City Council - Regular Meeting

Good evening. Welcome to the city council meeting for September 23rd. Madame Clerk, will you please call roll? Council member Dillard here. Council member Lotheian here. Council member Suzuki here. Vice Mayor Casares here. Mayor Reps Chapis

meeting with an invocation and flag salute. And tonight the invocation on flag salute will be given by council member Suzuki. Council member Suzuki. I'm so loud. I didn't need that. Um, in the in the Marvel universe, Captain America once reminded his team, "I'm just a kid from Brooklyn." His words remind us that leadership and service don't come from titles alone, but from the willingness of everyday people to step up for the greater good. As we meet tonight, may we carry that spirit grounded in humility, focused on community, and committed to peace. Let our discussions and decisions be guided by respect for one another and by the hope that together we can continue building a stronger La Mesa. Please rise for the pledge of allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Next on the agenda are city manager comments. I have none.

Community bulletin reports. September is National Preparedness Month. This month we are encouraging residents to prepare for emergencies and disasters by raising awareness and empowering communities take proactive steps and um we've created videos with tips that you can put into action. Uh you can visit our YouTube channel and check them out by going to our website and be directed. La Mesa Park and Recreation Foundation is celebrating 25 years of giving back to La Mesa Parks. Join their 25th anniversary disco party on Saturday, September 27th, 1977 from 6:00 to 10:00 p.m. I didn't know if anybody would pick that up. I'm just kidding. It's It's 20:25. I'm just joking. Um this Saturday um at from 6:00 to 10:00 uh all proceeds from the event will help a new playground in in shade at Aztec Park. Visit lame messa parks.org. Learn about the benefits of tree and how to care for them during a tree planting demo this Saturday, September 27th, 10 a.m. at Harry Griffin Park. Wednesday, October 1st, California clear air day. Join thousands of commuters in San Diego in region by biking, walking, or taking public transportation, car pooling, and more to your destination. Plus, MTS will be offering free rides on the trolley and buses that day. The city and MTS will also be handing out free giveaway items at the La Mesa Boulevard trolley station at 3 p.m. Mark your calendars for the 52nd annual La Mesa October Fest happening next weekend. Savor German food, drinks, and dance and non-stop music on two lively stages. Festivities kick off Friday, October 3rd. For more information, LA visit lamea octoberfest.org. Uh save the date for Life 101 Expo happening on Thursday, October 16th. We'll be hosting this event inside the Police Department community room. Participants will learn life skills like

personal budgeting, renting, job tips, roommate hacks, and more. We share we'll share more details in the upcoming weeks. That is October 16th, Thursday, October 16th. Please put that on your calendar. Um I will now hand this over to Vice Mayor Casares. Thank you. I have uh no reports, but I do want to wish a very happy and peaceful high holidays to the Jewish community as they enter this season. Thank you, Council Member Suzuki. Uh Council Member Loian.

Yes, I have a few. Um, Hienda Casadores is opening this Thursday. A lot of people have been very excited about it. Um, I'm going to be in Nashville, so I'm going to miss it, unfortunately. Uh, the owner asked me to express his gratitude and appreciation for the city La Mesa moving two big garbage cans that were bolted to the sidewalk right in front of the restaurant next to the outdoor dining patio. He's over the moon. Said thank you. Uh, and you guys also removed the garbage cans from the dining patio at Johnny Bees, which was great. Um, I'm also happy to announce uh that our city manager made some really cool moves last week to improve maintenance and beauty of La Mesa's rideways, gateway entrances, and medians. And I love the stated goal. We want the public to notice and our residents to take pride entering into and driving around Laame Mesa. So, that's great news for the Jewel of the Hills and also to um our website's been revamped. Looks fantastic. But something that I just uh found, I think actually um Amanda helped me find it uh is um transparency has just went like this. If you um go to our homepage, there's a little robot and if you press on it, there's a box that comes up that says active developments. You press that box and you know every commercial project that's happening in La Mesa at all stages, which includes uh discretionary review, entitled construction plan review, and under construction. So, everybody wants to know what's going on in their community. So, it's fantastic and the and the graphics are beautiful. The information is detailed. There's a map. It's amazing. Uh, and then lastly, I want to thank the city of La Mesa for adhering to the United States flag policy and flying our city hall's flag at half mass last week uh in honor of Charlie Kirk, who was murdered in broad daylight in front of thousands of people, including his wife and kids, on September 10th at the Utah Valley University campus. Thank you. Um, council member Dillard.

Thank you. Additions or deletions by the Yes. None from staff.

Okay. I have a proclamation to read. Um whereas city of La Mesa is committed to ensuring the safety of all those living in our city, fire remains a serious public safety concern both locally and nationally and in the presence of lithium ion batteries and many household devices introduce unique fire risks. Most of the electronics used in our house daily, including smartphones, tablets, laptops, power tools, ebikes, e scooters, and toys, are powered by lithium ion batteries, which if misused, damaged, or improperly charged, can overheat and set fires or even explode. The National Fire Protection Association reports an increase in battery related fires, underscoring the need for public education on the use of lithium ion batteries. Residents should follow three key calls of action related to safe use of lithium ion batteries. Buy only listed products, charge batteries safely, and recycle them responsibly to prevent battery related fires. The 2025 fire prevent prevention week theme, charge into fire safety lithium ion batteries in your home, serves to remind us the importance of using, charging, and recycling lithium ion batteries safely to reduce the risk of fires in homes and communities. Now therefore, I, Mark Rapastath, the 23rd mayor of the city of Lame Mesa, in the entire city council, do hereby proclaim the week of October 5th to the 11th, 2025 as National Fire Prevention Week in the city of La Mesa and um that we urge all residents in the city of Laame Mesa to charge into fire safety with lithium-ion batteries and do the three things. Buy only listed products, charge batteries safely, and recycle them responsibly. Thank you. Next on the agenda, item number 52 is a present uh presentation of the new building space needing analysis for city hall and post office relocation to allow for the expansion of the library. I'll hand this over to Mr. Hora.

Thank you, mayor. I've just got a few brief background comments before I bring up our consultant to do a presentation. Uh a library needs assessment study was presented to the city council on July 25th, 2023. Three options were developed. Option one was a vertical expansion of the library. Option two was a horizontal expansion. And option three was a new library building. The city council directed staff to proceed with option two, horizontal expansion into the existing post office space. The city council civic center subcommittee recommended that the city consider constructing a new building as part of the next phase of the civic center redevelopment where the post office in city hall could be relocated to. In order to prepare for a new city hall, an architect is needed to prepare a space needs analysis for a new building. The analysis will determine what size the building should be that includes space for a new city hall and post office. Staff contacted post office real estate personnel to let them know of the city's plans to conduct the space needs analysis and invited them to participate in the process. A letter was also sent to the post office vice president of facilities on July 30th, 2025 requesting the post office commitment to relocate to a new smaller facility. Copies of the letter were sent to Representative Sarah Jacobs, Representative James Comr, who's the chairman of the committee on oversight on governmental reform in of the US House of Representatives, supervisor Monica Montgomery step, Miguel Aosta, the director of the San Diego County Library, Anita Teapua, who's the postmaster in Spring Valley, and Jacqueline Hammonds, property manager for the postal service. We have not heard anything back yet from the post office. On March 25th, 2025, the city council awarded a contract for a

space needs analysis for city hall to HMC Architects. Kyle Peterson, principal with HMC Architects, is here to make a pres presentation and then he and I will be available for comments and questions. I'm going to turn it over to Mr. Peterson now.

Thank you, Greg. Thank you, council members. I'm excited to present this uh to you all today. It's a culmination of a lot of work and a lot of dedication and thought. So, first off, the team that worked on this uh was comprised of a city staff executive team. Uh it was a collaborative process uh that took place over the course of about a week's time uh of close interaction. Uh that design workshop was really instrumental to developing great understanding about the existing facility and the needs of the city executive leadership team. What we did uh to kick off that design workshop was host a visioning session with city staff to understand their needs and hopes and dreams for this new facility. And what you see on screen here is the guiding principles that were resultant of that visioning session. Uh first and foremost, accessibility, uh look and feel, dynamic spaces, and future vision. Um, ultimately this city hall is seen to be a space that provides a fantastic view of city government and meets all the administrative needs of both city staff and public. So, as you can see, the existing city hall is is cramped uh and aged. Um, it's it's in need of replacement. It's about that time. um some of the word storm that you see on the left, those were the thoughts about what this new facility could be and how it could impact both city staff and the community. So, the process really consisted of cataloging all the existing city hall spaces, engaging in surveys and existing uh staff counts with department heads. We then took that information and used our professional experience to rightsize all the existing spaces to modern government office standards for function and position. We increased the quantity of conference room and collaborative

spaces and storage to align with those same modern government office standards. We also incre increased restroom stall count to align with California plumbing code requirements. And then we considered a office space for future staff growth of 10% over time. And so what that yielded was a future city hall square footage of 26,000 square feet approximately, which when you compare that to the existing current city hall, it's about a 6,000 foot delta, 5,000T delta, about a 25% increase in size over today's building. You can see here the list of various spaces that are required as part of the city hall uh by department on screen. What what is also included on this space program is the post office that's relocated from the library building that's at about 5,000 square feet yielding a total building size of 30,950 ft. We then engage in an exercise with the department heads to identify the location of their various offices and other spaces within their department and their relationship to other departments within the city hall. uh you know we're looking for a collaborative nature and uh trying to figure out uh how best to optimize interdep departmental adjacencies. This uh plan that shows those interdep departmental adjacencies takes all of that into account and is a good diagram for future city hall. The previous slide was the first floor. This is the second floor. Um, one thing I do want to note is there's a clear delineation between public uh front of house spaces including the council chambers and other spaces versus the private staff uh spaces. So maintaining those clear uh divisions creates safety for staff and and it's a good thing.

We then took the space diagram that we were coming up with and looked at the potential site configurations that were available and we as you can see we came up with a handful of those. You see six on the screen. We probably came up with twice as many uh to look at different site configurations and their impact on both the uh civic center site and the broader community. And all of these yielded uh suboptimal results ultimately culminating in the the diagram that you see here on screen which was the preferred layout uh both by city staff and and yours truly. Um what this identifies is the city hall located just to the east of the police station off of University Avenue. Um what that provides is great visibility from uh the street and uh gives you that civic presence. Um and and you know it just it's a great location for that. Uh creates a civic plaza to the south. Uh we are looking at the adjacency of the the police station and the library and there's a great correlation between those entries really creating that focused civic plaza. And then located to the south of that, there's the potential for residence uh residential development that could be uh you know utilized as part of this uh development. We then put together a timeline for this uh project um over a period of time that includes internal processes, RFP negotiations, a period of design and construction for each of these potential projects ultimately yielding the city hall occupancy mid 2029. That's the target for that. It's a good estimate uh that includes contingency for float and other sorts of things. Lastly, uh, costs. So, looking at that

30,000 foot city hall yields a cost of approximately $35 million in project cost when you account for construction, soft cost, professional fees, and project contingency. Do you have any questions?

Yes, thank you. Um, I'll start. I don't know if I'll ask either. I'll just throw it out to both of you. So you and I, we talked about this about the potential obviously of the new city hall, create more space to expand the current library and create space for the post office if they so desire to stay there. And what I had brought up to you is something that's been talked about probably for the past decade. That to be able to have the potential to create more parking than than a space for every person if there's potential residents, but to expand parking beyond what we think we need now to expand it exponentially to to accommodate all possible contingencies in the village as well. And we have housing to our south and to our north. And now we're going to have it to our east to we have this opportunity with this space. What's going to be the plan? How do we use maximize the land to create as much parking as we possibly need?

One of the things we spent quite a bit of time on was multiple parking scenarios. We can we can build it one new building, city hall and the post office, and not build any structured parking. But if we want to maximize the space um we want if we want to do commercial, if we want to do residential um and we want to maximize that, we're going to need more structured parking. The structured parking could would be for the public um visiting city hall and the post office for residents and also potentially parking for the trolley andor the bus that's here as well. So we've looked at lots of levels of parking and it's it's scalable. So, we can do we can do go down. We could go down two levels and we can go out as well.

Okay. So, we're considering going down and up. Okay. Um I'll go to Council Member Dillard.

Uh thank you. Uh first, Mr. Peterson, thank you for this presentation. Uh I love visuals. Um I do much better with visuals and uh I can appreciate uh this potential uh design. Um, I especially am excited about uh our library. Uh, this has been talked about for years now and I'm hoping that uh some of the people uh that represent the you know uh pushing uh the library either being expanded or moved or found another location. I hope that they're happy with this new size uh because I I think that it was a a good choice uh for council members to choose this. Um and I also um want to know if you do do all of this and it is in place by 2029 hopefully, are you going to just would that mean phases? And if so, where would you start with all of that?

It's definitely going to be con phased construction wise. The thought is that potentially we engage a developer to help us build this out and then let let the smart people that do construction construction phasing figure that out. But the the great thing is we have 2.5 acres of vacant land right now. So there's a lot of flexibility in the phasing whereas past civic center moves did not have that kind of flexibility. We had to take buildings down. We had put up temporary fire stations. Um there was a lot of moving around that we've done to get to this point. We have a lot of flexibility moving forward.

And the last thing I wanted to say was and thank you for that information. Um is uh about the parking um uh the mayor brought it up. It is a serious uh concern that we do have and I would like to see maybe options for both both for the residents that if we do have a apartment complex that there's uh parking for them and also uh parking for others that would like to you know walk around either um go to the trolley station uh or uh to the village or wherever else it is that they would like to you know leave their car. And I believe right now in this current location we have uh several car uh charging stations and we want to you know keep that as well. Um or expand that. Um but yeah it is an issue and I think that whatever we do we need to keep that in mind and put parking wherever we can.

Thank you. Thank you mayor. Um, did you have your hand up, Vice Mayor Casaris? Then, uh, Council Member, if when you want to talk, if anyone just Sorry to interrupt you because I don't always look over, could you just buzz in, just have your green light on, then I'll know. Thank you.

Thank you to city leadership and also to yourself and your colleagues who worked on this. Um, I also really like the visualization. Um, and, uh, I'm really excited about this. I'm also really excited about the the opportunity to bring more um residential um onto this site. Um I think a lot of times with housing, uh the conversation is like, well, put your money where your mouth is. And we did that right next door with um the old police station. Now we have residential. And I think bringing that here is really important. And I'm glad that that was conveyed and also brought into this design. Um, since we're talking about parking, um, I'm curious if there's I know this is way further down the line, especially because the residential, like we're going to be here while that's getting built, so residential won't even start until uh the new city hall is is ready, but have we considered it being paid parking so that we ensure that there's turnover and it's not like being used as airport parking, if you will?

Certainly, that'll be considered. Okay, wonderful. And then um do I understand properly that this will also be done under a project labor agreement? It yes, under the current project labor agreement, anything over a million dollars. Excellent. Um I'm So this will way be way over a million dollars. Yeah, I'm I'm really excited about that. Um as as we know, uh speaking of the airport, Terminal One just opened today and it was done under a project labor agreement. It came in under budget and it and it looks great. So I'm I'm excited that we'll have this big project under a PLA. Thank you, Council Member Loathian.

Okay. Thank you. Um, so the the the amount that you just uh quoted was about $35 million. How much more if you did a parking structure just ballpark that would add to that $35 million? At least double. It' be 70 million at least. For parking structure, it would be 70. Okay. $70 million. So a parking structure which is just concrete and lines is more than libraries and post offices and offices and and air conditioning and everything.

Very expensive. Jesus. Okay. Um this sorry the second thing is um I know LA Mesa is fiscally sound and I'm very proud of that. But I remember years ago that we were worried about unfunded pension obligations and liabilities. I haven't heard anyone talk about it for years. But is that something is that a black cloud looming on the future where we really can't be talking about projects like this? That cloud's still there but it's much smaller and it's under much better control than than it has been in the past. But certainly we we need to look at our finances as we we if we undertake a project of this magnitude. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions? Okay. I'm going to go speakers. Uh John Schmidt followed by Michelle Huey.

No. Okay.

Welcome. Hope you'll uh forgive the mask, but my wife and I are proof that CO is not gone. Um, so we're over it, but just in case, we're being kind. Um, my name's John Schmidtz, and as you know, I've been involved with the Friends of the Lamesa Library since 2008. and somebody asked what we think about this and we have not had a full board meeting to evaluate this but generally speaking and there is another board member here and there's some other library supporters here uh I think we're all very very pleased to see that we're this close to finally making some progress on getting not only a better uh city hall for the city employees for all the hard work that they have to do but to get a library that's suitable for a city the size of Lame Mesa. Um, I have some personal comments. As some of you may know, I worked for the city for nine years. I I actually sat in the trailer right there for about eight of those years. Uh, I'll be really glad when that trailer is gone because it was old then. And if you look carefully, you can see rot around the edge of the building. Um, one problem I've see with the site plan layout, all of them continue to keep the driveway off of University Avenue right where it is now. Um, if there's in the process of this development, if that driveway could be shifted a little to the east or somewhere else as somebody that comes from the north side of the city, comes down Baltimore and then has to turn in here as the two council people from the north side nod their head. It It's an adventure sometimes.

And then when you get in, you got the ramp coming up from the police building that it hasn't happened very often, but one time I came around and a police car was trying to get out. You know, that's it's a throat right there that if in the process of this development, if you can fix that, that would be great. Lastly, I really liked the quad concept in your uh options. uh that would provide as you know we do the third grader field trips every year and it's so popular and we have enough funding coming in we would like to continue that for the foreseeable future. 30 seconds.

Having that area available for, you know, either starting or ending activities as part of that, something like that would be really nice. I'm step boy. Can I see a show of hands of those of you are here for the library? Thank you.

Thank you. Michelle Huey, followed by David Harris. Welcome. Good evening, mayor, council, and city staff. My name is Michelle Hwy. I am a local business owner in the village. I really like the plan for the new city hall, especially the prominade version. It looks very nice with new buildings, public spaces, event spaces, and a parking garage. However, I do have a concern, which is parking. Recently, parking has been a hot topic amongst businesses, residents, and customers. Mainly that there isn't enough, and we keep losing more. Although the parking structure in this plan is nice, having a four-story apartment complex above it brings a parking load that will fill at least twothirds of that structure. When you couple that with the three new highdensity underparked apartments, there's no extra room in the structure and we need more parking. Let's talk parking by numbers. Randallam, the jewel. The community lost 24 spots once the property was fenced off and additional 17 metered spots on Palm Avenue during construction. This loss in parking has already negatively affected some businesses. Once this project is complete and leased out, there will be at least 35 residents looking for parking. US Bank City Mark. Currently, this lot holds 80 parking spaces. This lot is full all of the time and the community has had access to this lot for decades. Once this project begins and we lose 80 parking spots, our village will fill the effects. There's not enough parking in the village to absorb those 80 spots plus the overflow from the Randolamp project. And once this project is complete, at least 37 residents will be looking for a place to park. 8181 Allison. Currently, there are 20 to 30 cars parked along Allison Avenue and Date Avenue in front of the city hall every single day and night. This speaks to the future of highdensity underparked developments that are coming our way.

Special events and church 20% of each calendar year has a special event on it. 55 days a year, a special event brings 100 to 130 vendors to our village. These vendors are directed to the Date Avenue parking lot, leaving closer parking for customers. And every Sunday, All People's Church directs their congregation to the Date Avenue lot in order to keep parking available for the other 45 businesses that are open on Sundays. Once the new city hall begins construction and we lose the date avenue lot, where will everybody park? Time gap. There is a large time gap from today until 2031 when the parking structure would be complete.

30 seconds. During this gap, the businesses, residents, and customers will continually lose parking spaces. Without parking, we lose customers. Without customers, we lose businesses. And without businesses, we lose our vibrancy. What plans does the city and the city council have with regards to this impending parking crisis? If you haven't started working on this problem, what are you waiting for? This parking structure with a fourstory resident apartment complex above it is not the answer. Thank you for your comment. Your time is up. Thank you, David Harris.

Good evening, honorable mayor and city council members. Um, David Harris, resident of Lame Mesa for 20 years, vice chair of the planning commission, and I worked along with colleagues on the library task force three years ago, and uh, presented the recommendations to the city council at that time. So, it's really exciting to see this plan come forward. I fully support it. Um, I think that, um, the city staff input and the consultants work together has come up with a very viable plan and I look forward to seeing this plan into reality over the next six years. Thank you.

Thank you. Was just the presentation, right? We're not taking action. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. We're now moving on to um public comment. Uh first public speaker is Barbara Barbie Wheeler followed by Cindy. Welcome. Good evening, Mayor Council. I want to open by publicly offer an apology to Vice Mayor Casardis and Council Member Dillard. I made a statement that was unkind and I apologize for it. I am representing Belfflower Drive and the residents who live on this beautiful small street, many of who are here tonight. We are dealing with one big problem on our street. A drug flop house run by Richard Evans. He needs to be stopped now. The residents have been dealing with him for over 10 years. We have police activity on our street all the time. They keep telling us their hands are tied. Well, council, untie the police department's hands and let them take him down. This is not the first time we have asked for help from the city council. Please listen to us and make some decisions that will take care of this problem for good. Richard Evans has been running an illegal drug rehab house forever, calling it different names to cover up the wrongdoings. names such as a sober living house, a halfway house, and now a

drug rehab facility. This house is full of drug addict drug addicts, crackheads who walk up and down our street as as high as a kite. In the past, there have been a there has been a registered child molester when a woman with a young child was living there, a felon on drug charges, as well as many lowife creepy people. And now we have some idiot who thinks it's a good it's good to place a youth group home next door to a drug house. Vulnerable youth should not be next door to a drug house. This needs to be stopped now. Several of my neighbors are looking into moving off our street, not because they want to leave, because they have young children and fear for their lives. I am saddened by knowing this is going to happen. I myself will not move. I myself will fight to save Bellflower Drive from the druggies and the youth home. I will continue to come to council meetings and you will hear me hear me speak on the matter until it is cleared up. Removing the drug house's priority, the youth home we can address at a later date. If it is a well supervised in housing and special needs children, as we have been told, it might be a good thing, but not next door to a drug house. Thank you. Thank you, Cindy Mina. Followed by Martha Burke.

Welcome.

Hey, my name is Cindy Maya and I wanted to give you an update on what has happened at the Maritage project on Jericho Road. On Sunday, September 7th, police were dispatched to the property. As the property had not been secured once the church left, vandals had entered the property. The police noted broken windows, open doors, lights turned on, and graffiti on some windows. They um investigated every room to which they had access. I emailed Louisa Fado the next day. She's with Maritage and she notified her manager, Ephraim Jolson, who responded to my concerns. He stated that the best way to secure a site is to demolish the existing buildings. He suggested that I contact Laura in the planning department in order to expedite the demolition plan approval which has been prolonged. According to him, I did not get a favorable response to any suggestions of security measures. I let him know that I would not be contacting Laura to encourage that the plan approval process be ex expedited. I believe that the meticulous plan approval process is for the benefit of the community. That afternoon, I notified Lynette Santos of the vandalism. Lynette has been very supportive of the neighbors throughout this entire process. Later that evening, Mr. Jolson did email me and stated that a temporary fence would be constructed. Lynette Santos emailed me on the next day about this new security measure. The fence was installed on f on Friday, September 12th. I don't know what happened behind the scenes, but it seems that Mr. Jolson did have a change of heart about adding some security measures. Unfortunately, it was noted yesterday that the fence was unlocked and wide open. It appears that Workman had left the fence unsecured.

And um I did notify Lynette Santos and Louisette Meritage yesterday evening. The fence was still open after midnight. This afternoon, I drove by and the fence was closed. That was a good turnaround. That was a quick turnaround. So, in light of the recent vandalism at the property, we as neighbors are going to start a neighborhood watch group. Claudia Ortega, who is a crime prevention specialist with the police department and a police officer, will be meeting with the neighbors on October 21. Claudia did tell me that the police had received calls back in August. 30 seconds. I'm sorry. 30 seconds.

Oh. Of suspicious activities at the property. We need you as our elected officials to advocate for us with any future issues that are sure to arise as this project goes forward. I don't believe we as private citizens have the clout to get done what needs to be done. We will be making reasonable requests of the developer that will ensure the health and safety of our community. Thank you. Thank you, Martha Burkels, followed by James Mulligan. Good evening.

Good evening. Thank you for the opportunity to speak to you tonight. My name is Martha Burles and I represent a group of almost 30 people who want to have more off leash space at Macarford Park. I've been a resident at of La Mesa for 21 years. And when the Sun Valley Golf Course went out of business and the grounds were opened up for residents as green space, I was thrilled. I've had dogs most of my adult life and it was nice to go there and just play with my dogs and let them run and sniff and explore. Then the leash signs went up and the enclosures went in. That was really a blow. Um there's a group of people who come to the park every day with their dogs and they all run and play together. It just doesn't work in the enclosures. They are too confining. And in fact, the AKC AKC recommends that a minimum size for a dog park should be one acre. And they don't even come close to that. One of my dogs, Churro, is a 84 pound Great Dane Belgian Malinoa poodle mix and has enough energy to run a small village. He needs to run distances and as much as I'd like to take him up to the mountains to run and hunt every day, it's not practical. It takes up too much of my time and it is too hot in the summer. Many other people feel the same way about their dogs. They need to give their dogs the space they need to run and explore. They don't have the time or the resources to head east to the mountains or drive all the way to the coast to the dog beaches. if you could please just run a fence from the base of the two paths that run that lead down to the grass um just south of the tree line of the five row tree that is a little bit south of the second enclosure. You don't have to move or change the enclosure but just include it in the off leash area we are proposing. As it is, we tend to allow our dogs to run off leash anyway, but every now and then the humane society shows up and ticket tickets one of us for $300. $300 a pop for a dog can get really expensive. Um, it really stings and our dogs really aren't bothering anybody because most of the people that go to MacArthur Park are

dog people. It is a good community of all of us that come with our dogs. We know all the dogs by name and we even know some of the owners names. It works that way for some reason. We talk to the dogs and we know each other. And when the dogs are in a large space frolicking and playing is a high level of joy. Examples of similar dog parks that we are proposing are the Grape Street dog park and the Laurel Street dog park in the city of San Diego. Those are both very large and of course all the dog beaches up and down the coast are really good. Many of us have adopted our dogs because we're aware of the high number of dogs piling up in the dog shelters. It's a travesty that people that it's a travesty that people adopt or buy dogs to abandon them later. We are doing our part to rescue these dogs that desperately needs homes. We need the space to give our dogs to have a great life, too. There are plenty of studies that show that dogs on leashes and in confined spaces exhibit much more hostile behavior. And I've seen that myself. To roam to roam free is what they crave and it makes them happy. Healthy dogs and it makes happy healthy pet owners, too. So, please end this ownorous practice of finding us $300 a dog.

Thank you for your comment. Your time is up. Open up the space. Thank you. Thank you, James Mulligan, followed by Brenda Leak. Welcome.

Thank you. Hi, Mayor. Hi, city council. I'm here in support of expanding the dog park. I've been a resident of a Mesa for 14 years. I've had high energy large uh dogs that whole time, which basically requires me to drive down a dog beach so they can properly be exercised because all the dog parks and the jewel of the hills are far too small for high energy dogs. And I think uh it'd be great if we could add to the agenda the request to expand this dog park area. Um, and I believe that the city that builds itself as the jewel of the hills deserves it a jewel of a dock park. That's all. Thank you, uh, Brenda Leak.

Welcome.

Thank you. Thank you, um, city staff and council. Um, I feel like I want to give you a little background about myself. Um, because some of you may not know what I'm involved with. For the last p decade, I've actually been a resident in the downtown village. I'm very passionate about the growth. Um, I'm about to invest in another restaurant in the downtown village and I own one of the most vi vibrant and prominent businesses in of restaurants in the village. Unfortunately, I feel many people think she's crashing it. She's always busy. What a great location. But it's also nearly bankrupted me twice. And that's not included COVID or the riots that we had 5 years ago. I've had to pivot my business several times and fight my way in every step. And no one talks about that. And that's really not what I'm here to discuss. I'm here to discuss the fact that for five years I've been asking about outside dining. and I have not had a phone call, an email or a conversation about it. It is really disappointing and frustrating to me. I believe in you and I know that you have many, many other projects going on. I know that there's a lot happening. However, when I attended the workshop last week, and it was the second workshop for the downtown village specific plan, I felt this was just another check in the box for you to get the grant money, the reimbursements, or whatever that is needed to help offset maybe some of the consultants that you've paid to be there to talk about. I mean, we were talking about the uh sub area outline of the village for at least an hour with everybody in the community. There was no talk of the parking crisis. There was no mention in this downtown village specific plan about the library

or the expansion of the civic center. Why would that not be involved and included in that plan? We were left feeling like we were talking about um parking in that area that we're not even going to have. I apologize. I'm I'm a little upset and disappointed um with my situation, with where I am with you. I feel um I feel disappointed that there's been no there's just been no outreach to me to date. And here I am trying to budget again for the year where I stood here and talked about this last year and I have 30 employees wondering where we're at and it's a constant constant pivot. Again, I know there's many other things that are going on, but we're have another restaurant that's opening. It's a brand new restaurant. They have their outside dining. I support Hosianda. I'm excited about it. But where are we and where am I going to be with a new restaurant when I can't get it for 5 years with curbside? I look forward to communication and working together in our partnership. And I don't want to have to get media involved, but I will.

Thank you for your comment.

Thank you. Um, conflict disclosures by anyone on counsel? All right. Our next is a board and commission appointments. We have um 11 applications and 11 openings for the youth advisory commission. So um that worked out. I'll read the names to you. Uh these will be my my motion to appoint Haley West, Maya Sap, Ken Rosider, Grace Regan, Nate Madrid, Aaliyah Lee, um soil, Willow Gomez, Miriam Garcia, Loretta Kurada, um uh see Alexandra Rapis, Lacy an Campia, and that's my motion.

Second. Thank you. Sorry, it's floating very. Motion carries with all council members voting yes. Thank you. Um Okay, we don't have any uh other speaker cards for consent calendar. Okay, so consent calendar 10 to 101 to 10.11.

I'd like to uh pull 10.11 just for a question and comment, not for a separate vote. Right. Go ahead. Yes. Okay. So, uh I think this is our first uh neighborhood traffic management uh program quarterly report and I was hoping that either Mr. Throne or Mr. Canard could come up and just kind of tell the public what happened. Um I I um I attended two street meetings with you and uh there were about an hour and a half and there must have been 30 40 people and I was really impressed and uh people asked the craziest things and you answered everything professionally and calmly. One neighborhood wants 18 speed bumps and you just rolled with it. So I just want to hear your the highlights of your quarterly report.

Sure. Um, currently we have two neighborhoods that we're currently meeting what we call phase 2 traffic calming. Those are neighborhood engagements. We're really trying to resolve a lot of issues out there as it relates to traffic. Those two neighborhoods are on Lois and Dugan. And we met with actually Lois last week at a second meeting. So our first meetings we usually go there there to basically engage with the neighborhood, find out what their issues are and then we come back with concepts and ideas. So we finally came back to Lois last Wednesday. It was raining, but we came back and the neighborhood showed up and they came to kind of a conclusion of what they want. So, they ended up wanting four humps, just so you know. And then we actually meet with Dugan tomorrow night. And otherwise, everything's going uh very well. Uh we're currently completed quite a bit of our phase one trafficcoming. Probably about 75% are now completed. And in phase three, we have broken it up into a little bit of pieces. we've done all the things we could do with city's internal staff and then we're going to put the rest of the project out to bid for construction

and then any updates on the temporary speed hump program. Uh what I can say is we've ordered some temporary speed humps to I don't have a timeline yet on that but they've been ordered so we hope to be able to use those as examples because a lot of residents said well I'd like to drive over one. Yeah, I'd love to test the do a test. So, we're going to put a couple of those here around the civic center so that the neighborhoods and the residents can go and test them and see what they think and get feedback. Okay. Thank you. I'll make a motion to approve consent.

I had one just comment. Apologies. Um I just wanted to highlight uh 108. Um I I let our city manager know that I had a comment um beforehand. Um it is the um uh grant with the alcoholic beverage uh control, the ABC. I'm really excited about it. Um Laame Mesa Police Department applied for it and we will be getting about $60,000. Um I'm just going to read directly from the staff report very briefly. This grant is designed to use local police resources within their primary jurisdictions on an overtime basis to implement ABC's minor decoy shoulder tap programs and conduct informed merchants preventing alcohol related crime tendencies or impact inspections. Um, as someone who was uh hit by a drunk driver in La Mesa last year, um it's makes me really really happy to see that um I know our police department and our city has been taking this seriously, but that um ABC also saw the need for us to have this at our city and um being able to use our own local police um on overtime rather than having to bring anyone else in, I think is really important. So, um, while the chief just re-entered, I am just shouting out the the program with the ABC and that grant. I'm really excited about it. So, thank you to, uh, yourself and all of your officers for working on that. Motion carries with all council members voting yes.

Item 11 is a second reading of an ordinance. An ordinance of the city council of the city of Lame Mesa, California amending title 24 of the La Mesa Municipal Code to add chapter 24.054 entitled objective design standards regarding housing development pursuant to the housing accountability act. I'll make a motion to adopt.

Motion carries without council members voting yes. Item 112 is a council scheduled ordinance. An ordinance of the city council of the city of La Mesa of California amending section 2.08.01 010 L Mesa Municipal Code to establish the first regular city council meeting in August and second meeting in November as a summer and holiday recess respectively. I make a motion to adopt and I'll second that.

Motion carries with all council members voting yes. 121 consideration of possible approval of La Mesa Community Parking Commission recommendation for Lame Mesa Village enhancement fund program and adoption of resolutions appropriating funds and modifying program guidelines. Good evening, Mr. Bman.

Good evening, mayor, members of the council. In 2019, the city council approved the village enhancement fund program. The purpose of the VF program is to encourage ongoing investment in the downtown village, attract customers to businesses, and to create entertainment opportunities for residents and families. Just some over some key elements of the program. Um, eligible participants, nonprofits, uh, organizations, and private businesses can apply for funding for special events, promotions, programs, and advertising. Those activities must take place in parking district 1. Um those applications must demonstrate an area benefit to the businesses in parking district 1. Uh the program functions on a reimbursement uh basis um u up to the uh approved funding uh by city council. The application timeline each year is from July to September. July 3 from July 1st to July 31st um the application window is open. In August, the parking commission hears um um agendaizes the item and makes formulates a recommendation to city council. And then in September uh either the first meeting or the second meeting, that recommendation goes to council um um for possible approval. The VEF program is funded using 50% of annual net parking revenues um from the prior fiscal year. This year we have $63,368.50 available for the 2526 program year. The parking fund's current balance is $517,435. This uh is including the 6336850 um uh being recommended tonight. The program this year received five applications. uh the parking commission uh heard those uh applications at the

August 19th meeting and is recommending an even distribution of the funding to all five uh applications. So with that, the parking commission is or the staff is recommending city council consider and possibly approve the parking commission's recommendation for VEF program funding and approve a resolution allocating the 63,369 from the downtown parking fund to the 26 2526 downtown VEF budget. The parking commission is also making a recommendation, a second recommendation tonight. Um, since inception, the village enhance fund program has funded three events that existed prior to the programs uh inception. Um, it's funded two new events and one new program. The table before you shows the years each event was funded and the amount of funding each has received. The total amount of funding since program inception is is roughly $501,000. Um, and this this number does not include the 6336850 potentially being allocated tonight. So during the current application cycle, no new events applied for funding. While the program has successfully helped initiate new events, the parking commission's position is that the program has largely become a funding mechanism for ongoing events. To balance the desire to support community events with infrastructure needs in the village, the parking commission is recommending as follows. Uh an annual cap of $50,000 for the program. um modified eligibility criteria to only um allow for new special events to apply. Um they are also asking um for some added discretion to be able to provide a zero funding recommendation in a given funding cycle. Currently, the parking commission does not recommend zero funding under the

provisions of the current program guidelines. And lastly, um, asking the city man the council to authorize the city manager to approve these changes to the program guidelines. So with that, staff recommends council consider and possibly approve a resolution approving the parking commission's recommendation to modify the village enhancement fund program. That concludes staff's presentation. Staff's available for any questions you may have. Um, council member Suzuki and council member Loian. Mr. Deadman, I have a question. Sure. So you you mentioned that currently the the way the program operates it doesn't allow for a zero zero funding. So what does that mean? So no matter what if you apply you automatically get funding.

Now what it means is that the the parking commission has been operating under the protocol that if let's say there's $50,000 available they're going to recommend 50,000 full dollars to fulfill council's direction to the parking commission assuming they qualify for for funding. Um, what the parking commission is asking for is the ability to provide a a zero funding recommendation. It would still go to council. Um, but that zero funding recommendation would be voted on by them and it could be for things like if they didn't feel like the program was new or the event was new, if it was a rebranded event, they would have that ability to um to recommend a zero funding to council. So, that's basically what they're asking.

Member Loian. Hi. Hi, Lyn. I I like these changes. Um I I think it's kind of crazy that you have something as profitable as Oktoberfest getting parking meter money. So doesn't make sense to me. Um 20 years ago I was on the parking commission and I remember back then I asked for parking meter money for cleaning the La Mesa and and litter removal and watering the plants and I was told no capital improvements only. So I like the idea of the meter money going back to mostly uh capital improvements. So I think we're definitely going in the right direction. Council uh Council, thank you. Um um how much how much money have we spent on this in the past? Um

total since program inception about $51,000. Yeah. And that's over the program's been around six years. We did lose one year to COVID. We lost fiscal year 2021 when the when the program was canceled or or temporarily canceled. So, it's it's five years of program funding, five about $51,000.

Yeah. I I feel like the 63,000 being able to split that evenly um is probably the best that we could we could do. Um and you know, I approve um of going forward with this. Uh I think that you've maximized um the entire plan. So, I will be supporting this. Thank you, mayor. Comments or questions? I'll entertain. Someone wants to make a motion. We need two separate two separate. There's no need for that. Uh a sample motion, if you're so inclined, is just to approve staff recommendation.

Second. motion carries with all council members voting yes. Thank you. Item 13 is council initiated. I will hand this over to Vice Mayor Casaris.

Thank you. So, um, many of you in the audience have, uh, have heard, uh, residents from Belfflower Drive, including Barbie Wheeler, who spoke, um, earlier this evening, talk about, um, a sober living facility, um, on the street and, uh, on their street. And that was something that she brought forward at uh, the very first meeting that myself and council member Suzuki um, were sworn in at. And um it was immediately something that um I felt and I know I'm definitely not the only person on the council that felt um was something urgent that we needed to address. And um as uh as we've shared with residents and um unfortunately our hands are pretty tied um by state fair housing law. That being said, um I have spent a lot of time looking over um potential ordinances including um Fountain Valleys um in in California and um trying to find creative ways for us to um attempt to solve this problem. Um I don't want to overpromise and that's a big reason that um establishing an ad hoc subcommittee is the action tonight. rather than bringing forward an ordinance that may not be legally sound um that that may fail or that may um you know unjustly u overregulate uh facilities um that may be following um the laws and and coexisting. Um I I do believe that there are ways that group homes and sober living facilities can can coexist in our residential neighborhoods. There are examples of them that no one knows about because they don't cause problems. Um, but this is not one of those. And um, I I hope we

can find a solution um, for Bellflower Drive. I think we can. Um, and uh, I I've been discussing for months with Councilwoman Loian um, about ways that we can we can figure this out. Um, and so, uh, you know, I just want to state one more time, my goal is is not to overrestrict, um, licensed, properly run, safe facilities that are peacefully coexisting. Um, they shouldn't really feel the effects of a future ordinance. The goal is um for us to put a stop to owners who are in it because frankly um it does happen not just here where owners take advantage of folks who are trying to um get back on their feet and and stay on the wagon. Um, and I think that's something that's really important and we see facilities not just here that are being run um, properly and that are providing huge resources to the community and um, and so that's that's why I am making this recommendation. So um, I am going to um make a motion to uh, not only approve this item but also to appoint um, Councilwoman Loian since we have already been working on this together um, to the subcommittee. Oh, I apologize. We have speakers first. That's my bad.

Or can we talk first? We can talk, but we can't motion. That was No, I know that. But comments up here first or comments out there first? Why don't we let the speakers talk? Okay. Uh Barbie Wheeler followed by Carly Robinson.

Thank you again so much. I'm addressing agenda. I thought it was 131 but 141 presented by Vice Mayor Casardis relating to forming a subcommittee to review existing regulations governing group homes and facilities. We the residents on Belfar Drive want to see the city work with this committee to make regulations very strict to close down Richard Evans drug house. We have met our limit on having fights in the street, people swinging knives around, and drug overdoses on our small, quiet street that we cannot enjoy because of the dangerous people living in the drug house. With this subcommittee, you, the council, can make strict rules on these facilities, not only on Bellflower Drive, but on other places in La Mesa as well. Please make this a priority in your planning meetings and think about all the people you'll be helping. This is a good plan and I thank Vice America for putting this together and I hope that all council members join her in making this happen. We need this for all of La Mesa. Not and don't remember it's not a band-aid to put on Baleflower Drive. Rip that band-aid off and get to work on this immediately. Don't put it on the back burner. Make it priority. And thank you,

Carly Robinson, followed by Emily Schneider. Welcome.

Thank you. Um, first I I really want to thank um council members Loathian and Kazarus for all of your work. Um, a little background on this. I've lived in this neighborhood for almost 45 years now. I grew up playing on Belfflower Drive. Um it was such a great culde-sac as a kid. We would always, you know, just have tons of street time because it was really safe place considering there's only three houses including mine at the end of the street. Um, but about 10 years ago, um, when my son, who is now in fifth grade at Lemon Avenue, um, was just born, we were constantly dealing with calls to the police, um, for a variety of different really unsafe things that were happening on our street. Um recent, not even that, probably a couple years ago, we were coming home from a little league game and had both of our boys um on the back of our golf cart and witnessed a man standing right in the front of our driveway whipping around probably a 10 to 15 foot chain. This same man was the person who was appointed as the house psychologist. Um probably not qualified for that position. Um ju that's just a small example. This man ended up serving some time for that, which is a relief. However, the owner of the home, who's truly only in this for profit, he welcomed this same person back into his home upon release. And um the person he was trying to hit was actually the owner's son. So, if this gives you any idea about the character of of this man, um let that sink in. Um and then I'd also I'd also like to mention just the absolute chaos that he fosters by bringing into his home. So, um, last year my son's bike was sitting at the front of our driveway and this man repeatedly, we had him on our cameras repeatedly coming to our door asking to see the little boy who was driving riding the bike. This man was probably 5 years younger than I am. We called the police. The police contacted the owner

and then he happily removed him from the house only to welcome in somebody else who later that week was um having some sort of episode in our street with a knife and required a tactical response from La Mesa PD. So um yeah, it's just not it's not safe. So I just really really thank you for taking this seriously and hope that we're able to work together to create some sort of reasonable solution um for us. Thank you. Thank you. Emily Snyder, followed by Billy Belts. Welcome.

Thank you. Good evening. My name is Emily and I was born and raised here in La Mesa. A few years ago, my husband and I purchased a home on Belfflower Drive because of what this neighborhood has always represented, which is peace, safety, and community. We were excited to move into a quiet culde-sac, start our family, and surrounded by long-term residents and families who deeply care about this city. But what we didn't know was that there was an unlicensed, unregulated group rental home operating just a few doors down, which has really become an unlawful public nuisance to the entire street and surrounding neighborhood. Earlier this year, I welcome my daughter into the world. I want nothing more than to provide her with a safe home and an opportunity to ride her bike and play outside without being on edge. Instead, we are faced daily with a constant stream of cars speeding up and down the street at all hours of the day and night, coming and going from this particular residence. We've had our cars broken into and our possess possessions stolen. We've had strangers walking slowly past our house, some visibly under the influence, staring into our windows. We've made multiple complaints to the non-emergency line. Police activity at this residence has become a regular occurrence and is so incredibly unsettling to our family and makes me concerned as a new mother. There is an LLC registered to this address as Green Homebuilders LLC with a business description of business building consulting. I'm not sure that that aligns with what's occurring at this residence and it may be a misrepresentation. In addition to the question of legality of the business operations, we must also consider the California laws and local ordinances that are in place to protect our peace, quality of life, enjoyment of property, and address nuisance behavior. The volume of disturbances and complaints show that this residence is clearly a public nuisance as defined by the civil California civil code sections 3479 and 3480. Rather than performing his responsibilities as a landlord to prevent and address these violations, the landlord is doing the opposite and perpetuating the s the situation with no

consequences or accountability. And now to make matters worse, a youth group home is being proposed right next door to this residence. Placing vulnerable children next to a house that has repeatedly attracted police activity and house sex offenders is not just misguided, it's irresponsible and dangerous. We know that you're aware of the criminal activity and concerns of our neighbors and the amount of city time and resources dealing with the incidents associated with this property. At what point is the crime going to be concerning enough to shut this facility down? At this point, the city is knowingly accepting the risk of this property and accepting the consequences of neglecting the civic duties to keep our community safe. I'm not here to villainize individuals who are working towards recovery. Those services are important and I do support fair housing, but they must be regulated, transparent, and placed in appropriate locations, not hidden in quiet culde-sacs where families and children live. We're asking you to do the right thing and address irresponsible and unethical landlord at the end of Bellflower Drive. Please investigate this facility, enforce the laws, and protect the rights of residents in La Mesa who deserve the safe neighborhoods we have worked so hard to build. Thank you.

Thank you, Billy Belts, followed by Ela Weston. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Um, a lot of my notes have already been covered so far, uh, with some great points made by Vice Mayor Kazarees and, uh, my neighbors. So, uh, I won't say that again. But um I do want to emphasize that when we say that this is an unsafe house, we don't mean that in a way that there seed people that scare us, right? Uh we mean that in a way that it's literally unsafe. Uh it's unsafe for our kids to be playing out in a culde-sac uh in front of their home. And this uh house really is a ticking time bomb. something is going to happen. And uh I know that Barbie said some neighbors are thinking of moving, which is true. Um my wife and I uh cannot afford to move. We we put everything that we have into this home. Uh we have a son that we uh love with everything that we have and we we so we don't know what to do other than come to you um ask for help and not just support vocal support but action um quick action uh because like you've heard from all of us something is going to happen and uh we we we don't want that to be the case. We want it to be solved um in a way that is uh yeah, we we we need you guys' help. Um you were elected to take action and this is where we're depending on you. Thank you.

Thank you, ILA Weston. Welcome.

Thank you so much. Uh my name is Ilka Weston. I am the proud co-founder of TAP. that is transparency and accountability um for those under probation which includes youth. We have a horrific uh I mean you could call it a pandemic but drugs and alcohol plague everyone and it's heartbreaking. I remember when I was I was born and raised here in La Mesa. The Sausage King was great. My mom got her favorites. It was wonderful. And I remember walking in South Park and I saw this big huge mansion in the middle of the block and there I stop and say, "Hey, a couple of my buddies bought a mansion in Sherman Heights. Is this so you can walk home from the bar?" You know, I didn't know, but that was Pathfinders, a really respectful facility that has sober living options. Now, there are no regulations on sober living, but there are things that can be done. I talked to Jeannie Mallister today, and she was very sad that she couldn't write a statement in support of our wonderful Vice Mayor Casaris. Thank you so much for always caring about the people. It is vital that we hold them accountable because what we see right now is what we saw in the college district. And we see a lot of people do that with rehabs. They buy a home, they smash six people in a room, and then they charge them $1,000 each. And that is ridiculous. There is no complicity or or or regulations. And I applaud the city council of La Mesa for taking it on. And I volunteer my time happily because the one thing I want is

for people to have second chances. Two people that I'm representing as an advocate, a trans woman who they didn't check on, lay there dead in a room for three days in a rehabilitation home. Another person was ready to go and he didn't even commit a crime. He was just present where one was and is now dead as well. These are people who took these things seriously. We should never call it a drug house, but obviously the complicity of the homeowner

is taking advantage of it. And right there it was clearly stated he has it listed as a building services. right there. He broke the law. There is complicit direction of these regulations and I'll happily send it to those that I know on the board and it's nice to see you, council member. Um, I knew one of your employees. Yeah, you advertise with me when I was with La Mesa. Uh, I just want you all to know that you can count on me. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Lotheian.

Yes. Um, thank you, Vice Mayor, for bringing this up. I I have been so perplexed as to why this house has been so awful and there seems like there has been no strategy to take care of it. I just don't understand. I' I've been selling real estate for 23 years and there's been other homes in La Mesa that I've seen the same problem. The neighbors just cry about it and I just don't understand why something can happen. I'd love to get your notes because you were talking about absolute ordinances that could absolutely help us. Um but what I did is I've been studying this house. First of all, the name of it is handedome detox house. you go on the website and it seems like a it seems legitimate, it seems professional, it seems caring, it's if I had a problem with drugs and alcohol or knew someone, I would go, "Wow, what a great place to go because it really is presented nicely." Um, however, um, I asked Chief Sweeney to uh to uh provide me with a police summary report and he did it today and there's 380 entries. Now, 311 are are are proactive, self-initiated. They know that that house is such a problem that the LMPD is cruising it constantly. However, on that same summary report, um there was uh different calls for trespassing, fighting, partying, cars almost hitting people, theft, disturbing the peace, domestic violence, drug overdose, preserving the peace. And I'm just saying to myself, how awful for this little neighborhood to have that kind of criminal activity coming out of that house. And um I I hope my frustration is over that we haven't been able to do something and we actually do do something. Um because I just believe that when you become that much of a nuisance house, there should be no more looking the other way. We we we just cannot. And uh let me see. Oh yeah, another thing too is on his website he is it's advertised as a licensed facility. I called Sacramento different numbers. I you know I spent an hour calling different places. I went online. There is no license. There just isn't. Then I also online researched and apparently you're supposed to um when

you do a sober living house and this has medical they talk about detox medical facilities medical personnel that they're supposed to have some sort of a zoning was a stipulation of it. I did check with city management today and they said actually it wasn't. Um but that may be something we could do. So anyway, I'm looking forward to it. Um we're not going to drag our feet. We're going to we're going to work quickly. I'll hand this back over to the vice mayor to make a motion.

Thank you. I apologize that I tried to cut you all off before. Um, sometimes you get caught up up here, but um, I would like to make a motion um, to approve this item that I brought forward um, with the recommendation of Councilwoman Loian um, being the other council member along with myself um, on this subcommittee since we have been um, talking about this and working on this together. One sec. Okay. Motion carries with all council members voting yes. Thank you. Uh item 14 are council committee reports. I'll start um with council member Dillard. I have

Okay. Oh, council member Lotheian. Council member Suzuki. just that the San Diego Community Power Board will be meeting this Thursday at the Port of San Diego at 5:00. It's also going to be available online. Okay. Uh Vice Mayor Casares. Okay. Anyone traveling? All right. Uh city attorney remarks. We're adjourned. Oh, I'm just going to make one clarification. The flag at half mass was for September 11th, just so you'll know. Um we're adjourned until October 14th.