Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

you need to be recording. Okay. Yep. Are we ready? I hereby call this meeting of the January 20th, 2026 Lancaster County Planning Commission to order. Would the clerk please um call roll? Jason Cavalier here. Yukim Kuritan here. Lynette Henson here. Judiana Tinkllinberg here. Michelle Richards here. Sheila Henson. Francis Lou here.

Would the clerk please make a note on the record that a quorum of the planning commission is present? Public notice of the meeting, including the meeting agenda, has been posted the required length of time in the lobby of the county administration building and on the county website and the news media was notified of the meeting place and time. Welcome everyone to the Lancaster County Planning Commission meeting. Um, please make sure that all of your electronic devices are silenced and abide by the posted rules of this meeting. Please remove your hats. Uh, keep your shoes on, no profanity. Please don't be rude to other people as they are speaking. Um, a signup sheet was provided at the entrance of the room. If you haven't already, please add your name to the list for the relevant agenda item and you will be called to speak at the appropriate time. Uh, would you please rise and join us in the pledge of allegiance and an opening prayer by Commissioner Kuritan. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Bless the Lord, oh my soul. Bless his holy name. Bless the Lord, oh my soul, and forget not all his benefits. Father, we come to you tonight humbly. We come to you tonight to say thank you, God. We're asking for boldness, wisdom, and understanding to make good decisions as your servants for the citizens of Lancaster County. Lord, we come against any attacks, any activities, distractions, any distortions that the enemy might throw against us. Father, we come in unity and we come as a group to make decisions that make most sense for our neighborhoods, our sisters and our brothers. We pray all of this in the mighty name of Jesus.

Thank you. Um, the next item on the agenda is the election of officers for 2026. Would you like me to handle Is this one working? Okay, good. It sounds really weird. Does that Could you guys hear this one? Perfect. It sounds odd up here. Um, would you like me to handle these as you are the outgoing president or would you like to handle the elections? Please handle them. Yes, ma'am. Um, at this time I will call for motions for our um, next chair.

I make a motion that um, we retain Shelley Richards as our chairwoman. I second that. Right. Miss Richards, would you be willing to stay on as chair if you were voted in at this time? Yes.

Thank you. Are there any other nominations for chair at this time? Okay. Hearing no other nominations, um you will be placed in his chair with no competition. Um just for our record, just to make this official official, would we please get a um a vote, a show of hands vote for Miss Richard? Thank you. At this time now, I will also call for elections of the vice chair. Can I please have nominations for the vice chair? I nominate Judiana Tinklinberg.

Okay. Um, Miss Tinklberg, are you willing to continue the role as vice chair if voted in at this moment? I am. Thank you. At this time, are there any other nominations for vice chair? Okay. Hearing none, the procedure will stay the same as we did for chair. Please by a show of hands if you approve Miss Tinklenberg as vice chair. Okay. So I will hand this over back to you. Um Chairman Richards. Thank you. Uh the next item on the I'm sorry to interrupt but I don't think that I have a copy of the agenda.

We can fix that. Thank you Jason. I might, but I haven't been able to locate. So, thank you very much. Thank you. All right. Next item um on the um agenda is the is uh the approval of the agenda. Do I hear a motion? Make a motion to approve. Second.

Any um discussions or comments? Yes, Madam Chair. Before the vote, I need to note for the record that the tabled minutes do not reflect that my written complaint was submitted and received during the November 18th, 2025 meeting after I was recognized by Mr. Cavalier. This is for the agenda, not for the minutes. We already approved the agenda, didn't we? No, this is the motion. In that case, I apologize. I

We have a first and a second. If we don't have any comment, um um uh commissioners, we have a first and a second to approve the agenda as presented tonight. Can I have a show of fa a show a hand in favors of approving the agenda as presented? Passes six to zero. Yes, ma'am. And just to let staff know, I did now find my agenda. Didn't want to. Thank you. All right. Um next item on the agenda is the approval of the minutes. First item is the November 18th, 2025 regular minutes um which have already been amended once or twice. Do I have any discussion or comments? I'm sorry. First off, do I hear a motion? Make a motion to approve

and a second. Second. Now, do I have any um comments from commissioners? Again, Madam Chair. Yes. Before the vote, I need to note for the record that the tabled minutes do not reflect that my written complaint was submitted and received during the November 18th, 2025 meeting after I was recognized by the chair. I object object to approval of the amended minutes in their current form and request they be corrected to accurately uh accurately reflect the receipt of that submission. Do I have any other comments or concerns? Madam, Madame Chair, I apologize for interruption, but is Commissioner Cavalier making a motion to amend the minutes at this point?

No, I'm mo u commenting that the record is not accurate. Just wanted to make that clear. So, is this a um is this a good place for a point of order? Because we've like I I understand what's happening, but we'd already discussed this particular point and made it um clear that because they were not presented in advance of the meeting that they would not be for the record. So, I'm just trying to clarify. So, that's my point of order.

Madam Chairperson, if you'd like if you'd like me to speak to the legal uh stance of the county uh the county staff, I'd be happy to. Yes, please.

So, commissioners, as we discussed at your last meeting when this came up, the legal stance of the county staff is that the complaint was submitted at a point in the agenda at the November 18th meeting where there was no business to be conducted. First of all, second of all, as you will remember from your training just a week or so ago, we discussed minutes and information that is included in minutes is relevant to the business of the planning commission. The document that was submitted is a complaint directed to the county and county administration and does not have anything to do with any business that was pending with the planning commission or before the planning commission. Therefore, the decision was made by administration legal to keep them out of these proposed minutes. But as I just stated, if Commissioner Cavalier is looking to amend minutes, this is the time because these are draft minutes prepared by staff. All right. So, um, we have a, um, a motion before us to accept the November 18th. We have a motion and a second to accept the November 18th, 2025 regular minutes as amended in this.

I don't believe I don't believe he's making a motion to amend, Madam Chairperson. I believe it's these are already amended minutes, not an additional amendment. They were already Okay. Just want to make I just want to make sure we're being clear that there's no amendment on the table. Okay. Correct. Correct. Um so um a show of hands to approve the minutes as presented in our package. That's 54 and one against. So motion passes. Um next item on our agenda is approval of the minutes from the December 16th, 2025 regular meeting. Do I have a motion? Motion to approve. I have a second. Second. Um any comments?

Yes, ma'am.

Um Miss Richards and uh the commissioners, I would like to clarify that the minutes that you are approving had some minor changes from the ones that were published with the agenda. Um Commission Commissioner Tinklenberg had some requested changes to add a little bit more information and to clarify some things. you were able to you have that we we emailed it to you and you have it in your packets to review those. Um there were no um significant changes other than her wanting a lot more information in her section there and we did that to her um satisfaction. But I did want to um make note that they were um slightly different than the ones published with the agenda.

So has everyone read the revised minutes? Right. So, we have a motion and a second to approve the December 16th, 2025 um regular meeting minutes. Um show of hands to approve. Um passes six to zero. Um next item on the agenda is the minutes from the January 8th, 2026 workshop. Do I have a motion to approve? I have a second. Second.

Do we have any comments or questions? All right. Um, show of hands to approve the January 8th, 2026 workshop minutes as presented. Passes six to zero. Thank you. Um, next item um on the agenda is um citizens comments. Um, we received Hold on a second. I have like too many stacks of paper on my desk. rid of that. Yes. Um so we did receive um a few email comments um that were basically um regarding um um wanting to see um curbed growth in the um in the Indian land area and to have more public input to that. Uh there was one email from Ed um Kuseno and one from Susan Thomas, but that was the general gist of them. We've also had um um a couple of citizens sign up to um to speak during this. Um we ask um that you address the planning commission as a body and not any individual commissioner. When your name is called, please come up to the dis adjust the microphone as needed. State your name and address for the record and you will have three minutes to address the planning commission and your time will start after you have stated your name and address. Can we please ask the rest of the audience to refrain from interrupting the speakers? So would Miss Janine Clifton approach? Thank you.

Thank you. Hi, I'm Janine Clifton again, 2023 Oliver Terrace, Indian Land, South Carolina, and I'm here about the development on Barberville Road and Fort Mill Highway that just continues to go on. Um, so I know um I'm being heard and I am grateful to the city council and for their followup and their responses. Um, but we need to hear from you too. And I'm here today each have a one pager in front of you. The one pager is the new filing that was put in place on Friday and what they're posting on their advertisement at the same time. They're two different developments. So, this continues to be, in my opinion, a bait and switch um with one bad plan after another. So, it turns out their minor subdivision was illegal and invalid. And we've been saying this for five months since they tore down the trees. Um, they got building permits anyway, even after we were lied to and we were told no permits were issued. They just filed the new minor subdivision plat, which is the version you have in front of you, the pretty one, not their advertisement. And now they've drawn a ridiculous stick of flag um stick of a flag lot to recombine again to avoid putting this awful plan in front of you for as long as possible. It's not even the plan they intend to build. Again, you got the advertisement. I keep showing it to you and it has never changed in two years. When you rejected it, that's the exact same plan you rejected. They were going to come to you today, but that plan, even the one they have, minus this filing, is still incomplete

and not compliant. So, I'm asking you to keep this in mind. Remember, I've been here. Remember, we were together more than a year ago. Construction is progressing. That development, that building, its end of lot line is 10 feet away from my neighbor's house. Look at those numbers. 20 foot buffer. They're putting a school and retail in there. Slab goes down. Piping is in place. Holes are being dug for footings. The previous subdivision has been amended, but the building permit issued under the old subdivision and plan has been cancelled. There's no new traffic impact analysis is required by the UDO. The subdivision application says flag lots are not allowed, but they're doing it anyway with the staff's blessing. All of this while the UDO unequivocably says that a subdivision shall not have direct driveway access to thorough like Barbill. So they shouldn't even be allowed to do anything because there's a variance that needs to be filed. My neighbor had to get a variance for a swimming pool. These guys don't have to get a variance even for this. But that means they got to bring this in front of you. So who is aiding in abetting this? Who's giving the permits? who's allowing a h this to happen and please help us. I don't know what else to do. Thank you.

Um thank you Miss Clifton. Um the next speaker is Alan Spar. Hello commissioners. Thank you for hearing me. Uh, my name is Alan Spar, 46115 Chickity Lane, Unit 202, Indianland, South Carolina. Uh, I'd like to speak of on the uh item of the uh CF Smith Harris uh plot. Uh they're looking to uh do a large uh building project there, which I'm sure you're aware of. and uh the the infrastructure and uh resources in that area cannot support that that type of additional construction to what's already been there. Uh uh my understanding is that you've turned them down the last time, but I want you to uh I've understood that there's been um people uh that want to get this uh project going into some of the other neighborhoods that are close by and trying to get people to change their minds and support them. Please do not allow this to happen. Thank you.

Thank you. Uh Mr. Spar. The next speaker is Libby Sweet Lambert. Did I get it right this time? Almost. Okay.

I am Libby Sweat Lambert, 3480 Activity Road, PO Box 4, Van Wik. Um, once again, I'm here asking you to take care of those of us who live here. We are being inundated in my part of the world by two different companies who are wanting to put lots and lots of houses. What is it 1,400 houses around us and we don't have the infrastructure in place. We don't have capacity to serve the people who are here now plus the projects that have already been approved. The moratorum for some reason did not affect the eastern side of 521 where these two projects are. It stops within a mile of the first project. For two and a half months, I've been waiting on a letter from county council explaining to me why the moratorum did not come down the eastern side of 521. Haven't gotten a response yet from anyone. No one will answer me. But the problem is, letter or not, we don't have the infrastructure in this room. At the last county council meeting, I stood up and I asked for a moratorum for this part of 521. And afterwards, and this is startling to me, afterwards a head of one of the departments for Lancaster County walked up to me and said, "I hope you get the moratorum because the growth is killing us." Do you find that startling? I do. I

really do. When department heads are saying the growth is killing us, we need to be listening for residents here in the community. We see what's going on. Clear cutting right and left. People just throwing up houses. Three days after pouring concrete, the house starts. The national best practice for home building is pour a slab and wait 30 days. Isn't it scary that houses are being thrown up like that and then you wonder why there are lawsuits after lawsuits after lawsuits against housing projects that are building that way? Take care of those of us who are here now, please. and please take care of those who will be buying the houses if they're approved. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Sweat Lambert. Our next speaker is Barbara Scanell. Before I start, can I just say one thing? It's hard to hear some of the folks on the planning commission and I'm sitting right up front and I have no problems with my hearing. So, I'm just letting you know it might be more. So, can hear the our attorney. Great. Okay. My name is Barbara Scanell. I live at 8016 Carolina Lakes Way in Indian Land. I am here today to speak to you about the UDO. I know some of you are serving on the committee that's looking at the UDO and I served um working for three cities. I served on technical review teams and I dealt with first responders,

water and sewer and traffic. So I've got just enough to be dangerous. Okay. So the thing is is we are in the process of doing this. I am asking you again because it's a policy situation is that we include a master transportation plan and um storm water plan in the county. and to also include requirements that are applied to all um applications that come in throughout the entire county for right turn lanes, left turn lanes, whatever that we can legally do that they be included in the UDO because I know time and again you have heard developers say SC DOT didn't require it and also the UDO doesn't require it. So we don't have to. We need to get that corrected because if not it's just going to keep happening and it affects all of us because if developers don't have to contribute guess what who gets to pay for it all of us and you are us as well. Second thing is on that technical review committee we looked at the impact on operations not just and I appreciate the planning department they're limited by what the policies are we need to start looking at operational impact and it is legal because other jurisdictions in this state are doing it which is rather than me asking for FICO and having to uh I'm sorry not FICO that's something else um foyer requests and having to pay to get the information to present to you that should be clued included in every packet. So for example, you get a housing request, what are the actual number of calls from fire, EMS, schools, you actual numbers and then that is determined whether we have the resources to take on this additional development so that you can base your decisions on that information as well, not just the closest school or

the closest fire station or the closest EMS. That is so important. Otherwise, we will never ever catch up and we're all affected by it. When you call 911, do you want an EMS unit to come out within a reasonable time? Because they'll tell you a lot of them are heading north to where I live in Indianland and then it's a, you know, a situation a domino effect who's going to call 911 and there's no unit available because they're up there or they're in other areas of the county. That is happening every day. So please, when you hear this information, please request that this information be added to the UDO. You don't have another bite at the apple for what another 10 years. This has to be added. Thank you so much for your time.

Thank you, Miss Canel. That is um all of tonight's speakers. Thank you all of you for your comments. We will now consider ourselves out of citizens comments and move to the next item on the agenda, which is public hearing items for recommendation to council. The first item is RZ 2025 2810 EMS facility catch us up right here. Good evening planning commission. So I will be presenting uh this case to you. This is a resoning request uh from the applicant is is Greg Bass which is the county's project manager as this is a county property uh located on Vanwick Road for 1.74 acres uh to construct an EMS facility. It is currently zoned medium density residential. What is being requested is institutional. Um so what you've got here on the slide is a is an aerial depiction of the zoning map. Uh it is difficult to see the subject parcel there because it's kind of the same color as that MDR color, but hopefully you can see that to show where we are. Uh it does have some surrounding residential districts uh that have treetops. That's the treetops community with that large that large MDR section. And there's one piece of institutional property and that is for uh Macedonia Baptist Church. And so uh you've got your use chart down there to show you your surrounding zoning districts as well as how they're currently being used. Uh the subject parcel does have availability for buffers since it's up against residential districts. It it has extended road frontage and access and um just because this property is located within the moratorum zone. I did want to give you the map of of where it is located and it is in that zone. However, because it's commercial in nature, it's exempt from its restrictions. This is a piece of the future land use map. from the comp plan. Uh you can see that the subject parcel is located there

in the rural designation. Uh institutional district is permissible within that FLU. Uh and then to further our objectives in our comp plan uh panhandle area 3.3 objective uh speaks directly to improving the the availability of emergency response services in the panhandle area which uh of course developing an EMS facility will answer that objective. And these are some photos from uh the sign placements here. Of course, the on the right hand side there you can see treetops and uh staff recommends approval of this request. And I'm here for any questions. Does anyone on the board have um questions for Dr. Willis?

All right. I do have question. So, um, as you ha have, you know, we've seen the, uh, comments from the comp plan, but have we gotten any, um, feedback or requests from the town of Van Wick to hear one way or the other how they're feeling about I know that they have I know that you all serve also as their development office, but I'm just curious as to whether you've heard anything from their council, from their mayor. How does this uh line up with what they're

No, they're actually their own town, so they they handle their development services, so we don't consult with them when they have resonings or anything like that. Um I have not spoken to them. This is a county property um in in the county, not in the town of Amwe. Okay. But I I yeah, I have not consulted with them, so I'm not sure if they would be how they would lean either way. Any other questions or comments?

Um thank you. So, we will now consider ourselves into public hearing. No one has signed up to speak on this item. So, we will consider ourselves out of um public hearing. You you signed up for Riverside. Oh, EMS. I'm sorry. They were out of order. I apologize. Yes, we have one person spoken signed up to speak. Um um uh Barbara Scanel, please come up. State your name and address for the record. I apologize. Barbara Scanell 8016 Carolina Lakes Way in Indian Land. I was want to speak to and I'm sure all of you are in agreement that we support this so much and not only for Indian land but as I stated in um the citizen comments for the entire county and I just really wanted to let you know how important this is and I gave you this before you've seen it all before the MS calls. This was actually from last year's budget retreat information that I got it from and from foyer requests. And you see there are thousands of calls and at the uh meeting last year they said 40% of those calls require transportation to a hospital. So this year I'm sure there's going to be even more. We're going to be getting those retreat pretty soon. Um and we'll probably getting the updated numbers. So this is important for all county districts and we hope that you will not only support this but any other requests that you get from EMS. I worked with EMS folks for over 20 years and I will tell you it is a very stressful job physically, mentally and emotionally and we need to support our folks as much as we can. So, thank you for hopefully approving this ahead of time and we look

forward to having more of these in the future so that everybody has emergency medical services available to them when they need it. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you, ma'am. Um, that concludes all of our citizens that um signed up to speak. So, we will now consider ourselves out of public hearing. Commissioners, you have before you RZ 20252810 EM facility. Um, do I hear a motion? Motion to approve. Second.

Second. Do we have any additional comments or questions? All right. Um so um therefore we have before us a first and a second for item number RZ 2025 201810 EMS facility. Um can I do I need to do a roll call vote or can I just do a show of hands? That's the um pleasure of the chair.

Oh okay. Well then let's do a show of hands to um approve. And it passes six to zero. So motion is motion passes unanimately. Um, this item will be referred up to county council for final decision and the applicant will be informed of the date and time. Next item on the agenda is public hearing items for planning commission decision and item SD 2024 1350 Riverside Single Family aka Riverside Manor. Madame Chairperson, if I may,

I want to remind the I want to remind the commission and let the public know that this matter is back on your agenda this evening by court order. Yes, ma'am.

Okay. Uh as was as stated uh this item tonight, Riverside Manor, uh here are the details for this preliminary plaque. So, it's located off Riverside Road, 251.51 acres. The applicant is Coulson Development. The intent is to develop 133 single family lots. Uh currently zoned rural neighborhood. On the left hand side of the screen is the notice map for the parcel which is outlined in red. Here are two site photos of the subject property. The one on the left is the aerial view. The one on the right is located off of Riverside Road looking at subject property. Uh this slide is the preliminary plant. This exact same slide and image from the last time you all heard this. Even the area on in red is when they made that final change uh changing up that intersection at and the phase three part of the development and the connectivity index is 1.5. Now looking at the technical review committee the applicant submitted the most recent version of the site plan on August 6, 2025 and the TRC completed their review on August 18th 2025. Uh the following are the only two not approved comments. The first was from the school district uh stating that due to currently approved residential projects in progress existing schools will be at or near capacity. Uh and from the planning department uh we had an approved status but that's more so uh procedure and clarity. Uh it's not based on code compliance. We had a lot of confusion with developers for they would get an approval from the TRC and thinking that their project was approved and then found out they had to be heard before you all because save South Carolina planning commission's final say on preliminary plats then receive a denial. So just not giving them the uh TRC approval up front clarified a lot of that and this at the time meets uh all the requirements of the UDO. Uh looking at infrastructure in the area, the closest SCOD trip count is a little over

a mile away from the subject parcel. Uh with in 2024, the average daily trip count was just under 1700 and it's in the Van Wike Fire District and that station is located off off of Old Hickory Road. Looking at the schools that would be affected in this area, they would be uh Irwin Elementary, uh Arucker Middle, and Langster High School. Uh in terms of the comprehensive plan, it's designated as a rural future land use. Uh so this proposal would be consist with consistent with the future land use and the comprehensive plan. At this time, staff is recommending approval of this proposed by right preliminary plan. I'm available for questions and know the applicants are also here as well if you have any for them.

Commissioners, do you have any questions for staff? Um I would like to ask whether or not the um so when we denied it 5 to2 the Miss Kurin can you speak into the microphone? Can you hear me? Sorry. Can is that better? Yes.

Okay. So last time we denied it 5 to2. Um and one of the violations was the failure to satisfy SCOT requirements that access doesn't meet the safety standards. So, I'm just curious as to whether that's been resolved and what that looks like. Now, um you know, per our official plan review comments, um the reviewer provided a conditional approve approval which said that encroachment permit would not will be required for the project and that the proposed access location shall not be considered approved until site distance and spacing requirements are met. So, where are we on that? So typically that is not fully addressed until uh civils and sometimes we've even had civils that go through uh they close to approval then DOT comes back and they've said that well even though the preliminary plat has it approved the axis is approved this way and everyone else has approved the uh civils up to this point DOT after even like a second round of decided that they need to change the axis that doesn't meet sighteline distance and then they have to do a minor amendment which would not go before you all to uh change the access location.

But for us um SE DOT's conditional approval is not an approval. So like how are we going to reconcile that because our job and I thought as the planning body is and let me make sure that I have the correct verbiage here. I want to make sure um our um job, let me make sure, sorry, is that the applicant bears burden of demonstrating full compliance with all applicable UDO provisions and we we our body's job is to make sure that all of those have been met. So I will clarify that the key words in there is UDO and this does meet all of the requirements of the UDO. The the state agencies have their own purview and although they sit in on our TRC, we cannot rely our approvals on others agencies as their things sometimes change. But by your own reading of that, it meets all of the requirements of the UDO.

And we have a statutory duty to deny applications that do not comply with adopted standards. South Carolina code um A&N 620 11:30. I'm just trying to check the boxes because we unanimously denied it last time. So I just need to make sure that what we're doing is not

right. And and as Matt said, those the DOT requirements come in at the civil review. So if there's something that doesn't meet their requirements, they will have to adjust their civil plans to to fit that at this po at this point. And I believe during the other um statement of this case, Matt had reached out to DOT to confirm that for you guys. And I believe that that was addressed at the other hearing as well. Can you confirm that? I'd have to follow up. I'd have to look through. Yeah. Probably wouldn't be tonight. Thank you.

Yes, ma'am. Um, I guess my question is what are we being specifically asked to do? So, so your task um was discussed with you in your executive session. Um I was not privy to that. So you have that direction from the county attorney administration. The the court document specifically stated that you were to review this case and ensure that it met all of the requirements for the UDO.

Thank you. Um, I guess my hesitation, um, in this is that it seems a lot like we're just being asked to rubber stance something when I know we're also called to make decisions on what is best for the community. Um, I wholeheartedly agree with our previous decision. Um, just leave it at that. I I would like to ask a question of our attorney.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay. Thank you. Um, this is backed by court order and I would like to know if are there any consequences if we vote against it? The court order as stated by director Williams stated that this would be remanded to the planning commission for consideration and approval provided it met all the requirements of the unified development ordinance. That is the order of the court. So your charge is to determine whether it meets all the requirements of the unified development ordinance which I believe staff has already indicated in their report in their presentation that it does. If you were not to abide by the court's order and what it says, then the potential would be contempt. So, I just want to make it clear to the residents of Lancaster County that we are under order to approve this tonight because it does meet all the requirements of the UDO. And it does not matter if we feel that there are other items that would make it safer for the community. We must vote to approve this regardless of any misgivings we have that were not covered by each and every line of the UDEO. Is that correct?

The court order states that if the planning commission finds that it meets all the requirements of the unified development ordinance, then it shall be approved. That is how the court order reads. Yes, ma'am. Madam Chair, if you're done this loop. Yes. I was just going to say I wanted the residents of the county to know what the situation that we find ourselves in and why we vote the way we do tonight. Yes. Uh Mr. Matthew, would you restate if the UDO is met? Yes. Currently, current site plan. Yes, sir. Thank you, Matthew. Yes.

Thank you. Um, I would like the record to please indicate our concerns for safety. I would also like for the record to indicate the need to update our UDO to include a street buffer yard and the definition of through lots. Thank you. I would also like to um point out something that Matthew brought up um and it's come up during the conversation and for us to remember this isn't the final design. Once they finish civil drawings it does have to go through another review and when SC do goes through and does their final thing at that point in time they may come up and say that the entrances are unsafe and things have to be designed. So just remember this is a preliminary plat and is not the final say. This is not the final design.

And I may I make one more well I think I know the answer to this but I would like clarification for myself and all the residents of the county. If all the requirements of the UDO are met and the schools that would be affected by this neighborhood are overcrowded and absolutely to capacity, we cannot consider that. Is that correct?

Since the county currently does not have concurrency standards in the UDO, that is correct. So, for everyone who asks why we approve things when the schools are bursting at the seams, under South Carolina law, we cannot consider that as a factor in turning a neighborhood down. Is that correct? Thank you. Thank you, Miss Lou. Would you like that on the record? Yes, absolutely. I was going to say I would love to have concurrency consideration on the records for a UDO update. Thank you, Commissioner. All right.

So, just as a as a point there, Miss Kuritan, um concurrency, there currently is legislation in the state house regarding concurrency. That would not make it a mandatory thing. So, that would be something that you would have to advocate to your council members for. No problem. Thank you. Any other questions? All right. Um, thank you, Matthew. Is the applicant here? Would you like to come up and address? If so, please come up and state your name and address for the record.

My name is My name is Earl Coen, 6023 in your land, South Carolina. And I was understanding that the last meeting y'all had, y'all turned it down twice before for turning lanes, which y'all had no authority to make on this thing. And that was all. I don't know why we we done met all the requirements and everything and why, you know, y'all responsibility to design turning lanes. That's DO's responsibility on the roads and stuff. And uh we we're just here trying to take us it'll take that project to complete should be completed in 29. So we it ain't it ain't something that's going to happen overnight out there on it. But my understanding last turndown y'all did back in July and August was for turning lanes. Y'all wanted two turning lanes. I agreed to put one. Then y'all said no I wanted two. So we we left them out. DOT didn't require any. We talked to them, went to them. So, I'm here. Any questions y'all would ask me, I'd be glad to answer it.

Questions for the applicant.

I guess the only question would be is I hope you do understand that we just try to do what's best for the residents of Lancaster County. Some sometimes I I say this overall on the county and I moved here been in Lancast been in Fort Mill for 35 years now and been over here. But for a county to be successful, you can't stop the growth. I know you need growth. You got your kids in school. Where they where they going to live at when they graduate from college? Every year, every town is growing. And I've seen and I've experienced a bunch of good things happening and it can be some bad things too if it's not properly designed on it. But I appreciate y'all looking after the county and all, but sometimes people get sidetracked, blinded by growth, but you got to have growth in order. You got to have the people here in order to get the schools great, get the fire departments, get the sheriffs, and get grocery stores and get business to grow. You got to have growth. If you ain't got bodies and heads, you'll never you'll be sitting here 10 years in the same condition you are right now. And that's that that's a tremendous job on y'all to approve that and prove it in a proper growth way. I you know, I've seen some areas that grow wrong, but but you got to have growth for if Lancaster to ever be successful. It needs the growth in the me for everybody to grow. We need a lots of medical. We need fire departments. I know we need a bunch of things out here. But like I say, if we don't get growth, we don't get they they come all of that people talking about we don't have facilities and fire department, but if you don't get the people here, you're not going to ever get that because the people pay for that and support that.

And I'm sorry to get carried away here, but I I just I I appreciate y'all job y'all doing. I done been through bunch of cities and stuff on I did 35 year 30 years in Fort Mill and seen how it's grown and it's been pretty successful. They've done a great job over there but it's grown out and the people there and I'd like to see Lancaster grow here and there's a bunch of things in the city of Lancaster and growth I'd like to see come in take place. Good growth stores, good restaurants, fire department, more policemen and stuff is but you got to have the people. If you don't get the people here, you're not going to get those.

Madam Chairman, I apologize for what might seem to be argumentative, but I consider it a clarification. I just ask the applicant, please do not misconstrue safety concerns with being anti-growth. That's all I ask. Yeah, I understand that. I know that. I know the roads and the DOT. I tell you DOT and all they do a great job of designing and over got to you know every every day we deal with it. Madam Chair. Yes sir. One question. Um as you stated sir thank you for coming back here again. I'm sorry. Thank thank you for coming back up here.

I appreciate y'all. Y I know y'all got a tough job and people you got a bunch of people out there looking at you. I always and I say this I learned a long time I used to build a bunch of churches and I found out if you complete if you please 51% of the the members you'd have done a great job. And that's same way with the county. If y'all can complete 51% of the county, y'all be done a great job. Sir, you had stated that in previous sessions that you would commit to a turn lane for it. And I'm asking, would you consider to still build that turn lane?

I if DOT, we talked to them about it. Uh if we get out there and we feel like we need it, but I went out there on the count on the car. I counted out there one day for 30 minutes counted 16 cars on the car. It's not traffic out there is not it may grow into into it out there. And and and I'm not trying to pressure you that you have to. We understand the DOT is not requiring it right now or it's not part of the site plan. I'm just asking you on your previous statements if you would still consider that.

I I'd consider it um on it. We And you talk Let me let me bring one more thing out y'all brought up. You brought one of y'all lady brought like a buffer. You needed buffer on the road. If you look at the plans, those houses are 250 foot deep. They over 100 ft off the road. And we will landscape upside the road. It'd be it ain't going to be you houses out there. They going to sell anywhere from 3/4 to a million dollars. They not going to be cheap, but the house is lots 250 foot deep. They going to be 100 foot off the road back there and stuff. It ain't going to be like cars driving in the backyard or nothing. So, but it it will when you get through it will be a nice subdivision. I can assure you that. We'll probably put crepe myrtles all up and down the road there and landscape the road up through there. But,

okay. Oh, I want to be here. I want I want to I'm I'm here in Lancast. up in Fort Mill for 35 years. I'd like to be here another 35 years if the good Lord leave me alone. Amen. Mr. Coulson, do your grandchildren live here? Do your grandchildren live here?

My daughter, my son, and my grandkids all live at Fort Mill, but I got my son and daughter live right here in Lancaster on Paging Road. And one of them lives on Kershaw on 309. One lives on nine. And I'm I live out here. I moved in into in the area. So we we're here to and I'm wanting to I'm wanting to move my office here. I put a contract on a building here, move my office in here the first of March. So I want to bring my whole company people. We got we got about 25 I think 25 26 employees right now working here. So we want I want this I've seen towns like this grow and I want to be a part of it. I'm not Thank you, sir.

I'm not coming in here to hit you and leave you. be here. I'm a little builder, a small one, but I'm we'll be around. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Anything I can do, you feel free to call me. Thank you, sir. Um, we will now consider ourselves into public hearing. And we've had one person sign up to speak, Miss Barbara Scanell.

Barbara Scanell, 8016 Carolina Lakesway. I can appreciate the situation the planning commission is and how you're going to have to vote tonight. I also heard and I was here when the planning commission discussed the right turn lanes and it should be not only right turn lanes at every entrance but left turn lanes as well. I live in Sun City. The back entrance along Van Wike Road does not has an entrance into Sun City. It does not have a right turn lane or a left turn lane into Sun City. and people fly down that road. I went and drove on that river road. I don't know what time the um the developer rode down it, but when I rode down it, I saw lots of traffic and people had to stop short to make left turn or right turns and it was dangerous. And it's dangerous up by where I live. And the more and more development that comes in, I understand the COD doesn't require these things. Again, we need to include a master plan into for traffic study and requirements in our UDO. SED do if it's in our UDO, from what I've been told by SE DOT, they will take that into consideration. If it's not in there, this is what you're going to get. We don't have to because SEO said no. How many more accidents are we going to have? not just up where I live but across the board in all the districts because there's not standardized requirements the school district we have to include like I said operational impacts on other organizations like schools also as far as our sheriff fire EMS we've had more growth than they can handle now we've got over 7,000 more units already approve approved in Lancaster County that are still to be built We've got thousands more approved by the city of Lancaster that have already been approved that are going to be built. We

are already overwhelmed. All our first responders are overwhelmed right now. So it's not, oh, build more houses so you'll get more EMS. You'll get more fire. You'll get more sheriff. No, the thing is every year at budget, the poor county council members have to figure out how the heck are we going to provide services? we don't have the money to provide the services that we need to provide. So the bottom line is I disagree strongly with what the just gentleman just said that says you will build more and they will come. No, you build more, we don't have more money to provide for them. So I appreciate the situation you're in. I understand how you have to vote, but please add things into the UDO operational impacts on services and onroads and storm drainage and also other agencies like schools that have to provide services. They are overwhelmed now in more areas and it's just going to keep coming. We don't have the money to buy the addition to build additional schools. So, thank you for your time in which you do and thank you to staff as well. Um, thank you, Miss uh, Miss Canel. Um, that concludes all the citizens comments and we will now consider ourselves out of public hearing. Commissioners, we have before us SD 2024 1350 Riverside Single Family aka Riverside Manor. Do I hear a motion?

Motion to approve. A second. Second. All right. So, we have a motion and a second. Um um so may I please have a roll call vote.

Jason Cavalier four. Yim Kuritan against Lynette Henson approve. Judiana Tinkllinberg against Michelle Richards for Francis Lou

to avoid being charged with contempt for motion passes 4 to two. Um this is a final decision by um planning commission. So, um, this is the final decision on this item. The next item on our agenda is a non-hering item, um, capital improvement plan presentation. Good evening. My name is Josiah Park and I'm the budget analyst for Lancaster County's finance department. Okay. In tonight's information session, I'll be walking you through the annual updates to the capital improvement plan and the planning commission's role in that process. To begin, here's a quick recap of capital planning. The purpose of capital planning is to create a thriving community for our residents. One way we do this is by building and maintaining infrastructure to deliver public services so residents can flourish in our community. Residents can in turn can help county council and staff identify problems and needs in the community. Residents can also provide the representatives with ideas and solutions to problems they encounter. County council can then identify priority capital project needs and set an agenda to appropriate funding for projects. County staff can then implement these projects and report on the status, management, and flow of funds through these and through and for these projects for their life cycle. The capital improvement plan or CIP is a 10-year plan that sets out council priorities in the form of capital projects. However, it is important to understand that the CIP is only a planning tool. So, council is not obligated to commit the funding to the

funding sources and amounts as identified in the plan. A capital budget is adopted as part of the annual operating budget by an ordinance. Projects are heavy equipment with $100,000 or greater value are identified for the CIP. These are f there are future operating budget implications when a project or piece of equipment is approved. For example, the construction of a new facility will carry recurring annual costs beyond that which is laid out in the CIP, such as costs for staffing the facility, utilities, as well as upkeep and maintenance. There are variety of ways to fund capital investments. These can include among others borrowing in the form of bonds, the collection of taxes and fees, increased millage rates, as well as the use of cash savings. Again, council is not committed to the funding amount, and these sources when adopted when adopting the CIP annually. The selection of the funding source thus can have a larger cost implication for the county's operating budget.

Mr. Parker, can I get you to start over and did you tell us what the what capital improvement projects are to be used for? Like what is the overarching definition for them to Absolutely. So capital capital projects are there as I said in my first slide actually can I go back?

Oh that's cool. Okay. So, capital planning in uh in the abstract is to create a thriving community and build it maintain that infrastructure to deliver public services. So, if you're thinking of a capital project that's anything $100,000 or more that it can be depreciated over a period of time. Does that make sense? It does.

Okay. Okay. Looking ahead at our CIP timeline, we can see the past budget process saw finance myself coming to you in March of last year and presenting the list of current unfunded CIP projects as well as new projects requested by department directors for the upcoming fiscal year. You would then consider and recommend a list of priority projects to county council. New for this year, the planning commission may also recommend new projects for this process as well. We'll discuss this in depth in a moment. After the planning commission completes the recommended list, the county administrator reviews and recommends a list of their own. Both lists providing provided by the planning commission and the county administrator are then forwarded on to county council for consideration. Finally, in June, county council will adopt a revised version of the current CIP as part of the county's operating budget. Okay, this slide shows a graphical representation of the planning, development, adoption and monitoring steps of the CIP. Please note that the role of the planning commission in this development process as noted with the star shown. So you can see that planning commission reviews, suggests, ranks and recommends capital projects. Now we can discuss the new development for the upcoming budget cycle. As you may remember, during the FY26 budget cycle last year, planning commissioners provided feedback to both planning and finance staff that you desired to have an expanded role in the development of the annual capital improvement plan revision, namely the ability to recommend new projects for inclusion in the CIP. Through collaboration with both the county administrator and the planning department, we can now provide a means for commissioners to recommend new projects for the upcoming annual ranking exercise. Commissioners should use the capital project request form, which I'll show in a moment, to recommend new projects. Please note that the deadline of February 5th for these submissions. These suggestions will then be paired down to the five most viable projects

and then submitted to finance by March 2nd for inclusion in the CIP ranking exercise that we will do in April along with all new or unfunded projects. Okay. Our action items for you this evening are to use the Google form again, which I'll show in a moment to suggest any new projects to planning staff for evaluation by February 5th. Engage with planning staff to develop those ideas into new capital projects by March 3rd. And finally, prepare a ranked list of CIP projects to submit to the county administrator when I return in April of uh April 21st. So, if we could yeah toggle over to the form right quick. Okay. So, I do have one more question. So, we you you talked about them being um uh advantageous to the entire community. And I think I struggle because there's like we don't get real definitions of what an ad a project that is advantageous to the whole community. We don't get what that means. similar to what Miss uh Commissioner Tinkberg was talking about on our thoroughfare issues. So, you know, we typically might talk about fire trucks or we might talk about a EMS facility, but I I'm looking at or when I think about capital improvement over years that we're going to pay out, I'm thinking about cultural arts facilities. I'm thinking about amphitheater theaters. I'm thinking about um green space, you know, places that are going to bring us all together. And because and this is not not has nothing to do with you, but because we don't have any coordination with the city, we

don't get to understand from a holistic standpoint what Lancaster could be, which is frustrating for me. So, I'm just I'm I'm struggling with and I love that you have brought this early and I certainly appreciate you and your entire uh department for having done that, but at this point I'm I'm just um not there yet mentally on how on what kinds of things we could bring to the table. We could be amazing, I'm sure. Um, but what amazingness look like looks like is undefined in my mind at this point.

So, I'm going to step in there for just a second if that's okay, Mr. Chair. Um, that is one of the reasons that we're bringing that to you. One, because you requested it um to be have this part, and two, so that you can if you have those other items and other projects that you think that would be viable, you you can fill out this form. do do the project. Um it it could be simply that as a department head they're focused on their individualized needs. So say fire is going to request capital improvement projects of buildings or fire trucks or things that they need to do their job. Um there there isn't a a by the book strict definition of a capital improvement project other than it has to meet a certain amount of money. it has to align with the comprehensive plan and or the strategic plan of the county. Um that is also why everyone produces their lists of things that they see as needed and and useful for the county and why that and why the planning commission is tasked with reviewing those and vetting them in priority as well as the administrator. And ultimately council looks at those and sees what is the overall important the the most important in ranking. Um simply sometimes a a apparatus is unfortunately higher on a priority than an amphitheater or something like that simply because as we've noted tonight we have need for those. um it doesn't take away from those important other important projects and those recognitions that we need something. Um so that is why we're hoping that as a planning commission you can go go back and take this form and and do do the background work on some of those important projects and and bring them up

both to the administrator's radar and to council as well. Yes. Thank you.

Um thank you April. I first of all want to say thank you so much for being here tonight, for making sure that we're hearing this. Um I think that I I just I love that you're here and you've heard our request over the last couple years and you're involving the planning commission in the process. Um that's wonderful. I think though that asking us to make decisions to be submitted no later than our one time of month to discuss it on the first Thursday. That's our workshop date. So I would love though for us to have the opportunity to discuss it collectively within the commission. I know what Indian Land needs, but I would love to hear from my fellow commissioners about what's going on in the other parts of the county in which they represent, which I don't know unless I hear from them. So, is there the opportunity to extend that deadline? Um, so we have the opportunity to collaborate and discuss it so we can come up with our goals for the CIP and our projects.

So, you're jumping a little bit ahead of Josiah on his presentation. Okay. There there is a set plan for that. Um, okay. This he's trying to get you to what you need to do. Yeah. First, I just saw the deadline of our same date of our workshop.

It's going to be it's going to be that deadline. Um, because statutoily we have time frames. But if you if you let him finish, he's going to explain how you have that chance to have the discussion because the plan is each one of you will act as a department head and you will prepare and present your your envision CIP projects. If you want to do one, if you want to do 12, that's up to you. You will turn them in on the 5th. Staff will review it, vet it for you to make sure it's a complete application. And then at the February planning commission meeting, that will be our time where we review them, discuss them as a group, and you narrow down your five. So if you have a hundred, you're going to be here all night on February because you're going to be discussing and reviewing them as a group and vetting those and narrow them down to five. And Josiah, I'm sorry that I'm taking away some of your thunder there, but so so that is what what we're doing. um budget and finance has their own deadlines that they have to get everyone's from the county and start the same process. So that's why we have to stick to this timeline, but you will have that opportunity to discuss your plans, see what's best, vet those out, and rank all of your projects.

Okay, I might have more thoughts. I Let's finish and then we'll see where we end up. Thank you. Thank you.

Um Okay, so we're looking right now and I believe you can see on the screen the form that you will be submitting. Um, it's got instructions for submission to the planning department. And just please ensure that all fields are completed, including the project description, project type, as well as any one-time or recurring cost estimates, uh, as well as any supporting documentation you may have. Also, we have a a box up there that you can check for the strategic alignment that it aligns with. So, getting back to Miss Guritin's uh, point about looking to the future and looking to what we're trying to do as a county, that's a great place to represent that as well. Okay. Okay. So, can we go back to the um and this will this will be emailed out to you uh tomorrow morning um by planning staff. So, just look out for that. Okay. Oh, almost.

That's okay.

It's okay. Oh, there we are. Fantastic. Lastly, we can see the updated budget calendar dates. The full budget calendar calendar is also available as a handout uh for this uh it is available in handout form on the um Langster County Finance website if you like um for further. Uh also I can uh send a copy of it to April to send out with to you tomorrow if you prefer. Uh but please note the dates in red uh and of course they're not in red up here. That's okay. And see how the planning commission's efforts fall within the framework of the overall budget development cycle. The upcoming project submission deadline as mentioned is February 5th. Please use the link that will be emailed to you tomorrow for any suggestions. Uh next, we request that the planning commission selects their final five projects uh for submission to finance. Uh so this is after you've done your deliberations and your workshop or whatever you need to do uh by March 3rd. And finally, I will return on April 21st to facilitate your final rankings of all all of your five projects that you come come to, but also any new uh or unfunded u projects that have have been submitted by county staff, department directors, and so forth. Thank you for your time and attention. Your work as always is very important to us and we're here to assist you. And now I can answer any questions hopefully.

At what point? So on that date where we narrow it down to the five, right? We prioritize the five that planning has come up with. Is that correct? Yes, ma'am. And when do we the planning commission? This this is your That's what I meant. Planning commission. Thank you. Um, at what point do we see the other uh requests that I guess the staff has put together? Not planning staff, but I guess all of the staff,

right? So, any new um projects. So, there's there's two categories for you to consider of other projects beyond your own. There's unfunded projects, and those are things that you've probably ranked last year that did not pick up a funding source. Again, the CIP is not binding in that way. So, they have to have approval um for specific funding sources to move forward. Um so, some of those projects will be familiar and they'll still be there and you can still rank them as you did last year with the addition of these new ones. Uh on April 21st, I will be coming back with the full list from uh county uh department directors as well. Um give me just one moment. I believe I could probably send a list of the ones before that just for them to look at.

So, so that will be something that is discussed at the February meeting as well. Um Jamie and I have already Jamie our our budget director um has already discussed us getting that together. It's a little ahead of time for them, but they're they're going to make those um allowances. And one of the things that planning staff will do between February 5th when you have to turn them in and that February um planning commission meeting is is go work with Jamie to note that if some of your projects that you've submitted are duplicates of say if Parks and Rex also has a a vision for an amphitheater and they're and they're duplicates. Um, one of the things that we have noted and planned is that if there are duplicates, we're only going to list it once, but we're going to make a notation that this was a department head as well as a planning commission request to note that more than one person noted that. Um, we won't include any duplicates on the full list that you review on April 21st, but that will be what we discuss on February, the February planning commission, um, your request if there are duplicates or any of those things. So you you'll have that as well.

I guess the reason I'm saying is not that I don't want to put any time and effort into anything coming up with a vision before February 5th. But if I came up with um let's say five projects and one was a playground in this part of the county and one was this and one was that kind of like those whether it's amphitheater or playground or a park and so forth. If I see items similar to last year, like fire stations and fire uh engines and things like that, I certainly would withdraw my playground. Although it's very important, something that is going to save lives as far as where we're we're woefully behind just seems like spinning a lot of wheels when there are some very critical things that are still unfunded. What what we can do is and Josiah correct me if this is something we can't do but we can include last year's CIP list with the email that goes out tomorrow to you guys. So the the worksheet will go out with you the report from last year will and usually those tend to roll over. Um we can't give you what's currently going on because at this time it the department heads are doing the same thing you're doing, right? So, we could give you last year's list so that you could look and compare, but I couldn't give you what's current because it's still

That would be helpful. I was almost going to ask if we could see last year's and what was funded and what wasn't funded before we um I don't mean to call it utopian, but it would be nice if we could have some of the nicer things, but when you say we have one fire station and we're supposed to have four, it's hard to say. And that I would also like the residents to know they're always saying we don't have a park in Indian land. We don't have this and that. Yes, we need those things, but you have to balance everything out. But anyway, that's why I was I'm only talking about the timing and that's fine that we can all come up with projects regardless. It's certainly not a waste of time to think of ways to improve your community. But I just thought it's difficult when we don't know what we're competing against.

I can I say something else? I'm sorry. I'm This might be really straightforward and I'm sorry if I'm just totally missing the punch here. Um what I'm hearing is that you want us to treat this individually from our districts and what our separate needs are. But I think that at least my point all along in the past years of bringing this up is that the whole point of the CIP budget and fund is what projects can help the majority of people in the entire county. So if we're not being collaborative and we're not hearing what each other thinks our needs are from the other districts, which I don't know unless I hear them, it kind of defeats the purpose. So, while I appreciate the presentation, I'm not sure it's completely meeting what our request originally was. So, I I guess that's what I'm held up on. And also, if you when you send the list, is it possible for you to send notation? Because I remember that some of these had um or some of the comments where we were going to also consider other funding for them. So if they are unfunded currently and we considered other funding sources but those funding sources didn't get through then we would like to I would like to know that because that means that those funding sources are they're unreliable. So yeah so then that changes the perspective a little bit. Is there can somebody answer my question please?

So short answer is you asked for this. We weren't clear. Um the the request that we had from you guys was that you wanted to be involved. You wanted to place that we met. We've had multiple meetings literally starting after the last EIP and the the consensus was that you guys would be treated as department heads because this is the same information that department heads get. If you if you feel that you want to have a meeting and make it collaborative as maybe a department head would ask their other staff to do that. That is up to you. We we set it what we thought would be best as an exercise. I will state that this is the first year that we've tried this new exercise. If it doesn't work, we can the day after the CIP stops this year, we can start adjusting and making it better every time. But we've tried to to fit into the schedule that's statutoily required to fit in this information that you've asked to do.

I hear and I hear what you're saying and it is absolutely appreciated. I don't want to take away from the intention behind it. It's my understanding that the CIP funds were supposed to be utilizing them when they become available for what helps a majority of the citizens in the county. So to best meet that goal, I think it should be collaborative. So however we go about doing that is all that I'm asking. I have a off-topic question. So, we only have two other things on the agenda. Are they going to be very quick or are they going to is there going to be some involvement? We've just got the deferred items and other

deferred is just deferred. There's nothing to say about that because it's still out there waiting. Um, and other is for requests of uh Commissioner Lou is on there for you guys. So that's what I'm asking is that I had someone say that they they needed a break, but can you wait if we're like this close to the end? Okay.

So I I will put this out there. We we made the schedule. We we thought that this was what you guys wanted. This is not statutoily required. So if if you don't like the procedure because because budget has to stick to a deadline. They have to do that. And that's why we've made it the way it is. If you if you don't like it, we can scrap it and start over next year or we can try it this way and then at the end as soon as it's over, we'll have a work session and you can say your likes, loves, your hates and we'll work on fixing it for next year. Could we perhaps just add a line item on our workshop to discuss it?

We could. Yeah. Um because we don't have that much on the agenda. We could do that. Um, so but you would have to get them to us quicker so that we could prepare those for that day. So that would back your deadline up a day or two. Um, but that would be on you guys. I we can do whatever. Um, but that would be that we could do that as an option if the chairman approves that agenda. I'm committed. I I would do that. Have it regular. Well, then let's add it to the Got it. and then we'll we will we'll do our part and get our part done earlier. So we we we understand that we are shortening our timeline to try to meet another goal.

Thank you. All right. Thank you so much. Thank you. All right. We will now consider ourselves out of nonhering items. Next item on the agenda is status of items that are tabled um recommitted, deferred, or held. Officially there is no action. We have not heard from this developer who requested this to be hel pulled. When we do, we will get it back on your agenda. Thank you. Um, next item on the agenda is other. Do we have any others tonight?

Madam Chairwoman, I would like to just clarify when for residents who are watching this, when we receive these letters or emails or so forth, I wanted to assure residents that we see them. Yes.

That they're not just Yes. Thank you. that when you send in an email, it's put on a citizen comment and every commissioner gets to see this. I was just at a presentation the other day where the belief was apparently it sounded like they felt staff looked at him and said we didn't get anything negative coming in and that was it. And I just wanted to assure everybody that every comment that is emailed in you, whether you are sitting here saying it or whether you email it in, we do see it. Yes,

Madame Chairwoman, I would like to echo um Commissioner Tinklinburgg's um comments, which I think I spoke about earlier, is to just making sure that we have a um a holistic understanding of what's going on in the county so we can make better decisions. But that also requires that we have cooper cooper cooperation cooperation or commitment from other entities as well. and we have not um that conversation has not happened. So um yeah, I still think it's a process. I think we're moving in a good direction. We're just not there yet and it might take a year or two to get it where it needs to be. Thank you.

All right. Any other comments? Um do I hear a motion to adjurnn? I'll make a motion to adjurnn. Second. Second. Um show of hands to adjurnn. Motion is approved. This meeting is adjourned. Thank you everyone for your time. Thank y'all.