back. Will this come back to us to look at the specific fine amount? I think that's on your although I don't see the resolution. It is part of the staff report. What's the number?

45. So if it's at 45 and that's less than everyone else, I guess my question is why is it at 45? Well, I just from the police department, we don't get involved with the landing on any prices because there's a conflict of interest there. We're issuing the citations and then also deciding how much it is. So, I I wouldn't be able to All right. Let me ask our our city manager who who contemplates and decides the amount of the police fines or

in this case $45. I I think most of the time it's recommendations from our police police department. Um okay. So I think council will probably agree that we want to know some justification for whatever the price is that it covers staff time etc to some degree similar to probably how other cities have contemplated this amount. So where do we go? What's our next step on this

if I may? So, in kind of researching some of this information, there was the last resolution I think I think it's it been at least 10 years, if not longer, um, since that bail schedule's been updated. So, it could use an updated um, my recommendation when I reviewed where it should fit within the ordinance was that it fit right in a category and there was already an existing $45 fine for this. Okay. So, but the schedule as a whole would likely need to be updated.

Okay. So, to the city manager, is it possible that we're leaving a lot of money on the table with an old uh schedule? Sorry. If the council wants to give us direction to look at our whole schedule, we can add that to our work program and come back to council and do a deeper dive on that. Okay. I imagine if they've issued dozens of warnings, they're probably going to issue tens or more citations, which takes a lot of time processing. And if we're undervaluing our staff time, then we should probably relook, refresh.

Yeah. And a lot of times on on fines, it's not just um because fines are kind of punitive. um uh they're different from our fee schedule where in our fee schedule the intent is to recover 100% of the cost and fines is a little different approach right so maybe not full cost recovery but there's a pattern where we're usually less than everyone else because we're out of date so it just seems like this is an opportunity to get under get in get updated and if it's true that we have a lot of other similar citations that are also outdated. Just doesn't make sense that we would want to stay outdated.

So, there is a provision in the vehicle code that kind of lays out a process for setting those fines. It usually does require looking at the neighboring jurisdictions. So, but that's obviously another item that would come back in terms of updating all those fines as a whole, right? And I know when we when we hire or do labor negotiations to set salary schedules and there's a couple there's a couple other things I think we look at a set of like eight or 10 cities it would make sense to use that set for these comparisons so they're consistent and okay let's go to uh council member Biala.

Thank you Mr. Mayor. So, uh, are you aware of of of more regularly abused curbs that in this citation that you've been issuing? Yes, there are certain locations that are far more frequent. Okay. With this specific violation, yes. Okay. And do we have any red mark curbs in the city already? We do. We do. Yes. Okay. Would those be covered by the more frequently abused curbs or are there some that we might want to consider? consider painting. Yes,

I think, you know, if if we went down the avenue of identifying the higher frequent ones, that's probably a good step because it's far unreasonable to consider painting every intersection. But yeah, I think way too costly for us. Absolutely. Um it would be very easy to get the the data on what our hot spots would be for this violation and and see if it's feasible to depending on how many there are. Yeah. Great. Okay. Well, I I hope that we fill that in at our recommendation. Thank you. Yeah. Ishmael is back to just itching to paint a more curb.

But it would save money from the resident or the the owner of the car and it would save staff time. Council member McCarthy. Thank you, mayor. Um, if we were to get in a police car for the next hour and just proactively search these violations, would you say we could find two, five, 10, 100? It's not fair for me to make that assessment because I'm not out there doing it every day, but our CSOS um, who conduct the majority of our traffic enforcement and they're out seeking violations, um, they'd be able to give you a better idea. Based on what I've seen, I would say on a day right now maybe 10 and that's just my assessment nothing really based on

yeah fair enough and I and I would agree with that I think that I mean these are numerous so my concern is while I agree with the mayor's um idea of kind of evaluating the bail amounts and ticket amounts and making sure we're recouping costs I also really feel for people that are probably doing this and not realizing it and so I know we've kind of had this time period where we're trying to issue warnings Um, but if we go out and we ticket everyone who is violating right now, we're going to have it it's, you know, it's going to be tough. And so I just don't know what the way forward with that. I'd be more inclined to say let's keep the bail on the ticket amount low and but have an automatic increase every year, right? of it. Um, so that we give those people that are mis, you know, unknowingly violating the law, you know, a little bit of an opportunity, you know, that it doesn't kind of wipe out their their meal money for the week or whatever. Um, so, you know, I've kind of made those comments before, but my my broader point is that this is a very easy violation to make. I'm sure I've even made it unknowingly in the last year. Um, and uh, you know, we've got to get there at some point, but um, it there's probably I would guess if I spent the next five hours, I could probably find a hundred violations in the city tonight. Um, so those are just kind of just some broad comments. Thank you, Brian. Let's go to Council Member McAdams.

Thank you, Mayor. I'm happy to make a motion. Oh, okay. Always.

Okay. Um, so I move for approval of one, opening a public hearing and reading by title only ordinance 2025- determined amending section 10.40.040 of chapter 10.40 of title 10 of the Marina Municipal Code to add subsection 10.40.040.K K to implement parking restrictions consistent with AB413. Two, adopt resolution number 2025 to be determined amending the sitting parking schedule pursuant to California BL code section 40203.5A and find these actions are exempt from environmental review pursuant to section 15061 B3 of the SQA guidelines. Second.

Uh, let's go to council member or mayor prom viser. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, we received a letter from MST. U, Mr. Mayor, do we need a second? You got it. Right. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't hear that. Yeah. So, we received a letter from MST um informing us that there are 12 bus stops in Marina that uh do not might not be in accordance with AB413. and they're requesting an ordinance that grants authority to operate and serve bus stops that fall within the newly restricted zone of crosswalks in our city. What is the procedure for this that needs to be probably need to ask our legal city attorney?

Sure. So, I I don't know the provisions that govern um bus stops, but I suspect there is. So, we would have to see how that works with AB413 and whether we need to really craft an ordinance to address uh bus stops that do not comply with uh AB413. So, I don't know the answer to that question. We would need to do some research. Uh but we can certainly work with MST to identify what they believe uh is inconsistent with this and go from there or ask our police officers not to be there when they stop at the bus stop. Well, even with if the officers are there

with any with any issue of citation, officers have leeway to make decisions based on the circumstances at hand. And my assessment of it is although by the letter of the law, it's a violation of the of that. This the bus isn't parking there. No, we're we're addressing the issue of vehicles being left there unattended. So, I don't think it's going to be an issue as far as enforcement goes. So, that is the easiest solution for this. Yeah. It says stopping, standing, or parking. Correct. That's the letter,

but it's up to the officer. Okay. And um just to remark that I looked it up, of course, $45 in 2015. You said it hadn't been changed probably in 10 years at least. $45 in 2015 is today is $61 and some cents. Uh just in for inflation. And of course, we the our uh salaries are increased every year. So, we just need to be realistic. I know it's it's it's usually the people who live in smaller units, you know, um who who have the, you know, it's not the people with the driveways. So, I agree it's unfair, but um we also need to be realistic about what it costs our city to issue the citations. And of course, um for the uh paint, you know, if any curbs get painted, maintenance because they can look very bad after all. So those are my remarks. Thank you.

All right. I I think it'd be good to call MST and ask what other cities language so we can use maybe their language. Okay, Council Member Biala and then McCarthy.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So I want I I know how people are feeling that we don't want to uh uh you know create more difficulties for people who maybe are have maybe more humble financial circumstances but the reason for this is safety. Um, when I have, you know, seen cars parked that close, I honestly feel like I'm going to, you know, scrape the car or something, you know, I just one you can't see, but then you're feeling like you're, you know, somehow. So, it's about safety. It's not about So, I I when we say punitive, yes, it is punitive because it's a safety for everyone about this. Absolutely. So, I just want to keep in mind that that's the viewpoint that I come from. So, um, and, uh, I want to see if a friendly amendment can be made, and that is to, uh, to consider, uh, staff to staff to consider red marking curbs the for for the more regularly proven abused curbs, and abused is not the right word, but I can't violate it. Okay.

And I don't know if you will accept that friendly amendment. Who was the who was the maker of the motion, Jane? I I was um I would prefer that maybe staff come back with the specific locations. Like for me, that's just a little broad. Maybe it's just staff direction. I'm not sure what's easier. Yeah, we

I don't know. Is it going to cost like a million dollars or 50,000? I mean, I just it's a little too broad for me. Um well I I don't I mean it's it's a judgment call of how many curbs. I mean I think it you know we can set it you know an amount. I don't know but I'm not suggesting that it be so you know budget breaking that you know but I think we need to consider it. Um and it will help with um the fines as well if people usually wouldn't park if they see a red red uh line uh curb paint. But at the same time, we can go ahead and issue a fine regardless of that.

But uh I don't know if if if we should come back again for this. It seems like a small thing that we could let the staff have a judgment about how much uh budget we have for that and and what you know how many curbs we would and based on the police's research. If Mayor I staff, they would be doing that anyway. And so if there if there's ever a problem area in the city, it we're going to take proactive action on that. So I I don't think we need that in the motion that we would just be doing that. There's a problem area, we would curb it anyway. I'm a little bit not so sure that that would get done unless we put it. Sorry.

So you can Do you want to put like a not to exceed? Okay. I'd be happy with that. Sure. It's just a little too broad for me. Yeah. I don't know what that number is. So, we have to get direction from, you know, the number of curbs or the amount of money or I don't know what the parameters are. I wouldn't be able to to say testify um speak on how much it would cost, but and I to to throw out a number of how many intersections would be the a hot

you'd have to do your research first to see the regular occurring ones. Yeah. And regardless of having those painted like we've talked about, it's a violation nonetheless. So the the if they're marked down the road and for a deterrent, it makes sense, but as of as it stands now, the enforcement is taking place regardless. So, right. I don't know. So, city manager, do you have a recommendation about what kind of parameter we can put on it so it doesn't exceed a price or the number of of curbs that we would prioritize for red painting?

Ishmail, do you have any thoughts? If I may, as he walks up, one of my concerns, and I think it's very valid, council member Biala, is there's actually many places in the city where there is a parking spot in an AB43 chain violation. So, it's almost like in one way the city is saying, "Hey, park here, but oh, if you do, we're going to give you a ticket." Um, and I think that's probably more prevalent than we think. And so, I'm a little worried about trying to go down this endeavor. It could get tricky quick. So, although I think your comment is valid and maybe um staff can can speak to that a little bit, but um I I really don't have a real good answer. A five gallon bucket of paint is $200 and uh you can paint a hundred uh locations with that. So,

okay. So, the cost material cost is inexpensive. It's the it's the labor cost. We don't have the staff to be doing that every year. Sure. Um, red paint fades pretty quickly on curbs. It's it's something that should be repainted every year. So, whatever we do, it's something we're doing every year. Uh, I I personally I think the best thing is if we plan to come back in 3 months with the numbers and we can tell you these are the hot spots and you can give us better direction on on which ones you want to paint. Okay. Um,

that sounds good. Just some sort of monitoring of it. the tickets may may go down as well as people get more used to the law. So 6 months from now, this might not even be a a might be a mood point because we sent out a lot offormational thing already on this, right? I mean, how long has it been since we've sent out things? Uh I know that that we have been doing that, right? A year ago. Okay. So, so I'm just saying this is a year after and we're still doing dozens of of uh citations on that point even though this is a newer law whether it's uh parking unlawfully in handicap spot or or red zones. Yeah. Regardless of how long they've been law, we still get tons of violations of those as well.

Okay. So, it's is this the primary uh violation that we're seeing parking? No. um we actually get quite a bit of violations of parking in a red zone. So even though it's the new one that people might not be familiar with, even ones that are well known are frequently as well. So Okay. Well, is it too much uh for you to just take what your citations have been and to just see if there are they fall on certain certain areas, certain curbs that seem to be we can get data on on where citations are issued and

um that's very much time. Okay. Okay. and then maybe pass it along to um public works and see what they have available in terms of manpower to do some of them as a priority.

Okay. So I don't know can can we still add that in is the recommendation is for uh the u the citations to be uh researched in terms of uh a list of the highest um uh areas that are violated and then um that list be uh given to public works to decide how many they could paint if any. Okay. So that's a friendly amendment. Okay. Did you understand that? Okay. Sure. That's great. Second.

Oh, can you please restate your friendly amendment? Okay. um for the police department to um to see to have a list of the the highest um uh areas that are that have the violations and then the pass that list to the public works department so they can decide um their resources to red painted. Okay. Do you understand that? Uh, Council McAdams. Yes. Thank you. And Brian? Yes. I can hold. Is this one that you'd want to be typed up on the screen so we know what we're talking about?

No, I'm good. Thanks. The new Brian. Well, because it's a recommendation. It's not I mean, we're not Yeah. Okay. All right. Um, it's a roll call, please. I do have a quick comment if I may. Um, before you go, uh, Elizabeth's been patient. Let's go to her.

Very patient. So I just wanted to let everybody know that public works already does red curb painting at requests or they look into requests at any request sent to the traffic advisory committee the TAC online city of marina.org. Um so they regularly do that. They they look at requests from people and I also agree with Commander Cox over time people will get used to it especially when you get tickets because neighbors will tell each other. I I'll repeat, I was born in a country where you never were allowed to park at any uh inter at any corner. Right, left, doesn't matter. You don't park right up to a corner because you know people will be crossing and you need to be able to see the people. So over time, people will get used to it. I hope so. But thank you.

Thank you, Council McCra.

Thank you, Mayor. Um just kind of a couple comments about this MST letter. I wish there had been a little bit more information. I know that AB413 already has exemptions for buses unloading and loading passengers. I think what they're getting at is, you know, sometimes buses will stop at an intersection because they're ahead of schedule or or a little little social break or whatever it is. I mean, I see it in Sand City, right, where they'll get out and they'll talk to the bus behind them or whatever. And I think that they do that at some of these intersections. And I I don't know how the council feels, but I for me I would be concerned about allowing um that behavior in light of AB413 that says that that that as you mentioned, council member Viser is dangerous um and and does create a public safety risk. So hopefully the police department is hearing that as well. You know that I mean I think we have to use a little bit of of um you know foresight in kind of what's happening here. But it would be good to get some clarity on what actually is being asked for and come to a consensus and give the direction of the city manager of what we really want to see here. That's it for me. Thank you.

Sorry. I think I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure that the the the stops where they wait multiple minutes if they're ahead, it's always at um uh traffic uh transit exchanges, you know, the where they are safe like what you say in Sent City. it's built into their schedules if they are ahead. So yeah, I don't think they'll stop at any regular bus stop for a long time. And I guess yeah, we would still really need to know what's being said here because like I said, there exemption in the law for Yeah, I will ask them. Thank you. Now a roll call vote, please. Council member McAdams, I. Council member McCarthy, yes. Council member Biala, yes. Mayor Prom Fischer, yes.

Mayor Delgado, yes. Okay, that motion passed unanimously. Thank you everyone, especially Commissioner Cox and your team. We move on to a potential ordinance approving the transfer responsibility. Who's going to build Se Haven City Park?

Uh, good evening, Mayor and members of the council. Um, before I get into this, I I just want to real quickly say that today is my oneyear anniversary working for the city of Marina. So, um, uh, you you haven't fired me, so now you're stuck with me. Um, uh, but, you know, for the for the past year, I've had a lot of people, um, uh, when I first came here, you relocating, I had people from home ask, "How how do you like it?" And I had people here ask, "How do you like it?" and and I kept saying it's it's perfect. Um sometimes I want to pinch myself to make sure that I'm you know I'm not I'm not dreaming. This is just such a good place. And um after a year I can say I I still feel the same way. I love working for the city Marina. I love um uh my boss and my my colleagues. We have just a good team. We have a good time. Um, Marina is is a very special place and so, uh, yeah, just pretty happy about that and thank you for hiring me and thank you for keeping me for the past year. Love being here. Um, so this item uh, a lot went into this, a lot of people. So, I will give an introduction. If you have any questions, I'll if I can't answer, then uh there's uh one, two, four people here, uh five, including Phil, that can answer something that I might not know. Um th this is a proposed third amendment to the Se Haven development agreement. The main purpose is to transfer the responsibility for constructing Sea Haven Park from the developer Trumark Companies to the city of Marina. This change allows the city to better control costs, use value engineering, and ensure the project stays within budget, especially given the increased costs and delays experienced so far. Historically, the project started with a 2004 development agreement, which was

later amended in 2018 and then again in 2023 to reflect changes in ownership, budget adjustments, and funding sources. Previously, the developer was responsible for building the uh the park with contributions from impact fees and other funds. However, due to rising construction costs, now estimated at over $6.5 million and unresolved differences, the city believes it's in its best interest to assume control of the park's construction. Staff recommends that council approve the resolution to endorse this transfer, eliminate the developer remaining financial contributions related to the park, and support the city's effort to complete and control the project. Importantly, uh the environmental review for the project remains valid with no new significant effects identified. And uh so in summary, the amendment will enable the city to proceed efficiently with the park construction, ensuring park, uh the project meets community needs and stays within budget and um happy to answer any questions that you may have. All right, let's um do we open a public hearing? Let's open a public hearing and get public comment on this item. Starting with anyone that's in the room. If you'd like to come up and speak, please do so at the podium. Then seeing no one standing, let's go online. Anyone online wish to speak? Please raise your hand. Let's go to likely uh Denise Turley. Welcome back, Denise.

Hi. Thanks. Um, so, um, I just want to make the general comment that there seems to be, um, a confusion amongst parks. We've had this conversation a few weeks ago. Um and um I spoke with uh Lane and he said that this park will in fact be open to all public that it is not because it's called Sea Haven Park that doesn't mean that it's exclusive. And so I I just want to say that out loud at the outset and um as a comment and um it's been a while. Let's get going. Thanks.

Thank you, Denise. Anyone else wishing to speak? We'll keep the public hearing open another moment for you to raise your hand.

Okay, we'll close public. had one question, Ishmael. Um, and maybe Lane, under the fiscal impact on page three of the staff report, it says that u to add up to the amount we need, it'll include we need 6.8 million. It'll include 3.8 million from the park development impact fees budget and then 650,000 from the public facility impact fee fund budget. So in this case, are those two funds kind of interchangeable? They both can be drawn from for Se Haven Park.

Yes, that's correct. Okay. And then by transferring or by using $650,000 um is there no other higher priority that on our project list of things to do that that public facility impact fee could go to? For example, a fire station. It's a public safety facility, but could this public facility impact money go to a fire station?

No. Okay. So is there I guess a better well for anyone either you or Lane or someone at staff is this the highest priority for everything that public facility impact fees could pay for?

I think um that's a loaded question. Um the uh city park at the dunes will be coming back to the council um dune uh our next council meeting December 16th and we have a shortfall um in that parks budget. Um so I can't say that that's the the highest priority. Um what we have is the plan for this uh park has been approved by city council. the developer came back and wanted to value engineer it and reduced a lot of the amenities of the park and the council said we did not want to do that and so the council directed staff to um keep those amenities back in the park and so this would be needed to uh what we think to implement what council did on that. Now, with that said, [clears throat] um if council approves this, um we will immediately be going out um to bid for this park. And when we go out to bid, we will have a better sense of exactly what those final cost um will be. And so, if all else goes well, we'll be fine or we may have to come back if it's a little shortened and make some decisions at that point.

Okay. Just wanted to put it out there. Let's go to Mayor Bratan Viser. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, and thank you for this presentation, Ismael. Um, I'll start with my last question actually. The city manager, so this will go out a bit very soon. Will we still get a chance to will the public and the council still get a chance to give comments about modifications to the the design? I know you're getting tired [clears throat] of this, but I'm thinking, of course, about maybe adding the pickle ball courts. How will that work?

That's a great great question. As we go out to bid, we're going to go out to bid with some ad alternates. And so, um, [clears throat] so we're not changing anything from the design council approval. We'll do add alternates for two pickle ball courts, additional two, an additional four pickle ball courts, and then we'll come back to council.

Okay, I totally understand that because we need to be done with changing designs at some point. Um, and I would like to thank Denise Turley for um, her remarks about this. It definitely it's a city park. It's open to everybody. And I know that there are plans to change names of parks in the future. Might be contest and so it it is in the works just to avoid any confusion. It will be good to have a different name. Same for the Dunes City Park. And it will not be Sea Haven Park and it will not be Dunes Park.

Yes. And uh just a um I've made this remark before the $2.1 million in 2018, Google is waiting my friends uh will be 2.7 about 2.7 today. Um I know the developer might be online. If the developer would choose to send a little bit more more money or just forget about subtracting the cost for the design, I think nobody would protest at our city because come on, they're not selling their homes for the prices from 2018. And I know for the future I hope that our city if we ever do another agreement like this while we can negotiate because they requested an expense extension of the time that we I hope we can build in a condition that the it's not a fixed amount. The amount will be indexed every year with the CPI or uh construction cost index because I this is so sad for our city. We're always getting the short end of the stick here and then by the time we finally get around to constructing it, oops, we we don't have enough money. So, um, city attorney or city manager is is from now on or you're already doing that for any agreements if there is any money involved from developers, can we have that condition that it will be indexed? Well, I I don't know that there's any agreement currently that we're negotiating where that would be.

But if it ever comes up, will Sure. Will there be Yeah. somebody thinking about this? Consider that. Yes. You're still young. You might still be here. So, [laughter] but like I said, I think um if anybody likes to send us more money, there's no objection to that. That is we can Okay, because I see one name here that's they will be hearing this. So, thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Ismo. Elizabeth, thank you, Council Member Miala.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So, I love this term valued engineering. I don't know who came up with it, but it just was such a euphemism for making something cheaper. [laughter] Anyway, um so it's astounding to me and a lesson for all of us. You know, this thing has been going, as Denise Turley pointed out, forever and we went from 2 million to now almost 7 million. It's just like mindboggling to me. Um but uh having said that I I did ask the city manager can we do this new method of construction manager at risk so we would stay within the budget uh you know and he said and I've learned this that that that methodology is really for like 40 to $50 million projects and not you know ones like this. So, um, but yes, you know, cost is obviously escalating beyond any of our wildest imaginations, but anyway, it sounds like the developer and the city are in agreement for this, and I think it puts to to bed so many of the difficulties we've have over these many years. I remember uh debating this in council uh very early on in my first term and we were talking about adding another bathroom and that stopped everything in its tracks and then it disappeared for a long time. So, it's been has a difficult history and I and I agree. I think, you know, we put a lot of effort in the city manager to get an agreement like this and I think I'm I I'm very happy to to hear too in writing that if we agree to this then by February can start opening the bid. That's fantastic. So, we need to accelerate this process.

Absolutely. Yes. Thank you very much. You any other Well, does someone want to make a motion? a motion that we adopt the ordinance before us approving the transfer responsibility to the city and that uh we find the project consistent with environmental impact report certification for the Marina Heights specific plan. I second. All right, final questions or comments for a vote. Can we have a roll call, please? Anita. Council member McAdams. Hi. Council member McCarthy, yes. Council member Viala, yes. Mayor Prom Viser, yes. Mayor Data.

Yes. All right. Thank you everyone. That motion passes unanimously. We have a couple of uh consent items. Let's start with 10B 13B. 13B designating city hall uh parking areas or no parking areas.

Good evening, council. Um so this item came about um part of my job as a city planner is to think ahead. So, I'm very fortunate as a city employee that, uh, the city sends me to different APA and different planning director trainings. So, um, so there was a project that we approved about a year and a half ago up the street. It's a 15 unit project. Um, there was a bill that got adopted that I learned about at an APA conference, AB2097, which took effect about a year year and a half ago. Um, if you're within a half mile of a major transit stop, the city planning department, we can't ask for parking minimums anymore. And so I worked with our GIS team from Rencon to create well what is that half mile half mile buffer around the MST site. And as you can see it's a sizable portion of our downtown area. And so that got me thinking with this project at Hillrest that we had just approved with the training that I had gone to for the APA conference, um it probably would have been it probably is a good idea to push forward an ordinance amendment uh recommending that this city hall uh really for your constituents be used for city business and be used as a parking space. So people can come to these meetings, come to planning commission meetings and really uh be reserved for that purpose. Um similar to what Commander Cox mentioned, there's a provision in the California Vehicle Code that if the council does want to push that forward,

we have to identify fines that are generally in range with our neighboring cities. So, working with the city attorney, similar, we found a similar fine provision of around $45. And this is the draft resolution. And once again, this is a completely voluntary matter. I'm only doing this to support you and your constituents so people can come to these meetings to voice their opinions about matters and to come get involved with city politics for permits or whatnot. But it really is um consequential um because of that buffer from the MST site that that Oh, why is it I went too far? Sorry. Um you were briefing through to the last one. There was a slide that has some higher uh numbers,

right? Can you show that or is that not to be shown? Of course. No, this is all public. Next. Okay. So, you fast forward that. Uh there. That's what I was talking about. That was the other issue we heard about earlier. Okay. Sorry. Different different issue.

Yeah, different issue. But I originally wrote the report as web report. So there has similar formatting. So okay um so I think we go to public comment now. Anyone here here in the room that wants to speak please stand and come to the podium. See no one rise. We'll go online. Anyone online wish to speak please raise your hand so you can do so. We'll give you a moment before we end public comment. Okay, we'll close public comment. Council member McAdams.

Thank you, mayor. And um I'm just curious. So, the no parking areas would be between the hours of 1:00 a.m. to 6:00 a.m. That's correct. So, so the how does that help people who want to come to a 6:00 p.m. meeting? Uh so so the idea is presumably the council meetings would be done by one o'clock in the morning which here other cities that's not the case. So the idea would be that people would park here for the meetings and then um we would have to work with our police department in terms of how we actually identify uh people who are here. Um, but the the general idea is not to have it be an overnight parking stay.

Got it. Okay. So, I I think the thought with that is people in the neighborhood, if they're finding a parking spot, they need to find it earlier. And so, they're they're not going to be trying to park in here when we need it, like during counsel and things like that. They're going to be needing to find it elsewhere. And so what we're trying to do is from the 1:00 am on um not allowing parking here and we think the effective is they will have to find it um elsewhere. That makes sense. Probably looking

okay. I mean, I just I I'm just curious like do we already have employee parking stickers and is are there signs like um city hall parking only designated spots? I'm just wondering. I mean, I don't think it's realistic that Commander Cox is going to send a police officer here every day at, you know, 105 or whatever to ticket people that are parking overnight. So, I'm just curious if there's a a another way to to do this. I just for me, you know, I I see a lot of policies that just don't get enforced. And so, I want to make sure like I absolutely understand why you want to do this and thank you, you know, for having that initiative, but I just want to make sure that it works and it and it does what the outcome that you want it to do,

right? So, I'm just curious. Did you look at other options or do we have employee stickers? Uh we do not have employee stickers at this point. Okay. We did talk about that internally and so as we implement implement this if it becomes an issue or problem then we have the ability um to do that to you start really posting signs required stickers and things like that. Got it. Okay. And then for me, like when you pull into here, there's no signage that says like city hall parking only. So I think that would just be a natural first step,

right? And part of the motion is to not this motion, but it's I keep going forward too much. I don't know why. [laughter] Uh part of the motion is to if the council approves it to uh direct the city public works department to put up the signs. Perfect. Okay. Great. Thank you so much. And um I appreciate this initiative and um you know even tonight we couldn't really find parking. [laughter]

I mean really it's it's very um it's challenge. It can be challenging and this is empty so it's like where are the cars coming from? So thank you Guido. Let's go to our city attorney.

Sure. So, so when I uh discussed this with staff really there were kind of two issues. One was the potential for overnight parking and then separate and apart regulating sort of uh a parking lot in and of itself during you know city business hours. Uh and I've advised that um I think the city would be well within its rights to put up signage limiting parking for city business. So I don't think you'd need a resolution of ordinance amendments for that. Uh but for the overnight parking perhaps it would be uh better to have something uh on the books. Okay. Thank you, Council Member McCarthy and then Viola.

Thank you, Mayor. Um as Council Member McAdams mentioned, I mean, we had a hard time parking. I'm parked out in the the fire police spot between six and whatever right now. And um that was the only thing open. Um and Hillrest isn't even built yet. So, I think we're going to be back here in in 8 months, which I really don't love. I I would hope that we could maybe tackle this issue now. You know, I'd like to see a paradigm where we say for city business only, we issue staff permits and everybody else has four hour whatever it is, two hours, right? Um and I know we don't have a parking enforcement staff, but I would hope that would be enough to deter um the problem that already exists h having said that Hillrest isn't even built yet and there are other projects in the pipeline. So, um, while I appreciate this, I just I think we're going to be back. Um, I don't think it probably goes far enough. Um, in fact, I honestly don't know that it re how much it really helps us at all. Um, I don't think we know until we we go through the exercise. So, I mean, for me, we could either approve it or not or or we could come back and ask for something more a little bit more strict. Uh, thank you, mayor. Thank you, Council Ria.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yeah, I had a little bit of trouble understanding like like um council member McAdams was saying at first I was going why those hours like how will that help us? But our city manager pointed out that people are parking overnight and that makes the big difference. Um, so if they're parking there because they're not going to use their car or, you know, somebody's visiting or something and they're parking it and they're using their other vehicle or they're using the bus, then I can see that they're using our our parking lot at for their personal uses and that we have to really curb. Um, but again, I'm not so sure either, you know, how effective this is going to be for that. And you know to the point of enforcing like six what what time do the police the the um shifts start here like is the police officers?

Yeah 6 a.m. is I mean you you start at 7 a.m. nurses start at 7 but yeah we we have varying shifts but our primary tombs are at 7 a.m. and 7. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe seven is a better number if you're going to be Well, the reason Guido and I spoke about this one reason is determining where that vehicle belongs. It's part of the process of issuing a citation.

Should a council meeting go late and someone is here sitting along, we don't want that person sighted. So therefore, that's where the 1:00 a.m. And this coincides with another parking violation uh time frame wise of camping in a vehicle. You can sleep in your vehicle up until 1 o'clock in the morning technically, but not between 1 and five. So they're this same time frame. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Let's go to Mayor Ban Viser. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yeah, I think enforcement at night is the easiest or not. I mean, it's very obvious if there's a car between 1 and 6 a.m. It should not be there. And if they have time,

you come to a briefing and tell the officers that because I say that all the time.

I still need to I need still need to sign up for my ride along or I used to call it drive by this. I know that's not okay. But um so for me I would say yeah I start definitely start with this and see how it works and uh if if any other signs like city business only that's way harder to enforce because you need to follow people where do they go and do they visit a neighbor and then they go into city hall or anyway but um I would like to go even further. I don't I know public works commission recommended to do this only for this parking lot and staff added uh the public works building planning building the annex which makes total sense but we already know we will need this at the future city parks at sea haven and the dunes we need no overnight parking there so do we need to go through this process again or can we already throw that in and save some time at a future meeting or

sorry you just need to do it by resolution, which is what you're doing here, is just designate area. So, in this case, you would be able to designate the Sea Haven Park in the future as a no parking area between 1:00 a.m. and 6:00 a.m. So, that has to be a separate process or can be added on. No, that would be a separate process. Oh, okay. That's too late. That's a singlestep process. Our parks are already closed. And you mean I think between sunset and sunrise. Exactly. We already have that. You can't And that's the that is the violation that we utilize as current enforcement now for any city park which is park

but but like at the dunes you will have parking at the city at the streets. It will be very good I think to have signs there to make it very clear for people the wedding cannot park at the corner. No overnights. Yeah. So anyway, we we'll do I guess we'll have to spend some time on it when the time comes. So, but thank you for this. Very clear. Thank you. Thank you, Council McCarthy. Nope.

Would anyone like to make a motion? I'll motion we adopt the resolution before us um designating city hall 211 Hillrest and permit center 209 Cypress as no parking areas between 1:00 a.m. and 6 a.m. and placing appropriate signs as authorized by our code sections. Finding these and finding these actions are SQA California Environmental Poly Act uh exempt. Second. Okay, any final questions before we go to a vote? Um, can we have a Don't need a roll call. All in favor, please say I. I. I.

All oppose, please say no. Any abstensions? Does that pass unanimously uh with the five of us? Thank you very much, Guido. So, we'll go now to uh some full consent items starting with what was 10 M1 the uh appointments to city council uh at other agencies. And I wanted to run through this and then open it up to others. Um under number under special districts, so this would be on I mean to go from start to finish. So on page one of exhibit A, Monterey County Mosquito Abatement District to turn that to Jenny instead of Brian because he wants to stay with Ambe. He's in position to be chair and Jenny has let me know that that's fine. So Jenny would be mosquito abatement district representative for us. And then moving to page two of four, I have just a slight change swapping um Associated Monterey government uh making Brian the primary and Jenny the alternate with myself remaining as the second alternate. So Brian would stay as the member and Jenny and I would be successive uh alternates. Then going to page three, transportation agency, Monterey County, swapping uh Council Member McAdams and Viser. Because Elizabeth and I are working on Tamy and MST issues all the time, it makes a lot of sense that uh Elizabeth be the primary alternate and Jenny moving to the secondary alternate for uh Tamy and then moving to

that was three or four. Moving to four or four. Uh, I have no changes. Um, so now let's turn it over to Council Member McCarthy.

Thank you, Mayor. Um, I think you've said what I was going to say. I, you know, for those that are watching that are curious how the sausage is made, I think it's worth pointing out that, you know, these commissions and boards are a lot of work for all of us. Um, there are days when I wake up and hope that I'm not on any. Um, and so I'm appreciative of of everybody for the role that they they play. I mean, often times these meetings are a repeat of what you see here tonight. Um, you know, another day during the week. So, um, you know, I think about what's best for the people of Marina and I am, uh, was second vice president of Amag now first vice president in line to be president. I think that is good for the city to be in that pipeline. If someone new was to take over, it would start over. Um, I had a new another comment that kind of escaped me. If I think of it, I'll I'll raise my light again. Thank you. I thank you, Mr. Mayor. On number four, the Monterey County Convention and Visitors Bureau. Um, Elizabeth is the member, and I I would like to volunteer uh to be the alternate, and it's called an official. Did you say

Oh. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. So, I'll be uh the al alternate because we're already working together on many C Monteray projects, so might as well do this. Great. Thank you, Kathy. Mayor Bertam Fisher. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yes. And in addition to that, it would be good to change the name from the Monterey County Convention and Visitors Bureau. It's Sim Mon, which is so much easier. And it's Sim Mon County, by the way. But I Mon County, no, officially, but no, they just say SE Mon. This is just one of my bad views. And then for the rest, um I will miss the public works commission. So, [laughter] I might still show up. All right.

But I me but I'm excited to see that um um to um start attending the recreation and community services commission meetings. So, thank you for that.

Okay. Thank you. So, I'll motion that we approve this appointment schedule with council member McAdams on the mosquito abatement district. Brian McCarthy the member on ambag with council McAdams his alternate and then me but that's already there that uh Elizabeth become the number one alternate to Tamy and council me Adams being the second alternate Kathy Biala being the alternate to Elizabeth on the C Monteray and that's my motion oh and the C monteray change that becomes the new name uh for Monterey County Convention Visitors Bureau on this.

Second. I second. Okay. Any final? Well, let's go to the public. Um, anyone here? Not seeing anyone rise from their empty chairs. Let's go to online. Oh, it's a consent item. Okay. Any final comments before we vote? All in favor, please say I. I I I

uh any nos or abstensions? All right, that passes unanimously. We're going to 10 G2 the agreement between um our city and Greyar. And let's turn this over to Mayor Prom Fischer. She pulled it and others have comments as well.

Yes. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And uh thank you for staff for pro for having prepared this report. And um I want to start by saying I don't want to hold anything up. I don't see any reason for not to approve this amendment, but it's a good reason for me or um to uh ask my fellow council members that I think you know we are bored. We have we formed a board for the Abrams Park and Western Park um [clears throat] communities and I think we need way more information which staff already added to the included in the staff report that from now on racear will start providing quarterly reports. Um but I would like to also go over policies. I um I don't want to talk uh get [clears throat] into too much detail, but I was contacted by a tenant a couple months ago. There was an issue with getting an what she called an eviction notice. Turned out she had signed an an early termination. She said without realizing it or whatever the reason was. This was a very stressful um situation for this tenant and her three children. So this woke me up kind of like hey they're contacting us you know we are the boards they and I'm also the council member for that district so I would like to review all all the current procedures see what we can approve um Denise Turley already mentioned it and another um was it Linda I think at the public comments at the beginning of the meeting they also requested to um which I didn't know by the but they requested to look into how we can work better together. So, I would like to get this started. I don't know what's the best way to do this. Maybe city manager can tell us or the legal city attorney.

Um I I think probably that the first place to start would would be we'll sit down with Grace and our with their management team and talk about our existing policies and procedures and get a understanding what's in existing we'll have renev involved in that process. We'll look at uh we'll have him go over the existing lease in detail. What are the requirements in the existing lease? Uh and then I think that'll be a start then kind of come back to council. Um okay, because I as you know I I sent emails with as usual many many words. I apologize for that. But uh because I also would like to know how do tenants uh receive the the policies that are in place. How do they know how can they appeal? If there is a violation or courtesy notice that they don't agree with there needs to be a procedure that's there isn't there needs to be a clear policy or procedure without having to go to the court. you know, courts. I know that's an American thing, but I think so many issues can be solved without litigation and and it's just another step that might cost people money. So, um so how soon can staff come back to the council? I assume that my fellow council members uh would like this too or

I just let me interrupt to give the city attorney some input. Um so just some some thoughts in terms of the policies. Um I guess my the first thing was probably maybe what we need to understand what Greyard does as far as education about existing policies because there's a pretty detailed grievance procedure that is set forth in the current agreement that I understand and that's one of the documents mayor that you pointed out that didn't have any signatures but it appears that that's a document that needs to be signed by every tenant. So I think there's probably an educational component um to understand that those existing procedures um and how tenants are made aware of those and then also maybe understanding how Greyar administers that procedure as well. So um that's one finding out more information and then the second thing would be trying to find out if there's anything that we need to do to amend that and we would bring that back to the council for that purpose. Um, uh, I know you potentially as a board would maybe want to make ultimate decisions, but I also want to advise that you also are the land owner. So, we'd have to figure out a way that there could be a process that perhaps doesn't involve you, but there's a process short of the court that can probably be set up uh, for this purpose to address some of these issues. So, we can look into that.

Yes. Thank you. Yeah, I don't I don't want to say that it has to be the council members who do it. I just want there to be a procedure where the tenants can go to can go outside of the management company to get their uh grievance if that's the word heard. And I also want that to be a policy that we are the we are the owners, you know, we are the the the board that I want us to tell the the the management company how um uh violation or courtesy notices are being handled and make sure that they're being closed and not that if a tenant goes to goes to the office say, "Hey, it wasn't me. It wasn't my garbage can. It wasn't my car." There needs to be a followup for that. That's and not like, oh no, now you have so many violations and now you're in trouble. That's that's and having worked in property management of course it's my my field and I know that's always closer to somebody's hearts but we're talking about people's housing and when people are afraid that they might that they don't know if they will still have housing by the end of the month that is very stressful and that is something so serious that I think we we as a board need to have very clear policies for that so

and just to describe so there is a currently sort of a two two-step process in the grievance procedure. One of them is to deal with it informally with management. The second step would be with a hearing officer that is you know to be retained by the city but you know does not work for management or the city or the tenant in that respect. Yes. And it might have been person.

So there might have been a misunderstanding, but the tenant really thought that she had received an eviction notice and just even for a tenant to have that idea, that thought whatever went wrong, this is not how we should be treating our tenants. And um so it will anyway, it will be good to go over all this and I'll try to be patient, but can you give me a timeline? [laughter] I know the holidays are coming up, but I I would say four to six months, honestly. Um, okay. Can we make it four? We'll we will shoot from

Can we make Well, let me say it's it's Can we call it Can we make it by the end of April or I I might be out of style. End of May. End of May. We will we will have something back to you by the end of end. End of May. Okay. So that we don't get it. Yeah. Thank you. All right. Let's go to Council Member McAdams.

Thank you, Mayor. Um just a a resource for renters. Um there is echo housing which provides, you know, free counseling um and mitigation. They would look at that document and and help that renter sort of explain what that is. Um and they do have um in office hours um at Pacific Grove City Hall the fourth Wednesday of the month as well as in Selenus Tuesdays and Thursdays at the community impact center. So that's like a nice free resource. I also think too, even though our housing programs manager wouldn't necessarily be managing the units, but I think that that um key position that remains funded and unfilled could be a liaison with Greyar. Um and so again, I will advocate for let's have a housing programs manager because we really need one. Um, and then going back to the fire uh or I'm sorry to the renters's insurance requirement. Um, you know, as the mayor prom said, like we're the owners and for years we've put our tenants in a vulnerable position and now we're reactive because there was a fire and all of the renters who were impacted by the fire did not have renters's insurance. And so, shame on us and I know that we can do better. Um, the last thing that you want or that I want to see our tenants is, you know, not only do you lose everything, everything, you know, you have no place to stay, you don't have, you know, now you're having to eat your meals out and

renters's insurance, um, which I have through my car insurance. I think it's like $27 a month, but that's what it's there for. and they will put you in a hotel. They will give you a daily PDM. They will help you with gas money. Um, so I really encourage staff to the way that it's in the agenda report is a little ambiguous. I can't tell if it's starting in the first quarter or it's going to start when people renew their leases or if everybody's doing it. So, that probably needs to be a little fine-tuned. But I would absolutely suggest that all the tenants are required to get renters's insurance. It's in the lease. I don't understand why it's been like not applicable. Um but as soon as possible and that it be, you know, communitywide, not just when people renew. Um and so, you know, I think for us, um we need to be better property owners. That's what I'm hearing. Um, and I don't know what that looks like. Um, but you know, we are we oversee the management company. You know, I've also heard from the residents that they feel very disconnected and so how how do we fix that too? Um so anyways I I am appreciative of the um tenants who trust us and come to us when they have issues. Um I think that's very important but also like I don't want to be a property manager you know and so we have to um just figure this out and and do better. Thank you.

Thank you Jenny. Let's go to Council Member Biala.

Thank you Mr. Mayor. So I think um Mayor Prom's comment um is very important you know saying that you know her example of um and that we need some kind of third party access when there are complaints. I don't know that I as a council person want to be reviewing the policies. I think we need might need as as our attorney city attorney says is that he will do a legal review and and scrutinize those things and we and apparently they do have a two-step grievance process but somewhere along the line they reached out to you because they didn't know the second part of that there is a third party separate from the management company that they could have reached out to and I think we need to examine how they're approaching that how do they inform uh the tenants about um this the second step which is so important because it is the more objective third party um because I don't think that we should be the recipients of complaints um at at that level but we are the owners and we have a special obligation and it sounds like we we don't we have not had um any oversight in any of our staff right have ne never been assigned who is this third third party second uh second uh grievance step. Who who is who who is that?

So this would be a hearing officer. It's some legal one. Okay. Employed on a sort of ad hoc basis, but we'd want to as we have with other provisions in our ordinance. We've been looking at those processes. We want to nail down how that hearing officer gets selected, whether we have a panel already sort of in place. So there are different things that we need to look at um to make sure that when somebody takes advantage of that process that there is actually someone there that can fill that over here.

And that's a pretty that's already uh a pretty serious step because it involves a legal step. But I wonder if there is another step that outside of the management company, somebody on our staff can can actually be available to sort of if there's a grievance that's not resolved that it goes to somebody on our staff to do a a better evaluation and do intervention. And then there's a third step if it gets to that point where there's a legal review of this because I think that it seems like we're we jump from sort of being sequestered in the management company and then it jumps to legal and I would like to see a second step, but we don't really have anybody on staff. Our city manager can answer that right now. Um [clears throat] uh when our assistant city manager position is filled, if that person is is responsible for the Abrams and Preston Park, um we also will have a housing manager position that's filled that will also help us on the housing. And so we will have we do have staff that will be

that will be okay. So So that would be the the second step I'm talking about. And the third third step is the legal intervention. And those are things that yeah that we'll be working with our attorney looking at our policies and procedures and we'll be coming back to counsel

great because we could add that step in. So, but um I want to thank Mayor Pro for calling that out for us. Um, so I understand that, you know, this person may have received something similar and it is very scary. I remember when I received mine, I thought, "Oh my gosh, am I getting kicked out already?" Um, but it's it's it's best practice. It's standard language. So, um, I would I would not want to see us not use those best practices to notify residents of of violations. Um, even if they are scary. That's me personally. I think there are some ways that we could attach maybe a memo saying, "Hey, look here for more information to say,"Hey, this is standard language, right? Like, try not to lose sleep over it kind of thing." Um, I take a little bit of an alternate view. I think we're paying good money, Greyar, uh, to manage these properties. If they're not doing a good job, then we need to find a new manager. And if they are, then we need to let them do their job and and manage the properties. It's just kind of my opinion. We pay them to take some of that burden off of us. Um, and so I think we just really need to have that discussion. Either they're doing what we are paying them to do or they're not. Um, and if they're if they're not, then let's work with them to get them more in line with what we want them to do. Um, there are some issues that, as Council Member Viser mentioned, that I'd love to have come back to us. Um, our smokefree policy is one of them. I believe it's a smokefree property as it is. Um,

that's correct. Okay. Do we I mean do do we know if we get complaints that people are smoking anyway? We do. So I think that's an area where we can probably there's an opportunity to step up enforcement um uh and look at those things. I did read through the Greyar um kind of standard language and they talked about some additional insurance beyond renters's insurance like flood insurance and we're not requiring that though, right? That's correct. Not for the tenant. Okay. Um there there's a couple areas um that in our city's policy we cover flood insurance.

Okay. I know for me every apartment building I've ever lived in has required renters's insurance. I did some research and that statistics are between 80 and like 95% of all apartment owners in the country require it. So I'm a little embarrassed that we haven't required it up till today. Um but I'm glad that we're we're fixing that and and looking to um move forward in a positive direction. So, um I think those are my comments. Um yeah, my thank you, mayor.

Okay, we'll go back to Mayor Prom in just a moment. Um I think everyone can improve and when a council member finds something that doesn't seem right. Uh they're doing their job if they get involved like Elizabeth did. She spent a lot of time on this. And when she pulled me in, what I learned was that the tenant received some kind of a notice that she had to move out by October 31st. And it was early October or late um September. And that caused her a lot of stress. As you can imagine, it's not easy to move and find a place that you can afford. So her children and her were quite stressed while they were working with Elizabeth to try to understand what was really coming down the down their way. And so Elizabeth has spent some time and has some suggestions of of improvement. And I think there's always room for improvement. So, I appreciate the time she spent with the city manager, myself, and with the tenant to try to step in and help that out immediately, but then bring it to our attention to try to prevent that sort of thing from happening in the future. Um, language is often a barrier. Uh, some of us have gone door to door in Preston and Abrams for different reasons and we find a lot of people of uh second language as their first language. I mean, you know, um, non-English speakers as their first and it's difficult to understand these, uh, notices, as you mentioned, the verbiage they use, Council Member McCarthy, is kind of scary. And, uh, maybe it's not, they don't understand what that means if it's the first time they've seen that language. And so, I wonder what we do to accommodate those who have used English as a second language with these complicated documents and these arrangements. And then when they have a question or they want to understand the process of first step informal, second step hearing

officer really do we expect them to understand that. So you know probably everyone can do a better job including us uh to under to to accommodate those folks. Um, I recently got involved uh just trying to help a couple out that needed a a place to live. And so we went to Preston Park and we were told there is no wait list or market rate units that interested parties just need to keep calling back the office to check if there's a unit available and that the reason there's no wait list is because when they had a wait list it was longer than two years which was ineffective. So they did away with the wait list, but they have a wait list for affordable units and the wait list is two to six years. No, two to two to five years, but in reality it's 3 to 8 years, they told me. So you have a weight list for affordable units that doesn't really work. And you don't have a weight list for market rate units because the weight list didn't work for that. So it left me thinking there's room for a weightless policy that's different than our current weightless policy. And it doesn't have to come to us as the board, but us as the board should be aware of these issues. When we become aware of them, we should share it with others. Um online information in this process, I looked online and what I couldn't find were prices for affordable units. When I was in person, they wouldn't give me the prices for affordable units. So, the couple I was with didn't know what their options were. They go market rate, how much is it? They go affordable unit, how much is it? So, that information is proprietary for some reason. There's probably good reason for it, but it's not very good service to the couple who's thinking about getting on a wait list and paying a $35 fee and a $200

non-refundable fee if they get a unit available and they don't take it. Um, so there was room there. And then uh when a a friend called they were told on the phone that they couldn't give out the address to the office which is on the website 479 or 679 wall court. Um so so how we handled phone information um communication might have some some room for improvement. So I think that up until now we as a board have been fairly disconnected from policy and we probably need to stay disconnected to some extent but to some extent we probably need to be more connected than we've been. The staff is very kind at Preston Park and they they they are very helpful uh but they don't necessarily make the policy. they're working the office and uh I think that when it comes to things like weight lists and language barrier accommodations, we probably don't need to recreate anything. You know, we go to Chispa provides a lot of affordable housing. We go to other entities that like us own residential housing, you know, public residential housing and we just take their policies and and make them our own to whatever extent that that work would be. But we don't need to recreate anything as simple as weight lists or the kind of things that we've heard others bring up tonight. Okay. Um now we'll go back to Mayor Bam Viser.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yes, I I want to make it clear, you know, I'm not saying that the management company is not doing a good job. We we are the ones who need to do a better job like council member MacArthur McAdams sorry already said and we are responsible for policym so um and just as an example you know a neighborto neighbor dispute I was shocked to to hear that a notice get gets posted on the front door this is the last thing you want to do when you have an issue with your neighbor upstairs downstairs you don't want the neighbor to see like oh they're getting another notice you know this So this is for us to say you know you send notices by USPS you you use our mail um and um so yeah weight list policy that needs to be transparent. We need to know who's on the list and what what what how far are you on the list? How what are your chances? How long you know we cannot say exactly but yeah you're getting more to the top. I mean, this is housing we're talking about. We have a housing crisis. And um so my last question for the city manager is um how are we doing with hiring a new assistant city manager and a housing manager?

Let's make sure that's within the scope of this. Oh, I'm sorry. Or well, this is because we need those people to Yeah. I mean, it's not necessarily within the scope, but if he's got the information he can just provide it, not necessarily for discussion. I'm not asking names. I'm just asking are we

uh on the assistant city manager? There's two finalists that I'm be interviewing. The housing manager should be posted soon. Okay. So, that has not been posted yet. Okay. So that's why we did don't have anybody yet probably. Yes. Okay. That's Thank you. This was it for me. Okay. Do we want to entertain a motion? Council Mayor Bratan Fisher. Yeah, I think I can just um I move to approve.

Second. Okay. Any final coun city manager lane long? I just oh just kind of from all of them.

Thank you both. One comment and I think this is this was great um feedback from the council and and I think as you talked about we can all improve and make things better. But I did want you to know that with our um Preston Park loan, part of the process required um last week a site inspection of of the whole property. And uh and we just heard back from the um from the person in the firm doing the site inspection and they said the property is in fantastic shape and they said there's a couple couple minor issues. Um so the good part is that um that was a major hurdle we need to clear for getting our loan approved. The other part of that is um they randomly selected units. They went inside and so I spent the first hour randomly going in six or eight units. Uh, and I can tell you that every unit I went in, they they raved about how much they appreciated Greyar and and they talked about their staff and how good they were. These are people there from 15 years, 30 years, one was there you 20, 25 years and and so from that random walk through and and I and I get that that we we hear from the public there's problems and that's good. I mean, that's how we improve. That's how we, you know, correct things. And uh [clears throat] but I just want to let you know on that random inspection that six or eight homes I went to, the feedback was was great. That's a good part.

Yeah, that's huge. And it points out that sometimes the big picture is going really well and and the little picture isn't perfect. There's always room for improvement, but it's easy for me to forget how well things are going overall. And we haven't had hardly any complaints the last many years. And we used to get a lot of complaints every year. So something is different. Something and it's very better. It's it's it's different in a much better way. It's been much improved. And I think that's because staff and the property managers have just learned to uh to be better at everything they do. It's not easy. So thank you Lane for pointing that out. Random visits are a great way to get the pulse. Okay, so we have a motion to approve both resolutions before us and the recommended u staff recommendation to approve this amended contract agreement. So all in favor please say I.

I. All oppose please say no. All right, that motion passed unanimously. on the mayor's association. We met in November uh in Marina at Brass Tap. It's the first time we've met in former Ford. We always used to we always went to central Marina restaurants, but I thought it was time. It was there's so much to see from sitting down at Brass Taps outside and I myself was pretty amazed. If you sit outside Brass Tap and you look south, you can't see the end of new buildings. It looks like a little city has popped up brand new and modern. And that's that's you don't see that very often, especially in a town our size. Uh, of course, all the other mayors were were um, you know, it was remarkable for everyone to be there and the service was great. The food was great.

Jealous, the word you're looking for, maybe [laughter]

the day was sunny and wonderfully perfect. Not always do we get that kind of weather. Uh we talked about the count the county had their uh uh assistant administrative officer there and she talked about basically the county wos and how to make their budget work they had to uh uh cut out from the budget all unoccupied all vacant positions. I mean just imagine making that kind of a a butcher knife to all vacant positions and they're not done. They might have to come back and and do some more budget cuts. So, um, we we and Marina are fortunate in many ways. Um, but that was obvious during that lunch meeting at Marina at Brass Tap. Okay. Uh if we have any council reports on meetings, that brings up a uh meeting that council uh Mayor Prom and I went to uh MST uh posted a tour of the construction going on uh for the surf project. It's an immense project and I think it's going to have the biggest bus station in Monterey County. It's going to be at Fifth Street out the dunes and it's going to connect to a lot of other U bus lines that aren't connected now in the way that it is. And we found some things such as uh they're going to put a nasty Krail type concrete barrier permanently alongside the bike path, the recreation trail that goes under the under the freeway, the underpass, and goes out to the beach. The last thing you want is an ugly wall barrier when you're going to the nice beach. You know, it's like something you wouldn't see in Carmel or Monteray or PG. And so we said, you can't put a K rail without some kind of art or something. Oh, you can't put art.

You might not even be able to put horizontal lines because CALR is so their specific, their specs are so tight. It's just maybe going to be an ugly wall forever. And uh uh MST got back to us and said, uh we're going to continue looking into it. and county supervisor said, "Well, can we contact our assembly person and state senator?" And so we contacted John Leairard and Don Addis. Within minutes, they had sent each of them um emails to Calrans. And within an hour, Calrans had responded that Ishmael who kind of let us know that Calrans was uh misunderstanding how the funding was going to work and so they didn't want to release uh funding that Tampy had already gotten for us. Long story short, uh you know, within a couple days, uh they had met with Ishmael, the CALR representatives, and everything's smooth. We're not going to lose the project. and Vishmael was worried that this hold up in funding could seriously um risk losing the whole project which is the new signal on Third Avenue in Mjim Parkway that it has funding but that funding was held up and that project may not have been able to have happened if it wasn't for quick action by Don Addis and uh John Leairard. So that was a meeting that we attended and it had some real consequence because what are we going to know about um different things. Uh, so I guess that was kind of confusing, two different issues, but they both related to Calrans and uh, now we need to follow up with CALR on their specs because when I was driving down south to see my mom or with my mom to see her old house last week, they had exactly what we wanted on the median wall of a kilt type barrier

that had horizontal lines and picture and and shadows of mountains because we were next to the San Gary. mountains and it's like okay. So then we sent those photos to MST who's going to take him to CALR. So I'm sorry for confusing those two issues and I was temporarily confused myself but we had a great um meeting with MST's touring the surf and it brought up a couple of issues and uh so that was good. Ishmael, we were just giving you a shout out for working through the third avenue I imagin parkway signal funding and working with CALR to unstick that funding. So, thank you for that. Okay, anyone else with reports on meetings? All right, we are journ. Thank you everyone.