Select Board - Regular Meeting

good evening Littleton this evening we will be starting our meeting in executive session we will come out of executive session at approximately 630 p.m. so

journal law chapter 38 section 21 a2 to conduct strategy sessions with non-union personnel specifically the police chief and move the select board vote to enter an executive session pursuant to master your law chapter 38 section 21 a2 to conduct negotiations with non-union second and it's moved by mark second by karen this will be a roll call vote

Chuck?

Opposed, aye. Aaron?

Aaron Morrison's aye. Mark? Aye.

And Gary's right. Well, we'll see you at approximately 6.30. Thank you. I would like to start the evening with the Pledge of Allegiance, as always, and we would like to follow that up with a moment of silence. We're going to hand it off to Mark for a moment of silence. We had a passing of a veteran.

On behalf of the Select Board and the town of Littleton, we extend our deepest condolences to the family and friends of John Charles Jack Doyle, who passed away peacefully on June 6, 2026, at the age of 78. A longtime resident of Littleton, Jack was a proud veteran of the United States Navy, serving his country during the Vietnam War. Following his military service, he devoted himself to his family, his community, and a distinguished career with Digital Equipment Corporation. He was also a dedicated member of the American Legion Post 313, where he maintained a lifelong commitment to supporting fellow veterans and serving others. The Select Board respectfully request a moment of silence in honor of John Charles Jack Doyle, whose life of service, dedication to family, and commitment to his community left a lasting impact on those who knew him. We extend our sincerest condolence to his family and loved ones.

Thank you.

All right, this evening, we're going to read the mail.

We're going to get into some department board updates and requests. We've got a special Appleman Triathlon, our annual event with the Rotary, coming up. Our members are here to discuss that. We have some vote for our transfer for our snow and ice and public member updates. We'll get into some fiscal year discussion on town board and committee appointments. We are going to meet our new town moderator.

I believe that's happening tonight as well.

And we vote to approve the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation Cycle for Life bicycle event. We're going to finally discuss our select board liaison to different town boards and committees. We're going to have a little bit more discussion on flock cameras. We're going to continue discussion over a period of time, so you'll see that on the agenda, like I had mentioned, probably for the next several weeks. We'll vote to authorize town administrator to sign an inter-municipal agreement with the town of Boxborough for LCTV. We're going to accept a letter from the Park and Recreation Commission declaring a member vacancy and set a meeting date to make a joint appointment for a new member. And then we'll have a town administrator update, minutes, and then we will adjourn. So, town administrator, we're getting into reading of the mail.

thank you mr. chairman members of the of the select bird select board sorry we have to start out with the we've got a number of current vacancies on town and boards what is the wish of the German read them all

I'm sorry? There's a number of them.

Yes, there are. Please check the website.

I mean, that's a lot. Just look at the website or on this packet online, and you'll see that we always have volunteer opportunities in the town of Littleton for various committees and boards. Maybe one of those will interest you. Please. Please volunteer.

We also have online, that is up there now, the select board office hours that would be running through May of next year. At this point, we've got, that is happening probably, I'm looking at twice a week, approximately twice a week in some areas at this point. But we've got Mr. Rombacher, Mr. Bup and Ms. Morrison that have taken the brunt of it. And we also have our picnic, Littleton 4th of July Town Picnic Press Release. In celebration of the 250th anniversary, it will be a Littleton Town Picnic at Fay Park on Saturday, July 4th from 1130 to 230. It is sponsored by the Littleton Historical Commission, and it will open with the ringing of town church bells, a free concert by Molly Flannery Quartet, as well as children's games, singing of the National Anthem, and other events. The rain date would be will be on Sunday, July 5th. Parking for the picnic is available at Castle in the Trees and at the Littleton Congressional Church, both on King Street. Participants are asked to bring their own picnic lunches, pack in and out. There are no trash facilities at the park. Appreciating the picnic are events at the Littleton Historical Society on Roger Street, adjacent to Fay Park, which include viewing of the historic cannons. And the picnic is funded by a generous grant from the Littleton Rotary, as well as a grant from the Littleton Cultural Council. So if you have any questions, please contact Andrew Bowers at 978-486-8642.

Despite the amount I begged, they will not be firing the cannon. I tried.

We also have a scheduled public hearing for the Littleton Planning Board, which will be this Thursday, June 25th, 2026, at 6.35 p.m. in the multi-purpose room in the center on Shattuck at 33 Shattuck Street. This is an application for open space development, special permit, stormwater permit. AquaFair District Special Permit and it's at Blue Bird Farm and 359 King Street. The project is consisting of a five unit residential open space cluster development. Less than one acre will be used for the residential redevelopment and approximately five acres preserved as open space. Here we have a gift acceptance form from EHS in the amount of $2,500 and from the name of the party offering the gift is John C. Morrison and Eunice B. Morrison Charitable Foundation, and it's to help continue EHS's mission for the residents of Littleton. Tax relief for the elderly and disabled and the Safe Return Program. Very generous, thank you very, very much. We have another gift acceptance form from Sam Alvarez from the library. Also from John C. Morrison and Eunice B. Morrison Charitable Foundation in the amount of $5,000 in recognition of the library's good work and expected to be spent on programming for the library. Thank you again.

The Morrison Foundation has done a lot over the years for the town, and we are very grateful for their support. Absolutely. No, very generous. A huge supporter of the library and the COA and other organizations, so thank you.

Yes. Okay, that would be it, Mr. Chairman, for mail.

All right, thank you. We're going to take things a little out of order since we do have our Rotary family here today. So we're going to go on with the 3B Rotary Club discussion about the Appleman Triathlon. So this is your chance to shine. This is their yearly event. It's gotten bigger and bigger and bigger, I think, every year. I'm Cheryl.

Hello. And you're going to hope he's upside down. These are visual aids, thanks to my husband. And does everyone know what the Appleman Triathlon is? Maybe I should just give a quick summary. You know there are a lot of people who watch you guys online? I didn't know that. I found that out after the last time I was here.

We get a lot of clicks.

Probably because we can mess with AI and dub our voice.

So the Appleman Triathlon is a sprint triathlon. It's a half-mile swim, a 10-mile bike, and a three-mile run. We are certified by the United States Triathlon Association, so it is a qualifying race. We have had as many as 600 racers at a time. That was pre-COVID and was all good, but a little crowded down there. We have since decided that we are going to cap it at 500 people. Last year we made $40,000 off of the base and 80% of that $40,000 stayed right here in Littleton. We supported everything from BFW and any Eagle Scout project that comes before us. tread and we've done a whole lot of all I'm blanking on all the different things we just gave the other 20% from the ghost regionally like we just gave 2,500 to Lowe's and fishes and we've given 5,000 for an international thing but it's it's oh it's it's a good thing

We do a tremendous amount with the schools here. So they are recipients of a fair amount of what we do earn over the years.

Anyway, this year we hope to make $45,000. We're on track for it. We raised our prices a little bit because we needed to be able to pay for the policemen we need for the roads. Now, we had a problem last year. When we first started the race, the first 10 years of the race, I wasn't there, but I was told that basically we shut down all of Newtown Road, all of Goldsmith, all of Shaker Lane, and closed them down. And it's for a very brief time, Sunday morning. The race starts at 8 a.m., and the first biker's out just before 8.30, I believe. Is that right? About 8, 8, I mean, they swim that half mile mighty fast. 8.20. 8.20. And then the last biker is usually back by 10, 9.30, somewhere in there, around 9.30.

10 at the latest.

Why don't you come up and talk with us? Because a lot of this is Doug's planning for us.

So Lieutenant Landry is the liaison from the police department. And he's a member of our Rotary. And a member of Rotary.

And so he's been helping us plan this. Last year we had a couple of painful spots. of spots that scare us. The one by Cleva, but we can handle that. We put a policeman there. We've got the volunteer corps there. And they've got that down. But there are places where the road is really narrow and there's two-way traffic. on a long stretch, that's the problem. And we had a bike run off the road on Shaker Lane and someone hurt and we're worried about that. Shaker Lane is very narrow and you get people going in two different directions and a pack of bikes going down there also and suddenly you've got trouble. So what we'd like to do is, right at the moment, we only close a small part of Goldsmith. We'd like to make Shaker Lane one way, going towards 119. So people can still get down there, they can get to the parking, they can get to the race, they can get to that intersection at Shaker Lane, but then they're going to have to flow out from Shaker Lane. They can't turn up Shaker Lane. So if it's one way going with the bikes, we think that that will solve our issue. That was Doug's idea.

Well, let's hear, let's hear. I mean, he's got the, you've got the traffic plan. I've seen it.

No, thank you all for inviting me tonight. I appreciate it. This is a great thing for the Rotary and for the town. So I'm happy to help. So yeah, it's always been an open race. The bikes that come and join us, they seem, they know that it's tradition that so, but If we can limit some of the traffic in the area, I think it's going to make for a safer race. And we're also going to limit some parking on street parking with signage and things beforehand to get ahead of some of the narrowness on the streets. But yes, so keeping that traditional short section of Goldsmith Street closed, as we always have, is going to stay the same. and then again one way down Shaker Lane with the flow of traffic so and there's an officer on both sides of Shaker Lane posted so they will allow the bikes from Goldsmith Street onto Shaker Lane and kind of limit the gaps and spaces and slow everyone down to make sure they enter the roadway safely with the bikes and then at the same thing at Great Road they're going to be allowing people onto Great Road safely stopping traffic but no traffic towards the flow of bikes going up Shaker Lane this year. So that is a change. And then also as we spoke about Neshoba Road. So Neshoba Road at the water district area where the reservoir is, very tight turn when we're at the Acton Line there. So you've got bikes very early in the race. Both of these roads are very early in the race. They've got a lot of pep to them. So they're going pretty good at this time. So we want to make sure that's a safe corner for them. So we're going to post an officer down there with the volunteer corps and the SIRT team that participates with us. And that is going to be... The flow will be against the bikes in that area, but we have a whole lane to themselves now, right? So the bikes will have that whole lane that they'll know that they'll stay in the right lane as if they were a vehicle. And at the Nagog Hill four-way intersection, there'll be another officer, significant volunteer, just to kind of limit the speeds and everything and let people know there's a bike race in the area. Again, it's the turn that we're worried about, not necessarily the travel. But the two-way travel on that quick section, because they do go left at Nagog Hill at the orchard. So they'll be off Neshoba Road at that point. I think doing this will allow the flow of traffic in the morning. It would be a lot better, right? If we close the whole course down, we're kind of limiting how people can get to the event themselves because we get late arrivals. We get people, spectators that want to come see a family member or maybe their family member is just doing the bike portion or just the run portion, so they're showing up a little bit late. And if we kind of push those people away, they're not going to be able to get to their event. And then also residents in the area. Like preemptively getting out, using our Facebook, our social media, working with signage.

We'll post everything. We'll post notices. We'll take little notices at the outside of everyone's mailbox. We always do that on the bike route. We'll remind them that the race is going to happen and ask them to please be careful of everyone. It's a very short period of time that the bikes are out there. It's no more than an hour and a half, and it's first thing Sunday morning. So traffic usually isn't that bad. It's just where the roads are really narrow. We can handle the intersections with the help of our officers, but where the roads are really narrow, it becomes an issue.

That's a major church there, too.

Yeah, and that's one of the reasons we're going to keep it flowing the way we've got it flowing. But they don't start until after our bikes are done.

Okay, good.

So it shouldn't—I mean, there will be people, I'm sure, arriving early, and that's an advantage for— making that road one way as we are. Because if people are coming in out of Acton, they can take that left and go up. There's no bikes on that part. They come down, they come by the orchard. They come from Acton down to the orchard then they can take that left and go back up towards their church.

For this short period, anybody coming from Acton, Westford, if they do want to get to that area of town, Foster Street would be your best route. Harwood Ave or Taylor Street, or Route 2, just come from Route 2. But it is a very short time period. It's early in the race. We have our police motorcycle follow us, the last biker, so we can get on the radio right away. And as soon as Shaker Lane's clear with the last bike, we open that portion up. As soon as we're off in the shoulder road, we open that portion up and it's back to free flow traffic.

We want to minimize any inconvenience for everyone. We want people to like our race. Actually, we're really delighted to find out Mark now runs the run. and he always actually runs it, follows the last runner out and actually runs it. And we found out that all along the route, there are people who set up you know, water stands, and stand out there with their hoses offering to spray people down. And kids, you know, cheering people on, especially for the run going up. It's really, we talked about changing the run, and we got such an outcry against it that we decided not to.

This is our 22nd year of doing this, so it's becoming quite a tradition. the event and in the town and along the route and so I think over the years we try to improve it a little bit every year but in the past we certainly have had very smooth events racers have come through no major problems and we hope to continue that this year any any discussion ever of changing the route I mean I know you've looked at this all the time it is I mean well you know it's it's

It's actually, we've discussed it every year. Okay. And because there are parts of where they go through Prouty's Woods that it gets really muddy.

Yeah.

But there are people who come do this race that do it for that part. And he keeps an eye on that. One year we trucked in wood chips. Yeah. One year they were felling trees, and we had to get special permission. They closed the trails down, and we had to get special permission to use it. And they did, and they promised to keep the trees clear. But then there was a tree down, and so that became an obstacle, which people, you know, afterwards when they get feedback, they actually seem to like. You know, it's all good. The Boy Scouts are our heroes in the woods and keeping people on track. The Volunteer Corps is being our hero on the route. We have people who have done the same corner for 10 years on our bike route because we try to put a volunteer at every turn and make sure that no one goes astray. And we have swim angels. Our goal is to always have at least 10 swim angels for the swimmers, for people who are unsure of themselves swimming that long. Park and Rec does a fabulous job of getting out there with us. Tim and now Tim's replacement has always, you know, and the fire department always shows up in mass. We give them their own little pop-up tent and picnic table for their EMT station. It's usually my son who needs to use it. But it's all good. It is. And it's over. We're cleaned up and gone from the beach by noon. There's no sign of us. And we always need someone to lead the Pledge of Allegiance. And we'd love to have one. You're going to be busy because you're doing our drone shot. Kyle is going to do our drone photography for us this year. If any of you would like to come and plead the Pledge of Allegiance for us, we'd certainly appreciate it. You have to be there by 7.30 in the morning.

If we're singing the anthem, I might volunteer. If we're singing the anthem, I might volunteer. You want to sing?

Okay, I don't care.

Well, I had Peter Island singing this year, but I hear, one year we had two singers for the anthem, and so one of them sang the anthem, and one of them sang God Bless America, and that was great. Everyone liked it.

Great. Any other concerns from the police department?

No. They've committed to staffing it adequately, so I think we're going to be good.

That's been wonderful. a big help. We'd be happy to answer any questions anybody might have about the race. How would the crazy people sign up? How do the crazies who want to do this sign up?

AppleMadeForAthlon.com has a link to their run sign up page.

And you're still looking for volunteers? And volunteers, right? Yes. And for volunteers. I'm about to post the volunteer sign up on Littleton Moms United. We particularly need people always set up the night before and break down. We get the beach around 4 o'clock on Saturday night, and we set everything up. And then on Sunday, then a lot of us are there Sunday morning. These aren't where we need people to volunteer, but a lot of us are there by Sunday morning, including me, unfortunately. And then... But we need people to break down starting around 10.30, 10.30 to pick up bike racks and help us pick up netting, fencing. We have to keep people out of the transition area. We can only allow athletes in the transition area. And our transition area is actually the parking lot for the the beach area. That becomes our transition period. We squeeze 500 bikes into that. And it's kind of a fun site. If you go online to the applemantriathlon.com site, there's a wonderful video that is a couple years old now and we're hoping to replace. But it shows you a lot.

All good, thank you. One suggestion, when you have your traffic plan, put it in the volunteer bag so the volunteers, when they're on the course, know how you're directing traffic and how to direct people either to the race or around the race.

They probably could do that. You can kind of see on this. I could put one-way arrows.

Which way, where the one-ways are, where, you know, if they want to get around, you know, people that want to go from Goldsmith to Acton, where you're recommending they go, that type of thing, because it always comes up.

Okay. Oh, for the ones you put on the mailbox.

Or, when you put the bags out for the volunteers at the different stations, give them those too, and let them know that they, tell them to read them, because those always come up.

Okay, we're actually going to, for the first year, we're actually going to have an information booth. Judy Brandy has offered to staff at the beach. We've never had an information booth before, but I think we need one. I run the transition area, and I wear a bright red shirt every year so people can find me, but this will be a lot better.

Is she going to be wearing the Apple Man? No, no.

We have a lovely young man, high schooler, who has done it for the last three years and has already signed up to do it again this year. It's very fun. His mom actually called me last year and wanted to know where he should sign up because he liked doing it. But, okay.

Good? Yeah.

And if you're in high school or middle school and you need volunteer hours, we're happy to give you for this. This is a non-profit thing, and so it's all good.

Thank you.

We have your permission to make those roads one way as the police recommend.

Yes, this is the recommendation from public safety, so this is how we put our trust in them. It doesn't sound like anybody had any concerns of what the plan was.

We are a little worried about next year with Shaker Lane being rebuilt.

Yeah, we'll cross that bridge.

We'll have to cross that bridge when we get there and figure that out.

I think with it being Sunday, you're going to be okay because all the construction is going to be back in the field.

I know, but we use that. They use them and their field for parking.

We'll figure it out.

We'll figure it out when we get there.

But thank you guys. Thank you for all you do for the town and the community. So truly appreciate it. Thank you.

Thanks, Lieutenant. Thank you.

Of course. Thank you so much. All right.

All right, we have a vote to approve potential agreement with non-union personnel, Alicia Day. We've all discussed it.

No concerns.

No concerns.

I'm prepared to vote.

Motion.

Move that the select board vote to approve the agreement as presented.

Second.

Moved by Mark, second by Chuck. All those in favor?

Aye. Thank you.

Vote to approve year-end transfer for snow and ice spending.

Mr. Chairman, that is a miscommunication. There were no transfers for the select board to take action on this evening. It's informational only. What we'll do, as in years past, is any deficit that we have, and we're looking at approximately $400,000 over $400,000 of a deficit because there were 24 events over the past winter. We will, as in years past, raise it in the recap. So as informational purposes, the 24 events that required either treating and or plowing One of the main drivers is the cost of salt. The price went up to $103 per ton this past winter from what was previously at $65. So we're almost looking at almost double. Obviously we have a limited number of staff and plow contractors, they are working much longer hours, increase the overtime. Vehicle repair is a bit less of a factor other than the rising cost of plowing and sander parts. And that is the update that we offer the Select Board.

Okay. Let's do our member updates. We're ready for that.

Kyle, do you have anything for us? I don't have anything. No. Danny?

So I attended the retirement party for Kelly Clunchy last week. I wanted to thank him for his years of service to the town. I attended the Bicycle and Pedestrian Committee meeting last week. Still looking for the speed limit changes in town and some other things going on. I said the Habitat, or the Affordable Housing Trust meeting, Habitat for Humanity has their building permit for the 87 Taharawan.

Is that what they, it looks like there's work being done there. I saw some chatter on Facebook, like what's going on in there. They already started that?

They're starting, I don't know that they started anything. They said they're going to be starting to clear some of the brush. That's what it is. They're planning on having, starting construction sometime this fall with a house, hopefully inhabitable by next June. Okay. Kyle and I both went to the Historical Society's event at Dirigible on last week. We did do that. We did not win the trivia team, but it was a lot of fun, and I believe they still have shirts available over at the Historical Society. They made a nice t-shirt, so I suggest people go over there and check them out. I am going to the Mass Housing Institute Thursday and Friday. They're having a two-day conference sponsored by Mass Housing Partnership. So that should be interesting. And we have finalized the MOU with cleanliness. It has been reviewed by Town Council and Westford Town Council. This allows us to piggyback off the Westford's contract for treatment of Forge Pond for this season. We have a draft of an IMA that the Conservation Agents have reviewed. We're getting ready to send that to Westford, and we'll be bringing it in front of us in the next meeting or two.

And that's Lake Mattawanakee, our half, just to let you know. We have a line down the middle of the lake. I don't have a whole lot. One thing I was able, I had the honor today with our town administrator, Jim. We attended the graduation of one of our newest officers, Officer Jonathan Proya. So I think... Congratulations to him and his family I met today, and he'll be starting, geez, I think they're giving him one day off tomorrow. He'll be with us starting Wednesday, so if you see him around town, Officer Proya, please wish him well and congratulate him.

Nothing really, just school is out, so there's going to be more kids in crosswalks and on bikes and whatnot, so just be aware that There's a lot of kids out there, so be careful.

All right, this is the time when we have opened up to the public. If we have anyone that would like to speak. Mr. Sanders.

George Sanders, 682 Great Road. Good evening. I just wanted to bring up a couple of things. One is the crosswalk up here at the Baptist Church up here. I understand they're selling the church to someone in Acton, I guess. Another church. And they're probably going to be taking that sign down, Mr. Chairman, in August. I know we had spoke about that before because cars come up to the stop sign there. It's tough for them to see when the car is to the right band coming up Stevens Street. We had someone get killed there coming from the church. And we need to get the state to, it's a state rural there, so we need to get the state to look in and probably put a crosswalk light there. It's definitely needed because you've got business on the other side over there. And I noticed the other day people was having a hard time trying to cross over to go to, Goldsmith on that side coming from off King Street to go across over there. So we need to look at that for the safety of the people in the town here. The other thing I wanted to make note on, I spoke to the building inspector, with regards to Gary Farm down here. I begin to wonder, what does that place turn into? Is it a transportation relay point? They got all kind of, there's probably, I've seen seven, I counted eight large vehicles down there at one time. And I think now they've got a tractor down there, and they've got two lowboys on this side with the street that goes down back to Harbor there. And then they've got a reefer van over there, and they've got another trailer, a lowboy, and then there's another truck over there. What is going on? I mean, this is ridiculous. They bring these vehicles in here into the neighborhood. I mean, it's looking bad down there. with Gary Fong down there with them bringing these vehicles in here. And I'm just wondering, what in the name of the world are they doing there? I would think that we need to talk to them and say, why are you bringing these vehicles in here?

I don't know if it's a violation of a law. I mean, it's private land, right?

Yeah, it's private land. But normally you've got big vehicles like that that comes in like that. I mean, I look at it as being a relay station.

Jim, do you know?

Yeah, I mean, the new owner has no plans at this point with a schedule on developing the site. So any arrangement he or she may have made with that activity, we're not aware of. But I can absolutely follow up and to see if there's any zoning or anything that is violated or anything like that, Mr. Sanders.

Okay, because I know that they originally wanted to bring something in, and the two farms on Great Road there said against it that they wanted to come in here, and it's sitting out there for a while, and then all of a sudden these vehicles started coming in and parking in over there.

Okay, thank you, sir.

George, just before I let you go, there's still some discussion that I know I've had regarding that crosswalk of possibility of an island there. We see it in some communities, also in a lot of cities, where it's a halfway point, almost a safe place, where another walk light would be in the middle of the island and one on either end, so it kind of And that's probably what's needed there just because of the width of that. It's a quadruple lane.

The bicycle and pedestrian committee held a meeting with, I think Matt Stott was there, and LaPolle was there and a couple others. And that was one suggestion. I think the police were against that at the time because of making the left turn out of Goldsmith very difficult.

Confusing to people.

Going around and... of moving the crosswalk to the other side of the intersection so that it comes off of the park there by the Veterans Corner, extending that a little bit, making that a safe area and through. I don't know how it was left, who's driving the process going forward, but we need to follow up with that.

Thank you for bringing it up. Thank you. Anyone else? Lieutenant Landry, nothing from the police on that crosswalk?

No, no, the last I heard was the same suggestions, but no new updates on that.

Thank you. All right. Let's move down to our, actually, Ms. Bean, are you planning to stay here? I'm going to move you up on the agenda just so you don't have to spend the whole night.

Sure, I'm happy to listen.

Okay, as long as you're comfortable. We're almost there. Thank you. All right, let's talk about the fiscal year 2027 town board and committee appointments. So we have a list of appointments that we need to make. So any discussion? And thank you to, I think some of these volunteers might be returning. Are they all returning?

The majority of them, I think there's only two that are not.

Two names, okay. But once again, thank you to all the volunteers. I'm one of them on here, so I don't think I can vote.

I'm staying for myself.

Okay, thank you. So I'll look for a motion if we don't have any discussion.

Is there anybody that doesn't want to speak? Good point. Thank you.

Oh, okay.

You don't have to say anything. No, I mean, one, I just, you know, I figured I'd show up since, you know. Yeah, you spent, you.

Anybody have some questions, or?

Appreciate it.

He's a very valuable member of the zoning board of the police.

He used to be a 22nd. Thank you. Can we vote him? Can we do it as a slate?

You can do it as a slate, really.

Just exclude him?

Yeah, I would just take over the disabilities.

Do it as a slate with the exception of disabilities.

So the motion says as in the table below, but these ones that were handed out I don't think are in the table. So I don't know what the...

I would add that Tom McRae and Gary... So you're going to have to hold off on the disability one anyways versus Gary.

So you're just going to add him now...

Follows on that.

before, and then come back. Move the select board vote to approve the slate of appointees in the table below, and Alan McRae to Littleton Community Television. Advisor Committee, Paolo Barroso to Bicycle and Pedestrian Committee, Ann L. Appleton to Sustainability Committee, and Sarah Rustan to Cultural Council. Second.

Moved by Mark, seconded by Chuck. All those in favor? Aye. And thank you to all those volunteers. And please, if it's one inappropriate, thank you at the town clerk's office.

Now the hard one. Do you want to actually put Gary on?

Should we put him on the podium and ask him some questions? Yeah.

I get enough from Mr. Sanders in the back. Please, go ahead.

Move the select board vote to appoint Gary Wilson to the Disability Commission. Second.

Moved by Mark, seconded by Chuck. All those in favor? Aye. And I will abstain. All right, thank you, and thank you once again.

Thank you.

Okay, now on to the introduction of our town moderator, Cammie Bean. Please, come on up.

I did bring the town meeting time.

I'm going to read it. I could read from it.

It's fascinating reading. Yeah, so I'm here to introduce myself as your newly elected town moderator. I'm a little bit nervous about this. This is quite a role. I take it very seriously, though, and I'm really excited to partner with all of you to learn and to grow in the role and to... do our best to keep moving Littleton forward in the spirit of participatory democracy and be the unbiased town moderator that I need to be. So I have started my studies by reading the book. I have become a member of the Massachusetts Moderators Association. I was going to come to this meeting two weeks ago and it turned out that was the first training, so I went to that. I've been assigned a mentor with the town of Carlisle moderator, who I think Tim Goddard, who I've met with, he was the town administrator there at some point. So I think he knows him as well. And of course, I've been in touch with Tim and plan to lean on him heavily. And really just want to keep the lines of communication open with all of you. I am very new at this, so I'm not a lawyer. I'm a public speaker, sort of. I'm a writer. I can hopefully keep the crowd in order. Yeah, but I'll be really looking to take guidance from all of you as well.

Madam moderator.

Madam moderator.

That's your best friend right there. She'll keep the order of the entire place.

Yes, I feel very confident in our town clerk and town council. I've been told town council will be here and town clerk will be here. And Diane has already, after I handed to my papers and she said, you know, Tim has been doing this for 20 years. And the guy before, 35 years. And I thought, oh my goodness, what have I said before?

It was a 20 year, you signed up for 20 years, I think. It's in the motion. It was a tiny print.

So we'll see how this goes. Yeah, I mean, I think really important to stay informed of what the hot issues are. So going into town meeting, I have some idea of what the hot ticket items are. then certainly working on procedural things with all of you so prepping of the warrant I don't know exactly how Littleton does it relative to you know every town seems to be doing it a little bit differently and it's been interesting hearing from all the various moderators on how they do it so

You'll get your style. I would say definitely watch some of our town meetings.

I've been to many of them.

Don't cringe too much.

I've been to many of them, so I have a sense of how it's been done here.

Put your own. We're excited just to have a new voice.

A madam moderator. That will be different for Littleton.

That was fantastic. Thank you. No, it's fantastic, so we appreciate you stepping up. It's such a critical position in the town, and nobody really talks about the town moderate until the spotlight's on it, and you're controlling an entire town meeting. So we appreciate it and the value of it.

Thank you. When I was getting signature, someone at the transfer station kind of leaned in. He was like, so what are you going to do for the town? I said, well, I'm going to volunteer and step in, just like all of you do. That's a start.

I heard cats.

It was really challenging. Like, what's going to be your platform? Well, I'm not supposed to have a platform. So it's to be unbiased. Fantastic. Yes, that will be my key role. So any questions for me?

Yeah, please.

Or suggestions on next steps or what I should do?

Well, we opened up, we know that, you know the dates for everything for town meeting, right? And we should make sure you're involved in preparing the order.

Yeah, I've already got it penciled in, yep.

And, you know, I think, you know, if you're going to, each town moderator has their own style, and, you know, and I think that's a great thing. Last town meeting was very different with a different town meeting moderator, and I'm looking forward to your style, and

I'm sure I will grow into my style, so no big changes this first year, I'm sure. But I will take any suggestions. And I know there's a survey that's gone out. I'd be keen to check that out. Sure.

And anything we can do to help you succeed.

And I won't know what questions to ask necessarily early on, so if you have any ideas or suggestions.

I don't think we know them yet either.

We will be wayfinding our, you know.

We'll have LCTV put you on a five-second tape delay so they can edit anything.

They can edit anything.

No, thank you.

No, thank you, Karen. I appreciate you stepping up and I look forward to your tenure.

Yes, we'll see how long. Three years, 20 years, 35, I don't know. Yes.

Thank you for doing it.

All right. Thank you.

Thank you. no okay all right we're gonna move on vote to approve the route for the October 3rd 2026 cystic fibrosis foundation cycle for life bicycle event please highway and fire didn't have any issues in the back I'm getting the they had shake okay is there is there a Do you have any skin in the game here as far as details or anything for this particular event? No, okay. Okay. Any discussion on this?

Those in favor vote to approve the request of the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation to use Town Roads for Cycle for Life on Saturday, October 3rd, 2026. Second.

Moved by Mark, seconded by Kyle. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Okay, review, discuss, and assign select board liaisons to town boards and committees. So we have the list, I believe, correct? I'm open to discussing who wants to move where, if you want to try something. Kyle, I know it's all new to you, but any members that want to try something? Yeah, me. we can go down the list or we can it's a lot of writing for you Anthony if you work we have to fill all these in yeah we have yeah that's important to know though because it might just stay the same in some cases somebody retire the Charter Review Committee liaisons right well that's oh for the liaison part yeah well let's just go down let's go down the list this won't we can do this fairly fast actually we have one member at AG agricultural Commission I've been doing the AG comm in the bicycle and pedestrian I hand clean lights the top of

Yeah, and I don't mind continuing with those three. If someone else wants them, I'm more than willing to.

All right, so Mark will keep you on Agricultural Commission. Bicycle and Pedestrian, BPAC. Who was the member last year? I don't have that sheet. Me. Okay, good. All right, Charter Review Committee. So as a discussion, do we need to continue to have representation with that committee? If they're not, they're done meeting, I believe. Until we dissolve it? I think so. Okay, we'll just stay on until we dissolve the commission.

Well, all three of us can't be there, so...

it's Kyle's fair point might be a good transition yeah we're just gonna have you I'll step off the two of you can continue the cleaning up and finishing a project clean lakes mark will continue with now so Matthew had the Conservation Commission with liaison and the Council on Aging don't mind taking on the council on aging probably I'll say I'll take on scum okay Anthony's right you're writing it in okay thank you cultural council I was on this as well so this is one that I didn't do a whole lot with so I kind of know several people and they've been coming to me there you go Thank You Karen I'll take it Finance Committee with Mark and I. It's typically, when we're doing finance policy, it's usually the chair and then the member. I know you were on it last year as well.

I don't want to throw Kyle on the bus, but that's actually a good place to learn. It is. Yeah.

I'm interested in it.

All right. You can move in for me. I came from FinCom, so we're quite comfortable handing it off. Definitely a good place to learn. Kyle and Mark, do you want to stay on it? Sure. Thank you. All right, so Matthew Nordhaus, also head of historical commission. Somebody's jumping.

I'll jump in.

You want to do it? Sure. Okay.

There's three as well.

The next three. Your computer just died. No, it didn't.

So Matthew was a second on light and water, right? Yeah. So we need a second.

I'll get on light and water. I have no issue. Chuck, do you want to stay on? Sure. Okay. The two of us will handle light and water. Park and Rec's commission was Chuck and Mark. Are you comfortable staying on the commission?

Yeah. Unless somebody else wants it.

Somebody else want it?

I'll take it if somebody doesn't want it, but...

I'm good standing but if you want to count I can either way either way are we gonna move Karen on to the Park and Rec Commission with mark permanent municipal building committee that's Karen and Chuck guys comfortable staying on it Karen

that's another good one for learning honestly a lot about everything we see that's happening let's do it okay I wish I like you guys tell me which ones to get on oh that's a good one very involved not a heavy lift but you find out a lot you're in the know on yeah any building stuff great now all my neighbors will be asking me

personal advisory committee I've been on I've been on this for a few years I it's something I thoroughly enjoys to Willis professional comfortable with it but if somebody really wants to jump into the human resources I think we'll better serve with you on there yeah okay gladly stay on it so thank you let's see Planning Board we had mark here you go to every meeting works like I have trouble pulling you away from that it's critical it's just such an important board so any of these you know you can add a second liaison if we wanted so somebody wants to jump in and say no I want to learn more about that and there's only one we can always add a second you stay with school committee yeah okay shade tree committee Karen yep good okay sustainability committee Karen okay trust fund Commission Chuck okay all right now these ones we do not have particularly a representation but we've we've put ourselves into some of these board of assessors we typically don't Board of Health and Board of Trustees mark you've been

I've been, yeah, I'm more than willing if someone else wants to be their point of contact.

Mark, you want health as well?

I'm their point of contact, but if you want to take it.

I think you're doing a great job you know it might be time we we think about putting a representation or at least liaisoning with the Cemetery Commission I don't know yeah I spent some time up there okay but thank you CPC I think we've gotten better about bringing CPC in and discussing kind of where.

They've been good for coming to us, too.

Yeah, so I think I'll just keep those unless you think we need someone for representation.

I think communications went pretty good as it is.

I communicate with them a fair amount.

I was going to say, it's Mark, sir.

Mark's a defender.

It's just an important... A lot of it comes through PINCOM.

A lot of what we get from that is through PINCOM. That pool of money is becoming more and more important as it's used for amazing things for the community. All right, we have Council on Aging Housing Subcommittee.

I don't know there's such a thing. Okay, so that's scratched.

housing authority that was Matthew Matthew Matthew's an elected official Matthew's elected on that that is what it is then insurance advisory committee I didn't even know this was I don't think we need to Littleton MBTA commuter rail advisory committee I get every one of their emails this is when we were talking about the station isn't it Keith and I

I think this started back when Keith and I were doing stuff at the station, exactly. Expanding parking.

Yeah, I don't know that that's still a committee. I don't think it really is.

Okay. All right, we're going to remove any liaison with it. Zoning Board of Appeals, we typically don't have a member representing. Any interest in jumping in with those people? Okay. Disability Commission. Obviously, this is just a point. We do not have representation there, but I'm on it as a citizen at large. So I guess that's a member. Littleton Community. Television Advisory Committee for the LCTV. I've been on it as a citizen at large there as well. I'm open if somebody's really interested.

There's a little bit of a learning curve there, so if you're comfortable staying...

yeah no I I thoroughly enjoy it it's a great great department obviously hi guys but I will stay with them affordable housing trust fund yep you'll stay okay committee for the exploration of real estate tax relief for seniors one and two yeah we've been on this committee we haven't met we're in that we're in a situation now where we met Jesus twice a month for a while then we went to once a month we tried to get information out really about all the programs that are available yeah that other communities are using for tax relief for seniors different programs that we have in town We had sessions at lunch, and I think now we're at a point of we're going to meet as needed. So I don't want to remove that committee yet because I think, to me, as new state law comes out, maybe it gives us more options to help.

And we've done a little bit with the legislature.

Yes, there's legislature. So we'll see.

I'm comfortable staying there.

Okay. Thank you. Are you going to stay on? Yeah, I will. Thank you. Economic Development Committee.

I'm going to fall on a sword here, but I think that this is an important one to reengage and, you know, kind of it's almost like the phoenix out of the ashes to bring this back because I think that with 550, And Northern Bank of Trust doing their development. Who knows what McGovern's going to do with the Donlon site.

Comic convenience.

Yeah, exactly. There's a lot going on. I've been remiss, frankly. Lost a lot of members. And I'd like to try to, maybe two of us can jointly build this. markets are going to come and i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i I want to reengage with it and have talked to some other communities. And just where we're at right now, I think this is pretty important, and I'd like to be part of it.

All right. Thank you.

So we got to fight it out?

You're welcome to it.

Oh. I'm gracious of you.

I'll do it with you, Chuck. All right.

Great.

Thanks, Bill. Get that commercial business in town. Exactly. Shaker Lane Building Committee. So this is a... How can I? Yeah, you and Mark. So you guys are going to stay with that?

Right up to the end?

Yeah. Then we have our transportation to Vine 3 Council 1 and 2.

I think that's now defunct.

Yeah.

All right. We won't move.

All right. There's nothing that we're not...

Anything else you guys think we need to be involved in that we're not? Or is it on this list? Or do you think we need representation to... Yeah, so I don't know if we can put that in here.

And are you continuing doing the podcast, or do you want to hand that off, or...

either yeah I mean that wasn't that wasn't a select board official thing I think you were all invited to co-host anytime you wanted you were yes you were you don't want me in front of the camera too much I usually put my invitations on the fridge Karen I have a limited limited shelf life so I do think that if you need help I'm happy to I didn't know there was an open invitation I'll be a guest yeah do it great okay yeah We'll get more. I think it was the first year, so I think we can really build upon it. I think it's definitely something that reaches more of the community and touches a lot of people that typically wouldn't watch this. Right. So it's a good synopsis. And you do have some great guests on, too.

that are critical to the times and what's going on so and then for the newsletter I mean it's not you're right it's not a liaison but yeah we do need to figure it out I think

I mean, you did it as chair. I mean, I can do it as chair unless somebody would like to do it.

I did it as chair as well.

Mark did it as chair, and we sort of worked together on it when I was vice. It's the newsletter. I did it, and Mark still helped.

And you guys are pointing at me. I'll make sure it gets done. Thank you. See, who's retired? I just need to.

Exactly.

All right. I count two. There's the editorial staff right there. If you're stuck, I mean, you can't do it. I'll be accountable for what I print.

Yeah, I mean, we did that a lot.

I don't have time. Can you write something and vice versa? Okay.

A lot of times just getting somebody else to start helps you finish. First step, sure. So, yeah.

Got it.

Let us know.

Thank you. Throw something out there. the employee appreciation committee within the town hall. We've talked about recognizing employees and that kind of thing. I'm not saying that we have to put our thumb on it, but I think it wouldn't be a bad idea for one of us to liaise with them just to find out so that we know when something's going on for employee appreciation so we can be present or we can support it.

Be put on the mailing list, basically?

Yeah, I mean, Jim's pretty much in tune with that group, so... We could ask for more updates, I guess.

Considering we're going to do an emphasis on spotlighting the departments or different employees and things of that nature, I can absolutely, when that comes up, to make sure Nancy circles in with the select board.

That would be great.

That's a good idea.

Thanks, Jim. Anything else? Good? All right.

Do you have to play Appreciation Cookout or anything like that?

Would Rotary like to be involved?

We do have that. We have that annual. Well, there's a number of different things throughout the year, like Halloween party, Christmas party, things recognizing that. But every summer, we usually have a barbecue that is in the parking lot between the library and the center on Shattuck Street. And this year, that's going to be, I believe, July 29th, 30th, 29th. 30th and where it's really just the employees coming in and employees from different departments that are that are not here housed here will drop by and and the select board is there and absolutely that's a draw

No, I'd love it to be, you know, there's nothing wrong with having two events for employees, you know, maybe a fall thing, a fall fest or something.

All right. Thank you. Thank you, Cheryl.

Thank you. We need a dunk tank.

Why does she look at me when she says that? Is that you or is that me? No, thank you.

Okay. Yeah, we'll do a blind survey to all the department heads.

We can raise money. I'll get in the tank.

Absolutely. 50 a throw. I'm good with that.

50 a throw.

I can throw in a bunch of money down with the coast of the mortgage my house thank you all right all right thank you guys for continuing and we do need a motion yes sir thank you I'm gonna look for the motion

Move the select board vote to reassign the committee member liaisons and representatives per the discussion at the June 22nd select board meeting. Second.

Moved by Mark, seconded by Kyle. All those in favor? Aye. Thank you. All right. We are. It's July 30th, right? Thursday. Flying through here. Yes.

Flood.

Okay, we're moving on to the more flock discussion, camera discussion.

We have Tom Harrington on.

Okay, so we select where it's continued discussion. our own research behind the scenes everyone's kind of been doing their own thing and we get together at these obviously this meeting and discuss more town council has been a little bit more involved but this one specifically we're going to talk more about the one at the point so that's in the agreement that's in place is this the camera does not fall in with the rest of them it's not at the same contract it's um and it's so it's a little bit different but i think um It warrants our discussion and the way forward, potentially, that we can move this, and that's why we have town council, so we can discuss that as well. So, Tom, thank you for being here. I know you shared some findings with us. You emailed out to all of us, so... I don't know if there's something you want to kick off to talk about what you thought.

Yeah, so we've been through a couple of iterations. Oh, by the way, my name is Tom Harrington. I'm town council for the town of Littleton, and it's nice to see you all tonight. So what you have before you tonight is a gift agreement wherein Sam Park would gift to the town thousand dollars a year and in return the town would have installed and would monitor a flock camera or what we refer to as the flock safety hardware on the property located at 812 Constitution Avenue in Littleton You know, the agreement kind of spells out essentially that the police control the data. Sam doesn't have access to the data. But I think the question before the board is, so since it's a gift, it would be incumbent upon the select board to accept the gift. and if you do that we would have you authorized Jim to sign on behalf of the town but recall you know we went through this issue at town meeting where town meeting there was originally I think five cameras plus this or maybe six cameras plus this in town meeting voted to amend available funds for the flock contract so we would be down to having a single flock contract or flock hardware installation and it would be all based upon a gift from Sam Park so that's that's where we are and but happy that I know you guys are all thinking about it in a lot of different ways and having to discuss and answer any questions to the best of my ability

Yeah, and just so the community knows, and I don't, Doug, I don't, I've been spot on this a little bit. That particular camera has not been utilized.

Right, we're not using a camera.

Yeah, so it's, and talking to the current chief, Chief Patterson, he said it will not be utilized until the select board makes decisions and policy decisions. So that's why, and Karen, thank you for bringing this to the table. to the front this this particular one so I'm open to discussion questions of town council as well just an initial question are we confident that the $9,000 covers if the contract is changed to one camera so it's a it's a good question I believe it's covered but I

We can circle back with Flock and make sure that's the case.

Sometimes the price changes based on how many we've got on the contract.

They had priced it out on a per-camera basis, and I didn't see anything in the contract that put an additive on a single contract. But we can double-check with them.

Who is the contract currently with?

Like, what do you mean?

Is it currently with Sam Park and Company? Oh, I see.

No, so the contract would be between Littleton Police Department and Flock.

It would be or it is currently?

Well, there is a contract, but it's currently not funded.

So the current contract covers this camera in addition to all the other cameras? I think that's Kyle's question. That's what I'm asking, yes.

It's a separate contract, correct? Correct. That camera is a separate contract.

It is. There are two contracts, one of which touched upon the five or six town council was referring to earlier, which has been unplugged. And then this is a standalone independent one that originated prior to the LELWD ones on at least the agreement side from Sam Park reaching out because of the event that happened up there

Well, there's a few events, but the city is that.

So that's reiterating Kyle's question is that separate contract is with, who are the parties in that contract?

I believe it's FLOC. And? Nope. It would be because the private entity can have nothing to do with this. It's a matter of, as Mr. Park had said from the very beginning, the data and the control and everything is on the Littleton Police Department. I'll pay for it. That's it. So the current contract has Littleton as? The police department. That would be that, yes.

Now, Mr. Parks, I know she was here, just obviously, he's interested protecting his businesses up to that most and that's why this part of why this whole thing stemmed up some of the things that were going on on its property but correct I mean I'd like to potentially have him discuss with us what his thoughts are I mean as part of the discussion on the need for that particular camera where it is I mean that that would help me understand I mean we've removed or we've shut off basically all the other cameras but I am sensitive to the, me personally, I'm sensitive to that particular camera, the one-point access to that, our commercial hub, basically, right now, in Littleton. And what would be his plan if we just said, no, we're not using that camera? What would be his concern? What would be his plan? I mean, what's his next...

I'm sure he would concur with the board. I mean, this was originated because of the lewd event that took place in addition to the burning of all the Tesla and things of that nature. But it was really the lewd event that really he was incensed about and reached out to me and said, I want to be able to do something. And And this was the conversation that ensued with the flock hammer for that. But if it's the wish of the select board, I'm sure he would say, okay, fine. But he would like to do something to make people feel a little safer there.

I mean, what do you, how does the board feel about, what separates this camera or should it be? I mean, we're still working to decide if we can create some type of a policy for control of data and all of those concerns that the public and our concerns do. Is that camera different? I mean, are we just gonna, we need to remain it gets kind of lumped in with the other ones until we can figure out how we want to move forward, if at all.

I'll go first, but I do think this camera is different in that it's on private property. That is certain. So that makes the camera different. That doesn't mean that we don't follow the same policy on the use of the data that we would have on a public camera and that we need that policy before this camera would be turned on. But the camera itself is different because you are on private property.

So I guess these type of cameras, the photographic piece is... You know, I would use it, it's probably the ones that you see where it doesn't involve the police in some communities. It's where communities have a mall and they have a security office and they're the ones that have the data and their flock is feeding their data and they're in control. So that's what Sam Park doesn't have a security office up there. He doesn't have a team up there, and that's why I think the origins of this were... I'm not going to put a security office in. It's right there. If you guys want to monitor it, please.

Even if he didn't have a security office up there, he would still have the ability to... He has a management team for the area. that they would have access or they would be able to see, and he wanted nothing of that. Absolutely everything for the police department.

I guess I'm not quite understanding that. Private businesses are responsible for the security on their private property, typically. I'm just sort of fundamentally at odds with this idea that a private business can say the safety of my property is now the town's concern and I'm not going to do anything about security on my property unless the town is also going to put in manpower on it. I fundamentally have a problem with that. I also question, you know, who else are we willing to cover? We've got a huge development coming into town. If the new developer says, well, yeah, you know, I don't want to monitor my own cameras either.

Well, they can't. With the flock, they can't, from what I gather. I'll look to town council, but with the data and the activity that it's only overseen by a law enforcement agency. Am I correct, Tom?

Yeah, that's correct. I believe it's because of the license plate reading technology that it can only be accessed by a police department.

So then I'm confused as how a private business entity was able to procure a flock camera, unless it was in agreement with the police department at the time that basically said, hey, if I add this one more flock camera and I pay for it, will you monitor it?

Which is not monitored. It's only looked at if something happens.

If something happens.

It's never been used.

Well, if it's on, it's being used.

But I'm just saying it hasn't been. I don't believe it's ever been used, has it? I don't believe so. Yeah.

If I'm... Yeah, and it's not monitored. My understanding is it's more of an investigative tool after the fact that an incident would occur and there might be some recourse afterwards that we could, you know, identify suspects and things like that and get property back if stolen and more as an investigative tool.

So to Karen's point, if, you know, Mr. LaPolle came in front of us and said we'd like to put flock cameras over there, are we wanting to do it? If Amazon came in front of us and said, we want the clock cameras over there, are we going to do it?

On 550 King Street, we have public-private. Those roads are going to be...

They're private. They're all private.

Yep.

The entire complex is private. There's no plan for any public road over there.

No, in order for us to get the mass works grants, we had to have skin in the infrastructure.

I mean, even that being said, I think, you know, this is one of those, you know, I talk about ballot. It's the best way for our community to be able to, you know, and it can be a survey question to the, it would help me as a public official to, you know, we hear, we've had people in front of the camera talk about, you know, in a town meeting but what happened at town meeting and I'm very cognizant of fact typically when we bring something to town meeting that's a warrants discussion you have a presentation of the positive and the negative well all we got there was the removal of a budget and we didn't there was no other discussion and that's that's what's missing in this whole this whole picture so something though that i think if we got in front of this with a a survey question on the ballot and i i'll let the town clerk maybe speak to that where you have the and i've seen it with other things that those have been here that you have the one page the positive about something and then the whole other page is the negative and then you vote and it's not it doesn't hold any bearing you know as to what we're going to do but it helps the public officials get an idea of where the community kind of sits on any given thing I think that might be an avenue that we we pursue with something like this because I know we all have our reservations and I we can we absolutely can keep this locked down forever you know I mean if we cannot find a way to control you know get a high level of confidence that the data is being controlled whether that's through our police department because it seems like our community has a much higher level of trust in our police department than it would any outside agency but what's the process of them sharing that information with other officials you know fed would be at federal or state or whatever and that's what interests me if we are going to have it then how much control a does the select board potentially have over that or what's the process that the police department has to go through before they release anything what's the notification to us or to the town manager, the town assistance administrator's office. I don't, that's the type of stuff outside of the data. And I know you've brought some of the data concerns that can the data be sold? And, you know, for every negative thing I see online, which I hate being the Google guy, but you can find the positive. It's harder, but you can find the stuff that debunks some of the hysteria behind it. And I'm seeing more and more of that. You know, I was looking at Waltham recently, just had a very serious incident where they used their flock to assist in the arrest of somebody so and that we all know that just positives to everything it's it's the the deep negative that we have to weigh right um i mean the five of us have to wait is the public safety part potential use to this, does it thoroughly outweigh the negative potential of this?

I mean, outside of taking Flock out of it, I'm concerned about setting the precedent that if any private business owner, let's say the town says we're OK with Flock. If we do this, I think it sets the precedent that any private business owner, if you want the police department to have investigative access, just fund a flock camera. Not that I'm saying we're going to monitor it 24-7. I know that's not what we would be doing, but it sets a precedent for future private developments to save. Is that a bad thing? Why not have them fund their own closed circuit TV cameras instead?

They can fund their own flock cameras. I'm not understanding the idea that...

They can't.

Yes, they can. HOAs have flock contracts. Private banks have flock contracts. I don't know why Sam Park couldn't have a flock contract.

I mean, that doesn't make me feel any better. Okay, so. I mean, the public's sitting here, we don't like it or we like it. But now they're all over every, you know.

I mean, it's right here on their website. Yeah, I know.

I think to your point, we need more information to make it well-informed. We do.

That's where we're working through. I just think this was a discussion that because that camera is separate. Yeah, I mean.

You're right.

You mentioned it to me. Well, what if we put one up, you know, at all the different private places and that same question.

Right.

this kind of argument was okay and that's it's because it's the I was concerned also about the resourcing and all of that but from what I've seen that it's been used for and I've seen the negative this stuff that it can be used for as well but potentially but the positives are something happens it a identification of a vehicle be it somebody got a picture of the back of a vehicle or a witness, that vehicle goes from here to northern New Hampshire. You punch in a license plate in the computer, and it ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping. You can see where that car has been and where it was last seen.

But you shouldn't be able to inform policies if we're not sharing the data. Correct.

So this is – and here's the – That's the point.

And honestly, there's no need for a flock camera at the point. There needs a closed circuit camera. There doesn't need to be a license plate reading camera.

And Karen and I talked a little bit about that. We talked to Chief Patterson over the summer to have him come in or part of his team come in and discuss closed circuit. Whether we have to get a professional in here with them. Just to discuss the closed circuit that Littleton would obviously have full access to. What's the negatives to it? The resourcing of something like that. Obviously, that's a live video. The storage of that information. How far back it can reach. Things like that. But just... I'm dumb to it, and I just want to see personally what CCTV is compared to the flock when it comes to protecting Littleton citizenry, their data, and their liberty. That's kind of where I'm at with CCTV, and if it's a good replacement as far as that goes, great. It's probably not going to help state police or federal law enforcement do what, you know, Flock can do in an instant, but relative to keeping Littleton safe in our community, I think that it could be a viable option. I just don't know. And that's why I wanted a presentation over the summer to kind of see the two.

So the other question is if we're going to, let's just say we throw Flock out and we're doing a closed circuit camera, are we opening up the police department to providing services for all businesses for closed circuit I don't think so I mean I think in an investigation I would have to have said that the police department would go to the owner of the data and say hey do you have the tapes for this right but are we going to say that you know if you give us money we will be monitoring these because we're setting a precedent with this for Sam Park I see what you're saying

Well, we haven't yet. I think we're not going to take public comment yet.

If we do.

Sure.

This was taken this morning in the town center. That's a camera. What is that? It's right next to the Red Cross Street.

We're having a discussion. Actually, on the side, go and ask Doug. Maybe he can identify it. Looks like my trail cam in my backyard.

And I also would be concerned, wherever this flock thing goes, if we approved this today within a town meeting or wherever we had the discussion of the yay or nay to flock, if we say no, then all of these cameras are essentially they need to be removed anyway.

right so just don't know that appropriate yeah I don't I'm not in a rush to like to rip them off the polls or anything I think that there could come a time for that we don't know I don't know what the future brings here because I don't have enough knowledge I don't know you know it's federal the federal part going to get more control over this or are we going to just completely say no more private contracts for with this type of data or Those are the things I think that the community brought to us that their serious concerns were. Outside of data, there was a pretty good list. So we're not going to turn, this camera is not being turned on today. I mean, we didn't put it on here to vote. It's a discussion. I don't think, I'm not comfortable saying that that camera is a go because we don't have a policy on other. Right, right. So it's going to sit there until we can figure out how to manage the rest of it.

My concern, the reason that I brought this forward, and you're right, the timing isn't right to make a decision on this camera, but so far the discussion has been surrounding all the other cameras except the Sand Park camera. And so I wanted us to start filling in the discussion on the Sand Park camera. And do it in a public way so that we can continue that discussion. Certainly, no, I wouldn't expect us to make any decisions about this right now. I just keep coming back to Why is the public involved in this? I would have concerns if I were somebody who was vehemently against block cameras. and my town, and we had made clear that we didn't want flock cameras funded publicly, and the town entered into a bunch of private agreements to get them gifted, I would feel- A circumvention. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I would feel undermined, and so that's the other part of this that I think we need to think through carefully.

Yeah, I agree.

Tom, I have a couple questions for you specifically on the agreement. On item three, the last line says, I understand I'm known circumstances, blah, blah, blah, until April 29th, unless the town's contract with FLOC is terminated early or renewed. Is that or renewed or not renewed?

So you've got a three-year contract.

Yep.

You have the right to terminate early if you choose to. Yep. So by renewed, we mean enter into another contract for the same purpose. So if we renew it, then...

This extends.

You know, we do a three-year contract, and then we would do another three-year contract.

Okay. It's kind of confusing on how that's worded for me, at least. And then item four says we're under no obligation to replace hardware that's lost, stolen, or damaged. Correct. Is anyone under obligation? And if their hardware is lost, stolen, or damaged, is he under obligation to continue paying us the gift?

So if it's... Well, I guess in the first instance, we don't have to replace it if it's lost, stolen, or damaged. If Sam Park chooses to replace it, then we would continue with our side of the agreement. Is that your question?

Let's say that Sam Park signs the agreement and then tomorrow someone damages the camera and Sam Park chooses not to talk to Flock about getting a new camera. Is he still liable to pay us the remaining money?

I don't think he is if he's not getting the service now.

I don't know how he gets out of it, though. That's the question, then. If the camera's no longer operational, Right. There's no out for him.

You want to build in an out for him?

But if the camera's not operational, I don't know why he's going to continue to pay. We're going to be in this weird situation.

Is the concern that somebody damages the camera, or the camera is damaged, and then we are still on the hook for the remaining, let's say, $6,000, and Sam Park isn't?

It's not being used. Why am I going to pay?

Yeah. We have the ability to... Terminate the contract with 30 days notice throughout the- Okay.

And we don't have to return an operable camera to them or anything? That's comfortable.

I don't think so. Well, in fact, I think insurance would cover it, but I will check into that.

There's insurance too, yeah.

Our insurance or his insurance? His insurance. His insurance.

okay the other thing so i what do you guys think that that early discussion i had with um a we all have very strong opinions on this and i i know and it both ways and i you know i'm kind of i get both in my own household i have we're split on on you know whether we're leaning this way the other way but i think this is for me and it's i'm not passing the buck but i i The 121 individuals, well, actually, I don't know what the percentage of the vote was, but they were there. It didn't have information on what exactly flock is, the positives versus the negatives. We weren't able to have a discussion. I think I'd rather get that in front of a large group through community engagement and then at a ballot meeting. which is not binding by any means, but it gives us more information, right, to see, okay, well, here's, you know, the public is obviously very much against this, whereas I sense it probably is, and it's why we're not sitting here voting to turn them on. We're listening, but it's, I just don't, I don't know. I didn't know what a flock camera was until early before that meeting, maybe a week. And shame on me. But I think we have a lot more work to do as a board. Like I said, the CCTV, having the police come in and give us potentially some options that we have much more control over data and information. and it still doesn't solve your civil liberty questions. A lot of people have that, and I truly, believe me, understand that. But I also know just me carrying around this, I could be found anywhere in the universe. So you're being tracked. But I think that technology, there's enough out there proving that it can be dangerous, especially in the hands of a private entity, right? A private ownership of it. If that's the concern.

So I think if you put this out to a vote, it's going to, you're going to, it's going to, majority are not going to support it. I'd be willing to bet it's at least 60 to 70% are going to say we don't want any cameras.

People spoke it.

But that doesn't solve the problem that we're trying, well, it solves one of the problems with Sam Park, but we say, no, we're not supporting a flock camera, but we still are back to square one of him not having cameras, right?

And how we help.

Which we pushed him to install. He needs security there. This was the quick and dirty solution to get there. The question is, do we want this solution or some other solution? And how we get to another solution.

I mean, we're blessed. I know it's a traffic nightmare there a little bit sometimes, but... One egress in and out in a major commercial area hub of a town is a pretty good thing to have when it comes to security. It's just how do we, or he, move forward and this was this was his way to move forward and I think the chief chief Bernard at that time was like this is a great this is a good great plan we'll be able to you know monitor when something happens we can timestamp something see what happened boom and figure it out but we've dug a little deeper in this and it goes let's can get much more darker I don't have an answer to besides bringing He's not the only private mall, if you will, in the state. So what's everybody doing?

They have their own cameras, and they will monitor them.

Through a security office, right?

Through a security office, whether they're flock or private.

But that's not making anyone in the public feel uncomfortable. Mr. Sanders, I was just reminded that you had your hand up. Take a comment on this.

We're standing at 672 Great Road. Mr. Chairman, this matter is something that I certainly have some strong feelings about. First of all, the town is an entity of itself. Mr. Park Complex up there. It's another entity It's a private entity. I Don't think the town Need to be doing anything For their private industry over there He donating $3,000 is a way to say okay. Well, I'll donate this you can buy a camera, you know, you can monitor and so forth We don't need to be doing his work Let him spend the money to put in his security like other malls have in the state of Massachusetts. They got their own security that's patrolling. There's no reason for the town to get mingled into something like this with him or either with 550 or 410. If we're going to put something in, first and foremost, we the citizens of this town should have known as to what was coming about and we should have been told about and not found out at the town meeting when someone says, no, we're not gonna fund it. That was wrong to the citizens in this town. First and foremost, you have to justify the security that you're wanting to put in the town, and we the citizens need to understand it fully as to why you're putting this in.

We're working on it.

So that we know what is going on, and we can support what we think that you're saying that we need here as a community. Unless you get that down, patent, and tell us, first and foremost, why we need it, that's the first thing. Before we started talking about any funding. But when it comes to these private entities, No, the town should not be involved with it. Thank you.

I think, you know, George brings up points. We've heard that sentiment. I just think that this board, we don't have the luxury necessarily to come from that voice completely. We have to weigh public safety versus liberty in some regards, which is really what we're talking about here. I'm not looking at the point as something special or you should have cameras on the point. I don't want them. That doesn't help my comfort level of the public safety of our people that are going and moving up there. He can just say, no, we're not doing anything. Right? He could. That doesn't solve some of the issues we've had up there, and I would think that it's not going to solve some of the issues that we're going to have on the LaPolle property once we have that.

Go ahead. I just kind of had some comments I wanted to say, but on the tail end of what you're saying there, there was nothing nefarious by Chief Bernard getting on board and saw the positives, saw this as an asset and an aid to his department to be able to protect our citizenry and the 50,000 people that come through Littleton on a daily basis. So I just... I think of my younger days, there was a drug called Vioxx that was a wonder drug for my osteoarthritis and I felt... Like a million bucks. Then they said, yeah, stop taking the Vioxx because we just found out that that kills you. It's not bad. And I kind of feel like that's sort of the same conversation here. Flock, it was sold as this great aid to law enforcement. We're starting to peel the onion a little bit and see that maybe it's not the greatest thing in the world, but maybe there is something else that's going to come down the road that will be that tool that law enforcement can use. And it has proven to be effective. The Brown shooting, there's a lot of positive, which I believe Chief Bernard, that's what he was looking at. That's kind of... bill of goods that he bought. And as our chief law enforcement officer and our senior law enforcement officer in Littleton, I mean, I trust every one of our department heads. I trust that they're in a position because they're the professional. And so I trust that he made that decision based upon the information that he had. And I just don't want people going down that road where we bamboozled anybody.

No, his lack of judgment in this was not informing the five board members up here of giving us a presentation. So we fully understood it, and we could have had the debate. They probably... We'd be having this debate however long.

Six months ago.

Yeah. So I agree there was nothing nefarious.

Thank you, Mark. Can I put Lieutenant on the spot?

You stayed here. You're in trouble.

I know what you're doing. Do we have contracts with other private entities where we're monitoring their cameras?

No. Not that I believe. No. You know, and the cameras, you know, as an investigative tool, as I know it, as I understand, with Flock is, you know, the benefit to it is of that Flock system of, you know, Groton has it, Ayer has it in the sharing, and you can find someone who does a crime in Littleton and goes back to Connecticut and the investigative tool of that. So there are cameras at the point. If there is a crime in Market Basket or a medical in Market Basket... We go and we work with our Market Basket private partner and we get the video and they put it on hard drive and they give it to our detectives and we eventually get it. They're not plate readers, so they're not tracking. They're not giving the demographic kind of residential area of things like that from like a video here. So it's a faster expedient tool for us to work through some of the issues that we find in law enforcement. with the sharing aspect of it, the pictures of the vehicles. Sometimes the cameras are good. They've got nice, clear video, and sometimes all the businesses don't have that. So we do go and get the video, but it's that type of crime where an elderly person drives off and we want to know which direction they went. We can say, all right, they're they're gone this way or god forbid a kidnapping and we're looking just really to get ahead of those things really fast real quick it's the benefit of the tool versus having to you know sorry my manager's not in today i can get you that video on tuesday and you know we run into that and on tuesday sometimes is some sometimes too late so um that's what to speak to that so

to say more positives on the flock, if this contract is for one camera and it's isolated, then why isn't Sam Park just paying for it? And then we sign a contract or an agreement with Sam Park where he forks over his rights to the cameras to just the police department. So now we don't have to worry about Sam Park doing whatever he wants with the data. We're more protected in our use of the data, right, because we can control it. We can put the camera in a way that it only can see people going in and out of the point and nothing on 119. And then that would actually be better because you can't stop Sam Park from putting up a Flock camera.

As I know it, he wanted nothing to do with the access of the information. He was happy. He knew the other ones were going in. He was happy to help us out.

So the question is, is there any reason that this contract with Flock is with Littleton rather than with Sam Park?

Other than Sam Park not wanting that.

Not wanting the camera or the data? Not wanting to run access. He understood the license plate reader and the information that was given wasn't something that, you know, it was something he understood the police department should control. Right.

But Chief Pinar made it perfectly clear to me. It has to be, the contract has to be with the law enforcement agency. That's the way he explained it to me. It can't be with Sam Park. It can't be with a private entity because there's no control. I'm just repeating what I was told.

Maybe it's because municipalities will only set their settings to only share with other municipalities, for example, and not with private entities.

I'd have to look into it myself.

It could be a matter of who they... how useful it is in terms of the network. That would make sense. Can I jump in?

Yes. So I've never talked to the people at Flock. And it would be interesting to do so, and I'd be happy to do so. So what they're doing is they're taking a picture of a vehicle and a license plate. Anyone can do that. That's nothing anyone needs special permission to do. I think, at least in Massachusetts, What requires LPD to be involved is the access to the registry of motor vehicles to find out who owns that vehicle. That's the piece that needs to stay, at least I think in Massachusetts, with the government entity. So it's quite possible that Sam can have the camera He just can't use the data set for anything other than...

It'd be like us just taking a picture with a camera of a car going by. What do we do with it?

We don't have any... And the police can go and ask Sam for that information, and then the police can run the plate, right? But Sam can't run the plate, basically.

Right. But I think part of the flock feature is the instantaneous nature. They have I think they call them hot lists, where a list of stolen cars or people that the police are looking for, and they're You know, if they get a read on that plate, then it pops something at the police station, if the police station wanted to pop something, to say this guy is now at the point.

There's a number of features, too, that Flock can do for you that we weren't going to opt into. Like, for example, like there are some departments that right on their MDT and their cruiser, their laptops, if I'm just on patrol on Goldsmith Street, it would just tell me a stolen car came into town. or it would just tell all our officers that, and we could all go, or there's an Amber Alert car in town, or there's the plate reader, and those are options that we weren't going to opt into. Our policy that we had written was more investigative, and it was only our detectives, the detective sergeant had access to it, so if we had an incident that occurred, He alone would be going into that platform and working through that investigation. Our patrol officers weren't going to get it, like, the immediate picture and the hot list and things like that that we're speaking to. But, yeah.

You don't want to come. We're going to probably have you guys in front of us.

I think it's a good opportunity. I'd be happy to come and speak to one. I personally, admittedly, have to do a little bit more investigating on the flock myself. I have partners in the region that use it, and they have success with it, but I'm totally understanding of the town side of it as well. So I think a public forum or some kind of town hall or something that we can... All come together, everyone, all the stakeholders, I'm happy to participate. For sure. Thank you. Thanks, Lieutenant.

If I may, through the chair, if I can ask the Lieutenant. So to have that capability to understand when a stolen car came into the town limits or anything, we would get an alert. Isn't that... Why wouldn't a police department want to have that access?

Yeah, it's a good tool for us. I mean, it's just something, again, I think we're being sensitive to the town at the time. I think Chief Bernard was. Makes sense. You know, kind of looking at that and... maybe trying to get ahead of some of this in some way. Just kind of limiting the oversight or making sure the oversight was there and it was used the right way. But yeah, it's a good tool. I mean, for example, if it was live monitoring, I'm sure if another town was looking for a vehicle and it came into our region, we would all be notified. and obviously a good tool depending on the situation, but happy to work with the town and figure out the best case scenario for the system if we'd offer it. Thank you.

Thanks. Yeah, of course. Thanks, Lieutenant.

so we're really this is just another cog in our discussion I think yeah we got to keep moving this forward and it will I like I said you talked we're gonna have presentation over the summer just more details on some of the CCTV so we can have some of those questions on their technology available it's almost like waiting for more technology become available that we can get away from the private piece to this, but I don't know if that's going to happen anytime soon. All right. Any others?

Good discussion.

Thank you.

I can provide one answer for a question Mark asked. So the question, if the clock hardware were stolen, we are not required to replace it, but if we want to reinstall the camera, we would be required to pay for that.

and just so you know that the attorney Harrington also he shared information with us in communities that have passed bylaws so if we want to end up going that route what the bylaws look like on know basically how you how you how we would craft language and things like that going forward so yeah that was I guess your your your email you shared with us of I think at the time one of the towns the bylaws that are being passed at some communities in the state does any of that involve private entity private property no it only involves police access to the information all right thank you in in public

With cameras that are placed in public, not on any private property.

Right. Yeah, you could have cameras all over the place. regardless of where the camera is placed thanks don't all right thank you I think some of the community some of the deepest concerns are flock itself not being not a police all right thank you thanks Tom good stuff though guys thank you the discussion Vote to authorize the town administrator to sign the intermunicipal agreement, IMA, with the town of Boxborough and Littleton Community Television. So I have that in front of me. I don't know if everybody's seen it.

Just if I may, Mr. Chairman. Is it annual? It's every three years. Every three years, that's right. I should know that. But I would like to shout out to Mark Quarry, who did a good job. The costs associated are a little tighter. than they have been in years past, and it was as a direct result of Mark recognizing a difference in personnel and the salaries are different. They're lower of the people that are taking, you know, that are working down there, so that is affecting the cost here. So Box Bar will be paying a little bit less than they have in years past. kudos to Mark for for doing that but Mark and I met with the assistant town administrator the other day quickly he had possession of it well in advance he reviewed it with the town administrator there and members on the select board and it was acceptable to them but I told him we would they're not meeting I believe and Select board here, Littleton select board is meeting first. So I said, okay, we'll put it on for that.

So my concern is that not the actual amounts, but the increases, I don't think between the years are as high enough, right? It's like a five or 6% increase, which doesn't cover the cost increase for us, right? That's not covering the increase that the town will pay for a staff. With POLA, STEP, health insurance, retirement, we're saying that to 6% per employee per year? Cost increase? That seems really low.

Okay.

I'd like to have Mark. Mark's going to come out and speak to this.

There's also a... a clause in the contract that we can look at it each year we find that the costs aren't high enough we can adjust it on the fly so we're not locked into those those are just based on numbers that accounting gave me for figuring out something so but if it goes up 20 percent we can go to them and say it went up 20 percent there's that option thank you thanks mark

Yeah, that is the big one, right, the insurance, as we all know. Any other discussion on that particular contract? The MOA or Boxborough. A lot of MOAs with Boxborough these days. IMOs. IMAs. IMAs.

Is that where you got that? No.

Let's move the select board vote to authorize the town administrator to sign an intermunicipal agreement IMA with the town of Boxborough and Littleton Community Television. Second. Second.

Moved by Mark, seconded by Chuck. All those in favor? Aye. Thank you, guys. Accept the letter from the Park and Recreation Commission declaring a member vacancy and set a meeting date to make a joint appointment for a new member. Thank you. Okay. So they have a vacancy and we need to set a date to meet to appoint someone.

Well, I believe, Mr. Chairman, that the date isn't set until there is a submission of a vote from any interest.

Okay, that's how it's going to be. Is there somebody that they want to meet for?

Not that I'm aware of. Say that again?

No.

So, if I may, they had to legally send you that letter stating that there was an opening. There was an opening, okay. There was an opening because it is an elected position. Kate was elected. They legally have to take that vote. sign it and send it to you that there is a vacancy. The date that you make the joint appointment is based on when you actually get an application and there is at this point no application.

So this is something we can actually

put on this and any agenda on it correct when you were notified exactly then this is how we do it for the planning board vacancy right we said applications had to be due by because it was based on we knew that we had an application because we knew that

When Anna resigned, we have three, Margo. Margo.

Margo, thank you, was applying. So we already knew that we had somebody who was going to apply for the position. We also knew that it was, we had a short window. in order to get that person into position, in order to fulfill that three-month time frame. Yeah, before the election. Very short time frame. This is a little bit different because we do have until May of next year. However, they want to be able to try and find somebody, so we need to be able to put that... out to the people so that somebody can actually apply sooner rather than later. And we do have a little bit of time, but you know.

But shouldn't we set? Shouldn't we say that applications are accepted until July 15th?

Yeah, well usually we say 21 days from tonight that we're looking for applications. Yeah, it's usually 21 days.

So we are effectively setting a date and a meeting.

And if there's no applications, then we... You would extend the... Yeah, but usually the time frame for the applications is 21 days. But the date of your meeting, if you don't get any... application doesn't, if you would set a date, 22 days from, you know. You wouldn't be able to do it. So you might have to extend that application date.

Okay. So, but we are setting a date certain that applications are expected by?

Yeah, when you put out that application. Just like on all those vacancies. You would put it at the bottom saying it's a joint appointment.

I just didn't want to be first come, first serve. There's a date.

Yeah, 21 days. Okay. So it'll put up on the bulletin board and on the website tomorrow.

Okay. Do we need to vote on this, though? I don't...

I mean, it's... Just... At the joint meeting, we're going to request... You're just accepting the letter from the Parks and Recreation that there is a vacancy and that it will be posted... That's their legal responsibility to us.

Putting us on notice.

Yes.

We don't. There is no action until we have to make a decision. All right. Thank you. Next up, town administrator update.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, members of the select board. A couple things here. T.J. Maxx, speaking of the point. T.J. Maxx is opening a camera store by the end of July. Bad joke. Bad joke.

I know where you're going with that.

T.J. Maxx will be opening, the real T.J. Maxx, will open at the end of July at the point, and Barnes & Noble is looking for opening in August.

It could push back a little bit.

A little bit. DPW is going to begin their single streaming recycling on July 1st of this year. And also all departments will start their capital improvement plan. for July 1st, and that will be due at the end of July, on July 31st, as we go into the budget season. Yes, we are talking that already. We haven't even hit the new budget yet. Also, some impressive things on behalf of the town of Littleton and just the way everyone really has, through the Select Board, the Finance Committee, Public Employee Retirement Administration Commission, it's also referred to as PARAC. They gave us their annual report saying the strong progress of Littleton. Let me just quote, Littleton's funded ratio has increased significantly over the past several years, rising from 44.1% in 2020 to approximately 79% today. This places the town among the stronger funded municipal OPEB programs. OPEB, for those of you that don't know that, is an acronym for Other Post-Employment Benefits. That's essentially retirees. programs in Massachusetts. By proactively funding these obligations today, Littleton helps protect future taxpayers, strengthens its long-term financial stability, and ensures that commitments made to current and future retirees can be met responsibly. So outstanding job by everybody here over the years. We have Route 119, the 119 bridge over 495, as we know, going a great road. That is going to be DOT is working with LELWD. and the town in regards to expansion of that and making it a little bit wider and more friendly for pedestrians, whether it be bicycles, walking, things of that nature. And that project continues to move forward. What about the monorail from the point to 550?

It was not.

No, it's going to be a subway. It was what they're doing at Stone Mountain. We're not doing it. Aquatics on it.

MassDOT awarded a $96,690 grant to relaunch the regional transportation program. It's the Crosstown Connect that the town is familiar with. It's Connect Transportation Management Association to relaunch its regional transportation program serving Acton, Concord, Littleton, Main and Stowe. And so we're excited about that. We also have, as part of the project coordinator, what we've done to enhance some outreach, a number of different things, especially highlighting the town. Nancy has met with Tony and Mark Quarry about Town of Littleton video. I know that there was one that was done some years ago. We want to just build on that and freshen that up to put that out there. We started employee profiles and assessors is going to be the first one for the social media or in the newsletter. Sent out the 2026 town meeting feedback survey. And we also created a business spotlight flyer and slash letter in which that I hand out as I go out to the businesses in town. And I have scheduled, I am scheduled to go out every week for approximately two hours with a designated area. And this week it's Wednesday. Nancy, we also have our project coordinator going through the website pages to make corrections and enhancements. Also, add social media enhancements to our newsletter. Lastly, Nancy has signed up for the Mass. Municipal Association webinar, How to Master a Website Refresh. So a lot of great stuff going on. And we invite the select board to take a tour of the second floor.

You're all very, very instrumental.

I should have mentioned that I did take one. You did? Yeah. It's unrecognized.

It's very, very appreciative. The staff is very, very happy, and it's a great working environment. It's fantastic, and everyone wants to thank the Select Board for that support and that initiative on your part. And that's it.

Thank you, Jim.

We should have Mr. Yonley on your podcast to talk about the transfer station and the paving going around.

That's a great idea. Maybe you should co-host.

comedy sketch. All right, we have minutes. Winding it up here, guys. Approved minutes for June 8th, 2026. Looking for discussion, corrections, additions. Very good.

Move the sub board vote to approve the meeting minutes from the second board meeting on June 8, 2026. Second.

Moved by Mark, second by Chuck. All those in favor? Aye. There's no other business. We will look for a motion to adjourn.

Are we meeting again before the 4th?

Let's discuss really quick. Are we meeting before the 4th? We are meeting. One more time. Correct the 30th.

We have our retreat in the

yes all right so what we what we have decided I will bring that up because that is important we do have our select board retreat on next 30 it's Tuesday it's a Tuesday so next Tuesday right after the select board retreats which is from 12 to 4 we typically go off site for that and then we'll be meeting back here at 415 to do a single item agenda to discuss and interview quasi interview the next police chief so we will be introducing that individual on potential individual pending contract negotiations all that but it's kind of a come and meet and discuss with the chief, our selection for chief and how we're gonna move forward. And we have a list of questions that you're welcome to listen in on from the public and get a good feel for where Littleton's headed with our new chief. So I can't get too much into detail because it wasn't an agenda item, but we did meet in an executive session, so I think we can talk about it. That was part of our executive session tonight. So we have a plan to move forward. and we will have that meeting on the 30th, so please come and meet your next potential chief on June 30th at 4.15. Thank you.

Motion to adjourn? Second.

Moved by Mark, seconded by Chuck. All those in favor? Aye. Thank you, Littleton. Have a good night.