City Commission - Regular Meeting

do we have a lot of nests oh yeah it's been great I mean it's been really coming yeah yeah and Mary it is 6 23 and we are live thank you very much thank you very much Madam Clerk good evening everyone and welcome to the regular Commission meeting of the city of Lake Worth Beach Florida Tuesday May 19th Matt have the roll call please Mayor Betty Rush here Vice Mayor Mimi May

Present.

Commissioner Sarah Maliga. Present. Commissioner Christopher McVoy.

Here.

Commissioner Anthony Segrich.

Present. Thank you. And I just want to thank you all for your patience. We were at a closed door meeting and that's why we're a little late. I will lead the invocation and Mr. Oh, Ms. Maliga will follow the allegiance, Pledge of Allegiance. Years ago, I read a book by a woman who writes in spiritual ways, and she said her favorite prayer was, help me, help me, help me, and thank you, thank you, thank you. Amen.

That's a good one. A little long, but...

i i forget her name she's a she's a spiritual writer and it's just it's just basically thank help help me and thank you it's really all you need um okay do i have any additions deletions or reordering i have none madam mayor and does anyone on the dice have any already then uh public participation of non-agented items and consent agenda i have some cards up here mr hitchcock followed by todd townsend yeah yep europe followed by miss fisher followed by matthew matthew

weighty chicago 1506 13th avenue north do you hear it it's on can you hear me now yeah all right today's complaint is still about the beach uh the showers we need to do something about the nozzles on them because they're getting stuck we come up at six o'clock five thirty in the morning they're wide open running lot of water is being wasted we need to do the push button ones like they have on palm beach side restaurants have so this way they'll shut off because they're so worn out and the other thing i think you guys need to start looking at putting gates on the entrance going on to the beach to stop people from going out there and trashing our beach after hours This way here, if they're out there, you say, here's your warning. After that, you get a ticket for littering and being out there. Because there's no reason for what they're doing to our beach. Because that's one of the biggest things that people come here to see is our beach. So we got to see what we can do about that. And with the holiday coming up, hopefully we're going to have some extra opportunities. Sheriff deputies up there or something to keep people from, you know, doing stupid stuff. So everybody can enjoy it. The restaurants can enjoy it. There's no reason for people to have to listen to that loud music and, you know, people smoking their pot up there while they're eating dinner. So it needs to be really looked into.

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Townsend. Okay.

Hi, Todd Townsend, 502 South J Street. Just wanted to come up and let people know that I'll be giving a presentation on the business of tourism, vacationism, and party town for Lake Worth Beach. And that's going to be on Saturday, May the 30th from 3 to 5 at Compass. I'll be serving chocolates, wafers, and blessed water. We'll be making a case to keep the pool at the beach on that day. Now, we've had a historic 80 to 20 vote to vote, so let's vote. So again, we'll be working for a mandate or a vote on that matter. and if people can't make it we'll be recording proceedings for your convenient viewing so that's all i want to say and thank you very much and i hope you'll come out what time from three to five again that's going to be saturday may the 30th from three to five at compass we'll have chocolates wafers and blessed water for everybody hopefully the blessed water will well the blessed water is going to be so that you know to help people see the light and within the light you will find the road thank you thank you miss fisher oh thank you sure

Peggy Fisher, 508 North A Street. I've heard many times from people in the dais, if you see something, say something. And I usually do what I can online. But now I'm going to come up here and I'm going to say some things. Last Tuesday night, about 730, I was downtown. I observed valet from in front of Oceano. or the valets, park cars on City Street at least three times in a space of four minutes. I've requested their application and their permit. I am still waiting for that public record to be provided by staff. It was requested of them Friday morning. So that's three days waiting with no response from community sustainability. So maybe they don't have a permit, which means they shouldn't be valet parking at all. Second item is I was at the beach Wednesday night. And when I got there, I thought, I'll take the elevator on the north end. Surprise, surprise, elevator doesn't work. don't know if it's turned off i don't know if it just doesn't work but you all talk about apartment buildings having two elevators working so let's get our facilities taken care of when i came out half the lights on the west side of the wall upstairs were not lit to light the walkway which is a safety issue, going towards the stairs going down. There are lights in the walls upstairs. You can see them if you're up there. Then walking down from the top of the dune down to the lower level parking lot. I have told two city managers and a previous interim city manager that it is a liability for the city that there is no foot level lighting on that walkway. it is not a citizen's responsibility to carry a light to be able to see to walk on city property and these are things that i think the city should put some attention to hurdles cannot see from the sand up over the top of the dune and then down going down the hill they can't see lights that are on ground level going down you know we could put solar lights down there we could get the electric utility to run the solar lights down there but you've got a liability so my concern is we have to do a better job enforcing ordinances we put in place uh there is problems walkways downtown also thank you very much matthew can i just ask a question

just for i do believe the upstairs is closed at night there's a little chain that goes out in front of the gate i've gone upstairs matthew no you have to remember who knows

Hi, my name is Matthew Van Vordhuizen. I'm at 302 North B Street. And last time I was here, I was talking about trying to enhance the walkability and other safety issues in our city, particularly at the beach. And the reason I chose the bridge to get over to the beach is because I thought the rest of the city was reasonably safe. But then I heard in a pre-agenda meeting that there's talk of removing the circle at 2nd Avenue North and A Street. That is a major route for school traffic. And we already have way too many aggressive drivers through that area. And we need more traffic calming, not less. We need to go in the right direction here. And what I would like to do, I would like to help start a mobility tax task force. So that way we can get moving in the right direction instead of moving backwards. Thank you.

Thank you. That's all the cards I have. We keep them. Consent agenda. Do I have a motion?

Motion to approve.

Do I have a second? Second. All in favor?

Aye.

Thank you very much.

Unfinished business A. Madam Mayor, we skipped the minutes.

We did skip the minutes. Motion to approve the minutes. Do I have a second? All in favor? Aye. Aye. Thank you very much. Thank you, Madam Mayor.

I'm sorry, who was the second?

Maliga. Ms. Maliga. Thank you. Let's call you. Okay, we have now... restrictive covenant for 1718 south douglas related to conditional grant funding obtained but for the children inc motion to approve a conversation okay do i have a second second okay well let's talk um these legal staff will give a presentation on this particular item Present away, Mr. Lawyer.

Thank you. As you're all aware, the city has leased that property for some reason.

Is that better? Okay, sort of.

As you're aware, the city had leased that property for the children years ago. And as I laid out in the agenda report, there are certain improvements that were to be made. It took a little while, a few years actually, but now for the children that supply for a grant from the state, the state has awarded the grant subject to this restrictive covenant being signed. And the restrictive covenant is primarily against for the children because they're the ones that are receiving the million dollars, they're doing the work. It benefits the city in the sense that it is improving one of our buildings. The downside to the city is that you have to agree with the state that that building will continue to be used for 10 years as a cultural, you know, art site building as laid out in the grant. There is, I guess, a minimal financial risk in the event where the children stops, you know, operating at the facility and the grant agency goes after for the children um but again that is against for the children there's no claim against the city because we didn't receive any of the money um but we don't have to maintain it as a cultural facility that's kind of in a nutshell i tried to give you a lot of information you know a couple weeks ago and this was on the agenda we didn't have enough information so let's just put everything out there

okay so it doesn't affect the city that much it just allows them to continue for the next and it's only 10 years which goes by in a heartbeat right i have a 99 million so really the older i get the more i feel that um mr brownstein did you want to speak on this well because you have a card for a and this is a right but i thought you wanted to talk about

yeah ted brownstein 1016 south lakeside good evening everybody wearing two hats tonight miss reggie asked me to speak in favor of uh you know signing this restrictive covenant so uh strategy does such an incredible job for our kids down in that neighborhood they've been there over 20 years as you know and their kids that come back that were in preschool through high school with them graduating college now you know have been successful and are it is really the fruit of all that hard work and she does such tremendous job pulling grants out of the hat and complying with all these grant requirements she's the only one that can keep this in her head frankly you know so um but i know that we have this million dollar grant and there's a stipulation that the use not be changed on that facility which of course no one has any intent of doing it's a historic property it's on the national register as you know it's been there for the the for the children has been there well over 20 years and so i think it's a pretty safe bet they're going to be there another 10. so thank you for your support for them in the past as well as ongoing

thank you very much Miss May I'm just one I just want to go on record to say that um I approve although I'm not gonna talk about it I'm just saying that I think that um without liability towards the city that this is a great idea and let's move forward and they've been at it for 20 years already so another what's another 10. well I mean it's and they're doing great work yeah no it's wonderful it's amazing I just want to say um

real quick for somebody who works real close with Ms. Reggie and for the children and the work that gets done. These grants are not an easy undertaking and the hours and the time and Ms. Reggie actually writes them all. And my only question to Ms. Reggie is I hope we are planning a succession plan and we're building your bench because the historical knowledge and the data that is with Ms. Reggie and this program and this building needs to be retained. And we need to make sure that our kids for generations continue to have this amazing program um i thank you for wanting to invest in the city's property and because the city doesn't have the extra million dollars to throw into it so i appreciate all the hard work that goes into i think the board because she has a great board of volunteers who look at everything with a fine-tooth comb they're very particular and um i support this full heartedly and i just want to say thank you for all your hard work and dedication to the staff to miss reggie and the board thank you mr mcboy

um I I too support the the overall project and it does sound like the liability you know agreeing to this covenant doesn't put a undue burden on the city I had a question that I had asked the city manager I don't know whether they had a chance to figure out maybe legal um uh who owns the building that is constructed with this money does the city own it does for the children own it yeah we are you've got the answer to that this yeah the city the city oh maybe i didn't see it yeah he they did respond to your question okay excellent well i

okay mr same question um so my only question is um it says if they they fail to adhere to the terms the restrictive covenants that the state would place a lien on for the children's interest in the property including all improvements funded in the whole party by the grant funds um does that mean that if that were to happen the city is responsible to pay back or there's just a lien that sits on on our property

We're not responsible to pay it back. And in terms of the lien sitting on our property, you know, we can't really lien city property. The state understands that this is a for the children grant, that for the children responsible. All the state can really do is to require us to maintain historical program, their cultural program. And as long as we do that, I'm sure that the state's not going to take any action against the city.

Okay. The only guarantee is 10 years as a cultural center. I want to thank you, Miss Reggie, and your whole staff. I sat on the presentation that y'all made to the impact. And it's really impressive, the work that you've been doing now. It is 20 years. And thank you for the children of our city, really. It's wonderful. And please thank your staff for everything. So we have a motion and a second. All in favor?

Aye.

Go in peace. Thank you so much. Janet Callahan- Mr did you want to speak on how the ghost house as well, because you don't have a card for that. Janet Callahan- I have to follow the rules. Janet Callahan- Okay up next is. Janet Callahan- Up next is the jewel post office frame house project and do we have this. Janet Callahan- who's going to you are.

Good evening. Tiana McKay, Director of Leisure Services. So we are here today for direction on the Go To Host project to direct staff on the next steps. And as you know, we do have Mr. Ted Brownstein here if there's any questions about the specific project. And I will work to get that up on the screen.

Thank you. Do I have a motion? Motion to approve. Okay. This is so fun. really this is like one of the nice things that happens in the city um and um i had an idea so let's talk about this so are we approving it as is the 14 by 24 the way it's um described in our in the handout that we have 14 by 24. hey mr brown i do have a question i'm not sure mr uh malega oh sorry no may have really i'm sorry oh i'm sorry miss may

So I am very much in favor of this project. I do have a question. And I actually made meaning to email it to Troy today, but he emailed it to Ted instead. This is just kind of a random thought when I was looking at this. What if we what if we did it without the floor? and my point is one it would be cheaper two it would then have a grass floor and we wouldn't be covering 336 square feet of grass and the the uprights could go in you know be cemented into the ground if that completely changes everything and then everybody hates that idea that's we can just throw that out the window but I thought I would at least put it out there to see if If anybody has any appetite for that. The other question I have on it is one of our constituents emailed me today and mentioned something about people reserving it for weddings. And I don't remember us talking about that. I'm not against it, but where did that come from? And could we just have a little bit of update on besides it being monument to our our history are we then using this for weddings and get-togethers and i mean and i can understand if it's weddings we need a floor the dress the bride is not going to want her dress to get dirty so it's just i just wanted to throw that those ideas out there if anybody wanted to comment

So regarding the floor of the monument, I would like to refer to the community partners because it is their concept. And if there was any notion from the partners, if they'd like to have a special events held within the structure.

We've gone back. We've talked about this.

Ted Brownstein again. It's a fun project and it's wonderful to work with everybody. So glad to partner with you. Had an opportunity to talk to each one of you separately about the project and appreciate everybody's support. The idea of the pavers has several benefits. One would be that sponsors could get acknowledged on the paper. It's also possible there's going to be a lot of papers out there. We're not going to have hundreds of donations, frankly, from that. But we could do some interesting historical things. We could list the names of the residents that were there with the Jameses, for example. but other historical facts. And so there would be something to draw people to it other than just looking at the structure itself. There'd be some historical content there. So that's one possible benefit of the floor. The other concern that I have, frankly, we have a sunset pavers in our driveway at the house. And there are trees and tree roots that heave up those pavers. And so we would want to make sure that that's not an ongoing problem, but to, you know, disrupt the flatness of that floor and become a hazard out in the park.

The area under the tree where we had talked about is, I mean, that tree's been there, those trees have been there a long time, and it's not popping up at this point, right? It's pretty flat. Because my thought was, and I've said this, I mean, there's two possible places. I think... or save for just comfort i would like to see it nestled under the tree because if we're going to do stuff on the other side of that path by the wall number one it's right by the wall number two it's hotter than 80s over there because there's absolutely no shade and the thought was to have a like a little wedding ceremony and then they can rent the pavilion because we just redid that pavilion um to have you know to have the reception there kind of like make it a little bit of a venue

yeah we just hadn't had the conversation up here so I didn't know where that was coming from yep so you say you've had this conversation with Ted Ted and I've been talking about this for five years so obviously other people are if I'm getting emails about it okay well you know um and I don't have a problem with it I just where did usually we speak about these things as a commission well it's coming before us now so we that's what we're doing

John Krinsky CCNY- yeah things can have multiple use, and it is primarily educational historical mean but it's also public art. John Krinsky CCNY- And we can make want to make it attractive and and you know, an amenity to the park as far as that goes, so they have it physically, you know attractive, not just in marking physical space. And if you look at the Ben Franklin monument in Philadelphia, they have multiple structures and little walkway between them. And even though they're very sparse, they're arranged aesthetically. so that they complement each other with gardens in between and so forth and so on. So, you know, it is public space and it should be attractive in that way. So there's no reason why it couldn't have, again, a use as an event space in coordination with the other amenities that are in the park. And kind of a cool idea to think somebody draping silks or something over. There's no roof, so there's no, you know, there's not protection from the elements there. And it would be, you know, I think it could be made really attractive for a wedding. Somebody had the artsiness to make it so.

Any little social event like that. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of little ads. Who's on first? Who's on first?

Miss Malega.

Oh, Miss Malega.

Thank you. So I love this project. I've been a big supporter. I do have a couple of questions. I don't like approving something without even an estimate on cost. And it says that staff is also seeking commission direction on whether the city will take on long term operational in addition to procurement of engineering, architectural, professional services, design site plan amendments, permitting engineering, design and construction oversight. That makes this sound very expensive when I see all those big words, and I don't like that. So I do love the idea of selling papers and getting donations like we've been doing, I guess, at the golf course for the 100 yard. maybe we could get the neighborhood association ryan park and south palm park to do a fundraiser and help with this i just i would like to see a hard cost on this because we've been talking about this for a while and i wish that we would have had some kind of financials to go with it um because i think that's a big thing no of course especially hang on and so that's my first thing is is the cost I would like to see not just a plaque up there, but a QR code where people could access the information in Spanish, Creole, and Finnish, and make sure that everybody has access to the history. I think that's important. If maybe on the plaque, we could have three different QR codes for each language to tell that history, something that's weatherproof, obviously. But I fully support this. I would really like a hard cost and an approximation because, obviously, DENISE GLUHANZ- leisure services department and public works is going to have to know what the budgets going to be every year for upkeep and, as we know, grants are drying up quickly and the state and the federal government, so how long do we anticipate having any kind of that information.

It's my understanding, isn't there some private funding available for this?

Right. I think I'll just get a letter from the Community Foundation talking about a donor-advised fund there that is going to, I think, fund the vast majority of this. John Endershot, who's with us tonight, is with Rotary Club, and he was experienced with the Veterans Memorial that they did in collaboration with the city. And he had identified, we went through a lot of people that were supposed to work with us, and different things happened along the way. But this fabricator had given us a price tag of $17,000 for the aluminum, for fabricating the aluminum structure. That's not installation. It's not and that's some kind of resistance yeah i mean in talking to staff to the extent we have it's it's poles so there's nothing to catch the wind and so that they they would have to have be certified as i understand it by an engineer that it's hurricane resistant but it's a there's a minimal hurricane exposure there because of the nature of the open structure so um i think you know we've been saying because the press has been asking this question the public's been asking that question we've been saying around fifty thousand dollars saying that you know the aluminum might have gone up over the last couple of years and there's going to be installation costs we may have to you know hire some engineering certain people that have said they would volunteer really haven't followed through up to this point so there might be some additional expense there but i think there's plenty of wiggle room to go from 17 to 50 to cover the footers and incidents.

I think, like I said, I think this is a great opportunity for the neighborhood associations that, you know, South Palm Park, Bryant Park to help and do a fundraiser maybe. On the 4th of July RAF race, there's great opportunity with the NAPC to partner on this. I think this is, I know that Vice Mayor May is the NAPC liaison. Maybe they can help financially support the, especially the original setting, right? Because concrete does cost money, staff costs money. So I fully support it. I'm just more concerned about the finances.

So with direction tonight, staff will begin working on that process of getting you up for budget. We would need to be working with our finance team, with procurement, architects, because it is on city property. So we do need to follow that process. So we're looking for direction on that tonight. And then we would return with what the estimate of cost would be. And like Mr. Brownstein mentioned, they have been able to secure some funding from community partners. So we would need to have an agreement with how that process would take place for them to be paying back the city. But as you know, it's not currently budgeted in the leisure services budget. So that's why we're looking to budget time their action. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Segrich.

Thank you, Madam Mayor. So I definitely think Commissioner Malega's idea of having a plaque with educational information is a very good idea. I don't know if it needs one QR code or three. You can always click one and click on anything. But I would leave that to the designers. I think that it should be usable as a venue, as a public venue. So leisure services handle that. And it does couple nicely with the venue that's already there. I did have a question on location, because I know that when we walked the area, there was kind of a question of near the wall or underneath the trees. I've gotten mixed feedback from the neighborhoods. Most of it wanted it near the wall is what I heard. But I would be interested as part of this process. I think we need to get some of the direct neighbors feedback on that. Because as far as I'm hearing from the direct neighbors in that area, it's more near the wall. um there is also um some discussion of a mural on the wall and i understand that's private property and i've tried to facilitate that um and we'll see what comes out of that um in terms of who's paying um at no point in any discussion that i've had was this going to be a city funded project um so i am concerned that i'm hearing that it's going to be staff time staff architects staff engineers the city fronting the money for this um this was supposedly funded um well funded and um That's how I think it should remain. It should be a private project. I don't think the city should be the project manager of this or have our staff and the private organization can go through the appropriate processes to have this built. In my opinion, it's not the city's job to fundraise.

for this or sell the bricks or do that.

It's different with the golf course because that's the city's golf course, you know, and then that's what we're trying to do. This was a third party venture brought up. And as it was presented from the beginning was we're well-funded, we've got the funds to do this. And I am in support of it. And how it was presented to the neighborhoods was it's not coming out of the city's pocket it's it's funded by third parties so um i would say in terms of direction where i sit i would say it needs to be entirely funded and ran by the third party obviously the city will participate just like in any other building project um location the majority of feedback i got was closer to the wall not under the trees. Definitely be able to be used as a city venue and have a more of an educational component there via some sort of electronic medium or however that can be presented.

Thank you. Ms. May? Oh, are you still ready? Sorry, I'll come back to you. Mr. McCoy.

Yeah, just a couple of things. I noticed that the drawing that is in the backup that was online at least a day or two ago is a little different than this one um nitpicky maybe but i like the one in the backup better the rafters extend down and out a little further i like that it looks to me maybe not accurate but it looks to me like the roof angle is a little steeper in the one in the online backup which to me looks more from that period. Looks a little shallower in this one, a lower angle route. The other one looks more historic. I'm okay with the QR codes, but they have to be historically accurate to 1889. I would not be in favor of having them up on the Jewel Post Office sign, but the idea of having them visible somewhere. And I love the idea of putting it in Finnish as well. It's great. As far as the flooring, I hear the... the comment that maybe make it a, you know, pounded dirt, pounded sand floor. I think for practicality, probably the paving. I like the idea of either putting historical information in the papers or funders.

But here is the thing.

if it's going to be historical and historically flavored it's got to be bricks not the cast flavors that people use now which i dislike with fashion but um you want to do it with bricks now whether you can etch into bricks i don't know i'm not i think you probably can um the technology probably exists but i would use you know chicago bricks is going to feel much more historical to that than than the other uh and I also notice that in the drawing online the chimney which um I've been informed I suggested which I do not remember at all but I saw it in the online uh drawing and I thought oh that chimney gives it a little you know there's no wall or roof or anything to it but it does the chimney in the online drawing looks a little bit bigger in the in this one that's handed out the chimney looks maybe small very small yeah I'd go with the bigger you know a little bit bigger and obviously there's some questions if you don't want to get carried away you probably don't want bricks and you don't want it falling down and all that stuff so how you work that out but I'd be in I like the chimney um and but I would do it a little bigger I think that's all I got.

Thank you. Yeah, and I like on the one that was handed out where you have the double columns in the front suggesting the doorway rather than having it come out from that. Okay. Ms. May.

Who was the original motion maker on this? Yeah, that's what we were just going to figure out. big boy that's how I thought um yes I don't we just said motion to approve but um if you look at the backup it says the motion that was suggested was motion to approve or disprove the jewel post office frame house moving forward and provide direct and just direction to staff regarding funding for design development construction operation maintenance of the project so I think that I

be amended i think your motion needs to be amended just to be a little bit more specific about our direction for today i'm i'm very open to that and i forgot to say that my understanding is that yes this was proposed by a private group of folks thinking it was a good historical idea my understanding from staff was that because it's on city land it needs to be managed as a city project run from internally i I have no argument one way or the other. I defer to staff's instruction on that. Yes, I don't think we want to put major city cost

but he kept talking so it was I forgot to add it I'm I'm fine with the city okay thank you okay um just no that's okay um the no now I forgot what I was gonna say um oh yeah so when when we give direction to go for staff then would it be appropriate for us to ask for you to come back to us with the overall budget and design and plan and hours of staff time and all of those details for us to do a final um what is it i don't know if it's not already important and so it doesn't have to go through two readings but if we had more of information i think i i would feel more comfortable saying yay let's go ahead um but if the question is yes yes do we provide direction to staff to move forward get more get more accurate details and kind of narrow down what exactly is the plan and who's responsible for what then i would then i would be okay with that but i do kind of agree that um I would almost want to see the, and I know we have an email that says it, but I'd want to see the commitment from the donor in writing. Not that I don't trust them, but it's 2026 and people change their mind all the time. Because if we say, okay, we're going to fund this and then the money doesn't happen, then we're out 50 grand, which in the grand scheme of things for a project like that isn't the end of the world. However, if we are to get private funding for it, we should at least make sure that it's all on the up and up.

Thank you, Mr following up vice mayor, yes, we can return staff can return with those details and my understanding and I will look to my colleague and legal that there is a funding model that we can follow with an agreement where the donors would be returning the payment to the city, so I turn it over to our legal.

that's correct if we you know once we have your direction we can develop that agreement with the donors for example you may want to have a minimum amount for this 50 000 or 20 000 that you want collected before you begin spending money okay okay um thank you I got two people talking Mr sandwich for you so um this is a question for legal um is this technically an unsolicited proposal

Because now we're talking about a development project. Sure.

That's a good question. We have a project on city property that's going to be run by city staff, but supported by private donations? I don't think so, but I can look into that and bring that back to the next meeting.

When we went through the unsolicited proposal process, I brought up a similar scenario when I was told that That would be an unsolicited proposal, public-private partnership. It doesn't matter if it's a $5,000 project or a $500 million project is what I was told. So I would like to understand whether or not we should be following that process. And the key part of that process is the significant investment of staff time, which is the reason for the $25,000 fee. It doesn't have to go out to bid for our unsolicited proposal process. But I really think before we go down this road and invest significant staff time, that the money's there, you know, and it's fleshed out. even though it's on city land and it needs to be a city-run project, meaning the city has to project manage this, I don't think that means necessarily that the city has to hire the architect. We have plenty of things where that happens. And so I think that we need to understand whether this is an unsolicited proposal i think before we invest significant staff time that that money to cover the staff time is set aside or available um for that consideration and then this proceed via our set processes um so legal we'll look into that i will look at that that's a good question thank you okay The last thing I had was the maintenance costs. I think we need to set a reserve that has to be met to maintain it for a certain number of years. What that number of years is, I don't know. But I think as part of it, there needs to be reserves for maintenance. And then the other thing is, in terms of hurricane stuff, things here i believe have to be constructed to cat5 or cat4 standards um that's significant when you're dealing with aluminum structure just because it's a thin structure doesn't mean that that can't suffer tremendous wind damage i've seen a two by four put nine feet into the ground just a single two by four that was laying in a pile um so they'd have to follow all this yeah so but there's significant engineering in that and significant cost So that's more reason why I really believe that the funds have to be there. It should be, generally speaking, ran by the private entity. The city can project manage it and coordinate it, and obviously staff will be involved. But if we do it the other way around with the cities leading it, it could be a rabbit hole that just ends up costing us money. Because what happens if our city staff come back and say, It's $250,000. But we've wasted all that money of our resources. And we have a policy in place where unsolicited proposals, the whole reason we put that in place was so that we did not have to incur the cost to the city and the taxpayers that private entities seeking to do things like this had to pay the upfront application fee to cover the cost of that significant effort.

Thank you, Mr. McVoy and Ms. Leggett.

Ms. Leggett first.

Ms. Leggett first. Thank you, Commissioner McVoy. Well, I do understand Commissioner Segrich's rationale that processes are processed for a reason. I believe, I don't remember the date, this was presented to this commission way before we developed that policy for Triple P. And we supported it. I did support it saying it was community funded. But if we're gonna partner with, and we wanna embrace our history, want to celebrate our history, I'm okay with partnering on this project. I don't see this as a triple P. I don't see this as an unsolicited proposal. I see this as a community, as the historical society, as the people and I can't remember the original date you came in here with the big thing. It was big. And he had consensus from this dais. Yes, we're interested. Yes, go forward. If we were going to make them do a unsolicited proposal or go through the processes, we should have added as a commission given that guidance that day. So I agree with you. There is going to be staff time. That's why we're asking for more input in regards to the budget. And I would like to see a commitment letter as well from Rotary, if it's going to be from Rotary or Kiwanis or whoever, as far as the partnership, right? But I do not see this as you need to come here with a $25,000 check. I agree. I know that we firmly talked about this before we had this policy set. This has been something in the works for years. Shame on us as a city for making them go through neighborhood meetings and engagement and getting you know we're the ones who sent you back and said go get more support so i support the project i do want to see the funding i am about the money because then we need to be able to try to help figure out how can we help offset this cost with other partners who else can we bring into the fold is it the palm beach historical society will they help us with it you know we have resources so um i agree with you

when it comes to policies i do not believe this project fits in that policy we talked about this a long time ago i will continue to support it i would like to see a final budget worked up please yeah i i agree with you this is not a hotel going in or a store going and this is something that's gonna it's an amenity for the for the people so i think that's a different thing and we'll find out from our legal staff um mr mcvoy um

I will try to, in a minute, amend my motion to try to capture some of what all I've heard. I would like to, at a policy level, say I don't think this is a P3 either. If somebody wants to push the P3 argument, I would have some very big concerns about how we've handled some other unsolicited proposals. But I won't go there. i think we need to keep the big picture in mind that part of what we do as a city is honor our historic roots and do that in a visible fashion hopefully aesthetically pleasing if you lengthen out the rafters a little longer per my request um under the trees um and put it under the tree i'm whatever um uh i kind of liked it more open as in the backup drawing without the two posts but you know that all can be and yes bring us back some information uh a little bit more probably if we can get at least some degree of commitments of funding at least soft ones that would be nice because i i agree that we probably don't want to have the city on the hook for the whole cost i have no problem with staff putting some time into supporting it my understanding as i said earlier is that there are various reasons that this needs to be a project run by the city if there can be some division of that labor that works better some things done outside picking the architect or something i i'm i want to see the project move forward i think this is an enhancement let's not get hung up in too much of the technical details and certainly don't come in with a 25 000 burden to no this is something the city will enhance the so that thank you for the private people doing all the work to get there um do you want me to try to modify my motion to capture at least some of this or do we have more discussion uh

I appreciate Commissioner Malaika's and your guys' comments that you don't feel it's an unsolicited proposal or you feel that it came in prior. We did go back and tell somebody who submitted a proposal prior to our policy, too bad. We now have this policy. Doesn't matter when you submitted it. You got to come back in under our policy. So I would just be very cautious about us acting differently for different entities because we may like the entity more than one of the others or like the idea more than one of the others. I am in support of this project. my constituents the neighborhoods are in support of this project i want to make sure we do it the right way um and so um you know uh i would ask the the motion maker clearly outline you know who's going to be funding it and are we going to be having it funded prior to staff investing a lot of time in this because my big question is how do we get to an accurate budget In any development project, how do you get to an accurate budget? You start off on the back of a napkin, talk to a couple of vendors, flesh it out. But then you got to get down to brass tacks and understand, okay, what kind of piles do you have to put in for that foundation? It's a very wet area, right? So how far is it to bedrock? Who's going to test that? It's not as simple as saying, oh, this is going to be a $50,000 project. It could be a $100,000 foundation. We don't know that yet. Have the geotechnicals done? All of these things have to happen. These are real costs in order to get to a budget. So I would really urge us to ask the organization to go back and start on that process and have the organization conduct whatever tests are necessary to get a real budget before the city invests significantly in this.

And I think they're willing to do that. And one of the things that you were working on is getting architects and I'm just going to help you make a couple phone calls. Yeah. So my thought, the motion would be just to go forward and have the group and staff come back with just, especially the group come back with...

more particulars than to on in in concept go forward with the project and come back with some more hard numbers does that work for you go do something um okay i will try can can i are is there general consensus that there can be at least a bit of staff time put into it

communicating with the folks and you know maybe if there's somebody who has some leads on expertise do we really need to you know pilings that go down to bedrock well that they're there i mean they will have to be an engineering study to do this anyway i mean we know that that's because it has to be hurricane proof but we do that i mean we put up uh playgrounds we put up different things it's not can we have a little bit of

uh for some staff time to get it off the ground and with an understanding that the private side will you know try to pull their weight too thinking they listen a lot of people ask the staff for a lot of things so i think this wouldn't be out of the ordinary i i would agree okay so i move to approve moving forward with this project as a joint effort with a bit of staff time primarily effort from uh private group that is doing it that we all express our support for the concept we would like to see a little more details on the funding and you know some initial ideas on the cost

but you have to be able to repeat it okay so we have a motion by Mr McBoy and a second by Miss Malega we have Miss Lowe you have a card for this Thank you. Yeah, of course. Thank you. And TB, that's you, and you've already spoken. Okay, great. I'm like, who's TB? Okay, great. And Mr. Savage, in terms of the placement, I mean, yes, the people right around the park may say that, but I mean, this park belongs to the entire city. So I just need to put that in there. So we have a motion and a second. All in favor?

Before you vote, Mayor, I apologize. I do have two comments in here. Oh, I'm sorry. No worries. The first comment that I have is from Tracy Rose of Peterson at 331 South Lakeside Drive. As a member of the Bryant Park Neighborhood Association and founder of Nest and friends of Bryant Park, I am in favor of adding the Jewel Post Office Memorial Project. I also support improvements to Bryant Park that protect, preserve, and celebrate its natural beauty, historical significance, and peaceful atmosphere. and the next comment i have is from gail silverblatt 414 north ocean breeze as a founding member of the neighbors encouraging shade trees nest i am in support of the linear form of the james post office frame i believe she meant jewel frame house being placed in the original location of South Bryant Park. The simple frame structure is a testament to the historical significance of our earliest settlement and a work of art between a sketch, a model, an installation, and a sculpture. Bryant Park is our city's gem, a paradise where nature is the amenity. It is crucial that we protect our parks. The transparent frame structure ensures that the lagoon and tree-lined vistas remain visible, providing residents with a peaceful escape from the chaos of our busy lives while reminding us of our historic past. That is the only two comments that I have this evening, Madam Mayor.

Thank you very much. Madam Mayor. May I make a quick comment? I heard mention of potential location. 1 of the things that our staff will need to do is to do proper locates of our utilities to ensure that where the location is that there's no underground utilities. So that's 1 thing to note. And then Mr Brown seemed to just mentioning that he may be able to pull together some more information regarding the funding. Correct?

yeah i i believe that the letter came from the community foundation to jamie brown when he was sitting as the interim city manager and i don't know if it got distributed i think all of you got copies of a letter from them we already have in hand at the historical society 15 000 from them for the promise of soft money if you will once we have you know harder numbers on the um In addition to that, there are several major funders in the $10,000 range who are already soft money, if you will, ready to support. I don't expect any trouble whatsoever raising the $50,000. If you recall, I was with the Kiwanis Club at the time we did the Martin Luther King Memorial. We raised $180,000 for that project. probably get privately funded so i just have this is going to be a slim time okay great could you can you get that in writing yes well it's already asking that money is in writing in this letter i'll see if i can find it again and make sure everybody gets a copy okay thank you very much we have a motion in a second oh can we make sure that that's in the backup next time just for the general public to see anything that goes with the project i think should be part of this a little more extra stuff yeah yeah thank you okay all favorite hi hi

I thank you. And thank you everyone for working on this. This is very exciting. I said something to the staff last week that her old Tiana's hair, which is when we get this, the opening should be, we should start. I was up in Melbourne beach a couple of weeks ago and they had a little, little thing going on. It was founders day. And since we're celebrating the founders of this, I think that would be like a really good connection of having sorry, Tiana, other founders day celebration to go along with it. Cause it's for the founders. we don't have to understand we do have founders day we've done it the last two years in a row what would we do for it we were at the cultural planet celebrating the founding well then okay thank you i don't know wow she was there we weren't invited okay remember i forgot the words to the pledge do you not remember this um Okay, moving on, we now have new business ordinance them. ordinance number 20 2607 first reading, please read by title.

Ordinance number 2026-07 of the City of Lake Worth, East Florida, repealing section 2-9 in articles 5, 9, 11, 15, 16, 17, 20, 21, and 23 of chapter 2 and sections 13-1, 13-2, 13-3, and 13-4 of chapter 13, and adding a new article 4 of chapter 2 of the Code of Ordinances Regarding Agencies for the Committees of the City, between procedures for the appointment of members terms of office attendance and residency residency requirements members powers and duties of all agencies boards and committees of the city observability repeal complication and an effective date thank you um do i have a motion motion for discussion do i have a second second by miss malega okay let's discuss a man could you say are there any um public comments on this

no matter mayor i have no comments on any other items tonight okay thank you that's what i thought thank you okay so miss may would you like to talk sure um i look through these and i'm okay with all of them except for the education advisory board oh okay um a couple things about that the i believe that the board what page or what number oh i'm so sorry uh line 226 and down page five line 226. I don't have anything. There's nothing wrong with what is on here, but there's a couple things missing in my opinion. Okay. The first one is I believe, and I spoke with two other people that have been on the task force since the conception, that it should be a sunshine board like the rest of the boards. There are several members who are not comfortable with that. And you know what? Sorry. I'm not voting yes on this unless it's in the sunshine. I agree. I just feel like especially if they're dealing with money and they're advising us on how to spend city money, it has to be in the sunshine. So that's my first thing. The second thing is one of the original things was that the members of the board, the reason there were seven and one was assigned to each of the schools was so that they could join the school advisory committee, the SAC. And they have to attend the meetings, which are once a month. I have gotten reports from schools that they are not doing that. Now, some of them are not all of them are not. And some of them can't go to the meeting. So they get notes in a different way. And I think that's fine. But I just I think that should be something that we put in here when it says the board shall be comprised of seven members each. because first of all in a school advisory committee you can have a member of the committee from the pub from the community in fact you have to so there there it is and if they can't be a voting member they should at least be um present at the at those meetings um and that so that's the second thing and the third thing and I'm very I think this is very important and it was originally a condition of approval for being allowed to serve on this board, was that no teacher at a school or parent of a child at that school, no teacher at a specific school or a parent of a child at that specific school can be, I actually don't have a problem with them being on the board, but they can't be assigned to that school because they have, I believe they'll be undue influence. um i when it was original you couldn't be a teacher at a um lake worth beach school and i know two people that were on the task force that had to step down because they got jobs here and another that did get a job here and did not step down and she's currently serving and we have a parent um of a student serving for the school that they are a parent of it's just it's a conflict of interest in my opinion especially if they're just trying to figure out who's going to get money for what project um so just to i would like to have this change so maybe that there's efg um that they have to be part of the sac committee so that could be maybe added on to be that no teacher or parent um that works at a school or has a parent of a child at a school can be assigned to that school um and like the other boards where it says um board members shall be required to file financial disclosures i don't know if that means they're in the sunshine Because you don't have to do that, right? You just have to take the ethics training. I'm asking.

How about you finish and I'll answer a few of your questions. Because I hear a couple of questions there.

No, there was just one about the sunshine. Whatever you have to add to it to make it in the sunshine.

they would have to be in the sunshine um they would be subject to ethics so they would have to comply with all the ethics rules um which you know might include filing the form f1 and kind of with the patent we'll look at each one individually right but one suggestion we were going to make was on page two on line 235 that same day right it's said that the board studios system oversee and we'd like to change that word to review because it almost sounds like there then overseeing the gland or almost administering the grant and maybe add at the end how about advise yeah and we were going to say and recommend recommend at the end so it would be review the lakeward beach educational innovation and advancement grant program and recommend award recipient and award amounts perfect

That's no, I didn't think of that. But yes, I mean, if we're going to give them 75,000, not give them, but if we're going to allow them to figure out a way to spend the 75,000, they have to be in the sunshine, and they can't have conflicts of interest. understand you on the parent part so let's make believe okay so let's say i have a kid let's say i'm a teacher at barton i can't have barton as my school okay and my kid goes to barton serve on the board i can serve on the board and i can maybe my school could be the middle school but not barton okay and same if i'm a parent with a kid at barton i can serve on the board i just can't serve for barton because then i'll have undue conflict of interest so whether you wanted to say they can't serve or they just have to refuse themselves from any voting on that no i think that you cannot you can't you can serve on the on the board but you cannot be the liaison to that particular school okay and that's my that's what i'm bringing forward i don't know what my colleagues are going to agree or disagree to but i mean at first i was going to say you can't serve at all but that seems a little bit limiting okay that's it okay mr segrich

Thank you. I wanted to kind of address what Ms. May was just talking about. so just a conversation question on it um in my mind what you're saying is okay they're either a teacher they have a parent they're going to exert undue influence on that in what capacity like what are they what are they doing so as far as let me just as far as i see and serving as a liaison to it the only advisory role thus far or recommendation thus far that they would be doing would be um awarding the grant so if but if I was sorry I disagree okay but there could be more but as far as what we have outlined now and as far as what's going on now if it's undue influence wouldn't it be them saying hey i want that money to go to the school i work for whether or not they're the liaison for that school it doesn't matter okay well then they can't serve at all well that's what i was coming and yeah i mean and that's fine with me too in fact i would prefer that because and and the other thing about it is anthony is that

As a teacher, I also have a lot more information about specific schools than a liaison position would. And I think that's not fair. Same as a parent. I just don't think that if, I mean, all right, I'm going to change my change. No teacher of any Lake Worth Beach schools, no parents of any Lake Worth Beach schools can serve on this. Because they be on the snack anyway if they teach at the school they they can still participate they can still call the commissioners they can still do everything but in a liaison position between the city and the i want to keep it clean and right now it's not clean so no teacher no parents you can be a teacher but not in the lake where schools school you can be a parent but not at the lake worth beach schools

okay miss uh so i'm telling you there's undue influence mr secretary i think so sorry if commissioner malega wanted to talk about that particular topic about that particular topic yeah i really need new batteries i just sent shayla a message because nobody ever sees my light over here i need batteries please anyway um as somebody who's been a parent of a kid at north grade there's no reason that I don't feel that I couldn't be a good liaison to the middle school or the high school. The parents are raising the future of our city. And I personally don't want to tell a parent, thank you for supporting the city. Thank you for sending your kids to our school. Thank you for, supporting the school board with your taxes but you can't be on our educational task force I just don't think that's the right message and I get it if you're I shouldn't have if I'm a parent of a child at a school I don't think I should be the liaison at that school but as an elementary parent there's no reason i don't think that i should be able to work in the high school or work in the middle school where eventually my kid will end up hopefully and help improve that experience so i don't support i support the teacher full full-fledged i do not support not letting parents be on the educational task force i just i don't think that's fair but not not assigned to the school not assigned to their school where their kids are but i think that they should be able to be on the task force and just be assigned to a different school so um

Having this discussion with members of the task force, some of them were they would be excluded. Some of them were very willing to take on the new role and see how it goes. I personally am struggling to understand what would the conflict of interest like? Is there an example that you guys could educate me on that if I'm a parent of a student out of school and I'm the liaison, what is that conflict of interest? Because as far as my experience thus far, and I know it's not based on the original intent of this board, the liaisons are reporting back. This is what's going on at the school. This is all the activities. Here are some great highlights. Here is a sport result. Here is a teacher who is honored. Here is a particular challenge the school is having with attendance or mentorship programs that they're trying to do. Oh, we're all getting free batteries. That is a bright light down there. But if you guys can, what is that conflict of interest? Like, what would you see that being? Because right now, the only conflict of interest that I could see is If they are making the grant award choice, then potentially favoring their school, in which case it wouldn't matter who they were the liaison to, there's still an equal vote as everyone else.

And I agree with you. My perception on it to answer your question is, let's just say I'm a parent and I have one particular issue with one teacher or with one program. I may try to highlight that to be self-serving unintentionally, right? Because oftentimes we are what we experience and that's what we carry through. So to me, just to keep it clean and to not, again, perception is everything, right? For the perception factor, I think it also helps to know that, you know what, this is a genuine parent who's got kids in middle school and they're serving at Barton Elementary. They're not self-serving. Not that our board members are, I'm just saying people's perception of it, I think is also what comes into play.

with the appearance of impropriety yeah yeah if i could comment in a minute well the the other the other area of conflict of interest that got brought up is one of the members um is a vendor to our schools and they they were concerned that a project or a grant could go towards a program which ultimately purchased goods or services back from them um and I I thought it was very the discussion was very Noble of the people because they're they're bringing up these things that I know they they wouldn't have a conflict you know they're they're of high moral standard but um I tend to agree, I believe, with Commissioner Malega, where I would fall more on the side because I struggle to think of. people who don't either have a child in one of our schools or teach or involved wholeheartedly in one of our schools wanting to take the time to be this involved in our schools now we do have one member um who teaches elsewhere um but lives uh here you know and and wants that i just think We have a hard enough time filling boards as it is. I think thus far the candidates and the people who've been involved have been very concerned about this themselves and even saying that they might not want to serve because of that potential appearance. um and to me that makes them the best candidate to want to serve because you know they are thinking of that so i would tend to agree with commissioner malega on that particular park um of it um uh is that vendor of at one school or all the schools um i believe just that one potentially two it's not a major vendor you know it's not like you know they're selling them all their textbooks and stuff like that it's more like promotional t-shirts and things like that same thing would apply then they could be at a different school not school that they vended to yeah again the imprint you know the appearance is important um

I still have one more thing, though, even though we're sharing the light.

Okay, we're going to let Ms. Millay to finish, and then you'll get your chance. Oh, okay, wait. Okay, Mr. McVoy has his light on, and then you'll get... Go ahead.

Because you went with what you had, and then he went with what he had. Are you on the same topic? Okay, Mr. McVoy, same topic.

Okay.

I would just like to point out that this is an incredibly powerful board that has enormous influence and we need to be extremely careful about who might be on it and any potential i think we're making a huge i'm being sarcastic um um the reason i say this is it it the board has essentially no power the only thing that has maybe given it some actual power is this grant award thing that i would recommend we take that out of the issue and deal with that some other way it it it it's become more of a problem than not I am very much in the direction of Mr Segrich's comments and I think I would go even a step further having had a lot of experience having served on some of the boards in the past it is present type salute um it is not easy to find people to serve on boards and there is often people turn over on boards because they get frustrated like i put in a lot of time it had zero influence the city didn't listen to us why am i doing this i think your biggest problem with a board like this is going to be finding people who are willing to put in the effort and they but i mean i'm i'm not surprised at what i'm hearing from commissioner segrets and some of the people self regulated or self said hey look i might have so maybe recuse on a certain vote or something or other i think they would automatically do the whole point of the board is to increase involvement of the community and increase the interconnection between the commission and city government that has no funding involvement with the city with the schools schools are funded totally separately um and to you know recognize that our schools you know our educational process in the city is something that the commission cares about that we want more community involvement and and encourage people and it realistically the people who are going to willing to do it are the people who do you know they have a parent there or or they teach at the school or something rather it's a fair amount of time especially if you're going to insist that they also have to serve on the sac committee now you've doubled their time commitment I would go very easy on the worries about perceptions and this and that this board doesn't you know they're not voting on the budget of the schools or even anything remotely like it. If we are concerned about the grant program, I would suggest we have a totally separate committee to evaluate those grants. It's once a year. Well, getting people to do it is another issue, but I think we are making a mountain out of a molehill. on and you will have trouble getting people to serve on it and you send a message that now you're you're making it a sunshine thing so they got to fill out the form one things which you know is one extra hassle plus revealing things that they might not like why um it just it from my experience of dealing with multiple boards over the years um I would be very cautious about making it more difficult. I don't think that the dangers are anywhere near as big as anybody makes out.

Thank you.

so um please watch your tone i don't think that that's nice if you wouldn't mind watching your tone and your sarcasm what if i had said that about a different board that you felt really passionate about i think you'd be kind of insulted and i just want you to know that i am i don't need a response i just want you to know that your sarcasm and tone really diminishes the purpose of the sport the way that you've said it thank you um the other thing is the other thing is so the education task force which is what this started at when we first put out for members of it there were 21 people in the chambers here wanting to be on it we voted 18 people on that's more than any other board ever in the city and that was in 2021. yes 18 on the board now granted we broke it down because it wasn't enough for 18 people to do that was in 2021 this is the only board that we have not had to fill a seat on since 2021 which also means we haven't allowed other people to serve on this board who might be interested i don't think That we are not saying to any parent that you can't participate in your child's education. You can't be part of their school. You can't volunteer at their school. You can't do everything that you can possibly do. What we're saying is you can't be the city's liaison to that school. And whether or not you guys agree with me or not, you have to know that I'm the only teacher sitting up here. I know that there's undue influence, even if a person doesn't think it is. Okay, whether you're the parent or you're the teacher. And honestly, I think that we should be looking at ways to make sure that it looks like we are not setting ourselves up or our boards for any sort of, what was it? The appearance of impropriety. Now, if you guys come back to me and say, Mimi, everybody has quit this board. Nobody wants to be on the board. And it's all because of your stupid ideas, then we can revisit it. But when when we originally had this board, and all of these rules were in place, except the sunshine, which we all kind of said that we agree with being in the sunshine. We didn't have a problem finding anybody to be on the education task force. So I think. But I think we do have a problem now. And I think that if if I'm going to this whole thing, it's going to be, I hate to do it, but it's going to be based on this. So I'm pretty passionate about this. Thank you.

Are you, so to clarify, you're not saying they can't be on the board, they can't be assigned to the school that they either teach or have a kid in?

I don't think they should be allowed on the board. But if I have to compromise somewhere, I can compromise with that. But I think there's enough people that care about the education of children in this city that we could make that rule, and we would be able to fill that board seven times over. So I mean, with the interest that we had five years ago, we have not had to add anybody to this board in five years. Name another board that's like that.

Have people fallen off the board?

we um allowed people to step down because we needed seven people but no the only people that stepped out was one because she got a job at Lake Worth High so she said I it is it is not appropriate for me to be on this board so and then we replaced her with um a member of the board but other than that no okay who made the move I did

Um, can I go? Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. So again, I, I support parent involvement and I support no teacher involvement. So I support half of your torch that you're carrying, which I love the passion and I love your perspective. Your perspective is I'm not a teacher. I'm not in schools all day, but I do get that some things can be slighted. I am more concerned about the fact, and I don't know how. sacred heart which is a private catholic school is on this list but yet for the children who has been serving our kids for 20 years doesn't have a liaison they are a real functioning school that's open from 6 a.m until 6 p.m they they serve our students too and our kids and i don't know why and how that got missed i never and and it's my bad i'm going to take full responsibility for that slipping by because i don't think that we should have sacred heart on this list sacred heart wasn't originally on the list i don't know how it got that got on okay so it was just the public schools i'm going to ask that if we are opening it up and having representation at private entities like sacred heart then if an entity like for the children wants a liaison from the educational task force that they can let us know and that that's a need that we could fulfill i just think that we have to be equitable and having one private catholic school on this list and not asking the other schools to if they would be like to part of this conversation i think is it's not fair so for the children functions as a school then 100 i mean that's where they go right yes ma'am that's from preschool all the way through to sixth grade and then they come back in the summer programs and they're all involved with the after school programs and tutoring and all that but I just think that if we're going to have one we should open it up to whoever other school entities that want to be part of it I don't know if there's an appetite for that across the board um that was my really my biggest concern okay Mr Segrich Mr McCoy

Maybe we can't.

that new life she didn't get anything so i would i would be in favor of allowing it to be expanded because you know they're at least the the history or perspective i was provided um they did try to do outreach to a lot of the private um schools and the response wasn't great right um i think sagerhart might have been the only one that even responded with some interest and then that dwindled off rather rather quickly um but I do think if we do have a school in our city public or private that wants to have a liaison with the city we should allow them to do that um you know I I think you know they're all serving the children and the needs of of our community and and should be able to to be a part of this so

So then how do we put that in the ordinance, I guess, or I mean, there should be some language for whoever's sitting up here in the near future that says that, you know, any private or public school in the city of Lake Worth Beach that wishes to have a liaison? Mm-hmm.

know one thing that we'll do and then you can say i agree one thing that we'll do though maybe a minimum the number of liaisons would have to match the number of schools served so you'd have to say that if a new school came up they don't need a new liaison and expand the right so mr attorney are you getting this we're going to equal the number of schools served is there going to be a cap i mean are there charter schools well i think what we're saying i think what mr secretary is saying any school any school that's in the city i don't know how many there are we have sacred heart we have four children we have so uh we agreed to amend that to do that okay all right so we have sunshine Any schools, no teachers in the school that they teach in, right? Tell me if I'm wrong. What else?

And no parents representing Bengali.

Same thing, schools, teachers and parents, no, not to the school that they're involved in.

I'm not in agreement with the sunshine thing. I think we're defeating the whole purpose of the board and making a lot less likely. Again, I had no harm in my comment, this sarcasm. I mean, this sarcasm is not appropriate, but look at the list. If you were considering going on this board, what is it that you get to do? you maybe get to communicate a need to the commission the commission may say that's a wonderful need we got no money we got nothing we're not the school board um thanks for your input At which point somebody says, well, why did I serve on this and why did I have to not be able to talk to my colleagues and call them up and say, hey, over here at Highland, we've got this problem. You have the same problem with Barton. They can't do that. Or, hey, we see a problem with the middle school that is maybe coming to the high school and you can't talk to the people because it's a sunshine thing. They don't have any serious authority. I don't see a need for them to have those extra restrictions. And I think you're cutting out people who might have an interest in serving. I think the worry about the conflicts, if this was a board that had actual serious resources or serious decision-making that affected, you know, we're going to decide who the next assistant principal is, okay, that's a whole different deal. But they don't.

don't have the authority to grant that kind of thing the attorney will explain to you why as an advisory board it has to be in the sunshine the the role is they another group can't give us advice but they can give us information i mean that's going to be the question if this is an advisory board that's the way it's apparently being structured and they're going to give you advice on for example grants then they're part of the decision-making tree and they need to be sunshine

and and the hitch though is okay they give us advice other than the grant program they can give us advice but we don't have any authority as a commission to do anything with the school so even the advice they're giving is very limited in where it's going so what's the motivation to be on the board and and why put extra burdens and hurdles on it I think you want to encourage anybody who's willing to put the time in and commit to being on the sack and you know don't add the extra things but they have to have the Sunshine no they don't have to they didn't we had a task force that apparently had people on it can we call the question so

we also have um right we also have no we don't have any um yeah we have one miss miss miss miss fisher has a comment um we needed a second and a vote on calling the question madam mayor oh well you debate that um do i have a motion to call the question call the questions or a second on that fails for lack of a second how long have we been talking about this city clerk long

Yeah, but I'd like to hear the public comment.

I understand. I'm just saying for us.

I'm sorry, Commissioner. I stopped the clock at seven when I ran up there for your light. So I apologize that I was not accurately keeping.

Okay. We'll forgive you this time.

Peggy Fisher, 508 North Hay Street. How long have you all been talking about this ordinance? I would say about 11 months ago. It's been since June of last year that this has been going through revision. Why is it going on and on and on? This is why things don't get done, is you beat it to death, you then bring it back and walk it through, as someone said, the weeds, and then you bring it back and then you walk it through the weeds again. This whole time you have talked about nothing but the educational task force. This ordinance applies to every board in this city. And there are a lot of boards, advisory boards, that based on what Commissioner McVoy was saying, don't really have any real impact on anything. I served on the electric utility board. And the only thing we did was talk about things and give our opinion to the utility director. We didn't make any significant decisions, but we were sure a board in the sunshine. And that's what every board in this city should be. But please. you do these you start these ordinance changes and you drag it and drag it and drag it and then you forget what you did two months or three months or four months ago it shouldn't take this long for something to be revised to put it all under one thing and i know the timeline because You all were talking about this and doing things with filling board vacancies and everything else. This is why people get so frustrated. Get stuff done. Just that's all I as a resident, as someone who comes up here. Thank you. That's time. Thank you to do. Please. Okay.

We did finalize these changes on April with you guys last year.

Okay. So where are we at? I'm sorry to take your line, but we really don't want to go past 30 minutes. And we're probably way beyond that at this point.

I'm not on the education one. I have one word change on the tree business. John Potter, But well i'm 303 names to South Florida friendly landscapes, which is not recognized definition South Florida native landscape native plant landscapes, I would say, which is.

John Potter, A.

i'm sorry can you speak into your mic i'm working on it um thank you uh line 303 changed the word friendly which is ill-defined to native plant landscapes which is well recognized both by the state and by uh the water management districts and by uh okay any objection to that change well i have an objection because if you go to the line

3 10. it says based on consistency with Florida friendly landscaping Florida friendlies all the way through this we did go through this which is why I called the question yeah I'm sorry to be a little agitated but this is ridiculous so we have the changes with the um education board we did go through this Mr McVoy last time I remember quite distinctly so uh friendly is it's under it's under the red yeah we did this already we discussed this a lot and we all voted up to keep it so much time okay so we have a motion to call the question is there a second to call the question

I thought yeah did you do it again I just said this is why I voted again tried to call the question right so motion to call the question second okay all in favor of calling the question all right now the original motion motion to approve thank you that was my original motion yeah with the changes with the changes all in favor do you want to recap those changes because I think sure it's in the sunshine

the educational yep um they have they have to be part of the um the sac committee if there is one because if we have a school that doesn't have one then that it could be called something else that for the children it could be called something else um that you'd have to have the same amount of members as schools

participating and um no teachers no teachers or parents can serve at the school that they teach or parent at and we added on line 26 and recommended amounts review the 235 and 236 review the lake birth each educational innovation grant program and recommend amounts we added that language that was the very first thing we did

That was a change that we talked about at the beginning. Change the word. Oversee to review.

Oversee to review. But did you add something at the end of that sentence?

Yes. And recommend an award recipient and award amounts.

Oh, okay. That's fine. Yes, that's my motion.

Second to the amended motion.

Ms. Malega, all in favor? Aye. Okay. Four to one. Mr. McVoy, name. up next is discussion regarding the palm beach county draft ordinance and regulatory micro mobility devices mr um for civi do you want to talk to us about this nobody do you have a motion to just start discussion can we get my motions for yeah bathroom break real quick it's been two hours okay i'm good yeah comfort break 10 minutes what was at the end i know who was there thank you

Yep.

I know.

Madam Mayor, it is 8-12 and we have reconvened.

All right. Well, at least they grew up natural. I mean, you know. Okie dokie. Here we are. Here we are. We are now at almost the end. B. We are at New Business B. Direction regarding Palm Beach. Thank you. Direction regarding Palm Beach County's draft ordinance regulating micromobility devices. Mr.,

can we make were you going to give us a little chat yeah basically I think Elizabeth went over this with you last time the county has passed this order speak up into the mic a little bit Elizabeth I think whatever your mic doesn't work okay how's that yeah whatever you did like James Earl Jones now there you go yeah so uh anyway um so i know elizabeth over this with you all the county has passed this micro mobility ordinance i think that the real question is do you want to follow along with this do you want your own did you want the county to come and do a presentation on it talk about the pros and cons i'm not sure what direction you wanted to go that really is okay you're just looking for direction okay mr mcboy okay um my direction is

that uh whatever we do that we balance safety concerns or make sure that those are are dealt with well but not at the expense of encouraging micro mobility um that's safe and you know reasonably safe and reasonable and reasonable that we want to encourage um people to use a wide variety of methods of getting around um especially the electric ones because we've got to keep our electric utility going and um that we think about that and that we also get any advice that we get on how to set up our own ordinance if we do that include at least people some people who regularly use one or another form of the alternate micro mobility have you read the ordinance what do you say about the ordinance that they've produced um i i think the there's a piece in there that makes it cut off at 20 miles an hour i think that's pretty reasonable um i would love to see something about helmets um also lighting

I think it's if you're under 16, you have to write on it.

If I could. Mr. Chair Simeon. I mean, your real guts of this ordinance are really sections, you know, four, five, six, where it talks about the safety requirements, operation and safety standards. So what they're setting is kind of a minimum standard. Probably the hardest part about kind of opting out and creating your own is it's PBSO that's going to enforce it. And, you know, PBSO is used to enforcing the county ordinance. And when you have a municipal ordinance, that's different. And, you know, I love PBSO and I work with them in multiple cities, but it's always a challenge because I'm Officer Jones and I'm working countywide and all of a sudden I get assigned to whatever city and all of a sudden there's a tweak. So if you're going to make a change, you might have a little bit of a difficult time with enforcing it. Yeah. That was kind of what I was thinking about. But again, this is the basic safety. This is about as basic as you're going to get. This is a vanilla ordinance to me. They didn't go out there on the limb, but they did talk about safety features.

And I'm assuming that the requirement for helmets which ends at 16 is a statute?

Yeah, well, I know from a motorcycle standpoint, I remember years ago there was a requirement to wear helmets, and then there were several biker parades up to Tallahassee, and then that got repealed.

So there's no requirement now for a helmet? No. So we have more...

more brain injuries organ donations um i mean the interesting side note is the guy that was the director of the health care district at that point wrote a paper for the legislature pointing out the increased cost of trauma and care but then didn't matter they uh the law got repealed anyway so it's been a it's a cost okay um

Thank you. The one part that I do like under Section 2, municipal opt-out provision, in the event a municipality elects to opt out, the provisions of this ordinance shall not apply within the boundaries. I think that us adopting this, and if you read line number 4, upon adoption of such ordinance or resolution, the municipality shall provide written notice to the county. I think having something in place right now is good. I would like us to look at our mobility plan and partner this with it if there needs to be any tweaks down the line. But right now, I think that we need something on the books, especially for PBSO to enforce the complaints at Rolo's neighborhood meeting last month. Now, mind you, half of that is county was. That is their biggest complaint right now, is the e-bikes, the electric scooters, the little moped things racing through the neighborhoods, and eventually someone's going to get hurt. The helmet, my dear best friend worked at the medical examiner's office, and she said helmets are just for... families to be able to view you they don't save lives unfortunately um but i i i want to adopt this tonight and say yes we support it give pbso the tools to enforce and if we want to come back and create our own eventually then i would support you know a retweaking but right now i'm i would like to make a motion to approve this ordinance and adopt it um as part of our new i was just going to say that so i second

You simply have to not opt out.

If you're not going to opt out, then...

But it says we have to take action, at least let them know we're opting in, no? No.

But you're not adopting a new ordinance.

It says that the municipality shall, upon adoption of such an ordinance, so this is if we make our own. Oh, okay. Right.

So when the county passes these kind of county-wide ordinances, it applies unless you opt out. Oh, so I make a motion not to opt out. Right. We would notify them that you do.

I second that. Okay. So we have a motion by Ms. Malik, a second by Ms. May.

Just clarification.

Mr. McVoy?

If we...

opt in or not opt out at this point does that take away our option to change it later no you can later on change your mind and decide in the future okay you've adopted something different and frankly maybe one path is you come up with something the better mousetrap and you notify the county they may tweak their ordinance this is their first effort at it as well so it's an evolving document i wouldn't be surprised at all if cities make some suggested revisions and the county ultimately makes those changes as we start to live with this ordinance right yeah

I mean, it's, it's, it's, and they can't go on the sidewalks. I mean, now we've got, it's every once in a while, it's just treacherous with these bikes out there. Not just, we've talked about the skateboard. We haven't, we're not addressing the skateboards and all that here. It's just the thing. So Mr. Sigrich?

I would agree with Commissioner Malega and May that we would not want to opt out and just utilize this. It's been a problem in our district as well. And we've almost had people killed because of the way that some of these bikes are operating. So I would be in favor of utilizing what the county has. And like we said, if we need to augment, we could augment.

Yeah, I mean, it's very scary. You know, you enforcement is always I mean, I have them I live on L Street and I a few weeks ago, because I'm tight. You know, some kid on one of these was coming up no lights, dark clothing, coming the wrong way up my street. It was like, I almost hit him.

We have one public comment from his Fisher. Maggie Fisher, 508 North A Street. I was just hoping and praying that this is where you would stand so I could come up here and say thank you for taking the county ordinance, saving the city attorney the time, the city the cost of creating the ordinance and having it drag on and on. This gives us something to address right now, deal with the problem right now, and I thank you all for seeing the wisdom of that.

Thank you, Matthew. Thank you. My brother's in Holland right now. I do.

Hi, Matthew Van Vordhuizen 302 North B Street. I appreciate that we are paying attention to the situation here. It is very important to recognize when some people are a danger to everybody around them. And I think we need to extend that further, not necessarily with this discussion tonight, but as we move forward and think about other areas where people are a danger to the people around them, we need to recognize that cars are much bigger and faster than these e-bikes, and they are much more of a danger. And I think we need to address that issue just as seriously as we're addressing this one. Thank you.

Thank you. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Do I have any, do I have a vote? All in favor?

Aye.

Aye. Good, thank you. Moving on. Careful. She's not going gavel crazy. Last but not least, I've never touched, I've never used it. Employment agreement with the interim city manager with Mr. Perry. Motion to approve. Do I have a second? Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. JoAnne Hanrahan, it's unanimous Thank you, Mr for stepping up, we appreciate it, and do I know we have commissioned these reports and comments let's start with district one thing.

JoAnne Hanrahan, i'm just want to remind everybody about the memorial day celebrations on Monday. We have the one at 10 o'clock at Pinecrest Elementary. Sorry, that's funny. Because y'all talked about the education task force for so long. 10 o'clock is the one at the Pinecrest Cemetery on A Street. There is one at 9 o'clock. I'm going to as commissioner and vice mayor made to tell me the address on that it's on federal highway it's on federal highway at wellesley with the constitution yeah yeah that's it nine right federal highway at the constitutional park at wellesley and then there's one at ten if you are a late riser like me and you want to come to the one at the cemetery we have the JoAnne Hanrahan, Pre agenda meeting on Friday.

JoAnne Hanrahan, yep oh the 22nd yeah yes, like. JoAnne Hanrahan, Yes, i'm reading.

JoAnne Hanrahan, Thank you i'm vice mayor may for inviting me to the benefit for come at common grounds for the burrito project, it was nice to share the table and hear good stories. and see an impact. I will say that I was a little shocked that all the people who come here and scream at us about what we don't do and how we don't help people and how we are such bad people. And we're making this ordinance of the public feeding. Didn't see any of them. They're putting their money where their mouth didn't see. And I want to say, I want to thank, I wasn't invited to the sponsor table. So thank you for inviting me. Um, it was, you know, a little mind numbing on some of the stories, um, that some of the things that people go throughout on the streets, But I thought that it was a great way for them to raise funds for the burrito project. I think that Randy's program does great things for the people that he does serve. But again, shocked at the people who just like the cleanups, you come up here and you talk about environmental science and what you want to do. But yet when I go to cleanups, I don't see any of those people. And that's the frustrating part, right? is being here and being yelled at for hours about what a bad person we are or how we're you know white entitled and racist and then those same people when it's time to put their money where their mouth is or invest their time in the city they're nowhere around so I just want to say thank you um the mayor also purchased a table and I think that it was a great event Commissioner Segrich came um the graduation I did cry. I'm not going to lie. I cried a little bit because it was my last graduation. It's kind of bittersweet because the district commissioner had never attended the high school graduations until I got elected. And it's something that I look forward to every single year. Even though I'm kind of a germ folk, we all know that. I clean my hands in between like every 20 kids. But we had 512 kids graduate this year from Lake Worth High. We had an immense amount of children who graduate with above 4.5. We had all three top presidents, salutatorian, valedictorian, were all female this year. And we brought in over 1.4 million in scholarships. So it was just bittersweet for me to be there as my last graduation. And I think that our high school teachers and the staff do an amazing job and um it was nice that it was at one o'clock in the afternoon this year because six o'clock at night we got to be the early school or 8 a.m or 8 a.m um but thank you again for being there and supporting the kids i think it's important that does it even though when i'm not here i still want to be able to support our kids it's just not on stage you can be on the education task force oh that's true sorry i had to i get talked to death

um yes i too was uh glad to be at the ice our lake worth high school graduation it it is moving and it is impressive to see uh in my case i happen to know a number of the students and know that some of them have parents who are sitting in detention camps in this country others whose parents have been deported um and yet they were just hard-working folks in the community um so that was particularly poignant to see people young people perceive for you know pushing through in spite of some really difficult things that have happened in our community um and i'd just like to share one thing from the most recent treasure coast regional planning council meeting um very interesting presentation from a project up there to create a i'm trying to think of the proper name for it and unfortunately none of my phone right so i have a picture of it but it somewhat something along the line of sensory friendly um nature park this was in in um I think Fort St. Lucie, up that way in Martin or St. Lucie County, one of those two counties where they specifically designed it, taking into account the needs that some people don't do well on the neurodivergent scale, don't do well with lots of noise and things like that. Also, some have difficulty communicating. So they came up with some very interesting boards for making it easier for people to communicate a wide thing. It was really inspiring. And they said that we are more than welcome to copy ideas from them. The communication board struck me as something that we could think about somewhere here. So that was positive. uh somebody told me that after at the last pre-agenda meeting that i had to leave part way through to go into the charter close meeting um that i thought that we had had consensus to bring a discussion soon um to a meeting coming to a city near you um of the downtown And I was told that yes, after I left the call, apparently that was sort of stretched and there was concern about staff needed to prepare a report. I would just like to say the reason that I suggested that we bring that back was not to get all embroiled in the technicalities and things that needs a staff report. This is an existing report that we all whoever was on the Commission at that point, which I don't remember exactly where that was in the current makeup of the Commission, but everybody was on the Commission at that point unanimously voted to have that downtown plan be the basis for a request for proposals to go be put together for what to do with our downtown. That then kind of went off in a different direction later on, but we all unanimously supported that and For me, that report was a very successful capturing of public sentiment across a wide range of opinions of what we would like as a community to see in our downtown. And I think that bears us looking at it again and thinking about, okay, how do we want to move forward having heard quite clearly from the community how do we want to move forward with that um so i'm i'm concerned that after i left the meeting that got sort of postponed indefinitely i guess um i don't think we need a the report stands on its own it captured it's a capture of public sentiment um and was well regarded let's talk about it

And it has been sent to us. You got it, right?

Yeah, yeah. But for us to discuss it as a body in public, in the sunshine. Where it needs to be. Where it needs to be.

Okay. That's it. Ms. May.

um just a couple of things the memorial day celebration for the at constitution park is from nine to nine thirty so you could do both i've done both yes no i'm not pressuring anybody but it's from nine to nine thirty and then the other one starts at ten so from wellesley to a street does not take more than half an hour i've done it that's all i'm saying three years the oh yeah it's been going on for years I wanted to thank the Common Grounds for hosting the Head, Heart, and Hands dinner. It was really well done. They had a lot of silent auction items, and people told their stories, and it was a powerful night, and I'm glad that we got to attend that. um there was supposed to be a cleanup on saturday morning there was kind of some miscommunication between the entities running it so it didn't really happen so june 13th will be the next community cleanup for tropical ridge and the hub um and i'll keep reminding us of that can you um include compass because they did one i sent them that one fire and they do want to be part of it okay No, thank you for letting me know. One thing I just wanted to add about the graduation is not only were the top scholars female, but the entire ROTC was female. So the honor guard was all female. So that was kind of interesting. And I do agree with Commissioner McVoy that it those kids showed up and they worked hard and it must have been a hell of a year for them. So I do want to honor them and just say that, you know, I mean, none of us will have to know what that feels like and that can't i mean it's got to be awful um the other thing is and i just just because it popped in my head if you wouldn't mind writing it down because i know that i've gotten a couple questions lately about what is going on at the end of um i think it's 16th which is the north side of the golf course yeah so um it's this it's a street that goes all the way down to the intercoastal and the last time that we had had construction over there a wall and a fence were created like basically stopping anybody from being able to use that access point um the residents on duke are at the end of notre dame and duke have blocked off that access point and so this is really the last one up in college park Well, it's not College Park. I guess it's Eaton Place. So I'd like to just get a report back on what they are doing because it is on the north end of the golf course. I think that we could compromise and make sure that we are doing whatever project is they have to do but also not blocking access and whether that means that we need to clear out of space just south of the what they're doing for an for an in out for canoes and kayaks and and something um i think that's something to look at considering that we've been asking that for a while and um we don't want to we don't want to have to tear something out so i just want to know what's going on there um there was one other thing that i'm sure as soon as anthony starts talking i'll remember um hold on let me just think one second i don't remember oh it was something about a celebration what did we celebrate I don't know. I'll let you know. Can't be that important.

Thanks.

Oh, I know what it is. Sorry. Eden Place. So Eden Place Neighborhood Association has been largely defunct for the last several years, at least since I've been involved with the neighborhood associations and APC. And they had a social event at locals last month and they met this month at APC. last Wednesday and they have organized. They have done elections. They have a president. They're starting to participate again. And it was great to see them so excited about their neighborhood association and for it to be coming back to life. So yeah, that's the last thing. And then that means that all the neighborhood associations in District 3 are functioning and

communicating with each other with the NAPC and therefore getting information to their members and to the residents in their area. Madam, I forgot something. I had sent an email to Mr. Perry and Tiana yesterday asking that the city put out something in regards to Ocean Bridge Commissioner David Hutchins died. And I thought that we could send our condolences from the dais and put out something with the PIO. This is Ocean Race Commissioner passed away. Mr. Segrich.

Thank you, Madam Mayor. I will be pretty quick. Also attended the Common Ground Dinner, a wonderful event. I thought it was great that Randy and the Burrito Project are moving forward as they are, getting their now 5013C themselves and looking to expand and do that. It was great to meet a lot of the people involved behind the scenes. um there as well as um some success stories um from there so it was very very heartfelt and moving um there um I did not make and I want a TV I did um and uh I I was sad I missed the graduation, but I was ill that day. So but I wanted to remind people that even though I believe the deadline is over for the submissions for the two boards, but, you know, People should be submitting their applications for boards all year long because we do get openings. We do get seats we have to fill. And when you put your application in, it stays in there and the clerk keeps track of it for a year so that you don't always have to remember, oh, are we looking at this board or that? Because sometimes they come up suddenly. So if you want to be involved in this community, getting involved in a board is a great way to do that. And you can apply for multiple boards. So I really just want to encourage people. It does make a difference. I will be having a town hall. I haven't set the date yet. But I'm going to try to do a town hall on the code enforcement topics that we had discussed to get some raw resident feedback on that. But similar to with the boards, we're encouraging people. I just want to encourage everyone, keep sending your your your stories your your concerns your questions to us on the commission um a lot of times i i see things on facebook and and it's really difficult for us to comment on facebook because if one of us comments and then another one of us comments we we run the risk of uh sunshine violation so usually um we don't comment at all And I don't want people to feel like they're being ignored. However, for the amount of time it takes to make that Facebook post, you could send that email to all of us, and then we can correspond with you and help you out with it. I will say that staff has been always responsive when those comes in and we try to research and get back to the root of the issue or misunderstanding. And in a lot of cases, we are able to help individuals and staff work through whatever miscommunications were going on and get good progress there. So just want to encourage people to continue to reach out. Don't feel like you're alone when you're frustrated. Just reach out. So one recent story had a resident who was very frustrated about their alleyway, the condition of it and the grading and so on. And when they finally reached out and said, hey, we need your help in this, I brought that to the attention of Public Works. And even though they had been communicating with them, it just took that one extra step and within the week the alleyway began getting regraded um which made the resident very happy so you know don't think that you have to sit on your problems and take the facebook It really doesn't solve the issue. And it's similar to the PBSO app. I keep encouraging people, download the PBSO app, report it. Then if you want to go on Facebook, go on Facebook and talk about it. But unless you report it to PBSO, they just don't know about it. so everybody's hair can go on fire on facebook i mean just yeah little thing just like yeah but it actually it doesn't solve the problem right i didn't share your pvso app with rolo and they none of them had known about it and they were all very excited to share the information yeah so thank you yeah so um so that's all i have uh for tonight great thank you

um same thing I've sponsored a table at the common ground it was I think it was the first of probably many and larger um dinners that they had it um it uh It's good work, and I'm glad that they're doing it. The graduation, yeah, our last graduation, and very bittersweet. And I do, we all share this idea, this realization that our children, you know, you go to Palm Beach Gardens, you go to Boca, it's a whole different story. Our kids, you know, have to decide whether they can go to the prom and the universal trip, if they can do either one of them. where a lot of other kids just can do both because somebody writes a check and are so I mean it's been a traumatic year and I just I love those children and how much um they have been put through and and how they've succeeded um I asked the band director I said oh this is so sad Miss Bales this is my last she goes well next year just come back be in the band and do percussion I'm like all right I can bang a drum uh I will I will have it I will I I think I'm gonna All right, good. Glad to hear that. I had the pleasure of welcoming the Police Academy up at the PBSO is sponsoring something like we're doing with our Municipal Institute, a six-week program of how the PBSO works. They're going to do a visit to the jail. They're going to learn how the PBSO functions. And I think it's a really good opportunity. It was a good full house. We saw a couple of our residents there. And it was great to see how many people. Rosalind Murray, who's the one that organized it, is just, I've known her for 30 years and she's just really remarkable. And I wish them all the success. I did get a 15th Avenue Sal. um the dead ends at the intercoastal i got an email today about um problems down there with noise and people and stuff but we could just take a look and maybe talk to eso about um maybe putting a little more attention down there i'm also concerned about the west side you know lake worth lake worth road where by the high school and i spoke with uh detective no captain car the other day they're working on it but that's become an area of as we get these reports about police there's been stabbings there's been muggings down there it's a little dangerous so um they are aware of it and they are doing what they do then they don't tell us but we know that they're interested in it um other than that I uh yeah our kids I mean just to go there and just think these little children that work so hard Mr City Manager

Mr. Mayor, thank you. Several things. I think the Commission knows most of these issues, but I want to put it on the record for the public. We're still working on the park rangers. I had a conversation with the PBSO this morning. and they're still in the process of putting together our request we put together like a little template that we want to send to them for them to consider as part of bringing the agreement forward so they're still working on answering some questions and getting back and forth with us so i should have that to you shortly so we're still working through that Most of you all have been through the website refresh. I think, Mary, you're the only one that hasn't gone. Yes, tomorrow is your day. For the public, we have a new website that's going to be, well, a refresh of our current website will be launched in about a week. So hopefully, you know, it answers a lot of questions that have been out there for years about the website and makes it easier to communicate with the public so on and so forth and what we try to do is incorporate some of those issues that came up from the commission so most of you all say you like it and you think it's you know the feedback was very good and so we hopefully will move forward with it uh update on the city manager search uh i was in contact with uh sumter He's in the process of putting that information together. He might be sending the Commission a report this week. Once we receive that report, we'll place it. Hopefully we're looking to put on the June 2nd agenda for discussion. So just want to let you know it has been worked on and he's just finishing up a couple of items trying to make sure that they're correct and hopefully it's going on the June 2nd agenda. The code follow-up for the special meeting, for the meeting we just held, the workshop we just held on code. We have a special meeting for the public, and also we're going to discuss those action items that were discussed during our workshop and bring them to the commission so you guys can take a look at them. let us know you know it's fine what direction we're working they'll be broken down to short term and long term so we can get things done earlier and quicker and we know some of those uh some of those items may require an adjustment to the orders so that's that's that's coming your way also uh we we schedule a annex annex special meeting on July 27th and we will discuss the annex building We'll talk, we'll bring forward the report that was done by Public Works, get some information from community sustainability, get your, you know, get your input, as directed by the commission. I spoke with our PIO and leisure services. So they're going to advertise like the commission directed website, you know, social media. We're going to really put it, put it out, inviting guests to July 27th.

So, so if you have any other questions about that, please let me know, but we got an updated agenda with that date on there yet so you know i'll make sure that we get that yes.

In the last on. We had a meeting last Thursday accounting about the pool we're still going backwards and forth through various diagrams we're in the phase now we're. Staff is going to provide the county with some of the ideas, taking all the media that we've had throughout the years, concepts, whatever the case might be, and provide that to the county. They'll put it in a diagram, bring it back to us. And I just want to let you know, based on what the county's looking for and what the city's needs will probably be, he wanted me to relay that the price tag will be more than what both organizations have considered as a budget. So just let you know that.

are we talking about specifics like the um how specific how specific are we here talking about the layout of the process but what about the agreement about who you know who when what who all this stuff that would be part of it but more more importantly we're trying to look at the amenities what do we want in there what they want in terms of a pool is

clearly different than what the city is going to expect but we'll have those amenities in there in the commission so we don't want this so we don't think we should have this but we just want to bring an overall concept to the commission that will include operating costs and what it would take to to get this done so but I just want to make you aware we are still meeting we met met last Thursday so yeah as as as specific because we realized a couple years ago that we were rearranging the palm trees without even a way of doing it so we waste

We used a lot of waste. We used a lot of time that could have been spent a little more productively. So thank you for that.

And last thing, just follow up on the public comments.

Sorry, let me just ask you one quick question about the pool. I happen to just kind of be standing and talking to the head lifeguard one day, and he was talking about the amount of lifeguards you need to actually watch a pool. It is more than even the ocean, believe it or not.

and um I would definitely make sure that you talk with that with them regarding the cost of us running that and as a matter of fact he was on the call perfect yeah he was on the call yeah yeah he did and I was like make sure they hear you yeah okay great thank you uh public comment follow-ups we'll get our get the commission uh some follow-up information about the beach showers as the uh James Moore- And citizen said in the nozzles at the beach checking them citizen request the public request i've sent an email to staff. James Moore- will get an update on the elevator issues half the lights out on the West wall and i'll get a history of a low level light request, I mean i'm i'm sure it might be more into that why they can't do it, but i'll find out and that's about it.

The request was on the list that Melissa sent us, the document that shows all of the requests from last week. It was on that list that it was requested. Yes.

So when I say that, I'm trying to say why. It's been for years. I mean, is it something that we're missing? That's what I'm trying to figure out about the lights. So I'll give that information to you.

Thank you very much.

Madam Mayor, before we adjourn, I just wanted to let you all know that the valedictorian and the salutatorian for the high school will be presented on the June 2nd meeting.

Great.

So I just wanted to make that announcement and that the board applications close at midnight tonight. So anything after that will not be heard at this session for interviews.

Thank you very much. Mr. Torcivia. Have a nice evening. Ooh, that's so informative.

Motion to adjourn.

Do I have a second? Second. All in favor? Aye.

Thank you very much.