Planning Board - Regular Meeting

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all the way down. What's up? No, he he uh he's on 85. He's stuck in traffic. That was a motorcycle earlier. So, Oh, boy. All right. Well, we can start with Do I need to turn a microphone on or It's on you. But you can turn it off if you want to. But because that one's on, they hear it. Okay. Better when you turn on your mic. Okay. All right. I'll go ahead and call this meeting to order. We do have a quorum. And uh let's stand for the pledge of allegiance, please. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay. Did did we do we have any changes uh to the agenda? No changes. And uh I see that agenda is handled. Yes. And if and if that being the case, uh can I get a a motion to approve the agenda? Yeah, I'll make a motion we approve. I have a motion. Do I have a second? A second. Have a second. All in favor? Unanimous. Very good. So, approve of minutes from the last meeting. Do you have the minutes? I don't I don't

Cheryl's awesome. She's to the rescue. or last I think September 3rd we haven't done this in so long we met one time and didn't have a quorum right remember that the city and uh So jungle been hiking around by beautiful

No hurry, but if anybody would like to make a motion to approve or disapprove, go right ahead. So move. I have a motion. Do I have a second? Second. I have a second. All in favor? Unanimous. Old business we have none. Is that correct? That's correct. For new business, complete HR forms. Yeah. So, Cheryl, you go ahead. Bad news, I guess. Um, tell them we ain't going to do. So last year when I had to do for our property liability and workers comp insurance, I was told that you all have to be on payroll if they're going to pay you the $25 a month. And so in order to put you on payroll, you got to fill out the NC4 and the W4. So that forms, which means your $25 check is going to turn to like $21. But or you can, you know, put it all towards federal or state or whatever. But um yeah, so we have to put you on payroll. So I'd like to start doing that this meeting if I can if you I mean or at the very latest July 1st. So um so I have the form. So if you take a W4 and NC4, you don't have to do it tonight if you don't want to. It shouldn't take long, but I do need them back um as soon as you can. So, if you drop it by the office or something like that, that's going to get every little pin. Oh, yeah. Everything

get you need copies of anything? No. I don't think you have to do I9. I tried to find out. I don't think you have to do I9 because you're not physically working for it. But I'll find out if I need you to do that. That'll be the next meeting. I might have to do that. We got a couple T around here. I can get a I'm just going to bring my back. You mean work? I didn't Dave. Here's I got one. I got here. I got two. Just pass them by. I'll figure out we're supposed to be paying attention to this next. Well, well, yeah, we can you can fill. Yeah, if you want to fill them out while I'm talking, that's fine, too. And it's just the first sheet. The second the other few sheets are the instructions that go with them, but um I just need the first sheets back. All right. That's all I have. We got All right, we'll move on to the next item is vote to open application process for a new member. Yeah. So, we had a we had a member um that was that was approved maybe about a year ago that I think maybe attended one or two meetings. Um since then that member no longer lives in law or has attended uh has missed more than three consecutive meetings which is in the bylaw says you must attend. Um so we need to have a vote to remove that member from this board and also open um or ask for open for the um approval to appoint a new member take applications. So, we just need a vote on that to vote the old vote the old member

out and open up applications for a new member. Okay. Um, do I have a a motion to vote the uh to remove the old member that's no longer coming? I'll make a motion we remove. Do I have a second? Second. and all in favor and then uh I guess we need to uh um is there any discussion on this vote to open uh up for applications? Anybody may have any discussion? Anything anybody would like to say about that? And if I could get a motion to open for applications, we can proceed through it. Make a motion to open applications. I have a first. Do I have a second? Second. I have a second. All in favor? Yeah. And uh what what is the process on that? Just quickly. Uh just sure we'll post it on our website and uh we'll probably keep it open for 30 days. We had we had a guy, sorry to cut you off, but we had a guy remember that uh um he was interested and then they appointed the other person, but the other guy was maybe we could reach back out to him and say that we have a position open and see if he'd like to reapply. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's fine. But yeah, like probably we'll keep it up to him for 30 days. Uh sure will get the applications um on that we can review those um internally then bring them to this board and then upon that the

recommendation of the city council board. That's approval. Do we know who that person was his name? Yeah, I'm sure Cheryl has that information. I don't I don't recall who it was. That's cool. Well, if we could just let him know so we can reapply, I think that'd be good. Okay. Yeah. So, I actually put my whole name there in order for you to get this and you can tell you later. But yeah. So, yeah. So, we'll open it up uh open applications up this week or next. Good. And then move forward with that. Wonderful. Now, uh the next item is discussion of the LDO article 8. take it away. Yep. So, there has been some talks and discussions about some of the zoning districts um within the LDO. Um I know this this was written back in 21 and approved then and in focus that's done the training here kind of helped lead that discussion back then in 21. Um, since then, um, some questions have been raised about some of the districts, like I said earlier, um, possibly modifying those, um, districts through here. Mainly, the the biggest concern that I think that's going on right now is the uh, residential main street transition, which would be on page 11. that um that one has come up in conversation because of the Grove Street um houses that were built and the apartments over on Mil Street. Mil Street. Yeah. The main the main one right now I think is the focus is the is the homes that were built on main uh on Grove Street. Um I

think the concern the main concern is the uh the lot sizes. Yeah. And you know, so what so basically what's hap what's been happening in the re in the recent months is these developers are coming in and buying up the these vacant lots or buying up dilapidated homes or vacant homes or whatever the case may be. They're essentially tearing those down and then subdividing the lots. Um I think the concern is um you know putting four homes on a single lot. And so I think we what we need to discuss as a group um so I can take this back to council is you know what do we what does this board see in the ordinance how it currently reads? What are some challenges or what are some things that this board would like to see as far as the actual ordinance, how it reads currently? And again, it I know there's there's probably other uh districts in here that probably need to be addressed. I just know that this transition area over here on Main Street was is one of the main concerns as of right now. So again, I'm up for any discussion and and this is not we're not we're not going to be taking a vote on changing this tonight. It's kind of just going through um the residential main street transition district to see what could be changed if anything. And there is also a um multi- family going on the lot between 30 2 or what 300 right here on First

Street. Possibly. Possibly. I have I haven't approved it yet. Um but does that help not to approve it? So, um yeah, so that those those have those plans have been submitted. Um and as the current ordinance reads reads, those would be uh permitted in there. Um I have um you know, renderings of what it would look like and there'd be three units in there would be three units in there all in one building. Yeah. All together. So, it's a duplex or triplex triplex. Okay. Um, again, in how the or and how the ordinance currently reads, that would be um allowed in that district or on that lot. Um, would it be grandfathered in if the ordinance was changed? I'm assuming whoever bought the lot, whatever it was sold as. Well, yeah. I mean, it might it may fall under non-conforming, you know. I I don't know because again it's not been approved. They just have been they've just been submitted you know for approval. Um, so yeah, so like I said, I'm I'm open to discuss any of these things that you know what you see in you know on on especially the main street transition district kind of. Did we put a freeze on building permits here in law cuz we have the infrastructure that that was one thing that was suggested that all building be put on hold until the ordinance was rewritten. But we have an ordinance in place. We have the capacity. We have the infrastructure there. Um so in we couldn't put anything on hold, right? Um

currently now again depending on how quick this goes through, you know, it could change now. And there and there and there would be other ways that you know that we could leave the ordinance the same and not make any tweaks to it. We could look at um the the fee aspect of it, but again, as it sits currently, no, we couldn't say you can't come here and build. What What size are those lots over there on Corner Bridge and and Groves? They're between uh 15 and I believe 17. Is that R4? It's residential main street transition. I mean, is that like R4? R Oh, I don't know. I wasn't here when R4. Since I've been since I've been here, uh, we've had L we've had the LDO, not the UDO. So, we've had the SFR2, three, and four. But, um, well, and it looks like, if I remember right, I looked that up the last question about it a while back, too. I think they bought two lots, two different separate lots and they combined. That's right. That's right. And when then they combined those two lots and I don't remember the size and that's where they put the houses and and you know bottom line was it fell within what our guidelines were. That's right. and and and I think the the idea, you know, if I'm read if if I read it correctly and and and kind of just looking at the ordinance, they're look when the ordinance was written, they're looking for the density side of it to bring, you know, more residents to the downtown area. So they're lot. So that's when

they've made the minimum lot sizes to this 5,000, right? minimum standard to bring more to again bring more to one specific area, right? Uh instead of making, you know, one house or you know, one resident, right, per lot, they're bringing four in. Yeah. So, that that's how I take how the ordinance was written. M and and to his point that you know asking about the R4 or whatever uh this this is a detach single seven per acre versus the four. Wow. So punch on one acre if they could even do it. Again, I u depend on Tyler can speak to that better than I can, but depending on where it's located, you still got setbacks you got to abide by those type things. So, depending on where it is, they may or may not be able to ever put seven units on on That's right. Yeah. Even though even and that's what I try to explain to people like even though the um the district or this that zoning particular would allow for like Norse is saying up to seven units. That doesn't mean you can jam seven units in there. You may only be able to get four because of the setbacks and things like that. But but it would be allowed page 10. Yeah. if yeah, page 10 those type setbacks talking about. Yeah. So, yeah. So, the ordinance would allow for it, but again, you you'd have to meet all the criteria in order to get that in there.

Um, so yeah. And does the this ordinance require driveways? Yes. Okay. Yes. So the so the so where you're talking about by your house um they're showing about six to eight spaces um that would that would be that would be in this triplex near your house. Okay. You got another one of those? Uh possibly you can have this one. Which what which book do you have? Where's this property at? Is that your boat going straight? Yeah, this is that's the same thing that's in your book. Okay. New house on the corner. Everybody get these. They're easy to where is right where that big white house was. So again, I'm willing we just need to discuss because again I got to take any recommendations back to the council. Um, well, I I've had I've had I've had a couple people contact me about this actually, and they're they were very concerned about the exact apartment or buildings, houses you were talking about. And uh um I said, "Well, that's Main Street Transitional." So, I looked it up and I said, "This is different than the residential that we all kind of know where it's like three per acre." I said, "With Main Street Transition, totally different. It's more dense." And uh I think that's what's unsettling to the people that have contacted me, right? And and I can agree to that to some extent. You know, you want it's nicer when everybody's got a little

elbow room and a little more space, not as dense. And uh I think it does better over time. But I mean, what uh what are what are our options as far as that goes? I mean, can we change the zoning where it's made through transitional and uh anything that's not in in in in process, can we go in and can we change it and uh put it back to uh something less dense? Yeah, that that's what we're here to discuss. Um you know, whether it's changing the ordinance as it sits, a reszoning, um that's what that's what we're here to discuss tonight. Again, I I don't I don't have the the answer. That's what we're here to, you know, kind of discuss and and go over. That way, I can say, okay, this is what we discussed. The planning board, these were their recommendations as far as updating this article. Well, I think that's where we need to start is what where does everybody think we should be? How many per acre? I I I I would want to know are there other townships in our area that have a transitional uh um zoning and what are they're what are they going what are they doing? So give us give us a visual of okay if we if we stayed at seven this is what it could look like right if we move it back to four you know or whatever but see what some of these other towns have done so that we don't make a mistake that maybe some of those guys have made. M yeah this is all u you know updating this ordinance and making change this is all new. Yeah this was something that literally was just brought up at the last meeting. So again I don't and I

don't think we should you know fly into something. We really can't do anything tonight anyhow. Can No, that's just why we're discussing kind of seeing where what everybody's thinking. Should we should we maximize the uh the lot width, you know, the lot the minimum square foots? Should we have some setbacks in there? Because I believe there's not um there's not any setbacks limits to this district. So again, it's just talking through mainly this, you know, this district in particular because this is something this this district is one that um is a hot topic right now. and council directed us to talk to directed. Yeah. To talk to because you had this have to go through you all first then. So they wanted you to talk. Well, I think Norris is right. Well, I think I was about to say the same thing because we probably need to see what other towns are doing before we kind of pull the trigger to make a decision, right? kind of call maybe cuz I know in in in in Kurtton they have that small little district and then you know like in Belmont they have the same small little district kind of kind of get the feedback of other towns to see. Yeah. And then we kind of base judgment cuz where is Main Street? Let me first of all let me I I just drive the streets. I don't really look at the name of what we talking about. Main Street. So, what the big question is is um these houses right right by the coffee shop on the floor those four houses. So, I think those are too close to the street. That's just my opinion. I think they're a little too close. They should sit back a little bit more because I realistically in the world when you driving now, people texting and driving all the time. That's just easier for somebody to rough off the road into those houses. I do think they're a little closer. Right. Right. The ones that's facing the actual the Grove Street. Yeah, that's right. But again,

how the ordinance is currently written, it allow how they are constructed, it allows that. And I think that is a, you know, one of the concerns of the citizen is how close they're able to be to the road. Yeah. And if the state decides to ever widen the road Mhm. they're going to be even closer cuz they already have a rightway. That's right. And u Yeah. Yeah. So again, probably half of their front yard, right? And so I and I think to the first street in Yeah. And I think to u bring in focus who wrote the ordinance back in 21, bring them back in or you know, at least talk to them and say, "Hey, kind of walk us through how you came up with the the square foot, the setbacks. How did you come up with that? What what are some towns that that kind of have this same ordinance like y'all were speaking on? Um and see again I I don't I can't I don't know what other I'm more of a visual person anyway. Yeah. And I I don't know because I don't know what towns like Kramerton or Belmont or Mount Holly. I don't I don't know what they have. I mean obviously they have a more um it's more of a business district for them. That's right. Than and residential. And I think that's what InFocus would tell us when they wrote this ordinance is they were gearing us toward bringing more development downtown, which would then they would want more residents downtown for a walkable community. That's what I would assume the reason why they did that. Um, it was but you know what I mean. But, you know, I mean, that's what that's how I'm that's what I'm envisioning. Okay. Yeah. Of why

they got You almost hate to see them take down the original residential district, right? And and do that. If you go down this road, you know, hillbillies here to the interstate, that's more feasible cuz there's nothing there anyway, right? I can see them putting apartments under retail buildings or whatever, you know? I can see that that would Unfortunately, I think LOL's not laid out for like Belmont is in Kramerton and even McDaniel. It's just it's just not laid out like that. Right. Yeah. People aren't from those houses to the town. Exactly. Maybe if stuff was built there. You're right. They would. Yes. Yeah. And I hate to see them tear down these homes. Well, you're you you're in walking distance. Mhm. How do you weigh in on this? What do you think? You walk downtown a lot? No. But you got to have somewhere to bring people down. Let me back up. I walk I walk down I walk this this road every night from my house over here. But I I don't ever go that way. I just don't see nobody walking that way. Ain't nothing there. No. Oh, that's why I just said I was No, it's not even You can't to me you can't always bank on having residents move in and then you then businesses coming in. I mean I that I don't think that's always the the case in in communities. I mean right u there again if you look at Kramerton Belmontville I mean you look at Randallow they're not geared for that either. They're almost in the same situation. Yep. So because at least Belmont, Crington, they got well Crington, not Crington, but they have the restaurants, they have the little breweries and stuff like that. We don't have any of that. And you can't say, "Well, if we get people here, then businesses will want

to I think businesses need to be developing first." That's right. To draw people to We do have people. We do have people. You're right. We do. Sever, you know, several years ago, we didn't have the people. Mhm. Mhm. We have the people now, but the people here don't have anywhere to go cuz there's nothing in little businesses. Yeah. We don't have the little hairdressing. And we don't need I wonder doesn't do us any good. No. Yeah. We don't hair replacement shop. I think we need to look at that. I think maybe the company you're alluding to the in focus or whatever. Maybe have them come in for a meeting. Let's let's discuss that cuz I do think we need to look at it um before we make any any decision truthfully. Yeah. And I don't think you know that we just start picking numbers out of a hat and saying, "Okay, we're at 5,000 now, right? Let's just pick a bunch of numbers out of our head and say we're bumping to 7,000." fight. But um but again, I kind of just want to have everybody here put it on your radar that we need to get we need to put this ball in motion in order to either, you know, rewrite this ordinance, update the ordinance. Um I think maybe changing the boundary, maybe making those houses not in that transition area res Yeah, reszone it or you know, whatever the case it may be. updating the zoning map, but again, start thinking about what would you what would you like to see there? Um, well, let me ask you this to what Scott said earlier. Is there a way between now and because this is not going to be something we do probably next month, it's going to take months of Is there a way to put that if somebody did try to come in and buy multiple homes, is there a way to put a freeze on that until we make that decision? We can

because we are, this has already been adopted and approved. And again, like I said, we all the infrastructure is there. We have capacity to serve them, right? If we didn't have any of those things, if we didn't have the capacity, we didn't have the infrastructure, um, this was on the books, uh, this wasn't on the books, then yeah, I could say, yeah, we're we're going to halt development. But since we have all those things in place and available, I don't I don't know legally how we could say again the only other the only other solution that would be there is to increase the fees for development. That would be the only way. Well, that just gets passed to the But but I'm just saying but that would be the only way that we the fees would just be so outrageous nobody would want to come to LOL and and and I don't think we want to do that. But that's why I'm saying that be the only that'd be the only quick that'd be the that would be the to be able to talk to be able to do it just like that because the budget's coming up for approval in June or for in to be approved in June for adop you know to go through in July. That would be the only thing. But again then you're and once you change the price on that you have to stick to it until you change it. Yeah. You couldn't go back or you're setting yourself up for several lawsuits. That's right. That's right. So, and again, we don't really I mean, this one right here and the one by your house, I mean, that's the only one that's that's in the pipeline in that kind of vicinity. I don't have any in the pipeline that I know about that's coming. The rest of them are just again these little oneoffs on on some

side streets. Yeah. Right. Um, and just to look at it, I I said uh page page uh 12, but actually the back back side of that has the setbacks and everything on those on those watch out there. Page 10. Uh, is that Yeah, page 10. I'm sorry. Yeah. And and if you you know, you can look and see the comparison. But other than the s other than those setbacks, I think the easy thing for us is just to realize that, you know, we we jump from the SR SFR4 to basically what would be an SFR 7. Right. Right. Cuz Yeah. I mean, if we were thinking in those terms, that's what we're looking at. We're going from say four an acre to seven an acre. So somebody could come in seven tiny houses and that's that's that's that's a big jump. It is a big jump, but like Tyler said, I I think getting getting information first is is the is the best thing we could do. If it's a slow process, it's a slow process, right? And it's the right thing to do. Wouldn't we need to have a public hearing, too? Yeah, we would have to. If we were going to amend the LDO, yes, there would have to be a public hearing. um for 30 days for any comments and then if there was no comments then we'd adopt it the next month. Okay. Yeah. So basically like like North saying I mean SFR4 7800 square ft for minimum lot sizes this residential transition is uh 5,000. Yep. So I I think to really kind of put it in perspective, if we think about uh the street going towards Sundrop where the the one units have already been built, then if we think the road uh Main Street going towards Dollar General and a

little beyond, that's all in play. And then of course going down seven down towards uh uh Ram. Um so some of that is in play. So you have to kind of think and then you visualize from here up to the interstate is also in play. Well, this is all well this is all going to be Main Street here, right? But don't do you hit transitional? I don't I don't I think u main Okay. Um, a little bit on um on East First is Main Street and then a lot mostly up here is is residential and then industrial. Okay. So, you get a little bit all over, but when you go towards Dollar General and you get past Dollar General, the big the big vacant lot there is uh uh Main Street. That's mixed use. It is. And then on the back side, they did both sides of the block. So that's how the apartments went in on the back side. And the and the back side's mixed use as well. Yeah. So, uh, when they came through it was pretty there's there's all kinds of pieces of parts that, uh, through the years I've heard complaints about that one and then the one, uh, over here towards Sundrop and, uh, and people keep complaining. They don't they don't want the high density stuff, which, uh, just keep thinking about the roads and where it's at. Now, in the LDO book, you have a book yet. Oh, in the book we've got a big map and it shows uh in here somewhere in the back in the back. Yeah, it's somewhere in here. Anyway, well, uh it's in here and it shows all the zoning for the whole city. It's kind of small, but I think what we need to do is go home and kind of look at and study what's what within the city. And then you get us a professional to come in and

kind of sit us down, walk us through everything, and then we can just look at it all. While we're looking at, let's look. Yeah. I can't hear. But I think uh you bring in the professional, we'll walk through it again and let's all be thinking about all this around here in the center of town. Uh there may be other changes that maybe one of you guys says, "Hey, this looks like this might be a problem." So, let's not just focus on the the the main street transitional. Let's focus on all the zoning and see if there's anything. So, if we're going to do it, let's do it all. just look at it all and uh see if we see any problems anywhere. Does that sound right? Yeah. Yeah. I'm good. I just don't think we need to rush. Yeah. Just every problem. Yeah. And you know what? We ain't going to be able to make everybody happy cuz some people it's not going to like change at the end of the day. This is 2025. Cities are developing and it's happening everywhere. It's going to either happen now or later when we all go on here, right? Either steer it or you don't. It's going to happen. Yeah. It's it's either it's going to happen when we're here or when the next rotation come through. It's going to happen to grow by 225,000 in the next I think two years. Yeah. And then Charlotte's growing by at least a million. So they're they're naturally coming down. Mhm. And cuz I know I remember when I moved here 15 years ago, I moved here because it was quiet. It was cheaper. Back when we had water bills that was 40, 30 bucks. So I know that's what I rode through and I was like, oo, never heard of it, but I was like, I like it. This is where I want to live and that's why I moved. But and

it's still cheaper than Charlotte. Oh yeah. People want to keep it that way, but I don't know that it can be kept that way. Well, it's not it's the it's the economy in general. We're not going to be able to get away from always being cheap realistically. It's just unfortunate that we might be cheaper, but it's not going to always be cheap because of just the cost of you have to have tax base to move the city forward as well. Yeah. So, it's just it unfortunately just and that's another thing you got, you know, that you have to realize too when you're thinking about doing this is that from a taxbased perspective. You know, you may not like the four houses on on one lot, but again, that's four separate tax taxes versus if you're just going to throw one house on the lot. I didn't even know he was putting four houses right there. Yeah, my bad. So, well, I can tell you what most people perceive when you talk about that cuz we've heard it our whole lives or most of our lives. The more people you have, you got the tax base and that keeps your taxes. But it hasn't. It's never has. It doesn't matter whether you're Charlotte, it doesn't matter that those taxes still go up and people look at that and they're like, "Well, we just added 2,000 homes to keep our taxes down cuz they're going to be picking it up." No, the value of those homes. That's right. Makes our taxes go up. So that's always a misconception come when people talk about make our taxes. I mean, I've heard a whole lot. The more you know, we'll help you out. That's not true. No, I agree with you. And honestly, with those that development coming, that road coming from Dollar General into town, it's going to be a tragedy. Oh, it's coming like us. If you're if we're going to try to turn and get on 85, we're not going to be able to make it if there's not a turning bike put up there. That's what needs to be

looked at. I promise you, like, you know, because people block that intersection. They have no choice. Peace. At peaks, then there's no way that's got to put something there. That's on DOT's radar. That's been Yeah, they got those turnarounds, those runarounds planned for it, I think. One here and one out there. Yeah. I don't really think that's a good idea cuz my mama have trouble roundabouts. There's roundabouts to some. And then honestly, even with the 18 wheelers coming through now, that's that's going to be another problem with the roundabouts. They won't be able to go through the roundabouts with the 18 wheelers. Well, we got 18 wheelers going down First Street now. Yeah, I saw that today. Yeah. Mhm. and and turning either on Bridge Street or Oak Street to go. I had to stop one the other day cuz I was coming I tell him I said just go straight and I'm doing like this like go straight but that's a bad area. Somebody told my car over there. That's where I got they told my car. Yep. T-bone me. Whole car gone. My Nissan Tyler. Are you going to try to get in touch with that? Yeah. And I and I think it's I think it's best to have them in there because or here because again they're the ones that wrote it. They have some background information as to why they wrote it the way that they wrote it. Again, we if within this next month hopefully I can get them in here at the next meeting, what just write down whatever questions that you have for them so that we can present them to them when they're once they're here. Um and kind of just go kind of go from there. against this is not going to be a f it's not going to be a fast process. We just we just don't want to come in here and start changing numbers and doing as far as like lock dimensions for other towns and what they're doing. Is it do they have theirs online available online for us to be able to see that?

cuz we can kind of probably pull that up and kind of look and see what their setbacks are versus really think about where we want to, you know, what goals we want for the future for this for this for our town cuz uh you know this was set in the first place as very aggressive for growth and building the the whole downtown area up quite a Yeah. So, I mean, do we want to stay consistent with that or do we want to change to something else? So, lots of homework for everybody, lots of thinking. Yeah. So, um and and look around and see and then you know when you talk to people, people talk to you and uh see what they have what they think and and just kind of figure out what what what you can bring to it. And then next meeting we'll uh hopefully get the people in here and Yeah. to see. We'll we'll throw all this together. I have a quick question. Yeah. Before we wrap this one up. Um, can people park along Brook Street like on the street? That's one. Think about those houses with that little planned driveway where most What if they have a gathering? It's not coming. Yeah. Yeah. They just won't. Yeah. They won't You can't No, you won't be able to I mean I don't I mean I don't I mean I don't think people's going to park on the on the main thorough fair like that. I can see them parking across the street. across the street where the where the track stick in the grass. I've seen people park on the edge, right? Yeah. I was just seeing those kind of driveways. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, that's what that's what a lot of this a lot of these homes are going to. They're they're you go and you look at the the the garage and you can fit a lawn mower in there, you know? Not a garage. Yeah, that's what I mean. So, I mean that the reality is that's

just what the housing's going to. You don't see the halfacre lots anymore and twocar garages and it's more like a storage unit. Yeah. It's you don't you're not those are not because again they're looking these developers are looking to put as many houses as they pos you know maximize the land you know they're not you just don't see them like somebody told me the other day those houses are going for $320,000 they probably are. I don't know how much you're going for but you're probably right that's not a bad price actually. The younger generation don't want to cut grass in the yard. They don't want So they don't care about having an acreage. That's it. That is true. They don't care. They don't And they don't want grass. They don't want grass though. They want minimal as possible, right? Like you see around Belmont, you see a lot of like they have all these homes and they have no yard and then they have a park in the middle and uh and so and they don't have to they can go take advantage of that not don't have to mow the yard. Right. So, do we have there there's a car that's been parked down here on First Street for 2 months at least. Okay. And it's just sitting there. It belongs to the the people in the uh the small house behind the first house right here, 302 or whatever. Mhm. And uh but they I think it it died and they just pushed it back there and just left it. That's so it's located at somebody's house. It's in the yard right at It's between the telephone pole and the street. Okay. I'll have to look at I don't know that that's the first I've heard of. Yep.

Just just right here. Yep. first house past the uh post office. Okay. It's a trailblazer. Okay. We can look at it cuz I know I mean on the interstate or other roads you got a few days to move it, you know. So, yeah. Is it does you know if it belongs there? It don't belong at the house is sitting at. It's beside the driveway that goes back to the what used to be the pool house. Okay. And they transferred it in I mean they made it into a uh a small small apartment. Okay. I'll I'll take a Okay. So, if that's is that everything? Anybody else have anything else? Anybody? Anybody? All right. Well, if that's it, then uh do I have a motion to adjurnn the meeting? I have a motion. Do I have a second? I got a second. All in favor? Come from when you're filling out the NC