Budget Committee - Regular Meeting

Thursday, August 20, 2026

The Budget Committee discussed the Joshua Community Connectors' contract and performance, which provides gun violence prevention services including family relocation. The committee also approved several ordinances for budget transfers, capital project reallocations, and accepted $13.47 million in federal funding for various projects.

About this meeting

Government Body
Budget Committee
Meeting Type
Budget Committee
Location
Louisville, KY
Meeting Date
August 20, 2026

Transcript

162 sections

0:04 – 2:29Speaker 15

Good afternoon. I'm Kevin Kramer. It is Thursday, August 20th. It's about 4.35. We're a few minutes late to getting started. Sorry. I'm chair of the budget committee. I'm joined by my vice chair, Councilman Winkler. Also in chambers are Councilwoman Parrish-Wright, Councilman Herndon, Councilman Piagentini, Councilwoman Parker, Councilwoman Chappell, and Councilwoman Hawkins. I'm joined online, or at least I'm told that I'll be joined online by Councilman Reno Weber. The screens are not showing, so I can't tell for sure um and uh jenny mulvey woolridge has an excused absence she's coming to grips with being becoming an empty nester so um okay um so uh madam clerk if you could please read into the record this meeting is being held pursuant to krs 61.826 and council rule 5a read in full There we go, thank you. So I'm gonna take the items in order on the agenda and the first item on the agenda is a special discussion. Some may remember that during the budget discussions, Joshua Community Connectors was in a contract with Metro Louisville and when the department head where the contract was housed was asked some questions, the department head wasn't as comfortable answering the questions as we would like for them to have been. As it happens, the mayor had recently moved the account from one department to another department. The contract itself was the same contract. The work being done was the same work. The difference was the department through which it was going. And so that created some question among some of our colleagues and some folks had asked if once the budget was passed and we were a little bit into it, if Joshua Community Connectors would be willing to come in and share the work that they're doing through this contract, and then also if we could have the mayor's office come and give us some sense of where we are in the process today. I think that captures the discussion. Councilman, is that a fairly accurate capture of? Okay, so I think that captures where we are. And so with that, we'll go ahead and start with a special item. So I will turn it over then to Mr. Tatum from the Office of Violence Prevention to kick it off. So if you'll introduce yourself and then go ahead and get us started.

2:38Speaker 11

Oh, there we go, sorry. I'm James Tatum, I'm the Director of the Office of Violence Prevention. Great, thank you, and you're joined by?

2:45Speaker 9

Kimberly Moore, CEO of Joshua Community Connectors.

2:48Speaker 15

Great, do y'all wanna just jump in with a brief introduction, or do you wanna move right into questions?

2:55 – 3:51Speaker 9

So I sent you all a report, and it shows the $100,000 that Metro government gave us, which is 23% of our budget. And we housed 12 families, relocated three, and we have three individuals that are in college. We have a case manager with a master's degree that carries a caseload of 25 people. And so our budget is $460,000, and your $100,000 of it is 23%. And so we just wanted to be clear about what we do and how we do it. You know, some of our partners are sitting behind us, and we discuss relocations, and a lot of the relocations come to me through LMPD. And, you know, everybody whose house is shut up cannot be relocated, which makes people mad sometimes. And so sometimes we get relocations, and I call LMPD, and they tell me to fall back because it may be a dangerous situation. And so that's it for me.

3:53Speaker 15

Great. Thank you.

3:55 – 4:39Speaker 11

And to clarify some of the questions that we had from the budget hearing previously, so working with Ms. Moore, so OVP's predecessor, Ocean, did have a fiscal year 24 contract with Joshua Community Connectors to perform a lot of the same services. So using that previous contract and then also what JCC had done last year for group violence intervention, we did develop this year's grant contract. That is fully written. The last thing that we had done, which actually was just confirmed earlier this week by Ms. Moore, was developing their KPIs and their survey so we can track their progress as the year goes on. Now that those have been approved, we could probably execute that contract either tomorrow or next week.

4:40Speaker 15

Okay, great, thank you. Are there any questions from colleagues? Councilwoman Hawkins.

4:46Speaker 7

Thank you. Thanks for being here today. So GVI had your contract from last year, right?

4:55 – 7:02Speaker 7

Is that correct? Okay. Did we ever come up with what that contract looked like? Because I remember when I asked Mr. Tatum what that contract looked like or what the contract would look like for this year when you was in the budget, he said he didn't know. So are we going off? You said you didn't know. So for last year, When I advocated for the funding in the budget, I had specific things that I wanted to see, which was relocation, right? And it's not many council members that even have constituents or families that even really need to be relocated, right? Some of my colleagues, their areas more or less deal with suicides and overdoses and things like that. They don't really have those type of needs in their areas. Unfortunately, I'm one of the ones that do. So how are you tracking outside of getting calls from myself or my colleague, I'm gonna use for an example, Councilwoman Shanklin, she's not able to be here today. She contacted me and said she tried to contact you about relocation of a family and you told her you was out of town. One of the things that I want to know, does the buck stop with you? If you're not in town, how is somebody supposed to get relocated? That was the first question that she wanted me to ask. But I want to know what the contract consists of so we can know as council members how we can utilize your services as needed, right? And not so much to... what you think the money should be spent for, but what we feel like that the community needs.

7:02 – 7:47Speaker 9

Well, I just want to correct you, because this money is not spent on what I think it should be spent on. First of all, I want to say that when it comes to Councilwoman Shanklin, by the time she had called me about relocating that person, they were already relocated and moved. And GVI is sitting behind me, and they could attest to that. And I don't think she was in the loop. when I was working with the family, but she never called my office. And so it doesn't stop with me. If I'm out of town, I have an executive assistant who will get up at 2 o'clock in the morning, as you saw when I was in Chicago and you needed somebody housed. And she got up at 2 o'clock in the morning and went to a hotel. So it doesn't stop with me. And so the guy that Shanklin is talking about is already relocated in a nice house, fully furnished in an undisclosed location. He's moved.

7:52 – 8:10Speaker 15

Thank you. Madam Clerk, please call as a record to reflect that we've been joined by Councilman Joseph and Councilman Reno Weber is, in fact, online, as is Councilwoman Purvis. Did I, were you finished? I'm sorry? Are we good? Do you have a follow-up? Okay. Okay.

8:12 – 8:44Speaker 7

So that contract. Mr. Tatum, I think this is for you. So the contract from last year, because when I asked what were the details of the contract that was placed with GVI last year, that contract, from what I was told by OVP, that GVI was a small entity. and that they didn't really know how to handle contracts like that. That's what I was told. So now it's placed under OVP, right?

8:46 – 9:21Speaker 11

This new contract. I meant to say that the capacity for fiscal and programmatic compliance, I mean we have two separate teams of people that actually follow those things. So that's what I meant by capacity. So yes, now it is over with us. So the quarterly fiscal reports, will be coming in, they'll be verified by our fiscal compliance team. Only then will the reimbursements be made, and then the programmatic success will be reviewed by our programmatic team, including the KPIs and the surveys that we have sent out. So then in the required quarterly reporting, you can see not only the fiscal expenses, but then also the programmatic success that they're having as well.

9:22Speaker 7

Great, so that's for the new contract that's coming up, right?

9:25Speaker 7

That's not for the old contract from last year with GVI?

9:29Speaker 11

I'm not sure what tracking that they would have had.

9:33 – 10:49Speaker 9

I could speak to that. We tracked last year. And on the back page of what's on the screen is the number of families that we assisted. And so with the $50,000, I want to be clear that it was $50,000 left over in you all's budget after we paid the case manager and did therapy. We had 12 families where we kept them with their basic needs. We have three people in college. And we have three local relocations. And we're doing relocations locally with a document that people have to sign off on saying, if you remain in Jefferson County and we relocate you, that you will not hold any us or any of our partners liable for anything that happens if you reside in Jefferson County. And so that document is in the county attorney's office right now where they're looking over it to see anything that we need to change. So if someone plans, your house gets shot up in Newburgh and you plan to move to 44th and Broadway, you sign off on a document saying if we assist you in the move and you move to 44th and Broadway and something else tragic happens, we're not responsible for that. Everybody cannot up and leave Louisville and that's just a fact and that's what Councilwoman Hawkins and I talked about. Everybody can't leave Louisville. So we have to see what it looks like for people to stay here and be relocated within a city where their life is on the line.

10:51 – 11:03Speaker 7

So is that one month, six months? How do they become sustainable once you relocate them? If you're not getting them out of here and they need to move, Like, so how long is your services?

11:04 – 11:32Speaker 9

It just varies. I mean, we've tracked people six months. We got a family that moved to another state. The family of the people that were killed at the DMV, they haven't been back. And we've been tracking them for 20 months. And so I'm flying to see them in November to close out that case. It just varies. You know, if they stay here in the city locally and we relocate them, we have a case manager with the Office of Violence Prevention that will work with GBI families locally. So, and they'll be tracked.

11:33Speaker 7

So if you'd say in one year, how many families have you relocated? And what districts, if you know, if you can speak off the top of your head.

11:40 – 12:29Speaker 9

Oh, I can speak off the top of my head. So one person is located in your district. One person is located in Councilwoman Shanklin's district. And one person is out, I think, in Paula McCraney's district. That's locally. And so I think altogether we have, 11, we've relocated 11 or 12 families, but this year, physical year as of July 1, we've done three families already. Okay, so last year from the money, you did three. Last year from the money, we relocated like four different families, two out of state, And GVI ate a lot of the cost for the Chiller's family. So some families we relocate. We're not disclosing names. Okay. We relocate one person. It might be 3,000. We relocate somebody with six kids. It might be 18,000. We just recently did a relocation and spent $22,000 on one family.

12:30Speaker 7

So would you say that that would you need more money to relocate people? Is it not enough?

12:38 – 13:34Speaker 9

$50,000 probably could relocate five to six families, and so more money would mean that more families could be helped. Right, so you said that your employee ate up 50,000 of it, right? My employee ate up 27,000, therapy ate up 12,000, and office supplies and travel ate up 10,000. I have a report, do you want a copy of it? I got it in front of me. Okay. So how many did you relocate with what was left? Left with the $50,000? With the $100,000. We didn't have $100,000. After we pay a case manager and a therapist and office supplies, we had $51,000 left. Okay, so basically, majority of those funds went towards... Staffing, is that what you're saying? $27,000 went toward staffing, $12,000 went toward therapy, $5,000 went toward office supplies, and $5,000 went toward travel. Okay, thank you, I'll get back to you.

13:34Speaker 15

Thank you. Councilman Parker.

13:37 – 13:51Speaker 5

Yes, thank you. You had 21 clients and 23 families. Were the 21 clients within the 23 families? Yes. Okay, and how do you get your referrals?

13:52 – 14:12Speaker 9

You know, partnering agencies, citizens, you know, council people, you know, sometimes, you know, a council person called us. And so when you call us, regardless to whose district you live in, if you're eligible for services, want to give it to you. But when they leave telling me where they live and who their council person is, that doesn't mean that we can help them.

14:12Speaker 5

Yes. LMPD, OVP.

14:14 – 14:49Speaker 9

What is the criteria for you helping them? Impacted by gun violence. Survivors of gun violence, a referral from a partnering agency, and youth exposed to community violence and families impacted by gun violence. So it varies. And so when it comes to the relocations, everybody that wants to be relocated cannot be relocated. Sometimes some of these situations are such a hotbed that LMPD tells me to fall all the way back and I can't be part of anything, whether it's a relocation or conversation, because it puts my life in danger. And so I don't think sometimes people understand the danger that goes along with this work.

14:50Speaker 17

Okay, thank you.

14:51Speaker 9

You're welcome.

14:53Speaker 14

Councilman Herndon. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just a question about the case manager. Is that a degreed position?

15:00Speaker 9

She has a master's.

15:03Speaker 14

For $27,000 a year?

15:04Speaker 9

She's a part-time case manager.

15:06Speaker 14

Oh, I said full-time.

15:07Speaker 9

I shouldn't have. She's part-time.

15:09Speaker 14

Okay, all right. Just checking. That seemed a little low.

15:17Speaker 15

Councilman Parish, right.

15:19 – 16:28Speaker 6

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I first want to say I know that this is dangerous work, and I really commend the work that you all are doing, everyone that is sitting with you as well. It does take a connection, a multifaceted approach. I do appreciate this report. I think it's well done. And as somebody who has to navigate as a nonprofit and raise money to take care of things, you're getting a lot done with your budget. Um, I, uh, my question is around, have you done, and I know it's a case by case basis and thank you for giving those examples. If it's a family of six that takes a different amount, if they can stay local, if they have to travel and I appreciate the followup and the KPIs you're building, have you, um, have you been asked around like the cost per family in a way that you could I love the whole numbers. Have you been able to break that down per family? And what can we do? How much more money do you need to be able to handle more of this?

16:28 – 17:24Speaker 9

You know, I think that, you know, you all sit at home and you see the gun violence that's going on. And so every time somebody gets shot or get murdered, we get a phone call and we can't move everybody. So you look at $50,000, $55,000 left after we do therapy. So you got to think about what that looks like. So it varies family to family. Like I said, some families we spent $22,000, some we spent $3,000. The thing about it, like... Councilwoman Hawkins says, how do they stay sustainable? Once we move them, we don't just take them to another state and drop them off. If they still need help with rent and stuff, we help two, three, sometimes we help one family up to a year. It varies. We wanna make sure that they're okay. The good thing is when we relocate, we try to relocate to a state that has a Goodwill close by that does similar work. where we could do a soft handoff and we've been blessed to be able to move to some states that know what we do and they're willing to jump in and try to do some of the work with us.

17:26 – 17:43Speaker 11

I also wanted to add some of the KPIs that we have included as well is the number of unique individuals and the total number of safety checks conducted. So with the quarterly reporting, you can see actually how many of those check-ins after a family or an individual has been moved, how many times they've been checked in afterwards.

17:47Speaker 15

Thank you. Councilman Winkler.

17:49 – 18:38Speaker 12

Thank you. Thanks for being here. I just have two questions. The first is, and you alluded to this a little bit with Councilman Parish-Wright's question, but I don't think it was exactly at least what I was looking for, which is, So I understand theoretically anybody who is affected by gun violence could be a candidate for relocation, but probably not everybody who is impacted by gun violence needs to be relocated. Do you have any sense for what is the actual, and I don't know why we have this echo, but what is the actual demand, or what, Are there 10 that you got asked that you weren't able to serve? Are there 30 that you weren't, that you weren't, like give any sense of scale.

18:38 – 19:12Speaker 9

Last year we probably were asked about 20 people that we were not able to serve. And a lot of times when it comes to the relocation, we don't relocate because the people impacted by gun violence have played a part in the gun violence themselves. And so you've done something that brought violence to your family and then all of a sudden after you get in repercussions for that, you want us to up and, relocate you and spend a lot of money and so I'll say this, I take a lot of heat for asking people what they do with their money because you can't use your money for what you want and use our money for what you need. We need to know what you're bringing to the table and what kind of skin do you have in the game.

19:13 – 19:41Speaker 12

Perfect. And I think the 20 is exactly what I was looking for. And so the second question I have is when you do one of these out of state relocations, who handles like employment services? Is that the handoff then to the local goodwill where you're trying to then connect them with an employer so that Because eventually your money runs out, right? Absolutely. And so how do these people get into the workforce in whatever city they move to? Is that the case manager that's managing that?

19:41 – 19:59Speaker 9

They usually go to Goodwill, and I still follow up with Goodwill, and they usually get another case manager with the Goodwill that's out of state. That Goodwill sometimes have funding where they can help with rent. You know how Goodwill operates state to state. So out of 152 Goodwills, they only have like 15 across the country that will even entertain something like this.

19:59Speaker 15

Thank you. Councilman Purvis.

20:07 – 20:30Speaker 8

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Ms. Moore, thank you for being here. I have a comment, and then I want to ask something. You said there are some cases that you cannot get involved in, and I think the police may share with you it's too dangerous, it's too risky. For those cases, are you able to provide any services such as counseling

20:32 – 21:06Speaker 9

You know, somebody is in a violent case where I cannot get involved in, they could be referred to therapy, whether it's through me, OVP, VOA. You know, it's a lot of partner agencies involved. You know, and so I just think that I don't think council is aware, you know, when it comes to this work, it's really dangerous. You know, my life's been threatened a few times. LMPD had to get involved. The detective sitting behind me had to go talk to my son. And it was dangerous. And so when they tell me to fall back, regardless to whose district somebody lives in, I'm not going to be involved after LMPD says no.

21:07 – 21:51Speaker 8

Right, right. So I did want to point out, I don't know, you may have forgotten because you're so busy with what you do. I did call on you one Sunday evening, probably, I would say between four and six, after there was a shooting in my district. And fortunately, I got you. You were able to help right away. And to this day, every time I talk to the mother of that victim, she is very, very appreciative of the help that you were able to provide for them and get their loved one relocated to a safe area. So for that, I don't know if I would share with you forever. I told you thank you for the work that you did and for the work that you do. I appreciate it. Thank you.

21:51Speaker 9

And I just want to tell you that he's doing well and he just had twin daughters and he's working two jobs and he's out of the streets.

21:57Speaker 8

Thank you, thank you. It would not have happened without you. Thank you. You're welcome.

22:03 – 22:14Speaker 14

Councilman Herndon. Yes, thank you, sir. One quick question, and you may have said this before, and I was writing notes and distracted myself. You mentioned working with Goodwill. Do they provide any funding or staffing, direct staffing support to your efforts?

22:14Speaker 9

If we don't have the funding and we need Goodwill to fund something, Rena Sharpe will let me swipe her credit card at 4 o'clock in the morning if I need to.

22:22Speaker 15

Okay. Councilman Hawkins.

22:28Speaker 7

Are you funded by Goodwill as well? Are you contracted with them?

22:32Speaker 9

I am contracted with them as a part-time basis for my own job. I have two jobs.

22:42 – 23:25Speaker 11

it um i'm sorry could i add one point as well just uh um for uh councilwoman purpose's question when we're talking about mental health services so um actually another portion of our funding uh that was uh sent over to us in this year's budget um is for mary hurst's uh not only their mental health hotline which is usable by anybody in the city who's undergone any kind of trauma but that also helps fund several positions where we actually have people set up in neighborhoods and anyone who has experienced trauma can go to that person for mental health services there and then also referrals to longer term treatment. So there are resources outside of this grant contract that are available to people who have undergone trauma.

23:27 – 24:05Speaker 15

Thank you. Seeing no one else in the queue, this will conclude our special discussion. Thank you both for being here. We really appreciate it. Thank you for having us. Very enlightening and appreciate the information. Thank you again. Moving right along then, again, keeping in order. Number two is Ordinance 233-26. It is an ordinance amending Ordinance Number 111, Series 2026, and Ordinance 110, Series 2026, relating to the fiscal year 2026-2027 operating budget, respectively, by transferring $70,000 from the District Nine Capital Infrastructure Fund to District Nine Neighborhood Development Fund.

24:06Speaker 6

Motion. Second.

24:07Speaker 15

It is properly before us. If you'd please introduce yourself for the record.

24:10 – 24:33Speaker 4

Thank you, Chair. I am Regina Gard, the legislative assistant for Councilman Andrew Owen, District 9. As stated, technically two and three work in tandem, but I know we have to speak to the item at hand. We are requesting to move 70,000 total from CIF to NDF to take care of NDFs that will cover the rest of the year. And then I'll get to three when we get to that point. Great. I respect it.

24:34Speaker 15

Any questions, colleagues?

24:37Speaker 15

Seeing none, this is an ordinance calling for a roll call vote. Madam Clerk, please open the voting.

24:44Speaker 18

Councilman Reno-Weber.

24:46Speaker 2

Aye. Could you guys see my video now or no?

24:50Speaker 2

Okay, I can't see yours.

24:52Speaker 15

Unfortunately. Hey, easy killer.

24:57Speaker 18

Chair Kramer, you have nine yes votes.

24:59 – 25:17Speaker 15

The item is unanimous. We'll go to the consent calendar. Item number three is ordinance 23426. It is an ordinance amending ordinance number 110 series 2026 relating to the fiscal year 2026-2027 operating budget by transferring 50,000 from the Neighbor Development Funds District 9 to Louisville Metro Council General Operations District 9.

25:19Speaker 15

It's properly before us.

25:21 – 25:32Speaker 4

Thank you, Chair. Regina Gar, Legislative Assistant, Councilman Andrew Owen, District 9. We are moving $50,000 of that $70,000 to our call center for operational budget.

25:33Speaker 15

Any questions, colleagues? Seeing none, this is an ordinance calling for a roll call vote. Madam Clerk, please open the voting.

25:41Speaker 18

Committee Member Reno-Weber.

25:58Speaker 18

Chair Creamery, you have nine yes votes.

25:59 – 26:20Speaker 15

Thank you. Thank you. With unanimous vote, it goes to consent calendar. Item number four is ordinance 213.26. It is an ordinance amending ordinance number 110, series 2026, relating to fiscal year 2026-2027 operating budget by transferring $35,000 from the Neighborhood Development Fund of District 3 to the Louisville Metro Council General Operations District 3.

26:21Speaker 6

Motion. Second.

26:23Speaker 15

That's properly before us. Councilman Parrish, right.

26:27 – 26:39Speaker 6

Thank you. This is the follow-up. We had some funding move from CIF to NDF, and this has given us the opportunity to move it so that we can have operations throughout the rest of the year.

26:41Speaker 15

Questions? Seeing none, this is an ordinance calling for a roll call vote. Madam Clerk, please open the voting.

26:47Speaker 18

Committee Member Reno-Weber.

26:57Speaker 18

Chair Kramer, you have nine yes votes.

26:59 – 27:30Speaker 15

Thank you, and again, with unanimous consent, it goes to the consent calendar. Item number five is Ordinance 2226, it isn't 2226, I'm sorry. It is an ordinance amending Ordinance Number 163, Series 2022, and Ordinance Number 111, Series 2026, relating the fiscal year 2026-2027 capital budget by transferring $136,336.49 from the Unallocated Bipartisan Infrastructure Law Grants Project to emergency services for the USDA Stream Bank Stabilization Project. Motion.

27:31Speaker 15

Thank you, properly before us. And then Christine DeBritz is here to speak to this. If you would just introduce yourself, please.

27:38 – 28:19Speaker 3

Of course, Christina Britz, Executive Director of Accounting and Business Operations in OMB. This, we had, there was an emergency project related to flooding, where some houses were going to fall into, I think, a Herd's Creek. It was a $2.6 million project. We received $2.6 million in grants, almost two million from the federal government, 500 in state. This is the remaining amount that Metro is covering. It's BIL eligible, so we're pulling it from the unallocated fund, which is currently in public works. This was managed by EMA.

28:21Speaker 15

Thank you. Questions? Councilman Winkler.

28:23 – 28:49Speaker 12

Yeah, I'll just say, I mean, having driven by here, I mean, it's shocking to see, you know, essentially, I mean, these houses are now hanging on a cliff because the entire back of their properties washed away with the flooding. I think it was two years ago now. I might be right. Maybe it was a year ago in Councilman Reed's district. And really, hats off to EMA. I'm sure, I don't know what other engineering, whether it's the Corps of Engineers or whoever else was involved, but

28:49 – 29:12Speaker 3

you know hats off to all these organizations that um you know help save these people's houses and yeah and i'll certainly pass that along this was i'm here more from the administrative standpoint but glad we got it done thank you anyone else questions or comments seeing none again this is an ordinance calling for a roll call vote madam clark please open the voting

29:18Speaker 18

Committee member Reno Weber.

29:24Speaker 18

Chair Cramer, you have nine yes votes.

29:26 – 30:17Speaker 15

Thank you, again, with unanimous consent. That goes to the consent calendar. The next item on the agenda is Ordinance 22626. It is an ordinance amending Ordinance Number 126, Series 2007, relating to the fiscal year 2007-2008 capital budget. Ordinance 90, Series 2009, relating to the fiscal year 2009-2010 capital budget. Ordinance Number 119, Series 2012, relating to the fiscal year 2012-2013 capital budget. Ordinance number 88, series 2021, relating to the fiscal year 2021-2022 capital budget. Ordinance number 111, series 2026, relating to the fiscal year 2026-2027 capital budget by transferring and consolidating funds between projects within various loan funds to facilitate more efficient project administration. Motion.

30:18Speaker 15

Great, thank you. So here goes. Christina, are you going to speak to this again?

30:25Speaker 15

Yeah, I'm going to turn it over to you.

30:28 – 30:58Speaker 3

Oh, okay. So this is really an administrative change in how we track and report our METCO product lines. For years, we have worked with economic development to determine where we can consolidate but also maintain tracking for each business line, this ordinance gives us the authority to handle those administrative adjustments.

30:59 – 31:54Speaker 15

Thank you. So as I understand this, we got a grant from the federal government a bunch of years ago to offer as loans for small business. We did that. Those loans got repaid. The federal money was gone because we dispersed it. But it came back to us, and then we loaned it again, and it came back to us, and we loaned it again. And so these monies are out there and we know where they are, but they're out there. What this does is it makes it easier for us when it comes back in to go back out from that one account. So it's actually not one, it's actually four, but it'll come into four pots and it'll go back out of those four pots. It'd be a lot easier for us to keep track of where that money is. And it's a great program because there are a lot of things that get done and it gets done as a loan instead of a grant. And so we're really grateful that it works as well as it does. We're just trying to make it easier for the people who try to keep track. That's correct. Is that a fair assessment?

31:54Speaker 3

And I think there is a total of, I don't know, 15 different product lines, but we're trying to get them consolidated just for tracking and managing the budget.

32:03Speaker 15

Great, thanks. And there is an amendment, so I'm going to throw it to Councilman Winkler.

32:07 – 32:21Speaker 12

Yeah, so two things. One, unless the chair objects, I'd love to be added as a co-sponsor for. Absolutely. Okay. And then I think there is an amendment in the system. Beth, are you gonna speak to it or? Okay, so if you wanna speak to it and then I'll make the amendment.

32:21 – 34:21Speaker 10

Yes. Beth Stenberg, you have the amendment before you. What we noticed, we've been working on this for over a year now. Yes, and thank you. With OMB and yes. And so what, trying to figure out how to do it appropriately. It doesn't fit in an ordinance very well. And so in talking with the county attorney's office and Erin and I today, we decided that what you have in front of you will do what they need to do because we couldn't move budgets like we normally do. We're moving balances. And so the whereases, I'll read those in if you need. Whereas Louisville Metro government has existed both before and after merger, has been awarded federal and agency funds for various revolving loan programs. and whereas the original appropriations from those awards have been dispersed and repayments made, and whereas additional subsequent loans have been made with those repayments consistent with the intent of the original awards, and repayments and subsequent loans will continue to be made on an ongoing basis, and whereas the balances and the various accounts in which these loans are made could change on a daily basis, and whereas Metro government would like to consolidate all the loan programs from the loan programs listed in sections two through four below into four categories for ease of administration of the loans and whereas the office of management and budget has the authority to establish the following accounts and to transfer the current loan balances as of june 30 2026 from these various loan programs to the accounts identified in section five And I believe that is, no, and then we added section one. The Office of Management and Budget has the authority to establish the following accounts and to transfer the current loan balances as of June 30 for these various loan programs to the accounts identified in section five. and the rest is from the original except in Section 5 when we added Ordinance Number 095 Series 2025 because these accounts will be set up with the FY26 budget, not the FY27.

34:21Speaker 12

So I'll make that as a motion. Second.

34:26Speaker 15

Questions from colleagues? Okay.

34:29Speaker 12

Any other comments?

34:35 – 34:51Speaker 15

Or we can encourage you to stop by the office. Okay, it is an ordinance requiring a voice. I'm sorry, we need an amendment first, so can we get a voice vote on the amendment? Aye. Okay, the amendment carries. We now have the ordinance before us. The ordinance calls for a roll call vote. Madam Clerk, please open the voting.

34:53Speaker 18

Committee Member Reno-Weber.

34:58Speaker 18

Chair Cramer, you have nine yes votes.

35:00 – 35:37Speaker 15

Thank you, this one was amended and therefore we'll go to old business. The next item on the agenda is item number seven. This is ordinance 231.26. It is an ordinance amending ordinance number 84 series 2022 relating the fiscal year 2022-2023 capital budget. Ordinance number 92 series 2025 relating to the fiscal year 2025-2026 capital budget. and ordinance number 111 series 2026 relating to fiscal year 2026, 2027 capital budget by transferring $83,555.70 from two existing projects and establishing two new district 15 projects.

35:38Speaker 15

The property before us, Councilman Chappell, this is from your district.

35:42 – 36:59Speaker 1

Yeah, okay. Yeah, so we had a sidewalk project that was funded on Blue Grass Avenue that came in wonderfully under budget and the sidewalk is absolutely beautiful and is a great connector. And then we also had the Iroquois Amphitheater, I think roof installation. I'm so sorry, I'm not finding my notes very well. And that came in under budget and so we're taking Both of those amounts and funding two new projects, one of which is going to be a sidewalk connection that we're really excited about. That's gonna be a part of our next Bob program in the St. Joseph neighborhood. And this is connecting a sidewalk to a sidewalk. So we're really excited for that connection to be made next to a space that we endearingly called Barbie Island, but not that kind of Barbie. And then we also have another project that we're looking to fund various projects through our building our blocks or Bob initiative, and then having a pot of money to fund those improvements as they come in. So happy to answer any questions, but looking forward to your support.

37:01Speaker 15

Colleagues, questions?

37:02Speaker 18

Sidewalks, sidewalks, sidewalks.

37:04Speaker 15

Seeing none, this is an ordinance calling for a roll call vote. Madam Clerk, if you'll please up with the voting.

37:09Speaker 18

Committee member Reno-Weber.

37:15Speaker 18

Chair Cramer, you have nine yes votes.

37:16 – 37:31Speaker 15

Great, with unanimous consent, that will go to the consent calendar. Item number eight is ordinance 232.26. It is an ordinance amending ordinance number 111, series 2026, relating to the fiscal year 2026-2027 capital budget by changing the names of three capital project titles.

37:33Speaker 15

It's properly before us. This ordinance is a cleanup of the recently approved FY27 budget. Ms. Tinberg, if you don't mind explaining the cleanup language here.

37:44Speaker 10

I will be glad to.

37:44Speaker 15

What it does, actually.

37:46 – 39:03Speaker 10

There are three different changes, all of which are just title changes. The intent of the money has not changed at all. When we approved project number 30 in the capital budget, it read District 12, 14, 15, parkland acquisition in Southwest. It should have. and always intended to include all of the Republican Southwest districts. So the project name now is District 12, 13, 14, 24, 25 Parkland Acquisition in Southwest. The other is project number 51. It came over in the mayor's proposed budget as District 26 Sidewalk Repair, but the description was describing sidewalk construction and repairs, and so we're changing that to District 26 Sidewalk Improvement Projects. so the construction can be done. And the third one is project 53, lease lane sidewalk repair. District one, we're changing that to district one lease lane sidewalk project. In the FY27 capital budget, the mayor recommended some funding be given to what district one had already committed, their fee in lieu of sidewalk account, and a huge CIF account to be able to get this project done. So it's just title changes. No change to the descriptions.

39:04 – 39:23Speaker 15

Great, thank you. Questions from colleagues? Madam Clerk, with the Vice Chair's consent, I'd like to add him as a sponsor. Thank you. This calls for a roll call vote. All those in favor? I'm sorry, Madam Clerk, please open the voting. Aye. Yeah, then I'm getting confused.

39:23Speaker 1

There we go.

39:24Speaker 18

I got you as a yes, Councilman Reno-Weber, thank you. Chair Cramer, you have nine yes votes.

39:32 – 40:21Speaker 15

Thank you, and with unanimous consent, that goes to the consent calendar. The last item on the agenda is a resolution. This is Resolution 11026. It is a resolution authorizing the mayor to accept up to $13,470,000 of funding through the HR 6938, the Commerce, Justice, Science, Energy, and Water Development and Interior and Environment Appropriations Act, HR 7148. the Consolidated Appropriations Act 2026, and H.R. 4366, the Consolidated Appropriations Act 2024, authorizing and directing Louisville Metro Government to execute any documents which are deemed necessary by H.R. 6938, H.R. 7148, H.R. 4366, to carry out various projects and authorizing the mayor to act as the authorized correspondent for these projects.

40:23Speaker 15

And Madam Clerk, if you don't mind, again, with the consent of the Vice Chair, would you please add him as a sponsor? Thank you. Okay, I believe Seth is here to speak to this. I'm sorry, if you would please introduce yourself for the record.

40:33 – 41:22Speaker 13

Sure, hi everybody, Seth Drake with the Mayor's Office and the Government Affairs Team. I know it's a really long title, but essentially this is just the resolution authorizing us to accept our bipartisan earmarks from Senator McConnell and Congressman McGarvey. There's a range of projects that are included in the resolution, ranging from behavioral health to traditional transportation projects. The title is rather long because as you probably know, the federal government approved various different packages of appropriations in 2026 and then one of these also for 2024 because of some of the prolonged issues with HUD. They had some changes in how they're processing community project funding and then we had to make some changes according to the executive orders to make it compliant as well. But just would appreciate your support, thanks.

41:24Speaker 15

Questions? Councilman Winkler.

41:28Speaker 12

Just one question. Is this the entirety of the grant or is this a tranche of multiple grants?

41:37 – 41:56Speaker 13

This is the entirety of the appropriation from that cycle, whether or not these projects need additional funding. As you'll see, I mean, the Belvedere is a part of it. Senator McConnell allocated $7 million for it. Congressman McGarvey, $250,000. And then, as you know, there's other funding sources. But for these particular pieces of legislation, it's all of it.

41:56Speaker 12

Yeah, but in terms of the money coming in from the federal, it's $13 million and change. Okay, thank you.

42:03Speaker 15

Anyone else? Seeing no one else, this is a resolution.

42:08Speaker 10

We need to talk about technical change.

42:09Speaker 15

Okay, Ms. Stenberg.

42:11 – 42:25Speaker 10

Yes, in one of the whereas paragraphs, it lists the departments that each of these funds are going to. I gave you a list of how much each of them are. They forgot facilities and fleets, so we're gonna add that as a technical amendment.

42:27Speaker 15

Okay, thank you. So from the clerk's perspective, does that need to be an amendment that we vote on or can we just, add that as a technical. Typically, we would add that as a technical.

42:37Speaker 17

This is Sonya Howard, the clerk, and if there was something totally left out, I think we should ask the county attorney, but I think that that would actually have to be a real amendment.

42:50Speaker 16

That's cleaner. If it's totally left out of the, yes.

42:53Speaker 15

All right, so we have a motion and a second. It's properly before us. All those in favor of the amendment, signify by saying aye.

42:59 – 43:23Speaker 15

Any opposed? Seeing none. Any conversation about the resolution itself? Seeing none, this is a resolution calling for a voice vote. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any opposed, no. Chair says it's an aye. So it gets unanimous vote, but because it was amended, it will go to old business. There you go. Thank you. That's the last item on the agenda, so I will see you guys next week. Thank you. We are adjourned.

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