City Commission - workshop

I don't want to see Mr. Segridge.

No, I haven't seen him either. Okay. I don't want to see Mr. Segridge. Um, okay. Um, Mayor, Madam, Vice Mayor.

Yes.

It's 3 minutes past 9 o'clock in the afternoon. It's our own time. I'll start. You'll be able to help me.

Welcome to Agenda Yogam on August 26, 2021. May I call you?

Mayor Betty Rash.

I'm here.

Vice Mayor Mimimi. I'm here. Yes, I forgot the name of the former vice mayor. Commissioner Sarah Malika. I'm here. Commissioner Christopher McCoy.

It is here, but it is on the way to the Treasure Coast Regional Planning Meeting, which is 30 minutes after 9 pm.

Okay, okay. Also, I haven't seen Commissioner Antony Sej yet. I'll take care of him. Thank you very much. Oh, okay.

Since I don't have any papers with me, I've asked Ms. Mayor to take me to yoga. So, Ms. Mimi, would you like to take me to yoga? Of course. I'd be very happy to take you to yoga. Oh. You're such a person. I know. It's me. I'm a good help.

Vice Mayor, your camera isn't on. I don't know if you took care of it. Oh. Wait a minute.

That's why they came.

Okay, I didn't pay attention. Okay. Um, let's see. We have a yoga on Wednesday. Um, let's first look at utility things. So, let's look at things related to utilities. Um, I think Jason and Vaan are there. Um, Jason, do you need anything from you to explain things related to electric utilities?

You can... Um, no, Mr. Liberty's update. Another thing is the Electric Utility Easement. That's in the agreement. Um, you can accept that.

That's all there is to it. Okay, I think that's very easy. Um, Ms. Baker, is there anything that needs to be explained before Thursday? There's nothing special, but if you have any doubts, I'd be happy to reply. Um, can you tell me one thing about the outfall reconstruction? Just two seconds. Yes. So I believe this is a matter that will make a grand career. Um, on the 9th Avenue South, between two houses, there is a stormwater outfall made of corrugated metal. It is damaged. Since this is a way for the public to travel, we see this as a disaster. We don't want anyone to be hit by corrugated metal. Also, this is full of sand. Approximately two years ago, I was able to apply for funding through the Lagoon Initiative. We have requested to rebuild the outfall and to build a living shoreline with new facilities. This will help to purify the water, increase the beauty of the area and improve the air quality. Also, since the old metal trash cans in the downtown area always disappear as the Malinians reach the stormwater system, a Lagoon Initiative was proposed to fund the Public Works Department to buy concrete trash cans. Therefore, these two projects have no great relationship with each other. Public Works has already bought those trash cans. With this grant, they will get a refund. Our project is currently in the design phase. Therefore, we would like to complete it quickly. Okay, thank you. Does anyone in the commission have any questions about this? I have a special question to ask Ms. Baker. Okay, wait a minute. Before we go to that, does anyone have anything special to ask about this? Okay, let's continue.

Thank you. Do you have any update about the disaster in South Palm Park? Yes, I do. I have a request about it. It was stopped suddenly.

Yes, about the disaster in Malinajala. I have an important update about it. What is it? When we set up flowmetering facilities in the city, as we discussed earlier, the design and construction of this will take place first. We found problems in the large gravity mains or gravity interceptors that collect all the water from the TEC area in London. There is a part of the pipe that comes from Padinyaran on TEC 15 number road and 6 number road. One-fourth of the pipe was filled with thick sand. The years of hard work had turned into thick sand. We thought it would not be able to survive until the Lantana Falls were removed. But a company, Holtz Consulting, one of our senior engineers, has given a proposal to do this cleaning work. It costs a lot. We are still discussing the proposal, but it will be more than $4 million. This will be a two-week night job using two heavy-duty cleaning trucks. Not only does he clean the pipes using the necessary materials, he also changes them to Maliniya Samskarana Plant. As I said, the work on Monday night. I have been waiting for this to be completed with great anticipation and excitement, because I think that if we can take back one-fourth of what was left in the pipe, we can greatly reduce the number of backups and breakdowns in the state. Therefore, after receiving this instruction on Wednesday, I am trying to implement this in our September 15 agenda. This is the most important agenda we have achieved. Thus, we can start working using the 26-year financial fund in the Sub-Regional Malinajala Fund. Because we can make a lot of progress within two weeks. I have a great desire to start working. That would be very good. Thank you very much. Yes, that's my update. If the cleaning is complete, we can install the flowmetering devices that were not able to be installed before. It seems that we had prepared four manholes for consulting engineers to use as metering points. If my memory is correct, the amount of holes in the pipe is very large, so two of them cannot be installed. That's why this is a small short film now, but it will be a good example. After that, we can complete this film and move forward in design and construction. So, we have added a short film to this format. We hope it will have a quick effect. Wonderful. Thank you. Of course. So, pay attention to it on 15th September. I liked it.

Then? Yes, I don't have a way to raise my hand, but I have a question.

Go ahead and ask. Sure. Okay, thank you.

I'll answer that. I have a question for Vaughan. This is the sanitary sewage system. Do you have any idea how the soil reached the system at this level? That is, it doesn't have to be soil.

That is a necessity. In sanitary sewage, we call this grit, grit. So, apart from cleaning, there is also an instruction that we received to clean the pipes to check the condition of the pipes. So, if there are any joint dents or problems that cause sand to pass through the pipes, we will be able to fix it. Yes, but it is actually just a solid need. Okay.

So, if anything breaks in the pipe, it can be from outside, but it can't come from the storm sievers.

Yes, it definitely comes from the storm sievers.

Okay, okay, okay. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you for working on this. If you get 25% growth in the future, it will be very good. What I have to say is that 4 lakhs is not a small amount, but in such a big pipe, it is a great achievement. Even though this is being completed, as I said, I am very eager to see the results soon.

Isn't it? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And anything else? Water or food? Okay, good. Let's talk about community health. We have three things. Actually, I think there are two. What happened to TERF? Sara, I saw you raise your hand. Let me ask you what happened to TERF first. Um. Um, Madam Vice Mayor. Yes, it has been moved to September 1. I can understand that. Why do you ask me? We decided to postpone the next meeting to the 25th instead of the 1st because we were instructed to change things and avoid what happened on Wednesday. Okay. Thank you.

Thank you. I understand that it is only a week late. But what happened to the 628 North K Street meeting? The same thing has been moved to September 1.

Okay, because when I looked at the agenda, I didn't see it on September 1st.

Yes, so we moved 3 things to the 1st date and 4 things to the 25th date. Okay, but can you make sure? Because there is no information on the 1st date online.

Nothing is online on the 1st date.

No. So, it has to come out, right? It has to come out, right? The first date is next week. It has to come. No. The first date.

From now. No.

The first date is next week. So, it will come out 11 days before the September 1st agenda meeting. Okay. So, please. It will be available within 5 hours today.

Please make sure that it is included. I don't want it. Thank you. I have changed it to this. Thank you. Okay. So, we have turf. This is South K Street.

Then, what was the third item? July 4th news. Oh, that's right. Right. Yes, right. No problem. Um, right. So, let's talk. Um, is William here?

Yes.

Oh, you're there. Hello, William.

Superbadam, Mayor, Commissioners.

Superbadam. Um. William, can you tell us about the changes that are about to come? That is, let's take a look.

Hresvakala rents. Yes, we can start from Hresvakala rents. So what changes are there for the residents and for the ordinance? That is, what are the changes? This is in accordance with the law of the state that you must ensure that all residential apartments in the city are the same as they were a year ago. When we brought it, it took more time than expected to make it clear. Because we have various types of residential units, they should all be arranged in the same way according to the state's residential apartment arrangements. Therefore, it took a lot of time for the residents and the law enforcement to come together. Because some of the things brought in in 2013 were not in accordance with the housing units in our state. So, they made sure that nothing was left behind and that everything was the same. Now, if you pass this ordinance, it will be clear to everyone that in any city with a housing unit, housing and temporary housing are legal.

Okay. I have a question about that. After that, I will ask others. But I saw. Do you remember what we said when the person from Delhi wanted to build 250 square micro units? I thought we said no to that. I saw him in that. Yes, we said.

But they weren't micro-units. He was the one who called them that. Micro-units are personal living units with bathrooms and kitchens. They're just small. The single-room occupancy facility he suggested was a communal residence. Each person will have to share their bedroom and other facilities and kitchens. That's not in our laws. We don't allow that.

But that's what Layerts Place did, right? They built micro-units. Each micro-unit has a complete kitchen and bathroom. They also have places for general use. Thank you for making it clear. Understood. That is, we got a share. If there is a kitchen or bathroom, we won't allow it.

If you have your own rooms, we do not allow you to share your facilities. All of our PARP units are required to have a kitchen and a bathroom. In addition, a residence is also required according to the reduced housing laws. In a micro-unit project that requires at least 10 units, community kitchens, residences, greenhouses, and libraries can be shared facilities, right? But each unit in that project must comply with all our rules for a unit of a park.

They are all separate units of a park, not residents of a house. That's right. Yes.

According to our micro-unit ordinance, each micro-unit must have a specific meter. That's right. Okay. Okay. I had a little doubt about that.

I wish Antony was here. Because I know he has questions about this. That's why. Yes. But I don't know what he is. That's why. When I get time, I have a question to ask.

If it's about the Hrishwatha's job. Yes. Okay. Continue.

This is a question to William.

I understand that our laws should be in line with the current constitutional laws and that our laws should be in line with the laws of all kinds of poverty. Then we have our own institutions. My question in that context is this. Will we be able to continue with a state law and other laws in a situation where the law was passed in 2011 and the law was passed in 2010? Will we be able to make such a decision legally? You are asking a legal question. I do not want to act as an interpreter. However, there are two parts to this answer. About six years ago, we launched a pilot project in one part of the city to test the quality of housing. It was completed by us. Yes, it is not a permissible law according to the constitution. This is a general law. You may or may not be allowed to do anything. This is my question. Do we still have the opportunity to move forward as per our 2010 law? Is that a legal way? Since you used the word legal, I will ask Elizabeth. But I don't think so. We decided not to do it. What I have to say is we. That's not my question. I understand. But I'm saying. Yes, you asked your question. Yes, Miss Elizabeth. Superb. Um, Appol.

In my opinion, the answer would be the same. You have that option to maintain your monthly salary and to continue. I would like to say that if you try to maintain your monthly salary and implement it, there may be some problems, and if there are regulations related to it, it may be returned to the city. Therefore, the recommendations of the Commission, I think it is better to make these changes based on the rate of the monthly rate. Okay.

To make sure that I am in the right mind, will we have the option to continue the protest against the state laws and other regulations within the government? However, we know that there is a possibility of cases related to that. The basis of the argument is that you have not implemented it for a long time. Yes, it is in the law, but you have not implemented it. Therefore, you do not have such a law or any similar argument. Therefore, we can win, we can lose. Is this the correct description of the situation? I do not know exactly what arguments will be raised, but you If you start making it a rule, there will be legal problems. Yes, if there is a legal problem, the possibility of it failing will always remain. Therefore, it is more important to investigate whether we will definitely fail or whether there is a possibility of winning or losing. I don't expect a quick answer to that. I don't think that's fair. But I had to know, What are the options we have? What are our legal restrictions regarding this? We still feel that we have that option. I don't think we have that option after we take action and vote as a body.

Yes, why is that?

That's not my question. Yes, we understood your question, Mr. McCoy. We understood your question. After spending a lot of time on this, we are now wondering why we are doing this. This is a pleasant question, but I don't know if we can move forward with this answer. If we decide on one thing, what is the rule about how long we should wait for it to come back? Six months. Okay, I know what you need and what kind of thing it is. I know that the law department and the people tried very hard to get this to you as soon as possible. Since there is no quorum on the planning and zoning board, I think it will take at least a month. Is that right, Elizabeth? I know that there was a problem in the LDR and that there was a quarrel. According to this, they both voted in unison. Both the quasi-judicial boards voted in unison to bring this forward. So let's move on to the discussion on this. I have a question about this. Do you think we accept this? Then my question is, How can we ensure and finance the long-term income of our businesses? How does it work? Ok, we believe that either the long-term income or the long-term income is our responsibility. Most of them have a residential business license, and there is a restriction that they cannot rent for a period of 60 days. That was our transit lodging requirement, and it was reduced to 30 days to comply with local laws. We know that everyone can now add the restriction that they can rent for a period of 60 days in a business license, but they will not get much money. Just like I said earlier, they have to plan for single-family residential areas. They can't afford the utility bills they have to pay. They can't afford the special fees or tests we don't do for things with a long-term residential business license. Okay, so it's like renting a house for a family for a year, right? Yes, okay.

There is only one difference. There is a long-term lease on the land, and it is in the district. Do we get anything from this? I know this is a question, but... I believe that money is used for tourism.

So, in a way, you are getting it, but not directly. Okay. Sara, if not, please forgive me. Commissioner Malika. Thank you. You don't have to speak in an official way.

For the past two years, I have spoken to many other cities about how they are handling this. Since this is a business, I don't understand why we should make them waste water, electricity, and garbage. They should be forgiven. That is not true.

This change has been made in at least seven cities in Florida. Because this is a business, they are spending more on local facilities. Local facilities are very important. It is not like renting a house or a family for 12 months. Sometimes 15 people will be there, sometimes 5 people will be there. This is an illegal thing. So I think we should investigate this. If you are renting a house for a short time, you are running a business, and you are reducing the cost of water and malini in the future. So you have to count yourself as a business.

But how does it differ from a normal house? Sara, in my opinion, it should be the same for a normal house. I reduce everything from the rent. I reduce everything that I pay from the rent. But those who take a normal house pay for the water and the toilet and the Malayalam culture. I am a housekeeper. I don't pay for my tenants' medical bills. But I pay for an ADU, EDU, or short-term house. That's a good point.

That's why they are two different worlds. When there are regular tenants, they take utilities in their own name. They are responsible for their bills. In short-term housing, everything is in the name of the housekeeper. They pay for the bills and reduce the expenses of the business.

I would like to ask my colleagues to investigate this with the Department of Law. To investigate the other cities that can be given to Miss Malika. And, Is there any way to determine the status of the state to calculate all rents in the same way? We have special laws on businesses. My argument is that they are different businesses from other businesses, or that they are different from other types of businesses. We have the right to count them as businesses, right? Shall we seek the permission of my co-workers to inquire a little more about this with the Law Department?

If it is a hotel, people don't pay for it. They are businessmen. We see hotels as private buildings. Yes, they are private buildings. I don't think it will be different from this. Me, me. I don't know who pays for the utilities, but I'm talking to Mr. McFly. I want them to investigate it. Can you investigate it, Elizabeth?

We can definitely do it. Commissioner Malika, if you name some of the cities you spoke about, it will be very helpful in the beginning. Thank you.

Yes, that's right. Miss William, please forgive me again. We have a lot of winter and autumn vacations in between. Sometimes the snowbirds stay here for only 7 months and in the rest of the time they vacate the winter season. So, if we accept anything legally, we have to find a way for the vacations in between. Because when the snowbirds come back and stay in their house, it is not a private property at that time. Of course.

I have two questions about invitations. I don't understand how to use this. No, this is for the Christmas holidays. Two invitations about guest houses, Mr.

Waters. Let me say it again, it's not in front of me. Is it below the Christmas holiday? Okay, okay, two questions. When is the invitation? When I hear the invitation of the guest house, it feels like a house opening. Like a group of people who need more space in the house. It should not stand separately. It should not. Then what is a guest house that does not include another bedroom and bathroom in my house? It can be like that, or it can be a special building with a bed room or a living room in your corner. It does not have the facilities to convert a living room into a unit. I thought it should be a house. Am I wrong?

According to our rules, a guest house is a small building in the development of a house where a large family or two families can live. The building you have added to your house is part of the house. Okay. The main part of your house. I may have read it wrong.

But I thought it should be a building for a group. Okay. Yes. It can be like that.

Since William says he can't pay the rent for this, can we add that there are not so many facilities in this?

In the end, a guest house becomes an accessory dwelling unit and should not be used. Isn't it? For that, we have a clear definition, that is, a place with complete facilities and bathrooms. Okay, okay. I'll read that too. Thank you. That's all I have to say.

Thank you.

Yes, that is, the third part of my garage is a bedroom and bathroom, but since there is no kitchen, you cannot rent it. So, I can imagine this room as a guest house.

Ms. Elizabeth is raising her hand.

Yes. Please begin, Ms. Lahan. Since Commissioner Sigri is not here, he asked some questions. Since he has emailed those questions, I would like to inform you that I and William have emailed all of you five minutes before this meeting starts. So, you will have received those questions and emails. Thank you. Thank you. In your email. Okay. Good.

Um, right. Let's move on. Um, right. Hey, stop. Can I ask you a question? I know that there are still people who accept this. I'm still talking about the SPR game. There are still people who are afraid of changing their nature or reducing the rents in the city due to short-term rentals. Can anyone respond to this argument? Is this true? This is true, isn't it? This is proven, isn't it? That is, I don't know.

Looking at it from the point of view of worship, it is a very honorable monument, especially in Florida, because there are no restrictions here on how many residential houses are needed on a street or on a hillside. There are some studies that show that because such properties are turned into temporary properties, the income of ordinary houses is reduced. I think it is difficult to get the actual numbers, but many places have raised the expectation that they are excluding houses from the budget. The reason is that the income from residential housing increases the cost of ordinary items. Mayor and I have experienced this many times. The reason for selling some houses for more than the average price in that part of the city is that they intended to use residential housing as residential housing. That has become a big problem. In the West Palm Beach, where I live, I see that the number of residential housing houses is decreasing. Lake Worth is different from the beach in terms of the price, but there was a big increase there. I think there was a lot more there than what the airport could afford. That's why some of them are now returning to the airport and moving back to normal houses. Or big companies are renovating it and making it a luxury villa. Yes, I felt the same way.

I don't know how to say that word. Adina. Very good. Okay. During Covid, these rental houses were a big problem. Now the financial situation has changed. That is, the supply and demand have changed their value. Then it is also important to pay attention to how much money they are getting to make it profitable. Because it is a big job. Cleaning the house every week and letting new people live is a bigger task than renting a house for a year. Okay, let's go to 1900. We need to talk about 1900. We need to talk. Excuse me, Vice Mayor. Commissioner Segridge is here. He has raised his hand. Oh, I didn't see him. I'm sorry. Mr. Segridge, start. Where are you? He's there. He's there. Can we get the camera? Yes. One minute. It's ready.

He's there. I'm sorry. Um. For me, this is all I have to say on this matter. As William said, their prices have dropped. The reason for this is that property tax and insurance have increased, so they are not profitable. Therefore, there are more than 100 houses in Vibani that sell to ordinary tenants or to single-family homes. And the other one, saying that the houses that are in poor condition are being destroyed, are not the units that are going to be used for rent in the future. Isn't it? We can't do anything about that either. That is, the unit next to us, which is 9080 feet wide, If it is a regular rental, someone will have to pay more than $5,000 per month. It is not a thing that can be held. That is, that.

I will say, when I see a studio apartment in downtown, a bedroom and a small kitchen are in the same room. $1,600 plus $195. That's $1,800 a month. That's an illusion. That's why there are no houses that can afford it now. The other one is only below 1% of the total cost. So, how are you?

Generally, yes, it is below 1% of the total cost. How do you feel that 1% of the total cost is controlling the cost? Can I say something? Not now.

Okay, stop, Christopher. I didn't see you raise your hand. But I know you want to talk. Mr. Segg, please finish your speech.

I only had this much to say in that speech. I don't know if you noticed this in the vacation rental ordinance or in the holiday rental ordinance, but there are substantial changes in the provision of micro-units. Yes, we talked about it. He said it's not there. It wasn't there. No, it was there. Why do you need that red line that says you don't need a kitchen or a bedroom? There were changes, Mimi.

Oh, this is changing things. I thought you just said that you need a kitchen and a bedroom for the micro-units. William.

Avakund. That's an exaggeration. Staff and Elizabeth spent a lot of time to make it clear. There should definitely be a kitchen and a bathroom for the micro unit. The special part of the code is different. All the industrial standards for the micro unit are mentioned in it. For example, each one needs a special meter. No, you should have at least ten less units in the shared space. It should have a kitchen and a bathroom like a carpet unit. That's the special part of the code about industrial standards. A unit for a park has been approved to have a kitchen and a bathroom. Will we get a share of those special parts? Of course! Of course! The approval of a unit for a park is in line 89 of the ordinance in front of you. Then my other question is, why are we increasing the number of boarding houses in the use table?

No.

Now, boarding houses are allowed in all districts. If you are only doing residential projects in highly mixed-use districts, it refers you to Multifamily 40, 30, and 20 special Multifamily districts. Their boarding houses are allowed. Therefore, she has been included in the permitted use table, because she is a part of the independent multi-family zoning district. I have always heard that if it is not in the use table, it is not permissible. That is correct, but if you are only doing a residential project in a multi-downdown, the court will direct you to the MF40 zoning district. According to MF40, boarding houses are allowed. Finally, we would like to know if it is possible for the staff to control the number of vacancies and vacancies within the certified recovery homes. We are somewhat aware of this, but we have received a lot of letters from Elizabeth, FAR, FAR, etc. This year, I will be in about 15 states. This clearly describes a public place for people with similar problems. I don't remember the exact use of it. Maybe Elizabeth remembers, or I can inform you by asking the staff before the end of the day. But, one reason. Do you have a site for that? Excuse me. Do you have a site to investigate that? Florida Statutes. The exact Florida Statute is not in front of me. Okay. Um. These are a lot of statutes. Yes. Um. One stop. But there are interesting buildings in this. That too. Mayor, this is 397.487. That is, section 397, section 487, then that. I think it is 14. Yes, it is 14. Good. Thank you. And I think this is an opportunity. I hope we don't lose this opportunity. The government is interested in stopping us from doing things like this. And if this opportunity has been opened, I think we should use it before it is closed. Sounds good. Let's all look at this issue.

Um, I want to go back to the micro-unit thing. Because it's just because it's a residence. It doesn't have to be a special unit. That's right. A residence is not like that.

A micro-unit can only be a micro-unit if it is a residential area. A residential area is a self-sufficient, independent residential area. It provides regular facilities. This is what has been added to the kitchen facilities to sleep, eat, and cook, and is also used as a residential area for only one family. Any residential area can be a rental house.

Okay, then you can't call a microunit as a residence. But that's a residence.

That's a residence.

It's a residence with a single family. You... What you just said is that there are no fully functioning rooms in a microunit.

So it's not a residence. If a microunit is a residence, then it can only be a microunit.

Then it's not a residence. But a residence needs fully functioning rooms. But you've cut it off as fully functioning rooms. Okay. Read the description of the micro unit. A small residence. Stop there. What is a residence? If you go to line 89, you will see it there. A residence is an independent residence. Therefore, according to the description here, a micro unit residence or it will not be a micro unit. But if there are no fully functioning kitchens and bathrooms, it will not be a residence.

Correct. That's the thing. Then you are talking to yourself. No.

What I think is that one of the things we tried to do when we passed through this is to ensure that all the facilities are in Tamil Yojip, instead of using different materials for each. So, if we had included all the things that should be there in the micro-unit facility, we tried to make it similar to other facilities. So, it's not a residential unit with a kitchen. It is a residential unit. There should be a kitchen and other things for it. Oh, I got it. Then there should be a kitchen for the micro unit. That's right.

That's why you are removing that line not because it is not needed. You are removing that line because it is not needed. That's right. Thank you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Christopher, do you want to say what you wanted to say earlier?

It's not related to the Christmas holiday, but I'm worried about the time. Because my meeting is getting late. Yes, we left at 9.05 PM. A big part of it was closed. Okay. When Antony was talking about the Christmas holiday, you said you had something to add.

Do you want that now?

Oh yes, that was a question. That is an important question. William pointed out some of them in it. Do greenhouses increase the prices of houses? The answer from the observations is yes, because if a house can be used for greenhouses, it can be sold at a higher price. It is a reason to increase the prices of houses. The fact that it is only a percentage is not a problem here. We know that if some units are left out at a higher price, it will affect others around it. That is, it can also be done arbitrarily. So, when we move forward, we must make it clear that we know that we have the possibility of not allowing it. We have spent a lot of money to learn about this. I will need to ask my co-workers about it again. Also, other studies are making this clear. Thank you. Okay, let's move on. Mr. Waters raised his hand.

I know, but he put it down. I put it down. Not that, that.

Let's see. What else is here? 1900.

Mr. Malika. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I visited that place and talked to many people. Some of the wishes were in Mr. Perry's mind. One of them was that our Vanitha customer service workers working in the trailer had some unprotected experiences. People came inside the trailer to use the toilets and to charge their phones. Because of the anger that the doctor had expressed, one of them passed away in a very aggressive manner. So, I asked Mr. Perry to keep a dummy car outside the trailer or to patrol those people who had to continue in the trailer until the next year. Another requirement is to include Spanish and Creole QR codes on the boards outside the trailer. The information about the ways to connect during operation is now only available in English. Another thing is that the planning department is moving back to their offices, but they are moving to old, dusty carpets. They are not satisfied with that. The planning department had made it clear that carpets were needed in their offices, but the way it is given to others, they are forced to postpone the project and continue it in the trailer itself. This is a small mistake. Everyone has to get a clean workplace. The carpets in the CET hall have been removed after Covid. Everyone should be aware of this. Mr. Perry has announced that he will move it to his office. Mr. Perry has announced that he will move it to his office. Mr. Perry has announced that he will move it to his office. Mr. Perry has announced that he will move it to his office. Okay. Mr. Perry, do you have anything to add to this? We have received an email about the carpet. So, we don't have anything to say about it. But what do you have to say about the other plans related to the safety of the survivors?

Yes, I am working with the Sheriff's Department to fulfill those plans. They had a student. So, we are working with them. I think we can fulfill some of them as soon as possible. In that,

Do you remember when we were talking about the Law on the Security of the Library? Yes, I do. I think so, too. And because we didn't get a good word for a small part of it, can we do something like a security office for the entire building in the building? Me!

One of the things we did for the library was to appoint a security officer. What we did was, the sheriff's office helped us. We set up a small place for them to make reports, and I understood that it helped to reduce the problems in the library, because they were coming in between. The sheriff's office officer wrote reports there, or did anything necessary. So, Before that happens, I think,

Before that, I think it happened somehow. But before that happened, we provided funds to the library specifically for the regulation of the security office. That's why they didn't do it. But it was an option. Is 1900 an option? It's one that we can calculate.

So, as I said, we can investigate it. Okay.

My intention is that if we have to give money to our employees for hours, I think it will be a big waste. It will be a big waste. Then, I didn't need an employee. I needed a dummy car or a P.B.S.O. to come and investigate them every day. We have nine women working in a trailer without security. Then, okay, that's why I'm trying to get them security.

Right? But I'm not saying that a 24 by 7 employee should be there. They want someone to come and check them out. Or they want a dummy car. They, you know, are asking a PBS or Citizens on patrol unit to stop there. And also, there's one more thing that women in the office need. No parking, no boards in front of the trailer. People who come to ask for bills or doubts, they say that the vehicles stop at the driveways where utility trucks come and go.

I stopped there because I didn't know that they were not allowed to park there. They had to come out and tell me where to go. Yes, I am asking you. That's why they needed to put up signs against parking temporarily under that bridge.

This is an important discussion, but I would like to agree with the main point I mentioned in the beginning before making a call.

Okay, everyone will make a call in about 4 minutes. Mr. McCoy. Okay, can you hear me?

Quickly. Okay. We spoke about the P.B.S.O. Accord on Wednesday. We have not yet received a statement from Rega about the P.B.S.O. Accord. Taking into account the importance of this document, the cost and the cost of the property, I urge you to move this to the next meeting without including it in the agenda on 25 August. I think it is necessary to investigate what we actually belong to and to make it common for the public to see. So, I need my co-workers to transfer this to the meeting after September 1. Okay, thank you. I don't want to transfer this.

I don't know what happened to the rest of you. Did we get the request for changes last week? Yes, I did. It's this day.

I saw the email, but I didn't see it. I didn't see it. We got it, but we didn't get a response from PBSO. So, the problems haven't been solved completely. Troy, is PBSO working with you? They are still investigating some changes, but there will be a reminder. There was an estimate for body cameras. Yesterday, I believe you all got an estimate for it. We need to discuss that further. I need to contact you to know the opinions of each and every one of you. I had rejected it. Forgive me. My question is this. If an ordinary officer is getting a body camera as part of their benefits, Are they asking us to pay more for the cameras inside the park rangers, or is it part of their use? Yes Madam. But remember, they are not ordinary police officers, they don't have to get that. But when they prepared a budget to take over the county's property, they didn't include it in the park rangers. Park rangers. That's why park rangers will only have body cameras in Lake Beach. That's what I understood from my speech. Each ranger will get a special body camera. That's right. That's the way it is. I'm saying this based on what they told me. That's why we're here. For the question I asked, will my co-workers get a body? Is there a possibility that they won't get the last body from PBSO through Rega? We talked about this on Monday. Moreover, if we are considering our own rules regarding the time limit for meetings to be held, it will change to September 1 if the rules are followed. I would like the opinion of the co-operators on the issue of following our rules. In my opinion, if we go ahead and hand it over to the Sheriff's office, it will be our decision. They may need changes, but I think it will be our decision. We say this is what we promise. This is like a discussion.

We don't want them to be in a situation where they don't have a karar. No, that's not the end.

Vice Mayor, karar ends on September 30th. We're coming.

Go, go, go, go. I thought you read it on the news the next Wednesday.

September 30th.

I understand. Forgive me. Antony, continue.

I have no objection to postponing this. I think we should have a strong discussion about body cameras.

Okay, sir. To tell you the truth, the cost of body cameras is not a problem for me, because I can't pay for security. I don't think $50,000 a year is a big sum. I know this is part of PBSY's uniform, but remember that even if we give body cameras to our park rangers, we have to pay for it.

I thought it would end soon. So I don't mind waiting for a week. If it doesn't end now, I'm okay with waiting for a week. I thought a week was too fast. But okay. I'm okay with postponing this to do what we need to do. Okay, then Christopher, you have everyone's support.

So, is the decision to move to September 1st everyone's decision?

Agreed. Yes, what I have to say is that we have to complete the discussion. So, as soon as possible, but without being incomplete.

Okay.

If that's a meaningful thing.

Thank you, Vice Mayor.

That's a meaningful thing. The time is 1 minute to 10 o'clock in the afternoon. Oh. So, we're stopping our yoga. I'm seeing you, Antony. Unfortunately, the time is running out. I know Melissa wants to conduct the demonstrations in September. So, I'll give them the opportunity and then we'll go. So, Melissa, continue. Then, make sure everyone sends the HR things of the Indian Auditor to Shannon. Are you talking about Susie? What did I say? I don't know. Interview. That's Susie, not Shannon, anyway. Yes, we can do it. Melissa, continue. What is it? Okay, thank you. At that time, two events were the Constitution Week and the Hispanic Heritage Week. We do all that every year. Then there was a presentation related to the law enforcement law. On Wednesday night, there was a person from the county there. Shaila gave them a card. They said they would contact us as soon as they reached the office. But so far I have not received any information. There is no way to contact them. So if you are interested, I think the mayor knows someone. Can anyone tell me? Okay. Can any of you know this person? I can contact them if I want to change the details. How were they? Can we explain? Do you know? No. If they really want to do something, they have to contact us. Definitely. So I'm leaving it there. You don't have to contact them. We don't have to follow people to conduct presentations. If they were interested, they would contact us. One small thing. I don't know.

I don't remember, but for ATPS families, if anyone is helping to give power of attorney to children born in America, it is the smallest thing that can be done for our residents. That's what I know, but... No, it was estate planning.

No, oh right, Namuk, Christopher, they are doing it. I had promised to help the Guatemalan center, but they said they don't need help. There are a lot of people there.

Yes, but we are still waiting for those two statements. We have reviewed all the statements in the pre-agenda meetings. One year has passed since then. Last year, she agreed to be included in the agenda. Should I continue asking you? Yes. Do you want to ask about the exams every month or do you want to stop accepting them as they were accepted earlier? No. I think we should accept them now. Okay. Then, anything in this? Thank you. Good.

Is there any problem in this? I am not agreeing to anything that is not needed.

Okay. Then, Antony is not interested. Sara. I don't have much interest in that. I read the official statements they make. I haven't felt a problem with them for the past year. I want one person to be there to accept what we read. That's right. So, if there's no one to accept it, we haven't said we won't read it, right? Does that mean we're still doing it? We're keeping it as a consent. Yes, we're keeping it as a consent.

That's enough.

I'm sure there will be someone who can get there for the Hispanic department.

That's why I won't accept it. That's it.

So, is 41 okay? Yes. Yes. Okay. Thank you.

Okay.

It's 10 o'clock now. We're finishing our yoga. I think we'll see you all tonight at Sunset on the F. I can't come. But I hope you all have a good time. Okay. Enjoy Vermont. Of course. Thank you.