County Commissioner & Board of Adjustment - Regular Meeting

This conference will now be recorded. Brandon, can you hear us? Yes I can. We need it for now.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation,

team justice for all all right we'll call the meeting in order of the august 11th lawrence county commission you uh do we have any additions correction to the agenda bruce mr chairman we did issue an amended agenda remove plat number 40 that will come up at your next meeting it'll coincide with the request or petition to vacate a section line as well one other note would be under the sheriff's time we're still working with the city of spearfish on the two agreements regarding the dispatching, et cetera. So those will be continued until the 25th. Okay.

Other than that, I don't think it changes. Motion to approve agenda. Second. Second. Then moved by Ewing, seconded by Tisdale to approve the agenda. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. And I just want to make note too that Commissioner Flanagan is not feeling well today, but he is joining us online. Any conflicts today? No. We all second. Do we have the regular meeting minutes from July 30th? Motion to approve. Second. And moved by Tisdale, seconded by Comer to approve the July 30th County Commission Minutes. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. You all had a chance, motion carries. You have a chance to look at the bills. Do we have any questions? Not today. Motion to approve the bill. Second. And moved by Ewing, seconded by Comer to approve the bills as presented. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed, nay. Okay. Any personnel requests?

I have just one today, Chairman. It's to approve the new hire of Don Lally as a part-time fill-in dispatcher to grade three at a base pay of $27.41, effective August 11th.

And to approve the request.

Second. Moved by Tisdell, seconded by Comer to approve the first dollar request as presented. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Okay, motion carries. We didn't have any travel requests, did we?

I have none, Chairman.

Okay. Auditor to account, Mrs. Frazier.

This is as of July 31st, 2026. Total amount of deposits in the banks is $22,873,037.19. Included in that balance are bank balance of $21,738,833.30. And then our money market account is $1,134,203.89. Total amount of actual cash is 1,350. Total amount of checks and drafts and treasures possession not exceeding three days is $95,569.06. cash, $7,183.29. Petty cash, $2,725 for a total of 22,979,864.54. We'll move to approve the auditor's account with the treasurer. Second. And moved by Ewing, seconded by Tisdale to approve the auditor's account with the treasurer.

All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. All right. Thank you. Saw a discrepancy there. All right. Resolution 202621 for setting off-sale electric licenses.

This is a resolution setting the fees for all of the licenses that are sold in Lawrence County. The ones closest to Spearfish, first class, this is liquor license, that's $1,500. Those with the current holders within the closest to the lead deadwood or whitewood, second class municipality are charged $1,200. The off-sale dealer's license, it's a $400 renewal. We still have some available there. And their new one is $27,000. And then the on-off sale one is $500 renewal. There is no one that opposes. I see a motion to have the chairman sign.

And these are the same amounts as they have been in the past. And I might also notice that the county does not designate first and second class cities. They are state classifications.

I make a motion for the chairman to sign.

Second. And moved by Coleman, seconded by Tisdale to approve resolution 2621, for the licenses and approve the, authorize the chairman to sign. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Okay, motion carries. I believe that brings us up to the sheriff. Good morning. Good morning.

As it turns out, a little bold, just a little bit. We have the accurate numbers for July, so July, show as our highest one in terms of revenue, we run in $267,277.52. So in terms of where we are over the year, our year to date is $1,473,483.82. If you don't count July or I'm sorry, January, because January was kind of a short month for us and then we had renegotiated So for the months that we've experienced that renegotiated rate, our average revenue stream per month is $214,240.45. This will put us on a pace, no guarantees, but just so you have a simple math would suggest that we're on a pace to be somewhere north of 2.4 million for the year. should that reveal itself would be 1,400,000 over our goal. So things are going well there. In terms of the rally, I know this is a subject matter that the board had been concerned about as well as some of the rest of us, but at the board's nest, we continue to try to get a handle on that situation. Rough estimates would be we had to move about 200 bikes yesterday. And that's just in the first attempt. It doesn't count what we had to do when we went back. I am happy to report that the owners of the boar's nest seem to be working with us, but I think it kind of puts to scale what we're trying to get our hands around, so to speak. I don't find it to be too dissimilar from the situation that we dealt with a few years ago at Devil's Bathtub, where it takes a while to figure out what's actually going to work. Perhaps one of the differences here was that this is a strong influx over a short period of time, and I would consider it to be somewhat exigent. No less so than our collective concerns over the fire danger. brings us kind of to a point that maybe Dr. Alka would talk about as well. But as we have tried to brainstorm on what we could do, I think the particular type of signage that sends a message as opposed to just a printed version might help people if we had it on either side, help those folks traveling through get slowed down and realize before they round the corner exactly what they're like. I admittedly don't know much about the purchase of those signs. I do not have, having spoken with John, I don't think it's something that, you know, we're going to run down to the local sign dealer and hook one up and get it here. But as we also have cool deadwood nights right around the corner, I think it would be smart to try to look into the purchase of a sign and get a little bit better defense towards what we're trying to control up there.

Mr. Chair? Yeah. So I think there's been discussions amongst the Sheriff's Office, Sheriff and John Bae and Paul about redeploying the two digital signs that we have. They're currently on 85 and everything down by Nemo. And I think Paul is willing to allow those to be moved up by the Boar's Nest and then work with John to replace them those other locations with the standard hard signs, at least for the duration of the rally, right? He's also checking to see if we can either rent or borrow a digital sign from somebody else. He's checking with the state. John Bay checked with City of Deadwood today. Everybody seems to have theirs deployed somewhere else. And so also he's looking at getting a price on one as well. And in that regard, I would mention that you do have, I think it's 42,000, I think in your commissioners contingency funds, those are funds that have already been levied for. And would you consider now or in the future authorizing us to buy one more digital sign so that we would have three. And we can come back with numbers obviously, but I don't know what the lead time is on getting one of those. And we'd probably like to have it by cool dead wind nights. And so anyway, I throw that out there if you're considering. What's the price? He's checking. We don't know. And I think you can spend probably as much as you want to. So we would get sort of more of a standard ones, I think. But I don't have a price. I may have one by the end of the meeting, but I don't have one now. What's a life worth? Well, yeah. And I think that's maybe I haven't deferred to Sharon, but you have people off their motorcycles, walking along the highway for quite a ways, half mile, quarter of a mile. I don't know how far they're out. And you've got the traffic coming around the corners there. And the idea would be to get them slowed down.

I think the reality that we all can understand is that we don't get to pick one exigent circumstance over the other. It's our responsibility to mitigate both. And we are working with one of our chief deputies come up with a plan. We're actually looking at posting a deputy up there. I might add a deputy we don't necessarily have to spare, but that's my assessment of the risk up there. So we're looking at two-hour shifts, just running everybody through eight hours to make sure that we can keep those thoroughfares open.

So is the risk being caused by the parking of the bikes out in the no parking area? That's correct. So can the sign also say no parking?

It's really, I wish it were that simple.

I don't know if that's a DOT thing. It's a state highway.

Yeah. And yet, we have good partnerships with the state. The shortest answer that I can give you, Commissioner, is that it's just not that simple. There are areas and there are ways that they can park that are perfectly legal. It doesn't mean that even legally parked vehicles necessarily provides a safe transition around those corners. So we can only deal with those that are parked illegally. And it takes a fair amount of foreboding to thoroughly get them through.

If they're parked outside the white line, they're legal, correct?

Yeah. And that's the difficulty. So that, yeah. And then you got to look for them up. Is there something we can do to create a guaranteed not to exceed at this meeting so they don't have

If you want to, again, I have no ballpark whatsoever to offer you. I can just tell you what your available funds are.

What I can find here is they're roughly around that $20,000, anywhere from $18,450 to $21,500, so anywhere in that $20,000.

That's the ones on the trailer?

Yeah, that's one just like what we have. Are there other times that they can be useful elsewhere? Can we use three all the time? Oh yeah, we can. In the highway department, we use them all the time. We advertise for chloride, we do it with two. We're all the time wishing we had more.

We don't know how long it takes to get them, I assume?

I don't have that information. Mr. Chairman, I think Paul got the last two by a grant and it took three years. Oh my. So he could pursue that again, but it would take three years.

It took three years to get the grant through.

Yes, yes.

So Sheriff, when you said you had to move 200 bikes, what does moving entail? What does that mean exactly?

I don't want to make light of it, but basically when a couple of uniformed deputies in marked vehicles show up with a wrecker and they start loading bikes up on the wrecker, there's a sprint to try to prevent your bike getting towed. So I don't mean to imply that the deputy physically touched 200 bikes, but that just gives you the scale of what they're dealing with up there. So it's a mad dash. Some bikes were colorful. Well, that's left up to the wrecker operator. Now, once the wrecker operator gets your bike up on his unit, it's going to cost you some money to get your bike off of that unit, but it doesn't necessarily mean that your bike goes to I said tow yard, so you can pay your bill on the spot and you can drop it down. Apparently that's acceptable. Yeah. I'm staying out of this one.

Well, I guess I think we'll probably continue to look into what it was assigned, what cost and how long it would take to get here. Okay. No sense that you can designate funds to get there. before we have that information.

Mr. Chair, I'm just going to try to just go by Louie's just now. And they've got some plastic sandwich boards sitting out on the highway. There are no parking spots as well.

Okay, thank you.

We'll report back.

If you have something for me, that's what I have. I appreciate your time.

Okay, moves us into the highway report, Mr. Bay.

Okay, I don't have the lot today. I do have a private approach permit. Ron Blum is requesting permission to improve an existing approach of the Galena Road. There is some adequate site distance for the location of the approach. There's already kind of a turnout there to this property. It's never been developed. But to actually improve that and turn it into a real approach, it's going to require some work. As far as site distance goes, the main concern is just some vegetation, just some light, brushy bushes and things like that. I did include that as a condition of the permit that all of that would have to be removed at the owner's expense to improve that site distance. And that's outside of the right-of-way, I assume? Much of it's outside of the right-of-way, yeah. It's on the inside curb, so I would say the majority of it's outside the right-of-way. But it would be sufficient. The site distance measure's fine now. You just have to look through the brush to see it, so it would have to be removed. And the other concern is it is in a floodplain, but the applicant has secured engineer services and has also applied for all the proper permits. He's done everything that was requested, and he's got the floodplain permit from Planning and Zoning, and he has also sent to me all of his 404 permits with the Army Corps of Engineers, and they have sized a culvert. I did leave it up to the applicant and the engineer to do the culvert sizing. And they've got that information. That was also a condition of the permit. The engineer will determine the culvert dimensions by hydraulic analysis. And then of course the approach will remain perpendicular to the building overall. And with all those being met, I would recommend approval of this application.

Move to follow recommendation. Moved by Tisdale and seconded by Kohler to follow highway superintendent recommendations and approve the approach permit. Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Okay, motion carries. That does bring me to a question, John, before you go on there. Sure. Just trees are brushed that are outside of the right of way, but do inhibit sight distance. Is there anything that, is the state law permitted doing anything about that?

It doesn't permit us to do anything about that outside of the right-of-way, but as far as a condition to any kind of a permit, I believe that is in our power to request and, I guess, require the removal of that brush to create the adequate amount of sight distance.

Yeah, I was just thinking about it. I pulled up to a stop sign the other day, and you kind of had to look around a tree to see if anybody was coming.

It's within the right-of-way, like on County Road, the state statute requires us to remove that, and we're pretty diligent in the winter months. We spend a fair share of our winter months clearing and cutting brush. We have run into some problems with Forest Service. The Forest Service doesn't quite agree with us what is considered brush within the right-of-way. They don't like us to cut trees, you know, full-size trees, anything six inches or larger, they would like a permit to cut. So we've kind of had arguments with them. But we've always been able to kind of come to an agreement. But yeah, I mean, state law requires us to clear the right of ways. Thank you. The other thing I have in here is it's time for our five-year highway bridge improvement plan, and we would like to schedule a public meeting for September the 1st. at 9 o'clock, so the first meeting in September.

So moved. Second. Moved by Tisdale, seconded by Ewing to set the public, our five-year highway bridge improvement plan public hearing for September 1st, 9 a.m. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Okay, time is set.

And it was, We did receive some information on that plat from the city of Spearfish that was brought in front of you in the last two meetings. Myself and Mr. Elkin went out there yesterday and looked and they have constructed or started to construct the road on the north portion of that section. The city did kind of, they did approve that plat. just the 33 feet of the section line being improved, which was consistent with our motion that we made last meeting, still kind of leaving just the consequence of who may be responsible for that section in the future. We did reach out to the developer. We've talked to him in the past about it, but I think there's a new solution possibly of vacating that section. So that's something that we're kind of looking into. And maybe Bruce could elaborate on that a little bit. But we haven't heard back from the city yet about that.

Sure. On the board is the e-blog from Jamia. And she might be online and or Peter too. We're a little early. But I think the city did approve the plat consistent with your motion at your last meeting to include obviously, for example, they say have a road maintenance agreement. And so this was kind of brought up, I think, at your last meeting, but this is a draft road maintenance agreement. It limits that portion of Centennial Road to the legal description in the document. So although we do maintain part of Centennial Road to the east, we have never maintained this section. So I think the differentiation is baked into the agreement, if that makes sense, with authorization to consistent with what the city approved to have the developer have Rory make sure that all of his buyers are aware of this obligation. It says that the county is not part of it. It's shared between those owners. And then if you are okay with that, and then the other thing is, bear with me, is to consider in the past, You have had, when people have improved a section line, you've made them enter into an agreement. An example is on the screen. Maybe that's not necessary now. Most recent example that I could think of was on the Crook City Road for development of that little bit of a section line. You kind of have already authorized it. You've said that the county has no intention of ever improving the road or maintaining it. That's what's language is kind of in this agreement. So it might be unnecessary. I don't know, I throw that out there for your consideration. And then as John Bay referenced, one thing might be either presently or in the future is to vacate that part of the section line that's being improved. That way the county is out of it, right? The road is otherwise publicly dedicated over top. So there's essentially two layers of public dedication on there. So if you vacate the section line, the other public dedicated right away still exists, right? But then our time to it is gone and it becomes in my mind, not unlike any other applied and subdivision road that you approve and apply. It's publicly dedicated and there's no issue of the county ever maintaining it for less. Yes, your commissioner does know.

Would vacating in that kind of clear us up going the rest of the way? I mean, it's on their master plan to do that road all the way across on that section line.

And if we vacate this, wouldn't we use that as tool there on?

And so there's really no question the county would have to ever do anything with that road. I like it. Now, that might, I don't know, that might impact leverage later on with a landowner, you know, to the east, for example, and say, well, we have this section line. We can put that in, whether you want to or not, or negotiate something different. Does that make sense? You know, from the county's perspective, I'd love to see it all vacated, and that just clears it up. But I don't know, again, if that's going to sort of affect the city or somebody else later on in the future. I think we're vacating this small piece. I would like to be able to recommend to the developer that he come in forthwith and get that process started. There he is. Hey, we're just talking about a couple of things, if I may, Mr. Chairman. Yes, go ahead. You worked with Eric to put together that, Maintenance agreement? Yes. I think the commission would like to have you go forward with that for all of your buyers. Okay. Perfect as is. The second thing is whether or not they want you to enter into an agreement to improve the section line. Of course, the work is underway. That might be not necessary in this instance. And then thirdly would be to pursue a vacation of that 33 feet. It's a process through the auditor's office. Brad can help you do an exhibit. It's relatively simple. We can visit more about that. And then the section line is gone. You're planted right away, remains, but then the county essentially is more or less out of the picture. Do you follow me on that?

Sounds good to me. That's great. Yes.

I don't really follow, so that sounds good.

No, I get it though, yeah.

Then the county's out of it. Who owns it? I think by statute, you own underneath of it, but there's a 66 foot right away over your neighbor's property and your property by statute. So if it gets vacated, that 33 feet, it's yours. This is with Eric, because he's your lawyer, but I think that's what the statute says. So if you split it up, it goes 33 feet this way, 33 feet that way to the extent of the property. Okay.

Sounds good. So separating the section line from the public right-of-way is where I'm confused. Yeah. So you can vacate a section line, but maintain the public right-of-way?

Yeah, because it's planted over top of it. It's dedicated by the plant. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, and so I think there was some confusion that by dedicating the right-of-way on the plat, that that somehow replaced or removed the section line. But I don't think that's the case. I think that the only way the section line goes away is if it's statutorily removed through the process. Otherwise, you have this double layer. And so what I'm talking about is, so I think the public dedication is 40 feet of 33 feet of that is the north part of the section line. So you would vacate that part of the section line in that 40 feet, so 33 feet of that. The section line on the north half, the south half would still remain. So you'd still have theoretically 33 feet there as well, unless you wanted to consider getting rid of the section line in its entirety for that stretch of the property. Does that make sense? I was just going to go with the 33 feet on Rory's property because that's what he owns. Okay. I don't know.

I'm throwing that out there for you. But the neighboring landowners on the other side should probably be notified, and they would give them the option to do their work.

Yeah, and you can reach out to them too and see if they would join. Is that possible, Murray?

Yeah, I know them both, so I could ask them.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't know what to say.

I just got to make sure that it's kind of clear that in protection of the county, for us to enter a road maintenance agreement on a section line, I don't think we have the ability to do that. But I think that's why going forward with this vacation makes kind of sense and it's good for the county. This road maintenance agreement, yeah, that's cool and it's great, but I don't know that we really have any kind of ability to enact that with a private developer.

Mr. Chairman, and I think this agreement is between Rory and whoever he sells the property to, so the county isn't a signatory to it, but it just assures that there's notice out there that the county is not going to have anything to do with this. So it's a layer of protection for the county, which it would only get better, I think, if that part of the section landed. Is that clear? Two things I think, Roy, is if you would make sure that the agreement, the maintenance agreement gets passed on to all your buyers. Yeah. And then we can work with the auditor's office about a petition to vacate.

Okay. Yeah, I'll start that right away. Okay. Sounds good. So we can sign it today? You need your exhibit.

Brad. Oh, I'll get it from Brad.

Okay, cool. All right, thanks. With the legal description. It's pretty easy. He's done it before, so he's aware of how it works. Okay, thanks, guys. Thanks a lot. Have a good day. See you around.

Anything else? I don't have anything else, unless you have something for me.

Home Stake Road, I got a call yesterday from Rolls. I spoke with him as well. I guess what I'm struggling with on that, they said that they had to do something real fancy on that north side in order to just extend the culvert and fill it in.

Well, because of the depth of it, the engineers are recommending some sort of piling. So after I spoke with Kroll yesterday, they were going to reach out to the engineer, and I have not heard back from either of them yet, but they're going to see if they can come to any kind of different solution.

I mean, back in the day, they filled that in to make the road that was there. I don't know what the issue is of extending that culvert.

Because of the depth, the amount for the angle of repose to hold the road up, it's going to be extremely far at the bottom. So I think that is the concern because of that depth. And that was the reason they wanted to go to the south to begin with, it's not as deep. No, it's not much different. I've been in both of them. Is that similar to what they're doing on I-90, close to the white width? Yes, it's very similar. It goes a long ways out there. Yeah, it would be the same process. For that, the angle of repose is what it's going to take for the width at the bottom to hold the amount of material for the depth that it has to, To the width at the top. So the deeper it is, the wider it's got to be. So it's a stability issue. Absolutely.

Well, I understand that, but it's certainly something that can be done.

Well, and like I said, when I spoke with both of them yesterday, they're trying to come to a solution. So we'll see what that is. I don't have an answer today. It can be done, it just needs to be done right. Anything else?

Thanks very much. Thanks, John. Have a great day. We'll take a little break here while Amber comes down and gets set up. I guess Jermia is here. Do you want to see if you have anything else to add?

Jermia, this is Bruce. Rory was in and I don't know if you had a chance to hear But I think we're good to go.

Glad to hear it. Thanks, folks.

Thank you for your time.

Thanks for watching! Okay, we will come back to order.

Next item is campaign sign ordinance 2603, is that correct?

Yep, this is the second reading. So you guys saw this at the last meeting, there was no changes from what I presented at that time. Bruce and I had gone through it and this is following current state law says for inside city limits and municipalities. We're just changing it to be out in the county.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but right now, because Lawrence County does not have this as an ordinance for the timing, we cannot enforce taking campaign signs down. Correct. Yes. That's why you're still seeing some campaign signs out and about.

And I will tell you if they're on state DOT right away, as far as I know, they won't touch them. That's what I've been told.

So what would we like to do? We can approve or disprove the signed ordinance today, says the secretary. Motion to approve. Moved by Ewing, seconded by Comer, to approve the signed ordinance as presented in previous meetings. Any other further questions or discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Okay, motion carries. Randy, go get a cup of coffee. and you want to grab a cup of coffee. So he'll be back momentarily, but we can wait. I guess so.

I'll mess this up, I don't know.

This time about this.

You're going next door to get. As soon as we get it brought up here, we'll start.

Thanks for stalling, Amber.

I'm trying, just for you.

You better set that on the table before you burn yourself. I'll burn you.

No, I want to stall it.

It's hot.

So this is the, where are we? Second reading. So this is the second reading for the changes zoning. There's really no changes from last time. The easiest, we had a hard time pulling up some of the documents because the files are so big on the computer. So I asked him to print so you guys have those. You can see the change of zoning location a little bit easier on there. It's on the upper, where are we? Right here. Yep. And then there's a map down there too. But it's just doing a change of zoning from the park forest to the planned unit development district, which is what the remainder of the Deer Mountain Village is. So it's adding in that acreage to the overall. And then as part of that, there's a whole write-up interview that you guys had from last time, so I'm not going to go through everything. But as part of that, you were able to also look at the development plan, which was in your prognosis packet. And then there is a big one here. We had a hard time getting it printed because it's so big. So this is the big one, everybody. It was also available online that you could download. That's the amended master plan. So keep in mind, you have the change of zoning first. And then as part of that, he's updating the master plan and the development agreement so that it's all cohesive between the whole development. So we want all of those pieces put together. So that's why we have the two different documents. So I think with this one, if you would decide to approve the change of zoning, we would want three motions. You want the change of zoning and the approval of the amended master plan. and then the approval of the final development agreement. So that's kind of what I have. Do you have anything to add?

Well, I don't have anything to add for the rezoning, but I do have some bullets for the other two items.

So I didn't know if you guys wanted to, usually you kind of do all three of them, but we do them separate. Did you want to talk about the change of zoning first?

Yes.

And then you can go into detail because he can provide some more information.

I think that would be the easiest way to keep all this straight. Yep. If we did the change of zoning first.

Yep.

Is everybody familiar with what we're doing here? We're just adding 61 acres into the planned unit of development. And it does not change the building rights?

Correct. The overall density.

Motion to approve.

Second. Then moved and seconded to approve the change of zoning, number 373. Any further questions? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Okay, that motion carries.

Now that we've picked up the master plan. The master plan.

We can do the master plan first, and then the development agreement.

Master plan would be the correct order. That would be the correct order. Because the development agreement is reliant on the changes on the end of the master plan. And the master plan, while you're bringing that up, if I may.

Yep, go for it.

If you look at the first 10 pages, I did it so you could see what the changes were. I didn't read the changes and the strikethroughs and reds, what's being omitted. Basically, it changes the language to include the 61 acres, and it reaffirms the dent that we cannot have any more than the 200 water taps, which 13 are dedicated to the clubhouse right now. So that leaves us with a remaining of 187. That has not changed. So that's the number of lots that we can final plat with the 187. So what will happen next is you'll start seeing preliminary plats come in and final plats come in, and when we get to that total, will stop and we'll either get to that total and not plat some because it'll stay green space or make the lots bigger or combine lots. We've already combined like six lots and we've created three new. So we'll be all tracking that 187. The only thing that can change on 187 is if you read the water agreement, it speculates that it will need 13 for the clubhouse. And until that's confirmed, three could become available if those three come become available and 10 or only needed will come to you. Because the earlier master plan showed some townhouses and other things down in this area in block A1, and those are removed and it's mentioned they're removed in this document. So the development plan for the clubhouse has been approved, but it didn't include any of those multifamily residences or townhouses or anything. So if we do anything down there to develop that further, to come through the process again, we dedicate a certain number of taps and we get a new development plan approved. So the point is the county haven't always has the seat at the table to decide what we're able to do managing the 187 taps. I'll remind you that this development originally when it was Mystic Minor had 489 lots. And so we're doing 187. and we've added now 180 acres to it. So the density is much less than that original PUD and it's engaged. The other one would have never come to fruition just because of the infrastructure. Now we have one that's working real well. So with those nine pages of changes and then this new map, that was the change in the development plan. Then you go to page about 85 and it shows the new road design in the 61 acres and the water design in the 61 acres. then that's also in there. So that's additional appendix to it. And if you go through those digitally, you'll see the appendix of change are in red too. So if it's approved, I will take the red out and present that to Planning and Zoning so they have enough record. I just thought it's easier for you to understand what we've done by having it that way.

Is this the road that comes up through here? That you spoke of?

Deer Mountain roads. Okay. Yeah, the Summit Road. Cherry Summit Road.

Cherry Summit's right in the middle. And that's where John's been watching, like along Summit Road, the different access points.

Yeah, and we knew up front, and it was discussed when we came forward, that there would be limited approaches. Right now, I think we have two on the east side and one pending. and three on the west side, one was there before. So we limited that. We built two parallel service roads, service lots to keep the traffic coming into other traffics.

So Randy, looking at this plan, there was stormwater designs for this area. Did that- It's in the road, that's right. Making sure that they plan for that into the system.

And when we come through with the preliminary plan next month, we'll have updated water plans that we're waiting for the DANR.

So there's going to be some edits, typically a few edits when it's approved.

And then we're working with the sanitary district. They review it as well as DANR because it's their water. And I will note that This is the only subdivision that I know in the county that has the 1,200 gallons a minute required by the ordinance for fire protection on structures. The fire hydrants have that capacity. So that's the development, or the, excuse me, master plan.

Does everybody understand the master plan? Had a chance to look at it? Are you comfortable with the decision today? You need another week to look at it? Motion to approve the master plan. Second. And moved by Ealing, seconded by Comer to approve the updated master plan for Deer Mountain Ranch. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed nay? Okay, motion carries. The development agreement.

The development agreement is updated to reflect the additional of the 61 acres It's been floating around for Bruce to review for quite a while. I don't know if he has any comment. No comment. Is it ready for us to sign if they approve it? Okay. So it basically encompasses everything we talked about earlier. It changes the development agreement to include those documents.

I think for signature-wise, we would have Randy take it to have Keating sign, and then we'll get it from you. I think in the past you've done that. When we get, yeah. I'll just stop over and find it and then we can probably catch you on there. Okay.

So the motion is to include authorization. Yes, please. Make a motion for Commissioner Dunning to sign the agreement. Second. And moved by Comer, seconded by Tisdale to authorize the chairman to sign the general development agreement for here at Mountain Village. Any further discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Motion carries. Thank you, gentlemen. If you have any questions, let me know.

Mr. Chairman, I think Amber can have you sign it now so that it's ready.

I'll find you if I can print one.

So moving on, I think you saw a copy of this. The effect is provided. I think we're making good progress on noxious weeds for these plats. Moving on to 202638 for preliminary and final plat.

All right, so this one is just a lot line adjustment. They purchased the neighboring lot and want to combine it in with their existing lot. So you can see the former lot line is right here. There's a garage that sits on this other building, but it's been there a long time. The garage has this person purchased it. They're just combining it all together.

So we're just making two lots into one?

Yep.

Motion to say, second. Second. Moved by Tisdale and seconded by Ewing to make the flat exempt for All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed, nay. Motion carries. Motion to approve the preliminary and final plat. Second. Moved by Tisdale, seconded by Comer to approve the preliminary and final plat. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed, nay. That motion is approved. 39.

This one is also a lot line, lot line revision between two lots. You can see here, it's adding in this little tiny piece. It's due to a building that they want to put in. They couldn't make the setback from their old property line, which was here. So they purchased some property from the neighbor to make it work. And they're just redoing the two lot lines.

Changing a straight line into a job. Yes.

It bothers Eric that it's not a straight line.

Someone brought a key line.

Yes.

Motion that it's exempt. Second. Moved by Tisdale, seconded by Ewing to make it exempt. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed nay. Okay. That is exempt.

Okay.

What do we want to do on the lot line? Motion to approve the preliminary and final plan. Second. Moved by Tisdale, seconded by Kohler to approve the preliminary and final plan. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed nay. Okay, that motion carries. You're ready with number 41? Yep. Okay, go ahead.

The next one is a lot in Wilderness Estates. That was one of the original subdivisions within Powder House Pass. There's an existing house on one lot, lot eight, and they would like to purchase lot nine and combine them into one lot. So it'll be lot 8A. It's actually decreasing density in the overall subdivision.

So it's just two lots into one? Two lots into one, yep.

Move to approve the preliminary and the final.

Second. Moved by Flanagan, seconded by Tisdale to approve the preliminary and the final. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay? It was just Brandon, it wasn't Connor.

It's okay.

We had a jump over here.

All right.

So number 42.

If this one is final plat within Black Hills Properties, which is Auburn Acres, Potterhouse Pass, they are doing final lots within that subdivision. They meet all of the requirements, fire plans in place, infrastructure, bonding, all the fun stuff. It's just a final, because it met the preliminary.

Motion to approve the final. Second. Moved by Ewing, seconded by Comer to approve the final plat. Any further questions or discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed, nay. Motion carries. It's also approved. Number 43.

This one is for Spirit of the Hills Wildlife Sanctuary, Mike Wyczynski. He is breaking off a portion that's right up here in the corner. So we're the intersection of McGuigan, North Rochford, sorry, North Tintin Road, North Tintin Road, Tintin Road and then Tintin Road where it all comes together. It's up here in the corner. It does meet the requirements of the park forest.

I don't want to find that, that's not going to work.

Of the, let's try this one. Must've got moved, okay. So with this, You'll have to, I guess, look at your actual staff report. I can't pull them up. There you go. So this is the corner. Here's all the roads. So McGuigan Road, North Tintin Road here, and then Tintin here. It's five acres. It meets the requirements of Park Forest. 25 foot setback all the way around is showing. We have had a few discussions with people asking about this lot because there is that major power line that runs through it. So there's an easement. So if something were to be built on this, they're going to have this easement deal with too, plus you have a section line here. That's just what it is, but they just know going into it, everything's showing on the map. I did talk to John Bay regarding access to this lot. They have not submitted, you know, an access permit yet. They can at some time. We don't have to have it on here. It's just he is aware of it already. He had kind of said that his intention, you know, would probably be somewhere in here so that so it meets across from each other if there was something, but they have not asked for anything yet. But he is aware of it and he signed a plat already, so. And that's covered with the building permit? Yeah, well, we would require them to show, you know, have their access permit anyways. So he knows that he'll have to go there.

We need to prove the preliminary .

Second.

Moved by Fisdell, second by Comer to approve the preliminary and final PLAT for 202643. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. It's approved.

Last one is also a plot line revision. Preliminary and final, it's a little jog again.

Just straighten it up.

Yes, it does straighten. It makes the non-straight line a straight line.

This was the old analogy.

Second.

Moved by Ewing, seconded by Dizdale to approve the preliminary and final. Exempt. Exempt is what you were doing? Yes. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Okay, that's it, it's exempt. Now I'll make a motion to approve the preliminary and final. Second. It's been moved by Ewing and seconded by Comer to approve the preliminary and the final PLAP for the 26-44. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed nay? Okay, motion carried.

I think that's all the time.

Thanks, Gary and you. Thank you, Andrea.

Do you have that other one? Bruce, did you get that? Yeah, Brenda's next. That's up to Bruce now. So we continued the preliminary budget

Our provisional budget from last time, just hoping that we'll get some more numbers. Any insurance numbers?

Yes, Chairman, we did. So we did make a motion to approve the provisional budget at the last meeting. Since then, the past weekend, I received the updated health insurance for 2027, and it came in at 1.25% increase. We do have an insurance committee meeting on Thursday. and the 13th. So I went ahead and updated the budget with a 2% health insurance increase. So I was just wondering if I could have a motion to amend the 2027 provisional budget with a 3% cost of living, 2% health insurance increase and set the public hearing for September 1st, 2026 at 930 for the consideration and the adoption of the 2027 annual budget. Also, as you can see, with the decrease from, I had originally a 10% in there. I now have the 2%, which got rid of the 113,000 that we were over. So the budget is now balanced with the revenues and the budget request. So that was a good amount to get this past weekend.

Significantly less than our last year's increase. Appreciate all the employees being healthy, taking care of themselves. So moved. Second. Then moved by Flanagan, seconded by Tisdale to amend the budget to reflect the updated insurance costs and sleep at that. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Okay, carries. Approved as amended. Thank you very much. So that can get published, is that correct?

We'll get it sent to the paper once we adjourn today.

Okay. And then that budget is back for a public hearing on September 1st. That was all you had, wasn't it? That's it.

Thank you, Chair.

We're up to the Spirit Free Senior Center, request for a mining severance tax funds. I don't see if Stephanie's here yet.

Yeah, go ahead. We're working with Bob's, Randy's recommendation. And if you could just give us your name. My name's Doug Schmidt, 306 Pauley Drive, and I'm a member of the board of the Senior Center. Thanks, Doug.

So, Randy, would you like to begin? Well, yes. Randy Divert, 1715 Scott Avenue. I'm on the steering committee for the building fund. And we had talked to you last meeting about having some of the severance tax money apply to this once we get to a certain point, have a trigger on our fundraisers. The request was for $100,000. If you want to get more, that's just fine. But it's roughly a $3 million budget, and we would like that pledged and then triggered when we get to a certain point, is what we suggest.

So as one of the conditions for using mining severance tax money, it needs to do something to stimulate the economy. How do you see this project stimulating the economy of Lawrence County? Subsection two of the statute.

If I may, Mr. Chair? Sure. Obviously, this is a place that's open to the public and rented to the public for events, which brings people to town. It keeps the seniors locally, spending their money locally. And it supports not only Spearfish, but the surrounding area, retail trade area. And so it does put money into the economy by people coming to town and participating in their events. Good answer.

We're also looking at adding events to the center. One was pickleball. It's a growing sport and we're looking at an indoor facility. It won't be anything real fancy. We use the floor down the lines and we would use it at that time at different times, but we could still set tables and chairs on it. And we're just looking at it. Our senior citizens are changing in their complexity. The new senior citizens are, active they're walkers they're pickleball guys people and they're just more they're different and more so we're looking to accommodate the need for those people and to that the new facility offers a lot more opportunity for programming to expand the program yes up on the board uh our minutes from a prior meeting uh where the cursor is at

is how you handled the request from the LEED Community Center, and then down below is how you handled the request for the Whitewood Community Center. So, I'll make it bigger.

Thank you.

This one, and then the bottom.

I highlighted, but you can't really see it. That's how you did it. So you need a motion. Okay, I'll make a motion that we, pledge $100,000 out of the interest for the mining severance tax fund for the purposes of the new senior center and the five-year, how do I, what's the correct way to?

What's the dollar amount they gotta raise?

Three million? 3.5. would have to have that 3.5 raise within five years, according to how you've done it in the past.

Yeah, that was my mistake. Okay. Okay, it's been moved by Young, seconded by Tisdale to approve using Mining Severance Tax Fund interest to pledge to the Sperry Senior Center of $100,000 contingent on the raising 3.5 million for the project in five years. That's correct. Yep. Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay? Okay, motion carries. Gentlemen, thank you so much. Yes, thank you. All right, next we have Jeff Schroeder, Deputy Code Enforcement. We also need to recess the County Commission and reconvene as Board of Adjustment.

We can recess as County Commission and reconvene as Board of Adjustment.

Second. Then move and second it Recess, County Commission and Convenient Board of Adjustment. All those in favour, say aye. Any opposed, nay.

At this time, do you want to approve the... We do. Let's make a motion to approve the minutes for Board of Adjustment from last meeting.

Just a second. Yeah. It's been moved by Ewing, seconded by Tisdale to approve the Board of Adjustment meetings from July 30. All those in favour, say aye. Any opposed, nay. Okay, those minutes are approved. All right, now you're up, Jeff.

All right, that's manual reviews for you to take care of. The first few are some second residences. First one is for 417 Donald Kissick. It's in place and still being used as it was intended, so no complaints. We will recommend a review in another 12 months. CP416, Sherry Anderson, is the same way. Parents are living in a second residence as per the conditions. No complaints. We will look at it in a year. 402, Nicole Cook. It is currently used as being, as it was permitted. I have talked to her more than one time on this. So far, everything is still going as it should, so we'll do another review in 12 months. And 381 Riddick, no changes, everything's, no complaints, everything's still being used, and we will look at that in 12 months as well. Oh, I guess I have one more. Excuse me. 380-20, the Winberg, that is also still being used as intended, and we will look at that again in 12 months. Before I get into the next set, which is our the gravel pits and that's from the Johnner ones that they run. You should have in your packet an email that I got from Brett Graves from the state DNR stating, I've said two different ones and I get the same answer each one, and that is we do not have any construction ever in mind license violations. So the state has none. I've asked him on two different occasions 456, this is the Eaton pit. Following conditions, no complaints. So I've attached their annual review, each one of these for you to look at. 435 Canyon Creek, same thing. This is Charles Edwards, no changes, they're following policy, and no complaints, so we'll look at that again. 373, the Herm pit, again, no changes, and we'll look at it again next time, and their annual report is attached with all of them. So if we don't have any questions on those. As you're also aware, last, the third received a formal complaint on the crow larson pit had a wind storm kind of come up all of a sudden uh we received it late in the day i called uh ryan marshall from coal right away um he had also spoken with commissioner ewing um they shut it down about 3 30 and we're sprinkling it as we speak so i called uh our played her back, Kristen, and explained what was going, that has been taken care of. She seemed very appreciative of that. On the fourth, Bruce and I called Brian again and kind of talked to him through what happened. And he said he would send an email or someone would, with a response of what happened and also some DDNR reports and other findings that have. So that has been, I believe that's been sent to you as well. So they have passed everything from the state. Apparently no silica was found on site. And they have, I think they learned a little bit of a lesson and they're working to do better. The state actually came out and did opacity readings. They did, yep. One thing, if you read that, when they go to shut down, they can't just all of a sudden flip the switch, shut it off. It takes a little bit for it to,

I have to run the conveyors empty basically. Is there a question?

No, I was just going to comment. I was up there when raking hay when that freak wind showed up. And I mean, it was, it destroyed my project at the same time. And of course I looked over because it's right across the road from me. They were in the process of shutting down, doing everything that they could. You can't plan for a wind event like that. I mean, it just, it was there just now and very strong. So I think they've done the best they could to take care of it.

I think this demonstrates also that we have a process and a protocol for complaints and what happens, and it was resolved very quickly. She seemed very pleased how quickly we jumped on it. Yeah, she commented that to me too. And I will also mention that Brian Marchant offered to come up and do a further explanation today. I told him that wasn't necessary, or we conveyed to him that that wasn't necessary, as he will be here in September doing a regular report. So we'll probably address it at that point. But like I said, it was pointed out, he did send an email just to explain what happens. And that was a ferocious win that hit all of a sudden. Yeah, right.

I just want to make sure everybody's aware of what was going on. On a quick side note, I just, I left a message. I tried to call Dale Peters to tell him that this was discussed this morning. He was not there, so I left a message on his phone. His neighbor crossed the highway. He's come and talked to you before.

Thank you.

Nothing else. That's all I have.

Thank you. Do we need to approve those? Not the ones that do anything. We would need to adjourn the Board of Adjustment.

Make a motion to adjourn the Board of Adjustment and reconvene as County Commissioners.

Second. Moved by Comer, seconded by Ewing to adjourn the Board of Adjustment and reconvene as County Commission. All those in favor, say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed, nay. Okay, we'll move on to SB 96, property tax relief. Have a copy provided of an ordinance that we would be proposing. I will do the first reading on that ordinance today. And I will also welcome any public comments on that ordinance. Bruce, do you want to go through the ordinance? Would you like me to? This is an adaptation of the model that the state set out. We did incorporate some amendments that both Pennington and Mead County have placed in there just to clean up some of the language for the purpose. And then also add in section six of the county administrative fee, just to spell out in the ordinance that the county has the opportunity to take up to 2% of the sales tax collected the first year for software improvements that will need to be made and also extra staff time as we figure out how to adopt the credits on there. And then there's also $20,000 a year after to make up for the extra staff time that will be involved. I think those are the major differences from the model. It just establishes a half percent sales tax on grocery seats on all items, goods and services that municipalities get. Starting January 2027. Yep, starting January 1st, 2027. Any other comments or anything that I missed on the ordinance? So the process, of course, is we could do a first reading today and then set a second reading time. If there's any public comments, I would welcome them now. As with always our public comments, we welcome your public comment. We ask that as you do, please focus on respect, clarity, and adherence to procedure while keeping your comments to three minutes or less so that we may capture it in the minutes. Please give us your name and address. While making the comment, please be concise, state your specific comment, avoid personal attacks and profanity, and follow the chair's guidance, remembering that we are listening, but typically not engaging in back and forth dialogue during public comment, as the goal is effective communication, not debate. Any volunteers? Representative Fitzgerald.

Thank you, Representative Mary Fitzgerald, 11212 and 196th Street, St. Onge, South Dakota. As a member of the House of Representatives, I would urge you to please pass this. Throughout the last legislative session, we heard from people all over the state asking us for a review. Senate Bill 96 is Governor Roden's bill that was passed by the legislature in an effort to try to help those people that are in need of a reduction in their property taxes. We heard from a lot of elderly people that are really struggling to stay in their homes. And we think that this is a good solution and that I would urge you to please vote for this. Thank you.

Thank you. Anybody else in the audience that would like to comment on the county sales tax? Mr. Chairman.

Senator Divert. Thank you, Randy Divert, Senator of District 31. I really have a question that I would like answered. Is it your intent to collect the money and then distribute it, not estimate?

That portion is not in the ordinance. I think that's probably a separate decision. So that will be... Which has not been discussed yet.

Okay. Well, I would just say that I think it's important to be cautious with that because you can't predict that very well. Right. and the estimates we have are just that, estimates. So my thought would be if you invoke this to collect the money before you distribute it, not speculate that. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner Tisdell, do you have a comment?

My intent is to collect it.

I just have a question for, I would be interested in seeing what the actual monthly saleable tax volume is in Lawrence County, last 10 years. Do you guys have that information? Go ahead.

Thank you. Well, the estimate is $6 million a year. Okay. And where that comes monthly, I don't think they have that information. Right now, when you report your sales tax, you don't identify what county that you're submitting from, okay? But you submit a city and the 4.2 for the state. So I talked to the Department of Revenue. They're developing a new form. that when you report your sales tax, every county you work in, you will now report that. That's what I talked about, but it's not an exact number. The estimate was six million for Lawrence County, but we won't know how that comes in monthly until we go through it in a year or so. You know the markets here as well as I do. We have four seasons. Yeah, they're up and down. Four seasons.

That's why I'm interested, particularly season-wise, what that means for the county. I mean, because like last winter was pretty dry compared to previous winters. I mean, but then I take things in that are happening in the summer. So that's why I'm interested to see if anybody has that information available on a monthly basis so we can see what the trends are.

I think the only way you can maybe do that is to look at the city sales tax that they get monthly, three cities that are collecting most of it. And then you can see, okay, this is what they've collected. at their two cents, and then you can extrapolate it from there. That might be the only source you have currently.

And I do think things will change, and we'll get more exact on that when that information is available, because we were, you know, are all interested in that. But I would just say that any relief at all is absolutely necessary.

Well, and again, I'm going back to, it's not a release, it's a transfer. 21% of somebody's liability and transfer it to others to pay that.

So yeah, I disagree with that.

Well, it's a tax shift. It's a tax shift, yeah.

And may I just add to that, if I would have the opportunity to? In the state legislature, we have said that tax shift has already occurred, and that has occurred to the homeowners of our state. We pay far more tax than any other group, and so That is why we say that that shift has .

Well, I looked at the tax rate for Lawrence County throughout the state, and it's number 60, if I was 66. So it's low, with average home value number three in the state of Lawrence County.

Well, and I would disagree with that, because I hear from a lot of people that are paying well over $1,000 to $2,000 a month in property taxes.

I just went by what I saw in the tax rate that was supposed to .

Okay, anybody online that would like to comment?

Go ahead, ma'am.

My name is Rose Burns. I live at 3 South Main in Leed, and I agree with Mary. This is something that has to happen for the homeowners. We were hit, we were impacted with COVID-19 to the extent of people coming in and buying up property and paying exorbitant prices. I mean, they've paid, I've lived in LEED all my life. It's amazing what they pay for these homes. And the taxes are something that continue to go up all the time, which is great if you sell your house, because the way the county assesses property is based on sales, and that sales just keeps going up and up and up. When you say it's a tax shift, I think it should be a tax shift. The people that are coming here and developing and vacationing and whatever, they use our roads, our infrastructure, everything as much as anyone else does that lives here. And we've continued to pick up that burden. This shifts some of the burdens to them. And I'm going to honestly say that I don't think they're going to notice the increase. There's many of them that come here, obviously with a lot of expendable cash on their vacation, they won't even know you. put a half a cent tax on it, they'll just go on with what. But I think it's something, it's a step in the right direction, definitely. Thank you. Thank you, Rose.

Mr. Chairman. Yes. Just would add a few notes, if I may, Senator Randy Divert. It's important to note that Lawrence County does have one of the lowest levies in the state for the county tax. It's 2.81 roughly. And that's where the relief is coming from this sales tax shift. There will not be relief at the city mill levies or the special levy. So those people that live in the city limits, Fairfax has roughly a 1.93 mill levy, Deadwood and Leed are both four plus. There's not going to be a property tax relief there. And there's not going to be property tax relief through this effort at the school district level with that mill levy from the state for the general fund and the Special ed is about 4.16. Senate Bill 245 will give relief there. So those that live in the city limits will not see as big a percentage decrease in their taxes as those that live solely in the county. And that's because of the mill levies of the city. So there's no relief at the city mill levies through this action. Right.

This is only the county portion of property tax.

Yes.

Thank you.

oh yes sir yes sir i'll be very brief uh charles eagleson deadwood residents deadwood city commissioner i just mostly want to commend the county commission for taking this matter up as early as they're doing before because we start our budget hearings obviously at the end pretty soon at the end of the month and going on through the end of the year so that the sooner we know what's going to be happening and on the tax thing i'm not real about senate bill 96 it helps us over the city up at the time that you are. Thank you. Thanks, Merle.

We've heard from everybody. Anybody else? Last call. Oh.

I just have a couple questions. Sure. It's just, so my name is Jasmine Polly. I've met most of you before. I'm representing Workforce Resources. We have kind of just generally trying to understand how this would affect us. And just to clarify, I wanted to understand running some numbers. This is just purchases that are from inside the county? Like if we go down to Lynn's and we buy something, is it a purchase for everything that we consume or use in Lawrence County or just on the things that we buy in Lawrence County?

So it's only the things that you would purchase in Lawrence County. It's point of sale. Point of sale. Is what it is. And it only applies to goods and services that are included in the municipality. Like machinery, for example, I don't think that that would apply. Health insurance type or health items don't apply. Those are probably the major two, aren't they? So anything you pay tax on when you go to the cities, you would pay the county sales tax. That's helpful.

Yeah, that's very helpful. I'm sorry I was late. I didn't think we were doing this till 10, but- Yeah, we're just little ahead. All good. Do you know how much you would anticipate pulling in?

The estimates are right around 6 million. The 2024 estimates were a little under. The 2025 estimates were a little low. 26 estimates are just a smidgen above 6 million.

That's from the Department of Revenue.

Sure.

Yes. In real time, one of your listeners has provided this, returns from 2025.

And so there's numbers there. Lawrence County.

So the columns are what? I'm sorry. So gross sales, use taxable, and taxable sales. So the last column is what we'd be looking at mostly. Is that correct? It's taxable sales, right?

Yes. So it's the third column? Yes. So it'd be this column right here. I appreciate Jeff for sending that. Yeah, we'll send that. Thanks. And I can print it off if you want me to right now. Want me to?

It'll take me a little bit. So the revenue we would be generating would be 0.5% of the number that we're calling. But you bring up a good point, Jasmine. It does affect large businesses. I thought about that in my agricultural business. It's been a lot of money that would be taxed.

I mean, when you compare it to the increase that Blackburn Electric is giving us, it's like a drop-off.

Way to be optimistic about it.

Yeah, I try.

You can write that off, too, if you have a business where you're an individual homeowner.

Sure, yeah. I think for us, it's understanding. Obviously, we're trying to ensure that our business is economical for the long run. And anything to our bottom dollar will affect my life. So just trying to make educated decisions.

Yes.

Any other questions? Last call online? Okay. We will move on. When do we want to set our second reading? Do we want to schedule it for the next meeting? Yes. I think we should. Okay, we will schedule that. Probably need a motion for that.

This second reading will be held August 25th at 945. It doesn't need a motion. It doesn't need a motion.

Okay, we'll just nail her down. Apparently, approximately 945. Is that correct? Am I reading that correctly?

That's what he had listed on the agenda.

Okay, here we'll take a few minutes.

Okay.

Okay, moves to send items from the public. Is there any unrelated items that the public would like to mention? Do you have something, Senator Dyer? No, thank you.

You can vote yes on 96.

All right, we will close the public comment period then. Anything from the commissioners?

Nothing. Nothing here?

What do I do either? Commissioner Flanagan, I assume, does not either. Did we lose him? I do not, thank you. He is still there, yep. All right, with that, I would entertain a motion to adjourn.

Motion to adjourn.

We are adjourned. Thank you everybody for your participating and for your comments.