City Council - Regular Meeting

It's not connecting. It's not connect. Oh, it's connecting. I just needed to tell you that, Scotty. Okay, good. Ready? Good evening, citizens and staff. I'm Mayor Carol Westfall, hereby call to order this council meeting on Monday, April 6th, 2026. The time is 7 p.m. Roll call, please. Councelor Angelie here. Councelor Ruto here. Councelor Mloud here. Councelor Steinberg's absent. I need a motion to excuse. So move. All in favor say I. Any oppose?

Please stand and join me in the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Okay. And I have two um presentations. So, if I could get Lynn Ballard up first. Lyn's not here. Okay. So, you can just read that and then do

you want me to read it from here?

You can. Yeah. Okay. So Lynn is not here, but we will read the proclamation and make sure we get this to her. In the matter proclaiming April 13th through the 20th, 2026 as International Dark Sky Week in the city of Clamoth Falls. This is a mayoral proclamation. Whereas the experience of standing under a starry night sky inspires feelings of wonder and awe, encouraging a growing interest in science and nature, particularly among young people and visitors from outside the local communities. Whereas light pollution has scientifically established economic and environmental consequences which results in a significant impact on the ecology and the human health of all communities. Whereas 80% of the world's population, including many people in Clamoth Falls, live under a dome of light pollution. Excessive artificial lighting at night that disrupts natural darkness and may never experience the visual wonder or ecological and health benefits of living under a dark sky. Whereas light pollution represents a waste of natural resources amounting to roughly three billion per year. a wasted energy in the United States and contributes to diminished energy security. Whereas Oregon hosts eight official or notable dark sky international designated locations. These include the world's largest sanctuary in the Oregon outback right next to Clamoth County. Astronomers boost rural econ um economies with projections suggesting significant spending increases in southern Oregon and promote sustainable year-round tourism rather than seasonal. Astroourists typically spend more money

than traditional tourists. Whereas dark skies support our Pacific flyway, a major flyway for migratory birds by decreasing disorientation, exhaustion, premature nesting, and allowing for safe migration. Birding tourism is another year-round activity and supports our winter wings festival. Whereas Dark Sky International, the globally recognized authority on light pollution, recognizes International Dark Sky Week to raise awareness of the effects of light pollution, provides free education, resources, and solutions to the public, and encourages the protection of and enjoyment of dark skies and the responsible outdoor lighting. And now therefore, be it proclaimed, I, Cara Westfall, as mayor of the city of Clamoth Falls, do hereby declare April 13 through the 20th, 2026 as International Dark Sky Week in Clamoth County, and ask each resident to join me not only in observing and pondering upon this important week, but also in raising awareness and support for protecting our precious dark sky and its resource. Carol Westville, Mayor. And we have another proclamation. Samantha Fenu.

Thank you for coming. Thank you for having me. Very important. Yeah. No. Here. All right. Unlock myself.

This proclamation is from the city of Climate Falls. Whereas children deserve a stable environment of love and support. Whereas finding solutions depends on involvement from all parents, citizens, and organizations, thus planting a seed for future generations to prosper. Whereas child abuse and neglect can be reduced by making sure each family has the support they need to raise their children in healthy and nurturing surroundings. Whereas providing for children's physical, emotional, and developmental needs creates the best foundation for promise uh for a promising childhood. Whereas we are dedicated to strengthening families in our community, we join together to convey our message of care and hope. And now therefore, I Cara Westfall, mayor of the city of Clamoth Falls, Oregon, do hereby proclaim the month of April 2026 as child abuse prevention month. And thank you so much for all of your efforts. I think were gonna say a few words.

We were we were going to together. Yes.

Um, good evening council members. My name is Samantha Benner and I am the manager of Clamoth Lake Cares, your local child abuse child advocacy center. I'm especially grateful to stand here today with Chief Rob Dinger of the Clamoth Falls Police Department. Together, our organizations help coordinate child abuse investigations and support prosecutions to help children heal and hold offenders accountable. Thank you for proclaiming April as child abuse prevention month in Clamoth Falls. On behalf of CARES, the child the Clamouth County Child Abuse Prevention Coalition and the Clamoth County Child Abuse Multidisiplinary Team, we are grateful for your leadership and continued partnership in Clamoth County. Far too many children are impacted by abuse and neglect. Our local rate stands at approximately 17.8 substantiated victims per 10,000 children, consistently higher than both the Oregon and national averages. April provides a vital opportunity to raise awareness, strengthen prevention efforts, and remind our community that protecting children is everyone's responsibility. Prevention works when we build protective factors like parental resilience, concrete supports for families, and strong social connections. We also encourage all residents, especially mandatory reporters, to know the signs and report reasonable suspicion of child abuse immediately by calling the Oregon child abuse hotline. As we enter this month of abu of awareness and prevention, we invite every resident, business, school, and organization to join us perhaps by displaying blue pinw wheels for prevention, wearing blue, or sharing family resources. Clamoth Lake Care stands ready to support you with retrainings, resources, and trauma informed services. Thank you again for this important declaration and for your ongoing commitment to children and and families of Cla Falls. Together we can build a safer future for our kids. Thank you.

Okay. All right. Thank you very much. Have a great night. Thank you VERY um Um,

thank you for allowing me to spend a little time talking about our white pelican project. Um, hopefully you got the written report that I uh sent in last week. Um, I'm excited to report two things since I I think I met with you guys in December of last year. Uh, two things. One was we've gotten our project cost in line so we have a good viable project. Uh secondly, we were able to through the excellent efforts of Sage Credit Union get a financing proposal that uh is also very viable and and works for our group. And so now we're down to the next obstacle which is really getting the rest of the private investors lined up now that we are able to say we've we've got a a group that's willing to do the bank financing. So, uh, we're pushing hard to get to the finish line of this project. It's something that we're working hard on. It's near and dear to our hearts, and we think it'll be a great project. Uh, and so we're pushing as hard as we can. So, with that, I'd open up to any questions.

Questions? Go ahead. Um, it was a good update. Thank you very much. And I think this is a very strong project and I'd like to see those steps moving forward. Um do you have any concerns about um things that may get in the way outside of the invest investment um aspect that you're working on right now that would deter the project um before the next uh meeting where uh no I mean the the key thing is getting the rest of the investors. That's always been the key thing. It's a big project, a $30 million project and uh a lot of money and

uh getting people to sign on the dotted line is something we're working on every day and we're getting closer and closer, but we still have a ways to go to get it to the finish line. Once we get that, I'm confident the other items we have to get done are, you know, finishing the permitting process and having Mark WZ diversified contractors finish all the firm bids. but he's done it three times, I think, you know, done bids already. So, we feel pretty confident about those items. So, it's getting money. So,

I just want to have add to that. Um, when Mr. Went was here last time giving us an update, one of the questions I asked because I was excited about the project and I said, "Is it realistic to get some kind of signage up in that lot to show progress?" And he just was still on the fence about that. How do you feel about that now? Uh, I can see why it would be viewed as a positive on one hand. On the other hand, you know, the people that we would be putting on the signage, you know, want to make sure that it's going to get done.

And so it, you know, we don't want to create any, you know, egg on the face if for some reason it doesn't get done. And those that have been great supporters, you know, companies like a Sage Credit Union and, uh, Jeldwin, Poly Plumbing, a lot of the the key providers in town. So, we think it's just a little premature. Okay. Uh, but we think it's a good idea, too. So, it's it's one we've been kind of debating back and forth. Do we push that quicker than later? Yeah. Like, maybe we don't put the names on it, but there's something to show for. So, maybe at the next meeting or the next update. That's I will run that through our our ownership team and bring that up. So, I think it's a great question.

Okay. Thank you. It would really be something positive for the community to say future home of this or that. But I don't believe you have to put in this who's who's um coming along, but just a kind of a picture of what it's going to look like because we get asked all the time like what is what's happening there? It's just this empty lot and it's been there for a long time. And I appreciate the weeds being cleaned up. I think that's very important. Keeping it keeping it all um clean. I know you've been working to keep the fence up. It sometimes gets knocked down. So, yeah, I know Mark's had to put it back up probably a handful of times the last six months.

Yeah. And the sidewalks are hard for the kids. I mean, we have kids up there and they're having to just walk on one side of the street. So, it is a it is a problem. Go ahead. Um, counselor. Yeah, I just want to say that it is such a key and pivotal piece to the whole revitalization of downtown, let alone that entrance to downtown. So just I'm excited to see it moving forward and know that you have my support in that. I just want to make sure that we keep motivated on the thing and and keep the community we're very motivated. So, uh, we've, you know, we've been believers that it's, you know, the strong gateway to that side of Climate Falls

and will provide nice economic stimulus for the downtown and probably will revitalize, you know, some of the areas nearby that uh haven't been quite revitalized yet. So, I think it's very positive in that aspect. We're not stalling, I can tell you that. So, we're working this thing hard and but it is a challenging project. So, it's one that yeah, we've been slowly overcoming obstacles. So, we're working this hard. Thank you. Go ahead, Councelor BL. Yeah, thank you. That was a great update and congratulations on the bank financing. That's a huge step forward. Um, happy to hear that it's near and dear to your heart because it is to all of ours, too. It's a cool location.

Are you anticipating any project scope changes with the challenges and finances as you get closer? Uh, I don't expect any, but if for some reason some big last investor that gets us over the hump wants something done, you know, we're going to at least be open-minded to it. But I'm hoping that's not the case because we've got 90% of the engineering and architect stuff done. We just have to do the last few value engineering things that we worked on last fall

into place and get the get the permitting done and be off and running. So finance or the investors is really the key thing. And so getting the money, we'll get this. If we get that money, we'll get the project done. And I do want to give kudos to Jonathan and Joe and Michael and Ian. I know he's no longer with you guys, but the city team's been fantastic to work with and easy to work with. Good. Very good. You mentioned in your letter about the um extensions. So, what specific milestone needs to be met before the before the formal request for the next extension?

Uh, what Michael and I have talked about, and I haven't talked probably for 60 days on it, but is, you know, if we once we have the money lined up, then, you know, they're going to want to have as a contingency that there's no clawback. So, once we get the money lined up, I'll be talking to Michael and asking for an extension. Very good. And as far as the permitting, the coordination with the city, what should the city be preparing for?

Uh once we give the go-ahad, I'm going to likely need some push from maybe Jonathan or someone on his team to help uh push the county. So, uh last time there was a few little hiccups. Overall, they were good to work with, but a few hiccups that could have gone smoother than what we were working on. So, and I know they had a change in staffing, so um I think it should be easier this time, but we may require you guys to step in and help a little bit. We'll probably be leaning on Randy Cox and the Cassita team a little bit to help at that point as well. That would be great. But I I'm not anticipating big issues.

Okay. And um any I know you've gone over, but the contingencies remaining on the finance packaging. It's signing people up. Yep. Okay. Okay. And that's what we're working on and and getting a few new investors that are willing to kick in. So, very good. All right. Any other questions or comments? Well, we're really excited. We want to see that project through and I know you do, too. And so, thank you for coming. I'll probably see you in a couple months. So, thank you guys. Thank you now. Bye. Bye. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. And we have presentation for the flock camera. Um and Chief Deinger reporting.

Good evening, council and mayor. Um here to to uh answer questions and have a little brief discussion about our uh automatic license plate reader system. What it is is a series of high-speed cameras combined with computer algorithms. Computer algorithms that create images of license plates and convert them into sharable, readable data. There we go.

Sharable, readable data. Um, data collected by uh an ALPR uh system includes license plate numbers, photographs, video, GPS coordinates, vehicle characteristics, and date and time. Um, the reason we're here is is back in 2023, we came before council and um asked to start this project, this um license plate reader project um with Flock. We asked for a total of eight cameras at that time for just over $57,000 or excuse me, just over $50,000. Um we have never got to the eight cameras. Um we we've been in the process of trying to do all eight cameras. It's it's um kind of a daunting task to try to find places to put them where um they'll be beneficial to us and also the owners or the people that are responsible for the property are are willing to do that. We have the biggest hiccup with with ODOT. Um the push back and and as you can imagine probably the major uh egress and ingress points of the city that we'd like to cover our od property. So we still have a couple sections that are pretty blind that we we would like to cover um for that. But but right now it's not not that way. Right now we have a total of six cameras that cost us about $3,000 a piece per year um for about $18,000 total a year um in the flock system. Um, I I've heard a lot of stuff about the legalities of flock, um, about the, um, unreasonable search and seizure effects that people feel. Um, I can assure you that that the courts have discussed those a number of times and and I have never or the courts have never identified um, ALPRs or license plate readers as as an excessive search. Um, there's a couple cases that I've met um, that I read. Um, one of the the main ones about priv uh private places um with your vehicle is United States versus Knox. And uh in that case um the court decided that a person traveling in an automobile on a public thoroughare has no reasonable expectation of privacy

in his movement from one place to another. And the vehicle movements have been voluntarily uh conveyed to anyone who wants to look. So they're putting themselves out, people are putting themselves out there in the public. um and the the cameras capture those images. Um and that was back in 1983. That's a that's a a case and it's kind of the banner case for a lot of these um public place um search and seizure protections. Um one of the more recent ones I found was United States versus Reuben, which is actually a court case out of the Ninth Circuit, um Northern California District, which is San Francisco. And everybody's aware, I'm sure, um if they're not, that that the Ninth Circuit is probably one of the most um liberal leading courts in the country. Um and and we struggle with that a lot. So um when the Ninth Circuit came out with this this ruling, it kind of surprised me and and it kind of put it put it in perspective for me. Um in in the context of the case, a gentleman was uh getting into a car. Um later detectives identified that gentleman through APL APLR data that that he was getting into the car and they identified the car later stopped to arrest him for possessions of firearms. Um they wanted the the evidence suppressed due to due to the poisonous tree doctrine. Um the court decided that because accessing ALPR data was not a fourth amendment search um the court rejected Rubin's argument that the evidence obtained as a result of the ALPR search should be suppressed. So um again ninth circuit ruling and that was back in 2021. I don't know if you guys are aware or not, but the Oregon legislature did some um extensive um debate over the this um topic in the last legislative session last legislative session.

Um the one thing they didn't debate at the at those sessions were the legality of flock cameras. the things they focused on was um the data that was shared and who it was shared with and um retention periods were the big ones. Um out of that uh out of that legislation legislative session came Senate Bill 1516 um which now places some some caveats on law enforcement's use of the ALPR system.

Um they are very um some of them were emergency clauses so as soon as the governor signed it they came into law. Um so some of these these are laws currently. Um, the Oregon state ensures that law enforcement agencies in Oregon can only use ALPR systems for criminal investigations, felony or misdemeanors, violations, um, other than traffic, um, outstanding criminal warrants, and missing endangered persons. Um, those are the uses. Data retention has been a big hot hot button for a lot of people. Um now currently in in the state of Oregon you can only retain that data for 30 days unless it's being used in a criminal proceedings and you can hold on to it longer.

Um the another thing was the the comparison to the databases like um some of the national databases and some of the hot lists that people put out throughout the state. Um the legislature said that that was fine as long as um we can ensure the accuracy of the stuff going into the system um and that we identify the people that are making the requests. we have to do it by name and agency of the request.

Some of the new laws also talks about searching and the logging requirements and again it's the person in the agency has to be identified um the date and time of the request a reference or case number if they have one and the purpose for the search. Um and all these current laws that that are in effect now because the governor has signed the bill. Um the only caveat to the laws is that that at no time can these provisions um take away from any of the sanctuary state laws that we have in Oregon or or curtail on those or or infringe on those at all.

Uh some of the the things that came out of that bill that that are not law that we will have to deal with when we renew our contract um has to do with some of the vendor um requirements that we'll we'll deal with when we renew our contract. some of the definitions, some of the sharing. Um, in the state of Oregon, we're allowed to share with all law enforcement entities within the state, um, except federal uh, law enforcement partners, but we're not allowed to share outside the state, which is fairly new as well. Also, monthly requirements for audits and yearly audits and and reports sent to the state. Um, so that's that's pretty much all that that that that bill uh requires for us, but I I I invited Officer Mesa here and Officer Gilmore to give some of the I'm not an expert on on Flock by any means. Um, I know that we're doing good work with Flock. I know that we've solved a bunch of cases, but these guys are are on the ground using Flock firsthand. Um, they're the ones that are are typing the numbers, getting the hits, and and um I just wanted them to explain Eddie just kind of their experience with Flock.

Very good. Thank you. Good afternoon. My name is Eddie Mesa. I've been a police officer since 2016 with this beautiful city. Uh the chief, like you said, he asked me to come in and share my experience with Faulk. Um like the chief stated, there are a lot of rules that go with it.

Um from the moment that you sign in, I put in my username and password. It's got two-factor authentication, so it sends me a code to my work cell phone. Uh so that way it knows that it's me. And then it asks for a lot of information before I can even search for anything. Uh, so one of the main things is you have to put in what type of investigation you're working on. So whether it be like a shoplift, a car theft, or any type of assault case, that's something that's required. If you already have a case number that you're working with, um, you're asked to put that in there as well. And like the chief said, um, it's we can actually choose on who can see our information. So for example, I had a the talent chief of police call in. She was working on a missing person one time and for whatever reason our agreements weren't set up to where they could access our cameras. So she requested our help and uh I conducted the search and you know it was interesting to see that it's not something open to everybody.

Um the most common way that I use it is in what you may expect is stolen cars. Um unless you're a car person, you're unlikely to have pictures of your car. Uh, and when you realize that your car is stolen, you're likely to be stressed and not remember the fine details. One of the great things about Flock is when I take a stolen car report, I'll immediately search it out in my car to see if it has gone in front of any of the cameras since it's been stolen. If it has not, then I run the search back, which is now limited to a month, just so I can get a picture of the car. This is extremely helpful because I take that picture, I create a bolo, and I send it out to the local agencies, uh, sheriff's office, state police, uh, whether it be a bolo through our CAD system or through an email. Um, but the greatest thing with it, uh, when it comes to the small details is things, like I said, that you may forget when you're stressed out because your car has been stolen. The one that I actually thought of a scenario as I was going over my scenarios in the back row is a couple years ago I had one car that was entered stolen and I ended up driving by it. It looked like the car but the license plate had been changed. So even if it went in front of a flaw camera it would not send me an alert saying this stolen car is in this area. However, I remembered the picture from when the report was taken and I was able to see that there was a bumper sticker on the bumper. Um, and when I realized it was the exact same sticker, I pulled the uh we were able to stop the car and realize it was the stolen car. It just had a different license plate on it. Um, another scenario that I had explained to the chief as I was going through my experiences with it. Uh, was actually a recent one. A couple of months ago, there was a stolen car that the sheriff's office took. Um, I'm currently the school resource officer at KU. So, I was sitting up there. I got the alert of a stolen car in the area of the Vioideuct, I believe it was. So, I

go down to the area. Uh, I'm on the phone with my co-workers. We're searching for this car, but because it doesn't read just license plates, it gives us a picture of the car as it's driving by the camera. I was able to note that the stolen car did not match. It was a correct plate on a different car. Um, so we were able to locate, uh, in this case it was a pickup. We stopped it and come to find out there was actually a second stolen car and they took the plates from the original stolen car and put it on the secondary stolen car. Sorry. Um, and so we were able to solve two stolen car cases in one single stop. Um, if you'll excuse me, I'm just going to go through my notes real quick. My last example that I'll give you guys is actually um again uh with the benefits of the pictures is you'll get constant alerts. So even if we don't get the car immediately, you know, if we respond to the area and that car has already gone somewhere else and we're unable to locate it. In one situation, I received constant alerts of a stolen car in the area for a while. Um because I received those alerts and I saw the picture. I was actually off duty. I was leaving AutoZone when I saw the car that had been reported as stolen and I received alerts on. I saw the stolen car. I called my co-workers that were working. I said, "Hey, this car, it's been on flock notifications all week. It's this direction on Washburn. Can you guys try and come get it?" And thankfully, they were able to respond in time and capture that car and get it back to the person that it belongs to. Um those are just your everyday uses of flock. It is a great tool, but then there's also the big investigations. So, um, most recent one that I've worked with was a drive by shooting in which we

only had a type of car. So, I was able to enter, you know, small SUV, the color, we were able to get a list of cars that were in the area and then we were able to develop a license plate and be able to place the person near the scene of the crime um, at that time. But those are my experiences. Um, I'm thankful for those tools and I thank you guys for proving it. Thank you.

Good evening. Good evening. For uh y'all that don't know me, I'm Officer Austin Gilmore. I've been with the Clanfall City Police Department for about five years now. Uh, just like Officer Masa here talked about, I've used Flock uh to recover numerous stolen vehicles. I recovered approximately 30 stolen vehicles last year. Um each one of those uh I used flocked either to identify the vehicle or um different descriptions of the vehicle. Some have different bumpers, different rims, which then helped lead me to the recovery um of 30 stolen vehicles last year to get back uh to the citizens that they got taken from. Uh additionally, um we have entered you can enter in vehicles for that can hidden our cameras for uh later times. We were working a burglary investigation um that was actually um just outside of the city limits with the Clamp County Sheriff's Department. We entered in a vehicle for them in our flock system cameras where it was a residential burglary where over 17 firearms were stolen as well as about $100,000 worth of property. Uh that vehicle hit in our flock system. We were able to stop the car um which led to the recovery of 17 of those firearms um to get back to the victim. Additionally, on one of the larger investigations that we had here last year, um I can't go into too much detail because the case has still gone and going, but he was a member of this community that was actively praying and hurting on females in this community. Um I entered that vehicle into flock and within three minutes I was able to locate him um and take him into custody so he's no longer um actively hurt members of this community. Um that is just some of the small um things that we've been able to do with Flock. It's a It's a great tool um that gives us an edge to see and track where vehicles are going that are in reference to any kind of investigation that we have ongoing. Thank you.

Very good. Thank you. Any questions? Questions, comments? Go ahead, Councelor Russo.

I'm sorry. Um I would just like to say thank you, Chief, and to y'all for coming here and giving this information. Um this is a new topic to the community. um people find out things um as they go along and as people are rolling those systems out and ideas come up and thoughts come up and concerns come up and so I really appreciate you taking this time to outline some of this stuff. I did look at some of that legislation that just came out and so that was good because it gave gave us some guard rails. Um my question is when you brought up chief in your um presentation you talked about the renewal process when we we go into that. Are we going to be able to touch on some of those things that we're not sure about as we proceed with moving forward or and clarify some of those things?

Our our contract's up in 2028, so we'll have it all all figured out exactly what we need. Um, and you know, not to reinvent the wheel, we'll draw other people's experiences with block and trying to get those those things ironed out and get it to the best. You know, it it's it's a lot of information and it's a lot of power. I get that. Um, I understand where people could have some angst about it. Um, but again, we're we're professional. Um, we use everything we do is professional. We have we have access to all kinds of data that um I mean we use appropriately. So,

thank you. Very good. Any other comments? Um, councelor Angeli. Yeah, I would like to say that I understand that tools always morph and they grow over time and more tools and better technology can help and be a huge benefit especially to law enforcement especially in rural areas. I see the value to that and I appreciate a professional um law enforcement community to be able to keep those guard rails up and uh really appreciate the results that you've been able to get out of that. Would would you and now since you're not only law enforcement in the community, but you're also residents of this community, would you have any feedback even if it was a little bit if there were any things that would you personally as as a resident of the community that would bother you about it or do you think the guard rails are up and we have a good enough professional community that could that keep could keep that up?

I I I think the guard rails are going to be help us. Um, I I think that there there's some it's been pretty clear from my my research that that when you're out in the public, you're your Fourth Amendment rights are diminished and everybody's aware of that. Um, there there's other issues like when you're in your doicile or in your house and you're using this technology, that's that's not okay. Um, but but that's pretty well spelled out in the court system. Um but but I I think the guards help with everybody's worry about really

excellent. Thank you. Really appreciate um the hard work you've all done on this. Councelor Mlen. Yeah. Thank you all for the presentation. What kind of measures do you have in place to protect the system from any kind of outside compromising whether that be hackers, federal oversight? That's part of the that's part of the new the legislation that goes into effect before you contract. A lot of it is information. The agency is supposed to information. Um but during the

during the during the the legisl legislation debates, they indicated that we as a police department had shared our information 85 times in the month of January to ICE agents, which in my We've never done that. We've never used it 85 times in January. Um, so I don't know where all this information comes. I've called Flock and Nobody can really tell me. But but it's definitely something that we're attuned to. They said when you said we, do you mean the city of Clamoth Falls? Oh, okay. And you don't know where that information came from? have no idea

because that would be a violation of sanctuary state, right? And again, it was during the legisle they were looking for about it, but we have never shared.

All right. Any other question or comment? Thank you again. I appreciate the information. That's very good. Thank you. Thank you.

Okay, that's the end of our um presentation. We will now go into public comment. So 4.1 public comment guidelines. Um public comment is a time for citizens to present information to the city and if based on what is presented, additional information is needed and or an answer warranted by the city, citizens will be contacted by the appropriate city staff and/or future agenda item will be scheduled for further discussion. Public comment is not a time set for question and answer. If counselors have questions, they will present it to staff and or the speaker at another time. And we'll start off with Andrea Rabbi Robbie and got three minutes. My name is Andrea Robbie and I have a business here in Clamoth Falls located in the city limit since 1997. We're a multi-million dollar small business. We currently employ 19 people full-time year round. Not huge, but big. When we look at your online profiles for each of you, business is a big deal. Economic development in the community, big deal. We work regularly with Cassita as an environmental consulting business to bring other companies in and to support them in their development within our community. I am extremely concerned about the conditions that my office building is succumb to on a daily basis. Mr. Jonathan Tyker, he toured my office about five weeks ago. Now, we have people living on the streets in their vehicles. We have people defecating and urinating on my empty lots. We have trespassing. We have garbage strewn about that then the wind blows and is all on my property. Over the weekend, I had everything cleaned on Friday. Over the weekend,

Monday morning, I had three contractor bags full of garbage.

I and my employees do not put that garbage on our property. It comes from Mr. Randy Moss's apartments across the street. He is currently going to court tomorrow morning in front of Judge Ratliff with $2,000 worth of fines because he can't keep the property cleaned up. That property blows down wind to my property. It is not safe for me and my employees, my female employees, to be there after hours when it's dark with these people living on the street. We have worked regularly with your livability team. Love them. Stephanie and Mr. Terry Amos are great. They're very helpful. They can only do so much if we do not have continued support upstream from city manager who I called repeatedly last week to give an update. Never had time to return my phone call. Captain Wheat never had time to return my phone calls last week. Seven of them. I spoke with Terry and Stephanie when they were available. Terry was out last week, but daily. They can only do so much. One of the people that's been living in his vehicle for a couple months on my street, he went in front of Judge Ratliff a couple weeks ago, three or four weeks ago, and was told, "Hey, you need to move. You have 24 hours." They booted his vehicle. He went back to Mr. Judge Ratcliffe and paid a $50 fine. I was told, "You guys don't take payments anymore." He got payments. $50. He's still living on my street two weeks later, defecating in my field. Putting garbage on the street. putting garbage in my field, making it unsafe for my employees to come to work. I think as a community and you as city council, we need to have this as an agenda item to talk about how we can get past just having a livability team that doesn't have any higher up support because at this point it doesn't do that much if they give a citation and it's turned back out.

So, please consider it on your agenda. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Um, Beverly Bowman. Beverly Bowman.

Hello. Hello. Respected uh, council. Uh, my name is Bev Bowman. I'm a citizen. I live near here. I walked here. I walk downtown all the time because I think walking is better than driving or whatever. Um, but I'm also a pretty much retired ER doctor. And in that capacity, I have seen thousands and thousands of accidents that didn't need to happen. You you work in the ER and on a daily basis, you see people, wow, that was a bad accident. Wow, sorry that happened. It didn't need to happen. It was preventable. So, the name of the game with so many things in medicine, including accidents, injuries, are prevent them before they happen. And I'm glad that the White Pelican presentation happened today. The problem that I um want to be addressed and not put on the back burner is those sidewalks are huge accidents waiting to happen. You can't park on Main Street over there and not jaywalk because otherwise you're walking where there's barricades and that is super uneven waiting for somebody to fall down, break their hip, hit their head on anti-coagulants could be life-threatening, you know, or jaywalk or or walk along the whole asphalt street until you can get to the crosswalk. on the other side on Esplanade, if you um you know, if you're if you're a family or you have kids who are in the commons in the summer, it's like we want people to go downtown. We need downtown to be walkable. You walk across three little um intersections and then you get to the sign that says sidewalk closed. Okay. So then you're like, "Oh, do I now need to go back across three and then a fourth one to get to the other side and then another one to cross the street to walk down maybe to buy something at the bakery, which everybody loves the bakery." You know, it's it's ridiculous how long this

has been put on the back burner. I'm glad that there's progress being made because of course everybody in the room wants that dirt pit to become something beautiful. But in the meantime, don't wait until there is a bad accident that could actually seriously harm someone if there hasn't already been. I'm I would be surprised if there hasn't already been an accident that has happened. Um I'd hate to see some kid dart out on esplanade, which could be hard to see by somebody driving down because you got these beautiful things in the middle of the road with the trees and the shrubs. some kid could easily get smacked and not be our neighbor anymore. So, please put this on a top burner um position as far as making those sidewalks safe so we don't have preventable accidents. Thank you very much for your time. Please address it.

Thank you. Thank you,

Mike Edwards. Good evening, council. My name is Mike Edwards. I'm a resident of Clamoth Falls, and I'm here tonight to speak in opposition to the use of flock cameras. Um, unlike red light speed cameras, which are triggered by specific violations, flock cameras record every vehicle that drives by the camera, then uploads this data to a server and creates a a vehicle fingerprint, which allows users of the flock database to track that vehicle anywhere it goes. And here's the key point, without a warrant. The Fourth Amendment is rather clear, and I would counter to the chief's comment that we give up our Fourth Amendment when we're in public. That's not true when there's a mosaic of cameras all around the community that are capturing individuals, likes, and creating a mosaic of the patterns and behaviors of said individual without a warrant. The United States Supreme Court case, Carter v. US ruled that using cell phone data location to track someone's movement is a search that requires a warrant under the fourth amendment of the US Constitution. In a case in Virginia, the chief judge in that case wrote that a reasonable person could believe that society's expectations as laid out by the court in Carpenter are being violated by the Norfork flock system. So we heard trust us. Well, there's a plethora of examples of law enforcement misusing flock database. There's an example in Texas, a law enforcement individual tracked a woman that he believed had done a homeinduced abortion. So, it's nice and we should trust our law enforcement, but what we do not have is we didn't have this conversation before the city and went into this business. you don't have any sideboards that have been developed in

conjunction with the residents of the community. There's a lot of chance for misuse and abuse of this data. Personally, I think my Fourth Amendment right and the Fourth Amendment right of everyone in this room and in this community is way more valuable than a stolen car. And it just pains me that once again, just like the jet on a stick, the city has gone down the road of doing something without the engagement and the involvement of the citizens of this community. You know, when did the city agree to buy this? Were there any public involvement in the discussion of that? What's the plan for protecting our privacy? That's my challenge to you as this comes up for renewal is put together a group of citizens and let's develop some rigid sideboards that protect our Fourth Amendment right. If law enforcement needs something, go to a judge, get a warrant. That's the way it's supposed to be done. The default should always be to conserve privacy and rights until determined to be congruent with the Constitution. The fact that our leaders disregard this issue and allow flock cameras to be used without prior to determining the legality of their use is wrong. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Um if we can hold that please Zach Edwards or Steuart. Zack Stewart.

Good evening everyone. I'm Zach. Uh before I hop into I would like to point out using the term automatic license plate reader is rather disingenuous. As was discussed here, license plates are only one dimension of the information taken. That being said, the whole reason we're here is that we are building the infrastructure for authoritar authoritarianism. It doesn't matter if you support the technology being used that way or not. That's what we're building. This is a tool that the government cannot be trusted with. Period. Even during good times, it would pose a danger. But we're not living in good times. Starting in 2018, the federal government began to recognize a doctrine doctrine of constitution free zones. that being any American within 100 miles of the US border, land or sea no longer has a Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable searches of seizure. It was noted that the doctrine meant that two-thirds of American American public no longer had fourth amendment protections. For eight years, Clement Falls was shielded from this. That is until immigration raids in Minneapolis, Minnesota this January. Starting in February this year, ICE and Customs and Border Patrol no longer recognized the Fourth Amendment as applying to any of their conduct. That means searching homes, vehicles, and possessions without warrants at the leisure of the immigration officer. Tim Walls, the Democratic governor of the state, suggested an off-ramp, night raids. He said it would be less disruptive if a suspect was truly a danger to come to their house in the middle of the night without notifying the family. That way, there would be no less commotion or would be less commotion and less of an ability for the public to interfere. This is the exact technology you would that you would use for that purpose to compile lists of activists, citizens not in good standing, immigrants, and their families. and important importantly tracking at which points in time they are at home or working. It shouldn't surprise you that ICE has requested data from Flock more than 4,000 times in the last year. And despite insisting Flock does not hand over this information in m municipalities with sanctuary state laws, they do so anyways. The Warsaw get Warsaw ghetto was not filled by lists compiled with pen and paper. The lists of Jews and gypsies and social undesirable people were made and kept using an IBM mainframe. that that mainframe would be laughably slow in comparison to the average calculator

today. But in the wrong hands, it was used to carry out the unjust imprisonment and murder of more than 11 million innocent people. Your phone in itself is 10 billion times more powerful than those mainframes. And the data centers that process this data or are orders of magnitude more powerful than that. You might think this is a useful tool to make sure no one ever steals from a big box store ever or no cars go missing. But that's not what this is going to be used for. Is this what we want to cosign? Is this the world that we want to leave to our children? Do we really think that our wealth can protect our children from the monster we're building? I yield my time. Thank you. Thank you.

No. Um, we're not going to do that. Please don't clap. Um, Ren Shocki sec. At many a time in many a land with many a gun in many a hand. They came by the night, came by the day. They came with their guns to take us away with a knock on the door. Knock on the door. Here they come to take one more. One more. Many centuries ago in the Roman Empire, they died by the cross and they died by the fire. In the stone coliseum, the crowd gave a roar and it all started out with that knock on the door. That old knock on the door. Knock on the door. Here they come to take one more. One more. Now the years have all passed. We've

reached modern times. The Nazis have come with their Nazi war crimes. Oh, the power was there. The authority was found. Nearly 12 million people. They heard that same sound of a knock on the door. Knock on the door. Here they come to take one more. One more. Look over the oceans. Look over the lands. Look over the leaders with the blood on their hands. And open your eyes and see what they do when they knock over. There they are knocking for you with that knock on the door. Knock on the door. Here they come to take one more. One more. Doesn't matter what you want the tool to be used for. It's what it's going to be used for. These tech companies are rapists with your data. They're going to take what they want regardless. There's no system that they'll build that they'll market to the public or to a municipality that they don't have a back door for, whether it's for the federal government or whatever other purpose they want to use it for, marketing or otherwise. Thank you for your consideration to this matter.

Thank you. Jesse Kane.

Hello, I am Jessica Kaine. Um, I live in the city. Um, I don't have much to say that already hasn't been said. Um, no to flot cameras. I'm a disabled veteran. I've already put in my lot for this country and I am paying for it and I don't want to continue to live in authoritarian regime. Thank you. Thank you.

Sherannne Bashard. My name is Sherannne Buchard and I am here to oppose the flock cameras. Um, they make me and my neighbors feel unsafe. I don't like having them in our community. I've seen and read way too many instances of abuse of these systems. A lot of cities in Oregon have already done the right thing and disabled these cameras to protect our rights as citizens and I would like to ask you guys to consider doing the same thing. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Is that it? Okay, those are all the public comment forms we have for this evening. Thank you all. Go on to consent agenda.

I'll wait if anybody wants to go at this time. Very good.

You're welcome to say if you want, but we're going to continue. Consent agenda. The action 5.1 the approval of the consent agenda meeting agenda and prior meeting minutes from March 16th 2026 provided under separate cover and 5.2 and 5.3 5.2 authorization of contract amendment number two to the consultant service contract with RH2 Engineering Inc. for the design of an emergency use water fill station in the not to exceed amount of 25,516. 5.3 The authorization to purchase of a ditch witch mid uh mini skid steer SK1 1750 in the not to exceed amount of 58,598.46 from Charles Machinery Works Inc. And uh we do have um u the directors in the room if you'd like to speak to them.

I don't have any questions. No questions. Okay. Then I will um entertain a motion. Move to approve the consent agenda. Second. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed. Very good. Number six, land use public hearing quasi judicial 6.1. A special ordinance reszoning approximately 0.14 acres of land addressed as 2682 and 2684 Campus Drive from campus planned unit development medical professional to campus planned unit development neighborhood commercial first reading. And we have planning manager Joe Wall reviewing.

Thank you everybody. Now I was going to make a joke that nobody cares about land use but it just is what it is. Please,

right. Nevertheless, a zone change of property um already developed unit of land about 0.15 acres immediately at the corner of the campus and Daget intersection, the roundabout. Um it is currently zoned campus planned unit development medical professional. Uh we have a request from the property owner to go to neighborhood commercial within the same PUD. Um staff looks over a series of different criteria when we do a zone change such as would there be traffic impacts? Are there adequate capacities for existing infrastructure? Um is there contiguity with the similar zoning and the like area? So when we look at campus planned unit development, neighborhood commercial, it does exist kind of up and down campus drive and on the immediate opposite side of I guess the west side of campus. I talk too much.

That's true. Okay. So, I would say that we spend a lot of time with planning commission going over the specific review criteria. Um, we had our planning commission meeting about two weeks ago um where they heard staff's presentation. Um, a short public hearing and then unanimously recommended those findings and the zone change approval to the city council.

Um, if we'd like to, we can bring up the image kind of showing where this property is at. Um, again, kind of right at the southeast base of the roundabout entering Skylakes Medical Center. I will note that any change of use would require a separate application with our office. So, they would have to go through separate review criteria should you want to change it to a use allowed in neighborhood commercial, which similarly allows medical office, but you could do potential retail or even residential type uses at that corner. So, um, with that, I I guess over to council if there's any questions of staff and then we have

question or comments, I'd like to open it up for a public hearing at this time. Anybody wishing to speak on this agenda item can do so at this point. And seeing and hearing nobody, we will close or excuse me, go ahead. No, no, don't close up hearing. Just immediately prior to closing, I wanted to if anybody wanted to speak. Uh but I would as part of the public hearing I want to present the criteria as recommended by the planning commission the findings and criteria as the city's evidence in the public hearing. Very good. Very good. Okay. We will close the public hearing at this time.

I would move to accept the proposed findings as presented by staff and recommended by the planning commission. Second. All in favor say I. I. I. Any opposed? Um, should we just keep going? Move to approve the requested zone change from campus planned unit development medical professional to campus planned unit development neighborhood commercial based on accepted findings. Second. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Okay. Move to introduce the ordinance for first reading by title only. Second. All in favor say I. I any opposed? Are you reading anything? Yeah.

City manager, please read title. A special ordinance reszoning approximately.14 acres of land addressed as 2682 and 2684 campus drive from campus planned unit development medical professional to campus planned unit development neighborhood commercial. Move to adopt the ordinance. Oh no, no, no, no. That number is reading. Yeah, that's first. We have to do it the next meeting. Oh, okay. We'll pass it and adopt it. Okay. Is that six? 7.1.

7. Okay. General public hearing 7.1. A resolution adopting a supplemental budget for the 2025 2027 bianual budget period within the general fund, economic development, property fund, capital projects fund, and wastewater fund. Finance director Jessica Lindseay reporting. Thank you.

Good evening, Mayor and Council. I have a supplemental budget for you. Um this includes um rollover of prior bianium items, an increase in some costs of stuff we already have budgeted. It also includes some purchases with additional funds that we received from auction and grant funds. Um two of the notable items are um the additional engineering staff that we're adding to the air national guard projects. um it's taken a lot of our time and so that will help us to to keep service up in that department and um and then for 450,000 for the remodel of the new building we purchased.

Very good questions or comments? At this point, I'd like to open up for public hearing. Anybody wishing to speak on this agenda item can do so at this point. And seeing and hearing nobody, we will close that motion. I'll move to introduce the resolution and read by title on them. Second. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? City Manager Tiger, please read the resolution by title.

A resolution adopting a supplemental budget for the 2025 through 2027 bianual budget period within the general fund, economic development property fund, capital projects fund, and wastewater fund. I'll move to approve the resolution. Second. Roll call, please. Council Angelene. I council. I council. Hi. Very good. Under legislative action 8.1, the authorization of modification to facility sustainment, repair, modernization, cooperative agreement with National Guard Bureau for the repair of the B216 project. Airport Business Manager Colin Grandandy.

Good evening, Mayor and Council. I'm going to keep this one short. It's pretty simple. Um, our uh so the city has entered into an agreement with the Air National Guard and National Guard Bureau to uh remodel uh building 216. Uh construction is currently underway and the Air National Guard uh has requested a modification to the agreement to add additional funding that's going to cover a forthcoming change order in construction. And I'm open to any questions you guys may have. Questions or comments?

No. I'll entertain a motion. I'll move to authorize the city manager to execute modification number two to the facilities sustainment repair modernization cooperative agreement FSRMCA with a national guard bureau in the amount of $12,000 600 $12,610 for the repair of the B26 project. Second.

All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? 8.2 the authorization to purchase the remote terminal unit RTU and the remote input output panel RIO from the automation group inc tag for the um South Sixth Street booster station project in the not to exceed amount of 128,621 and water manager Robbie West reporting.

All right, thank you mayor, city manager and council. Uh back again with our South Lake S Street booster station. Um as the mayor read, this is just to purchase a couple units from TAG, who was our integrator of record for all of our skate equipment, um to get this station online once production is done. Um one thing to note, I think, is that this was originally budgeted in this project, but because of the complexity and the scale of the amount of work needing to be done in the SCADA system, rather than having the contractor do it, we chose to have our integrators come in and do it in uh in tangent with them. uh they specialize in this and it's a lot of high-end equipment as you can see. Um it was part of the original budget. Um and everything uh would normally have been in that scope, but we decided to pull that out and be more than happy to answer any other questions you guys might have about it.

Any questions or comments? I'll entertain a motion. I'll move to authorize the city manager to execute the necessary documents to purchase the RTU and RAIO panel from TAG for the South Six Street booster station project in the not to exceed amount of $128,621. Second, just note that. Okay. Um 8.3 I They got to take Oh, sorry. Go ahead. Take a motion or motion. I second it. All in favor say I.

I. Any opposed? Very good. 8.3. Item pulled for management. We'll go to 8.4. A special ordinance annexing a 0.43 acre property addressed as 5641 Homedale Road and assigned a medium density residential zoning designation. Second and final reading. And if there are any questions, planning manager Joe Wall would be happy to report. Doesn't look like he's anticipating any. Now I want to take the one. Do you have any jokes? Jokes. I'll move to pass the ordinance for second and final reading by title only. Second. All in favor say I. I.

Any opposed? City manager, please read. A special ordinance annexing a 43 acre property addressed as 5641 Homedale Road and assigning a medium density residential zoning designation. Move to adopt the ordinance. Second. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Okay, we need to do a roll call on that one. Okay. Sorry, we're going to do a roll call on that one. I Thank you. Good job. Thank you.

8.5 A special ordinance annexing a 12.60 60 acre property addressed as 320 DAP Road and assigning a public facility zoning designation. Second and final reading. And if there are any questions again, planning manager Joa questions, comments. Okay, I'll move to pass the ordinance for second and final reading by title only. Second. Third. I'll take. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Uh, city manager Jonathan Tiger, please read the ordinance by title.

A special ordinance annexing a 12.60 acre property addressed as 3200 deap road and assigning a public facility zoning destination. Move to adopt the ordinance. Second. Roll call, please. Council, I. Council Ros, I. Very good. And other matters. Who's that? Robbie.

Oh, Robbie West. Would you like to come on up? Thanks for all you do and I appreciate this um proclamation. So the city of Clamoth Falls, Oregon proclamation in the matter of proclaiming April 2026 as national safety digging month in the city of Clamoth Falls, Oregon. Whereas each year, Oregon's underground utility infrastructure is jeopardized by unintentional damage by those who fail to contact Oregon 811 to have the underground utilities located prior to digging. And whereas the Oregon utility not notification center provides a free service that notifies utility companies of the intent to dig by calling 811 or submitting a request online. And whereas after notification is made, professional utility indicators provide color-coded paint markings on the ground to indicate the presence of underground facilities. And whereas failure to locate underground utilities before digging results in potential undesired consequences such as critical service interruption, damage to the environment, property damage, and personal injury, and even death. And whereas through awareness, a safe digging practice, professional excavators and homeowners can save time and money, keeping our state connected by calling or clicking in advance of any digging project, waiting the required time for lines to be located and digging with care around the marked lines. And whereas safe digging is a shared responsibility and the damage prevention community reminds all excavators that

safety is in your hands every day every time. Now therefore, I, Mayor Carol Westfall, proclaim and acknowledge the month of April 2026 as National Safety Digging Month. And I encourage all Clamoth Falls citizens to join in observance signed on this date um the 6th of April, 2026. And thank you, Robbie, for all you do.

All right. Thank you. Well, again, uh thank you, mayor, city manager, and council members. Uh for those of you who may not know, uh as part of my role with the city and the water manager specifically, uh I am on a couple of committees. Uh one is our local KUCC, which is uh uh made up of all the utilities and a lot of the contractors and operators that uh want to represent sake digging in our community. Uh I'm also on the Oregon Utility Notification Center. Uh it's actually a governor appointed member of board of directors and I represent uh all cities under 25,000 in the state of Oregon. And so this proclamation is is awesome. Uh this has been done in the past by the state and by other cities. And so we wanted to follow suit. So just have a quick statement uh I'll read. Uh every day in Oregon, an average of 3.85 underground utilities are damaged by homeowners or professional excavators digging on their property or job site. The consequences can be severe. As part of the national April observant of National Safe Digging Month, the Oregon Utility Notification Center, Oregon 811 sincerely appreciates the council's decision to issue a proclamation recognizing this important safety initiative in the city of Clement Falls. This proclamation highlights the critical role of Oregon's free notification system, which allows anyone to request underground utilities by calling 811 or visiting Oregon 811 at least two days before digging. Requests can be submitted at any time, any day, and at no cost. We at Oregon 811 often say that safety is in your own hands because every individual has the power to prevent service outages, expensive repairs, environmental harm, injuries, and far worse by not calling and locates. Contacting 811 before you dig ensures you won't need to contact 911 afterwards. National Safe Digging Month also marks the unofficial start of our dig season when excavation activity is at its peak. And reports show that more than half of US homeowners typically begin digging projects without requesting utility locates, often due to lack of awareness or the assumption that shallow digging is safe and won't hurt anything.

Uh nationwide, these damages usually are estimated to cost about $30 billion annually. Um so as you recognize National Safe Digging Month, the Oregon Utility Notification Center extends its sincere thanks to the council for helping promote this essential safety message that we all try to share. Thank you. Thank you. Question, Robbie. trees. When people are planting trees, they need to realize that as well, huh? Yeah. Anytime you plant trees, uh even something as simple as planting flowers. Um what a lot of people don't realize is utilities are not just in the rightways. Uh for us at the water division, fortunately ours are, but if you're using, you know, we have uh

Spectrum and Charter, Hunter, um telephone power, all those utilities usually are on the side of the house, gas, um and things can happen, you know, with water. If you hit water with an undamaged line, um, creates a lot of erosion issues and a lot of damage that way. But if you strike a power or a gas line, uh, it can be fatal. And, you know, we as operators, all the divisions of the city, all of public works, all the other divisions, we all take part in this. We have an excellent locator that works on staff for us. Um, and we, you know, use the service, not just as operators, but also as excavators, also as locators, and also as citizens. So, very good. Thank you so much for your Absolutely. Thank you guys very much. Mhm. Thank you. Go ahead, councelor. Um, Angel,

just just kind of anecdotal information on that. Um, you just never know because especially in a community as old as ours is, um, actually with a rake hit a exposed or unexposed gas line less than an inch underneath the surface. So, you just never know what you're going to hit in areas that in the middle of a yard. So, I would Yeah, it's personal experience. I would say it's good to know what's around before you start digging at all. So and and it's doesn't matter if it's public right away, private property, no matter how big, how small, you should always call before you dig state. And it's free. It is free. Yep. Free and easy to use. Yes. Councelor Russo,

I just want to follow up on a couple of the public comments tonight. Um can I request followup from staff on that? Uh, Jonathan, can you reach out to that young that woman who was trying to get a hold of you and talk to her a little bit about those things, please? And then the other thing I was wondering is the other public comment by Mrs. Bowman. Um, regarding the sidewalks, like is there a way since we are moving forward slightly in small ways with the Pelican project that we could connect with them of like backing that fence off a little bit or doing something by the sidewalks because it is going to still be some time before this project's underway. And she's not wrong about some of the issues with those sidewalks right there. And if we want to be preventative, um, it would be nice to see if there's a way that we can collaborate with them. um and do something to make that that area more accessible for especially as the summer months come upon us and people are downtown and

it is a bit problematic. I've noticed that the the bushes and everything look good. They they they look better. I don't know if it's just because you know on that part right on esplanade where across where it's sometimes hard on that little area that corner to see when you're turning. Um they look fine right now but I know with the summer months coming they'll probably start to grow. So, just being more conscious of that corner there and seeing if there's a way we can make it a little bit better. Um, because it it's true. That's what she was talking about, that area with those sidewalks could be problematic. So, just looking into it and seeing um your thoughts having public works go down there and look at it.

Yeah, we can we can certainly look at that. I'm not sure a reason why somebody would be actually walking on that interior block, but we can certainly look at

there's a lot of walk. There's walking during like when the farmers market is out. There's walking. I've seen people going from the bookstore corner there over to like where Common Block is. Like I see it a lot cuz I drive that path every day from home and work. And so it is trafficked, you know, and especially as it gets nicer weather from the bakery up to Main Street, people do tend to walk in that area. And and honestly, it's mostly people like younger people or people on bikes that aren't using the other side of the sidewalk um that tend to be over on that side. They're just making those choices like they're not really thinking. But I just want to look into it and okay and see what we can do. Go ahead, counselor.

And I actually I actually would second that a little bit because I've noticed over the last few years because of the length of that if it was a shorter term project, I don't think it would have been as much. But with new people over the course of time um especially visitors that it's heaved much more and become much more dangerous than it used to be. So I I do have concern in that as well.

Yeah. Any other um comment on other matters? Go ahead councelor Angelie. just an observation and something I'd like to um make sure that people and remind people that we're in our 250th year anniversary for this nation. And I don't know, I haven't seen a whole lot of talk or anything about that, but we are a very patriotic community and we do do a lot in our community, especially with parades and things like that. And I am aware that there are some people working behind the scenes to really make that come together with volunteerism and would really like people to help out and support and volunteer with that. And one of them would be the veterans advisory council that's putting together I believe our parade this year. They stepped up to do that and um they really could use the support on that and possibly fireworks again um are in the in the works. So being such a special event and time, I don't think there's been enough oomph behind that and I'd really like to see our community step up to the plate. We do for every other parade.

We should really be doing that for these. So just reminder more than anything. Mhm. I think also fireworks are something to consider with this fire season coming up that we should be discussing as far as the safety of uh fireworks and how we're going to address that. So, I think we know it's going to be dry. Yeah, it's not going to be good. Any other comment or question? Okay. At this point, I will entertain a motion to adjurnn. So, moved. All in favor say I. I. I. Any oppose? Meeting is journed.