Planning Committee - Regular Meeting

Opening statement.

Only those who have completed the speaker's form will be allowed to speak. The procedure shall be as follows. Staff will present

a summary of the request.

The applicant or representative will make a statement or presentation given reasons for the response. Representative, or opposition at any time. Resorted to KRS chapter 61 and

the commission's bylaw, the commission for the commission's and the public is that it will

be dealt immediately following the public hearing of

each case. No party will be allowed to speak during

the deliberations of this commission. Roll call, please.

Steph? Leonard? Present. Fisher?

Here.

Ma'am?

Here.

Lohan?

Here.

Benitez?

Here.

Cheek? Here. Stuber?

Here.

Bond? Here.

Twenty six.

Fisher? Lohan?

Yes.

Steph?

Yes.

Benitez?

Yes.

Leonard?

Yes.

Stuber? Yes. Bond?

Yes.

Mims? Yes. Cheek? Cistron?

Yes.

Up, please.

Lohan? Yes. Benitez?

Yes.

Stuber? Yes.

Mims?

Yes.

Fisher? Yes. Steph? Yes. Lanner? Yes. Bond? Yes. Cheek? Stating. So strong?

Yes. Before we get into the public hearing,

I have two people that signed up and speak on cases now

for the one of them.

So you could probably name things up and just answer two questions for me.

And

then next is, Peggy Murphy. Yes, ma'am. Do you have, that you're in support of an application, but not sure what we have. Okay. Thank you.

Is approximately five and a

half acres. The applicant is constructed

to construct a 161 unit complex consisting of three buildings and four stories each of the maximum height of the buildings of 47 feet. The square footage is about 52,000 with 252 parking spaces. Access will come from both the lane and from the private. There is an existing office building on-site that is proposed to be.

Is a view of

the subject property from Morrison Trail looking north. The building in the photo is the building that's supposed to be demolished. This is a view of subject property from Bluebird Lane. This is adjacent properties across Water Central to the south. And these are the adjacent properties across Bluebird Lane's base.

This is one more adjacent property. This is a nursing home with a site to the west. This is the development plan. As you can see, there are three buildings, and then access that came from on the top of plant and then another one the left side of the plant. This is the location of the waiver along the zoning boundary.

And then just for reference, there is that boundary again. Transportation planning and have given preliminary approval of the plan. The plan is consistent with the guidelines of plan 2,040 and is compatible with the mix of residential and community uses in the vicinity. The requested waivers act will justify for approval based on staff's analysis as well. So, departing actions today are to recommend that the city of Jefferson Town approve or the waiver to waive the property for a rear landscape buffer area, which we have zoning boundaries, and to recommend that the city of Jefferson town approve or revise the detailed DBP for the revised funding elements.

Any questions for staff? Correct. And I'll have the applicant, yeah, go and take that from them.

I'm not sure what the definition would be.

Then the.

I have a question. Abby, this property, if I look at the case history, this property was R 4

Okay. Just wanna make sure. Right. Okay. We appreciate it actually, mister chair, if it's okay. Do we have an extra five minutes? We have a little bit of information to get through, especially for traffic. That was a tie of community concern. Yeah. I will say, yes, this makes the and

Okay.

Okay.

You could have one. Okay.

Okay. You,

folks. Members of the meeting.

Are having trouble hearing.

Okay.

Visiting the property to your question, mister Stats is in the town center and is directly adjacent to the C T C zone. I'll show you in just a moment. By the Jefferson town is is a reason a lot of this kind of this will get down to include, which allows for a variety of uses. I have with me Derek Triplett, who's gonna talk in more detail about the plan, and then Doug Kinzer who's gonna talk about yes. Sorry. That's okay. When you speak to any and everyone, when you come to the mic, just because of the audio recording,

Okay.

I will do my best. Is that okay? Yeah. Okay. Just keep that volume up.

Keep that volume up. Okay. So if you go ahead and advance the slide, I wanted I wanted to kind of remind everybody, and this is for the benefit of the folks in the audience as well as the Jefferson Town City Council that's ultimately approved on this case. We're not sure right now whether we will have a another public hearing, a full evidentiary public hearing in Jefferson Town or whether we will go to what is their normal procedure which is McDonald's style, just is here. So some of the things I'm gonna say today may seem relatively foundational and normal for you all, but I wanna make sure that they get on the record in case we do not pull that entry here for JTAP.

So when you're looking at a robust development plan, this is the standard that's listed in the land development code. A through e of this data talk about attributes of the development, the concentration of natural resources, provision of open space, certain of the breaking of traffic. Really. Item f, which is hard models. That makes takes all of the place to present.

Which is compliance with compliance with with the land development code. All Can go to the next slide? And of course, when you all are enforcing the land development code, you need to look at the entirety of the code and understand the relationship between the conference and and the code itself. Here, the development that we're showing you has a single waiver being requested. No variance for height, no use change, no variance for waiver for parking, anything like that, no landscape waivers with the exception of an internal zoning line.

So we're not very paving perimeter landscaping. We're not reducing tree canopy, any of those things. And if you look at the second to last sentence, I think this is really important when you're considering the relationship between the comprehensive plan and the land development code. It says specifically this code provides regulations to implement, and that's a very important word, applicable goals, objectives, and policies of the adopted comprehensive plan. But what that means essentially is if you comply with the code, you comply with the comprehensive plan.

If you're doing the things that the land development code indicates you can or should do on a piece of property, and Derek will talk in more detail about how this plan does meet the requirements of the land development code, then you aren't necessarily complying with the conference plan. Go to the next slide. The relationship between the conference plan and revised development plans has also recently been acted upon by the state. This was an enactment from the 2024 session that came into effect last summer. And it says, except as provided section two, the ordinances, rules, regulations adopted pursuant to this chapter, which is KRS 100.

We're talking about the whole chapter by section. Shall be in the form of objective standards and shall be applied in the spirit. Now, I know that that has not been tested yet with relationship between already adopted land development codes and this statute. I But do think that it's important to kind of keep in mind when you're thinking about the relationship between the comprehensive plan, the land development code, and a particular development plan. Can we go to the next slide?

So as was mentioned before, this property has been zoned R 7 since 1979. In 1984, a small portion of it was zoned R 9, which later became 0 R 3. We have a part of that and the importance of that small piece of the property. What I think is relevant in here and kind of important here is this property has been I mean, always been thought of as a property that would have multi storey buildings. As you see on the right hand side of this page here, you've got basically four connected buildings.

Those buildings are four, five, and six stories tall on the plan that is noted that's noted on the plan in the lower left corner. So the idea that this property is going to have lower intensity uses on it really just hasn't held up historically. It's always been thought of as an area with some relatively intense development. You go to the next slide, please. So just to kind of understand where we are, you can see kind of lower center of this.

You've got kind of the historic loss from the decor of Jefferson Town, Morrison Trail, Taylor Little Road. We're a couple of blocks off of that. You can see the subject property with the red dot in it. You go to the next slide. This is just looking at worse trail. We can count these release. You can go to the next slide. This is Woodford Lane, subject property on the right. So here you can see the zoning in the area. The entire property that we're talking about as well as the adjacent senior living is R 7.

The purple area that you see there is either CTC 1 or CTC 2. That is Commercial Town Center 1 or Commercial Town Center 2. That's a zoning district that only exists in Jefferson Town, and is designed to foster sort of an urban environment in Jefferson Town. You can see as well, we've got some c one, some c d c ones, some multifamily. You have M 1, further down the Morrison Trail.

Actually, the site with the school is C 2, which is little unusual, but it is. So there are varieties of other districts in the area. Can go to the next slide, please? And this slide shows the forum districts as well. So we are in the Town Center Forum District, a forum district that is routinely thought of as one of the areas in our suburban context outside of the downtown where you're going to find dense development, mixed use, more intensity, more walkability.

And we think that the proposed plan that we're showing today will, be in all of those things. You can go ahead and advance the slide. So this is the, the proposed plan shown in context. We're gonna ask Derek to come up with some details about the plan on on this slide and the next slide, and then

Okay. I

won't spend too much time on this slide. So I think there's more relevant information on on the following slide. But one thing to point out here is I think there was some question about the connectivity and where we set in relation to there's a senior center across the Street Of Blue Bird. That's where they they don't live. But just south of the site is the Jefferson Town Nursing Home Rehabilitation Center. That is who we shared an access point with. They have a panhandle that reaches out to Bluebird, and that has existing access. He's been on it. So that's our secondary access to the site to go along with the primary access to Bluebird. Next slide, please.

So just to walk through this plan, the property is 5.45 acres. 5.1 of those acres are zone r seven, two point three five acres, part three. As was previously mentioned, this plan has gone through some recent revisions. The previous iteration had two five store buildings and one four store building equaling 189 units. The plan that is most recent and in front of you today is three four storey buildings with a 161 units.

Two of these buildings are 45 feet tall to accomplish those four stories. The l shaped one is 47 feet tall. In order to get the additional two feet of height above the 45, we've increased all of our setbacks by five feet, and that's allowed within the Lane Velo code. No variance. It's just built within the form district regulations.

As far as the density on this property is concerned, we are at 29.5 dwelling units per acre, and I think it's relevant to walk through the maximum permitted densities within the R 7 and 0 R 3 zones. So within the R 7 portion of the site, you are permitted 34.8 dwelling units per acre. Within the OR 3 portion of the site, they have a tiered breakdown of permitted density that's based on bedroom counts. For instance, a a a studio, you can get 435 units an acre for studio units. You can get one bedroom units, you can get up to two seventeen dwelling units per acre, and two bedroom plus, you can get up to 145 units per acre.

So from a conservative standpoint, if we were to assume all two plus bedrooms within the OR 3 portion combined with the maximum permitted density within our seven, the site could fit 225 units per maximum level density. So 64 more units than than what we're requesting here today. From an open space standpoint, the requirement is that 10% of the site needs to be set aside for open space, which is about 23,000 square feet, about half an acre would be required for the site. We're at 36,454 square feet of open space being provided. That's being provided via patios, balconies, a pool, picnic areas, and general green space that would set this

So this was the default that it was on?

No. The default was

on speakers three, but it

kept on this one and then you moved it up.

Mm-mm. It was on

the speaker three, and then we switched it to that one.

Alright. Let's see if this works.

We'll see if that works. Well, it's happening with some people participating in one. It's also for hopefully, you know, some people find that they could bear with more persons that they couldn't hear. Let's see how this goes and based on feedback, we'll see if we have the we did again, but we adjusted the volume. Didn't even Alright.

We're going to talk and just tell me if they'll

be It's like MA's microphone's on, but everybody else's is all distant and muffled. Right. Yeah. Like, I can't change what's say.

Can you can you hear me talk, Rachel?

Yeah. That works, Jenny.

It's it's it's okay if I'm speaking. It's very it's very muted. It's like I can hear it, but it's very garbled.

Oh, can Amy hear this? So people can hear. I can go get another recorder just for the the record to record in a different way. But if it's picking up, then it will full sync. At least, when I have the audio and the video. So we can I believe we can move ahead? Okay. Who you actually or are you I would just go ahead and just any of them, if there's an appeal or anything, I just wanted to make sure that will go get in the one that it is. Could people verify that they are hearing it? It's just muted.

If you listen to it in the audio, you can crank it up really loud, and you'll probably be able to hear it. I think we're I'm just gonna go get another quarter to be safe. Oh.

If if it if it's okay, I know that this is going to this recording is gonna be heard by the Jefferson Town City Council, I really wanna make sure that they have the ability to hear as much of it as possible. If it's gonna take five or ten minutes, I would rather get the audio on the Internet instead of trying to kinda chill along.

Gonna go.

Okay.

Alright. We'll take it above. Oh, I'm gonna be surprised.

Thank you. Alright. I'm actually too well. So fine. I just got it.

So you think wage reduction will be open tomorrow?

I can hear you, but it is it is muted.

Friday,

yes. Saturday, no.

K.

If if everything is not yeah. If everything still stays the same like it usually does, they'll be they'll close on Saturday for Memorial Day. Okay. But they'll be over tomorrow.

And and then they'll be off Monday too. Right?

Correct. Because they're originally closed on Mondays anyway.

Yeah.

So that's why they take the Saturdays off. Okay. Right. I can hear really well now. Okay. Did she come through and talk?

Yes.

Okay.

So this is more. She's like, changed the setting, and I don't know. Vehicle video is picking up. You might have an issue with when we get that on on speaker. Okay. The processor is gonna get it to it. Here's the. It sounds like everything. Okay. Yeah.

Is it also coming through the value?

Maybe give me one second. I can for the person helping us. I can hear well now. So there it is.

If Amy is able to come through and then we believe everyone else can.

The problem will be online. We undid what we just did before the meeting, then actually Sure. It's online. Yeah.

That's true.

Do we feel confident that what's been said to this point is recordable or transcribable?

I don't know. I can say is people could hear, which means that it's picked up video per Yeah. The audio that that was shown on PowerPoint presentations. All I did is Perfect. Okay. Audio was coming through, which means there is audio. The way they described it was soft and garbled. So it is or whatever that means. I didn't listen to it, so I don't know if you want. But I believe we have an audio of what was said. I'd have to go back to verify if it's if anything after. Okay.

We

can talk it over to consider every bit. Yeah.

Put the chair back in here.

We'll have to ask the chair to move if there's No.

The thing is is it's it's the new computer.

Yeah. And

so when we tested it out with Vernon the other day, it was fine. It went through. We could talk, and then you could hear me, everything. I don't know what has happened since then, but I know this morning when we had landmarks, it was not working. I had to literally hold the microphone over the computer so it could be harder. Yeah. So how's she feeling? Is she feeling better?

Yeah. She's actually gonna try

to come in. When

you move June June 5 is my last day, and so I'll start over there on June 8. Already in Cheryl Woods? Oh, yeah. I know Cheryl. Oh, yeah. She's a she's a hoot. So We're trying to look at it. Tried to supervisor. She's a she's a spicy one, I tell you. Hopefully, it won't be

too hard for

her to No requirement. Figure it

out or if we need to, like, reboot and all that. So hopefully, once I figure something out, then I can definitely let her know. And if she comes in tomorrow, the was she out yesterday too? Yeah. Was she okay. Because I worked from home yesterday, so I wasn't for sure if she came in or

Okay. So she was just off today. So You said I'm But I think it was.

Yeah. Sounded pretty bad the

other day when she was at work. I could tell she was getting sick, and those allergies

kick your ass.

I think it probably is. Yeah.

Yeah. That's why I'll

send her

Yeah. This is the commissioner.

We can get started with our past Tuesday.

Okay. So so I understand what happened. And just for the record as well, this is case number 25BB0094. Location is 10619, Water Century. Okay.

Thank you, mister chairman, members of the commission. My name is Cliff Ashburner of Dinsmore And Shoal, South District, Suite 2500, Global 40202. Here today on behalf of the applicant, as was mentioned by the staff, this is a revised development plan with one, waiver associated with the plan. You go ahead and advance the slide. So I think it's important in a case like this when we're talking about the revised development plan to understand what the planning commission's rules and review, what the land development committee says about the review.

And there's a there's a a relatively recent state statute, but I'll touch on it as well. What you can see here is the standard that is set up in our development code when we do a revised plan. And you

can see a through e

really touch on different aspects of the plan, see the conservation of natural resources, the provision of open space, safer efficient, even better pedestrians and vehicles. But really, if if you look at f, compliance with the conference plan, that really takes care of a through e as well. So if you're complying with the conference plan, then you are meeting a through e. And it it's important to understand the relationship between the conference of plan and the land development code when you're looking at development. This site has had this was mentioned in several different rules on the front over time.

I'll talk about one of them in moment, but I do think it's important to understand the relationship between conference plan and

the code. You can go

to the next slide, please. So this is also in our end development code. And when you're looking at the development and you're looking at the code, look at the whole code. So one sense here is really important. This is sort of a statement of intent, but it's also a statement of the relationship.

Specifically, this code, the land development code, provides regulations to implement applicable goals, objectives, policies of the adopted comprehensive plan, which means that the land development code is sort of regulatory expression of those goals and objectives. And it is how the community has decided. If you comply with the code, you are complying with our conference plan. You go to the next slide. There's been some further addressing of development plans, by the state legislature.

This was enacted in 2024. It's effective in 2025. You can see subsection one there. Ordinances, rules, and regulations about pursuant to this chapter, governing subdivision class and development plans shall be in the form of objective standards that shall be applied ministerial. Now I recognize that this is a new and exit, and I don't I'm not aware of any court cases or any guidance that indicate how this statute relates to already adopted land development codes and comprehensive plans.

But you can see the state's intent here is to try to bring development plan review back closer to a code review. You can to the next slide, please. So this property was originally zoned R 7 in 1979. In 1984, a little piece of it was zoned R 9, which later became 0 R 3. Derek Triplett, the man who's on development, will talk a bit about that in more detail when he talks about the plan.

The subject property is is really kind of a portion of the, I'll call it, land east section here. You can see on this plan, there are four connected buildings. So it's one building or four connected buildings. Importantly, when this was approved, those buildings were planned to be four, five, and six stories in height. So the concept of relatively intense development on this particular property has been in place for many, many years.

That the development hasn't materialized yet is probably a function of the market more than anything else. But the idea that this property should be developed with multi story buildings, multi family buildings has been in place for quite a while. The area in the middle is a senior senior housing and rehabilitation facility that has been built, and you'll see that on the next slide, please. So this is, the subject property. You can see the pin in it.

Just to the left, you can see Jefferson County implementation. That's that portion of the development that has been constructed. Bluebird Lane is on the East, Morrison Trail on the South. There's a private road that is shared with Jefferson County rehabilitation to the north. They obviously have library, senior center, academic, sorry, for individual excellence.

And then as you go down in towards the center bottom of this photo, you get really to the crossroads, which everybody, I think, we all consider Downtown J So that's the crossing of Morrison Trail, Sandersville Road. Importantly, J Town itself is taking a lot of actions, rezoning areas, and actually adopted the CTC zoning districts in order to foster in more downtown Channel Center sort of feeling in that area. You go to the next slide. So this is these are surface photos. They're kind of similar to what Abby showed.

This is from Larson Trail, properties on the left. This is from Bluebird, the property is on the right. You can see the larger building there. This is some of the zoning in the area I mentioned before, CTC 1, CTC 2, those are zoning districts that only exist in Germiston Town. It's the commercial town center. You can see the OR 3 portion, and then obviously there are a variety of zoning districts in the area. Seven, which is multifamily, we'll talk about today. And one, as you go down the hill on Morrison Trail, there's industrial property there. The Academy for Individual Excellence is actually some c two. So there there is a mix of some districts in the area.

Julie advances slide. This just kinda shows the buildings and importantly, town center designation. The town center is the form of district that applies to this property. And if you look at plan twenty forty, town centers typically have a very good in the suburban areas in our community here. There's more intensity, more density, more pedestrian infrastructure, mixed use, multifamily, things of that nature, all coming together to create that small town town.

So those bigger than village is smaller than the other. So how about 10%? Can you go to next slide, please? So this is the plan in context. I wanted to show you this just to kind of show where the property is relative to selling another non single family uses of 800, many of which find worse and trail. And I'm gonna ask Diera Triplett to come up, and he's gonna walk you through the development. And I'll come back up and Diane is on track.

Eric Triplett, land design and development, 503 Washburn Avenue, 40222. One thing I'm gonna touch on on this slide is just to point out the access points, relative to the surrounding context of the area. On the left hand side of this plan, there's an existing access drive that serves the Jefferson Town Nursing Home Rehabilitation Center that currently has an existing access. He's been located on it, and we are using that as a secondary means of access to the site. The primary access point is located on Bluebird directly across from the Jefferson Town Senior Center.

The location of that curve cut is really dictated by standard practice as far as you wanna locate these access points directly across from one another so you're avoiding those conflicting left turns. That's some that is applied across any development where an opportunity arises to align those access points. Next slide, please. So for this plan itself, just to walk through some of the numbers here, the property as a whole is 5.45 acres. 5.1 acres of the site is Zone R 7.

0.35 acres of the site is Zone 0 R 3. Previous versions of this plan did consider two five store buildings and one four store building to equal a 189 units. The iteration that we have in front of you today is three four store buildings to equal a 161 units. The two of the buildings in the back are 45 feet tall to accomplish those four stories. The l shaped one is 47 feet tall.

To account for the additional two feet above the 45 foot height, we have increased all setbacks by five feet, which is allowed within the land development code for that setback for additional building height. From a density standpoint, the 161 units on this property across 5.45 acres is 29.5 dwelling units per acre. To compare that to the maximum permitted density allowed within the zoning districts on this property. R 7 allows 34.8 units per acre, and OR 3 has a tiered maximum density allowance that's based on the bedroom count of the unit. For instance, a studio apartment would be you'd be permitted 435 dwelling units per acre for a studio, 217 dwelling units per acre for a one bedroom, and for two plus bedrooms you're at 145 dwelling units per acre.

So from a conservative standpoint, if we were to assume all two plus bedrooms within the OR 3 portion of the site, In totality, we'd be at 225 maximum units permitted on the site based on the existing zone, which is 64 more units than

what we're proposing here today.

For the open space, we are can you go back a slide, please?

For the open space, we are

required 10% of this lot area to be dedicated to open space. That's about half an acre, 23,000 square foot and within that range. We are proposing 36,454 square feet of open space within this plan. That is accomplished through patios, balconies, pool, picnic areas, and green space that would satisfy open space departments. So for a green space to satisfy open space, you need 6,000 square feet of contiguous space with a minimum dimension of 30 feet.

So areas that did not count towards our open space would be we have a dog park on-site. It doesn't meet 6,000 square feet. That doesn't count towards our open space. And we are not counting the detention basin either. We would be able to count the detention basin if we were to incorporate a recreational aspect to it, but we did not go that route.

So we are not taking credit for the grace base associated with the detention basin from a human space standpoint. So based on what we are providing, we're 53% greater than what the minimum would be. It's about almost 13,000 square feet of difference there. To touch on tree canopy a little bit, right now the site is covered at 6% tree canopy. Jefferson Town has a different land development code that differs from tree canopy requirements than you would see in Loupetro.

So the total requirement of tree canopy would be 10% coverage. However, once we account for all the trees required within the landscape buffer areas, all the trees required within interior landscape islands within the parking lot, and you can see those represented on this plan itself, that equates to 90 trees. Jefferson Town of of lots 720 square feet per tree, so, that gives us about one and a half acres worth of tree canopy to be installed on this property, which is a 20 tree canopy cover. So a significant increase to what currently exists on the property. From a stormwater standpoint, I mentioned our detention basin and the plan upper left hand corner that's been reviewed by the City of Jefferson Town as well as MSD.

And so we'll be compliant from a storm water mitigation standpoint as well. We have also coordinated with the City of Jaytown and those conversations are ongoing about potential downstream improvements to their drainage facilities. And we are committed to working with them to accomplish that goal. The city of Jaytown did have some concerns about potential cost features on the property. There has been geotechnical exploration conducted on this property via 15 different soil borings and surface level site reconnaissance.

Neither of those efforts resulted in any evidence found for CARS features on the site. From a traffic standpoint, I just want to touch on the fact that there is a design road improvement plan for Waterson Trail that would stretch between Shelby Street down to Rug Creek and includes the frontage of this property. Ryan's Way has been dedicated along this frontage to account for those improvements. Those improvements would include a three lane section for the entire stretch of waters and trail along that route with some areas for on street parking. We have the civil plans for that and that speed that's available via public available information through KYTC as well as KITA, the Kentucky and regional planning and development agency.

I believe they are in various stages of right of the acquisition for that current. Next slide, please. So these are some building elevations. The one thing I'll point out here is the bottom version is what you would see facing Larson Trail. You can see the step down where it actually gets to three stories along that section.

That is where the top patio would be located. So we have various materials, varying colors and materials on the site within these facades, two different brick colors as well as two different types of party cement site. Next slide, please. Just run through these more of the same, just giving you an idea of of the aesthetics of the facade here. For the waiver request, Cliff touched on this a little bit, but we do have a a split zone site where we have OR 3 at the corner and then the rest of the site is R 7.

Originally, that corner was Zone R 9, but as R 9 ceased to exist, it transitioned to 0 R 3. Both zones permit multi family. Oddly enough, the regulation that's triggering this landscape buffer requirement is called a property perimeter landscape buffer area. Although in this case, it's been deemed by by staff that is being applied internal to our site. So, it would really just not make a lot of sense to comply with that as this is one holistic multi family development. So that's why we're receiving the waiver request in that instance. Next slide, please.

I will hand it off to Diane. Thank you.

Diane Zimmerman, 12803. 9 Miles Pike, Prospect 40059. I decided that it would be appropriate to start with this slide to talk about traffic context and how it fits into the complete streets. And then if you look to the far right, it's urban or urban core. And then our users, when we're talking about vehicles, we will accept some level of congestion and delay because we want to slow down the vehicles to make it feel safer for pedestrians and bicyclists.

So that would be the focus on waters and trails specifically. Next slide. This t I did complete a TIS for this project. It is below the metro's requirement for a traffic impact study, a 161 units would generate 60 9AM peak hour trips and eighty five PM peak hour trips. Next slide. So here's the cover of the report. Next slide. I think one of the advantages of this project is being in the urban core of Downtown J Town is the distribution of traffic. You can see there's multiple directions that this traffic can disperse to the highway network. Next slide.

In conclusion, this development will have a minimal impact on the existing highway network. There is one intersection that changed in the PMP hour from the existing level service c to a future level service d. This is an intersection of Waters And Trail and Bluebird Lane. This is also the location of the improvement of the three lane session, and then these results do not reflect that because we are uncertain of the exact construction date of that project. Next slide.

If you just one thing I wanna mention about traffic studies and track, why we use them. Everybody feels traffic a little bit differently. I never have a memory. Everybody's going too slow. We're not going fast.

I'm sure other people think I'm going too fast. But when you when you really count the cars on the road, use nationwide data to come up with generation numbers, you get a truer vision of what the traffic really is on a daily basis regardless of the experience individual experience you might have. I wanted to put these renderings up here just to give you an idea of the quality of the development that we're talking about. These are our core of the buildings, so we do not walk up. This is not a garden style apartment community.

Each unit does have a balcony as you can see there. There's lots of outdoor space and opportunities for people to be outside. There are other amenities that are included. Obviously, we talked about the rooftop. There's a dog wash, park, business center. There's the pool, show them the plan. There's picnicaries, barbecue, Getting parking lots. So we think this is gonna be a very high quality development. We can go to the next slide, please. This is just another building rendering.

This is kind of looking at the site and what are some credibility on the right. And we can see other vision there if you go to the next slide, please. And then this is one of the smaller buildings. We go to the next slide. So I just wanna wrap up with a couple quick comments.

First, obviously, we agree with the staff's analysis. We do have a request that might have been seven be eliminated. I think on seven specifically says there shall be metal blasting on the site. All blasting in Kentucky is subject to state regulations depending on structures that are around you, the proximity to you, and their exposure. There may be different regulations apply, and we are committed, of course, to applying or to complying rather with those regulations.

So I believe we demonstrated to you today that the plan applies with the development code. It exceeds in many ways with the requirements of the code. This property has been settled and intended for relatively intense development for many, many years. And we think that that is that along with the staff's analysis should give you a sufficient basis to support a positive recommendation in City Of Jefferson Town on both the way within the last plan.

Yeah.

You want the color on the Dara speaking from? Okay.

Especially

They're like, And the reason I'm saying this is because at the top, you have one access to get back to those two children from the Country Dollar Park here. If something should happen, that that's one block in. Are you are you speaking? I believe it's not what you're seeing on the ground of the parking areas. Right right in there.

I think that's the closest access point to this area.

So this site presents some topographic challenges, and we actually have a retaining wall between that location and Good Samaritan Drive. So that connectivity is is not feasible based on the topographic changes. We do have two means of access to the site, and although we are below the 200 unit threshold for

the part of those Yeah. Understand. True. True. True. To come back to you. True. Do we have an opening? They have that lines up with your dumpster access. But if that first, I'm pretty sure that our second. Well, that first entrance is blocked. I'm usually just by ourselves. And

I'm When you refer to the first entrance.

The one.

That first left there?

Yeah. Yeah. Right there. That's your interest to go back to your your the two books. Right. So there's no other extra factor. And and for you know,

I understand. I think that that concern could be applicable to

any development I'm sitting here looking at it and say that you've got two, four, four. And then is. But I mean, it's just about seven. Your Your side and other billing, it does everything in. Yes. But you'll have

since. And

then that's just the thought.

That's correct.

Right. So so part of that coordination is the differentiation between Jaytown Public Works and MSD. So the downstream improvements are being in coordination with, the city of Jaytown Public Works. And so there's multiple routes that we're looking at, whether it's just improving the roadside ditches along Bluebird or generating a completely new route to outlet this storm water directly to Chetwood Front. So that's an ongoing coordination that really is is more is is well served at the civil construction plan review phase, and we're really getting to that level of detail.

And what's the extension basin? So

it is almost 12,000 square feet, and we have to provide a minimum of 13,000 cubic feet of storage. Okay.

Anyone else?

Yes.

And then the.

Correct. Once the.

Yeah.

Correct.

Any other questions mentioned? Okay. We'll continue to have with support, and each person has three minutes to speak. We have nine people signed up to speak and support. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna call the first five.

If you could just stand, where you are, raise your right hand. I'll swear you in. And then when you call to the podium, state your full name, address, and ZIP code for me. Paula Hanson, You can stay wherever you have for them. Will Parker.

Paula Henson, you're first. You know, once again, when you come, just state your full name, address, and ZIP code, and then you can take your statement, and each person, once again, will have three minutes.

Hi. My name is Paula Vincent.

I live at 5413 Road, Kentucky 40299.

Thank you. Great.

And I'm the owner of

the third party night shop right there in the downtown Jaysounde, which is nearby, and it's enough where we are talking about today. And I'm enthusiastic supporter of this project so much so that I've been spending my personal time talking

to other citizens and other business owners.

I'm really expressing my belief in the development and how it'd be a really great opportunity for our city and for us. So we encourage to bring new members to our community, and I think this will be a resounding success as a complex. Try and buy a rent home right now in Jaytown. There's just really limited availability. It's hard to find. And Jaytown is a very sought after growth in community that you will want

to move to, and there

really just isn't a lot of inventory right now. Believe me. The project is addressing a real need, and I currently buckle the existence. The walkability and likability of the Jaytown Gas Light District is one of its major charm factors. And one of the many reasons we actually invested in turning an old gas station into a place to invite that community into the downtown area.

And

I am a fan of of the luxury apartments bringing more

life into the district,

more neighbors, more commerce, more people attending events, more people shopping

monthly, investing emotionally in our area, and that match tremendously to people

like me who own small businesses. I'm not even like to add. I'm a fan of all the projects that are bringing the community into the downtown center into the gas, like, district as we. I'm a fan of the gas, like, festival. I'm a fan

of beer fest, the farmers market,

the trolley block, the night market, and the chili tour. One of the city's big monikers is live, work, play, J I'm like, yes. If this is the right attitude, and this is what I wanna be a part of. These product projects are all about different people, and I'm a fan of all of them. All of the things that bring people into the downtown Jaytown. I'm personally a little terrified that it was a Bloomberg project. It's halted. It's the next step. Like, the historic Jaytown is kinda slipping away down the community, down towards the Jean Center. We see that in but it's happening in the suburbia right now.

I really wanna bring these people into our downtown community. J Town is gonna bring something I think very spectacular. I wanna be a part of it, and I wanna welcome these new tenants to our community. My garden shop is a small business right here. And for me, this is very serious. This is how I feed my family. My three kids go to Jaytown Elementary right there, and they would be students alongside these new community members, and I'm embracing and very excited about that. So the one thing I do know really well, not. I love plants. And if plants aren't growing, they're dying, and cities are the same way.

We must grow. We must embrace being robust and exciting places, really an inviting atmosphere. There is, I'll have, a real fear amongst some other citizens and business owners that I spoke to of the opposition crowd. Many supporters have personally shared with me that they will not speak in favor of the bluebird departments for fear of retaliation, like,

kind of,

mentality and the abuse of neighbor nature that that could happen. There's a threat to business and a personal smear campaign, but there's a concern.

Will. My name is Will. We're at

3616 Collins River Drive In 40241. I'm speaking today on the economic impact the word. I'm a numbers guy, so I'm gonna be brief to the point that there's a lot of topics today, but I just think it's important to put on record. Some of the numbers that I pulled right there on the statistics, National Multifamily Housing Council, National Association of Homeowners. This is a 161 unit market rate apartment complex.

It represents about a $50,000,000 investment in j ten. And the funds, the typical suburban multifamily of this size could bring about 300 to 375 people homes for all of them. Residents will generate approximately 6 to $10,000,000 annually. And that's just not one time. That's year after year after year.

Restaurants, grocery stores, gas stations, barber shops, retail stores, health care providers can all benefit from this. Additionally, there's an estimated annual property tax generation that could range from 450,000 to 700,000. That's schools, infrastructure, emergency services, local government services. While this is being constructed, it will employ approximately a 100 construction and trade jobs, electricians, plumbers, concrete contractors, suppliers, engineers, and landscapers. There will be a few long term employment.

And most notably, what I like about this is it's a bit walking distance of downtown, daytime, and the store area. That's all I have for today. My

name is Chris Hansen. I'm a local business owner, developer, and lifelong member of

the community. I'm with you.

I'm a great gentleman from. Thought we assumed that was the

wrong way. Okay. Oh, maybe so

I'm just set it up. What's that? The the 4299. My name is Chris Henson. I'm a local business owner and developer and lifelong member of this community. A few years ago, when my wife and I opened above the dirt in Jaytown, City Officials approached me and asked me to become involved in what was then called the Main Street program. I agreed because I wanted to help improve and revitalize the city I grew in. That effort later became the vision of Jefferson Town and Main Street program. As part of that program, the city received a grant and commissioned a professional development study identifying several well hanging fruit opportunities throughout Jefferson Town. One of those sites in that study was Blue Bird and Morrison Trail.

The recommendation for that site was apartments. The recommendation did not come from the developer. It did not come from outside investors. It came from the city supported planning effort intended to help guide Jefferson's future growth and development. Those concepts were publicly presented at the motorcycle museum. Residences attended council members attended the mayor attended. The response was overwhelmingly positive. The vision presented was one of reinvestment, redevelopment, walkability, housing opportunity, and. I believe that was the direction the city wanted to go. And because of my involvement and those discussions and my professional background in development, I later spoke with several developers I knew professionally.

One became interested in this bluebird site. Conversations with public city leadership, economic development officials, and others involved in redevelopment discussions. The response at the time was encouraging and supportive. The property owners of the property were contacted and then was eventually placed under contract. And we believe this property is already zoned or set.

This is not a request to force apartments into an area where multifamily housing is prohibited. The zoning already anticipates this type of residential development. That distinction matters because at this stage, the question before this committee should be primarily whether or the project complies with the land development code and applicable development standards, not whether some individuals personally above above the apartments or future residents who may live this. Unfortunately, most of this public discussion surrounding this project has become emotional hostile and in some cases, openly dismissive towards renters and multifamily housing in general. Comments have been made in mind renters are somehow less desirable members of the community.

I believe that renter is disappointing and beneath the standard JCom should set that people who may eventually live here are not as direct concepts. Their future neighbors, working families, medical staff, young professionals, seniors, veterans, people who wanna live in Jay County contribute to this community. I also think it's important to recognize the resident involved here. The property is already zoned appropriately when redevelopment studies commissioned by the city itself designed for site. For this exact type of use and substantial investment decisions are made relying on those tax, there must be some set of level of consistency and predictability in the process.

Otherwise, the property owners, investors are wondering are they wondering whether the COVID actually matters or whether public pressure can override long established zoning expectations? Growth discussions are healthy. Debate is healthy, but redevelopment cannot succeed if the goals change. We cannot ask for growth, revitalization, and investment only in convenient or politically easy. Thank you. Thank you, miss.

My

name is Peggy Meredith. My address is 2413 Staplechase Drive in Jefferson Town, Kentucky 40299. And here just really casually, I have lived in Jefferson Town for thirty years. My eldest graduated in 1999 from JTN and my baby in 2016 with a daughter in 2013. Okay. I am only about 17 years, and I've lived in a beautiful home that I've left. I'm tired of taking care of it, and I am looking for a super apartment building. I originally lived in Baldrick Creek Apartment was my first move in to Jaystown in 1997. And it was a nice establishment then. Thirty years later, it's not so much.

And I'm looking for an apartment in Jaytown. And, unfortunately, there is nothing that compares to what this is offering for someone. So just myself, my friend, I've brought, who had to move out of Jaytown because Older Creek is no longer the quality luxury type of apartment that people like myself and become professionals are looking for. I think about my community and my neighbors, and I'm sure they didn't want a lot of those developments. I'm from Valley Station, and JTown was nothing but a farm as I was growing up.

A lot has changed, and I absolutely love the city. But the bottom line is I don't get to vote in the next election in JTown because I have to move outside the city into luxury apartments on Kendall on Taylorsville. I am looking forward to this community being built for people such as myself and the new young kids that wanna come in, such as my professional sons that have graduated from Jaytown and still live in the community. I don't wanna fight with my neighbors. I don't know anything about development.

It sounds good. I got the first information I received here is a firefighter, even hearing about that, is concerning my son as a firefighter at the DOE. I don't know if this is the same thing. But I want more than anything for my community neighbors to know that we can make this work. It's changed. I don't want change. I'm selling my home for 25 years, and I'm nervous about it. But the thought of being able to stay in J Town in these apartments, they said we're gonna buy them. So thank you for listening.

Thank you. Eric Loni?

Eric Loni, public at 151 East

Bluejay Road, Louisville, Kentucky 40229. I've worked for for going on twenty two years now. Worked for my dad from the time I graduated last week.

I drive up and down the

Larson Trail 12 to 20 times a day So between my home and my warehouse, that spot has set in the entire twenty two years I have worked there. The one small building on that site was occupied for probably the first five or six years of my point. Since then, it is second. Area is outside of the disordered gaslight square, but still with the J Town. And as far as all this about fire departments and being able

to get them to get equipment in

there, that's almost right across from Station 1 in Jaytown.

And I promise you, they'll avoid it more than love that and they are probably one of

the best departments around this region that I've ever seen. I think it brings a lot of good tax revenue for the city of Jaytown. They are growing. They are growing. They are growing. The gaslight festival is growing every We have new restaurants in bars for them. We've turned the whole thing to get those coffee shop. And I'll tell you what, if you ever come to Jaytown, it doesn't matter if it's 08:00 in the morning or 04:00 in the afternoon. That coffee shop is crazy, man. President's been out there twenty two years. I think it might be a little bit good for JTemp because there hasn't been any new political developments really built in before in that region

Thank you. Don Wenzel. 12109 Road. I do have few slides which are being queued up. So I am a Miss. Apologies. 40299. Yep. You bet. So I'm both a business owner and a resident just outside of J Town, owning a historic property that has been renovated and saved from demolition.

I'd like to speak to more of the technical aspects of this proposal today, of which I am vastly in favor of because it meets square down the runway of what our land development code, is is trying to accomplish. So next slide, please. So a few points here. Just to reiterate, this project aligns with the current zoning of R 7, which does permit the high density residential use that is being proposed for this development. And moreover, this has been the zoning for a good forty plus years.

So residents who I I don't think anybody can say that didn't have a heads up that that was the intended use of this property. And everyone has had the opportunity to make other decisions about where they could live relative to the expected use of this property. This, this project also aligns with, well, not officially, approved, the published Jefferson Town master plan. And there's a couple of key elements of that master plan that I'd like to call out to your attention. Importantly, only 5% of J Town's core downtown is zoned for multifamily housing.

You've heard some other testimony here today. There's a desperate need for multifamily housing, not only in the JTAP community, but in the larger Louisville Metro community. This proposal really would address that significant need, and that has been called out by the authors of this J Town plan. We also, recognize that multi family housing needs will be ramping up in our community.

I think we're all aware of the

very large northern hospital, children's hospital complex that's being built in the near future about two miles away. This would be a logical place for some of those employees to live. The master plan also proposes that this site being used principally for high density residential. So, again, consistent with what the j camp planners at least have published is not adopted. Next slide, please. The TIS, the traffic impact study, you heard Karen speak to this. It supports this development. There you will hear some opposition based upon traffic,

but, again, facts vary that this project can support it.

Time is limited here,

so I'm gonna jump down to the need for a fully integrity plan development code. Look, this proposal meets the very four corners of the land development code. And if we want consistency in people developing properties, we need to respect the fact that we follow the rules. This project follows the rules. Thank you

very much. Thank you. Melina?

Good afternoon. My name is Molina Hatterachi. I live at 9403 Woolworths Way, Jefferson Town, Kentucky 40299. So I'm a resident of Jaytown, and I'm here to support the Blueberry flops. But I wanna be honest, I came in super skeptical skeptical to this project. Housing accessibility really matters to me. I want development in our community to help people put down roots. I want to build connection, and I want them to stay. When I first looked at the project, I wasn't sure about the process process provided, whether those values were really baked into the design. And I was ready to come here and oppose it.

But then I dug into how the project actually came about. As you heard, the city of J Town Commission studies that looked into public input and real research that identified what responsible growth in the Gas Light District will go away. Global plan twenty twenty twenty also reflects those values. So you've heard a lot about the development code and whether we meet those restrictions, but I'm really here to talk about the values that what developments would look like in the city. We want connected, healthy, authentic, sustainable, and equitable development.

This project doesn't just follow that framework. It is and it's informed by it. So when we look at a connected community, the national and local research is clear that if you wanna reduce traffic, you build you build equitable housing where people work. The industrial park, the New York Complex, all of us are gonna have so many employees, and we need luxury apartments even if I don't know if I'll be able to afford them. I hope I can't because they look really nice. We need those there. We need healthy walkable communities. J Town's walkability score should be off through the roof because you have so many accessible businesses, restaurants. We have the local Walmart that is all right away. The new amphitheaters, you have the events.

This is gonna be a highly sought after development. And that's not by accident. That's by design. The developers on this project have also been super receptive to public input. That first round that went into the city of Jaytown studies, that had public input in it. Then they got a lot of community input through online Facebook. That's essentially a second round of community input before they ever had to have this official public hearing for the first of a particular public record. And that's been really responsive development. I want a project that comes to my city that is responsive to the community and puts those interests first, and this developer has done that. Our public engagement process does need work.

I'm not gonna act like it doesn't. And I hope that this helps J Town through Metro understand what our they really wanna be able to do and say when it comes to new developments. But I think to punish this development opportunity because that that engagement process is a little bit unwieldy would really harm J Town at this time. So I hope that this I I hope you recommend approval, and I hope this approval process really encourages earlier engagement, more formal, more binding agreements with communities. And I hope that you recommend the approval of Bluebird Lost because I would like to move there instead of the money pit of a house that I live in now. So thank you very much for your

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Thank you. David Lacey?

Lacey. 10600 Trail 40299. I'm the executive pastor of First Baptist Church in Germantown, As this new executive pastor, took over in January of Jefferson Town Church, because we got a lot of over over demographics. And one of my concerns is if we do not change and keep the status quo, we will be a restaurant or a liquor store or a hotel in the next thirty years. Like, when you're looking things that not growing, things are not doing that, that's a symptom of the problem, which is growth.

So we at First Baptist, Jeff and Tom, it's myself, Dave Lacey, we are excited about this new bluebird. It is going to increase the harvest. And go into the city where they are, and that's what I'm envisioning for this project almost like the North Ponds area, which a lot of my friends been there and grabbed us for a little while. So if you can walk around and have that community, when I saw that beautiful

Okay. Thank you.

With that, commissioner, if you have any questions with those who spoke in support. Alright. We'll move to the opposition. And because we gave, support, an extra five minutes, we're gonna give, the opposite, opposition. Instead of three minutes, you will have, three and a half minutes each. Can we do that on? Yeah. Okay. Three and a half minutes each. Just like, those that spoke in support, when I call your name, state your, well, what would

you call it? I'm sorry.

State your full name, address, and zip code.

I'll Richard Dunn.

Debbie Lawson.

John Savage,

Randy Lawson,

and Paula Evans. Raise your right hand for me.

Richard Dunn. 3600 Canberra Drive, Jefferson Terrace, Kentucky 40299. I've had a lot of concerns when I came up here, and a lot of them have been addressed. I I think the traffic studies are the key for me because, I worked on Grand Avenue, which is the other end of Bluebird. And getting in and out of traffic, you you had to depend on somebody to let you out.

And, that's kind of ridiculous. And therefore, you've got cars sitting. You've got, air pollution. And my son has recently bought a house on Grand Avenue, and I'm worried about the amount of traffic that's gonna be transferred from Larson Trail over to Grand and then it's going up to Grand and it's getting out on the light by, Taylorville Road. And Taylorville Road is already high.

So, it's it's probably not a great, idea to me to have apartments in that particular area. It might happen, and if it does, then it does. But, my problem is I had a question like, David there. The I had two sons that were firefighters for the city of Jefferson. They they were battalion chiefs and they worked 30 before they retired.

And I think that nursing home needs access, better access so that, these people can get care because they're not in the best of shape anyway. If it's up to me, I would, extend that nursing home, where people couldn't drive and get better access. But, that's just me, and I don't have any money, so it's not gonna happen. Thank you.

Thank you. David Lawson.

My name is Debbie Lawson. I live at 10714 Old Tatersville Road 40299 for over fifty years. I'm gonna touch upon a couple of things. This lady here at one time had a question about the I'm sorry, I just went blank. Oh, the senior citizen of nursing home and somebody just rolled up and said, oh, they don't live there. Senior citizens, they do not live there, but many of the days, there's up to a 100

or so that come in and out of there.

Right on the other side, these these are gonna be between the senior citizens and the nursing home. The nursing home is nursing home and rehab, they're there the whole time. Someone else has never mentioned either. There are that little lane that they're planning on using as their second lane goes back to 24 units of senior citizens living, not in the nursing home, but it's a separate building from there. Bed and road, ambulance, fire truck, the good Samaritan, which is not called anymore, really doesn't have the best entrance to even ambulances now, and that's gonna be worse.

Talking a little bit about the traffic. This is nothing that's on my paper. The traffic coming in, there is no light there. And right now, ran all the way out of it. I don't know if it's great. It's all get backed up. You can sit up to seven minutes to get out of Great Avenue, which no to Taylor Road. Snow White. It's already freeway there now. So what's it gonna be when all these units come? One of them mentioned that it's large enough to take up to 350 people to live in that. They could live in that. And then the traffic person said, yeah. We did a study. There'll be 69 each morning going out.

So that's a big difference of number of people that could live there and people who think it's sunny of coming out of that entrance. Now this is also gonna be right in the middle. What I actually came up to talk about is the historical. They mentioned something about the historical part. It does put down some to take us to the road and Morrison Trail. But I wanna mention many of the places. This building just will not fit in the middle of all this. It's gonna be touching. Most

of

these all within two blocks. The historical places around there. The first senior citizens, also known as Colonial Manor. It years ago, it was built back in 1913 as the Jefferson County Poor House. It's right across the street, two stories out. Nothing here is high or two stories that I'm gonna mention. It's one or two. Another property is the old Wheaton Church that is right there on a block from there. And there is cemetery. It's the one of the four oldest cemeteries.

It goes around that whole Lutheran church. And it is it it started its congregation in 1833. That building is still saints. All of those buildings are still there. Also located within the same block is the Presbyterian Lutheran Cemetery. It's at the corner of Shelby And Morrison Trail right next to the proposed apartments. This house, the oldest Lutheran Lutheran congregation in Kentucky. Sorry. Let's go back down to the cemetery. It started in 1799.

All the cemeteries on the graves on one side of this church is to 1833 that have died there. Okay. I'm the one one. Sorry about that. But there are about six historical buildings or landmarks within two blocks, and they are how in the world is a four taller than eight foot, so a four foot building going to fit right in the middle? It's literally around, and the traffic goes away. It doesn't work that way. I live two blocks from there. It does work.

Founder and principal of the academy friend, who's been in Georgetown area as a business for forty one years. Search children, a lot of different abilities, kids who have no difficulties, kids that's a very mainstream type of school. We're unique in that area. We're trying to study something that I'm

interested in. I wanna make sure

that it can include the concept of our impact that we have with 300 families in the morning and then every afternoon, I drop off and pick it up, which extends out to I can afford it. Woodward Lane often and get a nice. We can certainly cause some difficulty getting from one place to another place. And anybody gets stuck in that traffic just gets you late. So it's a pretty busy situation.

And I want safety. I have a lot of, you know, drivers who get their license and are excited and want them to careful too. So that's something I'd like to, you know, that's being taken care of very well. The store businesses on the at like our district, it's it. I don't know is kind of when you drive through those big arches and wonder why are they there. I don't know that much of the store in Jentown as far as what needs to visit and things to go and interacted to. As she mentioned, there's many things there. But we wanna make it look nice. So we confirm there's so many new neighbors that can rotate through the years. It would be a difficult thing for me to just feel as safe as we do right now.

Mean, if that's not anyone else's business, that's my business. And what's gonna happen with that? I'm not here to explore or was like, there's nothing there that you said is frustrating. I'm disappointed with the limited time to adjust to the change and to add a determined consequences by studying information to reach truthful conclusions and not just emotional last time. Her community because of this difficulty back and forth, they can handle it much different way.

Should have been handled in a different way. I know it's stated by at least forming owners of this project, but that won't be good neighbors. But I will be left being the good neighbor after they build it, came from it, and sell it to the highest bidder. And so we'll be there, and I'll I'll be the good neighbor. And I don't know who the neighbor will be. What company will find it, how they would do it. Just as I mentioned, Golden Creek. The situation there didn't take long for that to change the view of what they wanted it to be as well. When I first came into the city, it would the city of JTN. Bottom line, it's not my property.

It's a zone for this. Studies have been done, and those in charge of making the final decision have seemingly prequested from what I understand. The truth is we do not know the actual outcome of the advantages or the disadvantages. Wish more open discussion would have been made and not mistaken for thought and reaction. Now I've got a business in Jefferson down for over forty years.

A different level of respect would have been appropriate. It would go out to my attention. I would think I appreciate the fact that I was visited day before yesterday by someone directly involved in the office to start us getting this going and doing it. I would love to talk a lot. But earlier so I could talk to my parents, students 10 students decided not to come to a school right across from a farming complex that's going on. And so, well, a $155,000 in the market. There'll be probably that many parents who'll probably find the site just not to to drop in. Thank you.

Good afternoon. My name is Randy Lawson. I live at 10714 Oldskiller Road. It is a Jefferson town. Some of the addresses that you got pulled, they might have interest, but

they don't live there. I'm not

I'm sorry. What are saying? 00, please. 4299. Thanks.

Built a discercas for some of these folks, developers, lawyers, whoever they are coming here and school you all all this very policy that you apply. It's your policy. It's your policy. You should know those codes, but you listen for almost twenty minutes to someone who's challenging what those codes are and what they should say. And again, I'll beat that together.

One of the things one of the things that they we can get through, which they they talked about, the usability and walkability, and we talked about young professionals. I guess one of the questions that I that was posed is what happens if the young professionals don't come? Is that $2,500 a month? So if it's

done, you

gotta go over the ranch. You gotta change. But then then we're into a different situation. Two years now, three years, right now, four years now, that property sells. Okay.

Where does it go? So times. You know? And everybody's if I start staying home today, six a 161 times two, that's a lot more than 69 passes. That's it.

So just some little things that might need to take into consideration when you look at this plant. I think the other thing that

that you might that you

might consider, and they taking a look at sharing some of this information being upfront a long time ago, you gotta you might have received a little more public curiosity It's good instead of public discouragement and public grace that you're proceeding now.

Most of

the folks that you hear you've worked here in. You three and a half minutes. Thank you for your time.

I'm Paula Evans. I live at 9506 Streetburg Road 40299. Thank you for all paying me. I'm I'm the data lady. Okay? So I'm I'm gonna give you some numbers. And I'm giving you these numbers because I work in the area. And I lived in Jefferson Town. And we've lived here for thirty seven years. And I'm 62, and I find myself not wanting to take out of ways.

So I've learned of all the macros. What I can tell you is is that I've tracked at least nine times how long it's taken me to go 3.1 miles So that's. All the way down to. On the twentieth, and this is between four and 04:30PM. Twenty three minutes. On the twenty second, twenty five minutes. On the twenty fourth, twenty eight minutes. 3.1 miles. Then going to the office. May 11, twenty three minutes.

May 13, twenty two minutes. May 15, twenty three minutes. As you can see, it's taking you about that long just to travel 3.1, and that's coming down towards the trail. I know I heard something about what nationwide data is in terms of traffic. I really read it here more about things like what's in other cities, like the German village in Ohio, which is outside of Columbus, which I'm considered more like, in Tennessee.

Like, Indiana, that's what I really like to use as a data or the basis for what the metrics should be. I will tell you that it will be very, very difficult for people to come out of Bluebird Lane in the afternoon and turn left unless somebody's gonna stop and let them let them know. I know there's been some posters to talk about expanding Larson Trail, but as far as I know and what I have seen, it is still a two lane road, and they showed me pictures of it. It's one lane going away or one lane going another. There's not even a lane in the middle to go to the as turning on.

So that's the part of the problem I think. Now why do I go this way? Because as I said, the person we're laying so bad right now. You you get off at two at sixty four, and you go from sixty four all the way down to Marchtown Road. I don't have

to go quite that far,

and you're talking about twenty eight, twenty nine thirty minutes already as it is. And I only bring this up because I know that this is here. I'll talk to you about later on. It has to do a shopping center that's going off first complaint and. So that's all I'm gonna share with you. And I'll I'll keep I'll keep the data coming for it

if you need it. Thank you.

I'll call the next three, but I'll probably get the standard. Alyssa

and.

I'm here once again to speak in opposition of Blueberry Blueberry Luxury and Loss Departments. I'm gonna start by saying this is now the third time residents have had to rearrange our lives, leave work, leave families, and come sit in these meetings just to beg our local government to protect our community. My four year old daughter is out of school today for in service and has just been in that time with her over here with you fine folks.

So I'm not gonna stop showing up not for

one meeting because the decisions affecting our homes, our history, and

my daughter's future can will simply move on without us if we don't show up.

This should concern everyone. The development has consistently been presented as progress, but what many of us see is reckless overdevelopment being pushed into an area that already lacks the infrastructure to support it.

And the roads are

already dangerous. Drainage and concerns already exist. Emergency access is already a concern. We went over that today. Yet we still continue to hear claims that infrastructure issues have been addressed despite multiple statements and representations that do not appear to match reality. Some public statements have been made regarding works with public J Town public works that aren't true. And it has left many of us residents unable to identify the truth.

This erodes public trust. Residents should not have

to become investigators and archivists to determine what's true and what's not about a development almost paying force into our neighborhood. And speaking of archives, residents have now covered historical zoning and planning records that date prior to 1979 related to the Jefferson County Thorough Farms Cemetery, which is on the Bloomberg property. From what we have been able to understand, those people were the disabled, the abandoned, some children who are buried in unmarked graves there. These are human beings. And the idea that luxury apartments could be potentially built on or near land connected to unmarked burial grounds should not reach every single one of us.

History matters, dignity matters, and respect matters. Jefferson

County is not supposed to

be given a place that every open land is handed to developers while residents are told to accept worsening traffic, overcrowding infrastructure strains, and the loss of history. At some point, leadership has to decide whether it represents developers or people who actually live here. I'm asking you today just to put a stop to this project. We require full transparency, require legitimate historical and archaeological review of that land. And listen to the residents who continue showing up meeting after meeting, not to halt, to preserve what is ours that we work hard for. And as taxpayers don't want to endure the burden of powering more fire, more police that will completely overburden safety as it is.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

You.

Melissa Kowalewski. 10624 Waterston Trail 40299 is my business property. This is directly across from these luxury lofts luxury lofts. I'm inquiring, a lot of concerns about just the the traffic number one. Already from eight to ten in the morning, it is backed up.

I mean, it is a standstill in front of my business. Then again, from about four to well after 6PM, total standstill traffic. We run on appointments, appointment based business. It's very important that our customers can get to their appointment on time that's coming from all over. We don't just serve j 10 residents. We serve people from Dallas Station to Prospect. One could say I could get more customers by this. One could say I could lose customers because people are like, hey, we love you guys, but we can't we can't get there. We're not gonna sit in this traffic anymore. I've myself had not gone to start businesses because of traffic on.

So that's one thing. The crime, I'm worried about the type of tenants that are gonna be allowed to come in here. I have asked on the with the Facebook site that they had talked about before. Can you assure the community that these are not gonna just be terms of section a apartments? And are you saying that they're at fair market value? But, I mean, I think you have to fill out some section a people. I don't know. I just have questions about this. I don't know how that works. The road construction timeline, when is that gonna start?

Because this is gonna happen. The Washington Terminal start before the apartments go in. Is it gonna be during the apartments are being built? Is this, like, years after the apartments are being built? Is this gonna include any bluebird lighting? Because I feel like that needs to be widened also. We have a lot of elderly people too that's come to our establishment, and that is an issue with them trying to get out of our of our parking lot. The cemetery, I'm worried about that. You can just go on Google Maps, and it says poor farm Jefferson County Poor Farm Cemetery right there smacked down in the middle of this property. So was like, do that to be addressed?

The underneath the MSD, they said that that was gonna be addressed. I haven't been talked to about any of this. We have all all the carbon iron pipes that run underneath Larson Trail in front of my business. They're already getting clogged up. We already have issues with that. And I went I did go on to the KYTC KIPTA site, and I saw a lot of, like, new pipes being put in. I'm like, do I have to shut down my business? When is this gonna happen? Nobody is coming to me to ask me what my concerns are. So that is I'm going ahead.

I did speak at

the May 6, so hopefully that is on record and that I've said some other things on that. So hopefully that will be addressed as well. Thank you. Thank you. Brady Thomas.

Brady Thomas. 10112 Grand Avenue, Georgetown, Kentucky. And the last the code. 40299.

Thank you.

Ma'am, love James Hanna. Look at this passion. Opposed. Opposed.

Opposed.

I love love both. History too. Lived in J Town sixty five years, right in the heart of J Town. Put in a forty five year old development plan, and I could be wrong, but I don't think there's one four story building in the entire city of Jefferson Town. Maybe that's for a reason. So I'm here in opposition to the luxury loft the word luxury loft, development. But

I wanna

want to qualify that. I'm not

completely opposed to it. I mean, I want J Town. I patronize these business owners who've spoken. I wouldn't live anywhere else for development, development. I just think this this project introduces a level of density that is not compatible with the surrounding area.

A lot of the emphasis in development work of the, development code. These are actually works from the development code. It exists to protect neighborhood stability, ensure compatibility, and prevent overconcentration of development. And this proposal places a 161 units, three four story buildings, and 252 parking spaces on about half acres. That's a significant intensification.

It raises real concerns about traffic congestion, parking overflow, overall scale of development compared to nearby residential areas. You know, none of these pictures show in our floor is immediately adjacent to this development. Second traffic and infrastructure impacts are not being adequately addressed. The project sits at the intersection of Marston Trail and Bluebird Lane. The area that already experiences congestion, as you heard, the total circulation is adequate, but we haven't been shown how.

What specific improvements we made to ensure safe access, reduce congestion, prevents rental rent access around the neighborhoods. This project is being justified as provide awesome variety, but it's clearly positioned as luxury housing. There are no commitments to affordability of workforce housing. So the community is being asked to accept the impacts of the high density development without receiving clear public benefit and return. So I'm closing a few questions to consider.

I really wanna know

what infill development is and why this project does not meet the definition of infill development and its stronger compatibility requirements. Two, what did the traffic study say about development plans at Fern Creek? Given the price issues there, what does that say about our process? I'm sure it was, an objective standards that were applied not necessarily, but, I don't wanna sit in my car in front of me. So I I I love your vision. I just don't wanna envision. So in conclusion,

I'm not anti apartment.

I'm buying apartments there. Great for economic development. I just think it conflicts, and the density is out of scale, spread of the swell area, and it leads serious traffic and infrastructure questions. Respectfully ask you to reconsider approval. Thank you. Thank you. That's all I have

to speak. In the gallery, do we

have anyone? No. It's indicated that it was Steve.

Okay. Thank you. With that, commissioners, any questions about this vote in opposition? Okay. Could you have nonmensible republic?

Thank you, mister chairman. Members of the commission. I'm gonna try to address a few things that are specific, and then I'll just make a quick closing statement. Commissioner, you had some concerns about fire safety. We were looking while both of the speakers in support and opposition were speaking.

The plan doesn't have a fire that's on it. Jefferson Town is the authority of a jurisdiction over the site, and we were unable to locate an email from them. We have one in Anchorage, Middletown fire for some reason. But we did include, the standard fire department notes on the property. We've looked at the location of fire hydrants and think that they're within the correct proximity to the extent that we need to add any will.

We also looked at the plan to see if there was an opportunity for another emergency access on Uber. We do believe that there is an opportunity to do that. It would cost us a couple of parking places, but we have enough for it to work. But we would ask that that decision would be made by the authority of the institution at the time that they complete their construction. So we've looked we believe that we have an opportunity if they ask for additional access to provide that. We just wanna let them make that call. Okay? In addition to that, I did double check with our client. The buildings are gonna be straight. It should provide some comfort.

When it comes to traffic relative to the school, those roads were counted. That traffic was on the road. Accounts were done. So that's already been kind of baked into the traffic study. And when it comes to, you know, traffic studies in general, you know, we're not talking about projecting cars anymore.

We're counting cars. By end, it's counting the cars that are on rate. The nationwide data, of course, is how many trips are gonna come out of this property over a given period of time. And then you look at the worst case scenario, which is the peak hour. Then you apply the growth factor to that, and then you determine with all of those safety factors included, what

is

actually what would the impact of growth. And what Diane's study supports is that there's one movement at the entrance that has a minor delay of less than six seconds. And if the improvements of native parts and trail that have been planned and for which this property is already donated right of way, that six seconds will go. So we think the actual traffic impact is minor or negligible. Somebody mentioned cemetery.

There's no indication in the title to this property that indicates that there's a cemetery located on-site or in any survey that's been done on the property. In addition, this this developer is geotechnical and this is looking for cars features that is included in soil war rooms. Nothing has been found on property. Though a lot of these kind of unmarked cemeteries or other kind of non church affiliated cemeteries show up on surveys or show up in histories of communities, but there's not an indication on the site itself of the cemetery's existence. Our client has no interest in disturbing any grave of anybody at any time.

And while they are going through the construction process, if any of that occurs, there are state regulations in place about how do you treat a cemetery if it's found. Buffers that require that cemetery if it is found. And those will all be adhered to. So I want everybody to kind of understand that. When it comes to the section eight, I don't think that's relevant to a land use discussion.

I will say that the total metro has had for a long time an ordinance that prohibits discrimination against tenants based solely their participation in the session program. The state, again, on the state enacted a statute that purports to allow landlords to engage in that kind of discrimination. I can say with the type of building, the amenities that are included, it is unlikely, that people who are participating in the House of Choice Voucher program would be able to rent here, but and and there's beyond that. Again, I'm just talking about this well. It's the land use discussion.

Press it. Last, and it was supported by your staff report, has supported by the evidence that you personally think it's your concern. Evidence is for today. The proposal applies to the development code. It therefore applies to the conference of plan. But we give all the evidence that you need to issue the affirmative recommendation to the city of Georgetown on those Sure seems like, but to be a Jackson Davis.

I don't know. It's really.

I looked at the track and said the track is that probably probably this time. This would

not be a very good job at natural. We never need

require a grant to submit it. So who that goes? They go to the city of Jefferson Avenue. They have a city engineer?

It is going to we've submitted it to the city of Jefferson Town. Obviously, it's a happy as well. We've not gotten any comments back yet from Jefferson Town. I assume that the comments would be for.

I did not

see any any race.

And

and and it's your

process. So

and then and then the final meeting, what is the schedule?

That seems to be an important question.

That is an important question, and it is somewhat up in the air. Of course, our traffic study did not include those improvements. So the delay that's indicated in the traffic study does not contemplate those improvements. I know for at least six or seven years that design has been out there because, I don't know, in 2021 when the previous versions developed proposed, the city of Jefferson Town brought that to

the attention of the government at the time.

Our understanding is that there is a budget for the plan, waiting for the improvements. There is money ready for the roadway improvements. There are some way of way acquisitions along with our trail yet to be completed. We are not leading that process, of course. And so I I think it's a matter of acquiring that right away, and then I would expect it

to be correct. Yes.

Derek.

We reached out and had conversations with a KIPTA representative, and the total cost of the project equals the dollars programmed within their tip of 25 to 28. So that's the information that we have available to us.

I I understand what I understand. Yep. And I think we obviously, we are going to we have comply with what what the the ASJ is is gonna tell us about additional access that they need. And as as you were asked, Derek was looking, we looked at proximity of hybrids, proximity of access. People will be able to come up with Samaritan to get very close to that building.

We've never actually tried to wait next to it. They can come up with the back access as well. Don't think from a proximity standpoint, they may have to serve that particular building. If if the entrance is blocked, they probably have to serve up in Samaritan. But Derek also looked at the parking lot.

And in the area, a little bit closer to Blue Bird, there's another access point across Blue Bird that goes into the I think it was a library property that we could line up another access. But as I said, that that's a comment that kind of came up today. We wanna make sure that if the fire department wants it, we can do it. We just wanna make sure that they want it. I understand. I appreciate it. Mhmm. Yep.

Thank

you very much.

That's correct.

There were 15 different boards done on this property. No evidence of cemetery. I have to look at the the study in more detail. I don't know if they've had I shared that study with the city of Jaytown as well. We've had fusible, know, the depth of the rock in this area.

And I think it's worth mentioning that not that long ago, this property was part of the nursing home plan. So this hadn't been a standalone piece of ground for for an extended period of time. So it was contiguous with the nursing home parcels. So that was constructed without issue.

So I don't know

if there's gonna be a large difference between that and and this being that they were all part of that same person.

Well, I don't know that I can answer. If this happens then, what would happen? I can tell you that if a cemetery is located, there are two ways to address it. One is to preserve the cemetery, preserve a buffer around the cemetery. You all may remember the burning story of Flat Rock and Shelbyville.

There was a cemetery that's part of that site. It has a 30 foot buffer around the fencing set off area of the site. It allowed for development to remove that, but that access has to be maintained to the cemetery and a buffer. There are statutes, the cemeteries that usually comes up in in the private projects or often times following. That requires that was a lot of the other work that has to be done.

Yeah. Yeah. It's very expensive. In order to facilitate that, I don't know what would happen depending on the work you find out. But those are kind of two options. It's a search.

Okay. Coordinate. I think And I add this

one thing. So we could this comes up every now and then for the demos, and I'll say, we've heard from

the senate here. We think it's very here, but they're gonna work fine. The state statute, the Central United States that if in the course of construction evidence of people made, your grades are found and cease immediately, and then the contact statement for a preservation office. And then there's procedures there,

aren't the all

of which required. Then what's all that does to then make it make decisions on what can we do with this on the

product side. So there are both both processes that are in state law that says,

you know, you're you're moving dirt, and you find you remain and stop right there and immediately figure out what the extent of what you found is.

You, pastor. Commissioners, there's no one outside of the street, and there are no other questions. Anyways, what we're typical of the public health Once again, our responsibility is to the city of Jaytown to, quote a waiver Jaytown land development code 10.2 point four point a, which is as it relates to landscape buffer area.

For comment.

Thank you much for that comment.

I mean, it's down. That everybody who came out here to speak in

that tell us as a as a condition that that's a piece. This process. So

You

know what? Yeah. I have a couple of concerns here. The infrastructure with the healthy team and then with the the ground. Then the person's coming down and then, of course, with grave graveyard. But with the applicant meeting on record,

But that's one of those things that, you know, this land is is a pump pretty forward. As it was said earlier, I'm just speaking of Shentown. I got from Spanish speaking to the college president. But

Cheek? Yes. Mims? Yes. Bond?

Yes.

Stuber? Yes. Leonard?

Yes.

Benitez?

Yes.

Steph? Yes. Lohan?

Yes.

Fisher? Yes. Mohan?

Yes.

Benitez?

Yes.

Stuber? Yes. Mims?

Yes.

Cheek? Yes. Bond? Yes. Planner?

Yes.

Steph? Fisher? Sistron?

Yes. Thank you.

Next we'll take the next two cases.

Because he told me.

334.

Okay.

Step? Yes. Leonard? Yes. Vaughn? Yes. Lohan? Yes. Benitez?

Yes.

Mims? Yes. Sistron? Yes. Yes.

Benitez? Yes. Mims? Yes. Bond? Yes. Leonard?

Yes.

Steph? Yes. Cistron?

Yes. We have three more cases on that. We'll put have five minute recess, and they will come back.

So I have

will copy the meeting back to order. Next case is 2610002. It's a change in the government from our setting residential. We are commercial residential

Yes. Good afternoon, everyone. Mark Pinto, office of planning staff, 444 South 5th Street, Louisville, Kentucky 40202. This is 2672For11441146SouthSecondStreet. The request here is a change in zoning on both properties from r seven multifamily residential to c r commercial residential.

There's also a waiver from ten two four to o b require 10 foot landscape buffer areas on both side property lines. There is no proposed construction with a detailed district development plan with binding homes. The site is within the district. It's about 0.2 acres combined against two lots. One of the properties has an existing one story non residential building that appeared.

It was likely constructed between 1900 and 1930, Clearly, for non residential purposes, but it's been vacant for many, many years. And the proposed reason to CR, commercial residential, is to allow the potential reuse of that building to one of those commercial residential, uses or, like, an art gallery, a state of the site plan. The applicant is here to elaborate on that if you have any questions. And again, no new construction is proposed with this detailed plan. All MSD and transportation comments have been addressed.

There were not many very extensive because, again, there's no exterior site construction proposed at this time. Here is a copy of the site plan. As you can see, the existing building is that dark gray, the outline in black on the right portion of that southern site. And the rest of the site is outlined in the dark black line. And as you can see, there's no proposed construction.

Here is a zoning map of the overall area. This is in the southern, most portion of the South Broadway neighborhood plan. And the neighborhood plan, as stated in the staff report, kind of recognizes the variety of land uses in this area. It is directly west of the, which is on Boulevard, and it is East of the 9th Street divide. So there is a mix of industrial, office, commercial, and residential single, multifamily, and then heating area.

Next slide. And also easy one to the south as that begins. Here is the overall, just aerial of the subject site. Again, one of the lots is vacant, and the other one has an existing little one story building on it. And here are just some photos of the subject property will begin from South 7th Street directly in.

You can see that building to the right and the vacant lot to the left. And here it's looking down South 7th Street. Oak Street is right behind us. And to the immediate left is a multifamily building, oddly enough, with some CEM, commercial manufacturing, and actually R seven as well. No explanation for that.

And on the right side, more sort of core commercial, small scale commercial development. And then right next to it is a property zoned R seven as well, but clearly not an R seven type of billing or development. It's vacant, but appears to use the previous load for some purposes. And if you keep going, you can see some of the industrial development down South 7th Street. And here is a waiver exhibit and bringing as well as a buffer. They are provided but, again, there's no construction with this one. On one side of the property, half of that building would have to come down to make that buffer happen, which

will go against some

of the guidelines of building preservation and the comprehensive plan and the neighborhood plan. So staff does find the proposal is compatible or compliant with the land use and development policies of the comprehensive plan. The proposal, again, would have been some lower intensity, neighborhood serving commercial uses and the same multifamily residential and single family residential uses that are currently permits an area with a mix of zoning and land uses in history. The requested landscape waivers or waiver is adequately justified for approval, and the detailed plan, although not much system construction, meets the development company operating plan except for that landscape waiver that has been requested. So, therefore, your prior actions today are to recommend to local metro council to approve or deny the change in zoning from R seven to CR commercial to approve or deny the waiver and to approve or deny the detailed district development plan with.

Are there any questions for staff? Again, the property owner is here behind me, Bruce, to answer any questions if you have any for Bruce.

Well, it is not

the property owner hasn't proposed that, but they could consolidate at any time. Sometimes the issue is that consolidating is very easy to do. But in these smaller traditional neighborhood style lots, putting that line back can sometimes be difficult if there is a minimum lot size requirement that could make them out of plan challenging, but that could in the future.

Yeah. CR is.

Correct. CR is our lowest intensity commercial zoning district that's intended for reuse older traditional neighborhood style buildings, and it does not allow some of those more neighbor seeing controversial uses such as store, uses. It doesn't allow those types of uses. It allows for lower and it's the neighbor in certain commercial, like restaurants, company shows, no bars, no tattoo parlors.

No? Alright. With that, I'll update you.

Thank you, Mark. Thank you all.

Yes. Alright. Give me your full name address and zip code. Bruce, 7719 Floral Tarns, 40208.

Alright. Thank you.

I bought this property some years ago. We're not a residential property with the I own several properties, post prime business, BC Plumbing Company, which is a half block. But so where is proper?

Then, of course, I'm