City Council - Regular Meeting

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we're going for 23 minutes. I'll call the meeting in order and I'll ask uh former mayor pro Tim Thomas Gillespie to come up and lead us in invocation. If all if everyone please stand. Let us pray. Our father and our God, we thank thee for this day. We thank you for your son Jesus who died on Calvar's cross that we might have a right to the tree of life. Now, Father God, we ask your presence in these city council chambers. God, we ask that you bless our mayor, our city councilman. We ask you to bless our city clerk, our city attorney, our city manager, and Lord, bless all of the people who work to make Ly the great town that it is. God, as we close this prayer, teach us that as long as America is good, it will remain great. Teach us, oh God, to do justice, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with our fellow man. And God, we thank you because you have taught us to do unto others as we would have them do unto them. We thank you, Lord. This is our humble prayer. In Jesus name we pray. Amen.

Amen. Now we'll have the pledge of allegiance.

Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. I'd like to officially welcome everyone here tonight and thank thanks thanks to all of you for coming out. Appreciate it. So, the first uh item on the agenda tonight is going to be public comments. Anyone would like to speak, just come up and state your name and address. You you're welcome to speak. Okay. If anyone has any comments while there all right there being none, we'll go on to the uh adoption of agenda for this meeting. I'll make a motion we adopt the agenda.

Okay. Have a second. Second. All in favor? Thank you. Okay. The next thing is going to be the approval of a regular city council meeting minutes. Second. What's wrong?

Okay. Okay. Need to approve of the regular city council meeting minutes of August 12th, 2025. Make a motion we approve the minutes from council meeting of August 12th, 2025. Thank you. I have a second. Second. All in favor? Thank you. Special presentation. What does that tell? No, we don't have we have Shane. Shane, what you going to do, Shane? I'm kidding. Second. All right. Consent agenda. We need a motion to adopt the consent agenda. Make a motion we adopt the consent agenda. I have a second. Second. All in favor?

Thank you. Is unanimous. There's only three. Okay. The next thing on the agenda is going to be the um set the public hearing for article 8 text amendment. Ju

uh just real quick before we do that would like to introduce uh Jennifer Dumont. She is our new storm water administrator. She comes uh to us from Mount Holly um where she's uh did storm water uh for three years over there. But I am going to let her introduce herself to this board and to the city. Go ahead.

I'm Jennifer Dumont. Like Tyler said, I came from Mount Holly. Um worked with Stormwater for three years there and then before that I was with Gaston County Schools. So, I'm working on a master degree in emergency disaster management through Western Carolina. So, here to help get this permit straightened out and see what storm water issues has. Thank you. And welcome to L. Let's give her a hand every she used to live in law, so she's coming back. That's good. All right.

Um Yes. So, moving on to 6A. set public hearing for article 8 text amendment. So um over the past month or so um it was brought uh to our attention that we would need to look at article 8 which is the um districts uh zoning districts uh for l and in that time um frame we looked at some changes to the setbacks to the minimum lot sizes in the RMST which is the uh residential main street transition. Um and in in your packet you'll have a overall summary of kind of what we have decided and recommendations that we needed to do. Um the strikeout we have done the strikeouts and highlighted in uh italics and bold are the additions to this proposal. Um, and if the changes that have been made, um, if those are something that you want to move forward for, we would like to set the public hearing for October 14th, 2025 at 6:00.

Board's already looked at it. Yes. And there they are in favor of this. What's the council's pleasure?

For me, I mean, I've kind of looked at a lot of different things for the zoning. Uh, I definitely think we need to do something with the RMST. What I think or what I'm trying to prevent is like the homes that went in on Grove Street. You know, I just think that's too many homes for such a small area. Uh, I think the minimum standard, you know, is 5,000 right now. uh not only for the RMST but for the main street district as well. If you look at it, we don't really have a set minimum for the main street. I know it's not as part of this, but that's something that I would, you know, I think we need to go back and look at. I think we need to go back and look at all of our districts as a whole. Now, if you look at, you know, our SFR4, which is I think we have something on it in here tonight.

We do. What lotizes for SF4? What? What are they? The lot sizes currently are 7,800. We're proposing to move it to 8725. It' be like 87.25 times 100, right? The lot size. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what the other members think, but I think, you know, if you're looking at it, we say it's four units per acre. But yeah, we have it set at 7,800.

You know, that's about a 179 lot size, but we say it's four units, which should be a quarter acre minimum lot size. And I almost think that should be about 108, which would give you that SFR4. It's kind of hard to read some of our articles. Uh some spots it'll tell you the minimum is four units, but yet if you look at the square feet wise, it would actually be about five and a half units per acre. If you if you're allowed to build a 50 by 100 that the old at the old lot size I'm looking at what we

like on Grove Street. What was that lot size, Tyler? I think those are roughly.15 talking about the whole one house, one one lot and they turn it into four properties, right? That's right. So, I think right now the lot size they're about 1.5 1.4. That's what they had to build the four houses on. Mhm. Because the lot the the current under the current standards the lot sizes for that district are uh actually if it's 5,000 be about.1 one. I mean that's less than an eighth of an acre. Yeah. But so under the current zoning right now for that um zoning district it's 5,000 with a uh 12t uh setback 12 off the front.

Yes. So we're prop we're proposing now to change that to 8,000 with a 20 foot setback. You parking your car out on the road if you you got a limousine you'd be out in the middle of the night. 8,000 to put it at 08 or like 183 I think as far as acre wise. Mhm. So what has to happen? We have to set a public hearing to change everything, right? Yeah. So set if if if agreed if uh if you agree on what you got before propos if you agree with the proposal now we need to set the public hearing for October 14th at 6:00. What are you saying Jane? They need to be smaller lot.

Not only that, one thing we didn't look at in here is if you look at the single family attached town homes and those lot sizes are 1,600 square feet. So if you wanted to pack in some town homes, you could really pack in some town homes. Now if you if you go to our online or article, you know, as far as the standards for that, I think there is a density of I want to say about 14 and a half maximum. You have to have places to park as well, right? All that has to be encompassed to what you're doing. You need to have so many parking spaces for each town home or each house, whatever.

That's right. an open state setting a public hearing for this. we need to revisit. I think my personal opinion is I think we need to go ahead with this just to get this kind of in the works, but then we also need to direct the, you know, back to the zoning board to look at the 1600 square feet, maybe even some of the SFR2s, FS, SFR3s. I mean, I know it's kind of a lot encompassed in that and right I think it's going to take some some time to do that, but in the meantime, I think we definitely need to

move forward with some of the corrections here. Just I mean, if you look, there's there's a couple different Hey, there's not a lot of land. Mhm. But there's a couple of empty lots that, you know, if you've got a 4 and a half acre lot that's MS, then basically, you know, if that's 14 1.5 units per lot, that's 20 or 14 and a half times 4.5 60. Same if you know the lot beside the library, empty lots, 2 and a half acres or 2.1 acres. I mean, if they wanted to come in and put in either a bunch of houses close together like they did on Grove Street, they could do the same.

Maybe even more so with that beside the library because that's not RMST. That's the MS districts, which there is no minimum requirement according to their articles. There is no minimum even with the new I think we can't continue to put you know just just pack all these homes in. Yeah, I totally agree with you on that.

I mean we've just got to you know I think the easiest changes to start with is maybe even looking at some of our minimum lot size requirements. One thing I asked Tyler before the meeting to look at is so if you look at the uh Main Street district, so if we look online, it almost makes you think that you could put 24 units. What's the height limit? 24 units on an acre. What's the height limit as far as how high they can build those condos? You have to have a height. There's not a height. I don't know that there is a

in other words they can build they can build a five stories house. We should have a height limit on anything. I think that more falls under a building code. Yeah. It's not they still have to have to be allowed under our zoning as to how high it should be an ordinance telling you how high the condo should be or how many stories and and you got to take care of your parking the whole infrastructure. It's pretty fast to have to come in and change something. Well, we're not ready to do it. We're not changing anything tonight. It's just a public hearing. I understand. But what you're recommending to for the public hearing is what you're going to be talking about at that. I mean, so whatever your requirements will be, that's what the folks will be coming up talking about the life cycles.

And you also need to include how high how mean how high how high how high can you build condos or apartments? We have no that needs to be included in with what we're doing next. Maybe it needs to be looked at. I'm not sure. I'd have to go back and look. Maybe it is in there. I don't know. I didn't I wasn't looking specific.

Well, I mean, my thing is change, you're talking about this and you you you're saying you'd like to see bigger on the than on the minimum lot size. You want to see it bigger. So, right the way I'm understanding you're talking. So I mean4 I mean for me I mean I would almost say you know you make that 10,890 square ft that gives you a true SFR4. You said 10,000 what? 8.90. So it sounds like if we acre lot

like what mayor just said I mean we're coming back and we're talking about changing it to 8725. Why don't we take it send it back to the planning board and tell them to make it or to investigate into 10890. that way. I guess my question, Tyler, is if we set the public hearing and we, you know, after that public hearing, the council says, "Hey, we don't, you know, 8725 is too small. We want to make that 109, right? Or 10890,

what uh I mean, I don't know that that would necessarily have to go back to the zoning board after we've had a public hearing. on what you're advertising public hearing for. Yeah, I mean he's it makes sense. We're advertising for 8725, but if you're wanting to change it to 10890, then it sounds like it needs to be set for 10890 tonight direction tonight to say, hey, you know, revise this. The zoning board recommended this, but we're looking at, you know, could potentially be leave or change it to 10890. Yeah. So, so I see what you're saying. Set a public hearing. It could be 8 8725 or it could possibly get move up to 10 89. You have to specify. Yeah,

it makes sense to make the make the lots bigger and because that way they're on top of each other and that's why we want to stay away from I would think that if you are setting the public hearing you're setting it to address the topics that are listed and so you've got recommendations from the planning board. Those are not doesn't necessarily mean we have to stick to those, right? But you probably couldn't then go beyond the topics that are in highlighted there and start reading as long as we stick to the SFR4 which we've setting it for necessarily go into others.

I would like to double check that and let Tyler know and I'll respond. My my thought, my instinct is what you've been asked to is to consider minimum lot size in the Main Street residential transition district and also minimum front setback. So you've got you've got some recommendations from the planning board, but those are just recommendations on this board.

Council has the final say in any that's right. the however procedurally the topic has to go through your planning board and they have to make a recommendation. So if as long as you're sticking to the topics that the planning board then you can vary from that would be that would be my expectation as to what's allowed. I I'd like to review that and just kind of confirm that with Tyler that would be sort of where I would where my head is. This is this meeting would have been set for October what 18th or what would you say that date was? 14 14 14 that's not a bad idea to go ahead and set the public hearing, you know, with their guidance, but it's up to the council to have the final say on what lot size will be.

Right. I I wouldn't change the date of the public hearing because you're already in September. No, I mean I you know I would prefer to set the public hearing tonight. Yeah. by way of motion and include whether it be 8725 or the potential to go up to 10890 specifically for the SFR4 right now and the and the uh RMST.

That way the citizens have something to look at. Citizen has something to look at and also potential contractors whatever they could all it all be updated as to what what might might take place. Then I would also like to give the city manager direction to let's start looking at possibly some of the SFR2 SFR3s and that Main Street district which is a potential concern as well as you know and maybe we can change this 1600 that's not part of this but it is part of of what we're looking at. So you've given direction on that. You're want to set public hearing.

As far as both those two square foot majority of the board agrees with, hey, that's the direction I think we need to to move to start limiting some of the the overcrow overcrowd possibility possibility of over overcrowding and how we need to look at the sfr2. Ultimately, I think we need to look at the multi-use as well because if you look at, you know, there's several lots right now that, you know, we have an MU, I believe it's MU2 that uh are empty that could potentially, you know, a substantial amount of town homes could go on

if that's what they chose to do. It's multi-use or even homes. I mean, there's no stick to that. Mr. Attorney, are you familiar with the the height of like apartments or condos that we have an or that you know? I don't I don't know if the They can go to They can go up five stories high. I guess ordinance addresses. What's the limit? You know, Tom, they don't have a limit. Not to my knowledge. That's something that needs to be looked into. If you look, it doesn't, you know, it shows principal setbacks. We've got minimum lot size. We've got uh street setbacks right away. Yeah. Rear setbacks. There's no

we have number of parking spaces on condos, apartments, whatever. Slow a lot of it down. Yeah. Accessories. I mean, it's got a lot of that listed and it may list it in there somewhere. I don't know. I did not look for that. If you want to go ahead and set it. Mo most zoning ordinances would certainly have height as one of the criteria that's regulated. So, but I don't we don't have anything in there. A lot of these stuff they just slipped in. They went wild like put four houses on this MS. Some of the direction that we give you for some of the others that we look at SFR2, SFR3, all of them main street especially because you can build you can build five story apartments, but you guys still have to meet the criteria. How many?

Well, height. I'm just talking about heightwise. Even all of us. You got a big challenge ahead of you. It's And it's high time that we take action on this because no one's happy about groceries. I know that. I've not heard no one say they're happy about four houses on one lot. Dangerous. And this house out here on Philip Street where you can back out out in Philip Street. Just back just roll out the road. It's crazy. But maybe, yeah, this would be a step in the right direction. Shane, I think it'd be perfect to go ahead and set the public hearing for that part if that's your motion to do so or your

So, just to be clear, are we setting the public hearing for the proposed sizes? Are we are we setting the public hearing for the 10 890? I'm going to make a motion that it could range from 8725 to Okay. 10890. 10890. It may be that the majority of the board says 875. Okay. It may be that you know they say hey 10890 which would be the true SFR 4 which is 4 acres four houses per acre. Okay.

But it will strictly be the the motion will strictly be for the SFR4 details that we're looking at and the RMST. I think we you've got the numbers, but really the motion is to consider changes to the minimum lot size and the front setback in those two zoning districts pursuant to the recommendations from or and up to the numbers discussed. Yeah. Yeah. But really what's going to be before the council is reviewing the standards in the current zoning ordinance on minimum lot size and front side. Can y I can hear you guys. Sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry.

It's being taped, isn't it? It is, but I have a hard time hearing you when it's taped. Maybe look at it after. I do. I just It's going to be hard to go back restate what this October 14. I think that's a great suggestion. We need to we need to hear to what you're speaking about and make this town like it used to be. We used to have great big lots and beautiful houses. And I know growth and things like that. We don't need to we don't need to be a part of making people money. We want to be a part of how how how wonderful it is to live here.

And I think we need to revisit this just for another reason. Our infrastructure. We don't want to outgrow it. Right. You're smart. That's a very That's the smartest thing I've heard in a while. That's good infrastructure.

With that, I'll make a motion to set a public hearing for uh article 8 text amendment pertaining to SFR4 minimum lot size. Uh currently at 7,800, recommended by the zoning board at 8725. And that may increase possibly up to 10,890. Uh, as well as the minimum rear yard setbacks. What's the minimum right now on a setback on the back? Let me finish this question.

As well as uh the standards for RMST zoning district uh for the minimum lot size and minimum setbacks. So that's your motion. That's my motion. Okay, we have a second. Second motion by Mr. Robinson, second by Mr. Bates. Now we're having discussion. What's the minimum setbacks on the back? Right now it's 5 ft. What's it going to if if it passes on? Well, this this is recommended at 4T, but as far as that change, but so that's good. At least we we can bring it to the table and have a public hear and let let folks understand what what they're what we're talking.

Yeah. Yeah. And that's for the SFR4. The RMST minimum right now is 12. Proposed is 20. Is that the rear or the front? That's for the street. I'm sorry. From the street is 12, right? Yeah, that's from the street. 20 about 20 from the street. That's still pretty close. But anyway, at least we're moving in the right direction. That's a motion to second. Uh, any more discussion? All in favor? Thank you. That's a good motion. All right. So, we're working hard. Let's see. Next thing is a consideration of budget amendment number four. Do you have that, Tyler? I do. Yes, sir. Go ahead.

Uh consideration budget member number four. This budget amendment number four is to move funds from the POW bill fund balance to pay for repairs and paving to city streets. Um we did have to hire a uh surveyor to uh research uh B Street uh which is off Highway 7. It was discovered that uh B Street was never deed to the city. So paving of B Street was removed uh from the project list and during that time we added River Garden, Meadowwoods uh to the paving projects of the city streets. So once you get the survey and then you can go back and revisit play Street or B Street, I'm sorry. Yeah.

Okay. That was one of my questions was that uh according to the most recent POW bill map, I guess we've been getting pow bill money for B Street. But you're saying it was never deed to the that Yeah. Upon re upon research, it was discovered that B Street was never deed over to the city. But we are looking at getting that deed to the city or No, that's why he's hiring a surveyor, right? Yeah. Well, we h we've got the survey. We've hired the surveyor to ser to have this property surveyed. I have not received a copy of the survey yet uh for this street. So therefore, we took it off and added two additional streets. Yeah. Yeah. For now. Correct.

So once you get the survey and they can once they get the survey in, you'll be able to to create a street. Correct. If it meets all the boundaries and stuff possibly. Yes. those two street. My question is those two streets, River Garden and Meadow Woods. Is that Tell me exactly where those are at. Um what neighborhoods? River. Yeah, River Falls. And how old is River? River Falls. What I'm saying is

actually Meadowwoods is newer than River Falls Drive. Meadowwoods come in. What I'm getting at is them two streets are not that old. Why hadn't we looked at other side streets? I think they from my understanding they they rode the city and and determined and graded them. Uh who's they? The public works. They determined uh what streets were needed to be paved and and um I guess upon their determination, River Garden and Meadow Woods was uh scored low enough on the scale to be paved. But I can follow up and get the information. I would rather follow up as those are newer streets than what some of these older streets around here that

that I've seen look pretty bad. Right. I always I haven't seen a list. Do you have a list? I mean, I have seen a list. There was one at one time with the list of the ones that we voted to at the last meeting to to do the funds. Do we have $170,000? Can you send that to the board? I Yeah, I'll um I think it was sent out originally, but I'll follow back up with it. I agree with Mr. Chair, but I think that before you when you have a a group of streets uh allocated or paid and if you make changes, the council should be informed as to what you're doing. Well, I he is telling me that he's wanting to go with River Garden and Metal Woods, but I don't agree with those streets being his newer development than what

I don't know how you can bridge street, Oak Street, all down through that way, all up that way, the other side of number seven. We have I think we allocated $170,000, but once you change streets like that, I'm sure the numbers change. Yes, sir. You need to have at least two bids for everything that we do. I mean it's it's fair. Are you saying table this? I would say table it before um I mean are they is this funds that has to be paid to them immediately or because of I think just my opinion would be that we would remove B Street but not add any other streets. Okay. In order to do that I think she would probably have to have a new

budget amendment. how much you're really spending yet. And I can get all I can get all the information as far as you can have that ready for next meeting, right? Yeah. All right. I'll just I can go ahead and I get it to you beforehand. I I say table it until the next meeting and and but I agree with Shane since it's not B Street is is can't be done. Then let's check on I don't I don't have a problem doing other streets, but let's check on some of the older streets in the city versus some of these newer developments. Okay. And is there a possibility that B Street will be needed in the future? That I don't know. Well, why are we spending money to survey if we're not

Because we were going to pay because we were going to pay be street and we were trying to find the boundaries and the points to where we were going to. It's a good idea to go ahead and survey it and see if we can get the criteria to meet what is we have surveyed it. Okay. Do you have a copy for us? That's why I'm saying I haven't received a copy of the survey yet. You've not paid them, right? We need a copy of as soon as we can get it. I appreciate it. All right. Any Let's see. So, we're tableing that. That's good. All right, next thing will be the city manager report.

Yeah. So, uh they did start on the roofing project at the rec center today. Um I think it should last uh roughly two weeks in order to get that completed. Um I did have a meeting today with the firm to look at the public works site to go over um the specs that we currently we currently had from previous uh planning. Um we kind of we tweaked it a little bit. um they're going to go back and update the plans that they have and submit those back. Um I'm going to have another follow-up meeting with the updated plans at the end of the month. Um then I will be presenting those that information to you. Um and lastly, the clock parts have arrived at city hall. I'm just waiting for the installation uh for when they're going to come out and install it.

Yeah, schedule. That's right. So be about two weeks, right? Yeah. That's all I've got. All right. The at Mr. Attorney, you have anything? I do not. Mr. Robinson. Uh, the only thing is do do we need a motion to table that or as far as the budget amendment? No. Okay. Other than that, I don't have anything. Mr. Bates. No, sir. Mr. Chwood. I've got a couple things. I I told the meeting the meeting is going to last less than 23 minutes. So, I hope so. I want to know what what the status is on the ballpark. Um Tyler, as far as what are we doing on how much money we spent for admin fees and where are we how much money is left to be spent at the ballpark?

I can get I don't have the admin fees off the top of my head, but I can get that information. What have we got scheduled to start as far as doing some, you know, making some improvements out there? Yeah. And that those are all improvements of to Herald ranking that we're going to make. adding the splash pad, adding the pickle ball court, uh resurfacing the existing basketball court, and then keeping it as a full court. That's good. Yes. Repurposing one of the fields out there.

It's been over. We've been on this board almost two years, and we we met I think the first meeting after we got sworn in to talk with those people out there and we've done nothing about it. Another thing I want to talk about is POW bill money. If we want to name that ballpark, we make it a street, you know, where the like where the parking area and still we could have a street through it and still have access, you know, parking on each side and then we could take money out of POW bill and pave that, you know, where the streets never been where the parking lot's never been paved. We could make a street out of the ballpark property. Name it whatever you want to call ballpark boulevard. I don't care. But that way you can that way you can access parking spaces on each side. And the city would be within its limits to uh to use power bill money and not have to use taxpayers money. I'm talking about inhouse city taxpayers money to pave that street. And it's long overdue that be paved out there. Especially with the improvements and the pickle ball courts. I mean in the in the gym we've acquired. it makes sense to have parking because at the at the old boys and girls club you have you virtually have no parking but we got to come, you know, to our senses and get some of these things done. I'm not fussing up. I'm just saying that's something we can do and it's legal to do that. If we name if we have a street out there, we can name any any street that we wanted to. Correct, Mr. Attorney? We have enough property to name like you can drive through off of what's it called? The little circle.

Park Circle. Park Circle and turn on to Ballpark Boulevard and go down the road on each side. Have two two lanes and exit out there beside the Boys and Girls Club. But in and the side of that, you'd have Apple Parking on each side and that would free up some money without having to raise money from the general fund to do what what should have been done past ever since we've had the ballpark. That's just a suggestion, but that's something you can bring up for us and maybe get some prices, Tyler, to as far as how much it would cost out of power bill money to do that.

And and I have another thing to bring up as far as what Mr. K is over where we're trying to do the military thing for our military. We can have a, you know, a club like where we can have meetings for our for our veterans. And we've done nothing about it. But it shouldn't, you know, we should have Tyler maybe. I think Tyler has I mean, Mr. Kato has a couple people that he's got on that he's working with. And maybe we can let Tyler or vote for Tyler to sit down, meet with them, see what it would cost to to have this because it's long over here. We have nothing for our veterans and that's male and female. Doesn't matter, but our veterans to have a place to meet. And I think that, you know, I don't know what the mo what the motion should be. How how would you to make to where we can get something started? Just make a motion to meet with Mr. Kato and his staff or his committee to to come up with something to to do this. We got the we got the community center have they have ample places to meet and it shouldn't cost that much money. But I understand they want to do a military wall in in the future out here with all of our veterans, not just the Vietnam vets, but every veteran we've ever had in Louisville. And that way we can honor all of our vets. And I think that's long overdue. And but it's up to the council to approve it. But is that something you just want to think about or would y'all be willing to vote on it tonight and do that?

I would not until I heard all aspects of it. You talked about wanting to do a military wall out here. Yeah. where wherever they that Mr. uh Kato and his staff are wanting to come up with some kind of idea to honor all of our military vets. Say if you want to put it out here and then we end up 6 18 years building new city hall, what's going to happen to the wall? And if we don't, but I'm not going to argue with you about I'm just saying we need to argue he's making a comment. I'm just saying I just want to I just want to get something started. We we've been here almost two years

and you know we and Mr. educated to the highest decorated Vietnam soldier in state, second highest in the state of North Carolina. He's willing to take this undertaken on. So, we need to support him, all of us, and come up with something. I I'm not saying build it here. Wherever you build it, at least bring him in, let Tyler and him get some dialogue started as to what we're going to do. Because if we don't do anything, just like there's nothing been done so far, there's no reason for it not to change. Yeah. I mean, this first I've heard about it and I would say Mr. Ko come talk with Tyler. That be good. I mean, they can sit down and then Tyler could present something to us if they council

approves that. Then he can he can take it on on on his own to bring Mr. Kato in and have a meeting with them. They can come back with the board some ideas and we can all look at it. But yeah, but I don't think we have to vote for him to meet with Ko. KO can come meet with him and if they come up something then he could bring it before the board. Right. There's there's not a vote for us for KO to meet with him. Okay. So, you're giving him the authority to go out and meet with Mr. Kato, correct? We don't have to have to have our authority. Mr. Ko needs to come sit down and talk with Tyler. I'm not saying send Tyler out to Mr. Ko. If this is something Mr. Ko is interested in, this is

then he needs to bring it to the city manager and approach him with it. Right. All the municipalities around us, you know, I don't know about Mac, but Karton, Belmont, they have like what is it? A club they meet at and and but some like a VFW. Yeah, VFW. Something like that. That's something that' be up to VFW to do, wouldn't it? Not Not the It would be nice to have it for most of these clubs are not tied to Yeah. They're not tied to the city. I'm talking about those cities. They have If you're talking about creating a committee to to make a build a wall or something like that

also happens to where Mr. Kato and get all these all the military team out of town. We have a lot of vets are still living, but no one ever we don't ever have anything, you know, nowhere to meet with them. That's Kato's idea was to, you know, start this thing. And I think I thought, you know, we're in agreement is to have something like that. I wouldn't see no reason why we shouldn't. I don't we don't want a VFW. We know we're not big enough for that, but we we should we have a community center where they can meet once a month or once a quarter or whatever and talk about what they need to talk about and keep us informed as to what's going on in our town with our military. I don't I don't see anything wrong with that, but you got to start somewhere.

Well, and like well, like Mr. B just said, have KO to come meet with Tyler and we'll get the ball rolling from there. That's good. I'll let Mr. Kato know to come up and meet with Tyler. That's good. Tell them to give him a call and set a date and they'll go meet and they'll go from there. We'll go from there.

Okay. And another thing I'm going to bring up now, I'm not I want the the town to understand this. I'm not running for city council. I'm I'm on the ballot. I can't take my name off the ballot, but I don't want to be a part of this. I'm not putting out any political signs or anything like that. I'm not going to be seeking city council seat. I'm going stay on as the mayor and try to get things done the best we can, but I don't want to interfere in the council race to where it has effect on our city because I think we got good people running. I know I got some good people that I want to support and I will support and that's that's what I'm going to do. I mean, we have former C our council member here tonight and also uh Miss Weaver and people like that that need an opportunity. All the candidates, Mr. Ryan, all of them, Tommy, all all the people that's running. But what we want to do is have a good, fair, open election to where people can vote. And I don't want to be a hindrance to it. I don't want to be involved in causing someone's election cuz God knows I love Shane Robinson like my own my own child and I want to see him stay forever. But anything I can do to help our town in any way, that's what I want to do. But I will not be seeking the council seat. I'm sorry I'm on the ballot. I don't even I wish I'd never done it. But anything and uh and that's all I have. And uh so I guess we just need to have a motion to adjourn.

Make a motion we adjourn. Have a second. Second. All in favor. Thank you. And thanks to all of you coming out. Thank Thank you. We get we make it. We get out for 23 minutes on the tournament here. Thank you. Tell me what you're thinking about.