Town Council - Regular Meeting

We're going to open by the adoption of ordinance 202601. [clears throat] Where are we going there again? Yeah. Okay. Ordinance number 202601 and ordinance of the town of Lakeville, St. Joe County, Indiana, reestablishing the fire protection territory equipment replacement fund under Indiana code 36-8-9-8.5. Be it ordained by the town of Lakeville Town Council of St. Joe County, Indiana, that a need now exists for the reestablishment of a fire protection territory equipment replacement fund for all [clears throat] the following purposes. for all uses as set out in Indiana code 36-8-19-8.5. Be it further ordained that this council will adhere to the provisions of the Indiana code. The proposed fund will not exceed 0333 on each 100 of assessed value. Said tax rate will be levi levied beginning with taxes for 2026 payable 2027 and will be uniform tax rate. it further ordained that a certified copy of this organ shall be submitted to the department of local government finance of the state of Indiana as provided by law. The tax rate for this fund is subject to certification by the department of local government finance. Be it further ordained that the Union Township of the provider unit of Union Lakeville Fire Protection Territory [laughter] and the town of Lakeville is the participating unit and said protection fire protection territory. Union Township as provider unit is authorized to establish this fund. This ordinance contains or incorporates by references the content of the agreement to establish the funds. Duly adopted by

the following vote of the members of said town council the second day of March 2026. I'm going to ask for a motion to go ahead and approve the ordinance 20261. I'll make that motion. Uh Lori, I don't think you can vote on this one. Why? Uh give me a second. It's about it's establishing a tax rate. So you can't vote on that because she likes to be here because it has to do with the budget. That's the only one thing I cannot do. Oh, got it. Through video. Got it. Okay. So, I'm going to ask for a motion to go ahead and the ordinance.

I I'm not going to I don't want to do that. So, okay. We can we can vote on it. I I take that motion. Okay. So, what is your official vote? No. [clears throat] Okay. So, is that able to be tabled and come up in our next meeting? Wait. Jacquine be the type. Isn't Jacqueline the typewriter?

Oh, Jacqueline would be the type. She's looking up stuff.

[clears throat] [clears throat] So you can't participate. So if there is a tie vote then the clerk treasurer would be the person to cast. [clears throat] I am voting I. So there's a tie. So if the clerk treasurer cast the vote now. [clears throat] That's raising the taxes 0 Z333 on each $100.

According to the minutes from the last meeting, it looks like it's a change from 0331 to 0333. Right. So, we're going up three cents per $100. Three cents. I don't think it's even that much. Not even. Okay. And you

It's not It's not a lot. No. But how do you do the Okay. So, I'm gonna sign ordinance has passed. Sign right here. You're the first one. So, right here and you'll want to make that extremely clearance what happened there that Lori was prohibited from participating

because she's electronically attending. So that sign right here. So I did that, but how do I do this? You just put your name on there somewhere. [clears throat] Do I make the motion or He made the motion. Okay. I just want to make sure. This is actually the first time that's ever happened. I think it's one time back when Shirley was the quick treasure. Laura, I can't wait till you're back. [laughter] I will be there in the next meeting. I'm just here today. Yeah, but you're not here. [laughter]

So, do I still put Dean then for this for? He made a motion. Okay. And did you second it? Second the motion and then prohibited from participating.

Yes. Dean voted no. April voted yes. And under your capacity is the clerk treasurer who has to do tiebreaking votes. Then you vote electronic first. Candy here. No, he's not. Okay. Uh the minutes. Do we want to go to the minutes? Going to ask for a motion to approve the minutes of February 2nd.

Um I'll make the motion. Oh, I forgot. Do you want to second the motion? [clears throat] Let's approve the minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Dean Dean second motion. All those that approve or I Lorie, you got to vote.

I [laughter] So, will she be able to sign my minutes then? So, she was able to vote. Uh, she should be able to Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, now we are on APVs. I did send those. Oh, I forgot to kind of large because we have We had some sewer bar stuff come out. Okay. So, I'm going to ask to approve uh the accounts payable vouchers by 410,82117. [laughter]

I'll make that motion. One second. Lori, um I haven't had a real good chance to look over them. So, if I have any questions, I will ask them at a later time, but I will second the motion at the moment. So those eight all those in favor I

I have a few things from DLC. This is the progress report which is DLZ's invoice. Correct. So you're going to have to Okay. An invoice. Yes.

Okay. This is [clears throat] So this is prepper. Oh, this is Hold on a second. Does that have a number on it? Um, it did 20. This isn't 21 though, is it? No, no, no. He told me not to bring that. Okay. That's not in here today. Good. Yeah, cuz I think Annie needs that needs to be stated on Yeah, there's a correction that needs to be done. So, okay. 20 is not here tonight or 21's not here. This is progress report 20, but there's no amount on your right there. And then that matches

I thought he sent a second email saying it was not correct and to hold off on 21 payment number 21. Yeah, but this is this is a different one. Okay. I guess I can't hear what you're saying very [clears throat] well. This is a different one. This is the other one, right? This is the other one. This is payment number 20. 20. Okay. Okay. Payment number 21. I did not bring this is progress report 21. That's Yes, that's different. That's DLZ's invoice.

There was one that he sent two emails. One of the emails said, "Please disregard payment. There's a problem. It does not. Let me see. What does it say exactly? Yeah, he said not to bring payment number 21 because they have to correct. Is there anybody there from DLC? No. Um, going back to the APBs really quick, the one question I did have, and I know they just got passed, but it was on the clerk receiving $13,000.

That is just the payroll, which I was going to show I'll show u April after which does each individual person's payroll and then clerk 13,000. something you're not. Yeah, I know. I went and looked at it because I went and looked at it on the APBs in my accounting stuff and when you click on it, it shows every single thing of payroll.

So, that number 410,821 17 cents is another correct true number. Yes, because the 13,000 for a payroll is for everybody for county town. So, it's a double listing then. Well, one I would like to go back to that one was for I'm going to retract and I don't know how February 13th and February 27th looking over it. It shows Patrick's pay. It shows Joe's pay. It shows everybody's pay individually. It shows all the fund statements for everybody individually and it gets to clerk and it shows 13,731 or whatever.

Yeah, I had a question about that. That's for everybody in town. This is for payroll for the 27th and then the 13th, but this one is the one that's labeled. I know, but you click on it and on the AP it shows a list which I can show you afterwards. That's what I was I went back and looked. Okay. Cuz I was questioning. Okay. [clears throat] Okay. So, I'm going to So, Lori, the procedural be a motion to reconsider, and you were on the winning side, so you're allowed to do that [clears throat] if that's something that you wanted to do.

Oh, give me one second. I'm looking. Okay. So, under Brandon, it shows bone stipen general hall. That's bright speed. Um I I don't have a print out in front of me. So, I'm reading this off of an iPhone. So, that's my issue here. Sorry. [clears throat] This is cuz I had to go back in the months and add them in. That was why. So everybody's like everybody's federal withholding is in one voucher instead of individually.

Is that correct? Yes. Everything everything for one big payroll is in one thing but it just shows the general on here but when you click on it on the computer it shows everywhere it goes and dispersed. Okay. I see what it's doing. It's listing everybody's phone statements but not their extra payroll. Pay out under general and it just looks weird as a line item on there how it is. It does. Yes. We're okay. I'm not going to return. I will I will show you after. I mean I have it up total 13,000.

Yes. That's for everybody in town that was paid for every each two weeks. Okay. Is she ready for me to move forward? Can you ask her if she's ready for me to move forward? Just ask her if you're loud or if she can hear you. Lori, can you hear me? We're getting What? [laughter] I can't hear what's being said. Can I move her? Yeah, if you want. You can move her in the middle. Yeah. Hold on. I'm moving you. Okay. Okay. I know you can't. Can you hear me now? I don't know. from DLC was there. Oh, he's [clears throat] right there.

I'm here. I was told nobody was there from DLC. So, yeah, he's he's right there. [laughter] Standing at attention. [clears throat] He walked in while you were discussing the Yeah. So, this is progress report number 21 that I'm holding right now. Are we allowed to pay this one? because we were just told that possibly 21 is is to hold on to payment number 21, but I can't tell because it's not listed on here what payment this is on this one. That just kind of gushes invoice. I look at the other one. What's this one?

This is payment number 20. That is I think it's Is it Phoenix or is it SR? Okay. I think it's SRF and that one he didn't say to hold. He just said to hold on because there was a mistake on 21. 20 is fine. That's the payment to for Phoenix that we're recommending. I had that one and then that was I have the payment number 20 which is SRF and then I have progress report number 21 which is your guys's invoice. Yes. And that was from previous I think that was from Jan. That was from the end. It was supposed Yeah. So this one's okay to go ahead.

Yes. Talk about. Okay. So we are going to look at progress report number 21. There is a billing for $16,925 for DLZ. I need to ask for a motion to pay this bill. I'll make a motion. I'll second. All those in favor? I I

I report number 12. Sign that. We'll get that back to them. Then we have payment number 20 for SRF. the amount of $69,7625. I need to ask for a motion to pay this bill. I'll make that motion. Second. All those in favor? I I [clears throat] [laughter] Okay. [clears throat]

Do you have anything else for us which would be bank statements? So we have bank statements Lori from May through October reconciliation. We just need to sign them. You don't have to vote or anything on them. And you turned all these in like everything that needed to be scan those in. If you want to put those in a box for myself to sign at some point next week and make it in.

Okay. along with those DLC payments, the DLC and SRF. [laughter] It's really dark in here. Feels dark in here. Oh, those aren't on. I don't know why. switches over on the water. Oh, that switch. No, not yet.

Unless the other ones got on the camera. [laughter]

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her way. So we are moving the house. Um, yeah, sorry. That's okay. We're moving on to utilities, Joe. Okay, we had our bulk well PMS done, prevented maintenance done on February 12th. Everything I haven't got the report back from them yet, but everything, as far as I know, is good to go for the year. Uh, I got the our emergency contingency plan updated. Okay. And so there's a updated copy here, town hall, filter plant, and the maintenance garage.

Okay. And that's got all kind of jumped ahead because it's got the new tower and everything on it already. Okay. So I didn't have to redo it. Okay. Uh as of right now, the last meeting we had last uh Tuesday with DLZ, our progress meeting on the tower, uh tenatively we're supposed to be able to start filling the new tower March 11th. Okay. That is my birthday. I will forever remember the day that we built the tower. Well, don't hold your breath. Yeah. [laughter]

The day the tower was supposed to start. So, our kind of a an update on everything for the tower is uh uh they did come in and they got the the ceiling port today in the valve room that is done. All of the piping I think they finished hooking getting all that welded together and that is complete. Was uh a week ago this past weekend they were here. Uh there's we got some issues with the electrical conduits from the new tower to the old tower and the weather is what's going to get us [clears throat]

with all the rain and everything. They've got to do some I I we haven't heard they didn't show up today. So okay, that's the only catch right now. Any other questions? of Andy if he had anything else to add on that. It's electrician. Okay. Electrician. Yes. Okay. Uh number five we're going to skip tonight. Uh Cindy and I have to get some information to Brandy uh before we bring that up again. Got it.

Uh and then what was it? Last week one day uh a stop. Now, we still have a couple lights in the park and throughout the maintenance garage that never got updated to LEDs when they did the town. So, they are also looking at morning sign [cough] for us. [clears throat] Uh if we can get those all the morning sign lights upgraded to LED, but I have not heard anything back from him yet. Okay. So, very good. That's all we got. That's all you got? All right. Well, that is good news. [laughter] Exactly. Um Patrick [clears throat]

uh activity for February 2026 had a total of 183 calls for service. Um of that had 10 assist to St. Joseph County police had a fire assist on Madison Road alarm on Dogwood Road. Injury crash 31 and new assault in progress clear water trailer park one intoxicated person new road Kennorth Road. Uh assist motorist 931 and Riley sort of slide off in the snow. Uh medical assist on Pine Road. Uh domestic in progress Indian School Road. Uh one mental in progress Lake Trail and one alarm on Roosevelt Road. And we had one assist to North Liberty Police Department and that was a mental investigation on Meadow Drive. had a total of 17 reports for the month. Uh two crashes, two possession of marijuana, two harassment, two assisting outside agencies, one death investigation, one criminal conversion, one criminal mischief, one threats, one fraud, one noncriminal information. Had one warrant arrest, one driving while suspended, and one driving her license. Had a total of six arrests for the month. uh two possession of marijuana, one driving ever licensed, one warrant arrest, one driving loss suspended, and one criminal conversion. Uh wrote a ticket, wrote a total of 19 tickets for the month and had two local ordinance violations. Uh permanent electric has been hooked up by a last month at Colt Park. Um so now there all the several electrical outlets all throughout the park for the different events when we're having them. Uh the camper that was on Washington Street uh that was removed from porch was cleaned up. Um I had to speak with the property owner twice in regards to situation and delivered in both the zoning violation for the camper and the ordinance violation for the trash.

Anything else you do you have anything else to talk about or [laughter] I think that's about it. Okay. Patrick, once the weather breaks, you'll be out working with violations, correct? Correct. Yeah, the weather hasn't been the most coop cooperative um with the snow to be able to start getting some violations for things in the yard, brush violations. [clears throat] Okay. Yep. Yeah. As soon as the weather breaks. Okay.

Okay. RDC. Um before I I don't have much to say, but I do have an ask about can anything be done about being old building as far as like since it's blighted or it looks blinded or I mean I know you said there's not many ordinances that cover the fact that it looks like a dump. Can we start at least? We can. Yeah, that's what cuz I think you guys met with him last week, didn't Were you finally able to or he was not? No, I didn't know he was around. But I would love to have a sit down with him and see, you know, all of this. See what he's got plans. Yeah. He has been several years. I mean, that's not

Yeah. The last time I talked with him in the fall. Yeah. Cuz the last time I've talked in the fall, that's when he dropped off the block in the front cement mixer and cement to start the on the front facade for doing the uh take the glass out and do the block because I've offered to him several times to be able to sit down and meet with RDC and EDC. Um yeah, I saw you guys over there. I thought cuz his truck was out there. Yeah, I wasn't. Yeah, normally he's only there on Sundays though, but a lot of times, but yeah. Okay, good. Because I feel the incessant need is growing within me to contact him more frequently about it because it's been way long enough. He's got a lot to clean up the front of just the front of the building alone. That's a lot.

We're getting a lot of feedback from this. We're getting [clears throat] a lot back from people. I just don't want him to be singled out. And that's kind of what I know that you guys are not looking at a specific person. You're not looking at a specific correct. It's an eyesore and it's been a problem and it's been that way for a couple of years. I do agree. But I don't want I mean you can go down any street in this town. There's three houses down from me that their garage fell down five years ago and it's still in pieces in their backyard. So, if we're going to start getting online, we need to get on everybody.

Well, that's true. But we also need to get a handle on Town Center. Yeah. The big thing is downtown. When people drive through and they see our cute little town actually live here and pay taxes here are living next to a garage that fell down five years ago that's still there. I absolutely agree. I think we're all on the same page with that. I mean, I don't think that's a

I just want to be sure that we are not just simply writing a letter to this gentleman because his windows need fixed. We need to make a group effort because Patrick is only one person. And make a list of things throughout this town that we see, not just this gentleman with broken windows. There are roofs collapsing. There are tarps on top of houses. I mean, absolutely agree. I don't think anybody's So if we start by writing a letter to this gentleman and he comes in. Well, that's a place to start, Lori. He's had two years. No. I mean, it's downtown. People drive through here and they see it, Lori. I know.

And everything. He says, "When are you going to start cleaning your town up?" And that But I agree. It's time to start getting started. You have to clean up your backyard with the others. Yes. We We all have the same thoughts when we drive through everybody. But there's a backdrop that you all don't see every day. Carol does. Yes. But not every day. Anyway, RDC just the statement just [laughter]

I have a meeting tomorrow night. So, we're, you know, trying and I also have a meeting with uh the architect on Thursday. So, we're plans are [clears throat] moving a little, you know, more and more about the other barn. And uh other than that, we you know, we're looking at just improvements and whatever we can help with other, you know, other businesses and stuff like that. So, it's it's the our what we call our over we have to notify all the overlapping units that is affected by the RDC. Okay. So, that's what's happening tomorrow night. Okay. So, and I'm going to a band concert right now. So, I'm leaving. So, EDC

EDC I don't have much. Patrick, thank you for that letter we sent to the area. They did move the vehicles except they only moved the 50 foot into their into your yard. So, [clears throat] something we got to be able to do with that, too. I mean, it's starting to be a junk pile, which what are we talking about? It is up north. Oh, yeah. That's county, but by the church, people are starting to complain about a car being parked along the the property line of the church. And they did move and they tried to move the boat, couldn't they? stuck in our in the churchyard and they had to fix it. But they just moved them over to their driveway and I don't know what they're doing with those cars. Even his backyard is full. But

I don't know what you can do about it. It's got to be vehicles handling it. Sorry about your abandoned under the ordinance call back at the county. I know that has a bigger problem. So, thank you for sending that letter. Uh we're we're still working on concepts for the the splice pool splice pad. Talk to Andy and see if we can do something with DLZ to design something or he can design it for us and not charge us. [laughter] You got to try everything as you can. I'm not the splash pad design. [laughter]

Your information. [laughter] I apologize. Next is fire chief. Hi girl. [clears throat] You got anything for us? So everything is going as planned as far as I know. [clears throat] Okay. Nothing new. Nice to see you. Nice to see you. Okay. I do have answers for your questions from the last meeting. Okay. You want those now? Sure. On fire department. Sure. So, I went through the uh I was online watching the watching the meeting

in the hospital bed. It was fun. Um the medications help enhance the meeting a little bit. So you guys were pretty funny that night. Um so I had to go back and get it again. But it's we started with the water bill from the one that not the water bill the for the water pipe the water man the main

the water main break and we charged the $600 and that was after the town taking billing the other half. Has that 600 been paid or it's still litigation? Brandy, that's still pending on us to reply to Marcel, correct? Yeah, I've never got an answer back from you guys.

So, I will give you my I will email my attorney since it's been attorneys. Um, I'm not going to say anything else on this because Marcel has contacted Brandy. So, I will give Brandy my thoughts and opinions via email and then since Marcel was put in this and Brandy put in this, we will let them do the communication on that. Okay. Okay. Attorneys were called. So, the attorneys can we can talk to our own attorneys on that. All right. To come up with a resolution.

Okay. Um, and then we had a question about, which I think Joe answered pretty well, was the rate study and our um, water bond that we have now, and that's why the rates have changed and that's why we had to start charging for water for training. Correct. So, I know that was a question, but I think Joe answered that one very well.

Um, can the town bill a homeowner direct? We cannot. The fire department is the unit taking the water from the hydrant where you are the one that is built. I will give another example. If ventures are filling somebody's pool, they get their water from North Liberty. The town of North Liberty is not charging the person pool to take that water. They're charging ventures. So when the fire department takes fire out of our system, we have to charge, [clears throat] not the homeowner that we're taking it to. And Brandy's there to help answer any of Dev's questions if he needs.

Are there any more questions on that one? No. No. Because there's state code saying different. [snorts] saying that what their state code saying different. So unmetered water which we take out of according according to our ordinances and our water rate study and when we did our new water um which is kind of what I brought up last time. Yeah.

Yeah. This is how we have to bill it is whoever takes it. So what the state says may not be the same as our water ordinance and our water. Are we talking about an IURC regulation because those don't apply to

so [clears throat] state code I don't know exactly what it is but or how how it's worded but it says unmated water you cannot charge fire department for water unless we turn in water slip you know saying we use so much water you cannot guesstimate how much water that was used by going off your [clears throat] power meters or however now if there is a meter on that hydrant and we turn that hydrant on. Yes, you can charge. But none of the meters or none of the hydrants have meters. If that were true, that would mean anybody anybody from anywhere could come hook up to one of our hydrants, not fill out a slip and take water from us.

You are correct. But this this here specifically says emergency fire water. I would have to turn this question over to Vinnie because I have given what I know about it. Um, and I don't think anybody could just hook up. I think there has to be like Veterans doesn't even hook up test anymore. That's why they go to Liberty because they stop turning in slips. We offered to hook them up with their own to help them get their own meter within their building and he didn't want to do that. So, we had to stop it all together. There may be a stipulation for an emergency fire. I don't know. That would be up to Brandy. That's not the kind of question I can answer just in here.

Correct. Right. Which we asked before. We've talked about this a lot in the past. This has been going on for well since I came on the board. It'll be 12 years this year. So, this has been a discussion that's been going on forever. And we were told by the rate people that we had to charge you and that we had to charge everyone that used the water because we have to account for every bit of our water. There was here's about our water and how with rate study how some of the stuff came out. There are a couple empty lots in town that there aren't even houses on that but there's a water hookup

and they have to pay a rental to have that even [clears throat] though it's an empty lot if you have access to water you have to pay and so those people I mean it's specific enough that there's two properties I know of no war that I know of sorry on the corner of Monroe and Lake that they had to have their Joe you can help me out on this more didn't you go and remove their main so they couldn't up to anything ever [clears throat] in order to avoid a fee for them. It's [clears throat] an empty lot, but we still have to charge them. We have to charge everybody and anybody that touches

our sewer, right? Our hydrants, I think that's just sewer. [laughter] Okay. Yeah. for residents and businesses in the town is different from emergency fire water. I'm happy to look this up, but it's not going to get resolved now. So, yeah, res we will wait for Brandy. Yes. Give us a full opinion on that. Okay. Okay. [clears throat] Um here's a sign of history. Huh. A sign of history. Notice as of August 1st. How old is resigning?

If there's no settlement between township, town, and apartment, where did that come from? This is uh probably back in the 50, early 50s, early 60s. Did you see it? Well, that was way before. So, for the whole generation of this thing, the the two cannot get along. It's never It's always been this way, but we tried really hard for that not to be that Well, I mean, it has not been that way for for years. Like when we came I'm saying it was late 50s, early 60s. Oh my god, that is the best sign ever. Before I was born, I was living this town then. [laughter] That is the best. But they actually had a full sign made.

Well, that's when you had Lakeville Department. That's when you had Lakeville Fire and Union Township Fire. So like two different fires, right? Two different parters. Got it. So when the chief went to buy something, my mom might not have been. When the chief went to buy something, he would have to go to the town and say, "We want to buy this. It's going to cost." Can I take a picture of that? I would like a picture of that. You got to get your Yeah, because that's pretty awesome. I will. No, actually my hand too. crayons out earlier today.

Joe's mom, she was a dispatcher back in the old days because the public ran in to people's homes and they dispatched the fire

for a fire department. They just ran constantly answering. So they had four of those. There was one at Jack's bar. Okay, this is how that far back goes. So cool. When I was very young, that was still happening cuz I remember that answer home and they had a button back then. That's where you found all the fire guys. They hit the button hit [laughter] their house. They had a button they hit and set on the siren and then all happened. We didn't have radios and pers. You just listen for a fire sard fire siren. You hit the fire station. Hey Dan, you know you're showing a sign of video, right? Yes. Okay. Okay. That was really cool. [laughter] So thanks. I've never seen you dearly. Right.

Well, I just come across that the other day. I was like, I'm taking that next board meeting because this has been an ongoing issue. Not every every year, but it probably will be every three boards or something. You know, they get into the same bad pennies all the time. Like I always used to say, bad pennies. But I just thought that was kind of interesting. Some heritage there. Yeah. Okay, let me continue with these questions. But I I like that. Thanks for sharing. [laughter] And I'm just kidding about the age joke kind of. Sort of. Yeah, it's probably all right. I'm probably pretty close to the oldest in here. All right. I'm 70. Me too. [laughter]

Did we play together? Okay. Yeah. Where is it? Grand Street or Grand Street? There's two of them. There is a Grand. So Mario He lived in L's old house. He was born in Lann's old house. I'm great. Lam's old house. Go. That's where he was living as a baby. Oh, okay. Well, then we live behind the fire station. Yeah. Yeah. Fire station actually bought our house to do the addition up here. What were you running to talk about, Lori? [laughter]

Okay. I want to finish these questions really quick. Um, there was a question. So, the town pays approximately $45,000 rental for hydrants that goes out to the hydrant rental. We've talked about this over and over and over again. Correct.

In last meeting, it was stated that this is [clears throat] for repairs. And if this is for repairs, then why is that $600 not covered for the main break? But it was said it was for repairs. So that there was a confusing answer in the last meeting. So as far as the hydrant rental fee that everyone pays or the fire maintenance fee, that does not cover a water main break. That does not cover the cost of a water main break. A water main break, Joe, on average is going to cost us how much? Uh 15 to $2,000 just depending.

Yeah. So once that is completely separate from this hydrant rental fee correct if a water man breaks that comes out of the water department that does not come out of hydrant rental and we have to make sure that the hydrants are all running and working properly to help insuranceances on our people's houses into the water rate incorrectly at the last meeting and I just want to clear that up specific pay this on a water bill, but there's a water mane break in front of my house or anywhere else. Yes, we had that for years.

If you have a water main break, that's not what that covers. Our water main breaks if am I correct, Joe? Yes. For that comes out of the water department, not out of that fire hydrant money. Correct. And that's not how it was stated in that meeting. So, I just wanted to make this clear. It was stated that that is part of that. It is not and our stated that our Kelly asked it and you agreed. You can go back and watch it. I didn't agree on anything about any of the hydrants or anything. I was just listening to people talk.

Okay. I'm not arguing with anybody. Okay. So, moving on. correctly. Do you have anything else? Yes. Okay.

It was also stated that 85% of the territory fire territory belongs to the township and only 15% of it belongs to the town. The town use to give water for training. Okay. So, we did explain that. That's what Joe explained really, really well. Um, what else did I have on that? There is a fire territory meeting on March 11th, same day that they're supposed to start putting water in the hydrant and my birthday. So, please feel free to bring gifts. I cannot accept um

focus in on Dan and Joe and they have like that same going on right now. I've never looking like you're related before. But [laughter] what I can see the two of you turn you just shut the power off on [laughter] black screen. I can't see anybody else. It's just got the two of you. I don't know how to I don't know how that has nothing to do with the computer. It's going on like There you go. Can you see Randy now? Now I see Randy and Joe. Oh, there you go. I see everybody. Yeah, finally zoomed out. Andy didn't shower. [clears throat]

Well, he doesn't have a friend, right? Okay. Dan, in the last meeting, you talked about some of the ordinance violations that need to be attended to that have need to be tended to for the past five years. I completely agree 100%. Patrick has started to try and take care of some of those. Patrick does have his own personal golf cart now. Um, do you still need lights on that, Patrick? Uh, yes. I would like to ask for a motion for the town to reimburse Patrick with lights on his golf cart that he's driving through town with no lights at night checking on violations. I'll make a motion.

Yeah. I I don't know if I'm allowed to make that motion, but it shouldn't be that much. And I know you're trying to get lights, so the town will pay for those for you, Patrick. So, get your lights put on, then you can do more of your what you need to do when the weather breaks. Yep.

Um, territory meeting on the 11th. There was also questions about the sidewalk. So, the town does mow the um right away on 31 except for front burner. They know theirs and [clears throat] um we were talking about snow removal

and we couldn't we don't get the snow removal on that. Well, I do have a quote and I will send that to everybody in email. So NT oh man Gary um NTF is the company name. They are looking into getting some of snows that we stand on. Oh yeah.

And he sent We're all going on an adventure because the deleg um so he gave us the quote on how much it would cost to do the town center and there's two or three different quotes depending on where he starts and when he stops. So I will forward that on and possibly next year for snow removal. And we have to remind everybody that we mow out of the goodness of our heart, too, because it's actually supposed to be the people who own the areas, but we do it just because we can't get people to cooperate with that. Well, same with the snow, but they do. There is a bigger downfall when you live on 31 because [clears throat]

didn't didn't EDC agreed to do snow removal and mow they did. So, [clears throat] I mean, I'm not I'm not condoning them for not doing that was a long long time ago. We need to notify the homeowners that they are now responsible to, but we do have the option of getting a price. Well, I I have a price, so it's an option I'm going to put on the table. Okay. Or I mean, we have till December. I think about it. Yeah. Yeah. You never know. I think it's a good idea to look over options. This year was rough.

Okay. So, I have one. I will forward that to everybody. Um, Carol and Denny left. Does anybody know if the bar ever got their AED? Their what? AED. Their AED. Shocker. Did they get their We don't know.

I will personally call Teresa Margo. she heads up the Zach Marco Foundation and see if she can help us get one because you can get these free all day long. They can donate them. Um if not, uh one of the gentlemen that I go to church with is in charge of recycling the old ones over at uh Republic and they have boxes and boxes of them that just need new bags. has one. We have one that a battery that for the barn fun just purchase a battery and new just have to buy a case for it.

That barn is rented every single weekend with how many people sitting inside and there are there's no [clears throat] fire department. You guys are usually pretty good about answering a call pretty quick because you have people sitting there. Yeah. But [clears throat] and once you guys get those AEDs, we can come in and train you guys or whoever is there to how to use them. You don't have to be certified. No, you don't have to be. [laughter] And the hardest thing about using those thing is opening the lid there and somebody wants to grab that and do what it says on it. I would be more secure with that than not having it in place.

Yeah. Yeah. So there's no reason to not have anything. Great. You guys can be there within five minutes, but CPR needs to be started within the first two is life or death sometimes. Everybody agrees. We all think it's what I said everybody agrees with you. We all think it's all now you're number three. [laughter]

Yeah. You're not four, you're three. You're a little blurry, but I think I know your face better. Um, so there was that. And I have just a few more things and then I promise I'll shut up and then we go. Um, that's all I have for fire. That's all I have for the AED. Um, Easter. So, oh, I do have on Easter. [cough and clears throat] Um, Easter is April 5th. April 4th is Newton Parks, which we will end up doing some craft like we always do. I will take volunteers. Now, if we want to work one hour each, somebody wants to work the whole day. I think it's only what, two hour deal because they get their eggs and then they come through really quick. It usually goes pretty quick for Easter. It doesn't last all day like Christmas. So, that'll be on April 7th, April 4th. We'll be needing help with that. On Sunday, April 5th, Heartland Church has asked permission to use Salt Park for an Easter egg hunt. They said it's called the park. Anybody could use it.

Huh? Are the trenches filled in? They're filled in. Everything's done up there since a ros on them, but that won't do anything until the ground falls. Well, by then, you have kids running around. Well, either way, it's a public park. They can use it whether they ask us or not. Correct. What else?

I agree. I agree. But what [clears throat] I would like to do with that, they are asking for donations. Since they're doing this in park, we can do this as a co-op. Town of Lakeville or it's Heartland Church with the help of Town of Lakeville or things Heartland Church. thinks to the town of Lakeville is doing the sea string and Patrick will go to Bailey's to get [clears throat] candy to fill up the eggs that they have. They are rambling on four bicycles and 30 Easter baskets and they have the eggs asking for candy donations. So if Patrick would go to Bailey's and get all the candy, then our name would be mentioned at the top of the flyer. the whole thing and it could be a community event instead of just the church's private events.

Not at the moment. Okay. Um, it would we it would just be a matter of going and buying candy at Bailey's. I think he was okay with that. Well, I want to make sure the rest of board members are okay with buying candy. Oh. Oh, we're okay with that. It's candy. I thought that service. [clears throat] This is very awkward you being on the laptop. It's just Yeah. Sorry. Okay. Also, didn't we want to talk about other things were dumpsters and Yes. Right. Yeah.

There's park on March 10th. There's tornado statewide tornado drills fire department. You guys are aware of this and you're in on it. What's that? Statewide drill. Statewide tornado drill. I seen something on your guys Facebook uh yesterday or day before. Statewide drills are March 10th. So I think because we've had this issue where we're asking for another signer to be in town.

Why these drills are going off? It might not be a bad idea and the fire department could 100% just go outside and listen. You're going to hear the one at 4:31 if you're outside. You're not going to hear the one down by Stan, but just so that way it was a fire department, which is an emergency services, can help report back as to what I don't know if it's actually working or help us. Anyway, let us know. I don't know what time it is. I don't statewide tornado emergency. You can check that out, too. Yeah,

you guys should have received information about it. But, um, so there's that. I don't know what much we can do about it other than just to let the community know if they hear that it's it's just testing. Well, I think I think they pump that through the schools and stuff, too. So, I think a lot of people might 10:15 a.m. Eastern. Yep. 10:15 a.m. Thank you. Tuesday, March 10th. Tuesday. [clears throat] Yep. Okay. So, it's statewide. We'll let the community know that it's going on just so nobody has to panic. And fire department, you guys know about it, too. So, well, we can put something on Facebook, too, to remind people.

Both of them. Yeah. Okay. So, there was that garage sale dates. I've had people asking already. I guess it's really not that far off, is it? No. Have we been doing it this third? The third Saturday. The third Saturday. So, it's the weekend after Mother's Day that we've been doing it, right? Yeah. Yeah. Which takes us to May 16th this year? Does everybody agree on that date? I'm I'm fine with that. Have you thought about maybe doing it for a weekend? Some places do it for like the

Yeah, they most of them do it. setting up Friday.

Put an S on me today. Yeah. Yep. All right. And Patrick, we're going in dumpsters for that again. Yeah, we'll do the 240 yard dumpsters again. Yeah, that works out really well, I think. Where did we put them last year? Joshua Tree. Okay. in the parking lot. They're right by the fire department. [clears throat] So, there's so many cars in Yeah, we There has to be something we could do without them saying that. Now, there's like double-decker rows of cars in that market. Okay, listen. Yeah.

I wanted to go dumpster diving. I'm not going to lie, but I didn't. I refrained. But there was like this set of chairs. I'm pretty sure they were my grandma and grandpa's old chairs from their dining room. And then there was a pack and play in there. And I didn't hear how nasty it was cuz I need to use it for the woods for Halloween. Oh. And I did not go get it. Well, I I drained and yeah, I like decorate everything like that. Anyway, [laughter] well, talk about all those cards where you guys want to put Can we do something about that? We need to do something about that. And I realize that you're like, well, I need a letter, but you know how difficult it is to contact them. I don't know.

The other way we can parking lot are becoming so many address has it not it'll go to it'll have to go to the property owner because where they're at which would be Margo can we include pictures for them with a letter if that's the case yeah and they only have so many uh days to get them removed anyways after that point because it would be the same situation as we had with Sam right because [clears throat] it's now becoming a couple cars was one thing now we're becoming a whole parking lot full of cars It's well tow trucks pulling here all day long. It's unacceptable to me that which is fair enough. Our road and tearing up their parking lot.

I think it's unacceptable that he's doing that and getting away with it. And if he needs to do this, he needs to find a building. It just needs to be done. If he's bringing in that much business. Yeah. If he's bringing in that much business, it it doesn't matter. He's [clears throat] not zoned for this end of subject. So just send him a letter that the cars aren't to be parked there. That was over there. I swear that I 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10. There's a couple cars in there that haven't moved for like 6

11 12 13 14 15 16 17 cars double parked in front of one another. Also, it really bothers me because we're not allowing anybody else to do that kind of stuff. He needs to find a building for him to work out of. And maybe he needs to know that too that he needs I know where there's a building up on commerce. [laughter] What would that code violation? The car is political. No, him building on commerce. Yes. Yes.

And it's getting, you know, when it was a couple, you could be like, "Oh, look. He's just doing something for his friends on the side. This is out of control. And it looks bad. Yes. This is a legit business and now we need to tell him. Yeah. Yeah. The cars are separate. I'm not trying to hinder somebody who wants to work for themselves. They just need to do it the right way. Well, there's a lot of things, too.

And it's dangerous. You know, you got kids walk you got kids walking through town constantly and all kinds of stuff. And I just like it seems dangerous on somebody else's property. First off, The gull to put all of those on somebody else's property is absolutely outrageous to me. It's absolutely unacceptable. So, we got to do something. We got to start the ball rolling somehow with something. Do you agree, Lori? Absolutely. I complained about it last summer. So, yeah. Now we have a parking lot full.

Okay. So, that's being handled. Yes. Okay. Next thing that I have and Carol just left. I'm assuming she has Saturday for fall festival marked off her calendar for fall festival. We don't have an answer to that. No. No. But I for fall fest. Yeah. Yeah. She wants to have the calendars marked. We don't have we don't have a date really, do [clears throat] we? Y for ball festival. Fall festival is always the second uh Saturday in October.

And then two weeks after that we have Halloween. Halloween is on Saturday this year. Did she write that out as a wedding? I know the 31st I don't think is but I know she said the 30th is booked all day. That's can't we'll have to decorate the 31st instead of 30th. But we can work in the woods all time we need. Yeah. It would be fall festival would be October 10th this year. I don't Yeah, I can check the calendar down there tomorrow too to find out. Okay, check the calendar there. Make sure your 31st [clears throat] is scratched out. Mhm. I'm sorry. Got a bunch of little goblins that are going to be crushing might be a problem.

Okay. Yep. I think that's all I have, guys. Aren't you done hearing me talk yet? You missed me, didn't you? Are we ready? Oh, Jacqueline. Yes. My W2 is wrong. Is it? Yep. It shows taxes for one pay period that came out, not the entire year. Paid $10 in state tax the entire year. probably wanted to pay 800 to the year to the uh state last year. Okay, that which means that there's probably others that are not correct.

So, we still need to talk about what date you want to do the uh cleanup thing. [clears throat] Oh, we do that at garage sale days. I thought that was miss or did we do it the same time? Yeah. Oh, okay. So then that way I was think the first time for Yeah. We keep it the same weekend. So that way if people have stuff left over that way the dumpsters are there for every Yeah. So it's kind of the town white cleanup. So everything's on May 16th when we that whole weekend. Yeah. We'll have them dropped off Friday. I think last year we even got them I think they might have been dropped them off there Thursday and picked them up on Tuesday. They were there. Yeah, we may want to leave them there for a few more days. Mhm. People were still putting stuff in them like the night before.

Yeah. I thought you had it for like 10 days, but I thought maybe most of the contracts [clears throat] are seven days, maybe. Yeah, I know. It was more in the weekend. Well, let's at least make it for a full week. One week at least. From the day they drop [clears throat] it off, they can do it. They'll probably drop them off what? Friday. I think they dropped them off Thursday last year. I think Thursday there until like 10 days till on Monday. So that way it gives people two weekends of clean up. Is that too much? I'll have to check with them to see how long they'll give us. But yeah,

because two weekends of cleanup might help out rather than just doing, oh, we had garage sales. I don't have time to go through the basement, right? I mean, you should go through your basement for your garage sale, but I don't know. Some of the house [clears throat] we've been in probably fil. What should the houses you've been through? Yeah. [clears throat] I want to know gentleman behind [clears throat] my house a couple years ago. Dan was still in the apartment. Weren't you Dan? Oh, we already talked about that. There was [clears throat] Has it been resolved though?

There is no resolving of that. You can't really resolve that. There's no there's no ordinance. No, too much chatter, but okay. [laughter] [clears throat] No. Talking about the the condition of some of these houses, were you still in the apartment when the gentleman that lived in the house behind me passed away? Yes. There were every kind of insect and bug crawling on firemen as they came out of that house. So I can even mostly fleas and cockroaches. That's terrible. Disgusting. But it's really pretty house. [clears throat] That is good.

So yeah, they play and cockroaches ain't that bad, huh? Play and cockroaches ain't that bad. Maybe not for you. body. That's a whole another [clears throat] story. When you have to strip before you get back in the truck, there's a problem. I admire what you guys do. I couldn't do it. Thank you for your services. Have any of the 105 110 111 East Monroe Street complaints been taken care of?

Okay, that's all. And we don't have a actual [laughter] a code or anything for our trash cans. Like we just ask people to put trash cans on. We can add that. We have an ordinance, don't we? I don't. Not on that. I mean, not on that. We don't. But we made an ornament years ago for $25 that they had to be removed. We did do one, didn't we? I don't remember that. So, we have to look after they were built. It's It goes along with the snow removal. Yeah.

Well, and the reason and I talked to Dan about that last time because I know the reason a lot of it this time was was because of the snow. Like people were literally couldn't get their trash cans up and down their driveways, but that's not an excuse when it's 75° out. Correct. I would say there's we don't really have any only used there used to be two houses. Yeah. There was really only used to have two problem houses on uh um Jackson on Jackson Street and they had actually made ended up after talking several different times, they made their own cubbies for them.

Good. Good. So, yes, we do have an ordinance. It's right along with that snow removal ordinance off the sidewalk. Sidewalks must be cleared. All right. This is your meeting, April. I'm gonna end the meeting. Has anybody else got anything else they want to talk about? Randy does. Randy does. Well, since Hi. How you doing? Can you see him? [clears throat] This will be quick since it took the time. I was going to talk about a tax deferment program the council's working on. Okay.

But it's been tabled. So, when I come back in June, then I can let you know if it passed. It's just to help grandma stay in her house or grandpa or me [clears throat] in my house. So tax affirming. What time was the big meeting tonight? That's great for people struggling like that. Yes. I'm sorry. What? Lori, what time is tonight's big meeting? Uh I don't know what big meeting you're talking about, Lori. tonight. Uh it's a meeting about um the ballots and who will or will not be on them. Well, that was last week.

It was on the news today saying that there was a meeting tonight coming up about it. Oh, maybe the meeting I went to today when it's been a lawsuit and they wanted to get out of our county move to Elcart. Maybe that's what you're talking about. And the judge will decide that uh tomorrow afternoon. Okay. So that's something it's all about. There's there's big controversy that one person's on the ballot. His name is You can pronounce it better, Randy. I'd rather not. [laughter] [laughter]

Yeah, play the fifth on. But uh so I'll talk in a couple months then if it's been tabled for the tax deferment program. So hopefully we can get that passed, but there's a couple people have issues with it. Person that I don't want to talk about. And so um we'll talk about a couple months. But I did bring somebody with me tonight. I want to introduce everybody. Um our our auditor, John Murphy, and I'm not going to bring Democrat folk in any of this, but I will. John's a great guy. He's a Democrat and he's retiring. And he had hired Abby here. She's our deputy auditor. I think I brought her up last time I was here. Yes, I remember you. Yes. And and so I think she was at our festival, was she?

Yes, she was. Came down with Gail and I and she's worked for Leil at school somewhere south of here. Okay. And and so she's running as uh and she does not have a primary challenger so far. There's no Democrat running against her. And so John, our is her treasurer. So that's one of the department. I don't care if you're Democrat or Republican. You've got to get the job done. Yep. and and John and Aby's done a great job. So, I'm supporting Abby, of course. Any question now? Okay. No, not at the moment. But she'll be if you ever need anything to call Abby or anybody here. Thank you. Yeah. But

Bill Garrett. Oh, I I really enjoy Phil. [laughter] [clears throat] I'm unique. I'm unique. Oh, man. No, I think he's a really good person. I don't know. G just comes off really like people like work with him. I've never heard him say that they really enjoy them. Oh my gosh. Yeah, man. What does that say about my character? [laughter] There's that people like to work with me. Enjoy listening to work. Oh well, I've only worked with him. I don't know him outside of work, so maybe that's a different personality. But trivia, my wife might be related to him. I think they are. Yeah, I'm not. Hope not. I hope not. If you're [laughter]

Yeah, that would work, would it? That'd be awesome. Okay, stop recording. I'm done. There's like one way that could work out. [laughter]

Thank you. Yes, we always enjoy your glad you're open for coming and listening and hearing us and helping us when we need it. So, looking for the parade. See you in June. We'll talk. Yay. He's oblivious. Who? What? Smile. Do you want to Do you want me to close the meeting? Is it? [laughter] I don't mean nothing. I'm just messing with you. [laughter] I was at home. Sorry. Yeah.

Yeah. I have one more thing. So, [clears throat] back to the green apartment laundry mat. I thought the DLZ done all commercial building sites for permitting. No. No. I only DLZ if it's going to be like a large apartment and we consulted with DZ as far as water usage in amounts, but other than that, no. Other than that, it just falls on zoning. You said last meeting that they had lines or roof wrap down for down for driveway. They just had limestone and it's not nearly wide enough for two vehicles. It should be Roville when they put it in.

It's not. So how do they get occupancy if their driveway is not proper? I don't issue occupancy. That would be St. Joe County building. They follow our guidelines. [clears throat] Correct. That would be a question for why the building department did what they did. I think is what he's saying. Yeah. Building department doesn't have anything to do with with parking that falls under the town zoning or

and our zone zoning doesn't even specify a number of spaces for off- streetet parking. Um we just typically follow the one one uh one space per unit and there's plenty of off streetet park as far as there's plenty of street parking around there anyways. And they actually went with the two spaces. [clears throat] They actually have four spaces there for parking. But they're not even done with their whole entire project yet. They only have occupancy on one apartment currently. And there's a house going in there. And there another house on the back. There will be. Yep. As well. Supposedly. Mhm. Yep.

Okay. Anything else? Anything else that you can think of? Anyone else? Andy? No. You sure? I am pretty awesome. We had a lot for everyone. We had a lot of stuff on the list this time. So, that time of year coming up more busier. It's just because I've been [clears throat] that's the whole thing. I don't think so. I don't think that's it. I think it's just that time. I don't think so. I think it's that time of year. [clears throat] [laughter] Okay. So, I'm gonna end the meeting.

Hey, Jacine in the office. Okay. I'll be here tomorrow. Oh, yeah. Go ahead. You'll be here tonight yet. Well, yeah. So, you're going to be in office. I'm going to end the meeting at 7:16 p.m. [clears throat] [laughter]