City Government - Regular Meeting

Good evening. Call to order and welcome to the Laramie City Council regular meeting for Tuesday, May 19, 2026. And if you would like to join us in the Pledge of Allegiance. City Clerk, if you can please call the roll.

Bolling. Absent. Freed. Absent. Lockhart.

Here.

Newman. Here. O'Doherty. Here. Shumway. Absent. V. Hill. Absent. Richardson. Here. Cumbee.

Here.

That's five present and four absent, Your Honor.

Thank you City Clerk and we have a few counselors that are off at conferences learning more about how to be better counselors and family matters so but we do have quorum. Is there any public comment on non-agenda items? Seeing none. I'm gonna ask if there's, before I ask this, I'm going to tell you we've made a couple of changes to the agenda in pre-council. The first change that we made was to move item 9K, which is our resolution to establish open container area in the downtown district. We have moved that off the consent agenda and that will now be item 11 E and we have added an item that mistakenly got left off and that is the agreement for transfer of entitlements for the Laramie Regional Airport and you'll hear more about that. So with that said, is there any public request to remove a consent agenda item and place it on the regular agenda? Yes, sir.

Hi, Jerry Gruber. Yes. 9H, I was at the county commissioner's meeting this morning. They had the same thing on their agenda for 1.2 million. So I would just like clarification on 9H, what that is.

All right. Do I have support from a counselor on that?

Mayor, is it possible to just share what that is rather than moving it to and then see if that provides enough information? Is that doable? sure that's fine so this is the route that is already in place and is a continuance of the bus route that's already in place so no changes nothing new just a continuance of the bus route that the public can use that UW provides isn't in place so what is the city's cost then the county's was 1.2 million something should be in the oh thanks for having that right on hand

I may be able to clarify hopefully this a little bit and police is here but I believe the thing that was in front of the commissioners was probably for our safety action plan that is we're partnering with the county on. The one that is here tonight is for the police radio system.

I was reading the wrong one Jerry, I apologize, I was looking at the bus route one, I apologize. No problem.

Thank you very much.

Mr Gruber, does that satisfy your question or did you want it moved?

I guess my question would be, the county had 1.2 million, what's the city's contribution towards that? Same thing, was it a match or?

Should we just move it? Should we just move it? I think we just need to move it. We'll move it.

Thank you.

Do I have a second?

Okay.

I have a public request to move an agenda item and I have support from Councillor Newman. That item will now be 11F. So 9H will now be 11F.

Mayor, I'm willing to read that if you want.

Okay, thank you. Sorry, it takes a little bit to catch up with all this stuff. Okay. Vice Mayor, if you can motion for the changes to the agenda.

Thank you, Mayor. I move that the following changes to the agenda be approved to add to the regular agenda item 11ai, agreement for transfer of entitlements fiscal year 26 Laramie Regional Airport to Northeast Wyoming Regional Airport and to remove item 9k from the consent agenda and place it as item 11e. on the regular agenda and remove item 9H from the consent agenda and move it to 11F on the consent agenda.

I have a motion from Richardson, second from O'Doherty. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? That motion passes. Vice Mayor, if you can motion to set the agenda. I move that the agenda be set as changed. Second. I have a motion from Richardson, second from Newman. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? That motion passes. Next we'll move on to our proclamations for this evening. We have two. Our first is the proclamation for National Public Works Week. Whereas public works professionals focus on infrastructure facilities and services that are of vital importance to sustainability and resilient communities and to the public health, high quality of life and well-being of the people of Laramie. and whereas these infrastructures, facilities and services could not be provided without the dedicated efforts of public works professionals who are engineers, managers, operators and employees at all levels of government and the private sector who are responsible for rebuilding, improving and protecting Laramie's transportation, water supply, water treatment, solid waste systems, and other structures and facilities essential to our citizens. And whereas it is in the public interest of the citizens, civic leaders, and children in Laramie to gain knowledge of and to maintain a progressive interest and understanding of the importance of public works and public works programs in their respective communities and whereas the year 2026 marks the 66th annual National Public Works Week sponsored by the American Public Works Association, Canadian Public Works Association. Now therefore, I, Sharon Cumby, Mayor and President of the City of Laramie, Wyoming City Council, do hereby proclaim the week of May 17 through 23, 2026 as National Public Works Week. Thank you. Good evening, Director Webb.

Good evening, Mayor Council. Thank you. I didn't have a big long speech prepared tonight. We talked at the budget work session last week about all the good things the folks over in Public Works are doing. I just wanted to publicly thank all 85 of our staff members and thank you for your support of Public Works. So thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. And would you like to come get your proclamation?

Sure. I don't need a picture.

We need a picture. That's right.

We need a picture.

That's how we roll.

Oh, yeah, I get the red. Oh, good.

Oh, look at you guys.

Color coordinating. You come this way.

I'll come this way. This is where I am. This is the spot. There we go. That's a lot easier for me.

He did make him move. There we go. All right, gentlemen. Good job. Thanks, Eric. Appreciate you.

Thanks, Eric.

So our next proclamation is for building safety month. And whereas the City of Laramie recognizes that growth and strength depend on the safety and reliability of our homes, buildings, and infrastructure, and whereas this resilience is ensured by dedicated professionals, including building safety and fire prevention officials, architects, engineers, builders, and tradespeople who work year-round to construct safe buildings. And whereas these professionals are supported by the International Code Council, a non-profit that develops and implements high-quality codes and standards to protect the public, and whereas modern building codes safeguard communities from hazards such as hurricanes, snowstorms, tornadoes, wildland fires, floods and earthquakes and whereas building safety month sponsored by the international code council highlights the essential role of code officials in ensuring safe and sustainable and affordable buildings and we're as building safety month provides an opportunity to recognize the commitment to improving safety resilience and investment in our communities and to acknowledge the vital service of building safety and fire prevention officials. Now therefore, I Sharon Cumby, Mayor and President of the City of Laramie City Council do hereby proclaim the month of May 2026 as Building Safety Month. And Lucas.

Mayor, council members, thank you guys. I just want to quickly, I don't have 85 staff members, but I have two here tonight that I want to recognize real quick. Very good. Bryce Lopez, who's our electrical inspector, and John Hutchison, who's the permit tech. And we just want to say thank you guys for recognizing Building Safety Month. And we're going to continue to work alongside contractors and other professionals to keep Laramie safe.

Okay. Thank you. Come on up. Yep. Someday we'll have an exhibit with all these photos.

Thank you so much.

One, two, three.

All right.

Thanks, you guys.

Thanks, John.

Thanks, Lucas. Thanks, Fred.

And then this evening we have no public hearings. So we will go on next to Director Wade. You have a monthly staff recognition for McGuire-Thiel and who is with us tonight.

Honorable Mayor, we do. And so we'll recognize Ms. Thiele. And then we have a few more staff announcements. Assistant Chief Tonsmith is going to join us this evening to talk about Ms. Thiele. And as he's working his way up to the front, I just want to call out something that I noticed in this month's Rockstar write-up. And so notice that it says that McGuire, it was in the middle of the COVID pandemic. and she saw the job of the dispatcher and she thought, I can do that. I mean, if that doesn't capture the spirit of a dispatcher and a public safety professional, I just don't know what does. And so super grateful to have Ms. Thiele on our workforce.

Thank you, Director Wade. Honorable Mayor and Council Members, thanks for the opportunity for us to introduce McGuire tonight as April's Rockstar of the Month. If I could have McGuire come up, please. This is McGuire. McGuire's nomination comes from dispatch supervisor Sarah Felton, who describes her as the very definition of a team player, someone who consistently arrives ready to handle whatever comes her way with professionalism and dedication. And she notes that McGuire is dependable, detail-oriented, and someone that her coworkers can count on. A little background about McGuire. She's a native Wyomingite. She was born and raised in Douglas and later moved to Laramie to pursue her education at the University of Wyoming. There she double majored in criminal justice and sociology and in the spring of 2021 earned her bachelor's degree. Shortly after earning her bachelor's degree, she saw that ad in the paper and came to work for the city of Laramie as a 911 dispatcher and has faithfully served in that role for the past four and a half years. I want to tell you a little bit about dispatching itself, just because a lot of people don't know. Choosing to serve the public as a 911 dispatcher is a decision that people don't normally take very lightly. It carries a lot of weight with it. It is a profession that requires an extraordinary and highly specialized skill set that only a few people truly understand and even fewer are capable of doing. Dispatchers are often underappreciated and rarely recognized. Most people, when they call 911, the dispatcher on the other end of the line is just a voice on the end of the line. But I want you to understand that they are so much more than that, and they do so much more than that. A dispatcher's voice becomes comfort during what is probably one of the most worst moments of a person's life. A Dispatcher's voice is reassurance that help is on the way. It is calmness amid chaos. Dispatchers are capable of guiding someone step by step through things like CPR, delivering a baby, administering life-saving measures over the phone by instructing them to do that. And in order to do that, they can't panic. They have to follow step by step what to do and remain calm and be able to explain to a person that's frantic and panicked on the other end of the line. They are the critical link between citizens in crisis and getting first responders, police, fire, ambulance to the scene in a timely manner. McGuire embodies all of these qualities. She performs her job flawlessly day in and day out and is counted on by the rest of her team every single day. When someone calls 911, it's not simply a voice answering the phone, it's McGuire answering the phone. And it's McGuire helping people navigate some of the most traumatic and worst events of their life. She dedicated herself to ensuring people receive the help they need and is able to quickly and effectively as possible get first responders to that scene. We cannot be more proud to have her serving our community. McGuire is not only a rock star of the month for April, she is literally a rock star every single minute of every single shift that she works because she has to be. She has to be able to perform this job flawlessly. I think the citizens of our community have that expectation of our 911 dispatchers and McGuire is able to do that day in and day out. Without dedicated professionals like McGuire standing ready to answer the call and gather this critical information, the rest of us would not have a chance at success. I can't get to where I need to go if McGuire doesn't perform her job flawlessly. And we as a team are able to do that every single day. Tonight we're proud to recognize and thank McGuire for her professionalism, compassion, and unwavering commitment to the citizens of Laramie. Congratulations and thank you for all that you do.

Assistant Chief, can we get a photo?

Yes, of McGuire.

With McGuire?

You want me to go with you? Okay.

Director Wade, are there any further announcements?

Yes, Mayor. We have three announcements. The City Clerk first will present an announcement and then Parks and Rec Director Bork and then City Engineer Japp.

Thank you, Mayor and Council. Just a quick reminder to the public that municipal election filing period is May 14th through the 29th. So if you have any questions, they can reach out to us in the City Clerk's office and we'd be happy to help.

Thank you, City Clerk. Director Bork, good evening.

Good evening, Mayor and City Council members. I just wanted to let you know that we are just over 12 days out from ending the public input portion of our community-wide sports study. And so we urge anybody that has not had a chance to go on to our social pinpoint site that has five different interactive sites. uh engagement pieces on there uh to do so in the next 12 days we would love to get a final boost of of numbers and and get folks opinions people can uh use kind of virtual sticky notes all the way to uh you know if you had a hundred dollars and you had to spend it on these things how would you spread it out so um again we're just 12 days away from uh all of our community input. This is the one of the last ways that people can can engage with us and give us their opinion on the community wide sports study. Thank you.

Director Bork, can you please tell people where to go in order to find this site?

Honorable Mayor, absolutely. Yes, they can go on to the cityoflaramie.org website and go to the Parks and Recreation page and the link is right on the Parks and Rec page.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Good evening, Mr. Chapp.

Mr. Mayor, members of council, just wanted to provide a brief update on projects again. We are beginning the work on Labonte Park, that emergency water line. That will be beginning this week and going on until next week. That will unfortunately impact the T-ball fields there, but we are working closely with Parks and Rec as we work through that, and our contractor is going to try to get in there and out as soon as possible. As far as our 2026 street rehab, currently the contractor is wrapping up concrete work on 22nd Street and beginning the concrete work on Sheridan. If you actually stop by Sheridan and Corthale, you'll see a little refuge island that we've installed there and some red concrete to draw attention and try to improve the safety of that intersection for people crossing. And then milling and paving operations have started on General Breeze Road, Colorado Avenue. If you look out the window, you'll see Ivanson Avenue as well. Today, the contractor did start work on Ivanson. They currently have it shut between 8th and 15th. 13th Street is still open for access into UW. And that will be going on for most of the rest of the summer as they continue through that. 15th Street was supposed to close this week as well but we did end up postponing that project until about mid-June in hopes to get some more roads open as we are along with 4th Street with our mill and overlay as well. Thornburg alleys are progressing slowly but steadily with our water and sewer there and then As was announced, Pierce Street PRV and Snowy Range projects are currently out to bid. And then I did have an announcement I received from YDOT that they are looking here coming up after Memorial Day to start their mill and overlay work from 30th to Grand. And they have a public meeting, I believe, coming up this Thursday, the 21st, from 5.30 to 6.30 on that project at the Rec Center. So that's what I have. Thank you.

Thank you. I appreciate those updates. Director Wade, is that an announcements?

Mayor, that's all our announcements this evening.

Thank you. Counselors, any disclosures and or conflicts of interest? Seeing none, Vice Mayor Richardson, motion for approval of the consent agenda.

Thank you, Mayor. I move that the consent agenda be approved and that each specific action on the consent agenda be approved as indicated. Second.

I have a motion from Richardson, second from Lockhart. City Clerk, if you can call the roll, please.

Bolling, absent. Freed, absent. Lockhart?

Yes.

Newman?

Yes.

O'Doherty? Yes. Shumway, absent. Vigil, absent. Richardson? Yes. Cumbee?

Yes.

That's five yeses, zero noes, and four absent, Your Honor.

Thank you, City Clerk. That motion passes, and now we will move on to the regular... Agenda item 11A, Councilor Newman.

I move that the Laramie City Council approve resolution 2026-35, amendment appropriations for the fiscal year 2026 budget to fund emergency work to replace a failed water main and authorize the mayor and city clerk to sign. Second.

Motion by Newman, second by Lockhart. Director Webb.

Yeah, excuse me, Mayor Council. So a few weeks ago, we had a water main break in Labonte Park. That water main is a secondary feed that feeds the community north of Labonte Park, kind of between Shields and Reynolds there. Crews attempted to fix it on at least five different occasions and it just continued to break. It's an old cast iron pipe that is just, way past its useful life apparently. The city engineer requested authorization from DEQ to move forward with emergency replacement on that. And then on May 6th at your last regular council meeting, you adopted resolution 2026-30. That resolution authorized the emergency work to move forward, authorized the public works director to proceed with and execute a contract for the emergency work, and directed staff to complete a budget amendment when the final costs are known. So the final costs are now known, and here we are with the budget amendment. The contract has been signed. The work is scheduled to begin tomorrow. The contract is for $132,275 from Big Hunks Excavation. The total budget amendment is for $165,000. We added $32,725 for contingency just in case we need it. And with that, I'll take any questions if you have them.

Thank you, Director. Councilor O'Doherty.

Director Webb, is that line, I haven't figured out where exactly, is it pretty close to the lake and is it a pretty high water table there?

It runs so the mayor through you the line runs at it where we're replacing there's 400 feet and it runs from what is I think Fifth Street the dirt road there behind the animal control and then runs across toward the skate park right across the tee ball field there.

Further questions. Thank you, director. Is there any public comment on this agenda item? Back to council for comments. City clerk, if you can call the roll, please.

Newman.

Yes.

Lockhart.

Yes.

O'Doherty. Yes. Shumway. Absent. Freed. Absent. Bulling. Absent. Vigil. Absent. Richardson. Aye. Cumbee. Yes. That's five yeses, zero noes, and four absent, Your Honor.

Thank you, City Clerk. That motion passes. Next, Counselor Richardson.

Thank you, Mayor. I move that the Laramie City Council approve the transfer of entitlements agreement for fiscal year 26 Laramie Regional Airport to Northeast Wyoming Regional Airport in the amount of $1,300,000 and authorize the mayor and city attorney to sign. Second.

I have a motion from Richardson, second from O'Doherty. Good evening, Director Terrell.

Good evening, Mayor, Honorable Mayor and Council Members. I'm here today to ask for approval to transfer $1.3 million of our AIP money to Gillette Airport or Northwest, excuse me, Northeast Wyoming Regional Airport. What our AIP money is, it's the airport improvement program money. We get this money annually. It's for our 10,000 employments. It's from the federal government and it's earmarked for very specific projects. This year we don't have any projects that we are going to spend that money on. If the state of Wyoming doesn't use the money, the state loses the money and we are not going to use it this year. Next year we have a $15.3 million apron project, so we've been collecting our money to put that money towards that project next summer. This summer Gillette can use the money, so we would like to transfer that money over to Gillette. It does come with pretty, I wouldn't say a guarantee, but pretty much a guarantee that we get that money back. If for some reason that money went, They didn't have the ability to pay it back. The FAA would come in and make us whole. So we did check into that. I was a little nervous just sending out the money and not guaranteed we would get it back. They would make us whole if that money does not come back. So I'm asking that we did this two years ago with Rock Springs Airport. That money has been transferred back into our account. So I'm asking, I asked the county commission, I've asked the airport board, and I'm asking you as well, to authorize the transfer of the money to Gillette Airport, knowing that we will get it back next fiscal year for our apron project.

Thank you, Director. Counselors, questions?

Vice Mayor? Just out of curiosity, do you know what Gillette's using the money toward?

I do not. Thanks.

I'm curious, when Gillette receives that money, it's kind of like a loan. Do they pay an interest on that?

No, I believe it goes directly into one of their projects. So just like us, we're planning a project next year. They're in the middle of doing projects. That money goes specifically to a project that the FAA, the state, and the Gillette Airport Board have all approved.

but then the benefit is it keeps the money in Wyoming. What you don't use, you lose.

Correct, so if we don't use that, the state makes the recommendation of us to lend it out. If we don't spend that money, the FAA will take that money back and it will go to another airport project in the United States.

Okay. Vice Mayor. Thank you. Sorry, one more question. So then how does it work that it's a guarantee to make you whole? That just is part of the process? Is it written into an agreement?

So we asked that. That is a question the airport board asked this week or last week when we had our board meeting. Mark Miller, who used to work for the FAA, talked about it's never happened where someone doesn't get paid back, but they said there were some stop gaps in place to make us whole if they weren't able to pay us back. But they, like us, get the same $1.3 million a year, so they will be issued that $1.3 million next year for their 10,000 employments, and that money will just come to us instead of go to them. Well, it'll go to them, and then they'll give our money back.

Great, thank you. Further questions? Thank you, Director. Is there any public comment on this agenda item? Seeing none, back to Council for comment. City Clerk, if you can call the roll, please.

Lockhart.

Yes.

Newman.

Yes.

O'Doherty. Yes. Shumway. Absent. Vigil. Absent. Bulling. Absent. Freed. Absent. Richardson. Yes. Cumbee.

Yes.

That's five yeses, zero nos, and four absent, Your Honor.

Thank you, City Clerk. That motion passes. Next, Councilor Lockhart.

I move that the City Council award the West End-West Laramie Connector Trail Project to Prairie Equipment LLC in the amount of $941,397.98 and authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to sign. Second.

I have a motion from Lockhart, second from Newman. Director Bork.

Good evening, Mayor, City Council members. So this Westside-West Laramie project is connecting Pierce Street over in West Laramie. It goes underneath I-80, crosses McHugh, and goes along State Park property along the old railroad line. and then connects at the railroad trestle bridge and then connects with the rest of the Greenbelt Trail. This project is to both construct that trail, as I just described, as well as make significant improvements and repairs to the trestle bridge, including some structural shoring, but new decking and new railing, a lot of aesthetic improvements as well. We posted the advertisement to bid for this project on April 3rd and April 10th. It was posted on the Quest CDN platform and a mandatory pre-bid meeting was held on April 17th with a closing date and a public opening on May 5th at 1 o'clock p.m. held here in the city council chambers. Three bids were received and all three met the minimum requirements. Based on the bids that we received, staff recommends that the contract be awarded to Prairie Equipment LLC. And I am here for any questions you might have.

Thank you, Director. Questions, Councillors? Councillor Lockhart.

Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Director Bork. Just clarification as I read, this is just utilizing the remainder of the 2018 SPET tax, so it has to be done. We're just awarding it to a specific contractor. Honorable Mayor, through you, correct, yes.

Thank you. Vice Mayor.

Thank you director Bork. I'm trying to and I should have looked at this earlier and I didn't I apologize. What is the material going to be for the new trail? I mean I know that's a lot of money but it actually sounds pretty low based on some of the other bids we've been getting in. Can you share a little bit more?

Honorable Mayor, through to the Vice Mayor. It's going to be eight foot wide concrete, reinforced concrete. And then the bridge will be repaired with Ipe wood, which is a really strong South American hardwood that has been lasting very well at our Imperial Heights little foot bridge out there. So we expect great things on that.

Great. Thank you. Further questions? Thank you, Director.

Thank you.

Is there any public comment on this agenda item? Seeing none, back to council. Comments? City Clerk, call the roll, please.

O'Doherty?

Yes.

Newman?

Yes.

Lockhart?

Yes.

Freed? Absent. Bowling? Absent. Shumway? Absent. Vigil? Absent. Richardson? Yes. Cumbie? Yes. That's five yeses, zero noes, and four absent, Your Honor.

Thank you, City Clerk. That motion passes. Next, Councilor Newman, item 11C.

I move that the City Council approve the lease renewal with the Laramie Rifle Range Corporation and authorize the Mayor and City Court to sign.

Second. I have a motion from Newman, a second from Richardson. Director Bork.

Honorable Mayor, good to see you all and the councilors again. So for the last 40 years, the Laramie Rifle Range has operated a public rifle range facility on city-owned property operated by the Laramie Rifle Range Corporation. The first lease that is in my files is in 2006. I know there were documents going back further than that, but in 2006 there was a lease that was created for five years. At that five year mark in 2011, the terms changed a little bit to a 15 year lease with an option for two 15 year renewals at the option of the lessee. So we are now in 2026 at the time to execute the first of the two extensions for an additional 15 years. In speaking with the Laramie Rifle Range Corporation and Tom Matamor, no changes were requested. So it's the same original terms as the 2011 lease. And staff recommends that city council act favorably. And after council action, then we would bring up Mr. Matamor after the vote. or while we do it?

It's up to the council when they click.

We also have Tom Matamor here with some comments as well, so it's up to the pleasure of whether you want to hear that now or...

I think we'll hear Mr. Matamor now.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you. Welcome, Mr. Mattermore.

Thank you. Honorable Mayor and counselors, introduce Kelly Cook. She's the treasurer of the Laramie Rifle Range and a member as well. I better put on my glasses. I brought two pair this time. Thank you. Last time I spoke, I broke one and I couldn't read, had to borrow some. 40 years ago, the city of Laramie first leased this property, this parcel of land to the Laramie Rifle Range Corporation, along with a grant of $2,900 to fence the property. Since then, LRRC has provided a safe place for the shooting sports to take place. We've provided firearms training to generations of Laramie and Albany County residents. When I joined the range in 1996, there were 222 members. We had one covered shed, but you saw the first one was the oldest one. That was where all the shooting was done. With donations of land, a substantial amount of earthwork by the Wyoming National Guard, and the sweat equity of the members, recreation board grants, we've built a shooting sports complex that really is the envy of the region. We now have 1,069 active memberships of which over 300 are family memberships and over 200 are student memberships. I didn't put it on this paper, but I checked before I came tonight. Well, last year, for the total year, we had over 10,000 vehicle entries onto the range. As of 4 o'clock this afternoon, we broke 4,000 vehicle entries onto the range for the middle of May, and it's our slow season. So we're going to do a lot better than last year. We offer free access as part of our lease to LPD, but in addition, we provide free access to UWPD, UWROTC, Albany County Sheriff's Office, Game and Fish, Wyoming National Guard for Training. The Wyoming National Guard will have an event out there tomorrow. leadership building event. We also hold monthly long-range matches that bring in competitors from around the region, at least four states every match. We have one who regularly shows up from Iowa because it's the only place he can find to shoot 1,000 yards between here and Des Moines, which I kind of doubt. I mean, Nebraska's pretty big, but he loves it here.

The Appleseed Training Events brings in instructors.

They train their instructors here. They camp out for seven days. We'll have 30 to 40 of them. Some of them stay in town. They buy all their groceries in town and ammunition. We also offer hunter education, basic pistol and rifle instruction, concealed carry classes. We've hosted Boy Scout merit badge events, 4-H muzzle loading. Wyoming High School Rodeo came out the first time last year and held their junior competition and they will be back again next year. And Our fees are the lowest in the region and have not been raised only once since 1996. So it's quite affordable for the residents of Laramie. The members of the board and the range have built a facility that I think the city and county can be really proud of. Right now the city, I mean the state of Wyoming is gonna spend $20 million to try and do what we have already got. And the best part for the city is it doesn't cost you a dime. So we provide this facility and it's basically cost free to the city of Laramie. And with that, thank you very much. And I'll sign the lease.

Thank you. I really appreciate it. And I'm just going to make a comment right now. I had the opportunity with the, um, with the Comprehensive Plan Steering Committee to do a tour of the rifle range. And it's the first time in my tenure on council that it became real to me. It's something that I would get a report every other week. And so I was so impressed. It is such a beautiful site. It offers so much. And Tom Matamor has offered to help me learn to shoot. And we have a group going out on June 20. But the day that we were out there, I said, Tom, you've got to come to council and talk more about this. We need to hear about it because it really is a jewel. And it's a great opportunity for the citizens of Laramie and also for our law enforcement people. Thank you so much for the work you do.

And if you want, I want to have the time. I have a two and a half minute video or publicity video that Nancy can play for if you want to watch it.

Oh, I'm getting a nod, yes.

Erin, you had a question.

Can I ask a question? I think we ought to watch it, but I was thinking if a visitor's coming through town, do you have to be a member, or how does a visitor, is there a day pass that you can get?

If somebody calls me and they want to come out, I can generally, since I'm retired, I can generally, if I'm not in a comprehensive plan meeting... planning commission meeting or another meeting, I'm more than happy to work with them and get them out. We offer public days once a month. Excuse me. And we also, where it's a $10 fee to come out and use the range, we also have every weekend in September and the first three weekends in October, Saturday and Sunday, are open to the general public. We have a lot of people come in and make prior arrangements to come and sight in the rifles at altitude. So... We can do that. That's a big problem is the board is all volunteers. Excuse me. I'm out of wind. A rare occurrence.

So we'll go ahead and watch the video.

This is our indoor at the 200 yard line. We'll be right back.

That's right.

Thank you. Thank you very much. That's some beautiful country there.

My beloved child, do you know that the most fearful thing in the journey of faith is... What a funny one to come on.

All right. Counselors, do you have any further questions? Is there any public comment on this agenda item? Seeing none, back to counselors for comments. City Clerk, if you can please call the roll.

Bolling absent, Freed absent, Lockhart?

Yes.

Newman?

Yes.

O'Doherty? Yes. Shumway absent, Vigil absent, Richardson? Yes. Comby?

Yes.

That's five yeses, zero nos, and four absent, Your Honor.

Thank you, City Clerk. That motion passes, and Tom and Kelly, thank you so much for coming tonight. Next item 11D, Councillor O'Doherty.

I move to approve original ordinance number 2121, amending multiple sections of Laramie Municipal Code Chapter 15 for the purposes of updating, amending, adding, and deleting select sections of the ICC 2024 code within city code and as recommended by the Planning Commission on third and final reading in accordance with findings of facts and conclusion of law and authorize the mayor and clerk to sign the ordinance. Second.

I have a motion from O'Doherty, second from Newman. Good evening, Mr. Witt.

Council members, Mayor, thank you again for hearing me out here. We're on our third reading as stated. My apologies for missing the second reading. Sounds like we had a little bit of discussion on one item. Other than that, sounds like it went okay. So as far as the one item that was discussed has to do with the plumbing fixtures and fittings, smooth surfaces. So we did add some additional verbiage in there at the end of it to hopefully clear that up. But it sounds like we may have some changes or amendments that come through for that. So if you have any questions on that, it does, we just added a less, it is smooth inside the fixture, faucet or fitting, just to clarify that in case they do have a corrugated pipe that happens to be smooth on the inside, so.

Thank you. And is there... proposed amendment at this time vice mayor.

Yes because I think it was implied that it was inside but it isn't it didn't state it specifically and so the proposed amendment is that same place plumbing fixtures faucets and fixture fittings shall have smooth impervious interior water contact services shall be free from defects shall not have concealed fouling surfaces and shall conform to the standards and table p2701.1 and elsewhere in this code fixtures faucets and fixture fittings shall not incorporate or corrugated and accordion style or flexible design on any interior water contact surface.

Second. I think I heard Newman first so I have a motion yes. Did you have your hand up?

I did, Mayor. I was just going to ask for, just for context from either Lucas or from Vice Mayor, what section that's in? Oh, sorry.

14, section 14, no. Yep. 10... Yeah, so section 14 and then below that, 10 section P2701.1, quality of fixtures amended.

Thank you, Mayor.

And that's on page 6 at the end. So I have a motion from Richardson, second from Newman on the amendment. So is there any discussion or questions regarding that? Is there any public comment on that amendment? Okay, yes.

We do have a hand raised online from Brett Glass.

Oh, okay. And so if you can let Mr. Glass in.

Good evening, honorable mayor, members of council. Can you hear me?

Yes, sir, we can hear you.

Yes, I'm definitely in support of this amendment because I think that the language that was added was not very good. But I don't think that it goes far enough. There are corrugated connectors, which are used for plumbing, that are actually used for safety purposes and in some jurisdictions are actually required. For example, the corrugated connectors that you use to hook up the supply lines and the outlets to water heaters. You have a bendable connector. piece of either stainless steel or of copper that you use to connect the water heater to the cold water coming in and to the rest of your plumbing when it goes out. And the reason why that's flexible is because if you hard pipe your water heater, then if there is an earthquake or other disturbance like that, it will break the pipes and you'll have a flood. This is actually required in many jurisdictions, certainly all over the West Coast, in California, where they have a lot of earthquakes. This provision even revised the way it is in its motion. would prohibit that common sense, very positive sort of connector that really is a good idea not only to allow but to encourage. I really think that we need a little more thought and a little more revision here before we go ahead. If you do go ahead and pass this amendment, I would recommend that you add another which allows connectors such as the ones I've just mentioned. Because again, it's very important that we do that. There's nothing solid. Unlike a drain line, there's nothing solid in your water supply. There's nothing that's going to catch on the corrugations. And we really need to be able to install the water heater properly. So please give this your consideration. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Glass. Chris Stratton. I have one more public comment. Thanks Lucas.

I would like to comment also in a change towards that because most lines that are factory installed on dishwashers are a corrugated line as well. So that would mean that we would have to remove what comes factory installed and install something that is hopefully going to work. Thank you.

Thank you. Any further public comment on this amendment? Is it the amendment or we've already passed that?

That's just the amendments.

Oh, those were out of order than the comments, I guess.

Okay, no, not necessarily. All right, so... Back to council. Comments. Councillor Newman.

Question, comment? Question or comment. Yeah. So I was part of the email chain, I guess I should have disclosed that, but with this text amendment, because I said something and then the vice mayor said something, and I did have questions about the hot water heaters. I guess I just assumed those were always smooth inside, even though they looked flexible. But the other one was the dishwasher, not only that, I don't know, I have an accordion style one on the back of my washer. Does that mean that would be not be able to use as well?

Mr. Witt.

Mayor, through you. As far as the water heaters go, the water lines that Mr. Glass was referencing, to my knowledge, it's more of a flexible rubber hose inside of that line. So it's still smooth inside of that. It's just the outside has a little rougher texture on the outside for protection. As far as the dishwasher line, is that a drain line? Yes. Okay. I mean, most of those come with the manufacturer, and those should be smooth on the inside as well. No? Okay. I would have to look into that, to be honest with you, if that's part of it. I believe what this, though, is talking about is the fixtures themselves, which... There could be a lot of those, but most of it has to do with the drain lines that we're having issues with. But that's a good point to bring up on the dishwashers because not everybody rinses their dishes and there's a lot of food particles that come down those. So to be honest, I would need to look into that.

Vice Mayor. Just a comment on the metal one that hooks to the, this is a quick Google search, that hooks to the hot water heater. It shows that pipe, but it says it has a dielectric sleeve, which is smooth on the inside. So that covers that.

And Mayor, through you, one more thing I guess thinking about the dishwasher piece would need to look at maybe is because the manufacturer provides those lines. I mean, most of the time if we have either appliances or anything like that, we go to the manufacturer specs on that. So if it's something that's provided by the manufacturer, a lot of times we don't. It's a recommended thing from them too.

Thank you. Any further comments on the amendment? City Clerk, if you can call the roll, please.

Bolling, absent. Freed, absent. Lockhart, yes. Newman, yes. O'Doherty, yes. Shumway, absent. Vigil, absent. Richardson, yes. Cumbee, yes. That's five yeses, zero nos, and four absent, Your Honor.

Thank you, City Clerk. The amendment passes, and so now we're back to the motion. Councilor Newman.

Question for staff, I guess, should we amend this again to add language in there that says unless it comes from the manufacturer? Because, I mean, this is a pretty hard rule currently that doesn't give any leeway to that.

Mayor, through you, I mean, the code does reference the manufacturer piece that I was talking about. There's language in the code currently that says we would go off the manufacturer specs because they're the professionals on that stuff.

Thank you for that question. Any further comments? Is there any public comment on this agenda item?

Mayor, we have Mr. Brett Glass online.

Okay. Good evening, Mr. Glass. You have a comment on the agenda item.

Yes, thank you, Mayor and members of Council. I just wanted to comment that a dielectric sleeve is merely an insulator at one end of the pipe. It's not a liner that goes all the way through a pipe. And if you take a look at the copper corrugated water heater connectors that you can find on homedepot.com or lowes.com or any of the websites, you will see that the corrugations on the copper do appear on the inside of the pipe. Again, they're not harmful because water doesn't... doesn't mind corrugations. I think this item, you know, I might want to ask if one of you might want to defer this so it can be discussed further. This, again, would prohibit the safest way of installing a water heater. And there really is more to this that I think hasn't been looked at thoroughly. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Glass. Any further comment on this agenda item? Back to council. Councillors, any comments or further questions? Councillor Newman.

Mine's just a comment because I did a quick Google search too because you know that's... As long as there's something in there that says like, we can look at manufacturer recommendations too. It's said that like almost every hot water company suggests using those, so I would assume that would be kind of in the code saying that we could use them because it's coming from that manufacturer, even though it's not part of it.

Mayor, through you, yeah, I mean, that's... I'll just clarify, Mr. Glass referenced, you can go to Home Depot and buy those. What I want to make sure people understand too is that just because you buy it from Home Depot doesn't mean it meets code. There's a lot of parts that are sold in different department stores that don't always meet code.

Thank you.

Any further questions or comments from council? Vice Mayor? Thank you. Just a quick one. I want to acknowledge Mr. Glass's comment at the end as I'm reading further. It says that they're attached in chrome-plated blast fittings built into a dielectric sleeve. So I'm assuming those are at the ends. But back to what Mr. Witt shared with us that we can, you go back to the manufacturer's kind of and I think we' ve taken a good opportunity to talk about that other place and so hopefully we can build in some common sense around this as well.

thank you. Further comments or

Lockhart.

Yes.

Newman. Yes. O'Doherty. Yes. Shumway. Absent. Vigil. Absent. Bowling. Absent. Freed. Absent. Richardson. Yes. Cumbee.

Yes.

That's five yeses, zero noes, and four absent, Your Honor.

Thank you, City Clerk. That motion passes. Next... Okay, I kind of lost my place for a minute. I've got so many notes in here. All right, so item 11E. Councilor Newman.

I move that the Laramie City Council approve resolution 2026-36 to establish an open container area in the downtown district and authorize the mayor and city clerk to sign. Second.

I have a motion from Newman, second from Lockhart.

Mayor. Councilor Newman. Have an amendment please. Yes. I move to amend resolution 2026-36 by substituting it with resolution 2026-36A. Second.

I have a motion from Newman and a second from Lockhart. City Clerk.

Thank you, Mayor. So the resolution before you this evening is to establish the open container district in the downtown area for this year. We've done this for the last few years since 2020 during the pandemic. and have had a few complaints but not many. One downtown business owner that's objected and then one that just said it's inconvenient for their business because they own a restaurant liquor license and is not able to allow the alcohol to leave their premises. per state statutes. So those are kind of the feedback we've gotten from downtown business owners. The city council has, a few have expressed interest in maybe doing this more permanently. And so we have drafted a substitute resolution. However, in speaking with the city attorney, he and I both feel that if we want to do a permanent resolution, we would actually want to go ahead and establish it in code. So if you were to amend by substitution tonight, we would follow up with an ordinance in the future. So with that, it does start Thursday before Memorial Day and goes through October. And so we have the hours on here of 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. Retail liquor license holders, microbreweries, and wineries are the establishments by state statute that are allowed to let alcohol leave their premises for consumption. So When we notice our downtown businesses, we make sure that they have a list of the establishments that are allowed to participate and let that alcohol leave. But if you have any questions, we'd be happy to answer those for you.

Counselor's questions.

Councillor O'Doherty. I'm going to oppose the amendment to make it permanent because it's not that big a deal to bring it up each year and I think changing code sounds like a lot more work for something that we can consider every year and see how it's going. Thanks.

Further questions or comments? Vice Mayor?

I'm curious. I know last year we had a report from PD saying they didn't really have much increase during this time. Would that be the same this year? Or from last year, I guess I should say.

Thank you. Thank you, honorable mayor and council. Yeah, this doesn't impact us hardly at all. We don't have any increase in calls for service due to this. It doesn't really impact our operation at all. And in the five years, this will be the sixth year of this going. I can't think of even a handful of people problems that we've encountered due to this.

Thank you. Thank you, Assistant Chief.

Vice Mayor. Thank you. This question is for City Attorney. Are there many places in our ordinances currently that this would have to be changed or would it be a pretty direct change to ordinance?

I don't know. You know, I would have to comb comb through ordinances and I'll do it. It'll it's not that complicated. But I would have to check. I don't know that off the top of my head.

Further questions or comments comment. Okay. I have a comment.

I'll make mine after after public.

Okay. Is there any public comment? on this amendment, I mean on this agenda item. On the amendment.

Mr. Glass online, Mayor.

Okay.

Honorable Mayor, members of council.

Yes, you have a comment on the amendment.

Well, yes, I would definitely say that, you know, making it permanent would not be a good idea. I think that we need to reconsider this. We need to really look at whether it's working because, well, there are considerations when we go back to regular public comment that I can mention about this. I would recommend against just going ahead and putting it into the code because of that. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Glass. Back to council, is there any further public comment? back to Council for comment.

Vice Mayor. Thank you. I was real on board with doing this the full just making it a permanent ordinance. However, without having properly talked to the City Attorney first to let him prep and tell us how much work this would be. I don't know if this is your highest priority nor is it our highest priority to have you go through all the ordinance to figure this out. So thank you for the comment, Councilor Doherty, because you're right. It isn't that difficult to look at each year. It feels like it should be such an easy thing to just do and be done with for good. And I don't know if it's our best use of time.

City Attorney.

Yeah, I want to be clear that just as I sit here, I don't know. It might not be much. It might be more things we have to change. I'll do it if you want it done. So my comment of not knowing, it came up this afternoon. So I just mean sitting right here right now, I don't know.

Further comments? City clerk roll call on the amendment.

Bolling absent. Freed absent. Lockhart.

Yes.

Newman. Yes. O'Doherty. No. Shumway absent. Vigil absent. Richardson.

Golly, we just don't know how much that's going to be everywhere. I'm going to say no to this. Maybe we can find out for next year.

Cumbie.

Yes.

That's three yeses, two noes, and four absent, Your Honor.

Thank you, City Clerk. That motion passes. The amendment passes. I mean the omission. The amendment passes. My goodness. This has been a complicated agenda. So now we're back to the motion. And so are there any comments or questions on the motion? Councilor O'Doherty.

So is this what I have in front of me? This is the substitution. I can't find it online. So is there... Okay. So for the public, if you refresh the agenda and it's 9E originally.

No, not E. 9F. Thank you. Looks like I put that paper underneath. But it is listed at the bottom. It's Resolution 2026-36A, Downtown Open Container Area, 519-26 Amended. Sounds good. Thank you. Any further comment? I have a comment, I guess.

Any further questions? Is there any public comment on this agenda item?

Mayor, we have Brett Glass online.

Okay.

Thank you, honorable mayor and council. Good evening. I want to speak again. Yes, I want to speak again on and against the motion. We downtown, unfortunately, we who live and work there, do see a lot of effects from this, where it's sometimes pointless to report them to the police because they're so transient. But we do see such things as public urination. We do see things such as fights. We do see people violating the ordinance, even though it says that you should not take these open containers into the alleys. We see people do so. We see people get into their cars and drive away with those containers, even though, of course, obviously that's not legal either. And if you sit in the plaza at the end of Grand Avenue on a nice summer day and people bring the open containers out, they are sometimes giving them to people who are obviously underage. And unfortunately, there is a reason why for decades, Maybe even for hundreds of years, laws have prohibited people taking open containers of alcohol out of bars. It doesn't help downtown businesses. It doesn't help the bars themselves because that container that they take out is going to be the last thing they buy at that bar. And so they're losing the customer at that point. It really doesn't do any good for anyone. And so I'd urge you... At least I would hope that you consider voting this down because it really doesn't do anything good and it certainly does impact downtown in some negative ways. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Gliss. Any further public comment on this agenda item? Seeing none, back to council. Council comments, Councillor Lockhart.

Thank you, Mayor. I'm for this. It encourages us to come downtown and enjoy our time a little bit more. And there's always going to be examples of bad behavior, whether we have this or not. Before we had it, we had street dances and people were still doing what Mr. Glass had said. So I'm all for this. I think it does get more people out of the house to be able to go enjoy themselves and maybe spend a little bit more money downtown.

Thank you. Councillor Newman.

I agree, and I'll say I don't partake, but going downtown, just watching people be able to go from, for example, maybe the library or something, to where Dice Lane is, where we have benches and stuff. That makes sense, right? And then they get up from there, and they maybe go to a different establishment. I'll tell you, I know some bar owners downtown. I have never had any downtown experience. either bar owner, restaurant, any establishment down there tell me this is a bad idea. So I think we should approve this.

Thank you. Councilor Doherty.

I also, I don't see a lot of people, I go downtown a lot and I go down and I think this is the way we can enjoy our beautiful summers and all be together and people could, one member of the family might want a drink while the rest are just having non-alcoholic beverages and the family can be together and have a picnic and walk around. And as far as people urinating in alleys, I don't think in broad daylight, we have a lot of people urinating in alleys and getting into fights because these are the daylight hours. And to me, it's just part of enjoying our summer. And I was originally opposed to this ordinance years ago when it was proposed because I thought, why do we have to have alcohol everywhere? but I've come around to see that it's just like I shouldn't be the morality police, and this is just a part of our summers downtown that makes it more fun. Thank you. Thank you.

Vice Mayor.

I will just echo a lot of what has been said. Friends get so excited this time of year. It's the one time you can get outside and be in the sun. Our summers are short. And to be able to be outside, whether you're drinking or not, but any opportunity. So I'm for it.

Thank you. And I echo the sentiment that's been stated tonight and originally I too was opposed to this because I was concerned it just made alcohol everywhere but having participated and been downtown for the last five years of this ordinance, it is not, I don't see misbehavior. Of course, I'm not down here late at dark when the bars, people are letting out of the bars and maybe relieving themselves in the alleys. I've never seen anything like that. And I have received... positive comment from business people not only just bars but also from other people merchants and other people downtown because it does create a festive environment where people are mingling and walking and people perceive it as something positive and I've received more that comment than I've hardly received any negative. City Clerk, if you can please call the roll.

Bolling, absent. Freed, absent. Newman?

Yes.

Lockhart? Yes. O'Doherty? Yes. Shumway, absent. Vigil, absent. Richardson? Yes. Cumbee? Yes. That's five yeses, zero noes, and four absent, Your Honor.

Thank you, City Clerk. That motion passes. Now we go on to... Item 11F, which was 9H, Councillor O'Doherty.

I move that the Laramie City Council authorize the mayor to sign a letter of support for Albany County's Safe Streets and Roads for All, SS4A, grant application related to interoperable public safety radio communications and roadway incident response movements. Second.

I have a motion from O'Doherty, second from Richardson. Assistant Chief, good evening.

Thank you, Honorable Mayor and Council. If I could just clarify what this is. It was brought up earlier that this morning at the county commissioner's meeting, there was proposed a $1.2 million grant application for this purpose. What that is, is it is the city and the county, several entities all came together collaborative on a grant application. Instead of each of us applying for this grant and battling against each other to try to win this grant, we came together as a team and decided that we would submit one grant application for Albany County. The city of Laramie Police Department is part of that. And our part of that would be to replace 60 of our portable radios and two mobile radios for vehicles. So roughly it's around $500,000 of equipment and programming that the city of Laramie would gain from this grant. The overall grant includes the sheriff's office, emergency management, road and bridge, search and rescue, all of those entities combined to come up to that $1.2 million. All of it is for radio equipment and programming. And so I just wanted to clarify those numbers, where that came from and how that came to be and why it came through Albany County instead of the city of Laramie.

Thank you, Assistant Chief. Questions, Councillors? Councillor Newman.

Is there a match, did that get talked about? Was there just miscommunication there for the grant?

I'm unaware of a match. My understanding of it was is when we came together, everybody submitted what they needed for radio equipment, and that number came to 1.2 million. That's what they will apply for, the total amount in the grant, and if we don't get that amount, then we will come up with another way to try to get the rest of those funds through other grants or...

Thank you. So just to clarify what we are approving tonight is the letter of support, which is required for you to submit the application for a $1.2 million grant with no known copay or match fund. That's what we're approving.

Honorable Mayor, that is correct. Thank you. The letter of support that will then be submitted with that grant.

With the grant application. Thank you very much. Director?

Honorable Mayor, I just, I don't want the record to be wrong and so I think it's important that I speak about things that I know about. So typically the Safe Streets for All Grants Program does have a 20% match. This is a major radio equipment replacement and remember we have 911, E911 restricted funds on hand. And those monies are restricted for purposes of emergency equipment. And so likely there will be a future match if we are awarded funding, but that would come from that restricted funding for 911 and we would be building that reserve anyway. And so that's not a known amount right now, but I don't think, and that's not what you're approving this evening, but I don't think we want the record wrong about a potential future match on that maybe.

Thank you. I appreciate that clarification. Any further questions? Is there any public comment on this agenda item? Good evening, Mr. Gruber.

Thank you for the clarification. Now I understand what it's all about. Thank you very much.

Yes, sir. Thank you for asking. All right. Any further public comment? Back to council for comments. City Clerk, if you can please call the roll.

Bolling, absent. Freed, absent. Lockhart, yes. Newman, yes. O'Doherty, yes. Shumway, absent. Vigil, absent. Richardson, yes. Cumbee, yes. That's five yeses, zero nos, and four absent, Your Honor.

Thank you, City Clerk. That motion passes. And next, I'd like to ask if there's any public comment on non-agenda items. Seeing none, we will move on to...

Apologies. Brett Glass has his hand raised on line.

Okay. Okay. Good evening, Mr. Glass. Comment on non-agenda items.

Absolutely.

Yes, sir.

Yes, honorable mayor and members of council.

Mr. Glass, I don't know if you can hear, but you froze. So begin again, please.

Okay. Yes, last week you had two work sessions out at the Municipal Operations Center, and according to the calendar that's published in the agenda, you're going to have another one next week with some important items on it. Unfortunately, the Municipal Operations Center is not accessible to many members of the public. It's very dangerous to try to bicycle out there. And there is no public transportation available. Also, if you watch on video, they don't have a video system that's anywhere near the equivalent of what you have there in the council chambers. There is a device called the owl, which works fine if people are gathered around a conference table, but has problems with showing people and especially with the audio. from a meeting. Very often when you look at it on YouTube after the fact, you can see that everything is very garbled. I'd like to recommend that as part of your budget discussions going forward, that you consider budgeting for the same sort of system that you have in City Hall at a municipal operations center if you're going to have more meetings there because it is less accessible More people are going to want to tune in by Zoom or watch on YouTube, and it's very important that the public be informed about what happens there. Thank you very much.

Thank you, Mr. Glass. Is there any other public comment on non-agenda items? Thank you. Next, is there, does any counselor have a suggestion for a future work session? Seeing, oh, Councilor Newman.

Not a work session, I guess, but if city staff could get us an email or something, because I know we're doing a budget amendment for new hardware for our streaming device, if that could be used for streaming from the MOC as well, if we can just get a follow-up on that.

I will tell you that Councilor O'Doherty is working on that suggestion, city clerk.

Just a little clarification, Mayor, the $50,000 that's been requested for the TriCaster is a piece of equipment that's in this broadcast room. I would have to double check with the broadcast experts on that, but I believe because we'd be broadcasting back through that room, that TriCaster is used for all operations that we do. But that $50,000 is specific for that TriCaster, yeah.

Councilor Doherty. And I wanted to ask about, I think the owl looks pretty silly, the video does. I could hear it just fine. I went and watched all those meetings. I could hear everything. But I think if we could just get a couple fixed cameras, it would be better off. So I'd like to propose a budget amendment about that.

Yeah.

Any other... Suggestions for future work sessions. Counselor O'Doherty, number 14, please. I move we adjourn. Oh, wait. I'm in a hurry. I have a motion from O'Doherty, a second from Newman. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? We are done.

Thank you.