City Council - Regular Meeting

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Lastly, Clark, please, invocation.

Let us pray. Our dear, most gracious Heavenly Father, we just thank you for this day. Just thank you for all the many blessings of life that you give us each and every day. Dear Lord, we ask that you be with the families that have lost loved ones over the past few weeks. Just comfort them as only you can. Dear Lord, I ask that you be with this council tonight as we conduct business in the city, that it will be pleasing to you. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen.

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Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. Tonight, before we go to regular citizens' comments, we do have a special presentation from the representatives of the Wilson County Fair, Tennessee State Fair. So I might ask them to step up first, then we'll go to our regular citizens' comments.

We thank you for allowing us to be here tonight. 47 years ago, we began this journey and we began coming to the city council meeting on the meeting prior to the fair starting. And we are where we are today because of a lot of different organizations, people throughout our city and county. But the city of Lebanon has been a major partner for us and a major supporter. And we're here tonight primarily to thank you For all that you do, every department of the city is an important part of the fair, and we could not do it without the city's support. Green tonight, you will see the front of our catalog. Our dates are August the 13th through the 22nd. Our theme is Tennessee Voices and Volunteers Celebrating America 250. In each state, the state fair is the major celebration for that state. And so Governor Lee asked us to start that last year, which we did. And we will continue with it this year as well. it is the year of forestry it is a unique uh thing that we are focusing on but we are so excited about it because the department of forestry with the state of tennessee has done so much with that theme and you're going to see some great things with it we currently rank as 22 in the top 50 fairs in the united states and we're very thankful for that as we look at 2025 We had 3,388 volunteers that gave some 131,722 hours. Our volunteers is what has made our fair for the last 47 years, and that is no exception now, and that volunteer base continues to grow as we continue to try to enlist volunteers from across the state of Tennessee. We had 15,260 exhibitors with 29,981 entries. We paid out in some premiums $242,000. We had 211 sponsors. We had 58 special events. We had 58 parade entries. And we had 2,494 exhibitors from 4-H and FFA. That's probably one of the major changes with the Tennessee State Fair is it has allowed us to engage 4-H'ers and FFA from across our state. And on the Monday of the fair, we will have them there all day in competition as part of that. As we look at Celebrate America 250, we are extremely excited about having the Freedom Truck that will be with us all 10 days as it goes across the nation, telling the story of America 250. And so it's going to be a great opportunity for our visitors to be able to see that as part of their fair experience. As we look at the year of forestry, you'll see the different things that will be done there from education to fire suppression to the life cycle of forestry, tree identification, large equipment, a sawmill operating, urban forestry, a wood shop. We'll have Smokey there the entire time and a lot of neat things that will be going on in the different buildings with that. And the Hale Moss building will be the center of that exhibits and all that will be going on with forestry. As we begin on August the 13th with our opening ceremony, that will be our special kickoff for America 250 with people from across the state being part of that. We will have a parade, we'll have ribbon cuttings, we'll have the dedication of our new CCF building and it will be a special night as we have the parade and we conclude the night with fireworks and we especially thank Mayor Bell and the City of Lebanon for supporting and sponsoring those fireworks, and that will be the only night that we will have fireworks. As we look at entertainment, we are honored this year to have two special concerts. Linda Davis will be with us on Sunday night, and Raelynn will be with us on Monday night, and those are sponsored by Bates Ford is making those possible, and two great concerts. Our Pitt, Tennessee experience in the center of the fairgrounds there in that building has been a great addition that the state has brought to us. And it will only be greater than in years past. And more demonstrations, more events going on there, more free items given out, milk given out every night. And the educational area outside, the Sprout and Stroll Tennessee specialty crops will again be there, which is a great walkthrough experience of all ages. Our arena and our motorsports continue to be a major event that draws for us from truck and tractor pulls, the bump and road, derby, four-wheeler rodeos, and monster truck, and a lot of different action will be happening there. As we took on the State Fair, one of the major additions is the number of livestock shows that we now have with over 150 livestock shows. And we have so many that we will be beginning the horse shows on August the 8th and 9th because we do not have enough facilities to work those in during the other events. A lot of state shows, new shows being moved to us. And so we're very thankful for how we are continuing to keep an agricultural focus and to be Tennessee's largest outdoor classroom for agriculture. Reithofer shows are already on our grounds putting up rides. This is the same carnival that we've had for many years. They were established in 1896 and they're one of the largest and you'll see a picture there of our sky ride that was a great hit last year and we think it will continue to be as it gives you an opportunity to see our entire fairgrounds each year. Fiddler's Grove is what makes our fair different from other fairs and has since we began that. And it will be no exception this year as we have over 30 demonstrators that will be there demonstrating for the 10 days, four stages of entertainment in the Grove, and a lot of special things that will be happening there with that. And we're very proud of Fiddler's Grove and what it brings to Lebanon throughout the entire year. As we took on the state fair, we did not want to lose Wilson County focus. And our commitment was to Wilson County that all the exhibits that were in the Expo building would continue to be Wilson County only, and that is still true. We have a lot of adult exhibits, our pageants, youth, pick Tennessee exhibits, and our school exhibits are in the east-west building for the entire county. As we look at what has happened since we have been the state fair, there's been $14 million in capital improvements, which are continuing as we spend that money. We are thankful that the city of Lebanon has partnered with us to get the Peyton Road widened. And we appreciate all that Christian has done in making that happen. And we hope and pray by next year, we'll have a road. We're praying now. unifying the entire state as we have brought all 95 counties together. Each county has an opportunity to showcase their county in the Made in Tennessee building with a booth that's set up on the map of the entire state. And we're proud to say that we've had all 95 counties participating and will again this year. It has greatly helped us with sponsorships. We've been able to increase, thanks to Sherri, some $400,000 in sponsorships. And that has happened because a lot of the major corporations could not be a sponsor of a county fair, but they could be a sponsor of a state fair. So they didn't have to do it in other counties. It has enabled us to continue to grow and to continue to promote agriculture as it is the number one industry in Tennessee and our state is very much wanting to promote that and we are trying to do that. We have had major support from across the United States. Last year, we had people that visited from all 50 states and 32 different countries. And we think that will continue as well. And as we talked about the additional participation for 4-H and FFA. We were able to get a CCF grant of $1.98 million to build a building that we greatly needed that will be our first aid building. It has new restrooms. It is a meeting space. And the main reason we got it was that we could have Wi-Fi over our entire grounds in a very great way. And so we are going to see that be ready for the fair, the building, and the Wi-Fi. And so we are extremely excited about how that will help our visitors that we have we have worked hard this year to try to improve our parking the city police department has greatly been a part as we continue to look at ways that we can get people in and out faster and we were able to get a grant that has enabled us to purchase three new trams that will be making their first run on opening night And they will be out in the parking lot bringing people in, and they can move around a lot better than some of the larger things that we've had in the past. We also are extremely thankful for the police department allowing us to be able to bring buses into the back of the police area there. and our county schools that works with us on buses and we are continuing to see our off-site parking growing people liking it in a way they can get into the fairgrounds in a much faster way new in 2026 the lumberjack show that kind of goes with the year of forestry we talked about the freedom truck we have rocket the robot and we have the speed meets heat that will be with us We believe that we will have a great year. We are hoping that all of this rain and hot weather will move on and we will see some different temperatures and different days. And so we would ask for your prayers for that as we go forward. Again, we thank you for all that the city does, all that each one of you do, and for your support. And our number one goal is to continue to showcase the city of Lebanon and Wilson County. Thank you. Thank you.

As always, we appreciate all the volunteers and all the hard work that Wills Canyon Promotions puts into this. A lot of people may not realize that you're a non-profit and you've been on this fair. And it's all volunteers. You've been doing it for a long time. So thank you for that. Move on to communication with citizens. So if you want to speak to the council tonight, now is the time. So please step to the podium, state your name and address, and you have three minutes to speak. There's a light system that tells you the time that you have to speak up there, and it'll give you a countdown as well. And also, we do ask people not to line up. So if someone sits down, just step on up to the podium. And we also ask to treat every speaker with respect as well. No clapping, booing, those types of things. So go ahead.

Good evening, counsel. Mikel Qualls, 29 venue circle, Lebanon, Tennessee. I'm reading a part of the syllabus from the newly decided Supreme Court case, Chattree v. United States. The Fourth Amendment's basic purpose is to safeguard the privacy and security of individuals against arbitrary invasions by government officials. And it was designed to place the obstacles in the way of two permeating police surveillance, United States versus Di Re and Carpenter. This court held that accessing cell site location information constitutes a Fourth Amendment search because individuals have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the whole of their physical movements, end quote. Flock Nova and Flock OS is continually growing its camera network, even having businesses and private entities allowing the government and police departments to access the businesses' cameras or private entities' cameras. Flock's system can turn any business camera into an AI-powered surveillance camera by integrating it into its system. This is on their website. Building an even larger searchable database, this is exactly the same pattern of life intrusion. Continuing with the Chattery v. United States syllabus, The government's argument that accessing only a short amount of cell phone location information does not count as a Fourth Amendment search fails. Even short-term monitoring can provide a wealth of detail about a person's familial, political, professional, and religious association. United States v. Jones. And this court has never understood Fourth Amendment protections as kicking in only once an intrusion goes too far. Pennsylvania Code Company v. Mahone. It applies regardless of the quality or quantity of information the government obtains. Kylo v. United States. That approach makes all the more sense when, as with location history, law enforcement officials can select a time-limited set of materials they want from an all-encompassing database, end quote, i.e. the FLOC OS system, all searchable without a warrant. flock safety cameras and AI surveillance systems act in the same way. There have been, as of today, 24 documented, cases of police officers using this technology to stalk exes and others. I'm not saying every cop is bad. I'm not. I support law enforcement or enforcement of laws, constitutional laws. Every time someone passes one of these cameras, their vehicle is logged and their location is plotted on a map in the Flock OS database, which can easily be linked to a specific person. This city council isn't knowing violation of the Constitution and violating citizens' Fourth Amendment civil rights under the color of law by funding this egregious technology. This technology should only be used on our enemies on foreign battlefields, not on free men and women. We, all of us, demand this ends now. I pray that you guys can understand and look at our Constitution and actually take that oath seriously because it needs to be taken seriously.

Thank you. Thank you. Let's go ahead and state your name and address, please.

Rick Julian's 752 Pintail Point. I'm here to speak against the use of the flock cameras. I'm 73 years old and I have seen my rights and liberties deteriorate over my entire life. I don't pay much attention to politics, but politics seems to want to pay attention to all of us. I am a big supporter of the law enforcement, And I know that there are good uses, could be good uses for the flock cameras. I think there are serious constitutional issues that need to be considered. And I suspect each of you know that. What I've heard throughout my whole life is that, The road to hell is paved in good intentions. So there are certainly some good intentions around the use of flock cameras. And there are different cases and situations where it can be very helpful. But the question is, how much of this slippery slope do we get on as we give up our rights and our liberty to travel and to be free in this country that we talk about? I think we can look back to the J6 situation where a political change happened and people were persecuted mercifully in that process. And many times it's the process that's very damaging to people versus the crime itself. So I guess, again, I don't believe there's anything I'm gonna say that you don't know, but our liberties and freedoms, we're giving them up one at a time, all the time. And I think we just have to really search our souls and say, is that what we want? Even if we get a grant and we make a little money off it, is it worth it? Anyway, I'll give up my time now. Thank you.

Thank you.

Good evening, Council. My name's Aiden Pryor. I live on Fairview Avenue. I'm here today because still nothing has been done about the $22,800, to be exact, spent on Sarah Haston's office. And it's appalling that our own city government cannot seem to investigate a simple issue involving our money. It's absolutely unacceptable. It is also unacceptable that members of this council have been screamed at and berated by male members of this council, including Chris Crow and the city attorney for simply asking questions. No member of this body should be treated any such way. And this council has became way too comfortable with wasting our tax dollars. And Mr. Mayor Hale, I think you need to take a leadership one-on-one class because you have failed the city and you should be ashamed that nearly $23,000 of our taxpayer dollars has been spent on luxury office furnishings while families in our community work eight, 10 and 12 hour shifts just to make the ends meet. You may be able to waste money like that because you're a millionaire, but the people of Lebanon cannot. My salary is $75,000 a year. I'm sure that's about average in here. And we cannot afford to continue our money to be wasted. It's your responsibility to be stewards. It's my council member's job to sit there and question what you're doing with my money. And if she can't even do that, then I think it's time for us to elect a new council because no one on this council besides two people who I'm looking at right now, the two women who are the only duly elected members, the rest of you have not had opponents in years. Chris Crowe is running unopposed. Joey Carmack, when he runs, will run unopposed. So what are we even doing in this council? What's the point of having a city that's chartered? Should we just de-charter? Should I go to my state senator and ask for a charter violation? And for any member in here, any... person um if you think our money has been wasted or abused you can file a complaint at the tennessee comptroller's office and that number is 1-800-232-5454 or you can go to comptroller tennessee.gov because it's time that we have accountability in the city again and it's absolutely outrageous that we have to come here time after time to plan out the corruption so mary belle either fork over with 23 000 for our furnishings or we're gonna need some investigations done okay

Thank you. Anyone else?

Good evening, all. Jessica Garrett, 626 Hazelwood Pike. Thank you again for the no truck signs. They have helped tremendously. I've seen a drastic change, so thank you. However, I'm here as a working taxpaying citizen of Lebanon, Tennessee, to demand for some answers on other topics. First being, where is our city attorney? He has been MIA this whole entire month, and I've been trying to reach him. Nobody seems to be able to tell me where Andy's at. Secondly is the Sarah Hastings topic. Since she seems to think that it's appropriate and was allowed to, as a city employee, to shout at our appointed council members, well, council ladies, excuse me, I have come to demand for you to do what's right, along with reasonable accommodations for my husband, a fellow city employee who has never had any ethical complaints, write-ups, or anything against him. But he sure has something against you all, an EEOC charge of discrimination that you seem to think you're just going to get away with. How dare you let any employee spend that kind of money? That's taxpayers' money. That's our money. It's not yours. It's ours. I can guarantee you my entire house is furnished for less than what she spent on that office. And since they're reasonable accommodations and she seems to be so entitled to, we weren't paying for it before, so why should we pay for it now? Make that make sense to me, please. How about I tell you that all of our citizens should know most of the unused or updated office items and equipment that get pulled out of those offices, guess where they go? Into the dump. You want to know how I know this? The street department, strangely, street department, gets sent over there frequently to go help clean out items of the Mitchell House. I don't think that's their job description. Actually, I know it's not. Or let's talk about how you guys have retaliated against my husband, supposedly because of his medications, but we all know that's not the case. Also, I want to know about why Wayne Carmack and Lee, or both, held a certain applicant's, excuse me, application for a position that my husband was entitled to, but he was told that it didn't even exist. You have a CDL holder who was on Adderall. You let him drive. You've got one that had seizures and wrecked a company vehicle, and you still let him drive. But now my husband can't even drive a pickup truck. Explain that to me, because it don't make sense. And just because, as a licensed pharmacy technician, we can sit here and talk drugs all day long. What you're doing to my husband is wrong, absolutely wrong, and I will make sure every citizen in this town knows about it. The funny part is y'all just paid to get his CDLs. Oh, wait, we paid to get his CDLs, and now you've restricted him and won't even let him use it. So where'd that money go to? But yet he still shows up every day.

During the Higgins 105 Moss Court, I don't have a long speech tonight. I just want to say, you know, I've gone down there and I looked at the Northwest Quadrant Square Park, and I'm questioning some things. How did that cost $650,000? That was paid for by taxpayer money. And when I look at it down there, there's not even a retaining wall that even separates it for Burger King. So it looks like an outdoor eating area for Burger King. That's what it looks like right now. And on top of that, and this hot, boiling sun that we've got in the summertime, you think people are going to go down there and sit and eat out in the hot sun? There's not even any umbrellas out there on the tables to put some shade. We've got little bitty trees that have been put in. When you go back and look at the planting... map for that, it didn't look like that. There were bigger trees that were supposed to go in there. So I don't know who was behind the planning on this, but they didn't think this through. And again, that's $650,000 worth of taxpayers' money, and I think it's a shame.

I don't know what it's been spent on. Thank you.

Thank you. Charles Smith, Leland Lane. I'm curious about changing zoning for over 65 and 85 Rutledge Lane. Not sure what that's about. Seems like it's changing zoning to fit a desired purpose. But I don't want to talk about a lot of complaints. What I want to do is offer a few suggestions. Do what you want with it. The light at East High and Hartsville Pike. Well, I'm sure that is probably State Road. Who cares? Get the left turn signal changed. Send in the bill. Okay? regarding the sewers keep Lebanon's bad choices inside of Lebanon don't try and subject the people in the county to that they don't want it that's been made more than obvious and let's not play these let's see who can be dumber game about the funds going out to the expo center for 10 grand or was it 10 grand 100 grand whatever that gets repaid over many times um As far as the entire town kind of reminds me of Broadway Parkway for the last 45 years. It's constantly in construction everywhere you look. Let's combine some workforces and get projects actually done instead of the entire town looking like an artillery range. Sound like a good idea? And here's another thing. If you don't have the supplies on hand to finish up a project, don't start it. The entire Hartsville Pike project could have been done inside of four months at the latest, but they kept on delaying and delaying, getting things done, delaying supply lines. I really don't like seeing things done sloppily and badly and causing everybody a lot of issues why um the pod camera stuff i'm sure you've heard about it before tonight you've heard about it once tonight you're gonna hear about it again man it's gotta go uh you can't just be spying on folks you have to have a reason you have to have ras to just even pull somebody over and that's reasonable and articulable suspicion for anybody who doesn't know

1984 was supposed to be a fiction novel not a blueprint okay thank you ladies and gentlemen thank you hello my name is tina o'connell 406 green tree point circle here in lebanon i've never been to a meeting i've never seen the need to i uh was busy raising kids all my life but after the video the audio that i heard at the last meeting and the way some people on this committee was talked to about questioning what needed to be in question and investigated before it was spent i'm appalled totally mayor bella in that audio you told someone here that it wasn't their job to investigate, that it was your job. Well, why aren't you doing your job? Why didn't you do your job before $20,000 was spent on one person's office, $807 for a floor lamp? I just got a floor lamp picked up in Mountain Juliet I got for free off of Marketplace. It's ridiculous. I want to know how I can go enjoy my taxpaying money in that office. Can we have picnics in there? I mean, it is appalling to me that anybody sitting up here would think that it's okay. It's not okay. And now I'm going to fight. for what's right, because I was born and raised here, went to school here my whole life, was a foster parent for 14 years, had over 300 something kids in my home. Those kids come without a, they come with a plastic bag for their clothes. Your Wilson County foster kids go to their first foster homes with a plastic or a paper bag but you can spend $20,000 on furniture in an office. Makes me sick. Thank you.

Thank you. Anyone else?

Hi, Andrea Morris. I'm at 1248 Curtis Drive and that's in the Coles Ferry Village neighborhood. I just wanted to come and thank whoever is responsible, especially Mr. Carmack for helping us lower our speed limit to 25 miles an hour from 30. but it shouldn't have taken two years to make that change. Two years ago, I submitted the traffic management program application to the city of Lebanon. Excuses were made by city officials citing ongoing construction and the expectation that traffic would eventually move off Tucker Trice Boulevard and onto other roads. This may happen in the future, but it's been two years and those developments are still incomplete. This poses an ongoing danger to residents who live near that road because we don't have sidewalks like the new neighborhoods. In 2024, when the city came and measured speeds, I have recorded high speeds between 40 and 50 miles an hour with a peak speed of 59 miles an hour. None of that data was sent to me until I requested it in open records. I can only imagine now what that information and speed would look like. So thank you for lowering the speed to 25 miles an hour. But I've also had to call the police for vehicles... in front of my home, individuals hanging out of their car windows and speeding in front of my home. We're talking about people's lives and the likelihood of survival if a pedestrian is struck by a car. There's a huge difference between 25 miles an hour and 40 or 50 miles an hour. Please don't let the next preexisting neighborhood that becomes a cut through wait two years for any action from the city. And please don't give us the cost of speed humps at over $9,000 a piece to address the growth and traffic dumping on our neighborhood streets. That should be within development plans, not on our backs as neighbors. So again, thank you, Mr. Carmack. I'm hoping it will make a difference. We'll see.

Thank you.

Derek Dyson, 106 Chapman. I would like to share a short story with you with regard to one of the most memorable sites I've ever seen in the city of Lebanon, where about all of you were responsible for that happening. So here's the story. And by the way, before I get the story, I would like to say this. As is often the case, when I have a bee in my bonnet topic I wish to speak about, something comes along and I'm instead speaking about that at this microphone rather than what I thought I was going to be speaking about. So here's the story. It was July the 11th. It was 9 a.m. By complete accident, I was at the intersection of 231 North, and the bypass in front of where the Lebanon Democrat used to be when a flashing light came in front of me, which meant I could not turn left. And then another flashing light And Councilor Bryan and Mayor Bell, I'm going to guess you two may have had this same experience, maybe others as well, which I'm about to get to. But the flashing lights passed by, and I went, okay, it's an emergency something. What's going on? The next vehicle rolled through the intersection, and I knew what was happening. Fabulous Fred was about to come through the intersection, and as I watched him, nine to ten straight white vehicles come through zoom zoom zoom zoom i went there goes a hundred thousand dollars there goes a hundred thousand dollars there goes a hundred thousand dollars there goes a hundred thousand dollars last four white limousines identical there goes a hundred thousand dollars they brought fred to city hall whereby maybe you were here tick i'm sure mayor bell was here it was 9 15 in the morning or something at that point for fred to line state here at city hall But being at that intersection, seeing Fabulous Fred come through that intersection, all those white vehicles was a sight to behold. And then later in the day was the funeral of Fabulous Fred. Mayor Bell, you did a fantastic job, as did Mayor Hutto. and as did Susie Bay and the other speakers, as with Newble Funeral Home, they did a fantastic job. I've had the accidental and on purpose good fortune of seeing approximately six epic, epic funerals in this city. I'm sure there have been more. And if you ever, as a historian, wrote a book, Mayor Bell, you should have a chapter in there about epic funerals that have taken place in this city. That being, obviously, the last one that's just unbelievable in this city. And the one before that that I saw that was absolutely epic, and also at the fairgrounds, was one Eddie Conrad.

Thank you. Anyone else?

Jay Hill, 2209 Hardspoon Court. The flock cameras are wrong. It's obvious. Y'all made a mistake. They've made a mistake all over the country. Fix it. Defund the contract when it's time for the renewal. It's not a big thing. It's not a big ordeal. It's not hard to do. You messed up. For all these people that are telling you they're wrong, they're right. And there's a lot more people behind them. This is the majority now. You're the minority. Fix it.

Thank you. Come on up.

Melissa Lacks, 1075 Spring Creek Road, and I'll be quick, although I don't talk very quick. I'm from Alabama, but I've been here since 2005. I don't get involved in this kind of stuff, but one thing I can guarantee you I'll get involved in is my freedom, my children's freedom and my grandchildren's freedom, liberties, pursuit of happiness, and their damn privacy. When you strip people of their privacy, you enslave them. What's going on in this country is we're being enslaved, okay? This is a digital prison. The infrastructure just popping up all around us would not only flop, and that's just the front runner, and that Dave Garrett, the founder, T-shirt guy, looks 12, okay? He's rolling out drones. So what do y'all think about that? And how can you convince me that this is all for safety? As others said, I'm sure there's some safe things about it, but check it out. What about Harris County in Houston, Texas? So that county has currently more flock cameras than any county in the country, in the United States, 3,700 at the moment. What else does it have? The most murder cases. in this country, Harris County. I mean, think about that for a minute. It doesn't take a rocket scientist. What about prison? There's a lot of surveillance in prison, right? A lot of cameras, a lot of shanking going on in prison, a lot of drugs. I mean, where's safety? Come on now. A lot more corrupt can go on with this than it already has been, and a lot more fixing to roll out. That ought to wake some people up if you're asleep. OK, then good and that's all I got. Appreciate it.

Anyone else?

Jeremy Frizzell, Swindle Hollow Road. So again, I'm like everybody else, talking about the flock cameras. And I'm going to do it a little different than what they're saying. I always look at it. When I do something wrong, I pay. Guess what? When the government does something wrong, I pay too. And just because something's legal right this minute, there's a ton of stuff. You can start from slavery and go ahead for years and years and years of stuff. Well, it was legal. It was legal, and it started out, and then it got overreach and overreach and overreach, and there'll be a lawsuit on this, you know, the one that they just mentioned. You know, the Supreme Court said that geofencing is illegal. You know, that Google, you know, all these people are starting to get sick. Y'all's contract flocks only responsible for $100. You know who's responsible for the rest of it? Y'all. Then you know who that is? That's going to be me. That's going to be my tax dollars. And so that's aggravating. The other thing, here's 30 cities and this is from back in march 30 cities big cities with more lawyers than we have that are canceling their contracts cities y'all know santa cruz california evanston illinois eugene oregon flagstaff arizona austin texas they go on and on la just this week they're all hey we got to cut this out because we're about to get the piss suit out of us That's going to happen to us. We don't have the money to pay for it because, you know, everybody knows lawyers. There's good ones and there's bad ones. But the bad ones all got their hand out. You know, well, guess what? The city is going to get sued and our city can't afford it. Big cities can't afford it, but we sure can't afford it. Who's going to pay it? We are. All of us people sitting right here. You know, that's then you go through and then there's other stuff that's going to get us sued. You know, like the other guy was mentioned, I Googled. I didn't even know this was going on till 530. Just sitting here making notes. You got 27 cases. And again, you got good and bad everything. You got 27 cases of officers stalking people with lock cameras, romantic interests and ex-wives. That stuff gets you sued. It don't take but one good lawsuit. you know and then our city's bankrupt you know who pays what we do again you know and so that's the stuff that's aggravating about the whole deal now the the obviously the surveillance and stuff that's wrong that's real bad but everybody's covered that but the the whole lawsuit stuff we're all about to be paying it it's going to be your tax dollars and my tax dollars too you know it's just it's really it's bad and it's going to come around you know it's not if it's when and y'all know it's going to come around and to think well we're going to draw this money in for a little while until it does until they make us We might be the one that ends up at the Supreme Court when they make us. We might not be way down the list than somebody else does. We might be the one that gets drug in and gets drug all over national TV over it. You know, who's to say who's the one that gets there? Who's to say it's not somebody here in Lebanon that sues and it goes that far and gets stopped? And so, yeah, all these other cities, somebody's going to sue there, but what if it's us first and then we all get sued? Who pays for it? We do. That's all.

Thank you.

Come on up, Mr. Dunn.

My name is Jim Dunn. I live at 1709 Blairmont Drive. I feel kind of small tonight. I don't have anything to fuss about. Usually do. But I was looking at the US Constitution and some other things the other day at my office. And I found a couple of notes here. And all of you probably know what this is about and even know what the dates are and all that stuff. But I'm going to do it anyway. And when we have a meeting, first thing we do is have the allegiance to the flag. And did anybody know when that was written? It was written in 1892 by a guy named Francis Bellamy. And it was written in response to a decree that was given by then President Benjamin Harrison, who was encouraging people to do political things to build up the country at that time. And it was first written and published on September the 8th, 1892. The official date it was put in record was October the 12th of 1892. Now, it comes along In 1942, and during the Second World War, Congress made it part of the U.S. flag code. That's why it became the flag code. On Flag Day of June 14th of 1954, under God, as mentioned, was added and made into public law. Now, y'all might already know all that. But anyway, I thought it was interesting. And if you didn't know it, you found out where it came from, all this flag honor that we give. And that's all I got to talk about. Things are pretty good in my neighborhood. And I think we got a good bunch of people representing us here on the council. And I think we... have a lot of good things to be thankful for this year. As far as the national picture, we're just about as screwed up as you possibly can get as a nation. We can't remember one day to the next what we're doing or why. But anyway, that's another story, and I just appreciate you time for listening to me. Thank you both.

Thank you.

My name is Sherman Pillow and I live at 1425 Burford Road here in Lebanon, Tennessee. I have lived there for 52 years and I want you guys to know I love my country. I love my constitution. I love my city of Lebanon and I really want you to know that I appreciate that we started off with prayer this evening and I watched everyone in this room place their right hand over their hearts and pledge allegiance to this flag and to the Republic for which it stands. And I hope everyone that prayed tonight honestly prayed and that you believe that there is a creator and that the creator is taking notes, that there's a record and that we are all gonna stand and give an account one day. Now I'm a business owner. Okay, here in the city of Lebanon. And I've done quite well in this town. And I'm proud of this town. I'm proud of the way this place has grown. I'm not here to berate you. You've had plenty of that tonight. I couldn't imagine sitting here and taking the continual just beatings that you guys take. I appreciate our police officers. I appreciate our chief of police. I appreciate our sheriffs. But I will have to say that I'm afraid that we have made a terrible mistake with these flock cameras. These things can get our town, our city, just like the gentleman said earlier, we can lose it all. I have worked, I want you guys to know, I have lobbied hundreds and hundreds of hours at our state capitol. I worked with Mr. Mark Potey on the heartbeat bill. I worked with him closely and it was my idea for the trigger law. Praise be to God that abortion is illegal in the state of Tennessee. I worked on the drag queen story hour. We lost that one at the Supreme Court, but I'm still proud that I got to be involved in that. But I greatly fear that our city may very well, may be that first one that gets sued before the Supreme Court. And I'm sure everyone sitting here, including the officers, they surely know what qualified immunity is. If we have violated the Fourth Amendment in the Constitution and found guilty of this, Everyone in this room will lose qualified immunity and you could possibly say the greatest transfer of wealth that this city has ever seen from the folks are sitting up here to the folks that are sitting behind me. These people could very well likely sue and they have every right to sue the city and the police department. I hate to see us lose. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Anyone else? Okay, so now I'll move on to my comments. I do have a couple things to announce tonight or talk about. The first one is this, the new splash pad in Don Fox Park. So we got our final state inspection today and it passed. So I want to thank Alex Major, even though it's in Don Fox Park, it does come under the Department of the Jimmy Ford Center. And so I want to thank Alex for his work on this, and also Jake Pruitt, our capital projects director, for helping shepherd that through the process. So we went over it today and passed inspection. Alex and Jake turned it on to make sure it worked and it worked and there were kids there. So Alex just went ahead and opened the door. So the splash pad, either officially or unofficially, opened today. And so we're glad that happened. I want to thank TDEC for their grant to make that possible. And we'll thank the city council for their support of that grant and the entire process of getting that done. I think it's a great addition to Don Fox Park, and it'll be there for years to come. Now that it's open, We've been working with Councilor Carmack on a day type of ribbon cutting. And so that'll be July 30th at 4.30. And so we hope there are kids over there playing and we can have a great time officially opening up the splash pad. But it is open and kids can go over there and play. And so we're glad that's happening. Also, another event coming up next week on that same day, Sam's Club is having their opening on July 30th at 8 o'clock in the morning. They've had their ribbon cutting, their official opening. So I want to thank them for their investment in our community. I think that's going to be a great asset to us as well. And I saw some of the Sam's Club's associates, another ribbon cutting yesterday afternoon. and so they're here working getting that store stocked and and getting it ready for next week and so i invite everyone to come out to uh to that ribbon cutting and that's on july 30th at o'clock and also i want to thank the council for uh for supporting that project that was a multi-year effort to get sam's club here and it took it took some infrastructure to make that happen and And I just want to say thank you to the City Council for doing that and agreeing to that. And so now we'll have a great store open out there next week. Then also next week, we have another event on July 31st, that evening, the Square Park. We'll have a celebration of that as well. We'll cut a ribbon. We'll have our city stage down there. We'll have some music as well. And we do invite everyone to come out and enjoy the show and enjoy the new park and a new era for the Square. That square has gone through a lot of changes through its history, and this is another area for the square. And so I appreciate the city council supporting that as well. And that will be July 31st there at the park. And we invite everybody to come out, get some food at the restaurants down there, and come out and enjoy everything. So that's my three announcements. Councilor Carmack?

You can come back to me. Okay. Thank you.

Thank you, Councilor Ashley.

Thank you, Mayor. I have a number of comments tonight. First of all, I wanted to, and again, this is a topic I keep coming back from too, but it's something that I think is worthy of speaking again. in terms of the work session that went back to July 1st. And I see the recording of what happened in that work session has made its way into the public. And, um, that's not anything that I gloat on, but it's also something that I'm glad that the public got to hear how, uh, Camille and I were spoken to by Chris, the mayor, Sarah, and the city attorney. And, All those issues were relevant to questioning expenditures, which I believe is one of the primary reasons that we are elected. Our own charter. talks about the Mayor Pro Tem's responsibility to review expenditures on a monthly basis with the financial officer to look at every expenditure that goes through the city and to provide the council with a written summary or oral summary on a 30-day basis. So I'm asking that at the next meeting that we have a summary of the last 30-day expenditures and the actual invoices so that we could review those. I also wanted to make a correction in terms of the $22,000. I get information now by Freedom of Information Act request, and I have the receipts here. And over a four-month time period, there was $28,080.46 that was spent on those office expenditures. And I'm going to ask somebody to put these into the records. They're the city checks and the actual invoices that were paid by our finance department. I have some other comments in terms of the ordinance that is being brought forth tonight to terminate the donation to the Expo Center. I do have to, when the county had the resolution and they made mention of, you know, they didn't want the sewer plant in the county, and I believe that Those commissioners were speaking on behalf of their constituents. That's what their constituents wanted, even though we probably all know that it probably doesn't mean anything about where the sewer could or could not go. I mean, personally for me, as a resident of the city and the county, I did think it was important, some of Mayor's comments that people understand that people in the city not only are city residents, but they're also county and we pay taxes in both places. So I do think there was a disconnect in the county understanding that we are a part of them as well. I think the concern is that we are a partnership and I'm very concerned about a tit for tat relationship. There are times that we weigh fees, they weigh fees. We just had a budget session literally two months ago where this was an itemized expense that was on the budget. There was absolutely no comments about taking that financial responsibility. It's not listed as a donation. It's listed as a financial responsibility away from the county. So I am open to a discussion, but I think that this is another example of things that we need to have a work session about. I don't think this is something that should throw up on the agenda when there's consequences to doing this. I think there's also the financial obligation says the payment was due in April, and we've not paid the payment in April, and I think that we do need to make that payment. Again, I'm open to a work session. I'm open to a discussion. I'm interested in a legal opinion. I like to look at the things from a legal perspective about what our obligations are, but I'm not going to support it because it appears very tit for tat for me. I think that is, uh, the other thing that was mentioned was, um, the July or the parade for the, um, for the fair. And I wanted to check to see if the city is going to have a float mayor.

We do not do floats in the Fairport. We haven't historically. They have invited me and the other three mayors in the county to ride back the pickup truck, but that's the only thing that I know this is their parade, and so they're in charge, and so they sound the invitations, but no, we're not going to have a float.

Okay. That's all I have.

Thank you. Council Burner.

Well, I want to thank everybody for coming, of course, tonight. And this is the place to have discussions and to voice your opinion. So I do appreciate people coming in, and I appreciate them expressing their opinions. We don't always agree, but it means more to us if you come in here and look at us and tell us what you think. We are going to listen to you. I guess the only thing I have is to invite everybody down to the square. I think we've made some great improvements in the square over really the last eight years. It seems like it's come a long way. We've not just done that here as a city. We've done that with partnerships and we've done it with the merchants and we've done it with property owners and I hope you will come and enjoy activities that we have down there. It's a great place to gather, as it was many years ago, and that's one of the things I love about our history. I did have a question for Regina. Where are we on the square project? Are we about finished with that, with the northeast quadrant?

We are still coordinating with the property owners for the gas easement.

Okay.

with one or all the one that it asked for the easement to begin with were once we've got that one squared away in the document they're happy with the document we're going to share it with the others okay how much longer do you think she reached back out to me last week and was going over going to go over it with her attorney so soon i hope but i i don't have a set time

Okay, well, wish we could have started that earlier and then I hope we're going to every property owner down there, make sure we have the right easements. I did want to comment, we are making great strides with the, there is a trail that is going from the train station through the back of the mill area. and going through the property of the mill and then we'll end up on maple on north maple and we hope to continue that hopefully to the park in the future but step by step and that property owner generously gave us a easement and the city is work doing the work there by clearing the brush and then i believe it will be paved isn't that right lee okay and all that hopefully connects to don fox you can go there and use the splash pad and enjoy that that really is one of our goals is to make sure that things are walkable in our downtown um i do want to comment on something that is on the agenda um we have a non-profit that was placed on the agenda and i don't agree with um having it placed on the agenda and the fact that we do have a process for that and we did that during budget section um our buzz budget work session and um i think that we develop that process because so we wouldn't have people coming at different times and asking for money. Now, I want to say that we value all the nonprofits out there. They help us tremendously. We cannot be the city we are without those nonprofits. But there is a time and a place and a process for that. And we evaluate all of them. And some do get funded and some don't for various reasons. And again, we have a process every year and everything is looked at. So I'm a little disheartened that something was put back on the agenda after we just had a discussion some months ago.

And that's all I have. Okay, thank you. Councilor Crowe?

Mayor, thank you. I just want to take a moment because I didn't last time. I think it was mentioned by Derek about Fred Burton's funeral and lying in state here. I don't remember who the last person with Mayor Fox. I can't remember who the last one was that was in state here. But Fred made great contributions to our community. in so many ways, his tenure of service was really incredible given today's environment where lots of folks are chewed up and spit out over time. And he quietly at times took care of his business and made sure that his constituents were represented. that roads were paved and garbage was picked up. And if something wasn't taken care of, he was calling somebody. And I think those of us up here on this side of the dice have seen that. And I know many of the employees, I know Mike back there got many phone calls from Fred. So we'll just continue to remember his family. And of course, um lee mentioned earlier about others in our community um i know we lost tanya's mom so a 45-year employee for the city of lebanon lots of folks work for our city for a long period of time. And they just quietly do their job, come in and clock in and take care of the city's business and do an excellent job at it. So we appreciate folks like your mom as well, Tonya. And then of course the servicemen and women that we've lost in conflict recently. Um, you know, it's a horrible thing to lose someone, um, in a military conflict and certainly in the time of war. So we'll certainly remember those folks as well. um i want to touch just a moment on on what camille mentioned about the non-profit uh donation um you know the way i remember that meeting is that we basically sort of tabled um the um the uh the money that was left over uh that we chose not to allocate at that time and from my standpoint i definitely remember what i said And I know that I said that we would revisit those if other information became available. I trust that Councilor Carmack has done the due diligence there and certainly plan on supporting him in that effort. And I think that's fair. You know, if we have more information that comes available regarding contributions like that, these nonprofits are doing great work in our community, and we need to make sure that we support what they're doing. So I definitely will support that effort. And that's all I have right now, Mayor. Thank you.

Thank you, Councillor Bryan.

If anything, Mayor, thank you.

Thank you. Council Moorhead?

Passes all, Mayor. Thank you. Councilor Cormack?

I will just kind of touch on the changing laws one day at a time. I wasn't at the budget work session because I was in a jury trial. To my understanding from other individuals that was at the budget work session, it was removed at the request of two people. I'm not going to state who it was. But that recording is no longer available. So of course, we can't go back and listen to what was said. But there was another nonprofit removed. And this lady that is asking for it, Ms. Siobhan Johnson, has came to me because she is an award one. She is an African-American lady and she had a feeling that something was strange as the Civic League was also removed that night as well. Once she explained to me what her nonprofit was, what they was trying to accomplish, and it's not a lot of money, it's $5,000 to try to get her started with her changing lives one day at a time. We've not donated her money. She went through the process, but she came to City Hall and was told, we don't have a reason why you was denied. They should have a reason. So yes, I placed it on the agenda. I'm sorry you don't agree with the way I done it. It's my choice. If you don't want to vote for it, that's fine. I feel great about doing it because I feel like we're doing a great thing for a nonprofit. As far as the splash pad, I look forward to everyone coming out to it. I'm glad that it opened today. I had many calls about when it was going to open. I know it took longer than expected. It was a state grant and things like that happened. And as far as Fred, I missed the last meeting. I was on vacation. I came while he was lying here in state. It was an honor to see him up here. And I know they had to go through special strides to get him to get the casket in here and the flags and all of the family that was here. It's very nice. And then I also watched the procession coming from the fairgrounds as they took him through Ward 2. It was an honor to sit beside him for eight years. You never knew what he was going to say. And he's truly going to be missed. I'm going to miss the phone calls. And that's all I have. Thank you.

Thank you. We have a consent agenda. It has five items on it. I'll read each one of those. Orders number 26-7442, second reading to authorize budget amendment for the wastewater treatment plant by Regina Santana, utilities director. Orders number 26-7443, second reading to approve budget amendment for the police department local option fund by Lindsay Wolfenbarger, finance director. Orders number 26-7444, second reading to approve budget amendments for the police department to purchase vehicles for the CERT program by Mike Justice, Police Chief. Orsimer 26-74-47, second reading to approve purchase and replacement of obsolete stream sensors and software and to approve the related budget amendment for the drainage mitigation by R.T. Baldwin, Assistant Public Works Director. Orsimer 26-74-50, second reading to approve fees for the Recreation Department Youth Programs by William Porter, Parks Recreation Director.

Motion to approve.

Motion by Councillor Carmack. Second by Councillor Bryan. Discussion? All in favor say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed? Thank you. Now to Old Business. Orsmore 26-74-41. First reading to amend the future land use plan of the City of Lebanon, Tennessee by changing 65 and 85 Rutledge Lane from RPO Rural Preservation Open Space to CI Interchange Commercial in the Urban Growth Boundary. Request by James Orsmore. We approve. I have a motion by Councillor Bryan, and that motion dies for lack of a second. Now, number two, order number 267445, first reading to the Senate, order number 155030, relating to the city's annual contribution to Willis County for the Expo Center. So moved. Terminating future annual appropriations and payments and providing for an effective date by T. Bryan, Councillor, Phil Moorhead, Councillor. Second. I have a motion by Councillor Bryan, second by Councillor Moorhead, discussion.

OK. I just want to make a few comments on this. First of all, I want to commend my fellow counselors and support their effort to save the city money. As I said in the last meeting, I know Tick has brought this issue up in the past. So it's not something new from his standpoint. and certainly appreciate the effort to maximize our budget efficiency. I've already had some folks reach out to me in case we do rescind this, that they would be first in line to get the $100,000. So always good. I do question a little bit our timing on this. You know, again, I know something Tick has talked about before, but this came at a sort of an inopportune time with regard to having recently just passed a budget that we all agreed on. You know, we can change our minds. We certainly have the ability to do that. And we do it from time to time. I guess the concern to me is if we have issues with our financial relationship with the county, you know, I'm all for a work session or some other tool to use to look at, you know, the overall relationship. If we're waiving fees and they're not, for example, that's not a fair playing field. We need to operate on a fair playing field with the county. And so from that standpoint, I would certainly be open to that. The other thing, and this is just, You know, we all have to basically look at ourselves in the mirror, you know, and from my standpoint, I'm a 30 plus year banker. And, you know, I tell people every day that they should meet their obligations to the bank. You know, if I approved this, voted to approve this in a budget and, you know, the city said that it would continue to do this again, I know that we can change our minds and maybe we will choose to do that. But I struggle with this one and and I can't vote for it in its current form. Thank you, Mayor.

Thank you for discussion.

So what happens to the money if it is if we're not paying the county? Where does it go?

back into the general fund?

The general fund, I thought it was out of economic development's budget.

It's an economic development budget. It was placed there years ago before I was here. It did come out of another fund. It got placed there because that is, I guess I feel like it belonged in that budget. But as far as rescinding this, that money, you know, Lindsay's the finance director, but I believe it can go back into general funding wherever we need it to be.

It was budgeted in the economic development.

It was.

replace it go back in there because it's supposed to be used for tourism is that right it can't go back in i mean if we don't spend it then right and i guess well it doesn't matter um like i said i i i or i am going to abstain from voting because like chris i am not um I don't know that our attorney has looked at this. I feel like it's a financial obligation from the way I read it, but I'm not an attorney. We found out at the last meeting the $100,000 wasn't paid for last year. To me, that is an obligation as well. I believe in meeting our obligations. I am definitely open to talking about it in the future, but I don't think right now it's the time to do that.

Okay. Any further discussion?

yeah um you know what i co-sponsor on this and my feeling is when this was done probably 10 years ago there was a much greater need for that money now that the state fair has come to wilson county as well in the city of lebanon the state's pouring in millions of dollars as i said at the last meeting they paid for the maiden tennessee building they've done a lot of improvements they as they mentioned tonight the the money that's been donated i think the fair is standing in the fairground all on its own without our assistance and personally i'd rather see that million dollars of the next 10 years be used to pay down the debt for the renovation of the jimmy floyd center which is going to be a four million dollar tab or the second phase of that soccer complex uh or sports complex out there or a renovation or addition to the senior center where that money would be much more targeted, focused on the citizens of Lebanon as opposed to countywide and now what has become a statewide fair. So that's my opinion.

Anyone else? Okay. All in favor say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed?

Opposed.

Roll call there, Crystal.

Joey Carmack?

Yes.

Jerry Ashley? No. Camille Burdine?

Abstain.

Chris Crowe?

Opposed.

Brian?

Yes.

Phil Moorhead?

Yes.

Okay.

Motion dies. Okay. Thank you. Now to new business. Orders number 26, 74, 46. Motion to approve.

Second.

First reading to approve a donation to Change the Lives One Day at a Time, Inc. by Jory Carmack, Councilman. We have a motion by Councilman Carmack, second by Councilman Crowell. Discussion.

Discussion. So first of all, Joey, you did come to the budget meeting that night.

I wasn't on that one. No, I wasn't. I was on jury trial.

And Phil told you that we were voting on the nonprofits, and you said that's okay.

I'm going to call for the question. I mean, I'm not going to debate where I was, because I was in a jury trial. Okay. Well, let's forget that. I'm calling for the question, though.

But he calls for the question. That ends the discussion. So all in favor say aye.

Aye.

Opposed? Thank you. Resolution number 262875, to acknowledge the presentation of the report of debt obligation related to the general obligation for refunded bonds, series 2026B, refunding of the 2018 public safety loan and 2024 radio communications bond in the amount of $8,055,000 by Lindsey Wolfenbarger, finance director.

Motion approved. Second.

Councilor Crowell, second by Councilor Cormack, discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. Resolution number 262876 to approve the escrow agreement between James M. Bush Construction at the City of Lebanon, Tennessee and Wilson-Bacon Trust as escrow agent relative to the 2026 Natural Gas System Rehabilitation Project for Castle Heights and Indian Hills by Sue Ann Smith, accounting manager.

Motion approved.

That's my counselor crowds like my counselor Carmack discussion on privacy. Hi. Any opposed? Thank you. Versus 2628 77 to approve an agreement with the WSP USA Inc for programmatic scripting assistance and GIS operations support by Mike Cosworth, MIS director. Motion by Councilor Moorhead. Second by Councilor Crowell. Discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. Resolution number 262878 to renew the agreement with City Works for software products utilized by various city departments by Mike Collinsworth, MIS Director.

Motion to approve.

Motion by Councilor Carmack. Second by Councilor Crowell. Discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. Resolution number 262879 to accept the quote from Civic Plus for community development software for codes enforcement by Mike Justice, please. Motion approved. Councilor Moorhead. Second by Councilor Crowell. Discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. Resolution 26-2880, to approve the statement of work with Data Bank for on-base GCS upgrade assistance by Mike Consworth, MIS Director.

Motion to approve.

Last one, Councilor Crowell. Second, Councilor Carmack. Discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. Resolution 26-2881, in support of the annual observance of a day of prayer for our schools by Rick Bell, Mayor.

Motion to approve.

Carmack, second with Councilor Crowell. Discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. Resolution number 262882 to approve the Professional Services Agreement with C Spire Business for Block of Engineering and Hours by Mike Carnsworth, MIS Director.

Motion approved.

Councilor Crowell, second by Councilor Carmack, discussion. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. Resolution 26-2883 to approve totaling agreement with Ares entities relative to the gasification facility matter by Regina Santana, Utilities Director, and Stephen Chambers, Assistant City Attorney.

Motion to approve.

Second. Councilor Moorhead, second by Councilor Crowell, discussion. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. Resolution 262884 to approve the rental agreement for the rental of a centrifuge skid system for the wastewater treatment plant by Regina Santana, Utilities Director, and Jeremiah Exum, Wastewater Treatment Plant Manager. Motion to approve. Motion by Councilor Carmack. Second by Councilor Crowell. Discussion? I'm sorry. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. I got confused there for a second. We are adjourned.