Public Safety Committee - Regular Meeting

And you can visit libraries across the city to really connect with the pleasure of learning and discovery.

We thought when we had ventured into an accelerator in the West End that we would be looking at traditional needs, technical assistance, bookkeeping, accounting, marketing, things of that nature. We found that there were at least eight other areas that we had to address with our small businesses. We also thought we would get to wealth creation very quickly whereby the businesses could buy the buildings that we were repairing and putting them in. We had a lot of help from Leadership Louisville and our board which started from Leadership Louisville has understood that when you are repairing vacant and abandoned property and or historic properties, the level of investment is significantly more than if you're going on an open lot and just putting a new building there. And so we started looking at all of these comprehensive issues and I just want you to know we found that not only did those businesses need the areas of traditional business capacity building, but they needed numerous other areas. And so we are excited about the fact that some of our businesses have gone from $10,000 a month to $57,000 a month in a year with the right kinds of help being brought to the table. And a lot of that was because of our Congressman Morgan McGarvey getting us the S. B. A. Money. So I just want to let you all know when you get $900,000 investment and small business, even though it sounds like a lot, it's not enough to get us over the hurdles that we're dealing with because we have numerous people all across the city, small businesses that need investment and assistance to grow their businesses.

22 years ago, Louisville's four largest institutions came together to form the Partnership for a Green City. Today, that partnership represents 30,000 employees and reaches 135,000 students each year. I'm sure some of those students were you.

The Founders Award honors individuals whose service has fundamentally shaped the Partnership for a Green City and advanced sustainability across Louisville. I'm honored to congratulate Louisville Metro's Executive Director of Parks and Recreation, Michelle King. Come on up, Michelle.

The partnership for Green City has truly been formative in my work with Louisville Metro government. It's a do not a did and that's what sustainability is. There is always another kilowatt to be saved. There's always another student to be reached and there's always the opportunity for these four great partners to show leadership for our city.

We continue to honor the life and legacy of Colonel John E. Aubrey, a man whose commitment to public safety and service defined more than five decades of his life. He led with integrity, steadiness, and a deep sense of responsibility to the people he served. Today, we are going to dedicate the street sign. We do more than remember. We affirm that his impact will not be forgotten. We're honored to be able to dedicate this corner of the street to Colonel John E. Aubrey.

It is appropriate that to call Colonel Aubrey's long tenure an example for all of us new to public office. His tenure has been an inspiration to all of us in public office at all levels and in every level of government. And I'm honored to play a small role today and honoring his legacy.

He would cause us all to vibrate with his thoughts, his passion, his love for people, his love for law enforcement, his love for the job at the sheriff's office. That's a testament to all the sheriff's deputies that are standing here today. He struck a note with them all. He struck a note with you all. That's why you're here today, to recognize Sheriff Aubrey. We carry him with us in everything that we do, and we exude his impression that he left upon us.

Today is a big day in District 1 and for the families who live along the Lee's Lane corridor. We are proud to officially announce the Lee's Lane sidewalk and drainage project. A major investment in safety, infrastructure and quality of life for this community. This project will bring new sidewalks and critical drainage improvements, replacing updated and unsafe conditions and creating a safer, more accessible environment for residents. And I'm especially excited to say the funding for this project has been fully secured. We're spending 457,000 right here for the safety of this community.

The one thing, I just want to give you some facts about the start of the project. Lee's Lane, as most of you all know, this is Kentucky 2051. This is a state route. So we've had, we will be partnering with KYTC to work within their right of way. We'll be getting an encroachment permit and providing any of our plans just to get their approval throughout the whole process. We've decided this is a project that we can do in-house. It will actually save the project money from having to go outside to do a consultant. That savings is reflected in what can be built, what can be utilized for this project. So that was a real win-win, we thought, to work with the councilwoman on this project. Basically, to build it within the right of way, we're going to be adding the sidewalk, but it will basically entail filling the ditches in or putting pipe in the ditches and adding catch basins, which means we'll have some just sway. The ditching and all the drains will be underground, and the driveways will actually be somewhat improved. As you can see to my right, A lot of these are very deep ditches. So from a safety standpoint, we don't have a big drop off. So that in itself will be a bonus.

Well, after this project, the community of Lee's Lane should feel a lot safer.

Our budget includes food for the pets here. So thankfully, we're able to provide for the pets that we have in care. But we wanted to just take it a little step further because we know so many pet parents are struggling with feeding themselves, their kids. The last thing we want them to worry about is feeding their pets. And if it's something that the city shelter can help with, with partners like Kroger, Feeders Pet Supply, Meijer giving us donations of pet food, we're able to supply some of the community that need the food the most. So we just keep an open door policy for people who need food. We don't ask questions. We just put the food up front in bags and invite you to come get it. We're open Monday to Saturday, noon to six. So you can come by and grab food or litter if we have it. We're seeing an increase of pets who are emaciated that are not getting the nutrition that they need to survive. So we want to be able to provide this to our community as often as we can. If you have open bags of dog or cat food or unopened bags of dog or cat food, you can donate them here, but you can also pre-bag them at home with just a Ziploc bag. You can just label what the dog food is. We won't let the food go to waste. We're going to give it out to the community to make sure that the pets are being fed.

You like watermelon? Today is Agape Day.

I always look forward to serving the community and helping those that may be a little less fortunate.

This is in partnership with the city, with Mayor Greenberger and his team.

Giving back to the community is important to all the D9.

We have the Divine Nine, the National Panhellenic Council, which are the non-historically black fraternities and sororities who are volunteering their time today. And they are helping us get food out into the community. And this is the official kickoff to Juneteenth.

It's just the icing on the cake. We do so much that a lot of people don't really realize. They just think that, oh, you're just Greek, you're step and dance and chant. No, it's way more than that. We are like the backbones of the community that a lot of people don't see.

Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. When you don't know where your next no comes from, that's a stressful thing. And so we're just trying to provide a little hope today, you know, a little positivity, give people some fresh healthy foods that hopefully get them through the week. To show our love and our support for the community.

The question was about a former Louisville Metro Police Department officer Stotts, who just recently resigned. That helps expedite the process. As you all are well aware, Chief Humphrey initiated termination proceedings against Mr. Stotts last week, and this expedites the process. That will not change, and the Commonwealth attorney and others will continue the criminal investigation into the matter.

Our budget includes food for the pets here. So thankfully we're able to provide for the pets that we have in care, but we wanted to just take it a little step further because we know so many pet parents are struggling with feeding themselves, their kids. The last thing we want them to worry about is feeding their pets and if it's something that the city shelter can help with. With partners like Kroger, Feeders Pet Supply, Meijer giving us donations of pet food, we're able to supply some of the community that need the food the most. So we just keep an open

Couldn't be more excited for the second year of Louisville, Kentucky, here at Hurstborn Country Club hosting the ISCO Championship. It is wonderful to continue to build on this event year after year. And as you just heard, to have a PGA Tour event in Louisville, one of only 35 in the entire world here in Louisville every year, is really special. These events are so important to our city to help our local businesses, our economy. They put us in the national spotlight. And I couldn't be more thrilled that Louisville is once again hosting the ISCO Championship.

Since the ISCO Championship's been coming, back when it was in Lexington and in Louisville, $1.2 million of charity has been left in the Commonwealth for charitable causes. And that's a great thing about the PGA Tour, is the charitable impact they leave in every city they visit. There's only 35 cities in this country that get the honor of doing this, and I'm proud that Louisville is one of them.

I just felt like since it was such a community space, I wanted it to be something that unites us all.

Behind us, you'll see Louisville's very first flood wall mural, which is an exciting step for our city. We've seen cities all up and down the Ohio River and other river cities with really successful flood wall mural programs. So we're really excited for the first opportunity to collaborate with MSD Louisville and Waterfront Park. to contract with a local artist to do a composition on this section of the flood wall right next to the new play port.

So the river is why we're here. It goes all the way around Louisville, and it is a part of all of our lives.

It is quite an honor, and it's much more than just a painting or much more than a mural.

It's been a new view on Louisville and how much damage the flood did and how important these flood walls are. It's fun to paint them, but I really love that they are a solid protection for us. There's a lot of greens up there.

I can prove it from now on.

Here we go. You ready? Huh? Everybody's here. Okay.

Good afternoon. The time is 4.02 p.m. This is the regularly scheduled meeting of the Public Safety Committee. I'm your Chair, Councilman Dan Simon. I'm joined by Vice Chair, Councilwoman Tammy Hawkins. Today we have the following committee members in attendance. We have Committee Members Shemeika Parrish-Wright, Committee Member Andrew Owen, Jonathan Joseph, Scott Reed, Marcus Winkler, Is Betsy Rui? Betsy Rui is here in person. Kevin Bratcher and Jenny Mulvey-Woolridge. Clerk, will you please read the virtual meeting language?

This meeting is being held pursuant to KRS 61.826 and Council Rule 5A, read in full.

Thank you, Madam Clerk. We have three items on the agenda that include a special discussion and two ordinances. Please note we will take the items in order according to the agenda. Today we're joined by Deputy Chief Emily McKinley and Deputy Chief Ryan Bates with Louisville Metro Police Department to provide an update on mid-year crime trends and the summer task force. Please state your name and title for the record and you may begin, Deputy McKinley.

Good afternoon. Thanks for having us. Again, my name is Emily McKinley, Deputy Chief for LMPD. We're glad to be here. I know we initially said we wanted to come at least once a month to the Public Safety Committee to give an update on crime and any other hot topics within LMPD or policing or public safety. And so here today, we also have Deputy Chief Ryan Bates, and I'll let him start it off with our mid-year crime numbers as well as some stats and information on our summer task force.

Thanks for having us. So going over our violent crime data, homicides are down 30% as of June 15th. As far as our calls for service, we're down 1%. Self-initiated runs are up 11%. There's really been no change in arrests. Citations are up 8%.

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The Louisville National Police Department's summer task force was established to enhance public safety and the quality of life in the entertainment districts, downtown areas, and waterfront destinations, and to stay focused. Officers operating and rotating squads to provide seven day a week coverage focused on crime prevention, crowd management, and support to patrol operations. There'll be three operational periods throughout the year, one going from May 3rd to June 27th, second going from June 28th to August 22nd, and the last going from August 23rd to October 17th. The task force has demonstrated value in three primary areas. visibility and deterrence through daily deployments in the downtown area, waterfront, Newloo, the Highlands, and SFI areas, continuous presence during large events such as bat games and peak activity times in those areas. It also has demonstrated value in rapid response capabilities, immediate responses to robberies, shootings, missing children, and other major disturbances. We also provide support across multiple divisions, And the third area is quality of life improvements. They've done street racing enforcement, public drinking enforcement, crowd management, parking lot and sidewalk accessibility in some of those areas that get crowded during those events, as well as the waterfront and entertainment district stabilization. some of their notable accomplishments uh in this first seven weeks is uh they apprehended uh five juvenile suspects that did a robbery on the bridge uh through coordination with the real-time crime center and jeffersonville police department they executed a search warrant resulting in recovery of firearms putting a drum magazine suspected narcotics and multiple arrests for trafficking multiple recoveries of firearms during proactive patrol and enforcement operations, repeated enforcement of Louisville's street racing ordinance, including vehicle seizures and reckless driving interventions. They also assisted with recovery of missing children and vulnerable persons. and ongoing support to patrol operations. Like if they had like a homicide, they needed assistance on the scene so the division guys could go out and look for those that committed the crime. They're more familiar with their home division areas. The task force has afforded them those opportunities. Some of the challenges that we've encountered, the most persistent challenge is is crowd management along with the Barstown Road Corridor and the Highlands Entertainment District, as you've probably seen in media reports. We have consistently encountered large groups on sidewalks, parking lots, many of whom were not patrons of the local businesses.

These gabinets and juvenile curfew violations.

summer task forces performing well, providing flexible deployment resources, able to preventing disorder, responding rapidly to serious incidents and supporting patrol operations and maintaining public safety in high activity areas. While long-term impacts and trends cannot be assessed, the operational reports demonstrate consistent activity aligned with the task force mission and objectives. Here you have the stats so far. As of last night, they've had 80 arrests, issued 127 citations, nine juvenile arrest citations, and five citations for juvenile curfew violations. We've also either towed or cited 66 vehicles. Here's just a picture of the task force guys out one night along with some of the weapons that they've seized. In closing, in its first month of operations, the summer task force has made approximately 80 arrests, issued 120 citations, recovered approximately eight firearms, executed a felony search warrant, seized multiple street racing vehicles, and helped safely recover a missing child. and we've responded to over 200 calls for service while maintaining highly visible presence in Louisville's most visible background areas. And now Deputy Chief McKinley will discuss our crisis response.

So I wanted to bring our crisis response and how LMPD trains, some of the things we are doing when it comes to crisis response within the city, and then some data. I gave a similar presentation yesterday to the Community Safety Commission, and I felt that it was important for you all to hear this information as well. This will be a few slides with a lot of detailed information that we could get into. This could be a very long presentation if we wanted it to be, and happy to come back later to go in more depth or get you all more information as needed. Click the next slide. So first, every LMPD officer is trained in CIT. If you look at other police agencies, CIT is a branded curriculum. It is a licensed and trademarked curriculum. Not every agency trains all of their officers in CIT. LMPD has done this for nearly 20 years, starting in the recruit class. So recruits go through the 40-hour CIT training course during the academy. And then LMPD also offers the advanced CIT training that the state gives to officers. So right now, the advanced CIT program is given by the state, so by the Department of Criminal Justice training. They offer that currently once a year. that we share those slots with other city or agencies, police agencies across the state. So we compete with other agencies to get seats in those classes. Currently, we are working with Dr. Maria Lederman, who is the executive director for behavioral health in the mayor's office, to develop a similar curriculum that the state would approve that we could give train our own officers here at our Academy and host our own class so that is something that we are working on right now to develop the advanced training within our Academy we also have annual in-service requirements for every officer every year with 40 hours of in-service training every in-service incorporates a the de-escalation skills, less lethal options, firearms training twice a year, any sort of crisis response and decision making skills, as well as scenario-based firearms training that we get every single year. Metro Safe has been operating their deflection program for a few years. I know that you all are familiar with it. So there is criterion to determine if a call is best suited and routed to a crisis triage worker who is a person sitting in the call center managing a crisis response over the phone, or if that call could be diverted to a mobile crisis response person who could respond and help that person in crisis. So that would not be a police officer, that would be a mental health worker who could respond and assist with providing resources to the person in crisis. Or they may determine that, depending on the circumstances, that it is best suited for a police response or EMS response. some of their criteria where calls are not eligible for deflection, if the individual is in possession of a weapon, if the person is intoxicated or has overdosed to the point where they're needing medical attention, if they're attempting or threatening to hurt themselves or others, if the person is known to be violent or is already injured due to self-harm, or if they have committed a violent crime such as domestic violence. So last year in 2025, 4,923 calls were diverted to either the crisis triage worker or the mental health or mobile crisis response teams. 937 of those 920 or 4923 calls, 937 of those were the mobile crisis response team calls. So these are nearly 5,000 calls for service that prior to the deflection program would have been handled by LMPD or EMS or a combination of both. In 2025, LMPD responded to 3,235 CIT-related calls for service. So again, remember, these are calls that did not meet the criteria for deflection. So these would be calls where the person is either armed, they're attempting self-harm, they're threatening to harm others, they are intoxicated or have overdosed to the point that they need some medical attention. or they're violent or there's some sort of violent abuse that is currently active and happening. So 3,235 calls related to crisis that LMPD officers responded to last year. Of those calls, 81 of them involve some sort of level of reportable force, 69 of those 81 where simply empty hand control holds or takedowns. So a very low level use of of a taser and seven involved the use of other less legal options such as a punch or a strike or an OC spray. Those would be other types of force that would be reportable that wouldn't be an empty hand control. Go to the next slide. So again, looking at those numbers, remembering the 3,235 calls for service that LMPD officers responded to, 12 of those incidents involved force beyond empty hand control. And that would be equal to 0.37% of the CIT calls for service resulted in any sort of force beyond the use of an empty hand control by LMPD officers. So 99.6%. of all of the 3,235 CIT encounters with LMPD in 2025 were resolved without TASER, less lethal tools, or deadly force. We talk about injuries, so injuries to officers or consumers. So across the 3,235 CIT calls, five consumers or subjects were injured. That would be equal to 0.15%. There were three officers who were injured during these encounters, so that's equal to .09%, a combined total injury of eight people for a rate of .25%. So more than 99.7% of CIT encounters with LMPD officers resulted in no reported injury to either the consumer or the officer last year. If we compare last year to this year, and this is January through May data, in 2025, LNPD had responded to 1,347 CIT calls. This time, we have responded to 1,392 CIT calls, a very similar number. Coincidentally, last year and this year, the total force incidents are 36, the total empty-handed Incidents are 28 for both years. I've double checked that data and that is a coincidence there that those numbers are the same. Force excluding the empty hand control for 2025 is eight. This year that force excluding empty hand control is 10. The two extra do include the two deadly force incidents that you all are aware of this year. So the rate for this year and last year for excluding empty hand control would be 0.72 for this year and 0.59 for 2025. So the incidents resolved beyond the use of force beyond empty hand control for 2025 would be 99.41%, and this year at this time it is 99.28%. Just wanted to give you all some context behind how many crisis calls our city receives, whether that's through deflection or that are sent to police response. If you add up the nearly 5,000 calls plus the 3,000 calls that LMPD received, it's over 8,000 CIT crisis calls from people in our community. And just wanted to show to you all how often they are resolved very peacefully, whether that's through the deflection workers or through LMPD. Thank you for having us, and at this time I'll open it up for any questions.

Thank you. I'll lead with the first question. How are you coordinating and collaborating with the Sheriff Department?

We were discussing earlier along Bardstown Road at night.

We've collaborated with the Sheriff's Department. They're sending us personnel to help assist with some of those matters on the weekend.

Please turn on your microphone.

Oh, I'm sorry. The Sheriff's Department is gonna assist us with personnel for some of the problems that we've encountered on Bardstown Road with the crowds and problematic parking and things like that that are going on over in that area.

So we are coordinating with the Sheriff's Department with these runs to Bardstown and these takeovers.

yes sir that is correct thank you i've got some folks in the queue um councilman scott reed you had a question uh yes i do uh can you hear me yeah we hear you good good we were having some issues last night uh so thank you both for coming uh do the numbers that you present are they exclusive of suburban uh districts like uh shively and jaytown st matthews etc

The numbers that we presented for both the crime and for the crisis response do not include these small cities. That's correct.

Okay. Are there situations where if you had situation or if you had emergency calls in those suburban districts where LMPD would go in there, are they handled by the suburban districts?

There are occasions where some of the small cities, for example, homicides, we have worked homicides for small cities. I know we have worked homicides for Butchel and other small cities within the county. We don't classify those or count those in the metro numbers, so there is a separate classification or category that we have for outside jurisdiction homicides or assaults that we may work. But we are requested by them in some cases to manage those scenes if they are not able to do so.

Okay. Thank you. And Deputy Chief Bates made the comment that there were on shifting gears here a little bit, uh, on Bardstown road, that there were 80 citations, uh, as a result of some of these gatherings, what, what constitutes a citation versus an arrest?

So the, the 80 arrests was for the whole task force since they started, not just along Bardstown road, uh, that would include arrest throughout, uh, all the jurisdictions. So, uh, uh, A citation could be for speeding, reckless driving, arrests are usually misdemeanors or felonies. You can't cite for misdemeanors as well if it's up to the discretion of the officer. It just depends if they have the discretion or not.

And I suppose this would be my last question for Deputy Chief McKinley. And I'm asking you sort of to speak for the police chief. I think I read where he said that he wanted his officers to be ambassadors. What does that mean?

Yes. So the chief has spoke regularly internally and externally about how we want officers to be ambassadors for the city. We want officers to support Louisville. We want officers to promote the entertainment areas and the activities that Louisville has to offer throughout our entire city. That's what he means by being ambassadors of the city, so welcoming people and visitors and helping residents who live in the city. Community policing, I think if you want to talk about community policing, that's being an ambassador for your city. I could talk about community policing in the sense that I think policing is community policing. When we talk about community policing, we act as if there's some other way to police, but I think policing is the community and so having that sort of mindset when you're interacting and engaging with whether it's visitors residents or business owners but supporting your city um actively and positively that's what he means by that okay thank you and thanks for your hard work yes sir thank you thank you councilman next would be councilman kevin bratcher please thank you mr chair and thank you guys for uh

for coming, I appreciate it, and I'm really glad the numbers are going down. Do you think the force, and this is kind of a touchy-feely question, do you feel the force feels this going down? I mean, do you, is it a lot less stress or whatnot?

You just had to guess. Policing is a fun job. It can be a stressful job as well. But one of the things that we have done recently is we started sending post-interaction surveys to community members who called the police. if your house is broken into or your car was broken into or stolen or any other, you're involved in a traffic accident. We started sending post-interaction surveys and pushing that feedback out to officers I think has helped officers realize how they are received by the community. I mean, we're getting scores as far as 92% ratings as far as professionalism goes and reliability and timeliness and then community members are able to send specific messages about their interactions with officers and so we've found ways to take those messages and send them personally to those officers so they can hear the feedback from the person that they helped on that traffic stop or that car accident or the lady whose house was broken into. And so I think that has resonated positively with officers as well. We also communicate the crime stats going down and how we think that their relationships with the community has led to that drop in violent crime you know we have to build trust in that in the community to where people are talking to us more people are reporting crime people are witnesses are speaking up and i think that has been a huge driver in crime going down that's great do you guys keep track of repeat offenders or is that something the courts do or We do, so in multiple different ways. So we have, first we have GVR, Group Violence Intervention Program, keeps track of repeat offenders and repeat violent offenders, particularly those who may not have crossed the line to become a trigger puller or involved in significant violent crime, but they might be headed down that way. How can we intervene with them? We also have our prohibited firearm possessor group who tracks people who consistently are in possession of firearms illegally when they are banned or convicted felons from having firearms or they're subject to a domestic violence order and prohibiting them from having firearms. We track repeat offenders on that and we communicate that to the courts as well. We also, there's a new initiative through the police foundation and other business leaders in our community called the Repeat Offender Initiative that's focusing on getting a collaborative group of judges and prosecutors and other community members together in this field to manage and help judges make decisions on repeat offenders.

All that sounds great, and I appreciate it, officers. Two more last questions, Mr. Chair. Social media, do you all monitor? Is there some... somebody that's monitoring social media, because it seems like that's after the story you find out, well, they were all communicating on social media, blah, blah, blah, you know.

Yes, so our real time crime center constantly monitors different pages on social media or they'll monitor for different trends, things that are trending on social media, whether that's gatherings or different posts that might be trending. And then we also have a lot of our detective units and our investigative units have analysts that are embedded with them and our detectives are actually pretty skilled with

navigating social media themselves um but yeah so there's multiple different ways that we monitor social media for threats or potential threats great and then the last question and start with a comment that uh somebody in fern creek's car was broken into the other night and and the police came and i know that sometimes there's not a police available and they ask you just make a report online that's normal process i believe you know if there's because there might be you know all the the cops might be busy at that time, and when you come to a broken-in car or whatnot, it's where there's not immediate danger, it's just go to the website and make a report. And that leads me just now to the last question, and I hope this isn't real, but there was an officer that told me once that when it comes to breaking into folks' cars or checking unlocked cars and things like that, what we consider petty theft that it's just a part of life in the big city and people just need to get used to it. And it kind of devastated me when they said that, uh, they're saying there's just no way to post guard when, when they, when they, the criminals decide to go out and hit a neighborhood, you just never know where they're going to hit. And it's just part of life in the big city. And it's just something, uh, that's going to be a part of our life going forward. Can you just reflect on that? Do you find that to be truthful or misguided?

Well, no, I don't find that to be truthful or accurate. I, too, have been a victim of a car break-in multiple times, and it feels very violating for someone to know that someone was going through your stuff. i understand that there are larger crimes or more serious crimes but to that person and i've been that person to see your your stuff thrown about in your in your vehicle it hurts and so no that is not how we feel about those crimes or would approach speaking with a victim about those crimes we do take those very seriously because we do know that car break-ins lead to serious violent crime we do know that people who have broken into cars and stolen firearms or other items have gone on to commit violent crimes. So we know that car break-ins can lead to bigger crime. So I would disagree with that sentiment and I apologize for whomever said that. And I'm sorry for the person that you know whose vehicle was broken into because I do know that does feel violating.

Thank you.

Thank you, Councilman. Next is my co-chair, Hawkins, please.

Thank you, Chair. Thanks for being here and thanks for all that you all do. This is perfect today, especially for the ordinance that I'm proposing. A couple of things that you said, Bardstown Road. So I wanna talk about Bordertown Road and the severity of juvenile homes and youth that have taken over Bordertown Road, right? So the summer task force that you all have, how long are they staying on Bordertown Road? In like what hours? Do you all have that data? And if not, you can get it back to me.

So the task force works seven days a week from 6 p.m. to 4 a.m. As far as the, in regards to, it's not solely a juvenile problem. Actually, if you talk to the guys that are out doing the work, juveniles are a component of the problem. But we also have a lot of problems with kids from 18 to 21 that just don't want to go into the bars and establishments that are there and would rather congregate on the, sidewalks and out in front of the businesses.

So you said that, you know, juveniles 18 and up that don't want to go inside the clubs, right? The clubs, the restaurants, everything that's open around that corridor. And you said the task force goes from 6 p.m. to 4 a.m., right? So I've been up and down Bardstown Road. Actually, I asked my colleague, Ben Weber, if he wanted to meet me out there. Been out there a couple of times to see what's going on. It is horrific. And, you know, police is just trying to... do crowd control more than anything. I want to talk a little bit about the waterfront also. I want to talk about how a lot of juveniles have been going terrorizing the waterfront. My constituents, I'm sure all 26 of ours, I don't know if the same task force is going to the waterfront, but either way it goes, whether if they're going to Barchan Road, if they're going to the water park, wherever they are going, they are going to move around, right? Once you all kind of get control of one area, they're gonna hop to another area, right? So we're just kind of following where they go. Next, I guess they'll be at Fern Creek, I don't know. But I know from six to four, there's a lot of business owners and there's a lot of people that, They want some help, right? And I'm saying that to say that the juveniles, you all said that you all gave out 80 citations since this has started. And thank you so much for this summer task force. That is definitely needed. I definitely wanna make sure that you all are working hand in hand with codes in the need if some of these clubs have became nuisance. I do know that Bread had talked to clubs and just asked them, hey, if you all would just close down at 2 a.m., we probably wouldn't even have this issue. And they've started to close down at 2 a.m. just because it's just too much. Social media. I do believe that I passed along to some of my colleagues a brawl of security guards. I want to say I sent it to the chief. where they're just in clubs fighting on Borschtown Road and anywhere else. I do know that officers can't go inside a club. So if there's a brawl on the inside of a club, how do you all handle that if the task force is actually on the street? Because I know some of these clubs, they have security, right? They have people that are supposed to be securing their club, whether they're law enforcement, whether they're Joe Blow off the street, what happens when there's a brawl inside one of these takeovers, right? What does LMPD do? Do you all just respond? I know you said give out citations, but how can you give out a citation to a juvenile? I know it's only a limited amount of officers that we get, and I'm just trying to find a balance because if we're already short officers from LMPD, we already have some concerns in the overtime. I'm just trying to see where this balance is. just kinda fits in with this whole takeover from the juveniles, because most of the juveniles, we're not gonna be able, we're gonna have to put them in the cars and take them home. We can't take them to JCYC, there is none. So what do we do with a brawl of juveniles? on these takeovers because we already are short officers right so are we having our officers spend a lot of time you know what what are you all doing or what are you all suggesting i need to know just so i can you know tell my constituents so i can talk to some of the business owners because they truly have a lot of concerns like what do we do our staff Our establishment is open for 21 and over, but you have these people that just bum rush and just come in. What do we do? Because we don't hire the police. The police is on the street. They don't protect the clubs or the bars or the restaurants or things like that.

Okay, so that was a lot to cover. I know, it was a lot for me. So that's part of the reason we, that's one of the main reasons we started the task force was so that we'd have a dedicated group of officers that could be visible and respond to these type of incidents. Because what we were having before the task force was developed is we were having to use our rapid response teams, which is essentially two patrolmen or two patrol officers from all the eight patrol divisions. And they were having to respond from different divisions As you know, the 3rd, the 8th, some of these other divisions out in the suburban areas are not necessarily close to the city and vice versa, so that would take time to get to these incidents. Starting the dedicated task force, we can respond to those type of incidents quickly and hopefully visibly deter those types of incidents from occurring. Councilman Sime asked earlier about our collaboration with the Sheriff's Department. So we have assistance from the sheriffs. We're working with ABC to discuss violations like you discussed inside the PARs. Little Metro Department of Corrections has been kind enough to provide us with booking vans to transport. and we also developed a relationship with YTS in the event we do have to transport juveniles, that they will take custody and handle contact in the court days and every worker for us to help expedite that process for the officers making that arrest.

Okay, you said from 6 p.m. to 4 a.m., right? Yes, ma'am. Okay. Is there any wiggle room? Can you all extend it an extra hour maybe to 5 a.m.? And I'm only saying that is because there was an incident out of 7th Street. right um and i'm not quite sure why this venue was not on lmpd's radar um you know staying open the streets you know like the whole street was like derby and they said it had been like that for months until an incident occurred you know that area wasn't on LMPD's radar to see that cluster of people just hanging out with liquor and drugs and just hanging out on the street. Do we just, like can you give me a little bit of background if you all had known about that or if you just kind of like knew about it and kept on going until any trouble came or how does that go? Or you wait on a call?

So I'm not familiar with the incident you're discussing, but if our guys got caught.

I'm talking about the, I think it was 11 people that got shot and two people that got killed trying to leave the area.

No, okay, I'm familiar with what you're talking about now. If our guys had known about that, they would have responded over there. And just so you know, the task force is scheduled to work from 6 to 4 a.m., but there's been nights when we haven't got their after action report until later in the evening because things were not in an area where they felt comfortable leaving. So they stayed later.

So what areas, and then I'm going to go ahead and give it to you. So what areas do you determine that you all go in? Is it, you know, like is there certain areas? It, you know, how does that criteria determine where you go for this task force?

So the task force right now, as a matter of routine, they focus on the areas we discussed earlier during the brief. However, they've worked in almost every patrol division at one time or another, either helping with crime scenes, helping search for missing persons. So basically, if they get called to respond to an incident in another division, they are able to do that. So they are accessible if needed. But we have to be aware of what's going on in order to respond to it.

So if you know, like right now, we know that Bardstown Road is a troubled area. We know that the waterfront is a troubled area. We've been asking, I thought then, I know when I talked to the chief, he told me that there was gonna be a blitz on 26th Street. I think now Club Cedar just decided to close down at 10 o'clock, but that blitz never happened in those troubled areas. So at any troubled area, for that particular time, this task force can pivot and go there?

Yes, ma'am, so the goal was if some of these other areas didn't require attention to focus on our SFI areas as part of our sustained focused improvement areas, which are part of our crime plan.

Okay. So the other thing, Councilwoman, if I could. You know, Councilman Bratcher asked about monitoring social media. So that is one thing that we do. And if there's something that we hear about or we see that's trending, like, hey, it looks like there's going to be a pop-up party here or it looks like there's going to be some sort of car group that gathers over here or some group is talking about going to this club, that is something that our real-time crime center communicates. And if we... see that, hey, on Friday night, this looks like this is happening here. We want to send some members of the task force over there to monitor that. That is what we do. And so having this task force allows us that flexibility to pivot and make those decisions. And then also from you all as well, any information or intel that you all are getting from constituents on things that are happening that we might not know about, please share it with us so that we can provide that security for people.

Thank you. I'm going to take one more question. She's been in the queue for a while. Councilwoman Betsy, really please.

Thank you. Okay. Thank you for being here today and I appreciate all the crisis information data. So first I want to clarify some letters. CIT is crisis intervention team, correct?

Yes, ma'am. That is what it stands for.

Okay. What is CTW?

CTW stands for Crisis Triage Worker. So they are the people who sit in the call center and take calls from people in crisis and provide resources and mitigation or de-escalation via phone to that person in crisis.

Okay. Thank you. And what is MCRT?

MCRT is the Mobile Crisis Response Team, so those would be mental health workers through seven counties who respond in the field to someone in crisis and provide resources and de-escalation and mitigation in the field.

Okay, thank you. Those were easy questions to answer.

Yes, ma'am. Thank you.

Okay, so I'm looking at the violent crime data on here, and I'm grateful to see that homicides and nonfatal shootings are still going down by double digits. I'm impressed by the robberies and carjackings going down as much as they have. That's good news and I know it's really hard to go back and say why is this happening? That's a hard one to explain but I'm curious about these self-initiated things. So self-initiated runs have gone up, citations have gone up, warrants served have gone up. Why have these things increased? This is a good thing to see, why?

Right, so I think officers are, so self-initiated activity, first of all, it's not just enforcement action. So that could be an officer calling off on a business check, talking with a business owner, or doing some sort of directed patrol or foot patrol in the area. So it's not just making traffic stops or stopping people. It does include that, but it's not always that. But I think that reflects the officers getting out and engaging with the community more. And then more citations. So you see the arrests are about the same. There's really no change in the arrests. I think the difference was like 0.5%. So I think I put no change on the slide. So the arrests are about the same, but there's more citations. So we are enforcing traffic. I think there's been more speeding enforcement. We've had more fatalities over the past several years, and so getting out on the expressways and enforcing that speeding, has been a factor there, and so writing more tickets there. And then you see the activity on Bardstown Road and Waterfront Park, so taking enforcement action that way, making sure that we're addressing any sort of quality of life issues for our neighbors.

Okay, thank you. So aside from the response teams for the Friday, Saturday night crazy stuff, does it feel like officers now have more time to make these self-initiated, like stop and talking to business owners and whatever? Does it feel like they have more time to do this? Or where do you think this change is coming from?

I don't know if it's necessarily more time, but I think officers are feeling more comfortable in doing that. I think they're feeling more supported by the community and the city in getting out and taking action, whether that be through enforcement activity or just simply engaging and walking up and down the streets that they work on. So I think it's just officers feeling more comfortable and supported in doing their job.

Okay, thank you very much.

Thank you. I'm going to ask one question. I see Councilwoman Shamika Parrish-Wright is in the queue. I'm going to ask her if she'll send you her question in the mail. I hope you'll respond to her. But one thing before we quit, I want to ask, mental health crisis. Do we have a mental health worker in every police patrol car?

So the question was, do we have a mental health worker in every police patrol car? So we do not have a co-responder model, if that's what you're asking. But every officer is CIT trained. And then there are mobile crisis response workers that often will work with our officers. So our officers can go to a run. And this happens. Our officers go to a run. They are dispatched to this run. They're able to deescalate it, figure out, hey, I think a mobile crisis response worker can come here and take this over. They will call for a mobile crisis response worker to come take that over and transition that call to a mental health worker, and then the officer can remove themselves from that run. How long does that take? I mean... I don't have the exact response times, but they are working 24-7. So officers and the mobile crisis response teams work in every division and are available in every division 24-7. But they do not work for LMPD. They work for seven counties, and they're contracted through MetroSAFE.

So the officer is expected to wait on the mental crisis worker before he makes the run? And how long does this take, and what if it's an emergency?

Well, if it's an emergency, the officer can absolutely handle that run and take that person to wherever they need to go.

So if the person needs to go— What if the guy's shooting up or beating up women?

Okay, so then we wouldn't call the mobile crisis response worker to that run. That needs to be handled by the police. So if the person is assaulting people, it sounds like there needs to be an arrest made in that situation. And so the officer should handle that run appropriately and make that arrest and figure out how to safely make that arrest with the other police officers. If the person is violent or assaultive or they're armed, they're not going to call a mobile crisis response worker who's not a police officer to handle that. So that would not be an example of one that would use the mobile crisis response. One that could use the mobile crisis response could be someone who is suicidal, the officer gets there, is able to talk to them and reason with them and realize that they need to talk to somebody about resources that might be available to them behavioral health mental health world and so they might say hey I can I can hand you over to a mobile crisis response team and they can talk you through this process and explain some of this to you that person is not a danger to anyone has not committed a crime and they also can make that call it's contacted them via radio and request them to respond and hand that person over to them

thank you um i could keep you up here for hours but we've gotta we've gotta end this and um we're definitely gonna have to have you back um but thank you all for coming stay safe and uh tell tell our officers that we're we're praying for them we got their backs but thank you so much thank you thank you for having us madam clerk please read number item number two in the record

Item two, an ordinance enacting a new chapter of Title 11 of the Louisville Metro Code of Ordinances relating to in-person security at late night businesses, written in full.

May I hear a motion? Properly moved. The sponsor is my co-chair, Councilwoman Hawkins. Ma'am, you have the floor to do whatever you want.

I hope we get enough time. If not, we can table it. All right. Thank you, Mr. Chair. The ordinance updates Chapter 149 to address repeated criminal activity at a small number of late-night businesses that have already gone through the nuisance process. Importantly, this is not a blanket requirement. It only applies after a property has been identified as a persistent illegal activity property, receives notice, had an opportunity to correct the issue, and ultimately reached the citation stage. At that point, for businesses operating between 2 a.m. and 5 a.m., the ordinance requires on-site security during those late night hours. The ordinance does three key things. First, it clearly defines what qualifies as security, allowing businesses to use licensed security personnel or individuals with prior law enforcement experience. Second, it established consistent tier timeframes based on severity of incidents, 12 months for serious violent activities, six months for violent incidents, and 90 days for repeated nuisance activity. Third, it ensures decisions are based on documented law enforcement activities already defined in the code, creating a more consistent and objective standard across all districts. This is a targeted, proportional, and corrective approach focused on improving safety while giving businesses clear expectations and a path to comply. I respectfully ask for your support.

Councilman Kevin Bratcher, you're in the queue.

Okay, in the select document, Tell me which one is the one that was just approved or motioned and seconded.

So I'm going to rely on the County attorney's office because we went back and what we did, we found something that was already there and just kind of tweak, you know, well, there's like five of them in here and I just want to know which one.

This is Alice Lyon with the County attorney's office. Tell me which sections that you're looking at.

View document, and it has one, two, three, four, five, one, two, three, four, five, six, five. It has five things and what delineates the differences in them.

The one that's at the top of the list is the amendment by substitution that is the most recent version.

Late night business security trigger?

Yes.

Yes.

Yes, sir. That's the most recent version. And the others are various versions that were considered.

Why does that one say trigger and all the others say .pdf?

There's no procedural reason for that. It's probably the name that I put in the final version, but it's not a signal of any change in procedure.

okay this is um or the clerk can i say one thing mr chair do you mind if i speak this is sonia harvard the clerk yeah the floor So because he asked a similar question yesterday. So the version one, Councilman Bratcher, is the one that is actually motioned right now and before you. And then there are some amendments that will be brought before you at some point. And then the other part in the name of it, it was simply because I did not change the name when I was in a rush yesterday and I just did not change the name to match the other names.

So we're not voting on the trigger one. We're voting on V.1.

At some point, you are going to be offered an amendment.

That's what's before us now when we made the motion.

Before you now was version one, and if they offer an amendment, that would be the other versions.

This is Alice Lyon again. The version that Councilwoman Hawkins described is the one at the top of your list, the one that has true. That's the one she described, but the one initially filed, of course, is version one. and what she described as an amendment by substitution.

Okay.

Councilman Hawkins.

Yeah.

Councilwoman, I'm sorry.

Okay, it looks like the, one of my colleagues said, asked me to change two things in her. I just want to make sure that these two things, they're looking at the right ordinance. So, any premises or properties? So I'm going to ask, just to table it, because these two, I mean, I'm open to changing, to make an amendment to change one of these words, but I am gonna respectfully say this. I did send this out to everybody on this committee. I sent it out. That was the reason that I held it. Two weeks ago, I didn't hold it because I didn't think I had the vote. I held it so everybody would have an opportunity, being that I made the changes, to digest it, contact me and say, hey, you know, what's going on with this, and to give me your thoughts. I also followed up today with an email asking, hey, what's your thoughts? whatever those thoughts are, I am just trying to implement things and it really just solidifies that what I'm trying to do really needs to be done or tweaked or whatever. Really, with LMPD coming today, solidifying that, of course, we have a task force. I wish they would stay a little longer. It would help out with the times that I do have in this ordinance. And I'm going to say this. If there's a business that is not a bad actor or haven't had any violations or has not been a nuisance, this would not affect them at all. You know, codes can come right in right now and shut a club down, and there is nothing that a club can do. At least this gives, whether it's a hotel, a grocery store, whatever the case, it gives them a level of consistency. There's no consistency. Right now, after investigating, Brad can come right in and say, hey, if you don't have an attorney, we can work out something. You need to have an off-duty officer here until the next time we come back to court. none of that is on black and white. So for me, this will be more consistent across the board. And if there are no bad actors, and if you haven't gotten any nuisance violations, then this would not affect your business. But I am willing to go ahead, just for the sake of time, I am going to ask my colleagues to please take a dive, you know, look into this. And if you have any questions, I'm big on communication. That is the reason that I held it. I can answer any questions. I'll be willing to sit down and meet with you all. And I'm definitely going to follow up to see about some verbiage changes that I've just been asked to change. Is this an emotional?

a motion to postpone yes we can so we have a motion to postpone second okay we're gonna postpone this to the next meeting so this this item has been been uh postponed and we're gonna go to item number three madam clerk will you read the language we have to vote on the okay we're gonna have to vote on the postponement Voice vote aye to postpone.

Aye.

The ayes have it, so we'll postpone that item and we'll move to number three. Madam Clerk, please read the language.

Item three, an ordinance amending chapter 123 of the Louisville Metro Code of Ordinances, LMCO, regarding secondary metals recycling to conform with the Kentucky Revised Statutes as amended by the 2026 General Assembly, read in full.

I need a motion.

Motion.

It's been properly moved. The primary sponsor is Councilman Kramer. He's unable to attend today and would like us to proceed with this item. Councilwoman Jenny Mulvey-Woolridge will introduce the ordinance and Alice Lyons with the County Attorney's Office is here to answer questions. Councilwoman Mulvey-Woolridge, you may proceed.

Thank you the changes that are made within this ordinance are really to update with what the state requirements have been made. So, after I read what I know, I'm going to hand it over to the county attorney to make any additional comments. So, Senate bill 291 from the 2026 general assembly created a statewide requirement for a secondary metals recyclers, which included many of the provisions already in effect in Louisville Metro code ordinance. However, three areas where LMCO must be amended to align with the statute bill 291. So therefore, we will be making these amendments to the transaction registers must include the seller's home address where our current ordinance only requires the seller's phone number. Transaction registers must include a photo of any motor vehicle used to transport the metals. where our current ordinance only requires a photo of the license plate. And retail purchases cannot be made outside of the hours of 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. Our current ordinance does not limit sales hours. So I will hand it over to the county attorney to answer anything else and then hand it out for questions.

Council Member Mulvaney-Wolodge described the exact three changes there are. They're very simple because the General Assembly based most of the statute that they enacted on LMCO provisions that had been updated last year.

But I'm here for... And I stated them that way because they actually came from Ms. Alice there. Thank you.

Mm-hmm.

Are there any questions or discussion?

Mr. Chair, just one very quick question.

You have the floor.

Yes, thank you. Alice, just curious, is this a situation where, from a process standpoint, we have to adopt these changes?

For these three items, yes. And then the statewide provisions that are bigger than what we have apply statewide regardless. So we don't have to worry about doing that in ordinance. But for these three areas, we needed to update our ordinance.

Okay. I don't have a problem with it. I'm just curious.

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Reid. There are no more speakers in the queue. This is an ordinance and it requires a roll call vote. Madam, please open the roll.

Council Member Perry's right. Yes. Council Member Owen, he's gone. Council Member Reid.

Yes.

Council Member Winkler.

Yes.

Council Member Mover-Woolwich? Yes. Council Member Owen? Voting is closing. Chair, you have nine yes votes.

This is the ordinance passes unanimously. We'll go to consent calendar. Our next regular committee meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, July 22nd at 4 p.m. If there's no other matters, this committee stands adjourned.