City Commission - Regular Meeting

so many papers up here. Keep these to yourself. Keep these to yourself. Oh, here's a consent. Oh, consent. Yep, got it.

Okay, I'm ready for the rest of it.

We are ready.

Madam Mayor, it is 6.09 and we are live.

thank you madam claire good evening everyone and welcome to the city of lake worth beach regular city commission meeting of september 1st 2026. how did that happen may i have the roll call please september may have the mayor betty rash uh vice mayor mimi may president commissioner sarah maliga is ill and is not right she will not be here this evening send our regards and hope she feels better

For sure. Commissioner Christopher McVoy?

Here.

Commissioner Anthony Segrich?

Present.

Great. Okay, the invocation is going to be led by Mr. Segrich, and I will lead the Pledge of Allegiance.

We'll just take a moment of silence.

Okay.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you. I was on a Zoom meeting with the high school group this morning, and they say the Pledge of Allegiance, and I was very happy to hear that. I wasn't sure. Okay, I have an addition or a suggestion. Any other additions, deletions, or reordering?

I don't have anything, Madam Mayor.

I would like to add, whether it's for discussion or action, I have to ask a little bit. I'm very concerned and there's been a lot of concern lately about the flock cameras and I would like to add that as either a topic of discussion for us. the the governor has taken away the flock cameras um and i think quite a few cities have done that and i would like some you know consensus or just an agreement that we should either discuss getting rid of them or i don't know what our contract says how we can cancel it but i would like to talk about flock cameras so can we talk about that tonight

I have no problem talking about it. I would like to not do it tonight without any preparation or any sort of research or any sort of backup or anything like that.

So what I'd like to do is maybe put it on another agenda. So the legal has a chance to look at it and we have a chance to look at it. I'm not suggesting we take it.

Yeah, no, I don't want to. I definitely need to talk about it. Not tonight. Consent to add to an agenda. Consent to add to an agenda.

consent agenda okay now i i am not going to be here just so we don't put it on the agenda of the 29th i'm not going to be here on the 29th um so however if you can have a light agenda that night that would be cool okay so that's all i wanted to do there's nothing else um so we're just going to add it as a discussion topic or just put it on the agenda next agenda with backup next if there's no you just do the 15th and then it'll be the 29th which i won't be at october 6th maybe i changed my flight so i will be here for the october 6th meeting i can't miss two meetings in a row so um i'm coming back early mr uh as mr secretary had light on his first i think i think so too uh thank you madam mayor

At our last meeting, we had a good discussion on the vacation rental and changes to the LDR topics. And we were almost at consensus, but we had a disagreement about the charging of commercial rates. And I've done extensive research into it. I know our legal team is doing so as well. I'm inclined to say that things have changed in the courts from my research, and there are ways that cities can charge commercial rates for vacation rentals. And so I was going to ask that we untable it and then revote. And I would be in agreement with Commissioner Malega's position where she wanted to If we had a legal pathway to do so, that we do charge commercial rates, I thought it would save us another meeting for having to bring it back because we were in agreement on all points except for that, and I'm willing to modify mine. So I wanted to untable it and then retake the vote.

Okay, I appreciate that. Mr. Torcivia, what can we do? This still comes under like additions, deletions.

I'm trying to remember, that was a quasi-judicial matter?

No, it was the... We tabled the matter.

I was just bringing it back on an agenda, even if you put it on a consent, just so that Commissioner Maliga can be here to vote on it. And I hear you saying that you're agreeing with her position, but...

So we could put a consent on the next agenda, maybe. You could.

We could put it on. So I would make the motion to untable it.

and then basically after that we would change it put on the next agenda and put on the consent consent but it's going to be because can we mr um harry can we add that to the madam clerk i know i'm sorry william just reminded me that when you tabled it it was tabled to a date certain october 6th yeah what date October 6th. Oh, perfect. Okay. I was trying to say it's going to be on October 6th.

Understood. We have a lot for those agendas. And if we were all in agreement, we could have second reading on October 6th.

Or we can put it on October 6th consent. I was just trying to save us another meeting.

No, it's an ordinance now. You have to read it by title.

It was a change in the LDR title. Okay. So your safest bet is just to, and it's in trying to save time, but just put it on October 6th and deal with it very quickly.

Will that be first or second reading? Because we had to change. Okay. So it's the best way to do it. Okay. Okay. Thank you, Mr. McVoy. What? Well, we all do our best. Mr. McCoy, your light is on.

Yes, thank you. I was wondering whether in terms of reordering, re-additions, blah, blah, blah, those things, whether we could move D, given that I suspect there's a lot of people here for that one, to under unfinished business, D as in dog, I guess, move it up to either A or B. Preferably A, but I defer on that.

Well, we also have people here from the pinnacle, and that's going to be a... Where's the pinnacle? The pinnacle happens before that. Public hearings.

No, I was going to move it within unfinished business to move it up. So partway moving it up, but not all the way.

I'm okay with that. That's fine. Mr. Segrich? That's fine. Okay. So I need a motion to approve as amended.

motion to move oh good motion to move item d under unfinished business the law enforcement services agreement from d to a and all the others down one okay second all in favor aye aye so uh we have a do we need another motion to now accept the motion to accept the amended agenda thank you second all in favor aye thank you um

presentations first up we have our own erica whitfield district 4 school board member and proud resident of lake worth beach tell us some good news about our future

hi everyone good evening i am erica whitfield i am your school board member for almost 12 years now um very 12. isn't that crazy i know it's gone by so fast and it's been a long time and i would say that erica was introduced to local government by attending the municipal institute with us many years ago and that's and we're doing it again now the major institutes and serving as your rec board chairperson for seven years

Yeah, it was a long time.

No RAF races. That didn't happen. Yes. So thank you all so much for having me here tonight. I want to come by. First of all, I am ending my time on the school board very shortly in November. November 16th is my last day. So I want to make sure to come by and give you all the update on the schools that I always try to do and really be available for any questions. The things I'm going to talk about today very briefly are the 11-day count where we stand with our schools and the impact that that's having on the schools i also really want to talk to you about the referendum they is going to be on your ballot upcoming november 3rd and then i'll just talk a little bit about the grades of the school and if you have any questions about anything related to the schools here i would be happy to answer them the first thing i would mention is about the number of students within our school system Last year, we faced a pretty harsh reality of a loss of students within the Palm Beach County Schools. That was very difficult for us because the way that our funding is tied to the schools is we get funding based on a per student basis. We get around a little over $9,000 a student that comes down to us from the state. And so when we see these major shortfalls in the number of students that we have, that then correlates to a lack of money that we get here in the state of Florida per student. And It then means that we have to either lay people off or make cuts in different places. So one of the questions that came to us last year was whether or not we were going to give raises to our teachers, which obviously everybody wants to do. But in order to give raises to our teachers this year, which we ended up doing, the impact to that was that we did need to lay off some teachers, which was not great. And so when you see that happening, it means we're restricting on the number of people that are in the system. So we need less teachers, but you can't always pick the right place to choose where that's going to come from. So this year we are seeing another decline that is higher than we expected for the year. So we're almost to 7000 students that are at the 11 day count, not within our system. So what are the reasons for that? We think there's multiple reasons. The first one that I find the most entertaining is we have a low birth rate. And so our birth rate needs to increase. We need people to have more babies in order to keep going with the number that we have. So that's my message to everybody. Unfortunately, there's some not as fun reasons. So we have the vouchers which have been given to us by the state. The vouchers mean that you can take your funding as a resident and you can take the funding that we would allocate for your student and use that at a private school. So if you're doing that, then when you go to the private school or obviously charters always were like this, or even if you want to do homeschool, you just let the state know through step up for students and they will send you the funding that would have gone to the school system. the issue that we have is not so much when people do that, but when they do that and then come back to the school system a month later, once they have been counted as not attending their public school, we still have to provide them an education. So we always have every year many, many, many students who think they're going to start doing homeschool and then the parents change their mind or private school and they didn't like the option and then they come back. And so when that happens, we are then still giving the education. However, we're not getting the funding for it. And so we've restricted on the number of teachers, but then the number of students then increases throughout the year. And this happens specifically in Lake Worth Beach. You're seeing a lot of that happening. here and so when you see those those numbers um it is a very hard burden on our schools because you know we have to adjust based on the number of children that are there but i have schools that i'll visit and you know every single day they're getting a new student and it's they're coming in and they are signing up for school if that happens a few times you know you can absorb that but when it starts happening a lot it becomes a really big issue One of the other issues here in Palm Beach County is cost of living. And that is really something that, you know, we all think about every day is how much it costs. And so when people are struggling with cost of living, sometimes they'll move out of the area. Or even in this case, some people still work here in Palm Beach County, but have moved to Port St. Lucia and then just commute back or from wherever they go to. So we know that that happens. And then finally, I will say the most sensitive issue that people talk about is our immigration issue. And so the demographic changes that are occurring when we have people that are nervous to go to our schools or feel that they can't live in this area anymore because they don't want to, you know, be in trouble any other way. That is a real impact on our school system. And you can see that by looking at our ELL population. Those are our English language learners. And so we know an English language learner is a person who we don't take any kind of information from whether or not our students are supposed to be in the country or not. But if you look at somebody who's recently arrived in the country and then they don't show up for school, we can make some assumptions, especially when we're looking at our numbers. So we are going through all of that right now for the 7000 students that I just mentioned. We are expecting some will come into the system after that. But I think it's important for Lake Worth Beach to understand the impact on the schools and what that means. So our teachers right now take the 11 day count. Our teachers, our principals take the 11 day count and they look at basically projecting what their school is going to be like for the year. And then as students start to come in, you're seeing that shift of needing more people, but not having the funding to do that. And so that's a, it's a real issue. So that's something that we are dealing with. We did have, so at 11 day count, we were at 59.90. is what our reduction was. Charter schools actually lost 969 students. Our percentage was about 3.78 and theirs was 4.51. So their percentage was a little higher. Obviously we have many more students, so our number was much higher. Within your schools specifically, I just want to give you a little rundown of the grades. This has been tough for us with these funding restrictions, and the state of Florida only allocated 0.6% of a raise to the state of Florida per student basis this year, which is so much lower than it's ever been. We usually hope for 5%, and in years past, we would get close to that, but we haven't seen that in a long time, and this year was really, really low. um but we still managed to give our teachers a three and a half percent raise after all of the back and forth that we went through we did pull it off it is going to be difficult to do things like that again this year with continuing reductions in numbers of students so i think that's something that we have to really be you know paying attention to but even if you think about the struggle that we've had our principals and teachers have risen to the challenge they are doing amazing amazing work we maintained an a again for the third year in a row We had a B right before that. And before that, we were in A. So there's one little blip there. But every year when the state of Florida sees that many schools are able, many school districts are able to attain that A rating, what they do is they kind of ratchet it up and make it harder. So it's actually gotten more difficult every year for the past many years. Since that policy has gone into place and so you're going to see it going up again this year and I don't know that we're going to make it so we'll see as a school system if we're able to maintain that a if they do. Even if they don't hug every teacher you know they are incredible what they're doing so let's talk about the grades here in Lake Worth. So Lake Worth High School maintained their C. I do think we just got a new principal there, Pam McDonough, and I would love her to come meet you all. So I would definitely coordinate that and have her come introduce herself whenever is a good time for you. She comes very, very highly respected and rated from Palm Springs Middle School. And so people are really excited about having her here. So I'd love to have her come. Just so you know, the numbers at Lake Worth High School, 25-15 was our numbers at the end of the year last year. Currently, we're at 2262, so a decrease of about 250 kids. So that's where we stand. But remember, more kids are going to come in through the year. We have Lake Worth Middle School also maintained their C. I think they've been doing really good things over there. Please go and visit and see how they're doing. With our elementary schools, unfortunately, South grade dropped from a B to a C and North grade dropped from an A to a B. Really unfortunate. Both of them were really, really close. Barton maintained their C, but our highlight in this community is Highland Elementary, which got a B for the first time in, I think, 17 years. It's incredible the work that they're doing. And really just the amount of challenges that they deal with and to be able to still have these students achieving at such a high level is incredible. I really can't say enough about the work that they're doing. They are so proud. So if you have a chance to go by and say hi to our principal over at Highland and give her kudos from the city, I think that would be incredible. Ms. Frances Fay, she's come here before. She's really... really doing great work. And so we're quite proud of her and the work she's done. So I'm sure you guys have a lot of questions, so I'll stop there. But just for the public in general, I do want to say a huge thank you because I have been elected to be your representative on the County Commission. so on november 16th my last day here as a school board member on november 17th i'll be sworn in as the new district 2 representative for the county commission i am beyond excited cannot wait and i'm thrilled to represent lake worth beach so thank you thank you so much

I just have a quick question. We'll talk about, I mean, the vouchers have really hurt a lot, I think. So if I'm going to go, if I say, oh, my kid's going to go to homeschool, I get $9,000. And if I put my kid in school, I don't have to give back the $9,000.

So the state of Florida did look at legislation to break it up last year. It didn't make it through, but they are looking at doing monthly payments instead of a one-sum payment. But that hasn't gone through yet.

So the charter school gets the money for the child and we get to educate them.

And the homeschool parent has to go home. yeah that's been going on for a long time but this this is really kind of um and what's really unfortunate is if you're a parent and you try to homeschool your kid and you struggle and you want to bring them back like we can all understand that moment but I don't like when people are doing it purposely to try to take money from the state that is um that's you know it's just so I think that the guardrails like the idea was put in place and the guardrails came come later like people see how people take advantage of the system and they're bringing in the guardrails Well, yeah, it's unintended.

I don't know.

It's unintended. And I think that the guardrails are really important. So we have to make legislative changes to be able to make sure that if this is the program you're going for, that it's truly going to work in the way that it was intended. And I think that you can talk to anybody in Tallahassee and they didn't intend this to happen. But getting those changes made, I'm really trying to figure out the way that we contain that loss of funds is really important because we are talking millions of dollars. That's a lot of money.

Mr. McCoy.

Well, that was one of my questions. So I'm all for that idea of monthly. It seems totally unreasonable that I understand the changing of the mind, whether intentionally or otherwise. But either way, you need to put the money back to the school, to the public schools. um one general question and one personal privilege favor um the general question is it's my understanding that with private school or with public schools that are built with public funds there are requirements on them for instance that they be built to standards that they can be hurricane shelters it's also my understanding that private schools do not have that requirement they do not yeah Just keep that in mind, folks. My personal privilege one. It's been my ask for quite a while. The sidewalk coming east from 95 along Lakewood High School. oh okay different question than i thought yeah like there may be another one lake worth high school very steep slope the sand has been eroding off that slope onto the sidewalk makes it very unsafe it is sidewalk gets a lot of bike traffic and it's a real problem before you go figure out some way to put geo cloth on it to put

So I have actually addressed this like multiple times, believe it or not. I've actually addressed this multiple times. I think we go back and forth with whose responsibility it is on the, is it an FDOT property? So it's because it's underneath the 95. And so that is FDOT?

Not underneath 95.

Not that piece? No, no. Okay, go ahead.

from from where the bus comes out so that's east of 95. so you're talking about the school driveway no the sidewalk running east west between that and the entrance to the school maybe not even that full distance but near where the whatever road that is where the bus comes out from parking lot

If you're able to send me like a point on the map so I know exactly what you're talking about. Because I have gone by and seen the sand going under 95, that piece. And there's a staircase that's broken and they keep saying that they're going to fix it. But we've been going back and forth with FDOT and the school district. But yeah, tell me where this is. If you send me just a screenshot or a point or something. Yeah, Sue, I mean, I'll be in another position of help after that. So yeah. happy to do it wherever i am and i have one more and i apologize do we have any updates on the pool i mean so last i heard um we have hired a person to do the design plans we got your list um and you guys feel free to tell me what's going on too um so we got your list of things that you're liking and they're trying to put together the plans i have been more than adamant about this funding i think this is hugely important i'm going to continue to advocate in my new role i think this is something that um is so needed you know wouldn't that be nice i'm definitely putting in the back of my mind um but yeah i would if you have any updates please that makes you correct the first week of school i spoke with miss sanchez again and he said that you know they had farmed it out too well i'd like to have it happen while i'm alive me too But we still have our money set aside. Please don't lose your money. I'm counting on you guys. Don't give up on that little chunk because, man, if it's humanly possible, this is something that we need to do for this community. And so I think it's a great partnership.

Thank you. And congratulations on your new job. I just you said you were going to discuss a little bit about Amendment 3.

Oh, if you want me to. So the impact on the school system, here's how I envision it. And this is just Erica Whitfield telling you what I think. So as everybody knows, with Amendment 3, there were carve outs made. So it's just for anybody who might not know. On November 3rd, you have the opportunity to vote whether or not you would like to pay to get an increased homeowners exemption. So homestead exemption on your bill. So right now, everybody can get up to $50,000. And on November 3rd, if you could vote to get up to $150,000, which then could increase to $250,000. Sorry. So you can go up to 250,000. My personal experience is I live in Lake Worth Beach. I paid $225,000 for my house. So I would pay almost no property taxes, even though I've lived here for 17 years and I have two children and we use services in the city constantly. um so i think that is something that we have to really think about when it comes to a city of this size and this type and the stock of housing and the prices that they were all purchased at so that's something to keep in the back of your mind so when they created this um policy idea at the legislature they carved out schools police fire so that they would not be impacted however The impact that I believe that you're going to see is, as I mentioned this past year, the state of Florida gave all schools 0.6% of an increase. We are seeing a much larger increase in our expenses here in Palm Beach County for just people living here. And every teacher is desperate for a raise because their lives have gotten more expensive. My personal grocery bill has gone up and I don't even eat meat. So there's nothing happening in my life. grocery cart that is that exciting. So I feel that one of the things that you're going to see is if the state has less money, they are not going to give it to the schools. They haven't given it to the schools. And if there's a push on funding, I don't see that increase coming. And we are 46th in the nation in how much we pay our teachers and the amount of money that we get from the state to educate our students. It is a real struggle. Oh, and yeah, I didn't talk about Amendment 3 was not actually, I was going to talk about the referendum. So let me get back to that if you don't mind me taking more time. I didn't mean to talk this long. So, but anyway, so I think the impact of Amendment 3, that is going to be really the biggest thing that you're going to see at the school system is the amount of money is allocated to us by the state. And so if the state has less of it, that is the problem that I see today. As far as the referendum, I apologize, I didn't get to that. We have asked for a referendum here from the voters in Palm Beach County for the last, gosh, it's been like more than 20 years. It used to be a .25 mil, and then we increased it during my time to a one mil levy. That came after Stoneman Douglas. The goal was safety and security. So we added in police officer to every school. We added in mental health resources for our students because of the impacts from Stoneman Douglas and how we believed that we could have caught this issue earlier had we attacked it that way. And then we put in teacher raises. So we have added in $10,000 for anybody who's worked with us for 10 years or more, $5,000 a year for people who've worked with us for five years or more, or $1,000 for one year or more. And so now we're at the position where all the teachers expect that in their paycheck. And so we have been educating everyone on what that impacts. we were to lose that funding so we're asking for a renewal of about the arts yeah so the arts is a is a big part um without this referendum and that was the original 0.25 we would lose approximately 900 teacher positions in art pe music and you know dance things like that choice programs those would all go So I want to make sure that the community is aware of that referendum that's coming out on November 3rd. And, you know, just to really put that out there. So anybody has any concerns or questions, you can get those answered now.

Thank you, Mr. McCoy. Sorry, I wasn't done. I was just turning off my phone. No, I just have one more question. The nurses in schools are funded by healthcare district, correct?

Like 95%, yeah.

And healthcare district comes out of our taxes.

Yes.

And so therefore, if we were not paying... property taxes, we would not be paying health care district.

Right.

So that could affect the level of health service.

The health care district has the ability to raise the millage on their amount if they would like to. I also sit on the Children's Services Council and they are also a line item that could raise their millage as well. So if they chose to, those independent boards could raise their millage up. So right now, like for this, the county commission right now, the millage is four point five with the you know children's services council very similar um numbers so you can go up to 10 mils for any of those independent boards and so they could probably make up the difference but remember that those dollars if they do make up the difference through increasing millage would then be on the backs of people like the businesses and the renters within our community

Right. Yeah. Yep.

So I just think it's important for everyone to understand.

Yeah. It's, it's just how you ask for the money. Right. It comes in from instead of taxes, you're paying fees.

Exactly. So, I mean, it's up to those independent boards, um, and what they, what they choose to do.

Right. And you said there was a carve out for police and fire. I don't mean to correct you, but I am going to correct you. There is no carve out for police and fire. Really? No, they took it out. There is no car vote for police and fire, just schools.

Oh, wow.

Thanks, Neal.

So police and fire have been very adamant.

Oh, man. I thought there was.

No, there is not. There was originally, but the final bill came out.

Thank you guys for clearing that up. I'm going to go have this talk with a lot of people.

I absolutely don't generally correct you.

No, you should 100%. That's very important. Okay, good. Thank you. Okay, thanks, Erica. All right.

thank you Mr Mcboy I just forgot one little one an information request when you were mentioning the components of the roughly 7 000 decrease in students could you send the commission the percentages as best as you're able to estimate by school by school you want to know I think even by County or maybe by Lake Worth is a total County is good enough for me

All right.

Thank you so much. Thank you all so much. Thank you for your service.

I look forward to working with you closely.

Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Good to see you.

Thank you. Now we have the Palm Beach county and national veterans administration post 911 programs and packed act update by Julia spence interim executive director of the West Palm beach va brought forward by Mr sword interim director of leisure service.

Hi. Good evening. Good evening, Madam Mayor, Vice Mayor, and Commissioners. Thank you so much for allowing me to be here. Again, my name is Julia Spence. I'm the Interim Executive Director for the West Palm Beach VA Healthcare System. I'm going to spend a few minutes this evening talking about and honoring September 11th and having a charge for our veterans and inviting our veterans to join and engage in their VA healthcare benefits. So I'll be speaking a little bit about that this evening.

speak up just a little bit.

Absolutely. As many of you know, 25 years ago on September 11th, 2,977 individuals lost their lives. A memory that left an indelible mark and also a mourning that where we were able to truly see the act of heroism by our first responders who risked their lives without hesitation. September 11th also marked the beginning of another shift for our nation. It marked a generation of Americans who answered the call to serve in Iraq and Afghanistan. Some of you in this chamber wore the uniform in the years that followed, though Operation Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom was not a choice for war that you may have started, but you chose to answer it. That choice deserves more than our gratitude. It deserves our follow through.

And that's what I want to speak about tonight.

The VA has expanded care for veterans, specifically those of Operation Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom through a number of ways. Dedicated readjustment counselors at vet centers, free mental health care, education and employment support through the GI Bill and post 9-11 GI Bill. If you have served and haven't connected with VA, tonight is a good night to begin the conversation and that consideration. Another way that VA has expanded benefits is through the PACT Act, Promise to Address Comprehensive Toxics Act of 2022. This represents the largest expansion of VA benefits and services in more than 30 years. It adds more than 20 new presumptive conditions that allow veterans to gain service connection. I'll advance the slides here. All right. The Senate Veterans Affairs Committee named the bill after Sergeant First Class Heath Robinson, who was deployed to Kosovo in Iraq with the Ohio National Guard. After returning from his last deployment, he was diagnosed with an autoimmune disorder and late stage lung cancer. Sergeant First Class Robinson passed away in May of 2020 at the age of 39. This represents, again, a historic law legislation that's been passed to expand benefits to veterans and ensure that more veterans are eligible for healthcare benefits. Tonight's charge to those veterans who haven't sought health care benefits or VA benefits is the ask for those who have once been considered and eligible for VA health care, perhaps due to financial reasons. Those who feel like they may not be eligible, please come forward, ask about your benefits, and allow us to work with you to connect you to the services that you've earned and deserve. Even if you were told no a decade ago, we are here to help gain access and ensure that all veterans receive the care they have earned. 25 years later from 9-11, remembrance isn't only about looking back. It's about making sure the men and women who answered our nation's call are fully cared for today. So again, I want to encourage veterans to come forward. We are available, 561-422-VETS, V-E-T-S, represents our contact number. We also remain available to engage with the City of Lake Worth and bring our resources to you to ensure that veterans in your communities have readily available access to our care and services. Absolutely. So here with me tonight, I have our director of outreach, Mr. Richard Buzz Bryan, who is a veteran himself. He's helped us build a very comprehensive outreach program. We have a mobile medical unit that is outfitted to provide clinical services so we can drive into communities and provide health care with a provider and come to veterans, meet them where they are to begin that initial engagement with care and services.

How would they find out where that mobile unit is going to be?

So we announce the location of our mobile unit through social media. We communicate through messaging, through email. We have a very expansive program, GovDelivery, messaging service that reaches over 80,000 veterans in our communities. We can also, veterans can sign up for GovDelivery through our website by going to www.va.gov and finding the West Palm Beach VA healthcare system. That is another way to connect for our services. We will be working in your community to identify some opportunities to bring our care and services and our mobile medical unit to your community as well.

Can we have a contact number for you? How do we contact you?

Absolutely. We will leave a card here so you can have that available for future contact and connections.

Thank you. Thank you for what is done. I mean, not enough is done for the veterans. The homelessness issue is just so terrible. I mean, you go and you defend our country, and then we don't treat you as well as we should. But thank you for improving that. I want to, Lake Worth has, this will be our third, a little off topic, but I'm going to do it anyway, on Veterans Day. Not enough is done on Veterans Day. And this will be our third annual Light Up the Bridge for Veterans. It's on Veterans Day. We go up on the beach, up on the bridge to Palm Beach. I bring gels and you bring a flashlight or a camera and we line them up. red, white, and blue. It reflects in the water. We have music. It takes photographs. And it's a silent, free way. And I'm inviting everyone. We had over 100 people the first time. It's really a beautiful thing. So I want to stay in touch with you guys to get you all up here for that as well. So thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you again for the opportunity. Absolutely.

Thank you.

Okay. now we have barracks legend president veteran and first responder resource update from 9 11 brought forward by stuart sword interim director of leisure services and you know it's funny john stewart if you know was the one that helped get all those medical all that medical stuff he fought very hard in washington to get uh veterans more benefits mr sword

Madam Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commissioners, good evening, Mr. Angelo Martinez, the barracks legend. So his nonprofit stretches across four counties, Palm Beach County, Broward, Dade, and Monroe County. He's nuclear on social media, and he'll kind of go over what he does for veterans in his capacity.

Thanks. I'm good.

All right. Mayor, vice mayor, commissioners, thank you again for this opportunity. Thank you, Stu. My name is Angelo Martinez. I am a Marine Corps combat veteran, and I am the founder and CEO of the Barracks Legend Foundation.

Is that right?

There it is. All right. So 44 veterans a day take their lives. That is a study done by America's Warrior Partnership, Alabama State, and Duke University. They discovered that the number 22 excludes alcohol and drug-related incidences. So when you combine those, you get 44 veterans or more, unfortunately. And that really is a reflection of when they leave active duty, what do they lose? Structure, camaraderie, and purpose. How do we as a foundation combat that, something so consistent? Well, we host consistent events, everything from shark dives, axe throwing, to cooking classes, wellness days, fishing tournaments, hosting these electrifying experiences that draw veterans out of isolation into community to improve mental health and prevent veteran suicide. Now, again, that is our mission. Our vision is to create a consistent network of experiences that support veterans and build connection. Because a lot of times when these veterans come out to these events, they're not just coming out for themselves, but they're looking for other men and women that have served like them. So you'll see on social media when they start getting together, they're posting barbecues together. They're going on trips together. They're celebrating birthdays and all these things, all because they met at the Barricades Foundation Foundation. And since May of 2023, we have hosted over 200 events, all volunteer-led. I do not take a paycheck, nor does our CO in Italia, nor of our board or directors. Everything we do is on the up and up. Everything we do is oversight, oversight, oversight. None of the money goes in our pockets. We won Nonprofit of the Year through the Hassoff Award last year. It was a great honor. In these last few months, we've been working on some things with Stu to create a stronger veteran community here in Lake Worth. I live in Lake Worth, so I'm very uh, invested in, in drawing veterans into this community to, to build something much stronger than what it is right now. Um, you know, potentially something like a fishing tournament, whatever it may be, uh, through that, but, uh, whatever it takes, because a lot of people don't know that 44 veterans, they take their lives. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's a tough one. Um, uh, and uh again yeah we're just trying to create more experiences here uh with lake worth uh connected with the more more veterans more uh businesses and uh just build stronger community relationship with you guys get in touch with you uh i i have my business cards here uh our ceo is also here as well she's in the back uh natalia and she's back in the court And we also have our chief NAPA officer here, Duke. He's here for meetings too. he's a good boy uh but uh again my name is angelo martinez i thank you again for providing me the opportunity to come speak to you and uh i'll have my business cards thank you for what you do thank you such a critical problem and will you join us on veterans day to light up the bridge uh yes i will okay i will i will be there be in touch awesome thank you so much thank you very much

Um, my question is actually not specifically for you, but I wanted to stay. Thank you Mr. for bringing forward more. Interactions with veterans, and I know that that comes from your personal experience, but that is something that is very important to us as a city and, um. it's it's a it's a stew bonus so thank you for that and thank you very much and the VA has I mean it where does she go with the VA and and programs like this I mean the isolation bringing connection that's what it's all about no matter you know no matter what the the distress is the connection absolutely part so I appreciate that and still I appreciate you bringing it forward thank you and community and support means so much to people that isolation is just deadly

absolutely yes it is thank you so much really thank you I appreciate that absolutely thank you take care thank you so much okay now we have well fittingly we have a proclamation for September 11. Whereas, September 11, 2001 remains one of the most solemn days in our nation's history, marking the tragic loss of 2,977 innocent lives, including men, women, and children whose futures were taken too soon. And whereas, on this 25th anniversary, the City of Lake Worth Beach stands in unity and remembrance, honoring the victims, their families, and all who continue to carry the weight of that day. And whereas we express our deepest gratitude to the courageous first responders who acted with selfless determination, including firefighters, law enforcement officers, emergency personnel and medical teams, many of whom sacrificed their own lives to save others. And whereas we acknowledge and thank all first responders across Palm Beach County, including the Palm Beach County Fire Rescue and Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office for their continued dedication to protecting our community. and whereas we honor our brave military members who answered the call in the days and years that followed defending our nation with courage and unwavering resolve a debt of gratitude we can never fully repay and whereas we encourage all individuals affected whether directly or through lasting emotional physical or mental impacts to seek assistance of the fire chiefs association the palm beach county veterans affairs and non-profit organizations such as the american legion and the barracks legend foundation And whereas, the City of Lake Worth Beach reaffirms its commitment to supporting survivors, veterans, first responders, and all community members shaped by the legacy of September 11th. Now, therefore, I, Benny Resch, by virtue of the authority vested in me as Mayor of the City of Lake Worth Beach, and on behalf of the City Commission, do hereby proclaim September 11th, 2026 as the 25th Anniversary of Remembrance, and encourage all residents to participate in our community remembrance ceremony on september 11th beginning 8 46 cultural plaza be there september 11th 8 46 in the morning it's a wonderful remembrance and i hope that you all come in witness or if i have set my hand and caused the seal of the city of lake worth beach to be affixed this first day of september 2026. um do we want a picture with our veterans folks yeah yes okay including the dog

obviously we just want to pick for the dogs i can just send them up there Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you.

Thank you.

We have a proclamation declaring September 15th through October 15th as Hispanic Heritage Month. Now, even though we understand that these are difficult times, but at the end of them. Okay. Whereas National Hispanic Heritage Month 2026 takes place from Tuesday, September 15th to Thursday, October 15th. this annual period celebrates the history culture and contributions of american citizens whose ancestors came from spain mexico and the caribbean in central and south america and whereas this cultural heritage month is celebrated to highlight the independence from spain of several countries beginning on september 15th with costa rica el salvador guatemala honduras and nicaragua mexico celebrates its independence on september 16th and chile on september 18th also columbus day indigenous people's day or did Dia de la Raza in mid-October falls within the 31-day period, and whereas Hispanic Heritage Month began as a week-long celebration with a public law signed by President Lyndon B. Johnson on September 17, 1968, a successful bill passed by Congress and signed by President Ronald Reagan in 1988, and President George H. W. Bush issuing the first official presidential proclamation for the full 31-day period beginning September 15 and ending October 15 each year. and whereas the 2026 theme is pioneers of change shaping the future together with highlights which highlights the innovators and community leaders and whereas hispanics of every race class and multiple nationalities have made historic contributions to the growth and strength of the city of lakewood beach in countless recorded and unreported ways and plays a vital role an integral role in shaping the present and future of our city in business education law science technology and numerous other fields and whereas the hispanic population lake worth beach is approximately 22 350 people representing roughly 50.3 percent of the city's total estimated 2026 population of 44 436 and whereas in celebration of national hispanic heritage month month we honor the contributions hispanics have made to the city of lake worth beach and highlight an important part of the rich diversity that keeps our community strong now therefore i betty rash mayor of the city of lake worth beach florida by virtue of the authority vested in me and on behalf of the city commission to hereby proclaim september 15th to october 15th 2026 as national hispanic heritage month the witness thereof i have set my hand and caused the seal of the city to be affixed this first day of september 2026 and i feel compelled to just add that um what's happening to the hispanic community in our town is tragic and um but we honor the the the contributions we honor the heritage and uh this is an important part of our community um so would we like to take part of that frank would you like to come up and get this and bring your folks and have a picture Whoever wants to come up.

Come on up.

Yeah.

Wonderful. Well, you know. Almost. There you go. Thank you. And I'm going to work with the Hispanic community in our city. Long and happy life. Thanks to the farm laborers and working with the lifetime. The guys are willing to do this. Can you give me the location?

you have certainly followed that location to me and i mean thank you Where's Miss Cindy? Where's that woman? Come on up. You have to be up here while I read this. Yes, you do. We're going to embarrass you as much as we possibly can. You can take it. For those that don't know, this is Cindy Ansell, our beloved retiring librarian. had a wonderful reception for her this afternoon and uh her history was given a little bit there's also a little book here which your little cute pictures are in from first grade and how about that oh my god thank you the city comes from lake worth beach she's a native of lake worth beach her family lived in lake worth beach and she has served our city for 34 years 34 long years 34 fun years 35 fun years i know i love the pictures okay so whereas public library public libraries are among the community's most enduring civic institutions opening doors to knowledge imagination language discovery and the possibility of a larger life with librarians as the human guides of those institutions connecting people not only with books but with information bless you with information confidence opportunity and one another and whereas the lake worth public library began in 1912 before the town was incorporated when john and lucille mckissick opened their living room to donated books and today continues to welcome the community from its stately 1941 building the oldest municipal public library in palm beach county still operating in its original home That's awesome. And whereas Cynthia, Cindy Ansell's own story with the library began as a child in its summer reading program and grew into a lifetime of study, advocacy, service, and leadership. For 34 years, Cindy has served Lake Worth Library as a volunteer, staff member, children's librarian, and since 2019, library manager, becoming the ninth librarian to lead the downtown library since its 1941 opening. That's a long, that's great. Whereas Cindy has carried the library beyond its walls to meet people where they are bringing story times and literacy programs to schools laundromats community events families and neighborhoods and creating new ways for people to read learn and gather and belong. And whereas, through programs including Books and Bubbles, Table Talk, Be of the Arte, expanded school partnerships, virtual storytimes, and neighborhood videos during the pandemic, Cindy used books and literacy to bridge generations, languages, and cultures. And whereas, guided by herself described Ted Head's spirit and the conviction that one should say, certainly I can, and then learn how. Is that right? That's right. Cindy has devoted herself to what Theodore Roosevelt called work worth doing, bringing to that work deep literary knowledge, sparkling humor, and a binding affection for the people of Lake Worth Beach. And whereas Cindy's service has touched thousands of lives and helped prove her own conviction that Lake Worth Beach may be a small town, but it has never been small-minded. And whereas on August 31st, 2026, Cindy retired from her position as the library manager, turning a page in her own remarkable story while leaving behind a library enriched by her care, a city strengthened by her service and generations of readers enlightened by her knowledge and example. and now therefore i betty rash by virtue of the authority vested in me as mayor of the city of lake worth beach and on behalf of the city commission do hereby proclaim that we honor and thank cindy ann russell with ansel for 34 years of dedicated service to all things literary recognize her extraordinary contributions to the lake with beach library and the people that it serves and extend our warmest with extend our warmest wishes for a joyful adventurous and well-earned retirement in witness or of i have set my hand and exposed the seal of the city of lake worth beach florida to be fixed here too this first day of september 2026. thank you

I'm probably the noisiest librarian you've ever met. I do want to say a few things. First, I want to say thank you for trusting me with your library and just allowing me to have the best job anyone could ever imagine. So I've just it's been my pleasure to do it. I love it. I love this town. I'm so proud of our town. And just everything Lake Worth Beach. So I just want to say thank you for all of you. Without your support, couldn't have done any of it. But I also want to let you know I'm not leaving the library empty. The library is in good hands. Our new librarian who happens to be here, I'm going to ask him to come up. His name is David Larson.

Come on, Mr. Larson.

He's not He's not new to libraries, and he has worked for many years in libraries. He, from the very first interview, just impressed me with his love for municipal libraries, his love for our library. Before he even applied for the job, he and his wife drove up from Broward County incognito, sneaked around our library and our town, and he said, you know what i think this is a place i'd like to work so i mean that was impressive to me that he checked us out and we got the a-okay so David is going to be a great librarian. I'm confident. I'm walking away just really excited about all the things that he's going to bring to the library. Continue, maybe, if he wants to. But he's got a lot of great ideas and a great service attitude. So you're in good shape with David. She has set a very high bar.

Do you want to say something? Certainly.

I have... I am this year entering my 29th year in libraries. Certainly most of those years were spent in management as a library director, branch manager, et cetera. I will say that I've never seen a warmer farewell to an individual who I've had the extreme pleasure of getting to know over the last few months. I'm more used to walking into buildings and being left to figure it out because something has happened. Here it seems pretty much everything great has happened and that's due to Cindy's hard work and her dedication to the library and to this community. I'm very excited about the future of this library. I plan to continue the amazing programs that she has established and throw a few new things in there from time to time.

I look forward to great things from you, David.

Thank you very much. Mr. Larson.

Are you Mr. David or Mr. Larson? She's Miss Cindy.

David is fine.

Like the little kids when they come in. Mr. D. He did start out.

His first library job was a children's librarian. That checked a box for me. And he's also a musician, a jazz drummer. So, you know, I mean, it's just a match made in heaven here.

Perfect. We need a picture. Mentally, you need such a picture.

Well, I haven't. Thank you.

Okay. Public participation of non-agented items and consent agenda. I have a few cards. Ramsey McLeod. You're up. Followed by Mayor Lindsey. Followed by Ramsey McLeod. You get one shot, Ramsey. Followed by Peggy Fisher. Followed by Tyler Chapman.

Hello.

what cleared the room mike no i said i cleared the room ramsden mcleod 24 south c street Mr. Segrich is now in his 18th month as commissioner for District 4. And I must say, as time has passed, he has displayed behavior that seems very personally directed against staff and not in the best interest of the residents in our city. recently he took a personal front at vice mayor may submission of mr perry's name to be considered as a candidate for our city's manager position i know this caught a few people off guard but my interactions with mr perry have been nothing less than professional as well as personable his responsive emails are professional articulate and fully answer any question or concern i brought to his attention He has now been an assistant city manager for over two years, an interim city manager for six months. So he actually has the on-the-job experience needed, which would enhance his ability to step right in and lead. This is the second time Mr. Segrich has made negative comments about a senior African-American member of our staff, which makes me question his ability to be inclusive of all staff members employed by our city and treat them in a respectful manner that is becoming of their tenure and contribution. Based on his behavior to date, I can just imagine how disrespectful, demeaning, and misogynistic he is being toward our female staff members. He is displaying the same demanding, belittling, and self-important behavior we had to endure with Commissioners Stokes, Diaz, and McVoy during Mrs. Carmen Davis's tenure. Again, let me enlighten you, sir. City staff are not here to spend their time working on all the pet peeves you have. Staff are here to support you on the agenda topics you have concerns about. And I, for one, am sick and tired of elected officials forcing staff to place their personal concerns in a higher priority than the responsibilities of the employee's position. Therefore, as the citizen who initiated the city manager referendum and in support of all the citizens who voted for it and based on Mr. Segrich's behavior, I'm requesting members of the dais consider asking Mr. Segrich to recuse himself from the city manager selection process. If you decline, then I recommend you start again and find a new group of acceptable candidates. I think this is only fair to all involved as no one should come to us in this process and not be evaluated equitably. Candidates wanting to be considered now have reason to think twice about even wanting to try and work here, particularly if they are not Mr. Segrich's first choice. I sincerely believe Mr. Segrich's behavior has contaminated this pool of individuals and that the process now openly contains bias and therefore will not be an untainted process.

Thank you. Mary Lindsay. And you can come up on your other thing, Ramsey. Don't sit all the way in there. You got two. Two additions. Miss Lindsay, followed by Miss Fisher.

Mayor and commissioners and members of the public, I came up here tonight to talk some more about Cindy because we just haven't talked enough about Cindy. I am Mary Lindsey. I live in College Park in Lake Worth, and I'm very happy to be there. miss cindy the only thing that makes her retirement even bearable is the fact that david larson is coming in to take over if there is one institution in this city that is beloved of course it is the lake worth library and we are going to be in very very good hands As an aside, the other institution in this city that is equally beloved is the Lake Worth Playhouse. And don't you just know who their newest board member is? Oh, Miss Cindy Ansell. And it will come as a surprise to no one that her first initiative is exactly as her first initiative was when she took the reins at the Lake Worth Library. She wants to take the Lake Worth Playhouse out to the public. find reasons to have performances even little skits even pieces of current productions out there so that the kids at school so that people who could never afford or even think about a season ticket so that it becomes as beloved as a much of a treasure as the library is and you know miss cindy is going to absolutely do that so you know lake worth wins again the lake worth library will continue its treasured tradition of literacy and justice for all with mr larson and the lake worth playhouse is about to embark on one heck of a ride under the the leadership of miss cindy so thank you all very very much very very much and the lake worth playhouse is one of the gems of the city and they're very fortunate to have miss cindy miss fisher followed by mr um chapman thought ramsey was going to go again okay i'm sorry she'll go later she's to wait her turn

Peggy Fisher, 508 North A Street. On a different topic, Monday is Labor Day. And I, as a resident and a homeowner in Lake Worth Beach, would like to take this time to thank the almost 400 employees here in the city of Lake Worth for everything they do to keep our city running, Again, I'm not saying everything is perfect, but I'm saying we have a great crew of people who are here, who will listen and who strive to do everything they can from the top with Mr. Perry down to whoever's on the bottom. And I don't think there's really anybody on the bottom. I think it's just a big team. I'd also like to take the opportunity to thank our first responders at Palm Beach Fire Rescue Stations 91 and 93 and PBSO District 14 for everything they do for our city. they work hard to serve all the residents here and the businesses in our city providing the services that we need and in any instance whether it's a fire whether it's a health issue madam mayor i know you certainly have a a place in your heart for them as i think other people do throughout the city and i just would like as one person to come up here and thank everybody who works so hard for our city at this time thank you thank you

And along those lines, along those same lines, I'm gonna just put in my fellow commissioners and the vice mayor's mind. I would like to have us perhaps join together and sponsor like ice cream social. We need to show our staff our appreciation. And so I'm gonna ask us to sort of chip in with our discretionary funds to have either ice cream social or lunch like we do for the entire staff to show our appreciation. So that's not right now, but just put it in your brains. I'll be talking to you about it later. Thank you. Mr. Chapman.

mr chapman there you go hi there tyler chapman 12 24 16th avenue north um thank you for the opportunity to speak to you guys um it's kind of on the same vein that we spoke before Over and over again in this town, which has been a pretty liberal progressive working class town for a very long time, we've seen that as opportunities to align yourselves with fascism come forward, you go ahead and you align yourself with fascism. I have a good example here. Our state put forward rules to make it harder to be homeless. and instead of this city working to shortstop that process and to help our houses community you've unleashed pbso against them you've passed ordinances to make it harder to be homeless in this town and i have a good example of how that spreads out and hurts other community members You have to excuse me. I get very worked up about this. I spend a lot of time around those community members who are affected the most by this. I was at Bryant Park. And, you know, you think about spending time in the park. Nice gentleman out on a blanket, laying down, enjoying the park. He had worked 5 a.m. to 3 p.m. that day. And as he's laying there in the park, he is surrounded by three PBSO officers. because sleeping in our parks is against the law. And so it's hard to tell if somebody's sleeping from a distance if they're just lying down until you approach them. Do we need people armed approaching people laying down in our parks, enjoying the park? I don't think we do. And I know you guys want park rangers to help affect that change without needing to use PBSO. Interesting choice. I would say maybe nobody needs to be approaching people just simply laying down on a blanket in the park. But for some reason, that's a priority of yours. And you've decided to align yourselves with that type of police state overreach. That's a choice you made. And you can say it's not fascism. You can scoff when I say fascism, as you just did, like, you know, on camera. But I think it's impactful that those are the choices you make. Specifically, Betty Resch, a very nice liberal woman, cares about her community. Why she chooses to align herself that way, I don't know. There are other people on this dais who are quite public about their interest in aligning that way. You though, Betty, I don't know. It's galling. And it's sad because I campaigned for you when you first ran to see that you've turned that way. You know, there are other examples. They might seem smaller, less interesting to people here. Meaningful to me when Tesla was a sponsor for our sunsets on the Ave after their CEO did a zig hail. at a very big event and it went national news. And then the city of Lake Worth is participating in reputational repair for a company like Tesla that seemed inappropriate and aligning themselves with fascism. And also on your rules, it says that you'll have a timer here for people to see their time. That timer is in your rules, but it's not here.

So I'm a timer and your time is up, sir. It says there will be one to check your rules.

You know, to contact me, Mr. Chapman, Mr. Chapman, you know, to contact me, please give me the date that that happened at the park.

You can contact me.

Okay. Okay. Ms. McLeod.

Point of order. Each person is supposed to have one chance to speak and we just cut off. We cut off a gentleman who had two topics. He was on a second topics and we literally just cut him off. I don't think that's very fair.

I don't know what you're talking about.

The last speaker started with one topic, moved on to the second topic, and was cut off for his three minutes. Now we have somebody coming.

It's a different question. Mr. Segrich, with all due respect, she has two cards. One is about public participation. One is about the consent agenda. So they're two separate ones.

So just to be clear, in the future, people can submit as many cards as they want?

Oh, Mr. Segrich, it'll work out.

i'm just asking our attorney for her clarity on this because it's come up it's people have asked can they can they submit multiple cards and we've told them different issues miss ramsey go ahead the attorney wants to speak ma'am

mayor has a discussion she's running a meeting within the rules and if the commission believes she's uh violating that discretion and uh choices to make a motion to overrule her other than that she pretty much gets to uh control the chair and this is so separate completely so ms mcleod go ahead the topic i'm speaking on is under the consent agenda

item on the agenda, and I am speaking on item A, topic the bill of sale. For clarification, Mr. Segrich. I'm starting now, Melissa, for time. the backup document oh sorry ramson mcleod 24 south c street in the backup documentation provided by staff the background and justification section the last sentence states the attached bill of sale gives ownership of the newly constructed 10 inch and six inch water main lines fire hydrant assembly automatic flushing assembly and all the installed valves and connections to serve and located within four five two two south congress avenue palm springs florida three three four six one And that's it. It never states who is getting ownership of the assembly. That is only listed in the actual bill of sales. So here's another example of staff compiling all their backup documentation. But unfortunately, I feel they're so involved in the transaction that they don't have the ability to step back and say, OK, if I didn't know anything about this, what does my backup documentation and statement say? And in this instance, I had to go through a couple different documents to actually read it in the bail of sale to show that the city of Lake Worth is taking ownership of this newly assembled water lines. So I think it's just a minor point. But Mr. Perry, perhaps the supervisor or someone over, we have our employees working so hard on so many different things. Just another pair of eyes to look at it, kind of tweaks it up a little bit. And it's a compliment to what the hard work and dedication that staff members already provide for you. Thank you.

Thank you. Okay, approval of minutes. Do I have a motion? Motion to approve the minutes. Do I have a second? Second. All in favor? Second by Mr. Segrich. All in favor? Aye. Consent agenda. Do I have a motion?

Motion to approve.

Do I have a second? Second. By Ms. May. All in favor? Aye. Okay, ordinance number 2026-12, first reading. This is our quasi-judicial hearing. I need my script.

John Potter, or to read the title, please, please read the ordinance by time you work in December 2026 as well, first reading is a mixed user plan development residential only major cycling condition use permit. John Potter, sustainable bonus incentive program and affordable workforce, having for the project commonly referred to as a physical on six.

that's it.

Don't you have a lot more journey.

um mr city attorney you should have a copy of the script and it has the full title in it yes okay sorry about that i was reading that start again all right ordinance number 2026 stands follow with an ordinance of the city commission of the city of lake brook beach florida amending the official zoning map by approving the creation of a mixed third and planned development district located at 610 615 617 621 622 625 626 629 630 and 702 south 8th street to construct two multi-family buildings containing a total of 193 dwelling units as more particularly described and exhibited any located within the mixed use dixie highway and uth zoning district the future land use destination of mixed use east mue so that the specific development standards set forth in exhibit b and conditions of approval set forth in exhibit c proving a conditional use permit removing a high density and intensity bonus incentive through the city's sustainable bonus incentive program and affordable workforce housing program improving a major site plan for the development of a residential plan development

flexibility conflicts and effective dates thank you this this item is for first reading of ordinance 26 2026-12 regarding an amendment to the city's official zoning map to create a mixed-use urban plan development district mr city attorney do you have your script i could give it to you do you have it do you have the script

sorry okay i mean the city attorney says that is a positive hearing the hearing must be fair in three respects form substance and appearance all commission members must disclose if they have or reasonably believe to have a a demonstrated bias or prejudice for or against any party in the hearing be a direct or indirect monetary interest in the outcome of the hearing see a prejudgment of the issues prior to hearing the facts on the record or D, any ex parte communication or personal investigations, including conversation with city staff. And then if your answer to any of these is yes, please also state whether based on your response, are you still able to serve as an impartial hearing officer and make your decision based on the facts in the record? Okay, we'll start with District 1.

you're two yeah I forgot okay we'll move to District two um I have had a brief ex parte communication with one of the attorneys representing and it does not interfere with my ability to make a whatever that language was an objective evaluation yes and I have no monetary interest one way or the

okay district three thank you i have no bias no prejudgment no monetary interest and i've had an ex parte discussion with one of the attorneys from the petitioner okay mr saybridge

I've had conversations with staff and one of the parties many, many months ago when they were applying for funding. Since that, I have had no communication or no ex parte communication. I do believe we had a small discussion of this matter at a previous meeting. Some people asked some questions and answers. None of that gives me any bias to being impartial in this meeting.

Great. Thank you. I have had a few conversations. I've had a few conversations about trees. with the developers and the silver and the silver black has been very very helpful um uh we've talked about elevators we've talked about different issues about the development I completely can um I'm unbiased and I'm interested to hear what they have to say so it is my understanding that there are no affected parties all those giving testimony please raise your right hand and be sworn in by the clerk Yes, I'm here.

Do you swear or affirm that in this proceeding you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? If so, say yes.

Yes. They all said yes.

And as you testify, please state your name and address for the record. And if you are representing a party, please also state who you represent.

They're all nodding in agreement. Thank you, ma'am. Under the quasi-judicial rules, we will hear from the city first. then the appellant, the applicant. There are no affected parties. We will hold questions until after the presentation, so take notes as they speak. When called, please state your name and the name and address of the property you're speaking on behalf of. So, city staff, please give our department presentation. You're on, Mr. Lee.

I'm going to turn it over to our newly anointed principal planner, Lauren Bruce.

Thank you, Director Waters.

You need to speak while you get started. You need to speak right into the microphone. You need to speak loudly and clearly because everyone wants to hear what you have to say. And just speak your name again, your last name again.

Lauren Pruss, Principal Planner with the Preservation Planning and Historic Preservation Division of Community Sustainability. Thank you, Madam Mayor and Commissioners. Let's see if I can get this to work.

seems to be frozen. Yes.

Hey, good evening, everybody. This is PZB project number 2601-00001 and consideration of ordinance 2026-12. The request was already read into the record. So I won't belabor this slide, but there are several requests by the applicant and owner of the property pinnacle on six. And the project name is also the pinnacle on six. They are requesting approval of a mixed use urban plan development, which is a residential proposal only to construct two buildings, one five stories in height and another four stories in height and with 92 dwelling units. I think the city attorney stated 192, it's only 92. They are requesting a major site plan to construct a residential development with more than 7,500 square feet, also a conditional use to establish a multifamily residential use greater than 7,500 square feet. They're requesting sustainable bonus program incentives for additional density, intensity, and height. They are proposing participation in the affordable workforce housing program, which grants them additional density and intensity, which is floor area above what is permitted in the mixed use 60 highway zone, utilizing five CRA bonus units, along with a 25% parking reduction, partial reduction. they are requesting two waivers of the land development regulations one related to minimum parking dimensions and another related to a five foot required landscape strip adjacent to an alley And the applicant is also seeking a waiver of the required 50% sustainable bonus incentive payment of $273,600, which is required by resolution number 23-2021. So this is just some detailed information with the addresses and the parcel ID numbers for the property. The site is a total of 2.01 acres across three assemblages. The property is located south of Sixth Avenue South, north of Seventh, well, at the intersection of Seventh Avenue South and South H Street and west of Dixie Highway. uh the existing land use is a mix of residential uses both single family and multi-family the current future land use designation is mixed use ease there is no proposed change to that and the current zoning district is mixed use Dixie Highway Before you hear us, the site plan showing two buildings on the two larger pieces of property. Building A is on the west side of H Street, south of 6th Avenue South, and is proposed to have 57 units and approximately 62,000 square feet of floor area in five stories. They're proposing 61 on-site parking spaces and 32 indoor bicycle storage spaces, which actually counts towards four parking spaces. And the building will have a fitness room, an activity game room, business center, and a covered open air gathering space. Building B is proposed to have 35 units and just under 35,000 square feet. And they are proposing this building to be four stories with 39 onsite parking spaces and four exterior bike spaces. um parcel C is a 6750 square feet open space which originally as proposed uh had an art sculpture a 1200 square foot dog park and three parking spaces the applicant is proposing an alternative to that which I'll allow them to present later following my presentation In total, there are 109 required parking spaces with the 25% workforce housing reduction, and they are providing 128 in total, 76 standard 20 compact spaces, eight alternate bicycle spaces, 788 spaces and 17 on street spaces. The two plan development waivers are related to the dimension of the parking stalls to reduce the required depth by two feet. And this condition occurs on both parcel A and parcel B. And then the applicant has utilized the existing alleyways for access to the property and needs in order to provide a 20 foot two way movement. At those locations, they are seeking a reduction of the required five foot landscape buffer from an alley. And this happens also on parcel C, where they are also showing an access point to the city's electrical substation. just a landscape plan. And the most significant topic that came up at the planning and zoning board was the disposition of tree number 105, which is a 78 inch banyan that was originally determined to be in 50% fair condition. And during the Planning and Zoning Board hearing, several residents spoke in support of relocation of the tree, and the Planning and Zoning Board recommended that the City Commission very closely review the possibility of preserving the tree or relocating the tree, but noted that the inability to save the tree should not preclude approval of the project due to the significant need for affordable housing. so the city and the applicant both separately obtained the services of a certified arborist and they both observed similar um structural defects in the condition of the tree um the suitability for preservation and relocation was determined to be poor and relocation is not recommended They indicated that trees with structural defects are not suitable for preservation because they represent an ongoing liability due to the potential for failure of limbs on the tree to cause injury and damage to the surrounding property. given that however the applicant has still proposed um in exchange for is a measure of goodwill to pay sixty thousand dollars to the city's tree restoration fund um to you know mitigate the loss of the tree and so there's a couple I later will go over two alternative conditions for to cover that but could possibly uh also incorporate the sustainable bonus reduction in consideration of that so just another image of the landscape plans This is the elevation for building A, the north elevation. At the northwest corner, that elevation features a prominent rounded corner where there will be a public art mural, as well as some mosaic art. So that's just showing you what the location of the artwork. And these are just quickly the renderings. This is the art part. The applicant has proposed three different color palettes, seeking input on any preferences that the commission may have. This is the original color palette that was proposed. Here they use a darker brown in place of the more orange tone presented previously. And in the third, they use the darker brown and the blue is also muted a little bit here. Through the affordable workforce housing program, the city supports the comprehensive plan policy 3.1.2.2, which states that the city shall support increased densities and or a decrease of living area requirements for innovative designs of up to 15% in order to promote affordable housing projects. so the applicant is not proposing to modify the unit sizes whatsoever they will be the standard size unit one bedrooms will be 694 square feet to 832 square feet and two bedroom units are proposed with 946 square feet They are seeking the density bonus, the 15% density bonus, as well as the CRA platted lot bonus of five CRA lots and the 25% parking reduction incentive, of which they're only partially requesting a reduction. They could have only provided 109, but they're providing 128 spaces. All 92 units will be 100% affordable workforce housing. And according to the city's affordable workforce housing program, um, five of the CRA platted lots will have, the five units that are attributed to the CRA platted lot bonus will have to adhere to the city's more strict affordable housing requirements. And the sustainable bonus requires 2.26 of their units to also follow the city's more strict affordable housing ordinance. And then 100% of the 15% density bonus um will also have to adhere for 11.3 units and so a total of 19 dwelling units must comply with the city's affordable workforce housing program um but again 100 of the units will be income restricted to uh within uh certain guidelines based on the applicant's funding and they can go over that in greater detail when they make their presentation. The Sustainable Bonus Incentive Program supports policy 1.2.3.4 of the Comprehensive Plan, which permits a 25% bonus on density, floor area, and height over the baseline as outlined in the Comp Plan. The applicant is seeking additional height above the 30 feet base zoning district, which is proposed at 55.8 feet for building A and 44.125 feet for building B, that should read, sorry. They are permitted to request up to 56.25 feet with five stories. They are requesting additional density about the 30 units per acre of 45.67 units per acre, which gives them 32 bonus units above the baseline number of units permitted in the zone. And they are seeking a floor area ratio of 1.1 above the 0.9 permitted. The sustainable bonus incentive program requires that a total of $547,200 be provided in sustainability features as identified in the city code. 50% is required to be paid to the city under that resolution that I previously mentioned. That amount is $273,600. And according to the code, because they're providing far greater than the amount of affordable housing that is provided within the code, they're 100% affordable. They argue that the 92 affordable units can fully satisfy their $547,200 sustainable bonus incentive. They will also construct the project in accordance with the National Green Building Standards and are also providing public amenities in the form of public art and open space, which could count towards the qualifying features, but they have not valued that because the affordable housing component covered the baseline amount. they are requesting that the 273 600 payment be waived in its entirety or that they pay six the sixty thousand dollars to the tree canopy restoration fund and that satisfy their sustainable bonus payment this is just a breakdown of how the fee was calculated and the subject request staff has found is consistent as conditioned with the comprehensive plan the strategic plan the major thoroughfare design standards and the land development regulations uh we find that the project is in harmony with the land development regulations and protection of public interests and it meets the criteria for planned development districts the quality qualitative development standards community appearance criteria the standards for conditional uses and the reviewing decision criteria for the sustainable bonus program and the affordable workforce housing program and relocation of the banyan tree prior to any final decision. And Subsequent to the Planning and Zoning Board recommendation, the tree matter was further discussed. So here are two potential modified conditions for approval related to the tree. Should the 100% sustainability bonus waiver be approved, Pinnacle would pay the city $60,000 to be placed in the tree canopy canopy restoration fund or alternatively pinnacle has agreed to pay sixty thousand dollars of the sustainable bonus to the city and request the remaining amount to be waived as compensation or as as compensation for the should read that they're offering sixty thousand to compensate for the removal of the tree And then they asked that we modify the condition related to the national green building standards just relative to timing and the actual level of certification. Because it does sometimes take some time to get those certifications. as well as they don't actually have any control over what certification they are awarded, they can they can strive to achieve a certain level and not yet actually be awarded that level. And so long as they meet general certification standards, staff is comfortable with that with that condition as modified. So potential motion here. And then there are a number of conditions that I'm not going to read into the record. They're in your ordinance that was distributed. And I am available for any questions. And the applicant also has a presentation.

Thank you very much. Thank you. And now it's time for the applicant to make the presentation.

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As you all come up and speak, please just introduce yourself and your role in this development process.

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good evening mayor vice mayor commissioners my name is tim wheat i am a developer and partner at pinnacle and we are the developer of pinnacle on sixth we're very excited to be here tonight to talk about this development we think it's an exciting step forward for our company to have the great opportunity to work here in the city of lake worth beach and build another one of our high quality communities we'll try to be fairly brief. We can always back up during questions and answers to any particular slides or topics you want us to cover. With me tonight, I have Bradley Miller and Rob Dinsmore from Urban Design Studios. Bradley's going to follow up after me. Neil Schiller, our attorney, is here tonight. Jeff Tropeter with Civil Design, Lake Worth Beach resident, our civil engineer, and Federico De La Cruz with LH Architects, who's our architectural firm. First, a little bit about Pinnacle. We were founded in 1997. I've been a partner in the company since 2002, developing all of our communities north of Miami-Dade County. We're based in Miami. I'm based up here in Palm Beach County, and I'm a lifelong Palm Beach County resident. We've developed nearly 11,000 units of primarily affordable multifamily housing all throughout Florida, including Texas and Mississippi. We're long-term holders of our assets that we build, and we have a long track record of working with partners and stakeholders in the nonprofit and public sector. We foster collaboration in our communities, and we try to come up with unique strategies and involve what is our signature thing that we started doing 25 years ago, which is incorporating art in public places into our communities. A quick snapshot of some of our recent or longstanding developments that are nearby. Our Berkeley Landing development, top right in Riviera Beach, won the Florida Redevelopment Association Award for Top Major Affordable Housing Community in 1995. Pinnacle Palms, we've owned that for 25 years. It's in West Palm Beach, just off Executive Center Drive. If you're headed southbound to the outlet mall at Palm Beach Lakes, you can't miss it. And then Pinnacle 441, which is lower right, which won the Structures Award in 2004 for the best new affordable community in South Florida, two phases. 213 units the last one is pinnacle at tarpon river in downtown fort lauderdale but we own seven we've owned or developed 70 units all throughout florida and the southeast A little bit of highlights about Berkeley Landing. If you're interested in knowing more, we can come back to it. I know you've got a long agenda. I'm not gonna belabor the issues. So to talk about Pinnacle on Six before I hand it over to Bradley, and we're not gonna, again, try not to duplicate Lauren's excellent presentation. As she said, all 92 units are affordable at differing income tiers. We've merged together an awarded tax credits from the Florida Housing Finance Corporation, which this commission graciously helped us leverage with a low interest loan. We were successful, invited into credit underwriting in February of this year. And with that, we were also able to leverage a loan, a low interest loan from the county's housing bond program, which will be subordinate financing behind a first mortgage. So all of those sources allow us to build a high quality development while keeping it affordable. So we have units at differing income tiers, one and two bedroom units at 30%, 60 and 70% of the area median income. 15% of the units at 30% of the median income, and then a roughly 50-50 blend of the remaining units at 60 and 70%. So that gives you a little bit of information about the rents. So I'm going to turn it over to Bradley. I'll come back. There's some more slides about some things that were proffered that Lauren touched on, and also a little bit more about the affordability and the path forward. So Bradley, I'll hand it over to you.

Bradley Miller with Urban Design Studio. I'm the land planner for the project and have worked diligently with your excellent staff on getting to this point. Larry Dugan- lauren has done a great presentation these and i'll go through these quickly because there, there is some duplications. Larry Dugan- This is just really going through what the request actually does we've got the total of 92 units split between the two buildings. um major site plan conditional use a sustainable bonus program and the affordable workforce housing program we're applying the waivers i will talk about a little little differently than how the staff report does uh to give the more the the practical component to them um and uh we're uh pleased to have staff support as well as the planning and zoning support uh at this point So this is a rendered version of the site plan. It is three different parcels that are assembled properties on both sides of South H Street. And in A, we've got 57 units there. It's five stories. We have 65 spaces on Parcel A. Access to Parcel A is a couple of different spots. One is off of Seventh Avenue where there's the pink double arrow. And then I show it as secondary, but who knows what the traffic flows might be. But there's a yellow arrow at the top left, which goes straight out to Sixth Avenue. We widened that portion of the alley to get 20 feet that accommodates fire, trash trucks, larger trucks to be able to get through there. That was part of the design challenge that we had was, how do you get trucks like that into these smaller properties, get them turned around and get them out? So that's really where that came from. And one of the waivers corresponds with that. uh parcel b we've got 36 units and a four-story building and we have 42 parking spaces uh on that property um these aren't counting the on-street parking spaces and some of the other alternative means of bicycles etc so these are actual parking spaces on on both those properties and then we have the uh the um the open space parcel that's parcel c that's on the southeast corner seventh back to b again the access points where there's one off of south 8th street and then there's uh the yellow one down These again are the architectural elevations. Lauren had those in it, so I'll jump through those quickly, but just part of the record. Floor plans as well. If we could all read those, none of us would have to go by our readers at Walgreens that are all over the place. This slide is actually showing some of the typical amenities that Pinnacle puts into their projects for the units themselves with the kitchen space, living space. They're just top-notch. Urban Design has done several projects with Pinnacle and one of our favorite clients that I might say in all the presentations, but. Other amenities, common amenities for the residents here, there's lobby space, open spaces for gathering. There's also a gym. The two that are in the bottom left-hand side are actually photographs of an open air area that's been used in one of their other projects. They've found that to be a great space for like the teenage community to go there. and uh they they can gather there as part of uh the project um they can play games uh now that meta has cut them off of their using their uh their time that they can maybe uh talk to each other or something like this something crazy like that the uh the renderings here actually I I feel give a much better appearance this is building a uh looking from Sixth Avenue down uh South H and then uh this is looking to the Southwest as well kind of go around the building here and then this is building B that's looking north and to the northeast um this one especially in the bottom left shows the uh the mural uh and the mosaic pieces uh along the frontage of sixth avenue i think that'll be a very attractive feature as you're coming eastbound on on sixth avenue south uh that's gonna it'll be right in your face uh and uh it's gonna be a welcome welcome to the south end of lake worth beach yeah The northeast is the open space of Parcel C, as it was originally designed with some artwork, with some conversation about the tree that's kind of shifted here. And I'll touch on that in a moment. These are just interesting aerial photographs. It's amazing what technology can do. You can actually take the building and plug it right in. So this is drone shots from the various angles as you go around the project. The waivers. Let me talk about the waivers. This first one is for the parking spaces. It's really not a shortening of the parking stall from 18 feet to 16. What we're doing is you can see the spacers, the wheel stop, and then the curb line, and then the landscape. there's so what we're proposing to do is just actually add landscape so the wheel stop and the overhang of the car overhangs grass dairy instead the parking space is still 18 feet deep it's just instead of your wheels hitting a wheel stop and then you've got pavement in front of that for the overhang we're going to have grass space parking space still in the depth complies with the code at 18 feet it's really just the what's under that overhang space that we think it adds for pervious area for more green space in the project and uh Pinnacles have some issues with all of us I'm sure have tripped over a wheel stop one time or another so there's a liability component to it as well part of our request The second one is where we have widened the alleys. There's the three spots. So by code, you're supposed to have an alley and then a five foot buffer. So we widened the 10 foot alley to 20 feet, which takes away the space for that five foot landscape. There's still landscape next to the pavement of the widened alleys. so for parcel a it's there in the northwest where it's widened and then there's landscape still between the the pavement and the building uh same that holds true on the southeast side of parcel b and also for parcel c uh to point out something with parcel c the uh the city's electrical substation is just to the south we worked with uh your folks there from that department and actually redesigned that parcel to be able to maintain that the access actually comes basically through the eastern part of the property with a gate so it was uh it was one of those hello moments and and we uh we got it to work out so that's our second waiver is is is technically i get it uh but we're providing this improvement for access and circulation and we still have that landscape area adjacent to the buildings that that gives us separation between the pavement uh and the building itself the uh the credit do you want to touch on those you want me to go through now okay so for the sustainable bonus uh program um uh Lauren did a nice job of presenting that in her presentation. But what we're asking for is 100% credit for it. In the code, it gives these criteria of things that you can apply to that amount. Now, the first jump is, yeah, we're providing 90 to 100% affordable units, but it's actually a lot more than that. In the code itself, it says if you're designing to a national green organization, which we are, then right there, you're actually allowed the 100% credit for that unit. period. Then as you continue down the bullet points, we're providing the passive open space of parcel C, which is gonna be community available. The redevelopment itself has already commenced with the demolition and taking out some blighted areas and homes that are there. that are going and then being replaced with a pretty spectacular building from our biased side. Architecturally, speaking of, I think Lucille and Federico from LH has done an unbelievable job in a design. We have indoor and outdoor bike storage. We've got, as part of the building, there's indoor space where residents can actually lock their bikes up, plus there's outdoor space if somebody comes to visit, so that's available. There's the alternative means of transportation. You got Sixth Avenue South, which is a block away from Dixie Highway, bus routes that lead from one end of the county to the other. You can get to the tri-rail station, et cetera. It's a great location for the alternative modal transportation that we're all talking about these days. accessibility and adaptability of the project is always built into pinnacle energy star appliances is always part of theirs and all of these criteria are are in your code so i wanted to emphasize those that it's it's not just the 100 workforce affordable housing it's a lot more than that And based on that is where we're coming from for the credit to the Sustainable Bonus Program. We did have a neighborhood meeting. In fact, we had two neighborhood meetings, and the tree was the topic. And we'd be happy to go into that, but I think Lauren did a fine job of summing that up, that it's just at a point in its life that it's not suitable to to move or or likely to survive so um so we're working with with that that was there were some other again these are code responsibilities the left side i actually intentionally gave you the un unlegible things so i wouldn't have to go through it But it's all the stuff that the code requires that we go over with the public when we meet with them, which we did. Back to parcel C and the open space parcel. This is our proposed alternative that we've worked not only internally, but also with the folks from Nest in coming up with the concept of making it more of a passive shaded open space area, as opposed to a lot more hardscape and exchange it actually for the arts and the sculpture. We have a lot of art in other components of the building with the mural and the mosaics. In fact, that actually came up as a comment of one of your planning and zoning board members of a preference of seeing a little treed pocket area within the city as opposed to more hardscape and sculpture. um and in this design uh back to the electrical substation we're still providing that still providing some parking spaces there for people to to pull into and um and enjoy the space um So that sums it up for me. I think Tim has some final closing, close the door comments. Back to him.

Thanks, Bradley. Just very quickly. One is that, yes, I have a bias against wheel stops. So we designed to where you park against use the curb as a wheel stop and the overhang more landscape area. Lauren covered our profit. We respectfully request that the commission, which is in its authority, consider 100% sustainability bonus waiver. If you do, we would then in turn either pay 60,000 as the sustainable bonus or pay at the time a building permit issuance $60,000 to the tree canopy restoration fund. We enjoyed our conversations and engagement with the folks in NEST. We understand the significance of the, the the feelings of the significance of that tree it is beautiful but unfortunately it can't be saved um but we wanted to do something that was responsive so thus the proposed alternate redesign of track c i know another thing that came up in our uh community meeting and planning the zoning board are the number of elevators And I know Mayor Resch, that's an issue for you. We originally planned for one elevator per building because these are mid-rise four and five story buildings respectively. We're willing to proffer tonight that we would install two elevators in the five story building. And in the four-story building, which is only one story taller than the typical walk-up garden apartment building, we have all of our accessible units located on the ground floor. That would leave nine units on the fourth floor, which would have to walk down three flights of stairs to exit in the event of a situation where the sole elevator failed. But it's always been our plan all along, as was mentioned, and it was a slide in Bradley's presentation that we will install emergency backup generators at each building, which will power common areas and the elevators. It allows the residents to cool off and you know, relax and charge their phones, let their family know they're okay after a storm. So I just wanted to cover those proffers and we're going to thank you for your time tonight and very excited to be here and excited to answer any questions you have.

Thank you very much. Okay. Do any of the members of the Commission have any questions? Silly question. Mr. No, we're fine.

Mr. Secretary.

So I have a question for staff about the tire stops. Is it allowable to have a parking lot for our code without the curb stops? Is what they're proposing allowable via our code?

J. that's why the William waters to you saying to record that's why they're asking for the waiver will stops are required, it is an area in the code that. J. is on our list to look at it does make sense that we have the cars could hang over on escape area.

OK. So we've required that a lot of people, but I do like the proposal that they have of having it. I'd rather see landscapes than the concrete there. Question on the sustainable bonus monies that the city gathers. Could those sustainable bonus monies be used to further a program like the circuit?

John Potter, mobility is an item that's in the list of criteria that are money can be spent on the decision is really up to you it's more intended for infrastructure, but I believe city. John Potter, Attorney lenihan and I spoke three projects ago that it would appear that sustainable bonus money could go to help further and self circuit or a similar mobility function or service in the city.

Okay um and then I read through the the tree reports and so on, if let's say a regular old resident had that tree on their their yard in its current state would it qualify for them to get a permit to remove it without penalty.

Yes.

OK. So basically, in its condition, it's not salvageable. And so there really wouldn't be a ordinance-based or statutory-based penalty for removal of that tree, even though it's a very large tree. And then just for clarity for Pinnacle, in regards to the elevators, were you saying that you have already agreed to put a second elevator or that's something you would agree to? And then if that is the case, how impactful is that on your project budget? Because I know you guys are pretty far along.

it's a proffer we're making tonight based on dialogue discussions that we've heard so we're prepared to do it we had a in the the five-story building we had a hall closet adjoining the elevator that we're going to use for storage we reworked our design a little bit we can accommodate it okay um okay those are my questions thank you i'll just keep going down the road miss mink

All right, thank you. Okay, so my question is twofold. Well, the first one, I don't know who I'm asking to. I guess Tim. Section C was originally stated it was a dog park and then it switched to the passive park. Is it fenced in?

We were not intending it to be fenced in because it was supposed to be available to the public. either scenario okay yes okay so neither no none of the situation would be yeah we were yeah that you could unleash your dog in the original iteration we had a small area that was intended to be fenced in actually one of the planning and zoning board members pointed out that might not be an ideal condition but in the further conversations with nest and thinking about this being more of a passive sort of a mini park we kind of we changed the design to be a dog walk area so we put we showed in that concept two dog way stations and three benches so people could take their dogs and walk them there but they would be leashed which i think is a better overall strategy friendly

yes okay um our then my other question is I want to go back to parking I like the idea of the um the over the over the grass parking that's a good idea but my question is regarding I know you guys are on site to um to manage the property which I think is very important when if I were to run a two bedroom would I get um to have two cars

That's an excellent question. We're going to encourage everyone that this is the type of urban infill type development where really only one car is likely going to be approved. Your second car, if you have a second car, it's going to be at risk. We can't guarantee parking there.

So how are you going to monitor the 17 on street parking?

We're going to have to get that on street parking. That's I can't give you a definitive answer on how we would monitor the use of off. You're talking about off street park.

Proposal that you're counting 17 spaces. That's correct.

Yeah. Per the code. Yes.

So I was wondering how how would you let's say you had all of your all of your units each had one car.

We're probably going to have to go with some kind of registration or sticker system to identify resident parking.

And will there be guest parking?

We are not required necessarily to identify guest parking, but we'll probably have some future resident and guest parking at each of the buildings. But we want to make sure that we're preserving on site that each resident that has a car can park off street.

right so we want to strike a balance there yeah the parking your parking spots yes 17 on the street you're not counting those as that's my let's go no we're not counting those as resident parking though okay i didn't understand yeah okay sorry of the resident parking conglomerate um okay are you counting the two or three spots on the c unit that's resident parking

No, I consider those ancillary to the parcel city.

No, that's good. That's good.

That's why I had the question. I'm answering these questions right, aren't I?

Okay. But, you know, these are just some issues we've come across with other buildings. So I have to ask.

Appreciate that.

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Okay. We talked about the elevator. Yes. Okay. and i think those are my oh the dolphins colors i look at his howard johnson's poems i mean i'm a lifelong bills fan i don't know if i can improve dolphins colors no i'm just kidding those are fine you you have the clear advantage as a bills fan building we'll just take the game lowly dolphins yes

Well, but by the way, there won't be any obstructed views at Pinnacle on 6, like there is at Hyman.

Well done. Yeah, and one better.

That'll be the only win a Dolphin fan gets this year.

And it's the same cost as a traditional game, too. All right, thanks.

Thank you, Mr. McVoy.

You were scrolling through the pictures. It's one of the whole building ones. other direction uh yeah maybe the other that well that one would do okay and this is just for me I'm very confused if that looks to me like the gridiron building in New York where it's got a narrow angle um I can't find that in the plan view so I assume it's just a curiosity of the uh of the angle of the picture it's an optical it's an optical illusion it's a it's a right angle yeah I know I know though yeah I know the building you're talking about it's the not the grid it's the um flat iron building on 14th street after many years um so i i am not a fan of the whatever those block things for the cars either um a you stumble over them b they fall apart and see they tear the bottom stuff off of my car um done that quite regularly because i have a low piece that sits low um will whatever you're overhanging the front of the car be low enough that it won't do that i i sort of assume that's the case but i thought i'd ask

that there will be a concrete curb at the edge of the landscape to keep it in and then the lands they'll just be grassed area for the overhang so it's uh the the the curbing is usually six inches high which is maybe even a little higher than those curb stops yeah you might go a little lower same height as as the wheel stops so it's going to scrape my car too well be careful if you go in and out several times it'll lower it yeah i just pulled it off uh i think i'm okay it took me a while to figure out where the alley the lack of the five feet was but i think that works out all right um

the one thing that i thought of when you mentioned that some of your parking i don't know if you actually used it to meet the requirement but the bike thing which i'm a big bike fan so i'm generally happy with that but looking at the location and knowing that area somewhat i would that most people are going to want to go, if they're biking, north. They're going to want to go to the Publix that's north. They're going to want to go to downtown that's north. And they're really a you got to cross sixth avenue and that intersection is not a fun intersection to do on a bike and sixth avenue the whole of six is not fun to go across i i don't know that i have anything specific but if there was some way to work with the city and and i guess it would have to be either the county or the state whoever owns sixth avenue um to help with crossing so that realistically somebody can get across there. Usually the walk times on the pedestrian lights are not for a reasonable, you know, they might be okay for cross country runners, but not so valuable for regular people. And certainly not for somebody with a tricycle, for instance, or some bicycles. So if there was some way to maybe keep in the back of your mind to work to make that accessible, that would be great.

Commissioner, as part of the adopted mobility plan, which is also a safety plan, there are a whole series of proposed projects for safety and for pedestrians and bicyclists for 6th Avenue, 10th Avenue, Lake Worth Road, Lake Lucerne, and possibly Dixie Highway. So as that program moves along and is adopted, there will be a time for you to set up priorities for those streets, and the county would prefer us to prioritize county roadways first.

And six is a county, is it not? Yeah. Well, keep that in mind. That will help with it.

To answer your question on the numbers, the numbers that I presented are actually car spaces. So it's above and beyond that, that there's bicycles and...

uh and i like the idea that some of them are interiors so people can keep their bikes locked up and not have to haul them up to the balcony or whatever so thank you for that um i'm oh and i did see in one of the drawings an original calder sculpture which um i thought that was kind of nice um um but uh

called her ask at least uh but i understand that won't be there because we're going to the vegetation more the trees which there will be art yeah the the mural seems like that'll be nice and just just a note we have an art curator at our company that will do a call for artists and we'll focus on trying to find someone local to do the mosaic and the five-story uh mural

yeah we got a guy we got a guy thank you i have a few um you've answered a lot of questions thank you that everybody for asking the questions um there are some there are some palm trees in the little gate in that little park i'm looking at my friend miss silverblood they can stay or you're not going to cut them down you're either going to remove them or integrate them into the plan Either one? Both. Okay. I like them, even though nobody likes them. And in terms of the parking, we've talked about this. I'm very concerned about the parking, because the mid has just been a disaster. So we talked a little bit about stickers, because it's up to the administrators of the place to regulate the parking. You can't just say, here's our place. So I would, I think that should almost be a condition because otherwise it's going to be sort of the same nightmare. Wait, you're okay with that?

Okay.

I hear the lawyer saying it's okay. We always listen to the lawyer. I'm a little, I do have a concern and thank you for the two elevators. I know I browbeat you a little bit about that and I very much appreciate you doing that. And the generators for the elevators, I think, are a wonderful idea. And if there's, God forbid, any place that there's electricity out, people have a place to cool off. Thank you. That's very thoughtful. And the fact that you have somebody living on site. Now, I suggested that that person live on the fourth floor. So if the elevator breaks, they're the ones that have to live with that. if i encourage them to get it fixed probably it's a better view um okay i i'm a little concerned the one concern i do have we talked a little bit about this isn't sustaining you're asking for 100 of sustainability um i have a little problem with that i know that you're doing a wonderful job but i also do think that the city needs all the help that we can get so i'm certainly willing to compromise and you know no one's really commented about that And if I'm the only one, then fine, I'll let it go. But I just think that, you know, the $60,000 for the tree is great. Thank you. But I would like to see us get a little bit of that sustainable sustainability money. So that's again, I'll open that up. If nobody else cares, I'm OK. But I think it should be discussed a little bit. I think that's all I have. Yeah, Mr. Segrich had his light back on, and then Mr. McVoy, and then we're going to go to public comments.

uh thank you um can you talk a little bit about the drainage system there because the the area um of federal and six and also that area of six there's been um i mean traditionally there's a lot of flooding in in there so we've had some developments come in and they've been put in with french drains which satisfy um the the requirement yet water shoots two feet out of them when we have a heavy rainfall so

can just for the community can you talk a little bit about that yeah i'll introduce you to our engineer jeff trumpeter he's designed a series of exfiltration trenches to handle on-site drainage but he can answer any questions you had he also designed la jolla villages he did the civil engineering work on the other side of the track so he knows this sub market really well oh okay

Yes, good evening. Jeff Trumpeter with Civil Design, also a Lake Worth Beach resident for the last 16 years in College Park. Yes, Jeff Trumpeter with Civil Design and Civil Engineering for this project, a Lake Worth Beach resident for the last 16 years in College Park. So, and Ms. May was both my kids' math teacher. So yes, as Tim mentioned, it is gonna be exfiltration trench system. We're taking all the roof drainage directly from the building underground. We have designed it to exceed code minimum. So we do a pre-development, post-development runoff analysis. So we're keeping all that meeting the current nutrient loading. We've delivered that to staff in a drainage report. They have concurred that we have met, at least met the minimum level of service and we've gone beyond. We're not addressing the off-site roadways. Those are cities and county and state-owned, so we're only doing the on-site.

Good.

Thank you.

Mr. Rippoy?

um oh yes uh madame you had raised the sustainability bonus um and i hear you on the idea of geez you know could we get a little bit for the city i'm also hearing though that that list of bulleted points even just your first two either one of those according to our rules if i'm and i'll look to william to correct me if i'm wrong but either one of those first two would cover our 100 percent um and then there was a whole list of things beyond that Am I correct on that?

Before the adoption of the resolution, you could incorporate the full value of the sustainable bonus requirement on site. The National Building Standard would have gotten you half of it. The provision of all affordable housing got Banyan Square all of its sustainable bonus coverage. They also have amenities that would count toward the sustainable bonus. The art, the value of the art, the value of the extra open space. They are putting in more landscaping than the code requires.

so if prior to that resolution um having been passed by the commission they would have met their sustainable bonus requirement of a hundred percent okay thank you and so i'd put in my two cents although i could be as the mayor talked out of it uh i would put it into the tree fund um the 60 but i'm open to other feelings i got 60. do i hear 75 do i hear 100 80.

And I'm okay with that. We discussed that, but I just, I mean, at least the 60, and I would actually ask for a little bump up on that if you could possibly find it in your hearts to do that. I'll wait for your answer in a minute. I'll give you a minute to think about it.

I guess just to continue the conversation with that and some of the other points, I am in favor of giving them the parking space waiver. I am in favor of giving them the alleyway five-foot waiver. I do like the conversion of Lot C to more of a shade park. I was very happy to see the addition of some large shade trees like the live oaks in there. In terms of the palms versus the shade trees, I would rather the shade trees there than the palms.

They're not going to die.

But I do agree with the mayor on the sustainability bonus. We did move that to 50% for a reason, because they can qualify for up to 50%, and then they would pay the other 50%. However, I was not in favor of requiring them to put elevators in. I was very happy to see that it was a desirable thing. But according to Florida Building Code, they certainly do not have to, and they are not asking for that. I think it is an extraordinarily generous proposal that they're saying that they will put it in the fifth story building. I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth and say, hey, don't do that. Right. But I think that must count for something because they're going to incur substantial costs in that. whatever number we do require on the sustainability bonus. I would like to see that to go into the sustainability program for things like mobility, especially considering the parking in that area. I've spent some time in that area recently. And during the day, there's 18 to 20 vehicles parked on some of the empty lots. um almost no street parking um the madison terrace development that went in there was approved with far less parking than it should have been and when those two buildings are full that is going to spill out onto the streets so i don't think the 17 parking spaces exist at all with that said um pinnacle's design meets our minimum requirements even without those 17 spaces and i was very happy to see that So if they are providing that elevator, I would like to see something small into the sustainability bonus, perhaps do the $60,000 into the sustainability bonus fund. That gives the city more flexibility of how to utilize those funds. And I really do think we need more money for mobility. um for things like circuit and so on the more that we can expand that that's going to help all of our our residents um I would also be perfectly happy of completely waving the the sustainability in light that they are providing that elevator um because that is a huge ask that that's far I would assume far in excess of the 270 000 worth of impact

or close to it um to to go ahead and do that so that's where where i stand on those that's a fair point thank you um but you know okay so mr waters if we if the sixty thousand dollars went into the sustainability fund rather than the tree fund could we use sustainability i mean could i i maybe split it between the sustainability and the tree fund because we do need yeah no i compliment but you have actually authorized sustainable bonus fund money

and I think two fiscal years ago. So the sustainable bonus trust fund money can be used for landscaping because it's a portion of infrastructure. It also can go towards subsidizing circuits. So as things move forward and you are asked, and it hasn't come up this fiscal year yet for 27, where you'd like to spend that money, but we can bring that forward after October 1st and we'll see what the balance is. And then you may identify some projects you wanna move forward with.

Thank you, Ms. May. Are we ready for a motion? No, we have no public comment. Oh, that's right. I forgot about public comment. Thank you for keeping me on my toes. She's like, no, don't, don't do that. May. Okay. I am in agreement with, um, the comments that were just made. Um, I think that the sustainability bonus would be a better place. Bonus fund would be a better place for the $60,000. But I do think that as we've set up here before we are all, um, We all want to make sure that wherever we can add shade trees to the city, we will be doing that anyway. But at least that way, maybe we can do a mobility slash tree. Something project as as we move along. I do think that they have met. many, many of the requirements that we've asked for this project. And I would like to see it go forward. Thank you. And I do want to say that the elevator is a great ad and yeah, that's it. Thank you, Mr. McGaughy.

uh just uh i'm a huge fan of the circuit the only hesitation i would have of putting some of that money into thinking about putting the circuit is that's a one-time one-year expenditure and then it disappears i would rather that be funded out of something else and that the sustainability and slash tree goes to something that's going to last longer like trees please so i'd be i'd be happy with the split the 30 30 between sustainability and tree fund but

i have one more question on your chart about two people four people can one person rent an apartment well i mean but it's not on your chart

It was intended to demonstrate different income guidelines based on the number of people in the household. Of course. Yes.

But if one, I was curious what the, and I'm not going to blind said you, but you know, what were the rent people?

A rent is static. It's the income limit. Yeah. It's the amount of the income limit.

No, no, not at all. Ladies with hats. Single ladies with hats. oh speaking is speaking as a okay so we have public comment um we have a few public comments i've got two cards are there more cards this year yes or no okay okay and i know we have some from the uh from the clerk jenny powell followed by gail silverblatt

Jenny Powell, 224 North Palmway. Good evening, mayor, vice mayor, commissioners. I support this project. I think they tick all the boxes and then some. I want to also call attention, well, I went to one of the public hearings. I went to the PZNB meeting, and now I'm here. And I think one thing that really stands out in a good way is that they listen to us and you know that doesn't happen very much um i am sorry that we won't be able to save the tree i understand though they made an effort to i mean two two groups hired a an arborist um so i hate to lose that shade um but i understand and i would support the alternate plan for parcel c I would support 100% of the sustainable bonus credit being waived and the $60,000 to be placed in the tree canopy restoration fund, which you might suspect since I'm on the tree board. Okay, I like the colors. I like the green and the blue and the orange. The two issues when we went to the public hearing, the two issues were the elevator, a second elevator, and the tree. And I just feel like they've done above and beyond. And honestly, I would be embarrassed. for the city to ask for any additional sustainable bonus money we've been a lot of waivers and and a lot of subsidies to a lot of projects and if there was ever a project that deserved this this is the one thank you thank you very much miss silverblatt who has developed a deep relationship with trees

Gail Silverblatt, 414 North Ocean Breeze. I'd like to thank Tim Wheat of the Pinnacle and the city staff for the research and consideration on relocating the large ficus tree. Regrettably, it's not feasible to relocate the tree. The large ficus tree provides shade, mitigates the heat island effect, Reduce the stormwater runoff, making it a haven for birds and wildlife in an area with limited shade. It's lost canopy will be deeply missed. Developers have been incorporating large trees as focal points in their projects as exemplified by the recent development of Vanderbilt University in West Palm Beach. Thank you for continuing the conversation to increase shade trees in the city. It's been almost three years since the commission suggested allocating funds for the shade trees in the annual budget. You're working on the budget now, so I hope you'll start that process soon. To continue your support for enhancing the tree canopies, the city's tree canopy, the commission could encourage developers contribute to the tree canopy restoration fund. This initiative would provide benefits to residents, the city, and good publicity for developers. i appreciate the new design of the pinnacle pocket park which incorporates larger trees a reduction in hardscape and the removal of the fenced artificial area which established it while establishing an urban habitat and a more open community space let's keep talking trees thank you very much madam clerk madam mayor i have no public comment on this item

Oh, okay, great. So in turn, I think the only thing we have to just decide the $60,000 all to all to the sustainable bonus. Are you okay with that? Since it could be used for trees. Well, I'd like to do 50-50. I'd like to do half and half, but there's four of us for members.

I can do 50-50. Or 30-30.

The math teacher. I would still rather go with the sustainable because we can choose to use it for it. And right now, I don't think it makes much of a difference. If we do choose to use it for it, we can budget for it later. But this is monies that should go into the sustainability bonus.

So we're saying that my reaction to that is we have made I think, splitting it 3030 shows our commitment to the trees, it's, you know, it's not something that could happen. It's something that there's money to do. So I think the three of us are okay with the 5030 5050. Okay, so I would like Oh, let me Oh, does the commission to the staff have any questions of the developer following my scripture? Does the developer have any questions of the staff? Okay, no, no, no. Do you have any, does the city staff have any closing arguments? No closing arguments, thank you. I feel like I'm in court. Does the applicant have any closing arguments? You quit while you're ahead. That's what the judge is saying, quit while you're ahead. Okay, and we're gonna close the public hearing at this point. And I ask for motion.

I'd like to make a motion.

Make motion.

I'd like to make a motion approving the parking space waiver, the alley buffer zone waiver, adding as a condition the elevator to the five-story building, adding as a condition utilizing the new shade tree design for Parcel C, and requiring thirty thousand dollars be paid to the sustainability bonus fund and thirty thousand dollars be paid to the tree beautification fund

Do I have a second? Second. Everybody wants a second. Ms. May was first. We'll give it to Ms. May. We'll give it to Ms. May. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Thank you very much. I want to say, we've worked with developers for the five and a half years we've been on this dais, and you really have been the most responsive, the most, we can talk to you, we can ask you questions. Thank you very much. you're good you're good you're a good example of a developer so to teach other developers how to be good developers and thank you we really look forward to this thank you so much wait wait when's it but wait but wait when is it going to be built i asked that question come on tim uh we expect to break ground beginning of the second quarter of 2027. so then end of march beginning of april you could make it the beginning of march right

well just for you yes one quick follow-up to that um i saw that you already started bringing down some of the derelict buildings that were used by fire are they all coming down yes well all on our property there's just one building left to demolish the track c and tract b have been cleared track day should be cleared by next week okay perfect yeah thank you thank you comfort we're going to take a comfort break we'll be back in a few

don't do that we're on public comment first aren't we on public comment oh we already did public participation i'm asleep at the wheel here okay

And what was this one?

When I went to California.

no i i haven't i just i know i have it so this is proposed by mr mccoy is this proposed by you what is the answer

yes the answer is yes with a number of people working on it right but most of them are not able to be done and you're asking for things that can't be done but go ahead and ask for it because then they're like you look good where is it i don't i had it there it is i mean you know some of this is impossible right chris i know sheriff's department that do them so no it's not impossible in florida in florida uh some of them give me give me your names give me a town all right madam mayor it is nine uh nine ten and we have reconvened okay great thank you very much madam uh clerk okay we are now on The agenda item D unfinished business revised law enforcement services agreement with Palm Beach county sheriff's office, I think we're going to have a presentation from the sheriff's office we're not going to have a presentation from the service oh okay surprise me so.

Madam Mayor, if you'd like, I'll give you a little overview. Thank you. As you recall, you spent probably three or four hours a few meetings ago going through this entire agreement. You, as a commission, made several changes. We walked through them line by line. The sheriff's office has accepted those changes. There are a couple of other changes that different members of the commission had indicated to me were important. Communicate that with the sheriff's office. And so what you have is a new version that really incorporates every change that you had requested.

okay um i have a question and i as you know i was gone for 10 days um they were i knew that i saw some uh emails about the body cameras for the park police and my question was how did that how did that finally shake out is this are you absorbing it or are you asking us to pay for the body cameras and i hope the answer is you're going to absorb it okay everyone um good evening mayor

When it comes to the park rangers, that will have to be paid for by the city of Lake Worth Beach, because that is something additional that was not in the original agreement.

Well, there's no original agreement. We were asking, we asked that be that be part of it. And I mean, I'm just saying for myself, the deputies do have body cameras and they will be police officers. And I just think that that's a little bit. I disagree with the fact that we should. That's my two cents. I don't know how everybody else feels about it. So let's just say, which we'll start with you.

On that particular topic, I believe the yearly cost was $9,000 a year. $1,900 per person. The total was $9,000 per year.

Five.

And it's $1,900.

So call it $10,000 a year. Totally. Okay, I thought it was more than that. Which is a lot more palatable. I do agree with you. I think we are expanding services and we have a very large contract. I think that could be included in it at the $10,000 a year number compared to the overall contract. It's

rather symbolic on either end but i would be very much in favor of having them absorb that having pbso yeah um i don't know if it's a deal breaker for pbso but we'll we'll see yeah oh okay um when it comes to that one oh sorry yes when it comes to that one that would be a deal breaker because if you want to park rangers and if you want them to have body worn cameras it would be an additional cost

Well, you keep saying that, but it's just like...

Yes, it will be an additional cost for those cameras, you know, for the body-worn cameras, and it will be a six-year agreement.

If we had more deputies come, would we have to pay for their body cameras? If we had like five more just deputies, would we have to pay for their body cameras?

No, that would probably be included, but that is a hypothetical. In this situation, like in the other...

areas of the county they are not getting body worn cameras in palm beach county unincorporated areas in those parks they're not going to have body worn cameras park rangers don't have money we know they will not of our citizens and and the police we do so are we ten thousand dollars you know let us eat that or yeah who owns the cameras do we get to keep them

Well, it's going to be a six-year contract, and it will be under us, but you have to pay for them. But that's for the service. That's for the actual equipment and also the service of the body-worn cameras. But also along with that, that comes with data storage and other things like that.

Okay. How long do they record if there's a problem?

It could be for hours if need to be. It could be literally for hours.

What I'm asking is if we heard about an incident in the park, if there was a body camera, there'd be some verification of what had actually happened. How long is, and let's say that was recorded, how long would that be stored?

If we flag it, it could be stored for several years.

And how quickly do you have to flag it?

Deputies would do it that night. If they need it, they tag it.

But so there, here's...

I mean, we keep the storage. We have the storage. That's going to be there no matter what. But if we need to tag certain things in that video, we do that. Like, we mark it.

Okay. But if somebody a week later came and said, I had a problem last week with the park rangers and I want to look at their body camera, it would be available?

Yes. It would be available. Yes. And you can make a public request and you can get a copy of that.

Okay. All right. Good. I appreciate that. Well, if there are other things that people want to talk about, that's fine, but otherwise I will jump in.

i all right um i have reviewed the contract i did have some concerns that uh we as i raised in the pre-agenda meeting that we were getting things well beyond our deadline normal deadline for backup but um i'd like to go through some things that i would like to see added um and all of you have a written copy of that and you've also received it by email um these are items that a number of people in the community have worked on to come up with uh the content and the language yes I have one uh I don't have another copy I did I have one I have a copy I have a cup all right give um yeah i had some technical difficulties yes but um anyhow um i will say that a number of these items that i'm going to suggest and ask for approval um are things that there are sheriff's offices around the country that do these exact things so it's not um in the way out there in the ozone any in florida any in florida Some of the items. Yes.

So help us now.

We have a couple options. You have the sheet that all fits on one page. You we could. My colleagues could say, let's speed up the discussion, add them all in. It's indicated where they add them or we can go through them one at a time as as people like. If you want to prove the whole lot of them, that'll save us a lot of time.

But or you could do them in groups, two of them.

one is in art well they're both in article two one is under law enforcement patrol services services section 2.1 and the other is under section 2.3 administrative responsibility so they're a little bit separate in their content what is the pleasure of my colleagues

there's a couple here that i think are just understood um nothing yes okay okay i mean the purpose of one of the first things just so that folks know what we're talking about the first one that mr mcboy has is the sheriff understands and agrees that within the corporate limits of the city the primary duty of pbs of employees of pbso shall be to serve and protect all residents and visitors to the city i think that's something that we yes right

All right.

The sheriff, the second one, the sheriff shall not enter any agreements with any third party is commonly understood in criminology research and criminology. This practice would in any way undermine or diminish local policing and the provision of law enforcement services to residents. I don't even understand what that means, but you help me.

OK. That. In general, I mean, it's probably something that Christy or if she was involved, looking at this would say it's not a bad idea to have in your contract that you are contracting you. The city is contracting with an entity to provide a particular service, in this case, law enforcement, local law enforcement. You might want to put in a clause that says, hey, you guys are a bigger entity. You do other things. You do other things at other places. Don't do anything that is known that would diminish or undermine the service that you're contracting for. and the somewhat clumsy language i will take that um as commonly understood in criminology research and criminality best practice there are things that somebody could sign an agreement to do that are known in those research in those you know best practices that they do diminish and i'm just saying i think it'd be a good idea for to protect our residents to add that in

Personally, I think that one is too vague to be added. I'm not in accordance with that. I'm fine with A. I don't have a problem with B. It's very vague.

And, you know, having worked in the committee, yeah. So C, what about C? So B is no? As far as I'm concerned, B is a no. But we will take a vote. um the sheriff well do you want to vote on them one at a time so we don't have to come back sure okay okay anybody for uh b i think a we agree with every day that's what you do well okay no no wait mister you're shaking your head no okay do you dispute the fact that the primary duty of pbso shall be to serve and protect all residents and visitors to the city no i don't dispute that but but we have already negotiated the contract already

And I have read through this document, and I must say, PBSO cannot agree to this document. Now, we can agree to maybe number one. We already do that. We know that. But we cannot agree to everything else.

We're doing one at a time. OK. It's a contract negotiation. And I tend to agree with what you're saying.

You guys can't do anything on this paper.

I just feel that the contract already covers what we do already. We've already negotiated. I think that adding anything here is just going to hold up the process.

Right. That is a possible true statement.

Has our attorney seen this, Mr. McLeod?

uh he has it i don't yes i did when um today i'm sorry this afternoon talk about late you notice yeah well there didn't seem to have any problem with not meeting our backup so i you know i got it in when i could get it in had a lot of things going on um let's keep going and let's remember that A contract negotiation is not that the person you're contracting plunks down a contract and says, here's what... And they haven't. Well, they kind of did. The contract came from them. Our job as elected body...

Please tell us what our job is, Mr. Porter. May I not be interrupted, please?

Our job as the elected body is to... provide the services to our residents and be fiscally responsible with our biggest contract, which is 15 million. So let's go ahead. What was our vote on B? This is a roll call. So I'm assuming three no's and one yes. Let's go to C. The sheriff shall insure.

I'm going to vote on this.

Yeah. Let's either vote for, let's either do the whole thing or not.

No, let's not do that. I'm asking for individual things.

It's a number C. What's the feeling of number C? We all have a copy. What's the feeling of number C?

The sheriff shall insure.

I know what it is. We're reading it. Okay, let's save time because it's already a long time.

Shall not use immigration status or suspected immigration status as a reason to take investigative action, nor shall employees check nor ask about immigration status when performing their duties.

They already don't do that.

No, they do do that. I verify them. And. The issue here is we are contracting for local law enforcement to reduce crime in our community. A criminal is a criminal if they're doing something criminal, truly criminal. It's unimportant what their immigration status is. The issue that we're negotiating for and contracting for is, did you do a robbery? Did you do a burglary? Are you a gang member? Whatever. So there's no reason to worry about immigration status. There's a reason to focus the energies laser focused on criminal practices and catching people. So I would think that that is a pretty reasonable thing.

the only what's the vote on that well say you know the you said it's you know the slam dunk that they just gave us this contract we did have changes to the contract it was a few weeks since this happened and this was not brought up so I mean at this point you're used items yep sorry um you had plenty of time to bring this not to do it on the afternoon of the meeting when we have no time to either discuss it with the sheriff we're not i mean it's time to come to terms with this contract we have gone back and forth so i um and i understand your cons the concerns that we all have about that but i've spoken with the sheriff and they don't i asked specifically last time i was here when you pull somebody over do you ask their immigration status and the answer was yes no it's not okay let me okay let me just clarify this when it comes to this i

Okay. When we come in contact person with a person, if we stop a person, let's say a traffic stop and we run them and they come back with no identification they have. And they also, they come back with no ties to the community. Then we make a phone call to our designated immigration officer at that point. Right. We do that. No ID, no, no identification, no ties to the community or. If they come back, well, at that point we contact our designated immigration officer. They come out, we speak to them, and then we would take them to the jail. And then from there, they would determine if a hole would be placed on them by immigration.

Okay. So that's an internal PBSO policy. Is that correct?

Yes.

Okay. Which is a little troublesome because I mean, I, I tend to agree with, you know, pull somebody over. you know i mean if i if if you pulled me over and i didn't have my driver's license with me what would you do well we will run you in the fcic and ncic system and then it should come up with no problem is it any different from what you're doing if someone is that different than a contacting immigration now keep in mind we're talking about a person that is driving a car

committing a crime by not having a driver's license, or committing another crime, any type of crime, and we run them. That's what we're referring to. When you're talking stops.

You pull somebody over.

Yes.

You ask for their name and who are they.

Yes.

And they have to tell you. That's part of it, right? That's a system without violence, which I think is the cheesiest charge in the world. So you do more than run their FCIC, NCIC, if you think there's an immigration issue?

If we come in contact with a person for a crime, right, for a crime, we run them in our database, which is in our local POM system, NCIC, FCIC, national, and also Florida. If they come back with no driver license, it says this individual, no record of a driver license, no ties to the community, we don't know who they are. From that point, we will notify one of our designated immigration officers who have been trained for this. And then they will make a phone call to the immigration phone line that's in place. And then from there, they will be taken to the jail for whatever charge they receive for a crime.

Driving too fast. No, not driving too fast.

Driving without a driver license.

Okay.

That's, that's my suit. Yes. For any other crime or any other felony or misdemeanor crime, it will be taken to the jail as they normally would be.

so if you found if I was driving and I mean I've worked on the criminal justice so if I'm driving and I I don't have a license or suspended for whatever reason and you pulled me over and I didn't have a driver's license you would take me to jail yeah I can't wait I'm just confirming that I mean you would take me to jail if I didn't have a driver's license and I was driving yes yeah okay that's a simple answer yeah the answer I expect you have to show up in court for that

so um what what my point would be of putting c in there is the person has that has been stopped has committed some crime in the past we have not dealt with not having driver's license we had more discretion because the prosecutor the the legal system the justice system has to deal with all this stuff says we have a lot of things going on and we would like to focus on serious crime things we're not going to really deal with if you have a driver's license you can give them a warning or whatever now we're directly sending them to ice That is so when PBSO says we're not involved in immigration issues, they are. And that's why I would put that in there in our contract that we want them to focus on the criminal things it's got to be something better than not having a license um that's that's not our biggest crime problem in this we have bigger crime problems that i think we should focus our energy but if they're arrested for a crime they will be transported to the jail that's what we do okay yes or no on c okay

I'm going to mark it down as 3-1.

Sheriff shall ensure that within the corporate limits of the city, employees of PBSO shall not detain non-citizens solely at ICE's request when ICE lacks a valid and verified judicial warrant or court order. So that says we don't want our contractor, PBSO, to turn people over to ice when ice doesn't have a valid verified judicial warrant or court order and I think that seems like a pretty basic thing that and and that's been a big issue with ice that the whole idea of a court order is you have probable cause you've convinced a judge you have a probable cause and now you can go look for the person this says pbso shouldn't be messing with that if you don't see a valid and verified judicial warrant or a court order that seems to me like making sure that our the person we contract the entity we contract with stays focused on crime not on carrying out federal law enforcement particularly when it's not law which it's not if they don't have a valid and verified judicial warrant or court order what's your pleasure

Again, I think that you're stating something that you're making yourself look very good, but I think that this is not.

My purpose is not to make myself look very good. Believe me, I spent most of the day trying to help a mother in this community get habeas corpus because our rules say you can't detain people. That mother was listening to people screaming as people were hauled out of it. I'm reading about people winding up in Africa from our community, from South Florida. This is not to make me look good. This is because what is happening in this country is way out of control. And I do not want taxpayer money in our city being spent to do that. And a lot of other people in this community have made it clear for a year they've been asking, pursue what are the legal angles for us? And this commission has refused it. So now I'm bringing it up. What's your pleasure on D, yes or no?

let me ask the question does the um pbso detain non-citizens solely if ice says if there's no warrant and ice says detain them do you would you detain them if there's no admin if there's no criminal or administrative warrants most of the people who we have most of the people who we have detected have been

facing charges they have they have been charged with with the crime right the majority um and if they're not the national statistics don't bear that out at all and it's been repeatedly pointed out that they don't well those are the national statistics we're talking about it but the status this is this is about the PBSO so let's keep going all right portion of involvement in mass deportations mass kidnappings and i don't want our city taxpayer and a lot of people in this community also don't want our taxpayer money going to that so if if captain carne says well we're not doing that then it should be fine that in the writing that we won't no we know that they're not doing it so okay then it'd be okay to put it in the conference okay

We are required, as I've already stated before, statutorily, we are required to be involved with the 287G. That's part of Florida State Statute 908. I've already mentioned that several times here. That will not change. That will not change at all.

Okay, three one black sport without the e the sheriff shall ensure that within the corporate limits of the city, no immigration enforcement activities shall occur within 500 feet of schools medical facilities or places of worship.

There is that restriction for you be able to do them.

You could do that. You could say, we do not allow that in our city. And we will make sure that that doesn't happen.

I disagree with the fact that they could do that. They don't really tell ICE what to do.

Well... Yes, there have been cases of that where local or state law enforcement has seen illegal activity by federal ICE and has stopped it and said that is not legal in our community. It is possible to do that. And it is well known. It is not legal to shoot protesters. ICE has done that. Multiple places. Maine, Minneapolis.

Where in Florida has that been?

They contributed.

We live in a different world.

No, I do not live in a different world.

We live in a different world than Minnesota and California.

So no support for the 500 schools, medical facility, or places of worship, yes?

We have no jurisdiction to do that.

Okay, no support.

The sheriff shall ensure within the corporate limits of the city, no immigration enforcement activities shall incur within sight of children.

Again, you're saying you're asking them to do things. They have no jurisdiction. They have no jurisdiction over what I say.

We have jurisdiction to put whatever we want in our contract. OK, thank you. So can come back and say legally we can't do this, but we could ask for it as something that we as a community feel is important. We don't have to, but we certainly have the right to put whatever we want in our contract.

It is a contract of two parties. And again, if this had come to us a month ago, we would have much more time.

It came to you a year ago. Unity has been asked. Okay, let's go on 3-1 against that one. Administrative responsibilities, C. The sheriff shall obtain and provide monthly data on all law enforcement arrests or detentions that occur within the corporate limits of the city regardless of agency. Such data shall include but not be limited to arresting or detaining agency and then a bunch of particulars of the person, name, age and so on. Location of the arrest, basis for the arrest, including probable cause, location of detention, where they've been hauled off to, and a copy or a link to the judicial warrant or court order that was involved. As our agency that we contract for local enforcement, law enforcement, I believe it is well within reason for the commission and the taxpayers who are paying the bill for this to ask that we be provided data what is happening in the way of law enforcement in our community. and i'm told repeatedly well that's not our data we can't you know you got to get yourself no the agency that we pay to do local law enforcement can perfectly well obtain that data provide it for us on a monthly basis i quite distinctly remember earlier sessions of this commission saying well we don't know if it's really happening and you know somebody's got probably the data that would be a reasonable request of the agency that we are contracting none of this is unreasonable stuff to provide and then we know what is happening in our community I, so I'm looking for support for that.

Well, my question to the sheriff is what access do you, do you have access? My understanding when we met with the HP, my understanding is that you, do you have a question? Do you have access to INS, ICE statistics?

We don't have access to their information. Oh, sorry. We do not have access. We do not have access to their information. What I will say is we provide information to the state of Florida, I believe, monthly. I've already given you the websites how to obtain that information. I've already given that out. Each commissioner up here. We cannot give out any other information other than that.

Do you get information from ICE?

No. Why would we have information about what they do?

Could we get information from the city? I mean, my understanding is they're very tight with their information.

You could get the data from those websites that I provided to you on their arrest. I provided it to each commissioner.

May I comment?

So my question, Mr. McVoy, I understand this is very important data. I personally reached out and requested some of it. Thank you for providing those websites and the data I got was interesting and useful. I'm assuming since it's vital and important to you, you've been requesting this on a monthly basis for a year since you've been asking for it. Would that be correct? that would not be correct so what that's not the issue here hold on wait a minute you know we're talking about the importance of this data and we're talking about whether or not we want to pay an agency to retrieve this data for us if that data was so important to you why didn't you take the five minutes to make the requests

And how does that work? How does it have to do?

It's a public records request. Each one of them has a form. It takes about 30 seconds to fill out. You can request whatever data you need. They respond within 24 hours, sometimes 48. And you get the data.

And is that just PBS? Is that just PBS? No, no.

Captain Car and provide us, I believe it was four different agencies that you can ask. And each agency has their own format and everything. Each agency has their own format. But each agency is responsive to those requests.

And ICE is one of them?

uh yeah border patrol eyes homeland security hsi um and there are other agencies that they didn't provide but you know a short amount of research from you know looking around to the agencies that i wanted to get data and i did this in response to certain requests from from residents who were saying that people had been detained unjustly that they were american citizens or they had legal status and i was trying to get the information on those cases. I did. In all cases, they actually were properly detained and they did not have status. So there was nothing that could be done. And they were not charged with a crime, just not being ? Some were charged with crimes.

But that would show the information.

Yes, it does show information. It is available. And if it was that important, i would think in the last 12 months you at least would have requested it once and since you haven't requested it once i cannot support your request the city pay for someone to do that for you when it it's literally five minutes of your time so it can't do that i stick with my request that i think

to do the best law enforcement in our community, it would behoove the agency that we are contracting with to do local law enforcement for them to be very conscious of what all law enforcement activity is happening in our community, whether it has judicial warrants, where people are being taken. In contrast to the statements that have been made, we know that a number of pieces of this information, because we look for it to support the families, is not easy to get and sometimes not available at all, or it's not available timely. I would think that asking the contracting party Do they take responsibility? Yes, it's maybe a little bit. If it's really only five minutes for each agency, that's 20 minutes and you only have to do it once a month. I think that would be a very reasonable request to put in and they provide us the data. It might even be nice if they put it all into one spreadsheet. So it says, you know, this agency did this person, this agency did that person, some other agency. And we have it so that we can really have a full picture of what is happening in the way of law enforcement in our community. That's an information request. There is no 287 G limitation. Or let me ask, let me let me not assert I'm not the attorney here. we have an attorney available to anybody's knowledge in the room no no no no we're not asking well all right not to I was thinking of Captain Karn and the attorney narrow it down to that I thought there might be some more uh law enforcement folks is there any G 287 G agreement limitation to providing data to us to the best of

i don't know what 287 g agreement says with the sheriff's office i've never been provided a copy or asked for a copy of that so i don't know what restrictions there are i think one of the difficulties i think is that we live in a state that's different than other states and each state has their own rules in terms of cooperation uh captain mentioned statute 908 11 and that requires that county sheriffs assist and enter into these 287g agreements so that's different than for example we've got optional there's a case out of michigan that just came out of a federal court where they upheld a local sheriff and a local county commission from not cooperating with ice saying no you don't have to do that but michigan has very different laws in the state of florida so that's that's really i think where the rub is you're getting into this issue of states rights versus federal rights that's what that case was about and states have rights and federal government has rights

state of florida has said we are cooperating with the federal government in this and local governments must do that so that's where kind of the represent the road in the law part but i is it not true that the requirement at the state level is at the counties not at municipalities because there are municipalities that haven't signed i believe one of them is in a lawsuit on it so this is a little bit confusing area because we are contracting with a county agency, but we are contracting for a service and we should not be getting a service that's diminished by other agreements because then we're not getting our money's worth. and we know that was why i had one of the early ones but let we've let though we've already looked at those but information provision is separate i don't think there's any 287g i mean i defer to captain karn if he knows that there's a part of 287g that says no we can't provide any information well all right but i don't believe that's there

You can get the information that is allowed by the state of Florida from their website.

I'm asking for PSO to provide that for us.

Even if it came to normal crimes outside of this, right? I can't give you their name, their address, their date of birth, and all the information about who we arrest throughout the city. We don't do that now for other crimes outside of immigration issues. We don't do that now.

Okay. That would be a reasonable point to negotiate on what things can you provide of those lists. Maybe you don't want to put names. Maybe you put country of origin. Maybe you put immigration status. Maybe you don't put a number.

I would say go to the website that's already put together. No, that's not what I'm asking.

I think we are going to wrap this up a little bit.

All right, let's go to the next one.

Yeah, my only comment on that is, you know, your point A basically outlines what the primary role of what you see PBSO is, which is to address crime for all people within the city limits, not to data gather. I do agree that this data is vitally important. That's why I've taken the initiative for myself to gather it when I so chose to. Perhaps, Mr. McVoy, this is a better task suited for the legislative assistant. If this is going to be vital to your role here as a commissioner, data gathering falls under that. I don't believe it falls under asking police officers to do data gathering. So I'm not arguing with the need for this data. I feel that the data was very useful, and I think it continues to be useful. It's whether we're asking our law enforcement officers to be data gatherers. And I don't think that's appropriate. You know, that's why we're going to have a legislative assistant to assist us in these kinds of things, just like data gathering in other areas of our job duties, as well as just some personal initiative. Again, if it was that important, you would have done it.

okay thank you very much um i think we've got one more left and i would like to respond to that um nobody on this commission had an objection when pvso made their report and provided data on crimes in 2007 and 2020 that they gathered the data and spent police time uh gathering that They did not provide any context for that data. Captain Car and graciously has provided it. And if we had looked at if that had been provided a more fulsome data gathering, we would have seen that the drop in crime between 2007 and 2020 was actually less in Lake Worth than it was countywide or in Boynton Beach or Riviera Beach or some of the other ones. So we didn't get fulsome data. and but nobody had any problem with that kind of data gathering i think it is reasonable to ask in the process of doing the best law enforcement possible that we should get that let's look at c1 which is shall provide daily data on uh any and all pbso detentions not this is not getting it from other agencies this is what pbso does provide us now if you can't do some of those things cross off name age you could probably provide country of origin probably provide dob probably leave off immigration status you could provide a number leave off occupation presence of family members within the city you could provide all of that and that would be helpful for us to know what is happening in our community anybody have any objection to that and let's go ahead I'm going to say without name take name off of that from C1 in in line in line one I think we're going to summarize take off in number C1 is there any um C1 one two or three um asking the sheriff again to have a whole different act of specific

members of the thing information that they don't normally get is what they have what mr before what um is the pleasure of commission it's a no on that no okay thank you miss may yeah i mean i'm just it's okay i'm sorry madam mayor i just want to let you know that um three minutes and 29 seconds and also we should have a motion to extend to 11. motion to extend to 11. second second all in favor all right motion not to let the 30 minute force us into a workshop uh so you're not waving we're not waving the 30 minutes is what you're saying no he's right i don't want to be forced into a workshop so let's see all right now we have public comment

i'm sorry um so is there a second so it's like to waive the rule right so to just keep going until we're done the rules automatically build our workshop public comment can we make a motion to approve the contract before we have to we can make a motion yes you can make a motion motion to approve motion to approve the pbso contract as amended in red light red light second by mr uh segregerate okay we have public comment

I'm sorry, as you're teeing up public comment, Commissioner Segridge made a motion to waive the 30-minute rule. I did not hear a seconder vote.

How close are we to the 30-minute rule? We're there.

You're at three minutes and 29 seconds.

Thank you. Public comment doesn't count to it? No.

No, public comment does not count.

All right. Well, let's see where we are.

It's only your discussion, nobody else. When Captain Karn speaks, I pause when it's not the four of you.

So we're going to waive the automatic workshop.

Yeah, I'd like to waive that because we are going to have a discussion on the vote.

Is there a second? By Ms. May, all in favor? Aye. Okay, a comment. We have quite a bit. I'm going to call the first name and then I'm going to call the second name to get you on deck. Greg Richter is up first. Mel is second. Followed by Dr. Pezzetta.

Wow, this is, good evening, Madam Mayor, commissioners. Oh, I'm sorry. My name is Greg Richter, 1202 South Palmway. Wow, I never thought I'd see a Benny's on the beach contract dilemma again, but this is exactly what's being played out here. I understand you all have had a contract. You renegotiated a contract. You came here tonight prepared to, you came here tonight prepared to get this done. And that's what you need to do. I think Captain Karn, I want to thank you. I've been, you know, part of the citizens liaison for the last couple of years. He's been a great guy to work with. PBS being great to work with. Let's get our park rangers out there and let's get this thing done. So thank you very much.

Thank you. Mel. Mel, you name an address first, please.

Mel Stevens, 720 Lucerne Ave. Stevens.

Yep.

Okay. Two minutes. Yep. First, actually, something you said earlier. Well, just you said, what was it? Resisting without violence is the cheesiest charge in existence. Yeah. Well, yeah, it came to mind. you know, get into jail free card, perhaps one might say. Um, but, um, yeah, so I'm here on behalf of, uh, Palm beach and treasure coast DSA, hence the t-shirt. Um, so, uh, No PBSO officers who have been trained and deputized by ICE should be policing our community. The behavior we have seen recorded in videos I think widely shared online has shown a clear pattern of disregard for human rights and racial profiling. They work hand in hand, collaborating with the likes of a border patrol officer who said, because you're an immigrant when detaining a black citizen, who chose not to show ID. They are helping to foment public fear rather than provide public safety. Furthermore, we should seek to end the mass surveillance police state that is being promulgated within the city. I heard earlier about consideration for getting rid of flock cameras potentially being on the agenda in the future. It starts with getting rid of flock. It does not end with getting rid of flock. There's other things such as stingrays, which are fake cell towers that gather data, other forms of surveillance cameras, et cetera. We need to eliminate mass surveillance from our community. Thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah, I didn't know we had it.

Good evening, Madam Mayor. Renata Bozzero, 9497 Boca Garden Circle South, for the record, in Boca Raton. I'm here with the Florida Immigrant Coalition. A couple of comments. August 18th, two of your residents were arrested on D Street with six favs. One of them was a driver, one of them was not. So this should answer your question about how are people's IDs and immigration status being run, because if the passenger was also detained, stopped, or interrogated for any reason under the immigration status, why would they if they were not drivers? That is one question. Another comment that I have is related to sensitive locations. Because Mr. McVoy, in one of the bullet points, asked for the contract to be amended to add a protection to places of worship schools, and hospitals, I believe, which were part of a federal memo, not part of law. So when you ask, and the Sheriff Kern mentioned that this cannot be added because of law or jurisdiction, I just want to remind you that just the federal memo was able to protect those locations in the past. So I do recommend a little further investigation on this. And lastly, on the state law and local application of this law. Not only municipalities are not required to have any participation on 287 ,, but the city of South Miami actually asked this in court. And it was the very state legal representation that stated that no municipal governments are not required. Thank you.

and we have the time recording mr chapman followed by jimmy powell followed by katherine colman following your own rules what a shock okay um tyler chapman 12 24 16th avenue north

Having a surveillance police state who, without probable cause, investigates all of our community members with cameras is a violation of their rights, violation of the rights of this community. So if you were going to say that this contract is fine the way it is, I'm surprised that you wouldn't care more about your constituents' Fourth Amendment rights to be secure in there. against investigation without probable cause. That's what we're seeing with this surveillance state. The fact that we pay for it as taxpayers is troubling. The fact that it doesn't bother you as representatives is even more troubling. You, Betty Resch, said that you were a prosecutor. You seem very proud of that. Cool. I wonder why it is then that you take the word of an officer just at face value. You know quite well that the police lie without regard for the truth quite readily as a part of their job, and they have no obligation to be honest in the way that they deal with the public. You are a member of the public. You're representing the public. I would ask you to be um more diligent in the way that you address these issues as you've often tried to stop uh dr mcvoy here from being diligent in the way he asks questions you could maybe shift a little maybe you don't want to go as deep as commissioner mcvoy does but you could go a little deeper and i would respect you all the more if you took that kind of interest in doing your job at that level of uh

importance there.

These again are issues that make me extremely upset. I'm upset right now. I spend time with community members who are terrorized by the police state. I myself have been terrorized by the police state. I would ask you to be more careful in how you address this, considering the people in this room are violating the rights of the people who you are supposed to represent. don't approve this without strictly moving away from any officers who've been trained by ice these ice deputized officers are violating rights followed by v

Jenny Powell, 224 North Palmway. A few comments and observations. I guess one of the most glaring observations is that in your proclamation tonight, you're celebrating Hispanic Heritage Month. I mean, it just... I think, Mayor, you did have some moment of understanding that this is terrible what's happening in our community, but it just seems hypocritical. So that's one. I want to... Okay, on this data thing, if I break into my neighbor's house and... my name somebody reports me and the police come and they arrest me and there's gonna be a lot of data on me um and i i mean they're they're gonna find out who i am and where i live and there's gonna be data and it's gonna go into a database somewhere maybe i don't fully understand this but my point is is that there's there should be data somewhere for every person that's arrested and detained. And I guess, I mean, I think there would be a record if I broke into somebody's house and took something and the police came, the sheriffs came, there's going to be a record about what I did or anybody in this room. So there's a database. So I don't know why there can't be a database that we have easy access to or that we could do through the sheriff's office. That just... I don't get it. I don't get why that is a problem. I guess those are my two main points I wanted to make. I think Catherine and I talked a few things, and she's going to come up next. But I just, yeah, some of this seems so easy to do. I don't know why it's a problem. It's a $16 million contract. We should be negotiating over weeks, not two commission meetings.

Thank you. Followed by Barbara Aaron.

Katherine Kohlmeyer, 503 First Avenue South. According to WLRN on June 23rd and Miami Herald on June 26th, the City of Miami Police Department has two designated immigration officers. This was informed by Miami Police Department officials and by the City of Miami City Manager. City of Miami Police Department has over 1,100 officers, and I can't remember how many people live in the City of Miami, but it's quite a lot, quite a lot more than Lake Worth Beach. Lake Worth Beach, of the 85 officers that in the contract are applied to District 14, Lake Worth Beach from PBSO, 85 officers, nine of them are designated immigration officers. Now, we've heard that PDSL has no choice. They signed 287G, but they do have a choice as to how many officers they designate as immigration officers. And they've made that choice. Miami, city of Miami, 1,100 officers has two. Out of 85 offices in Lake Worth Beach, there are nine designated immigration offices. I think this shows an enthusiasm for helping immigration, the enforcement by ICE, FHP, and what have you, by PBSO. And that tells us there is a choice there. PBSO is making a choice. Lake Worth Beach can make a choice. You have a choice. You're a city. You do not have to allow this to go on. You do not have to renew this contract as it is. You know that PBSO has nine immigration officers operating in our city. You can choose to say, no, we don't want any designated immigration officers operating in our city. You can do that. That's within your power. And if you don't, it's a choice you are making.

We contact. V and then Barbara and then Ken Stokes.

Again, the yellow 1134 19th Avenue North. In my last comments here, I was focused primarily on flock and LPRs. That's automated license plate readers and other such surveillance technology in our city. We cannot support this contract renewal without addressing that aspect which i can see that there's already state movement and local movement which i'm glad for um but i cannot support the renewal of this contract while i know that a large part of our budget would be going to that maybe not now but in the future I am reaffirming about Miami Beach not being 287G. This is still an option for Lake Worth. We could be a city that is also not 287G. I think that's incredibly important as in the last meeting, I don't want to be petty. Boynton Beach absolutely is 287G and they have 125 immigration incidents with their PD since last year. But what I want to say right now, since so many other people have made excellent points and that I'm not articulating correctly, is that we have experts. on immigration and experts on PBSO's collaboration as 287G in this room who are staying past their 12-hour work days to speak with you. And when you dismiss them in favor of listening only to police testimony rather than people who are working in the community every day, it's not only disrespectful, but a huge loss of knowledge. You lose the opportunity to hear their expertise from the people who are not only working in this field but living it people from some of the largest and most recognizable organizations on the front lines of immigration right now in our city and nationwide as lake worth beach specifically has become an epicenter for ice activity so i urge you to listen to what everyone else here will say thank you followed by kim stokes followed by

Hi, I'm Barbara, Barbara Erev, and I live at 9361 Eden Rock Court in Delray Beach. Yes, the county had the sheriff's office had to sign the 287G. But like some of the people here have been saying, you have a discretion from there. In fact. sheriff bradshaw from last year to this has made public comments over and over again how he's going to limit his cooperation each county is doing things in a different way so that's number one and it is a choice and also uh the city you are requiring for law enforcement to provide you data and analysis on their law enforcement activities. The city, I assume, would never sign a contract, leaving it to the sheriff's office to decide what they would or will or will not do concerning law enforcement. The same should be true when we are talking about immigration enforcement. As far as getting the data, The State Board of Immigration Enforcement gets its data from each county sheriff's office from each county sheriff. That's where it's coming from. And so they only provide the public, that is the State Board in their dashboard, only aggregate information on immigration encounters and on arrest. we now have different publications for example an august 2026 investigative report from suncoast searchlight the florida trident and a public media showed that florida state board of immigration enforcement has swept tens of thousands of people into its database they are getting it from our sheriff and others because the practice now is to

encounter people ask for their immigration status many times based on suspicion followed by lindsey lindsey mcelroy followed by david lopez goodness i don't i don't know how to read the name but i'm sorry mayor can you speak up please sure um kim stokes is next followed by I can't read your name, but I'm sure. What? Okay, thank you.

Kim Stokes, 1321 North L Street. I just want to start off by saying I think the $500,000 a year for these park rangers is a complete waste of money. You have employees that watch these meetings who are being told that they might not have a job next year, but you are going to protect these five people contractually for three years with a $1.5 million obligation. You won't be able to get rid of them if Amendment 3 passes because you chose tonight. to commit this city to that obligation which is a slap in the face you all talk about how much you love your employees what you're doing tonight is a huge slap in the face to them um we have been asking for over a year for these special meetings for the data to to look into what you can do with the sheriff to ask for legal help you've refused us every time tonight is a hail mary this is not pointing to Commissioner McVoy, the only person in this room who seems to have a shred of dignity when it comes to this issue. It is not his fault that you have repeatedly for a year rejected the pleas of the people that are coming here, that see the terror that is happening all the time in our communities. You were elected to serve the people, not to jump out of airplanes and film yourself at city sponsored events to serve. And sometimes bad things happen on your watch that aren't your fault, but you need to do it. Mayor Pam has the way she reacted to the pandemic following her around for the rest of her life. You all are going to have this following you around for the rest of your life because you chose not to act in any way. We have nine officers in here that are designated immigration enforcement. You allowed that to happen. Get the data. What are those officers doing? They are PDSO deputies. This bold... saying we can't get that federal data these are your contracted officers doing immigration enforcement in your town what are they up to who are they arresting how are they cooperating they can give you that data ask for something or you know go home tonight pat yourself on the back we are going to be the only municipality where we have civilians wearing body cameras job well done thank you

Hi, Lindsay McElroy, 334 Charles Avenue in Miami, but I represent the Guatemala Maya Center community I've served for the past 12 years. I want to speak to you today again and reiterate that the city of Miami's population is about half a million. The city of Miami has deputized two ICE officers. City of Lake Worth has a population that we discussed earlier, 44,000, over 50% Hispanic. which has nine officers deputized as ICE. And we already know PBSO is very aggressive because I told you last time that as of June, PBSO as a whole has deputized 160 officers. If we take this 10% of officers, about 10%, and look at the $16 million budget you're looking into signing, that represents about $1.6 million that you all are willing to give to immigration enforcement In a time where children are being torn from their families, I was going to speak to you tonight about the family reunification flight we're going on on Friday. Father Frank, an almost 85-year-old priest, is flying eight children, four of them are five and under, to Guatemala on Friday. All of them are Lake Worth Beach residents. Seven of the children are U.S. citizens. They're in our elementary schools. Erica Whitfield told us that there's a 7,000 children decline in the amount of kids enrolled this year. We know why. They're coming to our doors. We're sending out Amazon wish lists of suitcases and backpacks and trying to make the experience as least traumatic as possible. Some of the parents were taken by Florida Highway Patrol and some of the parents were taken by PBSO. And PBSO keeps taking... Passengers, why are they asking for passengers' identifications? We've asked them and we do not understand. Our youngest children, one-year-old Fabiana, two-year-old Louis, they're going to be pushed in the airport. Three-year-old Aiden Domingo, you guys have seen the video. He just has to say goodbye to all his siblings because his parents got deported and they think it's best for him to grow up with his mom. Thank you.

Jens Lopez from IAMS. Thank you. Followed by Petrona Lopez. Followed by Yuri Morales.

My name is Di-V, address is 1776 Lake Worth Road, and I represent a Hispanic community. I come from a Guatemalan background, but I'm a US citizen born and raised here in Lake Worth. So I believe funding that PBSO would be a horrible idea on your part. because we have people so officers acting like ICE agents, even though that is not their job. Their job is here to protect and serve the community no matter what their background is. However, I have witnessed PBS so literally stop people in their work trucks As for identification, I have family members who have given their license, then their registration and have followed the rules. However, they've been told to stop and they have called immigration and they were being investigated, even though they followed their rules. They obeyed what the officers were doing. But what does that do? Nothing. And they do not listen at all. And as well as the decline of students in Lake Worth. I am a senior right now. I have seen people have to drop out of school and work because of this. They have to support their family that is left. And they also cannot achieve the dreams that they've been here working so hard for. as well as they've been just making it Lake Worth less safe as well. Who are we supposed to call when police is acting like we do not feel safe calling police at all for any sort of crime that's being committed? And you literally recognize us for Hispanic Heritage Month. You've given us an award to the Guatemala Mind Center. However, you're here kind of acting two-faced and everything, saying, oh, arrests have never been made, that they haven't deported any U.S.-born citizen. And it's crazy because there are reports, there's news, there's articles. You could just search it up and you'll see it. It's literally right there in front of you. It is not fake news. You could see it all. Thank you.

Ms. Lopez, followed by Ms. Morales, followed by Ms. Ruiz. Or Mr. Ruiz, I'm not sure. And then I have some Father Frank to be read.

Adriana Lopez, 19 No. J Street. Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, and Commissioners. I was born and raised in Lake Worth Beach. I attended South Grade Elementary, Lake Worth Middle, and graduated from Lake Worth Community High School. I was so proud of growing up in such a diverse community, surrounded by my Indigenous-minded heritage here in Lake Worth. The City Commission continues to celebrate us now, but the kids growing up here don't get the same pride. Where I grew up proud, they now grow up afraid. The kids are afraid their parents will be taken. The community is afraid to report crimes that are happening to them. The parents are afraid they will never come home from work. I've witnessed many detentions here in our community, whether it's our local sheriff's department, state police, or ICE. I have had many loved ones detained and deported with the assistance of PBSO. Family and friends come to me to locate a family member who has gone missing, but most of the time they cannot be found in the system. For example, on August 18th, on the south side of Lake Worth, DBSO and three unmarked vehicles traveling in a caravan stopped the truck and detained both the driver and the passenger who had valid work permits, driver's license, and no deportation order. DBSO would detain someone, then house them until ICE comes to pick them up at gun clubs, but never put them in the system. Why is that? Why are community members not being booked and having their arrest affidavit posted in public records? It is so scary for their families to have a loved one missing. If this contract is up for renewal, every arrest made in the city of Lake Worth Beach should be filed properly just for public record safety. Thank you.

Hello, my name is Yuridia, address 1776 Lake Worth Road. Immigration enforcement is a big concern for me as a senior at Lake Worth High School. I disagree with giving PBSO more funding. It won't benefit as a whole I've had so many friends and family members from Lake Worth who were detained and deported by law enforcement. I'm afraid that the funding will be used to tear our families apart. Why not invest it into protection and safety for Lake Worth? PSO is supposed to be home for help, but now I'm too afraid to report a crime. My loved ones are afraid that if they call the police, they will become the ones behind the cop car. I stress at the thought of not having my parents when I graduate high school.

I'm crying knowing that there's a possibility my dad will be taken away from me.

He has spent countless days working under his son just to feed our family.

He's always made sure I had a ride to school and encourages me to focus in school. My dad is what motivates me in life for the fear of him. being taken away from me took me up and i i don't want my family taken away we want a safer community but even so makes it doesn't make it any safer i have plans to pursue higher education and i want to make sure my dad sees me graduate from college thank you

Good evening. Cashman Ruiz, 6 South J Street. I wanted to speak about the immense amount of money being allocated both to PBSO and by association, the uptick in installation of AOPR cameras. Now, outside of this room, I'm a security researcher, and I've read the works of other researchers as well as taken apart, and I'm appalled that this committee continues to support such a knowingly insecure system like Flock. And by... Funding an organization, PBSL, that now has been allocated $1.1 billion, with $975 million being taxpayer money, according to the budget, and that's negating the $45 million for presidential protection. There is no capital overlay on what is being used on, but we are 100% sure they're using at least north of $100,000 for leasing the cameras and using their Flock OS system. That doesn't include the cell tower simulators, like some people have mentioned. And they use 287G detainments, protests overall just to spy on us, as well as other tech and equipment for the police, as well as for deputized officers. Commissioner McVoy, two months ago, you were asking Captain Terrence Karn about ballpark estimates of how many stops were for ICE. Using community reports from just January 2025 to January 2026, I can say with certainty 400 reported stops ended in detainments by Deputy Sheriff and ICE in Lakewood Beach. This year so far, we have 600 known detainments in the city, and I can return once more and present that with more data at a later date. I was in charge for looking over footage of ISIS Day on Terror on August 18th, the day when three Florida Fish and Wildlife officers, several Border Patrol agents, and a van driven by Florida State Guard was seen driven erratically and speeding through red lights to investigate the community. They arrested an Afro-American man who was a citizen but was targeted by a known ICE agent in the community using plate detection databases that may have been Flock. Now, I'll leave you with this. Flawed cameras violate our Fourth Amendment right against surveillance, and they get around it by saying it's not continuous surveillance. But we learned that's not the case. In June, there was a Supreme Court case, Chachere v. U.S. If you're not okay with a private corporation being able to track every movement from the moment you leave your house to the moment you go home and store and view those photos by justifying it in the database with a test or investigating it, then vote no.

I have a statement from Father Frank.

I'm sorry, is your mic on, Mayor? No, I'm coming up. Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Mayor, Vice Mayor, and Commissioners for a cordial and flattering reception this evening. It was vitally important to hear our school board officer. For your consideration, she told that many of our working families dare not drive their children to school. The PBSO has abandoned its obligation to give our families safe access to schools. I have founded six educational functions for our littlest students. They have all prospered with parents for travel and safety. May Lake Worth Beach prioritize parents and children in demanding the share of safe access to our classrooms. Ms. Matterford, do you have some public comment?

Yes, Madam Mayor, I have nine.

Okay. I'm sorry. Anybody else have a blue card that they can call? Should we? Did I pass you over?

Peggy, I have one for you. Let me. Well, let me.

JoAnne Hanrahan, Not much happening. JoAnne Hanrahan, No.

I said in your meeting on August 18th, as you went through this contract for hours and provided numerous feedback on items, all five of you were sitting on the commission. I find it difficult to accept that at the beginning of this item there's all of a sudden a whole list of eight or nine more items to put into something that you discussed for hours the meeting went all the way until 11 o'clock um I support CBSO. You all came here to deal with this contract that you had dealt with at that meeting, that you had given the city attorney, Mr. Tresidia, instructions and who he had spent hours i assume or maybe more than a few hours working on the contract back and forth with the legal department of pbso so it's not something that has been just an hour here and we're going to move forward I think this is what you guys, Greg Richter said, this is what you came here to talk about, to approve, to decide whether you wanted to approve this contract. And you had opportunity, many hours of opportunity to give feedback to PBSO about what you wanted. and i encourage you to take care of the business that you came here to do so that we can move forward thank you thank you madam clerk okay jovanna dominguez timor 301 8th avenue north

Police departments across this country and across Florida do not have to enter into any agreement with ICE. It is a choice and it is an easy choice to reject any agreement with this current version of ICE as it has been shown to be nothing but a poorly trained crew tasked with focused stops and arrests that have repeatedly ignored every standard of proper police procedure that are clearly defined in our system of justice. Mayors and commissioners across the country have called out these abuses unanimously, but not our commission, except for a single commissioner. The rest vowed to write letters as residents while avoiding a joint statement citing disgust with what has been going on inside Lake Worth Beach to our friends and neighbors, some of whom may be undocumented and working toward residency status and eventual citizenship. We cannot know what it would be like to be suddenly sent to another part of the world without explanation. History is full of example of lives destroyed. We should not play a part in this chapter and should demand better of PBSO. They should be walking our parks, our business district and patrolling our neighborhoods with open windows so they can get to know us. They should be on bike patrol, mounted patrol and listening to our stories firsthand during slower hours of their shift. There are already civilian observers on patrol. We should not invest more money in so-called park rangers, but instead should demand that PBSO officers commit to community engagement during their assigned tour of duty. Any new contract should be limited to no more than two years in order to allow for an evaluation of their performance during this period. Our residents expect our commission to lead the way, not only in behalf of every resident's safety and quality of life, but responsibly with the budget we entrust to them. Sorry, I'm having to time some of these. Melissa Salerno, 501 South N Street. One thing this commission sure does seem to excel at is being absolutely, positively, consistently tone deaf. The heartbreaking irony of false proclamations of Hispanic Heritage Month here in a city where no Hispanic or POC feels safe while PBSO plays ice and destroys the lives of our community members. Proclaim all you want, but what we are painfully aware of is your inaction. FYI, hand-wringing and tisking does not count as action. Do not renew the PBSO contract unless they stop cooperating and participating with 287 . Marco Salerno, 1502 South Lakeside Drive. Lake Worth Beach City Commission use your leverage to demand PBSO stop participation in 287G agreements. Faith Halstead, 593 Stone Ridge Drive, Ponte Vedra Beach. Good evening. I'm a longtime Lake Worth resident. I've worked in mental health care and recovery in this community for over six years, and I care deeply about our safety and well-being. That's exactly why I'm asking you to reject this new 10-year, $15 million PBSO contract. This agency has carried out hundreds of immigration arrests while federal authorities escalate detention and deportation efforts. Signing a longer, larger contract with them is not a neutral choice. It's an expansion of harm already inflicted. Expanding our financial commitment to PBSO sends the wrong message about who this city protects. PBSO is not a substitute for social services. Armed law enforcement should not be the default response for poverty or homelessness. We need to invest in what actually works. Lake Worth Beach's dream team can connect people to mental health care, housing and support services. That's what makes our community safer, not more armed enforcement, more surveillance cameras and more license plate readers on our streets. Vote no on this contract, invest in care, not policing. Donna Kerner, 1012 North J Street. I understand that you are local elected officials and that you are not responsible for state or federal immigration policy. I'm not asking you to change state or federal law. I'm here tonight because of the city's contract with PBSO for local law enforcement services, a contract for which we spend more than half of the city's budget. That is a significant investment of our taxpayers money. And this commission has a responsibility and the authority to ensure that the contract serves the interest of all of the residents you represent. The question before you is not whether PBSO has obligations under state or federal law. The question is whether Lake Worth Beach must contractually finance or dedicate its local law enforcement resources to immigration enforcement activities and whether this commission should put reasonable guardrails around the use of these resources. Your constituents have been very vocal about the fear and harm caused by ICE and FHP raids. arrest and detention, and by the participation of PBSO. We recently learned that nine PBSO officers serving our community have been deputized under 287G as designated immigration officers, roughly 10% of our officers. That is a substantial allocation of local law enforcement capacity to federal immigration enforcement. I am asking you to put clear guardrails, accountability and transparency into this contract. First, protect due process and distinguish civil immigration violations from criminal conduct. Being undocumented is not by itself a criminal offense. To the maximum extent permitted by law, PBSO personnel assigned to Lake Worth Beach should not detain or arrest a person based solely on a civil immigration violation. Next is Erica Ash. One second. 1312 North Federal Highway. Do not sign the new 10-year agreement with the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office in my hometown of Lake Worth, Florida. Section 287G agreements that allow the police department to collude with ICE and DHS affirm what we already know. As a civilian population under police state violence know, as in Lake Worth with anywhere else in Florida, we are not protected by more police, nor more money for police, nor for their pals, the ops that call the police and ICE on our communities. The fact that Lake Worth is interested whatsoever in increasing police budgets to this extent Five PBSO park rangers added to police all 33 parks, including those who are currently considered, quote, unsheltered, as well as the increase to over upwards to over some $15 million amid raids and kidnappings of upwards 700 people. I consider my neighbors and family in this very city. is a clear showing that Lake Worth, Florida is interested in doing the job of Donald Trump for him. Just know none of us will ever respect you if this should go ahead and receive your second vote. Nathan King, 11538 63rd Lane North, West Palm Beach. I'd like to first say I am against the increased budget for PBSO. I feel that the concerns on the involvement of ICE with PBSO and the increased number of flock cameras in the area have not been properly addressed. These are not fringe conspiracies by a few residents, but valid and documented problems within this community. By not taking these concerns seriously, you betray the very people who trusted you to lead this city. Erin Allen, 208 South Lakeside Drive. I am pleased we are in the home stretch of approving the new PBSO contract for the city. I've lived here for 43 years and remember well the days when we had our own police department. Sadly, our department was unable to provide the services that were required of our residents. Since PBSO has come to town, things have been much better, and I can say I feel safer and more secure. I am looking forward to the hiring of five park rangers and think they will improve the quality of life of the residents in the overall picture. I wholeheartedly support this new contract and urge each of you to vote to move toward it, to move forward with it. I'm sorry. And the last comment on this item is Angelica Casarubias Barrios, 4194 Kirk Road, Lot 19, Lake Worth. I have a problem with PBSO working with ICE because of racially profile people for being illegal immigrants, even though they came here legally or are US citizens. No one should ever have a gun pointed at them, have to leave their child behind. I know there are people that have done bad things and need to go to jail for them, but there are some people who have not committed any crime, be treated worse because they are Hispanic, have brown skin, is an immigrant. Being an immigrant does not make you a monster, bad person, or criminal. The only thing saving me from being detained by ICE is being a US citizen, speaking English, being lighter skinned than my family. Without that, I am a criminal. That's the last comment on this item, Madam Mayor.

Thank you. We have a motion and a second. I think it's time to call the call. Did I see your lights on, Mr. McFoy? I think we've spoken about this as long as we can. It's almost 10 o'clock. It's almost 11 o'clock and we have a long way to go. So I'm going to call the vote. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Mr. 3-1, it passes. Thank you.

Madam Mayor, can I propose that we do new business C next, the selection or the auditor?

I was going to look at something like that because it is now

yeah madam mayor just just on that last motion i passed when you made that motion did it include the a from the first one this one today no no i made it as was written and i was written and redlined yes okay thank you okay certainly so if we could do new business c then a oh maybe

Which is city auditor and then the budget amendment to get those two done hopefully before 1045.

Okay, we have a motion and do we have a motion to change it? Do we have a second?

What's the promotion to do new business C followed by new business A?

new business c then a then call it a night yeah we'll get to whatever we can get to after yeah that's fine okay okay second motion is second by miss uh motion by mr segwitch is second by miss may um okay so selection of the city in do we have to yeah we have to vote All in favor? Aye. Okay. Thank you.

Just keep the rules.

Yeah, that's probably a good idea. Why not? Okay. So I was a little concerned when I saw the agenda item with nothing in it. I believe we were asked to provide our first, second, and third choices. I have done that. think we just need to rank them and vote sorry I think we just need to rank them and vote well we would have no all right um this is for something else let me see if I can find the comments let's start there uh I don't think we have any well Peggy Fisher I just saw your no that's no that's PBS I we apologize but you did get to speak okay okay um okay yeah we don't have any public comment on this right we have three um applicants for our and we've all interviewed them uh singly so if i would like to i mean somebody wants to take take notes on this one so do you want to do it how we've done it before with three points two points one point Sure. Yeah, just very simply, first, second, and third.

Okay.

Do you want to give them points? No, let's just do my first, my second, my third. So first choice, second choice, third choice. But how are you going to tell who's the winner? Because we'll find out if it goes to that. If there's a tie or there's something. Somebody will win. If they don't, we'll go to an alternate. So I would... You're the mayor. How do you want it? Who do you want to go first? Okay, so... let's start with um Mr McVoy and is somebody keeping notes on this I am okay well I'm looking to someone who's not involved in the vote I'm looking to our HR person or our city attorney okay so uh let's give her a minute to come up with paper and pencil or maybe a comment uh no i've got paper and pencil but i wasn't what did we decide we're gonna do we're just gonna like first first choice second choice there we're all gonna go through and if there's a tie we'll figure that one out okay okay mr mcboy

I'm seeing Penn's still working, so I'll give him a minute. You're good? I'm good. All right. My first choice, quite strongly, was Susan Collins. My second choice was Michelle Jones. And my third choice was...

Her name was Michelle Branch.

All I got here is Joan. No?

Okay, I apologize.

I mean, it might be, but I'm reading what I got.

I'm so sorry.

And my third was Cheryl Hale, who I would not recommend.

uh my first was Susan Collins my second was Cheryl Hale and my third was Michelle Jones first was Cheryl Hale second was Michelle Jones third was Susan Collins

my first was michelle jones my second was susan collins hold on hold on i'm sorry i'm sorry okay i'm sorry i'm listening okay uh my first was michelle jones my second was susan collins and my third was cheryl

And then I have Commissioner Moralegas. She had Cheryl Hale first. She had Susan Collins second. And she had Michelle Jones third. So...

Anybody that got more than... Susan has two firsts and two seconds as well.

Mm-hmm. Michelle Jones only has one first.

And two lasts. So I would say Michelle Jones is out.

Okay.

So the next one with the most votes is Susan versus Cheryl.

Yes. Susan got two ones, two twos, and a three. Hale got two ones, two threes, and a two. So it looks like Susan Collins is a little bit higher.

all right there you go okay it's on yay i have some i'm sorry commissioner are you speaking commissioner mcvoy no betty i had you say michelle jones number one cheryl hale number two three no betty's cheryl michelle susan cheryl okay

Susan Collins, it is?

Yay! Okay. Make a motion to hire Susan Collins. Second. All in favor? Aye.

Okay, thank you very much.

Okay, now we're going to go to... Can we do the North Cape? yeah that shouldn't take that long okay let's move it okay and what's our deal we planned right at 11 if this was i'm sorry who was the seconder for that mr mr mcvoy thank you okay we're rearranging a little bit because of that well he wanted to do a next if that's fine yeah we need to do it and madam mayor vaughn is um is on zoom okay

for this item motion to approve do I have a second second all in favor aye aye all right thank you Vaughn go back to your baby life um okay so resolution of budget this is a

um wait hold on that's turf we cannot get into that no wait wasn't that new business eight that was new yeah there was new business a the 12th budget amendment was passed the selection of the city internal order has been done i make a motion that we deal with the consideration of deed restrictions second yeah and we do have a public comment for that

We have a couple of them online as well. So second, a motion and a second to make to do next restriction. All in favor? Aye.

And I'm going to make a motion to not, I don't remember how it goes.

Let's open the book. Let's see what the book says. I'm in favor with that as well.

Motion to enforce the restriction. Motion to enforce the deed restriction.

motion to enforce a repeat restriction do i have a second second okay we have public comment um manual rojas but i'm i'm i'm the buyer well okay uh you can leave two minutes okay very quick thank you oops you're the one that wants to buy it yes well why just buy it everyone what do you need

Okay, yes, thank you to give me the chance, Major. Yes, basically, I'm planning to buy this property.

First, I have to say your name.

Okay, so this is 628 North K Street. And your name is? Manuel. You live at 628 North K Street? Oh, no, no, no.

And where do you live?

What's your address? 5786 Northwest 48 Coral Springs. Thank you. Okay. So, yes, I'm planning to buy this property, but in the deed, there's some restriction that it has to be built. The first owner, he bought it in 2015. and with some restriction because the city sold it to the owner. Actually, it was in the past. So when I came across with this property to buy it, I found this restriction. So I'm asking you guys, mayor, vice mayor, and commissioners to remove the restriction. So basically, I'm going to do a presentation. My name is Manuel. I came here to the city of Leyward. I fell in love with this city. so i started the first my first project was 203 north east street i built this property in 2000 2000 2019 and uh well i sold it and then i found this other property uh at the historic district i fell in love with the historic district at 711 north l street um this is a duplex one facing the front and one facing the back So this one, it was accomplished in 2022. This one. And then I got awarded by the historic district in 2023. And then I found this other property in the intersection of the corner of the Fifth Avenue and K Street. So this is going to be my future house. I build my house here in the future. I'm going to move here. This is a duplex again, 1,500 square feet. This is going to be my primary house in the future. And there is a little cottage at the back, which is 750. Thank you. I got awarded, and then I'm doing another project. So it's definitely proven.

Thank you.

OK. Thank you.

Madam Clerk, you have a public comment?

Yes, Madam Mayor, I do have one public comment. Richard Mahler, 1767 15th Avenue North. I support the City Commission enforcing the terms of the original RFP and deed restriction for 628 North K Street. This is simple. The property was purchased with clear obligations to obtain construction permits within 12 months and complete construction within 24 months. Those deadlines passed years ago and the property was never improved. The deed restriction provides the city with a clear remedy when the terms of the RFP are not met. 30 days written notice requiring the property to be returned to the city at no cost to the city. At the core of the issue, it remains concerning that it has taken this long for the issue to come before the commission. I believe the commission should exercise the provision requiring the land to be conveyed back to the city. The owner should not be able to make a significant profit selling the land without restriction simply by sitting on the parcels for nearly 10 years while it remained unimproved and contributed to blight in the surrounding neighborhood. We should not make an exception here or set aside the terms of the original agreement. um that's the that's the comment on this item but um madam mayor and commissioners i want to remind you it is now 10 48 according to your rules we can finish this item no further items may be taken up but you can have commission liaison reports city manager report city attorney report all of which are three minutes Well, it would be three minutes per commissioner for commission reports, three minutes for the city manager, three minutes for the city manager.

I don't remember, unless there's something special about it being 11 o'clock, we've never had a three minute, I mean, I don't mind it.

Yes, so that's in the rules that were the most recent version was you could take up the, nothing could be taken up after 1045. Right. But So you can finish this item, no other items on the agenda. Each commissioner will have three minutes during commissioner liaison reports, city manager will have three minutes, city attorney will have three minutes, and then the mayor adjourns the meeting.

Okay, so that's special to this 11 o'clock deal. That's why it's three minutes, correct?

Correct.