Community Engagement Commission - Regular Meeting

Welcome to the Wednesday, May 20th, 2026 Community Engagement Commission meeting. I'd like all this order to meeting, meeting to order. Okay.

So hopefully I know how to do this because I haven't shared a meeting before.

Let's do roll call. Robin Bechdahl? Here. Bill Norman is excused. Brittany Sitton? is at this time absent. Laurie Merkel, I haven't heard anything about giving excuse. So Laurie and Brittany, absent?

I guess so.

Ralph?

I'm here.

Leah, present. Mark Saba?

Here.

And that should be everybody. So with four people present, we should have a quorum. Okay. Did everybody have a chance to review the meeting minutes or I'm sorry, the agenda for tonight?

Yes.

Yes. Somebody like to.

I was, I was thinking about proposing moving a couple of things. I don't know. I was thinking of doing the, doing the farmer's market first. Because I just was at the farmer's market and I had questions. And I don't know if that would inform the discussion on the, you know.

I don't know the protocol for that, Ralph, so I'm going to say no just for that reason.

You certainly have the right to request to make a motion to move an agenda item that just requires a second. Okay. Oh, okay. I will just put out there that I did place Amy up first so she can do her part and then Leave.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Fine. And Amy is doing the sidewalk. Okay. Oh yeah. Very good. Yeah. Yeah. I've just, yeah. My, my proposal that we will move C and D ahead of B.

Okay. Do you want to make a proposal to postpone B until Bill and Brittany and Lori is back? Or do you want to still discuss that tonight?

I'm happy to discuss it. I don't know. What do you think?

I think we ought to... No, wait. I better get myself in. Okay, good. I think we ought to just postpone it until next meeting.

Yeah, okay.

Do you want to make a motion?

I'll make a motion that we move... Postpone B until next meeting.

One item per motion. One type of

Oh, you have one item. Okay.

If you're going to table and then move, it's a little technical thing.

All right. So let's propose that we table item B until next meeting when we have more people available.

Second.

Okay.

All in favor? Aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Okay. And then I, okay. So then we go right into C and B. D, that's fine.

OK, so then we need somebody to make a motion to approve the agenda as amended.

Correct. So you do not want to continue on with your change to the order? Well, that would move.

I think the B is a pretty substantive discussion.

So you are correct. You need to approve the agenda as amended. Correct. Somebody needs to make a motion.

I move that we accept the agenda as amended.

Second.

Thanks, Mark.

All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay. All right. So we will use the amended agenda tonight, which would table item B from the proposed agenda till next meeting when we have more folks here to discuss. Can we get a proposal or sorry, motion to approve the minutes from April 15th?

Yeah, I propose that we accept the minutes from April 15th.

Second. I'll give Robin the second on that one.

All in favor?

Aye.

Aye. Aye.

Okay. Do we have any public comments online or? Okay. City Hall update, David?

See, just want to add a couple of things to a couple of items on here. So hopefully we'll be discussing some things when we get to farmer's market regarding some of the items here. But I did just want to think on the item two regarding some of the things happening with micro mobility and education and all that. One of the things that got produced through the LLPD and staff was this chart, horizontal columns, vertical row, horizontal columns, vertical rows piece, the guide to micro mobility that debuted at farmer's market last Friday or Saturday, the day after the Friday that it got finished. I just want to publicly commend Ralph for even, it was interesting timing on this. I think it was the Friday before that town hall we had, I think April 28th. LLPD, Mark McEvoy and I were in a meeting kind of discussing what they wanted to say during this town hall. And then it was Mark McEvoy who came up with this idea of some kind of a map of this, a guide to understanding some of these vehicles. And his rough-drawn, literally rough-drawn concept turned out to be very similar to something that Ralph emailed me like the following, what was that, like the following Tuesday or something. Columns are very similar. The rows are very similar. And I just want to kind of publicly commend Ralph for independently, without knowing this was going on, doing some computer research and sending me what started the seed, the genesis of this piece that got put out. And it went through several versions among LLPD and City Hall and back and forth. But really, the thing I started with was what Ralph had sent me. Again, independently, I didn't even know it was coming. But thank you for doing a big part of what I knew I had to do.

My pleasure.

You gave me some stuff to start with.

Yeah. You can thank AI. Really, you did it. I just said it and done.

I'm going to thank RC instead. And then down on item three, where I have upcoming dates, and there's the last one that's kind of between pages one and two. I put that in, there's some information there that you may want to be looking at when you get to item 6E regarding that volunteer and service expo, particularly the thing I underlined there. I just wanted to underline that so you could DOVETAIL BACK TO THAT WHEN YOU DISCUSS ITEM ON 6E. OTHER ITEM I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, I FIGURED THIS WAS COMING DURING LAST NIGHT'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND IT DID. Mark McAvoy presented some results and next steps regarding the city logo process. And, you know, we all know what happened with that, you know, a few meetings back. After we had this community gathering at the library a few weeks back towards, I think, end of April, we had a lot of good conversations. I had hoped that there would have been more people attending that for all the contacts we had made, all the attempts to reach out. Again, I want to also publicly thank Mark and Robin for showing up, being part of that group. And everybody contributed well. It was also especially nice to see two faces I had never seen before at any city-related event. Would I have loved to have seen more? Yes, but I love seeing the two that we had there. And I will also publicly thank Laurie for providing the lead on one of those people who did show up and I was able to make a personal contact with him ahead of time. And he among, with everybody else in that room provided good comments, good dialogue. I could tell that there was good thought processing happening among the people in that group. I could tell that some people's ideas were changing just through the dialogue that was happening. Everybody contributed well. So then after that, we took those ideas that came out from that in-person meeting into a short survey that Mark McEvoy primarily put together. That online survey was up for, I think, around two weeks. I did some checking. We had 264 people who completed that survey. which to me is a great number for a very limited narrow focused survey that was only up for a couple of weeks, you know, just on the logo. Didn't have too many questions on there, but from those findings, Mark McEvoy reported last night, there was a question that we looked at some of the overall thoughts and ideas that came out of that group meeting, ideas people had about the existing logo. So there was like a combined four-item question number one. And that first question was the community group thought that the current logo was too confusing and busy, feels antiquated and tired. The colors were not vibrant. The fonts were inconsistent and hard to read. Do you agree, disagree, strongly disagree? not care strongly oppose whatever. And of the 264 people who completed that survey, Mark show this chart last night at City Council. If you combine this strongly agrees and the agrees together 57% of the people that you see a 57% of the people agreed that these issues were issues with the logo that they they agreed with as well. And of those who disagreed or strongly disagreed with these feelings about the logo, just 28%. So almost about a two to one sentiment, certainly a majority sentiment that the public who did the survey had some issues with the logo without it, there were some problems with it. I'm going to do some screen grabs of the last night city council meeting and send those to you just so you can see the charts. I just saw that it popped up on YouTube earlier today. So send those out to you tomorrow. And then let's see. So the next steps on this is we had some interviews with, I think it was four different graphic design related agencies to see who could do this, what would their cost be, what would be their proposal. What's the timeline that they can do? Because right now we're under the requests from the city council to have something unveiled for 4th of July event. You know my opinions on that because it's the shared opinion this group has had a couple months ago on that. Mark made the comment at the meeting last night that, I wish I could remember his exact words, but he felt that that was going to be a very difficult timeline to try to meet. He told that to the council last night. But right now that's the timeline we're having to work with and as the progress goes, we'll see what happens. I think one of the upcoming steps that he talked about was once we get some initial conceptual designs, like maybe two or three, we will take those out to the public and that's where you folks will come in and we'll do some farmers market in-person surveys, getting some feedback from the general public during the next, hopefully not too many, few weeks from now. He did also announce that we did choose to go with an organization called Visit Spokane. This is a tourism group that the city already has an interlocal agreement with. Visit Spokane told us that they could do this work for us as part of our existing interlocal agreement, which means We're not paying them extra money to do graphic design services. So for those people out there online on certain social media sites who are claiming that this would quote, cost tens of thousands of dollars, Business Spokane tells us that this will just be part of our regular ongoing financial agreement with them. Nothing extra for it.

That's only if we choose to go with their services?

Yes. So right now we have selected them. And of course, there could always be the possibility down the road that maybe we don't like any of the designs and maybe we look at another group. But right now we're going with them and we're looking forward to doing this enhanced stage of this relationship we have with this tourism group.

Sounds great.

Awesome.

Thank you for the update. And I will keep you updated as far as where we are as new logo designs come in and when you folks will be taken to the outdoor tables and booths at Farmer's Market and interacting with the public on this.

Dot charts. And thank you, Robin and Mark, for being part of that. I appreciate it. Um, next up, uh, we'll move up to our, um, discussions and business, um, item a sidewalk master plan and the upcoming public engagement. We're going to hear from Amy.

Good evening commissioners online and in person. Um, thank you for giving me this time. I should be relatively brief.

Can I introduce you first? This is the art. Some of you may not know this. Uh, Amy is our new community. development director, officially got appointed by the city council end of April, officially started the job 1st of May.

Been here for a few years, though, and... Been here for four, been doing the community development job since January-ish.

And while you're at it, because this is always an issue with you, out of your own mouth, how do you pronounce your last name? Muller Lyle.

Muller Lyle. Okay. Yes.

Okay.

So... Okay.

So you guys are probably all aware either directly or indirectly that we've been working on a sidewalk master plan. Some of you have been involved in the capital facilities work group or we had a stakeholders group. I know Mark Sabo was part of that. And so we we've been working on the plan. We've been working with a consultant. We've had a stakeholder group provide us input on kind of what are the priorities? Where should we be looking to kind of focus our attention first? And so we kind of have all of that wrapped up and we took that to council, presented it to council and council asked us to do a little bit more engagement on. well, kind of a two-prong engagement. They'd like to see us do a little bit more outreach for education purposes to kind of ask if people are aware of how sidewalks are repaired right now, which is the property owner that is adjacent to the broken sidewalk is responsible for the replacement. And staff has a strong sentiment that maybe people aren't even aware that that is the current rule. And so we'd like to make sure that we, number one, educate people on how that process currently goes And at that point, kind of ask, is that the process that you'd like to see? Or would you like to see the city kind of take over that role? And if the answer to that is yes, then kind of try and gauge people's thresholds for what they would be willing to pay into the advanced services that we would be offering. You know, those things cost money. Those things take staff resources. They take materials. They take time. They take program management. And so just trying to kind of understand how people would like to see that roll out. And so we've engaged SCJ, who did the original master plan for us, to help us with some of that engagement stuff. And we would like to have them come back with this group and kind of, how did Mark put it? Train the trainers. So kind of walk you guys through what, you know, well, first we'd like to get your input on what you'd like to see in the engagement, how we would like to see some of that engagement go. They're going to come with some ideas and then kind of work with this group to kind of arm you guys to be able to go to farmer's market and kind of draw this out of people. But also hopefully, provide some examples that then can be used by this group onto other projects. So kind of a twofold approach to that. So once we kind of go out to the public and we kind of educate them and also get feedback on what they'd like to see and how they'd like to see this kind of move forward, how they would like to see sidewalks repaired in the future, and then kind of funnel that back to council. And then council is hoping that we can get that feedback back to them so it can be incorporated into the budget process this fall.

So my question is, so there's various options. The city can, I don't know, do part of it or some of it or whatever. But do we have dollar numbers with these options so that when we ask somebody, are you comfortable with that kind of money? Or is it, I mean, if you tell them just open-ended, I'm a little bit worried about that, but.

Yeah, that's fair. And that would be something that we could kind of integrate into how we how we put together the materials and how we ask the questions. I believe we'll have some kind of context, but it's more. It wouldn't be. Are you willing to give us ten dollars to do this? That would be the question that we're asking. Would you be willing to like if you would like to see the city take it over? you know, these are kind of the tiers of investment that would be required for the different types of programs that could be offered. And which ones would you be comfortable with? Where would you be comfortable supporting or not supporting that?

So one option is they just take it over altogether. Another option is that the city organizes it and the residents pay for it.

That is one of the options, yes.

And so those are going to have quite different numbers on them, I imagine. Yeah, OK.

So I have a question about how things are currently done as far as non-compliance and enforcement is there is there anything in the ordinance where they could be ticketed or where they would um fall under liability if somebody were to be injured on the sidewalk like what are the consequences if people don't fix their sidewalks now because i i saw with like the micro mobility stuff that people were not interested in understanding what the laws were and how they work or whatever until there was a potential consequence for them

Yeah, so there is liability because our code does say that you are responsible for the maintenance of the sidewalk in front of your property. So there is liability to the property owner should someone trip and fall and hurt themselves on a broken sidewalk panel in front of their house. the city also owns some of that liability because it is a public a public facility so there is always going to be liability to the city in that way um we do have some enforcement mechanisms i believe in and our code enforcement officer would be able to answer that question a lot a lot more clearly than mine but um i believe there is an opportunity to to ticket someone um But I don't believe that the mechanism we have is to then follow up on that portion of it. I think from what I've understood from her, the enforcement portions of our code make it really difficult for us to do that in a way that makes sense.

Do we have any sort of like, because we did the sidewalk scan, right? Do we have any way to like notify property owners of like your sidewalk has been identified as, you know, being deteriorated and needing replacement under current code, blah, blah, blah. it falls as your responsibility. I'm sure it would make people mad, but it's the current law. And then maybe if we sent out some of those notices and just said, hey, coming up on wanting to maintain our walkable city, these notices are going out. The city has options for you and we would like your engagement on how we would like to see this going forward. I think that is a terrific idea.

Yeah, I think that's a great idea. So right now, something similar like that is happening, but it's falling on our code enforcement officer. And so, you know, as we're kind of having these conversations, sometimes these repairs can be expensive and they can take quite a bit of time. And so she's also trying to be judicious in where she kind of places those efforts right now on the most extreme cases so that, you know, she's not telling somebody to fix a sidewalk. And then six months later, we're coming out with a program that we're going to fix the sidewalk.

Or maybe use it as an invitation to be part of the discussion that like your property has been identified as, you know, going to be affected by this. And right now we're collecting community engagement regarding these upcoming changes on how this is going to be handled going forward. Please share your voice, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. share it widely, but I think that the people that it would affect directly and soon, um, I think that those are people that we're going to want to hear from. I think that's an excellent point.

Yeah. That's a really good point. And it, it, I don't know the answer to this, so I don't know exactly how many of the extreme and the severe property owners we would have to send that kind of letter to. And so just kind of managing that from an administrative perspective and making sure that we're not putting, you know, putting it on our code enforcement officer to send out like 600 letters. You know, it's just kind of trying to make sure that we're managing that.

But I think that's a really good rating, doing it based on the ratings that we're there and saying like, if it's, you know, six or higher or whatever, we're going to send this letter.

Yeah. Yeah. I think that's a really good idea.

I don't know. Amy.

Yes.

One other thing in the past, the HOAs have also been behind this sending out letters. If you haven't been able, if you haven't known that, But yeah, the HOAs have been in the past. Now, I can't speak for my HOA lately because... the management team isn't even worth talking about. But in the past, when they had people actually going out and surveying the streets and everything, the neighborhoods, I should say, yeah, they would send out letters to people that needed to address their sidewalks. So might want to bring them into the picture too. Exactly.

Does anybody know how many HOAs we have in the city?

Well, what you're talking about with the main part of the city, I'm talking Meadowood Estates and the cottage, they're all under one. And then Greyhawk is under its own HOA. Okay. And then the river district is under theirs and then legacy has their own. So I think, I think enter Tina. Yeah. They got, so maybe five Ralph, maybe five, I would say.

Which those newer areas of the city aren't going to be as they're not going to be affected as disproportionately as the Meadowood.

Right. It's the Meadowood is the main focus. You're right. And, and areas of the river district also.

Yeah. Older areas.

Yeah.

Do we have any more questions for Amy?

Do you have anything you want to add about next steps for this group?

Oh yeah. So just, um, it's coming, I guess would be the first thing. So what we're, we're hoping to do is we're going to get back together with SCJ and kind of, they were going to drum up some ideas and give us some concepts. And then we were going to try and get them on your guys's agenda to be able to kind of come back and, and workshop some of those ideas with you guys, and then figure out an action plan, the next steps to move forward with what we kind of agree on is the good engagement plan. Wonderful.

I think Leah's idea about, uh, enforcement i mean it doesn't have to be enforcement it's just informing them no i think that's great it goes right into the education just information don't threaten them just say hey here's what's going on currently this is the situation you're responsible and then you know

Like if we have a city council meeting where it's going to be discussed, you know, say like, it's going to be discussed here at, you know, there's a lot of options and, um, but we don't, I know code enforcement is only really like one person, so they've got their hands full.

Yeah, she does, but she does a great job. And I, I know sidewalks are one thing that she, she would like to see, um, that process move forward. And so I think that she would be happy to help. And We've got other people on the team that would be happy to help, and I think that we can do that. I think that's a really good idea, especially once we have things to invite them to. If we know when we're going to be at the farmer's market collecting information, if we know when the survey is going to be out, if we know when city council is going to be discussing the topic again, then we can give them some actionable items of, this is when we need you to show up and use your voice.

Yeah.

I think that's a good idea.

And I think to Mark's point, engage indirectly with the, specifically the Meadowood HOAs for that. Yeah. That's a great idea too.

Awesome.

Great.

Thank you, Amy. Thank you.

Um, next item, um, since we're going to skip item B and save that for next month, um, let's move on to farmer's market, which Ralph, where you are our first person. I was, you were okay. Let's let's hear about it.

Well, it was miserable.

We were out picking trash with rotary.

You, you were, yeah. I saw you there.

Yeah. It was pretty wet.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, it was, it was cold. and it was wet, and I was amazed there weren't any people there at all, but...

There was a good turnout.

I thought there was too. Yeah, I thought there was too.

Did you have much opportunity to chat with people and engage?

Well, I'm a little frustrated about that. I don't think I really had my method down very well. I mean, I was wondering, because, you know, I've done lots of, like, trade shows, and... where you find a hook to get people into the booth, like give away food or pens or magnets or some damn thing, you know.

Gifting of public funds. We probably can't do that.

Well, no, but don't we have a budget? I mean, it doesn't cost much.

Oh, I don't know. This comes up a lot.

This will come up, I think, every year for four years.

And the state laws legally do not allow us to use public funds for those types of giveaways. Now, we can get donations from other organizations to us that we can give out. A few years back, they had little city flags that I think Kiwanis had provided the funding on. We can do, I'm going to add an asterisk to what I just said. I can remember, I think it was last year, Robin was wanting to distribute some stickers for something. And that became an issue. But then Kyle said, you know, if we can tie it in with a city program. So I said to Kyle, what if we were to get some goat stickers? Because we have a lot of city goats. So we were okay with spending city funds on buying goat stickers. I don't know. Robin, do we still have goat stickers? No.

Okay. Sorry. Well, we, we never went through with that actually. Mark Saba and I, we were looking at it, but it was late in the farmer's market. I've always, we've done really well when I've worked with the library because the library, I don't know, they get to get stickers and candy and stamps and everything. And, and it works really well to draw people. Is that who is that? you're only going to get a select audience that's going to bother to stop by.

Usually when I've had people stop in, they have a question about what's coming up in the city, what's being built here, that sort of thing. We don't have a super enticing product unless people want information. That's what they want.

And that did happen. there were people coming in to talk about projects. And that was great. And now one thing I was wondering, because I looked at the planning commission page, and it's got a section in there that says all current projects and permits, but it doesn't have anything in it. I mean, it's got a little bit in it, but it's not very rich. And I was wondering if if that shouldn't be a better resource for, I don't know why it's not.

Is that on the planning commission page or is on the community development? And gosh darn it, we just had a person in here who could answer that.

Yeah, I don't know. I'd have to look. I'm not sure.

Well, two years ago, we used to have a cheat sheet. David, remember?

Yeah.

It was produced by, I think, Lisa. She would give us a cheat sheet, and she'd update it every couple weeks. And it basically told us what the upcoming projects and current projects were happening throughout the city.

Was that just like a basic Word document?

Yeah, yeah, just a laminated cheat sheet that we had that we could refer to when people asked questions. And the questions at the farmer's market, 90% of them is what's happening here and what's happening there.

Community Facebook page, people are still asking what's being built next to Ridgeline.

Yeah, I know. I saw that.

I just happened to reach out to Amy like about a week ago and said, I was asking for kind of this very thing. And so I have this bullet point of about seven things for an April 2026 update. I don't know how well that's coming across for Mark or Robin. But I was going to hand it to whoever's got assignments for this Saturday. I can do a three-hole punch on this thing. You can add this to the binder. So I'm guessing this is the sort of update we're doing now from community development. And that will give you the list of what's happening with Moulton Avenue right now, Mission Avenue frontage improvements, etc. That's exactly what we used to have.

Some of the stuff, like what's going on next to the high school, I guess nobody knows.

Yeah. Who's on tap for Saturday?

I think Robin is on tap for...

Okay.

I did look at that. Robin is the only one signed up for one of the two hours, so we need somebody else for...

I got Memorial Day happening this weekend with the pancake breakfast that I'm co-chair on.

I think what I saw, Robin is there in the morning, that Linda Ball is there for the last two hours. I just sent out a link to everybody at like five o'clock, just in case somebody wanted to log in there and see if you can sign up for something either this Saturday or later on. Yeah. Robin, I will find a way to get this into the binder for this weekend.

There is no binder. Does Bill still have it? Bill still has it. There was no binder out there. There was no binder.

He's away right now. Robin, I will email this to you.

Okay. Any other farmer's market news?

Let's see. Yeah, I thought, well, one thing I thought, I mean, you need to be a little bit of a carnival barker to get people to come in. So I thought about, well, I could ask, what's the one thing you'd like to change about the city? Because it's the negative stuff that you want. And then we could tell them how to use this see and click thing.

Oh, yeah.

And because that is a really great piece of software. And so I was thinking, well, that might work. I'm just trying to think of, you know, and the other thing that crossed my mind was, you know, what has the city council done this year? You know, what can we say that are major things? I mean, the micro mobility thing is a big deal. And I don't know, I have to think, go back through the minutes and think about what the other projects are, and then what's coming up and to get people engaged in those, those kinds of things, you know, have some kind of a list.

Robin's good at putting up a question when she's there to engage people and draw their interest.

Yeah.

I can put together some sort of a laminated poster on C Click Fix for this weekend.

Yeah, because we just download that from... We just go to...

Last year, you had kind of like a little poster of upcoming city events, and I handed a bunch of those little flyers down.

There is, they did have that, you know, but it's the parks and it's the, that kind of stuff. It's not the council stuff.

Yeah, I'm talking more like community events, like the better together.

Pancake breakfast.

Yeah, pancake breakfast.

That was there.

Nobody that watches this online.

Uh, let me see if, um, you know, I, I, I do put some things about city council in your updates, but that's not certainly everything you do. No, I mainly focus those updates on.

Yeah.

Community engagement type.

Right.

Activities, but let me go through the last few months and see if there's like a bullet point.

Yeah. Something like that. So this is what your council's doing. And, um,

A lot of that information comes from the city hall updates that you give us, I think.

Hey, Ralph, that's a good idea, except for the fact that we already got a council person there.

Well, I know that. We can answer their questions. That's great if there's a question, but, you know, so I'm thinking Carnival Barker, so I'm going to be out there. Here, would you like to know what your city's doing? And do you have any you know, what's, what makes you angry about, or what needs to be changed? If you could change one thing, what would it be?

You gotta be careful how you, I had a lady like talk my ear off for like 40 minutes about it. It like went down a rabbit hole.

I hear you.

And I hear that. I told my husband about it and he's like, well, you're new to public service. You need to ask her like, and what would you like the city to do about it? Because a lot of times they just want to rant and rave and they don't actually want to like look for a solution. Yeah, right. So that is something to protect your time that you might want to consider. Yeah. Anything else or should we move on to the next agenda item? No, that's fine. Okay. April 20th, Taylor Hall on e-bikes, golf carts, and e-scooters. I think I saw Ralph there. Who else was there?

Robin was there.

Robin was there.

Mark was there.

Yeah, I was there.

Yeah, okay. Okay. I don't remember. My life is a blur. Great turnout. Great information. I was so proud of all the kids that showed up to get informed and to potentially advocate for themselves. There wasn't really much of a venue for that. Thought that the police department and fire department did a great job on putting together, you know, factual evidence. information and a thoughtful plan presentation on what they were going to do. I have seen police at Pavilion Park with lights on talking to kids on little motorcycles and the signs that they put up at the parks as well informing about what's allowed and what's not allowed. So, I mean, people can't say that they were not informed if they're just choosing. I mean, you'd really have to bury your head in the sand at this point to not know the rules and regulations and the stuff. So there are still people that are going to be surprised by it. My, my son kind of told kids at school that it was coming. They're like, nah, and then they got stopped.

So, okay.

You know, I think I sent that micromobility chart only to Robin and Ralph Friday because it just got done. And the two of you were signed up for Farmer's Market the next day. I'm going to send that to everybody.

Yeah. Well, you put a bundle in the box and that was good. And to my notes. There was a, you know, I don't know what you call those old transparency, not transparency, but a laminated thing that hung on the post. Yeah.

Yep.

Those were good efforts.

Any other questions or comments?

At the farmer's market, I didn't get a lot of people that wanted to talk about that. They

I would say most of the people I see at the farmer's market, if they have bicycles, they're traditional bicycles.

Yeah, right. They didn't really want to talk about it, which is interesting, because I think what they're saying is, look, I'm doing what I want to do, and I don't really care about the rules.

I feel like I've already seen fewer... I guess like nonsense activities on golf carts and things. Oh, good. I mean, I feel like it's been noticeably less golf cart traffic, particularly from the use.

Well, the other thing I wanted to say is I think, so there's these electric skateboards too, which I think.

I believe those are covered under the scooters.

Under the scooters, right. That's what I was assuming. And they got those things, the one wheel. They're called a one wheel. Yeah. Is that what it's called? Yeah.

uh i know a couple people that have broken their collarbones on them yeah yeah yeah okay um i'm i'm sure they have their rules and enforcement or whatever for that they probably fall under scooters as well so i think that's right okay good okay um next agenda item unless mark or robin did you have any comments about town the town hall nope well i or i don't personally Okay, so item E, CEC table at the Volunteer and Service Expo, June 18th, 5 to 7. I tentatively can commit to going to that and I can do it on behalf of CEC and or Rotary since both organizations will be represented there. I just need to check with my husband on something because I see he has something on the calendar and I need to find out if he's wanting me to go with him to that. Was there anybody else who wanted to do that because they said looking for one to three CEC members who would want to do a station for the two hours or split each hour?

I'm doing another station and I'll be on for the Friends of the Liberty Lake Library, so I won't be able to do that.

I can probably do it.

Yeah. Maybe I'll just wear my Rotary shirt and be both. Show people that you can commit to multiple things. Yeah.

We will have some flyers out there for that for recruitment for two spots now.

Okay. Great. So let's just do it via email in case, you know, Brittany or Lori or Bill want to be involved in that as well. Because if CEC fills up, I might just do Rotary.

But plan on going.

We will have some poster signage on that for, again, Farmer's Market. Not this week, but next week. There's a couple things still developing about that event, and I need to confirm what's happening with that budget-wise. And all I will very vaguely say is it's kind of in the realm of the term charcuterie. So I need to know what, there's something I want to be able to advertise, but I have to wait to make sure, can we say we're advertising this yet or not, so.

So what is the intended marketing scheme going to be for that? Are we going to do A-boards and just post online?

I haven't heard any frames yet, but there's going to be a very short blurb and splash next month. I just ended that material this afternoon. Reader board, Facebook, city's homepage.

Just like want to know how to get involved in Liberty Lake? Do you have more time than you know what to do with?

And like I said, the poster, I can see distributing that to a few businesses in town too. Similar to the flyer that Dan sent out to you last month for the one in, is that Marysville? Marysville?

Maple Valley. Maple Valley, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, okay.

I think it's a really interesting idea. If it catches on.

Yeah, I mean, it's a great way. It's kind of like a career expo, but for volunteers, which I think is cool. Right. Definitely should put up some flyers at, you know, different places like, I don't know, senior centers, community centers, things like that, where there's a lot of traffic.

Okay.

I think it's a great idea. It's worth trying.

Yeah, definitely.

Even if, you know, a couple of the organizations get, you know, one new member, I feel like it's worth doing. Absolutely. Um, any other upcoming opportunities or is there anything needed for the, um, 250th slash 25th anniversary celebration? Fourth of July.

We haven't had a meeting for a few weeks that Mark's been involved with those meetings too. Um, I will put out a call to Mikhail and see what he may want some of you to do. I think there's the plan again to have a couple of city booths at that thing. And I think the thing I've heard, and Mark, let me know if you remember this correctly, as I'm remembering it, Rocks Painting Station for Kids, just like we did with Barefoot in the Park in August.

Yeah, and that's going to be run by the parks and the CEC.

Yeah, last year GenCamp had the interactive board where people could say like what types of playground equipment they'd want to see. So I'd love to see some sort of engagement project there, whether that's, you know, more stuff with the parks or what other opportunities do we have? Rumor. Sidewalks are not as sexy as, you know, talking about park equipment. But, I mean, I guess that's some feedback that they want to get.

It's possible. I mentioned this, I think, on the update, but Gen Camp might be at the next meeting of this group next month. And there's a possibility that there could be a similar engagement ready to go for that for July 4th. We'll see what happens.

Okay, cool. Are we going to do signups for that like we normally do for Barefoot in the Park now that it's over a holiday weekend?

Yes.

All right. Any other upcoming opportunities that people want to discuss?

I think we need to start, you know, every year we have to do our annual report. So I think we need to start looking at that. And budget? I don't really see us ever meeting the budget anymore because most of the time it's the project managers from the other departments that take on that.

Are you willing to work on that, Robin? Because you've done such a fantastic job. I'd be willing to help you with it.

You know, I mean, we can do that. It's not... I don't think it's going to be a large report, really. Fair enough.

Okay. Yes, I do believe that that's because we need to have that ready for what, like October or November?

At the end of August.

End of August?

It's end of August.

Time flies. Okay. Yeah, if you want some help working on that, Robin, I'd be happy to help you. Okay. Okay. Okay, so next meeting is June 17th at 6 p.m. Any requested items for the agenda other than item B that we moved forward?

I think you just mentioned the budget.

Yeah, the budget slash annual report.

Help me with that a little bit.

We have to present it to council each year.

Okay.

And Robin does a fantastic job with it.

Okay.

very professional. What was the other thing that we needed to talk about?

And that kind of references our statute. And then you try and add what we've done along that line. That's the idea, Robin.

So, yeah. Yeah, it does, Ralph. You try and match it up with the ordinance the best possible.

Yeah.

So maybe one of the things that we could do on the June 16th meeting, since it's right before the Volunteer and Service Expo, maybe we can work on compiling a list of, you know, like accomplishments that we've done as part of that same discussion that we're going to do with item B. Talk about our accomplishments and what our purpose is. So when people ask us, you know, what do you do here? We have some, you know, things to show them that like, Hey, we, we have done this and we accomplished that. And these are the things that we're hoping to do.

So that's the day before the event, right? Two days. That's still plenty of time for me to come up with some poster based on that or.

I mean, even if it's not a poster, we could just have some talking points about, you know, what is the CEC and what do we do? Yeah. That would be.

me putting more work on david's plate is is that too short a notice it can be done okay yes so i've now the uh the 277 ordinance it has not been amended yet for the stuff that we talked about earlier no uh yeah i'm glad you brought that up um this we haven't given an update on this yet i was kind of wondering myself too

The city council is currently going through a process of looking at their rules of governance.

Oh, yeah.

And from what I understand, those proposed amendments on like term limits, et cetera, those are going to be looked at as part of that, not just for this group, but I think maybe for other slash all other commissions and boards.

Oh, okay.

And I know they had a workshop on this a week ago, and I know they're not done yet.

Okay. Listen to some of that. That was a lot of legalese in that.

Mark or Robin, do you have any other agenda items that you would like to propose for next meeting?

Not me at this time, Leah. Thank you.

Okay. No. Dovetailing back to budget, I'm going to do some investigating because I recall this group a year ago. authorized monies to be expended for stickers. And I just found out that you decided not to purchase those because it was towards the end of the year. I'm going to ask around to people on the other side of this building tomorrow, find out that since the CEC did vote for this some months ago, can that still be authorized to purchase some goat stickers? And I will follow up on that and see if we can find out.

Okay.

We're so early in the year this time.

Um, okay. Anything else? Got my, okay. Then I'm going to say that we're adjourned. Okay. Thank you very much.

Great work on the ballot.

Bye. Thank you. Leave something to be desired.

Yeah.

Is Shane here? Is he still recording?

Okay.

I just turned off my mic.

We decided to adjourn while you were out of the office. You're all good.

All right.