Tri-City Council - Regular Meeting

Good afternoon and welcome to the normally scheduled meeting of the Kingman City Council held at 5 p.m. on Tuesday, August 4th, 2026. We'd like to turn some time over to our city clerk for roll call.

Mayor Watkins?

Present.

Vice Mayor Sammely? Here. Council Member Dikins?

Here.

Council Member Savage?

Here.

Council Member Staley? Present. Council Member Walker? Here. Council Member Ward?

Here.

We have a quorum.

Thank you. We'd like to invite those who would like to stand with us during our invocation, which will be given by Pastor Michael Bell of the Kingman Nazarene Church, after which I will lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance.

Good afternoon. Let us pray. Almighty God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praise, glory, and honor belong to you. For you are our Creator, Sustainer, and Savior, and it is for your name's sake that we call upon you today. Yahweh, let your mighty name be glorified by what this board decides today. Elohim, we ask that you give your hand of blessing on this board, this meeting, and upon the whole of this city. Holy Spirit, protect all of its workers and its inhabitants, and may this be a place one of blessing and prosperity. Bless us now, mighty God. In the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen.

Amen.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation,

The council may go into executive session for legal counsel in accordance with ARS 38-431.03 A3 to discuss any agenda item. The following items may be discussed, considered, and decisions made relating thereto. Item number one, appointments. 1A, Airport and Industrial Park Advisory Commission partial term appointment. The Airport and Industrial Park Advisory Commission currently has one vacancy due to the resignation of Commissioner John Stutzman. This is a partial term appointment with a term starting August, 2026 and ending December 31st, 2028. Staff has received seven applications from the following interested individuals. Carl Stewart, Kathy Gates, John Molitor, Christopher Akers, Dr. William Christensen, Jake Van Cleve, and Christopher Cranny. Staff has received three county resident applications from the following interested individuals. Jeremy Brunk, John Berger, and William Davis. The code allows... for two non-residents on the commission and there's currently only one non-resident residency and voter registration have been confirmed council discretion per ars 38-431.03a1 the city council may enter into an executive session to review the commission applications as you heard we have a lot of applicants that have applied and we truly appreciate that as as your willingness to serve on this commission. We'd like to invite those who might be here, and I'll call the names up if they'd like to come and speak and share with us a little bit about themselves and their desires to be on this commission. Let's start with Carl Stewart, if he is here. Okay. Kathy Gates. John Molitor, and forgive me if I mispronounce these names too, by the way. Christopher Akers. I know Dr. Christensen's not here. Annie, you did have a note on this about Dr. Christensen. Is there anything?

He provided a letter that's in your guys' materials.

Okay, real good. Thank you. Jake Van Cleave. Okay, Jake, if you'd like to come up.

Hello, everyone. My name is Jake Van Cleave. I was born and raised in Kingman. I live inside the city limits. I'm a local business owner and developer with three properties and 20,000 square feet under ownership here in town. Over the course of my life, I have seen this town grow a lot. While some people may see my young age as inexperience, I think it gives me a unique advantage to see and plan for the future of this town for decades to come. Thank you. Thank you, Jake. Yes?

I have a question for you. Are you a pilot?

I'm not, no. But I do a lot of work as an electrician out at the industrial park. So I'm very familiar.

Thank you.

Thank you, Jake. Anyone else? OK, thanks. Christopher Cranning.

Good evening. I've spoken about my ideas for a data center previously, so it would just be basically the same as I've stated before. I've also talked about my background before, so I won't, you know, duplicate the wheel with that. But I do have a new idea. There's a company called Surf Air Mobility and they specialize in software and regional hubs for airlines. I think Kingman being a regional hub and helping other regional hubs to efficiently design themselves would be a really good idea. If we could recruit and retain a corporation like Surf Air Mobility, who combines both the software and the new tech like electric airplanes, that would just be amazing. And then I would also like to see an experimental computer center, I've also talked about that previously, that can use light beams, that can use a plastic polymer or a composite material instead of metal for computers. And this would help Kingman to be a leader in ethical data centers that don't use cooling as much. Because when you use cooling too much, there's a concern with pollution. That's why I say ethical data center. And I also spoke about that previously at my economic development commission application. So yeah, I think that about covers it.

Thank you, Christopher. Yes. Yes. Counselor.

Mr. Cranny? Yes. Are you a pilot?

I'm not, no.

OK, thank you.

Yep.

Next, we have Jeremy Brunk. And John, is it John Berger or Berger? Okay. And then William Davis. Great, thank you. As I mentioned, we are very thankful for all those who have turned in their names and submitted interest in being on this commission. Councilor, I mean, council, I think we need to, we'd like to go into executive session. Would someone like to make a motion doing that?

So moved.

second we have motion we have a second all those in favor say aye aye aye any opposed okay we will be right back thank you Well, thanks for everybody staying here, and we appreciate that. It means a lot. Well, we have to come together as a council, and so I would entertain one of our council to make a nomination of our candidate.

I would like to nominate Will Davis.

Okay, thank you. Do we have a second? I'll second that. Okay, we have a motion and a second. All in favor of William Davis going on to this commission, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Once again, we'd like to thank everybody else that is here and taking the time out of your lives to be here and put your interest in this and continue because coming this fall, in December, there are a number of commissions, including this one, where there will be vacancies available. So please apply again. Item number two, awards recognition. A, Kingman Fire Department honored as Arizona's ACTEAZ Outstanding Business and Industry Professional of the Year. Chief?

Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council, thanks for giving me a few minutes tonight. So we are honored to receive this. Hopefully you had the flyer or the press release to see it, but I just want to read just a brief section of it. We would like to congratulate City of Kingman Fire Department along with Assistant Chief Tom Flanagan and Lead Instructor Captain Brian Nahr on being named Arizona's ACTEAZ Outstanding Business and Industry Professional of the Year. This honor reflects the incredible partnership between the City of Kingman Fire Department and the WAVE JTED Fire Academy program, which has been operating since 2019. The City of Kingman Fire Department appreciates the recognition of our dedication to the community and our continued efforts over the past five years to truly make a difference for those in the WAVE JTED Fire Academy. and throughout our community. This was a big honor for us because we put a lot of time and commitment into this program. Last year, and I don't want to go back further because I just can't remember how many kids, we've done a lot of them, but last year we graduated 16 out of the program. We were just talking 100% success rate out of the 16 that ended up with not a state cert, a national certification, that they can go anywhere. This year, where we start next week, Next Monday starts the next group, and we have 20 kids this year going through it. And they interviewed probably double that. The kids are wanting in this class. We were just talking. The city has hired nine of these students. students that have graduated the program that are currently full-time employees for the city of kingman the districts around us we approximate that to be about 15 candidates and then i was just informed we have kids that are working in california utah nevada tennessee that have all graduated out of our program chief flanagan's the coordinator for us for that program and then captain brian narr is the lead instructor and and i'm just so proud of them because we're not teaching just the fire academy. We're teaching leadership skills, integrity, work ethic, all of that that they're gonna need to be able to be successful after they graduate our program. So exciting news to be able to bring this to you. So thank you.

Thank you, Chief. We are so proud of our fire department. All of you doing an amazing job of protecting our community. We appreciate that. Council, any questions or comments for Chief?

I just had a comment. I love the coordination between us and the WAVE CTED program. I love that we're growing our own and that is so important that we keep those folks here and that they get invested and they stay here and they grow their families here and they retire here. So anytime we can grow our own, it's always a good idea. So kudos to everybody that's involved with that program. Thank you very much. It's great for our community.

Thank you.

Yes, Councillor.

I'm thrilled to hear how many graduates that have actually been hired, not only in Kingman, but Mojave County and elsewhere. It just shows the level of training that our people are doing to qualify all of them, for get that many qualified to be hired. That's excellent.

Well, the other component of that is Wave JTED also covers the EMT for them, so we have these kids coming out of high school that are not paying for, I mean, we are building them for success, and it's all paid for, and they're coming into careers right out of high school, and that's pretty cool stuff.

Chief, you mentioned that you hired nine. How many apply for those openings?

Oh, gosh, it's been over the five years. So we haven't had a whole lot of openings. So we get, you know, a lot of them apply. We're just fortunate when we do our testing that we try and get the best of the best. But they keep coming back applying. Even when they go to other agencies, they want to come back here. But unfortunately, we just only have so many openings. So it's, you know, we'll see more of them. eventually coming back to the city, especially with Station 5 coming on board. We're pretty excited, especially this group coming up. That's 20 students, and a year from now, they'll all be hopefully certified and ready to go to work.

Well, and what a statement that makes to all the other area, you know, departments that these, you know, applicants keep on applying to be on our, you know, be a part of your team.

And the other thing that's good, too, is other agencies now have seen the value in this program. So now Bullhead City does Wave J TED. Is Havasu doing, not yet? They're doing pieces of it. So we're starting, which is fine, which is what we want. We want more opportunity for the high school kids, getting ready to go into the world. And so we're doing everything even to help them. We're just all working together to make this happen. And then we still have the fire science program at Lee Williams that we feed that as well. So again, we're doing everything we can for the hometown kids to build them and get them ready.

Well, once again, congratulations on this award. Council, any other comments? Oh, yes. Oh, yes, we'd like to get a photo up. I know you have a number of members here, so we'd like to do that if that's possible. Council?

Yeah, that would be great, thank you. Okay, thanks.

Great job. Thank you. Thank you.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, Tony. Yep.

Gentlemen, thanks again.

Mayor? Yes. Just for the record, my grandson was one of those that attended the training, graduated, and got hired by Kingman. Then he moved on to another department. But he started here.

Well, congratulations, Councillor. That's great. Yeah. Carrying on the family tradition. So thank you. Item number three, presentations. A, the retail coach report. I see that we have Caleb Wilson on board. Caleb? Is there any? I'm here. I see Bennett's not here, so City Manager, do you want to lead off?

Unfortunately, Bennett isn't able to be here with us tonight, but yes, we have Caleb here, and Caleb's going to give us an update on all the good things wanting to come to Kingman. Welcome, Caleb.

No pressure or anything. That's good. I... I appreciate you all letting us periodically come and do these as often as we can to not repeat too many things. It's been a real pleasure in all seriousness and always is to work with the city of Kingman the contacts that we have there on both the city and the development team. You know, we, we see the communication transition into the conversations with these retailers, restaurants and developers so effortlessly. And it's a really good thing to see in our industry. And it's been a great experience, as always. So question, do I need to share? the presentation via the screen, or do you all have it in front of you?

If you could share it, Caleb, that would be great.

Okay, okay, I will share it. Yep, I've got it pulled up. It's probably not... It's pretty, I've got it up in a PDF, but we'll work with it. So for those who aren't familiar with us at The Retail Coach, so The Retail Coach, real quickly, super brief, we are a retail consulting firm on behalf of municipalities all over the country. Kingman's been a partner for a few years now. We've candidly been very successful in getting the right word out about Kingman and having a lot of success of brands. One moving here and then quite a few in the hopper, if you will, of wanting to be here. You know, our goal is strictly to grow the retail restaurant hospitality base of Kingman. You know, we act on behalf of the economic development team in the city. We do not have a vested interest in a particular property or a set of properties. And that's what makes us a great third party and partner to the city of Kingman. So I'll get into it here. And again, quick recap for those who don't know um you know we we actually go into these communities and help identify those opportunities that are in kingman for example actively recruit those retailers and restaurants and hospitality teams that want to be there and are attainable for for this this market um and then obviously you know as a long-term partnership we we do and have been coaching city kingman and our counterparts here um throughout this process and you know going forward Again, just some administrative things just to recap for those who have not heard us discuss this item in the past. We do track the city of Kingman as a trade area and market it that way. We do have a primary and a secondary trade area. This is what we would call the total trade area map for the city of Kingman. We utilize this information instead of your community demographics, because what this polygon is showing you is the regular customer base on a monthly basis, if you will, of those who come eat and shop and play in Kingman. So on a very regular basis, you do have a very large regional reach. No question to anybody in the room or online, I would imagine. In addition to all of the traffic, of course, that along 40, you know, traveling between other major metros. So, Kingman has always been a very strong base. You know, there's no question that it's continued to grow. But just to compare, you know, what those numbers look like, again, my screen may look very tiny to you on Wherever you're seeing this, but my cursor is on the left red side here, showing that 36,000 mark for the city limits number. And I'll just switch briefly here. That number jumps up to 167,000 for that total trade area. Obviously, major differences, but wanted to put some numbers to where those come from and what they're showing. Incomes are slightly adjusted, obviously, for that trade area down because you are encompassing a lot more rural area. And so those numbers do come down slightly, but when we share and market Kingman during these recruitment efforts of these businesses to come here, it's obviously a full scale view of it. So we have multiple points of, multiple talking points of, this is the total trade area, this is what the income may be, or the race distribution, educational attainment, whatever is most important to those brands, we highlight those during those conversations. Since we've been together and partners for a few years now, I put a little graph on here for everybody just to kind of show the growth that you all have seen from your trade area and what we're looking at going forward. So the next five years, we're looking at jumping that number over another 5%. We've projected that population to grow that much within that polygon that we showed earlier. So things are moving very much in the right direction for a lot of different reasons for the trade area in Cayman in the greater Mojave area. one one of the one of the things that you know i just want to note that when we go out and actually have these conversations as a partner of kingman it happens in many different forms uh one of these forms is is that going out there to these trade shows and having these conversations in person um we all recently went together to the sasc las vegas uh show uh just back in may a very successful show i had many meetings out there i think there was a prior meeting where We talked with the council and council probably presented their update of how that went as well. We do have an upcoming one here in California and San Diego at ICSC Western in September. which will be another kind of regional focus for those brands that are looking to expand in Arizona, Utah, and California primarily. Those markets typically are the most present during that show. So we'll have a number of conversations there as well. And then obviously the other forms that we do these conversations in is all over the place. So text, email, phone call, in-person, coffee meetings, whatever it may be when we're in those folks area. So all of this happens in very different formats, but it's calculated, right? So we're not just casting a net out to 200 different brands all at once. It's a very diligent and focused effort of what's the right teams to look at Keeman right now? So just keep all that in mind as we kind of go through high level of these retail segments that we're currently in conversation with. And I didn't note today's meeting of past wins or anything, but I'm happy to get into that. Maybe the next time I'll highlight kind of where we are to date since the start of the partnership of Keeman. kind of how many wins have happened how many brands have located in kingman um you know because of this partnership but um these are ongoing conversations that i wanted to point out today so if we're looking just in the casual sit-down restaurant segment we do have one in conversation currently um where they've been looking for some time uh in all seriousness they do have two side options that they're considering at this point um in two different areas of kingman But they're motivated to get something solidified so they can get this within their development pipeline because it is a large brand. And the longer that things don't come to fruition of getting the deal done for a particular site, that timeline does unfortunately push it back further and further a little bit until they're ready to open. But nonetheless, that's That happens with many brands, so it's not abnormal for that to be part of the conversation. That brand, that casual sit-down restaurant, not had something happen where the cities hindered them from moving forward. It's just been specific deal conversations that just haven't come to fruition, unfortunately. And it's very common, again, that we see those kind of things happen. And regardless, they're concentrated and focused on Kingman selectively. We know that Kingman's their spot that they want to be in the greater area. So we certainly will continue to follow up with them going forward. If we're looking at just the quick service and fast casual, we're in four in conversation currently. One is currently under contract. So we hope to soon announce another win here within the next 60 to 90 days. Two of these four in conversation are franchise driven. So they're very particular and it's a very time sensitive kind of conversation. One's seeking a development partner on Stockton Hill, and then the other will be driven solely by an in-cath option, which is at the end of a strip center with a drive-through. That's their sole focus going forward. We don't have as many of those as we'd like. I think that are ideal for that kind of national brand at the moment, but they've asked us to continue to check in with them on new options. and we will certainly continue to do so. Looking at the grocery department store, wholesale store segment, kind of pulled those together because it's kind of an all-in-one, similar discussions, if you will. Two, in conversation currently, actively looking at opportunities here in Kingman. One has known that Kingman's the right option within a specific center that they wanted to be in. There's just not been the right opportunity. deal there's not been the right space uh for for them that and it's it's a very focused effort of what makes sense in the most sense within their requirements um and they're very particular about those um and so unfortunately we don't have something today that's existing for them to look at um we started talking with some of their development partners for maybe a new build um in different parts of kingman not just stockton hill um so so we're trying to be a little more creative with that one um The other has looked at a larger scale project along 40 years ago. Candidly, it is one that knows that they could have success because of some existing sister brands of theirs. So they know that they could be here and do well. We had a good conversation in Las Vegas with them. And then we've got two preliminary talks. So I do want to acknowledge that we've got two that In all seriousness, it wouldn't be something that they could build and open today for two reasons. One, there's not a corner that's right there on the interstate that's ready for them to build today, nor are we quite there from a density perspective for both of those. But I think that both of these conversations that are in quote unquote preliminary talks are certainly ones that are proactive and want to solidify a future position and it's very common for them to do so. So we do anticipate them to continue to be in talks with us about all that's happening on 40 and figuring out how best for them to position themselves within the future developments that are planned to happen out there. Soft goods, lifestyle, retailers. So that's your typical clothing brands, kind of getting some of your basic needs, retailers. We do have three that we put in that category. They're actively waiting for availability of space. We don't have something at each of these brands of size that makes sense for them to locate into. Again, very driven by neighboring brands, you know, being prominent frontage, that kind of thing. So again, very focused. parts of corridors that they like to be in within those corridors that are here in Kingman, while Kingman is a market they know that they could be in, there's just not a space for them currently. So it's something of a constant conversation of how those spaces are moving, how those leases are working, and our conversations with the landlords there, in addition to some of them being particular and open to new construction, given that some of the conversations we're having, and and developed areas of kingman in addition to what's what's future and particularly planned for for flying fortress um and and other interchanges you know in the future for for kingman um it's exciting we're excited to see you know uh really the fortune flying fortress interchange open i think is i believe the the data somewhere in august correct me if i'm wrong um but we know that that's going to be a big domino to fall for kingman um candidly this is going to be important in many different ways because we want to bring in the right brands we know obviously there's some there's a big amount of wish list out there of who who wants to be here uh who wants who wants to bring certain brands to be here and we've heard those comments and we agree with some of them. Some of them, it may not be attainable, but we do have some really good initial chats working through what that's going to look like and how they can start thinking through being part of those future projects. So I did put something here at the end. Since December, I think, was the last time that we presented to council. Since then alone, we've had four visits to Kingman from retailers, targeted brokers, and developers. Three LOIs have been produced. I believe that we've only had One of those moved to under contract, which is one I pointed out earlier. And that's what that third bullet is. And then we do have, obviously, the Hobby Lobby open now as a long, long effort of many, many hours of many individuals, both in the room and online, and not here today. But glad to see that open, of course. And that's easily one of the best parts of our job. I will acknowledge that if any of these conversations turn into, hey, it's not the right time, we don't just let those conversations go. There are many things that change in the site selection realm at all times. You could get a new franchisee. You could be changing a prototype. They could be... exploring markets like kingman when they maybe not were exploring those kind of markets uh last year right so the with even though they might be in that not right now category to us i just want to relay that uh to the community and to council that those don't just fall off um those that aren't interested there are occasionally options uh where again that those do come back into and into a future conversation um you know but but there's there's certain metrics that some groups just may not be able to get over the hump um so there are a handful that have had conversations with us whether it be at shows or um during during outreach um and they've you know kind of fallen into that bucket of not interested um you know for for multitude of reasons so All in all, I think, again, we're very comfortable with how things are going in Kingman. We're excited about what's to come. And again, we just appreciate and want to emphasize the partnership that we do have here and looking forward to what's to come in the future.

Caleb, thank you for that presentation. Are there any questions from council for Caleb?

I do have some comments and then some questions, Caleb. Thank you for that presentation. I appreciate that. I want to thank you for a very successful ICSC. You keep us very busy when we get to go up there. And the meetings that we're having are very substantial. And they're turning into things coming in the future. So I want to thank you for that. I want to thank you for the Hobby Lobby. that we have recently opened in our community. I know those were talks that were happening before ICSC, at ICSC, and then I know that has been a long time coming, and then the soon to be open Starbucks location over on Andy Devine. I get asked these questions a lot from the public, so I just kind of wanted to go on record with your answers for some of these

questions that I get asked.

Why Stockton Hill Road? Why can't we convince these people not to come to Stockton Hill Road? Why does everything have to be on Stockton Hill Road? Can you enlighten all of us in the public as to what the attraction is and why everybody's focused on Stockton Hill Road?

Absolutely. So if we wanted to look back let's call it 20 years. And I don't, I haven't looked back, you know, to kind of when all that really began, maybe as maybe as 30 years ago, who knows when, when a lot of these brands really started to land on Stockton Hill, really started to make that what we call a retail node, N-O-D-E. So that, that retail node in, in Kingman is the primary corridor, the highest traffic, And just has the most visibility, especially for national brands. Andy Devine does have quite a bit amount of traffic. We have had many conversations over there. There's not as much synergy. So synergy of... particular retailers, restaurants that some brands typically like to locate next to because obviously they've had success all over the country locating next to a particular brand and they're going to say, hey, we've got to be within 200 feet or 500 feet of this brand, and we know we're going to be successful because we complement each other. So that's some of my initial thoughts of why Stockton Hill. You do obviously have your big grocery anchors over there, your Home Depot, the super successful Chili's, super successful Cracker Barrel. There's sales over there that perform better. A lot of these brands will look at existing volumes of existing restaurants, the volumes over there are higher. That's why today most things end up landing in that area. Now, with that being said, what happens in our experience with these growing communities like yours is we're gonna start expanding into new retail nodes. So that Flying Fortress interchange, the Future Gaming Crossing interchange, those areas are gonna be, the new popular item because we're going to get new anchors in those areas we're going to get new reasons for daily needs in those new corridors and so more people will say hey i've got options now i've got we'll probably reduce some of that traffic on stock to tell the traffic will grow in those future corridors so um in time that will alleviate but um for now it is a large majority of the conversations are revolving around Stockton Hill, both north and south side.

OK, great. Thank you. I didn't know the answer to all those questions, but I think it's for the benefit of the public. The other question that get asked all the time is, well, if the city would only just bring in X brand or the city, you know, has to do something about bringing in Y brand. So what role does the city have in actually I don't want to say forcing, but I mean, how much of a role does the city have in getting these retailers such as, you know, the targets and the cost goes and, you know, all the other things that they seem to think it's the city's fault that they're not here.

Understood. Understood. Well, and I think it's a fair comment that we hear often and me and my own community, right? There are certain things that I wish that we had, but it's more of a wish list sometimes. And I think when we would wanna answer that question, we would say, what's important that the city and EDC continue to do is engage and continue to work through new infrastructure, new jobs, new homes, figuring out how to continue to increase that quality of life in other ways, because all of that transpires into producing better demographics, better style of living, better spending, and things that all kind of lift up that retail sector of your environment. At the end of the day, we don't have the magic wand to say, hey, Target, we know you have to be here because we said so. And that's unfortunately not how it works. We do have the information as a partnership here, whether it be with the trade area, any other specific reports that the retail coach can produce. We know what information is important to them to get them ready for a future market. And I'm not going to pretend like I'm still talking about Target, but I'm just saying any example for any brand, we can give them that continuous information, be persistent but not pesky with a lot of those brands of this is why we believe that we're about to be ready for... you know, for this brand and why Kingman's about to be ready. This is why we're ready now because we meet those thresholds that we know your site requirements are. This is the options within Kingman. These are your site options. Here are some future site options. So we are in a very proactive role as a partner um and with the city themselves too to get out there and have these conversations and push that that timeline quicker um but at the end of the day there are certain thresholds that any of these groups have to hit um in order to be successful because again they've done it time and time again all over the country um and they do know you know at what point they can agree to enter the market

All right. Lastly, I know there was a time where we just were continuing to reach out and, and we were the ones that the, were the aggressor in as far as telling people about Kingman. So have you seen any kind of shift where maybe we're on people's radar and maybe they're interested in Kingman or they're coming to you and, and, and they want you to tell them more about this place called Kingman, Arizona.

Definitely. So, so we, the way that we always see it, most of our partnerships are sometimes anywhere from two years and we've had partners that are, have been with us for 18 years. What typically has happened is within the first 12 months, 18 months, give it, you know, we're out there telling the right story of Kingman. Not that it was being done incorrectly before, but it's being done with the information that they're looking at all the time and qualifying a lot of that information without them having to spend hours and hours of trying to collect the data, try to get all the information, try to call the city and say, hey, where's your housing growth gonna be? What are you guys expecting? What's some of the restaurant volumes that may not be public? A lot of that information just wasn't being presented And not to the city's wrongdoing, but it just wasn't accessible because it just wasn't being focused on as an example of a partnership with us. So it's definitely a different environment now because is pretty rare that we pick up the phone and somebody doesn't know the positives about Kingman and what's going on out there. Now it's back into trying to figure out, are we meeting those minimum thresholds yet? Is it the right time? Are they just focused on, for example, Phoenix Metro, when's the right time to come up here? So it's definitely a much more active conversation than trying to say what we were doing in the beginning of, here's Kingman, here's what you need to know. Now it's more of a, we've heard about it. We know what's going on up there. We're thinking about it. Keep us updated. You know, let's keep talking.

All right. Well, thank you. You have been an amazing partner and the interactions that I've been able to have with you, and especially at ICSC, you bring great value to the city of Kingman. And I thank you very much.

Caleb. Thank you. Great answers, Vice Mayor. Great questions. We appreciate that. To Council, if there's no other questions for Caleb. Caleb, once again, thanks for being available tonight. And we will be in touch. We know that.

Sounds great. Thank you so much.

Item number four, call to the public, comments from the public. Those wishing to address the council should fill out request forms in advance. Comments from the public will be restricted to items not on the agenda with the exception of those on the consent agenda. There will be no comments allowed that advertise for a particular person or group. Comments should be limited to no longer than three minutes. The council may not respond to speakers during the calls to the public. The council may direct the city manager to study the matter or request the matter be placed on a future agenda. Tonight we have Ms. Jane Faith Bergram that would like to come up.

Thank you for this opportunity to speak with you tonight. So my name is Joanna Faith Bergevin. I go by Jane Faith, and I'm a resident since 2023, and I have a zip code area in Kingman of 86409, and then I'm a landowner southeast of Kingman where that break off between 93 and 40, so. Very thankful to be able to speak with you. Some of the work that I do involves music, agricultural projects, working with elderly people and disabled people. But most recently in the project that I want to highlight and hopefully gain your support is for Project 250 Stand. So I had the beautiful privilege of teaming up with the Daughters of the American Revolution Area Regent and other leadership. to create what we call Project 250 Stand. And what that was, we did a run through at Black Mountain School in Golden Valley on July 23rd of this year. Over 460 students and staff went out to the football field, and we had two, five, zero painted on the football field, and then everybody gathered information with the red two, a white five, and a blue zero. And then aerial footage from the air was able to capture the students waving and showing their patriotism and their solidarity and just highlighting this beautiful year that we have of America 250 to celebrate that. So what I would propose is to be able to recreate that again this fall during Constitution Week. which is held September 17th through 23rd. And also conveniently, it's also the same timeframe as the Mojave County Fair. And so because we already draw a large crowd to Kingman for the fair, and because we now have the backing of the school district, as stated recently, is the Michael K. Can you hear me okay? Okay. As stated through some email correspondence and voicemail and some meetings that we'll be having next week, the Daughters of American Revolution and my volunteers, we would like to have another opportunity to put Kingman on the map, hopefully even gaining national attention for this event. So what I'm requesting from you would be suggestion of a wide open space or area that we could gather people together of all ages and abilities and show our patriotism and our uniqueness as this town and just what we stand for as American citizens. And in closing, I would like to highlight an article that was written in the minor by JC Amberlin, highlighting the event on the 23rd. It's all right, continue. Yeah, and then the one from the standard as well. Okay, that's it.

Thank you very much for that presentation. And as always in our call to the public, our city manager, our staff is listening to these things. And so we will discuss this. It'll come up at a further council meeting. So thank you. Item number five, consent agenda. All matters listed here are considered to be routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items. If discussion is desired, that item will be removed from the consent agenda and will be considered separately. Council, we have items A through O. Are there any items that need to be pulled for further discussion? Member F, letter F, okay. Anything else?

I missed that. Can you restate which one you're pulling?

Oh, I'm sorry, we're pulling.

5L.

Oh, 5L, I'm sorry, okay. Okay. Are there any others that need to be pulled or discussed? Okay, so can we have a motion that approving our consent agenda items on items 5A True O, with the exception of item L. So moved.

Second.

We have a second. Let's see who made the motion. Okay. You both did.

I just want to clarify because I did not hear a motion. Can I just have one of you in your mic give me a motion? I'll make that motion.

council seconds i will second that motion we have a motion in a second all those in favor say aye aye any opposed okay thank you item carries moving on moving back to then item 5l Authorization of a job order contract proposal with McCormick Construction Company for asphalt patching related to water line repairs. This item is for consideration and approval of asphalt patching services related to water line repairs throughout the city of Kingman. Street crews complete the majority of these repairs in-house. However, due to the continued volume of water line leaks, and repair activity, additional contractor support is needed to help reduce the backlog and complete permanent asphalt repairs in a timely manner. McCormick Construction provided a proposal utilizing the Kingman Job Order contract. The fiscal impact is $206,319.40 and will be paid from the Water Capital Renewal Fund. Staff recommends approval. Councilor?

I have several questions. I gave Jack a heads up of what I was going to ask, but the average length of time between when a cut is made and the blacktop is replaced, that's one of them. And how much have we spent on contractors for utility cuts since January of 2023? What is the longest length of time between when we make a cut and when we repair? My number one complaint from constituents is potholes. When I drive out to check these complaints, they're usually utility cuts or where a utility cut has been made and has deteriorated afterwards.

Great. Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of the council. Thank you for the heads up on the questions so I could get some information for you. We agree, one of the top complaints that we get as well. They're called in as pothole, and then when you start looking through the log, it says square hole, square hole, square hole. We know it's a utility cut patch. So it is the most received complaint we get. And I went and I just pulled some empirical data just for the purposes of answering some of those questions. So this year, I provided Manager Walsh some. I hadn't got it to you guys. I got it just before I left here. I logged about 944 patches that were completed. My numbers are a little skewed because one thing I didn't take into a consideration is roughly 200 patches that are part of this contract to get done. So in the last year, there was over 3,000 water leaks. Of those 3,000 water leaks that were repaired, roughly 1,200 of those, approaching 1,300, were under curb or asphalt and requiring asphalt patching. So out of the 944 that we have completed to date, I said 65, last year was 65, we're down about 2%. 63% of those were completed in-house. With this contract, I'd put about 37 of that percentage being completed by a contractor. And so I was able to go back and pull some of the contracts that council had approved in the past. And what I came up with over the three year total was about $857,000 worth, averaging $286,000 roughly in annual contract costs for having a contractor come in and do those. To answer the question, well, back up for just a minute. Actually, I'll stick with the program because I know you've got some more coming. So we're asking about the average time to complete those. 50% are done within the seven days, within seven days of being reported to the street crew to get done. The remaining 50% are not. And those kind of vary. So I staggered those out so we could see where the majority of those are getting done. So about 12.5% of those are between eight and 30 days. So they're going out to about a month, anywhere in that eight to 30 day range. We did have 13%, a little over 13.3% that occur within 31 to 60 days. And then we have a small portion, 7.2% that are in that 61 to 90 day range. And there is a portion, 16.8%. Whether it's large patches, I didn't have enough time to break all that down exactly why we have some of those that are hanging out. So we have a large mainline blowout. We get a contractor in to do large replacements. I don't know that that's what it is. It could be that we've had a number of them that aren't reported. By the time they get to us, we realize they didn't make it onto a list and they've been hanging out there indefinitely. And so that could be part of what impacts that. So, like I say, about 50% of them are done in the first week, and then there's 50 that are spread out between that week all the way out to 90 days.

Okay. So how do we fix this, Jeff?

We are working on that. And I don't have a solution at the podium this evening, which I did. But Manager Walsh and I have been talking, looking at some of those. We're looking at some options that may include trying to get cold mix in, having a crew do that as they're doing them. If you look at the volume, if you look at the number of working days and patching, which keep in mind the summertime, the number of patches because of the water line replace or repairs go way up. If you just average it out on the year, if our water leaks stayed consistent and the number of repairs that needed to be done consistent, you're talking about six repairs a day. For a crew to carry enough material for them, just rough numbers, I was roughing this out before I came down here, is about a ton per crew. So they'd have to have a ton of material with them to do those. The other issue that we're facing is we're already when it gets very busy, we have water leaks. I know you guys get calls. We do that. Hey, this has been leaking for days. That's because we've got it called in. We're aware we're prioritizing other leaks and we'll get to these. So trying to evaluate what, you know, solving one problem i would create in another and so i what and i've i got some i know you had some other questions in there and what i'd ask manager walsh is if we could take some time you know continue working through some of the things we've already done and try and come back in you know with some solutions and i know one of those questions was manpower and the conversation about what was asked at the the budget workshop and whether we needed people or not people would certainly help decrease the average time, it would improve the level of service for water patching. The intent of my conversation with that is we are going out and patching a problem. We're not necessarily getting back and finding what the cause is. We're treating the symptom. And so when you look at the amount of money it is for additional crews, are we better served to take that money and put it into service line replacements? That's actually being evaluated this year. The dollar amount you're talking, we're going to have to manage the problem that we have now while we try and solve the water service leak issue or the water system leaks in general. So that's kind of an all-over-the-place answer, but hopefully you got some more pointed ones.

What is the, in general, what's the difference in cost between when we do it and when we haven't?

I did not calculate the cost per square foot in-house. I have done it. I don't recall the numbers off the top of my head. It's going to be cheaper. We know that, you know, just we have some less things in there. It's not, I do recall it wasn't as big a margin as you think, but when you look at it accumulatively, it does add up. When you look at it just in Pothole, I'm sorry, not potholes, patching, water patching. We placed about 350 tons of asphalt in the last fiscal year. And that's in those 900 plus patches. So we can calculate a cost per square foot for us to do it, and we can calculate a cost per square foot for contractor. It'd certainly be cheaper, and we recognize that.

Yeah, my whole point in all this was just we need to get the patches done. I mean, like I said, that's my biggest complaint. But we need to figure out a way so that this doesn't continue.

Yeah, I agree. That was my whole point. This one thing that I didn't really mention in here is we're trying to balance water leaks, pavement preservation, other responsibilities that we have, dirt roads, weeds, shoulder grading, just all the other responsibilities. Part of the reason we're behind and why this is important to us is when we were in pavement preservation with Chip Seal, most of our crew time is allocated to that project. We spent a whole year with a crew doing crack seal. We had another crew that was out doing patching and prepping and everything leading into the chip seal. While chip seal is going on, we're still in it trying to stay ahead of the chip crew and the work that's being done there and provide that support. So out of the 350 tons of asphalt, we placed just four water line patches, utility repair cuts. We also placed another 240 tons worth of asphalt that was direct to potholes and pavement preservation. So like I say, you're getting into the 600 ton range a year is what we're actually putting down. So we're doing a lot of work, we just, there's a lot more work than we have resources at at the moment.

I understand that. That was my whole point during budget when I asked if we needed more people.

Yeah. Yeah, and we're looking at that right now. The staff time, like I say, the big part of that is what we're working on is trying to go back and come up with a game plan to address the main issue, which is the number of leaks that we have. If we're going to reduce those, we ultimately reduce the number of patches we have to complete, but we still have to manage the number of patches that we're dealing with while we're trying to solve that problem, because that is a significant problem in itself. I really appreciate the questions and bringing awareness to this. It's something, same way we receive the most calls that we get are related to utility cut patching.

And the other questions that I had asked was the equipment that we buy. Is that sufficient to do the job?

I have not run the production numbers for asphalt on what we can produce. I would say off the cuff, I don't see any issue with it, but like I say, that was looking at the number of patches, average size, the number of tons we're going to need per year. The units are being utilized very, very well right now. It's actually increased our production. Daniel's been tracking some of that, looking at what we were doing before because the asphalt patcher is a lot easier for the crews with some of the new features that are on it. The asphalt recycler we have produces asphalt a lot faster. So our production numbers, what we can do in a day and number of tons is actually up about 40%, which is pretty significant. It's just a matter of how many days we can take away from all the other responsibilities to dedicate straight to pavement patching okay thank you yeah thank you thank you for the questions thank you council board vice mayor

So I wasn't going to pull this, but I knew you would. So I have some questions. We're putting down 7,000 square feet of asphalt is what the contract. Where is that going to put us in as far as what percentage of completion are you going to have at the end of this 7,000 square feet?

100%. So we actually accounted for all the outstanding patches, the total square footage that are out there, and then we added some additional to that with the understanding by the time we got to council and got the PO and the contractor here that we'd have some additional repairs that are out there. So with this contract, it'll bring us down to zero once it's complete.

OK. So that leads me to my second question. When do they start, and when will they be done?

I can't say that we've asked them to show up already, or Tina would be on me for procurement, and probably Carl. But they're already aware.

As soon as we approve this, they're here tomorrow.

Not tomorrow, but they will be here very soon. We are ready for them. We already give them a heads up this would be on the council agenda, and it's a high priority.

OK. And then when will they be completed?

hard to give a straight date they're going to do about 20 they usually do say 20 25 patches per day so i'd say roughly assuming weather and everything else probably two to three weeks by the time by the time we get to the end of the total contract value so a hundred percent of our utility patches will be done two to three weeks after they start that's the intent yes

OK, you're on the record. You realize that, right? All right. So and they are working off of the the the spreadsheet that you guys have that were utility patches that have been sitting. And these are I mean, this is the active spreadsheet that you keep talking about that that you guys have.

That is correct. And honestly, if the community or council was interested, if you go to the city website under public works and streets, you can actually go view what is outstanding and what has been completed. And so that's just a continuing list. The street crew keeps that updated regularly. And so, yes, that list has been provided to the contractor. We added additional square footage to, you know, to make sure that we can get to zero point. And so.

Okay, so if they go to the website and they look at the utility patches that are outstanding, those are the patches that have been identified for this crew to work on?

That is correct.

All right, so the utility patch that's outside my door that has been there for 75 days is going to be corrected, correct?

I will want to get an address from you.

I can watch it on the website, right?

I would like to get an address from you because there are patches that we find. No, I'm not giving my address out, but thank you for that.

I just want to know where I can watch this.

In all seriousness, Vice Mayor, I would like to, to any of the public that's watching, just remind people, hey, if you happen to go there and it's not on the list, call us, let us know, because there are occasions, unfortunately, where... it doesn't make it on the list you know it's whether it's a late night whatever happens um we we have some that we get a call and you go out and you're like yeah it wasn't we didn't have that on record to get completed so i just i i also wanted the public to know that the remedy if they do have one that's outstanding they go there they check it it's not there it can be added to the list yes this is a great plug also for the city app and being able to report them through that city

Yeah, fantastic. Thank you. Appreciate it.

Yes. Yeah, I wonder. Oh, I wanted to tease Vice Mayor, but Vice Mayor, so you're going to hold them to end of August. You're going to give them till end of September.

I'm just going to sit back and let's just see what happens.

Councillor Saley.

I wanted to say that I've been testing out the app and every time I pass one of these cuts, they just stop and take a picture of it, send it in through the app. And I've noticed since the last council meeting when we talked about this, that those have all been repaired now. So, the app works, and it's really easy to use. You just open it and take a picture and send it in. It knows the address, and you get a follow-up. And so, I really, it's a lot easier than calling because you can just do it at your leisure. So, thank you for taking care of those. And I also wanted to ask if you've considered doing a contract with a company like McCormick where you say, we want you to be on call during you know our busiest months and you're looking at maybe six repairs a day and we will call you and we want them fixed you know the day after whenever whenever you know that leak has been fixed so that they're just every day out there during the summer months staying on top of these because if there isn't a big cost difference in doing it in-house from you know hiring a contractor to do it it seems like it would be better when it's so busy and you're doing all these other, you know, you're doing chip sealing, you're doing the repairs, all these other things. It seems like it would be better to just have them on call and have them come in and follow you with those repairs.

Yeah, it is a good point. And we have actually had a conversation, not necessarily doing daily because of the mobilization of equipment in and out, but, you know, maybe like monthly, okay, one day a month, We're going to have you come in and take care of the overflow that we can't get to. And so we can get those backed up pretty quickly. Then we're minimizing the mobilization cost or some of the staff time for that. So it is something we've looked at. We haven't put numbers to those just yet. That's one of the solutions we were looking at to try and help keep the backlog from getting large. Quite honestly, we would have done this in the last fiscal year to help while we were in chip seal. The problem was with the volume of leaks, we'd actually expended that budget. And so part of it was we were doing what we could with our staff while we were waiting for our new budget to fire up. And that's what this proposal is based on.

Gotcha. I think that and staying on top of the cuts so that they're not getting lost in the shuffle would be very helpful.

So actually, one of the things, and it'll grow. That's actually a good point. Thank you for sharing that, actually. One of the things that we're working on internally, Daniel's working on it, is kind of an internal app. And so it's captured electronically. We'll have a dashboard. Right now, we do a lot of manual stuff. It's in Excel. And so that'll help with that. Crews will be able to capture it in the field quickly. We can add pictures, whatever needs to happen. Ultimately, we're gonna get that into an OMS system that hopefully we can integrate with the app and we get a good two-way communication back and forth. That all takes IT and the programming side. But we are working on some things inside our own department to help manage that workflow.

Good. OK, thank you.

Thank you. Jack, you had mentioned a little bit of a PAT or allocation. What percentage are we, like 5%? Because we know even while they're doing this, and you've designated where they're going to go, new ones are going to come in. So how much have you designated for extra for overflow?

I did not calculate the percentage against the square footage. I don't have a number to give you at the moment, but we added enough to make sure that we'd be able to capture those additional that pop up.

Okay. Thank you. And of course, once again, great plug for the app. Appreciate that. Thank you. Okay. Any other comments or questions for that, Councillor?

What is the difference between a temporary patch and a permanent patch?

Right now, we don't have temporary, so if you look at our city regs, you'd want to put in cold mix, and that would ride out until you can get hot mix. You pick that out, and then you put hot mix in it. Right now, what happens, you guys see the water crew goes out. They get it backfilled with AB, and then the street crew comes in behind that, digs that out, and puts in hot mix, and those are some of the options we're looking at right now as other alternatives to maybe open up ways to save time in that.

because if if we can't get these patched relatively quick and i'll be honest 70 to 90 days is way far beyond that maybe a temporary patch to save on people's tires and rims and suspensions because i i drive down our favorite road of louise and a few others and Those patches haven't been made for a substantial length of time. And every time a car goes over it, it gets deeper and deeper. And there's a point where that jerk in the car, when you go over it, you don't want to tolerate it anymore.

Yeah. One of the things that we look at with that is the amount of effort for a temporary patch is about proportional to that of a permanent patch. and then you have additional materials. If we can do something, maybe we can move to a cold mix or something else that gets to stay there. The ideal solution to that would be just get a hot patch in there and then we don't have that because that also causes continued deterioration around that patch. And so sometimes you start with a two by two patch, go out with weather, high traffic, some of the other things that happen, we end up cutting it and we may end up at three by three or four by four. So definitely something we need to look at for holding those together.

Okay, thank you, Councillor Dykens. Any other comments or questions for Jack? Great, Jack, thanks. Great discussion. Appreciate you being here. Thank you, guys. Councillor Ward would like to make a motion in approving item 5L. Aye. So moved.

I'll second.

We have a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. Item number six, action item 6A, approval of resolution number 5625, canvas of the July 21st, 2026 primary election results. Per ARS 16-642 , cities and towns must complete a canvas not less than six days and not more than 20 days following the election. Primary election canvas materials provided by the Mojave County Elections Department have been attached for review. Staff recommends approval. Turn some time over to our city clerk, Annie.

Thank you. Mayor Watkins, this is our statutory requirement. The county did complete their canvas at their meeting yesterday morning and it was approved. Everybody has the materials for review. I would note that this election We did have a 30% voter turnout. So definitely would like to see a larger voter turnout when we come up to our general election. But with that, the city will not have anything on the general election. All of our incumbents are being elected outright. So upon approval of this resolution tonight, I do have certificates of election to provide to you.

Thank you, Mayor Meredith. Any discussion on this item? Okay, seeing none, can we have a motion approving item 6A, approval of resolution number 5625, canvas of the July 21st, 2026 primary election results.

So moved.

We have a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. Motion carries. 6B, approval of resolution number 5634, declaring a new city drainage design and administrative manual a public record and adoption of ordinance number 2004, adopting the drainage design and administrative manual. The city's current drainage design and administrative manual was adopted in 1988. A new manual has been prepared that replaces outdated information and incorporates modern standards and methods for managing flood risks within the City. Staff recommends that the City Council first approve Resolution No. 5634, declaring the new Drainage Design and Administrative Manual a public record, then approve Ordinance 20004, adopting by reference the new City of Kingman Drainage Design and Administrative Manual. Staff recommends approval. Discussion on this? City Manager?

Thank you, Mayor. We did have Mike Garment online. I think he's still on there. He was going to present on this. Mike, do we still have you? Yes. There he is.

I'm here. Good evening, Mayor and City Council. I have a presentation. I need to try to share my screen here. Let me see.

Mike, do you want me to share for you?

Yeah, for some reason it's not letting me share. I don't know what the deal is. That works. Okay, so the purpose of this presentation is to provide a brief summary of the city's new drainage manual that we're hoping to get adopted. As mentioned, the city's current manual was adopted in 1988. So it is nearly 40 years old. In addition to having outdated information in it, there are also some issues with the current manual that are addressed in the new one by adding new policies. also the new manual would make the city's drainage policies closer to those of the county which should eliminate some confusion in the future as to what our requirements are next slide okay one thing that we're changing in the new manual is the definition of development the city's current manual specifically defines it as all parcels of land for which a plant is being developed This restricts the application of the drainage regulations and the policies in the current manual to new plants only. So like the city's current manual doesn't really apply to other types of development. For example, it doesn't apply to infill development in existing subdivisions. The new manual will define development activities as any man-made change. That includes buildings, structures, mining, dredging, filling, grading, paving, excavation, drilling operations, or storage of equipment or materials. This broad definition of development means that the regulations and policies in the manual apply to any activity where drainage is a concern. Next slide. So section one of the new manual describes the city's drainage policies and is where most of the significant changes from the manual can be found. Sections one and two are pretty straightforward. The county is the floodplain administrator for the city, and all FEMA submittals should go through them. Also, adverse impacts to adjacent properties are not allowed without permission and indemnification by the impacted property owner. Section 1.3 is a fairly significant change to city policy. The current city drainage manual does not address drainage complaints where one property owner alters the drainage in a way that adversely affects his neighbors. This type of activity is addressed in the Arizona statute, but has never been addressed by city ordinance in Kingman. The new manual will make this kind of activity a violation of city ordinance. However, as in the past, any damage resulting from this activity will be treated as a civil dispute between property owners. Next slide. So section 1.4 discusses our drainage report requirements. Nothing really new there. The report requirements are pretty much the same as they've always been. Section 1.5 discusses policies on hydrology. Really the only thing different here is that we've incorporated the new rainfall data from NOAA that came out almost 10 years ago. Section 1.6 discusses roadway drainage policies. The most significant change here is that we've added a maximum velocity for street drainage of eight feet per second. The current manual doesn't have a maximum velocity. So this is a pretty big change. Next slide. Section 1.7 of the new manual discusses stormwater storage requirements. Far and away, this is the most significant change from the city's current drainage manual. If the new manual were adopted, we would essentially have the same stormwater retention requirements as the county. These standards will result in more required storage volume resulted in maximum drain time of 36 hours, which we currently don't have, and stricter fencing requirements than we currently have at the city. Next slide. There were some proposed policy changes that generate a lot of discussion with the development community. For example, locating water and sewer utilities within a drainage parcel or other drainage facility This can sometimes present problems for the city in the future. This is a good example here on this slide. This is at the intersection of Airway and McClintock. We know that this intersection floods, like in the monsoon season of 2022, we had a big storm come through here. And you couldn't even get through the intersection. One thing we've been thinking about is trying to come up with a project to put in a storm drain and get the water off the road. In order to do that, we would have to actually excavate that drainage parcel that's to the right there. We'd have to excavate that deeper. And as you can see, there are some water and sewer lines that are in the way that are located in that drainage parcel. To relocate that sewer line, it probably cost the city a couple million dollars to do that. And so what we're trying to do is avoid situations like this in the future. So the new manual will require approval from the city engineer for locating utilities and drainage facilities. And we're not saying that you can't do it. We just want to have a chance to review it first so we can avoid situations like this one. Next slide, please. We've had some instances in the past where the grading of lots and construction of property walls have caused adverse drainage impacts to neighboring properties. I just want to point out here that those issues are specifically addressed in the new drainage manual. Next slide, please. Besides Section 1, where the policies are discussed, we have nine other sections that are mostly technical criteria that describe what's required for certain types of engineering analysis. Rather than go through all these, I thought I could just summarize them. Section 2 is a section on hydrology. That's how the flows are calculated. Section 3 is hydrologic routing. That's how flows move downstream. Section 4 is a section on storm drains, that's underground storm pipes. Section 5 is a section on hydraulic calculations for culverts and bridges. Section 6 is the same thing, but it's for open channels and ditches. Section 7 provides some guidance on roughness values, like Manning's roughness values. Section 8 is hydraulic calculations for hydraulic structures like weirs. Section nine provides some additional guidance on stormwater storage. And then section 10 provides some guidance on sedimentation and scour. I just want to point out the current manual has no guidance whatsoever on sedimentation and scour. And so this will help in that aspect. Most of these sections, the material in them was taken directly out of the county's manual. So this will put us in line with what the county is doing. That concludes my brief presentation. I'll be willing to take any questions that you might have.

Thank you, Mike. Appreciate that presentation. Council, any questions for Mike?

Vice mayor, I didn't have one question. Um, I, I was gonna ask the question about if this is more in line with, and we mirror the county, so we have some, uh, congruency there between both agencies. So I, I like that you put that comment in there. Um, the standing water that we've had in the retention detention basins, um, is that addressed in section nine? Is that what you were referring to?

Well, actually, in Section 1.7, towards the beginning of the presentation, we've got the same requirements that the county does, where we have a max drain time of 36 hours. I'll tell you that this is not necessarily easily achieved. Most of it has to do with soil conditions. What we've talked about with some of the developers and their design professionals is, you know, one thing you can do is put in a dry well. The other thing we've talked about is possibly just over excavating the basin, some of it until you get down to the soil condition that will actually drain the basin. I think that's what they did out at the Wallach Ranch Basin. And it seems like that helps. So that would be the idea with that is we have this max drain time of 36 hours that's a new requirement.

Well, and that's good for all the future projects. But do we have I mean, we've had some some concerned citizens come forward about the standing water. So are we are we working on a solution for all those that are existing? And do we have a solution going forward with this policy that is going to correct that in the future because they're not draining in 36 hours?

right so the the basins that the city maintains um that would be something that that public works would try to address as far as trying to get those to drain we've talked about possibly putting in dry wells that comes with its own complications mainly trying to get a contractor up here to do it the other idea could be like we did over at the Wallach Ranch Basin and just over excavate it. But trying to get the basins to drain that the city maintains is really something that's public works function. New basins, again, this is what the requirement is, is the 36 hours. If it's maintained by an HOA, There are mechanisms within the new manual to encourage them to get it fixed. Otherwise, they could face the normal punishment that comes with violating a city ordinance.

Okay. Manager Walsh.

If I can add to that a little bit too, you know, as we go through and they do the subdivisions, there are, you know, soil samples and they look at what the soil composition is. And generally with that, I know what the county has required with their manual is looking at that and determining, okay, based on the soil composition, it will perk or it won't perk. And if it's not going to, then they need to address that either through a dry well or a French drain or something like that in order to get that water down.

And that's fine going forward?

Yes.

So we know that the current, most of the existing retention, detention basins are being maintained by the city, is that correct? That is correct, yes. So what's the remedy? I guess I could ask for that in future reports. Yes, we can definitely bring that back. I will, thank you.

Great. Any other questions? Yes, Councillor Deakins.

On top of the same subject. If it doesn't drain, we have a new development that comes in, and obviously certain tests have been done and everything, but until we get that good rain, we're really not gonna know if it drains in time. Do we have, once we've accepted it, is that ours? Or can we go back on the developer and say, hey, it doesn't meet, you're required to remedy the problem because that was part of the supposed agreement.

in generally once we accept that it is ours i will say what the wallach ranch uh... angle was was very good to work with us and going out and limiting that problem uh... but generally once we've accepted it is ours there are really it it comes down to on the design side uh... requiring those soil soil samples to know hey this is going to perk or it's not going to park and if it's not then okay, what is the solution for that? So it really comes down to on the front end, getting those soil samples, understanding what that soil is made of, how far down, like with this one with Wallach Ranch, we were able to see at a certain level there's a sand layer there and being able to get down to that sand layer so that it'll drain, knowing how many feet of clay you have and then where that sand layer is.

So were these tests originally done with Wallach Ranch? I believe.

I'm seeing a head shake in the back here by Sameen.

I didn't see the way the head was shaking.

Sameen, please, come on in. Can I just jump in? We're kind of going off scope because we're adopting the manual tonight. We're not talking about remedying past problems. So I know Vice Mayor asked, I think, for a report on how we can fix things.

And I'm not talking about past problems. I'm talking about future problems that this will or will not address. So is that legit to discuss? Well, if you're talking about...

If I can speak for a minute, one new policy that we have is that The city will not be accepting maintenance responsibility for any more storage stormwater basins. Those are all going to be maintained by a homeowners association or some other entity besides the city. So it won't be incumbent on Public Works to go fix those problems if they come up. That's something we go back to the HOA and say, hey, here's this problem. You need to fix it. Otherwise, you're going to face penalties due to violating a city ordinance.

TODD BANDUCCI- OK, that answers it then.

So I just want to get clarification. Going forward with these new policies, we will require them to do, in the design process, a soil sample. So they'll know exactly what kind of drainage is necessary, whether they have to put a dry well in, or that's going to all happen at the design part of the project. Is that correct with these new policies?

That's correct. Okay. And what it's going to come down to is, you know, if it looks like from the soil information that it's not going to perk out right, we're just going to have to tell the developer and their design professionals that you guys need to come up with a way to address this. Otherwise, we're not going to approve your project.

Okay. All right. Thank you.

Okay, Council, we're good then? I think that answers all the questions. And, Councilor, Mike, actually, thanks again for bringing up that all new retention pods are not going to be taken care of by the city. So it's important.

Yes. And I was just going to note, if you're finished with the discussion, when you go through this process, we have two different things. We're adopting it as a public record and then you adopt the ordinance. This is just a cost saving measure because of how big the manual is. You know, you don't have to publish it in the newspaper.

Okay. Thanks, Carl. Okay. Any other questions or comment? Okay, seeing none, as Carl mentioned, we have two motions here. So we need first a motion of approval of resolution number 5634, declaring a new city drainage design and administrative manual a public record.

So moved.

Second. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. And then secondly, adoption of ordinance number 2004, adopting the drainage design and administrative manual.

So moved.

Thank you.

I'll second.

We have a motion and a second. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Great, thank you. Item number seven, Department Reports, Data Centers Update. Jason, welcome.

Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council, thank you. So there's a couple meetings back that was asked by Councilman Ward to bring data centers back and give an update on it. So before you tonight is that update. Data centers, if you think about everything you use in your cell phones, the computers today, the technology that we have available to us, they're all being banked through data centers. They continuously collect data on us as we move around in our daily lives, but at the same time, it just holds so much more. So instead of having that encyclopedia that we used to have on a shelf at some point. Now it's all housed in one big building electronically. So a little bit of background just on data centers from a state perspective. 2013 the state legislature actually approved tax incentives for data centers here in Arizona. In 2021, the state legislature approved a 10-year extension for those incentives to 2031. And then just this year, July 7th, Governor Hobbs placed temporary three-year moratorium on those incentives. Specifically, it goes back to, again, some of the impacts that they're now seeing with the data centers that are being constructed. To date, 83 data centers' tax incentive applications have been approved through the Arizona Commerce Authority with another 113 that were submitted just before July 7th. And then Arizona HB 2756 is a newly passed law requiring updated reporting requirements for utilities regarding extra high load for factor customers, and this was also specifically designed to target data centers. Over the last two years, several counties and cities across Arizona have updated their codes to further regulate data centers, including Mojave County, Maricopa County, Phoenix, Mesa, Marana, Chandler, Tucson, and as well as the city of Kingman. Just so we know, and we can put it out there for public record, there are currently no formal proposed data centers within the City of Kingman. So recent changes to other codes, this is just really a recap again because it's an evolving thing. Even though they're out there, it's evolving still within the state of Arizona. Codes continue to consistently change and cities and towns are currently going back and they're adopting those as they come out. So again, Mojave, Tucson, Mesa, Phoenix, Moran and Chandler all have done updates to their codes. And again, this is just a summary of some of those changes. From the city of Kingman standpoint, data centers were fairly silent in our code. They fell under industrial. When it fell under industrial, it really allowed them to be anywhere and there was no regulations that were in place. As you're aware, we did several updates to our zoning code over the last year. Back in 2025, back in November, we did a comprehensive update that became effective January of this year. In addition to that, we did another update, MID26, which actually went back and corrected a Scrivener error and addressed it in the I-1 zone. And essentially we require a conditional use permit if you're going to do a data center here in the City of Kingman. That does require a public hearing. It does require that they meet exhaustive development standards, separation requirements and specific zoning requirements and buffers that are required. Some of those, again, talk about a minimum separation, 1,500 feet from any residential zone, youth school, hospital, or similar sensitive use. We do require acoustical analysis, both pre and post construction. We would require a water use study. This is probably one of the bigger ones, which really looks at the project demands itself. It does have to demonstrate that there is no impact to city or county water supply or regional water supply. And it also has to identify any mitigation measures that would have to be taken in order for them to proceed forward to ensure that there are no impacts. Additionally, we require the utility capacity with any written confirmation from our utility providers demonstrating that they have adequate capacity to serve the data center. And then, of course, we do have some enhanced architectural design standards. I think the biggest thing that I want to really kind of point on is the exhibit before you is our city's zoning map, and there are five locations that are shown on that zoning map that are in our I-1 and I-2 designations. A couple of those are kind of within more of the central part of the city, with the remainder being around the perimeter out off of Flying Fortress, Andy Devine, and more towards our industrial areas going towards the airport. When we look at how this particularly looks, when we look at from a land use side and we look at land use compatibility, we look at how the architectural features of the building are going to be compatible. We look at the setback screening, landscaping, lighting, parking and signage. So just kind of breaking down each of those particular areas. So Site A in this particular area, it's a small area of industrial that's located over off of Railroad Street in that particular area. It's approximately 73 acres of which the railroad actually owns about 60 of those acres. It is buffered by residential development and because of the 1500 foot separation requirement, the existing industrial base that we have there would not be a suitable area for a data center. Site B is approximately 41 acres. This is surrounded by commercial properties. There is some residential. And again, this would require also a 1,500 foot separation. So this is in our I-1 designation. Site C, our third site, is comprised of both light industrial and heavy industrial. It's 207 acres. It's bisected by the railroad. The west side of the railroad previously is developed. No parcel in this area would be able to meet the 1,500 feet because of the separation from any existing residential. Site D, this is also comprised of I-1 and I-2. It's 595 acres approximately. It does have limited parcels to have potential to meeting that 1,500-foot separation as development should start to occur in that particular area. We do have some residential and, again, some light industrial and heavy industrial. So should a site be proposed in this area, it may be eligible for meeting that requirement. And then the last one's approximately 182 acres. And again, this is another site that has limited ability to meet the separation zoning requirements. Our conditional use permit process, it starts with due diligence application coming before staff. We would provide them with the development standards if they hadn't already received them. They would then follow up with our development plan review application process. That's really where they get all of their formal requirements and gets them ready to prepare to submit for their conditional use permit application. Again, that is a public hearing process. So the site would be posted. We publicly notice it. We're going to add it in the paper as well. They would have to be submitting all of their similar requirements of site plan, architectural elevations, all of the required studies, drainage plans and so forth. And then ultimately it would become before the Planning and Zoning Commission for a recommendation and before this body for any approval. Some things to consider is it truly is an ever-evolving process dealing with the data centers. I can tell you that the American Planning Association has a webinar on August 25th that was posted in their law journal. These are starting to be more and more challenged in other areas. And so staff, again, we stay apprised of these things. We'll be attending that webinar and seeing what new information comes out. And, again, as new information comes out, the likeliness is that we'd be coming back before this body if there's something that should be considered for further review and analysis as part of our process. Some of the bigger things that we do look at, again, is the generators themselves. These are things that can be included in ordinances. Public website posting, 24-hour notice for any generator running. And then just annual water reports to be asked of those providers. These are things that some municipalities are doing, not all. These are not in our current. These are just some of the newer things that have just come out, Mesa and Chandler are doing. Flagstaff has looked at the possible prohibition of data centers. They have decided to hold off on that because of the fact that they need to have some more research. I can tell you, looking at that, there are a couple things that come with it that can be problematic, and that would be the potential for a property owner to have claim for diminished value. And then the other portion would be establishing exclusionary zoning, which, again, while we're taking away property rights from the property owners. So with that, from a staff perspective, we continue to monitor. We will continue to look for opportunities to ensure that our zoning ordinance is the most up-to-date and current and bring back any changes before this body. And with that concludes my presentation. Any questions?

Jason, thank you for that report. We appreciate that. Any questions for Jason? Councillor Ward?

No, I'd just like to thank you for the presentation.

Certainly.

Okay. Anything else?

Yes, Councillor Dickens.

Carl will give you that head shake if this isn't a legitimate question to ask, but I'll try.

I'll ignore him, yes.

I attended a class on data center development a year or two ago and in the class they talked about the huge amount of water that was required for the cooling process and in this i'm reading water use study demonstrate no detrimental impacts to city or county water supply So in my feeble mind, I'm thinking, how can that even occur unless data centers have changed their process, their cooling process, to be dramatically less? Do you know anything about that?

Yes, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council, Councilman Dikens. Yes, data centers are changing. They are seeing that these are becoming roadblocks in communities. So they have looked at going to recycled systems, closed loop systems. With that comes other issues with those types of systems, bacteria and so forth. So again, data centers are continuously evolving and they will continue to do so because we are now such a data driven environment across the board. So when we look at it from that perspective. So again, we'll continue to look at those types of options. And if different things are coming out through these webinars and things that we attend on the planning side, it's a hot topic that we will continue to bring those back before this body. Certainly.

Any other questions? Jason, once again, thank you for keeping us current and continuing to keep us current on data centers and what's going on.

Appreciate it. Thank you.

Okay. Item number eight, announcements by mayor, council members, and city manager. Manager Walsh.

Thank you. Just a couple of... announcements let me see i had anna help annie help me out here with us um so we're currently promoting our city app right now um we do have um sarah's doing a great job getting it out there we will have a drawing at the end of it sarah the date on that is she's going to help me here

The actual drawing will be September 22nd.

September 22nd. So everybody that gets on there, signs up, and has their email input will do a drawing. We're doing $50 at the golf course or $25 second. I guess first prize would be $50 at the golf course. Second would be $25 at the powerhouse. Get everybody signed up. We are setting up our schedule for Fall Citizens Academy. So that's coming up. Looking sometime in September to get started on that. Registration will go live in the next couple of weeks. And then this is the only meeting for this month. So no meeting on the 18th. yes and then tomorrow night for all of our citizens academy members we are having uh the barbecue over at the uh at the golf course so that's manager walsh what time is that again that barbecue carl remembered so he's gonna it is at six o'clock six o'clock thank you thank you annie did require pre-registration as well real good thank you anything else manager walsh i think that works for tonight thank you great counselor walker

Councillor Savage. Councillor Ward. Councillor Saley. Councillor Dikins. Vice Mayor. Okay. Just a couple different things real quick. I want to congratulate my fellow councillors for the election results and we're glad to be here again. So we will see you. Then of course this Friday, first Friday coming up And what has been interesting, and Manager Walsh confirmed this, our attendance has not really dropped hardly at all because of the heat.

Yeah, we've been been staying up. I think last month was just under 9000. So yeah, yeah. Chambers doing them. Becky was here earlier, but looks like she's gone. But they've been doing a great job on keeping that going for our Beale Street for downtown merchants.

And of course, it attracts a lot of people. The theme this month is take it inside first Friday shop August nights. So of course, it's actually very apropos because it's so hot inside. But I'm sure a lot of people will still be set up to share their thoughts and things. Anyway, that's from 5.30 to 9, which oftentimes people are already here early at 5 o'clock, so that's for sure. That's the only thing I have. Once again, glad to be a member of this community. We love Kingman, and I'm sure we all share that thought, and we want to see it continue to grow and prosper. Item number nine, council request for future reports and updates. Seeing none on this side over here.

I wanted to ask for my retention detention basin report. I want to know how many basins we have that we're currently maintaining, how we're currently maintaining them, future remedies to mitigate the slow drainage. So I look forward to that.

Thank you, Vice Mayor. Okay, item number 10, Executive Session A, discussion regarding Kingman Crossing. City staff request Council go into Executive Session pursuant to ARS 38-431.03A3 to discuss Kingman Crossing, Council discussion or direction. Can we have a motion to go into Executive Session?

So moved.

We have a motion. Do we have a second? We have a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Once again, everybody here in chambers, we appreciate it, or who has participated via the internet. Have a good evening. We will go into executive session. Are we good? Thanks, Annie. Okay, we are back from executive session, and so we need a motion to direct staff to proceed as directed.

So moved.

Second. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you, and have a good evening.