City Council - Regular Meeting

Hi. We got a minute. Don't be fashionably late. Good afternoon. Today is Tuesday, April 21st, 2026. This is a regular meeting of the city of Marina City Council. I will call this meeting to order. Anita, can we please get a roll call?

Council member McAdams here. Council member McCarthy here. Council member Biala here. Mayor Pertam Fischer here. Mayor Dougado, thank you. City Attorney, are there any changes to the close session agenda? Thank you, Mayor Prom. Uh, there are no changes to the agenda. Thank you. Then we'll open it up to public comments. Anybody in the room or on Zoom? Seeing none, we'll close public comments and we'll go into close session. We will reconvene here in the council chambers at 6:30. Thank you. Recording stopped.

Good evening everybody. Recording in progress. Yes, we just came back from a close session and our uh city attorney will report back. test.

I think it's okay now. Yes. Thank you. Our city attorney Rene Ortega. Yes. Thank you, Mayor Prom. Uh so, council provided direction but took no reportable action. Uh, additionally, um, I think we have the mayor appearing, uh, by Zoom, uh, under the just cause provisions of SB77. Uh, Mayor Delgato, did you want to briefly uh, state the purpose for appearing remotely? I'm sick. Thank you.

So, I did not want to laugh about that, but um, so thank you, Mr. Mayor, for being on Zoom. We we'll now have a moment of silent and a pledge of allegiance. Maybe Council Member McAdams would like to lead us in the pledge after a moment of silence. Okay, thank you very much for that. We'll now have uh four special presentations and we'll start with a presentation from the CEO of Montage, Dr. Michael McDermott. Welcome. Thank you. behind me. Uh, are they showing or Oh, I got you. Well, good evening, uh, Mayor Delgado and members, uh, of the council. Thank you for the opportunity to spend a few minutes with you today. I recently celebrated my one-year anniversary with Montage Health and in this community and I've spent much of that year listening to caregivers, to patients, and to members of the community. And so today, I'd just like to formally uh introduce myself, share a short update on your local health care system and reinforce that Montage Health is committed to being a community partner, not just a health care provider.

see if uh okay, next slide. Thank you. Uh to give you a brief background on me and what brought me to Montage Health. Uh before coming here, I led a nonprofit community-based health care system in Fredericksburg, Virginia called Mary Washington Healthcare. Uh like Montage Health, it was independent. It was locally governed and deeply rooted in its region for more than a century. And that matters to me because being community-based and being nonprofit, it means that our decisions are made locally. It means that our resources are reinvested here. And it means that we're accountable first and foremost to the people that we serve, not to outside shareholders or to distant corporate interests. And that model is something that I deeply believe in. And it's one of the reasons that I chose to come here to the Monterey Peninsula and to join Montage Health. Uh next slide. And today I want to focus on three issues that I know matter to all of us. First, access to care. Uh second, uh ensuring that this remains a thriving place for people to live and work. And third, working together for the benefit of our community. Next slide. Uh first, access to care. Uh access to care, it's one of the most important issues facing our community. It's one of the things I've heard most about in my first year here and it's a priority for us here at Montage Health. Today, we operate in more than 20 locations across the Monterey Peninsula. That includes community hospital, of course. But just as importantly, it includes primary, specialty, and urgent care offices, including those right here in Marina, which are helping people stay well and so hopefully they don't need the hospital in the first place. Our Montage Medical Group now includes more than 120 providers and advanced practice physicians or advanced practice

providers across offices here in Marina in Carmel and in Monterey. Last year alone uh we provided more than 230 ambulatory patient visits. Our Mogo urgent care centers in Marina, Carmel, and Monterey saw nearly 50,000 patient visits in 2025. and those give residents timely care for minor injuries and uh illnesses, often at significantly lower cost than an emergency department visit. And most recently, when two orthopedic practices in our community, Monterey Spine and Joint in Ryan Ranch and Peninsula Sport Physical Therapy in Carmemell, when they were at risk for closing, we stepped in by creating Montage Orthopedics and Sports Medicine. We helped ensure that more than 120,000 patient visits each year could continue without disruption. And more importantly, staff at both of those locations were offered the opportunity to stay in their roles, supporting continuity for patients and stability of our local healthcare workforce. We know that access to care remains a real challenge here and across the country, and there is definitely more work to do ahead. and we are committed to doing that work for the people who live and work in this community. Uh, next slide. I also wanted to briefly highlight a new advancement in care that we are bringing to Monterey County for the first time and that's our new throbectomy program for stroke care. When someone is having a very severe stroke, minutes matter. And historically, those patients here have often needed to be transferred out of the area to receive the highest level of care, wasting precious time. Through a partnership with the University of California, San Francisco, Montage Health is now able to provide this life-saving treatment locally at Community Hospital, so patients can get

the right care at the right time here close to home. We are the first and the only hospital in Monterey County to offer this level of care. This is not something that you typically see in smaller community hospitals and we're proud to bring to be able to bring this here to our local community. Next slide. Uh the second issue I want to talk about is workforce and economic vitality. As one of the largest employers on the Monterey Peninsula, we understand the realities of recruiting and retaining professionals in our high cost of living region. And that's why we're focused on building talent from within our own community. Through our grow our own programs, we provide high school and college students pathways into healthc care careers. In 2025 alone, we provided more than $1 million in scholarships to local students. We're also partnering with MPC and CSUMB to strengthen our local nursing pipeline, including our recent $15 million investment to establish the Montage Health Helen Bazooki School of Nursing at CSUMB. That will expand the number of nurses with Bachelor of Science degrees entering our workforce. Uh, in addition, we've also launched a clinical careers program that allows select Montage Health employees to return to school full-time while continuing to receive their pay and benefits to train for critical, hardto-fill clinical roles that are needed right here in our health care system. These efforts, they're not only about meeting health care needs. They're about creating stable career opportunities, strengthening our local workforce, and supporting the long-term health and resilience of our community. Next slide. And I know, of course, uh we all care about affordable housing to address housing pressures. We've implemented a home loan assistance program for our

staff, helping make home ownership more attainable, and supporting long-term workforce stability. Pictured here is one of our team members with her family celebrating their home purchase in Monterey County with the help of this program. And although Meg's daughter doesn't look too happy at the moment this picture was snapped, I can assure you she is thrilled with her new family home. Next slide. And I'll close with this. Um, Montage Health, we're here for the long term. We are locally governed. We are nonprofit. And we are deeply invested in the well-being of our community. If there are any opportunities for us to collaborate, whether that's around access to care, workforce development, senior services, emergency preparedness, or any emerging needs that you see, I want you to know that my door is open. We view our role as a partner in the overall health of Marina, and I look forward to building strong working relationships with each of you. Next slide. And thank you again for your time. Happy to answer any questions that you may have for me.

Thank you very much for this presentation. and for telling us about the programs and partnerships which are so important. Council, any questions or remarks? Y council

Madam Mayor, just kind of a um a general comment. I mean, it's it's more for the council's benefit, but it's clear that healthcare is has strains that Dr. McDermott articulated that um are making it really challenging not only for the organizations, but for the people we represent as well. So, I think that um I certainly speak for myself, but I imagine the council would be thrilled to have as many healthcare partners um working with our residents as we can possibly get because our residents, many of them are suffering without access to quality health care and um we certainly welcome a relationship. So, I appreciate you being here today, Dr. Thank you, Council Member Mceddens.

Thank you. Thank you for the presentation, doctor. Um, you know, and just to sort of, um, piggyback on what council member McCarthy saying, you know, we really are that community of hospitality workers, teachers, all of that who typically are underinsured and a broken bone is going to bankrupt them. And you know, with the HR1 cuts coming, that's instantly going to um eliminate tens of thousands of Monterey County residents from Central Coast Alliance and medical. Um I just I really think that the situation is is critical, you know, and so I I appreciate you being here. Um I appreciate having MOGO uh right here in our community um and also the the wellness center. And I also have very good medical benefits. So I understand what that privilege means. Um you know and also having to personally going through um cancer uh you know I can see how um it you know to get a bill where your share of cost is tens and tens of thousands of dollars. I mean it can just ruin you financially. So, I mean, I just concur with what council member McCarthy says regarding, you know, to come here a as often as you can. Um, maybe think about all of our students, you know, go otter. We have lots of CSUMB otters who are underinsured and also our hospitality workers. They they need all the support and um and assistance they can get. and especially when it comes to preventative care because typically when you're underinsured you go to the ER when something is really really wrong. So any sort of preventative um care that you could bring to our community would be lovely. Thank you.

You mentioned HR1 and the headwinds that that's going to present to all of us not just here in California but across the country pulling a trillion dollars out of the US health care system over the next decade. And there's going to be a real impact here and it's going to take all of us coming together. Nobody has real simple clear solutions, but it's going to take all of us that come together with all the providers of care here in Monterey and all of the community members to make sure everybody's well cared for when they have healthcare ser needs and and require services. Thank you, Council Member Bialup.

Thank you, Mayor. Uh thank you very much for that um presentation. I have a background all my career was in healthcare, so I understand some of the real uh pressures. Um on the one hand we in this county we have huge amounts of underinsured and uh with other healthc care organizations coming into our area also I know that uh it presents really competitive problems I think for other uh you know uh uh providers um you know that are struggling for the insured uh groups. So I I totally understand you know that you have huge challenges even within our community. I'm very impressed by what you're doing in terms of um sort of facilitating the health care uh providers and their advancement in our community. And I just wanted you to know that um um Monterey Peninsula College is investing $80 million in the expansion of their satellite uh in Marina and they're going to be focusing also on healthc care uh professions and stuff. So, I hope that you uh find a lot of collaboration with that group as they're starting off because it's going to be so important in our community that we have all those links to healthcare providers and opportunities for advancement and and and entry level into the health care profession. So, thank you very much and I hope you will return and and stay connected with Marina. Yeah, we we have a strong partnership with MPC and the Marine Church Coburn School of Nursing and we've seen the plans uh for their uh expansion and it's very exciting and we're excited to be partners with them.

That's great. Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you. And then we have Mayor Delgado on Zoom.

Yes. Thank you, Mayor Pat. Um Dr. McDermott, thanks for coming today. It's really good to see you and hear you. Um, I feel I think I I believe I'm really well served by the Montage facilities, whether it be Chomp or Ryan Ranch or here in Marina. Um, so to me, it it just really permeates my life when it comes to health. It, you know, I don't know what the what the alternative would be for me. So, I I deeply appreciate what I've gained personally and what I know is available to all of us in Marina through Montage. I am fairly ignorant of health care uh competition politics and so I I wanted to ask you a sensitive question uh so I could learn directly from you uh if you'd be willing to uh say what you think are any pros or cons to Kaiser coming into Monterey County from the perspective of Montage. Yeah, you know, I can't I can't speak for for Kaiser Permanente, you know, when they they get to make the decisions that they want to make. I do know uh at Montage Health, we are focused on making sure uh we are providing all the care uh that this community requires and we're doing it in partnership with members of this community who live here and work here, caring for for members of the community. And that's what we're committed to doing. And so, uh, we're going to continue to do our work of being the safest place for care, providing the highest quality care, and providing the best patient experience that we can. And we think if we do that, um, you know, we're going to we're going to be well received by members of this community when they need access to health care.

Thank you. As a as a short followup, do you see um Montage cooperating or partnering with Kaiser in the future when it comes to facil I'm sorry, facilities, ER services or any or any of those type of uh opportunities. Yeah, you know, the Kaiser model is different than uh you know, their model is one of typically, you know, uh uh you having commercial insured uh members that have signed up for their relatively closed network that they care for. Our model is more open, caring for every everybody who comes through our doors, whether they have, you know, medical, Medicare, commercial insurance, or no care, right? We care for every single person that walks through our doors at Community Hospital, the Monterey Peninsula. It's a nonforprofit. We're proud of that mission and it's something that we'll continue to do, but our models uh tend to be kind of fundamentally different in a in a lot of different ways. Uh and like I said, we're going to just uh continue working to make sure we are providing all of the care uh that this community requires and that's really what we're focused on.

Thank you very much. Yeah, just thank you again. And yeah, we all expressed our concerns. You know, we are privileged to have good health care and access to it, but we don't have solutions here. So um I hope that there can be some dialogues dialogues with you and others at Mont. I look forward to it especially at what's coming towards us. Yeah. So thank you again and congratulations on your first anniversary. Thank you guys so much. Thank you Dr. McDor. Okay. Our next presentation is an update about the Marina Connect. We already had our first quarter with that and this will be Tori. Oh Tori online. Okay. I'm looking. Yes,

there she is. Hi, Tori. Welcome.

Hi, good evening. And uh my presentation is just providing a brief update on Marina Connect. Um just a couple of notes. Marina Connect uh can be considered your connection to the city services and resources um through an app or either through a portal through the app. Just looking at that the the phone that's on your screen. Not only does it uh allow for lot for uh entering a a service request, but it also allows for uh providing you links to the city website, community resources if you wanted to see the community calendar or book a recreation class. You can all do it from the Marina Connect app. Next slide. This is just a screen where you would report an issue. Um just sharing with you that um it a lot of times we think of Marina Connect as being a software to launch to be used for public works uh street related and parks but also there are code enforcement options fire prevention graffiti and police uh non-emergency police requests as well. Marina Connect was launched at the end of January. So I'm going to share with you some of the data that has been input since then. But really, it's it's really two months of data, even though we're looking at a three-month period. Um, it really went into effect late in January. This was identified as a top city council priority. And, uh, it allows for people to initiate and monitor service requests through either a phone or through a the website links to various city resources. Next slide. Once a request is logged, uh what the department will see is in this case, someone had launched a request for pathways and they noted there's a yield sign in the middle of the bike path. You

can see on the map where it's marked by Men Parkway and then they attached the photo. So, this is the kind of information that city staff will see and as it moves through the process, most usually it'll be open, acknowledged, and then closed. Sometimes staff will use the in progress or the needs review depending on how they've chosen to to set up their system. Next slide. So looking at request by major category from January 1 through March 31st, we received 35 calls for streets, traffic signals, lights, and signs. And um that was that was 39% of all calls coming in. The next highest was police non-emergency calls with 24 requests or 27% of all requests and coming in third was city landscaping and parks with 17 requests. Total of 90 requests that came through the portal within uh really 60 days of operation. Next slide. So this is a lot of information, but it's really here to provide you with a bandwidth of the type of calls that are coming out. You can see the actually the most the single most requested type of of request was related to an abandoned vehicles. And next up was streets, traffic signals, lights, and signs. And these were items that were related to streets but did not uh fit into one of the categories. And you can see in our the next uh third place there was tied with four different types of requests. City sidewalks, curb and gutter, parking violations, traffic signals, and tree maintenance. The blue um bar represents the number of calls that have been closed within the period. So you can see for abandoned

vehicles, three were closed and at the end of the period um five more were left open. And just noting that staff is just becoming more familiar with this system. So, uh hoping to um have more statist statistics and looking at that. But 36% or 32 calls total were completed in that time frame and when the ones that were closed were closed in 5.3 days. we have a little bit more lead time on some of the other calls because they are more complex and then to um just becoming adapting to the system. Next slide. Marina Connect can also provide information by council member districts. You can see in this slide um we don't have a very robust system but we do have for reporting but we are able to gain a lot of information for data drops. Here you can see that um in district 1 is the leader of number of calls with 29 and district 4 following closely behind at 28 calls and that will show us the distribution allow us to remap and then if a council member should choose to request what type of calls within their area we can provide them with a report. Next slide. So in conclusion by presentation um I invite you to if you have not downloaded Marina connect to visit the city website for more information on the website there's a tutorial video um you can also just go down directly to and go to the Google um play store or the app store and download Marina connect you would just search for Marina connect and with that I conclude my presentation

thank you very much Tori council do you have any questions remarks about this cool app. Council member McCarthy. Yeah, Mayor Prom, I I can't help but say how continue to say how excited I am about this. I think it's really the best thing the city's probably done all year. I mean, it was it's been a big passion of mine to get this up and running and I'm just so thrilled with how staff is is handling it. So, thank you to staff. Thank you. Um, Mayor Delgado.

Yeah. Um, I echo what Council McCarthy just said. It seems kind of simple and it seems kind of expected that we'd have this kind of service, but it's also like a dream come true because we haven't had it before. And now residents can track I guess I should ask um can residents track their specific and can other people who don't make the request track all these kinds of requests if they wanted to dive into the details? To track your individual requests, you you would need to set up a login ID. You can report anonymously or you can set up set up an account. So, if you set up an account, you can see the status of your request as it moves through the system. If you look on the map, you can see some requests. Some requests we have kept private such as code enforcement and police just due to the nature of those types of calls. But a lot of the parks and streets, anybody could be able to see those as be as the status of those types of calls.

So, uh I also was suspicious that this wouldn't work very well because it would be too hard for staff to uh keep up with all the software and keep up with all the the uh the data because you have busy jobs already. But from what you've reported, um it's like working perfectly. Uh, I'm sure it's not working perfectly, but it seems like it's working perfectly to me and I really appreciate it and um, as Brian said, you know, it's really long coming and uh, thanks to the staff and everyone else who supported this because it's it's a real success and I think it's going to be used in mute more and more in the future as we get used to referring people to it when they when they send emails or phone calls that we can always now send them to this and give them a way of tracking their their uh their issues. Thank you very much.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And then I will add something because you probably already know I'm so enthusiastic about this app. I did not look up how many of the 90 requests were from me, but M District 4 could have won if I hadn't also submitted requests in other districts. So, just letting you know that we got the silver medal, but it could have been gold. But no, thank you, Steph. and uh anybody in the from the public just try it out. It's it's really nice and you can also if you submit enough requests I guess I get emails saying hey would you like to follow this one because somebody sent in a request similar to yours from I have I'm following people so u thank you very much story oh our city manager would like to say I'm so sorry that's fine um as the mayor kind of alluded to um for years past your mechanism been to call the mayor or council member if you want to report a problem. Now's the time to switch because it gets directly to our staff much quicker and you can track it and you can track the timing when it's responded if it's open. And so that is the easiest and the best way to do it so you can kind of start making that that shift. Another thing I really wanted to highlight um is that it really has um launched um glitch free at this point and part of that is because uh Tori and Ishmail and Juan has led this effort on our staff and they put it over a year of working into this and there's this whole platform on the back end called City Works that um takes all the information puts it into a work order system that internally we're able to track it that's going to help us a lot or on our budget time because then we're able to track and say, okay, this is how much time public works has spent in parks and this is how much time they spent on tree limbs and this is how much time on these other activities. And so there's a whole

back-end tool um that's working and again it's all been glitchree but I really wanted to highlight Tori and Juan and Ishmamail for really leading this effort. They did a tremendous job. Thank you. And one more remark. Um I hope that one day we can get to get the results as well as as as the person submitting the request. Like I had a a street sign was missing. There was no street sign and it was okay. It was acknowledged closed. Okay. Then I drive. Oh, there's a brand new street sign there. But would have been cool to see a photo like we did it.

Yeah, we we certainly have the capability to do things like that. I know it's just maybe more work and you already are so uh busy. So, thank you. That will take us to the next presentation. Another very nice fun subject, sidewalk shaving project update and presentations. And this is our public works director isma.

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tim. Um uh tonight we have uh Joseph Ortega from Precision Concrete Cutting here to give a presentation on the um uh kind of what how how things turned out with the sidewalk shaving project. But uh I wanted to introduce this by pointing this picture out here. Uh on the left you see malberry trees on the side of a residence. This is another city that I worked at. Uh, every one of those malberry trees lifted the sidewalk at least four to five inches. One of them was a 9 in lift, so it was almost like taking a step up uh going upstairs. And um uh we launched this new sidewalk uh maintenance program. That was the first location we did and the lady on the right gave us permission to take her picture. She was the first one that used the sidewalk once we opened it. And um when we were removing the caution tape and uh she stood there and she said, "Is it okay for me to cross?" We said, "Yeah." She said, "Uh" she said, "I've been retired for 20 years and every day I go for my walk and every day I've been having to navigate these trip hazards." And she just thanked us profusely. So, um that was May 6th, 2016. Still have it on my phone. I look at it often to remind myself um not to forget uh people with accessibility needs. So, uh, this is Joseph Ortega.

Good evening, mayor, city council. Thank you for having me tonight. My name is Joseph Ortega. I'm the vice president and corner of Precision Concrete Cutting. And I think that was a great introduction. Um, I've dedicated almost the last two decades of my life to fix sidewalks and I'm very grateful to do something meaningful. Um, we all walk our dog, we walk our kids to school, we go for a walk for good exercise, and we use sidewalks every day, right? And so it's so meaningful to be doing something great in our communities. Next slide, please. So I'm here to you to talk to you tonight about a project that we worked with public works department on last year in 2025. Uh we mapped out all the sidewalks in the city of Marina and we had never done a project like this in the city of Marina. So we had uh previously worked here as part of our partnership with the city's insurance pool Ambasia. Uh so we used some of the data that we had from the project with Ambasia and we um estimated it would cost about $210,000 to work our way through the out the entire city uh to do an sidewalk inspection and then fix um uneven sidewalks up to 2 in. So our projections were 26 offsets per mile um at a cost of about $2500 per mile. Um the actual was a little bit different, about double. Uh we found 52 offsets per mile at a cost of about $5,000 per mile. Uh so there was additional budget needed to complete this project about 20 uh $233,000. Next slide. I think um this is important to understand how we categorize the repairs. Uh there's a picture of one of our technicians. So when we deploy to inspect and repair the sidewalks, uh we assign technicians who walk over the sidewalk. Um any displacement up to 2 in is categorized for shaving. So that's a location that we can repair on the spot.

Um and and categorize and document and repair. If the displacement is lifted over 2 in or if the sidewalk's cracked and broken, we assign that to a remove and replace location. Uh we call it RNR. And that means you need to remove the sidewalk, do any tree work that may be needed, and put the sidewalk back. And then the third category is miscellaneous. So, um, any displacement or gap greater than a half an inch, uh, we've documented those. So, I'll talk a little bit more about that throughout the presentation. Next slide. So, this slide, um, shows all the locations in the city that we inspected and repaired. So all of the locations in green we were able to repair uh which was roughly 50% of the displacements. In total we fixed over 2,000 repairs across 672 addresses a total cost of $210,000. Then the pins in red are the pending repairs. Uh there's a total of 2,300 repairs at about 1,000 addresses and total cost to complete those repairs is uh roughly $214,000. Uh we applied a 5% discount to help the city complete this project and get this work done. Next slide. And the next slide highlights locations that we could not repair with our technique. So these are locations that need concrete replacement uh which take a lot more time typically 1 to 3 days to complete and are much more costly. Um in total there was 527 addresses um 666 locations. So one address may have two different locations on the parcel that need replacement. It's approximately 92,000 square ft of sidewalk. Um, at current industry standards, it's about $2.3 million to do the sidewalk

replacement or $4,300 per parcel. Next slide. The next slide is the miscellaneous. Um, in all there was about 279 miscellaneous. They're categorized there. Um, some of them are utility boxes. Um, some are pavers. A couple are even uh old pieces of sign that are left behind. Um, and then the bulk of them, about 74% are gaps or holes that are between/ an inch and 2 in uh 12 in. And those can be repaired with a patching technique that's very low cost and um doesn't take a lot of time and we can repair those about 74% of those. Next slide. So besides the repair, we developed a sidewalk condition database. So for every sidewalk we inspected and repaired, we collected a data point, GPS location, before photo, an after photo if it was repaired, date and time. Uh this is very powerful to helping the city manage its sidewalks moving forward. Um you can compare it next to complaints you get and manage ongoing repairs. Next slide. This is a screenshot of the database. Um, city has access to this. Uh, it's our it's called data works. It's a software that we provide and it integrates as well with city works that you guys were just speaking about. So on the database you'll see there's a pinpoint on the map uh which shows where the displacement or defect on the sidewalk is. Then you have the ability to drop the Google Earth uh car so you can get an idea of where the displacement is. This one uh you can see on the map, but then on the right hand side is a photograph that we take. We take two high resolution photographs of each defect. This location was an area

we identified for remove and replace. Uh it was a over a 2-in lift and it was about 40 ft of sidewalk that needs to be removed and replaced and it also has the address. Next slide. So, as I mentioned, we use the shaving technique. So, that's opposed to replacement or traditional grinding methods. Uh, what's unique about the shaving, it completely eliminates any trip hazards. So, you'll see many of the locations have been repaired. It has a proper slope that meet ADA. Uh, the full trip hazard has been removed and the repair times about 20 minutes. So, very little disruption to the community. Um the results are it's a safe walkable surface that meets uh ADA standards. And the other big benefit is uh this picture has a beautiful tree in the ground. We were able to fix the sidewalk without affecting the tree. So many cities we work with prioritize this type of repair because it helps them manage safe sidewalks with their urban forest at the same time. Next slide. This slide um demonstrates the savings for this project. So in our software, it calculates savings specifically for the project. So this was the first half of the project and it compares it to if you were to remove and replace the sidewalk. So on this project, we saved an estimated 86% compared to concrete replacement or or $1.4 million. Um but there's also significant environmental benefits. Uh we preserved 154 trees. Uh their CO2 emissions. So concrete is one of the highest polluters um in our environment. So with our technique, we're able to help keep concreted in the ground and out of the landfill. So we save 255 metric tons of CO2,500 tons of concrete into the landfill and

22,000 gallons of water. And the the last slide, next slide, please. Sorry, I I won't review this in detail, but these are the calculations. Uh all these are available and you you're uh free to to read through them. Wanted to include those. With that, I'll pass it back over to Ishmael. Thank you very much, Mr. Otga.

Uh last slide. Sorry about that. There's just one one real quick slide and it's just next steps. Um we will be bringing an an item back to council. Um find time on an agenda where we have time to talk, possibly a work session or something. and just go over um options for a sidewalk management program. Um we'll be looking at what other cities uh we already have. We we have programs from other cities and we'll bring you some options and um uh yeah, so a lot of information on this. Anybody has any questions, we'd be happy to answer. Thank you, Council Member Biala.

Thank you very much. Um, I just want to reinforce to the public um because my my own uh sidewalk um uh research started more than six years ago of the previous council in which I could barely believe my ears that I was responsible as the homeowner for the sidewalk in front of my and the ordinance said it's my responsibility. So, a good citizen that I am, I tried to get uh someone to, you know, to level it. And the person said, "No, we're not taking any responsibility, liability, because that's a city sidewalk." And I said, "No, I'm supposed to take care of it." And it went back and forth. And I even looked at our home insurance and they wouldn't take responsibility because they felt that that's not, you know, the borderline for, but it was on our ordinance that it is the homeowner's responsibility to repair it. So, I spent probably about $400 back then, about five years ago, maybe because somebody almost tripped and I decided I needed to fix my own sidewalk, which I did at great cost to to myself. Had I waited, I you would have done it. But I just want to make absolutely clear this is this is the city's money doing something very constructive for our uh residences here and that it's still on the books that we all as homeowners are responsible for the repair of the sidewalks ourselves as far as I I know. So I I just want to uh to reinforce that this is a magnanimous um you know effort um and one that has to do with safety as well um for the residents of Marina. So, thank you very much for doing this and I'm really pleased that the city is now undertaking this for our residences because that kind of shaving is uh very expensive one by one and and to try and find somebody. I finally found a second you know vendor to do it who was not a professional and obviously we must be saving a lot of

money doing it this way with this um this particular vendor. So, I appreciate it all all your efforts

council McCarthy. Thank you, Mayor Pro Tim. I'm going to kind of piggyback off of council member Viala's comments. Um, I've known for a long time. It's a streets and highway code, right? State code that gives cities the authority to require adjoining property owners. It's not just residents, I don't believe. I think it's just adjoining property owners to fix city property. Um, but my question is a little bit specific to, and it's interesting because in our very next item, there's an item where somebody is suing us for a million dollars because they say we didn't maintain the sidewalk. And so my question is, and we can take some of this offline if it's appropriate, but by engaging in this where we're helping residents, are we exposing oursel to more risk because we have now developed a program and we are saying that we are doing it when really the streets and highway code says that it's not our responsibility. Um, I think what I'll instead of asking that as a question, I will ask if we can have the city attorney work with Ambbeasia um and our insurance pool to ask some of these questions and bring back some best practices because while I do believe that we should be helping our residents to the best of our ability, right, when we have those funds, I also don't want to open the city to additional unnecessary risk. Thank you.

Yes, we are working with Invasion and we're working with staff on some of those issues. Thank you. I can tell you that um this program uh with precision precision concrete, it is um sponsored by Invesia. And so Embeasia uh initially gave 10 $15,000 to each of our member agencies because they encourage it. They want that. It reduces Ambbeasia's liability and exposure. And so um um Rene is going to take her deeper dive, but I can tell you Ambbeasia um um puts money towards all the member agencies because they encourage that and that does help to reduce our liability.

Thank you, Mayor Logan.

Thank you, Mayor Prom. There are so many aspects to this. Uh you know, I feel like singing from the rooftops about it. It's kind of like that prior item where Tori and staff have put together a reporting system for problems and I'm sure some of the problems are going to will be sidewalks that are being fixed but for sustainability of you know making it a walkable town and a bic a cyclable town and for strollers and blind and other folks with with special needs aged and they're very young. This is amazing. It's simple, but it's amazing and so cost effective that there's been 255 shavings on sidewalks atund if you divide that by the $210,000 that's been spent. It's $102 per shaving. That's that's really a a big bang for the buck when each shaving is reducing a trip hazard. You know, how much is that worth? It's worth a lot. And there's 2,327 remaining shavings to be done um for about 203,000. A thank you to the the folks doing this and the 5% discount. I mean, it shows that they're really a partner and I think it's wonderful. So, I think the next steps would be kind of a no-brainer to find that $23,000 for the next shavings, you know, to get the rest of the city done. And then what's not a no-brainer is the $2.3 million needed to do uh 666 locations of devilish trip hazards which are even larger that can't be shaved like these others. I don't know where that money is going to come from, but I hope that excuse me in our budget discussions coming up. We consider that as one of

the one of the funding priorities. I don't know if we can find the money for that, but that's I just don't want to let this uh presentation go without thinking about the next steps. And I'd like to hear from staff if we need further council direction to get that next 203,000. Um, and if so, can we put it on the agenda before waiting for the budget? We can't leave half our city undone after doing half our city in this important regard. And I don't think there's too many other things that residents would rather our money go to than making their sidewalks uh non-hazards without them having to pay for it beyond the taxes they're already paying. Pay for it individually. But thank you to everyone involved with this. It's it's a And I guess I want to reach out to Ishmael, our public works director. I think he he helped drive this along with our city manager and and so thank you to the folks doing the work and those that have pushed it from staff's perspective. It's just a huge success that we can all appreciate every day. Thank you.

City managers, did you want to say something? Um we have our midyear um midcycle um budget meeting with council on May 21st. And this certainly will be one of those topics for discussion with the council. As far as the additional shaving, uh when you're talking $6 million for um Sabro repairs, um there's not even close to that amount in total of our unallocated budget. And so that's a bigger um issue and we'll as Ishmail said we we'll be working on that and coming back to council with some ideas and suggestions. Thank you. Council member Ba.

Yes. Uh going back to um council member um uh McCarthy's comment, I think I just want to make sure that people don't bite the hand that feeds them. So in my in my way of thinking at least people should be signing uh waiverss of of liability saying that if we do this as a city for you who are ultimately legally responsible for this work in front of your house that you're not going to turn around and sue us. I worry about that because in our latigious society that's always a possibility. So I would hope that we can if we haven't that we should have that already uh from the folks who did receive this service um so that uh we don't we don't come into that kind of problem and and the reality is that that that I paid probably um more than what would have done had you all done it. So, if we can't find the funds, then maybe what we do is is pay 50/50, you know, with the homeowner because it's still their liability. But it gives me great great comfort to know that our city's insurance company is saying that this is one of the cost-saving measures for us getting sued and and for every lawsuit that doesn't come to, you know, some kind of a trial, but we settle because we we need to because that it is just too lengthy and and involved that that every time somebody sues for something like that that it's so costly for us. So, we'd much rather put money into prevention. I think that's a real statement of the importance of this just monetarily for this the the city, let alone safety issues and care for the community. So, anyway, I hope we're thinking about legal.

Thank you. And just good to know that staff including our city attorney are working on this city manager, our public works director. And of course I am just happy to see that the recommendation or one of the next step is to allocate money for maintenance for continuing maintenance because it won't be done you know we cannot forget about it for another couple of decades as probably happened in the past. So thank you very much and I'm looking forward to um the next step especially finding that money. Okay thank you. Okay, we have one more presentation. We can fill the night with presentations. Um, the Imm Parkway median updates and presenting

uh Bianca is online so if you can pull her over to a panelist Bianca. Yes.

All right. our awesome designer. For those who don't know, Bianca has designed many, many beautiful things in our city, including artwork going in at the roundabout at in front of the VA clinic at 8 and 9th Street and soon on Indian Parkway. Four roundabouts. Is Bianca here? Yeah, she's up there. Can you hear me? Oh, yeah. Welcome, Bianca. I was just filling the time here.

I appreciate it. Thank you so much. It's a pleasure to be here this evening. Uh, I'm um happy to share an update on the engine medians. The engine parkway project is undergoing the finishing touches and the collective was asked to look at the median specifically um to address some of the items you see on the slide. Um the improvements in the medians would need to be permeable. Uh would need to address some of the exposed soil and erosion control conditions of the um existing medians. Uh they would also these areas would not be able to receive permanent irrigation and any plantings would need to be California natives. And we had an approximate budget, construction budget, um, within the project of about $10 a square foot for over an acre of landscape areas in the in the medians. And not on this list, but pretty much on every project. Um, we do are also tasked with making the proposals aesthetically engaging and also lowmaintenance. Um, so next slide, please. So we dove in and started collecting, exploring and testing different ideas uh with that list of um opportunities and constraints that led us to gravel and decomposed or crushed granite. Uh next slide, please. And so we looked at locally available materials for both short and long-term um availability. And um also we understand there's some dolphin sculptures that the city will be looking forward to as part of the engine um parkway project. So we were working

with those pieces as well. And um and next slide. Also with every project we it's important we find it important to uh connect with the the regional characteristics of the place and support the sense of place for the community. So naturally for marina we love to look at the ocean especially in combination with these sineuous um curving lines on Ien Parkway. And um kind of the story of the ocean are these these waves that start as densely spaced ripples and then become broader wider um way bigger waves as they approach the shore. So we use this as inspiration um next slide please. for the various conditions of the engine parkway medians. We have um portions of the median which are maybe two, five um up to 9 ft wide where we have kind of the capillary waves just um bringing texture and um contrast uh rhythmically along the roadway and then spacing out as we get closer to the median to the roundabouts. I apologize. Um next slide please. And then for the larger width um medians which are 10 feet and up to 20 26 feet wide, we can um uh change the pattern to go uh parallel with the roadway and add more contrast and texture. and also gave us an opportunity to um try some hardy native plants in these areas and work with the dolphin sculptures as well as bringing in some height with um some boulders. Next slide, please. And working with um the boulders and

some potential native plants we were um working with in this situation. As I mentioned, we won't have permanent irrigation, but there is a maintenance period where uh folks will be on site taking care of the plantings that are nearby. And so, the goal was to find plants that were hardy enough we could get large larger container plants um get them deeply rooted and deeply watered at planting and then maintained during the maintenance period. And these were selected for um to also maintain sight lines as needed. um and to establish quickly um so that they could be on their own without supplemental water sooner um as soon as possible. And then planting them with the boulder so they have the shade and support of the boulders so they can get a little microclimate in between um the two lanes of asphalt to try to support establishing native plants in these specific areas. Next slide please. Uh so just focusing on one of the intersections of Immunen Road and Immunen Parkway. We have the larger medians um heading west on Immunen Parkway. Also uh the potential the area where we'd like to see a pod of three dolphins integrated with the boulders and the plantings. And then um on the right hand side is the skinnier um median type which would have ripples um rippling and waving towards at each roundabout. Um next slide please. So this is a recent drone view of uh Engine Road in Engine Parkway. And um in the center of the roundabout, you can see a bark mulch uh color texture that will soon be full of irrigated native landscape plants. And then there's some edges of bark mulch um outside of the

circle in the medians. And then the part that looks like sand, that's where um we're proposing the improvements. And um we were able to draw chalk lines around the office all over the sidewalks to get a sense of scale and size and transitions. But next slide is um just wanted to provide um a quick look at the to get a sense of scale of the different texture transitions and mimicking the the wave motions. Thank you so much. excited to see this and um in conjunction with the future artwork as well.

Thank you very much, Bianca. Uh council, any questions, remarks? I see Mariel Mayor Delgado. I'll let you go first. All right. Um instead of saying I'm blown away, which I kind of am, I'm just surprised, happily surprised. I didn't know this was coming. Um, of course, no surprises. I'm really happy that we're talking about native plants. Um, I think we often go to native plants around California without really giving serious consideration to what local native plants could serve the same function. For example, u California buckwheaticulatum is listed in those hearty uh four plant list, but it's not in marina. But we have this incredibly similar plant we all know which is the uh the the Smith blue butterfly buckwheat arogum paraffllorum that grows like a weed in Marina. And although I'm concerned that no irrigation could lead to dead plants, um you could go to Lo Patton Park to an unerrigated otherwise very weedy field and see this buckwheat native to marina, this really important species for the butterfly doing fantastic without irrigation. So, I hope we're not too quick to settle on these out of town California somewhere natives uh before we look seriously at what's already in our backyard that could function just as well. Um, and that's just one example. I'm also concerned about the maintenance

because when I see the new Im Parkway project and I walk it to pick up litter, I see all the newly planted landscaped areas along that 1.2 mile new project uh and lots of weeds coming in. I think, oh my gosh, how is public works going to weed all these areas so that every year we don't have more weeds coming up from the seeds that were dropped the previous year? So, um, if we go the direction this beautifully designed project is going and we say there's not going to be irrigation, we need to make sure there's money in the budget to maintain these areas to look nice in the future by having enough money to constantly replace dying individual plants that just have their lifetime a little bit shortened or a lot shortened. without water. Um, so we we want them to look nice. We don't have a great track record of landscaped uh areas in our city looking nice in for a lot of years, you know, continually. So I think if we go beyond rocks and succulents as proposed here and and I support it, we just have to be sure that we're not adding another maintenance liability that we don't have money to make to ensure that it remains a beautiful project, you know, year 3, four, six, seven as it is, you know, year 1. But thank you, Bianca, for this great uh these great designs. And I love your your inspiration for the short waves getting longer and then showing us at the end, you know, how you're implementing that here. Great vision. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And before I go to uh Council Member Biala, city manager, I was told that the maintenance for the Indian Biden project for the first two years will be for the the developer, the builder. That that is correct. And they are training our public works crew what to do. That's what I was told. Um, yeah, I'm assuming they're they're training, but they're responsible for that maintenance. And, uh, Ishmail can answer um some of Bruce's other questions if you'd Would you like to do that or shall we do this another time because we're already Yeah. Yes. Let's Let's hold that up. Hold that for maybe the midcycle budgets.

Yeah, we can do that. I um I will tell you that the reason we're doing this um if you go if you drive drive down it right now you see a lot of weeds and and other plantings growing. Some of these are are native plantings growing and the whole intent is um this is to reduce our maintenance cost and we have certain constraints in there. There's no irrigation in there and uh we we can't put it in there. Um, but the whole intent of this is to make it look nice and reduce the maintenance cost. And we think Bianca has done a really good job of trying to hit that. Yes. Balance.

I agree. Um, thank you, Council Member Via.

Thank you, M. I guess I can call you mayor, temporary mayor. I'm not sure how to do I say Bri to do I say pro mayor prom or do I say mayor when she's in acting as the mayor? Anyway, um, so, uh, Bianca, I've seen so much of your work and, you know, I'm a huge fan of of everything you have done in your poetic and very visionary ways. Just want to add that I know that we're doing all natives in these um, roundabouts, but sometimes all natives is not so appealing to the eye. And so I know you're thinking about how to make it so that when one plant is on the dying cycle, which is a natural cycle, that we've got something else that that is nearby that sort of compensates for it because I've seen some areas where it's all natives and quite frankly it it doesn't have a lot of u you know visual appeal. So I'm counting on you to consider all those things. The other thing is on the um the segments where you have it separated out with the rocks and the gravel different types. Is that separation um uh I know barrier is it metal or is it what what kind of material is that? Bianca. Hi. Um yes. So, we will be connecting with um budget to verify, but optionally optionally it could be a composite with I like to do the metal stakes to really hold it in place or wood stakes um and composite edging a or metal. But we're going to um do uh budgeting next to help narrow in on final material selections.

Okay? Because um if we want that to last, I think we have to go with something that really can withstand, you know, the wind or or people walking on it because it could get really looking pretty messy. you know, the original designs can look very controlled and and and really neat and then soon you see all the bleeding of the different, you know, uh rocks into each other and then now you have to figure out how you're going to contain that and who's going to kind of sweep them back again and the whole thing with that. So, um and and and certainly replacing those things later because they're they're not holding up. I think you know if if we can make sure that those will retain the visual um you know the visual artistry that you put into it I I I I would be very careful about how we put in those things to begin with because replacing them is going to be a nightmare. So thank you very much again for all your wonderful work. Really appreciate it.

Thank you and no surprise for my remarks again. Um, please don't be pennywise pound foolish. Always keep that look at the maintenance cost as well for the future. But thank you, Bianca. Beautiful. I'm looking forward just like Mayor Degato, the wheel. I was not aware that this was going to happen. I bike there regularly and I thought the sites are so beautiful. If if you haven't seen it, the puppies are there and the other whatever the names of the flowers are. I ask my husband, I stop every time to take photos and um it's beautiful, especially this time of the year. And after the rain, we'll get more. So, if you haven't seen it yet, slow down here in your car or go bike. And for the this is a public service announcement. For the bicyclists, you can now bike from 2nd Avenue to reservation on a separate bike path. You don't have to bike on Indian. If you like, you can do that, but there's separate bike path either on the south side from second to Indian road. And then you cross green pave paving cross Men and then go on the new separate site bike path all the way to reservation. So not everybody is aware. Thank you all especially Bianca. And that takes us to item eight. Oh sorry seven. First we'll have uh council announcements. Council members anybody? No. Okay. Council member um McDups.

Thank you, Mayor. Um I just I wanted to um ask the city manager and the chief um a couple of questions in light of the kidnapping and sexual assault that took place in broad daylight at Log Pattern Park last week. Um and just to sort of be transparent to the community on steps that the city is taking to to ensure park um safety. So, uh, what actions are being taken right now to ensure public safety? And then also, what is the city's plan to address the overgrown conditions contributing to the illegal camping and crime that has been occurring in the park?

City Minister Ela Long, if you

Yeah, we'll have our Chief Hopkins and can address what we're doing right now on the safety end. Good evening. Uh so yeah, great question. So um what I can tell you publicly that's already been released uh because it is an ongoing investigation. Uh there's limited information, but what I can tell you is that u an event occurred where an individual indicated that he uh was sexually assaulted. Uh while there he was able to identify who that suspect was. uh we made an arrest based on that information and that case is now being placed in the court system with the district attorney. As it relates to uh what we are doing, we have been um aware of several concerns being expressed over the two years that I've been here and we have been ramping up our efforts as it relates to pat additional patrolling, gathering statistical information to see what's going on, what's driving it. Some of it's um it's a range but some of it's ranging from homeless individuals um disturbances and then this one event that occurred is the only one of record that we've have of that type of of of a scenario. Uh so we at this time don't feel that there is a continued threat. However, we do we are aware that there are several other events that are occurring in the area that are um uh not conducive for our public and uh we're aware of that and we put up a trailer in the area to monitor the activity and that will remain in place uh until we are able to evaluate its effectiveness. Uh we are also looking at um uh how much time we have spent in the area. And what I've been able to to discern so far is that since uh just at least October, our enforcement in the area is up 108.6%.

So we're in there much more than we have been. Uh as well as um our dispatch calls are up 45% and again that's a range of of different categories. And then our officers are also spending self-initiated activity and making arrests 20.96% more than they have before. Uh we have taken 13 reports. Uh that's 17 that's down uh from 17 last year. But but then again our activity is up. So we're making some some efforts and we're monitoring it since last week and putting things out on social media and there's a campaign and a strategy that we'll continue to uh stay on top of. Uh we have seen a decline just in population. We've seen others that are uh in the park that are sitting right under the the camera because they feel safe, I guess. So that's great. And that's what we want. Um uh we want people to use the parks, use it respectfully, uh feel safe doing so. As it relates to the uh the overgrown, the brush and things of that nature, uh as we all know about SEPTA, crime prevention through environmental design. Um again we also are aware that part of that uh lock patent is owned partials of it are owned by uh not us and so we are in the process um of getting anou signed or not necessarily not anou but an agreement signed with them uh so that they can uh give us more authority to make arrest when it's appropriate to do so. Uh and so that is in process as of the last day or so. Uh once that's done, uh that will give us more um opportunity to go into those parcels that are not specifically owned by us. So, we're looking at all of those uh strategies, the gaps where they may exist, shoring those up to make sure that uh we can operate freely and make sure that the public feels safe and um to enjoy the park.

Thank you. I I really appreciate that. And I want to make sure that you know the condition of the park, the overgrowth not maintained that is working against the efforts of public safety. And so for us to remain complacent and not do anything and take action, you know, I I really um am frustrated because clearly there are issues. We've known about it for over a decade and the park remains in the condition that it's in. So I feel um very strongly that this is a wakeup call and if it's not then shame on us. Um and so I really appreciate public safety immediately implementing these measures and I also want to recognize that this doesn't fall all on your department. So you need to have some collaboration from the council and from you know public works and getting the park cleaned and maintained to not be um you know a public nuisance or to not attract um and enable um this sort of activity. So, um, and then one statement I'd like to put on record. You know, typically, um, the population that is experiencing homelessness, mental health, drug abuse, they're not the ones that call 911. They are not the ones who want to have a conversation with the police. And a lot of I mean, a lot of incidences, I'm I'm sure are going unreported. Um, and so I I just, you know, I appreciate everything that you have implemented immediately and and I and I see the seriousness that you um are, you know, how you're managing this incident and also, you know, it's our

responsibility to make sure that the park, all of our open spaces are safe for our community. Um, and so I really hope that this is a wake-up call for us, for our work with the parks district, um, and and for us moving forward in whatever capacity. So, thank you so much.

Sure. And I'll just say to that to that point, uh, there is a another manual that we're working on. I've been compiling all of our conversations that we've had since I've been here. Emails, conversations, some tours that I've had at the different facilities and it's a manual that I'm working on that relates to um homelessness, encampments, and then coupled with intelligence just so that we can better understand how to serve those individuals as you said that may not be calling. there may be more events um and services that we can provide and just knowing where those resources are uh as well as any ordinances that we can maybe bring to bear to to change all that's being explored and so um I'll be tapping you all for your ideas and maybe look at this draft to to make it more robust before we roll it out. So I appreciate the support overall. Thank you.

Thank you, Council Member McCarthy.

Thank you, Mayor Porzan. um hadn't really planned to follow up on that, but just a couple quick statements. You know, I think um to Council Member McAdams point, right? Like how many times has um somebody called the police when a drug deal has gone bad and said, "Oh, I've been shorted, you know, a couple ounces of what?" It doesn't happen, right? There's a lot of things that go unreported and we really need to be cognizant of that. We know without I excuse me, I know without a doubt that there are serious problems at Logan and have been for 30 plus years. Um, but these issues are not unique to Marina. They're not unique in the county and certainly not unique in the country. There are best practices. There are resources that we can reach out to to kind of figure out how we um participate in those environmental design pieces um to uh engage in harm reduction strategies. So, I'm hoping that um as a city we are certainly at that table um ASAP. Um many may or may not know that um in this city in was it 2015 there was a similar incident where um a man was invited to the beach beaten killed and burned. Um uh and those are the kind of things that we want to make sure as a city that we are doing everything we can to prevent uh from happening. Um on a lighter note um I attended a public works commission meeting um this week. Um uh it was fantastic with the leadership of Ishmamail and Chair Hunt. Um we talked about a variety of issues. Um one of the neat things that um the public works director shared with me is that they have um innovatively sought out a new way to kind of fill our potholes in our streets. And I saw some of that on my journey um to city council today. I think that was that new technology um where they're using a a a new um surface material that lasts longer, is more durable, and um uh you know, doesn't disappear as quickly. So, I'm just really thrilled at the innovation and the out of the box thinking that the public works

department is doing. Um, as you know, I sit on the AMP board access media uh I forgetting what the P is productions. Maybe they're the entity that televises our uh city council meetings here. Um, we've got a a staff member in this closet here kind of operating the cameras. Um, that the organization is in trouble. I've talked about this before. It desperately needs um members of the community to participate and figure out what the future of AMP is. is. And so I just want to put that disclaimer out there. If you have an interest in all things television and television production, please reach out to AMP and see how you can participate. The last thing I want to mention is um June is fast approaching. That is pride month. Um I'm sure we have a resolution that um allows us to raise the pride flag for that month. Um I would like to if it's okay with the council uh broadly work with Jenny again to organize an event. Um, just kind of want to put that out there as a a public comment for now and if there's any opposition, you know, reach out to staff and and we can figure out a way forward. But, uh, very much looking forward to that. These, uh, messages are more important now than ever to kind of communicate to our community. So, thank you, Mayor Port.

Thank you for all your remarks and I'm already looking forward to the invitation for the June 1 like Tracy. Can I ask uh, Council Member McCarthy a question? uh on typically our our our prime month resolution we can do it May 21st or June 2nd. Um Sarah preference what makes more sense. I don't have a preference but I think I do have a preference on the date of the the flag raising probably you know definitely that Friday the 1st or maybe Saturday. Um probably what Council Member McAdams I don't know if you want to weigh in just because we we've partnered on this event. Um,

yeah, I don't think that matters. Um, let's maybe June. We'll do it in in the actual month. Um, thank you. Uh, oh, Council Member Viala.

Yes. I just want to follow up on Council Member McAdams um comment about the unfortunate circumstance with criminal activity at Loaden Park. I do want to emphasize that that park is jointly owned by the city and the regional park district and probably the majority of the parcels are owned by MPRPD. So I just want to say that uh both entities should be um jointly to to be responsible for that. I don't know that it's just the city and you know and I don't know what the legal ramifications for that crossover are but certainly there could be resources uh from both um the property owner and the city that has jurisdiction over all the areas in our cities but I don't know the the quite the you know the parameters for that but I just want to mention that and what I'd like to to uh to to say on a happier note here is that yesterday we had a uh with our Sister City, Eiznukuni. We had a signing ceremony remotely and that was to uh change these the uh sister city designation from a friendship city to a a more official sister city designation. And that friendship designation was more an issue with Izzyokuni because they have sort of uh descriptions of that in their in their ordinances and they needed to then then start with that and then progress to a sister city. So we had a wonderful celebration. Um it was a zoom uh that was just yesterday at the Marina uh the Marina um high school. Um and it was in their library and we had in uh present we had um the mayor and all the rest of all of our city council members were

there as well as ACOM board members and um and key individuals there and the six students who are currently in the Ezukuni Marina student exchange program that we've we're now in the third academic year. So this is over zoom and the students just bond so incredibly much every academic year and so our uh Marina high school students were attending that as well. So it was just a a lovely ceremony and in uh Japan uh they had a lot of more official formal c uh people in the in the ceremony. But we had such an amazing attendance and I just wanted to show you two two uh photographs. one of our whole group in Marina. Um, oh no. Uh, first just the photograph of the the signing ceremony.

While we're waiting for that, I saw Isuna City had posted that show that it's just so it kills me. I got it right before coming here. It's just so cute. Okay, so this is our group in Marina. Uh we had such an incredible group for the signing and you'll see um in just a minute um the the press that came out in Japan over this signing ceremony. So could you show that? It features an incredible quilt that was handmade by uh our HR director Belinda Valera and Carolina who is from our recreations department. But you can see this is what hit the press in Japan about our signing ceremony. And on the bottom you can see Lane Long and you can and Carolina and um and Belinda. So that was what was featured in Japan Japanese newspapers. It was just amazing. And then you can see on the top all the form formal uh officials in at from eukuni's side at that at that ceremony. And I think right ne Oh, so what what we have and and in that larger picture in the back you can see all the six um uh Marina High School students and in that uh Zoom exchange program each of the student students um produced a a video for the other and so we'd like to show the what the Japanese students presented to the the U Marina students and we tried to show this now twice in council. and it didn't work. So hopefully it'll work tonight.

Hello everyone. How are you doing? Look at this flower field. Isn't it beautiful? We have made a special movie just for you. In this video, we introduce our hobbies, schools, food, and local spots. Hope you enjoy watching this. Let's get started.

Hi, this is Koharu. I'm Toyo High School student. I will introduce my daily school life. Students in Japan actually participate in ma in making school lunches and cleaning up and all of that. This is one of the their culinary schools, but they do do that every day. This is my calligraphy club's loom. I belong to calligraphy club now. So I will load kanji. This is one of our uh exchange students and uh she's showing how to write Japanese calligraphy which is called oshuji. I'm sorry this the sound is so low. It it has nice music as well. They put a lot of effort into this.

My This is my motto. And they're speaking They're trying to speak English, by the way. Do you remember what my favorite food is? I said our last online meeting. It's Kar Japanese fried chicken. My mom made this for me today. It's even better if you dip it between this.

It's so deep and delicious. When I'm not eating, I'm usually on the basketball court. I playing basketball with my friend. It's hard work, but we have a lot of fun. I'm really happy to meet all of you through this program. I can't wait to meet you someday. See you. This is our school high school. Our school has over 150 years of history. It is said that who is a local local governor of our city back then the school. It was the end of the period. Behind the school is a mountain. There used to be a castle at the top. Let's go up. This is shrine. I located halfway up the mountain. And this is how to pay respect at a shrine.

Ball twice. Drop twice. B once.

Bow once. Clap pants. Yeah, that's a shrine. We are at the top of Mount. They're showing from their high school which is 150 years old. They overlook Mount Fuji which is incredibly rare to see to be able to see this view of Mount Fuji every day.

Hello everyone. I love building tank model. Do you remember? I show you all now. This is a shaman tank models in American models. Since you are all in America, I chose an American model today. I think tank models are very cool. Don't you think so, too? He's a little different.

Hello, Marina. Have you ever seen drum performance? Now, we are going to play a part of the performance. The song is titled Oara which means a vast ocean. The highlight of this performance is moves inspired by the ocean wave. It's you. Hey, hey, hey. visit.

Yay. So, these six uh children are actually going to be coming here August 22nd in um the second phase of our um uh exchange program where they're actually coming. Um and so now uh in that uh uh signing ceremony yesterday, if you noticed in the background, we had a quilt and now Belinda and uh Carolina and Elizabeth. But where's Carolina? Oh, okay. Are going to show what we presented to Ezukuni. We're going to send this to them. It was just incredible. And Lane is going to talk about it. Right.

You want me to read it? Yes. This is yours.

Okay. So, uh, one of my co-workers, Carolina Rivera, she helped quilt this with with me. Um, funny story, the first day I started with the city, she walked up to my office and said, "I heard you're a quilter." And so, we've bonded over quilting and just, um, we worked on this for about 30 hours over the course of a few months. Um, and just a description, the quilt is a modern interpretation of a photograph taken at Marina State Beach, capturing a place that is meaningful to our community and sharing it across the ocean. A small window into our coastline and daily beauty. Um, we relied on creativity as we used pattern to put this together. Just looked at a picture. We did use chat GPT to try to translate to a quilt. Um the upper portion reflects the night sky with scattered stars. A soft gray horizon line represents the coastal fog. Um the presence of both the sun and the moon symbolizes the time difference between Marina and Izuni. While one city winds down under a sunset, the other looks up at the night sky, reminding us that we are always connected, even across the ocean. The sunset is stitched with five rings to honor the city of Marina's 50th anniversary this year. Um, below the sunset are cool blues and white angled lines. So, the dark water of the ocean, the uh waves, and then some of the seafoam at the bottom. Uh, the darker brown or tan is the wet sand. Then the lighter one is the sand dunes. Uh, the last one is um the coastal plants. You can see some of the little purple flowers in there. Um, it reflects pride in place, appreciation for nature, and the connection between two communities.

And this was all done by volunteer um Blinda and Carolina. No one asked them to do it. They just took it upon themselves. And um, it really is an amazing work of art. We're really excited to share it with Ezunian and it certainly is very special to them

and we could hear lots of oo's and a's on the other end and they're pretty understated in terms emotional reaction but that you really did get one and by the way um Belinda was uh one of our official delegates to Enokuni was that last year 2025 so she's returning originally this was going to go just as a quiet gift to Japan with with Kathy as she went on her trip just a couple weeks ago. Um and it turned into something I think much more meaningful and beautiful for both of the communities. Totally. So thank you. Thank you so much.

Thank you all very much. Even the backside is beautiful. I don't know really with the you see the Yes. So we do very quickly because quick quick Well, everybody is getting seated again. I'll go to Mayor Delgado because I skipped him for the uh council announcements. Sorry about that, Mayor.

No, no, this is great. uh watching this happen on my computer screen uh it's a different perspective than I have when I'm there with you and me looking in what what you're all doing is amazing and uh you know Lane's retiring in in a few months but the dedication of Ishmael and Belinda and Carolina and and Randy our chief of police and everybody on our staff to me is a reflection of Lane um being you know either their direct supervisor or their super the supervisor of their supervisor uh because it's you know it's a there's a chain of command here and for all these wonderful things it's you know it goes to Lane and it goes to all of you and uh um Jenny and her passion about getting lock pads safe and and Brian bringing up the whole leading the pride you know initiative along with Jenny's help and Kathy's dedication to the Asian u you know the diversity of our cultures and Elizabeth driving you know riding her bike around and finding things to report u to to fix in our Maria connect software I mean it's just an amazing group that you are and I'm really happy to to work with you but seeing it all on TV like I am like a spectator night it just seems like there's a lot to be thankful for in Marina um I I look forward to that next Pride celebration. You know, when I'm there and everyone's there at the Pride celebration, it's it's more meaningful than than it sounds when you're just reading about it. But when you're there with the people at that pride celebration, giving them respect and support where they don't that sometimes they don't feel that and and and it's a wonderful vibe at that at that ceremony that Jenny and and Brian make sure happens in a real respectful way every

year. There's a Japanese teacher in Marina that went to last night's signing ceremony and that kind of brings it together because she teaches Japanese at the middle school level at Los Aberlo Middle School and at the high school level at Marina High School. And so some of those students that are Marina High School students came from Los Aberus Japanese classes taking them continuing in uh high school here. And then they they've come back from Japan just on personal trips to Japan using their their language skills now. So it's coming full circle with the um with the uh Izuni friendship now sister city and it's a it's been a beautiful evolution but it wouldn't have happened without many many hours of Kathy's organization. The quilt that Carolina and Belinda did on their volunteer time was so appreciated by J by the Japanese delegation when they saw it uh uh in our joint sort of signing ceremony yesterday. Thank you, Belinda and Carolina. You reflect, you know, joy for your job, dedication to your community, and it's more than just a job. And and you show that, and I thank you so much. It's so great to see that. inspires me so much to see that on the uh lock pad and park danger unsafety aspect I think that we have forgotten too long as some of you mentioned earlier the majority of that dryland is not ours so it's central park if it was New York it's it's Golden Gate Park if it was San Francisco lock patent park is our central park but we don't own most of it where are our partners we've done everything. They've done very little because we were happy all these decades

to do everything. But they do have law enforcement staff. They have rangers. They have specialists. They have they they have a staff, but they almost never set foot on their land that we're spending a lot of money with our police patrolling it as if we own it. And I think that's to the credit of our city. But when we talk about resources allocation to the park, we have to think of it at least 50/50 because we own a minority of the land. At the last park district meeting, uh, April 4th or whatever, one of the one of the board members there at NPRPD, they said, "We need to go with an upland scope and a wetland scope of work for the future." And we think of the upland scope as the proposed Asian-American garden and the other city projects like the Oakwoodland Community Garden. But I think what the people want uh they they like and a lot of people like those projects, but the people are thinking kind of like Jenny, we want this dry land to look nice and we want it to be safe. The same for the wetland. But most of the issues that we're talking about that are unsafe, they're not happening in the water. They're happening in the bushes and under the trees. They're happening primarily on the dry land. And so if we're serious about improving that area, we need to do as much as we can to reach out to the park district and see what people they have on staff that can come and spend time in in this park that they own the majority of and and get interact with nighttime visitors who shouldn't be there and daytime visitors uh to have more of a presence. So, I think that we got one arm behind our back because we

don't own the land and we haven't had an agreement to manage that park since 2012. 14 years we've been managing that park with no agreement, but the old agreement was cost-free to the park district. The new agreement might be different. We don't know until we get there. But let's not forget that if we want to do a better job, we probably need a lot more on the ground effort presence from the primary landowner. Uh on a lighter note, as all of you uh ended, I want to invite everyone uh April 26, Tuesday, to the um Graange open house. I'm so sorry. Um, Elizabeth, follow me up and tell tell us when that is, but it's April 26th, I believe. Uh, and that might be a Saturday or Sunday.

It's a Sunday. It's Sunday. April, April 26. 12:30.

12:30 to 2:30. A 2-hour open house at the Marina Graange on Carmel Avenue across from the card room. The state graange representative will be there. Their goal is to reopen the Graange, but they can't do it without 100% of local participation to form a new board of directors. Don't call it that. It's a mistake. Uh, but it's it functions similar. It's like an executive committee or something like that. But if you want to use it for all-in food distribution for those people who have food insecurity or you want to use it as a more of a community meeting room, it needs to be it needs to get along with the marina card room because it's essential that parking lot to the graange is essential to the existence of the card room. The card room pays $1,500 a month to lease that parking lot and they they can't really survive without it. So, we got to figure that out. But anyway, if you want to support the Marina Graange being alive, it's died, you know, it's been it's been boarded up for many years. April 26, 12:30 p.m. at the Graange. And then the last thing is on May 5th, which is a Tuesday, the high school is doing mock interviews. They need about 50 community members to listen to job interviews and participate in those interviews as if we the community are the employer interviewing the the applicants. It's a great experience, but no experience is necessary. It's a great way to support our students who are about to transition to post high school. And Justin Collins at the Marina High School is a civics teacher in charge of this. So, contact me or contact Elizabeth or contact the high school and ask to get in touch with Justin Collins, the civics teacher, for a 60 minute time slot. They'll have six or seven of them from 8:20 a.m. to 3:35 p.m. That's the range. And in that

range, there's about six to seven 60 minute time slots. So, each of us can sign up for one or more of those time slots. And I hope that uh Lane, when you and I discussed this, we can get as many uh uh staff to go for one or more hours. It's a fantastic way for staff to connect and feel more connected, learn more about our community and feel, you know, the pride of being helpful and integrated with our with our high school students. So, I hope we can get 50 community members to the high school on May 5th, Tuesday. Thanks a lot, Mayor Projam. You're doing a great job.

Thank you, Mayor. This takes us to um item eight, public comment. This is the Oh, I'm so sorry. Have some staff announcements here. I'm so sorry. I knew I forgot something. Oh, I forgot that. Ishmail first. Sorry about that. Is just when the man says I'm doing a great job. No problem at all.

Our public works director. I just want to remind council and uh the public that this coming Saturday at 10:00 a.m. we have a our first annual um we don't we don't have full uh permanent title yet but Earth and Arbor Day uh planting event. Um staff has been busy removing um it it wasn't even uh landscaping couldn't be considered that it was mostly weeds in between the parking lot and the and the Vince deto uh all that is cleaned up removed and we will be planting 33 trees new trees and uh over a thousand shrubs. So uh everything is there. It's on site uh behind fences. Hopefully nobody uh sneaks out a plant or two. And um we like I said 10:00 we'll have uh waiver forms for visitor for volunteers to fill out and um bring your shovel. If you forget to bring your shovel, we'll have some ready for you and we're just going to plant plant plant as as much as we can get done in those four hours.

Thank you, city manager. I'd like to introduce our new um recreation cultural services director um Elizabeth Casante. Um as the mayor talked about, it really is our staff now. Um from our line level staff to our department directors that lead our our city. And um we're trying to do a better job of showing what happens behind the scenes and and so we apologize it's taking a couple hours here, but our staff really does a tremendous job behind the scenes. When we um hired Elizabeth, it went through an extensive recruitment pro process, had a recruiter, had some great um candidates and and Elizabeth obviously um um was one of the stars and

I won.

She talked about she has a an amazing fun sense of humor. Uh she has so many traits. Her energy, her excitement, her enthusiasm, her passion, her love for recreation, her ideas. Um I mean, just wait a couple years from now of what you're going to see happening. One of the council's big goals is to improve our programming for our youth, our seniors, our families, um our adults. Um that is one of her main strengths. Um she's going to be overseeing all these new parks that are being built. Um the aquatics and the recreation center. Guess what? That's going to be her her to program and make sure that that is a self sustaining um operation. Uh and she is amazingly skilled to do it. One of the things I've asked her to do, she's going to talk a little bit about herself and introduce you to she's going to introduce herself to you. In our interview, she talked about Vodka and I asked her just to tell a little bit. This will give you a little insight of what she does and what she will bring to Marina. So, welcome Elizabeth.

Yeah, thank you very much for that introduction. That was really lovely. I feel I feel very loved right now. Thank you. Uh good evening, Mayor Mayor Prom, uh council members and staff. Um as Lane mentioned, I'm Elizabeth Croissante. um and just wanted to give you a little bit of information about my background and what I kind of can bring to the table. So, um my roots are actually here on the peninsula. Um I was born and raised here. I went to local schools. Um I'm a graduate of Pacific Grove High School. I went to Monterey Peninsula College. Um I have um I left the state of California and got my bachelor's degree from the University of Oregon. Go Ducks. Um and then I also have a master's degree from um DVI University's Keller Keler School of Management. So um what's lovely about this kind of full circle moment um for coming home for me is my parents and I actually moved to Marina uh when I was 14. So they still live here. It's so lovely to come home um and have the opportunity to be a leader in this community. And um I while I migrated north in the early 2000s um kind of spread my my wings and flew the nest a little bit um I always was attracted to municipal government and worked in the field of parks and recreation. So really just continued to build my resume um and gain a lot of experience in program planning, staff supervision, budgeting, program management, all the things associated with it. And if you don't know what working in parks and recreation light is like, I would I would equate it to sometimes being in a circus. Um, where you're juggling, jumping through hoops, doing multiple things. Um, I know the staff staff are listening right now. They're nodding their heads and saying, "Yes, that's

exactly what it's like." So, um, anyway, with my previous agency, um, I was with City of Akavville for almost 11 years and, uh, one of the, uh, legacy projects that I, uh, did there, as Lane mentioned, was, um, this event called Vacon and we modeled it as a special event, um, initially for teens um, to boost our teen programming um, and it was based on the San Diego Comic-Con on. So, an event celebrating all things pop culture, um with artists, vendors, um people doing cosplay, um many different kinds of things. Um this event had a twist where it was primarily highlighting folks from Vakavville and the surrounding area. Um so, we wanted to really, you know, focus on kind of homegrown artistry and vendors. Um this event took off and was far more successful than we ever imagined. The first event we held in 2019 uh was a one day 6 hours. Uh we had a thousand people come. That was way more than we anticipated. Um and fast forward we just they Vakavville hosted it a couple weeks ago. It's a two-day event. We have close to 10,000 people who come and it's grown exponentially in just the layers of programming. Um, so this is the kind of thing where, you know, you take a look at your community and you identify needs and you identify the desires of the community and you're listening to what those community members want. And so this was that was a project that we saw a deficiency in and we were able to kind of fill that service gap. And we quickly learned that far beyond teens, it was very um agreeable for people of all ages. So, as a special event that solely was supposed

to be for a a niche population, quickly became something that, you know, was for the entire community. So, um I really look forward to joining this team. um just I've been here two days and our small but mighty team has already completed and accomplished so many fantastic projects and there's absolutely more to come and so um I am really looking forward to working with the executive leadership team, city council and the recreation and cultural services team to just you know dive in and see um what we can do, what we can get done. So yeah, just give me a couple years. Thank you.

Thank you very much and welcome, Elizabeth. And I just can't help but seeing how um our rec department manager who has been without director for almost a year is just smiling. She cannot stop smiling. Absolutely. She worked so hard this last year. Yes. If if if I'm just going to do it, it's appropriate. I really want to thank Andrea Dalo for carrying the torch. um over the last year and a half. I think it's almost been for her. And so um she's really been really lovely to collaborate with right off the bat. And so um I'm happy to take some of that burden back and let her breathe a little bit.

Yes, thank you very much and welcome. Okay, any more staff announcement? I'll be more careful now. Anybody? Okay, so this takes us to item eight, public comments. And thank you all for your patience. Um so any member of the public may comment now um for anything that is not on the agenda or anything that's on the consent agenda for tonight's meeting. We'll start with people here in the room. You will have up to three minutes. If you'd like to speak, please come up to the podium.

Yeah. See, it's different. I usually have to bring it down. Fine. Thank you. I'm always afraid to get it wrong. My name is Megan Range. I just came in to introduce myself. I'm the new government relations rep for PG&E. Um I have reached out to your staff and I'll be working on a meeting with you. The rest of you, I will be reaching out to you all individually here soon. Just wanted you to know I'm new. I replaced Jasmine. A lot of people are used to Jasmine. I promise to try to be as cool as her, but um I wanted you to know I'm in the area. I'm around. I'll be reaching out and we'll be setting up meetings. Thank you. Oh, thank you. I don't know if it's a coincidence that it seems to when you when when a new app starts, there's a power outage in Berina.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. But yours was not as bad as hers. Five five power outages, I should say. Okay. Welcome. Okay. Anybody else in the room who would like to speak? Now, go high.

Hello everyone. My name is Matthew Sanders and um I'm a graduating senior at Cal State University, Monterey Bay. Today I wanted to not only record but also bring to everyone's attention some of the racially motivated incidents that have occurred on campus. Um starting in September of 2025, uh a student in the predominator dorm had his dorm vandalized. Following that, October 2025, two young ladies also had their dorm vandalized within Sanderly Hall with similar derogatory content as well. Um, following that, the last incident of the fall semester. Um, another another incident occurred on another uh dorm in more proximity within the main campus as well. After those four incidents, it it was determined that it would be best moving forward to establish a direct line of communication with the campus administration. And those conversations were followed through by the Black Student United executive board on campus. Through those conversations, we were able to address well the main goal was to address uh the safety of the black students on campus number one and as well following the repercussions to any of the actions that have happened prior as well. Um through that we came to the solution of the fire escape door should be locked to prevent unnecessary access and unwanted access to and from student dorms as well as implementing a security system to better enhance campus security and protect students and maybe even follow up to have some justice in these situations as well. Um, after those conversations, there was little to no progress made on any of those, and we are still currently trying to come to a

a justifiable solution between both parties. Coming back into the spring semester, there was another incident that took place during Black History Month behind the Otter Otter Student Union building where another incident of vandalism occurred to some of the school's property. uh belong in one of the wagons in the area. And following that, another incident occurred on March 16th. I bring this to everyone's attention because as a student, as a black student on campus, we are disappointed and saddened within the effort and urgency that CSUMB has provided towards us to handle these instances. And I call to all of you and I want to welcome you and formally invite you to a protest that is taking place or a demonstration that is taking place on Thursday, April 23rd from 12:00 to 1 at the Otter Student Union. Thank you.

Thank you, Matthew. And thank you bring for bringing it to our attention. If you ever like to contact either one of us all all of us, our contact information is on the city's website. Yes. Thank you. Is there anybody else in the room who would like to speak? Seeing none, then we'll go to Zoom. Uh Denise Turley, thank you for your patience. Denise, it's your time to speak now. Thank you, Elizabeth. Um uh a a a this is not a potshot. This is a statement of fact. We are two hours into a meeting and we are only to public comment.

Just have to say

for the record. Um so I'm hoping that the two uh app things that uh came up um that you would let the public know what they can and can't service. I was really really hoping to be able to make a com comment to Mr. McDermott that people that are trying to use cell phones to schedule appointments at Montage are in are in portal hell. And I have a I have a friend who has waited two months to get an appointment for a heart monitor cuz they can't get their portal fixed. and she is exper experiencing serious cardiac um causes and uh because of it. Um, so, uh, as a general comment on all portals, housing authority included, um, and, uh, Greyar included, the bleep thing has to work if you're going to count on it as your primary way of communicating with people. Um, I will uh figure out how to get the correct spelling of uh the nice young lady who has joined um uh recreation and cultural services. And I hope that Belinda um and um I hope that someone gets great highresolution photos that can be posted somewhere in the city hall or for a new city hall building of that quilt. From what I could see on my little tiny cell phone, that's a phenomenal quilt. And we're a

family of quilters. So, I'm just saying I hope and thank you, Elizabeth. Uh thank you, Lisa. uh back and front of the quilt so that that is documented and um please um so for the um uh UUT Paula Pollo sent you a very detailed um email on what she would like to see. It doesn't need to be read but it should probably be followed and hey I can give you back a whole 20 seconds. Thanks.

Thank you. Thank you for the 20 seconds, Denise. We'll keep on going to the next uh person here and Nancy Fortman. Welcome, Nancy.

Good evening, mayor and city council members. My name is Nancy Fortman and I reside in district 2, which is represented by Kathy Biala. I'd like to suggest a small addition to the public comment process that when speakers come forward, in addition to stating their name, they might also be asked to share in which district they live and who their council representative is. This would allow council members to more clearly recognize when their own constituents are speaking and better understand the perspectives and concerns coming from their districts. It's a simple step that could make public input more meaningful and useful for you as elected representatives. So, thank you for giving your consideration to this. Thank you very much, Nancy. And just to let you know, um, anybody when you speak, you're you're you don't have to say your name, but you can say your name if you wish to. And from now on, if you wish to let us know in what what district you live in, please do so. So, thank you for the suggestion. We have one more speaker on Zoom. I see Amam. Yes. Hello. Uh, this is about the short-term rental permit. I don't know if now's the time to speak or later. No, that will be that's on the agenda. So that will be uh later in the during the meeting that will be item. Okay, I should

11 A. Thank you. So we we'll hear from you in a little while. Thank you. I hope a little while. So I don't think there were any questions to answer. Oh man, I Oh, I don't see that on mine. Okay, Elizabeth. Oh, Elizabeth Billingsley, would you like to speak, Liz? Or Elizabeth with an S just like me. Okay, might have been a mistake. Okay, thank you. So, we will close public comments and we'll go on to the consent agenda. Agenda. Um, council. Uh,

yes, Mayor Prom, two brief comments on 10C1 and 10F2. Uh, can I proceed? Yes, please. Um, 10 C1 is the um claim against the city. I always take this opportunity to be grateful that we see this information because it's a small window into understanding what is concerning of our residents. Um, and I I think I've asked the last couple times, I am desperately asking the city for a claims summary and the disposition of those claims so that as council members, at least I know I'm interested in understanding that. So, when can we expect that? Um, I think Blinda almost has that ready, so it'll be very soon.

Thank you very much. Looking forward to that. Um, and then 10F2 is just a vacation of land for the traffic circle. We did receive a public comment um, uh, just articulating the importance of having a very well-designed and aesthetically pleasing traffic circle, and I know that's arguably not part of this vacation of land. Um, will the design come back to us? You're asking uh this city manager? Asking the city staff. Yeah, the city manager wants to punt. No, I don't think this design will come back to the council. So, so I guess I'm struggling with that. Um because uh let's pull that 10F2.

Okay, we'll pull that and we'll handle that later. Probably late at night. Is there if I can ask staff, is there significant urgency? I mean if we don't get to that today I am not positive on that. Guido do you know? Yeah. So it is delaying their project. Oh thank you Edw. Would you like to give some comments about this? This is our consulting engineer. Yes. So the the timing Thank you. Um he spent

uh Elizabeth got stuck with uh McAdams as well. Um the or uh uh yeah the vacation is timing is necessary in order to get the design and construction going. Um there are elements uh within the roundabout or the traffic circle that have not yet been designed. Um so those those elements we don't yet know what they're going to be. Okay. Yeah, I guess I'd still like to pull it that the existing traffic traffic circles that have occurred recently are atrocious. Not a single person that I've talked to thinks that they are um good for the city and I don't think we can afford to make that same mistake twice.

Just if I can quickly I mean just a comment that there's I mean it's not agendaized the roundabouts or the traffic circles are not agendaized. It's really just a vacation. So, I guess I could not support the vacation unless we understand what the traffic circle is going to look like. So, I guess I would vote no if we can't talk about it or ask staff to bring that back um and and agendaize it. But that's for me. I don't know obviously the rest I don't know if the city man can you say if that's or maybe Guido that's it's a sliver. I know it's a very narrow strip. If we don't get that, if the developer doesn't get that strip, will they still be able to construct a roundabout or not?

No. But maybe a compromise could be to what's on the agenda today is to vote for the summary vacation and staff could provide a update about when we get the 30% drawings in the future if that's possible just so we can keep and that's to the council. Okay. Some type offormational update. Oh, I've heard so much on this issue. I would likely be voting no on. I'd still like to pull it though. Okay. Then we'll put it at the end of the agenda. Yes. Thank you. Okay. Council member.

Yes. I need to pull 10 G2. I have a conflict of interest um on that item and so I need to be uh recused from that vote. So as we uh you know approve the consent agenda, I I will I mean and you pull that then I'll step out. Thank you. You don't need to step out for that if we just approve. So I move to approve the consent agenda minus 10F 2 and 10 G 10 G two. I second. Thank you. Anita, can we please get a roll call? Council member McAdams. Hi.

Council member McCarthy. Council member Biala. Yes. Mayor Perten Fischer. Yes. Mayor Delgado. Yes. Thank you. That passes. And then now I'll move to approve the item that council member Biala recuses herself from. Uh that's 10 G2. Uh Joby. Happy to second that. And please have a roll call. Council member McCarthy. Yes. Council member McAdams. Mayor Prom Fischer. Yes. Mayor Delgado. Yes.

Thank you. That also is approved. Thank you. That takes us to item 11, public hearings. And I think most of the public is here for this. 11A will open a public hearing, take testimony from the public, and consider introducing an ordinance for the short-term rental. Oh. She's missing.

We're fine. Okay, keep on going. 11A, this this is about proposed amendments to a section of the Marina Municipal Code for short-term rentals. city manager who is leading us in this and mayor prom um I'll be recusing myself yeah

from this um item as I believe I have a conflict but I will be participating as to my own interest as allowed by the Brown Act um and in describing my interest I just want to share that going back to 2019 I on the planning commission I have recused myself from these issues even though I have never participated in a short-term rental until 2022 and the reason is is the attorney at the time suggested that because I thought that I might in the future it would be safe to do so. So in abundance of caution, I have always recused myself and will continue to do so tonight. Okay. Somebody will let you know when we're No, I will be participating as to my own interest. Okay.

Thank you very much. Council member McCarthy. Okay. Now to the city. So we have Marissa. She's online. She'll be handling this. Yes. Can you hear me? Yes. Welcome, Marissa. We can hear you. Hi. Good evening. There should be a presentation. Oh, thank you.

Okay. Um, has the old date. Um, I'm here tonight uh to present on the Marina Municipal Court ordinance amendments to 17.42170 regarding short-term rentals. Uh this got continued from the last council meeting and next slide please. City this is uh city this is an up or a follow-up presentation from the March 17th presentation on the short-term rental updates. Uh the this is a list of city council recommendations uh to require a 180day rental limit for each year, prohibit short-term rentals and rec in recreational vehicles, tents, and other non-permanent structures, and continue to require owner occupancy for short-term rental properties consistent with the original 2019 adopted ordinance. Establish a cap of 50 short-term rental permits because currently we do not have one and require a visible on-site placard displaying the contact information of the property manager on the building and require the posting of the property address and property manager contact information on online listings. Create an online complaint form on cclick fix. This was added to our website and uh it was already part of the platform to or to report short-term rentals, but we created updated the website for the short-term rental uh platform or on our short-term rental website and to limit short-term rentals to single family residential homes and prohibit short-term rentals on properties that have an accessory dwelling unit or a junior accessory dwelling unit. Next slide, please. The recommended motion is to open a public hearing and introduce the ordinance to amend the section and uh find that the mo that the adoption of

the ordinance is exempt from environmental review pursuant to 15061B3 of the SQL guidelines. And that's it. Thank you, Marissa. And as always, we'll first go to the public. Anybody of from the public who would like to speak about this item? Short-term rentals first in the room.

Hi, my name is Sean McDonald resident since 2017, the year that my wife and I purchased our home here utilizing the VI per loan program which we were eligible for due to my wife's military service. As we were both working as on as educator salaries at Marina schools, we were unable to save for a six-f figureure down payment and the VA loan program allowed us to purchase a home without one. We have been very thankful for this opportunity. The reason banks are willing to lend to borrowers like us under this program is because the VA backs the loan in case of failure. On the front end, this program was fantastic for us. However, not putting down a down payment means we have a higher monthly payment for a larger loan. In late 2017, we welcomed our first child into the world, and expenses of course increased. To help account for these increasing expenses, in 2018, we began moving in and out of our home, largely during school breaks and even during some weekends to rent it out to visitors. City staff at the time confirmed that this use was allowed by city code. By 2019, we were hoping to expand our family, and we knew expenses would again increase, and the quantity of movement in and out of our house would be very difficult in the long term. So that year, we took the additional debt to build a guest house that we would move into so that we could rent out the main home as a short-term rental. The same year was when the planning commission and city council debated the current short-term rental ordinance. At that time, I participated regularly in the meetings of both governing bodies. City staff and city council were both aware of our situation and confirmed confirmed that the ordinance put into place would allow us to rent both our main home and the guest house as an STR throughout the year. In 2020, the state put in to effect law that that lessened ADU requirements and mandated ADUs permitted from 2020 not be allowed to be rented as STRs. The state streamlined the process for ADU building and allowed for benefits such as smaller sets backs that we did not have access to when building our ADU. As only these newer ADU builds would have access to these benefits, the state did not intend to disallow ESTR use of ADUs such as

ours that were permitted prior to 2020. While our ADU is small, living it provides important income for our family, allowing to rent our main home as an STR. While it's currently limited to just a few times a year, moving in and out if even the ADU is still necessary to provide for our family. Since the current ordinance has been put in place, we have followed the rules and in changing them now to disallow STR use on our property would be a huge strain on our family. For these reasons, our family asks that you allow properties with an ADU permitted prior to 2020 to continue as they have been under the current limits. You please allow us to continue to rent as an STR throughout the year, not limiting us to 180 days, and please continue to allow STR rentals of our main host and ADU. Thank you for listening and we appreciate your attention.

Thank you very much, Mr. McDonald.

Anybody else in the room who would like to speak? Good evening. Good evening, city council. Brian McCarthy, and I'm speaking again to my own interest as provided by the Brown Act. Um, first I want to thank you for your service and recognize the incredible responsibility you have this have to set policy. I know it's not easy and I appreciate the work that you do. Um, and I'll second the mayor's comments. It's incredibly humbling to be on um this side of the fence. It gives a whole new perspective um that I haven't participated in in a while. Um, I'm not sure if I intended to speak here tonight or not, but luckily I'm here in person because I'm seeing some information in the presentation that wasn't in the staff report. It's actually brand new information uh to me tonight. Um, and it's slightly problematic uh for me. Um, in 2024, I actually received an email from city staff indicating that my personal unit would be treated as a single family home with an ADU. Um, but that this presentation has my address and listed as potentially something different. Um, so again, you know, um, I'm glad that I'm here and and I mentioned this, um, not to kind of call out staff, but to say that these issues are really challenging, right? Like the definitions often conflict with each other, and it's very possible that a unit might qualify for three or four different definitions. Well, which one would staff rely on? And and and that's kind of the question. Um, for the record, I did submit uh a an email um to each council member. Um, and I think what I would like to ask and recommend is that you consider keeping the original planning commission link. I think the planning commission spent um four different sessions I believe going through these things. Um, they were very thoughtful. They were very um articulate and considering public input. Um and uh they and their language kept uh the language of ADUs and duplexes because post SB11 state law, ADUs are already prohibited. That doesn't need to

be in the city code. That's already disallowed and your city staff would already enforce that um because state law requires them to do so. Um, so I I also favor you keeping the language of um, pre-state law um, ADUs, allowing those to be short-term rentals and maybe providing an offramp if you if the city council wants to go in a certain direction on these issues. Um, I think it's very challenging for families who have depended on um, a certain paradigm of income uh, to almost overnight um, have that taken away from them. that's certainly within your power to do, but I think that if if you want to go in a different direction, really think of a long-term off-ramp. Um, and the last thing I'll say is that I know council member McAdams had mentioned some issues that really brought a lot of these issues to surface. And I think your planning commission really took that to heart and crafted some language that would resolve a majority of the bad actors that, you know, unfortunately there's only probably a couple bad actors that created the problems for the entire city. Um, so again, I'm hoping you keep the planning commission language of duplexes and ADUs uh and the ordinance language. Thank you.

Thank you. Is anybody else in the room who would like to speak on this item? Okay, then we'll go to Zoom. Okay. Um, good evening again, Aman. I hope I pronounce your name correctly. It's your time to speak. You have up to three minutes. Hello. Yes. Yeah, you did pronounce my name correctly. Um, actually, um, the gentleman who just spoke actually spoke onto my concern. Um, I am a homeowner, but I guess I technically am a condo or owner. Uh, I have a short-term rental uh permit and um as was mentioned um sometimes to take care of family members um I would have to take off of work um and to kind of supplement my income uh I use the short-term rentals to help with that. Uh I was worried I I had listened to some of the previous meetings. I was worried about some of those concerns such as it affecting the neighbors. Um, and even with it being my own personal, I had some concerns about short-term rentals of them just of guests destroying my house or having parties or things like that. Uh, from my experience so far, uh, I haven't actually seen those um concerns, I had when I uh, started doing this, my HOA was aware of it. Um, my neighbors, they both were aware. they both have my number um in case there were any issues and if they said that there was any problems you know I would halt doing so and um they haven't brought up any concerns. Uh one of the things I've noticed is um given that we have CSUM in this area sometimes family members when they want to visit their uh uh the students their family members um instead of using like a hotel

sometimes this can be a good option for them. And if they don't find it in Marina, then they would find it elsewhere. Um, and uh, it keeps uh, individuals and visitors here in the area. They spend on local businesses and uh, the what has been mentioned before, the 14% toot tax stays within Marina. It's one of the higher uh, tax rates in the area. And I know in some of the other agendas, you were looking for ways to generate income. So, I feel it can be a beneficial for both ways. Um, and uh, the only thing that would make mine not in compliance is the fact that it might be under the language of a duplex. Um, and so if the council can reconsider that language.

Thank you. Emma, can you please repeat your last sentence? You said the only thing that made it made your uh ADU not in compliance or I I I I I own a I guess a duplex and I don't know if that would be considered a single family residence.

Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. Okay. Is there anyone else on Zoom or in the room who would like to speak? Okay. Seeing none, we'll close public comments and that's not correct. Council members, any questions, remarks? Council member McAdams.

Thank you, Mayor. I just I think with the city attorney, my question would be if we allowed ADUs prior to when the state law came into effect, I mean, isn't that could could ADU owners then argue that that isn't legal or that's not fair or we're not treating them the same? Could there be any issues like that?

Um, not that I can think of. I mean, putting a date of 2020 uh makes sense. That's when the city first also enacted uh its ADU ordinance and in that ADU ordinance uh also required um that properties post uh 2020 need to have a deed restriction that does not allow the ADU to be used for anything less than 31 days, meaning it can't be an STR. So, um you could treat pre2020 uh annions differently.

Thank you for that. And then for staff, I Guido, how how would you know? I mean, is there a list already of pre2020 ADUs? I mean, I can't imagine there's not a ton of ADUs in the city. What would that look like for staff to to figure that out? We do have a list of the ADUs. So, okay. And it says the the year that they're built, right? Okay. And would that be difficult for staff to monitor or enforce? No, it seems to be pretty easy. Okay. Okay. Those are all my questions. Thank you.

Thank you, Council Member Vat. Thank you, Mayor. Um, so just as a followup, so it's likely that there's going to be few, correct? Because that that predated 2020. Yeah. I mean, we've we've approved 66 in the last three years. So the pre20 ones would be not as many. I'd have to go back and look at the numbers. So 10 20 possibly. I don't know. So So but but likely a small number. Yeah.

Okay. All right. So first um I want to just ask um I want to thank the planning commission and and uh all the folks that have um you know been part of this quido but uh I wanted to find out with all the um the parameters that we see on this the chart in the presentation are there is this uh the enforcement staff is this going to be okay for them? I mean, I don't know how hard it is for them to, you know, follow up and and uh, you know, watch for the 50 permits or the visibility on-site plaqueard or, you know, I I are any of these difficult for this staff to re enforce?

Um, I can we did Oh, one second. So we we did uh we're have a draft contract with Decard Technologies which will significantly help us with the enforcement provisions. They will actually data mine every single day all of the permitted and unpermitted ones and then use other things.

Yeah. And then in terms of some of the stuff that commission and council has asked us to add to the ordinance actually will enhance enforcement in terms of if there is contact information on a clearly visible sign that uh residents because no no one wants to complain directly to the SDR owner. But if we have the placard there, people will be able to quickly get the phone number, email. Um, I think we also added provisions about having a 24hour uh noise monitoring, so somebody could quickly identify, you know, if there's a noise complaint, they would contact the the contact. Um and then also the council and commission added provisions related to it's not just the property owner, it's the property owner, the property manager, the agent, anybody associated with the permit, we can step up enforcement and go after them. So the stuff the counseling commissions that actually will make enforcement better.

Sure. And I think Marissa wanted to comment on something. Thank you, Gito. Yes, I wanted to add information that upon renewal of the permit, the applicant would need to submit proof of all the requirements, the expected calendar that they plan to rent for the 180 days, the placard, the floor plan, everything. Great. And Marissa, do you expect to be be making sort of the rounds of a of an actual site uh you know visit for some of these things because you wouldn't know if they're posting things or taking them down after a day or so,

right? So yeah, I mean I will I will take their photos and put it in the file in their permit file, but I will also make my rounds through, you know, the course of my regular uh field work.

Great. Great. And I I think that from the tone of what I'm saying is that I feel very strongly about us as a city curbing the abuses that can go on with STRs because I think all around us uh we have seen that this is not just our surmising that there's going to be future problems. We know that there is and so tightening up like that I think is preventing a lot of grief for later. So I'm very concerned about that. And if Marissa, you find you need some other resources or whatever, you know, I think that our council would be amendable to that. Um, just on on page nine, um, I know that the last time I had talked about um somehow um making the 50-foot zone of exclusion a little bit more uh understandable to lay people. So I I remember talk talking about that. Can we still do that? So, for example, um uh you know, you say the 50-foot zone of exclusion, which may mean in general adjacent next door to an existing ADR or directly across the street from existing ADR and on either side of that ADR, some au rather. So, something of that language because on reading it um a lay person would be saying, "What are they saying 55 foot? What does that mean? Uh I mean it's certainly u so if we get a favorable approval tonight uh we Marissa, myself and Brian are going to be doing quite a bit of community outreach to the current holders, potential holders. The maps that we've prepared will be put on the city website. Um so there will be an education component to better explain the new policies. But if the council wants to add additional language, that's certainly within your right.

Yeah. just because this is the ordinance and it would be nice for everybody to understand not just the the people who are actually having the AD the the AD strate certainly within the council's right but like I said we will

because I would like to see that because it that that doesn't mean anything um and in in a response to the speakers um uh you know in terms of um some exceptions for grandfathering so it sounds like from what the attorney the our city attorney said is that we could grandfather things in but set specific criteria as well. We don't have to say grandfathering is a cart blanch whatever new ordinance uh criteria that we've developed since then uh they're exempt from. We can say we'd like to grandfather in u before 2020. However, certain things like the posting of this or, you know, the uh abiding by the short-term vacation uh um cap, for example. I mean, there's so many things in here. Can we stipulate that it's only basically that you're allowed to do that?

In other words, yes, you you're allowed to apply for a short-term rental permit. You still have to meet the other requirements. So, if you, for example, have an ADU that was built prior to 2020, if you were to go in that direction, you could say, "Yes, you can apply for an short-term rental permit, but you still need to meet the other requirements." Okay. And could we get even more selective in saying that not all of them you have to meet or um if there's structural things for example we might say you don't have to comply with that or I'm not if you can be a little more specific

yeah you know I'm just saying that you that one of the speakers said that there are some structural things that would be very difficult for them to comply with um and I can't remember what what which one that was but I'm sorry we can't talk to you directly. So does anyone remember what that was in terms of maybe compliance making uh 180 day? No, it was a structural thing. Well, but anyway, okay. So, you're saying I think the quote was it would be a financial hit to the family to to accommodate all of the changes. That's my understanding.

Okay. Well, I I I really believe that our improvements over time are really necessary. However, I don't have a problem with um making um a uh you know, exception for people who have um built an an SDR um before 2020. Also, um we have single family homes. I think it's, you know, it it is aimed at single family homes. all of our concerns about STRs, but duplexes seems like it it's not to me that may be acceptable because when we said single family homes, I was thinking no, we're not going to have where where somehow residents are on top of each other and now, you know, we can have three ADR a STRs in that complex or whatever. That that's too much. But it seems like I guess the condos or the duplexes. It's more duplexes I guess are pretty feel to me like they're single family homes. They they have an adjouring wall, but they seem to be more separated. So unless I'm wrong about that interpretation of what a duplex is, I think that it would be acceptable for me to add that to our single family restrictions.

That's all. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor Dato.

Um, thank you all for going and before me because you brought up some good points. I'll go a little bit backwards to kind of for the flow to be better. Um, Council Member Bolan just addressed the duplex issue and uh, the speaker who has a duplex sounded like she was unsure if she was a one family uh, structure or if she was a duplex that she was not. And so I I want to confirm whether it if I have a duplex, am I uh prohibited from having an STR because I'm not a one family uh dwelling?

That would be my understanding. A plain reading of the ordinance. Yeah. Okay. So I didn't see in here a definition of one family in the def in the list of definitions. So I wasn't sure. But if I own if I own half of a duplex, is that possible? I mean, there are some condos where there there's multiple owners in a duplex. I'm sorry, I didn't hear the question. Somebody was uh if I live in a duplex and I own a duplex, well, can I own half a duplex in Marina and have someone else own the other half? You can, but under the current ordinance before the council, you wouldn't get an STR ordinant permit, right?

You would have to add that back into the ordinance. Yeah. So, I'm trying to single family or duplex would be allowed. Okay. So, I'm trying to be I'm trying to think selfishly here for a moment. If I live in one half of a duplex and someone else theoretically own the other half and if you're I'm sorry if you have a two the way the ordinance is written now it's restricted to single family I know I know single family properties so

I understand how the ordinance is written now but we're talking about changing it. And so I'm asking you, are there duplexes in Marina that might have multiple owners or are all If I were to pull up the GIS map, I could probably count on my hand how many R2 properties are here. There's very few R2 properties. Uh the speaker was actually speaking about a condo, which has not been addressed today, and that's that's that was a pretty long discussion when we brought this last month that the council did not want it in multifamily. But in terms of R2s, there's probably nine or 10 in the whole city.

Okay. So, now let's talk about a condo because that's what this speaker was referring to. I didn't understand that. Thank you. So, a condo shares walls, right? That's correct. And does a condo share walls between owners or are they owned by the same person? I'm I'm not I'm not sure what you're if I live in a condo a

condo you you can you you can condoise an entire property. There have been ADU laws that have been passed that allow you to build an ADU on your property to condoise the ADU separate from the house. You can have a shared wall town home. You can have a condoed property with or without shared walls. a condo and the definition of a condo and common airspace can be however your CCNR is your HOA. So I I don't want to bore the council, but I mean we could I it's a pretty I mean there's a lot of different ways to build land and build properties. So I I yeah I mean I could go on and on about this.

All right. So living in a single family home, if I live in a single family home, I don't share my walls with another family. If I live in a condo, I can share my walls with another family. I wouldn't want the other family to have an STR. I wouldn't want visitors coming throughout the year on the other side of a shared wall. Does that make sense? That makes sense. But the person who spoke is advocating to allow the STRs in the condo. So that that's contrary to what the speaker said. So, okay. So,

but I I understand what you're saying, Mayor. Obviously, if I owned a condo and I had a shared wall and somebody rented out a property for half the year, that could be concerning. I I do understand your point, Mayor Delgado. All right. So that's my point on that because I thought the whole point of putting limitations on STRs was to reduce neighborhood incompatibility.

Yeah. To increase neighborhood function and safety and comfort for the people that live here. Like we don't put hotels on a street and and we don't want we don't want STRs all over the city.

Okay. So, I'm kind of in favor of not allowing condos or apartments to have STRs because it could it could affect, you know, a lot of families. So, I'd like to hear from other other council members because right now it's not allowed to have an STR in anything other than a one family dwelling and a condo or a duplex would not be a one family dwelling even though we don't have a definition of it. You've told me a few minutes ago that condos would be out. Is that correct?

That's my understanding. Okay. Uh, I support the pre2020 exemption. Carve out. Carve out.

Carve out. Because as others have said, if if the rules were followed and I did something before the rules changed and now the rules are going to change and cause me a loss of income because I don't fit the new rules that and because there's not that many, uh, I think that those properties will always be worth more because they have a grandfather exemption. And so those homeowners are going to get a double bang for their buck. Not only do they get to get annual income, but when they go to sell, they can advertise as I've got an ADU and you can be an STR on my land, so I'm going to raise the price of my land, my property higher because it's worth more. And that's just, you know, that's what the carveout will do. Um, I don't have any other issues with the yellow highlighted um text that's in the staff report in the in the new ordinance. Um, but I also don't remember what Brian McCarthy is referring to when he says go back to the planning commission set of rules. So, without taking too much time, can staff list a few of the more important changes we're about to vote on that are inconsistent with the planning commission set of recommendations.

Uh, so I mean we actually had one, two, we had three separate planning commission uh hearings. So, it would be, you know, it be a little bit challenging to go through every single edit. I I would say uh the commission uh recommended to the council about allowing SDRs on properties that have ADUs. Um trying to see the other they went back and forth on the 180day requirement. Um they uh yeah I mean those would be the two big ones I can identify.

All right. I'd like to address those then.

Um uh the the whole the a whole other point and we were talking about neighborhood um safety. The other major piece was affordable housing. So, if all ADUs in the city could be STRs, if they complied with the 50-foot rule and the other uh rules, we'd have less affordable housing because we'd have more ADUs not not available to live in permanently year round. And so I like the idea of keeping post 2020 ADUs available as or unavailable STRs to maximize the ability of people to long-term rent smaller units for less money than they'd have to rent or pay for larger units. the 180day. I'm a little confused, but I I like the 180day because to me it means that I can't rent my house out more than 180 days per year. My neighbors don't have to put up with me renting my house to visitors 180 days a year. Am I missing anything in that interpretation of the 180day rule? Oh, let me go back to your first point. So, the the what the commission went back and forth on was not allowing STRs and ADUs, which is not allowed by state law. It was prohibiting an STR permit on a property that has an ADU. And what um they deliberated on that they recommended that to allow properties that have ADUs to allow an STR permit for the property not in an ADU. So that was the first point.

The second point, let me refer to that please. Guido, I'm sorry to interrupt you. um the the main family moves into the ADU, rents out the front house, and therefore the ADU can't be long-term rented because it's needed for the main family to live in because the main family has to live on the property at least 6 months out of the year to have an ADU. Is that correct? I'm sorry. You have a short-term rental. I'm so sorry. I

have a short-term rental. So, so let me let me just to answer both questions. So, so the 180day requirement, that was a lot of work with our city attorney's office. Uh, the original meeting with the council on August 6th, the direction from the council was to the staff, hey, what can you do to strengthen the ordinance to support Marissa and code enforcement? What can you do to protect the neighborhoods? U, that was the that was the discussion on August 6. So, working with the city attorney's office, looking at other ordinances, um looking at if you want to get a property owner exemption, you have to live on a property for more than 180 days. And that we we pulled that and Marissa can quote either from Pacific Grove or Seaside or wherever. It seemed like a very objective, reasonable way that if somebody could prove to the staff that they have the property owner exemption, that means they live there for more than six months out of the year. That's a very clear and objective way for us to monitor them. It protects the neighborhood because now you can't just rent out your property for the whole year. And it preserves the neighborhood integrity, which was the focus of the August 6th meeting. So I hope hopefully that provides context,

right? So the 180 days is to make sure that I live there six months. And so if I rent something out for more than 180 days, that's not good for the neighborhood in the same line of thinking that the 180 days restriction was put in the first place. So I I support the 180day um rule. And so that's why I don't I'm not in favor of going back to the planning commission perspective because those two those two rules that are now before us tonight I can see the value of and if we exempt the people who were before 2020 who have different rules with their ADUs such as we heard from Shawn McDonald hope I didn't say his wrong his last name wrong he is exemp did his family can move into the ADU and rent out the main uh or stay in the main and rent out the ADU and he might do both. I think he might have explained that but he would still be restricted let me ask would he still would his family still be would his property still be restricted to the 180 days 180 day restriction?

Mr. Mayor, we'll we'll go we'll go to council member McAdams now. Thanks. Yes. Thank you very much. Sorry. Thank you. You got your questions answered. Yes. Um I'm just curious, what is the fine or the consequence if you are advertising an illegal or unlicensed short-term rental? Currently, we don't. We actually baked that into the draft ordinance before you. So, on section 11, uh you know, if you're if you're advertising an unpermitted one, that's automatically a violation. That was something that the council asked us to research on August 6th. Yes. Okay.

We pulled that from other ordinances. And that actually makes Marissa's job easier for enforcement because there's been a little bit of a a shell game about no, I'm on this website and it just makes it very clear if you're advertising an unpermitted one, it's just straight up a violation. But is there like a fine or is there Marissa can quote in terms of the fines? I don't have this off the top of my head. Okay. And we don't need to put the fine in the ordinance. No, because we already have our schedule. Interrupt the Oh, the next item. It's on the P schedule.

It's on the P schedule. Thank you. Okay. And then also if if there is a bad player, whether advertising or short-term renting, etc. Are they allowed to then apply for an applic? You know what I mean? Like is there a you if you are a bad player, you don't get to apply for a license for two years or three, right? We added that to the ordinance and I have to find it uh somewhere in there. Okay. Okay. Perfect. Um it's in there. We added it. Yeah.

Okay. Thank you. And so I'm um happy to support allowing ADUs built prior to 2020. And that would be they get to apply for a license. We're not just automatically saying if it's before 2020 you get to do whatever you want. No. So I think the language in the ordinance should be then that you can apply for a license. Right.

And then also with regards to the zone of exclusion, um I understand what council member Bial is sort of saying, but I think that the language that she's wanting to use is just a little too interpretive. So, if maybe we could include something like contact staff for the specific map to show an exact zone of exclusion in your at your property or something like that. At least there's guidance of how residents can that's can figure that out. Totally fine. Okay. I think that would um would be

just to be clear. I mean that that wouldn't be in the ordinance. That would be more sort of an operational information where you apply Yes. Yeah. Just instead of like the backyard or the fence or just to be like I

we encourage you know the the public to to contact staff for the maps. Um and then I think that's all I mean as far as um every Thank you so much for this work. I know this is not easy. Um, and I am pleased that, you know, we're supposed to be, you know, we're going to be this pro housing city pretty soon and and I think that this is a step in that direction. So, um, I'm happy to make a motion whenever council is ready.

I have another question. Um because we have spoken about definitions and it's unclear you know what exactly definition is for a combo or well duplex would be but anyway on this uh this is for the first time that we saw the list with the callers and for for the public this these are the current um short-term rental permit holders

and there's one more um um color that I'm not clear about. It says residents multi- multiple family property and we want to exclude share uh structures with shared walls but as if I'm not mistaken both those orange ones are like single family residences they don't share walls so why would they not be allowed to I'd have to pull up the zoning I googled doing I'm sorry I had one more thing Sorry, I had one more thing. Is that okay? Okay.

Sorry. Thank you so much. Um, with regards to the allowing the ADUs, it doesn't mean like the license is connected to uh one home, right? Just because you have a light like don't ADUs usually have different addresses than main homes? They do. There's usually a A or a B. So that so that license is tied to that specific address, right? I don't necessarily want to see like, oh, I have an ADU and I can like rent the main home and rent the ADU like or is or is it fluid like that where you can just swap and use your AD your license for whatever?

Yeah. And I I'd have to find it because we've made so many changes. Uh but we did actually add to the ordinance that you can't have um concurrent. Um yes. Okay. So to answer your question, you can't have it. Oh, I have the STR permit in the shed and here in the house and that was one of the other shell games that Marissa was having to deal with. So it's very clear you get one SDR, one property,

one address. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Got it. And then with us getting Decker technology, the well the sales pitch at least has been every day they data mine. And so if somebody tries to add another to a same property, they'll be able to quickly alert Marissa and I. Great. Thank you for that. Just clarification here. So you may have two separate addresses, one for the main property, one for the Eden view, but it's still one property, right? But we Yeah, we wouldn't allow two on one property moving forward. Yeah. Yeah.

So, my question about those two orange uh addresses that do have permits at the moment and as far as I can tell, I'm getting older. I have to take off I have to do too. But um so they have they currently do have permits. As far as I can tell, they don't share any walls with neighbors. So why would they not be allowed to? Yeah. Can we exclude or can we Well, I I can certainly take a look at that and we we can follow up, but that that's Yeah, I I don't I'd have to look up this on me right now.

Or could we um I'm asking the city of Trinidad now. Could we exempt some that currently do have permits or would that not be fair for their neighbors if they are also pre2020? And yeah, I mean, okay. You're saying to exempt specific property? Yeah. So to to allow them still the two orange ones to still keep their permits or apply sort of an objective criteria. Not this is so we can only say if they don't have any shared walls, they would still be able to.

Yeah. But they are they have you have a duplex. You can have a duplex but not have a shared wall. And I think the council is moving towards allowing it only in the R1 zone. That's that's the gist of what you guys were just talking about. Well, the orange ones are labeled as residents multiple family property, but what I see they have their own units and they don't share any walls. I once I I have to pull the floor plan to verify all that. So I that's what I can do right now. So yeah, I know that um if you're going to build a motion, I hope you can put that in there. So, council member Biala. Thank you, Mr.

Um, so I just want to make this clear. What you said is that you have, you know, an address with a the main house and then B is the ADU and you treat the the the both as one address, one STR, one property. That's what we're writing the ordinance. Okay. So, let's say you have the ADU. You cannot have an STR in and an ADR in the same location. That's already that's that's by law. You can't do that. You can't have an STR in an ADU. In an ADU in an ADU, right? What the council is adding to the ordinance is if you're pre2020, right?

You can have it. That's the carveout. But what the council has added is to say if you have an ADU on a property, you're not allowed to have an STR permit. In the big house and in the ADU, anything period? Okay. Yes. Okay. And is that what the planning commission determined? Is that was that consistent with the planning commission? No. Your their recommendation was to allow ah okay on the property.

Yeah. Okay. So I would be in favor of our revision of that. Okay. Got it. Okay. Now, when I'm thinking about this the the the duplex, I guess um you know, the mayor had expressed, imagine yourself, you know, even though you own half of the thing and you've got probably a really really thick wall because why would you you buy something when you can hear your neighbor because they happen to share the wall,

right? Um, but still when I think about it, you could see yourself as being very separated from the other uh duplex, but then again, it's closer than anything we might have wanted otherwise. You know, that it's just a shared wall. So, I think I'm Yeah, I I live in a town home in San Jose. I wouldn't personally want somebody to rent out an STR, right? I mean, you do share a wall. Yeah, but that's my own personal

No, I I I understand it. I was trying to think it through again. Even though I was trying to be a little bit more lenient on that, but I putting myself in that situation, I think I would still stick with the single family residence only. So, I retract my my idea before. Thank you. This city attorney would like to speak. Just just to be clear. So, as I understand, a duplex is a single property, but that has two homes on it. Correct. So, and you would have to own and be a resident in in half of it. So, you would be the one who is renting out the other part as the owner. Is that right? Right.

So, we're not talking about the condo situation where you have, you know, potentially on several sides. So you as the owner would be the one who was potentially renting out the other half of unless your property unless if you leave town for like the one of the speakers said, you know, you can own you can you could own half the condo the duplex, sorry, have the duplex and you can rent out your own duplex then because you leave for a weekend or you leave for a vacation. I I I think that's a different situation, but I I'm thinking of the traditional duplex where it's two homes on one property.

Yeah. But you own you could you could be on unit A and there's unit B and you don't own unit B. You're here in unit A. You don't have to own both if you're in an R2 zone. You can own one or two of Right. You can own both or you can own one. Right? So, but the question that was posed to me is, well, what about a condo? And well, a condo is traditionally multif family. And then the question that was posed to me was, well, I you can condoise anything. So, what I would like to do, um, mayor, before we let you speak again, I would like, um, council member McAdams, you offer to start making a motion.

Sure. Thank you. Um, I move that we open a public hearing introducing ordinance number 2026 to be assigned amending the Marina Municipal Code section 17.42.170 42.170 short-term rentals and find the adoption of the ordinance exempt from environmental review pursuant to section 15061B3 of the SQA guidelines and allow ADUs built prior to 2020 to apply for a license and include well the language about the zone of exclusion

uh that staff that staff will prepare an administrative memo articulating the zone of exclusion. Excellent. Great. And second second. Okay. No more comments. Okay. Anita, can we I had I had comment. Sorry. He had some You still want to comment though? Yeah. Uh so is it my turn to go or someone else's?

Yes. Mary, you your turn. I apologize. Okay, thank you. I apologize for taking so much time earlier. Um, yeah, I'm really sorry for that. Um, now I just want to ask one question. Um, if I have an if I have a pre2020 ADU and I get my license approved for an STR, can I sometimes rent the main unit and sometimes rent the ADU?

You cannot rent the ADU for an STR. I guess theoretically you could rent the ADU for more than 31 days.

Okay. So, if I built my ADU before 2020, the motion says I can rent the ADU or it says I can rent my main house. Uh the way that I understood the motion is that if you have an ADU built before 2020, you are eligible to apply for an STR permit and you would be allowed to rent out the main house. That's my understanding of the motion. But not the ADU. No, you cannot use the ADU for an STR. Okay. Okay. Then

and like that's state law. Okay. Okay. So, I'll I'll finish there and just turn it to the rest of the council to make sure that that's what we wanted the motion to state. Thank you very much. Thank you everyone. And I apolog I was trying to answer your question while complying with all state law. So, sorry for the slow answer. Right. So, that's prior to 2020. That's the exception that we would make because right now where we stand with our council leaning towards this that a single property with an ADU cannot have an STR. I thought that's what you said. Is that correct? Correct.

Okay. So, so, so, so that's why the exemption 2020 will allow that. But anything after that, what we're saying in in in council's version, I think we have to add it, is that a single property with an ADU cannot have an STR because the state law says if you have an ADR, you can't have an STR. State law doesn't say that. This the council's making that direction. Yes.

Oh, okay. that whoever I I agree with that but so this already I'll check with the city attorney that was already in the analysis so all we do in the um motion is that in in what we're yes that's in the in the draft before you with the carveout added tonight so we do got it okay make the exemption and I would like to add a friendly amendment that staff look into those um two properties

specifically those two but as an example for properties that don't do not share walls but are not listed as single family I think it and if they don't share a wall I think they should be treated the same as if single family resident okay that's just staff direction though right like it's not in the ordinance because I'm not able to support that because I don't really understand what it means and also I I have no idea what those properties are. So I'm not like I understood your motion to be that the administrative memo and the zoning exclusion and these two properties these are things that are built into the motion but not in the ordinance. Okay, great. That's how I understood it.

Great. Perfect. That's fine. I'm happy to but if they're not in the in the ordinance but it's in your motion. Okay. So that's what Anita is going to report. Okay. And so you would come back with that information or staff is just going to figure out what they're doing with those two.

I I I don't know if if you guys want me to. I wouldn't necessarily. So for example, when the council adopted a zoning code amendment about a year ago, the motion was to tighten up the definition of what the director's discretion was. And so Renee and I actually worked on a memo that he approved that gave direction to staff about what would that mean about the director's discretion to kick up a permit. Right. So that so I wouldn't necessarily bring it back. Okay. So you're just going to look into them and then make your own make a decision. Okay. Perfect. That's fine. I'm happy to do that. I'm not sticking to the ordinance though. That's okay. Thank you.

Call for the question. Yes. I think we're ready to Anita. Can we please get a vote? Council member McAdams. Hi. Council member Biala. Yes. Mayor Delgado. Yes. Mayor Pertim Viser. Yes. Thank you. That motion passes. Thank you all. Okay. Keep going. That takes us to item 11B and this is about the master fee schedule. Uh amending amendments to the master's fee schedule. Tori is going to handle that one.

Tori is still with us. Our finance director, Tori Hannah, is on Zoom. Thank you, Tori. Welcome back.

Thank you. And the item is considering the resolution amending the city's master fee schedule. And this fee, these fees would be applicable to fiscal year 2627. Next slide. So to provide some background, the city um undertook a comprehensive fee study. This was presented to the city council on July 2nd, 2024. And these fees were were passed by the council and implemented. The study itself identified the full cost of providing services including overhead. And the study is important because it establishes the maximum amount that user fees can be established for benefits to individuals and groups. So if you look at the chart below, you can see global community benefit thinking of police services, fire suppression, just basic parks maintenance and street maintenance that just impacts that impacts everyone in the community. But then there are some um fees such as recreation and cultural services and perhaps fire prevention inspections that it that benefit the community, but they also benefit individuals. And there are truly fees that just that just benefit an individual or group such as building permits and engineering reviews. And so part of the study is to assist with cost recovery ef efforts to minimize the use of tax dollars to subsidize the services that are provided to individuals or groups. Um that way they are paying truly for the service that benefits them rather than asking the taxpayers to pay for them. The city targets comprehensive fee studies every five years. Uh next slide.

So on interim years um there's discussion at the last count at the last fee study um was what do we do on the years when there is not a fee study? If we're doing fee studies every five years, how do we handle the interim years? And we spoke with uh the consultant on the fee study um to talk about different ways to adjust fees on the off years. And that typically is done by looking at an index such as a CPI or looking at salary benefits. Last year we referenced the CPI index for San Francisco Oakland Hayward and the attached fee schedule also uh references that same schedule. This year the proposed in increase for most fees is 2 and a half%. Uh some of the exceptions are fees that are subject to external leg legislation or valuation such as based on the valuation of the building or a deposit which provides for the actual cost of service. For those fees we did not provide an increase on because they would be based on certain external factors. The fees the fees presented to you also include some new amounts uh new fees and the first fee is through community development. It's a reasonable accommodations request and the fair housing law established that persons with disabilities may ask for reasonable accommodation for zoning and building requirements if it will assist them in either obtaining housing or remaining in their unit. Uh the community development director also added this to the municipal code in 2022. The dollar amount associated with this fee is based on the same time and staffing needed for zoning clearance letter. There are also some updates uh for solar solar fees for the single

family residents or what would look residents or what would look at the schedule as SFRS. Um the first fee was something that is more of a correction. Previously some of these fees were combined but they were broke out and this just corrects that that breakout. Um there is a limit that the city can charge for solar plan checks consolidated. The city cannot charge no more than $450. So this fee encompasses staying within that limit. the actual study fee was higher but due to the cap we we are retaining this do this this fee at within that dollar amount. There is also um an additional fee for a solar system combo permit for single family residents over 15 kilowatt hours. Uh a non-s single family resident solar plan check and non-s single family residents photovolactic system plan review. And there were some nominal fees um prov requested by the police department which really reflects the administrative time associated with u issuing a replacement card room badge, a dog license tag replacement and processing a repro release of a repossessed vehicle. If approved tonight, um advance slide, please. If approved tonight, these fees would go into effect on July 1st, 2026 to align with the budget. Staff is recommending adopting the new and adjusted fees and also all fees were publicly noticed and placed on the city website prior to this meeting. Thank you.

Thank you very much, Tori. We'll go to the public now. Public comments is open. I see Miss Lisa. Welcome.

Hello. I'm speaking tonight as a citizen of Marina. What I'm asking is for reconsideration of the fee raise for the senior center. And here's why. As a resident of Marina, I paid $30 last year, not the $35 stated on the left side of the um page 15, I believe it is. Um I mention this because our senior fees were not raised at a 2.5% increase the previous time either. I previously paid $20 as a senior resident and that went up to $30. I am now looking at next year going up to $36. Tack on the $3 fee I'm required to pay when I use civic wreck to pay and I'm looking at $39. This is as this is as a resident. So from $20 to $30 to $39 are what my past three years would be or prehos 2 years plus this one. And that's nowhere near a 2.5% increase as stated in the top of the spreadsheet and what Tori just briefed. And it appears only the seniors are being impacted in this way. Our fixed income seniors already had a big fee hike last year. Asking them for a similar a similar price hike again this summer is not okay. And I know pretty much every senior in our programming and I know who can and cannot pay that high of an increase. I ask that you look and reconsider enacting another large fee hike for our seniors. As a side note, it is my birthday in May. It makes me old enough and eligible to go to the senior center in Seaside. With their basic programming, I get to do the same thing I do here for free. Now, the reason I know this is because a lot of my friends go to both, but I'm not old enough to go to one over there, and so I'm waiting. But I still am not asking to pay or to be um a member in Marina for free. I am asking that you look at the senior fees more closely before approving them this year or for this next year because we

are increasing more than 2.5%. My second ask is about prorating the fees. Another item I'd like you to look at is a payment schedule. Seniors pay once a year in July. If you join in April or May, there is no sliding fee. You pay a full price in May and again the full price the full amount again in July. Marina uses a computer program taking care of the programming fees for recreation called civic wreck. Coming from a computer program background, it shouldn't be hard for the program to allow seniors a sliding fee when they're coming in a few months before the next annual membership is due. For example, we had four new students in our ukulele class yesterday. as one is a non-resident. I'll remind you our East Garrison families pay the non-resident fees. Our non-resident is being asked to pay $59 including the the fee um for April, May, and June, then re-up again in July at $59. She may choose to wait until July to join our programming. That's 2 and 1/2 months where she will be missing out on that sliding where a sliding fee could fix this problem. Is this meeting our marina's recreation goals for giving our seniors quality life um opportunities? Please, I know I tried your message. Yeah. No, thank you very much for speaking. Thank you.

Anyone else in the room or on Zoom? Seeing none, we close public comments. Thank you very much. Um pencil, any questions, remarks? Council member Miy. Thank you, Mayor Prom. Um, so I want to start by just clarifying essentially every item in here except for the new items are are a set percentage increase or am I misunderstanding? That's a misunderstanding. I think that's a Tori can answer that.

Uh, some of the fees have not been increased. um those that are are are like fees imposed for example by the state or those that are um for instance they might be deposits. So those fees as well as those that are based on a building valuation have not been increased because the underlying for building valuation would increase itself. So then the fee would follow that and if it's imposed by the state we we don't have the authority to change that. So there are some fees that have not been increased but primarily it is those we did not have any of the directors say let's hold a fee constant this year.

And then with regards to the senior use um that how much did that increase from last year based on also taking in account maybe what you heard from the member of the public. I would have to look. I I show it as 35. There was some confusion in recreation last year. Um what we found out is when we circulated the fee schedule that something was not updated in the system in the prior year, which they did not charge the higher fee. I can't recall if that was for the senior fees exactly. I need to check in with um the recreation staff. So that may be part of it. It was supposed to go up to 35 and there is a processing fee for registration associated with with charges which is outside of that if you choose to use um if you choose to use a credit card.

Okay. Two two more quick questions and a comment that that fee that you just mentioned that's an annual fee the the senior Okay. Um and then what is the community development reasonable accommodations request? I would want to defer to our community development director for more details. I I provide just a brief overview, but he can provide more insight. He's stepped out, so I'm looking to city manager Long if you know. Um, can you ask a question again?

On this slide, it says new fee community development reasonable accommodation request. And let me just say what it sounds like is some kind of disability thing, which is obviously very sensitive. So, I'd be interested in learning what that is. I'm surprised we would charge a fee for that at all. Um, I think yeah, we we want the discretion on those things like that to be able to do that. um even if some aren't directly trying to think of a politically correct way to to say that um maybe we can wait for the community development if if that's

and I can share with you what what what information he's provided but it's not much more than I believe that I mentioned earlier but there is an amendment to the zoning code that provides for a procedure to request reasonable accommodations um under the fair housing law in the application of zoning laws, building codes and land use um regulations, policy and procedures. And so this fee would be to support that procedure.

Okay. Um, community development director Guido, there was a question just and and we heard kind of an answer from finance director, but this new fee. It says community development reasonable accommodation request. Are you able to describe what that is?

Uh, so every city I work for, I get this reasonable accommodation ordinance adopted. It's a if you're a person who has a disability and you need an exemption from a building or planning requirement, it's a reasonable accommodation under fair housing law. So, if somebody needs to put in a ramp, but they need an extra deck, but that goes into the setback. Somebody can ask for a reasonable accommodation. I try to make it as least costly as possible, especially with persons with disabilities. So, I think we put it at like an hour of staff time. So, it's like a variance, but it's allowed under fair housing law and it helps people stay in their homes, especially with people who have medical or

physical disabilities. That's what it is. Thank you. So, just my two brief comments are that I'd be interested in talking about both the senior fee and the reasonable accommodation fee. seems like those are things that we should not place undue burden and if we made a mistake by not charging the right amount last year seems a little bit unfair to put that pressure on the residents of kind of a two-year increase if you will. Um but I'd love to hear what my colleagues have to say. Thank you, Mayor Corten. Thank you to have a brief comment on that. Yes.

And I I wanted to clarify typically our our recreation fees, they are different from our other fees. the other fees. We go through a very in-depth analysis and we're the fee that we're charging is the exact um cost for that service. And so the 2 and a half% increase um it's a um defensible increase for those fees without having to go through a huge study. Recreation is is very different. Those fees are kind of set on the market and things like that. They are nowhere near um cost recovery. they're they're probably 95% subsidized. Um, just want to give you that background on that

and I think I understand that but it's still a burden on the person paying it subsidized or not. Right. It but but I understand the perspective. Thank you.

I'll change it up. I'll I'll reply right away because I know I as a senior citizen here I thought it was so ridiculously low but of course I can you know for me it's no problem. And um and that's always the the the issue. there are seniors it's no problem you know even the 35 is like or 50 a year you know you can do every day you can go to the senior center so I hope that we can look into a um a subsidized fee or for people having a hardship or anything or not even that they have to prove that they're on a care program I mean I would like I can even donate some I mean we're not talking about large amounts if people can get a uh a $10 discount or something like that I mean what are we talking about. Yes. So, can we look into that with or can staff look into that?

Um, we do a hardship but but without having to prove but or can and I I think we may have hardship things already um in place to address that. Okay. So, yeah, I I still think it's for most people it will not be a problem. It will be hard to make another right. The the dollar amount for this senior is nothing with the budget. So if it's something the council wants to exclude, that's not an issue at all. And and yes, I know seaside is free. Line dancing on Friday is probably still great. So council member Biala,

thank you. I agree completely with what mayor prom said um you know because it is looks like it is uh offered at way below um the cost to provide those services. So, but if there are some hardship cases, I think it would be appropriate. So, um if we did the 2.5% across the board in general, Tori, um what kind of additional money is that with all these different fees? Do you have some kind of estimate?

Um it it would vary. Um because there's not really Yeah. There's not really we don't really know for certain um how much services will be used. Um it it would all be depend some of the larger ones are the planning and building services. Yes.

And those are the ones that would bring in the additional revenues and those fluctuate significantly year-over-year. And sometimes when there are those fees, they may seek outside consultant help. So there might be an offsetting expense in the higher years. So to say in general how much are are we going up it it may be it may be hard to say especially since the bulk of it will come from community development and it does fluctuate year-over-year. Okay. So we're not seeing this as a as as a revenue generator. It's just keeping up with basic rates.

There is some increase associated with it. Um, I would say in general, you know, it's hard to speculate because community developments is the bigger one. You know, you may be going up a 100,000 to 70,000. I mean 6070. It it's it's really dependent on community. I would say the planning and building fees are the biggest driver. Okay. Uh, point of order, Mayor Pro. Yes, because we're nearing uh 10 o'clock. Yeah, that's it. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I was just going to discuss with the city manager and the city attorney. We still have quite a few items to go go till 11:00. Yeah,

I would say at least. But but is there anything that we can switch or um Yes. Let me ask the council like the fireworks presentation if you're okay with that off that would Yes, that would save a lot of time. Okay. Um I think um B is really quick. Um, yeah, the Asian-American garden may take a little bit, but there'll be some public comment, but I think our staff report and the directions is pretty simple on that. Uh, the other ones should be pretty quick. I think we'll try to be u short. How's that?

I don't think I don't think uh B might be quick. I think it might be long. So, I'd like to make a motion right now that we go till 11. We can redo that later. Yes, I'll second. Yes. Anita, can we please get a roll call? Just so discussion on the motion. I'm sorry. Sorry. So, are we were we we're moving the fireworks thing? Yeah, we'll we'll Yes. Yes. We'll move that to the next meeting. We'll And so one, two, three. So, that's four items plus the consent agenda item that was pulled in an hour. No. So, we have we should figure out I think we should be more specific. What are we doing tonight? What are we not doing tonight?

We probably don't have enough time to do that in two minutes. Well, maybe then I move that we go till 1010 until we figure this out. That will only take more time. Is there any I can or move to the end and then we'll see if they make it before 11. Point of order. We have 60 seconds left. Yes. What about this vision? The ones that we think are shorter. So, we have a point of order. Do we have 60 seconds left? Yes, we need to do a roll call. Yeah, let's just do the roll call and we'll see if we get a 10 to two first

to go to 1010. That was your last. So, someone needs to second it. I'll second. Council member McCarthy. No. Council member McAdams. Hi. Council member Biala. Yes. Mayor Paten Fisher. Yes. Mayor Delgado. Yes. Okay. So, uh, so I can tell you we have people from the Unstoppable group that are here. So, we move that first. Um, yeah, if we could move that first, I think that that would be good.

Um, Yeah. Um, uh, Gar Blumenthal and Kenroy Croft. It's and there's like a time limit on that. I mean, they need Yes, their application is in and it's going to the planning commission April 23rd. And so, we kind of want to get some direction finalized today on this. They're going to the planning commission in two days. Uh through application, yes.

Uh yes, B could be proposal, but we have a consultant here. Um so I think B and E really are at the council's pleasure. It was just giving you anformational update. Most of the information is in the packet.

So I propose that we um change the calendar. We'll finish of course what we're doing now the fee schedule and then for the um other action items we'll take 13D first the unstoppable and then do the um probably just in order just go from B C and E and the consent agenda item and I um motion that we'll go until 11. Didn't you say that you could take? Oh yeah, we'll skip 13A. Sorry. Yeah,

13. Second that just Yeah. Okay. Okay. Anita, can we please discussion on the motion? Thank you, Council Member McCarthy. I mean, so are we saying that the the city facilities bond is less important than the other items in case we don't get to that because it it's already late and I just have to remind people that this disenfranchised the public. Wait a minute. I'm, you know, I this week am a single dog dad as my partner is in military duty. I've got to get home to my dog child. As ridiculous as that may sound to some people, it's late.

Yes, I don't appreciate going until after 10 at night, and I know the public doesn't either. We have got to do better. I say this every time, and I will say it again. We have got to do better. I agree. Yeah. So, um, would you do you have a proposal to switch things? I mean, I guess I would ask the council. To me, I mean, they're both incredibly important issues. If we don't get to E, what does that mean? I mean, for for the timeline of the ballot initiative, does that hurt us?

All that we were really covering the E was was to make public where we are starting our site three site tours, inviting the public to be part of that and putting out there these two community workshops that we're going to go into detail of all the information about the facilities. We were not going to go into any detail about UUT or anything, but really just to put out these are the dates really encouraging people to come for the site visits and the two community workshops. Okay. So, I'll make a substitute motion that we go till 11 p.m. if I can get a second and then we can go from there. I mean, not a hard stop, but that's I second. No more discussion. Okay. From here, I need a roll call, please. Council member McCarthy. Yes.

Council member McAdams. Hi. Council member Biala. Yes. Mayor Pertam Disher. Yes. Mayor Delgado. Yes. Okay. Now we'll continue with item 11B, the master fee schedule. Out of I think I was speaking. I was speaking. Okay. Okay. Council member Bava. Yes. Just uh real quick here. Um uh so in the early discussions, the STR violation supposedly was on the master list. I don't see it anywhere. I just see short-term vacation permits and I see the numbers there. But is there is there was there something about violations, the fines or something? It's in there.

Where where was it? So earlier it is in there. I can promise you it's in there. Okay. Yeah. Short uh short term page. So page. Okay. It's on top of a page um six. Page six on top of page six. That's for the short-term rental permit. Oh, you were asking for the I have tree removal on page. Oh, which I see on top on the top of page. It's not number five. It says short-term. Yeah, your rental permit, but it doesn't say anything about fines or anything.

On page six, code enforcement fines. Yes. $106 up to $1,000 depends on how many per violations per day. Yeah, I know. I've seen it.

Page six under community development S-059. Oh yeah, here here forces per day six day six.

So anyway, so there are daily fines. Um okay, daily fines. Council member Ba here it's highlighted. Yeah, that's all I have. Thank you. Okay. Yeah. Six by six. Okay. The daily finds which would you like me to go be while you're looking that up? Council member done. Thank you. Oh, okay. Thank you. Council member Marti. No. Okay. No. Okay. Then I had a few questions. I'll try to be brief. I I'm sorry I didn't have time to send them in. Is it working?

Oh. Oh, sorry. Now it's on. Yes. Yes. Okay. Shall I quickly go? I I typed them out. I'll be fast. Uh page five, airport services. This is for the city manager probably. Uh the airport services hangar the rent is 300 or 350 per month and that's not increased. Why not? And how long has it been at this level? Uh I don't believe AJ is on now. Um I was just wondering because everything goes up except for the the rent of the hand guards at the airport. So and that seems pretty low.

Yeah. So those are based on a rent study and FAA has impacts on that. We just can't automatically increase those. Although our maintenance costs go up because I just in general I was very happy to see that we finally now can increase with a with an index which I asked a few years ago and at that point you said no we cannot. I'm very happy to see that. Yeah. But they're a little bit different but we are going to be doing updating our rent study. Okay.

Yeah. I'm interested to see that. Okay. Uh, page nine, the fire false alarm response. The fee for the second alarm is missing. Uh, there's only one third and then blah blah blah. Um, this is a question for the police for Chief Hopkins. Um, page 11, police firearm storage. So, does the police store firearms for residents? This is just an I'm probably not the only resident who doesn't know. Do we offer this service? $311 per case. Is that an annual fee? Oh, you don't know. No, we don't store anything for any citizens. So, if you don't know, who knows? Okay, we have a fee for that.

Is that page 11? Police firearms storage. Let's see. Let me look. $311 per case. What? What's the S number? What number? Oh, that I don't know. Page 11. We'd have to bring our thick guide that that goes into detail. That would I was no I was just wondering if people don't know that service only the only thing I can think of if we confiscate a weapon or something and we have it in storage and they don't come and claim it then we'll charge them a fee over time. That's the only thing I can think of. It's not like we have a service for residents that they can use our Okay. Because I was wondering about that.

Don't bring your Thank you. Um and then also for the police page 12 the new police arm regist police fire alarm probably registration $27 permits. Um are registers are residents required to res to register their home alarm for the alarms? Yes. And if so, how are they informed? And is there no longer an annual fee for that? I know there was confusion on the under homeowners.

The alarm policy is posted on our website. There's a a fee that you have to uh register with the department. That's how they are able to assess you a fee if there's a false alarm. and second occurrence and so forth. That's pretty much spelled out. And they have to redo that every year. Yes. Because I only saw for a new permit, but I might have overlooked it. Okay. I think it's very important to inform residents because on social media there was some confusion about that. Yes. And it only went up $1. Yes. Yeah. That's uh And on page 12, um RV overnight parking permits, $22 permit. I thought we had a ordinance that we do not allow any RV parking.

I agree. I think this was just kind of left in there uh and not removed. Okay. But yes, you're correct. We have an ordinance prohibiting that. Page 14, public works. Um the shopping cart containment plan review $226 per application. Is this for new businesses that have shopping carts? And what is the status of our um update of that ordinance? I know that was pulled at one. Uh we're going to be taking that to council probably in May or June. Um the draft ordinance has that app the big retail vendors um will give us their containment plan and then we'll review it. So that that's what that you know charge is.

Thank you. I will come back. And the last question is just in general page 22. Who is Wendy Hill? Anyway, that's what you get when you let other people do this. Okay. It was for Wendy Hopart. Uh, Council Member McAdams. Uh, I'm happy to move for approval. There we go. I need a roll call, please. I have my hand up. Oh, I'm so sorry. I forgot our mayor. I'm just Okay. Mayor is always the last.

All right. Um, you mentioned at least one item that seemed out of place. Do you have any additions to the motion that are specifics, man? Such as uh the uh RV storage. You want to delete that as part of the motion? Yeah. Do we need to put it in the motion or can Yeah. Is it better? No, I I think we need to direction for staff to Yeah. Because we we did the major update and which explained all the details. We went in into detail last year went through all those and we were all comfortable at that time and so I would be hesitate to delete anything without Yes. really

and usually uh just to explain usually I I send those questions in advance to staff and I don't even bring it up during the meeting but I had a an Earth day to to attend. So that's so I'm fine not having it in the motion Mr. Mayor.

Okay that's fine. Uh my other uh comment regards Lisa Reich's comment about senior fees going up a dollar, but actually it feels like a lot more impact because they've been up they've been up increased more recently. It's peanuts to our budget. I think we want to send out the message that we encourage senior mental health and participation and purpose in life. And so I wondered if we could make a friendly a m amendment to uh increase that to whatever it is two and a half percent over the last few years instead of what Lisa described was a much higher percentage increase over the last couple years. So, if council's willing to consider that, I think that would be really good to send that message back to the seniors that one of your local representatives spoke for you and we heard you. We don't want to we don't want to make you pay more for senior participation. Uh, but I do agree with you what you said earlier, Elizabeth, that a lot of seniors like me, we can afford that, but I think we're really thinking about the seniors who are struggling more than you and I. I would rather see the um hardship program expanded for those people.

Right. So that would be a that would be a friendly amendment to the motion that the senior program uh apply careike standards to their fees. But that when you do that and you think about the teen and the youth center, sometimes grandmas are paying that and they might be care. So it's, you know, who's running the teens, who's who's caregiving for the teens. It's not always uh a younger parent who can afford it. So it does open up some equity issues. Thank you. Thank you.

Um so thanks to the mayor. I what I forgot to mention um the speaker also asked about a a sliding skill and a proportionate skill because it is true now you have to pay the full amount even if you sign up in in just before July 1st you have to pay for the full year I think that will make sense to look into making that proed or per month or at least for the I don't think we're here to like redesign the that's true the like we're here to approve approve the fee schedule. That's it. If we're going to fight over a dollar, that's ridiculous. Well, this is more um

if if somebody is needing financial support, there's the playhip. There's the they can get all of their fees for free if they're income qualified. Like, I don't want to get into this like care program and that like no, that's not what we're here to do tonight. But I how can we ask staff or how can we build in a motion that we ask staff to look into that for a future meeting to come back to it? We already have a program for for scholarships to take care of any recreation fee but we don't have a sliding we don't have a pro prated fee. It's the full fee that you pay on July 1st.

It's $35 for a whole year. For many people, if you if you have to pay on July or on June 15, people are not signing up. They're waiting for July first. So, they're missing out on activities that they could be doing. So, that makes more sense.

And it's not our responsibility to be like making sure people are managing their calendars well, like you know when to sign up. You sign up for the teen center. You sign up for the youth the afterchool program and you sign up for the senior like it's if you sign up for it and you do it all the time you know exactly when to sign up. So, my recommendation, Mayor Prom, would be um that we proceed with the fee schedule, but we do ask staff, and I think it's a great first project for our new recreation director to kind of reach out to the community, see what makes sense, and come back to us. You know, we'll do this again next year.

Yes, it turns out being a senior is a lot like being a teenager. I know there were years where I didn't get life-saving medicine because $13, not life-saving, I'm sorry, but um it's late, but very important medicine because $13 was a lot of money for me. Um, so for that reason, I mean, just to make things easy, I would I would recommend that we just move forward with the fee schedule. I would like to make one other point if I may. Yes, you may.

I'm looking at the reasonable accommodations request. It's not $1, it's $221. And so, I would like to make a friendly amendment that we keep that at zero for this year until next year. And the reason is because our city is not conducive to uh accessibility. I had somebody come up to me at Earth Day this weekend and said, I'm interested in running for city council. How am I supposed to get up the steps to the city council chambers? Guess what? Good luck. You know, we'll push you up. So, it's a little bit personal for me, but this is not the time to be raising and adding barriers to our disabled community. So, I feel very strongly that that needs to stay at zero at least until next year. And we can have a better articulation of why that's going up 221%. So, that's an friendly amendment to the motion.

Yes, a very passionate one. And the second or second hold I think I was the one. I don't and uh council member McAdams you have more. No. Council member Ba. Yes. Okay. Okay. You didn't have more. So we can get a roll call, please. Council member McCarthy. Yes. Council member McAdams. Hi. Council member Viala. Yes. Mayor Vertim Fischer. Yes. Mayor Delgado. Yes.

Thank you. That motion passes. That takes us to item 13. Oh, what did we say? 13D. We were going to the Derek there. So, we'll we'll move it around. Madam, Madam Vice Mayor, can I um we do have the Marina Station applicant online. I just want to confirm you're not getting to that consent item. You're pushing that off two weeks. I just until the end. Yeah. We should um I just I just want to be able to tell them. We should to do that. Shall we do that first now? It's Yes. take the take the consent agenda item first. Hopefully, it will not take too long. It's your discretion. I just want to be able to tell them to stay on or not.

And that will be 13F and that's for the consent agenda 10F2 the Delmonte Boulevard vacation. So, by by council member

Yeah. So, very briefly the the request from council member McCarthy was what can we do to beautify the roundabout and whatnot? And so, uh, once again, the request is if the council can approve the summary vacation and we can either bring back the conceptual look of it or take it to the public works commission or or something, but just um just out of respect for the council agenda, I'm just wanting to know if we should tell them to wait two weeks or keep on the uh meeting right now. So, no, we can take that now. So, council member McCarthy, you've pulled its

Yes. I mean, my recommendation is is that we table it for two weeks. And I know that that's an inconvenience for the developer. Um, but I I would have never in my wildest dreams thought that what we decide tonight would prevent us from having some design input, um, some legally binding design input. And so, that's very problematic for me. I hear more about that roundabout up by Windy Hill Park than I hear about just about anything else. and in fact even spoke to spoke to the developers team and I think that there was some confusion there about what was required and what the city was requiring. We just can't afford to repeat that especially on our main thoroughfare. So we've got to get that right in my opinion but it's not up to me. I'm just one out of five. Our city attorney would like to speak. Yeah, just just briefly. I'm not sure that whether you go forward one way or the the other with this would require that the roundabout um be come before council or the design for that. Is that what is that right? I'm I'm trying to help the applicant by also helping the council by saying if the council can just vote on the summary vacation and then we can do aformational update of how the roundabout will look or we can have it go to the public course commission or you can direct staff to not approve anything until there's some meet and confer with the applicant. However, we can meet the council's directives and the applicant. So,

so I mean I think the only paradigm I could see myself voting for it is if we condition a solid condition that it comes back to council but maybe it skips I mean if it's really an urgency thing it I would would probably unfortunately have to skip the commissions just because that adds another three or four weeks um just have it come straight back to the council to the design for design if we have the time I'd prefer it go to the commissions but if we don't um and the applicant has raised their hand so if you have Michael Katy Yeah. Okay. Mr. Katie,

Mr. Katie, can you tell us how important it is for you to do, Mr. Katie? Hello. Hello. Yes. Hello, everybody. Welcome. I I've been here for four hours. Um

so just to to clarify I think council member McCarthy's concern. So I I want to make the distinction between roundabouts. What is at Deorest Road is a mini roundabout that is meant to be mountable. What's going in in Delonti? Two of them are actually going into Delmonte. Very much larger. They're fully landscaped. They're seen as entry monuments to the to the city to our project. Um the landscape plans will be submitted as part of the plan check process and that landscape plans are going to have to be approved before we get a permit to construct them. The item before you tonight is simply implementation of a condition of approval that's shown on the besting senator map and one of our conditions approval to do that. The reason we're anxious to do that because it has a governmental process associated with it after you approve it tonight. It still needs to go to the state of California which I think Rene has outlined in the report and we'd like to move that process forward because it's it's got a process that has a tail end to it. Um, I think we're I think you're concerned about losing leverage over us to make sure that the roundabouts are beautiful, which they're going to be. Um, I don't think you lose that because again, the landscape plans are going to be part of the plan check process. We're more than happy to meet with anybody, the council members to show them. I can tell you there's a there's a demand for our own selfish purposes to make sure that they're they are beautiful and represent our project in the city properly. So, I understand the concern far different than I think what is what is happening on the forest. Um, and I I think we can make you happy before we get the permission to move forward with actual construction of them tonight, but I would like to bifrocate the vacation process because that is a process that still goes to the state after you

approve it tonight. So that's thank you for that, Council Member McCarti. But yeah, I mean my perspective stays I'm I'm okay with doing that and and moving that piece forward, but it must be conditioned on approval of design uh at some level with the city. Um I just cannot take that risk. Again, I've heard more about that traffic circle up in Windy Hill Park than just about any other issue. Um, even although you know now that that's a mini roundabout and this will be a a regular size.

Yes. And I also know that that one was approved. It was going to be beautiful and it was going to be the thing and it was going to be this and that and it's no pro, you know. So yes. Yeah, I get that. But um, fool me once, you know, and and these developers are great. I've had interactions with them, but and I'm not suggesting that they have fooled us. I'm suggesting the process has failed us. Um, and you know, I have questions. Is is it going to be round irrigated? Right? Is it going to be this and that? I mean, there's some basic questions that I think the council deserves to know and that our residents expect us to understand before we approve this. Would you like to make a motion?

I sure would move that we approve the vacation on my agenda in front of me. One second. So, it was 10 FT2. Uh, I don't still don't have it. Approve 10 F2 as um stated in the staff report. um with the condition that final design of that roundabout comes for city council approval. I will second. Any comments, questions? Oh, Mayor Mayor Dogado,

I just want to check with the city attorney that uh this motion allows the developer to go forward to the state or does it hold them up? Uh, no. It would allow them to go forward. Yeah. And could I see clarity, too? So, we're vacating this property to the developer, but then is it the whole thing going to come back to us at some point? I mean, will it be a public street? No, no, no. that did you see the map in the You're talking about the the little part of the what we're vacating.

Um but the but the roundabout will be will be will be a public street that'll be accepted. So how would we not have design control naturally over that? That makes no sense. We've always had design authority over those kind of things. So, correct me if I'm wrong. Correct me if I'm wrong, Lane, but we're vacating a part of the property so they can build the roundabout. Um, they'll build the roundabout, public works will inspect it, and once it's up to our specifications, they will then give it back to the city and we will formally accept it. So, we've never lost control of the right of way. Is that is that a correct?

Yeah, correct. Um, you attempt to answer your question. Um, I'm trying to think are our we haven't done a lot of roundabouts. um like the ones on on um reservation that was so long ago. Don't remember those designs came back to council. But there's no there's not a problem. The council wants to review those designs. That's fine.

Okay. I mean, I would anytime anybody's designing anything on my property or the property that I represent for the city, um, I'd like to make sure that we're there's some, you know, some oversight and appropriate public process.

But then you would like to like it to come to the city when it's at 30% or so because otherwise we we'll be told this is it now? No, I think final design should come to the to the city council and that that's kind of what we did with MGEN when we um developed the the artwork and and those things. Once we had that developed, we brought that back to the council um and make sure that made sure that council was was liked what we were developed with that. And so it it would be kind of that same type process. Lane, what what role does the planning commission have on all of this? I I it's like I don't I'm not relishing, you know, looking at the landscaping for a strip of land. I mean, I typically planning commission wouldn't look at this. So, this is not so not something normally council would even for the formal

roundabout you would. Yes. I'm sorry. you the roundabout you would the planning commissions usually don't look at the right of way but the design your staff will look at it uh Ishmail and yeah yeah the planners yeah is there is there no part to that that if a council person wish to be a part of that they can do that without it necessarily coming back to the council uh you know we're talking about streamlin processes and I I I just it's really up to the city manager if they want to form We we understand there's issue with the Windy Hill roundabout there and so if council wants design to come back not a problem.

Okay. My second holes and um Mr. Katie I see your house uh hand raised or was it still from your did you forget to lower it or we forgot to lower it or would you like to speak? No. No. Okay. No. Okay then. Um no more comments. Anita, can we please get a roll call? Council member McAdams. Hi. Council member McCarthy. Yes. Council member Biala. Yes. Mayor Perm Fischer. Yes. Mayor Delgado. Did we close public comment? Uh, open and close. Yes. I mean, my vote would be this was consent agenda. So, we already did the public comment. Okay. Thank you. Yes.

Yes or no? It doesn't see us. It does it. Okay. Okay, that takes us now to item 13D and this is the um approving approving an amendment to the sales tax revenue sharing agreement between the city and unstoppable automotive uh also known as Mercedes-Benz city manager we have here.

Thank you. So, what is in the packet is the um existing agreement that council approved last year with the unstoppable group. Um and next slide. Uh the only two changes minor changes that were proposing on the agreement is the original agreement had the complete or the commencement of construction had to be on January 1st 2026 as we explained in the packet due to a lot of factors approval from Mercedes-Benz USA the economy tariffs other things that got delayed but they are back on track and um Uh and actually what's in the packet it is September 10th not September should be September 10th not September 1st.

So that that isn't

so yeah it's just a mistake there but it's September 10th will be their commencement date. Um they've Guido's talked with them already with their architect and we think they're they'll be in under construction before that. The other part was a change where it gave gave them 15 months um to complete it. They requested 18 so that I absolutely will not have to come back to council again. This puts it to um March of 2028. they have to be out of their previous um location in Monterey and so we don't think there's going to be any issue with that.

So hopefully it will be done sooner. This is the correct worst case scenario.

Next slide. As we showed the the packet um uh nothing else has changed from the original agreement. Um and this it's important because we we don't want to have to start back and do the whole processes given do new financial analysis. So all these numbers are the same. What this shows this is the econ the sales tax benefit that will come to the city based on that going in. It shows the first year is 882,000 and it shows every year for the next seven years. The total benefit to the city is 11 million. The only part that we are sharing in this sales tax base is the 1% um the measure N the gross tax receipts the VLF um that is all coming directly to um the city. Uh, next slide. And this just shows the first column, the the sales tax um uh sharing agreement that is coming back to them. And the total amount. What the agreement says is um they get 5 million. They estimate it will they'll hit that in year seven and nothing has changed from the previous agreement. That concludes. Thank you. We'll open it up to for public comments. Anybody in the room or on Zoom who would like to speak on this item? Seeing none, we'll Oh, what is that? It's Bruce. Okay. Seeing no members of the public. So, we'll close public comments and council um council member McCarthy.

Thank you, Mayor Prom. So, just for clarity, I staff had mentioned nothing from the original agreement has changed. So all of the provisions such as requiring plan check to come to the city of Marina which was in the original plan it's it's all still there. Yes. Every one of those requirements the the council is still Mercedes Benz of Marina. Bad joke. Yes. Everything council required is still in place. Okay. Council member. No. Okay. Mayor Delgado,

kind of a question for Lane. When we went through the Spring Hill Suites Hotel process, we were had a controversial agreement to defer 600,000 634,000 of impact fees. Um, and then that got raised to a million dollar incentive. Tonight, we're talking about a $5 million incentive. When the Spring Hill Suites could not meet their deadline and asked for an extension, we required them to give us a promisary note worth $100,000. And we did that twice because they couldn't meet their their drop dead date two different times. They never end up getting a penny from us because they didn't open the hotel soon enough. And they paid us $200,000 in promisary notes to get the extensions, which didn't really help them. So here we're talking about five times as much and we're giving them an extension tonight if we approve this. The logic behind the $200,000 promisary knows well 100,000 times two was that because the developer of the hotel was late. We the city were losing sales tax and well hotel tax and so we wanted to make the city whole on the developer's delay. So, we required the hotel developer to give us $100,000 to make us whole. So, I want to ask our city manager, is this a similar situation or is it different this time around with uh Unstoppable Group as compared to the uh Spring Hill Suites?

I think this is this is a little bit different. this is um things that were out of their control um based on getting approvals from Mercedes-Benz USA and some of the economic things. So, I think it was a little bit different.

Okay. But I I think you're saying that the the where they're the same is that the Spring Hill Suites could not meet a deadline and ask for an extension. They had a contractor die on the job. They had delays due to weather from PG& wouldn't inspect their stuff. They had develop they had elevator inspection delays from the state. They were beyond their control and we still required them to pay us to extend their deadlines. Tonight you're saying that there were circumstances beyond the control of Unstoppable Group and therefore they're asking for an extension and we're considering granting it. So are they really different in the most important regard that circumstances beyond their control delaying the project asking for us for an extension? Isn't that true in the Spring Hill Suites hotel situation and this situation tonight?

No, cuz this project hasn't even started. The the Spring Hill Suites was well under construction. They had a several year period to complete it and it was getting to the end end of that construction process. They're asking for those extensions at that point and then again extension again. This one hasn't even started the construction process yet. Okay. So, is it your belief that if Unstoppable Group enters construction and ask for an extension that we we we would consider asking for a promisary note due to the loss of sales tax that we would incur? Uh

yes, s council could certainly do that. All right. Thank you, lady. Thank you. Don't see more questions. Mayor Delgato, would you like to make the motion? I'll motion that we uh approve the amendment to the sales tax revenue share agreement between the city marina and stoppable automotive and um have the city attorney and city manager perform their normal functions on this. I second. Okay, no more comments. Can we please get a roll call? Anita, council member McCarthy. Yes. Council member McAdams.

Yes. Council member Biala. Yes. Mayor Prom Fischer. Yes. Mayor Delgado. Yes. Okay, that motion passes. And that takes us to um 13B um receive anformational updates and presentation regarding the downtown community workshop that was held on March 24th.

Yes, we have Alexis Gillum who is the facilitator of that workshop. She has her presentation to make update on that. Alexis did a fantastic job at that workshop, by the way. Good evening, Alexis. She may not have ability to speak. Oh, no. She She's unmuted now. Good evening, uh, Mayor. Can you hear me? Okay. Yes, we can. Thank you. Welcome.

Wonderful. Thank you so much. And apologies. I don't know how to operate my camera here. Otherwise, you would be able to see my face. Um, but uh thank you so much uh for this evening. Um I'm going to have you navigate back uh for the slides if you can to the purpose and overview of the workshop first. Um thank you, city manager Long. And yes, I uh am a director with Trapy Smith and Associates and had the privilege of facilitating your March 24th community meeting. Uh so just a quick overview, the purpose of that meeting was to uh gather input on the future of downtown Marina, specifically on the reservation road and Delmonte Boulevard corridors and inform the implementation of the downtown specific plan. Um just a recap of of what we had. We had 52 participants not including the consultant, city staff or officials that were present. Uh so a great turnout. Um it was an openhouse to start which allowed for one-on-one conversations with the consultants. Um and then we went into a facilitated breakout session discussion and that was in two breakout uh discussion groups. The first was focused on the community visioning um and more on that experiential element of what downtown could be um as opposed to what maybe the impression or perceptions of what it currently is. Um and the second was very much focused on the infrastructure which you all have talked a lot about tonight. Um and then that was supported by uh your city team um and your consultant team of HDL companies Coats Consulting um Kimley Horn and ourselves at Trapy Smith. Next slide please. So what we heard uh and this is uh again this is the cliffnotes version of your agenda packet. Uh the community vision

for downtown um is a more walkable, welcoming and active downtown was the desire and consensus from the community that was in person and participated in that there was a strong support for local dining and retail community event spaces but with that a desire to maintain Marina's character. Um and what that you know Marina uh for Marina by Marina was very much the sentiment expressed um as part of HDL's uh peer review and economic analysis. Um there was discussion around um vertical density which is currently within the downtown specific plan. What that looks like uh for mixed use for anyone not familiar um more so for the public is when you have that groundf flooror retail and then you add in um housing above uh apartments if you will above that and actually what downtown Marina presents itself is more for the horizontal. So we did pose that question to the groups um they were more in favor of that horizontal uh mixeduse development. However, if there was any vertical an opportunity for vertical, they wanted that limited and confined more so cautiously to one story potentially. So, just wanted to express that those that was the feedback we heard for the visioning part of downtown. Next slide. Uh key decision point was the intersection approach specific on the roundabout versus a signalized intersection at Reservation Road in Delonte. Um there was limited support for roundabouts uh specifically there and a preference towards that signalized intersection approach. Uh concerns that were raised around this and I think that this is uh you know some focused education um but the traffic flow uh

driver confusion and this was uh the experiences that the participants uh in attendance had had uh with uh Marina and roundabouts and that relationship currently. Um and the community also emphasized their support um for phased corridor specific solutions. Um there was um a a large and and I'll let um staff kind of get into that, but a corridor plan of multiple roundabouts and some uh lane reductions and what that could look like that was presented to the group and um just an emphasis on that that be phased and attainable as it rolled out. So that was um that feedback on specific on that intersection. Next slide. overall core priority and consensus was safety first. Um so that key takeaway there at the bottom just want to overemphasize that um that regardless of what design were to move forward so whether signalized whether roundabout whatever that complete street features um that pedestrian and bicyclist safety was top of mind for any infrastructure improvements to move forward. And what that looks like was, you know, safer crossings, uh, wider sidewalks, uh, bike infrastructure, um, and and slower traffic. Uh, next slide. And so, just to conclude, you know, moving forward, what we heard on that implementation side is the the strong desire to see uh, something happen uh, in the near term. um that was uh voiced uh throughout I would say the workshop um but wanting to see something take place sooner rather than later and that there was a support for lowerc cost visible improvements first so if if that looked like landscaping or complete

street features that could be added in the short term that that still contributed to long-term goals uh that was the request and desire from the participants uh larger projects um can follow as funding becomes available. There was the opportunities for grant funding that was discussed towards the end of the workshop and so that was understood by the participants. So wanting to see what could be prioritized as we pursue those larger grants for larger infrastructure projects. And I think just overarchingly and and this was summarized in the conclusion as part of your agenda packet report is that the workshop reinforced a clear direction from your community that future improvements to reservation road and Delmonte Boulevard corridors again would prioritize the safety, walkability, and overall quality of experience um but while remaining with Marina's character. Um, so next steps, uh, we would recommend and we're we're working with your city team to validate this input and the sentiments and overall feedback expressed through a community feedback forum that we will be launching in the next couple of days. Um, it expands on what we heard from the community, but wanting to make sure that, you know, we it was 52 inerson participants. We want to give the broader Marina community a chance to participate and get their voices heard. um refining those options and priorities um and bringing that back to you as the city council with recommendations and that feedback and in a report for you to be able to digest and talk through with your staff. And I want to uh give it back to the city manager um to add some additional comments here with the next steps.

Thank you very much, Alexis. Oh, thank you very much, Alexis.

Thank you. And just a a brief couple comments I wanted to to make and this really is um uh we got a lot of feedback and as Lexus said this uh community feedback form really is important and once we have all all that information we want to bring it back and schedule a future meeting with council where we can go through that information in detail. There's a couple key points. One is the intersection of Delmani and reservation. And when we bring this back, we really are um going to be requesting some direction for council for that intersection just because we have a grant fund for that and we need to be making some decisions right away on that. We know that the reservation quarter, we're going to have to have a lot more discussions with the council and the community on that reservation quarter. Again, we got a lot of a lot of good feedback. Um, definitely got some push back on the roundabouts. Our presentation was scheduled, so we didn't have a lot of time to go into detail about the pedestrian and bicycling safety aspects of the roundabouts and these other designs. And so, when we come back to council, we're going to uh spend a lot more time. will have those actual simulations, the um all the the reports and a much more in-depth presentation on that. And so that is our that is our plan. um uh is have this and hopefully bring it back back to council in May, one of our May uh council meetings so we can at least make a decision on that Delmani reservation because that is really driving our what council has already approved on Delmani Boulevard and um we are um Edri and Ishmamail um and Frederick there are already putting in

uh for transportation grant for Delmani Boulevard for uh putting in the roundabouts there. We think we have a good shot um at getting those those grant funds for that. And so we also that's another reason why we want to get that intersection done money decided very quickly probably at the next time we bring it to the council.

Thank you very much Mr. Long. Uh we'll open it up to the public. Anybody in the room who would like to speak about this item? Anybody on Zoom, please raise your Zoom hand if you would like to speak. Denise Turley, welcome back, Denise. Hello. So, I have a little bit of uh confusion. If we're talking about um the Delmani corridor, how what's the connection between that and the for tag trail and preserving uh Sand Gillia? Um is that all going to fit in that area? Is that going to significantly affect the plans that you're having for Delmani Bulletard because the two other problems came up last time? That is my question. Thank you.

Thank you for your question. Is there anybody else who would like to speak on this item? Seeing nobody anymore, I'll we'll close public comments. Um the question from Denise Turley I think our city manager can answer that. Totally different issue. Yes. Okay. Council, any questions, remarks? Council member McCarthy,

I've gotten to go first many times. Senator, I'm excited about that. Thank you, Mayor Prom. Um quick comment. uh the facilitator at the meeting, I just want to call out uh there was a point when a member in attendance kind of spoke passionately, was obviously very upset about some things and this the struggle of I think it was a struggle of navigating roundabouts um at her age, but I might have that wrong. But either way, the facilitator really touchingly kind of made some comments that said, "I understand that was a hard comment to make in a room full of people that may not agree with you um and appreciate you making them and I know your your elected representatives appreciate you making them as well." So, I just kind of wanted to call that out and thank um Alexis

Alexis um for being there and for participating in that way. Um and then my only other comment is that I this was tough. I mean, we we're kind of getting comments all over the place. You know, we've got some hard decisions to make. Um, but one thing that resonated with me was the desire to to do some things that had a visual impact almost immediately. Um, and so I would hope that that's an area where the council can really focus on um and kind of move the needle in one direction either way. So, thank you, Mayor Bum. Thank you, Council Member Viala.

Mr. May, Miss Mayor, um, good. So, with the push back on um roundabouts, um it was my understanding that the consultants really were uh were really recommending that we have more roundabouts on Reservation Road. Is that not correct? This this traffic study that we have?

Yeah, that that's correct. Kimley Horn. Um uh that that was their recommendation. Partly is based on with roundabouts were able to narrow some of those lanes and put in those dedicated um bike lanes that are extremely safe that we don't have and and put in the wider sidewalks and the gathering areas and all those things. Uh that gives us the capability to do that. Okay. So at this workshops um do they did they give all that information all the I mean no we we were covering so much that we didn't have uh okay

we didn't have the time to do it so when we come back to council we're going to spend much more time

okay well I guess it's it's kind of sad because you know we we hire experts who who know their business who know the these technical aspects and what happened. It sound like here the the the the opinions without that information sort of became the the drum beat so to speak. So now we don't like roundabouts. And so I it's pretty sad that that happened actually because you know I I think they need to hear the facts and hear the need needs of study and then speak about their opinions about roundabouts. And you know, I don't know if if there are other alternatives to roundabouts, like is there a way to to alternate lights and roundabouts rather than to have all roundabouts? I don't know about I'd heard about AI sort of um regulated traffic stop traffic sign lights and stuff like that. So, I don't know if there are some other, you know, alternatives to this, but but for people to make the the more collective decision that they don't want roundabouts just seems so premature to me and I'm really sad that that happened. Um, so I don't know how you correct it and go back and undo people's, you know, opinions once, you know, a group has established that kind of mentality. So, but anyway, we're going to bring it back and I think I'm hoping that um you know there can be modulation of of their opinions once they hear sort of the expert um testimony on that. The other thing is that um you know all of these summaries here in the staff report, one a walkable people focused downtown. Two, community spaces and cultural experiences. Three, support for quality local businesses. These are all the visions of what we

would any of us would love our downtown to happen. And the reality is that it's all owned by private property owners. We cannot do no matter how much we wish to see quality restaurants or you know reducing the dominance of large parking lots or uh see spaces for community events, farmer markets and festivals. It is all owned by private property owners. So this is also kind of I feel like it's our wish list but we don't have any control over it. We have control over the medians and the and the the public right of way and uh if traffic flow etc. But we can't wish for these things. it may take 50 to a hundred years before we even get rid of our strip malls. Um because the property owners don't have to change that. So this idea of walkability and and and and bicycle friendly kinds of things, I it's wonderful, but we have no control over that. And as long as people know when they express these visions that we're not falling short for them because we can't make it happen because we don't own it unless the city has huge amounts of money to buy those properties. We can't do it. So I'm I hate to be in a pestic mood. Maybe it's because it's 11:00, but I just want

almost. So I need to interrupt. We're nearing our 11:00. I make a motion that we will finish this item uh not no later than 10 minutes after 11. Part stopped. I'd like to add a friendly amendment that we do the 13A a also. Is that 13? No, I'm sorry. The lock pad and park one

see 13 C. I guess discussion on the motion. I I am um compassionate about how much that means to um especially you Kathy. Um but it's it's an item that's going to take that there's I think a lot of public that wants to participate. It's late. People are more likely to be unfriendly when it's late. I I really think that it deserves to move to another time. And if that means we meet I mean I I'd like to think it can we can have it at the next meeting. Um, but if we need to discuss a special meeting, I'm open to that, too. Like, we can easily fit it into the next meeting. I like that easily. Like,

well, I just want to say that if you confine it to the agenda item, it should not be such a a thing. It's not a public hearing about about the Asian-American Garden. It is it is focused on uh a a request by the regional park district to get a detailed plan. That's what it's about. It's not to discuss what the plan is or uh what what the format of the garden is. It's none of that.

And I understand that. But I'm looking at at least 10 people just online that may want to speak to that. Three minutes each. That's 30 minutes. That's 30 minutes of our comment minimum. That's at least an hourg we're into tomorrow. Yes. You know, and I hate that for us because I know how important it is um actually for all of us quite frankly to be discussing this and and move it forward. But um that's fine. Yeah, I agree. I if I even if just a few people want to speak, we'll be and it's already way later than you want to speak. I think we can maybe we can prioritize it at our next meeting at the beginning despite our normal order. Yes. We can do that

or at least as Yeah. Thank you. So, I made a motion to go uh to finish this item and to have a heart stop at 10 after 11. Anita, can we please Oh, any discussion, Mr. Mayor? No. Okay, good. Roll call, please. Council member McAdams, hi. Council member McCarthy, yes. Council member Biala, yes. Mayor Port Bisher, yes. Mayor Delgado, thank you. Council member, were you finished? Yes. Okay. Thank you, Meredith Ogado.

Thank you. Uh, when it came to the horizontal versus vertical for the last 20, 30 years, we've been hearing urban planners talk about neighborhood design um, and how vertical mixed use is really important if you want to get the downtown that we're all talk about. In Selenus, they've done vertical mixed use in some shopping centers with residential on top fairly recently. But at this workshop, sorry to make this opinion, but we had kind of an old school planner as the expert, he spoke all about horizontal is the way to go. And he said that the reason was construction costs have gone up. making vertical mixed juice unfe infeasible. I think if we had a different expert, they would see it very differently. So I think we have to be really careful before we throw out the idea of urban mixed use vertically. To say horizontal use is the way to go is like going back in time a few decades. So I just want to put that out there. It'd be great to have staff consult with multiple consultants because so far it's just that one. And I was really disappointed to hear that because we've been having so many meetings for decades that you really got to get get people living downtown to make it more lively during the night and more safe with more eyes on the street. And I've lived in places where I live on the second floor of of uh commercial and it was an exciting time in my life. It was like

happening. It was great. Uh and I think that everything we've done for downtown revitalization has been in that direction. And so to use this one workshop because the people didn't even know what horizontal versus vertical. They didn't know the difference until they heard five minutes of a expert saying how bad vertical is and how great horizontal is. And then they asked this the the the public, what do you like, vertical or horizontal? Most of them said horizontal. Uh but it was a very cursory introduction and a real strong opinion from one person how horizontal development, which is what we have downtown, is the way to go. Uh on the roundabout, there were some very strong opinions against roundabouts. One made by a person who is a good cyclist, not just a recreational cyclist, who said, "Man, I I've almost got hit in those MGEN roundabouts, and if the roundabout at Reservation Road is going to be like those, that's unsafe." Later on, the consultant told me that he thinks that that person wasn't using the roundabouts properly because that person said they were sandwiched between the inside of the roundabout and the cars. He said that that the bicyclist should never been on the inside to be pinched against the center of the roundabout between a vehicle and and the hardscape of the inside. I don't know what's right or wrong, but I agree with Cath Council member Biala that when you have the experts at length describe the pros and cons of roundabout safety to pedestrians and cyclists and special needs folks that nationwide there's a lot of research saying that the roundabouts are safer. But maybe I'm wrong. I just know that at that meeting there was no discussion about roundabout design

safety or or danger compared to signalized intersections and so the responses were driven by a few vocal leaders and that's how it is across the country. Uh you get a lot of roundabout uh opposition until they go in and but anyway so that's all I want to say. I appreciate us coming back with more expert input and more public input. Thanks everybody.

Thank you Mr. Mayor. So yeah, and I just wanted to say I wanted to thank everybody who worked on that and the facilitator also for her presentation tonight. I'm so sorry I missed it. I was out of town and I would have loved to be there and um I liked reading the report seeing all the the presentations and um staff is asking for direction and I think the the next steps that are listed in the we just want to be comfortable you're at those next steps we're going to put in this step

we're going to put out that feedback survey once we have that compiled we're going to come back to council with more um specific direction uh we'll provide had a lot more information about that Delmani um reservation roundabout including um what the mayor talked about u the safety aspects um vertical versus horizontal

and yeah we'll bring when they talked about horizontal it was not just only commercial horizontal it was horizontal one to two vertical stories up it was it was referring to the vertical is as the four five six seven stories that um that that that just don't pencil out. And so I think there's a misunderstanding there. They're saying horizontal. It was meaning yes, go up a couple stories residential, but not the really high urban that they just said it's not feasible, which all of our consultants um and the builders agree with that. There's more than just two or seven. Correct. Yes.

But I think there there was definitely some misunderstanding there. They're saying horizontal. They were just think it was just only retail horizontal only. And just to talk about the bicycles, if I'm not mistaken, I know our chief is here. As a bicyclist, you are allowed to bike in the roundabout. I personally would not do it on engine, but you have the choice. You can you can either take the safe way say it the safe um crossings or you are definitely entitled to be in the roundabout but you need to use your uh correct

your your brain in there anyway. So um and that's the same for the what I said earlier tonight. There are separate bike paths but there's also bike lanes on the asphalt. So you as a bicyclist you choose but there are very safe options now on Indian. So, um, would anybody like to make the motion? I'd like a one comment.

Um, and I'd also like to to have some, uh, information for the the public to have an idea of how to how the downtown vitalization specific plan can actually be enacted when there are so many private property owners all along Delmonte and reservation road. I'd like to get is not to as a criticism. It's just to instill some kind of realism to these wonderful statements that people are expecting about our downtown. We could do that please. Thank you.

I and we we we'll certainly go in more detail. I can tell you right now the biggest thing we can do is the streetscape yet that is in our ability to make it and a streetscape will will really start to activate those changes. And so we absolutely can do some things on our end and it will make a big difference. Yes. Okay. Who would like to make a motion? So or more comments? Sure. Well, actually, yeah, I do want to say that um I actually agree with every single word the mayor said. Um that represents my thoughts as well. Um and then the traffic simulations. I know we've talked about it several times. Can we please get those traffic simulations out there for the public to see? I think it's worth Yes. worthwhile.

Thank you. And I'd make a motion to approve uh the recommend next steps. The recommended next steps. Thank you. I'll second. Any comments? No. Anita, can we please have a roll call? Council member McAdams. Hi. Council member McCarthy. Council member Bella? Yes. Mayor Partin Fischer? Yes. Mayor Delgado? Yes. Thank you. That motion passes and it takes us to the adjournment of this meeting with apologies for the very late ending. Very good.

I still have a minute to spare. I'm like Denise too early. I'm giving you a minute. Denise, were you still there to hear that? Okay. I don't know. Thank you all for being here. Yeah. I'll give you a minute back. Thank you.