Finance Committee - Regular Meeting

Alright.

It is 05:30. I will call the finance committee meeting to order. First up is bull call. Everybody is present this evening. Is this Well, we'll just So

alright.

So the first up is roll call. The entire committee is present. Then we'll move on to public comment. Well, we thought there'd be some clunkiness with all the work, so that's okay. So up next is public comment. Is there anybody from the public that wishes to address the finance committee this evening? Second call for public comment. Third and final call for public comment.

Are we on Zoom this evening?

There's nobody on? Okay. When seeing none, will close public comment, then we will move on to the consent agenda. Mhmm. We have a couple items on consent. Is there any item that any member of the committee wishes to have removed from the consent agenda? Seeing none, I would entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda.

So moved. Second.

There's a motion and a second. There's no discussion on consent. So all those in favor? Aye. And opposed? Alright. Consent passes. First up is 26Dash0157, which is a hearing on a denial of a taxicab license application for Jay Hunker Hunkerden? Hunkerden. So, John, if you wanna come up to the table.

Corey, please come up to the table. And then, John, I'm gonna have city clerk Mackenzie Reed swear you in. Hi, John. As I mentioned prior to the meeting starting, this is your opportunity to address the committee this evening. And the committee will have if they have any questions for you, that'll be their opportunity. And then if the city, which is represented by deputy chief Puzel, if he has any questions of the testimony you're giving, he'll have that opportunity as well too. So this is your opportunity.

So I I guess what I'd mean to like to address is there were there were two convictions that I had in my past that were cited in the recommendation. One was, the other was a violation, but no contact order. I've done a lot of things in the last fifteen months or so to change my life and the things that were troubling me at the time that I need. I take full responsibility for my actions, but there were things in my life that were not right. Specifically, I'm a recovering alcoholic.

At the time of those incidents, I was active in my addiction. So, specifically, to those, for the July and my alcoholism, in December 2024, I saw treatment residential ninety days program in at Exodus in Glossum, Wisconsin. We did that program in March and moved to one of their sober living houses also in. After a couple of months at the sober living, I had an opportunity from the house manager for that house. Big responsibilities, but but some.

And I also was given the opportunity to be one of their van drivers taking the people that were in the house to events, recovery events, and so forth. Did that on a regular basis. And there is a letter from my counselor in Exodus. I have enjoyed sobriety since that treatment, so almost fifteen months. And in in November, I made the choice to move to a sober living house here in Manitowoc.

There were some it was a personal issue that I that I was having with one of the residents, and it just became awkward. And I decided to remove myself from that situation. Nothing came of it. No. No. You know, nothing that way, but I just decided to remove that situation. And I came to restoration house here in Manitowoc on 10th Street, another so called living. In about a month ago, I became one of the house leads for that one. Well, similar to the house manager that I had. I take my recovery very seriously.

My recovery program is solid. I live with all the recovering addicts, so I have constant support, things of that nature. As far as the alternate no contact order, that was with my ex wife after our divorce, again, during my active addiction. And I have since especially since my treatment now over the past year plus, have largely repaired the relationship that I have with her. She also wrote a letter to that of fact, the wife got me that John Rickard, the owner of Restoration, where I'm living right now, also wrote a letter to.

And with my ex wife, we didn't avoid a better than average, I guess, ex spouse relationship. I would consider us our friends. We're in contact regularly. Things that happened then would not happen in my current health state. So I guess just in short, I I I believe that I am a changed person for what my record may reflect. That is not me. I am not a lawbreaker. I am a law abiding citizen. I I do not I I do not do that. I'm in my right mind, and I've been sold through.

So I would ask the committee to give me an opportunity here. I about a year ago, the change of rather significant. The reason is my time that I can stand I can stand farther. So being able to drive a cab city is something that I'm looking forward. And I've already been hired, so to speak, by the company, Maritime Cap. She's offered me the position. She's holding the position for me.

Okay. Thank you.

Alright. Thank you, John. Corey, did you have any questions of time?

I didn't. Okay. Then I'll open it up to the committee. Alder Schleich.

Thank you, mister chairman. A lot of times when we have situations like this and I read the information, quite frequently, the items speak more by what's not said as opposed to what's said. First of all, I appreciate your efforts, and I appreciate the letters of support from all of the recovery people. That's a big deal. But two things really stood out to me.

Number one, I've never heard anybody say they're enjoying their sobriety. And I have been involved over the years. I had a few situations with relatives and friends where I was involved in someone's recovery. I have never heard anybody say they're enjoying their sobriety. They say they're fighting to maintain their sobriety, or it's really a task to maintain their sobriety, or and it's always about maintaining their sobriety.

And you use the term enjoying their sobriety, and I applaud you for that, number one. The other thing is, the final letter of support on here is from your ex wife. That speaks volumes without saying a word. That speaks absolute volumes to me, and I intend to deny this denial and approve this license, at least for my part. Thank you. Thank you, mister chairman.

Okay.

Anything else from the committee at this time? Otherwise, I'll we're gonna

go to deputy chief Buzov to hear, from the city.

Oh, I didn't know. I thought he was gonna speak. Didn't know you were gonna speak, chief. Sorry.

So the reason that John was denied was the the ordinance is written that anyone with the record conviction record, it limits me, and I cannot recommend approval. Based on the ordinance and the fact that John had convictions for contact after domestic abuse arrest and for the order UI, I was prohibited by the ordinance from recommending John for approval. So that is the reason that John has. Does anyone have any questions for me at all?

Alder Recklenburg?

It's not so much a question of you. I know I had spoke to you earlier, and you said, yeah, there was some paperwork that you supplied, but it wasn't on It wasn't a he had a memo or something, but it wasn't part of what I was able to see on Granicus. So somebody forgot to load it up or something, but I was looking for that, but I knew I'd get here early enough and hopefully run into them to get my question answered. So but

Yep. Basically, what I send is my recommendation. It's just like an alcohol license denial. So, usually, the CCAP record is there. So what what Yep.

What

you, older skin I have that's that's beyond my knowledge. That's all.

That's it. Okay. I not gonna speak as long as Bill, but I agree with where he's coming from. So

Okay.

Wait. What? Alder. Why? I'm sorry. Alder Dunbar?

Yeah. Was chairman. Thank you. And I'm gonna steal your words kinda what you said when we saw this a few weeks ago. You know, whenever we see these, community outreaches and all that really show support, as a council that is supported trying to get these places in and said, chairman, brought this up last time.

You know, it's means a lot. And, I am inclined to I guess we deny the denial, right, is the way this would work, or buy back him or the exact way it's wrote. I I am siding with giving you the license. But, again, you know, I wanna make sure you you understand that a lot of that is due to you your support from Exodus and all those. So, you know, as we see them recommending people, we send them out to the community to do good.

We see you're doing good, you you stay with it. That's what allows us to continue supporting these supportive programs. And I just wanna show that that's a large reason of why I I plan to try to grant your license or vote that way. So, you know, the the letters are are big, and you being a pillar is is important not only from that, but moving forward to make sure we know that, you know, we can trust when these these organizations are writing these letters. So

And just for clarification, I believe the motion would be to instruct the clerk's office to issue the license.

Yeah. I'm glad I I got a motion.

Yeah. We don't have worry about denying the denial. It's just we issue we we recommend or we instruct the clerk's office to issue the license would be the the motion if if that's what the will of the committee is. So if there's nothing further, I would look for a motion from the committee.

It's all broken.

Mr. Chairman, I recommend approval of the license pursuant to Wisconsin stat one one one point three three five.

I believe that's sufficient. Second. There's a motion and a second. Discussion on the motion. Just a quick one. And, John, I appreciate you coming in tonight. You know, I think it's one thing to fight the addictions with your group and and privately, but to come before a public committee and a public meeting and share your story can be the difficult one. Although our we're not full by any means this evening, but it's still a a it could be a little bit of a, I was gonna say sobering event, but that's not quite the right word that we should be using here. It can be quite a a daunting task at times. So I appreciate you coming in and sharing your story because that's how we learn more about the situations.

And, I will be voting with the affirmative to grant your license this evening. So anything further from the committee? If not, all those in favor?

Aye.

And opposed? Okay. We'll get that written up and signed off on that. But okay. Mackenzie will give you the information.

So for your time and kind words.

Thank you, John. Thank you, John. Chief. Appreciate it.

Then we'll move on to twenty six dash zero one five eight, which is an application of class b retail intoxicating liquor and fermented malt beverage license, for Toriana Tenney LLC at 2204 Washington Street. Looking for a motion from the committee? This is what appears to be the old Tony's

restaurant.

Move to approve. There's a

motion to approve. Is there a second? I'll second. Discussion?

I just have a question. It may not even be relevant or not. In the application, I know a lot of times when you're marking down stuff for, like, LLCs, you need that LLC on there, and nowhere throughout does he write LLC after. So I just wanna make sure that doesn't end up back, you know, doing something weird. Because, technically, what a and Tutorial LLC are separate corporations.

So if we approve it without the LLC name, that is a different core it's it's really weird that it even says when you file for an LLC, you must include LLC on your, like, sales document, all that, and it's not on there. Again, it may be out of scope what we're doing here and all that, but it's just something I wanna make sure it was mentioned because it just what I've recently filed for an LLC, that was something I very much

Yeah.

Like, they make you say a thousand times. I will include the LLC whenever I write my business name and all that.

I know our paperwork cover sheet includes the LLC, Mackenzie.

Yeah.

It was more like the page three and the class b license and all that. It's not on there typed in anywhere. So I just again, and maybe I'll just scope what we're looking at. I just didn't know if that could possibly backfire in any way with the

Okay. Okay. No. Thank you. Okay.

So there's a, motion to approve and a second? Okay. Discussion?

Real quickly. First of all, Praetoria. Praetoria. Okay.

Okay.

And I'm not that smart, but Mark Tenney currently lives next door to me. He's a constituent. And got to have dinner with him the other night. We need to approve this license. That's all I can say. This is gonna be an this this is gonna be a great addition to Manitowoc. That that other than that, that's all I got to say. Thank you very much.

Okay. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. And opposed? Okay. That'll go on consent if there's not an objection. Okay. Next up is the request for PetSkull 26Dash0159 for temporary extension of liquor on North 11th Street Boulevard between York and Buffalo. This is for their food truck rally again in 2026. Discussion from the committee? Is there a motion from the committee?

Motion to approve.

Second. Second.

Motion and a second discussion?

Just a just a question. On, York and and Buffalo, are the streets been blocked off or something? And, okay. Yeah. I wasn't quite certain of that. I thought so. But

on York and Buffalo?

Yeah. Not

York. So it's The eleventh. Eleventh.

Yeah.

But between York and Buffalo. It's west of where Pet School sits Mhmm. Where they kinda have those little roads right there. So there's that little turnaround area, I guess, is all it really is. Okay. But it's, yeah, west, between Pet School Brewery and the river. There's just, a little crossroad.

Yeah. That's what it is.

Yeah. So it'll be blocked, but, yeah, it's it's only real traffic on those roads are people going to pet school, apparently.

To the and and for the event. Yep. Mhmm.

Thank you.

Alright. Motion to approve. Is there a second? Yep. There was. Okay. All those in favor?

Aye.

And opposed? Okay. I'll put that on consent as well if there's no objection. Then we have 26Dash0160, the thousand twenty five municipal court statistics report.

This is an annual report that that is submitted by the municipal court, the kind of financial report of various different categories, and then I'll share that again in state. State before, we're just looking for. So moved. Place on file? Yeah. Motion to place on file. That

Whatever motion he said, that's what I'm motioning.

Place on file?

If you can. Yeah.

K. Yep. Second.

Motion and a second. Discussion? Seeing none. All those in favor? Aye. And opposed? Okay. I'll put that on consent as well. Then we have twenty six dash zero one six one, which is a w Wisconsin DNR Outdoor Recreation AIDS grant agreement, for $500,000 with a $500,000 local match.

Sean? Do you remember between 26 budget presentations by mayor Nicholas? We talked about the Red Arrow Beach phase one and two. Phase one last year. In '25, we borrowed 500,000. The phase two approved 500,000 with the intention at that time we mentioned possibility of getting that grant. This is that grant that we speak of. So this is the ultimate award letter and then the contract, agreement that goes with it. So we're just looking for approval to adjourn the day.

Yeah. Oh, what number?

Yeah. So this would be the the 2025 budgeted money that we had. That would this that would be the match, or was it $2.50, $2.50? I don't remember how we matched.

Five and five.

Yeah. Five and five. Five and five.

Plus there's five.

Plus this.

So it's a mill it's gonna end up to be a $2,000,000 project anyway, but let's hope not. Right.

This is, yeah, 5. So a million borrowed by the city over the course of two years and five.

So we'd be at 1.5.

1.5. Okay. Gotcha.

I didn't know if this replaced the 500,000 on this budget or that's what I okay.

Okay. So we look for a motion to enter into approve and enter into the agreement.

Motion to approve and enter into agreement. Second.

Motion and a second discussion. Right. Seeing none, all is in favor? Aye. Aye. And opposed? K. We'll put that on that consent just to get some more face time on that one. And then we'll our last agenda item is 26 dash zero one six two, which is an American Rescue Plan Act, ARPA agreement with Mantua County for water main extension phase two and three amendment.

We've had your memo to it, but, essentially, we're presenting an opportunity based on how our project amount was when we initially entered into the agreement with the county for phases two and three. We were coming in less than what it was because our original agreement didn't include change orders, so the is working with the in negotiating with the county. Eric was able to negotiate with council to allow the orders. So that kind of memo is as it mentions, we had to act quickly because there's some timing constraints. So we had yeah.

Is executed, but we just wanted it to be on the agenda. It doesn't change it never changed the amount rate. Amount that we released,

I mean, the liability was a way to

Not the i's and cross the t's.

So Mostly. Is the motion it really isn't entered into the agreement. Is it accept the agreement?

So moved. Second.

Alright. There's a motion and a second to accept the agreement. Discussion? All those in favor? Aye. And opposed? Alright. Test that one for signatures as well. Oh, that does exhaust our agenda, the CDA. To adjourn. Motion to adjourn and a second. We are adjourned. Thank you.

Ninety minutes shorter than last night.

Not bad. Bad. Finance really gets things done.

In next meeting, we're going to our home. And then I left. Oh my god. Yes.

That I can Yeah. Yeah.