Municipal Council - Regular Meeting

How's your arm doing?

Better.

It's not hurting anymore. That's good. Five months later. It has healed.

It has healed. It's still got a weird bump in it. Yeah. But sometimes that happens. It takes a bit for that. It makes my arm hurt just thinking about it. I still, I pulled up for a minute. I was like, oh my god. Okay. You everyone ready? Let's do it. We will call to order the May 19th Logan Municipal Council today. And we will start with a Pledge of Allegiance. And I was talking about other things and did not ask anyone to do the Pledge of Allegiance. Herm, would you be willing to come lead us in the pledge? Can I put you on the spot? Let's do it. Let's do it.

Come up and lead us in the pledge. I think it's very appropriate for Herm to lead us in the pledge. Please.

pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

I thought you were on my left, and then I realized you were on my right. Thank you, Herb. And welcome back. We have a spare seat if you're getting itchy down there. We will now move to our acceptance of amendments and the approval of the agenda or any discussion about either from the council.

I will make a motion to accept the amendments and approve the amendments.

I have a second. We have a motion and a second. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. We have our minutes accepted and our agenda approved. Our regular meeting schedule for 2026 is the first and third Tuesdays of every month. Our next meeting will be June 2nd at 5.30 p.m. This part of our agenda is time for the public if they have any questions, comments or concerns for the council or the mayor to come to the microphone. We do ask that you state your name and your city of residence. Keep your comments to three minutes or less and hopefully keep things within the purview and domain of the council or the mayor. But with that, I will open the microphone to the public for anyone who has comments or questions.

Eh, I'm Josh Walter. I'm Logan. I love getting up here. It's actually become a, it's almost like therapy for me. Anyway, I am, I'm really worried about this data center going on over, over the hill. I'm worried about what and how it's going to affect Cache Valley. It's going to affect Cache Valley. Not just environmentally, but I'm worried about the developers here. I mean, you know, O'Leary's talked about 20,000 people coming in over five years, you know, to work on it. Man, you bet the developers that have been exploiting Logan are just licking their lips for high density. You know that they're just wanting to get in on that. More rentals. So I'm really worried about that impact. Supposed to be 2,000 people. I'm sure that Boxelder County will take care of a lot of the permanent staff there. But we are like the big brother of Boxelder. We're like the rowdy little brother. But yeah, it's going to affect us. And I think that maybe if there's any way that Cass County can help with trying to keep this data center from happening. I think that we need to. They're also proposing another one in Pocatello. Now, if anybody knows how the weather systems work here, if that gets approved, we're going to end up with a lot of that pollution. We're going to end up with pollution with this one too, even though it's on the other side of Box Elder, but it's the way the wind blows. You guys have ever checked the storms out here? If there's any way that we can help the citizens of Box Elder, because they are our neighbors, I think that we need to do that. And we need to make sure that the developers here don't exploit the city with this project. Millionaires and billionaires are becoming a real hindrance on our systems. I left you a homework assignment to check out. Was it the Powell documents? Did you guys check this out? the little homework assignment there. But yeah, it's what's happening now. Corporate America is taking over and dissolving our democracy. So we need to fight back with it. Peace out. Peace out. Thanks, Josh.

Gail Hansen, Logan. I know it works. Amen to Josh. In case you have beach reading that you don't know what to fill up with, this book is called Work. So it's kind of nice, you know.

Does it feel like work to read it?

A little bit.

I'm sorry.

Keep going, Gail. Yeah. They had to renew it for me. So, but... On the data center, I wasn't going to talk about it at all, but I am concerned that it's a bubble. The whole data center stuff is a bubble. And that we're going to put a lot of resources into something that ends up standing empty. So there's that. And then a little philosophy because you know me. I would like to commend you because As you consider the decisions before you, I think you do a really good job of asking the question, who will this benefit? I think you do a really good job of asking the question, what is the price? I think you need to tune up a little bit on the, what is the cost? Price is this, cost is that. I don't know, interpretive dance. I grew up in Kanab when there were great big poplars and cottonwoods shading every back street because there were irrigation ditches that fed them. And I left and they piped the irrigation ditches and the trees died. And my oasis turned into a desert. We have lots of things coming at us. There's the data center. There's the piping, the Little Logan River consideration. I think the cost needs to be considered. Who does it cost and what is the cost? Thank you.

Thank you, Gail.

Herm Olsen, Logan City. After serving for 12 years, I wasn't sure I'd ever miss attending and participating in the city council, but coming back after an absence and being away for a while, I really miss this interaction and seeing all of the support people that help you guys do a good job. And so I don't have any axe to grind no gripes to share but i do want to say i do understand and appreciate the work and the effort and the labor that you guys undertake as part of this commission late phone calls encounters in the grocery store occasional smears, you know, I remember. But you do well. And I want to thank you as a citizen for your service. Well done.

Thanks, sir. Thanks, sir.

Good evening. I'm Linda Johnson and I live in Logan. And it took me more than 15 minutes to get here tonight within Logan. And I'm sure you all feel that way. What I wanted to kind of ask today is I think you guys do a wonderful job of meeting with the departments and delegating and touching base and then reporting back to the council as a whole about, you know, planning commission or library board, things like that. Wonderful job. And I'm wondering if there's something similar as I read like Mark's mayor reports and things like that on the greater Cache County community. Do the city councils meet with each other quarterly, biannually, anything and touch base on, oh, I know you guys struggled with like the riparian setbacks and stuff. Like, have you talked to River Heights or Providence? Like what are the other towns doing? How do you guys determine where Cache County as a whole is doing. I love the 2045 plan, things like that, and I'm sure other cities have that, but how much touchback is there with each of the different councils in the greater Cache County area?

Great question. Before we answer, I want to make sure that you use all your time if you have other questions, and then we can answer afterwards. Do you have other questions you would like us to answer with your three minutes before we answer? Because last time, I feel like we took your time talking.

I feel like that is OK. I haven't seen anything of that where there's someone who reports back, oh, I talked with Providence, and here's where they stand on this land you know, use joint thing that you had to vote on. I just, I haven't heard in the council meetings any sort of feedback from other places in the valley of, oh, I saw that Hyde Park is doing this.

Yeah, so there are official meetings where we meet together. So Mayor Anderson is on the rec center committee, and I believe you are as well.

No, not officially.

Not officially. And so we do have certain areas where we have committees that overlap. Jeannie's on the airport advisory board, which... And CMS. and CMPO, the Cache Valley Metropolitan Planning Organization. So there are boards that we sit on that cross. I'm on the Bragg Housing Board, so that meets with mayors and council members across the tri-county area. So we have boards that have members from other council members, and then we regularly meet with others. I met with Sandy Goodlander and Keegan Garrity from the Cache County Council last week. As well as Emily Schmidt on the North Logan City Council. And so we do meet and we all have those meetings and those boards that we crisscross and meet with. Some are official, some aren't. And then when issues come up, it's pretty common for us to talk on the two. And I meet with the mayor's association almost monthly.

So we're kind of meeting together. I mean, we don't talk a lot of policy, but we get together and we talk about issues that everybody has. and learn about different things. And we actually had two council members meet with the county council members from Logan this last week. So we're trying to build some of those relationships with them as well too. So it's just...

Fantastic to hear.

For us to share every little detail, it would take like the entire meeting to do. Oh, yeah. But it's ongoing. Yeah, it's ongoing. And it is... conscientious decisions that we've made to try and build better relationships with our county council people that represent logan but i'm meeting with the executive almost on a weekly basis so that we're trying to fix those relationships with the county that is wonderful to hear i guess

And in that, when you're just talking about boards and stuff, if you, I don't know, 30 seconds of, hey, I didn't meet these people and this was kind of a broad overview. Usually they're really, really short when you guys talk about those things. And it's great because it's short and sweet, but it also helps everybody know and gives a good sense of feedback to the community. They don't see those meetings official or otherwise. And so, yeah.

Great.

Thank you.

Yeah, we appreciate that. Thank you, Linda. Any other comments, questions? Okay, we will close our questions and comments for the Mayor and Council, and we'll move on to our Mayor and Staff reports for one item from Mayor Anderson.

Gary, do you have a minute to come up to the podium, please? Come on up. The Logan Downtown Alliance, which Gary is the Director of, has become the first, the first organization in Utah to earn both state and national Main Street accreditation. Utah Main Street and Main Street America announced the designation during National Historic Preservation Month, recognizing Logan's work in preservation-based economic development and downtown revitalization, which I have seen in multiple ways over the years. A quote from Governor Cox is, there's no better way to honor our past than ensuring our historic downtowns remain vibrant economic engines for our future. The Logan Downtown Alliance has been able to strengthen and advocate for downtown business, preserving a unique culture and celebrating community spaces. This accreditation is the highest designation for downtown revitalization through the Main Street program. And congratulations to the LDA, Logan Downtown Alliance, for achieving this accreditation. Do you want to take 30 seconds and talk about it, Gary? What does this mean for the Downtown Alliance? And really, you've kind of spearheaded this. What does it mean for you personally to get this kind of award? Yeah.

Well, this process began once Utah decided to be a Main Street program, have a coordinated program within the state. And we joined their effort, and that was in 2023. And so over the next few years, we went through the tiers of qualifying for different programs. affiliations and the accreditation is the highest level which we wanted to accomplish and that what that does for downtown does for is it offers opportunities from corporate giving and foundation giving to strengthen local business with the FACADES programs that they have available, corporate corporate philanthropy they have interest in downtown survivals and downtown revitalization because it basically makes economic sense to reinvest into downtown that business kind of fled in the 70s and so you see that resurgence back into downtown there's nothing the alliance has done to to impact that other than it's naturally happening with, for instance, the mall closing. So downtown was in a position to take advantage of this turn in society, the way people shop and interact with each other. So we just want to create a downtown that preserves the history, preserves our culture, and then makes a great business environment for businesses to strive and for the community to come together.

Awesome. thank you gary for what you're doing and congratulations again to the downtown alliance for being the first organization in utah to receive this state and national honor well thank you we love a partnership with logan city of course awesome thank you so much thanks for coming that's that's the extent of my reports for tonight thank you mayor anderson

We will move on to council business. And we will start first with our update on planning commission from Jeannie.

Sure. Planning commission, I always have to read it because I can never remember the addresses. There were two projects that were approved. One was called Elevate at 12th. which is 1137 West, 200 South, and 1136 West, 130 South. It is two three-story buildings in the commercial district, the main floor of which will be hotel spaces, and the upper two floors will be apartments. And the Public Works Campus Phase Two, which was the larger portion of the of the project passed with flying colors and is ready to shovel. It's shovel ready as they say.

They're not doing it with shovels. There's some bigger equipment out there than a shovel. A couple. Yeah.

And that was Planning Commission.

Thank you, Jeanne. We'll now move to council announcements. I do have one thing that I'm probably, well, that I'm going to bring up at the end here, but I'm gonna turn the time over to the council if they have any announcements or boards or anything that they've done in the last two weeks that they feel like they need to add extra. Detail, too, for Linda.

All I've done is just stuff with you.

I know.

Don't worry. I'll bring that up at the end. Okay.

I don't know how many meetings we've been in this last week or two. Not enough, apparently. It's been a considerable amount.

It's been a considerable number.

We had a great night at the police officer banquet.

You attended. Katie attended. And so did Jeannie. And so did Mark.

And so did Mark. Sorry. We had a lovely dinner. It was. It was really good. They thought you were coming and not me. They thought I was coming?

Yeah. I hope our police department felt appreciated that we could be there.

It's always a great event because you get to find out some of the events that have happened that they recognize and give awards for that you don't otherwise know about. And it makes you feel really confident in everything that they do. And it's so nice to see them all dressed up.

In their dress unis.

In their dress uniforms. And so it's a very nice event. So I'm glad you mentioned it, Melissa. Yes.

And I would also add the employee appreciation lunch.

That's always fun.

We all attended and served the staff of the city, their lunch, and got to chat and meet many. I would just say some, actually, since half were and chose the other line. But with, what, 430 employees? It's a big lunch that the city does out at Willow Park for all the employees. It was really nice to just show that appreciation for employees. Do we do it once a year? Once a year. So that was done last week as well.

I think I've got carpal tunnel syndrome from doing the tongs for like an hour straight. It's like my hand would break off plates.

They don't trust me to do the tongs and the meat yet.

I was supposed to report back about, I went to library board last night, and Jeannie, you had asked last week at the budget meeting about the library and their programs and what the attendance is. They still didn't tell me a number, but they said it is up 25% from previous year.

I was at a water district meeting retreat so I can't be there.

That's all right.

And that was a long meeting too. Yeah. I attended my first historic preservation meeting Don't giggle. I know what you're thinking. So I got there a few minutes late, and then I was informed that I'm not voting, which was great, because I'm happy to be there and share my two cents. And then I voted. But the only proposal that was put forth that was being reviewed was 180 North 176 North Main, which is just, it's on the east side of Main Street, just north of Bragg. buildings, yeah, businesses right there. One has some board on the windows and so historic preservation's role, which is actually challenging, I quickly am learning, is to really evaluate the proposal, the exterior, you know, of that project and to provide feedback and they're proposing a change of 3 door design to 5 door to optimize the basement and other aspects of that project. So that was the discussion at that.

I have two things. I went toward the landfill and the wastewater treatment facility. Are they cool? They are cool. Those guys work hard. Me too. I feel like it's the unseen side of the city, right? Nobody goes out to the transfer station very often, but I think we all appreciate that garbage and wastewater disappears from your house and is taken care of by our employees. It was good to go out and see that and go through all that for a bit. Our environmental team does an amazing job. I do. And I also actually went out and watched our forestry team clear lines for some tree line clearance. Is that the term they use? These guys are quick.

Yeah.

I had to ask them if they sharpen their chainsaws often because when I use my chainsaw in my yard, it's just like 10 minutes on a little branch and those guys are like, whoo-hoo-hoo.

I actually met with Tyler this morning and we discussed the... community gardens that we're working on at the compost facility and they should be ready next year. That's exciting. Yeah, so we're really excited about it. We might be able to do some planting this fall because we're thinking about doing some like more permanent fruit trees and small fruits out there as well as having the vegetable gardens. I think it'd be really cool. We've got some really good ideas. We've been working with USU as an extension service on that, and JD Gunnell has been an awesome resource. They've been really, really helpful. He was the one that suggested the more permanent trees and stuff. So that's coming along. Excited about that.

I'm excited for that one. And the other thing that Jeannie alluded to, I'm hoping we can have a little bit of conversation about, is there's a potential for a tax increase or a change to our property taxes that I've spent this week meeting with Mayor Anderson and Jeannie. I've talked to Katie on the phone, how many times now? And Melissa a few times. and Rich and probably everyone else. I spent a few hours with Chief Thompson. That was a great discussion. But we need, we're on a little bit of a tight timeline and we need to, we're not making a decision obviously tonight, but I need to know if we're putting that on the agenda in the future and I need to hear from the council members on what their thoughts are on changing the property tax amount for a truth in taxation this fall. Was that clear enough, Craig?

Yes, please. The chair is the one who sets the agenda, so Mike is just seeking some input. He'll make a decision if it's on the agenda or not, but he's just seeking input from the council. There's no vote, there's no... No head nod, no vote.

I just need to hear your input so that I don't make agenda items. that nobody else wants on the agenda, or I don't put things on that everybody else wants on the agenda. So I've asked Rich to just give us like a two minute synopsis of the last 12 hours of meetings that me and him have been in. And then I'm going to let Jeannie, he doesn't, but I've asked him to and he will. And then I'm going to ask Jeannie after that to kind of give an update of, we had a pretty long discussion with Rich. The other day, maybe Jeannie, you can update the other two of where we were on that discussion. And then I just need to hear everybody else's input. Can we do that?

Sure. It's very convenient for Ernesto to go to Trump. I know.

I did talk to Ernesto today, and he is aware of the discussion. I've been trying to keep him appraised of what's going on. No, I did talk with him briefly today, and he is aware of the discussion that started, and I will follow up with him after we talk tonight to kind of see his opinion as well, obviously, as the vice chair. I think he needs to... have some input on the agenda item. Absolutely. I'll shut up. Rich, give us a synopsis.

Very quickly, last Tuesday, Cache County passed Ordinance 2026-23. The intent of that ordinance is to increase the fire levy on all of the entities that are participants in the Cache County Fire District. Logan City has not. and then reduce the cash county general fund levy equivalent to the increase in the fire levy. For many years, Cache County has been charging or has been levying taxes on all Cache County residents, including Logan City residents, for their fire service. However, they provide very few services to Logan residents because we have our own exceptional professional fire department who provides those services to us, as well as to some surrounding communities. What that will do is reduce taxes on Logan residents by about $1.3 million. 1370 is the current estimate. Again, that happened last Tuesday as we were having our first budget workshop. Had we had more, now we've known about this for a while. A few weeks. Well, for a few months, we've been discussing, but we didn't know what was going to happen until it ultimately happened. Otherwise, it could have been something that was part of Mayor Anderson's proposed budget to council. However, that time has passed, so now the question to council is, do we want to do anything with this? $1.3 million is approximately the shortfall we have of operationally funding a Northwest station. which is on our capital plan and is included in the budget that you have before you. It is also a future need that we have. And when we can pull that trigger is all dependent upon the calls that are currently out there, the demand for service, as well as our ability to pay. So this is an opportunity where Cache County is reducing their taxes on Logan City residents We have an opportunity if we want to raise our levy. It is a tax increase, but our residents would be paying the same amount of money they were paying before. It's just where they're paying it to Cache County and not getting fire service for that. They would then be paying it if we decided to go through the process. They'd pay that amount to Logan City. And we would potentially be able to operationally fund, independent of any other contract or other way of funding that fire service in the northwest part of our town. This has always been something that's been on my radar. It's been on my radar for ten years. 15 years, actually probably longer than that, back with Chief Meeker 20 years ago. This has always been something we've known we were going to do at some point in the future. And now the question to council, is now the right time to do that? Or is it still time that we wait and try to accomplish providing services to our residents in some other way? Now, just so we're aware, without this levy, With this levy, we can operationally fund Station 73, and we can move toward building that station and staffing it with Logan City firefighters. Without it, we would be dependent on an interagency agreement. We do have one currently that is funding some of those types of services. However, that agreement has terminated and we will have to renegotiate that at some point in the future. This would allow us to be independent of that agreement, or we would have to reduce our investment in capital infrastructure. Basically, we'd have to shift from capital to operating in order to accomplish this, or the final option would be we'd have to live with longer response times to that northwest area, do the best we can. Until the inevitable day in the future when we have to address this station.

Just before you comment, I just want to be very clear that the discussion tonight is not necessarily whether you're in favor of raising taxes or whether you're not in favor or what percent or any of that discussion it really is is this something that we want to discuss in further depth at agenda on an agenda next week at the budget workshop. That's when it would have to be on the agenda, correct, is next Thursday. But it really should be during the budget. So you're welcome to ask any questions you want. And then I want to let Jamie give kind of an update. But I just want to make sure that we're keeping that conversation. I'm going to keep looking at Craig because if we're offline, I want my... City Attorney to slap me. I think you explained it very well.

Only additional information I think would be helpful for the public relative to this that you could just maybe share Rich briefly is currently our budget, the mayor's budget proposal, budget increase proposal is a 3% increase. And my understanding is the past three years, our increases have been mostly, not purely inflationary, but the percentage is relative to inflationary between three to 7% per year is what has been approved. And is that correct, roughly? And then last, what the, and this is the sort of, I just think it's an important detail that's difficult to understand. With 12% of the total property tax that residents pay goes to Logan City, and of that 12%, what this would represent as a 1.37 roughly per total increase, which is approximately an $83 per household roughly. The median household. Median household, what that would represent in a budget increase request.

So that $83 is currently being collected by Cache County. if we were to try to at 83 it would be approximately a 20 increase in the levy for logan city but it would be 11 of 20 which is more like three percent of the actually two percent of their overall property taxes i know it's so confusing but again we're 11 of their total bill And so we would be proposing, the option would be to increase that 11% of their bill by 20%, which is 2-ish percent.

But again, the county has passed the resolution that they intend to reduce theirs by that equal dollar amount. But they have not done it. But they have not done it, but they intend to.

They intend to. And I think they will because of the dynamics that are involved. Thank you. I just wanted to... Jeannie?

Do you want to give us a little bit of any information you want to add from our discussion?

I think that our decision tonight, it's not really a decision.

It's a discussion.

It's a decision to whether we want to put it on the agenda or not.

You guys are talking about it, and then I'll make a decision without you on what goes on the agenda.

So I think that Overall, the conversations have been broad, narrow, happy, sad. Because it is so complicated, I do believe that we should have an open discussion about it. And the reason that it comes to the council is because the mayor's budget has already been proposed. It cannot be changed. It's only a council decision that can change it. The mayor is supportive of whatever we choose, but it's important to know that's why it's sitting here instead of over there.

And it's all about timing.

And it's all about timing. And it is also all about all of the rules that the state imposes on cities and towns and counties with respect to property tax because there are deadlines that have to be met. There are certain public hearings that have to be met. There has to be a specified need for the increase. So I think that that conversation needs to happen.

So I want to hear from all of you of your thoughts on if this is something that we want to spend the rest of my week pursuing, like I did last week, or if this is something that...

I think no sleep is good for you. I'll try to be brief in the morning.

Jeannie talked to my wife today at my wife's work.

I did.

She went into my wife's tax account. Apparently my genie uses their firm. My wife asked genie, are you losing as much sleep as my husband over this?

And I said, no.

And I don't know what she said to that, but she probably said he tosses and turns.

No, she said you need to run.

I do need to go for a longer run. Yes. Katie.

I would recommend that it be placed on the agenda. I think... It's really because of the timing of this decrease and lowering of the tax levy from the county for fire services that Logan residents haven't really seen and because there are some needs, whether we want to address them now or in the future related to fire. I think it's worthy of having that public conversation and seeing where it goes and determining if now is the time for that consideration or not.

So this would not be a public hearing?

Not yet.

Correct.

Thank you for that clarification.

At what point does it become a public hearing? Is it we make the decision that we are going to increase and then it becomes a public hearing? No.

Well, we would make it, we would. Public hearings like in August, right? We would announce that we intend to raise taxes at a truth and taxation hearing on August 8th this year. August 11th. 11th this year. And there would be one there and then on the budget as well.

The budget and then the actual public hearing so people could speak to it at all times.

June 19th and August 11th would be the two public hearings for us.

So putting it on the agenda for next week would just be a further discussion. We could actually discuss it. Actually discuss it. Or right now we're just deciding if we're going to put it.

Well, not you, but we, I said, we, not even we, not even we, you, Craig is very clear over here. I'm not, I'm not trying to like, I'm trying to make sure that we're not making a decision that wasn't agenda.

No, I would recommend that we discuss it as a council. I think it's a heavy decision. It's a tough decision to make. Um, And so I think it would be very important for us to be able to discuss it in a public setting.

Yeah, I think the public setting part is really important.

Because it gives a little bit of that communication that we've talked about that we need to give to our public. This is a discussion that we need to talk about.

You were also recommending?

I did.

Okay, I just wanted to clarify. Question for Rich. Do we need to discuss?

I need some direction.

I know. I was going to say, I feel like staff before Thursday needs to know whether we're looking to pursue all, like a full 20% increase, a partial increase.

And again, we're just recommending... That's a decision.

It's not a decision.

It is, but so...

Staff needs some recommendation on where they're headed.

There's a process that we have to follow so the question to council is at that meeting which is the May 26th meeting.

Correct. Next Tuesday. Yes.

Would you like me to satisfy the state requirements by bringing forth kind of the maximum which would allow us to have that discussion And we wouldn't have to do anything more as far as noticing.

But you're going to notice a 20 and a half percent, give or take, tax increase?

Or just to get it all on the table?

I would prefer that we put it all on the table because we can always go down. You can always go down.

But we cannot go up. Here's another option for you. We can have a discussion at the 26th. I don't bring anything forward. But then we bring something forward at the meeting after that. which would be the June 2nd meeting, we're still okay.

Although that is the- Can I share what my expectation would be from Rich?

Sure, and then I'll maybe put it on the agenda.

Geez.

I would love to hear your recommendation.

What I would like to know is what the need would be fulfilled, whether that need is eminent or more long term.

whether the property tax increase would be used to save for something to be paid for in three to five years or whether it is something we plan on doing immediately.

And that's it.

Because if we don't really have a need for it, we don't really need to do it.

It's a fair ask. It's a fair ask. And I will work with Mike if he decides to put it on the agenda to bring that forward.

Okay. Perfect. Okay. Any other thoughts from the council before I... I'm sorry, what was that?

If he doesn't, everybody will be mad at him.

You might all be mad, but maybe the public would love it if I just didn't put it on the agenda next week. But that also means now that I made that joke, that if I put it on the agenda, they realize that it was me. It's all me. Okay, if there are not any further thoughts or questions. Okay, I will work with Rich and we will... discuss further with Rich and Craig, and I will include Ernesto in that discussion. And I'll probably include Chief Thompson in that discussion, and obviously Mary. Okay, we'll move on to our next thing, which is just to announce that we have a council budget workshop meeting next Tuesday. That is the agenda that we were just discussing. That is Tuesday, May 26th at 5.30 PM. Is it appropriate to, do you know which departments at this point in time? Yes. Yes. We got that, Rich.

It's like Light and Power, Police. Public Works. Public Works. Public Works.

Is it environmental too? Environmental.

Okay.

Yeah. As I say, you're going to like quiz me on that. Okay. And that might be an exciting one. Who knows? We have one more decision that we need to make today, our July meeting schedule. Historically, we have not held a council meeting on the first Tuesday of July. That would be July 2nd. 7th, not 2nd. I'm looking at June. That would be July 7th. What is the 24th?

We usually pick one.

It's the 21st and the 7th.

It's usually the 1st.

The three years I've been on, it's always been the first one that we've skipped. We can cancel it. We can move it to a different day, or we can run with it on the 7th. What is everyone... have appetite for.

I will not be here on the 21st. So I would say let's cancel the 21st. I will not be here on the 7th.

I got to pick favorites now? I could join by a Zoom if needed.

I won't be leaving because traveling with a six-year-old is super fun. So I'll be here for the entire month shooting off fireworks inside the legal zone. Jeannie, any thoughts?

It matters not.

It matters not to you. Would you like to hold both of them in June? July?

Well, it depends on if they have enough stuff.

That's always my big question, is do we know, Mayor Anderson or any of the staff members, if they have big things coming in July that we need to... ComDev doesn't? Public Works doesn't have anything big?

Do they know for July already?

yeah because it's going through planning commission they know on july 7th where they may or may not want to be okay we will i will move we do not are we having a motion on this one craig um you can do it not a motion oh okay sorry i didn't know it didn't say action i didn't say jeannie continue i will move that we cancel our july 7th 2026 meeting We have a motion, any further discussion?

How about a second? I'll second.

Well, I was asking if there's any further discussion before there was a second. Any other, any, is there a second? There is. Okay, all in favor, please say aye.

Aye.

We will not have a meeting until five seven. There you go. Jeannie.

You have to have a second before you can have discussions.

We can have discussions in between.

Can't we, Greg? I can't do it. But the power was such a... It's taken me a few months, but I'm starting to get used to it.

Fireworks.

Chief. Will you take us away on Resolution 26-14? You bet. Thank you. Give us a quick summary.

Yeah, yeah, quick summary. Hopefully Chief Lacroix did a pretty darn good job.

He did great.

Introducing this. Really I think the best summary is no change from the previous year. The eastern boundary runs along 1600 East as you can see here through North Logan and Logan. down through Canyon Road. No change to boundaries from our city or our contract cities. Probably the most notable, still no change along 1000 West and 600 West for those that live on that side of town. However, however, is a win for this. Our new fire marshal has agreed to reevaluate some of the areas that have developed. You know, just, I mean, the city has grown. You just have to keep in mind, you know, you have to have a 200 foot barrier. So, you know, into wild land or agriculture or undeveloped. So that, but we will take a look at that. I think Robert probably went through. It's cool today, but the forecasting is a little grim in terms of fire danger, dryness. I believe Wayne County announced, I think it was in the news yesterday, they've already moved to a level two fire restriction, which is no open flame, which I can't remember a time in Utah that I've been in fire service that it's been in May. That's super fast. We'll just ask people to be careful. please don't you know I think I think boundary wise I think we're in a good shape there he's one thing I did want to show you that I probably haven't shown you in the past which is good this will be posted on on our on our website this is the interactive fire restriction map so if people have a question we'll make sure this gets advertised but if you can zoom in on this map and pretty much enter for example I'm not sure who lives down in this part of town, but they could come down in here and they would click and see that there's no fireworks in their area. Or you can also search by a specific address within Logan or our district. So it's a nice little tool. That's compliments of our amazing GIS team. I think Lyle does a great job. So he's helped us with this. So this will be posted and available and we try to get that information out at the fireworks stands to ensure that you're in an area that's legal. So Really, I'm thinking that's the boundaries.

We're still planning on signing all the boundary points. What's that? We'll put signs up for all the boundary points. Correct.

Yeah, signs, I believe they usually get posted about a week prior to being able to legally shoot. Yeah, and those will be posted on both the east and the west boundaries in Logan.

Any further questions for Chief Thompson before I open up for public comment?

There's no public comment. I'm curious if it's an actual action.

Not a public hearing. I did not even realize, do you like my long palms? Geez, Jeannie, what would we do without you?

I move we approve Resolution 26-14. I'll second.

Any further discussion? Okay, all in favor of approving Resolution 26-14, please say aye.

Aye.

Aye. You're good, Chief. Next year. Next year's the year. We do have a public hearing, Resolution 26-15. Rich, if you want to give us a run through.

Sure. The first item relates to the Public Works Campus project, a very large project involving multiple buildings. We are requesting to appropriate $6 million of Class C reserves toward eligible costs associated with the Public Works Campus project. So along with the $54 million we've already appropriated, this will bring the total project to $60 million, which we are committed to maintaining. There are a couple other costs potentially. Opportunities, if we decide to take advantage of them related to rooftop solar, we bring those forward to you later if that's the case. Otherwise, we believe that this budget will get us, enable us to build the building that we're- Shovel ready. Shovel ready, we're ready to go. Huckaburks is committed to making it happen. Request appropriate 10,000 for the fire department for a fire grant for wildland employment equipment. Request appropriate $52,073 from the 9-1-1 reserves towards Spillman software costs associated with the current year. And a request to appropriate $14,392 for a police alcohol-free drug grant that they receive for a police equipment.

Thank you, Rich. Any questions for Rich before I open the public hearing?

I actually do have just one just confirmation really that my understanding with the six million for the public works project that the stage of that project is to the point where they feel really comfortable that this request is will get them where they need to relative to Building costs, subcontracting, contingency, really being at a place where they feel like this is what we need to get us shovel ready, essentially. Is that correct?

It is, but I'd like Sam to speak to it because he has the detail if you're okay with that.

Okay, sure. Can you give us a... Brief one, Sam?

Yeah, great question. Yes, what Rich said is accurate. Phase one is actually the contractor, Big B, is actively doing that right now. I checked in with them this week, and they said the prices are getting back, so contractors are looking good right now, right at our estimates. So, yeah, we feel confident moving forward with this. Great. Anything else? Thanks.

Okay, this is a public hearing. Anyone from the audience who wants to comment on any of these appropriations is welcome to come to the microphone, state your name, your city of residence, please take three minutes or less. And the mic is open. Seeing no one, I will close the public hearing and bring it back to the council for motion or discussion.

I move we approve resolution 26-15. I'll second.

Any further questions or concerns? All in favor please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Resolution 2615 passes. Go build your building, Sam. Okay, that closes our action items for the evening. We have two workshop items. And I'm going to excuse Melissa Daly at this point.

I promise I'll watch the video and see the workshop items.

They're both pretty simple to get through. But Melissa has a family engagement for one of her kids that she needs to get to. So we're going to let her slip out. And then we will move to resolution 2622. Rich? Give us a short one.

Very short one. Just one request. $30,000 of golf course reserves toward golf equipment repairs. As you recall, a couple of council meetings ago, we brought forward a resolution to appropriate funds because of a longer season, golf season, for operational reasons. This is for equipment repairs. We believe with this appropriation, the golf course budget is prepared to end the season under budget, we hope.

Excellent.

Okay.

Questions for Rich? We'll see you in two weeks, Rich. Thank you. And next week, too. Oh, yeah. Our last item for the evening is ordinance 2609. And Russ, Holly, you want to give us a... run down a long and complicated. That's what we want tonight.

No, we don't.

I sure do. We're ahead of schedule. Good evening, council. This is simply a text amendment to title five of the municipal code. This is the business license section and it proposes changes to the definitions. It adds categories for commercial level one, level two, It proposes to eliminate the bonding section, which, according to my understanding, hasn't been practiced for over 15 years. We just haven't been bonding for these types of businesses. Some of them are a little bit outdated.

I say you might want to bond for a wrestling.

When I open one, it's going to be a rowdy one. Or an auctioneer. We don't have very many auctioneers in the city. And then lastly, the changes to the food vendors aligns with state laws that recently changed and basically it includes different types of vendors, not just mobile food vendors. So you could have a vendor for other products and how they operate and where they can operate. So just some kind of updates in those sections to align the state laws. Any questions or comments?

Seemed pretty self-explanatory.

It was pretty simple.

Yeah.

Any further questions for Russ?

No.

I think it's really good that we let Melissa sneak out four minutes before the rest of us. Thank you, Russ. We will see you back in a couple weeks. Any other considerations from the council before we adjourn?

Not for me.

Well, it says 6.30, so we've got to fill three minutes. We're adjourned. We'll see you all next week.