Fiscal Court - Regular Meeting

join us here today. Let everyone be here. Before we call this meeting to order, um Jason, you want to lead us in prayer, please. Dear God, thank you for this day that you've given us and thank you for the opportunity that you've allowed us to meet here and conduct the business of the county. God, just help us to have the wisdom to make the decisions that we need that'll be in honor and favor of you, Lord. We thank you for every citizen here, Lord. And we ask for your guidance, God, and just be with our community, Lord. And thank you for everything that you've done for us. In Jesus name, I pray. Amen. Amen.

Amen. We're going to close the door by saying the pledge to our flag. to the flag of the United States of America and for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [clears throat] Good morning everyone once again. Thank you for being here. Call this meeting to order. First item of business is approval and minutes. [clears throat] Make a motion to approve the minutes as presented. Second.

I have a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Not a roll call. Dart, yes. Good. Yes. Wilcott, yes. Harper, yes. Crawford, yes. Holden, yes. Baker, yes. Moving forward, representatives from the Sons of the American Revolution will present to the court. Gentlemen, it's your time. Your time to shine. Richard, Matt, how are you guys? Doing well.

Well, I believe all of you have received a packet for what we about to talk about. So, it should be on your drive. Oh, on here. Yes. Yes, ma'am. So basically what we want to discuss just for a few minutes the last time we were here we were asked to go back and do some homework which we've done and during that time we have found out one of the things with the monument he got a sketch of the monument

due to his weight and also we found out due to a statue that was passed on the state of Kentucky I think it's 2024 or institute that Any structure that was erected on state property or a facility like your courthouse has to have wind rating. Has a what? A wind rating. Wind rating. A wind rating for your county for tornado or or anything like that.

Okay. So, dig doing some research, finding out information. our spot. Uh since we're considered in tornado country or whatever you want to call that, uh it's a category of hazard level three, which is about 128 mph winds. So that changed the whole concept of what the foundation would look like. So you should have diagram that looks like and it looks like Fort Knox. So it's a massive amount of concrete, rebar, steel bars, and it's been designed to take that land. So we that's what we put on. You can see that design. It's a lot of things, a lot of details involved that we probably don't need to. And that's our designer is a retired engineer. He's on a lot of department, Tom Gillum. He designed this horse and did an excellent job. So, we have that. You can see all the details for the concrete. We do have a bid out to H&M sheet metal to give us a hard quote on what that's going to cost. So, we're waiting on the I got a word of mouth type estimate, but I would like to have it in paper. You know what I'm saying? So, that out there. And also, you have in front of you, I can see that some of you talking about this is the concept of what the policy would look like. And I will let Matt, you want to talk about

Yeah. I mean, just if y'all have any questions, this is what we're submitting for our final design. And and there's still just a few like small tweaks to this, but nothing, you know, that we would have to go back and redraw. But if y'all have any questions, I'll take any of those that you got at this moment. It's going to be beautiful.

It goes from sidewalk to sidewalk to road to road. I mean, it fills in that. It's going to take down your whole space up. And what this is, and this is just one of those little details. So that does show a white limestone border, but it'll actually be as wide as what your wall is. You know what I'm saying? It'll be a nice 18 in that encapsulate all that paperwork and all the names and everything like that. The monument uh white limestone wall in the back with the capping on top of it that will match the uh front. Yep. That's a warehouse. Yeah. Matter of how how would the monument I guess dow into that foundation that you just

So you got if you you might have if you keep on scrolling over you might have some details on that um and it's going to look like this right here.

So there's pins that go all the way down into that footer underneath that monument that we template that will underneath that piece of granite. It will have those holes drilled and those pins are going to slide right into that piece of granite. That works in with the EF3 wind rating to make sure that that structure doesn't have any any reason to go closer. It's got the T type at the bottom of it. You can see it tuck across double cross that's going in around that this acre is going to go

so many inches below that and up into the monument and it's going to be at least 40 something in two line it's it's massive. They're inch and 3/4 and drill 2 in holes. The two on the outside will be slightly longer for us when we set it and line it up so it fits slid out. Okay. I think it's so this is one of those good things that keeps heaven more good things added more we know more about than we ever thought you would have to let me ask you do you have an idea what the difference in your cost is looking at now yes it's gone up quite I see

total number is the estimate on the foundation we were not expecting this but with this design that the verbal I had is $30,000 Okay.

Okay. We do know the stone itself is probably around let's see we were estimating 20. It's going to be about 25 right now. The stone itself that's including engraving and everything. Plus that includes if you notice on the drawing we have a uh two you see that base how it's made is two. Those are two granite slabs 10 in thick. Uh and they be staggered and they'll mount right on top of the foundation. And on those there'll be certain things engraved like the Benjamin Logan chapter uh the daughters of the blessed D chapter so forth. There'll be some other things that will engrave with the base and then all engravement will be on the front side for all the patrons identified that'll be buried. We'll have a heading. We haven't really decided on the heading yet what what how that's going to look and but we know on the back side you you may not have that the drawing that

well but I've seen it so Patriot farewell that's going on the backside be some other things you're going to it's going to be nice it's going to be nice it's going to be rough edged except for the bottom of course I love the shape of Logan County I think the citizens will love that too I like that you have Kentucky down here. So, you've incorporated everything. Yes. I mean, that'll be something that uh we we will get that cut uh from the stone out of earthqu. And then we're going to have the line. It's the original water lines um that encompass from I mean it it goes almost from like bowling ring all the way to Oh, yeah. Logan was huge.

That'll have it'll have a line on there that that shows that original border line. So, the unique position of this is going to be facing west. So my son, you know, Air Force Street, you're coming in there, you're going to see that thing. It's going to shine. And so it's going to very prominent piece of our community. I guess you said historical. What's your timeline schedule?

We are targeting to have this done by the heritage festival. Okay. It takes like 3 months for them to cut and engrave that stone. It's a place I we'll work through Joe Young Hall. They're helping us with this. And that's is that correct Randy? About 3 months. Three months to cut the stone all the grain and ship it up here. And what we understand when they ship it up here, they will have all the rig in place on the stone ready for it to be picked and set in place. And so the the holes for the rebar, these posts are going to already be in there. So it's just a matter of setting.

That's correct. We're going to make a template. who whoever does the foundation who does does all this will make a steel template that we will fit on and cut it out and send that template to Georgia and they will cut it out using my template. So everything okay be two inch holes and like I said the rods are I think inch and 3/4 so we got a little fun. So anybody else?

Um I think you guys have done wonderful on this. I know you, Richard, you and I, Matt, you and I, we've had a lot and the whole group, Randy, and we we've had a lot of discussion about it. Very excited. This Denise, of course, can't forget Denise on that, but uh you guys have done amazing. I can't wait to see this this project moving forward. Um I is there anything you need from the court at this point? This is how approved the final design and this is what we are presenting, then we're ready to thumbs up and move forward. Do you still have papavers that can be engraved available? Because I've had people ask you, I said, "I don't know if you're sold out or not." Yes, it's still available. You call it archives, you know? Yes. I could have called that like that. Okay.

Okay. We don't want to confuse everybody. It doesn't necessarily have to be a veteran. It's somebody you care about, loved one, somebody you want, have the moral stone and pray. Okay. So we're the costs are pretty reasonable, right? Yeah, I thought they were too. Well, you know, I'll make a motion to approve the final design. Second. I have a motion in a second. If there's any discussion, which I don't think there is, roll call. Yes. Good. Yes. Wil, yes. Yes. Crawford, yes. Holden, yes. Baker, absolutely.

What did you say your win rating was? the EF30. We're in a we're in a likely tornado zone is what he said. I can send it to Yeah, you got Yeah. Okay. Yeah. John, thank you so much. Thank you all.

I've got some u additions to add to this. Uh I'm going to bring forward. Uh John Swords with the South Central Workforce Development has something he needs to present to the court. Um to be honest with you, we didn't think about it until I saw him walk in the door. So, uh come on to the hub, John. John is with South Central work for uh South Central Workforce Development and does a wonderful job. Thank you. Welcome. Thank you, Judge. Thank you, Mattress. I appreciate you uh working me in this morning. I'm here on an administrative matter. Uh I'm seeking approval of what's called an interlocal agreement, and I'll explain what that is. Uh but first I'll tell you just a little bit about the South Central Workforce Development Board. Uh despite our best best efforts, a lot of people don't know who we are and what we do, but we are a uh we are organization that statuto statutoily created by law. And we are here uh to help manage federal workforce dollars that come they get um authorized by Congress and flow down to the state and then down into the region for workforce development activities. So, our organization oversees uh two Kentucky career centers in our 10count grad region and we manage federal workforce funding along with some other state funding and some local funding to uh to put people to work. We're here to help employers find the talent they need and we're help we're here to uh help people get back into the workforce. some of these to federal dollars that we uh that we get uh can be used to upskill people. And so we we off we we pay for a lot of people to go through CDL uh uh training. We fund a variety of different healthc care programs, IT programs and things like that for uh for people that need um that additional assistance to get back into the workforce. So the interlocal agreement um what happens in this in what happens is is that our organization is uh really supervised by all 10 county judge

executives and so there has to be an agreement in place a shared governance agreement in place that discusses the role that all 10 county judges have in supervising what we do. And so in the interlocal agreement um it it states that uh the judges appoint board members. So I have a 23 person board. It's primarily employer driven but we have representation from all 10 counties uh on our board but those folks get appointed by the judges. uh the judges approve my annual budget and so they're every time I meet with them I I generally give them a budget update on what we're doing and uh they approve it annually and then they also approve our fiscal agent. So uh by law we have to have a fiscal agent. This is an this is a basically a CPA type entity that helps us oversee the federal funding. A lot of the funding federal funds go for a reimbursement basis back to the state. the fiscal agent just helps manage those funds to make sure they're staying uh compliant and we're managing everything integrity and uh I mean we've had six years of very very good um the way we're managing these stuff on the same lines. Um, one other aspect of the interlocal agreement I I know you don't have front front of you, but there's a liability section [clears throat] and it talks about what happens if there is mismanagement of those federal funds. And what I like to point out to each of the fiscal courts that I'm visiting is uh you have there there is a there is a a scenario where it comes back to the fiscal court level. That is the fifth and final scenario. The fiscal court system is the backs stop. But if if for some reason there was a financial mismanagement, we were found that to to to have to repay those funds, uh the first way that gets collected back is through the through a contractor that we're using because if they mismanage the funds, they make the mistake,

they're going to pay it back. The second would be through insurance because generally those contracted agencies will have insurance. The third would be uh going back to the state and asking for relief on on on that decision. The the fourth would come to my level uh If we could handle it at the at the fourth, then it comes to the fiscal court level. And what and then what the document lays out is the 10 counties 10 county fiscal courts, the 10 county judges would have to figure that out. Um, now that's never come to pass and we hope that would never come to pass. But you as as magistrates that are voting on the agreement, you just need to know that is a scenario that does exist in the agreement. So this agreement is uh once we get it passed, this 2026 agreement will supersede the 20 2021 agreement that is in effect right now. No material changes to um to the agreement. And I'll just lastly I'll say the agreement is mandated by both state and federal law. Without it, I can't receive federal funds uh to come to come down into the come down. I'm assuming that these funds are allocated according to populations of your counties.

No.

No. The way it works is when Congress appropriates money, they they they use a formula. It's a very kind of wicked formula and and that determines how much each state gets. But components of the formula can include unemployment rates, include poverty rates, and then uh then it gets really tricky. You may start really kind of dissecting uh adult and youth and and dislocated worker uh what's going on in those populations. So that formula is used to determine how much each state is and then and then the state when it comes into the Kentucky Education Labor Cabinet that the cabinet uses that same formula to determine how much each of the 10 workforce areas in Kentucky get. And so, um, typically out of the 10 workforce areas in the state, we're usually ranked number nine lower funding because, um, the Brad region is actually pretty prosperous, has good has very low unemployment, and we typically receive less funding than some of the more depressed or distressed.

Right. Well, let me ask you one more thing. Do you have any kind of idea in your head about how many Logan County citizens have been Uh, I did not bring information with me, but we track I track that very closely. I can tell you down at the penny what we spent on Logan County, how many hours we've spent in Logan County. Um, I didn't bring it into the today's presentation, but I'm happy to provide it back to you. Yeah, I'd like to know. They they do they do quite a bit of work with the jail also. Um, I was going to ask workforce.

That was something we'll bring up later. We're currently, I think, special. We're having our our work ready boot camp this week and followed by [clears throat] new training that is he's going to help us get next week all week and then we'll be conducting job fair. That's some stuff I want to bring in later but we're grateful. But that's going on that started this morning. So we're grateful for that. That's where I started my days. And and our two uh board members from Logan County is Teresa Hayes from Logan Aluminum, human resource manager, and division manager for Carpenters, Kelly Johnson. Those are our two board members that are on the South Central development board.

We've been doing a we did been doing quite a bit of work in Logan County High School this year, too. really working to uh identify work with the school to identify seniors and making sure they've got resumes and and they're prepared to enter the workforce when they graduate here in a few weeks. So, this is something we can let Joe look over and then I guess take action later in the meeting here. Yeah, absolutely. Uh do you have a copy of that? Did did you email it? I've got a very worked up copy. [laughter] Um I'm happy to share it when you judge. you should have got.

Yeah. Yeah. I was just looking for it and I I get hundreds of emails a day so they get buried sometimes. Um let me look and see if I can find it and I'll get it to Joe. And uh what's the what's the drop date that you have to have us agree? I've got to have this updated by June 30th. Okay. There's plenty of time. I don't want to rush anybody. Let's do this.

Let's do this. Let me uh get a copy to to to everyone and a copy to Joe and then we'll just put it on next month's our next our next meeting agenda which will be May the 12th and uh we we'll roll through you. No need I appreciate you coming and saying and this is totally my fault. I forgot I missed it somehow when I was talking to Olivia about getting you on. That's why I want to go ahead and bring you up since you was here. Uh but we'll do that and then we'll send the copies to you when it's approved. I appreciate it and then I absolutely no later than tomorrow I will send you some data. Okay.

And and I will forward it on to the magistrates. John, you do a wonderful job. I appreciate everything you do for Logan County. Uh but as soon as it comes through, we'll get it taken care of. Okay. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you, John. Thank you. And [clears throat] if everyone's okay, I have one more I want to bring up. Mayor Blake from Darville is here also. Mayor, would you come forward with She just wants to speak to the court for a matter of a few seconds. Morning, Mayor.

Um, first off, thank you for letting me speak today. Um, and thank you for when you got the grant from Parks that you did, you know, set aside some for each city and we finally got our project done. Yes. And I wish you all would come and see how many kids we had at that park. Thank you. Four nights a week and on Saturday morning, I've got three great grandchildren playing and the cars are parked everywhere. The next project we're going to have is buying more land because we don't have enough parking. Right. So, you want you want to give an update to the court about what that project was.

It's the concession stand for the park. The concession stand we had in the bathrooms off and so that was torn down by our people. Um, so that was no cost. And then having new concession stand built with got air and heat. Um, which is vital. I remember working those concession stands years ago and and it's so nice and the restrooms are so nice and the kids. It just does my heart good to think, you know, think that you all thought about helping us with that. And also um I wanted to ask for the I think you all give money each year to parks. Besides that, I'm asking for a lot of money and wearing different hats. So I asked for that today because we've got other projects that we need to go on on the park as well.

Mayor Blake has has uh given a letter uh asking for her contribution for the park. uh the the yearly contribution that we budget every year for that have Amanda and you know have we paid for the this fiscal year's or uh have we paid the part for this this fiscal year's contribution can you double check [laughter] I thought we'd set that up where the mayors didn't have to come ask for that but that was I kind of thought that no fine you I I just Yeah. Yeah. We We We've done that. Make it a reoccurring call.

That's right. You're always welcome. You're always welcome here. Uh what a man. Okay. So, this will be asking for the contribution for next year. The next budget. Next budget cycle. And how much was it? Okay. Okay. Now, the other thing that uh Mayor Blake has brought to me, and we'll go ahead and do that while we're here, I was going to hone on her letter. She brought a letter asking for the contribution for the Strawberry Festival, which is $200. So, I would need a motion to do a budget for to add that to our budget for city of second.

We uh to to pay the contribution and to make necessary adjustments. Is that okay? It's okay. I'd like to invite you all the strawberry. We love Monday and it's going to be a good thing. I try to do it every year. It's It's a good time. It really is. So, uh, yes. Okay. Switch hats to Brent Col. [laughter] Well, let's get this one taken care of first. Okay. I have a motion in a second for the contribution for uh the strawberry festival. $200. Um, if no discussion, roll call, please. Dort. Yes. Good. Yes. Wilco. Yes. Harper. Yes. Crawford.

Yes. Balden. Yes. Baker. Yes.

So now the next one you're going to be asking about is uh this is something that Jamie and I spoke about and I you have that letter. There you go. It's a letter for the uh 250th anniversary. Um, I don't remember if I've put any money in there for the budget for that. Uh, I I will have to look, but it will have to go on next year's budget. If we put any money in there, uh, we will look at it and and decide and we'll go with that cuz we still got a couple of months of budget talks and we'll see where we can do what we can do on that. Is that okay?

I can't give you an answer today, but but I will say that we will look at putting it in the budget for that. I think we put some money in there for for but I can't remember but I think it's for the Russellville. I will see what we can do for Daryl. If you know Grant, he just wanted to get Yep. I totally understand and and I appreciative of that. But yeah, I appreciate y'all. Thank you for all you do. It's some kind of thankless job. I understand and I appreciate it. Thank y'all. Come to every one of your time. Looks really nice where you've been working. Great. Pardon? All the things you've been doing look great. Thank you.

Thank you, Mayor Blake. Moving forward on the agenda that should be available to all the citiz.

Just a question. Uh Josh, how are we doing on the the medical thing? I just noticed, you know, that just keeps getting a little more a little more, a little more. It's $42,000, you know, the jail routine medical. Um, yes, we always pay a month ahead for for for each month. Uh, I thought a lot of these were like where

take time to be repriced. No, there's a bunch of them on here this month. I don't know if that's multiple months worth of people. It is cuz it's it's $42,854.15.

Yes, sir. It takes time. Once once that's turned in to be repriced, those prices are worked on. Our medical company helps us with that with the repricing and getting those bills from different facilities, different hospitals, different doctor's offices, and and works on those repricing numbers, but it takes it takes some time to get that get that back and get those turned in. 31 31 claims this month. Notice one of these honestly was dating in August of 24. Yes. Sometimes that's how long we take from the hospitals as well. But as soon as we get them, those are turned in.

Okay. Thank you. I was just, you know, wondering how that was running. Is there any other discussion? If not, roll call. Yes. Goodwin, yes. Wilco, yes. Harper, yes. Crawford, yes. Balden, yes. Baker, yes. Moving forward, treasures report. Good morning, court. Morning.

I do have a It'll be a lot of talking. It's not a whole lot of stuff, but it's a lot of words. Um, so the first thing that I need to do is the second reading and adoption of budget amendment 0262202105 amendment number two. This is to amend and unfudgeted receipts into the road fund 024503 federal reimbursement refund for 36,45211 solid waste fund 134510 state grants by 17,156.32 road fund 024727 reimbursements miscellaneous by 18,193.75 general fund 014733 3 insurance reimbursements by $7,23420. road fund O24733 insurance reimbursements by $7,45063 which will increase appropriation um line item 015015340 sheriff's maintenance maintenance vehicles by 7,23420 solid waste 135214468 [clears throat] illegal dump open dump ramp by 17,156 6.32 026105336 Road Equipment Contract Repairs 7,156.57 Road Font 026105443 Road Motor Vehicle Parts by 294.06 Road Fund O28033128 Contract Big Bridge Construction by 13,641.01 01 and road fund 029200999 contingent appropriation of $41,485.

Motion to approve. Second. Have a motion. Second. Any further discussion? Roll call, please. Davenport, yes. Goodwin, yes. Wilcott, yes. Harper, yes. Crawford, yes. Balden, yes. Baker, thank you for making that work.

Um, we also need to have the first reading of another budget amendment. It'll be 0262202.06, amendment number three. This will amend in unbudgeted receipts into the LGA fund 044529 LGA mineral tax by 28,995.39. It'll increase revenue code 014731 miscellaneous revenues by $55,695 which will increase expenditure code in the general fund 015135548 er Carpenter grant for search and rescue by $55,695 and LGA fund 049299 contingent appropriations by 28,995.39 Motion to approve the first reading.

Second. I have a motion in a second. Good job. Roll call. Dport. Yes. Good. Yes. Wil, yes. Parker, yes. Crawford, yes. Balden, yes. Baker, yes. And the next thing we need to get approved is a list of budget transfers. Make a motion to approve the budget transfers totaling $11,561.76. Second. I have a motion and a second. No discussion. Roll call. Davenport. Yes. Good. Yes. Wil, yes. Harper, yes. Crawford, [clears throat] yes. Balden, yes.

Baker, yes. And I do have three cash transfers today. We need to transfer $125,000 from the occupational net profits tax fund to the jail fund. Motion to approve. Second. I have a motion and a second from these transfers. No discussion. Roll call, please. Diver, yes. Yes. Wilcott, yes. Harper, yes. Crawford, yes. Yes. Balden, yes. Baker, yes. We need to transfer $25,000 from the occupational net profits tax fund to the LGA fund. So move. Second.

Motion is second. No discussion. Roll call. Diamond. Yes. Good. Yes. Wilcut. Yes. Harper. Yes. Crawford. Yes. Balden. Yes. Baker. Yes. And we need to transfer $75,000 from the occupational net profits tax fund to the 911 fund. Some moved. Second. Have a motion and a second. Roll call, please. Diamond, yes. Good. Yes. Wilcott, yes. Harper, yes. Crawford, yes. Balden, yes. Baker, yes. That's all I have for you. Thank you, Amanda.

Thank you, Amanda. Moving forward, road work request. District one. District one. Appreciate all the work y'all been doing. Pee-we clean up on the tree on tennis and sidelining [clears throat] and all the other stuff we spoke about. Continue maintenance. Thank you. Two.

I'm going to have to get mama to cook us lunch because we going to have we're going to be out on Dot Baron Plains for a little while showing you stuff. I [snorts] need to go to Dot and Francis Yates and Gatewood off of Sly uh and Baron Plains. So, I'll send you the pictures of the signs that have been I guess the either the wind or some I don't know what's hit them, but they've not been knocked down. [clears throat] And um then a couple that need to be added. I think that are some bad covers that people that I ran off into one and um and then uh just some other black top stuff that might need some repair. So, I'm get with you and we'll make a date.

I think you're three. Anyway, just what I've already shared. I mean, I I promised I would bring these up, but Markhamm Road and Ernest Russ was again shoulder work, leveling, grading. Uh, and then also any update on the signs, the Joe Smith Road sign, and I'll get I I'll talk to you more about that one just to make sure. I didn't know if our other 911 sign had got the spelling right. Okay. Four, continue maintenance. Thank you. He loves that. Five.

I just talked to you about uh uh no cemetery road where the gravel because of last night's rain on my way over here and I want them to hear me uh say maybe coal patch instead of gravel since it washes when we get the heavy rain. And I appreciate every time. Thank you. Six. Did we get the Dodson Lane Road replaced? Yeah, I'm pretty sure we did. Okay, your maintenance. Thank you for everything. We've heard all the requests. I need a motion to approve. Second and a second. Thank you all. Welcome. Yes. Good. Yes. Yes. Harper. Yes.

Crawford. Yes. Balden, yes. Baker. Yes. Moving forward, [snorts] elected official. Sheriff Strat, you have anything for us today? You do.

Good morning. Morning, sir.

So, we have an SRO that's going to resign at the end of the May at the end of the school year. uh his daughter is qualified for the Junior Olympics and is a bicyclist or something like that and so they are traveling a lot overseas to participate. So he's resigning for that to be able to do that more with her and his family. So uh but I do have a replacement already. He is a retired captain from the Franklin Police Department and he reached out to us when I posted the started posting the opening within 30 minutes. So what I would like to do is with court's approval of course is hire him to start May 4th so he can train under the current SRO and some of the other SRO as well. Um, I do have funds and salaries. I have a full-time open right now and I also have the part-time salary uh slot that's not field, but I would need court approval of doing that.

Will his salary be commensurate to the one leaving? Uh, yes. Yes. So, it's the same process. He's retired. Um, 15 years credit service if the board approves that. But I wanted to ask if I could do that first. So you're hiring him in as a road deputy. Then you'll move him to an SRO when that position comes open. That's how we need to do it that way. I think that' be the only way we can do it because we don't have We can't do it. You don't have the Yeah, we don't have an SRO position. So what is the other guy's last day like the 27th or um it's the 28th and the last day of school? I think it is.

22. 22nd. So he may [clears throat] leave a little bit before the end of the month, but he promised that since we had somebody in the court approved that he would stay on uh the last at least the last couple weeks to help with that transition. Uh, and that way he can learn some a little bit of the other schools, but then he can go and work with that SRO the last week or two to kind of get the traffic routine patterns, the you know, staff. I know they're having a new change of principle, but um, you know, it just kind of helps him fill in a little bit there. So, this is good. He's we're hiring what 3 4 weeks basically he's on the part-time role on the parttime slot.

Well, as long as it's I can put him in the fulltime slot that we have. We are going to fill that back into that. Are you looking at the We got position, right? I have the personnel asked me. I wanted to go over that part first before I presume to have a What did you put down for the uh May 4th is his start date? Yeah, but the position, what position do you have that? That was for SRO.

Yeah, that can't be SRO. We don't have an SRO position available. So, what do we do? You know what we have open, Tyler? Just a road road deputy or part time. So he's got two positions he could stick it in. But what is it? Is it the captain? Is it a road? Just road road deputy. Okay. So whatever that position is when you don't mark it is that Yeah. I mean, I hate to complicate it too much since it's,

you know, we're going we we're going from someone's already put their letter of resation in, right? So, you know, that they they're leaving. It's not like they're going to say psych. I'm saying, you know, so

No, no, he's legit. I mean, he uh struggled with it, but I mean, I think I don't know if he's back yet, but she she does a lot of events in Europe, so they actually went last week and to Europe and he was over there. So, we're having to split SRO's from school to school to kind of cover while he's off. So, he you know, so he again that would help with that as well. But he he's he's legitimately gone and I understand that that that's pretty good for him to expect to be a part of. So So it's only 3 4 weeks. Is that what you're

Yeah. Can can we come if Are we going to take a break before we start new business? Can we take a maybe We can the committee take five minutes to talk about it and then we can come back. Personnel. Yeah. Yeah. We'll talk about we'll do that between uh citizens participation and new business. Is that okay? All right. Uh, clerk Stacy Watkins, come forward, please. [clears throat]

Uh, first thing I have is the county clerk's claim for calculation motor vehicle and boat bills for 2026. And I always like to comment each year on vehicles, how many how many cards went out. This year it was 40,237 of them. Wow. I can remember there only being like 32 when I first started, you know, up here. Wow. So, we're we're growing. Make a motion to approve the county clerk's claim for calculation of motor vehicle and boat deals for 2026. Welled. Second. That was I have a motion and a second with no discussion. Roport. Yes.

Good. Yes. Loc, yes. Harper, yes. Crawford, yes. Holden, yes. Baker, yes.

And if y'all want, we can go over the election plan again. I mean, we're getting very close. Would y'all like for me to And it's in your in your [clears throat] I think it should have been scanned in for y'all. So, we're able to still request absentee ballots until May 5th. And that can be done by visiting www.govote.ky.gov. Of course, you can always call the office in order to return those. The Dropbox location is at our office. They need to be in by 6 PM on election day, which is May 19th. Um, they could also mail those back as well. And then we're going to move on. We'll have our inhouse excused voting, which means that you would come to the county clerk's office to do your voting if you have an excuse such as out of town on or have to work out of town all day and can't get away. Um, so we have that May 6th through May 13th. May 14th and through 16th is going to be our no excuse needed early voting out of the Lone County Extension Office 8:00 a.m. to 400 pm. So that's going to be a Thursday, Friday, and Saturday prior to the election. And then of course we have May 19th, election day, and you can vote at any location. Those are going to be at the Logan County Career and Technical Center, the Logan County Extension Office, Lewisburg School Gym, Advil School Gym, and Auburn School Gym. That's about it. I'll keep going over it until it's done.

No, that's great. 6 to 6. Yes, 6 to 6. I'll let you know that's correct. All right. Y'all need anything else from me? No. Great. Thank you, Stacy. Jaylor or Joshua Tumi. Josh, I realize I always call you Joshua. I hope that doesn't offend you. No sir. I just realized that most of being your name is Mama Gabian, right? Yes. [laughter] Yeah. You never know. Others just call me by my last name. Being former military and things is you just get used to that. I'm not I'm not going to do it unless I'm I'm not going to do it unless I'm mad at you. No. [laughter]

All right. Good morning. As of this morning, our our count we had 88 county uh holding two out of county, 67 state uh 39 on our state side for 158. And uh Mr. Swords was up earlier. I want to thank him and and work force development. I'm grateful. It's been a a process of planning uh finding instructors u all the different resources and agencies they utilize for the classes that we do for people to be able to come on a given day or a given week uh together. Um it's it's a lot of coordination. It's a lot of effort on his on his part and a lot of work and uh behind the scenes but uh but he made that happen. But this week we are uh we started this morning but we'll they'll the uh the individuals that have signed up for that are going to complete OSHA 10 training and they'll receive certification they they'll complete first aid CPR AED training and they'll receive certificates in all those through American Heart. Uh they will do a soft skills and communications course. They'll do a financial literacy course. Uh they will build resumes uh that will be completed all to get ready for a job fair and this time uh different from before funding available through some resources to do a second week of classes uh and all of them will be fork truck certified operator certified. So we will do that next week. So I'm excited about that. And then I sent everybody a message. I talked to Mr. Schwords. [clears throat] I did have that new uh that new they helped create that flyer for the job fair at the end of the boot camp that I I I put together and go

around to all the businesses trying to get HRs uh to to come and participate that are second chance friendly in our job fair. So, I know we've got some some court members that own their own business. I would like to extend that invite if you're available. We'd love to have you. I I promise you you'll be touched by it. Uh, and you'd be surprised at at some of these men men and women's resumes and and what skill sets they have. Um, and we're showing them how to utilize that toward the positive to again to change change their lives, find the best version of themselves, move the forward and not go back to the past. But I I I would like to invite you all to that. But again, uh, the job fair uh, May 14th and I I text everybody that fly. I can email that and bring some hard copies for next time. Uh our next pre-release class where we do those every other month is uh Friday, May 15th from 2:00 to 4:00 at our classroom or library as we call it at the jail. Uh and again that's uh they'll receive a folder and individuals from from roughly 20 agencies from medical to education to uh uh to housing, sober living uh all those resources are there to give a couple minute overview of what their agency has to offer. And then they'll receive that that folder at the end with pamphlets, brochures, business cards to reach out uh to get that help uh when when they're when they're once they're released.

That's Friday. What? That's Friday. Uh May 15th. May 15th. It's the third Friday of every other month from 2

for the pre-release. And then uh for for the ones of you that were able to participate, our revival, our uh spring revival went very well. We had at least 54 saved that week. It it it was fantastic. Uh I'm still working on that total number, but we had several different uh people we talked to, but it it was fantastic. And we will have a we we will have a uh a fall revival. I don't have the date yet, but in October cuz that's very important. Uh expanding religious services and you can't change the mind till you change the heart. Uh, and then if you would, uh, I don't know if they would want me to bring this up, but I ask that you keep the jail family, all of our staff in mind. U, we've had several staff members that's been hit hard over the last few weeks. Uh, our former programs assistant director is now our class D coordinator. She lost her mother. Uh, my one of my office assistants lost her brother. Uh, and then one of our that's also a part-time, she's fantastic, a city council member as well as a Logan aluminum employee, but a fantastic deputy that works part time. She lost her husband last week and that funeral is I [clears throat] ask that y'all keep uh keep uh our jail family in your prayers, please, cuz they've been hit hard over the past few weeks. But but I thank you.

Thank you. Thank you, sir. Moving forward to department heads. First up, uh, ECC. Ginger Lawrence, you have some updates for us. [clears throat] Hopefully some positive. Hope so. We just transfer $75,000 to you.

Well, right now we're doing um a lot of I guess you call it the grunt work for the phone system. We're doing everything, getting it ready. They've got they're building it. They're going to ship it in and we'll be installing it, which can't come any sooner. We need it. We need it now. We had a um a problem last Friday where the current phone system crashed and it was I was in panic mode. But just to let everybody know when our system goes down, we do have a plan in in intact. All the 911 calls go to KSP and they're calling us on our cell phones and we're dispatching calls. So calls are getting answered when the phone is down. It's just not the ideal situation. And once, oh, sorry. Once the once the radio system gets uh the work done that we're hoping gets done and we get a little further in this pro progress, might I say, we're hoping that our calls will be able to transfer to uh Todd County versus to KSP.

But we uh this week we're just doing a lot of busy work getting everything ready. And I'm excited but nervous at the same time because anytime we put in new equipment, it always makes me nervous. Do you have an end date for when those phones might be uh they're looking at probably they'll be in by the um they probably by the end of the first week of May for sure. Wow, good job. But we originally had thought they started out with March and then you know things started not being able to come in. But they've got everything built. It's in Knoxville. They're just ready to bring it here. So that's three days. Three days they'll be up. Really? You think?

No. The the first week of March of May. First week by the end. Oh, I thought you said first of May. Well, I wish I wish. All right. End of first week. It takes a little bit of time. Yeah. We're we're also working on some stuff with EPB to make things more efficient. And so it's just been a lot of different conference calls and trying to make sure everything is good to go. So that will be basically everything new and then it'll be time to start. You know, as soon as you put something in, something else has got to be replaced. But always

I do appreciate all the the work and all the uh money that's been put towards my department this year. You're worth it. We're trying. We want to be uh we want to be exactly where we need to be. One step closer. Thank you. Thank you. Uh archives grant updates. Denise shoulders.

Daily does the entertainment. So, I want to clarify and address an internet situation from last week. If you saw it, there was a post made about somebody stealing a historic marker. Didn't steal it. I picked it up because tourism office called me and said, "Hey, do you guys deal with these?" I said, "I know who does. Let me deal with it tomorrow." Following morning, Peewee from the road department called and said, "Hey, I got a call. There's a sign broken. It's down. What do we need to do? I said, I need pictures. I'll go get it. Got my pictures, picked up the sign, took the sign straight to the road barn. Then I went to the archives and I contacted the people at the state who actually deal with those. So, Mr. Jim Severs from the Kentucky Historical Society has responded to the email. Due to the damage the st the sign has sustained, that sign will be considered totaled. It will be picked up by the state road mark at some point and they will dispose of it. It will the the sign is the Reverend Valentine Cook sign. It is now on the list to be replaced repaired. However, it will take years for that to happen. The last one that was repa uh replaced was the Morton uh no molding station out in uh Shako. It took about 3 to [clears throat] 5 years for that to get back in place. They only have the funds to do about 12 in a year and the new signs take priority.

Okay. Can you leave the old one, no matter what condition it's in, can you leave it there? No. No. Because of the way it's broken. It there's each one of the signs has a bell and they're they're they're cast aluminum. Okay. So, it's all one piece and the bottom bell that sits on top of the post, it's snapped off right at the top of the bell. And so it was just leaning against the sign. You're gonna get more calls then. Somebody would eventually steal it like legitimately steal it. But like what you did?

Yeah. Like what I DID [laughter] [clears throat] in this case in a potential case they would probably try to recycle it there. There may be some sort of I don't know melt melting down or something. Right. So, just to put it out there to the court and to anybody who might have saw the drama or believe the lies, it's on Proctor Mill Road. The sign was not stolen. It was picked up and placed at the road. Okay. What caused the damage?

Well, my understanding is that someone may or may not have allowed their children or neighbor children to climb and hang on the sign, but I do not have proof of that. Um, that is just what was said to me. But those I mean those signs the majority of the signs that we have those historic signs have been up since the late '60s early '7s and they're cast aluminum. So it takes something pretty substantial to break [clears throat] one. Um, and this one stands in the middle of a yard.

I saw a video and the the final fall of it was the wind the wind took it. I don't know what happened with that. [clears throat] Yeah. I mean, it's a shame it takes that long for us to get a, you know, we want to remember our historical areas and our markers, and it's just a shame it takes that long, but it's out of our control. We don't we don't manage those. The I guess if there is any good part to it is that those signs are typically um I think in the past 2500 and up per sign. And usually you have to raise the money to have those repaired, replaced, whatever. And now um a few years ago the legis the general assembly um passed that they fund those so we just have to wait for the money to become available

through them through them and through the Kentucky Historical Society for that to be cool up the list. Okay. To be replaced. Well, I like that. Well, we appreciate you going out there and stealing the sign. [laughter] Does anybody know? So, it didn't line up on somebody's wall in their in their in their living room as a marker. But, right. Does anybody know this person? I was like, [laughter] she's a thief. Yeah. Like, I don't know anything. That's too funny. I I actually got the screenshot of it and sent it to the sheriff just in case his phone started blowing up or getting calls, he was ahead of it. So, we appreciate everybody keeping an outlook on our stuff, though.

Absolutely. If there's any more that are broken, we do need to know about them. Um, so that we can determine what is the extent of the damage and see what the state deems repable and what they deem totaled and need to be replaced. All right. Any questions? No. Thank you. I was going to comment out. Sorry I didn't make it to Miss L's uh recording. Well, hey. Okay. Just want to give shout out to her. Yeah. She's done a lot of great things. We'll do that next. All right. Um, emergency management. Rodney, do you guys have anything?

Oh, we appreciate it. Severe weather going through right now. They're calling for multiple rounds. We survived the first little no incidences or trees down or anything, but

they're doing another round today. They're saying about five to seven. It might be worse than what we had last night. Who really knows? Cuz we set up shelters last night. I don't think we excavated one of them, but we're carrying the sale from we're asking if any church or any organization would like to set up a shelter if they ever let emergency management know so we can report it to the state and get it out on the website so people don't to respond. So, but other than that, I want to bore you with the rest of the stuff we do. It's the boring stuff. This is the fun stuff. So,

is there any question? What's the requirement like for a shelter? Like if is there like a structural requirement that y'all have for the for the area room that store people in, you know, basically restrooms and necessities. Our church looked into that. Excuse me. I'm sorry. Am I correct? Our church looked into that, but because we've got windows all the way around the sides of that gathering room, it was said no because that would be just as dangerous. Right. Okay. That's what I was going to say. I think that's what I understood about our offer.

Yeah. They they you know golden rule is the center location, right? No one location. Well, thank you for being there for us. We are grateful. If there's anything we can do, I find myself a little bit more. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hey Terry, I believe your weather your rain dance actually finally worked. I appreciate that. The reports were anywhere from 410 to a little bit over an inch last night. So we we'll put it up on the screen. It's a rain danc video that

uh road supervisor Peewee, do you have anything for us, sir? All right, moving on. Uh, animal shelter, animal control. Eric, hello. Good morning.

Good morning. I just want to take a few minutes to clarify information some information that was that we put out last week after talking with the judge and Joe um about Southern Paws. Southern Paws has now become Southern Paws Friends of Logan County Shelter, also known as Southern Paws folks. Uh I just want to make sure everybody has that understanding what it is. Basically, they're keeping their same role, but now they're going to uh to their rescue work. They uh their focus is straightforward. Raising funds to support the needs of the shelter, advocating for the shelter and its mission within the community, and assisting with programs and resources that benefit the animals in our care. They are a separate independent nonprofit. There is no contract, no agreement or financial obligation between Logan County and Southern Paw folks. So, just want to make that clear. That's why we didn't have we had to come to the court to get approval because they're an advocacy group for us. They're not there's nothing that we do for them. Um uh just to be clear, this is not an exclusive to one organization since there is no contract. Um any rescue or nonprofit that wants to support the shelter, advocate for the animals, or help raise funds is more than welcome to do so. and we would definitely take the money to help with the shelter. Uh I also want to be transparent obviously uh my wife serves on the board of cells folks and my daughter is the president. Because of that I understand the importance of maintaining clear separation of operating with a high level of transparency and that is something we take serious that I take seriously that um we'll be 100% transparent of everything that's going on. We have I have been and I know that they they have been um from a funding standpoint. The county

previously contracted with the rescue to operate the shelter at a lower cost. Today we since we took it over it's obviously the cost has gone higher for the county by bringing in a fringe of organization. Um what that's going to help do is allow us to start raising money, getting um donations, and then having that being taxed right off to help for the needs of the shelter, you know, as the projects we're looking to do. And we're trying to get grants for, you know, upgrading the shel the uh kennels and getting all that paid for instead of having taking county money and taking taxpayer dollars. We're trying to raise funds and trying to get the money other, you know, outside of taking money from obviously from the budget. Um the goal obviously is to um improve the care working, reduce long-term costs, and ease the burden on the lowcoming taxpayers. Um just from an operational standpoint, over the past two years, we have focused heavily on improving efficiency and outcomes. We have reduced our average dog population from over 60 dogs down to under 40. We're actually at 34 today. Um, and that is not due to reduced intake. Um, it is the result of moving animals through our system more efficiently and effectively. Our average length of stay has gone from over 60 days to 130 days. That means better outcomes for the animals and more capacity to serve the county when new animals come in. Um, I'm proud of the progress the team has made and the culture we have built. Um the shelter is doing great things and having the addition of Southern Paws folks to help us raise money into uh healthy animals. Um I'm proud of that fact that we that we've grown into what we've got what we've gotten into in our partners with Butler County with um with Warren

County. Uh they've been great helps to us. So on top of all that, we've we've spread out and we've worked with a bunch of different shelters. Uh and then lastly, if there any if there's ever any questions about the operation of the shelter, I'm always available to answer them. Um I won't get into a Facebook fight with anybody, uh I will answer them directly and if they have any other questions, they can obviously come talk to me personally or by phone. Um but I do welcome anyone to come see the work that is being done firsthand. We're very proud of what we've got what we've done there and we're uh happy to continue what we're doing. But I just want to clear everything up so there's no confusion and so everybody's on the same page and know it and transparent as as possible.

Yeah. At the end of the day, you know, the goal is, you know, we have you will always have a population problem with with stray animals. And the goal is to in the most humane way control that population by adoptions, by raising the money, by getting them to families, by getting them to other areas. And uh and it's also the goal is also to have the least burden on taxpayers while doing those good things. Um [clears throat] at the end of the day, I mean um I can't blame for I can't blame the public this taxpayer, you know, this office of taxpayer fund. I don't blame them for wanting an explanation or or being curious. They have that right. And I think uh but overall, I think you've done great. And I think uh whoever you're working with has done great. And I think that um I appreciate you being transparent about it and and uh that's our job is to let everybody know what's going on. And uh but at the end of the day, I think uh I think it's great what you're doing. I think you're moving these animals. uh we're no kill level, you know. I mean, it's great and uh I do appreciate you being transparent about it and and and letting the public know and uh [clears throat] 100%. Yeah, that I mean and like I said, it is family, so I get people understanding that it but with that being said too, we're even more cognizant of being transparent and being above board and being, you know, 100% to to make sure that we're doing the things right. As far as ethics go, you know, with the issues, Joe and and Phil have dealt with those and they've looked at everything and have confirmed that there should be no ethics problem there. So,

I mean, my understanding is this is a group independent of us that wants to use their resources to benefit us. I he's disclosed it. If you all don't have an issue with it, I don't see an issue with it, but quite frankly, uh, take the rescue stuff aside. I mean, if they wanted to raise funds and then donate them to us, I don't know that we would be able to stop them. That was kind of my view of it. Uh and I recognize that people have u issues with the family connection, but um who else would do it? I mean, other than somebody that loves Eric and he loves this shelter. Uh, and you know, my view of it was, uh, as long as we're not getting into a partnership, we don't have to micromanage it nearly as much. You know, we had a long-standing prior relationship and those things got murky because we did intertwine so much. And we had some power, but we didn't have power in other situations. But here, they're totally independent of us just giving stuff to us. So, I didn't see an issue with And you made a on your Facebook post you made I I think it's worth mentioning that you said your daughter takes no no salary, no compensation and she works for Spark outside of doing this to to pay her bills.

So So thank her for being being that kind of a servant to the and his wife has two years right. That's it. Thank y'all. Thank you. Thank you Eric. Uh, solid waste, Nathan. Good morning, sir.

Good morning suite. Also, uh, just as it was mentioned, uh, I wanted to say for Eric Eric, she helped us out at the recycling center over the weekend with some stuff that we need help with. I just want to give a shout out to him real quick on that. U, just a couple things I wanted to mention. Uh, we do have our county electronic recycling day, our East Scrap Day coming up before the next court, May 8th. It's a Friday 9 to1 and I know it's in the announcements but I just wanted to put that out. It's in the recycling center 12:30 Morgantown Road. Everything is free except TVs and monitors which are $10. It's the same as it's been in prior years. And most items with a plug are taken. Large appliances aren't, but most items with a plug are taken. We don't take tires. I get that question sometimes. We do have a county tire coming up as the plan is due to funding in July. July. [clears throat] That's pretty much what I have. All right.

That That's it. I had mentioned to you I had a question. Yes, ma'am. A lot of people have been calling because they get in the line to go to the um free dump day. Okay.

And they're seeing out of state, they're seeing all kinds of licenses. And the question has been put to me, are we not checking that? And I said, now here's the problem. They get paid by the pound for taking these things. Is that not true? I want to be telling them the exact truth. And I said, "We want the I'm talking about our people up at uh Scott Waste." I said, "We want them to continue to offer this. We don't want local dumps that we have to clean up. And if this is a way to keep that from happening, then it's open to the public in Logan County." And they said, "But we are all the way out 6880 for over an hour waiting to get in there behind cars and vehicles." I said, "But you don't know that those cars and vehicles aren't borrowed by someone in Logan County." And I said, "I don't it will be a it's already hours long wait out and it's not pretty to see all these um garbage setups all along 6880 on those days. However, to put someone out there taking license uh from the people that are driving would just delay it more. Now, if you have something more that can make that easier for me, I would be grateful.

I don't know that we can do anything a whole lot easier than what we're doing, unfortunately. They do check those sometimes, but yeah, I can't say that they're going to check it every time. And I know that we we've talked about this. There's nothing necessarily that would keep them from having other people come in on that day, too. There's nothing in the contract that would say, "Hey, if we want to take people from Tennessee and charge them on that day, then there's nothing we can really do about that." So, it is unfortunate the lines are long. Of course, it's spring every that's usually the busiest time for all this. Sometimes the lines are not that bad. Uh I try to tell folks, you know, you go at the very beginning, it will be it will be rough sometimes if you go right at 8 at 7:30 they're lining up. Yeah. So, and ends up all the way out poorly.

What I can do is I can talk to my contact there and she works those days sometimes. I will I will ask her if there's anything else that that could be done, but at this point I I don't know what it could be. Well, we want Scott Ways to continue to offer it. So, we won't have these illegal dunks. And I think the end result's better than the alternative. Yes, ma'am. However, you know, I I promised I would bring that up and so I just did. You don't have to talk to me after court because I just did it here. I'll look into it and I'll see what I can I'll get back with what we talked about. Thank you very much. I said that you're doing a good job. Thank you. Thank you.

And I realize there's complaints. We realize that folks have to wait and sometimes it's just one of those things especially this time of year, but I'll get back with you. All right. It is free service. Oh, it is. They just don't like the fact that they are seeing other states and they're saying, "What is this?" It's just something that Yeah. But there are people in line paying. Yeah. You know. Yeah. There's the dumps opened and people can go business. So, you know, we're a business and we can take our trash there. We pay. We don't ever do it. But not everybody is.

We don't We don't never do it because it's not worth the wait. But if we were in a pickle and needed to empty a trailer, we get in line, we go through and you know, we have to pay. I mean, I mean, it's not even an option for us. I mean, they don't like motion us through. We have they know we're bald and Ruben County and you know, trucks clearly say that we go in and pay. Well, see that that's upfront and nobody would find fault with that. The problem is is when they line up and they see these out of state vehicles and they think, "What's this?" And then nobody's checking them. are watching. Nobody's checking them. And I think, well, I will bring it up. And so I did. We're done. I don't want to hold everybody. That's it.

Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Moving on to judges announcements. I have several announcements here. Uh run through as quick as I possibly can. Uh May the 2nd is the countywide outdoor warning system. uh May the 2nd at noon in the event of inclement weather the test will be rescheduled. I've seen where someone heard that and was trying to figure out what was going on the other day and thanks for people who pay attention to that. They were able to tell them exactly what it is. Also, May the 2nd, that's this Saturday beginning at 200 p.m. for those uh is a Range Fishing Game Club and it starts at 2 1283 Range Lake Road in Lewisburg. Uh there's a membership drive, meet and greet, uh food, drink, uh live auction items, and uh music by Nick and DD Reed. Uh May the 3rd, Auburn Fire Department is holding their annual meeting from 2 to 4 at the fire hall located at 114 East Main Street in Auburn. Uh come enjoy light refreshments, desserts. Uh community members are welcome to attend the meeting uh for communitywide updates and officer elections. Uh door prizes, including a smart TV, fire blankets, and extinguishers will be given away. Uh Nathan mentioned the electronics and waste recycling event. That's May the 8th, so I'm not going to go any further on that. [clears throat] May the 9th, the Derville South Logan Chamber of Commerce uh is having their auto and truck show at the Derville Square from 12 to 3. Um several different things there. Uh May the 9th also is Logan Countyy's free dump day. Uh scheduled for May the 9th, Logan County residents can dispose of items in transfer station at 55 Pleasant View Drive in Auburn. Uh

talk to Nathan if you need more information about that or Miss Anne, she knows about it. Now, uh May the 9th is at Darville South Logan Chamber of Commerce invites everyone for the uh square for worship on the square. May the 9th at 4:30. Special guest includes Steve Lad and Good News Edition quartet, the Living Work Church Worship Team. Free hamburgers, hot dogs will be given away. Last thing I have is May the 9th through the 16th is a 78th annual Strawberry Festival on the Darl Square. There is more information to come on that. All right, moving forward in our agenda. That takes care of judges announcements. Uh citizens participation. Anyone that would like to come forward and speak to the the court, now is your time. Please come forward, state your name and the area or your addresses that you live on.

All right. My name is Dale West. I think you know me. Yes, sir. Well, I have a problem. I had two farms out in the South Union area. Yes, sir. And one of them has a wedding venue right in front of the family house.

Okay. And this is just a drunken barn every weekend is what it is. And I I've done talked to everybody in the state about it. I can everybody keep saying there's nothing can be done. But I believe there is something can be done. I mean the houses is within 200 ft of the bomb. And I've talked to the sheriff about it. And it's on a one- lane road 6/10 of a mile off the main highway. And they're urinating in front of the the kids in the house. They're throwing their shot glasses in front of the house. Everything. And I mean, I hate to say it, but there's a deputy that's working guard duty out there to make sure my kid stays straight, you know, and he's not saying he ain't that. I mean, every weekend there's a bunch of drunks leaving the place. And he's not saying that he's not worried about the drunks leaving the place, you know. That's not his job. His job is to make sure we're not making noise and causing trouble. And I believe something can be done about it. The state representative says there state law says they can do it. It's called a a venue entertainment venue, but it's I mean I find this with Miss Crawford come out there Saturday night. She knows. And and you know how it was some uh wasn't some bad Saturday night. in the middle of night getting married be love but they were still getting drunk in the park and they started on Thursday now the wedding wasn't but a Saturday night and a couple of weeks ago they had a party and the sheriff's department was called out there over my kid making a noise with a cow we call or something well because the sheriff department showed up [clears throat] there were five vehicles left in the parking lot the next morning because they were probably drunk and you they were afraid the sheriff was going to

kill them. But there's got to be something to be done. State law or not, y'all. There was a wedding menu in lower green was shut down because the residents didn't want certain the difference between Warren County and Logan County is Warren County has planning and zoning. To correct that, Logan County does not have planning and zoning. We don't have that. They they've opened a business. They met every requirement for a business in Logan County about the alcohol stuff. Well, Joe, you care to help me on this one? Cuz we've had this discussion before. Um,

so somebody's going to get, you know, somebody going to get sued later. I mean, you got people coming from all over the county that's not familiar with that role. They get drunk. I I would say in terms of getting sued, you might have civil remedies that you could pursue through a private attorney. So, I think the problem could be here that you're asking the government to handle the issue and without planning and zoning, there's nothing that would prevent them from doing this that that I've ever been presented with. You also were having law enforcement officers out there. So, if there was indeed a crime being committed, even if he's working there privately, he would have an obligation to step in on that. So drinking within

he knows is going on. I I can't I can't deal with what you perceive he believes the issue that he what he knows. And but you mean you can't pass some kind of you know within so many ft of somebody's house or something? I think it would probably be problematic to do that since the venue would be grandfathered in for the fact that it exists prior to

Are you going to just speak over me? I would say planning and zoning would be the best way to address this. It prevents different types of properties from intermingling and that's something that's been discussed a lot. But on the whole, people want the independence to do what they want with it. But again, if you feel like you're being wronged, you have your your rights to civil remedies. It just would not go before this court or a criminal court. So, you must be the county attorney. I I am. Yeah. You don't want to talk to me. I can't give you legal advice on a matter. That's I wouldn't ask for legal advice. That's why people talk to the county attorney.

Mr. I ain't got buddy. I I can hire a lawyer. We'll do something about it. Listen, every person that needs something that they hope the county can help with should always come and talk about it. That's what I've been doing. I've been I've been on the phone for the last two months and I went out talking to the you my lake. I don't I don't remember him being out there. He said he knows. Well, that was that was years ago when I worked for Logan Telephone. I was out in that area. That's the only time you and I ever had any interaction till you called me the other day and I told you everything that we just told you today.

Well, I'm trying. That's all I can. But I did go out there and I stayed till 11:00 and listened. So, what I'm saying is you're not doing the wrong thing by coming to court and asking for help. People on this court are listening. People in the public are listening. But I said I just can't understand why you can't do something about that. I mean, I really can't. What What do you want us to do? Shut him down. Can't go within 200 ft of the house. I mean, it's already established, sir. You just started last year and it ain't like it's been there for So, you just want him just to throw everything, all the money he's invested in, the whole thing. Just throw it away and just walk away from it.

Well, what do you want me to My asking you what what your I'm asking you, sir. What? She can't she can't do it. Every s I mean this but a couple of weeks ago they was off on a trip. They come back 9:00 to normal at 10:00. Get back to the house. All the drunk drivers come down one lane road. [clears throat] Well, I also know that they have uh in their their contract they have shut things down at what 10:00 I think is our contract. Look at their thing. It says 11:00.

Okay. 11:00. My apologies. I knew it was earlier than others. There's a 7-year-old and a 9year-old live back here. They can't even uh they can't even watch TV. The windows just rap all the time. The music is that loud. You can't do nothing about that. I

I've never been back there to a venue. I've never been back there one time. I can't say I can't say that. But uh you know, I was just looking for what your thoughts were, what you was expecting us to do, what you expect this, uh business owner to do. Now it ain't like he I mean matter of fact I called the BBA guy about he didn't know nobody seemed to know nothing about it you know but he had a lawyer said to my kid nasty letter saying you better not be making no noise at that place and the deputy asked me one time what my son-in-law was doing behind a house cutting a tree up while they was having a wedding you know something just crazy.

You look like you got the right to cut a tree whenever you want to. Right. Right. But he's a ras every weekend. I don't know about that. You can't call it one way and then call it another. Strickler or something like that. They got the right to have a letter saying there not be no noise coming from from that property. Well, I haven't seen the lawyer. I haven't seen anything about it. But as as our attorney has uh said, it's you've got more of a civil than than anything we can do here. That's what I have to do.

All right. Thank you, Mr. West. Anyone else like to speak? Now's your time. If no one, let's take about 10 minutes and give the personnel committee a chance to meet and come back with their recommendations.

Welcome back everyone. Uh before we move on to new business, let's revisit the sheriff's SRO request. [clears throat] You signed off on that. I signed up on that. We're good. Um yeah, we talked as committee and also talked to Joe and you know, we don't want to complicate this. I mean, I think it's just like any job, a person needs to be on the job training for a couple weeks or so to It's unique. I mean, you unique situation. Yeah. So, and you've got the money in your budget. I mean, I think I just I would like for us just do a temporary overlap,

allow a temporary overlap as a court, and then as pending as long as this person's LA, he's already put his resignation in his last days, the last day of school, which is May 22nd. And uh you know, we vote to to bring him in as a road deputy. We got to come back and vote again to bring him in as a SRO. just it's just complication for something that's just temporary, right? Yes. And that's the only reason it's a unique situation. I uh uh so I put that in form a motion to you know didn't uh

I would say create a temporary position um to expire on what date? May 22nd. May May 22nd. I don't know if we can create can we create a temporary position without without two agreements or something or without an amendment that's amendment. I mean we're essentially doing that either way or so I think you could just say you're going to allow him to utilize his open position as a temporary SRO spot until May 22nd. Okay. You got that? Yeah. court. So basically to hire a part-time person, not unless it's amended according to

Yeah. He that that'll lock that position. You won't be able to hire that that after May 22. That deputy position till after May 22nd. So yes, um during all that talking, I never went and looked at the brown. Wow, that's impressive. People go to the beach with that girl. He will be a um Kentucky retirees. So,

okay. I'll make a motion for the personal action request for Dell Adams uh with his the uh effective hire date May 4th, 2026 and salary schedule LC-SO1S6 with 15 years credit experience as a Kentucky retiree uh with a unique situation to to uh temporarily lock one of the position the road deputy positions for the sheriff. until May 22nd when uh Ben Cruel's last day is and then this person will be the permanent replacement for the position. Second.

I have a motion and a second. Thank you. Is there any other discussion? If not, roll call. Davenport, yes. Good. Yes. Wilcott, yes. Harper, yes. Crawford, yes. Balden, yes. Baker, yes. Thank you very much. All right. Moving forward into new business off Cave Springs Road.

Approve the county road a cooperative program agreement for fiscal year 2627. Before you agree on that, the number is 1,579,16944. The disappointing part of that is last year's agreement was 1,925,67123. That is $346,51.79 difference. Yes. So, just wanting everyone to be understand that and be on notice on that.

How much less? $346,51.79 to the penny. To the penny. Good for you. Make a motion to approve the county road cooperative program agreement for fiscal year 267. Are they going to be able and they I say the road department they going to be able to divide that up? I think so. [clears throat] We really don't have it. We really don't have a choice. We'll have to just do with what we've been given. Um 50,000 less.

Yeah. This is where I would encourage you to reach out to your representatives and your your representatives and tell them how how much this actually hurts Logan County. Uh it's not just Logan County, it's all counties getting affected by this decrease. Um it's it's a lot to take in right now. Uh, so just want to make everybody aware of that. Thank you. I have a motion and I have a second. If no further discussion 300, we didn't get a I thought I'm sorry. I thought we had a second. My apologies. Second. I have a second now. Any further discussion? Roll call. Davenport.

Yes. Goodwin? Yes. Wilut? Yes. Harvard? Yes. Crawford? Yes. Poland? Yes. Yes. Item number two, approve the agreement with the Kentucky Department of Agriculture, Division of Environmental Services for the use of the mosquito control products and equipment. So move second. I have a motion and a second. I think that towards the end of this month is when we will actually be able to pick that piece of equipment up. we know it needs, but we had our early spring that's now turning back into fall by the end of the week by the way. So, um anyway, with that being said, uh with no discussion, roll call. Diamond,

yes. Goodman, yes. Yes. Harper, yes. Crawford, yes. Poland, yes. Baker, yes. Number three, acknowledge the receipt of the Logan County Fiscal Court budget for fiscal year 2627. Motion to acknowledge. Second. We have a motion and a second. Roll call. Stavenport. Yes. Goodwin, yes. Wilco, yes. Harper, yes. Crawford, yes. Roland, yes. Baker,

yes. Number four, set the monthly compensation for of elected officers and their deputies and assistants to be paid through the budget for the new term. Corner, deputy corner, magistrate, deputy judge, finance officer, county attorney, and assistant county attorney. You have those on your drive to ask a question. And I just I just honestly just for educational purposes I know statement here about increase on the attorney for workload. Can you can you just maybe address that a little bit just for

Yeah, it actually left a little bit out. I think it was the same form we used last year. Uh it more relates to uh since the last time you all set my salary and you only set it once every four years. Um we added the responsibility of the code enforcement stuff on that and that is uh something that is picking up. Um we did not address it last year with Elizabeth's uh seeing that that was going to be an increase because we were going to wait and see. Um, and so basically just looking at a I think it was about 25 2,600 uh dollars over what the cost of living increase would be for me and I think it was a about 3500 or so for her. Uh because we are having to stay later on these days. Um, and I'll just say from the last one I went to, it is definitely going to pick up um, in the next four years. And so trying to look at something would be reasonable uh, to account for that. Um, Nathan, last time we didn't have any cases to present, but um, it looks like we might have 8 to 10 hearings next month if people continue to do those. So that would be the increase in the workload. Uh I would say just knowing uh what people make in my position from the counties across the state uh it would still be uh fairly in line or under a lot of counties of a similar size uh and workload. So is there any other questions? I have two there. We actually have two that has to be done, two uh motions for this. One is for the elected officials annual salaries for magistrates, county

attorney and corner. And then the the others I'll make a motion to approve the set elected officials annual salaries from districts county attorney corner. Second. I have a motion and a second. Is there any other questions? Not. Roll call. Savort? Yes. [clears throat] Goodwin? Yes. Wilcott? Yes. Harper? Yes. Crawford? Yes. Holden? Yes. Baker?

Yes. The second motion would be approved to approve the elected officials, deputies and assistants annual salaries. That would be the deputy judge, executive/ finance officer, deputy corner and assistant county attorney uh with the new terms beginning January of 2027. Make a motion to approve this to set the elected officials deputy assistance annual salaries for deputy judge executive financial off finance officer deputy corners and assistant county attorney attorney for the new term for January 22nd.

Second. I have a motion and a second. Is there any other discussion? If not, I assume these um these salaries are subject to the uh cost of living increases we give every year. I mean, I knew it wasn't part of the motion, but but but it also doesn't take effect till January of 2027 also. Absolutely. But they we when we give a cost of living, it applies to these Yes. folks's base salary. Okay. Yes. Yes, sir. And just one other clarifying thing, the part-time deputy corner, is that per individual or is that split amongst however how many partuters? Good question.

We have we have a deputy, a chief deputy, a regular deputy, and a part-time deputy. So, and we had more than one part-time deputy in the past. We did have more than one part time, but then we changed it to deputy corner and then had a part-time deputy corner. So, just three corner and two other people is all there is for now. Deputy and then part time. We have the corner, the chief deputy corner and then the deputy corner and a parttime deputy. So, there's a total of four.

Oh, sorry. I didn't I'm sorry. I didn't Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I think the request was made um corner was going to move it from another portion of his budget to pay for it. So, it's not going to be any extra cost to the to the Oh, to the whole thing. Yeah. Okay. Right. Is that right? Thank you. I was counting three. Is it I think then he's he's moving that whatever the difference is from another. Yeah. He's moving from another line item over. So, it's really not costing us that'll be in next year's budget. Yes. Okay. All right. I have a motion to second. Is there any other discussion? If not, roll call.

Davenport, yes. Yes. Ro, yes. Harper, yes. Crawford, yes. Balden, yes. Baker, yes. I'll just thank you all for hearing me out on mine. I appreciate it. No, I just I would I want to hear that because I support Well, I mean it's it's good to put it out there. So you last time the court

uh did take uh very good care of me because we had kind of learned that I had been behind the entire first three terms and so uh I I appreciated that and I wouldn't have come with anything else but for kind of that added dimension of the office. Item number five, acknowledge the receipt of the Mud River Watershed Conservancy Conservancy District's budget and advail tax rate for fiscal year 2627. That was a mouthful. So acknowledged. Second. An acknowledgement and a second. Roco Davenport. Yes. Goodwin. Yes. Wilcott.

Yes. Harper. Yes, Crawford. Yes, Bolan. Yes, Baker. Yes. Item number six, approve to advertise for bids for the emergency medical services for fiscal year 2627.

Motion to approve. Second. I have a motion to to approve for advertisement and a second. Any further discussion?

Judge, I I want just to ask this question. And and this doesn't apply just to ambulance care. It's sort of uh Thomas and I was having a conversation the other day about you know annual bids and whatnot. But specifically to ambulance how how will we determine I guess our evaluation process of that? I mean I know it's had a call this morning you know with concern about the service that we currently have. I'm not, you know, I know our emergency personnel people probably have way more understanding and incidences, you know, to to sort of evaluate that, but uh I know the [snorts] caller, you know, predominantly was suggesting, you know, that it shouldn't be solely about cost obviously.

Agree. And uh I guess I just wanted to at least share I hope that we have some sort of evaluation process if we get more than one bid, you know. Agreed. That you know it's not just well they're they're the cheapest, you know. Yeah, we did that on one of the last things we did. We did a bid matrix and we graded it based on like five different areas. One cost, you know, needs to have the most weight in my opinion. And I guess is our does our advertisement stipulate out what our expectations are or is it just a blanket? You give us a proposal.

It's pretty much just a blanket to be honest. Um and and I guess I say that cuz that makes me a little concerned about how we, you know, truly get the apples and apples to where we know what we're looking at. you know that that it it's going to mean x number of manpower always in the county or x number of trucks always. I don't know. I I'm really speaking way over my head cuz I don't know that business. But you may be following my concern.

I I do. Um you know when the contract is wrote that says that we'll have two two ambulances every round clock basically. Um and I have to I have to read through it. I mean, I see so many of these contracts, hard to tell everything on it, and I would expect every one of them to follow that procedure. Uh, we I've been asking John Holder for reports, and he's been giving them to me, his run reports and and such, and I'm looking at those, too, uh, to know. Now, as far as your evaluation of current, you know, I'm pretty much in the public's what the public brings to me is all I hear. you know, I I'm I'm hearing from from different departments, you know, things that the ambulance service is doing. Unfortunately, I'm hearing wrong more than I am right. I occasionally hear the rights, but for the most part, I'm getting the the the negative comments and that's usually one phone call and I get an explanation of what was going on. Um, unfortunately we we only have only contract for two ambulances. And so when something happens late at night, we have to call out from other counties or other ambulance services we have agreements with. Uh, you know, if those two are busy, unfortunately, sometimes we have to do that. We don't like doing that. But to add a third ambulance, I just don't think would be I just don't know if if we'd be willing to to swallow that pill. I'll just say too, I mean that we've never gotten a competitive bid yet. Maybe we do this year and I think if you were, you could do what uh Tyler said. UM AND YEAH, we still got to have the best bid and price has to be a big part of that, but doesn't always mean the best bid. Um, so it might be something that if we find that we've got competition this year that you do a more uh detailed one, but

I would honestly be a little afraid that um if you change it too much, you might get a higher bid and still only get one provider. So, but you could always give them the option to give alternates for a third ambulance. But

yeah, I mean that that's always an option. I guess what I'm really getting at is I'd really like to sort of see any any sort of minimum expectations like the metrics in essence but you know that we clearly say we want that in the proposal so that we can at least have a baseline uh for that evaluation. Obviously, we have word of mouth. We have track records and we have feedback from our emergency personnel. But obviously, you know, just the I I've got I don't witness it firsthand, but honestly, I'm just sharing the concern that was brought to me. So,

well, and I and I 100% understand that when you call and you you expect an ambulance to be there, and I do understand that. The unfortunate side of it is is it can't always get there. Logan County is a big county. It can't always get there as quick as we want to as far as their part of their bid packet. It wouldn't hurt if there is more than one vineyard. Like we I don't know that we've had a more than one and I don't know how many years we've had the one response to it. I've never seen I've only seen one. Yeah,

we had in the early years we we had a company from Ohio and one from Indiana and they bid several years in a row until they finally just quit betting. But it's probably been at least 5 years since we've had them. I think that might have been your first term. Might be that far. I don't I don't remember since 2012. We could put in there. We have a summary from EOC of how many calls we have every year. How many,

you know, we we we can we can do that. But I I think honestly that if we do get more than one bid for this that we need to put a group of you guys together to help evaluate that. I mean, I I I appreciate your confidence in me sometimes, but sometimes it makes it really hard for me to be the one making that decision. Well, it wouldn't hurt to put that metrics together already. I think it's fair to have that. I agree. Prior to opening the bids agree uh so nobody can call that, hey, you're building that metric to favor one vendor. Yeah, I I definitely do not want that to come out.

You can put that together in anticipation that you are getting more than one bid and um that way if we do then you got something to start working on. Yeah. And some and you can have pre- bid meetings too. You can have it to where anyone that might be interested in bidding can come. We might do like a Yeah. pre- bid meeting and and this is our call volume and this is the response times you know and this is our expectations of you know like you said there's some metrics there that we So we own the two ambulances that are that are on call 24/7.

We actually own we own I think six. So why don't we have three ambulances just for the manpower personnel? Yeah, we we we may pay for the ambulances, but they're paying for the personnel and just having the personnel available is where So in our contract, it says to staff two ambulances to enforce that. Correct. They have two ambulances, a day truck and then on call.

Yeah. Yeah, we have the on call. The day truck is one that that uh comare at this moment has taken pretty much on themselves. Correct. Yeah. And uh hey, as I said, if someone wants to help me put this together, I'm welcome the assistance on this because I don't I definitely don't want to put something in there that isn't needed or I don't want to leave something out that is needed. So, anyone that's wanting to volunteer to help me put this together, I or any three of you that want to take it, I would gladly gladly hand it over to you.

Make us two ambulances around the clock. That's three shifts. You know, that's what we're getting right now. and then one on call. So it's four four staff members I guess per shift, right? We have two embassies every available all time. So it's potentially 12 12 staff members they got to have to do around the clock I assume. So, but you know, like I said, we put it out for bid and I understand what Chris is saying about maybe some some of the expectations if if first we got to identify what problems that we we think we have that we want to address with new contract whether whether it's the current person gets it or the new person. If we we have a repetitive problem that we want to address, we need we can address that as part of a metric. And if the problem is is response time, then you know we need to put in there what our expectations is on response time. So I don't know how you do that. I mean, you know, if you have if you have a bad night, you you know, if you had five, you know, ambulances and there was things going on everywhere. I mean, there could be a time, you know. I don't know. I would say if you're going to use response time, I mean obviously there's no way you can contract to enforce that, but you could use that as a basis to terminate the contract if there were sufficient enough

instances instances to give you all that discretion to do that. And you've got Ginger who knows when the call is put out and knows when the call is returned. So, not saying you do that, but that would be the enforcement mechanism for Has there been a lot of requests for a third truck? I I've not had one. Has anybody else? I I I've got one right now. Somebody's watching and texting me. It's like, you need a third truck. But that was first time that's ever been requested.

I've heard it from a few people, but like I said, the cost allocated with a third truck, you know, is is is big big pill to swallow there. and and I've actually asked John Holder to to give us a an estimate of what he thought a third truck would cost. And uh that was a couple weeks ago and I haven't seen anything since. So, and I'll also say does he still have u that kind of floating truck. So, you might actually contract for a third truck and not get that much more service than you're already getting because they are providing their own because they service more than just us in this area. Yeah, that's right.

Requiring three three trucks or three amplites to be every shift, that that's two more staff members per shift, right? So, that's six plus another truck. Plus another truck. So that's six more employees. I mean that could potentially be $300,000 more dollars a year if if the whole package for an employee was 50,000 is doing it for easy, you know, would potentially be $300,000 a year. But but if we're having response problems, if we're having, you know, multiple times when there is issues to where we can't get someone picked up because we don't have enough ammunition, we can't

we can't uh let people's lives be in danger. So, but we need that data. We need to know if you know if there are times if there has been some a lot of instances or you know any instance to where someone has not been picked up by an ambulance because we didn't have enough ambulances

and and the big problem I think is is that is such a floating mark that you never really know when you're going to need that third ambulance. You know, you could say third ambulance floating around, but you never know when you're really going to need it unless you're planning on staffing that 24/7 a third ambulance. You know, it can get very costly real quick. Not to get too far into the weeds, but I I wonder could you do Ginger a list of ambulance runs and see if the most come I would assume they come on the weekends because most of the time people are at more likely to be at home sleeping or at school during the uh weekdays. So that could be a middle ground if we could figure out if there are days statistically that we have more runs like the weekends we ask for that as an option.

I can kind of look and see. And of course you've also got to think about the fact that just about everybody who's brought in to Logan a lot of them are transferred out. Yeah.

So, I mean, then we've got another run transferring a patient to Bowling Green or Nashville, which ties up the ambulance, which I hate to speak out of turn with John not being here, but then you've got an ambulance that's tied up in Bowling Green so it can get back. And I mean, and then then if the other ambulance takes an emergency call, that's like a heart attack and has to go straight to Bowling Green. You know, you never know. And it's no, it's kind of there's no rhyme or reason. You know, used to you could say like in dispatch, we could say we're going to be busy on Friday, Saturday nights. We're going to schedule extra people. Now, we might be busy on a Monday afternoon. You you and I mean Stratton is the same way. You can't there's no rhyme or reason. But I'll be glad. I mean, any complaint that the judges received, we have pulled the pad,

looked at the times and done stuff like that. But I mean it just it's unfortunate that you know and and we feel as helpless as the people there on the scene because you know until we can get a first responder there or something like that. It's an in progress call. I've got a dispatcher on the phone with them, you know, until then. So

yeah, we can't forget about the supplemental help we get from the fire department. Well, I mean, you don't realize how much the volunteer fire departments help EMS on those runs because like you said, I've seen them where they were in Nashville, the one then the second truck went to Bowling Green, they call the on call crew in and they're still shortly united. Uh, and that can happen in two hours and then they get another run for two hours. I mean, they're totally set and waiting. So you go from high to low constantly. It's it's so unpredictable. But again, uh our EMS or our fire services. Oh yeah.

Really taking a lot of burden off of them being on those on those lag times that just can't be up sometimes. And you can count on it. If it's storms, you're going to have EMS runs all night long. Nonrelated to the storm, especially bad weather everybody. And there's so many like full moons if it's if it comes a thunderstorm they will have labor pains, chest pains, falls. I mean they answer a lot of people falls can't get out and have nobody to help. People start getting frantic and start moving around to do something that's

so I mean our volunteer fire department are go get go get milk and bread. I go get milk and bread at the store. Never thought the weather would affect the place.

Well, [laughter] I'm glad to have that heads up from you, J. Thank you for the last meeting the judge and I had with John, there was nothing uh alarming that I saw in the data of call. you know, we had a meeting because we I did receive some complaints about how many runs they were making in the Bowling Green area and uh you know, we had a discussion about that and they do make runs in the Bowling Green area with their truck. They do.

And uh there is a lot of things that our current carrier provides for us free of charge. Extra staffing, extra equipment, extra trucks. You know, I know there's not meeting everybody's needs, but if we had to bid out everything that is currently being provided, you're paying double what you're paying now. I bet so.

I'm just telling you the truth. Okay. you got spare trucks and day trucks and you know they're pulling resources from Todd County when needed and vice versa. You know, I mean even more if they need something from Logan County and you know there's an emergency. I mean we have an interlocal agreement. We we help each other out and uh but the sheriff is correct. We could not do it without the,

you know, the emergency management and first responders and volunteer fire departments. But the question is, how much do you want and how much are you willing to pay for it? You got your budget in front of you. If you want twice the service, just double your cost and we'll bid it out. But you got to you got to come up with the money to

tell you a quick story that someone I know was at an event and it was in Illinois. This is a different state, okay? in Illinois and and just a kind of comparison of the problems they have versus the problems our problems that some lady passed out the floor and someone there was was helping them, you know, resuscitate them and whatever. They kept them alive, but she died because it took an hour and a half to get there for any first responder. Hour and a half. And that's what and I don't know that Illinois from some of these areas don't do our our volunteer firefighters and those kind of people. I don't

we're we're in Logan County if it wasn't for for the volunteers to do that 100%. And and also the other thing that that we have to look at is that the laws that that ambulance services have to go through on where they can and when they can't charge and what they're regulated to by insurance companies is one of the big driving forces of why it's cost so much. So until we can get stuff like that fixed, we're always going to be I mean we're in the same boat with these with ambulance services that we are actually with the jail about the cost that we're having to sue by laws being wrote but no financial no finances to back those laws.

Insurance companies world we're just living in. You're absolutely right. With that being said, we have a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? No. That was great though. Roll call. Yes, good. Yes, Luc. Yes, Harper. Yes, Crawford. Yes, Balden. Yes, Baker. Yes. Going back to one quick thing. I will be reaching out to several of you to see who was would like to help me put some of that stuff together.

Chris, you're number one on the list, buddy. [laughter] I know they help you look at but I can't it's not a passion but I'm I agree. I mean I'd love to hear more about what Jinger and Steven think about it more than Well and that that could be that could be part of John was really eye open and have a fuller understanding. I always enjoy when he comes here and talks how they operate and the data he provided it was it was really helpful. When did you have that meeting? How was that about three or four months? Three or four months ago. Yes sir. My man. Yes, sir. We had had a couple of complaints about seeing the Logan County truck in Warren County and that stirred

complaints and so hey we just called John said John could you come in and talk to us we'd like to address this and receive really good information. Um, I call it I think it's really hard for us to say, hey, they, you know, set a time or anything. You know, every call we get, they could be tied up on something really that in my mind does not need an ambulance, but whenever they're called, we have to send an ambulance. They're out there dealing with something really minute and then we have something serious come on the other end of the county, but they can't just drop this patient

and go. [clears throat] And you know, as far as you know, then you've got them in Bowling Green, which they are using the home care truck to do the special rounds in Bowling Green, but they're already up there. Sometimes they'll be picking up a patient, you know, we pick up a patient from Bowling Green, bring it back to Len County. So I mean it's and you know of course there'll be for every you know one complaint there might be 10 15 20 calls that there's no complaints you know but it's always you know scream loudest and you know I'll be glad to pull any calls that y'all get complaints on pull times but

one of one of the things I have asked John to do is to pull his data and find out try to establish a a prime time on when that third truck might be needed the most of asking for that. He's working on that to my to my knowledge. And that will give us a little better um idea of when a third truck might be needed, when we would it's all it's a gamble. Let's just be honest with you. It's a gamble when you have that third truck on it. So, um, one thing I I'll share that the meeting that we had with John, a couple things that there's a lot of assists, fall assist, you know, they they call and, you know, they have to go and so they they go and

a reasonable amount of times when they get out there, the person's already picked back up and, you know, there was no need for them. Well, the volunteer firefighters have done it already, but you know, there's a lot I'm just talking about for them. and they show up, they show up and

the person is already and nobody bothers to call back and say, "Hey, we don't need you." And there's been multiple times, this is what was crazy. I almost hate to mention it here on YouTube, but that somebody will call and ask to be taken to the hospital in Bowling Green. They schedule it and pick them up when they can. When they go to bone green, they get out of the ambulance and they take off walking and go somewhere else. Never go never intended to go to the hospital. They needed a ride. Yep. Yep. And they came multiple times that so you also have to remember that person should be arrested and put in jail.

Okay. You are jeopardizing lives doing that nonsense. Yes. and causing the taxpayers to sit here and talk and have conversations about spending $300,000 to add a third ambulance. And we got people who will call the ambulance service. Doesn't happen a lot, but it's happened more than once and just for a ride to Bowling Green. Yeah. Cuz they'll schedule ahead of time for doctor's appointment for doctor's appointments. Some people have to go by ambulance for their doctor's appointment, but they don't have any other way to get there.

Well, some people, of course, they can't. they don't have another way, you know, they can't get in the car or anything like that. But they'll take a lot of scheduled transports, diialysis, different things like that. Of course, that ties up. That's why they have the day truck, but of course, you know, that takes care of doctor appointments. But at night, you know, we're running back and forth to nursing homes and the hospitals and people's houses and and I mean, our county is huge. You know, it's kind of like the sheriff. It never fails. If we get a call on Iron Mountain Road, they're on. I mean, it's, you know, it's it's just very unpredictable and um

they do deal with a lot of nonsense calls sometimes. It seems like I mean we but that's public servant work honestly. You know, we we get it too. We you know, you come get this raccoon out of my [laughter] and we go through it. End up being the hood. Yeah, no smoking. [laughter] I didn't know I could call you raccoons.

When I said the cost, you know, of adding those people 300,000 rough estimate. I mean, it's worth mention mentioning that what we give them every year is not their only revenue. I mean, they they build insurance companies. They have another revenue stream. So, that 300,000 or whatever would not be there pushing it all to us. the the the county contribution just subsidizes what they get in billing because when they show up to a residence as as was said to help someone get up or or just show up, they can't bill and and they refuse to and they don't take the ride. It does they they can't charge for that.

Well, yeah. I just I my whole real point of bringing up was really if we have a minimum list of expectations and requirements, I just want to make sure that everybody's in their pricing is for at least meeting those, you know, and that's that's where I was really going with the conversation is I just want to make sure if we have concerns and our expectations are different than they were the last time we did this, whatever, that those are clearly outlined. And I don't know what those are. or I mean I couldn't even get to write the first one at this moment but I just want to make sure that if we do get two bids that we do know that that pricing me is implying this is the price to meet your expectations.

Agreed. Agree. All right. Let's uh move on or we'll be here till uh sunset. Okay.

Item number seven approved to advertise for bid for the construction of the bridge at Homer Inskco Road. Uh this whole purpose of this is to try to go ahead and and get the 8020 uh money that's available for bridge funds. Uh this is a project that's kind of been in the back of my mind for a while and um it's much needed especially when it rains uh water gets up that that become that little area becomes impassible. Uh this would be like I said uh taking the 8020 bridge money that's available to us and using this hopefully it would be the 2526 money. you. Uh this is one of the three places left in my district that you drive through water. Whether it's raining or not, water, it's not a bridge. Water just runs over the

roads across a couple lackard cedar graveyard. Lack and Yes, it does. Well, that I've got two. You just drive across all the time. Is there It's It's built like that. The road goes down, you drive across the road. Yes. Do you have an estimated cost when they have uh Yeah. Some Somewhere in the 80,000 is what we're looking at. I guess everybody Motion to approve. Second. I have a motion in a second. Well, the bids need to be good for X number of days.

Yes. Okay. I've got it all. I'll just I'll get you a copy of it. Um, is there any other discussion? Roll call. Yes. Good. Yes. Wila, yes. Harper, yes. Crawford, yes. Balden, yes. Baker, yes. Item number eight, approve the 2026 training incentive payment for Magister Tyler and Davenport. This is the same thing we did um back early in the year. Tyler finally got his training done. Well, finding I have a question. [laughter] I got one of those letters. Was I supposed to bring it in here? No.

They email it to us. So, you already have them? Yeah. I was going to say, man, if I I've been messing up. What? I don't have it just yet. They'll email. Oh, cuz I was going to say I I I know I got all that. They sent you a copy and they sent the judges. Motion to approve. Well, cool. Tyler, do I have a second? We just We need to have a little bazooka. [laughter] I have a motion. Do I have a second? Have a motion. Second. No further discussion. Roll

call, please. sleep yesterday. We vote yes too often. [laughter] I'll say yes. Now's the time to say no. [laughter] You remember how I voted two means ago when we had yours, right? Yes. [laughter] Yes. Yes. Man, that we have no reason to go into session [laughter and screaming] at this time. I think Chris, you have some proposed agenda.

Yeah. Uh I mentioned this to uh to the judge. Uh I don't know the the language of this, but I guess I want to make a motion that we award the hot mix bids that we rejected at the last court meeting. make that award to Scotty's contracting for the upcoming fiscal year assuming that they honor their pricing that they submitted. I think it would actually be to resend the vote in the last meeting and then then if that passes then open it up for discussion again what do I need to reword that? Yeah.

Make a motion to resend order number 33. the motion to uh reject all hot mix bids from Clary and Scotty's and instead award that contract then we'll make another motion. Then you're going to do something else, right? The reason for rescending is basically uh clearly does not have anything within miles of Logan County and it makes sense just the award to be a directly to Scotty's. Chris and I spoke about this and I agree with him 100%. It's a good motion though. Just word it different. Well, the only I thought during the meeting we talked about if something happens and Scotty's wasn't open.

Still don't think you're going to get it. Still I think it's still too far away. Too far away too. I have Okay. I have a motion in a second. Scotties. Yes. Good. Yes. We have to cut. We have to approve a second. Okay. Crawford. Yes. Yes. Three years and I'm still learning. Contingent on Scotty's by honoring their submitted bid prices. I vote to award the hot mixed bids that we received from Scotty's for the upcoming fiscal year. Second.

I have a motion and a second. With no discussion, roll call. Yes. Gilman. Yes. Wilcott, yes. Harper, yes. Crawford, yes. Balden, yes. Yes. I will add on it. There's a lot of expectation that they're going to have a second plant more local in the upcoming future. Mhm. That won't be an issue. Yeah. Do we have anything else for post agenda? Uh, did everyone receive the road criteria email from me? I think so. Has everybody looked it over? Yes, I have mine with

I plan on having it on as a first reading at the next meeting. Okay. If everyone's okay with it cuz I was surprised at my role that one. Okay. I think it's decided by the state individual take the samples of the roof. Have they come back with anything yet? I have not heard a word from them. I thank you for bringing that up. I will uh Yes, sir. I will. Just looking for specs to advertise blue blue tarps and concrete blocks. We've got some lights out in the individual pods that we can't fix. Constantly water damage. It puts it out as soon as we replace it.

Okay. Tiles and things. No sense of fixing it. Water damage is big issue. Thank you for asking. I will I will reach out to them today and I will tag you in on that email. Thanks, sir. What's our schedule in May as far as budget stuff? Can you just remind me when Do you have that? Do you have that? I don't I don't have it in front of me. I uh It's downstairs. I know where it's hanging. It's hanging on our wall and and I'm sure Give me two seconds of what all is going to be on our agenda. The first reading, second reading, and then when we have the workshop and all that. Yeah, we haven't scheduled a workshop. Um, not for

just just if you would just I just curious I make sure I get that on my calendar and don't commit myself to something else. We'll probably the next meeting we'll probably the first meeting. Please review it and we'll schedule something to comment on. Please let us know ASAP. I mean absolutely budget committee will be you know looking at that here soon and meeting with the judge and

Amanda to make some recommendations you know health insurance final numbers coming in soon on that uh we'll be getting back from so I'll deliver that to the positive numbers. Um, we're talking about this thing, right? I have those dates right here. All of our roads that are problems, Chris, I have those dates right here. Starting today for not picked the same.

Uh, May the 12th will be the first reading. uh with the second reading being June the 23rd. So we'll do the workshop in between the 1st and the 2nd. Right. In May typically in May. Yeah. What do you usually Oh. Yeah. Somewhere between the 12th and the 23rd of February. Sometime early June or late May, early June. June last. Look at your date. Look at your calendar dates and see what's available and we'll decide from there. earlier you put the more clear. Yes, ma'am.

any substantial changes to the budget after we have the first reading. After you have the first reading and it goes to DG and they approve it as the form of classification. If you make a lot of substantial changes to it, then you have to have the first reading again. Yes. So, we don't want to do that. Yes, if you got something on there you want change, be sure to shoot it out to the judge and Amanda uh so we can talk about it when we have our meetings. What's the first one? Is this Friday? I just sent every one of those dates. This Friday.

All right. Is there anything else for post agenda? I have