Planning and Zoning Meeting - Regular Meeting

Thank you, oh God, for this day that you have given us. As we come for the county business, we ask you to help us to make the right decision that you will be pleased with what we do today. In your name we pray. We say amen.

To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Motion to approve minutes from February 12th. Moved and properly second. All in favor? I eyes have. So it is motion to open public hearing. So move second. Moved and properly second. All in favor?

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Good morning. Good morning. So, I am here uh on behalf of Tilman Infrastructure related to the proposed cell tower on Highway 16 East. What's your name, sir? Uh my name is Wayne Barnett. Didn't mean to interrupt you.

No, no problem. Um this will be a 255 ft self-support tower. Um, it'll be primarily for AT&T coverage. Um, I don't know if there's a whole lot of information you want about it. I can share what you need me to. This is owned property owned by Lonnie Harris. Um, please just let me know what you'd like to to know about the project and u I can try to fill you in with details. Any questions?

I don't have any questions. Mr. Barnett, usually when petitioners come for sale tower, uh they have uh we we ask that uh if there is room on the tower for providers. Um we uh for first responders, uh county equipment,

is that is that an issue with you guys or have you thought about that or is that okay? Uh I have not spoken to that directly with uh with my client. However, I I know that typically um they're mostly concerned with the higher heights where they're going to place antennas and they're they're usually pretty open to allowing um municipal antennas at lower heights. If I can get some specifics, I can get a definite answer on Yeah. I don't I don't have specifics and I don't even know if there's a need in that area. Okay. Usually asked. Yes. Okay. Any other questions? No.

Any opposition? I entertain a motion. So motion. Second. Move it properly. Second. All in favor? I have it. So it is. Thank you. Thank you.

Me time partners. Good morning. Uh my name is Ron McMaster. Uh I am the engineer representing uh the developers of uh the Miltown project on Highway 16. Um several years ago that it was in 2021 um the developers purchased an overall 26 to 27 acre tract of land right across from the existing gin that's on Highway 16. Um at the time we reszoned it um from R2 to an R4 with a per overlay. There was one art out parcel that's that front 16. It's an existing kind of dilapidated home there. Now, um they are purchasing that out parcel. It did not get reszoned as part of the 2021 action. So, what we're wanting to do is basically reszone the 2.37 acre out parcel to an R4 per overlay so that everything matches. And this is to support a 34 acre development basically uh just a culde-sac street which will basically wrap up any development uh in that area on this parcel.

So you're just trying to include it in what you already have? Yes, sir. Any questions? I don't have any opposition. Just just for the record, your what you already have your client wraps around this parcel. You just want to include it. Correct. So you want it resone to an R4 with an overlay I make that motion. Any opposition? I entertain the motion. We got Jean with a motion to approve. Second second. Move properly second. All in favor? Have it. So it is.

Thank you. Thank you. Sharon and David. Good morning. Good morning.

Um my name is Sharon Hardigree. My husband David. Um we own the property at 1357 Old Canton Road. And there's been a change in the character of the neighborhood which has involved into a more public need. um the reszoning to the C2 that took place in 1214 than 1021 and 1225 um to C2 um has shown us that there's a greater need for that property and so we reach out this morning um to all and any uh for your support and and help. Um we visited with our neighbors, spoke with them. We asked, "What is it that you would like to see? Um, what could we do for the community? What would help um make this a more um beneficial property not only to ourselves but to the community?" So, we're here and to answer any questions.

Is this map correct? So, surrounded by C2 already and it's just that little triangle that's beginning developing into C2. Is that correct? Right. But all of this already is already the prop the page that lists the properties within 160 ft. That number six I believe is the one that we just approved not too long ago in that area and it follows the same suit. Okay, got it. Any other questions? None. Any opposition?

Good morning. My name is George Carmine. I own the property right behind the heart agree. And they did come meet with us and we told them we'd think about it and pray about it. As far as I know, they're good people. But, uh, I do oppose it. Because when I bought that land, it was all residential and it's still residential according to this map. All this in green right here. The only thing that's uh Z2C2 or Yeah, C2 is marked Jordan's land which goes around to the intersection there. And I oppose it because when I moved there, it was residential and I'd like to keep it residential. And uh I tried to buy the land before the hard bought it. And uh at that time I was building the house. He said after I built the house get back with him. But after I got back with him it was too late. And then my son owns the property on the south side of the property. And if you've been watching the news you know Houston airport is bogged down. So he couldn't make it this morning. He got trapped in that airport. And u he opposes it also. And it's not that we got anything against the people. It's just we don't want uh shopping center in front of our house and also this land is going to be widened there. So, you know, like I said, I'm not trying to make disagreeable with my neighbors, but when that gets to zone C2, then the county is going to be paying a lot more money for that land when they widen it there. And so, different things like that. That's my statement. You can see my property in the corner of that behind theirs.

Can you show us? This is my son's

house.

Oh, it's C2 on here. Yes. You're right here. Yes, ma'am. You come off. Yes, ma'am.

This access is off. He's got access right here and right here. How big is yours? This is 4.4. How big is yours?

Nothing on this one, right? Mr. George, I didn't catch you last. Hey, I'm Laura Jackson. I have 1358 North Old Canton Road, which is that triangle on the across the street from the Carmines. Um, and when I purchased, I sell real estate. I purchased that property because I wanted to get away from the cookie cutter cramp neighborhoods. And I have three and a half acres there. And you know, down the road, I mean, I figured maybe 15, 20 years this might come up, but there's houses, you know, there's a house on uh Cedar Grove across from me, my driveway. Um, like I said, I've got three and a half acres. I'm right across from them and the nutrition store. And then there's two more houses across from his son's house. And then on that corner, a few years ago, somebody built a big giant house. I mean, people are still building nice homes out there. And apparently Dr. Horton has bought a lot of land right up from my house up north old Canton and they're fixing to do a huge subdivision there. So I don't understand why you know we have to move to get this commercialized so quick when they're still developing for residential neighborhoods.

So was the two C2 uh there when you moved? No. I mean, I've been over there for like eight years now, and it was residential. I mean, I'm agricultural, actually. I think mine's owned agricultural. Um, but I'm literally right across from them, you know, where this land is. It's across the street from me. And then my property backs up to that property I think that y'all just reszoned for Deerfield. That was by Deerfield. I didn't know about that hearing or I would have been here.

Okay. But you live in this triangle. Is that correct? Yes, that's my home. I have a home there. I spent a couple hundred,000 getting remodeled and you know to because I thought I'd be there for a long time.

Any other opposition?

Hi, I'm Wanda Carmines, George's wife, and uh we've only been in our house. We built it um about a month, a year and four months ago. So, we've just been in this house. There was a a rundown uh one-bedroom house that we remodeled and lived there. But we th this affects us more than anyone else because we're behind the land. We have no road frontage. We just have a easement to go. So, we're behind this land that we're referring to. And uh I know that they want to sell this land and they want it to be commercial. So my concerns are um after they sell it, they have no control of who buys it and what is going to be there in my front yard. And uh I'm concerned about my safety of what will be there. You know, will it be unsightly? Will it be noisy? Will it have a lot of lights there? undesirabs hanging there. Will it be a liquor store? You know, just what all will it be? So, I'm opposed and I want it to stay residential and I don't want it to be commercial because I don't want that in my front yard.

Thank you. Anyone else? Yes. I just I just want to say that when u we went and visited with uh the family

I'm sorry when we went to visit with the family we assured them that they would have easement right away to their home. Um and at the time we are not uh certain that we will not be the ones developing that. Um we have a property in Satara, Mississippi that Exon Mobile is looking to purchase. That being said, we will have the funds to develop a property there uh office buildings. Um we assured them there would be no huge lights, no juke joint, no liquor store. We are Christian family. We are not for those. Um we also assured them that they would have easement um to that their home. So um and in reference to um having to take um easement um we will be giving not selling that 20 foot easement. We will not be selling that. We will be contributing to the community. And I just wanted you to be aware of that. We we do not expect to receive payment for that. Uh that's our contribution. Uh we want to give to the community. We want to be a blessing. Um we are more on the lines of having um what we call a closing center be a lot of offices about 10 offices there. Um people be able to come and and do their their closing on their properties. It'll be an 8 to5 uh situation which we assured them that there would be nothing no it nothing later than 7 o'lock during you know the day hours. So we just want

to be a blessing. We don't want to cause any problem. Um hopefully um when I spoke to Miss Jackson at one point she had mentioned she might sell hers um but right now we're not real.

Right. Right. And so not anytime soon are we anticipating that either. We're hoping to actually be able matter of fact we've already met with um RJ Singh who is a contractor. He's very familiar. He's developed seven or eight properties here. Uh so we are um you know we are looking to to improve and to offer something that will be good for the community and a blessing. So, I'm I'm I'm gonna ask a couple of different questions here just for my own clarification because sometimes I need that. Yes, ma'am. Um, so you're saying right now that you intend you already have purposes for this sale.

Oh, yes. Okay. And specifically, um, I'm going to ask you another question. You've already spoken with you said you've already spoken with um, a contractor. Yes. So, and you mentioned the Exxon Mobile, which congratulations on that. So, what you're going to do is use your funds to turn this land after it's been deemed C2 into a shopping center. It won't be a shopping center. No, ma'am. It will be office like for doctors, dentist, lawyer. How many do you plan to have there? I'm I'm thinking 10 10

10 office spaces. Yes, ma'am. And then they'll have a common area. They I hope to have also a small bank in there. Um but uh you know for access for closing purposes someone need to cash a check may just be an ATM but have you been in conversations with business with a specific bank or or or this is just something that you envision? I have I have spoken with community bank in the past uh two years about this. Okay. Um community bank is they're like on board. You know they're very excited about it. But um you know all of this is

am I to understand that you're not act you're wanting to move this to C2 because you want you want to control the property. You're not actually going to sell it to someone. It's going to be Yes, ma'am. That is my intention. Absolutely. Okay.

But again, that is based on how quickly or how soon you know that Exxon Mobile moves forward. But we will maintain until we hear from them. um understand probably by the end of this month, the 1 of April, we should maybe know something u because they're already hiring their personnel there. So, and they've already purchased the land which is only like uh probably a half mile from us. So, the 2500 acres. So, yes. So, Andy, is it one of those situations where and this is just for right is just for me to understand where we If that's if that's the case, then it's conditional. Uhhuh.

Yes. Yes. And you're hitting on what I'm what I'm hearing. Okay.

Um some of the some of the concerns that you all have raised, liquor stores, maybe big big box establishment type stuff. She's telling you that that she would agree not to do those things and she just wants it to be professional office space. Um It's one thing to say it in conversation outside, but she's saying it here in and if that becomes a part of the minutes and becomes a condition to the reszoning, that becomes a part of the zoning on the property. In other words, you know, if this were to be approved today and two years from now somebody comes up and says, "Oh, that's C2. I want to put a liquor store there. It's restricted C2 because it was approved conditionally. I don't know if that helps y'all. I'm not trying to get in the middle of your business. I'm not trying to sway forward one way or the other. Trying to answer questions that may alleviate some concerns. It may not. You may just be completely right. Okay. Well, when they met with us, they didn't know what it was going to be. They said it'd be up to the realtor, but it should be something like a doctor's office, dentist office or something like that. Said they'd had one offer from a contractor wanted to park dump trucks and make a dumping yard there. So, uh, but anyway, that 20 foot easement is on the deed. So, it's I've got that easement. Whatever happens, it's on the deed. both of us his deed and I've already spent several thousand dollars fixing that road and asking two or three times Mr. Hardiger if he'd like to help never would so couldn't afford it or whatever that's no that's no problem I

do use the road so I keep it up but uh I just don't think and even though what you said is good sir I appreciate that uh I just don't think you have too much control of what's going to be built there after you turn it over to a realtor and now they already have a realtor and I won't pr prolong I just object. That's all.

And I just wanted to add that I've got eight grandchildren and four great grandchildren and they love playing on my property and it's a great place. And I mean, y'all are already or somebody's already going to take a lot of my frontage uh next year to widen that road. And it's just really going to hurt my property if I'm sitting there, you know, with all that across the street. And I don't know attorneys and dentist office and those people would actually find that a desirable place. You know, like I said, I sell real estate and I that's not what I would think would come there necessarily. So, I just think that I would just appreciate y'all's consideration and, you know, understanding that, you know, they've only been there a year and a half. They built a very nice home. Their son built a amazing home across the street. You got the home and the acreage with the horses and everything. Then you got another house that's been there. And then the people on the corner built the big giant house. I mean, we're talking about $450,000 houses, not, you know, $120,000 house. And then you've got the other residential thing coming up the street. I just think that, you know, we might be jumping too quick to try to reszone this. Anyone else? Any other questions? I entertain a motion. Yes, sir. I just I just wanted to say that we didn't know anything about uh the expense or the cost of the road until the day we actually

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we didn't know anything about the easement that these this family has until the day we met with them. We didn't we haven't received any requests for payment to help update that. We would not have any problem helping with that because that's part of improving the value of the property. So, we would never object to helping with that. Um, also we don't have a realtor just yet. Uh, I think we all know realtors, but I have no realtor. Um my heart desire is to develop a closing center um which will have an attorney, it'll have uh real estate, it'll have uh an appraiser. Um but that's to be decided. Uh if not that then we will be proceeding with having a lawyer's office, you know, a dental clinic, uh medical whatever available. if if that did not work out.

Thank you. Yes, sir. Is there a motion to approve? Is there a motion to deny? Motion to table. I'll make that motion. It's been moved to table. Second. properly second. All in favor?

Robert Love.

Ju just to comment if I may. It sounds like y'all y'all have some common ground and it sounds like y'all have some some opposition. Um, again, not trying to sway anybody or sway you guys or whatever, but Just to make sure that you understand, it's been tabled until the next meeting, which will be on April the 9th. Um, presumably to give you guys an opportunity to sit back down at the table, um, discuss what you may be agreeable to, what you absolutely don't want, and see if you're able to come to a consensus. If you are, wonderful. If you're not, that's okay, too. Just want to make sure you had a full understanding of what transpired and maybe Good morning.

Morning. I'm Robert Loveace. This is my son, Brett. And Let's see. I'm a 34 year cantonian and uh he's pretty much a full Cantonian. And uh I started a business back in 2000. You raised the mic. Thank you, sir. Is that better? Yes, sir.

All right. I started a business back in 2000 uh hauling heavy equipment and uh Mr. Galloway, I'm sure most everybody knows Mr. contacted me about parking across from him in the old Hillbert place, which I think the solar farm was there and they had moved out and I moved in and uh I came up here to pay my privilege license and let know that I was in that area and I was informed that that was zoned agriculture and uh I got with Mr. Weeks and uh he let me know what all the I needed to do to try to get it reszoned and done everything that I know and that's that was my plan is to get it zoned commercial. It's a small small area. I'm in between uh two honky tonks and a grass cutting business and a liquor store.

So you looking to add this to the solar farm? Add it to the solar farm? No. No. Okay. No, that's not a part of the solar farm. I don't know if you know this, Mr. Love Lace, but how how long are those leases for the solar? I don't have a clue. Do you know any usually pretty long? 30 30 40

30 plus years. Just curious because it looks part of it is on this property. I'm sorry again. What What Excuse me, sir. What is your What What are your plans for this one? I'm just parking there. Parking my equipment there. Sir, parking my equipment there. That's your plans? Yes, ma'am. Are you already doing that? Yes, ma'am. Okay. And what's the problem with it? Well, it's it's zoned agriculture,

so and I was informed that I needed to get zoned commercial in order to park your equipment. That's correct,

Commissioner McCarti. Yes, we've had issues with that in the past where a property is zoned agricultural or maybe residential there's someone like Mr. Love that may have multiple vehicles heavy equipment that they park there overnight and that's not permitted in those. So that's we've had to take action as a county against those property owners because operating business or zoning violation in the particular zoning classification district. I think that's what is trying to avoid resoning this from A1 to C2 so that he can park their property issues.

So would he have to have a buffer a petition? A buffer or a petition I'm sorry to hide the heavy equipment? That would be up to you guys, you know, as far as screening would go or fence or landscaping, those types of things. And that's that's up to you guys. Well, right now that that particular parcel is surrounded by the solar farm and it's still zoned A1, I assume. The solar farm. Uhhuh. Or is it? I don't know. That was a conditional use. So conditional use for an A1.

That was my thinking. I thought it was and already zoned because they were there and I was informed that was a exception. Right. Okay. But I had already started kind of clean the place up, put a a gate in along with a fence, you know, nice fence. Then when they f, you know, inform me of this, I I just quit. Okay. Is there any opposition? I entertain a motion.

I move that we will grant the petition is request one to R2. C2 C2. Second. So moving properly second. All in favor? I have it. So it is motion to close public hearing. So move. Thank you. Thank you. All in favor? Who was that second? Was that Eugene? No. Um we can't hear you.

Motion to accept the second Thursday in April. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Mr. Lovely. I'm sorry, Mr. Love Lace. Uh, April 6 will be the board of supervisors meeting in here. That'll be your last step. Yes, sir. Motion to favor. Yes, sir. Right here. Same same room.