Municipal Council - Regular Meeting

Kick it off here. 30 seconds. Okay. Okay. Got everyone. We got a really big room tonight.

My turn to make the person next to me jump. We will call to order the Logan Municipal Council for March 3rd. Can't believe we're March already. Um, and we will start with the pledge of allegiance today. And I will just lead us in that pledge and we'll dive into our agenda. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

I want to thank everyone who's come out tonight um and welcome you to council meeting today. We will uh move to the acceptance of the minutes and approval of the agenda for this evening. I move we accept the agenda and the minutes, please. I have a second. We have a motion and a second. All in favor, please say I. I. I.

Any opposed? The agenda is approved and then the minutes are accepted. And I was I forgot to mention this. Um we'll exclude excuse Councilman Councilwoman Melissa Dalline. She is uh off with the family thing this evening. So um we will we will hopefully see her in a couple weeks. Our 2026 regular meeting schedule is the 1st and third Tuesdays at 5:30 p.m. and our next meeting will be March 17th, 2026. Uh we'll now move to questions and comments for the mayor and the council. This is the time for anyone in the audience who has questions, concerns, comments, or thoughts if they would like to come up and share them. We do ask that you keep your comments to 3 minutes or less. State your name and your city of residence and hopefully keep your comments to something within the purview of the city council or the mayor. Uh, and with that, we will open up the microphone.

Josh is shaking his head at me. My dog ate my homework. All right. Okay. Well, seeing no one, we will close the questions and comments for the mayor and council and we will I was going to say move to mayor and staff reports, but there are no mayor and staff reports at this time. No. Okay. We're cruising right along this morning evening. I have no idea what time of day it is. It's been a long Tuesday. Be honest. It still feels like Monday. Um, we'll move to council business and we're going to move to a Logan youth Logan City Youth Council report. Uh, and I'm going to hand the time over to Ernesto to kind of give us an introduction and introduce some of our council members.

Sure. Um, I'm going to invite our youth council members to come up to podium over here. Um we back in in January we were able to attend the day at the capitol or local officials day and um we had a group of let's see was it 11 um I remember right Teresa she helped us register the students and um I think I mean we have a very busy group of students that that are part of our youth council so it's kind of unfortunately had to limit it to a number of them kind coming to participate and uh we have Madden Hyram and Mia who will be sharing a little bit about their experience on that event.

Yeah. Hi, I'm Madden. I'm a junior at Logan High. And first of all, I'd just like to thank the council so much for paying for us to go to local officials day cuz it was such a great experience. We got to talk to our representative and senator and representative Anderson was super generous and he donated the five levels of leadership by John C. Maxwell for every member of the Logan Youth City Council and we got to talk with members of other youth city councils and yeah it was just such a great experience.

Thank you. Hello, I'm Harin and I'm a sophomore right now. And some of the cool things I've got to do and prepare to become I one of the goals I want to become as a politician later on in life or something in that field. And so it's good to get the experience of especially doing an involvement community. We were able to go to the warming center and that was a super cool experience to just be able to see what's going going on over there. I've enjoyed being able to watch every single meeting since I became a council member. And you can ask Ernesto and Melissa. I ask questions sometimes about the workshop items and like how that everything works. And it's been a super guiding experience and helpful experience. And thank you guys again for the shirts and then for the opportunity that we had to go down to local officials day and be able to talk to some of the representatives that are currently representing us right now up the Congress level. It's also super cool for me as I do speech and debate and just looking at the different levels, especially on a congressional basis on the stuff that they're talking about and stuff that we're talking about within our own debates. One of the cases in my example is I do a public forum and talking about single family residencies being brought up by corporations and one of the only six states that is currently has legislation around that that's trying to be passed right now is Utah. And so it's kind of a cool experience to be able to meet some of a senator and then also one of our members of the house.

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Uh hi, I'm Mia. Um one of my favorite parts from the local officials day was going what's it the house? We were in the Senate building. Okay. We went to a very fancy place. I know that can't remember the name. But then we got a shout out from someone important. I was in the house chamber. See? Yeah, that was in the house. It was Ernesto from Jason Thompson. Yeah, from Jason Thompson. We got um a shout out while um they were in session. Yeah.

Yeah, that was really fun. We also got to talk with people from other youth councils cuz we were doing like this scavenger type scavenger hunt thing where we had to go look around the capital, go like talk to people. It was like really fun. And then we also got to speak with um our representative which was really fun. He also gave us books like N said and it was honestly really fun. And then we also this year we actually got to stay for when um Governor Cox went on so that was really cool and fun. And yeah, thank you guys. Yeah. Um both uh Jason Thompson and um

Chris Wilson gave us some time and and um Jason Thompson spent a good half an hour with us talking and sharing experiences both personal experiences and and just working as a representative for for our community. So it was a great experience. Thank you Ernesto. And thank you to our youth council members. That was cool to hear about that. One of these days I'll get to go. You can volunteer. Yeah, you can. You too can volunteer. I know. I tried to, but there were two others going this year. Um, sign yourself up to be a one of the two. Yeah, I know. Next year. Um, Jeanie, do you want to give us a planning commission update?

Sure. Uh, so planning commission reviewed four different projects um last week. Uh, two of them were resubmitts. Um if you know how it works, um people bring projects, they are approved, but if they don't pull a building permit within a certain length of time, their project expires and they have to start over. So these two were startovers, doovers as I should say. Uh one of them is at 655 East 400 North in the campus residential zone. that will be student housing and the other one is 651E600 North in the campus residential zone and that will also be student housing. Uh, one of them will house quite a few more students. The one on 400 North will host house quite a few more students than the other one. The third item that was um voted on was an expansion and upgrade for the island market. uh one of our favorite places in town. And I believe that once you see the changed island market, it will look even better than it looks now because they're going to take off the roof that hangs over the sidewalk and they're going to add about 800 square ft, I believe,

design. No, it's only 491 square feet supermarket. And um so that worked out. There will be some green space around it now and a few real parking places. So, that'll be exciting. That is a current efficiency.

Yes. And last but not least, uh public works. Um we have a large public works facility out on 10th West. It's a funny building. It's used to be red. Looks like it's half buried. Um that building has reached its useful life and maybe did a while ago. Um, and in some cases, every vehicle that is uh that operates within the city will at one point in time spend time in that building. And we now have pieces of equipment that are too large to fit through the doors. So, we're working on a new campus plan for public works, our power and light company, and our parks and wreck. And it's a large project. Phase one uh was approved by planning commission and that will be some uh repair bays and a truck wash and a storage building for um parks and wreck which is badly needed for them. So that is what happened at planning commission.

Thank you Jean. Thanks for going to planning commission and always giving us an update. It's my favorite thing to do. one of my favorite things. More favorite than coming to this meeting? I said it's one of my favorite things to do. Um we we will now move to item 7 C which is council announcements. This is a time for the council members. If you have anything to share with the public or the council, um I will turn the time to the council.

I will say that um we had a good library board meeting. Um, we talked quite a bit about the maker space uh because it has accelerated in use. So, it started out a little slow and it's just going skyrocketing. And so there's some concern about having somebody there to help with the equipment and we don't really have staff that's able to know all the ins and outs of all the machines and I know that SaitTiva had planned at one point in time in creating sort of classes and things like that. So the library board will be working toward that. I also went to the council of governments training uh which was very very interesting because um Cash County's council of governments is comprised of all the mayors and it relates with the CM the cash metropolitan planning organization. Um so the planning organization receives some funding. The council of governments also receives funding from some of the sales tax um that's allocated to roads in the county. And this council of governments has been formed specifically to implement road projects within the county and um that that help to move the master plan that's done by CMO forward. So, it's a critical group of people. There were a lot of new mayors, a lot of questions, and um it was really interesting to be able to be there and I came as a CMPO member. So, that's all I have to say.

Thank you, Jean.

Yeah, I'd like to share that last month actually the youth council as I can't remember who mentioned. I think it was Hyram, we visited the um the warming center and it was quite the interesting experience. I know we've heard from them before here at council, but just being there and understanding a little bit more how it functions and and and the things that they're able to offer to this very vulnerable population, uh it was very insightful and and thankful that we have that in our community. Uh, and another thing I wanted to highlight is that in the last couple weeks, I've received a handful of mix of inquiries, requests, complaints from from uh our constituents. And it um more so than maybe in previous months. And um I just want to encourage to people to to reach out to us whenever there is something that is bogging their mind. There was uh one of them that was complaining about a winter parking infraction when u they actually had a winter parking permit on on the street. And uh turns out that there was just a an issue with their license plate that led them to to get the the traffic violation and and so or the the the parking uh citation. And so yeah, please reach out to us because it it can make a big difference to make us aware of these things uh and at times to actually fix some of these things right away.

Thank you. I'll share one or two short things unless you have something. I just have one quick thing. I'll go first then unless you want me to. Um you go ahead. No, actually you should because yours covers something. But maybe it does. Do you want to arm wrestle for it?

Rock, paper, scissors. Um, I have the privilege of attending uh LPC every Monday. Craig and Rich are smiling and laughing because they also have the privilege and I will continue to call it a privilege. Um, and I think some of you have probably done that in the past, but that's the legislative policy committee uh with the utilities, the city and towns. Um, and they cover it's a weekly meeting during the legislative session to cover different bills and that are on the House and Senate floor at the state level. Um, and there are some interesting ones that I was talking to Rich again yesterday about that. We probably will see some concerning ones.

There are some concerning ones. Yeah. regarding property tax and uh reducing the allow the allowable amount of fund reserves we're allowed to hold and a few things that I think uh we'll probably be hearing more about. Um but that is always a it's a highlight of my week to spend two two plus hours as they speed run through 900 and how many bills are on the state house floor this year? It's 900 something. It's a big number. It's a big number and obviously we don't cover all of them but but we run through a bunch of them. Um and another one that I thought was interesting this week is the uh it's House Bill 514. Um the Utah Energy Council amendments. I don't know if you guys listened to that one this week. Um but apparently they're looking at creating a special district where the house in a quasi way I mean the state in a quasi way could own energy production. So power plants in the state. So, which could be What are you whispering?

It's IP. IP. Yeah. But it's a interesting There were some interesting ones this week. That's not a surprise. I don't necessarily love most of the ones that were there this week, but maybe that's how everyone's below us bills cuz that's how I feel about everyone below above us. So, three weeks.

Yeah. Um, but that was a a interesting meeting this week. I feel like, you know, we're getting late in the legislative session, so it's things are becoming more concrete, so it's interesting to see where they go. Um, the only other thing I'll share is Mayor Anderson and I have uh and at Mayor Anderson's initiative have started open office hours. Um, and they are the first Tuesday of every month at 4:30 p.m. You can meet in the lobby and we'll just be in the conference room over here. Um, we had a couple people pop in today and talk to us and it was fantastic. I mayor Anderson and I talked to someone about dark sky initiatives for Logan City and um, Lisa I didn't what's her last name? I didn't catch it, but Lisa,

is she back there? Oh, she's back there. Hi, Lisa. I didn't realize you'd stayed and hid in the back row. But it was great to be able to talk to some people about things and just kind of have that open office hours. We'll be rotating council members. Um, we don't have someone signed up for next month. So, if someone wants to do next month Oh, I thought you were just going to assign us. Well, we don't have someone to sign. So, if someone wants to do it next month, let me know. Otherwise, I'll sign you. Okay. Um, it was very enjoyable. It was It was a good time. Yeah. So, we'll send all the mean people next week in a sign. next to me. Happy to be there. Happy to be there. We'll double it out real quick. That's that's a couple things that I've been working on in the past couple weeks. Katie, I think I covered yours.

You didn't, but I it it was the website redesign. I did that today, too. Exactly. That's why I thought And you probably have more information since I wasn't able to attend, but Mike and I are on a committee that is just in the early days of um with Mayor Anderson and some staff members.

Yes. But uh on um a website redesign committee to look at uh you know what's working, what's not working for a website, looking at other cities and what's working well, looking at other good models. So just at the beginning of that process um but I just thought it's worth mentioning because I know there are a lot of people who um would like to see you know some changes with their website. So, and the other one I was not able to attend unfortunately. Um, but uh with the general plan meetings, there was the uh meeting with the Hillrest neighborhood or at the Hillrest Elementary. Um, and I don't know how that went because I was not there. Were you?

It went great. Genie and I attended. Great. And it was wonderful. Good input. It was a good It was probably the smallest. It was the smallest, but it was still good to get all the All three meetings were very productive. They were very and I think it was probably the smallest partially too because people could go to any one and so it was the third of of three and I like it that Aaron had you know stick and tell kind of thing here did a great job. Yeah, it was it gave it engaged people really well. Yeah, that's good job. Awesome. Hands-on participation.

Okay. Well, if there's nothing else, we will move to our action items for the evening. We only have one uh and I will turn the time over to Mayor Anderson to discuss resolution 2606. I would say this is a bit of housekeeping because to participate in our Utah America 250 celebration and get access to logos and copyrights and things. Uh we had to organize a committee and it needs to be approved by resolution from the council.

Easy. It's pretty straightforward, but we were at a little bit of a timeline and so we had to be very quick and efficient and so we invited all the members of the executive committee to be on our council. The agenda has us taking 20 more minutes on this. So I don't think the council members have questions. You can take 20 minutes if you would like, but this allow this actually like So I hope some of you guys have questions. Resolution 260. We have a motion. I will second my mouth. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor, please say I. I. Any opposed? See, we didn't have to do that. Resolution 2606 passes. Thank you so much.

Easy housekeeping. That's exactly what we needed. So, that means we now need to take more time on ordinance 2606. Uh, and I'll invite Russ Holly up here to run us through this workshop. And uh I was going to say we're all very familiar with this, but I guess Katie, we'll get to join the party tonight. Okay. Oh, if you're Are you going to start from scratch? No. Oh, get the abbreviated version, but um Katie Kat say so. Yep.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. About 10 years ago, we were approached by K only 10 years ago. only 10 years ago. Um he had recently purchased a property in the MR12 zone and he thought he could build a duplex. Uh we realized that it was an illegal subdivision. So we tried to remedy that with the help of Kim Kimber um How'sley. Um, but after about a year and a half of unsuccessful progress, um, we decided to approach council for an upzone so that he could just build his duplex, what he originally thought he could do, um, without remedying the the subdivision. So, we did that. Um, and then a series of things happened, co um, he let that up zone expire. We downzoned it. Uh he then came back a second time and said, "Okay, I'm really serious this time. I'm gonna I'm gonna build my duplex." And so council upzoned it. Um and then that one expired um because he felt like uh duplex wasn't the best fit for the property. A forplex was actually a better fit for the property. And so last year we upzzoned it a third time for the forplex. And um

council member Amy Anderson specifically said, "Do not let this one expire because we're not going to do it a four time. We're not doing it again." And then she instructed me to submit a downzone in January of 2026 to downzone it back. And so that's what I did. You didn't have to listen to her in January. Just saying. But uh he had to have pulled a building permit before we did that, right? So 2 weeks before that expired, he sold the property and the new owner pulled a building permit right before it expired. And so we have an entitled forplex. I don't think they've started digging. Um but

they only have what, two years to do that. They have 6 months to to initiate that building permit. So I'm I'm hoping they will. This new owner seems to But they have started. They've broke ground. No, they have not broken ground. Oh, I thought you said they started digging. They have not started digging. They pulled a building permit. Is it entitled? Um, and this is the location here. And this is it's 2 months old now. Yeah. So, this is the current zoning. We we upzone that little chunk to MR20. This is the down zone. So, that's the abbreviated version. Any questions? Wow. We suspend. That's my I have no questions.

There's a lot of history. My only comment. There's a lot of history on this. There's a lot of history. Talk for hours, but I don't want to. I see Greg. This one will be more fun. The next one will be more fun. Just vote today. Promise. Wonderful. Anything else for Russ Holly from the council? No, I think we've asked all those questions before. Okay, we'll move to uh item 9B, which is the Maple View subdivision reszone. We're cruising right along tonight. Thank you. Kick us off with a new one this time.

This is new. This is an application from Brad Brown um for Dean and Joyce Anderson or Adams property located at 350 South 1400 West. This is the Maple View subdivision reszone and it's located just west of Equestrian State. They are requesting a reszone from NR4 to MR9. Uh this is 10 acres. It's um essentially vacant. There's a agricultural barn in the the bottom left corner. Um, this reszone request does not include any sort of subdivision or design review. Um, it's just a reszone. The general plan and the current future land use plan or flop calls out the area as DR, which is detached residential or single family. The current zone is NR4 and NR4 allows single family homes on quarter acre lots or four homes per acre. The request to MR9 would allow up to nine units per acre and allows a mix of housing structure types. So town homes, duplexes, um things like that are allowed in the MR9 zone. There's also a overlay zone that impacts the the far northwest corner of this property about a little under an acre. That is the landfill overlay zone which says you cannot build a house within this overlay zone because of possible groundwater contamination issues.

So, that is an area that I think would be a great spot for a storm water retention or possibly a little community park or or something beside the house. Now, you could also do a house on the front part of the lot and then have the back part of the lot um you know, a shop or an extended backyard. That would be acceptable. But a single family dwelling inside of that hatch mark is no longer allowed. You can see the subdivision to the northeast um was was designed and laid out in that manner. And this area here is a larger storm water retention pond that dies every year.

Um so there's the overlay zone. A

lot of grass. Um the surrounding existing development is mainly single family detached at varying lot sizes. Equestrian Estates is larger lot up to a half acre. Uh to the norththeast you have Ashberry which is the the NR6 zoning. So that's about a sixth of an acre lot or 6,000 square ft. Um, as you go farther south, um, there's some new visionary, uh, projects that have a range of of housing types. Some of them are 6,000 square ft. There's some that have some town homes in the area. And then as you go farther south, it's predominantly single family detached. The red line is the city boundary. So, this is kind of on the edge of town. Um, all the areas to the west though are in our annexation plan. and uh eventually we think those will be part of the city in the future. Uh we did receive two written comments after the report went out. Um and then at the planning commission meeting we had a pretty good turnout. We had about a dozen neighbors that showed up about uh nine commented. Most of them were concerned. uh they did not like the idea of MR9 and felt like it was just uh incompatible with the the surrounding patterns and um so they they were mainly in opposition to the request project's been duly noticed and planning commission ultimately recommended denial and they voted 6 in that recommendation. I am happy to answer questions about Maple View subdivision zone. So Russ, I think one of the important pieces also is that the Woodruff plan, neighborhood

plan was very they wanted to make certain that as their neighborhood grew, they would be able to offer a variety of housing types and lot sizes to have people be able to live in the neighborhood their entire lifespan. And they felt very strongly that they needed to have some NR4 in this in that mix along with NR6 and all the rest of it. And the piece that is below that NR4 piece that is a higher zone was only done because he wanted to do smaller lots but they're all single family houses. Is that correct?

Partially. So that's the Visionary product. It's MR9. It's called Sugar Creek. They have a large section of wetlands. So their overall density was like four units per acre, but they ended up with some town homes kind of in the middle and then some 6,000 square ft single family lot sizes around the perimeter. So it's a mix, but their overall density was about four units per acre. Okay. Good information. So anyway, other questions for Russ.

Did you already tell us who um defined that area, the environmental area where I cannot build residential? So it's based off a quarter mile offset from a landfill. It's It's rooted in some state law that says don't build a house within quarter mile of the landfill. Um we we mapped it out based on our actual Is that why is that why it like Yeah. Yeah. That's why it kind of bubbles is because it's not a perfect circle landfill. It kind of es and flows. So it's a quarter mile from the closest edge landill kind of from the toe of the slope if you will. Mhm.

And so our our department, your department is the one that outlines that area. Yeah. Well, GIS actually maps it, but we adopt it as part of our official zoning map as an overlay zone, and it's similar to our historic overlay or our south corridor overlay. We have several overlays, but it has state law behind it. It's rooted in state law and so I think it it carries a little more impact than some some of our overlay zones in terms of no build. Yeah, I think it's I think it's sound practice too. I I wouldn't want to kind of risk it.

I agree. If you build a house next to the overlay zone and the backyard is in the overlay zone, do prospective buyers is are they notified of that in any way or is it their due diligence to purchase? I mean, uh, so there's a couple different ways. If if you platted a subdivision, you could, um, obviously you would mark that on the subdivision and say, "These lots are restricted." Sometimes you put an R on it because because it would change what someone could add onto their house at later points or add an ADU in the backyard, right? An ADU would be an issue, right? Um but a shed or a garage

wouldn't be an issue. But um as part of that plat, you would also have a tag that maybe goes onto a deed that says this lot is restricted. You know, the back 100 ft is um you know, restricted in the fall. So you can add language like that. We typically do that at the subdivision phase. Um, but at this phase, we're just talking about zing.

Any more questions for Russ? I'll probably have more in a couple weeks. You know where to find Russ. Um, this is this is maybe more of a question for Craig. Um, and I know this isn't on the um ordinance that we're viewing today. Um, but I've met with Brad briefly regarding this. Um, and I know they're willing and offering to do a deed restriction and development agreement. Uh I know planning commission talked we don't do these

well I know planning commission talked PDO briefly in their discussion. Can you run me through the on a small property like this pros and cons differences of deed restriction and development agreement versus PDO? We and I don't know if that's a Russ or Craig question. Well, we decided some time ago we enacted the PDO ordinance that we're not doing de restrictions any longer. Sure. Um, so that's been the practice going forward. I don't know how big was this parcel. It's 10 acres. 10 acres. So a PDO is an option here. It is. Yeah. Um, PDO gives a little bit more input for the council from the get-go of what this is going to look like.

Um, if you like the plan, if you don't like the plan from the very start, each restriction, you can kind of do the same thing, uh, but not quite as much input or from the from the ground floor. Anything else? just that we offered the PDO option up front to the applicant. Um he thought that this was better for for his situation is to just apply for a straight reszone. PDO does take longer. It's it's kind of a two-step process one rather than a one-step process. Um he did have some slides and some kind of schematic layouts or preliminary layouts

which I believe he said to the whole as well. It's not part of the official application. Sometimes we'll get an application that's a subdivision and a reszone at the same time. Um, this is just a straight restraint, which I understand. What is if we directed him to a PDO, what is the fastest possible assuming everything went smoothly? How long does a PDO have to take? Well, we have to renose it and there's a minimum 10day notice and then to get on the planning commission docket, you know, you're probably looking at a month to get that done. Um, and then get back here. So, probably the two months, but again, that's supposed to be the concept review, right?

And then feedback's given and then they go back to the start and go back through the final process. So, it's two to four months. Okay? I should say it's like four months. Okay? two months for the the concept, four months for the total. We've kind of taken de restrictions off the table. I understand that. Okay. And the idea I think is when we do a PDO, it is a part of code and anybody can see that this is what's happened to this property. DE restriction is recorded against the property, but it's not quite as apparent to the public and to the property owners. That's the only other question I have.

Anything else for Russ? Okay. Well, we'll see you in two weeks, Russ. Thanks for running through both those with us. You're welcome. Thank you. We will move through to resolution 2607 and we'll have Tyson Godfrey. He's hiding behind the pillar over there. Uh give us a run through on this one. Thanks for coming in, Tyson. Yeah, I almost gave a powerboard update, too, but I decided to do my presentation for me. No, I didn't.

Okay. Um, I get the exciting topic tonight of an updated uh power pooling agreement with UAMS. So this is our main contractual and governing agreement with Uamps and it is two main reasons it's being updated. One, it's really old and you can interrupt Tyson. Yep. I just wonder for in case there are individuals here who don't know what UWAMPs is, could you uh state what it the acronym is for? what it kind of in a short very brief I'm sorry you're going to make me remember the acronym yeah or

Utah effectively what it is municipal power systems yeah Utah association municipal power systems so it's the joint action uh group that we are a part of that is um a collection of a large number of the municipal utilities in Utah and through Uamps we participate in power markets and a lot of our power projects. Thank you. Um the current agreement is from 1980. Yes. Just to keep that in perspective. It's very old and we that was before actual were invented. 1988. That's way older than I am. My parents weren't married to that one. I don't think.

Yeah. Over that time there's a lot of things that develop that are operating practices within U amps that aren't really covered by. And the other main reason it's being updated is the extended day ahead market that we're being required to join that's starting May 1st is also not covered by the current agreement. Very important that is coming up fast. So this agreement needs to be updated and approved before May 1st so that u amps can do what it needs to do for us joining that day ahead market. I think we should take three months to talk about it.

Yeah. So um couple main things that this agreement does. It's all of the um authorizations for UAPs to act as our scheduling agent. So this is the main portion where EDAM the extended day head market comes into play. This gives them all the authorizations that they need to be able to um participate in that market on our behalf. Um it also defines um market purchase rules and kind of rules of engagement when it comes to uh buying and selling power through u amps through that market and it also has a lot of details in there on settlement and billing how that's handled that wasn't ne agreement and then this is what I mentioned is formalizes a lot of the uh previous informal ways that we operate it into a formal agreement. So all around it's good um to to formalize all of these operating procedures and contractual relationships.

So Tyson, did you have to redo this or did Uamps redo it? Yes. So yes, the it is one agreement that Uamps So every city is signing the same agreement with UAPs. So UAPs developed it. We had a lot of issues with the first couple of drafts of it. So we worked with Uamps to resolve a lot of issues, gave a lot of feedback that they took and incorporated. And when they did that, they did that for all of the cities, not just for Logan.

So we had a lot of good good working back and forth with them. And then same thing, other cities that had input, they made those changes and that applied to everyone. So it's where it stands right now. Everyone is signing the same agreement. It's a collective process. Yep. So they're not making St. George doesn't get a different agreement and everyone is signing the same one. In the past, was that possible? No, it's everyone's always been on the same one. Yep. And everyone's been all on the one from 1980. Yep. So within it, there is an appendix that has some Logan specific items. Okay.

Um but the main agreement is the same for everyone. So basically the just briefly through this one the the way the agreement works is it sets up a process for um doing forecasting annual purchase plans. Um you'll see this term a lot in the agreement. It's called they call it consigning our resources. It sounds concerning like we're just turning it over to them, but but really it just means we're authorizing them as our scheduling agent to um act in the market based on our instructions to you amps. So we still retain full control over our resources, but but they have to you they have to know how much of your our resources are going into the

day the day of market. And so that would be what a consignment would mean. Correct. Exactly. Okay. Yep. So we still have control over what gets bid into the market, what our resources are, when they get run, when they don't. And we talked about this at the power board, but I think it's important to clarify again, and I know you're talking about it right now, but if we choose not to run a resource, say one of the natural gas plants that we signed up for last year, because something's better come has come up, maybe more renewable or whatever, we can choose that and they cannot override us. We're saying, "Hey, we're running this geothermal, even if it's more expensive. We don't want to run this unless x, y, or essentially your

yep scheduling." We get to determine the scheduling. They don't care about the price, right? I mean, my understanding would be that we would say we have x number of megawws and it's comprised of this that we're delivering to the to to the next day market. Yes. And we have the backup to do that. When I because the way I understood the next day market, we have to have 100% of our resources covered. Yep. In order to not be

penalized. Correct. So, yeah, basically we we get to say, yeah, here's our resource stack and for example, our new local natural gas plant. We can say there's 10 megawws there and we want you to bid it into the market at this price and they'll go and bid it into the market at that price and then they'll come back and say okay you were chosen to run and here's what you're required to run based off of what we told them to do in the market. Okay. So it's yeah basically they're we can't just go we don't have the technology or the capability or the staff to go run all these things on the market ourselves. So, it's just all going through you amps as our scheduling agent.

Um, okay. And then they're also responsible for all of the settlement and then billing on the other side after. It's kind of like having a stock broker. Yeah. Exactly. You keep you keep your stocks, but you say, "I want to invest it here. Please do that." And then they go and do that. I do it. Yep. Exactly. That's a great example. Even when they say it's not a bad not a good idea. Sometimes they'll say, "That's not a great idea, but I'll do it anyway." Yeah.

Um and there are like we still have the same constraints we have on certain resources that if we've already bought natural gas and we have to run new then like we still have constraints but UAPs is acting as our agent not going off and doing their own thing with our resources.

Um so we'll skip straight to the bottom line. We're going to recommend approving this agreement. Um feel like that with the changes in this latest agreement that we feel comfortable with it. Um it's been through legal. We understand all of our entitlement shares. Um we understand what our long-term commitments are through UAPs with the different projects we're in. Um and then this is the pooling appendy is the one that has Logan specific agreements with Uamps. So this is where we give UAM specific constraints or instructions on how to treat our resources and this is a appendix that is referenced in this agreement but we're able to update this and keep it current outside of the agreement. So, they kind of took the approach with a lot of things that they're putting the main foundation of the agreement and what we're asking council to approve, but a lot of the like day-to-day details on how stuff operates are in appendices that can get updated as things change. Um,

that makes very good sense. Yeah. Just there's a lot of uncertainties. It's like, yeah,

we don't want to be coming back to get new agreements approved every six months. So, um, we think that's a good way to handle it. Um, yeah, like I mentioned, a lot of improvements over the initial agreement. Um, adding those resource protections that we control, our own scheduling, um, requiring us and UAPs to come into an agreement of what our load forecast for the year, not letting UAPs do that without our input. um how costs are allocated among different members of UAPS was a a big one that was added. Um adding cost causation principles into that contract. Um and then another one is that they also added a formal um process for approving and modifying appendices where that will go through the UAX project management committee um which is a committee that Mark sits on and has the ability to vote and have input on

Mark McGomery. Mark Montgomery. Not mayor. Not mayor. Mark. I mean, you could do light power if I wanted to. You mean light power. I think we let Mark continue. He does a good job. He is more capable. I just felt like that was worth probably clarifying with the two marks. And then I just wanted to highlight there are some risk inherent to this agreement. It's nothing nefarious or or wrong. It's just kind of the nature of the agreement. But we are financially on the hook for all payments to U amps. So even if they make

some purchaser decision that we think is dumb but it flows through like ultimately all costs get allocated to GMPS members and we're part of that. So we are unless it's like an an error that can be corrected somewhere we are on the hook financially to pay for everything. We can't just push it back and say we didn't like that amp. You have to pay for it because they don't have money. It all comes back. We agree to the projects ahead of time and the participation, right? Yes. So, but they can make a scheduling thing or a day ahead purchase. Yeah. They can make a purchase that we didn't like or things like that because that is to fill a gap or to cover a shortfall

because ultimately at some point they have to fill a short fall regardless of what we want to do because it's required as being part of the market. So, yeah, there are There are things. Another example was last summer there was a request for a power purchase and they did 15 megawws instead of 10 megawws by accident but the purchase had already executed and you can't go ask for a refund. So we were on the hook for it even though it was their error. Um so things like that just to be aware of like we are ultimately on the hook financially. Um there's no limits to that. Nope. to I typed in 150.

Yep. That's some of that's on us, right, to pay be paying attention. Yep. So, Yep. Yeah. Yeah. It's And I mean, one slip in a long time. Yeah. I don't think there have been many. No, there have not been many. It's rare, but it's just something to be aware of. Yeah. And Yeah. They've been a good person. Yeah. Um, so there is also a 5-year minimum notice of exiting this agreement, but exiting this agreement would be exiting us. Us. Yeah.

So, I don't think that's a big issue. And we we also have a lot of project commitments through them that are a lot longer than 5 years. So, the 5-year minimum notice would be the least of our issues of getting out if we for some reason wanted to do that. um for those day ahead purchases, they have a line of credit that they put those on that ultimately we're liable for. Same thing as those purchases. Um we do have a proportional share of all UAMP's overhead that gets flowed back to the members. Mark does Mark Montgomery does sit on the budget committee so he has input on what their admin costs are and other cities have the same incentives we do. So it's not a big concern, but if the UAPS budget committee approved a 200% salary raise for everyone at UAPS, that would flow through back to us. So again, not a big concern, but just something to be aware of.

Well, a proportional share of it would flow back to us.

Exactly. Yep. Um and I don't think there's really anything here that I need to go through. Um there's a lot of details in the agreement about billing and how that works, but um nothing here that's that's really a concern. Um, and then I already mentioned this, we UAX has its own governance that a lot of the details of day-to-day execution and annual purchase plans and um resource decisions go through and we do have representation and input and voting rights on that that committee. So, um, any questions? And we're lucky because Mark has been on it for a long time and I think he really understands how it works and he is respected for his participation and his knowledge. So,

Yep. Yeah. He's committee on the budget committee and has a lot of input and influence in MS. He doesn't look out just for Logan, he looks out for all the members. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yep. For sure. One of the slides do you have that um to participate in EDAM um you have to go through u yes that actual municipalities cannot participate directly into it. So cities that um are on Rocky Mountain Power Rocky Mountain Power are the ones that are participating on

Yep. Yeah. So the way that it's it's working is that Rocky Mountain Power or Pacific Core as a whole, they're the balancing authority for the area. So ultimately they're the one that is running everything through the market. So the way that it works is that they treat U amps as a single entity on their system. And so UAMPs has to work to meet the total UAMPs load with Rocky Mountain Power. And then Umps takes what they had to do as a whole and that gets divided up among the individual members depending on our our load. So if we're 10% of the UMP's load during a certain hour, then whatever happens during that hour, we have that kind of proportional responsibility for the total of U amps. So yeah, it's operationally it's Rocky Mountain Power doesn't want to deal with 30 different individual cities. So really they look at UAMPS as kind of like one single organization even though it's not but that's how they treat it and then UAMPs is the one that is responsible for dividing that out among the members as far as

Are there any except exceptions that you know of no um there's I'm pretty sure every city in Utah is either part of Uamps or UMPA which is a similar type organization. So through one of those two groups, everyone's participating. So it's Yeah, there's no one that's off doing this on their own. It would be we would have to be spending millions of dollars a year for it would be overwhelming. Yeah. For staff and contractors and systems and it would Yeah. I mean, it's it's overwhelming for you amps honestly and they're pulling resources from 30 individual members. So

it's a good deal for us. It's a good deal for Rocky Mountain. Yep. Yeah. It makes it Yeah. Yeah. It makes it feasible for everyone. Yeah. Makes it manageable for everybody. Thanks, Tyson. Thank you. Thank you. We'll see you back in two weeks. For the abbreviated version. Yep. We'll go to our last workshop item. Well done for your first presentation. Is that his first? No, it's not. You've had another one. In his position, though. Oh, yeah. Has he come yet? Yeah, I say you've come to a position. I thought it was your first one. Yeah, he he hasn't started wearing a tie like Mark yet, though, so we might have to have to work on that. Yeah.

Um, we'll turn to Rich Anderson with resolution 2608. Yeah, several items to consider. Um, mostly run on the bill. I'll draw a little bit of attention to one. First is request appropriate 30,710 of insurance proceeds toward equipment uh repair. Unfortunately, this happens quite frequently where somebody runs into us or something of the like. Hopefully that way. In this case, it was a fire truck, fire engine uh that was hit and these are it's been repaired and everything's great, but these are finally the insurance process.

These are expensive repairs. I know, but it's just like a fire engine. How do you miss it? You know, I mean, it's going slowly. Come on. Do they say when they go down the road?

Next is request appropriate 10,786. This is the library cleft grant that we've received for many years uh for collection, development, and technology. Next is a request to appropriate 400,000 of additional construction budget for electrical con uh because we've had additional connections than we budgeted for. So we budgeted a certain level and when the construction season happens and it exceeds the level which we budgeted, we have to come back and ask for additional budget. Good news is we do have the connection revenue that covers this. Um Oh, I I now I get it. Yeah, it was like my brain was going connection.

There's more connections than we anticipated. So we Yeah. So we we're we're building more and we have more things that need electricity than we had anticipated were going to be online. Yes. Okay. Sometimes it's more things, sometimes it's just more cost. This is probably more cost than we anticipated, right? Like everything. Nonetheless, that's the cost of the connection fee. Fairly fairly normal. Although it we've had to do this last couple years and we'll see what the future holds. Well, the costs have accelerated at such an exponentially. Yeah. And such a wildly unpredictable pace. It stabilized a little bit recently, but still.

Yeah. We may have to look at the amount that we budget. The problem is this is on the residential side at least this year was higher than on the commercial side for the revenue. And it just depends on which get built,

what's getting built and and what percentages. So, just something we'll have to watch. Uh, next is a request and these these next two are part of the same thing. We do send our firefighters out on wildland deployments. Our firefighters are also EMTs. So, some of them are in the emergency management or emergency medical services fund, which is where we run our ambulances and things like that. So, uh, request appropriate 361,625 to the fire department general fund and a request to appropriate 39,0002 again for wildland reimbursements for the EMS fund. Are these reimbursements from the state?

Uh, I think many of them are. So, we run we run on wildland for the state. They call us out and then they reimburse us the cost. Is that what this is? Okay. And this is like from last summer. Y last summer. Okay. Hopefully we're not having wild fires off. We typically wait until we've received most of those in until

But this is similar to some of the uh police overtime shifts that we we do. It's just the fire equivalent. Unfortunately, there's no way to do it beforehand for like we typically like to instead we do it afterwards and hope that this is acceptable to council. Any questions for Rich that we didn't interrupt him with? No. Any other considerations before we adjourn? We're all right. 30 minutes early. Nice work. Too late.