Board of Commissioners - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, May 5, 2026

The Liberty County Board of Commissioners held its first meeting of the month, addressing proclamations for National Day of Prayer, EMS Week, and Mental Health Awareness Month. The board also discussed a proposed subdivision with wetland access issues and approved an increase in alcohol license fees.

About this meeting

Government Body
Board of Commissioners
Meeting Type
Board Of Commissioners
Location
Liberty County, GA
Meeting Date
May 5, 2026

Transcript

157 sections (from 777 segments)

7:47Speaker 1

Good evening.

7:49 – 8:40Speaker 1

It are we ready? Thank you so much. Good to see everyone. Thank you for coming to the uh first meeting of the month of Liberty County Board of Commissioners. Uh commissioners. Uh Miss Mona asked that we speak closer to the mic so that our comments are picked up. Uh it's not I thought it was that she wasn't hearing the motions, but she's hearing that. some of the dialogue that we are sharing is not being picked up. So, let's remind ourselves to speak closer to the mic. Um, and I'm not sure our team you can even you can even tell what ours are. Good. Okay. All right. Good. Good to see everyone. Thank you for coming. Uh, Commissioners Gillard and Fraser at the I'm not mistaken, Liberty County High Awards Program uh for awards. It's that time in Liberty County. He's getting near graduation. So, they're happy to present some awards. So, at this time, uh, Mr. Moses has the medium improperly advertised.

8:40 – 9:30Speaker 1

I see evidence there. Thank you so much. This time, Bishop Paige, will you, Kendall Page, will you please come and lead us in our prayer and our invocation? Please stand if you will. Good evening. Good evening. Let's pray. Most holy and righteous God, we come to you this evening to thank you for grace and mercy. Thank you for your loving kindness towards us. God, we thank you for this uh this the county commissioners. God, we pray that you will give them the wisdom that they need to navigate uh through u these difficult uh situations and circumstances and making decisions for our county for the better of our county. God, we thank you for the absent portion. We pray for the uh Commissioner Walden for him to get um uh his recovery. Well, Father, in the name of Jesus, we thank you, God, for all you're doing in in this county. In Jesus name we do pray and give you praise. Amen.

9:30 – 9:59Speaker 1

Amen. That's right. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic to which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, sir. Is there someone in here who could give us just a little more AC or is there something going on we don't know about? I hope

9:57 – 10:36Speaker 1

I wasn't trying to get you to do. I thought, but I know who had to Thank you. All right. Thank you so kindly, Mr. Mosley. Jack of all trades.

10:37 – 11:17Speaker 1

Uh, meetings for the month of April, April 7th, and April 26 will require our approval. The chair sending a motion. If when you make your motion, please raise your hand so Monica can also have it clearer. So move. Second. Did that work? Okay. Any further discussion? All in favor? Sign of I. Nay. Same sign. Thank you. Well, we'll do that, too, Commissioner. If I saw you. Okay. All right. Right on to proclamations. National Day of Prayer. Dr. Irving White is here. He was here last meeting. Good to see you. We didn't scare him off. He came back. He came back. He's like the lady in the Bible. Persevere. Persever.

11:16 – 12:19Speaker 1

Thank you for this opportunity, chairman. I am here on behalf of the United Ministerial Alliance of Liberty County. Um, our president, Pastor Bishop Kendall Page, and the pastors that represent the NA United Ministerial Alliance. We are here requesting a proclamation for the 75th annual National Day of Prayer, which will be held this Thursday at 7 at 12:00 p.m. and um at the courthouse. The theme for 22 26 is glorify God among the nations seeking him in all generations and that is based on 1 Chronicles 16- 24. This day of observance brings Americans closer together to pray in churches, school and in state houses. And with the national broadcast from Washington DC, we in Liberty County will be honoring that day as well. And at this time, I'd like to bring forth the pastors of the United Ministerial Alliance.

12:18 – 12:51Speaker 1

They will come forward. Good to have you all with us in mass today. I had to give you a raise. What we what we'll do um uh Mr. White and delegation, uh the county administrator will read the proclamation and you all will hold your places and we have two others to follow. Then we'll all just follow through for the for the photo op. Okay. All right. In fact, when you guys done, just kind of shift to the what's that to the right. All right, Miss Mosley.

12:49 – 14:15Speaker 1

Proclamation National Day of Prayer. I'm going to read it in short form. Whereas the National Day of Prayer was created in 1952 by joint resolution of the United States Congress and signed into law by President Harry S. Truman. And whereas the year of 2026 will mark the 70th anniversary of the observance of the national day of prayer with the theme being glory glorify God among the nations seeking him in all in all generations. And whereas the 20 2016 glorify God among the nations seeking him in all generations is based on 1 Chronicles 16- 24 tell of his glory among the nations his wonderful deeds among all the people. And whereas it is fitting and proper for the residents of Liberty County to collectively take the time to observe a day of prayer and contemplation to acknowledge our freedoms and express gratitude for them. We also recognize the men and women in our nation's armed forces both past and present. Because of their service and sacrifice, we live in a country where people of all faiths can worship according to the dictates of their conscience. Now therefore, I, Donald L. Love Levit, chairman of the commission and the board of commissioners, proclaim May 7th, 2026 as a national day of prayer in Liberty County, Georgia, and urge citizens to observe this day in ways consistent with their beliefs and appropriate to its importance and significance. Signed the fifth day of May, 2026.

14:12 – 14:24Speaker 1

All right, let's give that shift shift behind that table there. Our National EMS week, Mr. Jean Long.

14:30Speaker 1

Hello, sir. Good evening. How are you? Great. How are y'all? Good. Good.

14:34 – 15:19Speaker 1

Uh, good evening, chairman, commissioners. As we recognize EMS week this May 17th through the 23rd and this year's theme, improving outcomes together, I would like to highlight the critical role our EMS professionals play in the health and safety of our community. Every day, our EMTs and paramedics work long hours in unpredictable and often difficult conditions, sacrificing time with their families to answer the call. No matter the hour or the circumstance, their commitment, resilience, and teamwork with our healthcare and public safety partners are what truly improve outcomes for those we serve. This proclamation helps recognize their dedication and supports the vital work they do for our county.

15:17Speaker 1

Thank you, sir. Miss Mosley,

15:19 – 16:39Speaker 1

proclamation to designate the week of May 17 through 23rd, 2026 as emergency medical services week. Whereas emergency medical services is a vital public service. And whereas access to quality emergency care dramatically improves the survival and recover rate of those who experience sudden illness or injury. And whereas the emergency medical service system consists of first responders, emergency medical technicians, paramedics, emergency medical dispatchers, firefighters, police officers, educators, administrators, prehosp nurses, emergency nurses, emergency physicians, trained members of the public, and other out of hospital medical care providers. And whereas it is appropriate to recognize the value and the accomplishments of emergency medical service providers by designating the emergency medical service week. Now, therefore, I, Donald L. Love it, and the Liberty County Board of Commissioners, in recognition of this event, do hereby proclaim the week of May 17th through 23rd, 2026 as Emergency Medical Service Week. The 52nd anniversary of EMS week theme is EMS week, improving outcomes together. I encourage the community to observe this week with appropriate programs, ceremonies, and activities in honor of the EMS profession and essential service it provides.

16:36 – 17:08Speaker 1

Sheen, give express our appreciation to your team, sir, for the work they do every day. Thank you. We appreciate it and all y'all support as well. You just joined that prestigious group over there. Livery County Mental Health Awareness Month, Dr. Ashley Allen, CEO. Good evening. And company.

17:08 – 19:06Speaker 1

Uh, good evening. Thank you so much for having us here. Um, I'm Dr. Ashley Allen, CEO of Gateway Community Service Board. Along with me is Felicia Anderson, our chief operating officer. On behalf of Gateway Community Service Board and Coastal Georgia Regional Community Collaborative, thank you to the Liberty County Board of Commissioners for this meaningful proclamation recognizing May 2026 as mental health awareness month in Liberty County. We are honored to accept this proclamation on behalf of every person, family, clinician, peer specialist, nurse, counselor, direct support professional, and community partner who works each day to ensure that hope and healing remain possible in our community. Mental health touches every family, every neighborhood, every workplace, and every school. It is not separate from our overall health. It is essential to it. When people have access to support, treatment, and connection, lives can change, children can thrive, families can heal, individuals can recover, communities can grow strong. At Gateway, we are proud to serve as the public safety net provider for behavioral health, substance use, and intellectual and developmental disability services across coastal Georgia, including Liberty County and seven neighboring counties. The need is real, and so is the impact. In 2025 alone, Gateway served 10,745 individuals and delivered 290,551 services across our 8ount region. Behind every number is a person seeking stability, a family searching for answers, or someone taking the brave first step towards recovery. This proclamation sends a powerful message. Mental health matters. Asking for help is a sign of strength. No one should have to struggle alone. It reminds our community that recovery is possible and support is available. As we recognize mental health awareness month, let us continue to lead with

19:04 – 19:25Speaker 1

compassion, reduce stigma, invest in care, and look out for one another. Together, we can build a healthier, stronger, and more hopeful Liberty County. Thank you for your support of Gateway and of Community Mental Health Care. Thank you for this honor and for standing with us in support of mental health.

19:21 – 20:36Speaker 1

Thank you, Mr. Mos. Proclamation Liberty County Mental Health Awareness Month May 2026. Whereas mental health plays a vital role in the well-being of individuals, families, and entire Liberty County community. Whereas Gateway Community Service Board serves as the public safety net provider for behavior, health, substance use, and intellectual and developmental disability services across coastal Georgia, including Liberty County. Whereas local data shows the continuing need for these services. Each year, more than 1,000 Liberty County residents receive outpatient care and over 59,000 services have been delivered between 2020 and 2025. Whereas, in recognition of the importance of mental health, Liberty County proclaims the month of May as mental health awareness month. Therefore, I, Donald L. Beloved and the Liberty County Board of Commissioners in recognition of Liberty County mental health awareness month do hereby proclaim the month of May 2026 and witness there whereof I here to have set my hand and caused the great seal of Liberty County, Georgia to be affixed this fifth day of May in the year of our Lord 20,026 in the year and of our county of liberty.

20:33 – 21:17Speaker 1

That's a handful. Now if you all would just hold your places and observation here. I have my spiritual group providing that service if you will. I have my physical group providing that and then I have my mental health group. Very good. What a good combination. But if you don't mind, I want some other prestigious people to join you all. You you'll entertain a few uh some other company. Well, you Mr. Mosley, uh, there are some people in auditions you want to recognize for their service outside of the county. I think it's a great time to do it.

21:15 – 22:38Speaker 1

Okay. Uh, Mr. Chair, members of the board, uh, this past on last week and this week on yesterday, in fact, I got a um email from Mr. um from I got an email from Mr. Chuck Smith, who's the uh emergency management director from uh um Candom County. And then I got another one from Mr. Andrew Altman. And in both of these letters and emails, what they were what they talked about and what they commended is the efforts of our EMA director Robert Dodd and Deputy Director uh Thomas Trip, Thomas Dukes. And then also they talked about the great service that they received from Chief Darby and his staff and who have deputy um Marson with the state. They were very commending and they said that um these guys were very knowledgeable. They very professional and they were greatly and sorely needed and that uh the MA director from Cam County said if I'm ever in trouble I'm calling Liberty County. So uh they're very complimentary these guys and chairman as as the staff we've stressed our theme this year or our theme is excellence effect effectiveness and efficiency and so that's what these professionals exemplified.

22:37 – 23:22Speaker 1

Come up and take your bow. Come up and take your bow. Come on. So, thank you so much for what you do. Thank you so much for how you represent Liberty County. Uh, you know, I'm going to say, you make us feel Liberty County. Liberty County proud. Liberty County proud. We we um we all reached out to Hen being a a neighboring county. So we went down there and provided some help with them and we would hope they would return our favor if anything ever happened where we would have to reach out to them. So neighbors helping neighbors.

23:21 – 23:49Speaker 1

Well, thank you so much again for going above and beyond the call of duty. We appreciate that. All right, Dr. White, if you and your group would come and stand behind us for your photo op. Then Jean, we'll have you next. And then we'll have Gateway next. And then we'll have our local public safety heroes next. You get to sit in I get to sit down.

23:53 – 24:37Speaker 1

Miss Moses. Oh, I didn't see you slip up. Okay, y'all ready for National Day of Prayer? Lord knows we need a lot of praying. We do. Day of prayer. All right. On the count of three, National Day of Prayer. Hold on, sir. Where's who gonna official yet? Pastor one, two, three. National Day of Prayer 2026. I feel Liberty.

24:34 – 24:56Speaker 1

Proud. Yeah, I like it. I like it. I like it. Thank you all so much. Good to see you all. It's good to see you. I give you some elbow because you know the baby, but he's he wanted to come support you. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you doing what you do. Mr. Chairman,

25:00 – 25:15Speaker 1

let's see. EMS. As these depart, let others come. Okay. Mr. Jean G.

25:29 – 26:12Speaker 1

This is for National EMS week. All right. Ready? One, two, three. Thank you. All right. Thank you, sir. That's a national G's got a lot of years with Liberty County. Okay. And uh national I mean a Yeah. mental health awareness. They all mix in together. Next time we wear green. I didn't know that.

26:15 – 26:53Speaker 1

Are you in? Yes. Mr. Ste, you come up a little bit and feel like There you go. There you go. All right. National Mental Health Health Month. Awareness month. One, two, three. National Mental Health Awareness Month. Take a moment to say the word. Thank you so much. Good to see you. Good to see you. All right. Good to see you. I appreciate it. Yes, ma'am. Good to see you again. Here come that wall crew.

26:51 – 27:15Speaker 1

Do you have the letter that you got so they can help? I'm just going to hold a copy of You got something? Yeah. These are the guys. So, folks down there, the these are these are our

27:13 – 27:37Speaker 1

these are local heroes who help our neighbors at the Brentley County um fire. So, Okay, give him a hand.

27:44 – 28:09Speaker 1

Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you. So Monica, that's a good submission to the local lens. HCCG little page thing to send out once. You may not get it, but we get a little ACCG sends out maybe even weekly a little blurb. We'll make sure you get

28:08 – 30:07Speaker 1

it's called local lens and they highlight things like that in the county. I want before we get started, commission, I want to make a a statement. Um, and I should have here on April 13th, we dedicated had a ribbon cutting for Susa King Taylor Freedom Park as you all know very well in the Alawat community, a showcase park for Liberty County. not just a park, but it's a destination with the historical essence that tied to it. And even since you've been there last, they've uh added some landscaping. It's that's more stunning now than it was when you were there. I advise you to go by and see it again. Um before that park was renovated, uh it sat there in disrepair. And a true story, we were having our 5K one Saturday morning. A young man that was volunteering with Dr. Karen Bell was there and I asked him where he lived. He said White Road. I said, "Oh." I said, "We're doing that park." He said, "Yeah, yeah." He said, he said, "The drug place." Sixth grader. That's what he called it. Here's my point. So, before the county took to took the initiative to improve the park, that's the notoriety the park had. And now, thankfully you all and you've been so cooperative. Uh it's been a a united effort to approve that park and make it a truly a destination. But the bad news is over the weekend someone stole the sign from the park. The sign that was the post was cemented and as my mama say it grew feet and walked away. And that's the $2,000 worth of materials in that sign. So I just want to bring it to our attention now and I want to put this out to give fair warning to whoever did that. The time will come when you

30:06 – 30:43Speaker 1

will be caught. We are not going to tolerate vandalism. Not going to tolerate um misbehavior just because I mean that's a showcase that park is for everybody. Listen if there's park in Gum Branch. Everybody can go to Gum Branch Park Gills Park. Everybody can go to Gil Park. Park everybody. Everybody everybody's tax dollar. It helps to support where the parks are. And that one just happened to have some national promise. But we we've done work on all of our parks. Um and then I'm told that Kamo there's some vandalism at Gil Park and Miller Park. Miller Park. In Miller Park. Miller Park.

30:41 – 30:57Speaker 1

Miller Park. Yeah. Yeah. So someone's on a rampage. It seems. But you know, we're not going to stop until we get them caught. And we're not going to sit back and tolerate vandalism on properties that belong to all of Liberty County citizens.

30:55 – 31:40Speaker 1

All right. Uh we're we're all in this together. So, I encourage my system from uh Out of White, all the parks, be vigilant about what goes on in your area. Don't just ride by and let people just do what they want to do to destroy county property. We we can't allow that to happen. Need your help with that. Um so, we the sign will be replaced. We we're working on also some cameras, you know, and some other I feel like the school system, you know, do you tell all your security measures? Do you just put them in place? You know, other security measures also being explored and will be done for for all of our parts, especially those in the outlying areas. So, but that taxpayers that's a waste of your dollars unnecessarily. Prosecute them to fullest extent.

31:40 – 31:59Speaker 1

Yeah. Say that again for the microphone. If they get caught, I don't mind saying they get caught tearing up uh county property like that, you know, I say we prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. It's just the way I believe in it. you know, set some examples. I agree with that.

31:57 – 32:47Speaker 1

Um, but I just wanted to to make it known in the morning that that happened and and put those folk on notice. We old folks say you can get by, but you can't get away. Can't get away. We're going to be I've asked the um uh Chief Hagen to send his deputies out especially during the night to make their rounds on the on their shifts because the park is in isolated area and we're working on getting the the lighting and as well as the other security measures there. But in the meantime, we have to uh police it ourselves. So once again, I reach out to the citizens of Isa White. Please help us to keep an eye on that park. Um it's a beautiful place getting rave reviews. Uh and there's more to come, but we need everybody's help once again in that park and every park that belongs to Liberty County. We had some other should I go on some people who who did donut holes in in Gil Park. Yeah.

32:44Speaker 1

And earlier some some uh vandalism was done at um Schuman Rick. Shimmer,

32:50 – 34:49Speaker 1

you know. Sh. here, but we cannot allow this to happen over and over again to what's public property that belongs to all of us and we all want to be proud of it. So, thank you so much for your help. Thank you for listening to me. Uh, but it just hurts my heart that so much has been done and then in that short period of time, someone has come and done that to the the park. But we we all care and we're going to stand behind it. All right, departmental reports. Mr. Rickson. Good evening, Chairman Levit, members of the board. Tonight, we have a a somewhat unusual plat for you to look at. Uh, this is a simple conveyance plat. It meets all the requirements of a simple conveyance, and that's that's normally handled by staff in our office. This one's got an unusual feature that we felt like we needed to refer this to you and let you help us make this decision. So, if you'll be patient with me, I'll go through and let you look at it. Uh, this has been requested by Mr. Justin Webb. Uh his engineer is uh Adam Wilkinson with Goose Creek LLC. Adam's here tonight. Uh they're proposing to do six lots on 40 acres, 40.51 acres off of Ride Patch Road. Uh they want to do six single family dwellings and the property is zone A1. And the lots they're proposing are way way above the minimum for A1. Um again, this is in Rapatch Road in district three. And this is the vicinity map. You can see Highway 196 here. uh just off of 196 on Rapatch Road here uh near the um County Line Road there. And um I think that road there is Wheeler Farm Road. It's kind of between there. Uh you can see the pretty big goodsized piece of property. And as you can also see, this is a blowup of the of the of the boundary of the property there. You can see that uh with the green map here, this is kind of an island in the middle of a bunch of wetlands, but it's a good bit of usable land. But the unfortunate characteristic

34:47 – 35:13Speaker 1

for this property is that all of the frontage of this property is all wetland. So you got to cross over the wetlands to get back to the developable land. So they're wanting to do the lights back in the rear and they want to cross over at the skinniest part of the wetlands there to not disturb this wetland over here. And go back just go back there. Tell me about the road again. Where they want to put the road.

35:11 – 37:10Speaker 1

Yeah, this this is this is Ry Patch Road. They're wanting to come off right here. You can see right there where there's already a logging road that's been built there and they're wanting to bring a road from off of this and come over into here and have lots, six lots here. The lots actually, and I'll show you in another graphic later on, the lots actually all come down to Ripy Patch Road. That's why they meet the definition of a simple conveyance, but even though they got frontage on Ripach Road, you can't really I mean, you can't practically get a driveway in there. could you could uh pay the core of engineers a lot of money and disturb it and and run a driveway across there, but it wouldn't be a practical expense. So, uh this is the only way to really get to the property is this little road here that this has already been built as a logging road. So, these are the minor uh subdivision types and simple conveyance is what this is. It meets all these requirements here. It does have frontage on the all the lots would have frontage on uh Rapatch Road. Um the there are no there are no improvements uh no no uh utilities or improvements that are proposed. Would be a private street. Uh no new streets are proposed. Uh no construction of any improvements for any kind of water, sewer, storm water, any of that stuff and no dedications to the county. So it meets the textbook definition in the UDO for a sigma conveyance. Uh this is another form of conveyance here. That's not really what applicable here. That's for that's also uh the provision that the UDL allows people that have uh properties that have have a lot of property in the back and need to get back to it to that allows you to have a 30-foot easement to get back to those properties. That's not really the case here because we've got u we've got to do six lots here. So, this is uh this is Mr. Goose Creek's uh request. They said this is a request from the board of commissioners to concur with the attached plat for this parcel. It meets the definition of a

37:08 – 39:06Speaker 1

minor subdivision simple conveyance under the section of the UDO there. Uh the proposed subdivision satisfies all of the above criteria which I've just went through with you. All lights have frontage on the existing street and no improvements to the street are proposed. Number two, the lots will be accessed via a shared driveway that has already been discussed and approved by the Liberty County Emergency Services Department. Number three, the property will be served by individual wells and individual septic tanks and does not constitute a community or public utility system. This classification has been reviewed and improved by the LCPC and the health department. The lot layout has already received approval from the health department and there are no no new streets or dedications uh to the county that are that have been proposed. So, um we'll just kind of look. This is what they're proposing to do. This again, this is the original boundary that we looked at at the beginning of the thing. And you can see they're proposing to do six lots, all all of which would have the minimum required frontage, but as you can see, the wetlands here would prohibit a practical driveway access back to the developable part of the lot. So, what they're proposing to do is have all these lots, there would be a house on each one of these lots back here in the upland that would all come in off of this driveway and then follow an easement over here to to provide access to each of the lots. That's what they're proposing to do. And the considerations that we like to for you to consider. All lots have the required frontage and meet the requirements for the simple conveyance. However, due to the wetlands using that frontage access, it would be costly and require a permit from the Army Corps of Engineers to get a driveway on each one of those individual lots. However, it appears the developer does not intend to access the lots from their street frontage. And as you saw, they are proposing to use easements to get back to the behind the wetlands to the to the developable portion of the lots.

39:04 – 39:47Speaker 1

And a shared access conveyance, which we normally would use to get to, hard to get to property that doesn't have enough frontage, only allows for two lots to access. And they're proposing to have six lots here. So that's why we're bringing it to you to uh for your judgment about whether or not you'd like to consider this. Let me go back to the plat and then I'll be glad to answer any questions and Adam is here if you got any questions of him. M Mr. Chairman that that is in my district had a couple I drove out there before I came to the meeting. Adam, where is the um the two you've got you've already got one mobile home facing Ry Patch? Yes, ma'am.

39:45 – 40:22Speaker 1

Where's that on? Is it on this plan anywhere? No, ma'am. It's right to the left of the existing driveway. Okay. All right. So, it Okay. So, it wasn't in wetlands. No, ma'am. It was not. And this road that you have going back there, is that where um 1073 1083 and 1071? There's two mobile homes on a dirt road already out there. Yes, ma'am. So, where are they located on this map? Right to the right here. Right there. And right there.

40:23 – 41:07Speaker 1

Okay. So, they're on they're off of the orange that orange pinkish line. Yes, ma'am. That's the road. And so, you want to do you realize there are no covers on that dirt road? There are no covers on those two mobile homes. There are no covers that I seen on the on the one that is on Ry Patch. They're going through the ditch already to get to their home. I just have a problem with that. No, ma'am. I did not realize that. Um I'm surprised the county didn't require driveway pip road that that orangey colored is not our road. I assume y'all going to maintain it and it's in bad shape.

41:04 – 41:31Speaker 1

Oh, the the existing driveway area, the existing access. Yes, ma'am. My home's back there. I would call it a road. Yes, ma'am. So, I don't know. You know, when those folks moved in, I would assume y'all would y'all told them that that is not a county maintained road. Yes, ma'am. It's got quite a bit of dips in it already. They are should be aware are aware. I did not speak with them directly that it's not I know

41:30 – 42:02Speaker 1

have a concern because I've seen some of the um some of the other parks that Mr. web has built in Liberty County and they're not up to par. And you know, this board has sat here time and time, month with folks coming back in here and um want to know who owns that road. You know, they pay their taxes, they can't get to their homes, and it's because of folks that are not doing it the right way.

42:00 – 42:40Speaker 1

Yes, ma'am. So, uh, I can look at addressing any drainage improvements that would be needed for anything existing. I was not made aware of anything like that on this specifically. We do have it on the plat mentioned that this is not and will not ever be a county maintain road and this would be if they purchasing property in here a voluntary private driveway. That's about a half. I know you're not a developer, but kind of following Commissioner Thiff's lead quoting what she just described, trying to navigate that road is already an issue. And you're right, in those rainy seasons that we get. Yeah.

42:38 – 42:56Speaker 1

These people and then you kind of sir won't be receiving the phone calls. We will be receiving the phone calls uh about the road and what can you do for my road? I pay my taxes, too. All those kind of things. That's what we hear. So, I I I don't know. For some reason, I just kind of thought you were going to make road improvements.

42:54 – 44:24Speaker 1

So, I'd definitely be more willing to entertain what I would call an engineered site plan with this. It is a little unconventional. The intent was to reduce traffic conflicts, do a private driveway, which spoke with 911 and they said they've done it before. You would put a blue sign up. Um any drainage improvements that is a concern, I would not be up against roping that into the engineered site plan for this property. I live on private dirt roads a lot of my life. Um I do now and it's just it's up to us to maintain it and and we when we have the property, we like it and we don't want the county. We actually requested on my family property to abandon the road so we could have it. But on the road I live on now, we don't request the county. We know it's up to us and the neighbors to maintain it. And on this specifically because I have heard people in the past when I used to work for Trent, we used to get calls of come grade this road. Well, that's not our road. That's your road. Um and specifically on this, it would be on the plat that they would be using to purchase a property that it'd be extremely clear that if you get out here, it is your responsibility and your neighbors and communities responsibility to maintain this to the standard that you want. And if you want to drive over a washboard road, then you can drive over it, but that's on you. That's all sounds well and good, but it'd be a lot better if you had like a HOA so they all maybe they would pay in. But I I'm just very concerned that uh I I don't know that I could approve it to be honest with you

44:22Speaker 1

because it doesn't meet some of the ordinances.

44:25 – 45:38Speaker 1

Well, I'm just I may not be sitting in this seat. Somebody else may be here. But the fact is that you're going to have six folks, six families with possibly a wash out road after they're sold. Lo and behold, I have folks already out there in Gum Branch that cannot maintain their lane because they don't have the money to buy dirt to put in. They don't have a tractor to grade it. and then they call me or the county wants somebody to come out there and they get upset that well I didn't know it. I didn't realize that they may be the second owner or the third owner. They didn't realize it when they bought it. And then after I saw those those two that you've already put in without covers, without even a ditch on that side of the road. So you need to take that back to whoever did that. That didn't look good at all when I rode out there. They're getting they're I don't know how they can tell where the driveway is or where, you know, the road ends and and their land begin.

45:35 – 46:18Speaker 1

I I and I'm really You said the health departments approved this. They looked awfully narrow. I guess u Mr. Uh Rickerson, there's enough room to put a double wide in there and a septic tank and a whale. Yeah, these these lots of the way he's got them narrowed down. You look there, they're about 200 wide. So at at the building part, they're probably about 150 wide. So they could they would have room to to sit. So they're going to have to go back further. They'll be okay. These these are all relatively big lots. Like this one is six acres. This one's four acres. This one's three acres. So they're bigger than they look from the

46:16 – 47:00Speaker 1

arrow. Would that um you see the wetlands are on the right and the good land I guess on the left. So would the property would the owner be buying the wetlands? Yes, sir. So they'll be buy the road would be dividing that's why the road be dividing their property. The road is they're proposing it would just be an easement going across their property like each one of these would if the guy in number three wanted to close the road. Well, he couldn't if it was an easy, right? He could not that he could choose not to do anything to his portion. He could choose. Yeah, it'll be it'll be a negotiation. Have to dump. That's what happened. I've seen it too much up here, Mr. Wilkinson. I've seen it.

46:58 – 48:41Speaker 1

Yes, ma'am. So, I'm a real big proponent of personal responsibility. My community where I live, we get together. So, me mainly, it's just me and one neighbor and the other neighbors benefit. But, we're discussing right now about purchasing some rock and grading the road again. And usually my family has maintained it before. Now that he had a tractor that was closer, he had taken over a little bit more responsibility. I I just have lived on it. So if I wanted to live down a private dirt road, I think I should be able to choose to do that if if I want to is the only thing. I do know it is unconventional. If certain sites are not built to the standard of the county, I would highly welcome the county scrutiny on building closeout and stuff. if if they're not built to standard hold any developers to standard. I believe in that too because I see it from both sides. I on this one specifically I felt that it met the ordinances also in general it also reduced the traffic conflicts if I could have accessed the frontage which they can. It is uneconomical and was not the intent. So I'm not going to sit up here and say it was but it is possible with and without a core of engineers permit. you can do a pile supported structure um which is no fill but um in general I thought the layout functioned well for the area and met all the ordinances to be allowed and again I would more than welcome to do what I would call engineered site plan it's uh with the some grades on the roads and to look at any drainage improvements that are incorrect out there and then correct them with this as part of the package because I do know it's it is a little unconventional Five years from now.

48:40 – 49:24Speaker 1

Yeah. Two year a year. And I and I've because I've been I come to a lot of these. Not as many here as I used to, but I come to a lot and there are people get mad at y'all for no reason. Not a good feeling. It's not. But that's if it's on the plat and if you bought it. I don't actually understand why they come here in all honesty. I was like, you're you're an adult. you know what you bought. I mean, you don't be mad at the commissioners because you live on a private dirt road. That's what you chose to do. Some people love it and some people hope it gets take over. Getting that new home. Everybody has that new warm and fuzzy because they're getting a new home and they forget about the road until it rains or have a wash out,

49:21 – 50:05Speaker 1

then it's going to have to have m Yeah. And I just don't see those folks being able to maintain. Would it make you feel better if there was a HOA established? No, it would not. I think Mr. Web knew what he was buying when he bought it. Don't try to shove it down our throat. He knew what he was buying. Mr. Chair, I'm sorry. I'm tying to the party. I'm I'm blaming on Commissioner Gillard. I was first. He blame it on you. Right. But uh just a quick question. This is that that same site that we we approved. Wasn't it a reasonzoning?

50:05 – 50:47Speaker 1

No, I don't. No, sir. I don't think it came for this different. No, sir. For when I looked at it originally, I thought it met all the requirements of the ordinance. So, a reszoning was not required at the time. And Commissioner Swift's concern if is is the uh the road the road in that's going to be a private road even to get to the property now as uh has been stated that road is not in pristine condition and then um add traffic to it and some mother nature and will those folks be knocking on our door for

50:45 – 52:08Speaker 1

right and and and that's what I I was just going to say you know uh you know we've in the past allowed some developers to, you know, not get the roads and everything together. And that's what we're going through right now where, you know, we bringing those roads back under us. And and and I I get what you're saying about, you know, that's their option. But I've I've been around real estate a long time as well. And you and I both know that that that excitement that people get with with buying purchasing a home, maybe their first home or even their second home. But whenever there's some cracks in in the ceiling and and like you said, the road starts messing up, you know, that that kind of changes the the entire outlook of of the purchase. So, and yeah, I I I don't know how I feel about this. And I know, you know, I had a a brief second to look at it and I know I just missed majority of the conversation, but Yeah. And and also, Mr. Ricky, I I know normally you all come with with a recommendation.

52:06 – 52:51Speaker 1

I was just going to ask you about that. We we don't why we don't have a recommendation here tonight. I don't if if you're if you're not happy with this, I would I would recommend that you take him up on his offer and let him bring back an engineered site plan with a road that meets your standard and then then you could consider go from there. It may not meet it five years from now. It may not meet it. Is there no other way to get on that backside where the highland is at? No, it's it's as you saw on that first slide, this is an island in the middle of a whole bunch of wetlands around it. the whole island. Go back to the other picture, Jeff. No, no, he didn't have to go back. He's already got some mobile homes right there.

52:49 – 53:24Speaker 1

So, Jeff, right right there is where the mobile homes are at. Right. These are the ones that these are the ones that Miss Drift was saying uh don't have the driveway covers on them. Right. Right. So, we already now I heard you say something said you were surprised that the county did not require pipes. First of all, did they get a permit to put them over on there? Feel sure they probably got No, I don't want probably. Did they get

53:23 – 53:41Speaker 1

Yes, they got building permits. Yes, sir. So somewhere down the line the circle didn't make it cuz right there there should have been some pipes instead of driving in the ditch to come up to your property.

53:38 – 54:23Speaker 1

There's no pipes. He's got pipes on the lots that he sold on county line on the law on the Liberty County side. He's got his pipes there, his driveways, and those look nice, but uh he may have to me, I'm no engineer, whatever, but he should have thought about maybe coming in off of that side and then he would have he could have left all this the way it is and come in off like where the red arrow is. He's got mobile homes, maybe three or four. He he could come in off that way and and still set up his island. You would have to reconfigure I guess.

54:21 – 55:03Speaker 1

Well, that actually so the existing entrance now. Yes. Well, yes, ma'am. That too. But the existing entrance now existed and though the wetland inventory map has wetlands crossing Ry patch, Ry patch would not be considered wetlands in the core's eyes as the existing entrance now would not be. If we tried to come from the left side over in the original design, it would have been a core of engineers filling permit and I recommended not doing that. There you go. And I've had people even ride by there that don't even didn't even buy in there. Just riding by and say, "How in the world are they putting in mobile homes there? They don't even live there. They see all the water that's standing there."

55:00 – 55:29Speaker 1

Chairman, let me ask a question. Right there. Is that a dirt pit? No, sir. It's just where the trees have been cleared. Okay. the family estate um piece of property. Okay. Commissioner Gillip. Yes. Uh Jeff, you now you said that there's no recommendation from from the board from your

55:27 – 56:05Speaker 1

It's not a positive recommendation. I wouldn't recommend approval of it without without roads that meet the standards. I mean, you might you might consider doing a minor rural road, which would be a road that was built to all the standards and doesn't have to be paved, but minus minus the paving of the sidewalk, but it would still have the 60 foot rideway and the the crown that you would normally have in the ditch. Well, I guess my my question was like Commissioner Frasier, I missed part of this um when I came in, you were already um talking about it, but this is not one of those um petitions where at the end there's a recommendation from the planning commission. This is this one of them.

56:03 – 56:18Speaker 1

Yeah. I said this is unusual. This is not the ones that Marty usually brings in that have where the developers built roads and extended utilities and everything. This is they're trying to do this. What what did the members of the planning commission say? Nothing.

56:16 – 57:14Speaker 1

This has not been to them. We we normally would we normally would sign off on one of these in the office because it's it's it's cutting the lights off of an existing county road. They're they're not extending any utilities in there. But so he so he's right. meets the letter of of the law as far as you know this meets all the requirements for a simple conveyance. It just doesn't meet the intent because you can't put a driveway off of Ry Patch Road into those those six lots because there's wetlands in the way. Well, I and and I guess you know there have been times in the past where we um there have been some roads that um were not deed to the county and then people came here and we end up deed them to the county and then the last meeting or meeting before that there was a road that was deed to the county that the people that live down there didn't want it. So, you know, we've had it this way, we've had it that way. Um what's your name again? Adam.

57:12 – 58:11Speaker 1

Yeah, Adam. Yes, sir. I'm sorry about that, Adam. Yeah. Um and you know, Adam is saying that um you know, it's it's written right there in black and white that um that it's yours if you decide to to go down into a swamp and build a house or do whatever that that that you own that. And um now they can always come back and say, "I didn't know." or 6 months from now or 6 years from now, somebody else could come in there and say they didn't know, but um you know, you you need to know. I mean, it's it's on you to know um what what you're buying. Um but but again, I I I didn't know if this was one of the ones that at the end is the recommendation, but we're not to that point. We we have no we have no recommendation on this tonight.

58:09 – 58:53Speaker 1

Okay. What is the um consolation for the commissioners that the buyers and would be made aware and sign off on on this knowing that this is going to be a private road and whomever will have to maintain it. It's so it's actually from LCPC's recommendation and don't disagree at all that it's on the plat that they will be using to purchase the property that it and again this would be considered a private driveway and not a private road. Very minor stipulation in use case. It's not different in the ordinance definition. It is the only reason I point that out. I

58:50 – 59:30Speaker 1

I hear you but it's so it's on the plat. I also would suggest if this is a concern that before a CO is issued for the county that an additional large print piece of paper, not just a piece on a plat that they may or may not read in excitement, that they have to sign something else that is turned into the county for records that y'all can keep that says, I understand that this is a private driveway, will not be and will never be maintained by Liberty County and is my responsibility as a property owner and as part of the community to maintain this. And Mr. Chair al also the real estate agent that's involved supposed to uh discuss all that too. Correct.

59:28 – 1:00:02Speaker 1

I'm not well verssed in the real estate law. No sir. So I so I do not know but I from my understanding Georgia was a buyer beware state which I kind of was disappointed in but I didn't I don't know what they're supposed to tell people or not. Mr. Web sells his own lots right most of the time. Does that matter in real estate? Okay. I wouldn't think so. Okay. Mr. Chair, I'm I'm almost certain that uh the real estate agent supposed to uh disclose all of that under their license.

1:00:00 – 1:00:41Speaker 1

I've been around real estate a long time and and that's the point that I'm saying. I've I've I've purchased my first property as a neopight just excited. HOA, they promised playgrounds and everything. I I could go to my old house in Atlanta right now, guarantee you that that playground still isn't there. So, what what I'm saying is the the excitement of of purchasing a your first property is, you know, you you forget about all the details, you know, and you're just excited because you're about to get some keys.

1:00:36 – 1:01:03Speaker 1

So, I Mr. Chair, uh I echo uh Commissioner Thrift about that that something the road. Yeah. Um I I I couldn't sit up here and and approve something when we know the road is going to fail one day. Yeah. Commissioner Blunt wants to get in.

1:01:00 – 1:01:33Speaker 1

Yeah. I'd like to add something to this. Um and this happened before I was ever elected up here, but I'd sit out in the audience and listen. Right down in the neighborhood I live in. Um you got county maintained roads. They're paved and all. Um I think this same guy, I don't want to call his name, but he bought 75 acres there on each side of this road and he wanted to develop it. And it's 75 acres versus what? A little better than six right here or you got six lots, but how many acres? 47.

1:01:30 – 1:02:44Speaker 1

Okay. So, this guy 75 acres and y'all county commission. I wasn't here then. And held their feet to the fire cuz he wanted to develop it all kind of different ways. And you you let him design his lots to he had to design his lots where he could only put driveways in off of the county road and all and because he wanted to go in and split it up like you're talking about into some unaccessible areas because a lot of wetland down there and y'all held his feet to the fire and said nope. And I'm glad you did because it limited the number of development but it saved you a lot of headaches on the wetland. They're going to try to feel it. What I see with this also you don't have a correct me if I'm wrong uh you don't have a county road you're accessing. you're using an easement and then you're going to try to split off and go there and I don't see where you're going to be able to hold anybody's feet to the fire that's going to do any maintenance on this at all. I'm with I'm with you. But you've already kind of set an example in the past how you held their feet to the fire. I think you should go as consistency and and move forward is not not not allow this and all. If there's a different way to come into it from a public road and all, if the developer wanted to then take the expense to build a road into it and split it off, then you would know who'd be responsible for the road.

1:02:42 – 1:03:24Speaker 1

So, the existing private driveway does touch the rightway or the rightway of Ry Patch Road, which where they would be accessing the property from. If they so chose, the developer does not want to do this, but if the individual property owner so chose, they could uh put a what I would recommend first would be a pileup supported structure. It requires less permitting on in theory, no permitting from the core of engineers and they would be able to access to the existing rightway of Rapatch if they so choose. I do not think anybody's going to do that. I think it's uneconomical. So I that's I'm not up here to say that. But it is possible to do that. The intent was though to do a share drive and to reduce the driveways.

1:03:22 – 1:04:07Speaker 1

The six lots you want to put in the two homes that's already there on the left hand side of the road with the traffic if you were allowed to put the new six homes in. These two homes here would start acting up where the road gets all nasty and messy and they can't get out where they used to get in and out fine because there's only two homes. I think we kind of know what we got to do. Oh yeah. Where is Mobly Road? It's He's bought down to Mobly Road. Yes, ma'am. because he's already got a mobile home in the very back. So, how are they getting into that one? So, Mobly Road, I don't know if you can go back to a aerial of the total. Uh oh, you can you can't quite see it, Miss Connie. Um, but there is the wetlands on Mobly. Are you talking about that the when you come up Mobly, the furthest north lot?

1:04:07 – 1:04:46Speaker 1

Yeah. Yes, ma'am. So the wetlands actually left a section where in between the wetlands and the property line was uplands and that's how that particular trailer is getting access. Well, I think he just bought a bad piece of property. Yeah, we don't need to walk into this with eyes wide open. Yeah, I I just think you need to go back to see if y'all can and just to reiterate my request. The request was for the commissioners to either confirm it meets the requirements of a simple conveyance or not. Well, and you said it does. I believe it does. Yes, sir. But Jeff can speak on that. It meets the letter, but not the intent. Right.

1:04:44 – 1:05:26Speaker 1

Those wetlands have the same effect as if the road didn't if if those lights didn't have frontage because they're not there's no practical access. So, they can't build their own driveway across that that it means the letter the intent. Yeah. The letter the ordinance says if all the lots have frontage, they do have frontage. Every one of them, every one of these lots that he's proposing has frontage, but they don't have access, but they the access is possible. Yeah. Yeah. You'd have to come across that much wet land with a driveway to get to each one of those units. It it's just not it it doesn't meet the intent of your ordinance. So, does the ordinance need to um be tightened up a little bit?

1:05:25 – 1:06:04Speaker 1

I don't think so. I think they just need to build a road. In this case, you got a a piece of property that that dictates a road a road to your standard coming around so that all these six homes would have access to that road with driveway pipes and you know normal things that that you would expect in an urban development. You ready for a motion? I'm ready. I would make a motion that we um disapprove the weer track. Is there a second? Motion in a second. Maybe they can go back figure out another way. Any further discussion?

1:06:01 – 1:06:38Speaker 1

Discussion. Uh but Mr. Rickerson, you did suggest that uh that they come back with some type of engineering. He offered to come back with an engineered site plan. And there's unlike a zoning, there's no time limit on this. You can come back next week if you can get it done. Okay. So I I guess for clarification, even with a disapproval, he can still come back. Yep. Okay. Own the road opinion. You understand where we're coming from, my friend. I have a difference of opinion, but I understand your concern.

1:06:36 – 1:07:07Speaker 1

We we receive that. But uh you said you've been at a few meetings, you know, we've gone through before and it's it's Commissioner Thrift's right. These people will even the real estate agent says sign here and they'll some of them read, some won't. Give me the keys. X number of years from now, they'll come back. They'll say, "Hey, I'm paying Liberty County taxes. Why my road? You know, I don't want to hear this thing about not being a you one of the few who abide by that, you and the other person you mentioned, but the people who we've spoken with, they don't receive it like that.

1:07:06 – 1:07:50Speaker 1

And I mean, I I understand what you're saying, but you have to understand you're you're a real estate professional. So, you you understand real estate from a little bit more detail than someone just who just deals with real estate once every 10, 15 years. That's the difference. Yeah. And I just live on dirt roads and I it was very obvious what we were supposed to do to our own driveway. Well, I y'all speak for y'all self. I wasn't listen I never lived on a dirt road. I read but the develop was long gone and then there and this is who they come see. I mean I remember when was a dirt road. I used to ride my for that was way back in the day. If we bring this back, what would the commission like to see

1:07:49 – 1:08:31Speaker 1

to make them more at ease about this development? I'm not sure how much I don't know that you could do anything other than go with the core and go through the wetlands if you want to use that property or either sell it as one or do a paved road or do a paved road to county standards. And normally with with easements, it's normally I mean I understand the purpose of easements and but normally in general it's like one one house or something access. Uh I didn't see anything in the ordinance that required access or a limit on that.

1:08:30 – 1:09:14Speaker 1

Right. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying normally normal practice is Yes, sir. Someone gets an easement to build one house instead of building almost a a small subdivision. Yes, sir. So, how I kind of envisioned this when I was in my head was this would be very similar to internal lane. Like it's a busy roadway. You want to get traffic off. You want to reduce traffic conflicts. You do a shared driveway internal lane that you don't particularly want to build up to the rigorous county standards or have the access to give away the rightway for private or public. Then you would build a internal lane with an easement across the front even though those lots would technically have frontage to the county right away. Right. It's just a design.

1:09:11 – 1:09:54Speaker 1

And and I apologize, Mr. Adam. I know I was late. Uh what's what's your profession? Civil engineer. Yeah. But Mr. Adam, you you you discuss with the developer and y'all decide what you going what you're going to do. Yes, sir. So, I'm just trying to take back to him like is there a way to a yes or is that do I just go back to him and say, "Hey, this ain't going to work." I mean well well I can't speak for somebody but me but I don't feel a positive I don't see how it could work there unless he did pave and bring it up to standards like the count you know the county both of those you know the orangey one that you know you don't have pipes there that's a 60 foot east

1:09:51 – 1:10:36Speaker 1

and I mean I can speak for myself and I understand uh being a civil engineer I have engineers in my family I'm They they are way smarter than me, but I understand how you all work. So, what I'm saying is don't look at it just as a civil engineering portion of it. Build it where you'll feel comfortable living in one of those properties. I that's I mean that's why I guess I differ is I would like if I bought a property on a private driveway, put them right away. You're a rarity, my friend. What type of truck you have? Uh just Toyota Tacoma. Yeah. But I drive a Tesla now, so we just maintain the road. Oh, that's a Tesla out there. Yes, sir. I don't think it'll make it down there.

1:10:35 – 1:11:18Speaker 1

It made it here. That's why there a little dirt on it. I don't we we can't prevent you from coming back, but you you leave here knowing that I don't want to waste anybody's time. So, if it's I just I think I kind of understand the intent. I've already had complaints. People don't even live there. The water and the homes that are there that water stands in the yard. All right. Thank you, sir. Thank you for coming. Thank you for sharing with us too. Thank you. I mean we we didn't vote. Oh, we had you were discussion. We did that yesterday. Okay. All in favor of denying. Okay. All right. Thank you. Okay. Unanimous. Thank you. And and my point is, you know, whatever person when the sun's shining, they they own it when it's raining. And that happens.

1:11:18 – 1:11:43Speaker 1

Okay. That happens. Who's the Oh, Trench behind it. All right. So, uh, I have two things on the agenda tonight. We're doing my monthly status report because I'm going to be out of town, uh, during the regular month of meeting. Oh, no. You, you come with me. I'll put you in my suitcase.

1:11:41 – 1:12:17Speaker 1

I don't think you're going to fit and fold up good enough. Um, so the main trails, uh, we have the bid documents ready. Uh we're going to try to have that bidding uh in the next couple of weeks so that we're bidding and opening that up in um June. Um the Kings Road drainage improvements. Uh we and reason I'm kind of hitting some of these and I want to go back and I'm sorry I want to talk about Steven's Road. Uh the chairman had a couple questions about you know how are we with drainage? Yes. uh this month with some of the issues that we had back in August

1:12:15 – 1:13:00Speaker 1

and Stevens Road was one of the areas we have drainage and you know we went through and we did a design of how to fix that and we need a couple of easements uh to get through that. We've sent out initial letters and second letters and I've had one lady that said that she would do it if the others did and that's about it. Now Mr. Gaskin, he already has it on his plan to give it to us. So, that one I'm not counting as a a problem, but there's four that I got to have to be able to do that, and I'm just not getting any response from them at all. So, um until I have something that I really can't fix Steven's road drain, so that'll be that'll be stuck for a little bit until we get that resolved. And we've tried everything.

1:12:58 – 1:13:41Speaker 1

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And there's no other there's no other real route because that's where the water's going now. and I don't have a way to get down beside Stevens Road without getting in some of the big old oak trees and there's just a lot of other problems. Commissioner, um Stephen, I'm going to request that you was Sandra kind of like the point of contact for that Sandra Smalls or No, who who's who would you consider point of I want the word to get back? We being held up because we can't get these miss. That's right. I think it would be that first house trim on the Yeah. The So when you turn on Stevens Road, you got the two blank pieces of property on the right. Yeah. No response from either one of those two, right?

1:13:40 – 1:14:25Speaker 1

And then when she crossed the little road in the middle, the second one, there's no response. But the lady that's the first one on the right, it was actually her son since she came to me and said she'd tell her son to do it. Yeah. If everybody else gave it. How about the one we're all the way down on the right hand side where the pond is at? Oh yeah. Well, if you go further down there, uh my problem there is my roads as low as a swamp got to that I have to drain to. But we need to stay back. Yeah. And it it kind of won't I can hardly get it to go anywhere. Okay. I was just trying to find a way that's that one's so they'll know we just didn't quit on it. We we run into obstacles to getting these moves.

1:14:23 – 1:15:07Speaker 1

That's right. Now, uh, Kings Roadray drainage is another area that was a problem. Um, I'm meeting with two of the owners for easements Thursday night and, uh, we have a coastal wetland, no, coastal marsh protection act permit that we have going on. Um, and I need their easements and their signatures to be able to do that. Uh, because I definitely want to do that because I'm discharging into the to the marsh. So, uh, once I have that, that is ready to go. The design is done. Just need that CMPA permit and I need the easements and we'll be able to get that on the streets. Now you you said the marsh or the river the river but the same difference. Same. Okay. All right. It doesn't matter. Okay. All right. Yeah. Got to have the same permit.

1:15:06Speaker 1

Okay. Same kind of permit that we started on on Highway Cover. That kind of got us all in trouble because it didn't get done.

1:15:13 – 1:15:58Speaker 1

Got to have that one. I don't want to get stopped again. I don't like that. Um Sunshine Lake Road. Uh the asphalt is down. Uh they were out there yesterday and today grinding some of the little striping that was wrong and it's going to look better. Um they tried several things to try to get rid of that striping, but uh they should be striping the rest of it. We have one little bump in somebody's driveway they're going to try to work on and make that better. Uh and then that project will be pretty close to finished. um live oak drive. Uh we are going to be um having a pre-construction conference next week on Tuesday.

1:15:57 – 1:16:39Speaker 1

Okay. Um and I'm expecting him to be putting down asphalt late June. So during the summer um uh ju just a quick question. What's the uh what's the time frame you you think it's going to take? Uh once she put starts putting it down, a week, two weeks. Sounds good. Yeah, it's this going to be one of those things that you know, you just sit there and wait and wait and when he finally gets here, it's boom, it's done, right? And uh I can't remember. Well, I guess Sam's not here. Are are we using my uh T- splice funds or splice? Splice. Okay.

1:16:37 – 1:17:15Speaker 1

So, because we we had talked about uh either Varnardo or Ununice Road or No, not Ununice. uh the road that goes through Eagles uh Eagles Landing. Eagles Landing. Right. Yes. I got you. So, we probably need to discuss which one you want to start on and when you're ready to start on T4. And and al also, Mr. Chair, uh I I think we need to design a Tespl that's that's separate from splice. Okay. So, people know the difference. That'd be great. Cool. I think I just drew one paper.

1:17:13 – 1:17:52Speaker 1

Here you go. All right. Mayor Todd Road, we've been waiting a long time for our appraisals and they came in this week. So, we'll be having a lot of uh meetings with the property owners in the next month or so. So, uh that should be looking a little different as far as my report goes. Uh because we finally got through those appraisals. Um Highway 17, Bington Ferry Road, Lewis Rage Road intersection, the roundabout. Um we have our PFPR which is preliminary field plan review Thursday. What time? So well it starts in Savannah at 9 and then we come out here and it's it's an all day affair.

1:17:49 – 1:19:46Speaker 1

Okay. Um but you can go out there. Uh you can see orange in the road where I've I've put dots where the new center line is going to go cuz if you're coming from Riceboro toward Midway, the road's going to kind of go off to the road to the right and then it'll turn back into the the big middle of the triangle and then when you get past the triangle, you can see the orange dots in the road where kind of get back into where the road's going to be. So you got some twisting and turning to do. Um, as a matter of fact, uh, some of my employees were, you know, like, why are we doing this? When they were out there staking it, and they saw almost saw three wrecks in one day where people just aren't stopping and turning. And I think there's a lot more danger to that intersection than we actually see. Uh, also you can see Lewis Frasier Road. It's going to turn a little bit and the way Bington Ferry Road will turn a little bit. So, you can kind of walk out there and see kind of what's happening if you just kind of walk around and look. Um, now the paint won't stay forever, but it'll be there for a little bit and you can kind of see where things are. Um, which brings me to my last item, which is the next item on the agenda, if that's okay for me to move right into that to go along with the Bington Ferry Road, uh, Lewis Frasier Highway 17. One of the things we have to do is there are two things. We'll end up maintaining the lighting because we'll have street lights here. It's not time to sign that agreement yet, but also we have to agree to do the mowing and uh landscape maintenance very similar to what we do at the intersection of 17 and 196 where we have a little bit of landscaping. We'll have a little bit of landscaping in the middle of the roundabout because you want something that's a visual that's kind of in the way. You know, you don't want to just trucks just drive right through the middle of it. Um but we have to agree to maintain that and mow that intersection. So, uh, the

1:19:45 – 1:20:24Speaker 1

Department of Transportation has a standard, uh, agreement, which is, you know, looks like my good buddy Kelly made dro wrote it, but, uh, we went through it pretty good and it's pretty much, you know, what we need to do is, uh, get authority for the chairman to sign this. So, um, but that's so when it comes to the lighting, I'm I'm being educated. So, there's no sharing. has become a No, there's not a lot of shares. That's a state highway. It's kind of like our intersections at 95 and 17. Yeah.

1:20:22 – 1:20:59Speaker 1

And Riceboro, we pay the bill for those lights there. And likewise, uh the LCDA pays for the light bill and the maintenance of the lights at 95 and uh Highway 84. But yeah, most of the time the lighting's like that. The local government ends up paying that. since you mentioned the light app I mean 84 and 95 half of them still don't work they don't so as a matter of fact why why are we constantly paying the bill and that's a excellent question

1:20:56 – 1:21:46Speaker 1

that's an excellent question so we actually know that it's a problem we actually have a million dollars set up in this T-splash that we just started collecting and also applied for a grant don't know I'm in the running or not, but we applied for a grant to get some federal dollars to assist in trying to do that. So hopefully the funding, if we are awarded some grant, and the funding that comes in for the uh um from Tesplash, it'll build enough that 27 28 we can actually do the lighting at 95 and 84. Um and then shortly thereafter we can move to the lighting at 17 and uh I95. So, but we are we do know it's a problem and and it's I'll be honest with you,

1:21:45 – 1:22:26Speaker 1

been a problem to to to do a 30,000 foot view when they built a lot of stuff when they were building 995. All all that got put in there and then, you know, the contractor kind of went bankrupt while it was going on. Then they had to get another contractor to come in and fix it. And so a lot of lines got plowed through and cut and they have tried to fix those lights multiple times over the years and they will operate for matter of months and then they start going back out again. Yes sir. So actually we just throwing away good money.

1:22:24 – 1:22:56Speaker 1

Yes sir. Yeah. We need if we go on lights, we need to get them fixed and we need to fix them and replace everything and we need to start over so we have a good solid product cuz right now we got something that's something broke somewhere. Nobody can fix it. So, but anyhow, that's on a different subject. This is the maintenance agreement for mowing and the landscaping at the uh roundabout 17 Barington Ferry Lewis Freighter.

1:23:01 – 1:23:41Speaker 1

So before you even get the project completed, well it it tells you that it's at the end of the project. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. It doesn't start until it doesn't commence until the project's finished. It's one of those checklist items we got to get through before we get to the end of the project. Get it out. It's just we got to prove that we're going to do it that we're going to maintain that we're going to do it. Okay. Yeah. I mean, we actually sign it and the way it reads, if I'm not mistaken, it doesn't take place until the improvements are made. Okay. Okay. All right.

1:23:38 – 1:24:11Speaker 1

All right. And this is one of the boxes we have to check off for. Okay. All right. All right. We going to take staff advice. All right. Chairman obtain a motion to approve the rightway maintenance agreement for the roundabout at Barington Ferry Highway 17. Lewis Fraser. I like that motion. Second. Motion is second by Commissioner Thrill. I know we got to get used to it. Any further discussion? All in favor show hands, please. All right. You Thank you very much, sir.

1:24:09 – 1:24:52Speaker 1

Actually, that's all I have tonight. Trent uh very quickly even the every time I come in on 196 from Savannah when I look at the our little spot right there DOT won't let you division I welcome the Liberty County sign there but DOT won't allow you to put anything in there at all. We need to go back and at the time when we were looking at that we had different people in the positions over there. I think it's time to go back and look at it because I think I've seen several places throughout the state that have those now. Yeah. So, I think that's something we need to re-evaluate, bring up again. Yes, sir. Because we've had several times that, you know, we've gone through tried to have a selection committee to try to figure out a sign or something to do in there. Yeah.

1:24:50 – 1:25:35Speaker 1

And then it kind of dies away because not a lot of interest on the DOT side, but I we got a different uh district engineer over there now and different traffic ops guy. So, you know, I I I say let's try it again. Mr. there. Yes, sir. Sometimes it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission. I wish that was one that you could just ask for permission. You got too many eyes on that one. Oops. I've tried that. I've tried that lots of times, but that doesn't always work. Sorry. Have you if you start working on that? Is that a letter or email to Troy? What's whatever that is? Looks like Yes, sir. We'll we'll we'll get a look. We'll get a letter.

1:25:33 – 1:26:14Speaker 1

Think about that. Coming in there, man. Something says, "Okay." Yeah. Welcome. biggest restriction probably have to be a breakaway sign would well what we had looked at in the past were not necessarily breakaway signs but you know you get you get far enough out that you're out of the clear zone because they have a distance away from the clear zone for based on the speed and there's enough room that we can pull it so that we're out of the clear zone on the main line out of clear zone on 196 and in the clear zone on the the access road I'm all for so I think we can make it happen Just Trent it'll be stuck out in the middle.

1:26:10 – 1:26:55Speaker 1

Trent, I got one question on the Macintosh overpass at the Macintosh overpass where the store is at. You remember a while back when we that roundabout that was in there and then all of a sudden the truck started coming out in front of the store. That's not an approved driveway up the hill loaded. What did we ever decide on that? Or what the D? That's the DOT enforcement issue. And you check back with them cuz it's getting it's getting worse. Yes, sir. Because that's where Mr. Smith died and that's one of the reasons we moved that whole intersection. I didn't know that. Yeah. You Mr. Charles Smith?

1:26:55 – 1:27:39Speaker 1

Yeah. That's where he died. Right. Cuz what they're doing, chairman, they're coming right out in front of the store now. loaded and trying to go up the hill. So really we are back to the old route of the 196. Yeah. Rather than coming to the light. Okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. I can take care of that on that. Welcome to Liberty County sign. Would you do that at every entrance to Libert? Wait. I was thinking we could do something to You're right. I was already thinking when the bypass when it's done, you know, something coming in that way. All the gateways need to have something. Yes, sir. You know, remember has the most space for it. We had a committee four or five years ago. Yeah. 12 years ago.

1:27:37 – 1:28:19Speaker 1

It's been a long time. We had a committee looked at some different signs and tried to get a theme together. So, we need to resurrect that and see what we can do. That'd be something good to add to the Liberty County's birthday celebration. I know that's a that's a big landscape area right coming out of Richmond Hill, but um the rest of them you can do a smaller something from um coming in from South Newport into Riceboro space there. Well, and you know where you have the 84 connector comes out right there in Walarville. Now you have a little bit better place to put something small there. So, you know, there's a lot of things

1:28:18 – 1:29:02Speaker 1

the little fork right there. We're coming in from Long County. Right. Right. Right. One there. Something in there. Trent, thank you for your help. uh in Warthowlville. Oh yes sir. They we also got some action at Bakerton Baptist Church. Yes sir. We got a relief on the water. Yes sir. So I I was glad to help. Glad I was able to get that facilitated a little bit. And I do have his number now. Yes sir. Oh he's he's very responsive. They're very good. I told I think Miss Hunter uh I was watching uh the live stream of Waltharville uh city council meeting maybe maybe a month ago now time flies. They had the project engineer at their meeting.

1:29:01 – 1:29:46Speaker 1

Yeah, they did. Who gave them a full layout? We need that person to come here, right? Okay. Yeah. He he came. In fact, he offered to give them a tour. He was very cordial. Okay. Yeah. That person needs to come here. Yeah. I I'll be glad to try to find that. You may do you recall I ask you that question. Is that someone who could do that? Your I'm not sure who it was. Yeah. But um I'll call and see if Tim can tell me. Right. Well, she see Miss Moss has the name. Shout out. But that person came and did a whole took his time and explained everything. Give them, you know, ride. Get with me and we'll take a ride down there. Oh, that's good. Yeah. I'll be glad try to help facilate that. We need that here, sir. Yeah, we can do that. All right. All right. All right. Thanks, sir.

1:29:45 – 1:30:01Speaker 1

Write these down. I'm getting too much to remember. All right, I got no more questions. Better run. Y'all have a good night. All right. Thank you, sir. Old business proposed amendment this requirement for on premises and off premises sale of alcohol. Mr. Brickson, you're back.

1:29:59 – 1:31:57Speaker 1

Yes, sir. Uh, at your last meeting on April the 16th, we had gave first reading to an ordinance to update your alcohol ordinance. This is not one of our planning ordinances. This is one of your regular ordinances, chapter 4 of the code of ordinances that applies to the sale of alcohol. Uh currently, uh your ordinance kind of treats all alcohol establishments one-sizefits-all. It treats a a bar and restaurant the same as it does Parker and and Inm Market the same as it does a grocery store. And what we proposed to do here is just try to break it out a little bit and treat treat them differently because they do have different impacts on the neighboring properties. Uh for your on premises consumption, we're still uh pretty much leaving that unchanged from what it previously was. Uh you still have some distance requirements from areas zone residential. You'd have distance requirements from churches and you'd have distance requirements from governmentr run alcoholic treatment centers and also distance requirements from libraries, mortuaries, schools and college campuses. But the big change that we're proposing here is under the off- premises. That's where you take your you take your package and you leave. And we we even divide that into two different categories. One is own one is uh liquor stores and the other one would just be beer and wine. So liquor stores are typ they're regulated by the state and they're typically just for that type of sale. Liquor you don't typically get liquor at grocery stores or sea stores. It's only usually at a a licensed liquor store. So uh we do we do have some distance requirements for liquor stores that are more than just the beer and wine for instance. Uh, and in fact, this mirrors what what's the state regulations. In fact, a lot of these are are designed to bring your alcohol distance requirements more in line to what the state requires. Currently, you require more than what the state requires. Um, so for uh for for say off- premises, uh, you're still

1:31:55 – 1:33:33Speaker 1

required to have 300 feet off premises liquor stores, you're still required to have 300 feet from a governmentrun alcoholic treatment center. That's right out of the state requirement. uh you you have to you have to be 300 feet from a church building or other place that used exclusively from religious proceedings that you're already requiring that and we're just proposing to continue that. In addition to that, back to the state requirement, you got to be 600 feet from the property line of any library, mortuary, school or college campus. So the the area that's most critical is the next the next area and that would be uh for wine and malt beverages. And so there we we're getting rid of the distances from residential and church and we're just sticking with the state requirements which are 300 ft from a governmentr run alcoholic treatment center and 300 feet from the property line of any school or college campus. So that's the change and the the distance the measurement process is still as it is currently in the ordinance. So I'd be glad to answer any questions. As I said this has been read once and tonight it's for your consideration. This was what's the word? Spurned by a request from district 4. Am I correct, sir? Um, but not that it shouldn't have been um well, usually these things don't come when there's been a request for it. So, now we know it's a improvement enhancement we can make to our ordinance. And but I just always wanted to make sure that we're not doing anything that's going to hurt us down the road. Not I don't see where this would, but if we find out so we can come back and revoke it.

1:33:33 – 1:34:12Speaker 1

Y this this brings your your ordinance more in line to what the state requires. And I will say that the city of Heinesville about five years ago updated their ordinance to be more like this. When the uh when the little sea store on Memorial Drive closed and ceased to be a Clydes when the new owner bought it and wanted to reopen, they couldn't open because there's a church right across the street and libraries over here and they had a one-sizefitit all. So they kind of separated that out and brought it more in line with the state. So the sea store was able to reopen in that spot. All right, Mr. Chair. A motion then. Some move, Mr. Chair.

1:34:09 – 1:34:40Speaker 1

Motion in a second. He he was you good that we approve this uh resolution and uh we'll see how it works. Any further discussion? All in favor? Show your hands, please. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Rickerson. Uh new generator for the airport, Mr. Mosley. Here,

1:34:38 – 1:35:23Speaker 1

Mr. Chair, members of the board. um have before you here a proposal uh to install a uh generator at the mid coast mid coast regional airport. The um the military side has access to a airport but the operation side which is where our fixed base operator is does not have a generator and so uh this has been desire of the um FBO as well as the development authority to have a op uh to have a generator. So, the project was sent out the bid. We received four. Two of them were not uh responsive to the bid. And we are recommending that the board um award this to RL Chton Electric in the amount of $156,000.

1:35:24 – 1:36:04Speaker 1

Who who is involved in this? Mr. Motion? Uh Mr. Uh Mr. Brown. Uh I mean Mr. O'Hagen and myself, Liberty County and Hinesville on this generator. Who else going to pay for it? Uh, it will come from some splash funds. Splash funds. Okay, sir. In front of my hand up. What's the final? What's the amount, sir? 156. 156,000. All right. Chair entertain a motion.

1:36:04 – 1:36:48Speaker 1

I I just I just Well, I'll wait to the the question. Question. I make a motion for approval. Okay. Second. Second. Now discussion, sir. Uh Mr. Mosley, you said it's coming from SPAS funds. Can can you elaborate a little bit more on that? Uh it's some funds in the uh splash set aside for the Mid Coast Airport. Okay. So, so it was already set aside for for a generator or just left over just airport for airport. Okay. Maintenance or something else.

1:36:46 – 1:37:16Speaker 1

Anything in particular? It was some funds for the Mid Coast Airport operations improvements. Not operations improvements because you can't do it operations, but improvements. some of the other funds we get from um well operations. Um and then the three Peter Hinesville Development Authority, Liberty County, that it

1:37:13 – 1:37:57Speaker 1

for for for the airport operations. Yes, sir. they come out our general fund because the airport is really designed and it's about I'm not sure when it's time for a report again update on the airport but the um much of the funds that it take to operate coming from uh the u hangers rentals and those kind of things but but it's always going to be some maintenance uh cost to it but a lot of the uh and we can have that presented a lot of the expenses to operate airport comes from the rentals of the uh hanger there and that in fact at one time there were two flight schools out there. I'm not sure. I think one may have closed this one.

1:37:55 – 1:38:40Speaker 1

It's just one and you'd be pleased to know that one of the students from where is he from one of the high schools is completing his flying lessons. In fact, he should get his diploma and maybe his credentials about the same time, right? We're able to do it right here, which which is good. But yeah, if if we can't get because honestly I I maybe I vaguely remember, but I normally don't I haven't seen like a detailed list of of the expenses and and all of that from from the airport unless I'm Yeah, we had it. The did jury present who presented the last was it you? It would have been Joey. Okay. Because it's been a while since we've done it.

1:38:38 – 1:39:22Speaker 1

That's that's the only thing. And and actually at our annual conference, I met with uh what is that association of of airports in in Georgia. It's like the Georgia airport association. I never knew it's likeund9 airports. Oh yeah, man. That's a lot. Right. And from what I'm what I was told that Yeah. It's it's a waiting list at almost every airport for for hangers. So I do get that. But I just I know with us being in a partnership I I don't never remember us getting like a detail. We we have it's it's been at least three years since y'all had a report. Oh yeah. So if we get an updated report I mean and they always partners

1:39:20 – 1:40:05Speaker 1

I'm sorry I mean cut you off. Uh the airport always too sends in this budget for our approval. Yes sir. So we can do the airport budget. So it comes across our but we'll but we'll we'll have okay we can get it for you. We anytime that's fine. Okay. Copy the latest. Okay. And we'll if you mind chair we'll schedule uh someone to come and bring a report. Okay. Sometime in June or July. Sounds good. Sure. Ready to vote. All in favor show of hands please. All right. Splas will come to our rescue again. Uh opioid funds committee recommendation. Who's on that committee? It was a joke. I know. Not me. Commissioner Thrift. Yes. Commissioner Thrift Stevens. And who? We got

1:40:04 – 1:40:47Speaker 1

I figured you skipped one on the alcohol fe alcohol. Mine goes from alcohol. Oh, I'm sorry. I saw your name twice. I just got that increase. I'm sorry. I thought it was the same line. They stop me at any time, please. Mr. Chair, members of the board, uh this is a resolution to increase the alcohol license fees. Um we have not increased the fees um in forever. And we not just increasing them, we increase them, but you know, we're taking consideration inflation and uh changing operations. So that's a list of of uh fees that we have. And uh Commissioner Fraser,

1:40:46 – 1:41:29Speaker 1

I was on that committee. I was a committee at one. Oh, two. My bad. Comm Commissioner Frasier as we were in the um used to be in a committee at one or two. As we were in the uh work session uh our work session, he he would like to review some fees with us. And so we we met with him and uh this is proposal that we have uh to increase our fees and we've looked at other surrounding counties for city. Okay. Yes, ma'am. We prepared a spreadsheet and looked at them and we're still we're still in in we're still lower. I'll make a motion we approve the alcohol fees license fees.

1:41:27 – 1:41:58Speaker 1

Motion and second we approve the proposed alcohol free. This will become effective when um July 1. July one. All right. Second. Commission blunt. There we go. Any further discussion? All in favor show hands, please. Uh, thank you, Commissioner Fraser, for working on that. You're welcome, Miss Hunter. Thank you for your guidance. Oh, man.

1:41:55 – 1:42:49Speaker 1

Mr. Chairman, um, the committee, myself and Commissioner Blunt, and then Mr. Stevens said in on that also. And uh we want to make a recommendation for approval of the applications that we received uh for the opioid settlement funds. Uh 20,000 for drug court. Veterans treatment court was 20,000. Family treatment court was 20,000. The NAR box for EMS is 32,195. The sheriff's office uh chance program is 19,788 and that was a leaves the balance of um 11,6151.

1:42:50 – 1:43:35Speaker 1

That was that's the balance left, right? Yes, sir. Okay. Uh remind me um you said I'm too soon, sir. Um I know class action this is the only a lotment or there'll be future a lotments I don't remember. M mr chair members of the board uh we were notified by the national opioid settlement fund that we will be receiving additional funds. I just signed off on a document and we just got in another 2,000 uh about two weeks ago. So as the funds are continue out of the settlement, we continue to get a fund. So it'll be ongoing. Okay.

1:43:33 – 1:44:15Speaker 1

Um and I think um I read somewhere probably over the next six seven years. Oh wow. Okay. So the funds are continue but we will we will have a application period a window. Uh this will as they mentioned this what we had about 120ome,000 this would exhaust it down to about 11. So as we as we build up um probably in 2028 it' be a good time but we should be increasing. we should have enough to have some more competitive. I'm kind of thinking if this become public, which it is, someone else may want to um apply. So that's why I say is there a certain window of time or as funds are

1:44:12 – 1:44:43Speaker 1

available. I I I know that y'all want to be a little bit more generous on this first round. So maybe in the next round if we got a smaller amount, y'all may want to um decrease the amount that you give out. All right. Does this mirror how we manage the date funds? That's what I was about to ask. Yes, sir. I believe it did. But there, you know, the restrictions of what um they can spend the funds on

1:44:41 – 1:45:17Speaker 1

it on these ones that uh the restrictions are from the national guidelines. It has to be associated with something with opioid um counseling or medication, but it's very narrow. It's not a broad And if I remember correctly that there's an application window for the date funds. Yes, sir. I believe so. Anyone? My opponent is we probably need to uh I'll get with we'll get with Heather and we'll get with uh a finance department and bring y'all some familiar may get application in soon,

1:45:14 – 1:45:51Speaker 1

right? Because uh I don't I don't know how true it is or not, but I we needed the followup anyway. Man, somebody been eating on my desk or something. uh with the with the Boys and Girls Club. I I think they said they they applied for something and haven't received a response. I think they did, sir. Uh they may be eligible on the date. On the date, right? Uh we'll uh we'll get with finance department and bring y'all back a report. Okay. Yeah, I think it was a date. Something funds. Yeah. Okay. Did we vote? No, I I did I'm sorry.

1:45:49 – 1:46:43Speaker 1

I did have a question, Mr. Chairman. I know um at the last meeting um when we were talking about the committee and um Commissioner Frasier just said, "Why am I never on the committee?" I said, "Well, you can have my spot." We and we kind of laughed and but when I left because I had a packet, a binder and um I thought I was on committee now that was two weeks ago. I thought I was on committee along with Commissioner Thrift and Commissioner Blunt. At least I thought I was because I I did get to buy and then I sent an email the last couple of weeks since we met. Um I've been on a lot of regional stuff on my day job and I didn't have a chance to meet but I did send an email out saying you know have we met and um didn't get no reply. I think I copied you and Mr. Mosley and Connie and Tim. But um but if um

1:46:42 – 1:47:26Speaker 1

I'm assuming they may I guess so if they making a recommendation but if I um if I'm not on the committee I I know now but I thought I was when we left here even though we we kind of joke when Joseph said um why am I never on the committee and I said well you can have my spot. We laugh in the meeting of jury. I think it probably just kind of fell through the cracks and stuff. Yeah, I remember you saying that. But I don't know how nothing like that could fall through the cracks. If you're on the committee, you're on the committee. Hey, I used to I used to be on the You're saying that you give up your and I was going to give it up to Justin because he But I didn't say I don't remember. I wasn't respons but no. And if I did, I wouldn't have sent that email. Yeah. If I had

1:47:25 – 1:48:10Speaker 1

You didn't get a response from the email. No, that was Friday when I got back from all this. But but I'm good not being on it. I just didn't know that I wasn't on it until I saw that the recommendation was coming up. Now I am on We got these board appointments. This is the left side of the chairman this year. Uhhuh. I think I'm still on that committee, but we'll find out in just a few minutes. Okay. I I guess I guess I'm good not being on it. I just didn't know that I was on. All right. I I guess in in the future, can we just have a list of the committees and who are on the committees or is it just

1:48:09 – 1:48:39Speaker 1

we'll we'll get Maria to provide that for you guys? But I'm not on the opio committee. So don't Maria don't need to do that. Yeah. Okay. I'm good. I'm just trying to remember. Ready to vote. But but if we didn't respond to your email, I sent it to um Commissioner Blunt, Commissioner Thrift. I copied you and Mr. Mosley Friday morning.

1:48:36 – 1:49:19Speaker 1

Friday apologize because I'm going to try to respond to emails. But if um if that was Friday morning and we voting on it today, it's obvious the meeting had already took place prior to Friday or y'all did it Saturday, Sunday or or yesterday, you know, to have a recommendation. So when I sent the email, maybe it was already a done deal. That's why there was no sense to reply. It was made mention at the last meeting that I asked did I wanted to be on it. When did y'all meet? That's how I got there. Yesterday. We talked about it. We talked about it Saturday and Sunday

1:49:17 – 1:49:58Speaker 1

kind of like what we did with the with these other board appointments. Okay, I'm good. Okay. Um, but if we need another we try to have it. So, one, two, three. No, I No, I I don't I don't I just I needed to say that though and I did. Yeah. You'll meet again for a while. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. Thank you, sir. Uh we didn't vote though. We had all in favor. Thank you. Now you ready for the board of minutes?

1:49:52 – 1:50:33Speaker 1

Yes sir. And um as the chairman of the selection committee. Um I did um communicate um with Commissioner Walden um and Commissioner Blunt and I copied um Mr. Mosley and the chairman because Eddie is still in the in the um hospital and we're ready to u make the board's recommendation and and all of the recommendations um unanimous. So I'll start first with the coastal regional commission

1:50:30 – 1:51:06Speaker 1

and we are recommending u that we reappoint Pastor Richard Hayes. Commissioner Blunt, will you make that into a motion, sir? I make a motion that we accept um on the Coastal Regional Commission and Pastor Richard Hayes. I'll second it. Second. Any further discussion? I can say he's been serving very very well. All in favor? Show of hands, please. All right. Re Hayes is reappointed. Okay. Coastal, you going to round down the line?

1:51:04 – 1:51:45Speaker 1

Okay. The Coastal Workforce Investment Board. Uh the recommendation um from all members of the board is that we appoint Roland Van Horn. Van Horn. Is that the guy that was the principal? Uhhuh. Now he's he's over the LCCA career academy. They don't call him principal. They call them CEOs. All right. Uh the recommendation someone make it that into a motion, please. Mr. Fraser makes that motion. Is that second? Commission. It's taco Tuesday. I'm sorry. I'm just trying and sing. We had two seconds on the go ahead.

1:51:43 – 1:52:14Speaker 1

All right. Any further discussion? All in favor, show your hands, please. Mr. Van Holmes, point to the coastal workforce investment board. Uh cultural and historic resources committee. Yes. Uh Mr. Chairman, of recommendation of the full board is that we uh reappoint the entire committee. Do you need the names? I got it on my email. Do you committee sufficient? I think for the matter of record, go ahead and just read the name. name in just a second.

1:52:11 – 1:52:53Speaker 1

Got it right now. Okay. Um, recommendation Jeffrey Porter, uh, Jason Baker, Lynn Pace, Lucer Love It, Lisa Laura Moore, and James Ingram Jr. be reappointed. Okay. Someone Phil ODM chairman chairman who's um is chairman. Okay. Someone make that into a motion, please. So move second that we have those said names to serve on the culture and historic resources committee and further discussion. All in favor show of hands. Those persons are reappointed.

1:52:51 – 1:53:36Speaker 1

And on the defax board, Mr. Chairman, uh we want to um defer that appointment. Um I want I would like for Mr. Mosley um if he would just set up a meeting with um the leadership of that board. Mosley, maybe you and I and Commissioner Blunt if he wants to attend. But I do have some questions for the leadership of that defects board and then um we'll come back hopefully on the meeting on the 19th and make that that appointment. Okay. Georgia Forestry. Georgia Forestry. Um recommendation of the entire board is Jeff Marley. Someone make that into a motion, please. I'll make a motion we appoint Jeff Mobley to the Georgia for Jeff Mley has been

1:53:35 – 1:54:15Speaker 1

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And a second from Commissioner Frasier. Any further discussion? All in favor? Show your hands, please. Mr. Bob reappointed. Thank you, sir. Library board. Georgia forestry. Jeff. Okay. Library board. Uh recommendation of the entire board is Mayor Beth Deers. You serve. She's very passionate to uh chair a motion to that effect. So move a second. Second. Any further discussion? All in favor? Show of hands miss breakfast. She met with us during that whole library discussion and she was very rational about all those kind of things. Public facilities authority.

1:54:13 – 1:54:53Speaker 1

Uh yes. Our recommendation of the entire board is uh James Thomas recommendation. M Thomas can someone make a motion that effect please move Thomas second. Thank you. Any further discussion? All in favor show hand. Mr. Thomas is reappointed recreation board and that's a district u appointment. Um but um that's Edd's district. Yeah. Recommendation is Chuck Smith. Now do do we vote on that one or that's something that Eddie has? No. We vote on that. Yeah. The recommendation is for Chuck Smith of the entire board. I'm going to make that motion please move. Mr. Chair,

1:54:51 – 1:55:36Speaker 1

is there a second motion second? We have Mrs. Chuck Smith to serve Christian board. Did you second it? I made a motion, I think. Yeah. All right. All your hands, please. All right. Happy to have all those persons to serve. They did pretty good down there. Thanks, All right. I'll get with you on the defects appointment and I will within the next couple of weeks before the before the 19th. Yeah. Just when when is it that Next meeting on the not the 19th, next meeting is on the 21st. Yeah. Okay. We hopefully I'm free.

1:55:37 – 1:56:22Speaker 1

I'll reach out to her tomorrow. Okay. Your report, sir. M. Uh, let me uh I was going to make Oh, uh, very quick before we do that. Um, I had an opportunity to run into Miss Carissa Young, the former CEO or principal at Liberty County Career Academy. Whatever division of Hyundai she works for, more Liberty County folk have jobs than any other county. Y sometime we fuss about that. More Liberty County folks has jobs than any other county than Chadam and Effingham and Brian. They said Chadam has the next most people, but Liberty County has more folk employed there than any of the counties in the area. All right, sir.

1:56:20 – 1:56:39Speaker 1

Uh, Mr. chair, members of the board, uh, and our recognition of of the members of staff who went down to help Brantley County. I did forget to mention that Jean uh, was in contact with their EMS unit and they did y'all send somebody down to Jean?

1:56:40 – 1:57:22Speaker 1

Okay. So, but but Jean had had um, made contact in terms of being able to being available to provide mutual support. So, they let the ambulance uh personnel down there know that we will be there to assist. So, I just wanted to recognize him. I didn't want to leave them out. And also got a notice from um Kelly Wiggins that Miss Marcia Hamilton resigned from Hample Citizen Advisory Committee and she said that's a county appointment. So, that that vacancy uh we will be responsible for filling that that vacancy. So, I wanted to bring it to the board's attention. live down on the coast down there. I wonder one time they were thinking about relocating. I wonder if that's

1:57:21 – 1:57:43Speaker 1

Yes, sir. That's that's what the uh notification was. Yeah. A good example. Somebody that love staying here, but the husband had a great job offer. So, and that that concludes my report, sir. All right. 10 minutes late. Let's get up out of here. Chain a motion to journ. All right. Thank you.

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