Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

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If I would have known what I know now years ago, I would have been here much sooner. Hello Lee Summit. I'm Jordan. Here's your flash briefing for the week of April 20th. Earth Day is Wednesday, April 22nd. Celebrate by getting involved in local events like Sweep the Summit, Recycle Fest, and Drug Takeback Day. All happening Saturday, April 25th. Find full details on the city's website, city ofls.net. There is still time to review and comment on the capital improvement plan. The comment period for the 2027 to 2031 CIP will be open until midnight on April 22nd. Find a link to review and comment on the city's website. And city council will meet for regular session Tuesday night at 6 in council chambers in city hall. Following the regular session, newly elected officials will take part in a swearing in ceremony. Meetings are open to the public or watch live on the city's YouTube channel. If you can't watch, catch the recorded meeting on demand on the YouTube channel or by subscribing to the council debrief newsletter, which breaks down three to four key agenda items. Subscribe on the city's website. Thanks for listening and have a great week.

The city of Lee Summit has hundreds of traffic lights across its more than 1,000 lane miles, all managed by the city's public works traffic technicians. The work happens inside those metal boxes on the side of each intersection. Inside, technicians program a device called the controller. The controller communicates directly with each signal head via underground wires, telling each light when to turn on and off based on a program cycle. City traffic engineers designed this cycle to allow traffic to flow as efficiently as possible for that particular intersection. In order to best match current traffic patterns, they install something called a detection system. Detection systems have taken many forms over the years, from sensors in the pavement to radar boxes. But in Lee Summit, they primarily consist of cameras which workers mount above the traffic signals. These cameras don't record video or your speed. Instead, they monitor the spaces at the front of the intersection and identify when a vehicle is present in a specific spot. Once a vehicle is identified, the detection system sends a message to the controller, which then adapts its standard cycle to best serve the cars that are present. The pedestrian button works in a similar way. When the button is pressed, the controller receives a signal requesting that it allow that section of the pedestrian walkway to go, which it then inserts into the signal pattern. Technicians also install something called a conflict monitor. The conflict monitor is a device in which they program all the potential patterns of lights that would lead to a collision. If the other systems mistakenly trigger those patterns, the conflict monitor sends the intersection into flash, causing all lights to flash red and directing drivers to treat it like an all-way stop. City traffic technicians implement and maintain these systems so effectively we rarely consider them. But every time we safely pass through a signal controlled intersection, it's all thanks to their work. So the next time you're waiting at a red light, remember the delicate coordination of super smart systems that move you through that space safely and efficiently every day.

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Good evening everyone. I'd like to welcome all of you to the Thursday, April 23rd to 2025 plan 26 planning commission meeting. Can we get a roll call attendance, please? Edward Yearington here. Payton Hatcher here. Terry Trafton, Dana Arth present. Jessica Greno present. Tanya Janifford present. Chip Tazinski present. Randy Benrook present. Thank you. And um I would like to welcome Payton Hatcher to the planning commission tonight. This is his first meeting and you'll get to jump in and get your feet wet.

Thank you. Can I get an approval of the agenda, please? And a motion. Madam Chairman, I'd like to make a modification to the agenda as presented. Is it okay? What modification would you like? Um, I would like to move agenda item C to the A position so that um we can continue that matter. So that' be the public hearing for the comprehensive plan amendment for the CIP. So item 6C on the agenda. Yes.

So where where are you moving it? Just to be first. Okay. Before agenda item A in the public hearing section. Yes, ma'am. Yes. Okay. I thought you were moving something off the consent agenda. No, within the agenda itself. Okay. All right. So, can we get a motion to approve the agenda as modified? Madam Chairman, I'd like to make a motion to approve the agenda as modified. Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Can we get a roll call vote, please? Edward Yearington, yes. Payton Hatcher,

yes. Dana Arth, yes. Jessica Greno, yes. Tanya Janifford, yes. Chip Tazinski, yes. Randy Benrook, yes. All right. Thank you. Do we have any public comments related to business of the planning commission in general? Okay, we will move on to the consent agenda. Can I get a motion to approve that? Motion to approve. Second. Can we get a roll call vote, please? Edward Yearington, yes. Payton Hatcher, yes. Dana Arth, yes. Jessica Greno, yes. Tanya Janifford, yes. Chip Tazinski, yes. Randy Benrook,

yes.

All right. Thank you. I'll now close the regular hearing and open the public hearing in the matter of let me see here. Application PL20269 comprehensive plan amendment capital improvement plan the CIP for 2027 through 2031. Does the applicant have a presentation? in

would all of the those who plan to speak on behalf of this application please stand up and be sworn in at this time. Do you promise to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth will help you God?

I do. Good evening. I'm George Binger, city engineer. Um, what I'm presenting this evening is the U proposed capital improvement plan um for the starting the fiscal year 2027. So, I'll walk through the presentation. Um, I'll probably just I'll put the slides up and talk and kind give you a chance to read them. If you need me to stop, slow down, just let me know. But, I don't plan on reading the slides. Just kind of let you walk through it. So, this is kind of the agenda, kind of go through the process, how we get here, and some of the details that are in the plan and the public comment. Um, and then I guess let me back up too as well. I'd like to enter in to the record exhibit A list of exhibits 1 through 8.

Exhibit A 1 through 8 entered into the record.

Thank you. Okay. So, the purpose of the plan is maintaining the city's infrastructure. And this is just an illustration of what the city um currently owns and is projected to grow. And this is strictly from the public works standpoint, storm water and roadway. And you can see the the big numbers storm water because that's all the structures. That's all the inlands and everything. So uh that's why that looks much bigger uh than it is. But you can see there the uh as the city grows, our infrastructure continued to grow. So this capital improvement plan is for um constructing, reconfiguring, rebuilding as well as um large improvements to existing infrastructure. And so that's that's what this is trying to address on this side. Uh it includes other uh facets such as our facilities, water, sewer, and um the airport um as well. So in this process, I like to describe it as a funnel. Um basically we're down here at this point in the process with the um the public comment period, public presentation and this is trying to illustrate that through this process there's many opportunities for public input. So um it kind of molds and guides uh what we put in here. So kind of starting at the very big picture, we have the comprehensive plan, the Ignite comprehensive plan that feeds into it. Uh our strategic plan and then from there we develop our master infrastructure master plan such as our water, sewer, thoroughfare master plans. And so we walk through this process and then um with that uh we put we put together this the plan for projects to uh deliver uh uh the these these goals for the city. So, the CIP is a planning document. Um, it's also a budget document. The five-year part that I'm presenting tonight is um is presenting the plan for the next 5 years. It is fiscally constrained. So, every project, every budget has funding identified uh to complete that project. And uh the projects that are in here are local policy. If it's more if it's more than

$75,000, we'll include it in the plan. Um sometimes we'll so that that plan or program. And then the state definition uh includes owned by a government agency included about not limited to um all the the items you see there um at the bottom. And so that's what we're required to uh show in this plan. So I mentioned the the input um it comes through um we closed the online period. One of the things that public works committee's asked us to do and we're going to work is working is developing on our website where we can have this open year round so that people can make comments on plans, recommendations and requests year round and kind of guide into this because one of the things that we get um with uh public works and water utilities is we track service requests. These are when people call and they complain about traffic, storm water, flooding. And so over time, those that's part of that public input, all the service requests and work orders that that uh we we have uh because that'll feed into the asset management. An example of that would be the Southeast Douglas project. Um for many years, we've getting lots of calls and service requests related to storm water, a need for sidewalks um in that area that between on Douglas uh south of Fourth Street. So that um so that program was kind of on that list or bench of projects and so when the bond issue came forward we were able to present that and that and that's how we allocated funding for that but we knew there was a public demand for it and then we have elections um is another form of input proving sales tax bond issues all the planning documents I described go through a public uh uh comment uh process as well and then we present this um process at several stages uh through the public works committee. Um when we look at the re review process, obviously we have guidance from uh council and planning commission uh looking at conditions within the strategic plan, the comp plan. And one of the main policies we have when it

comes to sales tax um funding is we want to cash flow these projects. So we don't use the sales taxes for debt debt financing. Obviously on the water utility side since they're based on user fees. Uh they base that their projects and capital planning on cash flow basis. We we look at the comments. We submit these um the ones we received online. The three we received online have been submitted in the public record. Um, two of those comments are related to storm water in the downtown area and one was related to uh a traffic or proposed uh project near um Todd George Olden Parkway near between Todd George and Blackwell. So then we look at prioritizing you know getting the funding you know so some of the prioritization we look at in staff you know infrastructure condition the cost you know service life things um is there a public safety issue like traffic signals that's the main driving factor uh when those are added to the program. So when we look at some of our factors now, the ones that have a star by it indicate where we definitely have we have council or public input. Um we have input on that on the left. Those are things we look at as staff that may may guide what we're doing such as safety mandates and regulations like uh clean water act uh for our erosion control uh storm water and water and sewer capacity issues uh when it gets comes to traffic infrastructure condition uh like our storm water if we have failing um metal pipe that leads to that metal pipe program that we have. And so these just some of the factors that we look at and again and then when we get into this act annual approval process we start off with what's required. Some projects have been presented in a bond issue. We have to do that project. Uh some where we have an inter agent agreement or a grant. We have to do that project. Highly recommended. Uh those are projects where uh like in our um sales tax elections we go out we don't put a list of projects on the ballot. we have

a in the public education and information we say these are the projects we'd like to do with this funding and we kind of look at that as almost kind of like as a social contract with the community that we've made a commitment to do those projects. So that that's another thing that that feeds into that. Then we look at the um and then we periodically touch on the unfunded list of projects so that we can identify build that bench for um future funding opportunities. The uh again, as I mentioned earlier, the five-year plan is is adopted as an amendment to the comprehensive plan and then the first year FY27 will be um authorized as part of the city's annual budget. Um h how a lot of this happens is again we have these programs um some going back to 1985 with the sales tax. Uh we we started the parks and wreck has an ongoing sales tax. Uh we have our uh the CIP sales tax goes back to 1997 and it's been renewed twice uh since then. The excise tax uh which is a tax on uh new development or redevelopment that generates uh new traffic uh that that goes into uh that excise tax fund and that is for u roadway improvements anywhere within the city. It's not necessarily tied to a development project and and the guidance on that from the license tax committee is we want to make sure it benefits multiple um locations. So, an example of that would be uh we use this funding as like our seed money for the 291 interchange project and you know 291 and 50 north. We we allocated $6 million to that that we were able to match that with grant money to show the local commitment. And so that's kind of what got that project going um um for that. And then the use tax uh that mirrors uh in any of our dedicated sales taxes that we have long-term commitments. This is where things like the comprehensive plan and and planning um studies come into play. Um an example, first project that I

worked on I think in 1999 was the Todd George and Scrugs Road improvements that was planned in 1968. It's based on alignment studies from 1968 that was matched up with funding in the 1997 sales and excise tax. And then um that also led to like the bond issue we had in the 1990s uh which Ward Road was part of that uh between Third Street and Long View. And we can see how with that master plan, Ward Road has been improved um in phases uh over time. 291 South Corridor is kind of an example where more on the planning side that came into play uh where you know you now see the Chick-fil-A, the Q39, all that's going in that that's been in that's been in the works for quite some time. But knowing that there's that comprehensive land use plan, that's how we were we were working on Shear uh you know, Shear Road, Jefferson improvements, uh the interchange project there for 291 South, all of that was done based on some of the land use planning for for that area. So, as an example, what we look at like in the sales tax, so this is a our CIP sales tax. When this was renewed in 2017, we were projecting $150 million over 15 years. So what so that's what these lines are showing over here. We programmed less than that just to account for you know um changes and issue you know that the revenue didn't meet the expectations project cost u go up um significantly but what you what you're seeing here with the green line is the actual revenues with inflation over time. The red line is what we've spent over time. Now with with this there's a lot of the reason we're able to exceed this um currently is because of the grants we've received. Grants are not planned into our forecasting um for these projects. The other thing we did not know at this time was there was we're going to be adding the use tax which adds about $2 million per year to this fund. Um the

sales tax is about 12 million. The use tax is about uh 2 million. And so what we're seeing is going from 150 to close to 230 $230 million of revenue over this 15-year time span. So that's why you see some projects um you know that's allowed us to do a lot more on the stormwater side on the capital side. So these are but these are um some of the things um that allows us to um make small changes in the plan. We're committed to the sales tax. We're committed to the overall comprehensive plan. when we actually start sequencing projects, scoping projects, this has allowed us to make certain changes in this area. So, this is an example on this how this um sales tax has worked for us. And this is kind of these are the projects that were presented in 2017. Um we're basically halfway through this. Uh we've completed 10 projects. 12 are underway out of the total of 26. And some of these are ongoing programs like the CMP, the corrugated metal pipe replacement program. Um that's an ongoing so we're we're spending about you know half a million to a million dollars every year on that until we hit the the max for that um for that program. Uh say the same thing with the sidewalk gap program where we're trying to fill in the gaps. you know, we as as we have projects we can um we may be able to add to that. Uh this is a this is just an illustration of what we currently have with grants. Um these are the active grant projects that we have. Uh this is close to um again close to about 30 um about um excuse me 33 million for transportation. Uh the airport, a lot of that um the aviation infrastructure is supported by grants. Um a lot of those grants are for the aviation are between a 90 to 95% um federal and state cost share. So it's basically this cost the city 5% of the project 5 to 10% of that

project. So that's things for like runway uh potentially air traffic control tower um taxiways things that support the aviation side. Now hanger 2 is a ground it's considered groundside infrastructure. So that was locally funded through our bond issue. Now, the general terminal building, it's it's a mix between aviation support and ground site. So, that's why you see some grant money associated with that. Okay. So, highlights for this uh this year's CIP. Um from prior years through FY27, we're programming approximately $436 million of work in all categories. Over the life of this five-year pro uh plan, it's closer to $750 million in in program projects. We've closed 28 projects that will no longer be in the CIP, and I've got a list of those on the next slide totaling about 139 million. We're adding 20 new projects and programs of about 53 million. And so you can see the new projects on the left. Uh most of the programs are annual like our overlay program, water rehab. So the projects you see like mostly in the airport um bridge street and signal um are things that we we've added um this year and then completed projects you can see hanger 2 and then when you go below the programs that's we're we're counting like Chipman Road, Coburn Road um the um of course the Green Street uh project across the street. So those projects were completed um in this last fiscal year. So those will be coming off the CIP. Okay. This is an example of basically how we

resequence stuff. All these projects are in the plan, but when we start looking at do we want this project to go first? Do we need to move it, you know, out a a few years for funding or back? you know, this is some of the some of the detail stuff that that we'll work on that we work through. Uh, one of the conversations we're having like on the sidewalk gap program is that goes back to our uh 2007 inventory where we looking specifically at gaps and we had to find that by near schools. Well, we get a lot of comment where places that aren't defined as a gap. Example would be in Green Street in the downtown area. There is continuous sidewalk, but it's not on the same side of the street. So to use the sidewalk, you have to go go a few blocks, cross the street, go down the other street. So those are the comments we're going to have a public works committee. Do we want to re-evaluate that? Because we pretty well completed all the tier ones, which are within a quarter mile of the elementary schools. We we've completed all those gaps. We've completed all the easy ones where it's just pretty much laying sidewalk. The program we have this year um requires a lot of, you know, retaining wall construction, utility relocation. So that's just an example of how we we kind of as staff will kind of tweak this within the guidelines or parameters that we have. So this is kind of breaking out the the total um by the different categories. Uh again the programs are generally the annual uh overlay slurry seal uh water rehab um or like water facilities programs. uh the airport. Uh what you're seeing here is with the completion of hangar 2 and the admin building. Um that's completing most of the ma the large master plan projects that are in there. Um this could change significantly if we're able to add the air traffic control tower because this project does include design for that. Um it's in a um a list of congressional projects going forward for funding that we would have the answer on that this year, but that would be a $10 million project that probably could be added in the next uh capital improvement plan if that moves forward. Uh Bridge Street and Signal U,

again, you're seeing that we're complete, you know, as you saw on the illustration with the sales tax, we're completing a lot of the the big projects. So that's why you'll see like the cost is starting to go down on some of these because Coleman Road uh Prior Road were you know both 25 to30 $30 million projects which were some of the largest projects we've done uh within the city facilities again you're seeing the completion of of of uh Green Street the joint operations center a lot of those in the bond issue projects so that's why you're seeing that starting to taper off a little bit u then uh water that continues to stay pretty steady because one of their main um expenses is the water rehab program. That's where they have to go out and you know replace old water man that you know where they could, you know, mainly due to frequent uh breaks of the water man. So that's um so that's what we're um planning over the next five years. So how how we get there, this is an example of the detail sheet within the capital improvement plan. And so we all each project starts with its own independent cost estimate. our project managers um consultants will help develop a construction cost estimate and then we'll work through and develop the soft cost associated with that. So this is an example of Ward Road that's currently under construction over by Westview Elementary. Um again it started out it was identified in the 2016 throwfare master plan. Uh it's also part of the the greenway master plan. Um there's also you know pavement infrastructure and conditions. there's a need for that and we we got a lot of public input um requesting work in this area. Um some of the conversations we have with council are identifying the delivery method. Um so we've added that this year that's do we do a design build construction manager at risk some of the small stuff you know maybe like a job order contract. This is design bid build is how this one was delivered. So that that's been added this year. This is where and then the middle section is

where we identify the funding and we tie it to a specific source of of revenue. And down here at the bottom is where we ti we um show how it supports the strategic plan and the comprehensive plan. And so that's that's what we present on the detail projects. We work through each of these projects individually to roll up in those big numbers that that you see in the tables. This is our timeline. Um we're currently here at the planning commission. Again, we started this last fall. uh working with the public public works committee with the resolution. Then that goes to council in May and then when the budget is finalized that FY27 will be presented. Um one thing I I want just to share with you is this is what our online comment page looks like right now. If you go to the city website and you just in the search bar type capital improvement plan, it'll take you to this page. And so when you go to this page, there's a dashboard you can click on that will has a a map with GIS links on there. You can go, you can um zoom in on projects there. You can look up the uh current capital improvement plan. And this is where um um people can go to make comments on this. And if you if you click on the comment section, it'll the page that pops up is it'll have, you know, where you can look at the plan and submit a comment. When those comments are submitted, it generates an automated email um that that comes to us. And that's what is is one of the exhibits that was presented tonight. So with that, uh, it concludes my presentation. So I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have.

Thank you. Do we have any questions for the applicant? Commissioner Hatcher on the 2017 CIP sales tax um chart of different projects. What were the outstanding MDOT partnership projects?

The the highlight is underway. So a partnership is like our 291 the 291 50 highway 291 north interchange. Um we also use this to fund when uh MDOT redid Shipman Road. We paid for the the decorative improvements, the form liners on the bridge underneath. That was a city cost. And then we're also in the current grant application process through Mid America Regional Council. We're pursuing a cost share for improvements uh the pedestrian improvements at third and 50. So this this allows us to, you know, form those partnerships or again kind of some seed money to work with MODOT. So there's not necessarily long-term outstanding projects that just have not been completed.

Correct. Um most of the most of the stuff that we're deal that MDOT is pursuing is on their system and it's going to be handled through the state level like in like adding um like three laning 470. Um that that is on MODA has what's called an unfunded needs list that's evaluated annually and that project is on that list. Um but usually things that are on that list may move into their improvement plan. Um I think recently I think they had uh moved the uh US50 pavement reconstruction onto their transportation from the unfunded list to the program list. Thank you.

I have a few questions. Um I I saw toward the end of the presentation that items 75,000 or below are not considered as part of the CIP. Um I think it was it was actually it was the website page you showed um um

at the very end I think which I thought was actually really great. Yeah, that okay. So, it says 75 less than 75,000. So, that doesn't include those. Um, I just have a question and it it may not be an easy one to answer, but um a traffic light, what's the general cost of that? The last two signals installed um I believe were about um I want to say about $500,000 a piece. Okay. Okay. Generally, that's the starting price and then we have to do geometric improvements, add turn lanes or other things. The price goes up from there. Okay. So, so those do show up on the CIP. Yes.

Okay. So, when I was walking neighborhoods during the election period, I I spoke to several residents and they were um off of Woods Chapel, they asked about a traffic signal there. There's been some accidents there and there's been um a school bus was recently hit. And I'm talking like where Northeast It's on the north. It's North Park. No, wait a minute. It's um Northeast Park Spring on the north side and then Northeast Chapel. Um South South is that South Manor Drive? I can't read my writing, but it's right it's right there where if Savannah Ridge, I guess that's one of the subdivisions. And then I think the other one is um Park Park Ridge perhaps.

Um it's a really dangerous area because if you're turning left either from the north side or the south um it's scary. I don't like pulling out there and um a lot of the residents have been very really concerned about accidents. And so I guess my question is how does something like that that if a school bus gets hit is it Blue Springs school bus I would say that could even open the city up for some liability. Um I'm just questioning how how does that work? How do things get put on there that become more like an emergency situation if there have been accidents or is that an emergency? when when it comes to traffic signals, um the um excuse me, they're they're they're signal warrants. The so the intersections have to meet certain warrants. Um so, you know, those there's there's warrants like uh peak hour demand, total demand, accident history. Um those those are examples. Now, typically I if you know we if residents have an issue there, we encourage them to call public works at 9691800 so we can track that. We can get that we can log as a service request and our our our traffic staff does periodic I mean they do they they do they do traffic counts every year. They don't you know they they cycle through the city so that over time we get get the entire city. They also cycle through intersections. And so what would happen is there would have to be a traffic study for that intersection to see if it meets warrants because the the reality is if a signal is installed that does not meet warrants that would expose the city to liability because we're not following the industry standards and the the safety standards. Um if a signal does start to meet warrants, you know, usually if it meets one warrant, we start looking at more closely. I know MODOT has a policy to have to meet like several warrants and and that's generally how we we we take a similar approach to that. So there would be a study involved to see if it meets

warrants for a signal. Okay. And so then if if it does, does that affect the CIP at that point? If do do you have to shuffle things around sometimes? Sometimes we do. As an example, if you look in the FI26 CIP, we had two signal projects in there. Third in Bridalwood and then Chipman and Todd George. That's because those signals met warrants. Okay. Okay. They were not in the CIP and FY25. They were added and then um they they were completed this year. Okay. And so if revenues just back to sometimes shuffling things around, if revenues don't come in as projected, then certain things have to fall off or be moved to the next year. Is that

there's different strategies. We can either rep prioritize projects. We can spread project over multiple years. we we can extend just to get that um annual revenue. But that's that yeah, that's that's that chart showing how sometimes we shuffle things around to resequence. Okay. All right. That's all the questions I have. Did do you have one, Commissioner Yarrington?

Yes. I want to follow up with with some of your points. Um what would warrant a re-evaluation of a capital improvement project? like say you had multiple accidents that may come up, you know, to her point, may have a bus um or traffic um wrecks happen from time to time and it's it just happens more frequently, but that's after the capital improvement plan has already been established. So, what would trigger a new um evaluation with the traffic study to make that a priority over maybe something that maybe is not as high of a priority? that that that's something that we regularly evaluate, but to rep prioritize, you know, it can the the plan can be amended and so that would have to go back through the process. We'd have to get council approval to change budgets and things of that nature, but it can be done. Uh an example, several years ago, we had a a sinkhole, somebody's backyard, metal pipe failed, trees falling towards the house. We had to do emergency budget amendment. It was about a $600,000 budget amendment to to fix the pipe. Um but that that came out of the the city's reserve fund um in that case. Um so if there's a true emergency situation, yes, we can do that. Um a lot of times the traffic signals aren't really emergencies. I mean, yeah, the the accidents are not, you know, they're they, you know, they're not they're not good. Um but sometimes it's just, you know, we we have to work through that. you have to develop that warrant analysis

and that that warrant analysis that you put um is what is what would constitute a a enough warrants to put it up on a a priority list. That's somewhat subjective. Um when I say because um actually I don't know Susan if I could refer to you because this our our traffic engineer. She can she can describe all the warrants for you.

Susan Barry, city traffic engineer. Um, I think you're mostly interested in the crash warrant. Yeah, probably. Sure. So, the crash warrant is 12 correctable crashes within a 12-month period. That's not per year. That's in a 12-month period. And so, correctable is mostly right angle crashes or a left turner um turning in front of someone on Wood Chapel. Those are cor considered correctable. So every time we we we are well aware of when there's a crash, people always let us know and then, you know, we look into this, you know, the details of the crash and um a lot of times they're not considered correctable because a signal is not going to fix everything. It's going to increase the amount of rear end crashes you're going to have. Um but those those right angle crashes, those, you know, T-bones, those are the most serious. And so that's why that's kind of the guideline for five correctable within a 12-month period. Oh,

it's five correct. Five correctable in a 12-month period. Okay. I mean, there's still some engineering judgment in there as well. Sure. Okay. So, each warrant I every time there's is an incident, that's a warrant. No, the crash warrant is the five crashes. There's also a peak hour. So, either AM or PM peak, there's certain volumes that can be reached. There's a 4hour warrant. There's an 8 hour warrant. Those are all based on volumes. So, usually signals are warranted by volume. Okay. Okay.

So, are some warrants considered more severe than others? Like the crash warrants, are those more severe than than traffic like traffic flow warrants? No. Okay. Usually. Okay. All right. Thank you. Any other questions? I have one last one real quick. Um the public input, when you have public input, do you get a how much on average do you get an input or emails from the public asking for information

during the comment period? The most we received about four years ago was 12. Last year we had one and it wasn't related to the capital improvement plan. This year we received three that are actually related to the capital improvement plan.

Okay. So that that's why we encourage the service request calling, you know, if you have people approach you, call us because that because we we we can track that. I mean, when we get a service request, we record, you know, we have a record of all those phone calls. And that's why the the committee, public works committee had asked us, so let's see if we can open those year round. And so we're going to be working with creative services to create one where we kind of guide people into it because we don't want to get into like fiscal policy or just whatever you know policing, fire safety, you want to get we don't want to get into that in this. We want to focus on infrastructure on capital improvements and things like that. So if people have, you know, I say traffic concerns, uh storm water issues, um things of that nature, that that's that's what we try to guide people into in this. my my question was geared towards just like transparency from the city and and the communication how we interact with with the with the residents of Lee Summit. So that was just a food for thought for saying that we probably need some more

um uh PE I guess way to bring this out to the residents so they can see that they have a communication channel in which they can they can contact the city. So so thank you for that. Thank you. I like the idea of making it more of well making it known that they can comment or call year round because then it helps you keep track of it and the more you receive on an issue, right? That's more that counts probably more exposure. Yes, exactly. Sure. Thank you.

Is there anyone who wishes to speak in support or opposition of this application? Any additional questions from the commission? Hearing no further testimony, I will now close the public hearing and reopen the regular meeting. Is are there any is there any commission discussion on this application? I would just like to say thank you. That was I learn more every time about how how all this works. So, we appreciate that. And if they have no if we have no more questions or comments, I would entertain a motion. And this is a motion for approval, not a recommendation of approval.

Right. So the the first motion that you'll make is you'll make a motion to direct staff to present a resolution to approve the CIP and then the resolution will be a separate one that'll follow that up. Okay. So um All right. So we have to direct the staff to to do the resolution to present the resolution. Oh, they need to present that next. Well, not presentation as in like what George is so much as like we are to produce for you to the document by which you will take action on that. We'll approve the comp plan amendment and then it's magically already in your agenda. So, so then we'll just take the motion on that one.

So, we forgot to direct them, didn't we? What's that? We forgot to direct them before they presented. Oh, well, your motion right now, someone will make a motion right now to direct staff. Okay. To present it. And then that really leads into the second item on the agenda. Yeah.

All right. Would you like to do the motion? Sure, Commissioner, please. Um, I move to direct staff to present a resolution adopting the capital improvement plan 2027-2031 as an amendment to the city of Lee Summit's ignite comprehensive plan as amended and approving the location extent and charter of all public improvements described in the uh city of Lee Summit's capital improvement plan 2027 to 2031. Second. Can we get a roll call vote, please? Edward Yearington, yes. Payton Hatcher, yes. Dana Arth, yes.

Jessica Greno, yes. Tanya Janifford, yes. Randy Benbrook, yes. All right. So, staff is not going to give anything. We're just going to make the motion. Okay. All right. So, we need a motion for the actual re resolution. Commissioner Bimbrook, since it's your last week, would you like to do that? Yeah, I can do that. It's not in our paperwork though, is it? Recommendation.

If you do resolution, approve the resolution. It's It's the same. It's what's in item one. Just say approve the resolution because we're approving. Okay. Uh chair, I move to approve resolution adopting the capital improvement plan. Mhm. Uh 2027 to 2031 as an amendment to the city of Lee Summit ignite comprehensive plan as amended and approving the location extending character of all public improvements described in the city of Lee Summit capital improvement plan 2027 2031. Can I get a second?

Second. Can we get a roll call vote, please? Edward Yearington, yes. Payton Hatcher, yes. Dana Arth, yes. Jessica Greno, yes. Tanya Janifford, yes. Randy Benrook, yes.

All right. Thank you. I'll now close the regular meeting and open the public hearing in the matter of continued application PL 2025-338 and PL2025-339 preliminary development plan and special use permit for convolescent nursing or retirement home. Lee Summit Senior Community 5101 Northeast Lakewood Way Lee Summit Senior Living Community LLC applicant. Would all of those who plan to speak on behalf of this application please stand up at this time and be sworn in?

You promise to tell the truth, the whole truth, and the truth.

Thank you. Does the applicant have a presentation? So, my name is uh Eric Wallish. Uh E R I C uh Wallish W A L E SH 9100 West 158th Street uh Overland Park, Kansas. No disrespect, but I'm not putting a sport coat on. It's too humid. Um just a little review here. Uh we were last at planning commission on March 12th. Um and we were deferred to resolve some issues with some adjoining neighbors. Um so we're back here tonight having met. We did a Zoom call uh and I would say about seven homeowners were on the Zoom call and this was after we did the official neighborhood noticed meeting. Um, so, uh, as I mentioned earlier, we are doing a CCRC, a continuing care retirement community. So, independent living, assisted living, and memory care. So, I'm just going to do a quick review of the overall project to kind of refresh everyone's memory and then I'll talk about some of the accommodations we made with the neighbors and then Tim will go in into more detail on uh the actual plan modifications. So, this is the site. Uh you're looking at about 12 acres uh at the northeast corner of Lakewood Way and Bolan. The actual address is 5101 Northeast Lakewood Way. So, the project is approximately 172 units. Um, and that's about 104 units of independent living and then 48 units of

AL and 20 units of memory care. And then we have about 15 uh singlestory uh villas uh that but more of the northerly property again about 12 acres. The total project square footage about 170,000 and then the height and you measure to the midpoint is 39 ft to the midpoint. And then in Missouri, uh, for the memory care and the assisted living beds, you're required to get a certificate of need, a CO. We do have that. So, the need is definitely there. The independent living does not require a CO. Um, you know, the the benefits of our project obviously, uh, we provide care to seniors, but there are other ones that kind of spin off. I mean, obviously, there's no negative effect on the schools. There's only a positive effect really because often especially on the independent living side they volunteer in the school system. Very low traffic generator. Um and one that we're seeing more and more is it frees up housing for younger generations because a lot of the seniors and our average age is 79 80. I mean they're in their big houses. They are allowed to come to our community which frees up that housing stock for younger generations. And then of course it allows people in lease summit to age in place. So as I said we had a zoom call and I would say um there were three issues that arose. One is we initially and Tim will go on in plan and show you this but we had a generator on the northern side of the property. So we've relocated that away from the neighbors to the southern end. And then we had a dumpster enclosure closer to the northern boundary and there's only so much we can do because that needs to be near our commercial

kitchen. So we moved that closer to our building and then we provided more landscaping around it. And then Tim will go into greater detail, but we also uh increase the landscape buffer between us and the northern boundary. So, with that, I'm going to uh introduce Tim Wilson with SWD Architects to give you a little bit more detail. Tim Wilson, SWD Architects, 315 Nicholls Road, Sweet 228, Kansas City, Missouri, 64112. Um, I'm going to back up here a little bit and kind of go back through. So this this was our plan that we had initially back at our uh March 12th meeting and the main points of discussion were this was where our backup generator was located at that time and this is where our dumpsters were located at that time and then also concern about the amount of uh buffering landscaping along this property line here. So those those were the three items that Eric mentioned that we've worked with trying to improve those conditions. And then as Eric mentioned, we had a Zoom call again with the neighbors on um the 30th and went over what we were proposing to do with those three items. And so what we've done is the generator is now at this location. So formerly back here, actually a little closer. We've actually rerouted this drive a little bit here to increase our green space between the number or between the neighbors in our drive back there. And we took the dumpsters which

were about right here. We have pulled those down uh further to the south. um pulled them away uh from the neighbors on that side. And then also, I'll get to the landscaping plan here. We've added additional landscaping around that dumpster location to help uh conceal that location and minimize the view from the neighbors at that point. For the buffering here, being able to pull this road away, we were able to increase this area here, the green space here. um we added additional evergreen trees along this buffer here. We're at um 150% of the requirement for the buffer. So that resulted in adding um 16 additional trees along here, evergreen trees. And the size of those trees um will be 8 to 10 ft when they go in is what they're specified as. And we will still have a little bit of area of fencing where we're not able to do the BMS, but we've also tried to minimize where we have fence on fence for the screening between the neighbors. And that was the major changes um as far as the concerns with the neighbors. We also did pull this drive in as I talked about and we rerouted this drive around here. And in the process of doing that, we um eliminated this carport here too. So there's no longer a carport in that area. And we stretched out this end of the building a little bit. We did have it looping back here and it was putting more of an exposure on the residence at that point. So we've tried to minimize that view of the building back there as well. And those were the changes from when we were here previously.

Okay. Thank you. Do we have a staff presentation? Good evening. Hector Sodto Jr. senior planner. Um at the last public hearing I had entered into the record exhibit A list of exhibits 1 through 19. Uh with this meeting, I am a amending that and I am adding items 20 through 23 which consist of a staff memo that's in the packet. Um the revised preliminary development plan in the packet, the neighborhood meeting notes also in the packet and protest petitions that were received um April 17th and 21st also in the packet respectively. So,

please enter exhibits 1 20 or I'm sorry, A1 9 20 through 23 into the record. That is too low. Okay. So, I will be reiterating some of the information that's been previously mentioned by the applicant. Uh we'll maybe go into a little bit more detail on some things. Um but as the applicant had mentioned, we were here about a little bit more than a month ago, a month and a half ago. Um and they were residents expressed some concerns about the layout, particularly as was pointed out regarding the generator locations and trash enclosure locations. At that time, the applicant had indicated they were amendable to reviewing the site plan to see what opportunities there might be to address some of those concerns and provide a little more separation between those problem areas in the view of the of the residents um and see what can be done to change that. So, I'll just kind of highlight and maybe look a little bit closer at some of the changes that were made. So, the first one had to do with the trash dumpers, which the applicant had mentioned. Um the original plan had them at about 67 feet or so at their closest point to the um adjacent subdivision to the north and with the revision they were able to increase that gain about another 50t 46 feet or so separation. Um, again, they're somewhat constricted as the applicant stated in that there has to be proximity to the the kitchen facilities in in the building, but they were able to gain almost 50 ft of additional separation. The generary location is the one that was most significantly different from the plan. The previous one was at around

60, a little bit more than 60 feet away from the adjacent residences. Here, they were able to move them about 600 feet away. moved them all the way over to the Lakewood Way street frontage and to allay any concerns about the visibility of those here. There is kind of a little bit screenshot here that they will be surrounded on three sides by enclosure walls and they will be uh landscaped. So they'll be hidden from view. The opening is angled away from the street. But to soften the view of of that enclosure, there will also be a significant amount of landscaping placed around them. Uh, one item that wasn't mentioned um was that um one of the areas of concern was there was some concern about the height with the independent living wing being about three stories and there was some concerns about the the perception of loss of privacy from some of those units that might be overlooking the subdivision to the north. So, one of the changes that was made and you can see here on the image on the lower left, uh the some of the end units, there were some units facing or with balcony views toward the subdivision to the to the north. And the change a change that was made was they narrowed down that end and removed those um I guess this little wing that shoots off of there. Um, all that remains are three sets of windows and one man door. And in looking at the floor plan, the area where these windows are located, they are at the end of hallways and slash stairwells. So there will be no units on that third story end that will be overlooking toward toward the residential subdivision. And then uh finally, the applicant had touched on this uh with the relocation of the transformers and generators and trash enclosures, they were able to kind of reconfigure some of the the driveway

and parking areas there that were closest to the the Ridgewood Hill subdivision. And in doing so, they were able to kind of tilt down or angle the the drive um away from them and were able to gain an additional 30 feet of separation u from some of those parking areas to those residences to to the north. Um so that is a summary of of the changes that were made. Um as the applicant mentioned, there was a a second neighborhood meeting held on March 30th. um since that date. So since the last public hearing, we did receive protest petitions. U so far we've received them representing 13 properties. This image here on the on the right highlights in red um or more I guess be more of a rouge color that um highlights the location of those 13 properties. Um, this cobalt color that rings the pond property is a representation of a 185 ft buffer around it. So, um, with the protest petitions that have been submitted, the the goal of a petitioner is to try to trigger a minimum six vote approval at the city council level versus just a simple majority of five votes. And so this is for edification of new members um reminding our some of our longer tenure members and also for the edification of some of our residents here that um between now and city council u which additional protest petitions can be filed right up to um right up to the day. We prefer a couple days ahead of time so we can work through some of these calculations. that within this 185 ft buffer, if the city receives protest petitions representing a minimum of 30 ft 30% of this cobalt area exclusive of rideway. So it'll be um let

me if I get the the laser pointer. So this is private property. So the portion that lies within 185 ft of this property, the properties on the south of Bolan, the county property, everything that lies in the north subdivision to the north, we will calculate what the gross square footage is of those privately owned and county-owned properties. Take that gross square footage and then compare that to the protest petitions that have been submitted and those portions of property that lie within 185 ft. if they constitute at least 30% then that at the city council level will trigger six votes. Um so the calculation hasn't been done yet. We may there may be more protest petitions that come in. Um this protest petition that's been filed so far has no bearing on any action you'll take tonight. So this is moreformational for you and some of the residents. So with that u staff's recommendations for approval. Uh there really two components when you get to the ordinance that'll go in front of city council. The ordinances will be broken up into two pieces. There'll be the preliminary development plan which has two conditions here. Um and condition number two staff updated to um reference the the newer version of the plans and then the second component that city council will take action on will be the special use permit uh with the length being uh 40 40 years is a recommended and requested time period. So, with that, I'll yield to any questions you may have.

Thank you, Hector.

Do we have any questions for the staff or applicant? I'll start with Commissioner Yarington. Um, I guess the only question I would have is that um the applicant um satisfied the concerns with where the um generators were going as well as the trash and moved some car ports out of that way. So they they addressed the concerns from the presentation that they had in March. Is that correct? the the applicant made changes according to um what their understanding was of the areas of concerns from the residents. I can't speak to necessarily say that all of the residents may feel that it might be enough, but they've made significant changes in response to those concerns that were raised at that time.

That's good. So, I was responsible for them to to do that. Mhm. See um decibb do does do we know the decibb of the generators that the noise level that this is caused for concern or no? Um the generators that that we are looking at here would be two 600 kW generators and generally they are running about 75 dB when they cycle them and that's within 75 ft of the generator itself. Okay. 600 ft away. Sure. From the neighbors.

Yeah. So I'm just trying to gauge what Okay. Yeah. So it buffers it out. The further you get out the the less a problem. problematic it would be. Okay, that's all I have question I have. Thanks. Thank you, Commissioner Patrick.

Um, you mentioned the uh protest process. Thank you for the information there. Um, if this use was permitted by right or conditionally permitted, what ability to protest would there be or what would that process look like as far as um how they would get approved? Um so the way our ordinance is written applicants can submit protest petitions on any resoning and any preliminary development plan. Um so in this case we don't have a reasonzoning but we do have a preliminary development plan and as well as a special use permit. Um so the the process would be um in order to try to trigger that six vote minimum, we do have to receive written requests or written protest petitions from those residences residents. Um we do we go through the process of evaluating to make sure that the signatures of property ownership match what the county records show. At that point once we confirm whether they do or don't then we're able to determine based on these calculations um if they if they establish that 30 foot that 30% threshold.

So the process would be the same um if it was a use that was permitted by right. Oh correct. Yes. Yes. And on one of those uh red green specific to this one, was the sound fence removed there in favor of the land additional landscaping buffer? I know you were highlighting the dumpster there. It just it caught my eye that uh 6 foot vinyl sound fence. It was removed. That sorry, may be for applicant. Yes. When we relocated the generator, we eliminated that sound fence at that point.

Okay. But additional landscaping was then added. Right. We do have additional landscaping in that in that area. Yes.

Thank you. And additionally for the applicant, sorry. Um when the uh northeastern wing was revised there, did that reduce your unit count in total? No, we were able to maintain the same unit count. And also one of the benefits of being able to modify that wing was it it gave us the green space to allow us to move the dumpsters down there and still have a nice green space for the residents as well. Got it. Thank you.

That's it for me. I just have a followup question to the regarding the petition the the 185 ft. You had a diagram of that. Um, so what you're saying is all of that blue area, it that's that's the area where the petitions should come from. And if someone owns land here, a piece of it, if if they're going to get they're going to get more, their their petition is going to be weighted more because it's based on um it's not going to be weighted more. But I guess my question is if you had just five houses here and then that took up a small percentage but you had that land owned by other owners and they didn't sign a petition what those five houses did really wouldn't matter. Is that it's it's based upon how much how much total we have to get to the 30% and

Right. So, so hypothetically you could have like in a case like this, um, the biggest immediate land owner is going to be Jackson County, but let's say that was privately owned. So, let's say all of these to the north, let's say everyone was agreeable, but the only protesting party was a particularly large property owner. Um, it's not based on the number of properties that we receive the notice from. It's it's always based on what square footage that represents relative to the buffer as a whole. So in some cases, you might have one property owner that alone might trigger 30%. In others, like here, you might have 13 folks, but just cumulatively, they just don't have enough real estate within that buffer to to trigger the 30%.

Okay, that's that's what I was wondering. Thank you, Commissioner Gro. A quick question. your very last slide that was talking about the special use permit. This one so granted for a period of is it 40 years or 20 years that we're looking for. Sorry, that should be okay. That should be 40. I was just double checking. Yes. Happens to me all the time. You're not alone.

Um and then I think my next couple of questions are all for the applicant. Um so my first question is um just getting some clarity around so for the actual assisted living component you have to have a certificate of certificate of um need. Thank you. But you don't necessarily need or have that for the independent living. So how are you guys determining that there is a need for this type of residence within this area? How did you guys approach that? So there's a there's a number of ways of doing it, but what most people do is you look at a certain radius around the property and you look for two demographics. One is what are called adult children and that doesn't just mean immature adults. So so 50 years or older. Uh for example, I'm 60. So making decisions for the actual resident. So you look for a certain density of adult children that have a certain demographic and then you look for those a certain level of those 75 and older and where those overlap that's kind of considered the hot area. So we've done that and we have I think we have 14 operating communities now. So this pops up and we own the Princeton uh down the road. So we're very familiar with this market.

Great. Is that it? Okay. Um, thank you for that. And then if I remember right, there was a resident or a couple of residents that were very um concerned about having trees or having landscaping in their backyard. Um, am I am I remembering this correctly? Blocking view to the Yes. Blocking their view to the water. So So did that get addressed or Yes. We're not going to put landscaping uh on that area so they can continue to have the views to the lake. Great. So, even with the addition that was added in, that area is still going to stay the way it was. That's a win-win. Saves us money and keeps their view.

Great. Um I think that's it for now. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner Jana Ford.

Thank you, Chair. Um this would be for Mr. Mr. Wilson or Mr. Walsh, whoever. I mean, maybe both. Tag team the question. Um, so since this is a senior community, safety is always a priority. Making sure at night time, you know, we all like to take walks regardless of time of day. What is the lighting like? And what I'm going to ask is, are we are we sure that with the lighting throughout the entire site that there's no light spillage into the neighborhood behind? Yes, we are sure. We submitted a phototric plan with our actual submitt. Um I don't know if you have that available.

Pull it up. Yeah, we've been very conscious of not spilling the light into the neighbors areas and we're comfortable with the safety factor. It would be similar to what what you would see at the Princeton. Okay. Right now. Yep. Yeah. It's a high priority for the owner and the operator to maintain safety around the project and then

should be the last sheet I believe. Hector so um I'll speak to what our ordinance requires. So our ordinance where you have well you have residential against a type of residential but um there should be under ordinance you cannot have more than 0.5 foot candles at that border between the adjoining properties. So here you can see they got the spot um foot candle measurements indicating that when you get to the property line they're at 0.01 if not 000 um throughout. So they they the lighting that they're proposing is all falls within compliance of allowable light levels at the property line.

Okay. Thank you. That's all I needed. Thank you, Commissioner Chisinski. No additional questions. Thank you, Ben Brook. Yes. Thank you, Chair. Uh, Hector, while we're on the while you're up here, uh, moving the generator enclosure or the generators, and we'll get to that, down by the road. Does that cause a necessity of screening from the from the street? Um, yes. Our ordinance does require for mechanical equipment, ground mounted and roof mounted, um, to to have a a solid screen. So, it's not visible from off the site. So,

Okay. Solid screen. Are we uh are we considering the enclosure of the generator the screen or will it be enclosed or screened by a masonry wall? Um it doesn't have to under ordinance. It doesn't have to be a four-walled and roofed structure. So it doesn't have to be like indoor. It just has to be screened from view from off the property. So right. Do we have that in the plans? I didn't see it. Yeah. Yes.

Maybe I just overlooked it. And they've got some details. Let's see. No, my PowerPoint had it. Yeah, it got to be difficult. It's my last meeting. So that's the trash enclosure. So yeah, there you go. Okay. Yeah. Are those six foot, 8 foot, 10 foot? What are we What are we looking at here? Um, if you go to our detail, if you can go back to our to yours.

Yeah, it's we've got it noted to um match the height of the generator and it's going to depend on the height of the tank uh for the fuel underneath it. So, we've got noted that we'll match the height of the generator. Okay. And are we calling masonry walls? We've got a combination of the masonry and the siding. So actually this is this is the the one at the bottom in the bottom right there. That's the one at the Princeton. So we're proposing a similar detail like that and we actually have that drawn on our submission drawings right now. Okay. And then while you're at the mic, um I noticed you went from one generator to two generators in this application.

Uh is it are you dividing the load between the two generators or are you running an N plus1 configuration? Uh I'm not an engineer. An N plus one would be two because so an N plus one is we can get them quicker than the one larger one. If we go with a th00and KW unit, we've had up to a year weight to get that. So when we can split to two 600s, that's more of a unit we can buy off the shelf. Okay. So both generators are required to handle the whole load of the site. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Okay. Um thank you. That was what I have for the application. Hector, I got one more question about the protest. Is the causation of the protest form uh applicable to this public hearing? The causation. Can you elaborate on what you mean by that? Uh, sure. Uh, I'm assuming when they file a protest that there's usually a cause that they list of why they're protesting. Is that cause applicable to what we're discussing today?

Um, I mean, certainly yes. I mean the the concerns that were raised are some of it loss of privacy which one can argue maybe falls into compatibility but some of it is also some of the points that were raised were were traffic concerns in the area um property values. So those were generally the the biggest two with traffic and property values and just compatibility. So there were some about the loss of views and wildlife habitat as well. So, so to sum it all up, it was the official protest that was filed is um congruent or encompassing of the initial concerns voiced by the neighbors. Correct. Yes. That we heard last hearing. Correct. Okay. No additional.

No. Okay. No. Thank you. Thank you, Actor. Thank you, chair. Thank you. Is there anyone who wishes to speak in support or opposition of this application? And if so, if you haven't been sworn in, we need to do that at this time. So, okay. So, we have I have I have two people that filled out forms. I have Bill Essed. Are you Are you Bill? Okay. You can come to the microphone. You can pick whichever one you want and state your name and address for the record and we will set the timer for three minutes.

Uh my name is Bill Leadeds live at 1063 Northeast Scenic Place Lee Summit. Um can somebody flip back some slides? Did you want the entire property?

There you go.

All right. I had a question back in December. This question wasn't raised at at any of the last meetings. Uh really didn't get a real good answer back in December. Why couldn't these two buildings be flip-flopped to the top of the subdivision? Okay, there's already a what 18 to 20ft drop from the back side of the houses up on the upper side where the grocery store was supposed to go years ago. with that drop off there. If you put a three-story building up along here that drops it down, that actually sets lower than the houses that are sitting up behind it. Okay, you got your three-story building, your two-story building. You're going downhill with the whole thing. And then at the bottom portion down here where the buildings are, uh, the villas could have been incorporated. I don't know how big this pad site is up here that's dug out flat, but it's huge. Absolutely huge. Just curious why that was really wasn't ever given any more thought than what I brought it up the first time. Every project that uh y'all have built in Kansas City has the tall buildings by the road.

Excuse me, Mr. Eats. Will you make sure you're addressing the planning commission? Oh, I'm sorry. That's okay.

Every every building that uh they've built uh in Kansas City has a tall building by the road, the shorter buildings going away from it. That's the same way up north, same way with uh here in Le Summit, same way in South Kansas City. And that would make total sense with this also. I do have a thing for the planning commission going forward whether this gets approved or not. But in a subdivision full of houses, I cannot build my house 20T off my back fence line. Okay. Can't do it. Can't have 70 foot in front, 20 foot behind me. It's pretty all houses are pretty much centered. Correct. Why can't that be the standard for commercial development away from uh normal houses? So you have a 60 ft backyard, a 60 ft buffer zone in between that and commercial. it.

Thank you.

Connie Eids Connie Eids 1063 Northeast Scenic Place Summit, Missouri. Um I'm the house that backs up where they didn't put the bushes, so I appreciate that. Um, one thing I don't understand about the, uh, petitions, um, it's a little clear, but I don't really understand where he showed that buffer that goes around that'sund 185 ft. Um, that would mean that we would have to get Gas Smart, the fire department, and Jackson County Parks and Recreation to come in on this project. Is that correct? Yeah. So the little bit of the votes that we have which actually back up to the subdivision I mean to the project don't really count right.

We let us answer we'll answer the questions afterward because we're supposed to just let you okay have the floor.

Yeah. So, I mean, on that voting thing, if if we if I need to go or the petition to go further, I mean, I would try to canvas the other locations, but being that they're businesses, I wouldn't know how to contact Jackson County Parks and Recck. Um, the other question I had is we they've been talking about the buffer being moved or the the road being moved back, but they never said the square footage that it was moved distance from the houses. original uh they talked about 22 feet or 40 ft and I just have never heard the final square footage today like how far back are the buffers from the house. Um and I just wanted to see I didn't see in the plans if there was going to be trees uh planted on the back side of the three-story building which backs up basically to the neighborhood as well. And I think that's all I have. Thanks.

Thank you. Do we have any more public comments? Come on up and state your name and address for the record. And you can pick either one. I fell asleep while I was in there. Don't fall.

Don't fall over. Hi, my name is Jessica Kors. I live at 5205 Northeast Holiday Drive. Um, so mine is one of the properties that's um against the kind of that back corner of the drive. Um, I do appreciate the uh adjustments that were made. So, those do help. Um, however, there it is still very close to our back property line in in several areas. So, there is a number of neighbors that are concerned. Um, not all of them have gotten their petitions in quite yet, but um, but there is concern from the neighborhood for the proximity closeness. Um, and as Bill kind of said, like we're not allowed to replace or build a deck this close to a property line as close as this drive is. So, I don't know if the rules are and code is different for commercial construction than it is for residential, but um that might be something just as the planning commission to consider. Um I believe it's 30 ft for residential. So um anyway, the the three-story um building is still a concern and as well as just the closest. So just continuing to make our voice heard from the neighbors. So I appreciate your time.

Thank you. Any more comments from the public? Okay. Do we have any additional questions from the commission? Anything that you want to ask the applicant or staff regarding the comments from public? I think one of us needs to address it, right? All right. I'm starting with you. Sure, why not? Um, okay. Uh, applicant, uh, let's talk about the three-story building. That was a a concern. So, if it's my understanding, the three-story building is the one closest to the small or the pond, right? Is that correct?

Correct. Okay. And the three-story building went there because that is the lowest and some of the most steep grading. Is that correct? Correct. We are using that building to help retain grade. Mhm. And uh correct me if I'm wrong, but I think last time you were here, you stated that that building was actually being used as a kind of a a system to tear the lot to make the two-story building next to it able to be built. Is that correct?

Right. It by using the by using the three-story building. So what's happening is is this building on this side is two stories at this point and we're using the foundation wall under that twotory to catch this grade here and keep this level. So we have a nice level drive coming in there at that point. Okay. So then from this point down to this point as you're following this elevation, this side of the building becomes three stories and it wraps around and it's three stories on the back side here. Okay.

So this courtyard level back here is actually lower than the main entry point at this point. So uh maybe you can identify for us the general slope direction of this property. So, we are sloping. This is your high point and everything's sloping down to the lake. Okay. So, what would the complication be if you were to take that the threetory long building and push it up to the road? What would the complications be? Well, the complication would be the owner is trying to maximize as many units as he can with a lake view.

Okay. Does it um limit your access to the site as far as your access drives?

Yeah. Well, you can see the size of this building to try to fit this up in here. Um, it it's not going to work. We we've looked at multiple site layouts on this from the beginning and to be able to have the adjacencies within the buildings and to have the shared kitchen between the assisted living and the independent living and to have one point of entrance. it. This is where it needs to be. And it also gives the best visibility for the entrance and marketability for the property facing the road like that. And we felt that this was a better use up here for the villas because we're putting as many of the lower roof singlestory buildings adjacent to the neighbors. So if you were to reconfigure it as was stated by one of the questions and push the big buildings up toward the road, it would actually the the configuration would actually push them closer to the homes I would say to the north point of the lot instead of being close to the ones toward the south point of the lot. Is that kind of an accurate statement?

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Because so we're not really improving. We're just shifting which neighbors have the taller building next to them. Right. And you're which means we'd have a different group of neighbors here making um a statement. Correct. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You're going to overload this corner here. And we've actually got about 40 ft of fall across here of what we're trying to I've driven by this site. There is a lot of fall. I do agree.

Okay. And then um as far as while you're up there, I think another question was um the linear foot movement of the road that you adjusted or the drive lane from those properties. Uh can you tell us what the original distance to the property line was and what the the new distance is? Do you have that?

Not off the top of my head. No. This is this is Matt Cy, my civil engineer. He might be able to give you a better idea. uh Matthew Kitty um with engineering surveys and services offices at 1113 Faith Street in uh Columbia. Um yeah, to the drive lane. I mean there was roughly about 30 foot off the property line and it's been shifted. It's 50 60 70 ft now as it's as it's rotated over. So quite a bit of additional uh gap is set uh at the corner of the memory care building kind of northeast corner. It does stay at about the same location. Um also stress the building location. Um it would be closer to the neighbors to the north if we were to go that direction. It also be 40 foot above their lots as well. Um the position it's got now it's much less because it's steered into the grade much less of a grade change to the neighboring uh homes. You know looking more in the 20 ft range. So not only would it be a different group but they would be more impacted as well. I think overall this is the best impact for the neighbors um in this in this location. It's not just a marketability. I mean there are functional reasons why accessibility taring along that grade. several other things that come into play.

So, you're saying that by keeping the building there, it's um the the skyline is actually lower than it would be if we shifted it closer to the road. Yeah, significantly lower. Okay. And then uh can you just um go back to the landscape plan because I believe we had a question regarding with the road shifting, was more landscape added to that back area and I I believe I saw more landscaping, but there we go.

Yes. Yeah. I'll let you address that one. Okay. Yeah, I believe um the the resident's question was on this end of the building here if we added additional on the threetory and we've not at that point um because we're just so tight to the road right there. But you added some at the trash enclosure. Is that correct? Correct. Yeah, this all around the trash enclosure. I don't know if I can And you have two It looks like you have two rows on the other side of the parking. You have at the property line and then at the at the parking is right. This is the buffer area. And then we've also got the trees again AC next to the parking in that area as well.

And I I know one of our commissioners not here. Are the is the trees are they a good mix between conifers and deciduous? Yes, they are. Yes, they are. I just I had to throw that in there. It's my last night. I get to be snarky all I want. So, okay. Thank you. That's all I had. Chair. All right. Madam Chairman Tazinski, uh Mr. Krypi, um would you come? Uh, a picture is worth a thousand words and within your plan set you do have a cross-section of the site. Could you please bring that up? I don't know if if you have access to it or if Hector does. Oh, there it is.

So, this is this is another view of of what we were just talking about in words. So, if you want to explain this, this may help the gentleman understand the differences in in those elevations. Um,

so two cross-sections. So, this it's this line right here. So the top elevation you're seeing, cross-section you're seeing is along this line. So here is the home on this lot right here. And so you can see from a from a skyline perspective that the tearing and using the topography along this property, the roof line stayed relatively even the entire grade across. And the topography is used to to lower that grade down. Uh so you can see that, you know, here's the three-story section how it's really set into the into the grade and into the hillside. Um the second crosssection was brought through from the culdesac through the three-story building all the way out the Lakewood way. So you can see it does, you know, this building does sit lower. The culde-sac sits a little lower than our lot, but there's that, you know, it's a full three-story building there, but you know, relatively even grade. And also note that dash line, that's existing grade on the property. That's existing grade on the property. So again, you're working with the topography that's there. There's not significant grade changes that are occurring along the way to to make that happen. We're trying to work with that grade. Sure.

Perfect. Thank you.

Um, Hector, there was some questions about setbacks and and uh within residential properties, within commercial properties. I don't know if you have a a slide or a better plan view that you could bring up that shows a setback, but within residential setbacks, there's probably a there's a setback from the city street to the front of the house or or at least I know there's at least a setback for utilities along the front of the house. same on both sides and in the rear. Um, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think the front setback is that you can do it, but on the sideyard setbacks, if a property owner wants to build in there, uh, with landscaping, fences, whatever, that's at their cost if a utility has to come in. And I think that's why a lot of people don't want to build in those easements is because ultimately they could have a cost that's going to incurred to them if something has to come and be done by either utility company or the city. Right.

Correct.

So on on commercial properties they have setbacks as well. Um but what is the setback that they can actually put infrastructure into? Like what is what is that part? So in so in this specific case we have R1 which is more standard residential subdivision zoning for Ridgewood Hills. That property zone R1 uh the minimum rear yard setback is is 30 ft. Um so for our in this property here that we're dealing with um the subject site is own CP2. All of our well our CP2 and industrial sites have similar setback requirements to each other which are lessened for residential. So these properties have to maintain a minimum 20 foot separation from the rear property line. um in in all of the cases when you take measurements from each of the buildings. Um and I did it on this really quickly while I was sitting there on the on the landscape plan and took some measurements. So with the revised layout at its closest point, the three-story building is going to be 140 ft away from the rear property line of or the shared property line with Ridgewood Hills. Then as you make your way toward the northwest, uh this is the memory care facility. Uh at its closest point, it's going to be about 61 12 ft from that property line. You know, again, both of those well in excess of the minimum 20 foot setback. Uh when you get to the villas, the

closest point is going to be kind of in that 32 30 foot range. Again, greater than the than the 20 foot setback required. in fact are more than this one would be comparable to what the R1 subdivision setback would be. So they exceed all of those. Um the closest parking areas, the one just off of the villas is going to be at around 37 ft we'll say give or take. U this one drive here at its closest point is going to be 22 feet. The minimum setback for parking lots from or parking areas or associated drives from residential is is 20 feet. Um you know we already talked about how this one had re got shifted some to gain to closer to be 60 ft. So so they are compliant buildings parking setback all of it's compliant with the UDO requirements.

Thank you. Okay, I have a question. Um, is is Mr. Deberg here tonight? Okay, I this is just a letter he wrote to us and I wanted to read a bit from it and then I have some questions. Um, this letter was addressed to the city of Lee Summit Department of Planning and Development and it was in our packet. We currently own and operate the Princeton, a senior living community in Lee Summit that was granted a 40-year SUP and is located approximately 9 miles from the proposed site, which has been successfully operating for 4 years. This nearby community demonstrates our commitment to the local market and our ability to maintain high operational and management standards over time. And I I read this because something came to my attention. Um, in full transparency, my mother is a resident at the Princeton and I have several clients at the Princeton. I'm a CPA and so I've gotten to know several people there and I'm not sure that you guys are aware of this. You're probably not, but there has been um, units without hot water and it has gone on for a long period of time. Um, I did contact the city at one point about it and I I didn't follow up as to what the codes enforcement did about it, but I think it's still ongoing. And I encouraged my mom to encourage people to show up at the hearing to speak about it. But as people get older, they get nervous about they they get very nervous about speaking out because they feel pretty vulnerable. But I wanted to make you guys aware and let you address how this can get resolved, how we can get to the bottom of it and find out what's going on, if it's been fixed, and if it will be fixed quickly because I'm sure if you haven't heard it, you're not real happy about it.

So, we obviously take that very uh seriously. Um, personally, I was not aware of it, but Tim, you're the regional operations person, so he can comment on it.

Okay. Hi, Tim Moore. Uh, 17399 South 1900 Road, Nevada, Missouri, 64772. Uh, I am the regional director of operations for Aeros Senior Living. I cover the entire Kansas City market. Um, we did have hot water issues when the building was initially built. um those were fixed for a period of time and just recently within the last actually two weeks ago it came to my attention um that we were starting to to have hot water issues again. Um as we dug into it a little bit deeper and got started asking questions as you mentioned oftent times the senior population doesn't want to raise a red flag. They don't want to they don't bring it up. They may talk in their groups but they don't necessarily bring it up to us. Um so once we found that we did engage with our our plumber. He came in to find that um we use on demand very large on demand hot water tanks. Um and they had sediment that had built up in those. Um we do also use uh water softeners to try and limit that. Um but there was sediment that had built up in those. So we did have um I believe it was last Monday night I think. Uh they came in late in the evening, turned the water off, cleared all the lines, reset the mixing valves. So there were some mixing valve issues within those hot water tanks that I mentioned, um got those fixed, and essentially we've now um circled back to each one of the residents that had brought those issues to us as early as this or as as recently as this afternoon. Um I reached out to the community. They've connected with each one of those residents that had brought issues as well as kind of pulled some of the others and they all have mentioned that the that the hot water pressure as well as temperatures have been satisfactory since uh Tuesday afternoon. So,

okay, thank you for that. Absolutely.

Is there um a way I I'm very concerned the geriatric the business of geriatrics I'll just say is a big business. We've got a lot of aging population. Um, and I personally, it's it's an area that concerns me deeply. I feel and and this is the in the IEL area. It that that was my understanding was all I so they're they're considered residents that don't need have they they live independently. Um, is there a way that that can be improved as far as who they call off hours and like a hotline type of thing? Would you guys consider upping those services to a level where somebody can always be accessed or so that if they're and and maybe a way that the residents can call without feeling like there's going to be retribution, which I don't feel there is, but I know people when they feel vulnerable. Um, is there something you would consider in your operational plan to make it easier for those communications to happen in case the director at the community doesn't take care of it in a timely manner? just a way to improve the quality of life because like you said, this is a community where we age in place and a community for all ages and I know we have a definite need for this but I definitely want to see quality high high quality on this and I know I think based on what you guys have presented tonight being good neighbors I'm sure that that's in your mind too. So

yeah, absolutely. Um and I'll speak to that. I mean, one of our core values with Arrow is transparency builds trust. And so, we always want to make sure that our residents feel comfortable coming to the community level first. I mean, we try and uh work through the hierarchy there. So, we want them to go to the community level staff, whether that's a server, a cook, a director, the executive director in the community. Um, but we also provide, so at each community, my number as far as the Kansas City market um is provided. I typically have business cards there at the front. They can reach out to me. um I office uh we have a regional office in Nevada, Missouri, so I office out of there. Um but they're also welcome to call our home office and they often do. In fact, this particular issue, that's how it became aware to me. I had a family member of a resident that was independent living was actually visiting her mother. Um she was in town from Arizona. I know you're talking about Okay. Yeah. I'd spoken with to her before about some other issues about a year ago. Um and so she reached out to me. Um we did have a a transition of executive director. So we were in the process of of communicating out um the new executive director and some things like that. So there were some areas of communication could have been a little bit better. Um but yeah again we have an open door policy for our executive directors regional staff home office. We want the residents to bring those to us. Um oftent times uh residents will they know that in this particular instance um O'Reilly Development is part of the building and they'll call O'Reilly Development directly in the Springfield market. So I mean there are multiple modalities for them to be able to get a hold of us. Um and then we also have um an internal app that we've created called the Arrow app um that the residents have access to for those that are technology savvy that can can reach out to that or family members for that matter.

Okay. Um, would you consider doing any rent abatement for the tenants that didn't have hot water? We we have and we do. I mean, anytime we have issues like that, I mean, we we give our um executive directors the ability to do customer service credits if needed. Um, and so I know they've they've worked through some of those um whether it was the hot water issue or other issues that we've had in in all of our communities. Okay. Thank you very much.

Absolutely. Any other questions from the commission? Okay. Did you care to did the applicant care to respond to anything else that was asked or said in the hearing? No. I I again this is the first time hearing this. Uh Arrow manages all of our properties and they are class A operation. Um, so, um, I think he described the process and how it's being fixed and I appreciate you bringing that up, but I have no further comments. Okay. Thank you.

All right. Hearing no further testimony, I will close the public hearing and reopen the regular meeting. Is there any commission discussion on this application? Commissioner Ben Brookke.

Yeah, thank you, Chair. I appreciate the fact that a lot of the concerns were addressed to the best the ability of the owner. Um, I'm glad that they were able to um get the generator absolutely as far as they possibly can because I think the noise of that was probably the the largest concern. Um, getting the trash moved and even the the drive lane shows that they're they're trying to be good neighbors. Um, I think the layout is about as best as it can be on this lot. This is a difficult lot to build on. Um, and to be honest, if there was a grocery store on there, you'd be really unhappy cuz there'd be semi-truckss going along your property line at 4:00 a.m. They're dropping off milk and eggs, and you'd have trash compactors running all night long with night crew filling. Trust me, I ran grocery stores. I know exactly how they do it. So, um, I'm I'm happy and pleased to see the the changes and, uh, I think this is a great project. I think it's going to be a definite positive addition to Lee Summit. Thank you. Commissioner Oh, Commissioner Jana Ford,

I'll just echo. I deeply value the respect given on both sides and being open to communication. I think that's been very valuable and something that we want to keep valuing with other and future developments. Thank you, Commissioner Gro.

Um, I do want to thank the residents for coming, sharing your voice. We hear you. We appreciate it. Um, we we respect it. Have a lot of empathy towards it. Um, and then huge kudos to the applicant for the time, the energy, um, that it took to do this, to put it together, to come back. I I do think that the changes that were made were very positive. So, it is um, refreshing and, uh, encouraging to see that when we talk about things at our commission um, that we are adding value and contributing and collaborating. So, thanks,

Commissioner Hatcher. Thank you. Um, just to piggyback on that, um, thank you to the neighbors for making yourselves known. I did read every single protest petition. I was not, uh, a member of the commission at the time of the first meeting, but I did watch all four hours and 40 minutes of of that meeting uh, in preparation for this. So, uh, including the dome discussion, I also got to to wait through that. So, um, appreciate you making it known and and, um, I I genuinely feel like this use, uh, is probably about the best that you could get or ask for for something going in there, which will happen at some point. to Commissioner Ben Brook's um points there. As far as a grocery store that was specifically mentioned, everything's going to have its own pros and cons, but I think uh on the whole um this would be a really good um project for the city as a whole and uh on a micro perspective, one of the least impactful um that that could be built there. And I would also just add the convolescent nursing or retirement home category in the UDO requires a special use permit in every single zoning category that we have. So the fact that we're asking for one here or the applicant is I don't think necessarily indicates a lack of compatibility per the zoning code um as it would require a special use permit anywhere that it went. And I I do think it fits uh the step down intent. um as far as the CP2 and thank you to the applicant for also listening and and the changes um at cost uh as well as I think going above and beyond on some of those changes and and listening to the neighbors as well. So hopefully that also speaks to you know their long-term um aspect as well and and issues the uh chair brought up um as

well and and wanting to rectify things and and um do what's right generally. Thank you, Commissioner Yurrington. Yes, I I have nothing to add. I just just want to say I concur with all the the commissioners up here on here and I really value that you the any developer or applicant listens listens wholeheartedly to the residents and we move forward as a community together. Um without you listening really really doesn't make a good partnership to us up here. um because we're all residents of Lee Summit and we just value that that uh compassion that you listen to them. So that's all I have.

Thank you. Um I would say I'd echo everything that everyone said. I appreciate the residents coming out because like Commissioner Yearrington said, we are residents as well. And um we did not answer Connie Eid's question about she had some question about how she would go about petitioning businesses or or Jackson County. Can I'd like to take a recess after that. Can you talk to her, Hector, about that a little bit? Sure.

Okay. Okay. And um thank you for for your comments and thank you for working really hard and listening. Um we appreciate that. And with that said, I would entertain a motion here. I can do it. I got it. Uh chair, I I said I would do it and now I can't find it. Uh here we go. I move to recommend approval of application PL2025-338 and PL2025-339 preliminary development plan and special use permit for a convolescent nursing and retirement home lease summit senior community 5101 Northeast Lakewood Lee Summit Senior Living Community LLC applicant

second. Can we get a roll call vote please? Edward Yarrington, yes. Payton Hatcher, yes. Dana Arth, yes. Jessica Greno, yes. Tanya Janifford, yes. Chip Tazinski, yes. Randy Benrook, yes. All right, that emotion passes. Thank you very much. And I'm going to call a 10-minute recess.

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We had a citizen one time out there and he was bathing his two uh 9 foot long boa constrictors in the front yard. Apparently, I was that was garnering some some attention and so we went out there and had to talk to him about that. Why do I do this job? Oh, dude. I love this job. I grew up on a farm and taking care of that many animals, you can't help but like animals. This is just like fancy farming, you know? You're just bringing animals in here, taking care of them and and find them homes and uh yeah, absolutely animal lover This is the best place to work.

I love working here. I feel very blessed. I love it here. I look forward to coming to work every day, being a part of this team. Like a family away from home where everyone feels like everybody knows their name. A city that supports you. We see that with our benefits, a pension, vacation days, job security, being able to be heard. We feel valued. We feel respected. Lee Summit is a very progressive city. It's growing. It's thriving. We have this drive towards not just doing a job, but doing it with a spirit of excellence. I had the opportunity to continue to grow regardless of 30 plus years doing this kind of work. It's more than just dollars and cents. We're here really to give back. Providing a service to better a community, to go out and serve people,

to be a part of something bigger than yourself. If I would have known what I know now, years ago, I would have been here much sooner. Traditionally, we think as police officers, those responding to law enforcement needs within the community, but honestly, we are there to serve our citizens. And our citizens do go into crisis. They do have mental health crises, and we're being called to those scenes on a regular basis. In order to help serve those citizens better, we did initiate the crisis intervention team program. These are officers that are specially trained to deescalate crisis situations. Recently, we brought co-responders onto the scene, licensed qualified mental health professionals housed within our police department, and they respond with those officers directly to those scenes where a crisis is occurring so they can interact with that citizen and get them the help they need right there on that scene. The co-responders are either a bachelor or master level in a behavioral health related field. They wear plain clothes. They don't carry weapons or anything like that. I have a police radio that I listen to all day. Listen for, you know, those key words, mental health, behavioral health, crisis.

There's a lot of officers that just call for me. I have my own radio number. I also have the ability to self-dispatch to them and say 982's in route. officers in route 91. So, typically I arrive after they've made it safe. I'll make contact and get kind of the rundown and then I just kind of jump right in like, "Hey, you know, my name's Alison. I'm a mental health professional. I'm here to help you. I'm not here to take you to jail or arrest you."

Sometimes all a person needs is a voice, someone neutral, someone outside that, you know, can listen. I do a lot of safety planning, including family, their support network, who's close to you. Can some if they're home alone, who can come over and hang out with you today? Can we lock away your sharps? Can we put up your meds? Do you need meds? Can we get you over to the urgent care to get you assessed for your medications? Some of them also are like, "Oh, I'm so glad you came. This made me feel so much better." Our main goal as co-responders is to one get people connected to the services that they need and also divert from emergency rooms and jails

and they almost get a different view of the police responding. That lets me know you care and the officers care. Please, how can I help you? My husband has in 2020 we had 722 mental health related calls for service. 2022 by that time, 1479. These mental health related calls for service are increasing. How we're responding to that is increasing the number of crisis intervention team officers we have available as well as the number of co-responders we have available to respond on these calls.

So what I think is important for the community to know about the co-responder program is that we're here. We exist. All you have to do when you call 911 is ask for us. You know say hey I want a co-responder to respond to this this crisis and we'll go. I was really struggling about eight years ago on my personal journey with mental health and I met some amazing social workers and amazing programs that have helped.

All right, we will move on. I will now close the regular meeting and open the public hearing in the matter of application PL 2025164 special use permit renewal for Chapel Oaks Maintenance Storage Facility 657 Northeast Newport Drive, Chapel Oaks Development Company. Applicant, does applicant have a presentation? Okay. All right. Do we Oh, can you all stand up and be sworn in at this time?

Good evening. Uh Steve Barber, 10401 Howard Road, Lee Summit. Um, I don't have a presentation before I defer to staff. Uh, I would like to request a 15-year renewal instead of 10 if that's possible. Okay. Thank you. Thank you,

Pierce. Uh, good evening. Pierce Pium Planner, please enter enter to the record exhibit A, list of exhibits 1 through 16. Exhibit A 1- 16 noted and entered into the record.

Uh, the applicant is requesting a special use permit renewal for a maintenance storage facility at 657 Northeast Newport Drive. The facility was originally approved and built in 1995 and this will be its third SUP renewal since and there are no proposed changes to the site at this time. The property is zoned RP3 and is surrounded by residential zoning and uses and has town homes to the east, south and west and to the north lays Chapel Ho Chapel Lakes Elementary School. Um the future land use map designates the property as residential two which calls for multifamily medium density residential housing which the storage maintenance storage facility serves. The facility is used to store mowing, snow removal um snow removal vehicles and general maintenance equipment for um residential units in the Chapel Oaks subdivision. As part of the SUP renewal process, staff did conduct inspections of the property and noticed some concerns with the site such as outside storage of wooden pallets, vehicles, and landscaping materials. Um, the applicant did work closely with staff to get these items removed, and all the issues have since been resolved, and they did hold a neighborhood meeting on fe on February 9th, and members of the public attended. And so, with that, the conditions are listed here. Um, however, if you did want to um request or recommend a 15-year renewal renewal, we would have to change the second one and I can answer any questions you may have.

Thank you.

Mr. Yarrington, do you have any questions for the staff or applicant? No. Commissioner, I'm trying to get used to We have a new one. Commissioner Hatcher, I do not. Thank you, Commissioner Groono. Does anyone down there have questions? Commissioner Chisinski,

I don't want this to be my thing, as you know, Terry's thing is signing, but but I do I do want to help the community when that when asked, but there's going to be some standards when we when we ask. So, um, with regards to the city staff, you know, there there were some issues. they were they were remedied. Uh can you give us an idea of what those issues were? um is there I mean obviously the the second after we give the the permit those issues can come back up but so first I'm going to ask you you know what were those issues can you explain them a little bit and then if the applicant would like to respond and for lack of better words he swore in promised it's not going to happen again you know I would be more than happy to consider a longer term but let's just hear the issues and then let's let's ask them after the fact

yeah um so Um, part of the renewal process, we did conduct a few inspections. Um, I personally went out there and I there were some snow removal vehicles. They're kind of like construction vehicles with the like like the scoops on them. Um, there was some gravel or some rocks, I mean, and some like landscaping dirt, mulch, and um some wooden pallets. Um, we communicated that with the applicant and um let them know it had to be removed. Um, we kind of just went through the process of making sure everything was clean. I went up there I think two more times and eventually we got it all cleaned up. It was I mean it wasn't anything egregious I'd say. It was really stuff for the property surrounding it. Um but yeah, it was just pretty much I mean I'd say normal residential things like that.

And and what specific rules again I don't want to go down a super rabbit hole here, but what specific rules that were were broken? Like what is the ordinance that wasn't being followed? if if you have that. Um so part of the conditions for a maintenance storage facility is that if that does have storage um either need has landscaping or be internal. Um and so anything there can't be any type of outside storage. It all needs to be inside. Um that's pretty much basically the main condition that was broken. Okay. So um Madam Chair, I'd like to ask the property owner and and the the applicant to come up. So how long have you owned this business? Uh my father owns it. He built the place. Okay.

So, the shed was built in 95, I believe. Okay. And so, about this tall back then. Well, I appreciate you you sticking with your dad for the business. Um, so you're asking for 15 years and and and like I said, I always like to give property owners opportunity to to go for more. A lot of times I'm very supportive when they come back and said, "Hey, no, it's been pristine. We didn't have any issues." You know, they they keep the building nice. They keep their grounds nice. there were some issues, right? You came out and you fixed them. So, sure,

you know, ask you moving forward, can you can you follow the ordinances? Can you make sure it doesn't happen again? Um, you know, like I said, you you you're under oath and stuff. I' I'd like to really, you know, get your, you know, um your commitment to that before cuz I mean, I don't mind going the bat and and and bring it up in front of the commission and let them vote on it. Uh but I really want to hear it from you that you're going to maintain it, that you're going to follow the ordinances and and and keep the property looking nice. Sure. Well, I I'll do my best. Um I wasn't really aware that okay there was any ordinance broke. So then now that I know that uh I'll keep it that way. I appreciate that. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you.

That's all I had. Madam Chairman, thank you. Commissioner Grono, I have a I have a quick question. So, what is the standard inspection period or time frame that would go along with a special youth permit like this?

Um, so once the renewal um process was initiated, um the usually the first step would be to go out there and um check for um making sure any conditions are being met and if there's any like kind of uh damage to the site that wouldn't let it be kind of up to compliance. We check for that. Um and then we uh enter that into our comments and let the applicant know. Um and then they have time to um remedy the issues and then uh re re resubmit and then get back into the process of getting this onto the planning commission. All right, let me clarify. So once a special use permit is issued, when's the next time you go out for an inspection?

I I don't go do the inspections. I go for the um the renewal, but um it would be if if someone alerted the neighborhood services. Okay.

Um about it. So, a call would have to be made and then that's what would trigger it. So, um because I just pulled up real quick and don't get me wrong, things happen, things get stored outside, but when I just pulled it up real quick just to take a good visual look, um of a picture that was through Apple Maps, you can see that there's a skid steer out there, there's gravel stored out there, there's pallets out there. So, um things happen. you you are going to put some stuff there and you have intentions of um putting things away um delays occur totally understand but I don't know if there is a way that we can explore or look at an additional period for the special use permit but instill um more inspections or something along those lines to align with our expectations. So, just a question.

Um, I mean, I'm not sure if we can um add a condition for more inspections or anything like that. I don't believe we have any that would be anything I've heard of at least. No. And Madam Chairman and and Commissioner Grenell, I I think really in my opinion what this comes down to is no one's going to call unless they have an issue, right? And so that's and this is I think this is is this this for rent area? Do you is it like a

town houses that that you rent. So um and so really and that's really why I specifically asked the property owner to say hey I'm going to commit to doing this understand you know you bring a gravel home you're going to use it in a couple day. I totally get that and who knows those Apple Maps pictures could be months old and and it could have been cleaned up since then. So, um, that's and that's really, like I said, unless unless you plan on going out there and inspecting, it's probably not going to get called. So, uh, but that's just my two cents on it. Yeah, for sure. Did you have a question, Commissioner Brooke?

Yes, real quick. I don't want this to be my thing. Um, can we go to an elevation real quick of the building trying to leave it in good hands? Um, I have this one. I can pull up a better one if you'd like as well. Uh, yeah. Can you Do you have a better one?

Yeah, I can go to And just so you know, I was thinking about this before you made a comment, but we'll get there. So, what what triggered this was the the age of the building and then the the muted out picture of the elevation triggered something in my mind as we were discussing this, but I want to uh make sure I have a clear view of the building if I can. All right. So, for the applicant, do you know what kind of sighting is on this structure? What do you call it? T1 not T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T1111 siding

uh old batten board. Okay. So, in in the years that this building was built, it was pretty typical for um for them to use Masonite sighting, right? For the batite. Is that what this is? Yes. Okay. So, built in '95, you're you're lucky that it still looks as good as it does. Um there's huge lawsuits considering Masonite sighting. Uh, anytime you don't keep a ton of paint and a ton of on it, it kind of falls apart. Um, know all about it. That's what I've been doing. Okay. So, all the buildings are in that shape. Okay. Yeah. Uh, is that is the whole neighborhood built with that Masonite? Uh, pretty much it's been gone through with smart panel now. Okay. So, little by little you're replacing it.

Sure. Yeah.

Okay. So, I would support a 15-year extension if we could get a a modification that the sighting of the building be maintained or replaced as needed with um updated sighting. Um simply because I'm I'm dealing with this with my own house, so I feel the pain, trust me. And and I know this stuff is at the end of life and uh you're, as you said, you're already dealing with it and it's only going to get worse. You can already see the degradation at the bottom where it transitions. Um it's already chipping up and falling out. So I would be in support of 15 years if we made as part of the modification that the he um the ownership guarantees or the applicant guarantees maintenance of the sighting of this facility. That's all I had. Thank you, chair.

Thank you. So with that said, how would that be? That really can't be enforced though. Um I guess only if a complaint is made, right? That's what we heard. Okay. Okay. I have a question. Commissioner Hatro.

Um I I think some of the concerns are more uh general precedent rather than the specific as far as when something's brought up like this and some sort of issue was noted. I was just going to suggest perhaps going the opposite direction and reducing this to maybe one year to see if it was maintained or perhaps did not have those issues and then look at the maximum after that assuming the applicant does keep it as we have um discussed. You know, Madam Chairman, u I could be supportive of that if if the city decided if we could wave the cost for him to come back in a year because it is a significant expense. I think it we said last meeting was $1,400, I think, to come back and and to to come in front of this board and get that extension. Um I I could be supportive of that. Um but like I said, I would not ask the the the the owner to to repay if if that is uh something that we decided to do. Thank you. I did not consider that.

Mr. Barber, are you agreeable to that? To which part? To one year with a fee waved, if it's even possible. Is that even possible, Hector? No, we don't have the ability to to wave fees. No, we're just making deals for you all over the place. Okay. So, that's off the table. What's written? Okay. Never mind. Okay. as far as the one year. Um, probably also some of our our questions are really comments. So, we need to we need do we have any more questions? Commissioner Jana Ford,

I have a question in pertaining to like what options we may have. So, can't wave it. Understood. Is there a grace period we could provide, you know, like 60, 90 days or something like that to meet said requirements and conditions? Once those are met, then the 10 or 15 year can be granted. Um well I guess before I get to that point I guess just to understand better the concern is there um is just the concern in general regarding Masonite as a product from like a big picture perspective or I mean I'm you know looking at a photo is different from me looking on site. So I've not been to the site to know to say whether or not or know whether or not the materials like in good shape or not generally. So I mean if it's I mean I guess that's my concern right now is I mean I don't I don't see just from this photo and again you know what I could see in a photo and what one could see in person are two different things. So at least this facade I mean you mentioned that some potential areas in the where the transitions but like overall it looks like it's in pretty good shape. I don't know. I mean

commissioner that's an old picture too. It's been painted. It's got a new roof on it. Uh there's been uh repairs done. Now, the siding has hasn't been replaced, but it's been repainted and such. I don't believe it's in that bad a shape yet. Um I mean, if it were to be in bad shape, I don't want the eyesore either.

I I can speak to that, too. Um when I inspected the last time I was out there was probably last month. Um there was no issues with the driveway with the building or anything. It was just the storage outside. There was no issues with the um the look or it fits the another condition for storage mainten or maintenance storage facilities. It has to have the same character surrounding um buildings and it still has that look to it. And um there yeah there was no issues with the building at all. It was just the outside storage. So any other questions? Commissioner Benbrook? I don't have any more questions. I was just going to ask if anybody else did cuz maybe we need to continue this in discussion.

That's Well, yeah, that's okay. Did you have any you wanted to um address to us? No, ma'am. I think I'm finished. Thank you guys. Okay. All right. Hearing no further testimony, I will close the public hearing and reopen the regular meeting. Is there any commission discussion on this application? I'll start with Commissioner Ben Brookke,

I'm sorry. I'm the problem child this today. Um, you know, maybe 15 years is a stretch. Um, maybe even 10 years is a stretch. Um, I think 5 years might be reasonable now that the applicants is aware that there are maintenance. Um, that he's basically in a maintenance agreement with the city because of the zoning. Um, obviously they maintain an entire site. They're they're trying to rent it. They're trying to maintain it. I think they're they're trying to do that in good faith and and maybe a fiveyear at this point uh might be the best course forward. 15 might be a little long, but um I don't know how everybody else feels about that discussion. Commissioner Chisinski.

Yeah, Madam Chairman, thank you. Um you know, from the pictures from the property owner coming up here and talking, he's maintaining his property. He's maintaining the buildings around it in a similar fashion. He knows there's an issue. Sounds like he's replacing the buildings as he goes along. I I'm sure the maintenance facility becomes the last unless he's living in it. You know, that's probably one of the last thing that gets done. Um, understandably so. I'd rather have the apartments that are for rent and actually generating income be paid. So, to me, it sounds like he's he's maintain his property. Um, he satisfied my my desire to to know he's going to take care of the property. He's going to now he's aware that there's issues that needed to be done. Cool. Um, I would be of interest in in extending it to the 15. Um, but like Commissioner Ben Brookke, I'd like to really feel what the rest of the commission has to think about it. And then we'll we'll determine if if we're going to make that extension or not. I think 15 is acceptable. Um, I'm sorry. I think 10's acceptable. I think 15 would be allowable, too. But, um, those are my two cents. Thanks,

Commissioner Jana Ford. Did you have a comment? No comment. That's already been repeated. Thank you, Commissioner Grono.

I think that maybe I picked up a picture and Apple did the applicant dirty because he p they picked the right time to showcase um what we were talking about. Um I might ask us to take a look at when we have reviewed other special use permits and that there have been non-compliance issues with those applications or those renewals of special use permits and how um the applicant rectified the situation. adjust adjusted it and we all moved on. Um, so I think it's a very similar situation. We just got kind of hung up and we have some pictures that maybe supported what we were talking about a little bit that um, we kind of grabbed a hold of. Um, I personally am in favor of just staying with what's been proposed of 10 years, especially if there's some concerns over um, the building materials, it deteriorating. Um, I think that's a nice happy medium and that we would maybe treat it like we would um other situations that we've ran into in the past.

Commissioner Hatcher, um, I like that approach. I was just making a suggestion. Um, did not understand that cost burden. So, thank you for clarifying that. That was definitely not uh my intent there. Um, so, uh, I would agree with supporting the 10 given that's how it's been handled before. Commissioner Yrington.

Yeah, I look at very this very simplistically. Um, we're here to to recommend approval for or approve the special use permit for continue operations of a maintenance building. They had discrepancies. They fixed it. You noted it in your inspection. I think 10 years is and he and he upkeeps the property as he he witnessed himself. He said the roof needs to be replaced. He touches up on paint. I mean, I think he's very responsible. Um, and when he knows it's an issue, he addresses the issue and he took care of it. And I think he's requesting 10 years. I think there's no problem supporting what he's requesting. Actually, he requested 15. 15. Yeah.

Opening it said 15. Yeah. Okay, I see I I'm I'm good with 10. Sorry.

Hearing no further testimony or no, we've already done that. So, I need do Let me see who hasn't done a motion tonight. Commissioner Chisenski. Madam Chair, I'd like to make a motion here. Um, I move to recommend approval of application number PL2025-164, special use permit renewal for Chapel Oaks Maintenance Storage Facility, 657 Northeast Newport Drive, Chapel Oaks Development County, uh, company applicant. Second. Can we get a roll call vote? Did we didn't put the time period on there? Do we have to?

Is it 10? It'll be 10 10 years from the date of I forget how it's written. From the Actually, in this one, it's 10 years from the date of the previous expiration. Okay. All right. Can we get a roll call vote, please? Edward Yurrington, yes. Payton Hatcher, yes. Dana Arth, yes. Jessica Greno, yes. Tanya Janifford, yes. Chip Tazinski, yes. Randy Benbrook, yes. All right, the motion has passed. Thank you. and we can move on to roundt. Do you have anything Hector?

I have uh three things. Um so before everyone leaves, actually just want to remind um chairperson Arth and in this case, assistant secretary um Ben Brookke that the resolution for the CIP, we need to sign that before we leave. So that'll be your final action. Um, which leads me to the second thing. So, just wanted to thank you for for your tenure on the planning commission. We appreciate the the time you volunteered and it's uh it's not something we overlook. We understand the commitment and it's it's a significant commitment. Um, and we wish you luck in your future endeavors.

Thank you. I've enjoyed my time here. It's been fun. Educational. Um, and I'm sorry you guys had to put up with me so long. You could have gotten rid of me sooner if you just objected more often. Sure. Sure. I said some things that would have got me kicked off if you pushed it.

So, the only other thing I had to say was that um because after tonight we will be down two members. Um quorum of course will be a little bit tighter since we'll have seven until we get to new replacements. So, um, knowing that summer's coming, vacations and whatnot, um, you know, there's the likelihood of absences due to, you know, time spent with your family might, um, might conflict some with some of our meetings. So, the earlier you can communicate any planned vacations and we can kind of look to see what our schedule might be in the summer, um, just to try to until we get those positions filled, uh, we would appreciate it. I mean, we're hoping to get those positions filled quickly, but it that's out of staff's hands on how quickly that happens.

Okay, Madam Chairman, Hector, go ahead and put on your calendar that I will not be in town on the 28th, so I will not be able to make May 28th meeting. I think he just planned all your vacation days. Commissioner Grono, did you have something? I I have two. Um, one is a question. One is maybe well, I guess they're both questions. First one is when we reply to the email about if we are attending or not, do you guys want us to do reply all or just reply to the person that we send it to? Because that's what I do. But then I feel like there's emails that get thrown around of do we have a quorum? What's going on? I'm told the preferences for reply all, which

thank you. makes sense because it would help if someone might be on the fence and then they have everyone has a gauge as to like where we sit relative to quorum and that might push someone over toward making the meeting if possible. So okay thank you apply all. My second question is um concerning

when we are looking at different preliminary development plans especially around um housing or um like our application for um the the assisted living facility today or um couple meetings ago we were with John Knox Village. We always reference um in multif family is another hot one. We always reference about how um we are looking for we we look to the comprehensive plan and that's our guiding light and tells us what we should or shouldn't do and how it should work. But we don't always get updates about where we stand in terms of our um uh in terms of our goals towards that comprehensive plan as it pertains to the planning commission. And I know it's challenging. I know that it's not black and white and there's a lot of moving parts with it, but it would be nice if we had some type of update as to where we're sitting when it comes to multif family versus the missing middle type houses versus single family. Um, so that we could reference or just have some awareness of. Um, and it's not something that's every single time, but a few times a year would it would just be really nice to have some type of report or if that exists and I don't know it, I would love to know where it's at. Um, learn something new about the CIP um, dashboard. So, if there's other little nuggets out there that we should be aware of, especially I know I've been here a year, but you still learn so much. Um, I I would love that information or knowledge or training or um understanding of where that stuff's at andor being able to have it provided. So, just to be clear, the goal you're referring to is like the comprehensive plan set out a goal saying there the split the percentage split of residential ideally would be this this and this and where we sit relative to to that. Yes, we can

that would be one thing. I mean, I know you're thinking of all the different points like um community for all ages. Just the different points and how it stands. Yeah, this be really helpful. We can do that. And if it exists somewhere and I don't know it, just let me know and I will go look. We can get that to you. Thank you.

Maybe we can add that to the agenda in the back as a legend of some sort so we can have a reference um as as updated as of this date. This is what the city has. Um unless you can we can see it online you know that would be helpful as well where obviously everyone is going through troublesome times of trying to find the accurate data for the whole city. Um I spoke a little bit with Mark Dunny the other day just on a just in passing but there's there's a challenge um around for everybody and so that's really a challenge for you guys to figure that out. So, so we pull permit data on a monthly basis. So, um, so I guess depending on where that meeting might hit relative to that date as the calendar turns, you know, some of the data might be 7 days old, some of it might be closer to a month old, you know, but but yes, we can get that to you more periodically. Yes,

that would be really really helpful. Okay. And if it exists somewhere already that we just need to go look if you could just at least let me know or I ed all of us it would it would be really helpful. Um thank you. You're welcome. Yeah that transparency I think is the challenge and I think we're going to get improve on that u moving forward and so that's that's one of the great points everybody is asking. So it's good and Randy I'm going to miss you. I love your comments and I love your questions and I've learned so much by watching. So, thank you. Thank you. Anything else?

Sorry, one other thing. First of all, uh apologies for my ignorance if anything. And thank you all for your time and support and staff uh some time and assistance uh this week getting ready for this. Um, specific to what we heard tonight, I think it was Commissioner uh Jana Ford that made a comment on uh the senior living community in the first meeting about additional site plans or visuals of some kind. I did watch all of that meeting and saw the uh dome from different areas of the neighborhood. Um, I think something along those lines might have been helpful for understanding the grade and how the sight line was going to look out of the neighborhood. Um, cuz I drove it last night trying to kind of visualize that myself. Um, and that one elevation with the slope and everything showing the buildings kind of at the same height. That was helpful. Um, but I think, you know, having seen what it looked like with the dome, um, that was really eye openening, uh, for that one specifically. Uh, I know 3D renderings are expensive. Um, but, um, you know, it it might have actually helped with with some um, neighbor concerns as well if uh, or highlighted if there was going to be a big issue. But it would have been helpful to visualize how that changing slope impacted that sight line with the range of building heights. I think even just one view uh between um it actually is from the Eids property um through some of those houses I think would have been helpful. Um, obviously we can't require it, but I guess from the project manager side, hey, you know, this might be helpful when these specific site type of issues are coming up. Thank you.

All right, I'm not going to ask for any more round table. I'm just going to adjourn at 7:32. back. Hey, hey, hey.