Parks and Arts Commission - Regular Meeting

Good afternoon. This is the City of Liberty Lake Parks and Arts Commission meeting. Today is Monday, July 7, 2025. It's 4:00 p.m. We'll get things started by the call to order going through the commissioners. Nancy Hill, that's me, present. I show David Heimba absent. Laura Frank is in route. Katie Ferris present. John Bar is going to be absent. Noel Otter Laarco present. Bob Schneidermiller present. Joanie Haye present. Gary Edwards, is he online? No. Okay. No Gary as of now. Our student commissioner position is currently still vacant. And staff today we have Muel Stevens, Derek Kazinski, and Jen Camp. Next on our agenda is the approval of the June 2nd, 2025 meeting minutes. Does anyone have uh a chance to review those? And if so, do you have any questions, comments, additions? Um if not, we'll need a motion to approve. And for the record, uh, please show that, uh, Laura Frank is present. I move we approve the minutes. We have a second. Thank you, Noel. It's been moved by Katie, seconded by Noel to approve the minutes of the June 2nd, 2025 meeting. All in favor? I I opposed. Please show the motion has passed unanimously. Next we have citizen comments. Come up to the podium. Yeah.

And if you could just state your name for the record and if you are a resident of the city or not. Yes. Yes. My name is Mara Larson and I am a resident. I've been a resident for almost 40 years. Yikes. Um I have presented to the city council before but never the parks and wreck. Um, I was at a meeting the other day with Jen and McKill and I just shared a project that came to be with our light up Liberty Lake um, committee um, together with Liberty Lake Better Together Foundation and we have one member that's very passionate and she had submitted a grant to UMqua Bank um, to see if we could get money for it and I knew at some point we would need to address this with the parks and wreck but we don't know if we have the funds yet and The project is um uh the idea is to have um a rock garden and have um children in our community through the school system um you know do art projects. So at the younger age levels, we'd have rocks painted and and or families, you know, could do this and be placed in this community garden and then the upper grades could be responsible for community service and taking care of this and making the CL, you know, clean and no naughty rocks and so forth. So anyway, um I just I don't really have a presentation, but what I told Jen and McKill was that I would come share with you and I have a couple pictures. Um it's some uh a rock garden in Oceanside and my grandsons came to visit and they loved um partaking in painting rocks and placing them in this community rock garden and people just come from all over to look at this rock garden. is quite special. So, with no further ado, do you want me to just

share these with you, Nancy, or That would be great. How How big is the rock garden? Um, it's um it it kind of depends and I don't know where we would place it here if we did it, but um and these are This gives you more idea, I guess. Oh, wow. And then up close. That's cool. Yeah. Why don't you You want to Sure. Take it around. Yeah, take it around. So, but I just thought, you know, it could be something fun that um the heart and kids would really, I think, get a kick out of this. Certainly a pretty simple, easy project if we have a good place to put it. Exactly. Did you do it? Would this be like a class they would take like at the beginning of the summer or something? Yeah, just so you um that part we'd have to work out, but I do think it could be something where an art dosent uh person at the school could help. And again, I don't know if we have the funds, you know, from Umqua what what it would require, but she put quite an extensive um packet together that she submitted to Umqua. Fingers crossed we get it and then from there I I just don't know. But it's interesting you're bringing that up because at our barefoot in the park event on August 2nd is it that in the pavilion park it's the community kind of summer event and parks and arts is having a booth and we usually get feedback on a project like our pavilion playground replacement project is what we're looking for now. But we have a rock painting station in our booth to draw people in. And mostly it's kids but even some adults. Can I paint a rock? And you know, you could do stuff like that and it could be placed, you know, even in a community rock garden. Yeah,

it's a great idea, Nancy. Um, I was going to say, Mara, I already teach a kids art class and have taught at both elementary schools and would be more than happy to volunteer my time if this is something that we want to move forward with. Oh, that could be wonderful. I think that would be wonderful. So um next steps what what would we do just wait to see from UMqua and then come back? How do I proceed from here? Yeah, I would think if if you hear back from Enqua, we do have a formal project request form that has the details on the project and then that's a way of us formally uh you know looking at it and approving it. Okay. And we could uh you know we could make it it's it's pretty simple. Jen can email you the the form. How do you know how soon you're going to be hearing from me? It sounded like it wasn't until August sometime. Yeah. So, it would be um wonderful to get it started for the school start of this school year and and look ahead into the school year to bring the kids on board. we get you the the project approval form and you can fill that out and then once you know then it'll be all ready to go and you can submit it and okay um you know we can get you on an agenda again. Okay, thank you so much for your time. Well, thanks for thank you Mara. Such a great part of this community. Um Evan, is there any citizens online? for citizen comments. Okay, seeing no other citizen comments, we'll move forward on our next item, which is our budget um process. And uh I know we're going to have a lot to talk about and kick around, but Laura, I just want to put you on the spot for a

minute. I know that you've been uh leading the charge on getting uh sculpture projects up and running. And as we, you know, go into our decision-m process, maybe you can give us just a little overview of how that's gone. Well, as I think everyone in this room is aware, it's been a little challenging. Um, the the feedback has been minimal. We've we've put out the call twice now, and each time we've received one response. So, I feel like it would be prudent for us to maybe put a pause on the sculpture ideas, especially the roundabout one until maybe we've done a little more work on how to better form those relationships and how to better execute our calls. I know, you know, Karen came and talked to us and had some great ideas. Um, and I think we just need to maybe work on developing those personal relationships first and letting them see that we're serious about implementing these projects. And I don't know, I'm I'm kind of at a at a loss. I think the the feedback that I've gotten is that our our budgets are adequate. Um, so I think it's really a matter of forming the those relationships and finding the right fit for those projects. I don't want to necessarily just force something through. I guess I want to make sure that we're being thoughtful in the decisions and and that it's the right artist for the right project. So, right. And as we go through this budget process, as Laura mentioned, we do have some challenges for spending our budget aotment um for this year. So, we may um especially the mission roundabout. I I personally don't see how that project could move forward because we don't even have enough information on what size pieces can even go in roundabouts that we have to obtain some some different

feedback from public works and that sort of thing. So, we could in fact pivot and that was our um Liberty Lake Together Art. We could pivot that funding which is 32,500 and look at making sure that we have some projects for this year. And we have found that murals um are easier to get commissioned artists to do. So we've we've found that and I know um Jen's going to have a list, but we have we don't have a lot of city buildings because there's a lot of transition in what the city facilities are going to look like. But what we do have is we have um a mural on the restroom at building and concession building at pavilion. But we also have buildings at Rocky Hill and at Orchard Park. Um we have a concrete basketball court at Rocky Hill that could we have something done with? We have And you want to tell them a little bit about the safety hazard and the rocks uh holders at Yeah. So, um, if you look at the staff report, jumping ahead, um, I made a list of ideas from our staff. We got together and, um, put a list of of potential projects together. One of those from, uh, came from Derek Kaseni. We have boulders in concrete at Orchard Park that are trip hazards. Uh, we have painted them once a se a couple years ago so that they're visible. Um, but the paint is coming off and the rocks are pretty much the same color as the concrete. So, they're not always they don't just jump out at you. Um, so he came up with the idea of why not have the Cell Kurt kids uh come and paint those or hire an artist to paint like characters like Ladybug and a frog and a bumblebee because they're kind of half, you know, half

you only see the top half of the rock in the concrete. um it would make them highly visible so that they are not trip hazards anymore. So it's kind of a twofold process, but it also would turn them into art. So that's my suggestion for that um from based on what Derek came up with. And then you can see the rest of the uh restroom. We have uh all the restroom facilities including town square. You could do a farmers market theme. You know, every park has a solid theme. So that would be very easy to say we'll do it in the theme of barn at Rocky Hill or do it in the theme of uh trains and orchards at Orchard Park. Um so there's definitely potential there to repaint and do murals actual paint the murals on the sides of the buildings. Now, if we look at the Liberty Lake Together art theme, which we would be pivoting the money from, um, I mean, I'm sure anything together is any art is going to bring Liberty Lake together. So, I don't think, um, that would be an issue and we could could do the pivot, don't you? Yeah. So, Laura, I know you've dealt with the mural people more. Do you see any of these on the city staff report like the boulders or uh the restrooms or anything like that or the basketball court that I mentioned? Do you see any possibility of getting anything like that done this year? Um I mean that really comes down to artist availability. Um I I certainly think it's there's a possibility and especially if we approach it the way if we're looking to spend funds this year. Um I I think it's possible dependent on availability. So like the Pavilion Park mural was done on boards within a studio and then later mounted to the building.

So um I'm not I I can't picture I guess the surfaces off the top of my head, but I'm assuming they're similar to they're bumpy. Yeah, that they're similar to pavilion where I think that would probably be a good route to go again if we wanted a smooth we did discuss this um earlier at our agenda review meeting and they do paint on rough surfaces. They absolutely can. It's more a matter of the look. Like if you want a smooth polished mural look like Pavilion, then you could do it on boards. I'm just saying in terms of if we're looking to to spend funding this year, that's a a route that you could go because they could complete the mural in studio this year and then mount it to the building in the spring of 26 or you know, you're we're in July. So, I think that it might be challenging finding if we have to go through a whole call process and a selection process and then the time to do the mural as well. um unless we look at to go through council approval of a contract, all of those things. So that the the timing of that I think would make it challenging to get it complete on surface this year. Um but if you're looking at in studio work later mounted, I think there's, you know, potential to spend funds there. The other thing too is if we look at the body of work that has been submitted and Jen, I don't know if this is possible. If you say, "Hey, we really liked artist A, B, and C and would like to move forward with a project from them. If we can do that or if you have to go through a thorough call again, um they don't artist does not follow the same procurement policies and um uh guidelines that purchasing a tangible item does. So I I um I knew that. I just didn't know if we need to have a specific call for each project or if we could I I'd have to find out. I don't know the answer to that

cuz like for the basketball court mural, we liked what happened um at Pavilion Park. I mean could we just say approach her and say would you be willing to do Rocky Hill and if she had an interest and we could just you could or you could I mean on that project we had several submissions so we can look at the other artists and say hey we really liked this art style. Could we use that artist and just directly commission them or do we have to go through this open call process of we're giving the art community an opportunity to submit? Um yeah, because we had a lot of submissions for that and we had a lot I mean thinking back it's been what six years now so you'd have to make that contact again but we had some really good submissions for the Pavilion Park mural that didn't get selected. So, those are artists again that you could say, "Hey, I really liked the idea. I like the style and can I commission that artist to do a farm themed one or a train themed or however you want to do that." Um, I just don't know from a city procurement standpoint or from a council approval what might be required for that, but we we've had a lot of I'd say fantastic submissions over the years. So, it's just a matter of pooling. it would be a matter of pulling those back together and saying, you know, these are the artists that we'd we'd like to try to work with. So, when you look at that $32,500 budget, do you have any idea based on knowledge and experience what we might get done for that? Uh, without knowing the measurements of the building, I mean, you can very comfortably get two done. you might be able to get three, but we spent and again 6 years ago we spent 10,000 on Pavilion Park. So if measurement wise it's in that same order of magnitude,

then I'd say you're probably only going to get two to to pay a competitive hill would be smaller, but that then again, I don't know. Yeah. And you wouldn't be able to do those and a court. So, as we go through this budget process, I I'd really like us to decide today if we could at least a general guideline of ideas that we would want to pivot to so we can get that process started so that we accomplish something for our efforts this year that's measurable. Um, so let's think about that as we start through on looking at the other items we have here. Um the ticket booth that was um nothing for this year really. We the story walk is on hold till fall. Um we haven't done anything with beautifification. We've committed some of the programming budget which we'll get to later. We did the Smarty board. We haven't had to spend anything so far on the community input for the um do we need any supplies for the barefoot booth? Do we need new rock painting stuff? Because that could come out of that because we're drawing people into the booth. Yeah. So, I would suggest that we dip into that 5,000 to do whatever we need to do um for the remainder of the of the outreach um which is at the farmers market later this month and then at barefoot. So, what do you foresee as expenses for that? I don't foresee any expenses because we've already got the boards and the um the boards from SCJ. I don't know what we would spend money on. Do we need the rock painting thing? Yeah, that I I made a note. Okay. Yeah. Let me

So, we'll get that out of that. Do we need a We can just do a broad um motion to spend what we need to on that. Yep. Um where do the rocks come from? We just go down to a local landscape company and get them. But yeah, I the rock painting pens. we could get fresh ones of those cuz I'm sure at some point they dry out a little bit. And it was two or three years ago that we purchased those. Yeah. If we even still have them. So, and then um the community art and I know we have an update farther down on the list, but I think we need to talk about that now. So, the community art was the goat statue in um town square and the call went out and Laura, what what what do you have for us on that? So, we did receive a submission and there's uh the second to last page in your packet. um a local artist and his wife um Peter Jagota had submitted a proposal um of what he'd like to do and and he's um they they work with goats and have for the past 30 years through Rivers Wish Animal Sanctuary. So, it's something that's very near and dear to him. I actually like that connection um to the the goats in particular that he has. And his vision is to have two goats and to also work with a recording engineer that as you approach or or however I guess we would work with him to determine it that the goats would actually bleed when kids came up to it or people came up to look at the artwork. So I think we'd have to be a little thoughtful in how how we do that. Um whether it's a button or some way to activate it so they're not constantly bleeding. But um as may happen anyways, but um but he did buttons.

Yeah. So he does have experience um working with fabricated steel and I the from his portfolio which I think we'll email out. I don't see the pictures in here. So he did send some portfolio examples. um he's I think mainly done jewelry and some smaller art, but um Nancy and I had talked about this and he she knows him and his wife and they um are both in the art community and then also obviously within the animal sanctuary community as well in particular with goats. So that that is the one submission that we got. Um I think it's a really strong submission. I love his story. I love the connection. Um my only concern just on all of these as we move forward that you know we only did receive one submission and so I don't necessarily want to move forward with it unless the commission feels that it's the right submission. Um what was he talking about the columns the the entry? So you have two columns there. And so he was talking about having um one goat standing on its hind legs reaching for a branch on one of the entry columns and at the base of the other it'd be like looking behind like it's peeking at the standing one. Um so it'd be you know we'd ask for something playful. Um I I believe based on what he's submitted that if we were to move forward um that we'd be able to work with him, right? So, we don't have a proposal for it. And at a minimum, we could say we set aside in the call a $15 stipend to develop a proposal. So, we can say that, you know, as a commission, let's spend that $1,500 and have him develop a proposal that would show the sketches and you get a better idea of what he's thinking um before, yeah, deciding that yes, we want to commission and move forward with the piece. And I would say I know the Dakotas from their

work at Rivers Wish Animal Sanctuary and I familiar with uh some of his uh sculpture work and he has quite a resume which you'll see we'll be able to send out but I Noel is online. I can't hear you guys and I will work on getting the video back up so we can keep going. Yep. Okay. Uh I apologize everyone for the interruption. We're back at the Parks and Arts Commission and we're discussing um our budgeted projects for 2025. So, uh Laura was uh bringing up us up to speed on the submission, the sole submission for our community art piece, which is the goats at Town Square Park. And so, we're discussing about options if we want to move forward. As I was mentioning, um I believe that Dakota's uh love and comm lifetime commitment to animals in particularly goats and their background not only in art and sculpture but her background in elementary art education that they would be able to bring in the bringing kids into art. I don't know how to say it, but you know, making the art attractive to children so we can get them um inter interested in art. So, Laura, you were saying about the stipen. Yes. So, I I think at this point uh the best path forward would be to use the allocated stipen of $1,500. Um and just go back to Peter to see if he would be interested in further developing the proposal. and then we can kind of see what he has in mind and then at that point as a commission vote whether or not we want to proceed forward but at least getting a better idea of what it would look like. So what's the pleasure of the commission um with the community art piece? Do you want to move ahead and offer the stipen and see where that goes?

Yes. You need a motion? I think so. We will. Yeah. I move that we offer stipen to the I don't know how to say the last name. Dakota. Jakakota. Dakota. I'll second that. So, it's been moved and seconded to move ahead down the process with our sole submission. Uh Pete and Kit Dakota from River's Wish Animal Sanctuary and offer them a $1,500 stipen to further develop uh the idea. Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor? I I opposed. Please show the motion passes unanimously. So, we took a little bit of a side trip from the budget, but um we'll get back to the um I have a question on the budget. Where are the Didn't we decide to do some tree lighting? We'll get to that. Oh, I was just wondering. I didn't see on the budget. So, yeah. No, we that's a pivot for for this year a little bit because of the winter globe, but I believe we'll get to that. Okay. Um real quick on that. So, I'll I'll reach out to Peter and um offer the stipen to develop the proposal. But Jen, does he how do we move forward with that? He needs to be set up in the payroll or accounting accounts payable. Yeah, just have reach out to me and I'll just connect them with you. Okay. Okay. All right. Great. And um so that's pretty much it for the spending and we'll come back to the livery lake together art I think and make some decisions on that 2025 line item once we kind of go down into 2026. So on 2026, if everybody takes a look at their paper, um we had some uh rock at this was tenative um the rock art at Pavilion Park and I don't know where we're going to be on the redo there. So that could be challenging. Uh the ticket

booth, I believe that's ready for the mural extension. Is that correct? Yep. Yeah. Okay. Um, Smarty Board. I don't know if that's going to be viable because we probably need to put that off if we want one in Pavilion Park for the following year, I would think. So, do we want to just go ahead and move the Smarty Board um at Pavilion Park to 2027 because we we I know we won't What's the realistic schedule on when we might have a new playground in Pavilion? I couldn't tell you that right now. Okay, we'll move it to 2027. And what do we want to do with the rock art? I know you had some feedback a long time ago on that. Is that something that would be separate from a playground or in conjunction with a playground? Well, if we're still looking at pavilion, I think it would just be kind of part of that design process, not an afterthought. like if that's something that we want there that that would be part of the layout planning. So that would kind of coordinate with that. Yeah. And I don't know when those decisions will be made or anything. So yeah. And I don't know. I mean is it is it feasible that the master plan for the park would be done next year and the the rocks would you know I I don't know. That's I would defer to to Jen and her group on that. But yeah, you don't know. stuff. I don't know. Well, I think I mean, if we don't have a plan or equipment for next year, Pavilion Park, I don't think it's possible. It seems unlikely. And then we So, we either have to put it off a year or if there's another location that if we had an interest

Yeah, I I'm trying to think of where else because the town square park is still being right. The master plan isn't complete for that. So, I wouldn't want to put anything there. The library is potentially moving because that would be another good location. But that's right. Unless you want to try for Orchard, but I don't want to force a project either. Yeah. I mean, it might be interesting to wait on that till we see how the town square is going to be developed out because if that's all eventually connected and there's some kind of a library community building, which seems to be the direction they're going in there. No, that would be a nice addition. They're probably going to be some things. Why don't we move that to 2027 and we just take out the location and put something like possible um town square. Yeah, put town square in there for 2027. That might we may end up moving it to 2028. But do we know the timeline for the master plan development or is that they're working on it now? But how long is that process normally? I'm not familiar with I don't think we know enough to even do a timeline on it. This year though for what? Town square. Oh, the town square. No, the master plan this year. Next the goal is this year. Park master plan. That will be this. The park master plan is finished this year. The town square park. I mean, if you're talking about town square, separate project. Yeah. You want to know what that's going to look like before making that decision. and you they don't even have it funded or anything and that's probably going to go to the voters. So, I mean it's TBD. We could jump it all to 2028. You can put 2028 and then if we need to adjust it again. But

let's change um Pavilion Park Rock Art to Town Square and move it to 2028. And I see on 2026 we have the carryover which I think is reasonable um for the Kramer roundabout uh because it's possible if we switch and pivot to a mural the install might not be into that. So we we may have to change the verbiage on that to to mural of some sort. Um, and then are we going to need to move the wait a minute? The community art, are we going to need to move that to a carryover to 2026? Yes, we had already decided that. Yeah, because I don't see it on there. Yeah. No, we' already talked about that when we reubmitted the call to artists. Sure. So, 2025, we need to move, we need to carry over the community art to 2026. Figuring if we're going with a Gulp sculpture, it won't be done. Oh, shoot. Scared me. Don't push that button. We'll probably have a good idea. I don't like after we talk to Peter and get a proposal. there would likely be some of that that line item spent this year for So if it's a carryover, we can spend some this year and then spend the balance the following year just like we made a deposit on Exactly. Yeah. I think that in realistically if we were to move forward um with Peter, then that's what would happen. I would assume. So we're going to have three carryover items for 2026. story walk because if it goes into production in the fall, the install wouldn't be until spring. The

Liberty Lake Together Art, which would be likely um two mural projects, and if they ended up being on boards because of the time frame, then the install probably wouldn't be together until um 2026. And then we'll add to that carryover the community um community um art the goat would be carried over to 2026. So we're going to have three carryover projects that we're starting this year. Yeah. This community art. Okay. We need to add it here. So we're going to have three carryovers. Liberty Lake. What are we do doing with this one? Well, that's the following. That's the new year. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. Okay. So, we have this is carry the top little section here is carryover. Okay. And we want to put this funded in 2025, but maybe not installed till 2026. Okay. So, um then when we look down, so we've got now the rock art and town square is coming out of 2026 and going to 28. We will do the ticket booth next year. So, that will stay in 2026. The Smarty Board, we're going to move that to 2027. Uh the Pavilion Park playground, um we're just going to leave that because that's not a budget item for us as a placeholder for the replacement project. Um we can keep our beautifification and programming. Um, at some point as we get into it a little farther, male, maybe let us know if we need more money in programming. So, we'll have a community art project. I I would propose that we strike that for next year because we're already going to have the carryover. And what we're learning is that

these really are kind of multi-year. Well, I noticed we don't have any Liberty Lake Together art in 2026 other than the carryover. Do we want to keep either the livery late together or the community art or strike both and play catch-up next year? I I think it'd probably be good to strike both and play catch-up, but that's just my my personal feel based on the feedback that we've received that we spend next year kind of building those relationships and getting the ideas out there for the following year. If do do we need to take a portion of the budget and apply it to some type of artist networking like having website or Yeah. And I think having a consultant might not be a bad because I know Karen said that's part of her job with Spokane Arts if we might need to pay somebody to help us right further these projects and make those networking outreaches and you know building $5,000 or something like that or why don't we reach out to her? Yeah, I'd get a number. My guess is it's higher than Yeah. Okay. So Jen will reach out. That sounds beneficial. So I hear what you're saying. I see in our 2026 piece of paper we have community art. I don't see that we have a 2026 Liberty Lake Together art. I understand not wanting to do both of those. I would like if people are agreeable if we're going to do scul uh murals on a board to complete our Liberty Lake Together art for this year since we're not doing the roundabout. So we pivot to that and that's a carryover project. Why don't we keep community art in the budget and do the basketball mural at Rocky Hill Park as part of the community art do that and that way we would reduce the budget. Obviously that wouldn't be 40,000 but

that's something that I think we would feel confident about being able to do. I think that's very doable. And then that'll give us some breathing room to get the murals that we probably are going to start this year to get done, get the all the sculpture stuff done, and then kind of reboot, if you will. Yeah. So that I'll put that as a tenative. So the Rocky Hill, do you want me to um or I don't know if Jen if you already have copies of this? I'm pretty sure I do, but um put together something that can be sent out to the commissioners of previous mural submissions and artists. So then we can look at those and say, you know, or even I think we worked with I want to say for the Pavilion Park mural, we picked five to give a small stipen to send it out to develop. So, you know, just recognizing that those went through a selection committee and process and those were the five that rose to the top, those artists. Um, if we don't want to go through the whole call, but still arrange it for next year. Well, that would be that carryover where some of it might be able to get started this year. I mean, it just depends on the artist and their availability, but I can Right. Are we talking about the same thing? Are we talking about the basketball court or No, I was talking just about the basketball court next year, but you're talking about the murals on set. When you talk about that community, so you really have you have the liberty like you had mentioned the liberty like together carryover, which is now m two murals instead of a statue. So if we don't want to do another call, I think quite honestly that might be hurting us a little bit that we're putting out so many calls and not awarding. So, you're saying we go back to people that have submitted we go back to our our base of artists that we've already gotten submissions from specifically for the murals or um

because there was a a good response for that um that we start there and if there's artists that were like and again those five that submitted for the I know we really wanted to work with all of them at the time because they were really amazing submissions but we could only pick one. So if we do that and we get the two murals in the liate together art this year's project we get two murals for our 325 we'll just divide that in essentially essentially in half depending on the size and the only buildings we have that we can identify in short notice would be the restrooms in Orchard and Rocky. Yeah. You know, I I'm very um happy to hear what you guys are discussing for art for the city. Uh I've always been a you know, a supporter of art and whether it's the goats um or whatever. Um I think it's something that we're doing that adds value to the city. Yeah. Thank you. Do is another potential the the farmers market container is that city owned and the only reason I'm asking container there anymore? Oh, we have two two selections. Are those permanent? No, they're portable. Okay. Okay. So, community art in 2026, we're penciling in the Rocky Hill basketball court. And it sounds like we're penciling in for 2025 the Liberty Lake Together Art, the two bathrooms. And that'll probably be a carryover project because it'll be on the boards and the install will likely not be next year. And we won't do a new Liberty Lake

Together Art in 2026. We'll pause and catch up with ourselves. the trail head beam project. I think we're back to putting that off till we get to the town square thing. So, and that's going to be let's just bump that so we don't have to keep looking at it to the 2028 because we know we won't have um that. Then we have the maintenance and then uh symphony fireworks and no winter glow. Okay. So then we've dropped down to 2027. [Music] What's the pavilion mural extension? Ticket booth. Turn the No, that one's turning the corner. So the ticket booth in 2026 is Oh, I see right here in the We talked about turning wrapping the building. Is that Do we put we do we put bathrooms there? I there we did and we had said no, we're not going to do the extension and then Jen, you had sent me an email saying never mind. We looked and could put the bathroom somewhere else if we wanted to continue that. So, do you want to save that in there for as a placeholder for 2027? Um, you if you're looking to I mean, no. Well, you could bump that to 2026 if you're looking to move something forward because you would you would do the same artist, right? So, the same artist would do both that and the ticket booth. So, it might work to just have him do the whole thing at once if we wanted. Otherwise, we can split it. Well, we're going to have We're not going to be asking for much, so we might as well. That's why I was saying if you want if you were looking to have a more aggressive budget, that's one that could be realistically pulled for. If we do the ticket booth and then the wraparound in that same line item because it'll be the same artist and then that budget's 15, what should we bump it to? Um,

let me think about that. Or do we want to since it is the same artist, do we want him to give us a quote for it? I can ask him for Yeah, if we had a ballpark quote so we could finalize the number. I can ask him. I mean, we could just for right now bump it to Well, you just total them together. I mean, just put them together. Yeah, total them together at 35. And then I can reach out to him and just say this is where we had the budget. Yeah, we'll put 35 as a placeholder. And then that for 26 or 27? That's 26. You would be able to do that in 26, I believe. Part ticket move. Yeah, just put annual. Yeah, I'll ask him his availability um and see if 2026 is a viable timeline for him. Okay. So, if it is, I'm just going to tentatively exit out of 2027, hoping that we can get it in 2026. Yes. And then we'll keep just for placeholder the beautifification programming. Um, we can keep the community and Liberty Lake together or I just don't I think we just cross that from 2027 and leave it. We don't need to. Which one? We just cross out the first item on 2027, the pavilion mural extension because we moved it to 2020. Did we say we're removing the trail head beam project of 26? We're putting that to 28. Okay. Thank you. So on 28 we'll we'll scratch we kept we have multiple entries of the pavilion park mural extension. So we're scratching that for 28. We'll leave. Oh, the 28. And this is another something that we can talk about the that artist when he when he did the original mural, he had talked about you could do a bronze carousel statue and you could mount it. So that's what's in the notes there. Interactive art. So you could do the carousel carousel.

Um, yes. Oh, I love that idea. What did you say? Oh, sorry. I just said yes. I love that idea. Yeah. Yeah. So, the the idea was that you could pick one of the carousel animals and do it in bronze and then people could sit on the carousel. All right. Animal in front of the mural. It' be pictures, but So, are you leaving that? We'll leave that for 2028. But in the verbiage, cross out extend mural around corner and just leave carousel bronze. Okay. And my guess and I'll find out, but my guess is that uh budget would need to go up for the carousel bronze and Why don't we cross it out of that first line in 2028 and under community art put the carousel bronze and leave that 40 placeholder. That sounds good. Okay. So, so are we removing pavilion mural extension for 28 altogether? Yeah. Remove that whole line item. Okay. And then under 2028 community art in the notes put carousel bronze. I I would like to propose and I don't know if we need a note, but on the and not to jump around, sorry, Nancy, on the 2026 public art maintenance, looking at the skate park and the basketball court, the pavilion park basketball court specifically, um the the artist that had done the courts in um Riverfront Park, he had mentioned maintenance being an issue. while I was down there for hoop fest last or two weekends ago. Um you can just see the state of disrepair that the murals gotten into. So I'd like to make sure we stay on top of that and same thing. Is 5,000 enough or do we need to up it for that? I'll ask Danielle because I imagine we would go back to her to do the

okay the touch-ups. Correct. So in the notes, Jen, for 2026 public art maintenance, can you put pavilion park uh skate park and basketball court in the notes? And then uh oh in maintenance. Okay. Yeah, just scribble there that that's going to be maintenance. And then we'll have a question mark on the number and yeah, we might need to increase that, but I'll you can ask her. I'll reach out to both artists and just Yeah. What would it Yeah. What would that look like if we had them touch it up next year? Okay. Okay. Okay. So that's 2026. And then so I think 2028 um we're pretty much we don't need to talk about we got rid of the pavilion part mural thing and the bronze and that year because we've got other stuff and are you okay with waiting till 28 on the carousel bronze? Okay. Okay. So let's go back up to the top. See if we can hammer this out. So 2025 we have our um carryover projects. Let's talk about the Pavilion Park historical outlook outlook. Yes. So I have um three companies that are providing design and fabrication proposals for the stand. We have the dimensions for the top plate that the historical society would um donate and I expect to have numbers in the next week. Um preliminarily I had one company respond last week um with about five a little over $5,000 in four weeks. So all all three have said getting it done this year is not a problem. So and we'll be within budget it sounds like. Yes. Okay.

Yeah. Well within budget. All right. So that we're good there. Liberty Lake Together Art um still looking at a fall install. They're their other project um is complete and this now has their full focus. If you look in your packet, there is um the fused glass pieces that will be going into the third from the end. Third from the end. Um those have not gone into the oven yet. So you can see some sketch lines and things on it and it would be cleaned up and protected. But you can see the the start of the glass pieces that will go within the metal panels. And then someone's working with um public works whoever on on the install. And well I need the details from the artist still. Okay. So I I've asked for that um as soon as they have it because we need location. We need final heights and weights of the panels. And I mean, we have the details on how they want them mounted to the concrete base, but we need to determine what size that concrete base needs to be. And then that's all part of the permit, too. So, it's kind of on a a holding pattern for that piece of it until we get that information. Okay. So, the Liberty Lake Together Art is going to be two murals which will do the two bathrooms and that is for our 2025 budget money. And so, we have marked that we'll carry over the 2025 Liberty Lake Together Art, understanding we may not have an installation until 26, but we'll get it started in 2025. So, we're abandoning the Kramer roundabout for now. The ticket booth, that's that's done. It's ready to go for next year. Quick question.

Okay. Are these just part painted on the wall or is it something? It's all fused glass. Okay. Actual glass pieces that will mount. Yeah. Mount within the metal panels. Yeah. The ticket booth. That's a done deal. Um, we don't we can't do the utility box wraps until the installation. Can we get that done this year? You could do the utility boxes before the installation. It was more a matter of having it blend in with whatever lamp. How are we going to do that? The blending in. Well, how are we going to pick the art for the utility box to go with the sculpture? We just need to decide that. It doesn't have to go with the sculpture. We had decided something that wouldn't take away from the sculpture. So if you have landscaping there, like something that is more So what do you think we should do for this is we're talking about the utility box wraps at the Kramer Parkway Country Vista Triangle piece of land where that fused glass metal sculpture is going to go. And the boxes are fairly large and prominent. Yes. So, I don't know how we should go about that, but we probably should get that going. Thoughts? Who designs the what you like? Could you do something that was like trees or plants that was kind of like natural? I think so. Yeah, you can. and we have previously submitted artwork that that would be along those lines. Um so that's again we could go back to what we already have. We could put out another call. It would be a shorter or if

there's local artists um that we know we like the artwork or you've seen a specific piece that you like, you can ask them because the like the the ones on Harvard and is it Indiana? um those were taken from artwork and the artist just granted us permission to use it for that. So it wasn't a call or a submission. We almost need like a standard like a brand guide of of art approved art that we can use a catalog. Yeah. Like a brand like marketing brand. Yeah. like a hometown her banners be if they're those stretch because of the banners that hang the banners I'm afraid anything with writing might take away from the sculpture because they're so close the legacy one is further down the legacy signal box the are we talking about the legacy one I thought we were talking about the Kramer Parkway one oh and legacy we have two intersections. Oh, okay. Oh, that's an interesting idea. You could do the legacy one to your point with the legacy one could be Hometown Heroes. How do you feel about that? I mean, the manners go right through there. What would that look like, though? is we would we they have people's pictures on them. So I something patriotic the something patriotic. Yeah. Not necessarily a hometown, right? But patriotic. And then the Kramer Parkway just needs to be something really simple. I think just something natural would be

nice there. Like trees and Yeah. lakes. Okay. That sounds good. I say like the sunflower one that we have. That one blends in a lot more. Where did we get that art? That was submitted from one of from our original call to artist for the utility boxes. So I can go I mean I can go look through that artwork again and see you know we kind of have the I mean not really a thorough catalog but we have some that have already been sub. You have that and can look and then something patriotic should be available somewhere. I would imagine have the students when have this you designed something this fall. Don't we already have patriotic art from the students? I don't remember. I remember seeing in one of these meetings some artwork from the students. Can you have to do that in warm weather? Mhm. I mean, you can realistically do that one through fall. Yeah, because school's out now. If we wanted to do have students submit patriotic art, we'd have to get it right after the school year, sort of. But we could do that. Why don't you go through and look and see what you have? Maybe we can find something that's natural for the Kramer Parkway one and then go to the school for fall because if they could I think that it's a fairly quick turnaround to have the wrap made once we make the selection. Would that be accurate? Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we could do some installation around uh Veterans Day if it's not too cold. [Laughter] I want to think about cold weather. I All right. Well, if you can look through that and then maybe we'll put the legacy one on hold, but that's a good idea now that I realize you're talking about

and a reminder that STCU most likely would sponsor those. Okay. Reach out to STCU. The story walk, we know that's possibly fabrication could start in the fall. Um the beautifification we're going to take some painting supplies out of. We'll still have more money for that, but we can talk about that at the next meeting. The programming, we've already committed some money and we need to talk about that again. Um completed on the Smarty board, the play the playground. Oh, not beautifification. We're taking the painting stuff out of the pavilion playground thing. by mistake. I don't know what I don't think we've done anything with beautifification, but with the orchard rocks come out of that. Oh, that's a good idea. Could we get the orchard rocks done for that? How many rocks did they say they were there were? I don't know. There's a lot of them. But it could be an ongoing project if we could spend 5,000 and get as many done as we can. Yeah. I like I personally like the idea of having an artist do it and doing animals versus having students come paint them a solid color. I like I like the idea of trying to just incorporate it into the park in a playful way. So then it's still a safety um serves the safety purpose, but also could we go back to a list of contributors and try to find someone or do we need to do a call for that? I wouldn't think so. We Who did Jen? You might have the artist that did um I think it was one of the first Barefoots that did the chalk art. I thought that was Danielle. No, I didn't think so. I can go back and look and find I feel like it was Stacy maybe. All right. Well, why don't you see Boyer? Yeah, I think so. She's done she's

submitted for projects over the years and we've she's always been in the top when we would come down to the final decision. So, she would be a really good person to ask, I think. And I know she's done a lot at um Summit School specifically. So, they have some really really nice murals there that she's done. Well, why don't we find out how far our 5,000 would go and get that started so we get that done this year and then we can have it continued into next year. Um, so is that going to come out of beautifification? Yes. And then playground the community art that's going to be the carryover goat project. So 2026 we have the Liberty Lake we have three carryover projects. Liberty Lake together art which would be the two bathroom murals. We have story walk and we have the community art in the form of the goat statue as it stands now. Um we've moved um the rock art to be in town square and we've put that in 2028. The pavilion park ticket booth is now combined with the uh wrap of the mural around the bathroom concession building. And that budget number is now at tenatively at 35K, but Laura is going to have a conversation to see if that's accurate. The Smarty board in 2026 is now 2027 because Pavilion Park won't be ready. Um, we'll still be working on the playground project. We've upped the beautifification uh budget for 2026. And if depending on

what the uh the art on the rocks in u Orchard Park, we could add to that so we can finish that project in the spring hopefully if the 5,000 doesn't go very far. Um, programming. So, are you saying 15,000 for beautifification or did you say no? Well, over two years cuz we're stuck with the five this year. I don't know how far it's going to go with painting those boulders in the playground area. But if it doesn't do every boulder, we could finish it in beautifification in um 2026. And we could even up that number if we needed to or we could make it a separate project if we needed to. But we'll just kind of leave it as it is. the programming 10, the community art now is tenatively the basketball court at Rocky Hill. Um, we have that at 40. It shouldn't be that because it's just a single court. I don't know what a realistic number would be. In your conversations, would you be able to what a single court number might be? I can ask. So, we can true that up a little bit. Uh the trail head beam project is now bumped to 2028 because we don't uh we're still thinking in a building. So that's town square. The public art maintenance. Um you're going to check on that, Laura, to see if the 5,000 would cover the update to the skate and the basketball mural. And then we have no numbers um for the symphony and fireworks. Would those be the And we don't have I don't know what we don't have those numbers. Oh, we should have the symphony if we're contracted out through those. Yeah, I see last year it said 21 and 13. Are those numbers or Yeah, it it doesn't it doesn't really matter too much because it doesn't come out of the public.

It's just that we support we support it. So, we had Yeah, because the fireworks number doubled and then we should have the the contracted amount for the symphony for next year. Yeah. So, we can write that in the notes when we know that what that is. Then in 2027, um we've scratched the mural extension because we moved that up. Everything else is the same for now and we can finish looking at that next meeting. And then in 2028, we scratched the pavilion mural extension because again, we've moved it um except for the carousel bronze, which we've now put in the community art 2028 category. So, I think if we get a new printout for our next meeting with all that, we can because we need to finalize it at our next meeting. We also need to look at the proposed fee schedule as well. At the proposed fee schedule. Okay. Where are we? I don't know that we need to do that today. We could probably go through that since we're kind of running a long meeting, but it is all it is in here for you all. So, if you could review it and be prepared for discussion at the next meeting, we could get it finalized. That's okay. So, next meeting we'll do the fee schedule. Y and everyone will review that number in their packet so we can get through it quickly. So, we don't need a vote on the budget thing because we'll just finish that up at the next one. But the fitness classes, we need a vote on that. Is that you, male? Sorry this is taking so long, but we need a You're doing great. We did get half. Pardon me. You're doing great. I'll be quick. So, I was reached out to by Stephanie. Oh, I can't remember her last name off top of my head. She's a

local doctor and she does some wellness fitness classes um in a location in Liberty Lake and she just moved her fitness classes over to my Safeway and she reached out and to see if we were interested in partnering up and potentially doing some some beginner intro fitness classes at her location there and then potentially some in the park. And so I have the program proposal form here. Uh it's very basic uh introduction classes, yoga, uh yoga for chronic pain, pilates, hit classes, step, jump. So it' be a wide variety and potentially some uh some cooking classes for cooking for um healthier food type classes. So I just wanted to gauge your guys's opinion and see if you guys were fine with me moving forward and potentially working out an agreement with her. At this point, it's like I said, it's just very basic classes that we could pinch you to. We don't have anything set in stone, but we could once we have an agreement, we can then start putting classes at certain dates. And the expense to the city is basically your time and would there be a registration process through here or correct? We would do a registration through us through our new software and it would be an 8020 split with like we do most of our programs and then her and I would then come up with which programs we do which seasons probably more stuff indoors with her in the winter time and then hopefully some summer outdoor stuff in the parks. So the cost of the community member would be nothing. No, there would be a cost uh for her instructor's times. So, I think we had it at about uh $15 to $20 a cl for like a a class period. So, is there any conflict with the existing Sator dance class or the yoga in the park? So, Satatori doesn't exist anymore. They they vanished. Okay. And uh the yoga they didn't want to continue. They weren't getting the turnout that they were hoping for. Okay. And you said this will be a mix of in studio and in park.

Correct. Seems like a benefit. So, yeah. I'm just looking for if that's something the commission was interested in doing, then I can move forward with potentially putting an agreement together and going from there. I mean, it sounds like it's replacing programming that we'd already approved. Is that fair? Okay. So, do you need a motion to move forward with Yeah, just just to get to the commission's um feedback and approval. Okay. I'll move that we move forward in discussions with inclusive fit for fitness and wellness programming. back in. [Music] Okay. Thank you. Oh, well, I guess we should vote on Hello. I will tell you that I will forward to participating in her. All in favor of the motion. I I I Yeah, I think they're great. I work with Inclusa on several different projects and Stephanie's amazing. Plus, who doesn't likes to exercise outside? If you have to do it, it might as well be outside. There you go. There you go. Thank you. All right. Motion passes unanimously. All right. Now, I'll look ahead at the agenda. Park plan update update. SCJ, are you still out there? We need to do the never forget. Never forget garden. Yeah. Do we still have those people online? The Y, but we didn't do the forget garden. Oh, I think we need to vote on it. Oh, I didn't have it on. I'm working off my old agenda. Oh, okay. Hang on one sec second. We have a vote on the never forget garden electrical box. Okay. So, remember, just to refresh, it's a we redid the electrical. It's a small box. It's at the garden. Um, we thought there was a rose. There wasn't a rose. There was an

orchid. David found David found some um art for the orchid which doesn't look like anything would grow here to to me. And then we found an old submission Laura was able to dig it up. And if you look at where is it in the packet? It's right before all the survey stuff. No, it's right before all the survey stuff. There's a picture of the the soldier at the soldier tomb of the unknown soldier. I don't know why I can't find it, but so right now it looks like we have she has the picture up there. That's kind of what the never forget garden to me is more about. I don't really think of an orchid, but maybe there is an orchid. What do you guys want to do on the box? Right now, our choices are the soldier at the tomb of the unknown soul s at the unknown soldier or the orchid that's not the rose that we thought was going to be planted. My preference would be the tomb of the unknown soldier. I you know I and I apologize for dragging this out. I think I'm the one that brought up the the rose because I remembered in the presentation they had talked about a specific variety of rose and um I agree with Nancy that I just feel like an orchid would look out of place in the in the park in that garden area because it's not something that would naturally grow whereas when we had explored the idea of the rose that is something that would grow and then we thought it would be another kind of nod to um the D organization that put in the the plaque because again we thought that there was the specific rose

variety that they had talked about um not an orchid. So, um I would I would lean towards the patriotic personally, but what's I like that. Patriotic. What What do you think, Bob? Well, I'm agreeing with everything that's being said here. Um, I think it's a way of moving forward and it adds value for the city for people, you know, wandering through the parks and seeing those things that talking about. I think it's good. Okay. Do we have a motion? I move that we Is that right? Where am I? I move that we uh proceed with the patriotic art. A second. Yes. All right. It's been moved by Joanie, seconded by Noel to move ahead with a D um image of the tomb of the unknown soldier for the Never Forget Garden. All in favor? I oppose. Please show the motion has passed unanimously. And that's what we'll do. We can check that off our list. All right. Now we'll go to the parks plan update. I apologize. SCJ, you're you're on. No problem at all. I've actually really enjoyed listening to the meeting. I'm learning a lot that's very relevant to doing the parks and and arts and recreation plan. So, it's been a good use of time. Um, but with that, um, I Jen, I don't know if you have my PowerPoint that you can pull up when I Evan. Yeah. Or do you want me to share my screen? Evan's pulling it up right now. Okay. Because I'm happy to do either one. Now, aren't you glad I told you 10 minutes? Yes. Um Yeah. So, I'll just kind of keep

this high level and quick because I know you guys have had um a lot to cover. Um but I haven't touched base with you all in a while. So, I want to just let you know where we're at with the parks and recreation master plan update. So, um I'm Jen Dial, by the way. I'm the project manager on this. So, nice to see you all again, commissioners. Thanks for having me. Um, here's a quick reminder of what was in the scope of work and the various phases and kind of where we're at with each of them. We're basically through that first phase, which was really getting familiar with all the relevant documents, policies, procedures, and putting together a community kind of profile and demographic assessment. So, we're just very familiar with all the needs um and issues in Liberty Lake. Um the second step was building the inventory and assessment which included doing site visits and just getting more familiar with each park and the amenities and facilities within them. Um so that's pretty much wrapping up right now. The engagement, as you can imagine, because it's July, we're in the the thick of that. Um so that's going to be ongoing throughout the summer. um the level of service review that's part of that phase 4 demands and needs analysis. Um we're doing that right now, conducting that review right now and we're starting to do the policy framework to really review all the existing goals and objectives to provide some recommendations for you all. Um so you can go to the next slide. Quick recap of what engagement has looked like so far. I know a lot of you have come to some of the events, so thank you for being there. We had our kickoff um at the Trail Head Golf Course Event Center on May 22nd. Um then we did a popup event at Pavilion Park trying to get some general information from the public, but also some of that specific

feedback about Pavilion's playground and things that I know is on your uh priority list for park improvements. So, we had some a whole busload of kids from Y um MCA camp show up and we got a bunch of feedback at that popup. Um which was great cuz that Friday was a very cold and windy day if you all remember. Um so, we were really pleased with that. And then staff just hosted on the 4th of July um a popup event at Pavilion Park as well. And so we're we're getting a lot of great data um and input. So, pretty excited about that. This engagement schedule has four more events lined out throughout July and August. Um so we're going to continue to refine the questions and um the surveys going great. I think we have almost 200 responses on the survey so far. So um feeling pretty good about that and I'm happy to come back as we get more um engagement results and and share with all of you what we're hearing. Next slide. Um that community context report is complete and it'll serve as kind of the introduction for the report and it has just a description of the community history, some updated demographic data and some geographic and economic context. Um so you can all anticipate seeing that as part of the draft report. Next slide. In addition to just doing site visits um to all of the parks to look at facilities and amenities, we did the same for um public art. And this screenshot here just captures some of the art installations that we visited um their coordinates because we're going to be doing a inventory map of where all the art currently is located within your system. Um we categorized them by type and then we looked at their condition.

um any maintenance or appearance needs. Um we identified who the artist was and if they were local and then we tried to identify some um price points on there. And then we're also looking closely to see if if the various art types are aligning with some of the goals and policies listed in your arts commission uh strategic plan. So, we'll have some um maps to show you soon in terms of the inventory and we can start having conversations with you all on recommendations for where you'd like to see um different types of art and and expansion of art. So, I know that was a lot of tonight's meeting, too. So, I I gained a lot of val valuable insight listening to you all. Um next slide. One of the other things we're doing is pulling together what we call a policy framework. And it's essentially a matrix that pulls in all the current policies both from the arts strategic plan, the city's comprehensive plan, the most current parks and wreck um master plan, and identifies those things that are still relevant, those things that have been completed, things that still need to be done. And so we'll probably be sending this not only to Jen and staff, but um to to you all as well to help us identify those goals and policies that are outdated and those that need um improvement. And then we'll refine that and start developing a list of of recommendations for you all. Next slide. We've been doing a lot of mapping. Um so this example here on the slide is Orchard Park. So we'll have kind of an overview map that identifies with a legend all the various amenities within each park and then in addition to that um we'll have that condition assessment sheet below each park map. So essentially the report will have like a

a profile for each park that has its inventory, has its condition assessment, has its um kind of timeline for system improvements and things like that for all of the city-owned parks. And then we'll also be doing an inventory of more like regional systemwide uh park and recre amenities including things like the HOA parks and things that aren't necessarily city-owned. So we'll be doing both of those in the inventory and assessment phase of the report. Next slide. This is an example of what the amenity condition rating sheet looks like. So, in addition to um doing site visits, we've asked staff to kind of ground truth this, but we've got a list of all the amenities that are in each park, the quantity of those amenities, and then a rating ranging from new, good, fair to poor. um when it was last updated, what the replacement schedule um is likely to be, and then just various notes where we can start to identify any other kind of nuances that are relevant to making some assessment decisions. Next slide. Um and then this is just kind of next steps looking at the the phases. We're really focused on continuing that public engagement and making sure we're getting um input from a variety of the community, completing that level of service review. We're looking at 10 other peer communities similar to Liberty Lake to determine what other cities have for their level of service in terms of um park acreage per resident and types of amenities. And then we'll be comparing that with some of the National Recreation and Parks Association's recommendations. Um, and then we'll be continuing that policy framework. Um, focusing on the goals and objectives and making some

recommendations. So, hope to come back to all of you to have more of a discussion when we get to the point of sharing the level of service um, analysis. I think you'll find that pretty interesting to see how Liberty Lake compares with some other communities and then of course getting your input on on the goals and objectives. So, um I could go so much more in depth, but I I wanted to keep it high level and uh not keep you here all all night. So, that's that's the conclusion of my presentation for now, but I'm happy to answer any questions you all might have. I just had one question on the engagement kickoff summary that we have in our packet on on page four of that station number three at that kickoff was public art and I realize we have very few responses but you know the natured inspired art got 10 votes murals got six and so on. Are you gathering more of the data in that category or is that it just from the kickoff? Yeah, the summary um currently is only showing you what we received from that kickoff event. Um but the survey has art specific questions in it as well. So we'll be getting a lot more data from that. And then the other popup events, the the two we had at Pavilion Park were pretty focused on the pavilion playground, but when we do more general um popup events throughout the rest of July and August, we'll make sure that we have an art question in there so we can supplement those results. Yeah, I think that would be helpful as we make our our plans forward over the years and create a budget to know what what people are really looking at. and engagement one was just too small of a sampling to really know. Yep. Yep. I agree. Okay. Any other questions? Well, thanks for sitting with us while we

go over and over stuff, but it's a process. We appreciate you coming and giving us the update. Thank you. Absolutely. Happy to be here. Thanks, everyone. All right, moving on very quickly to our other agenda items. You'll see on the farmers market table. Um, we still have the I said I would take the um it's on the 26. I'll do the 9 to 11, but we have the 11 to 1. This is at the farmers market at the city booth. Um, Jen, you're going to be there? Yeah. Is there anybody that would be able to join Jen from 11 to 1 on July 26? I will. You will? Yeah. July 26. From 11 to 1 at the city booth at the farmers market. City booth. Okay. Thank you, Bob. Really appreciate that. Um then the other one was the barefoot table shifts which you'll see in your packet. Um we have four different shifts and we have people in shift number one but nobody in any other shift. Does anybody have any availability? That's for the rock painting. And then letting the kids put uh and kids and families put dots on the playground uh replacement project um to see what they're looking at like you saw in the packet that they did at the popups. I'm out of town that weekend and not available. Sorry. No, that's okay. Um, well, I'm thinking that if I can move to the Gary and I should split up. That'll cover an extra shift. So, why don't you

move me down to the um 11:45 to 1:30 slot and then um maybe we can put out an email to all the commissioners. Yes. Um asking to fill the remaining slots. Jen, thanks. All right. Um, winter event ID update. We really need to get a quick quick through this, but we needed to hear it. Okay. Yes. So, at the last meeting, I discussed uh potentially well, us purchasing some trees and then having community members decorate it and then have them plant it. with more discussion from our arborist. He's just concerned about the lifespan of the trees doing it in winter and then them not surviving the winter after getting planted. Um, and the reason we brought that idea up is it uh fills two different purposes. Some decorating for the holidays and then also adding more trees to the park. So Jen and I were talking and another option that we could potentially do is same thing with trees is actually purchase live Christmas trees, have them in the park and then those can be decorated and then those can also still be used after the fact cuz with the goats in the winter time uh will after the holidays can eat the trees and so it's a little more roughage for them that they need as well. So, it is kind of an update that we had to pivot a little bit based off of our arborist's opinion on the the trees. And would it would it be accurate that we're basically this this is a stop gap um because we won't have winterlow and gives us something in the city and gives us time to to plan more because we have no planning time now. Correct. Yeah. Can we plant uh evergreen trees in the fall to be decorated later in the winter? That's something I can discuss with the arborist. Absolutely.

We have and determine that that's going to be too hard to try to pull power to. That's right. Cuz it's too we can't just cluster them in one area where we have power. Oh, it doesn't work that way. See, with the root balls, they could put them anywhere. Yeah. You put them at the power then. Yeah. Are we looking at doing any additional holiday decorating throughout the city? Is yes staff we've been discussing it and coming up some options that we'll be presenting hopefully next couple weeks because we could take the money that because didn't we donate to Winterglow in addition to the city? I think we just supported it, right? Yeah. Oh, I thought we donated to we supported the city's donation to Winter Globe, but isn't that can't be pivoted because it isn't it the hotel motel tax? No, it can be pivoted the 12,000 but the hotel motel t or the lodging tax advisory committee um Kyle that that's a $20,000 um expenditure and Kyle's going to address them to see if they would approve of spending the money towards our own winter event. So, he seems to think that they can, but but we don't know yet. We don't know yet. So, right now, what we know is we have $12,000 to put towards this winter event. And then we we did vote 8,000 towards the root ball trees, which is now potentially pivoting to disposable trees, whatever stand that staff comes up with, and potentially the city doing the lights and the families just doing the ornaments. So, I I think you're just looking to update us and and that we're still okay with the $8,000, correct? Yeah. Thank you. I think so. Thank you. All right, Katie. Bike safety. Okay.

We did just meet and uh because of I'm having to be gone for a little bit out. I'm having a shoulder surgery. We've moved the bike safety uh event to a park ride at the end of September uh Sunday, September 28th where we will be um doing kind of a family ride to all the parks in Liberty Lake and then they will stop by Pavilion Park and be able to go through a small course on bike safety. So that's kind of incorporating that into a family biking event, which could be fun. And uh so we talked uh we talked also about um let's see, let me just double check on my notes there. So, uh, the other thing we talked about that was brought forward is, and you've probably seen in other meetings is the issues with ebikes. And so, uh, Ben Turner, who was at our meeting, suggested it'd be maybe good to have some kind of workshop or town hall that would be open to the community to talk about, uh, safety with golf carts, with ebikes, regular bicycles, uh, pedestrian safety, kind of a big safety meeting and review the state laws because there are Washington state laws that have to do with ebikes. Uh, and I think because of all of it sudden a surge in all e everything and young young children using them that don't know the rules of the road, there's been a lot of scare for a lot of

adults that come around the corner and then there's an e scooter in the middle of the street, right? So, if we could have something like that, I think there's a big community need for that and the concerns around all the parks in Liberty Lake. Uh have some guidelines, you know, have the police there to and uh other bike safety advocates like me that would go over the rules of the road. Someone would cover golf cart uh laws and all those kind of things. I just think there needs to be a new refresh on safety in our community and on the streets, in our parks. Uh you can post things, but if we could do something, we got more community involvement. Uh the bike national bike alliance has this little booklet. It talks about ebikes, all different kinds of bicycling, sharing the road. Uh we could offer these. we were going to offer these anyway at our bike ride. Uh so I think there's a lot we could do and uh there's a little bit of a confusion over these little mini dirt bikes where they they're ebikes or dirt bike, you know what I mean? Or they think they're motorc. Yeah. So there's confusion in the community just about what is legal, what's not. Yeah. what how you classify these different things that are e that is a fantastic idea. Yeah, I get I think the trick is going to be how to get people to attend. Okay. Or how to get the information out to people that Yeah. won't attend. I mean the most Yeah. I think uh if you have a lot of different presenters maybe you know like

the police maybe firemen you know other uh bicycle advocates in our community uh maybe we serve cake or cookies too of food brings maybe we give away a free bike. We could I mean that's we could do that. I think it's a great idea. Uh yeah. So I think you know it would be great if we could figure out uh when we could do that even if we you know did it you know the first part of September or something like kids are getting back to school or you know and then do we want to develop kind of a in our parks some general guidelines? A lot of people don't read signs, but at least if they're there. A good idea. Some people might read them. Oh, I Or we could get creative with the signs. Maybe do some illustrations or something. I mean, I think I personally would rely on on your safety group to plan it and advise it and would have my full support. But I think it's a fantastic idea because safety is, you know, in recreation and using our parks and trails and sidewalks and streets is super important. We could have, you know, maybe one of the nurses or doctors present some of the information on crash data, you know, how many people get injured and like that, you know, I mean, there's a lot of basic facts people don't even know, you Yeah, a bike helmet saved my son's life when he crashed in 8th grade. Split the hel helmet right there and he still got a a bad concussion, but it was life saving. So, you have the helmet still. Well, you know, I I I think that putting together a program like that benefits everybody in the community whether they, you know, whether they come to the meeting or not. Okay.

um they'll see a safer city for bicyclists and carts and things like that. It'd be nice to have it videotaped, maybe put on our city website, do the presentations. Yeah, that would be, you know, so maybe they didn't get to it or, you know, you could refer to that later if we got the accurate information on one of our websites. Well, I think we we'd all look forward to bringing back the the plan and how we can help. Okay. So, I think do we have to set a date with the city though to do a town hall? Yes. So, should we How's the you because the restaurant is going to control the They are they already are controlling it. Can city use it for free? So we just have to coordinate what dates would be available. So could you help Katie with that? Is it more like a bike safety? I'd hesitate to call it a town hall. Yeah. Find find something a little more exciting. Just thinking of you know something where the community is invited too. Right. Yeah. I I get the idea of it. It was just we've had so many lately and yeah, they're not always successful. Yeah, just the label. I think the idea of food is always good. It'd be nice maybe if the splash could, you know, coordinate with the splash and have it be a feature article. So then it's like I know a lot of people probably just skim through the splash, but if it's the front page, then it's something that you might draw some people in. Yeah. Well, maybe do it in conjunction with your bike park ride and end it at the pavilion and then you're not trying to plan multiple events.

That's a good idea. I think we've learned too through the parks plan process that it's better for us to go to where the people are already then try to hold a town hall and ask them to come see us at un point. Okay. So, do you think like in the next month should figure out when the best time to do something like that is thinking about after school starts sometime or I mean summer it's out because Yeah. Yeah. Well, these issues are going to just continue. Yeah. So, if we could do something in September or October and figure out a catchy name, get food, and figure out the best place uh to have it, why don't you um team up with uh John Buosa and do it at the Cops Cruisers event at Meadowwood Tech. That's a huge car show with PD Military. Is that in September? Yeah. Oh, that's a good idea. Do you want me to send you his info? Yeah, I know. I We're talking about at a corner. Yeah. And the bike aspect would be a really good fit there. I mean, yeah. And there's plenty of air space for that kind of thing, too. That's a great idea, Jim. Great idea. I'll send you because contact and I can help you. Okay. Been a lot of All right. Well, event things. Yeah. Let's go down that. We need catchy names. I don't know. They're both, but I'll learn them. Here you go. everything you need to know but was afraid to ask. I will educate you all next meeting. And for the record, please note that Gary Edwards has joined us. Hi, Gary. Hi. Yeah, welcome. Am I late? Yeah, it started at four. Oh jeez, I thought it started at six. Sorry. Oops. That's okay. We're glad to see you.

So anyway, that's Yeah, that's about it. All right. For this. So the next items, the historical outlook, deliver the delivery light together update, and the call for collocations we've covered. So let's really quick do the staff high level. Yeah. So pretty much everything on the staff report we've already discussed. Um and the events you already know about. We do need to consider in one of our conversations here in the near future. um what the involvement should be from parks and arts commission on the city birthday event planning being whatever that is going to be and whatever it's going to look like because we need to start planning it probably this fall. When is the birthday? Next year. Next August. Is it our 100th? What's that? Is it our hundth? 25. Oh here. Obviously time doesn't go that by that fast. Um, and then Muel's working on a a rec tennis um potential program. And then um who could do the July 15th um council report? Did you anybody want to do it? And I cannot do it. I can't do it. Oh, I'm sorry. I will check my schedule. That date is standing out to me for some reason. So, I'll double check, but I can for sure put slides together if you need me to. Yeah, I I won't be here. So, um why don't you check your date and see if it's possible? And if not, we can pivot. Maybe one of our not here council people could do it. I possibly could do it if you put the slideshow together. Okay. And if Muel or Derek don't have anything else, um, oh, I have one one question. Could we for the the bathroom mural

project get someone to give us give Laura the dimensions of the two bathroom buildings and a photo of all four sides? Yeah. Which bathroom is it? Rocky and Orchard. Thank you. I had that on my list to do. Never. Yeah, if they and to get that to Laura as soon as it's reasonable for them to do it so she can start getting answers to some of those questions. Okay, our next meeting is scheduled for August 4th. And is there anything else? If not, we'll need a motion to adjourn. I move that we adjourn this meeting. Second. All in favor? I I oppose. Thank you for bearing with the long meeting. It's the budget should go a little smoother next time.