Public Safety Committee - Regular Meeting

All right, good morning.

Good morning. This is the Friday, July 31st docket, Louisville Metro Code Enforcement Board. My name is Chris Whatlin. I am a member of the board. I will be hearing cases this morning along with fellow board members, Ms. Christine Schneider seated to my right and Ms. Pam Waddell seated to my left. With us in the hearing room today is our coordinator, which is Mr. Devron Abrams, who will be calling cases and recording today's proceedings. I also have Ms. Laken Barnett as Code Enforcement Supervisor who will be presenting case summaries, facts, and findings. Officer Tim Close over here at the far right will be providing security for us here at the Oak Jail facility this morning. I'm also joined by Assistant County Attorney, the Honorable Michael Spinlon. I also have representing the Board, the Honorable Haley Keene. There might be additional individuals participating in your case and we will identify them and swear them in as needed. We are operating today virtually as within the KRS guidelines for open records meetings. At the onset, I want to clarify the role of the board and scope of today's proceedings. The board is an administrative board of limited jurisdiction. We are here only to consider appeals of the specific citations that have been properly docketed for today. We cannot hear matters that are not on today's docket, and we do not address unrelated disputes or complaints. The Board does not interpret the law or provide legal advice. Our function is to act as a fact finder and determine, based on the evidence presented, whether the conditions existed at the time of the inspection to support the issuance of a citation under the applicable Metro ordinances. I will read the following one time and one time only. It will apply to all cases heard here today, whether in person or virtually. All participants must be sworn in before speaking. Please wait to be sworn in by Ms. Keene. and before you do so. Once sworn, you are speaking under oath and your testimony is a part of public record. This is a official proceeding. Any false statement you make can be referred by this board for prosecution for either perjury or for false swearing. While these proceedings are less formal than a court of law, the board will consider relevant and reliable evidence and will continue to determine the credibility and weight to be given to that evidence. Please do not interrupt others while they are speaking. I will ensure that everyone who has something relevant, relevant, relevant to say, you will get a chance to speak. You may not have a chance to say it if someone else is speaking. Just make a note in your mind that once they're finished speaking, you can go ahead and say what you need to say as long as it's respectful. If at any time things get out of hand, I will cease all communications until order is restored. After hearing from both the county and from the appellant, the board will determine whether to uphold the citation and any associated fine. The board also has the discretion based on the evidence to adjust the fine or to conditionally discharge it. Each case is decided on its own facts and merit and prior outcomes do not control the results in any other case. Once again, the board cannot provide legal advice to any party. When your case is finished, wait for a staff member to give you a copy of today's order if you're participating here at the old jail facility. If you're appearing virtually, a copy will be mailed to your address of record that's held by the Jefferson County Property Evaluation Administration. With that being said, Mr. Abrams, can we hear any pre-conference cases?

ENF-PMNT-24-010071-11, 1518 West Market Street. ENF-PMNT-26-012927-1 4217 LaSalle Avenue ENF-PMNT-26-011612-1 323 East Southside Court ENF-PMNT-26-010653-2 3210 Elaine Drive ENF-PMNT-24-019092-5, 5300 Juanita Lane. ENF-PMNT-24-001347-18, 2008 West Jefferson Street. ENF-PMNT-26-009018-3, 1822 West Jefferson Street. NF-PM&T-25-023219-11, 3410 Garland Avenue. NF-PM&T-26-010465-2, 1371 Vim Drive. NF-PM&T-26-010465-3, 1371 Vim Drive. ENF-PMNT-25-014504-5, 10,003 National Turnpike. ENF-PMNT-26-003022-6, 2517 Grand Avenue. ENF-PMNT-26-011686-2, 8205 Preston Highway. ENF-PMNT-26-011685-28203 Preston Highway ENF-PMNT-26-006364-5 1020 West Whitney Avenue ENF-PMNT-26-011191-2 1008 Plotted Way NF-PMNT-26-012937-1, 3012 Virginia Avenue. NF-PMNT-26-005546-3, 1316 Earl Avenue. NF-PMNT-26-003307-8, 1330 South 6th Street, Unit 5. ANF-PMNT-26-011067-1, 2404 Lamar Avenue, and ANF-PMNT-26-006552-3, 3408 Chauncey Avenue.

Okay, hearing no additional input relative to these pre-conference cases, I hereby uphold these pre-conference orders. All right, ladies and gentlemen, good morning. Again, my name is Chris Wantland. I'll be hearing cases along with my fellow board members this morning. I'll give you a quick rundown of how things will run. We will call your case by the case number as well as the address. I'll listen for the address once your case is called. If you will come up to the podium where you will be sworn in by Ms. Keene. If any time you need to leave, just let Officer Close know. If you need to go feed the meter, take a phone call, use restroom. That way, if, God forbid, we call your case while you're gone, you're not here, we'll recall your case when you get back in here. Basically, the way it will work, you'll come up, it'll be up to the county, which is Mr. Spinlaw and Ms. Burnett, on behalf of Code Enforcement, to present their case. After that will be your chance to present your case. We'll take everything presented into consideration. After that, we will make a decision. I will let you know, and I say it every week, it's my same speech, I am not here to take your money. I am not here to take your money. I'm here for your compliance. And if I can't get your compliance, I'm going to take your money. And once I get in your pocket, I'm not going to get out of your pocket until I get compliance. So as long as you're working with me, you're making a concerted effort to improve your property and correct these violations, that's on you. You decide if I take your money or not. So as long as you're working with me, I'll work with you. If you need more time, I'll give you more time, as long as you're working on it. If you try to BS me, you try to lie to me, you try to make excuses, or you just sit on your butt and do nothing, guess what? I will take your money, and I'll keep taking money. And at some point in time, you're going to have a massive lien on your property, and it might even get foreclosed. Who knows? So let's not go there. So if you're here with an LLC, if you're here with an estate, if you're here with any business entity, you must, must, must have an attorney with you here today. If you don't, and this is your first trip here, you'll get a one-time 30 days to get an attorney in here with you. If not, I can't hear any testimony from you because the Kentucky Supreme Court has determined you must be represented in any of those, you know, LLCs, estates or something must be, you know, represented by an attorney. If not, it's pretty much a done deal. I'm sorry. So with that being said, let's go ahead and call our first case.

ENF-PMNT-24-013459-10, 3321 Market Street.

Good morning, Danielle Tackett on behalf of the property owner. Good morning, Ms. Tackett.

Good morning, Ms. Tackett. And who do you have here with you today?

This is Amber Clark on behalf of the property owner.

Okay, and she'll be testifying? Yes. All right, ma'am, can you step to the podium, please? Yes. State your name again for the record. Amber Clark. Raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth? I do. Thank you. Lakin. State your name for the record. Lakin Barnett. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth? Yes, I do. Thank you.

On 4-21-2026, the 10th visit to the property, a $700 penalty was placed for no compliance on exterior surfaces originally cited 8-8-2024, no compliance for windows originally cited 8-8-2024, We returned to the property on 7-27-2026 and found no compliance on the exterior surfaces, no compliance on the windows, and I'll get you photos in just a second. Here we have exterior surfaces with rotted wood, chipping, peeling paint. Another photo with rotted wood, dilapidated exposed wood, chipping, peeling paint. Here are broken glass windows. And then missing windows, more dilapidated rotted wood, chipping, peeling paint, and damaged surfaces. That's all we have at this time.

And I will submit that these photographs establish the conditions of the citation as they exist at the time of the citation, as they still exist, and I'll reserve any questions for the appellant.

Thank you very much. So in our initial appearance, the property was still not yet in my client's name. That deed has now been properly recorded. So it is in their name and they are committed to the full rehab. The estimate of the work that they have had quoted and are preparing to start within the next 30 to 45 days has been tendered along with the deed showing that the name has been formally or the ownership has been formally transferred into my client's name. So we would request a brief continuance so that that work can be started.

How long has this been in your client's name?

Since I believe the deed was recorded on 6-16-2026.

At this time, the county would ask for a 60-day continuance for status to see how things are going.

Yes, agreeable. Wow. October 2nd?

Is that good for you, Ms. Tackett?

Yes, it's available on my calendar.

So in the matter of ENF-PMAT-24-013459-10, the address being 3321 Market Street. We're going to pass this to October the 2nd for a status. So you've got your contractor, got everything lined up, and hopefully we'll have some decent weather so You've got a very impressive structure there that needs a lot of TLC. Absolutely. But I will remind you that once they start seeing works being done there, the first thing is, oh, look at all the pretty stuff.

Oh, yeah.

I've had too many lately of where contractors are in there and they leave their supplies, their equipment, everything, and then $50,000, $60,000 later, It's all gone. So just be wary. Thank you. Thank you. Good luck.

I appreciate it. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Have a good day. Next case. ENF-SWMS-26-002242, 8651 Kane Run Road.

Anybody here for 8651 Kane Run Road? Looks like STRS Ohio Industrial Investors. Time is 8.46.

Appellant is not here on their own motion. Was there a fine associated with this gentleman? Hang on.

Can you say your name, please?

Derek White.

And what's your affiliation with the city?

I'm a SWIM enforcement officer.

Thank you. Do you swear to affirm the testimony you're about to give us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Yes.

Do you remember how much the fine was on this?

Yeah, the fine was $1,250. $1,250? Yes, sir.

Was no dissent on this?

Yes, they already paid for it.

Oh, they already paid the fine?

Yes, sir.

Okay, well, then... Yeah, then that's dismissed.

The appeal was... That's right, it swims, yeah.

Okay, so in the matter of ENF-SWMS-26-002242, the address being 8651 Cane Run Road, the fine has been paid. However, they were appealing to try to recover their fine money, so they're not here on their motion, so their motion-slash-appeal is dismissed.

Thank you, John.

Such a hard morning.

ENF-PMNT-21-012130-35, 4113 Muhammad Ali Boulevard. Good morning. I'm Ken Plotnick. I'm here for the...

Property management company, really, and John Schenkenfelder is here as a witness.

Mr. Schenkenfelder, can you please state your name for the record?

John Schenkenfelder.

Do you swear to affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Yes, I do.

Thank you. Parties are sworn.

On 4-27, we have two citations here. I'm going to read both in a row, and then I will read the return visit. On 4-27-2026, the 36th visit to the property, a $700 penalty was placed for no compliance on electrical distribution panel originally cited 7-6-2022. No compliance for property water supply line originally cited 4-14-2025. I will now read the 35th visit. On 4-23-2026, the 35th visit, a $1,200 penalty was placed for no compliance on electrical lighting fixture originally cited 7-6-2022, no compliance for electrical distribution panel originally cited 7-6-2022, no compliance for interior door originally cited 7-6-2022, no compliance for interior surfaces originally cited 7-6-2022, No compliance for property water supply line originally cited 4-14-2025. No compliance for electrical receptacle outlet originally cited 12-6-2022. No compliance for windows originally cited 7-6-2022. We return to the property on 7-27-2026. and found no entry on everything except for the electrical outlet that was found compliant. So we have no photos as we've not been able to gain entry.

In this case, I'll let you all put on your case if you'd like, but we will probably ask for 30 days to get somebody in there just to confirm that everything is fixed.

Can I show Officer Lakin some good pictures just so she's comforted by this?

Yeah, we'll see what we got.

Here's a new hot water tank.

Here's the electrical service. We had electricians go through the home and make sure it was safe. Here's the tub that's been resurfaced. There's another window that's been locked.

They opened and closed all the windows.

Made repairs. Here's the water running in the tub. That was okay. The window was repaired. There's an open window.

All right.

Let's just get them in there. I mainly want them to check the windows in the basement. Everything else looks pretty decent.

While Lincoln does that, we are going to ask for 30 days just to get an inspector in there to confirm that everything is taken care of.

Oh, yeah, yes, absolutely. I was going to ask was. Oh, okay.

Yeah, so I'll just. I mean, it looks like.

Looks like data. It's fun. Yeah, that's okay.

We agree with the 30 days to get an inspector in there for it. So in the case of ENF-PMNT-21-012130-35 and 36, we're going to take this out to August 28th to get the inspector in there to give a final blessing on it. Thank you.

They said something about the basement window.

Are you also doing Kensington Partners also?

Yes, ma'am.

Okay. Do we want to go ahead and call those also?

Great.

Hang on a second. And then we've got 1336 Street also.

Number five was conditionally discharged.

Yeah, three additional on top of this one. Yeah.

It was discharged. Here's the... Unit 5.

Unit 5 was discharged. Okay. Okay. So then it's just the 2, the 3rd Street and the 6th Street that we still need to hear?

1114 South 1st Street.

That's further down. Okay. 1340 3rd Street and 1336th Street.

Yes, ma'am. Correct.

ENF-PMNT-22-010702-49, 1340 3rd Street.

I'll just note again for the record that Mr. Schenkenfelter has been sworn in.

On 4-1-2026, the 49th visit to the property, a $600 penalty was placed for no compliance on public nuisance for raw trash overflowing at the dumpster originally cited since 4-1-2026. We return to the property on 7-27-2026. Excuse me. Let me reread that citation. On the 49th visit, a $600 penalty was placed for public nuisance originally cited 401-2026 and no compliance for roofing and or gutter materials originally cited 11-11-2025. We returned to the property on 7-27-2026, found compliance on that public nuisance for the trash at the dumpster and no compliance on the roofing gutters or downspout materials. I'll get you photos of what remains in just a second.

Here we have some soffit with holes and dilapidated wood. At the bottom of this photo here you'll see the end of the downspout is disconnected.

This is more holes in the box gutter soffiting.

These are not part of the citation. This was just a photo of some debris that was laying around.

Up by the stairs there, you'll see the end of the downspout is not properly installed, and that's all the photos we have at this time.

And to clarify, the debris photos, those are not part of the citation, correct? It's just the roofing and the gutters?

Somewhat. So originally the debris was cited for the dumpster under a different code, so we are not on for that, but it still does need some cleaning. Yes. Okay.

I will submit these photographs to establish the conditions of the citation as they exist. Exist at the time of the citation as they still exist as to the gutters and downspouts. I'll reserve any questions for the appellant. I will state that we are on for total compliance today in this case.

Go ahead, sir.

Thank you. I do have a lot of photos of this building where we are working very hard to get these soffits back together. I know there's debris on the ground. They probably stopped in as we're doing repair, and all that's been removed. I'm happy to show you all the photos you like. I'm not sure who I'm talking to. Who do I need to show?

We'd love to look at them. It's a very large building. I mean, it's how many apartments? 40, 50?

I think I know where this building is. And it is a big building. It kind of reminded me of like a school or something.

Yeah, I think I know where this building is. And it is a big, yeah, it's a big, big building.

It's an old Louisville.

Smart ass. Oh my gosh.

I'd have to look it up on the map. It's at an intersection. And I know where this building is. It's a beautiful building. It's a beautiful building.

Yeah. This building is quiet. I mean, you've got pizza and Yeah.

It was the pride of the street once.

I know. I always hated that the UofL students always lived in the prettiest. I know.

Thurton Park.

Thank you.

Thurton Park.

What's the name of the place?

City that's a beautiful, beautiful building.

Do you guys want to see all of those?

These are all supposed to be built just to Broadway management.

I can't watch.

All right. In this case, we are on for total compliance, and it is not fully in compliance. They have done significant work. We will acknowledge that. But since it's not on for total compliance, just to keep with our precedent, we would ask that at least a portion of the fine be upheld in this case.

How many units are in this building?

That's not on there. Yeah, 49 visits.

Would it help if I showed her some photos?

You're welcome to if you'd like to.

Yeah, let me take a look at them, yeah.

They're currently... Painting all these windows.

There's no holes in the soffit. I know there was a photo, it looked really dark. I see all these windows are painted.

What's the date on these photos?

Yesterday.

Okay.

Here's across the front.

All the dental movements have been repaired. More. Fixing the drain pipe.

Yeah. Fixing the drain pipe.

Painting the windows. I got some good ones in the spring.

What's the plan on what's remaining?

Do you have somebody coming in?

They're here every day. Okay. We're making the corner. We're making the turn. It's all painted. Making a lot of effort.

We can get it done by this other date.

You think you can get it done by. 600 for this.

That's what I'm saying. It's a girl's call. I know. I know. If you want to uphold it, you can uphold it.

It isn't done. We're making the turn, spraying and painting all this off. We're very close to finishing this whole building.

Yes, we would move to continue it to the 28th. I know it was on for total compliance, but it's a giant building. It's got 30 units. It's three stories. A lot of work has been put into it, and we're almost done with it anyway.

We have very affordable rents there as well, if that helps.

After discussing and listening and seeing pictures and everything, again, we were on for total compliance today, and we do appreciate and understand everything that you have done, and it is a huge building. But I am going to have to uphold the citation, but I am going to conditionally discharge $400 of the fine, so the fine will be $200.

Thank you.

So in the case of ENF-PMNT-22-010702-49, address being 1343rd Street, we're going to uphold the citation and conditionally discharge $400 of the fine. Thank you.

$200 anywhere, Stu?

ENF-PMNT-22.

Sorry for the confusion. It says, Pell, the $400 is conditionally discharged.

Yeah, conditionally discharged $400 of the fine, so you still have $200 that are paid.

The $200 isn't on the document.

Okay, I wrote it on there. That's mine.

NF dash payment e dash 22 dash 0, 1, 5, 6, 6, 9 dash 4, 0, 1330 South 1336 street. And parties aren't even sworn in on 3, 25, 20, 26, the 40th visit to the property, a $600 penalty was placed.

For no compliance on interior surfaces originally cited 6-13-2025. No compliance on exterior door originally cited 3-17-2026. No compliance on exterior surfaces originally cited 6-13-2025. No compliance for roofing gutters or downspouts originally cited 6-13-2025. No compliance for exterior fire escape or stairs originally cited 8-13-2025. We returned to the property on 7-27-2026. We found partial compliance on the interior surfaces, no compliance on the exterior surfaces, no compliance on the roofing and or gutter materials. I'll get you photos of what remains in just a moment.

So here we have some more box gutters with dilapidated wood.

This is exterior surfaces with rotted, dilapidated wood, chipping, peeling paint. It's not part of the citation. More box gutters with holes in dilapidated wood. More box gutters with dilapidated wood. This is the interior surfaces that was marked as partial. Not part of the citation. That's all the photos we have at this time.

I will submit that these photographs establish the conditions of the citation as they existed at the time of the citation as they still exist. I will reserve any questions to the appellant. I will also state that this one is on for status, not for total compliance.

Okay, so we moved you over here. So what is your plan for this property?

I've got a bunch of photos of progress. There's... 10 holes on the soffit. We've repaired seven. And they're taking a picture of that south corner.

That photo they took is the same corner, essentially.

And we're making a repair on that next. It's a big corner. And that back where the peel and paint were close. If I could have to August 28th, I think I can have it done.

When you say done, that's total compliance. So August 28th, total compliance?

It could have to October then.

It's a lot of work.

That will be fine with us. 60 days for total compliance, I think will be fine.

So we go with October 28th for total compliance.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay. What was the date?

October 28th.

October 2nd.

October 2nd.

See what you did there?

October 2nd, okay. Okay. Okay. In the case of ENF PMNT 22-015 669-40 at 1336th Street, we're going to come back on October 2nd for total compliance.

Thank you.

We have another one, right? Oh, that was also 1336th Street. So do I need to read that in? Okay, so an ENF PMNT 26-003307-8, 1336 Street. No, no, no, that's 65. That's Conditioning Discharge. Disregard that one. I got that one. There's only one 6th Street?

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I only need to read one. I read that one. Okay, we're good. Okay.

1114, what is the address? 1114 South First.

Do you all have another one on? 1114 South First.

1703 Herbert. Oh, we have two on.

The other one?

I've never heard this, Herbert.

Did you say the 1114 First Street?

Yes, ma'am. We'll call that one first.

NF-PMNT-26-005333-41114 First Street.

Mr. Schakenfelder, just to clarify, what's your position with the LLC?

Property manager. Okay.

On 7-1-2026, the fourth visit to the property, a $500 penalty was placed for no compliance on exterior doors originally cited 4-2-2026. No compliance for roofing and or gutter material originally cited 6-11-2026. No compliance for stair or fire escape exterior originally cited 4-21-2026. We returned to the property on 7-28-2026 and found no compliance on the exterior door. No compliance on the stair fire escape. The roofing and gutters was not part of this citation. I'll get you photos in just a moment. So here we have the front door window is removed and there's a board on top of it. Here is some plexiglass that is broken with a board on the door. Here is some more box gutters with chipping peeling paint. It appears there may be some holes in the soffits. More dilapidated box gutters, chipping, peeling paint. More dilapidated soffit with chipping, peeling paint. This is the stair and fire escape in the rear that is dilapidated with rotted wood and missing spindles.

Can I make a quick note to that? That's not our property, that picture.

This one?

Yeah. The neighbor boarded the fire escape. I'll get to that.

These are all the same photographs. Are you sure if this is the same fire escape as that photo?

Yes, I can clarify this.

Okay. We're good. Go ahead and clarify, please.

The two buildings, 1114 and 1116, were built and owned by the same person, and they put the fire escape there. between buildings and they connected them to the building. So the building sold 11, 16, and the owner wants to tear out the fire escape. And he's been boarding up our exit, you know, boarding up the third floor to get out of our tenants apartment. And it's, uh, we've had code enforcement, Kevin, Mr. Dolphin, and, you know, now it's kind of in the, uh, pre-lawsuit stage, but, uh, The repairs have been completed. They were over there yesterday making these repairs. It's kind of a delicate situation because that picture that I said wasn't our property, you have to go on his property to get on the fire escape and get out. So we've told our tenants, don't use the egress on the fire escape as regular use. You can use it as an emergency.

So is yours building the one on the other side of the fence? That is not our property on the right.

So that's boarded there. So the owner, the one on the left is 1114 South 1st. And you have to go on his, it's called a prescriptive easement that we can use to get out if there's an emergency. The owner is boarding up, you know, our door on the third floor so our tenant can't use it. And it's a emailed, you know, back and forth. So I'm just saying that's another issue, but we, we've gone up there and replaced the spindles. I know that's not in the picture and we've made some repair to the fire escape. So it's, it's structurally sound. It's just, we're dealing with this issue with him. As far as the front door, I can get that glass replaced. It was, it just needs to be ordered. If I could get a little more time on that.

we would be fine with 60 days for status and we're going to go 60 days because we want to make sure that that like the door and stuff is getting taken care of. But we understand that that civil matter is probably going to take some time. Yeah.

So maybe we'd go to October 2nd on that one too.

Yeah. That's what we would recommend.

Recommend the status. Yes. At that point. Okay. You go with that October 2nd.

Thank you.

So in the matter of ENF PM&T 26-005333-4 at 1114 First Street, we are going to move that to October 2nd for a status.

Thank you.

We've got Herbert.

ENF-PM&T-26-007896-5, 1703 Herbert Avenue.

Before we start with this case, I just want to note, so the entity that owns the property is Loveland, Ohio, LLC, correct? Yes, ma'am. But the appeal was filed on behalf of Broadway Management. So, Mr. Plotnick, I'm going to turn to you now. Are you representing Loveland, Ohio, LLC, or Broadway Management?

Well, Broadway Management has a management agreement with them, so they handle their

And I noted that they were at the same address. My only issue just is that the appellant does not match the entity that owns the property. And Gregory Popham doesn't, who is...

He is also my client, Mr. Popham. He is? Oh, yes.

Okay. Okay.

I mean, in that case, if this is the attorney for both of them, he should be fine.

Yeah, if you're the attorney of Mr. Popham, too, I know that it's at the same address. Okay, I just wanted to clarify that to make sure that there was standing. So the parties have been sworn in.

On 7-1-2026, the fifth visit to the property, a $600 penalty was placed for no compliance on interior door, originally cited 4-30-2026. No compliance on interior surfaces, originally cited 4-30-2026. No compliance for exterior doors originally cited 4 30 20 26. No compliance for porch or balcony originally cited 4 30 20 26. No compliance for roofing and or gutter materials originally cited 4 30 20 26. We returned to the property on 7 23 20 26 and found no compliance on the interior door, no compliance on the interior surfaces, no compliance on the exterior door,

No compliance on the roofing or gutter material and I'll get you photos in just a moment. Here we have the interior door that is missing the hardware.

Here is interior surfaces where there was a leak. More interior surfaces. And this is also the photo to represent the roofing and gutter as that was cited due to the leak, and this is the damage from the leak. So this shows that it's still in disrepair. That's all we have at this time.

I will submit that these photographs establish the conditions of the citation as they existed at the time of the citation, and as they still exist, and I'll reserve any questions for the appellant.

Have you made any repairs since the...

Yeah. The tenants refusing to let us in the house. So I understand that's what it looks like. There was a leak. We've made a lot of repairs to the roof and they, they took pictures of, of the deck. The, some of the exterior services have been, um, repair the back deck. And, you know, there was a second story deck and we've done all this stuff on the outside. I understand something about a gutter. I hear you. Um, We want to work with this resident, working with the owner, Mr. Potham, as well. If I could have, I think I can get it done by October for total compliance, if possible, and work it out with this resident.

What is your plan to get in there with the resident?

We're going to pass her another notice, another 48-hour notice that we have to come in. And if she doesn't let us in, we'll just file an eviction.

We would be fine with 60 days for total compliance.

Total compliance or status?

It's sometimes hard to get these evictions done. Yeah, I was going to say. Status is fine.

Yeah, just in case they do end up having to do the eviction. Yeah, right.

They can't get in. They can't do the work. We might have a problem.

Yeah, I agree. Let's do status. If you can get it in, get it all done. So in the matter of ENF PMNT 26-007896-5 at 1703 Herbert Avenue, we are going to send this to October 2nd for a status.

Thank you all.

Thank you.

Thank you. What's your next case, sir?

It's close. It's close today.

Fixing old Louisville. NF-PMNT-24-003112-7-2214 Bank Street.

Good morning, sir.

Good morning. I'm Andrew Hoffer, representing Shawnee Baptist Church. Okay.

H-O-F-F-E-R. Okay, awesome. And who do you have here with you today?

Andrew Primo.

Step to the podium, please. You say your name. Please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give us, the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Yes.

Parties are sworn.

Okay.

On 1-15-2026, the seventh visit to the property, a $700 penalty was placed for No compliance on exterior surfaces, originally cited 3-21-2024. No compliance for roofing and or gutter material, originally cited 3-21-2024. No compliance for exterior accessory structure, originally cited 3-21-2024. We returned to the property on 7-27-2026 and found no compliance on the exterior surfaces, no compliance on the roofing or gutter material, and no compliance on the accessory structure. And I'll get you photos of what remains in just a moment. Here we have the downspout that is missing. Chipping, peeling paint for the exterior surfaces. And then this is the brickwork and mortar along the accessory wall that surrounds the property. More dilapidated soffit exterior surfaces, chipping, peeling paint, and that's all we have at this time.

I will submit to these photographs, establish the conditions of the citation as they exist at the time of the citation as they still exist, and I'll reserve any questions for the appellant.

So have we talked before? We were in the process of trying to get the smaller building and the bigger one demolished. We had a company come out and do an asbestos survey. They just got the results in on Wednesday. They took 77 samples out of the two buildings. Nine of them tested positive. So the next step for that before they can come to me is they got to come back again next week and measure out the errors that tested positive, get the square footage of all that to come back with me of a quote of what it costs to remove all of that and then continue with the demolition process.

We would recommend a 60-day continuance for status to see how this is going.

If I could, I'm out of town on October 2nd. October 9th, I drive for a field trip for our school. October 16th, I'm available, or September 18th, either one of those, if that's okay.

October 16th would be our animal docket event. I could, how about October 30th?

30th? Yes, sir. That's fine with us.

Council, is that good with you?

Yes, sir.

Okay.

So in the matter of ENF-PMAT-24-003-112-7, the address being 2214 Bank Street, we're going to pass this to status to October the 30th.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And thank you for providing an update on this. Yes. I know this has been ongoing for you all. So we appreciate some kind of push along the way. Thank you.

Thanks, guys.

NF dash zero n dash two five dash 001027 dash 21113. Brooke Street.

Mike, are you up? Mike, you want to state your name for the record?

Mike Walsh.

Do you swear from the testimony you brought to give us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? I do. And just for the record, what's your affiliation with Metro? Who are you here on behalf of? Which department?

I'm sorry? Yeah.

What's your... Oh, I'm sorry.

Code and Regulations Department.

Okay. Thank you. I thought you were zoning for some reason. I'm sorry.

It is zoning, but it's a division.

It's division. That's, yeah. All right. Good morning. Good morning. Can you all state your names for the record? Yes. I'm Kathleen Bolin. This is my husband.

Gilbert Ramon.

All right. Please raise your right hands. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Yes.

Thank you.

Okay, so the citation was issued for the operation of the home without the required permits. And I see that as of August 2025, you had completed the pre-application for the CUP, but you hadn't yet submitted for the formal filing for the CUP. Correct.

So in August, we were getting ready to have our wedding in Chicago. So we were back and forth quite a bit. As you can imagine, the planning of a wedding took a lot of our time. As of April of this year, we have sent emails and tried to coordinate a hearing, but we hadn't heard anything back yet. So we have every intention of continuing and getting. We were told we had a year or so.

Well, you're not going to get a hearing until you submit the formal CEP. You haven't done that yet. You've only done the pre-application at this point.

So the emails, the correspondence that we sent was to get the process started again. And I know there's the neighborhood meeting. There's a few steps. And I just wanted clarification on what that was. And we just heard nothing back. And then we got another citation.

So you had your meeting at the Office of Planning with a planner about this, right? That's who you need to contact.

I reached back out to him and I had no response.

And who is that?

Zachary.

Yeah, he definitely still works for the planning. So I would suggest that you go and contact him possibly this morning since you're here. Go over to the Metro Hall and third floor planning and ask to speak with them about getting formal applications submitted.

Yeah, no, we definitely want to move forward with everything.

I did come in June after we didn't get any response to try to talk to somebody, but I was told not to do anything until we had this hearing here today. Well, as far as paying a fine, I did want to be in compliance. I told them, we're trying. And, you know, I didn't want to be out of compliance. And I was instructed not to do anything until we had the hearing here today.

Well, you definitely need to contact them because you should have submitted that application some time ago. Okay. Yeah, we'll get it done as soon as possible. Yeah.

And I know we only have a year. So that's why we're, we did want to get it done in April.

In this case, we would recommend pushing this out for 30 days to get you all in contact with them and to come back with some evidence that you have contacted and are moving forward with the process. All right.

I appreciate that. Thank you.

Thank you. So that would be 30 days for status. Okay.

So in the matter of ENF-ZON-25-001027-2, the address being 1113 Brook Street, We are going to pass this out for status to the August 28th date. And like Mr. Wilshire said, folks, you're already down here. You just go across the street to the courthouse third floor, see if you can corner the man and say, hey, what do we need to do? Our clock's kind of running. We need to run with the ball. What can we do? So appreciate your efforts on it, okay? Thank you. Thank you.

NF-SHL-25-000278-3, 2817 6th Street. Morning.

Good morning, sir. Can you state your name for the record?

Duran Holder.

And what's your affiliation with Romero Properties LLC?

Property management.

Right. And do you have an attorney here with you?

Yes, Mr. John Benz.

Mr. Benz? There he is. There you are. All right. Sir, if you could raise your right hand for me. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Yes. Thank you. Priorities are sworn.

On 2-10-2026 the third visit, a penalty was placed for operating a shelter without the proper licensing.

Another inspection was performed

Another inspection was performed yesterday and it was still found to be out of compliance. We did have a supervisor do the inspection and they had requested a copy of the lease which was provided. The lease actually shows that this is still not operating as a single family residence I'm just going to go straight to the photos on the lease showing that this is broken up into common areas and two apartments. As you see here, there are two meters and two unit numbers. This is not operating as a single family dwelling. That's all we have.

I will submit that these photographs establish the conditions of the citation as they exist at the time of the citation as they still exist and reserve any questions for the appellant.

Go ahead, Mr. Benz. It was my understanding when we've been here on this property before.

John, can you turn up your volume? I can barely hear you. Mr. Benz, I could barely hear you.

All right. Can you hear me better?

Much better.

All right. Same thing. It keeps picking the wrong microphone for WebEx. If I remember correctly, when we were here previously on this property. there was testimony that it was being operated at one time as a group home, but it has now been turned into a duplex, which would be indicative of it being two separate apartments with two separate meters and so forth. So we don't believe it's being operated as a group home or common home anymore that is being operated as a duplex with two individual apartments.

So The understanding of this property is we've requested an interior inspection to verify what the house is being used for. And what was found, I was told, was that you do have two separate – you have units, but they're not separated. They can move back and forth between the units, so it's not really a duplex. You have a – You have several individuals living in this house that's supposed to be used for a duplex, but it's not divided into two units, correct? That is not correct.

So the property is divided. That door there actually has a... as you would call a dead boat, to where only the people that are on property two that can actually go into that actual property. There's two entrances. The main entrance to the one, there's a hallway, which is what you're looking at now, goes up to the stairs to three rooms. That's where you see. Because all these pictures are actually provided by me, not code enforcers. So this case was actually closed last month. And I was also stating... The last gentleman that was here, he told us that we wouldn't see or have to deal with code enforcers for a year. So I provided this with Mr. Tim. Let me start over. The thing is, I house people with intellectual disability for guardianship. So that's how the two leases end up having two guardianship leases. So that door divides apartment one, the main entrance to this unit here, which is two. There are actually three bedrooms up those stairs with the kitchen, which was shown on the last photos with the bathroom. So in order for them to actually go into that unit, someone would actually have to let them in, which no one actually has a key to that unit but me and my maintenance guys.

So it's divided.

And again, this was supposed to have been a closed case last month. This is the same deal we actually dealt with last month. And I also provided this, which is what you guys gave me last month as well.

to separate the two units.

Right, right.

So we think that it's sovereign.

It's a traditional house. He's stating it's a duplex. So I mean, she's not a factory.

The unicellularity situation is different. There needs to be each unit needs to have a group of Okay, so the inspection that was conducted