Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Commissioner Biden uh will lead us in the invocation. Uh Commissioner Moore will lead us in the pledge. So, if you'd all please stand, we thank you for this day. Thank you for doing us all here in service of our great city. I ask that you bless our residents, bless our staff, bless our commissioners, community members. Ask that we would all use wise judgement. We would all lean on your word to make sound decisions for the sake of our city and people that live here in Jesus name. Amen. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. I may have the roll call, please. Chairman Bose, here. Vice Chair Dairberry, I'm here. Commissioner Burden, present. Commissioner Korea, present. Commissioner Aloa is absent. Commissioner Moore, present. And Commissioner Underwood. We have a quorum. Thank you. Couple of announcements. Public business from the floor. or any person who would like to address the commission on any agendaized item is requested to complete a speaker card for the recording secretary. Identify the item in which you wish to speak on and then each person will be given an opportunity to address the commission at the time the item is discussed or called by the

commission. Speaker cards are available at the rear of the chamber and there's a little box up here on the my left your right at the end of the day there that uh where you would deposit those. The process here, if for those of you who've never attended before, is that um if there's a public hearing, for instance, which we have on our agendas tonight, typically uh staff makes their presentation, applicants can make whatever comments they wish to make. Uh typically, we uh give them enough time to present their project or their concerns, whatever it may well be. And then we um staff may respond to that or the commission may have questions and then the um public has an opportunity to speak and then the applicant then at the end of that uh proposed item would have an opportunity to rebut whatever they choose to if they choose to. Applicants aren't obliged to present uh their their projects but they're certainly welcome to. So that's the procedure. Our first action item tonight is approval of the meetings of the regular approval of the minutes of the regular meeting of April 21st, 2025. I have a motion, please. I'll move that we approve the minutes from the regular meeting of April 21st, 2025. Thank you. Have a second. A second. Thank you. So, any questions or comments? I wasn't in attendance, but I'll certainly vote on them. I don't need to abstain since I've read them. So, um without objection, then please vote.

I think we've got the wrong So, you're going to have to reset it, I think. So, Miss Loa is not here, so she can't vote. So, to do it correctly, uh, could you reset it, please? And we'll revote. Thank you. All right, then. Please vote. I guess we'll take a little break here while we sort out the electronic. Okay, the motion passes. Six yeses and one absent, Miss Law. All right. Then the next item is a new public hearing. So without objection, the public hearing is open on revocation of conditional use permit number [Music]

23-005 and the deemed approved status of alcohol beverage establishment known as the King Bar. Um the applicant is Mr. Maida. if I'm saying that correctly. Uh Mr. Newan will be presenting today. Go ahead, sir. Hello. Good evening, class. Uh if you wait a moment, uh you haven't been called. Mr. New will be presenting and have an opportunity to I'm up right now, Sam. Thanks. Very good. Um, good afternoon, Cheros, members of the planning commission. My name is Hainuin. I'm the planning manager for the city's planning division. The first item is in regards to the revocation of CUP23-005 for the King Bar. Okay. So, this item was previously seen by the planning commission on April 21st. And here is a quick refresher. The existing bar, which has been in operation for many years, is located at 2822 East Avenue I. The site is located just north of the Leo Mobile Home Park, uh, near the southwest corner of 30th Street East and Avenue I, and the property is zoned commercial. The bar is considered legal, non-conforming, and an existing use at the site. Per the Lancaster Municipal Code or LMC, this grandfathered status is referred to as the deemed approved status of the alcoholic beverage establishment. The King Bar took over operation in November of 2020. Okay, here are a couple plans. Uh to the left is the site plan. You'll see in the top left corner is the parking lot and to the right is a floor plan of the bar building itself.

So, back in June 2024, the planning commission approved CUP 230005 and this allowed the King Bar to have indoor and outdoor entertainment or events. The conditions were specifically written to ensure adequate security measures were in place, ensure that the operation is nuisance-free, require compliance reviews by staff, and established protocols in the event that this operation is found to be in violation of the conditions of approval or city code. The applicant, Sam Mietta, Mr. Mietta, accepted these conditions of approval. Due to a series of recent events, the planning commission directed staff to conduct a compliance review in March. At the last planning commission meeting in April, the commission voted unanimously to initiate revocation proceedings, and that's why we're here today. Per condition number 12, staff is required to conduct a compliance review. And here's a quick overview of the condition compliance review. Um, the community preservation division has received zero new complaints. A building permit was filed and pending resubmitt from the applicant. According to the Lancaster Police Department, LPD, within the last year, there have been a total of eight calls for service. These calls are summarized in the staff report. And to summarize it here, the calls range from altercations involving patrons and employees to calls unrelated to the bar operation. Our March 1st, an unfortunate incident occurred on site involving assault with a deadly weapon with at least three victims and suspects in custody. Previous to that, on the Christmas morning in 2023, there was a similar incident which is under investigation still. The applicant is found to be in

violation of the listed conditions and code sections of the LMC for failure to ensure a nuisance-free operation and being detrimental to the public health and safety. Specifically, condition number 19 states that the commission may vote to um for the immediate revocation of the CUP based upon the facts and incidents. Uh these are grounds to revoke a the cup 230005 and b the deemed approved status of the alcoholic beverage establishment. With any approval of a cup, it requires adequate public notification. For a revocation, it's the exact same. Notification is complete with a signpost, a notice to the newspaper, and mailings to the property owners and occupants within 500 ft of the subject site. Letters to the applicant and businesses were also sent. To date, staff has received two emails regarding this item. Um, and that's included as attachment F to the staff report. Both emails express opposition to the bar operation stating concerns with noise and safety. To summarize, staff recommends that the planning commission adopt resolution number 256 for the revocation of CUP 23 uh005 and the deemed approved status of this alcoholic beverage estab establishment known as the King Bar and to find that this action is categorically exempt per the California Environmental Quality Act or SQA. That concludes staff's presentation. We are available for any questions and I believe the applicant Mr. Ma is present and ready to speak as well. Thank you. Thank you sir. Uh there may be questions of the commission before we proceed. Any anyone? I do have one just general question. Um is one can we put the slide

back up that showed like the potential violations and all of that or the the things that were violated? So yeah, this one um condition number 21. I'm I'm just curious like is this a condition that is kind of um for for all places that serve alcohol pretty much and not just in like is this a general condition of most places that operate? How do you how do you enforce something like that? I'm just I'm curious. Commissioner Barden. Um, as I mentioned, uh, in the staff report or the presentation, um, this conditional use permit was granted about a year ago, and there were certainly a lot of those types of concerns associated with this use and uses like it to be quite frank. Um, the conditions were specifically written um, for this particular operation at the King Bar. Um it's not something that's standard or general, but in general, um operators, whether it's a bar use, restaurant, or what have you, uh shouldn't create a public nuisance or be detrimental to public health. Um but staff um saw that these are concerns that the uh neighboring communities had and so we wrote specific conditions for this one, but no, they are not general conditions. Thank you. Uh you mentioned um under the municipal code uh calls for immediate revocation if it's a health safety or public nuisance or just public nuisance. Yes. Uh, chair votes, it it it's to the discretion of uh the chair and the commission uh which one um your body feels uh is appropriate in this case. I

see. Um so the ordinance does the ordinance require a public hearing on this matter? Chair Vos, anytime there is a proposed revocation, it has to be publicly noticed to give both the applicant and the surrounding uh uh residents to uh chime in on any decision. Very good. So, uh you mentioned in your I read in the staff report and listened to your synopsis this afternoon. So, all of those steps and procedures were taken up to this point. That's correct. All right. Very good. Just want to be clear and make sure it's in the record. We have received um correspondence, emails, and various um communications from neighbors as well as others. Would you care to summarize those? Of course. Um, as I mentioned in the presentation, we've received uh two emails regarding this item. Um, the first one was from a person named Elizabeth Hayward representing Sunrise Estates. Uh, that's the mobile home park located just south of Leo, which is just south of the uh the King Bar. Um, expressing concerns about noise and safety. Um, and then the second letter is from Katrina Williamson, I believe, representing herself, voicing the same concerns. Um, one of the things I wanted to bring up is uh the um what's considered an uh opposition and what's considered uh in favor or support. So, the way we're going to interpret it, um if you are in

opposition, then you are in opposition of the bar operation. Um, and if you're in favor, then you are in favor of the bar operation. I just want to clarify that because technically speaking, staff's recommendation is to um revoke both aspects of the King Bar. And so, uh, the matter of who's in favor and what does that mean, it gets a little confusing. So, for the sake of uh, this hearing, we'll say uh, if you're in favor of uh, if you've expressed that you're in favor, then you are in favor of the bar operation, the King Bar. If you're in opposition, then you are in opposition of the King Bar existing. Thank you. Very good. Thank you. This is a serious issue. Anything further from members, questions, comments? All right then. Um, our chief is here, police chief is here. Um there may be some questions for you after uh the applicant has an opportunity to address us and I hope I'm saying your name right again sir it's Maya is it you're welcome to address us and take enough as much time as is reasonable to uh tell us what you Good evening, sir. How are you? How are you again? Good evening, sir. How are you again? Um, my name is Sam. I'm here um for the public hearing about the King Bar. First, I want to appreciate everybody to give me the chance to talking to you guys and explain everything about the King Bar. uh like maybe like one years ago we was here and all of you you asked me about to make the be safety and for

security and now I have my home uh security I have like five people every every night five security guard every night and about and also like two week ago we hiring a patrolling security car to be at the parking lot because when this is one call happened about the fight. It was at the parking lot and not at the at the bar. Uh I don't know about the other uh nine call the 911. I don't know about it. Just today I hear it. Um I have now more five security guard every night plus the patrolling car plus two other like that's mean it's seven security guard for this bar. I don't want you thinking this is this is bad area or bad bar or bad business. It's not like that. But I try to follow the law as you want guys to make everything 100% safety and everybody have safety time over there and I'm sure I this everyone go there is my responsibility. I understand that. That's why I put more what they needed. And you ask me also about the security camera also already there for 32 camera all around the cover the bar inside and outside and recording for 30 30 days dependent recording for the the CUB approved also we make a policy for the bar that's mean nobody in and out nobody in and out also nobody hiding at the bar at the parking lot. You give everybody at the parking lot maybe 3 to 5 minute maximum because sometime like someone he come get his sister, his wife, his friend from the bar, they waiting at the at the at the parking lot maximum 3 to 5 minute at the parking lot. That's what

try to explain to you what is my security policy at the bar. We never hear anybody like almost two years now complain about the noise from our neighborhood. No noise, no at all. And when we are asking, we was asking the the CUB for outside door. Um and as I promised you last time, we say if we got approved, the noise will be 11:00 or 10:00. We shut down the music outside. Um I think this is the some point I explain. I'm ready for any question, guys. Any question, I'm ready to There may be some. I don't know. Members, anyone have any questions or comments? You do understand this is a public nuisance um hearing in effect. Um, and I've heard what you said, but how do you how do you address matters like attempted murder and shootings in your vicinity, in your parking lot in and around your bar, as well as those were obviously customers. Yeah. Okay. Sorry to say that but this shooting is happen everywhere. Of course I try to control that. I try this never happen but I cannot control the people. I do my best. I search everybody. I'm not allowed anybody come inside the bar without searching. We have like ID reader. We have like one we check by hand. But when this happened last time, this happened in second. Like the shooting happened in second. Somebody

grabbed the gun from the car. I cannot go to for nobody car. Uh I'm not happy when I think not only me, any business owner, it will never happen if some shooting happen in his spot. Of course not. Um we try our best. That's why now I got the the the security battling car to be be all around battling at the parking lot. I do my best to fence that. Of course, I'm not happy if this happen at the parking lot, but it's happened, you know, like I do my best, but I cannot control everybody. I cannot control people. I cannot go to somebody car tell him what you have in your car. You know, I I of course anybody inside my car, inside my bar, and he left my bar, I'm sure he 100% safe. He don't have nothing when he come in. Also when you go out no alcohol with him or something like that but when it will be out of cond when this last time happened happen end of my parking lot and happen in second you know and that's exactly what happened. All right thank you sir. Thank you any questions there. Yes go ahead and your seat and you'll have an opportunity to address us again after the other public comments. I wish I thank you. So, may I have public comments now, please? Cheros, we have seven uh public speakers. Um the first one is Marola Wright, followed by Cynthia Marie Wood. So, u Mr. or Mrs. Wright, you have the opportunity to address us for three minutes. So, Mr. Right. Come right on up to the podium. I'm a little nervous. I've never done

this before. You shouldn't be nervous. Well, you just Here's here's what you do. You look at us like we're in our underwear. All right. I'm a little bit better already. Well, you never know what you might see. All right. I'm Okay. Well, now I'm not nervous anymore. All right. Go ahead, sir. He's got My name is My name is Marvin Wright, and I've been in this in this valley since 1996. Um, I've seen how everything improved, me watching it grow, the the the whole Analopee Valley. And um, this bar that I come to, I've never had an issue with this bar. I really wanted, it used to be called the Trap. I never ever wanted to go into that bar because I saw it looked like dust till dawn. So I really didn't want to go into that bar. But when it was co happened, everybody was, you know, in their houses and everything. And then this bar I passed by. Well, actually I was introduced by another female. She wanted to go in and I saw him. He did amazing job on this bar. When I first went back there, it looked like uh dust till dawn, like I said. and the back. It wasn't it wasn't pleasant looking. And now that I um now that I I've been I've been coming to the bar for about five years and the guy that Sam Keem, he's a real good guy. I've never ever wanted to go to any other bar and I don't feel comfortable going with any other bar. And um what I'm trying to say is um the the bar that we're going to right now is not really I've never had an issue there. So I understand the shooting happened. I wasn't I don't know what happened. But um I've been I've I've been in this valley for a long time. Every other bar

that I've been to, I never stayed. But this one right here is not bad. I'm a single father and when I need to get out and you know go I only only can go out at night because I have to watch him during the day. My mom is able to watch them and let me go out and have a good time. So I play pool. We have pool tournaments. We cook food, you know, and it's just a good environment. So I don't think that anybody should have a problem with that bar. Um I I like this valley. I've been here for a long time. I played basketball for ABC. So I've seen everything grow. And right now I just, you know, I really we we're trying to be in compliance with the bar. I don't know all the legal issues, but it is a good bar and I like it now. I didn't like it before when it was a trap. You never I used to pass by it, but now I stay. So my name is Marvin and I'm still nervous, but it's a good bar. So, all right. Thank you for your comments. All right. All right. Next up is Cynthia Marie Wood, followed by Jason Mallister. Afternoon. Welcome. Thank you. Uh, so I am in favor of keeping the King Bar open. My name is Cynthia Wood. I'm the owner of Cynthia's Tax and Notary Service here in Lancaster. Uh, I'm here obviously to show my support to Sam King and the King Bar. I consider Sam a very dear friend of mine. Uh Sam does a lot of community outreach such as the voices for our youth which my company has sponsored and donated to be a part of. Uh Sam hosts the event in the uh outside area where the vendors come in, they help low-inccome and other uh people in our community that might not have the resources to information available to help them. They provide a meal for them, food to take home, and face painting for our kids. It's really an awesome event. I feel very comfortable and safe at the

King Bar. Uh Sam has done a wonderful job revamping the bar and its image. I actually used to work for the bar when it was the trap. Um I actually went home one night with a black eye from breaking up a fight uh due to lack of security at that time. Uh when Sam bought the bar from Ed and reopened as the King Bar, I went back work to working nights and never had any problems. Sam has uh plenty of security and proper security cameras in place and it just made me feel really comfortable. Unfortunately, I did have to leave because I had some health issues, but I do revisit uh the bar often because we have such a tight group of uh friends there. We're like family. Uh, I hope that you guys do reconsider the allegations and allow Sam to continue doing the business because as I've stated, it is a safe environment, a great place to gather and a community and events that are held are amazing. And for that, I am grateful and thank you Sam King for everything that you do. Thank you for your time. Thank you for your comments. Next up is Jason Mallister followed by Julie Anne Price. Good afternoon, sir, and welcome. Good afternoon. My name is Jason Mallister. Been in the valley since 1989. Went to school here. Owned a business uh since January of 03. Um my wife worked at the establishment for 13 and a half years back when it was the trap versus the King Bar. Um she just recently quit the stay home to take care of grandchildren. Uh during that time since it's been the King Bar, the security has tripled. Um, I never feel I feel I feel completely safe there versus like going to Walmart or Arco or um anywhere in our valley. I mean, at least over there, I know people are patted down. I see security guards presence constantly. Um, like she says, we're like family over there. I, you know, my

wife was part of the establishment. I'm a peer of the community. Um, I mean, I meet a lot of other business owners over there. I've never seen any any problems indoors. What happens in the parking lot happens at every other parking lot in this valley. Unfortunately, it's it's the community. It's not the location. It's just it's the people. Um I think everything else is pretty much covered. I appreciate your time. Thank you so much. Thank you for your comments, sir. Next up is Julie Anne Price, followed by Brandy Hundley. Afternoon. Welcome. Good afternoon, council. My name is Julie Price. I've been employed at the King Bar for more than three years. The King is my second source of income to make ends meet with the rising economic crisis that we're facing. I'm here today to show my unwavering support and urge the council to reconsider any actions that may lead to the closure of this vital establishment. The Analopee Valley is ridden with crime daily, and I don't believe an establishment should be scrutinized or must lose its business license due to the public menaces that plague the streets of Lancaster. The King provides a safe environment for its customers. Security detail has increased and remains alert to the surroundings of the bar patrons. Nervous. Sorry. This establishment has provided support to the community through community- based events and fundraising by supplying hot meals, school supplies for customers and haircuts to the elderly. There are several business establishments that the community that continually have crimes committed that are not being held personally responsible for those actions of the criminals and are not subjected to the same scrutiny. I encourage the council today to work collaborative collaboratively with the owner to find

solutions that allow the king to thrive rather than forcing its closure. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Next up is Brandy Hudley and followed by Christina. Good afternoon and welcome. Hello. Thank you. Um, first of all, I'd like to say that Sam King is the best owner because he's invested in his bar. He walks around all night long. I tell him, "Take a break, breathe." I'm there every weekend with my whole entire family. They go because we feel safe there. We The security is on their game. They um follow those that think that there's a problem and they solve it. Um Sam is always asking if everybody's good, if everything's okay, and he never sits down. He's inside, outside making sure everybody is good, like outside, in the back, not in the front. But the security handles the front very well. I had my daughter's 21st birthday party there, and it turned out great. Nobody bugs my daughters. They're younger. Um, it's very family friendly in there. Like, we'll just go in there to listen to music and hang out with people that we know from the bar. And it's a lot of fun every weekend. And we go just to hang out, not even to drink or sometimes we do, but it's very safe there. We feel really good. we won't go anywhere else because we don't feel safe in other places. We just don't. And um Sam is a great owner. I mean, he's really pays attention to detail and the bartenders are great

there and so is the security. The security is really on their stuff. They're always walking around. They don't just sit in one area. They're really invested in making it a safe area inside and in the back area for us to be safe. And I feel really safe there and so do my daughters and my husband. We all go there. I have about six family members that we're there every weekend. And when I say every weekend, every weekend. So that's about it. All right. Thank you for your comments. You're welcome. Christina followed by Danielle Santilano. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. My name is Christina Hayden. I'm here to support Sam in the club. Um I come all the way from Mojave. I have a son that's disabled. And um it gets overwhelming sometimes, you know, having a son that's disabled, but having the King Bar to come to and, you know, enjoy myself that it's good for me and it's good for the community, too, because K um Sam, he comes, he makes sure everyone is safe. I feel safe with him. The security when I'm leaving the club, I go by myself. I don't go with anyone else because they're like family to me. I love them all there. And um when I leave, they make sure I'm safe. When I leave, go to my car and everything. And you know, I just feel like you guys should really rethink closing down this establishment. It's a good place to go and have fun. You know, you can go play pool, dance, drink. The DJ is great. and I just wanted to say, you know, I'm here for their support and you guys have a

good day. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Danielle Santelano is next, followed by Christa Nero. Afternoon. Welcome. Good afternoon. Okay, so I don't have my glasses, so you have to excuse me. Okay, I forgot them. So, um I'm writing to address uh the CU. I do uh actually I'm here I work uh for the Lancaster School District. I'm a par educator here and um I've uh worked with Sam. We do plenty of events there. I work with him basically. Um so I want to take this time to take this matter very seriously. Um we have significant upgrades enhance the safety and security of this establishment. To address these concern, we have engaged a professional security company to provide security guards during the peak hours and closing time alongside coast patrol vehicle for added visibility and safety. Additionally, I currently um make sure myself that if there's any type of gatherings or anything, I'm making sure I'm walking also and making sure everything is okay. Um he does employ five house security consisting of four males and one female to maintain the uh premises. Um trying to get that uh to basically further ensure the safety of our patrons. He's also installed additional lighting surveillance cameras outside the bar as well as the safety. We've also um imposed to have safety rails for a single file line uh to for the entrance to the bar uh to

accommodate individuals with disabilities as well. Um and we also have um talked about a early closing time uh for any potential disturbances. Uh the King Bar serves as a vital source of livelihood for many in our community and I am committed you know myself is to try to restore the reputation and venue for the safe and and enjoyable entertainment and I thank you for your understanding. Thank you for your comments. Last one up is Ca Nero. Good afternoon and welcome. Thank you. Um, so my name is Crest Nero. I've been here since about 1989. My father was pretty well known out in this valley. He had a TV show. Um, when we were done with production, we would go to schooners to get relief, to relax. I can guarantee you that if he was still alive today, he would be going to the King Bar with me because it is a safe place. I feel safe. They make sure I get home. They make sure there's no trouble for me outside of the bar. And truthfully, I don't think you should shut it down. That's all I have to say. Thank you for your comments. That concludes all eight speaker cards. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Um, if can I speak for Excuse me, sir. If you'd like to um you can address us, tell us who you are, but you need to fill out a speaker card so we know who you are. Come right on up. Take your time. No hurry.

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Ed Ma. I'm the partner with the King Bar with Sam and I'm the owner of Twopack Sticker and Gas which I've been at the next door. It's Twopack Licker and Gas next door to the King Bar and I've been there 35 years. I we bought it like April of 1990 and it's a safe area and I have no problems. I got held up like once like 21 years ago and so please have mercy on us. I think we shouldn't like do do something about this bar and then let us do because we our compliance with taxes for the for the city the state the the federal everything you know. So it's your decision and thank you very much. Thank you sir for your comments. So that concludes the speakers. Um, Chief Alman, would you care to chat with us a bit tonight? Thank you. Yes, sir. Um, I know you were involved with preparing uh some of the information for staff to evaluate and make a recommendation to us after what you've heard tonight um or this afternoon. Are you swayed to change your recommendations at all? I'd have to say uh no sir, not my original uh recommendation. Um I'll just add a little bit uh about the event. Uh this was a it was a serious event. Uh you're correct in stating that uh according to the uh sheriff's deputies report, there was actually three shooters that night. Three people who fired guns and um two

people who were injured due to that shooting. So u that is that's it's a concerning event. It is. All right, sir. Thank you. Maybe questions. Go ahead, Chief. Do you have any summary on what the other um calls to service were for? Uh yes, sir. In fact, sorry, excuse me. And is is this is this just been since we granted the CU last June? So, I know we pulled calls, my unit did, from uh January 2024 through I believe it was uh April or May of this year. And uh what we saw was um actually it's it's actually five calls because some are related out of that eight. Um they're or they're related to each other. So, that really makes it five calls. And out of those five calls, the uh notable was there was a domestic violence incident. Um and then there was um it's called an assault with a deadly weapon, but that's because somebody got hit with a chair. Uh and then anytime you you hit somebody with an object, usually it's going to develop into that. Um, and then the call that we're talking about today, uh, the other calls were not related to the establishment. Uh, there was a stolen vehicle that was nearby. I think it got stopped in front on the street. Had nothing to do with the location. Uh, and then the other one was a false false alarm call. So, those are those are the incidents that occurred since January of 2024. Sir, anyone else have any questions or comments?

No. Thank you very much, Chief. Yes, sir. Appreciate your comments. All right, then. Um, public hearing is still open and the applicant would has an opportunity to address us after what we've heard. Uh, if you care to add anything, you're certainly welcome to. So, can I add one thing? I'm sorry. What's that? Can I add one thing? I forgot to ask. Go ahead. Yeah, I think it's I think I should mention that um the person who was there that night and the deputies identified them as the owner, but they use the name Hassam, uh, that person was extremely cooperative with the law enforcement. Uh, uh definitely gave them a statement and um provided surveillance footage uh right away. Uh and then also it should be noted that the deputies spoke with four uh witnesses or informants who said there was an argument inside between these two gentlemen initially and then they moved outside and that's when uh it really turned into an altercation and a shooting. All right. Very good. Thank you, sir. So u Mr. Mira is it close enough you're welcome to come back and address us. Thank you. My name you call me. Okay. Anyway you call me Ham but you call me Sam. Uh just to let you know when this the accident happened at the parking lot I I increase the the lighting at the parking lot. Now all my parking lot is more

lighting more than what the city ask. I because I want like to be sure I can see everything around all my because I have that big parking lot. Um, I try to to make it like safety as I can. That's why I I increase the lighting, I increase the the security, everything. And if you you hear about everything happen uh never ever happen anything inside the bar, never, you know. And I appreciate you. I try my best and also I'm under the law. Anything I can do it because I like what we say together we can do it. Okay. Anything we I can do it I'm ready for it. I do my best of course anything from the head the planning department or from the city anything they want me to do I'm ready for it. uh last three last years that again like you remember you tell me oh no noise like almost one years now with zero call about the noise I'm sure no noise and also now I promise you guys do whatever they want you want I'm ready for it any question any comments questions members I have a question for staff but not for Mr. Ma. All right. Thank you very much, sir. I appreciate it. Thank you. So, um, go ahead if you have questions. Yeah. So, from what I'm hearing is there's disturbance around the bar, but it's not directly towards the bar except for that one incident of uh the shooting. Um, is this something that's that that

we've um reviewed as far as the neighborhood or I mean because I can see people arguing and then stopping in front of the bar and that that's what that's what I'm hearing. It's like he can't he can't control the community doing their mischief stuff. And I was just trying to I'm trying to decipher if it's coming from the bar or is it just around the bar and you know to hear the community or the what was it the mobile is it a mobile home that Yeah. that to have no one here, you know, you know, trying to uh say shut it down is is is a little uh amazing because I remember when they first were were saying the issues when we first were about to open the bar and we haven't heard any of those comments since. So I'm a little you know concerned about I think the reality is you have under the there's two issues the conditional use permit and the bar operation which is now an existing nonconform or not it's an existing nonconformance but it falls under the opaces of the conditional use permit. So if you look at the history of the condition use permit and the steps the applicant has taken which are minimal. There was, if I correct me if I'm wrong, there was an application file for tenant improvement and those tenant improvement plans were marked up by building and safety, I believe, and returned what? November. This is now

May. Nothing further. So, as far as we know, there's been no improvements made. All right. Chair Vos, um, just to kind of lay out the what what's going on with the building permit. So, as part of the conditional use permit, um, the project is conditioned that they have to bring certain structures and uh, things like that into compliance and that is to apply for a building permit. Um that's one of the things that staff is assessing its progress as part of this uh compliance review and as you mentioned uh building permit application was submitted uh staff building safety staff provided comments on those and are awaiting a response uh for a resubmitt for those plans. But that's in regards to the building permit aspect. Mr. I think I I know the answer to this question, but I want to make sure I I have it clearly. So, in the staff's recommendation, it's an A and B recommendation. Is it possible for us to make an A to essentially to adopt to have the conditional use permit revoked, but keep B with respect to allowing the establishment to remain as it was. I hope this is what you were thinking, but uh Commissioner Dairberry, the answer is yes. Um it's within your uh decision-making body's um purview to do one or the other or a combination or neither um as to the uh the wishes of the commission. And is it also true that to to essentially revoke their deem status? Is this specifically tied to the approval of the cup from last June?

Commissioner Derry Berry, those are two separate actions. Um the cup is primarily for the allowance of live indoor and outdoor entertainment. And the second part B is the deemed approved status which is essentially like their grandfathered status uh to serve alcohol at this establishment. So reality, we have a number of options. We could do nothing. We could continue the matter for a date certain. Uh we could approve the staff report and the applicant would have an opportunity to appeal our decision, whatever it may be. or we can break the two items apart and make decisions on either one or both. Is that a fair summary? That's correct. Commissioner Burton, go ahead. It would seem, if I'm understanding correctly, that the incident that took place, while very serious, didn't necessarily have anything to do with the indoor outdoor entertainment aspect. They were inside the establishment. Apparently, there was an argument or altercation that took place that spilled out into the parking lot. But in terms of the conditional use permit and this incident, the two are not related. That's what I'm understanding. So I I I guess the the thing that we are most considering pursuing this really doesn't have anything to do with the cup itself. The incident that took place that we're discussing most in regards to this situation is kind of independent of what we're the condition use permit however

has certain conditions that um staff hasn't mentioned that have not that are not in compliance and haven't at least pursued in a very active way as we might uh expect. Right. Um, so you file you you file an application and and submit plans and then do nothing. Uh, that's what I see at this point. Right. Sir, may I speak? Excuse me. Excuse me. I mean, that's where we stand, isn't it? How long's it how long is a building permit uh alive active? Once you file it, it never goes away even though you do nothing. How's that work? Or does our city engineer want to tell us? Or maybe there's no answer. I don't know. Um I could comment on engineering plans but not on the planning plans. So for engineering it's uh one year that they have. How long? One year. One year typically that's what I thought too. Um and just to clarify, Chervos, um the building permit is not a granted permit. It's just an application that they've submitted. So um it's not whether or how long the permit is good for. There is no permit for um for all the improvements that they are conditioned to make. Um in the conditions of approval uh as I mentioned earlier the conditions are

written in such a way where um staff can make uh a compliance review every six months for the first two years to just check in on it. Um this time it's been just over six six months but um um and we are here to report to the commission as required by the conditions of approval that in in regards to the building permit submittal um there is a pending application but just awaiting a resubmitt. So, do we know if there's u activity that was approved pursuant to the applicant's conditional use permit approval that are currently taking place um in a facility that is non-conforming? Chervos, the conditions are written in a way where currently the bar operation is allowed to have indoor entertainment events because the cup is about the events. um in order to have outdoor events which is kind of the same but slightly different right more impactful they are to bring their entire operation into compliance hence their application for the building permit so currently they can host live events um small concerts comedy shows karaoke night what have you know exactly what types of events are held there but those are the types of events that are currently allowed if they wanted to move those events outside like in the parking lot or other areas outside um they would need to have that building permit as required um by their conditions of approval. So yes, they can have indoor events today. Uh no, they cannot have outdoor events today. And if we revoke the CP granted last June, they could still continue to conduct, assuming we don't don't deem their approved status um revoke their deemed approved status, they could still

conduct the bar the exact same way that they're doing today, more or less. That's correct. Since the CU is just for the live events, if you revoke that, um they could uh potentially appeal that decision or some form of that decision, whatever the commission decides. Um but they are still um able to operate as an alcoholic uh beverage establishment um and whatever else is allowed by right in the commercial zone. See a little bit to Commissioner Burden's point I recall the conversation with the community last June the people from the mobile home parks were adamantly against the outdoor entertainment. They weren't necessarily against the functions of the bar itself night to night. That's what I recall. I recall the C uh the conditions of approval to be incredibly ownorous. I remember asking Mr. Ma if he thought that he can meet those. Uh he looked me in the eye and said he thought he could. Um I hate to say I feel like with what we've seen, it's probably possible that he can't. So serious matter and then predicting the future based on what the commission may or may not do and an appeal is filed. Let's just say for instance um whatever our action is is appealed by anyone. And the city council says we're going we're going to approve what the staff's recommendation was to the commission. They could do that, couldn't they? That's correct.

So, just so everybody's clear what what this train is doing. Okay. Going down the track. I do have two questions. Uh I guess the first question would be to chief. Um, so one thing that I heard repeated many times was the amount of security effort that has been placed into this establishment. Um, and to me it sounds like it's it would seem reasonable. I'm obviously not and there aren't a lot of bars enforcing. Is that does that seven security officers is that reasonable? Is that beyond um what would you know standard of care would dictate for a bar of this type? So sir to answer that I guess I'd have to have an idea what type of um customer population not what type but how many customers uh they're having that definitely weighs in it right um five for the the size of the location I think is a that is a good number because it's not a really huge location uh considering that they're not doing events outside uh the actual main structure is pretty small and I think I think they have a pool hall or something in the back. So, five would would work for that. And then it's my understanding that they pay for a uh a patrol car security company that goes through the parking lot. I'm not sure if that's one or two individuals in that car. Uh but definitely uh they've told me that they have five working inside and the I'm not sure what their capacity is. Hi. Do you know what their their capacity is for the uh how you know what the capacity is for the location? I apologize. I do not. I'm sorry. Okay. So, uh we we'd have to look we definitely would have to look at that. How many how many customers you're going to have and are you going to you're if

you're going to have a couple hundred or more, you may want a few more security guards. Absolutely. Okay. So, so it seems like from that perspective, um you know, ownership can only go to a certain point and then beyond that it's It's people, you know. Yeah. Yeah. And then I I think owners uh have a responsibility to pay attention to uh what's going on in the establishment, including the number of of people that are coming in and control that too. Obviously considering our fire regulations, uh but safety of your of your clientele as well and understanding and knowing how many people you have there to deal with an issue and not let it get so big that you don't have enough there. Okay. Yes sir. Thank you. Okay. And then the second question was for Mr. Ma. Um so hi. So one of the items we heard was that uh there was building applications submitted uh and my understanding is that comments were issued but there was no action taken as far as resubmitts. Um that's was that was one of the items listed on the grounds for relication. Is there a reason why plans were not resubmitted? I'm sorry. I'm sorry again. Can I hear you? Uh, so a building application was submitted. Uh, one of the items on the slideshow was grounds of irriation was that uh there was no resubmitt of those plans. Is there a reason why there was no resubmitt? we all the all the the the paper already we submitted with the the city till now we not got like almost I got email today from uh do company engineer they say like almost 50% is under procedure it's only like more than two years ago like we submitted from I think 21 November 21 November 22 you know till now like procedure they

asking something we do it as city want or the planning department and all this but till now I don't got any approval yet so I guess just to understand completely on my end um has there been resubmitts of the plants the original application was submitted in September of last year um I don't believe there has been any resubmitts just yet to address those comments and the city issued comments that's correct Okay. So, so why why has there not been a resubmitt? Why? What? Why? Sorry, what? Why has there not been a resubmitt of those plans? No, already we submitted. We not got like uh answer from the city yet, you know, like we all that if you if I know about that, I bring for you the the email. I have all the emails from the the engineer company and we submitted the date exactly when we submitted to the city and till now we don't count any answer. Okay. I'm I'm I'm still not sure that I'm clear on what the right answer is. Yeah, you're not getting the answer. The the answer would be have you resubmitted the markup on those plans for a second plan check for the second plan? Sorry. Okay. So, so let me try to take this two steps backwards. So, we submit explain to a civilian, right? Right. So, we submit application, right? Um, the city reviews it, they issue their comments, then your design engineer professional Yes. would address those comments. Yes. And then resubmit it into the city. Yes. Has that taken place? Yes. And we do that the last um three four months ago. They asking about the electric plan and already we submitted and till now we don't have any answer from the city more than more than three four months and if you want guy I can bring you all that document exactly what exactly what date

we submitted with the city we can check we can check right now with the with the uh building official ourselves and we may just do that to clarify I think that would be helpful okay sorry but I can add uh something I can add something. Go ahead. Okay. We say about the capacity of this the the bark capacity inside is 157 inside and outside almost 650 but till now we don't use nothing outside because till now I don't have a proof for uh outside event right and why we need this is uh the event when we got this business guys I was looking for why everybody we have every I make my research every week we have between 900 to 1,200 people go to to the downtown to see watch some big event watch artists what's what okay why we cannot do it over here um and I ask about the because if we have problem about the noise that's why I asking we have to close the music outside at 11:00 or 10:00 as the low 10:00 or 11 I don't sure but if 10:00 we can close the music 10:00 or 11 I can close the music 11:00 outdoor as as the law I not I'm not sure um what time the they're supposed to not make a music outside uh we have a five guard Mr. Sheriff say every 50 customer you need one security as a bar policy every 50 customer you need one me for 157 if I my bar full like you're talking if my bar full that's mean I needed three I have five I have more than what the bar needed you know like that's

all right thank you thank you Mr. Bennett. Hold on a second. I'm sorry. Wait one. Would you please, sir? Wait one. 157. And then if they have people outside, how many of those? I don't recall the number. What's the current capacity on the exterior? Do you have Are you almost 650? Almost 650. Between sorry, between 600 to 650. But you currently do not have any events on the outside. No, no, no, not yet. But just let you know guys before the city stopped me about event I make two event at the bar outside because I don't know we need a license I got good artist I was have like almost 600 people with 600 people I don't have one issue zero zero problem zero drama why because as a bar when you have like big spot no no touch less problem and when you got like event like that of course you got I'm sorry to say that but you got like different quality of people

like because everybody they come to they want to see the artist they want to enjoy the time it's not that's why we apply for the event outside I make two of them and one of them like almost like 600 6 700 people with big artists zero smooth everybody have good time everybody happy we don't have any issue and now like sometime I have 20 people 20 people inside sometime we have some issue of course because like more touch like the space more touch it's more problem but when it's open it's less problem thank you thank you thank you so Mr. Venet, thank you for um coming and joining us this afternoon. Can you tell us the status of the application for the building permit intended improvements? What tell us the story, please? Good afternoon, by the way. So, they submitted plans. The application was in September 26 or September 16, 2024. uh first plan check comments went out 10:21 uh 2024. Uh those uh comments were addressed um I'm sorry they submitted 10:21 and then the comments were addressed on 11:204 and then we didn't get comments back from them for corrections until 4:14 2025. So about six months and we turned our comments around on 423. So we got them on 4:15, turned them around on 423 and we haven't gotten any responses back from our comments.

So once the posting for the conditional use permit hearing or the the action that the commission took in March, I'm just reading the tea leaves here. All of a sudden from November to April, something happened. Activity took place. Up until that point, it just set. Correct. from November to March. All right. Thank you very much. Appreciate you being here. Um, so anything further from staff? No. Nope. All right. Members, anything further? Get one more shot at it if you want. All right. So, without objection, we'll close the public hearing and consider a motion. And before we take or we consider a motion, if there is one, try to remember what I said previously. No action, so there wouldn't be a motion. Continue the hearing for a specific purpose. If you folks want further answers, approve the staff report as it's written or approve a portion of the revocation being the conditional use permit and allow [Music] the applicant to either appeal that, but that would keep the uh bar

operation in open. So, we got four if I've got it counted right. So, what's your pleasure, folks? I guess I just want to say that, you know, as a business owner, he seems to have responded to the incidents. I mean, he hired additional security, got a patrol car, has a security guard in the parking lot. I mean people are going to people. There's really nothing that we can do about that. And unfortunately, we cannot predict the future. Only God can do that. So I just as somebody that runs a business and he's trying to make arrangements and to, you know, to combat these incidents. And to his point earlier, I mean, yeah, you had an outside event and there was an artist there and you had 600 people, no problem. and then you have 20 people one night and there could be a problem that that could happen anywhere. I mean, that's just the bottom line. Um, and that's not to say that he won't have another event with 600 people and something might happen. The nature of a bar and people being outside of their right mind, it just it's a tossup. It's a coin flip every night. That's just the fact of the matter. Um, I know that's Palmdale, but I mean, we saw what happened about a year ago at the happy hours in Palmdale. I mean, that's not Lancaster. I'm not bringing that up for anybody to say anything, but I'm just saying um these things can happen at any point in time. So, I just wanted to make that comment. Thank you for your comments. I the definition of a public nuisance as defined by staff and written in the city ordinance pretty clear.

The city has limited power of terminating an operation unless they've had some form of an approval by the planning commission city council for their operation. So the most all if not all bars in this town which there's not many but there are some have issues. The only ones that we'll ever look at if in fact they come before us are the ones with conditional use permits if you will. The rest of them, the rest of it is relegated to the city manager's office based on the business license if I understand it correctly. So that's the fifth option I guess. So does anyone care to make a motion? No. Well, I will make a motion to continue this hearing for 90 days. give the applicant adequate opportunity to prove to this commission what he said he's going to do and is doing and we'll re-review it in 90 days. Can we do that council chair and commissioners? You may do that if you can if you continue it to

a specific time, date, and place, which I think would be August 18 of this year in this chambers, then we could avoid republication, although that's always optional to do anyway, but you may do that if you wish. Yeah, you probably ought to publish it anyway if assuming the motion passes. And that's an allowable motion. Thank you. So is your motion then to continue to August 18th? Then I'll second that motion. Members, any other comments? Prepared to vote. Let's vote. Motion passes 6 Z with one commissioner absent, Miss Loa. So, are you clear on what we're doing? Are you clear on what your responsibility is? Thank you. I wish you well. my best. The last thing I think any of us who are in business and have been in business or work in business is to shut somebody down. However, there's a big hammer. So, I'll I'll quit there. All right, then. Good luck. All right. Then the next item is a new public hearing on conditional use permit [Music]

25-003. Public hearing is open on this matter. Miss Brekie, are you presenting on this one? I am chair. All right. Give us a minute. Make head out. All right, then. Go ahead, Miss B. Thank you, members of the planning commission. The item before you is conditional use permit number 250003, an application for the operation of a recuperative care facility. The facility would be located within existing buildings at 44748 and 44758 Elm Avenue. The subject site is in the neighborhood medium zone of the transit oriented development zones. In 2018, a cup application was made by the same applicant for recuperative care at this site. It was approved in 2019 and three one-year time extensions were granted in 2021. The project ultimately expired in 2024 leading to the current new submittal. This slide shows the site plan for the project. It is substantially similar to what was submitted in the original 2018 application. Each of the two buildings on site are outlined in red for clarity. The facility would be comprised of up to 30 beds providing a variety of recovery services to homeless patients who have been discharged from hospitals or from

clinics but have not fully recovered from their illness or injury. Parking is provided at both an interior courtyard accessed from Elm and behind the building with alley access. In conclusion, staff recommend that the planning commission adopt resolution number 257 approving conditional use permit number 250003 and finding the project categorically exempt under SQA. Staff is available if you have any questions and the applicant is here as well. Very good. Thank you. Yeah, the applicant did send us a letter indicating they uh approve and concur with the recommendations of staff and all the conditions. Right. That's correct. Good. All right. Then um if the applicant's here, you're welcome to speak to us. Uh you're not obliged to by any means, but if you got something to tell us, we'll be happy to listen to you here. I don't really have I'm sure you said something. I didn't hear a word you said. Hi, I'm David Deloplane. Yes, sir. And we've seen we've seen you before. Yes, you have. It's been a while. It's been a while. We got hung up with COVID and then uh we had some staff issues and staff changes and they didn't refile our our C. So So the opportunity for success is still out there, huh? We are we think weeks away. Correct. Well, good. All right. Thank you. All right then. Um do we have any other speakers on this matter? No speakers, chair. No speakers. All right, then. So, without objection, we'll close the public hearing condition

on this matter and consider a motion. I move to adopt number 20 resolution uh number 25-07 approving conditional use permit number 25-003 to allow for the operations other re reoperative sorry I don't have my glasses on care facility within uh the existing building at 44748 and 44758 Elms Avenue um APN 3134-07-011 in the transit orient development neighborhood medium TOD- NM zone and finding the project category ally exempt under the California Environmental Quality Act. Uh authorization staff authorizing Man, I'm sorry, staff to execute and file a notice of exemption. Very good. And that's Cup number 25-003, just to be clear. All right. Thank you. And I'll second. Thank you. Anything further from anyone? All right, then please vote. Motion passes 60 with one absent. Miss Loa, congratulations on in effect a renewal of your CUP with modifications. Good luck. get it

done. All right, then the next item is a new public hearing on conditional use permit 24-0. Um, so the public hiring is open. Miss Alvarado, are you presenting on this one? I am. All right. Good evening. Good evening, Chairman Bose and members of the planning commission. My name is Mity Alvarado. I'm the project planner on this item. So, this item we have before you is conditional use permit 2410. Um, it is a site redesign amending the previously approved CUP 227. So, just as a refresher, the project is located near the southwest corner of Avenue J and 20th Street West zoned commercial plan development for CPD. The site is an approximately 2acre vacant lot. Um, it is surrounded by existing commercial uses. The applicant had previously come before the October 2023 planning commission meeting with a similar project proposal. It was for the construction and operation of a new car wash facility with uh a retail building and site improvements. Back in October of 2023, the commission approved the car wash as seen on the slide there. And today they are amending it to approve the overall site design. The new scope of work includes the car wash building highlighted in orange that you see up there on the slide that has now moved from the north side to the south side of the site to allow for the expanded vehicle queuing. The building square footage of the car wash has also been reduced by almost 4,000 square ft and would now include 30 dry stations and 16 parking spaces. The commercial building and trash enclosure along with site

improvements would remain the same in location and size as originally um approved. Here are renderings of the proposed elevations and look of the commercial site. The car wash facility is on the left up there and the retail building is on the right. The new building designs mainly incorporate a smooth stucco finish um with concrete masonry walls and borders. The roof lines of the buildings are both mono pitch and asymmetrical in design and the overall um a new uh lighter neutral color is proposed along with its material and color scheme um which has been updated making the architectural style more consistent with the newer surrounding buildings. In conclusion, staff recommends we adopt resolution 258 approving conditional use permit 2410 and finding the project categorically exempt. I'm available as long as as well as the applicant for any questions. You're good. Thank you. Is this an automated operation? Fully automated or Yeah, I believe it's fully automated self-s serve. Fully automated, self-s served. All right. Thank you. And the retail site, just general convenience store stuff. Is that what it is? It is a building shelf for Yeah. retail. Retail. Um, and I believe they don't have a vendor yet. Very good. Thank you. Anything further from anyone? All right. Then the applicant's here. He can address us if he wishes. You don't have to talk to us if you don't want to. We like to we like to see the applicants and uh their smiles when and when when and if we approve these

projects. So, good evening. This one's already been approved. It's just a modification. Correct. Right. Good evening, Mr. Chairman. Uh yes, that's correct. I'm only here to help answer any questions you may have. Very good. With all the competition in the community, um are you concerned about that? Uh there are car washes nearby. Um we've done our research. It's showing a profitable business and uh owners ready to proceed with it. So we're hoping for the best. All right. Well, very good. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. So without objection, we'll close the public hearing. Consider a motion. I'll move that we adopt resolution number 258 approving conditional use permit number 24010 amending conditional use permit number 2207 revising the design of a new car wash facility retail tenant building and associated improvements located near the southwest corner of 20th Street West and Avenue J. APN number 2123 005042 in the commercial plan development zone and finding that the project is categorically exempt under SQUA and authorizing staff to execute and file a notice of exemption. A second. Thank you. All right then. Nothing further. Please vote. Motion passes 6 with one absent. Miss Low, congratulations. You're on your way. Make it happen and good luck.

Next item is um a new public hearing on general plan amendment 24-001 and a zone change 24-001. And Miss Brady is back in the spotlight. Thank you, chair. There is a memo included in the agenda for tonight on this item as um staff received a request to extend the public comment period for the environmental documents. So the recommendation at this time is to continue the item um to the next planning commission meeting. So which law firm asks for the extension and how much um do they expect to extract from the developer to get this project approved? Oh, you don't know? Really it's it just really it aggravating that these developers end up having to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to get the projects approved in the form of ransom. Really, that's just my opinion, which I think is reality. All right. So, continue the matter for one month. Alrighty. Thank you. No speakers. Go ahead. I do recommend a motion to do that if that's your pleasure. All right. So moved. Very good. So moved. All right. You got a a second, please. A second. Mr. Burton. Yeah. Thank you. All right. Moved and seconded. Please vote.

motion passes 6 with one absent, Miss Loa. So June 16, 2025 is the next time we'll hear this. Uh, Mr. Nuin, you have anything to share with us or are you talked out by now? Oh, I can keep going, do this all day. Uh, hello again, Chair Vos, members of the planning commission. Hi, new planning manager. Um, yes, June 16th is the next one. We'll have the affformentioned industrial project. We'll likely have the westside annexation public comment as well and a couple other subdivisions. And I have two more kind of fun things I wanted to share. Um so recently staff kicked off a major project which is a comprehensive update to the transitoriented development or TOD zones area for the city and the first objective is to receive input from the community. The first public outreach event for the to update is uh on a Saturday morning on June 14th at the Lancaster Community Center. So uh you'll be hearing more about that u through social media and our websites uh once we get closer to that. And the last thing I want to bring up, um this was already brought up uh at the uh last week's city council meeting, but I'd like to read it into our record, but um uh so last month the city was awarded the 2025 sustainability award by the um uh Southern California Association of Governments or SCAG. Um and this is for our vehicle miles traveled impact fee mitigation program, VMT mitigation program. So, this is where the developers pay their fair share and the money goes into funding cool citywide sustainability projects like bike lanes and uh making safer sidewalks, things like that. So, uh this project uh was made possible by the leadership and vision of the city council and your planning commission and

city staff, specifically Jocelyn Swain, senior planner. So, wanted to just read that into our record as we're very proud of that. Thank you very much. should be proud of it. I don't know how many times I've said it, but I mean it every time I do say it. What a wonderful staff we have and a wonderful city to be associated with. You folks do a tremendous job. Uh it's just outstanding. Very very much appreciated. So commission agenda. Anybody have anything they'd like to chitchat about or you all done? I'm going to selfishly invite everyone here to the Lancaster Performing Arts Centers Foundation's Gayla coming up on June 7th. Some of you know I'm the president of the Elpac Foundation and have been for close to 10 years now. We have our annual event to raise money mostly for our Arts for Youth program. We put a bunch of money back into the theater every year. We have a good time. It's going to be the the Gold Nugget Gayla and grand auction. So, put on your cowboy boots. We've got cowboy hats that'll be branded with the Elpac Foundation's logo on it. We got a live music, lots of food, beverages, so if you guys can come, let me know. Tickets are available at the box office. It's going to be a great night. Um, you know, one of those kind of one of a one of a kind events here in our valley. So, June 7th starts at six o'clock. So, we hope hope to see you guys there. Thank you for that. Thank you. All right, time for public business from the floor. And I don't see any public that wants to chat with us. So no public business from the floor. All right then. So we stand adjourned to our regular meeting of June 16, 2025 at 3:30 p.m. here in these chambers at the Lancaster City Hall

Council Chambers. Thank you again for all your hard work. Uh difficult issues, that's for