City Council - Regular Meeting

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I'm I'm holding. I'm holding. I'm holding. Good evening. Welcome to the city council me city council meeting for April 14th. Madame clerk, will you please call roll? Council member Dillard here. Council member Lotheian here. Council member Suzuki here. Vice Mayor Kazarez here. Mayor Rapstatis here. We begin every meeting with a flag salute and invocation. And tonight's flag salute and invocation will be led by Vice Mayor Cassadus.

Thank you very much and good evening everyone. Um we are in April. I can't believe it's our first meeting because we had three weeks in between. Normally we only have two, but uh this week is dark sky week in the United States and next week we have um Earth Day. And so I hope you all enjoy um the dark skies that Mission Trails Regional Park has to offer. That's going to be your closest location. Um and so I invite you all out there to enjoy. Um and I want to give a special thank you and shout out to our environmental sustainability commission and their commitment to a greener future for La Mesa. With that, please stand for the flag salute.

Ready? Begin. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. That's how I do the flag salute. And I was at a meeting this morning and they said, "Why do you say ready begin?" And I said, "Because everybody starts off." And I So, thank you for That's a very classroom thing. Thank you. Uh, city manager comments. I have none.

Right. We have community bulletin reports. Bear with me. We're looking for participants for the 20 uh the 27th annual La Mesa Flag Day Parade. Local businesses, community groups, and performers are encouraged to sign up. The parade is on Saturday, June 13th on La Mesa Boulevard. This year, we're going to be honoring America's 250th anniversary. So, please save the date. And if you're interested in being in the parade, please contact Parks and Wreck. Celebrate sustainability at the Laame Mesa Earth Fair this Saturday, April 18th, from 11:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. at MacArthur Park. This free community event features echofriendly vendors. Uh sustainability resources, food trucks, and kids zone for family fun activities. Uh save a life with blood donation. We're hosting a blood drive at the Adult Enrichment Center on May 4th, 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. Make an appointment online today. And one last thing or two last things. I serve on the Salvation Army Croc Center. Actually, I served there before it was the Croc Center and it was just being built and I was in charge. I chaired the theater portion of that. So, I've been there since uh 1998. Well, we're having a an event and it's called the Brave event and it's April 25th and it's exclusively for young ladies and we're probably going to have 270 to 300 girls there and it's a life-changing event and I know that I've invited the city council to be there so they could see women in leadership and I know that they've attended and thank you for doing that. And so if you're interested, please contact the Salvation Army Croc Center. And here's my last thing. I've been a resident of Lame Mesa for 59 years and I've worked on safety patrol at every school that I worked at. It's four schools. I rode my bike to school. I had a paper route and I was in safety patrol when I was a child and then as a teacher I ran it. And so here's what I'm

going to ask people to do. Please tell your friends this. Stop at stop signs, drive the speed limit, stop at stop lightss, and put your phone away when you're driving. if you could spread that word and for the seven or eight people that are watching me at home I would or you know it's early in the meeting so I you know I'm just but okay nine or 10 late but the point I'm making is please spread that word because that's one of the problems we have in every city um we don't get any money for tickets so enforcement is just for safety I mean we get a little bit of money but it's not helping the bottom line it's pennies so what I'm trying to tell you is please don't be that person because you're going to f you're going to see me following you maybe all the way home to talk to you, but also don't be that person because if we all can do the right thing, it's going to make our city safer. So, please do that. Vice Mayor Casarus,

uh, Council Member Suzuki,

um, I have a couple. Um, the first one is that at on April 18th, it today is also National Gardening Day, which is not a day that I usually celebrate. By the way, I'm killing my plants, but um, La Mesa Library will be hosting something for me and anybody like me, on April 18th at 2 p.m. They'll have a master gardener tell us how to make gardening accessible to all ages and abilities. So, if you're interested in maybe getting better, that would be a great time. Um, the second thing I'd like to do is just I'd like to reiterate what mayor just said. Uh, this morning when I was taking my my daughter to school, I had to honk at someone to stop them from passing a red light and just going right and hitting us. And and so please, I I feel like it's getting a little worse for some reason. for whatever reason, we need to really contract back into really being mindful because really just that split second is not going to save you that that five minutes that you think you're going to get and it could hurt someone. So I I' I'd like to just reiterate mayor's wishes. So thank you.

Leave early. All right, Council Member Loian.

Yes, I have a couple. Uh piggybacking on your announcement about 250th birthday for the Flag Day parade. So, uh, we are having, uh, the 250th celebration of America at the Flag Day Parade. Uh, it's actually going to be a whole weekend. The Friday night before this, uh, Saturday morning Flag Day parade, which is June 13th, we're going to be showing Top Gun Maverick at Harry Griffin Park, giving out popcorn and flags in hopes that whoever gets flags shows up at the parade the next day with their flags. Uh, we're also going to go all out on the parade. Um, I know that I have got two golf carts. I'm short one so that every single city council member can be on a golf cart in the parade. So, I've got drivers and golf carts for you guys. Uh and um the the the thing that we're going to be doing that's really crazy different is we're going to be decorating the entire village, Mr. Camera, the entire village in patriotic red, white, and blue bunting. And so, it's going to be from the start of the parade to the end of the parade. We are hoping for, you know, 100% business participation because it'll be quite the scene if we have nothing but red, white, and blue bunting on both sides. Uh the um let me give you some information about that bunting because it's free. The city's providing it. Uh it comes in two sizes. Uh one that's window and door size and one that's like railing size and wall size. Um the you guys, the businesses give the city the measurements and the city will do the math with the the number of buntings that you're going to need. The deadline for ordering, I know how businesses are, you're so last minute, I am, uh, is th next Thursday, April 23rd. You're going to contact either Lynn Deadmond or Leslie Row. Their emails are leda.gov or lro@ city of lame messa.gov. Um, they're going to deliver it on on June 1st. It'll be up from June 1st to June 15. Enough for two car shows and one Flag Day parade. So again, very excited about it. We even have a guy singing the national anthem all the way through the parade. So it's going to be a very big deal. I'm excited about it. So, thank you.

Okay. Thank you, Council Member Dillard.

Yeah, I just have a couple announcements. Um, one of them is about the San Diego County Law Enforcement Memorial Foundation. Just want to remind people if you'd like to attend, it's always a very nice um uh memorial. Uh this time we'll be um uh honoring uh our own uh Laame Mesa PD uh uh police officer uh Lauren cuz Lauren I want to say Lauren Craraven. Um and um it's going to be on May the 6 at the San Diego County Administration Center. That's 1600 Pacific Highway. That's where it always is on the Northwest Loan at noon. That's Wednesday, May the 6th. Uh, and then I also um wanted to announce that Sandag uh we are um pleased to announce that Bike Anywhere Day will return on Thursday, May the 21st. Uh on this day, participants are encouraged to bike to work, school, or anywhere and stop by one of our 100 pit stops between 6:30 and 9:30 a.m. to receive a free commemorative t-shirt. Eligible registrants uh will also be automatically entered for a choice, a chance to win uh one of five ebikes courtesy of Ride Panda. And um they have registration. You can go to sandag.org/ orbikemonth. And um so th those of you who are bikers, um that's all the announcements that I have. Thank you.

All right. Thank you very much. We're moving on to additions and releasions by staff or council. I'm from staff. Thank you. Uh presentations. The vice mayor has something special to present. So I'm going to let her come out to the microphone out in front. Oh, thank you. While we get that microphone up, I'm going to not for those, I got something else. going to invite up um Laame Mesa's own Miz Senior California Maggie Espinosa.

All right. So this evening we are so excited to honor the new 2026 Miss Senior California Mason Maggie Espinosa. I'm going to read a little bit about her, but she's actually a longtime family friend. We met when I was in high school and so I'm so glad to be celebrating her. Um she went out on her own this year. She had never done pageantss or anything like this and thought to herself, I could do that. I love my community. I want to represent. And um her her talent was opera. She's an opera singer. So she brought some wonderful musical theater uh experience. Myself and the mayor have um like we all do. But tell you a little bit about my guest. She's been a travel journalist for 25 years writing for the Oakland Tribune, the San Diego Union Tribune, and guest spots on KPBS, XEV, and KUSI. Eventually, her work was featured on the Travel Channel, NBC Nightly News, and in USA Today. Maggie has learned skills through the years, segueed into an online business. This includes a website and blog, The Global Personal Shopper online shop, thousands of social media follows, consulting, and running the Travel Writers Pad Airbnb in Mana. Maggie has published two travel guides. First, The Privileged Pooch, Luxury Travel with Your Pet. She has the cutest little pup. and on a mission about her 800-mile walk to visit California's 21 missions along the El Camino Rial. In a commitment to her field and at the age of 58, Maggie enrolled in SCSU's hospitality and tourism management masters program, earning her degree in and graduating Sumakum. This past February, Maggie ran for and won the 2026 Miss Senior California, a pageant highlighting the achievements and continued hopes of women ages 60 plus. platform is anchored

in the importance of reaching to new heights no matter your age. And don't hesitate to change or grow into the next version of you. So congratulations to Maggie Espinosa, the new Mid Senior California.

All right. Well, thank you everybody. I am a longtime resident of Laame Mesa. My husband and I bought our first house here during 1992. We paid $170,000 for it and at the time we're like, "Oh my god, how are we going to do this?" But anyway, we loved it. We We still own the house and that is the house that this travel writers had Airbnb on. So, um I I still shop Lame Mesa. I do all my stuff at La Mesa and I love the farmers market. So, thank you very much everybody. I really appreciate it. having you in a car at the uh at the parade.

That's how you qualify, right? Perfect. Grab the microphone. Next, we have a proclamation uh proclaiming April 18th, 2026 Arbor Day. I'm just going to read it right here from the disas because it's going to be accepted by parks and wreck. Whereas in 1872, John Sterling Morton proposed the national sorry Nebraska board of agric agricultural a special day set aside for planting trees. This special day was called Arbor Day was first observed the planting of more than a million trees in Nebraska and Arbor Day is now observed throughout the nation and the world. Trees can reduce erosion of top soil by wind and water, cut heating and cooling cost, moderate temperatures, clean air, produce life-giving oxygen, and provide habitat for wildlife. Trees also increase the value of our homes and neighborhoods and parks, and enhance the economic vitality of businesses. Trees, wherever they are planted, are a source of joy and spiritual renewal. Um, the city of La Mesa was awarded a grant from the state of California to develop a urban forestry management plan which was published in June of 2022. City of Lame Mesa has been recognized as a tree city by the National Arbor Day Foundation for 45 years and deserves to continue its tree planting activities. And the city La Mesa Park and Wreck Foundation is hosting the Lame Mesa Earth Day Fair at MacArthur Park on April 18th, 2026 with family activities to celebrate and support efforts to

protect our trees and the environment. Now, therefore, I mark the 23rd mayor of the city of Mesa and the entire city council to hereby proclaim April 18th as Arbor Day. So, thank you for that. And I have two more proclamations, so buckle up. The next one is got it out of order again. Pardon me. Next is proclaiming um April as arts and culture creativity month. Arts and whereas arts and culture and creativity month is an annual statewide celebration established by California legislature to recognize and celebrate arts. The city of La Mesa recognize the arts, culture, and creativity and think they are essential elements that enrich the lives and promote diversity, understanding among all the individuals in our community. Arts, culture, and creativity strengthen community identity by celebrating the unique character, heritage, culture, and aesthetics of La Mesa. The city of Lame Mesa values partnering with local, regional, and state organizations to promote the arts. And the arts and culture commission of La Mesa was established in 2021 to lead efforts to advance arts through programs, partnerships, and community buildings and the and art in the parks with artist work public and art programs and the San Diego art matters capacity building program. Now therefore, I Mark Rapistthus, the 23rd mayor of the city of Lame Mesa, and the entire city council do hereby proclaim the month of April as Arts and Cultural Creativity Month. Thank you for your patience. Our last one is for volunteers. The month of April has been designated as National Volunteer Month in the United States, providing an opportunity to celebrate and encourage volunteerism.

The volunteer program of the city of La Mesa encourages engagement and civic involvement of volunteers in all areas of our community. La Mesa volunteers work in partnership with staff and elected officials to maintain the community where the residents and visitors feel safe and ensure a delivery of highquality services to the community. The total volunteer effort of the city of La Mesa since the beginning of the program has included more than 2,429 individual volunteer placements for a cumulative total of 958,100 hours of volunteer service projected through the fiscal year. And I just to be clear, I um other people did the other 50 hours. I just did the first part. Just kidding. Just see if you were paying attention. So that's that's almost a million volunteer hours by the people that volunteer for the city of La Mesa. So that's a big deal. Um this successful community volunteer effort has resulted in invaluable assets to the city and its residents that include 20 programs each week for older adults, community and park cleanup efforts, and public safety support and services. The city officials and the staff wish to extend their sincere gratitude for all the numerous contributions, our volunteers and how they helped the jewel of Laame Mesa. Now therefore, I mark Rapis staff as the 23rd mayor of the city of Laame Mesa and the entire city council do hereby proclaim the month of April 2026 as volunteer appreciation month. And one thing that we didn't put in the proclamation is the offset of costs that volunteers have allowed the city because they volunteer. We've been able to do so many other things that we'd normally have to pay for those services. I volunteered on the park and wreck. Uh I was a

commissioner for that. and there's 14 uh um commissions and and what they do is they offset the cost of everything else that we have to do. So, it's it is a service to the people, but it's a service to the city financially, too. So, thank you for all the volunteers. Um, next on the agenda is public comments. Our first person is Barbie Wheeler. Welcome. You can come on up. He won't hurt you. He's safe. He's wearing a Padre hat. Welcome. Thank you.

Okay. Good evening, Mayor and Council members. Could I have you pass? Thank you. I'm handing you a copy of an email you received from one of our residents on Belfflower Drive. I have highlighted the points he made. I will not cover all because of the time limit. Point one, if Costa Mesa can do it, La Mesa can and should sober living spaces ordinance. Check it out. Point two documented police cars to facilities on Bellflower Drive. As of March 24th, 2026, two police cars, six officers responded to a call, a young girl, 14 to 15 years old, yelling, "It is not safe here. It is not safe there." And using some very, very bad language up and down the street. She was walked to the police cars by the officers yelling loudly, "It is not safe here," etc. A man, manager of the drug house, came and took her back to the house. The officers left and for a half an hour after they left, she continued to yell the same thing over and over again. How is this keeping her or us safe? Why did they not take her to a safe place? Who's in charge? Point three, expansion. Sober living operators earn 15,000 to 45,000 monthly, which encourages druggies like Evans to run a drug house that causes trouble, not gives help. He has been playing games with the city for years. Wake up. Stop him. And to you, city manager, I address this. Who is in charge of giving licenses to group homes or sober living houses? Do you really check the people

out as well as check the home out? Why would you approve a group home close to a so-called sober living home facility? Also, the neighborhood. Why put either in a small neighborhood like Belfflower Drive? We the residents do not like or want either on our street. It makes too much traffic at all hours of the day and night. Our house is not sa our street is not safe for anyone to live on it. Several of my neighbors are looking to move from home their from the home they have raised their children from birth just because of what's been allowed to happen on our street.

Please, please stop all of this. You can do it. Just do it now. Thank you. Thank you. Next on the agenda is conflictslo disclosures from anyone on council. Next is public comment on consent calendar. Uh yes, mayor. I just wanted to pull uh 9.7 when you get okay to that. We're going to start with 99. We're going to jump to that and uh Mr. Tom Ritz,

welcome.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor, city council members. Uh, I'm here about the uh the new drainage that's going to go in on um Johnson Drive. I have the property that's adjacent to it. And I'd like to thank the city and especially uh council member Loathian for seeing that we had a problem and doing something about it. In years past, uh we were a little gunshy of ever bringing anything up to the city because when we brought something to the city, they always seem to find a problem with us. So, this has been taken care of very well and uh I want to thank the city engineering uh and the whole city staff for what you've done. But uh again, council member Loathian, she discovered an issue. She followed it through and is given relief to the neighborhood. the flooding uh you know that property had six inches of water all the way around it uh during the the major flooding. So hopefully this takes care of it. Uh and again thank you. I've been a lifetime member since 1959 in the city of Les.

Very nice. Thank you. Thank you. Um next is item number 101. Joseph Crier. Oh I'm sorry. That's That's council initiated. Never mind that. Now we're going to go to 97. You want to pull 97? Yes, please. Sorry. Thank you, mayor.

Um I just wanted to um uh give a little bit of background. I'm very excited about 9.7. Um but I did want to share a little history if that's all right. Um, I actually brought this motion uh as a uh H Heartland Firefighters Commission to the H Heartland Firefighters um about expanding a drone program. And I want to thank uh Chief Sweeney, who isn't here right this minute, um uh for um uh allowing me to share my idea and offer to assist uh or give assistance uh uh by the police department. uh on behalf of H Heartland firefighters. And my initial um uh motion was to help cover uh areas where our uh responders are at a fire and are told that there is another fire nearby. Uh and uh having a drone uh ability for the firefighters would allow them to send that drone to the second fire to try to assess if we should pull firefighters from the initial fire that they were called to. And this will help protect our firefighters, um our land owners, and of course our residents, not just for La Mesa, but throughout the region. And so, um, I was I want to thank the commissioners that, uh, sit with me, uh, who, uh, you know, fully approved this and also, uh, special recognition, uh, to, uh, Jeff Logan, uh, who was, uh, so helpful in, uh, the staff process. And also, a special thank you to Chief Sweeney and

Chief Co, uh, our, uh, chief firefighter. Um, I really appreciate this. I'm very excited about it and I hope I hope that that this uh grant is awarded and that we will be able to uh not just help more of uh the police department but also our um our very valuable uh firefighters. So, just wanted to say thank you to all uh and recognize and and I hope that the grant comes through. Thank you. And oh, and thank you to our Congresswoman Sarah Jacobs for her leadership. Thank you. Thank you. So, we have um consent calendar 91 to 911. Oh, I'm sorry.

Sorry. I want to pull uh 95 for a question and 99 for a for a comment. Okay. Okay. 95.

Okay. So, there's a question for the city council. Uh a couple of months ago, we had a facade improvement program on the consent calendar for the Goodwill building. Uh we didn't have a discussion. We didn't have any questions. We just rubber stamped it and we had a huge public blowback about the change to the facade. So, I want to ask my colleagues on the city council, have you received any emails, phone calls, uh, messages, texts, or anything from anybody about the Warm Hearth? Okay. Okay. I have received nothing. And the Warmth building doesn't have the same vintage historic feel as the Goodwill building. And I think that the the design is actually an improvement, but I just wanted to make sure so that we didn't get you ignored us. So, that was the question I had for my council members. Thank you for answering. And then, um, I would like to add on to Mr. Thomas Ritz as well. Um, I have a picture. A picture's worth a thousand words. I want you to see what this family was going through on Johnson Drive. Okay. So, what you have here is you have a drainage ditch. And the drainage ditch did not have concrete. It was just dirt. So what ended up happening is over the years the water kept rushing through the yard on Johnson Drive and it ate and eroded the yard until there are places where there's only an inch of dirt left. Obviously there's going to be uh could uh foundation issues. Um I was worried that a huge storm could wash the house away. So um I want to thank uh Carmen Kulie Graham. She called me and she during the storms of December 2023 and January 2024. She goes, "Laura, you've got to go see this house uh and see what we can do." I want to thank uh Greg Hymore so much. Uh I know how hard it's been getting all the environmental reviews and I'm environmental uh approvals and then after that getting construction bids. I'm always like I'm in private sector so I'm like let's get it done. Like we can do this in six weeks but it took two years and four months. Um so thank you Mr. Ritz for coming in tonight. Um I cannot wait to see your the drainage built and your

yard done. Maybe put some flowers and stuff. Thank you. That's it. Does anyone want to pull anything else? We have item number 91 to 911. I'll entertain if anyone wants to make a motion. Second. Thank you. Mayor, it looks like you might be signed out of the iPad, so I apologize. Do you mind just saying your your vote alone? I

Okay, thank you. Maybe you need to be signed back in. Motion carries. It's all council members voting yes. You check and see if I'm still Sorry everyone. Thanks. Next on the agenda is item 10.1, electric bike safety pilot program ordinance. And I think uh Miss Lee, you're going to be presenting. Thank you.

Thank you. Um mayor, good evening, mayor and members of the city council. Um next slide, please. Thank you. The item before you this evening is the first reading of an ordinance adding chapter 12.38 to the Laame Mesa Municipal Code to establish the Laame Mesa Electrical Bicycle Safety Pilot Program pursuant to California Vehicle Code sections 21214.7 312.5 and 22651.08. In September 2024, the state enacted Assembly Bill 2234 authorizing cities in San Diego County to regulate certain electrical bicycles. This authority expires on January 1st, 2029, unless extended by the legis legislature. On January 27th, 2026, council member Suzuki brought forward a council initiated item requesting local regulations for electric bicycles and the council unanimously directed staff to draft an ordinance to support the safety of riders and the public. Next slide, please. The proposed ordinance creates the Laame Mesa electrical bicycle safety pilot program and adopts regulations consistent with AB2234 and the California Vehicle Code. Key elements include prohibiting children under 12 from riding class one or class 2 ebikes. Class one and class two ebikes can reach up to two 20 miles per hour. Class one requires pedaling, while class 2 can accelerate without pedaling. Class 3 ebikes, which can reach 20 mph, are prohibited for anyone under 16. The ordinance lies with all state helmet requirements. Next slide, please. Under AB2234, for the first 60 days after the ordinance takes effect, violations will result in a warning only. After the 60-day period, violations become infractions punishable by a $25 fine, which is set by state law and cannot be

modified by the city. The fine can may be waved if the violator completes a city approved ebike safety training program within 120 days. Next slide, please. The ordinance also includes provisions for removal and seizure of vehicles consistent with California vehicle code. Peace officers may remove class 3 ebikes being operated in violation of state law and motorcycle motorized vehicles with fewer than four wheels that are not classified as ebikes can exceed 20 mph and are being operated by an unlicensed rider. The city may recover its administrative cost for removal, seizure, and storage. Vehicles may be released after a minimum of 48 hours once all fees are paid and when required after the violator completes a city approved safety course. AB2234 requires participating cities to collect and report certain data. The ordinance includes these mandated reporting requirements, including tracking ebike violations, warnings, and citations, documenting any vehicle removals and releases, recording completion of city approved safety courses and fine waiverss, and tracking ebike related collisions and incidents. The city is required to submit this information to state legislature. The reporting requirements support statewide evaluation of the pilot program and may inform future statewide legislation. Next slide, please. Before the ordinance may take effect, the city must conduct a 30-day public information campaign. Staff are coordinating with nonprofits, local schools, and the bicycle coalition to develop educational materials and a safety course. This concludes staff's presentation, and I'm available to answer any questions.

So, by council, initial questions or comments for Ms. Lee? Nobody has. Oh, okay. Uh well then we'll go to um our speaker Joseph Crier.

Welcome green now it's on. Thank you.

All right. Good evening. Um I'm really excited by bikes and riding bikes and excuse me excited specifically about ebikes because it's this kind of newer more accessible form of mobility especially where we're the jewel of the hills. It's hard to pedal up some of these hills. I was lucky enough to be able to buy a used cargo bike. So now I can take my kids to school on that and it really helps right now saving on gas with the way the prices are. Uh and the day I got it, my oldest son asked me, "When can I get my ebike?" I'm like, "Well, when you're old enough." And I had just determined that and I talked with your mom and your pediatrician. We say that's okay. Uh so I was really disheartened when I saw this come up uh for the council and had a lot of questions and so I'm just going to uh share my questions and I hope you all can discuss those as you see fit. So who was consulted about this? Did we talk with bike riders? Did we talk with the San Diego bike coalition? We have the mobility commission. Did we talk with them? How about the environmental sustainability commission? What about the parks and recreation commission? We have a youth advisory commission. Did they talk about this at their commission? How much will this cost the city? This involves training for uh the outreach uh uh excuse me, training for our police officers to figure out what these different classes of bicycles look like, what a 12-year-old looks like. Um it requires ongoing for enforcement, maybe even litigation in the future. What is this really going to cost the city? Also, what are the alternatives? Could we do there's some model being done in I think it's Costa Mesa where they're saying a permission slip from the parents where the school district has made some new rules there on ebikes. Can we do more education? Can we do more helmets? Can we do more of those ebike giveaways that we did last year? Uh what about speed limits? What about regulating where they go rather than just a straight ban on these bikes? Uh are we addressing the root problems of these? What data were used for these decisions? I looked it up today and there in La Mesa the last three years the annual average we had 446 total injuries and fatalities on our roads.

200 were related to speed, 73 alcohol, 27 to distracted driving, 25 related to motorcycles, 13 related to seat belts, 11 involving drug use, 10 were bicycles related, three were related to youth bicycles. And according to the data put it in the staff report, less than two because that data isn't available from the state, but presented by the staff was two less than few two in the last three years were from ebikes. That's less than half a percent of all the fatalities and the injuries. Is this really the problem that we want to be addressing? Is a ban really the way that we want to do it? What's it what does the data tell us? What are the root problems here? 30 seconds.

Thank you. Uh what are we doing about the other traffic injuries and deaths? Please, let's let's hear about those the other uh 440 or so that are not related to bicycles. Uh should this also cover private property? The the it's written as the uh citywide. How will this how will we control for officer bias? Um, can we make our own rules rather than copy paste from what Sacramento provided? I think the justification is thin. I think we should reconsider. Get to the root problem. Support zero mission affordable mobility. Support kids and families. Let parents make their choice. Thank you, council.

I have questions. Um, thank you, sir, for coming. Um, and thank you to Councilwoman Suzuki for bringing this forward. Um, I did not understand the ordinance to be a a ban in in any way. Could you um um Miss Lee or um Mr. Humora uh explain what he might be referring to in in our ordinance? What could be called a ban? Um well, it prohibits anyone under the age of 12 from riding a class one or class 2 bicycle.

Okay. Thank you. Um, so the I know you went over the class one and class two, but now I have more questions. Um, so could you go back to that slide? Okay, last one is just pedal assist. Pedal assist may go with a throttle. Got it. Okay, so it's banning them for so age 16. Okay. Um, those are my initial questions. I'll let the rest of the council go, but that's uh what I wanted an answer to first. Thank you. Thank you. Does the council have any other questions or comments or Yes. Is every bike on that page an electric bike?

I mean, this doesn't stop a 10-year-old from riding a beach cruiser or anything like that. Just electric bikes.

No, this is class one is just assist. Class 2 is assist and throttle. Class three is the speed, 28 miles an hour. And that's why that's 16 years old. I I've had a lot of La Mesa residents come up to me going, "It looks like 10 year olds on motorcycles." And they're freaking out and they're asking, "Is the city going to do anything about it?" Um, I don't like bands. I like freedom and all this other stuff, but 12 years old on an electric bike seems to be reasonable. I wouldn't want to see a 9 or 10 year old on these electric bikes, especially I'm sorry, Lame Mesa's traffic's out of control. We've spring street and and university in Elcohone and you no matter where you're riding it's just it's congested and it's it's people are going through stop signs. It's really dangerous. I was told last year that a a kid was hit on university on an ebike from an Edco truck and um he's like he's in bad shape. So anyway, um I don't think we I like fleshing things out and and looking at all the nuances of it, but 12 years old does seem reasonable to me. And I've had many complaints as well as a teacher and um in front of uh the school that I help create. Um Junior High Drive is just a straight area and so and I most of the children that I see are over 12, but I I'm not going to speak for the police. Um, but I'm sure um, Captain Lynch can bear me out that because there's so many bike riders, I'm sure that we're not going to be pulling over everyone and trying to profile them and see if they're 12. I'm sure when you see someone behaving in a way that's not safe, that's when someone's going to be um asked to to produce or that they're going to be checked on to see if they're of proper age. So, I know when you say the word banned, it sounds like we're going to throw a blanket over this, but I think that our peace officers are going to be out looking for people that are behaving safe. I'm not saying that if you're

under 12 you should break the law and and ride. But um can I get a nod or with a thumbs up? Would you agree to that? Thank you, Captain Lynch. And so it's so that's what I'm trying to reassure people for this. It's for a safety thing. And I'm I agree that many people have come to me and seen behavior that is not consistent with safety. And I have seen students or I won't name names but have taken actually the aperture off the pedals to make it look like a motorcycle and be a motorcycle. So they you know they hit the center pin out they take off and not everybody but but that's happened too. And so um that's why this ordinance also includes for people that have changed or have added or have created something that's an electric vehicle and so that can be seized as well. So, I think this is this is mostly for the people that are behaving poorly or that they're they're making choices that could put them in danger. Council member Suzuki, um I do have one question, Ms. Lee. Um one of the um so I just attended our ebike, our city's ebike, um education, and I was one of three people there and and I would love for us to see more people there. Um Mr. Prior asked about education. we put them on and um it was at our our police department and it's fantastic and they did a fantastic job and I would love to have more of that. Is there also any kind of I saw that if a if someone is is found with a violation, then we're going to require them to maybe attend um a safety a safety class. But is there anything about maybe getting a safety some kind of safety certificate if you want to go with the class three? Class 3 is 28 miles per hour. Just to give people an idea, I live in a townhouse community. We cannot go over 10 to 15 miles per

hour around our townhouse community. 20 miles per hour as a 12-year-old. I have a 10-year-old. He's almost 11. He has no business going anywhere near anything faster than five. And so I while I understand we want to give our kids the the opportunity to have a good time, this is a safety issue. So I was just wondering, is there anything where we could we require these safety classes? Because I actually think that every child should have been there. I mean that wants an ebike or any parent that wants an ebike to and I don't know if the state if that would be then usurping the state's oversight but but yes I see our attorney already nodding.

So we yeah yes um it would the the state law doesn't require we can't require the training class to prohibit um you know that would be in violation of the vehicle code. However, we have been working with the bicycle coalition to expand and kind of make those programs and those trainings a little bit more robust specifically for this ebike ordinance. So, those will be rolling out. Like I mentioned, we'll be working with the schools as well. Other cities have really kind of like really worked well with their schools and seeing how we can include that into some curriculum. So, we are looking at how to expand those training programs. And then also, just to let you know, the class 3, this isn't a new law. That is California state law that no one under the age of 16 can write a class 3. That's just California state law as it stands at this time.

I'm just going to add one more thing. This is a pilot program, but this is going to go into effect in 2029. This will be California vehicle code and law for all 485 cities in the state of California and all the counties. So, we're getting ahead of it for a few years to try to get people um used to it. And last year, we had 52 calls of service for bike incidences. So, that means there's probably a lot more. That means 52 people took the time to call the non-emergency line and responding. We responded to those, you know, and so as much as we could. And so, that tells you, I agree, that there is an awareness by the public. So, I'm going to hand this to you. Oh, I'm Did you Sorry. Sorry. Council member Dillard, I apologize. Yes.

No, it's it's okay. I just wanted to um kind of piggy back off of uh what Council Member Suzuki was asking uh on on the incentive um possible program. Uh could we also include um retailers that sell these ebikes uh to incentivize them to pass on when they sell a bike uh to encourage um whoever's purchasing it and whoever they're going to give it to or themselves to take um training.

Yeah, we actually with our ebike giveaway that was what we did. We is we teamed up with the retailers and then it was required that they completed a training and had a certificate to get the ebike. We still have all those relationships with all the retailers so we can continue um to include them in the educational program. May is bicycle month so that's the reason why we did also request to have the ordinance go now so we'll really be kicking off our campaign and really um doing what we can. We're a stop for the Sandad um bicycle day as well. So, we'll be pushing out our educational training at that time well as well. Oh, well, thank you for that feedback. That's good idea. Thank you.

So, I'm gonna hand this over because council member Suzuki started talking about this. So, read it. Yes. Sorry. An ordinance of the city council of the city of Laame Mesa adding chapter 12.38 to the La Mesa municipal code to establish the Lame Mesa electric bicycle safety pilot program pursuant to the California Vehicle Code sections 21214.7312.5 and 2265108. Um I I'd like to make a motion to approve the first reading and ordinance.

I'll second I never me again. Nope, you're good. Sorry, my internet I think was going a little slow, but motion passes with all council members voting. Yes.

Thank you. Item 111 is something I'm bringing forward. It's a consideration of allocating $20,000 to update the 2022 park development impact fee study to evaluate potential increases to the Quimby Parkland dedication in loo fee and park acquisition improvement fee. And just to give you an idea what that is that this is we've had a lot of development in the city of La Mesa and some of it's been welcome some of people have been unhappy but the park and loo fee is for developers to give us money to improve the parks when they develop in the city. We haven't updated it in quite some time. And so I would like to ask for $20,000 so we can update the plan so we can I think fairly um ask for the funds. If you're going to build in La Mesa, you should be helping improve La Mesa. So um do you want to add anything?

Okay. So that's my motion. I'm sorry. Yes. The um the fees would be to go toward beautifying our parks. Absolutely. Do we do anything with builders about setting aside money for parking? Well, that's a separate issue. So, I'm just talking about parks, right? No. No. But so, this has nothing to do with parking. Only parks. Just parks. That's why it's called the It's I know it says park in L, but it's not it's park like the 14 parks in La Mesa. Sorry. Yes. Thank you. So, my motion is Oh, sorry. I make a motion and there you go. Okay. Questions?

Uh, I was just going to say I think that um even as recently as last night when um Council Member Dillard and I were on a completely separate Zoom meeting, um you know, concerns were brought up of of some of the de development in Laame Mesa. And I think this will be welcomed because we are limited by um by state law. I mean, I think it's great a vast majority of the of the homes that we are building and I hope we continue to do so, but um we can't be getting the short end of the stick. So, I think this is a great idea

and I know it's going to be tough because the developers, you know, it's going to be hard for them to scrape up some money, but I'm just getting around. Uh you council member Dillard, do you second it? Okay. Thank you. You're

motion carries with all council members voting yes. Item number 112 is cannabis dispensary signage cont uh content and I'll hand it over to Vice Mayor Casarus.

Thank you very much. So, um, as most of you are aware, um, uh, when cannabis was legalized in the state of California, um, Councilman Bill Ber brought forward, um, different ordinances, uh, and then there was a to, uh, make them legal here in the city of La Mesa. And then um measure U was voted on by uh voters and that um included a lot of restrictions and regulations on um cannabis dispensaries. Uh cannabis dispensaries we are um I often hear concerns of are there going to be more um no. My understanding is that we are built out um or for the most part built out. Um, but something that I have heard a lot from parents and from dispensary operators are that there is a lot of there's a lot of mistakes made for folks who think that they are other types of businesses, not dispensaries. For example, cookies. Um, that's a great example over by El Poo Loco. Um, it looks like it's called cookies. It looks like it's a fancy cookie shop. Um and then um you have it and it draws you know potentially minors who are interested um uh or just asking their parents or whatnot. Um and then Walgreens is another example. Folks either get it confused with Walgreens or folks come in because they want um an acai bowl or a salad or or things like that. And so, um, to avoid confusion, but especially to avoid, um, confusion for minors, um, I am directing I'm asking that we direct staff to bring forward an ordinance, um, for consideration and possible adoption clarifying the intent and authority for cannabis dispensaries to identify themselves as dispensaries in their

signage content. Um, I think it'll be really helpful, um, all throughout the city, um, for them to be clear. A lot of them have names that are a a mystery to me where they came from. Um, and I think it'll be really useful and keep our community safer and frankly will also be good for business, which is good for tax revenue. So, I think it's a I think it's an all-around win. I'm gonna second that. Thank you. because I've at school I had so many people come and talk to me about the place you mentioned and all the different places you know fresh baked donuts or whatever they're called. Yeah. So I'm all on board. Uh thank you council member I don't know I wasn't looking. Dillard and then Suzuki.

Okay. Sorry. Um uh just a quick question. Uh, do we have any feedback from our um, cannabis stores about what that would do uh, to make that change um, on their display or up on the front of their building or wherever they have to put this change?

Yeah. So, it would be completely optional for them to do so. I've heard from cannabis uh dispensary operators that this is what they want because currently in other cities um they can put the full name of their store and in this city um they can't even put their full name of their store like Walgreens for example they can only say Walgreens well greens their full legal entity title is Walgreens dispensary um so uh and there are others that that's the case um we've seen some of them get creative um I uh I I can't think of which one it is, but one they have like voted San Diego's best dispensary like put up in their window, but they can't put that on their sign that they're a dispensary. So, um it it would not cost them any money if they didn't want to do that. It's not a requirement. Um but it's a it's allowing them to do so. And I would imagine that most business-minded folks um that own these dispensaries would be interested in in doing so. So, we don't know how much that would cost if they had to make that change or they won't

they they won't be required. No. No. I mean, it's ultimately up to them. Some of them have small signs, some of them have huge signs. Yeah. Council member Suzuki,

I I just wanted to thank you for this, uh, Vice Mayor, because my child was really excited about cookies and I had to break it to them. Okay. I was I was excited about cookies and and and then I also got excited about I think it's I kei I don't know it's a dispensary and I thought it was a high-end Japanese restaurant. And so then I got I I called my husband even and and I said we have a place to go and then we we didn't. So I mean we're not we don't anyway. So, I um I thank you for this cuz I think it'll help and I think it's good for the businesses as well to be able to clear up um any mistaken, you know, people come in and then they Oh my gosh. So, thank you.

Okay, there's a motion and a second.

Motion carries with all council members voting yes. Item 113, consideration of adding Bill Walton Way sign to the signpost at the intersection of Vul Street and Normal Avenue. Council member Dillard.

Thank you. Uh I'm excited uh to bring this motion. Um I I realize that there's probably a lot of people, especially young people, that don't know who Bill Walton is. Uh so I'm outside of what you could read on your own. Uh I just have a small statement about uh Bill Walton. Um uh he was inducted into the Na Nay Smith uh Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame in 1993, a dominant center. He won two NBA championships in 1977 and 1986. He earned the 19 uh 1978 NBA MVP award and was a two-time NCAA champion with UCLA. Uh he was also born and raised in La Mesa. He uh graduated from Helix High School. Uh beyond his achievements on the court, uh Walton was a passionate advocate for environmental sustainability, supported initiatives addressing homelessness, and was an avid bicyclist, speaking of biking. Um he was well known for his generosity and commitment to charitable causes. And we believe the best way to honor this Lame Mesa hero is by designating an honorary street sign with the name on LL Street, which is just back behind Helix High School for those of you that maybe that's a a quicker way to know where LOL Street if you haven't already been on it. Um, a formal ceremony will be held at a later date with details to be announced soon

and I feel honored and privileged uh that we're we have one of our own to honor and um I know that he's since passed away but um this is uh for the city of Laame Mesa and um we uh couldn't be more honored to do that uh for him and his So, thank you. All right. Thank you. Um, comments?

Yes, I have a a question for Councilwoman Dillard. Um, after I give a little bit of history of of this project. U, so yeah, obviously a honorary street sign for for Bill Walton is a fantastic thing. He is he is a legend. Uh, it would be a wonderful thing to to have this tribute to his memory and his legacy. Uh, it would also be a proud moment for the city of La Mesa. So absolutely this is a wonderful idea but I want to give a little history on it. Um there's a gentleman named Shane Harris and he is a La Mesa businessman and he emailed um the city last October and uh I received an email Councilman Diller did councilwoman at the time Kazarus I think the mayor and some other people and he said hey I've got this idea for uh a memorial for for Bill Walton and um what do you think? And so I was the first one to respond. I said this is a great idea. I worked with Bill Walton for the last two years of his life on homeless initiatives. Never even knew he was ill. He's like again just a wonderful man. Uh and so um I remember sharing it with Councilwoman Dillard because she's my co-chair on the arts and culture committee and she's like, "Yeah, this sounds fantastic." So very positive. So with that positive reinforcement from the city of La Mesa, um Shane Harris held a press conference with Lorie Walton, who's Bill Walton's widow, and he did that in November. And what they did is they announced a dual uh proposition where the city of San Diego would have a a memorial to Bill Walton and so would Laame Mesa. Shane was the idea man behind it. He got permission um and authorization and blessings from Lorie Walton again who is Bill Walton's uh widow. Um another thing about Shane Harris is that he is a um he's the CEO of a communications company in La Mesa. He is a marketing guy. He's a press release guy. He's a a special events kind of person. So he has in mind uh having an event where Lori Walton flies in from Hawaii, basketball greats like Kareem Abdul Jabbar show up and it's just like he's going to make a big shindig out of it. Uh and it all sounds

great. And so when I saw this item on the agenda, I just assumed uh that it was going to be uh the city of La Mesa working with Shane Harris uh because again he brought it to our attention. He's the one that's got the blessings from the family. Uh, and so the question I have for Councilman Dillard, is this something that the city is trying to pursue on its own without him at all, or is this something where they plan to work with him?

I'm going to make a motion uh to uh have this item approved. And I am not going to go into detail about that except for I will remind you that I called you and it was to try to determine what we were going to do and I was given the task to do that. Um we have a lot of uh city members uh residents from everywhere across uh our city that come in and make suggestions. We had suggestions made uh just this evening. Uh and some of them we take up and some of we don't. Uh Shane Harris is free to do whatever he wants to do. Um but once uh the city takes up an initiative, it goes into the hands of the city. And uh never since I've been on the dis have I ever seen a uh a member and we have some that are here that bring suggestions and we listen to them. Uh some we take up and some we don't but they don't ask to be recognized. Um they're just happy if we do it or um you know understand if we if we can't or we don't. Uh so with that said I I would like I would like a second comment on that before we go into seconds. This was more than

I wanted to second it under discussion and you can comment all you want. Okay. So under discussion then okay I'll wait and then I'm going to ask for the speakers after this comment. When can I you can keep talking under com discussion. We can discuss the rest of the night.

Yeah. This this was beyond a suggestion. And it was actually a propo uh an official proposal with a press conference with the family's blessing. We I have a text today from Lorie Walton saying I want the city to work with Shane Harris. So I feel I feel like we are we're taking something away. I feel like theft. I feel like this is unethical and I want to memorialize them. I want the street corner. Um I I was expecting woo easy peasy 50. But when I started getting wind of, oh no, we're going to do this and we're going to actually exclude the person who brought it to us, I don't feel good about that. I I I don't I can't support that. Okay, we have one speaker, Mara Phelps. May I speak?

Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I apologize. Sorry. Sorry. I'm sorry. It's I'm sorry. I I jumped in late. I apologize. I'm sorry.

I I just have two two comments. The first comment is that I met Mr. Walton at one of the Lame Mesa Park and Recreation Foundation gaylas and he was so wonderful and I grew up in Hawaii so I didn't really know about Bill Walton and admittedly I'm not a huge basketball fan so now I've learned a lot about him and um I found him to be wonderful and and and the second comment I want to say is because of the way that Mr. Walton was and in the spirit of our city, I would think that there were no limits to celebrate Mr. Walton. We could have this beautiful way um di uh not diagnosed but you know um made or created and and and honoring him and we can later on have a joint memorial or whatever it is or celebration. It's my opinion that there is never a limit to celebrating and memorializing good people and we should never forget the good people in our lives because just because one person has has um I I I call dibs. We don't have dibs on each other. That's my opinion. I I think that we all share in each other's spirit and goodness and we should be so lucky to live a life like Mr. Walton and I'd like to thank council council member Dillard for bringing this forward um because I think that it is a wonderful way to celebrate a son of La Mesa.

I'm going to go to speakers Marla Phelps. I promise you can come up this time. Thank you. Can we turn our mic on?

Not many of you know who I am. I'm Marla Phelps. I'm a political activist since I was 15 in San Diego. I live in La Mesa. I'm one of yours. I don't come here except for uh about uh them getting rid of the market that we get. Okay. And another time I tried to get Mark to be running for mayor in San Diego. Okay. Bill wasn't happy that I put Todd in, but uh I'm going to talk to Todd about uh memorizing him down at Belo Park, too. I am Christmas on the proud. I stand before you. I've been volunteering in that park since I was a child. I was forced to do it. Now I do it with love in my heart. I stay out there all night long, two nights in a row to protect the equipment so I'd have a show again. That's me behind all that. I am the volunteer of volunteers. I never want to thank you from nobody for nothing I do. As I stand before you, it took me all night to think of what I would say about Bill. Okay, I'm going to tell you about one thing he did. I went to PATH. I I work for the homeless, no money. I start NOS's, I get no money. I get funding, I get no money. I chase federal funding. I work a lot with feds, states, cities, counties. But y'all don't know me. Only Mark does. When I think of Bill, I just want to cry. He brought me to tears at Path. We didn't have a kitchen there bringing in all those homeless people and the

apartments that they redid and all that with so many different people and organizations and even my bank helped out the one that burnt down. Yeah, that one. Anyways, Bill Walton and his lucky ducks put in a kitchen there. I had the pleasure of eating there the first time they cooked. It was pretty good actually. Them homeless people are lucky down there, right? They eat well. They have good programs. When I needed to open the rescue mission, the man was there for me. Okay? He came to three of my fundraisers and kept buying stuff that he helped me get. He knew every ball player in every sport. He was my friend because of my muscle training. I'm an athlete, skater, martial arts. He learned a lot from me and I learned a lot from him and we were besties.

Kelly quit coming to the park. But you know what? I'm impressed you're doing this. Thank you.

All right. That was just going to ask you to wrap it up. Thank you for being here. Um, so I'm going to comment and give a little history not about Bill Walton, but about the city of La Mesa. So over 20 years ago, we recognized Bill Walton on the Walk of Fame. If you've ever walked on the sidewalk of Lame Mesa, we have a plaque for Bill Walton. Says everything what we could about him in a small area, but he's recognized and memorialized on on the city street. When I was on the committee to after we were beginning to talk about starting La Mace Arts Academy, the Boys and Girls Club came and I worked with the Boys and Girls Club to have a joint um proposition to build the Boys and Girls Club on the campus of La Mesa Arts Academy. We worked with the Boys and Girls Club. We worked with the school district and the city. Three organizations came together and we were able to do that. We included Bill Walton in that as a member of an honorary member of our committee. And what we did is we named the gymnasium after him. We had a big ceremony. It's Bill Walton Gymnasium. It's right across from Helix. His best friend Dave Grumston, who's uh God rest his soul, was there. They lived uh he lived on Orian. They they shared stories about how when they would be running for basketball, running laps around the neighborhood, they jump over the the the fence and swim in Dave's pool. So, I'm not saying that I'm not for this. I am for this. But when the only the only feedback I got was uh face to face. Someone said, "How come we haven't done this yet?" And I said, "We have done this and this will be the third time we're doing it." And that's fine. I I respect Bill Walton and I'm glad that he went to Helix and UCLA and the Trailblazers and played for the San Diego Clippers. There used to be a NBA team here. So, I'm I'm going to support this. But I just for the education portion of it, this is not the first time. So any other comments?

Comment. Okay. I'm going to I'm going to support it as well because I want this memorial for him. My fear is that there could be there could be negativity associated with it depending on if um if the widow says I don't want any part of it now. I this thing it could it could turn ugly and I'm disappointed in that. Okay. So, but I will support it because I do want a memorial.

And I'll correct myself on uh the fact that I didn't bring up that. Also, Mrs. Walton text me as well and said she just didn't want to be a part of any political action uh and said nothing to me about uh me not going forward. This was um the only reason why I called you was because of the art part. Uh but I ended up changing my mind and decided to do the street instead. And no one else has done any work on this except for me. And so uh I will say that uh I would like to call the vote. Motion carries with all council members voting yes.

Number 12, council committee reports. Council member Dillard.

Um yes, I just have one report. Um I haven't reported on uh MTS for a while. So, I just want to say that uh on uh between March the 29th and April the 4th um our wrership with uh the trolley uh was down a little bit. It was 854,554. the blue line uh at 521-356 and the orange line which runs straight through Lame Mesa 121985 um uh rides and green line 19792 which runs uh through uh La Mesa as well and down through the valley and the copper line at 13,281. The one thing that I want to mention uh for uh people who do uh ride uh public transit is that on Thursday, this Thursday, um we the the board will be presented with a uh rate increase on writership. And so um um I want you all to know about that. And um and if you have any comments that you'd like to make, you can uh either go on Zoom uh to uh for those comments, uh they're three minutes and or you're uh more than welcome to come to the meeting. It's at 9:00 a.m. This is the board of directors meeting. Um and uh um uh as far as uh public uh security is concerned, I also sit on the board for public security and we are going to be moving forward with um uh moving to the uh board of directors as well uh to approve um a

stricter um guideline. And I'll just generalize and say um that now um there's going to be a steeper penalty for uh people who try to cheat uh and not pay for writership. Thank you. That's all I have. Council member Lotheian, Council Member Suzuki,

just briefly, uh, the Harry Griffin Joint Power is a we we met. And, um, if anyone is interested in getting involved with K9 Corners or, um, the group that is going to be handling the dog park at Harry Griffin, please let me know or reach out to um to me because I think we're looking for people to get involved. Thank you. Council, uh, Vice Mayor Casaris,

also dog park related. Um, I want to say thank you to the folks who have been involved, the friends of MacArthur Dog Park who have been um, involved. I want to remind everyone that um, as we are trying to figure out how to um, expand the dog park in a way that is uh, acceptable to everyone. Um, sometimes we're going to hit little forks in the road and we're going to continue working together um to get that figured out, but it takes time. There is a master plan for MacArthur Park and um myself and Councilwoman Dillard serve on the um future of MacArthur Park subcommittee. So, please please be patient um because we we want to see it expanded as well, but we also need to make sure that um the that we're we're following the master plan and if if we can't follow the master plan that we potentially restart a very lengthy process. So, while we're trying to be creative, um patience is appreciated. And I also want to say thank you to Councilwoman Dillard um for filling in for me at Sandag on Friday because I was unable to be there.

AB1234. No city attorney remarks. So, I'm going to personally thank our public works director. Oh, he's I know he's watching in the next room over. Um, we were able to get the two stop signs at Lemon and Third and thank you for making that a four-way stop because that does increase safety and onto Finley. So, things do happen and that was brought to me by someone and so I'm glad we were able to complete that. And um with that we are adjourned.